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I decide to pay attention to our surroundings, and make sure nobody gets the drop on us. If that thing's half as valuable as Rin implied, then we need to be on the lookout for anybody that might even suspect we had it.

I feel a sudden tugging sensation at my side, and look at see that at some point she grabbed my hand. Looking at her face though, she seems just as startled.

She blushes and looks away.... and for the first time, I mirror the movement. Did I do it without noticing? Did she? Both of us at the same time?

We keep our hands locked, fingers intertwined for the rest of the way home. I almost expect Saber to turn around and catch us at any moment, while at the same time wondering what the hell it is I'm getting so worked about? So what if I'm holding hands with Rin. I'm holding hands with a cute girl my age. There is nothing wrong or weird about that at all.

Yet Rin's standing next to me, equally unsure of herself, and it seems almost like we're both hoping for someone to attack and force us apart. Like neither of us wants to be the one who ends it, but neither of us want it to continue.

Or stop.

Despite our extreme paranoia on the way home, no threat materializes to justify it along the way, and we make it to the house unmolested. We finally break contact when Saber begins to turn back to check that we weren't followed as we reach the house. As Rin passes her, I see her raise a single eyebrow in my direction as her eyes go from my face to Rin's back before giving a theatrical sigh that seems to freeze my blood.

She knows? I CARE that she knows?

What's gotten into me all of the sudden?

I shake my discomfort aside as I walk into the house, and find Ilya chatting with Sakura and Rider. Sakura hesitates when she looks at me, and looks away like she's not sure what to do. Rider seems as still as a statue, but I also don't feel any tension from her. Ilya just seems like she's resigned to the situation as a whole.
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>>29476260

"How did it go?" She asks, breaking the silence before it's had a chance to settle.

"Uneventful, thankfully." Rin responds, holding the parcel. "You mind if we head out to the shed? Shirou's workshop, unimpressive as it is, is probably the best place for this."

Ilya nods, and she stands to make her way towards the door.

[ ] Follow Rin and Ilya.
[ ] Check on Sakura/Rider.
[ ] Talk to ______.
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>>29476274
[x] Check on Sakura/Rider.
HA HA TIME FOR PURPLE
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>>29476274
> [ ] Follow Rin and Ilya
Gotta make sure the magic thingie Rin has doesn't interact with the magic circle in a bad manner.

Also, this new captcha sucks.
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Threadly reminder that the updated Ebook can be found at http://pastebin.com/kbGzcbDb

>>29476274
>[x] Follow Rin and Ilya.
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>AC-Guy @ArmoredQuest 3m
>I guess maybe I should've given some advance warning?
That's generally a good idea, yes. Twitter can take a while to push updates.
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Rolled 3

So... Who's on Wheel of Misery duty this time?

>>29476274
>[X] Follow Rin and Ilya.
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I follow Rin and Ilya to the shed, seeing Sakura's concerned gaze follow us across the yard. Saber opts to wait outside as the three of us venture into the shed. Ilya starts setting a barrier around the shed, while Rin drags a table to roughly the middle and begins unpacking the bundle.

I watch as she lays out a series of diagrams, notes and drawn images, clearly laying out some sort of super complicated magical formula for us to study. Ilya joins us at the table, and then Rin begins to stare at me.

Expectantly.

[ ] Ask her what it is.
[ ] Ask Ilya for her take.
[ ] Ask if something is wrong.
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>>29476964
[ ] Ask if something is wrong.
[ ] Ask her what it is.
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>>29476964
[x] "Albuquerque."
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>>29476964
>[X ] Ask if something is wrong.
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>>29476964
>[X] Ask if something is wrong.
>[X] Ask her what it is.
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>>29476964
>[ ] Ask if something is wrong.
Does she need us to do a Structural Analysis?
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>>29476964
>[ ] Ask if something is wrong.
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".... Is something wrong?" I ask, giving her a concerned look, wondering why she's staring at me.

".... No?" She answers hesitantly. "Is there?"

"I don't know. I just see you staring at me like I'm expected to do something with...." I gesture at the table. ".... This."

"Well yeah. It's a sword. You make swords."

"That's not a Sword Rin. That's paper with scribbles on it. Scribbles that probably translate into something important."

Rin plants a hand on her face. "Shirou, It's a detailed structural analysis on Zelretch's Jeweled Sword." I hear Ilya gasp with comprehension as Rin continues. "It's practically a road map to the Second Magic."

I stare at her blankly. ".... So what am I supposed to do with this then?"

"MAKE SWORD HAPPEN!" She yells with a clear note of frustration. She then takes a deep breath before continuing. "Shirou, we need a strong counter measure to whatever Avenger might have planned. The Jeweled Sword is a font of potentially endless power."

[ ] I'm still not sure what you expect here.
[ ] It doesn't work like that.....
[ ] How do you think I do this, Magic?
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>>29477400
>[x] You heard the lady! Make Sword happen!"
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>>29477400
>[ ] How do you think I do this, Magic?
Make the Spooky Magic happen, Shirou.
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>>29477400
Well, I'm looking at the plans, but... this isn't the sword. I normally have to see the sword itself.

But, still, I guess I could give it a shot.
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>>29477400
I don't see how any of these options differ from the others so I'll just go with the one that will fuck with Rin's head the most.
>[x] How do you think I do this, Magic?
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>>29477400
>[ ] How do you think I do this, Magic?
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>>29477400
>How do you think I do this, Magic?

It's like she thinks that were some kind of wizard or something
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>>29477400
>[X ] How do you think I do this, Magic?

Magic swords, how do they work?
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>>29477400
Rin, I have to SEE the sword. that is not a sword. A blueprint of excalibur would not let me make excalibur
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>>29477497
>>29477748
Didn't we summon Gram without ever actually seeing it?
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>>29477827
It was either from Gate of Babylon or Archer's UBW. We have a lot of fancy swords that we nicked from the Archers.
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>>29477827
It was either in Archer's UBW or Gil's GoB. The former we saw in full, the latter... well... Gil threw a lot of swords at us. Multiple times.
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Oh, I almost forgot about this post from the last thread http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/29311485/#p29330988
It's something from the guy that reread the first thread during the last thread:

>>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21336915/
>I would kindly like everyone to reread this whole thread and feel moderately uneasy along with me at how some of this dialogue pops out.

>>Saber catches my sleeve. "Shirou, I know not her intentions here. Are you sure she's trustworthy?"
>>I think back. Some memory seems to be pushing at the back of my mind, something I can't quite grasp. Something that says...
>>"Yeah. I think so."

>>He pauses, and looks at me. "The grail will grant the wish of whoever obtains it. If you wish to have nothing more to do with this... all you have to do is win. Anything you desire can be yours: money, power, women, purging that guilt your wear like a cloak."
>>"Wha-" I feel dizzy. It doesn't makes sense for him to-
>>"Kirei, don't go off topic. I asked you to tell him the rules. I didn't ask you to open up his old wounds." A voice cuts in.

>>"I see. It is pointless to say anything to these kinds of people, so I was trying to take away his morality while he still misunderstood. …Heh, I guess it is true that compassion is not good for others. And I rather enjoyed it too."

>Nrrrrrrgh.

And this:

>So, I got a feeling about something. When we get a chance, ask Saber:

>"So, how'd we win last time?"

>See if we get a reaction out of her. I have an idea of what may be going on.
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>>29478239
I have no idea what any of that means.
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"How do you think I do this? Magic?" I punctuate the question with a wave of my arms.

It's after the question is posed, and I watch Rin and Ilya's faces both shift between something like disbelieving horror and confused outrage. "What?" Rin finally asks, after taking a moment to compose herself.

"Alright, I phrased that terribly." I say, before continuing with a sigh. "I mean, I need to see the sword itself. The analyzing and copying the sword is subconscious. I can summon a copy of any sword I've seen. I need to see the actual sword." I look at the diagrams on the table and stare. "This isn't a sword. It's.... a picture of a sword. I need to somehow see the actual thing before I can make a copy."

".... You can only copy swords you've seen?" Rin asks confused, watching me closely. "Then what was- When the Jewels almost..." She winces at the memory, and I shake my head.

"I honestly have no idea. I tried to project it again and the attempt almost killed me." I answer with a small shrug. "But yeah. That's something I can't do. I'm not sure if that's a hard restriction or just something I don't know how to do but..... I could probably make a sword, just a normal one simply by knowing they exist. Something like this though?"

Rin's shoulder's slump heavily as she looks from me to the table. ".... I can't really make sense of it either. Nobody in my family has since we got it hundreds of years ago." She makes a fist, and glares at it. "I thought, maybe, with the way your magic is so WEIRD we might be able to figure it out somehow. But apparently it isn't weird in the right way."

I start to reach out to her, but she walks out of the shed saying she needs fresh air to consider our options.

>?
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>>29478262
According to the anon I quoted, we're more or less repeating the grail war.
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>>29478263
Project normal sword. Compare to diagrams, try to analyse shit.
This is going to another dead end because we can't follow through, isn't it?
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>>29478263
Any advice, Ilya?
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>>29478281
Which one?
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>>29478302
Either that, or Illya gives us the information the same way she did in HF, and we fuck up any and all rolls in understanding it.
>>29478326
The 5th war. We're repeating the 5th war after we already won it and possibly made a foolish wish to become a hero and possibly Avenger.
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>>29478263
How about just what the sword looks like from memory?
But who could be old enough, or have access to said memories from that long ago?
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>>29478281
>>29478401

>more or less repeating the grail war
Hmm... then Shirou should've technically seen the physical manifestation of this sword.

It may explain why he almost grasped its form, as implied by Rin.

Still not concrete enough a theory to be actionable or something that can be tested though, at least for me.

Best thing we can do is to ask Ilya for now.

Oh, wait. Do we still have Arcueid's number?
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>>29478695
I'm... not actually sure if we saw the jeweled sword before. The Anon thought we've only done one loop so far. If we made a wish on the grail, I highly doubt the previous loop was HF. Unless it was Mind of Steel or something.

As for Arc, yeah, we should still have her number.
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I stare at the diagram for a long time, hoping that some inspiration will strike me. That I might be able to perform whatever miracle Rin was expecting from me. All I manage is a headache.

I sigh, and stand back from the table, and look at Ilya, who stands there staring at me concerned. "Are you alright?"

"Yeah, I just...." I look back at the table, wishing there was something I could do. Like punch it in it's non-existent face. "Rin was counting on me for this, and It would've-"

"Rin was hoping you would be able to do something impossible based on an incomplete understanding of your abilities. Not being able to do it isn't your fault."

".... It feels like it's my fault...."

"Yes, but you like to run in pretty little circles to take all of the blame and burdens to yourself." She says with a sort of cold finality.

"Well, do you have any ideas? Anything that might help?" I ask, grasping. She.... hesitates.

"I might, actually." She says, looking at the diagram. "I might be able to.... translate? One of my ancestors was present when Zelretch used the blade. Maybe I could do something with that?"

"Really?"

"Yes, but IF I can, it might take a while to find something useful to you." She shakes her head. "I'll come find you in an hour or so. So just.... go kill time?"

>?
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Rolled 17

>>29479005

Sabertiem.
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>>29479005
Thank Illya for her help, visit team Purple.
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>>29479005
Well, if imouto says so.

> Find Saber
Have that talk with her about possible repeating loops of the 5th Grail War.
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>>29479005
Pat head. Thank best little sister. Sit in a corner and wait for someone to come so that Ilya isn't left alone for any period of time.
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Rolled 4

>>29479005

Hold hands with saber.

She was probably kind of jealous
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waiiiiiiiit a minute.

>Quest title is Fate Stay/Again
>Again
>It's referring to the 5th Grail War repeating. Not because it's just the 5th Grail War Again, only in Quest form.

...SON OF A BITCH!
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>>29479155
>Fate/Stay Again
Minor type fix.
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That visit to Rin's sanctum could have gone worse or better.

We could have touched a Kaleidostick.
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>>29479155
I could easily see that being true if AC-guy or Kirei archived the thread and not some random anon.
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Rolled 13

>>29479311

if only.

Magical Rin would be a potent weapon.
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>>29479059
Going with this
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I walk out of the shed and learn on the outside. I see Rin entering her room, and Saber standing nearby watching her until she disappears from view. She turns to me shortly afterwards. "I assume things didn't work like you hoped?"

"No." I tell her with a heavy sigh. "We might be able to salvage it somehow, but...."

"I see." She responds, placing a hand on her hip and looking thoughtful. "Well, is there anything else we could be doing? Some other lead or hope?"

".... There might be one." I tell her, looking at her. "Is there anything you haven't told me?"

She blinks, looking at me surprised. ".... Like what? Do you think I've been dishonest?"

"No, it's not that." I tell her, shaking my head. "I mean.... remember that weird dream I had? The one where I ended up punching Archer?"

".... I do." She asks, clearly curious as to where I'm going with this.

"He said 'She hasn't told you anything'. The only other she he might have been referring to is Rin." I say, looking at the room she vanished into. "And I'm pretty sure she's told me almost much everything at this point. I'm not accusing you of lying or keeping secrets, but there has to be some piece of information you have that's critical in some way. The only thing that I can think of is how you aren't.... you know."

"If there's something I haven't told you, it's not out of a desire to conceal things. In truth Shirou, I trust and respect you to the extent that I did the Knights at my table. Perhaps more in some strange way, given the secrets we've shared." She frowns, thoughtfully. "Anything in particular occurring to you?"

"Well, what about this war?" I say, thinking slowly. "I have a weird feeling this war has happened.... differently, in the.... past? I don't know, time travel isn't something I've had a chance to think about."
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>>29479868

Saber stares at me strangely. ".... I think I know what you mean, but I don't think I can help you." She sighs. "The way I've been summoned means I'm tied to the flow of time. If there was another way the war could have happened, I wouldn't remember it. Other Heroes might have some way of doing it, but they lose their memories with each summoning as far as I'm aware."

"So no hope?"

"It was.... an interesting idea. But if things were to diverge like that, I would also be diverging. That Altria would be the one that was always in that place, and we would likely never meet or interact, not as things are."

".... I figured it was something of a long shot." I sigh, leaning back against the wall of the shed. "Then again, if straws are all I have to grasp at?"

Saber smiles unexpectedly, and walks closer to grab my hand. "Shirou. I can't claim things look bright, but I'm optimistic. Rin's rather intelligent, we have potent friends and allies, and I've seen you do things I would have considered impossible before we met. We'll manage. Somehow."

"What if we don't?"

"I believe your advice to me was to enjoy the time we had."

I stare at her for a long moment, before the hand-holding suddenly snaps to the forefront of my mind. My eyes dart down, and I see that her face as gone a blank and expressionless flavor of annoyed in that breif interval.

"Oh goodness Shirou. A female is touching you directly. Whatever shall you do?" Her voice is in a flat monotone that almost suggests she's mocking me, but seems more to underline the question of how I survived this long surrounded by women.

>?
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>>29479888

Counterattack. Use the hand to pull her into a dip.

See how the bitch likes being flustered.
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>>29479868
"No, it isn't that I'm bothered or anything. It's nice, holding hands with you.

"We have around an hour. Is there anything you'd like to do, Saber? If not, we could sit here and talk, if you don't mind."
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>>29479888
Smile.
A real one, and not a fake one used to reassure others.
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Rolled 8

>>29479888

Hug Saber.

and chu~
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>>29479888
"The answer to that question has been the same from the moment I summoned you; I have absolutely no idea."
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"The same as I said back when I summoned you." I respond equally deadpan. "I have absolutely no idea."

There's a long moment where we just stare deeply into each other's eyes like some kind of weird sarcastic staring contest, when suddenly she begins to crack and the two of us spend a long minute just laughing.

At the end of it, Saber looks at me smiling, and then suddenly starts to slide her hand out of mind. Gently, but insistent. I catch the edge of a little bit of worry in her eyes as she looks away from me and gestures towards Rin's room.

"I'm... I'm going to go see how she's doing. She's been doing better, but she still isn't fully recovered after all." And as she turns and begins walking away, I feel more like she's trying to leave my side rather than go to Rin's.

Weird.

[ ] Wait.
[ ] Follow.
[ ] Go talk to Sakura/Rider.
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>>29480385
[x] Wait.
HELLO ARCHER HOW ARE YOU DOING
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Rolled 18

>>29480385

Is she afraid of getting too close to shirou again?

>[ ] Follow.
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>>29480385
> [ ] Wait.

>>29480462
HELLO ASSASSIN WHAT ARE YOU GONNA RIDDLE ME WITH THIS TIME?
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>>29480385
>[ ] Follow.


I want enough Saber points she stays. She's still doing that thing where she tries to keep her distance because she's going to disappear.
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>Illya tries to help us construct the gem sword
HA HA TIME TO PUNCH ILLYA
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>>29480385
[x] Follow.
She's doing it again.
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>>29480385
>[X] Go talk to Sakura/Rider.
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I start to follow her. "Yeah, that might not be a bad idea. What with how hard she had it walking across town."

"... You're coming with then?"

"Might as well, since I'm just killing time."

".... Yes, you might as well. I mean, this is Rin we're talking about."

"Mmmmm." I respond, looking at her out of the corner of my eye. I suspect the reason she doesn't notice is because of how desperately she's trying to NOT look at me.

The two of us find Rin slumped over her desk, staring at the pile of books she had clearly been thumbing through over the last few days. She just looks.... tired. She turns to look at us, but doesn't quite seem to muster the enthusiasm to rise. I see a slightly quirked eyebrow almost asking a question as she looks between Saber and I before talking. "I can't think of anything else. We have Zouken on one side and Avenger on the other. We have a lot of firepower we can bring to bear, but I'm not sure we can win as-is. The fact that we would also have a hard time losing is what's probably what's been keeping our enemies away, but right now the attrition is to their advantage."

"Not entirely." Saber responds. "In a day or two, you'll be back on top of the world, and our magical support will improve significantly."

"Which is true. I mean, I don't really do proper magic. I just hit things. With Swords."

Rin smiles, and sits up, stretching as she does so. "Yeah, well, you have Ilya at least. I was sorta pinning my hopes on that Jeweled Sword, but if we can't use it...."

"We might be able to do something yet." I tell her, "I mean, we just didn't get anywhere on the first attempt. It's a puzzle your family's been working on for hundreds of years? It's gonna take me more than one go. Even you would probably only get it on your second try."

She smiles a little wider, shaking her head. "I'm good, but I don't think I'm that good. Still, I guess having another crack at it-" Her thought is interrupted by a huge yawn, and abandoned afterwards.

>?
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>>29481037
Illya is having another crack at it right now
Or is there any reason we shouldn't say it?
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>>29481037
"To bed with you, Princess. O Knight, make sure she stays there."
Accost the purple ones!
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>>29481037
"Get some rest; no sense in figuring out your family's magical superweapon if it's going to mean you're too exhausted to use it."
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>>29481098

Probably as well just letting her sleep. She can get caught up on Illya's progress once she's rested.
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>>29481037
Put her to bed. Spend more time with saber.

We're breaking through to you.
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>>29481228
Oh yeah, I imagine her face when we tell her that we succeded in that hard magical thing as soon as she went away to sleep
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>>29481261
Hey, maybe she'll kiss us BEFORE she slaps the hell out of us.
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"Rin, get some sleep."

"Eh?" She begins, startled as I physically lift her and place her on the bed. "Shirou...."

"Ilya had one idea that might help. We've basically got one guess between us, and you need to be rested. You're the smartest one here, and I'm terrible at plans more complicated than swording people." I place hand on her shoulder and gently push her down onto the bed. "Sleeeeep. Fretting about exhausted isn't going to do anyone any good. Rest up and we'll have a fresh take on this tomorrow."

She opens her mouth like she's going to protest, but then turns away with a blush. "... Fine. Just promise to wake me up if anything important happens."

"Well, I doubt we're going to accidentally the second magic while you're down, but yeah. I'll come wake you up personally if something's going on."

Rin gives me one last little nod before yawning and asking us to leave the room so she can change into Pajamas.

Saber and I step outside and-

[ ] - I talk to her.
[ ] - I go check on Sakura and Rider.
[ ] Other.
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>>29481443
>[ ] - I talk to her.
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>>29481443
>[x] - I talk to her.
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>>29481443
[X] - I talk to her.
>Use people skills Shiro
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>>29481443
>[x] - I talk to her.
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>>29481443
[x] - I go check on Sakura and Rider.
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>>29481037
Let her sleep and maybe chat with Saber.
We have spent the least amount of time with her.
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>>29481500
SHIROU doesn't know SOCIAL SKILLS
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>>29481443
>[ ] - I go check on Sakura and Rider.
Time for Deep Purple
>I'm terrible at plans more complicated than swording people
Aww, we're not giving us enough credit. We can get pretty creative with using those swords and whatnot. Like shooting Gae Bolg with a bow or trying to ram a car in Berserker
In other words our brain works best during battle
That's... disturbing
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>>29481550
Combat is simple. People are not.
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>>29481443
> [ ] - I talk to her.

This question doesn't necessarily need to be addressed to Saber in character, but is there a chance of Rin dreaming about the 4th War through Saber's perspective? Servant connection and all.

Or will it only be limited to during her reign as King Arthur?
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>>29481561
Not in this setting full of magic bullshit it's not
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>>29481581
Simple in the sense that it doesn't involve those messy "emotion" things.
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>>29481590
But still, you can't disagree that the fact that we'd prefer to fight various monsters and risk our lives ten times to social interactions within love pentagon is disturbing
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>Sorry, Bathroom.

>So how exactly do you intend to talk to Saber, since that seems like the winning option.
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>>29481752
"Now that you've fought in several Grail Wars, who would you want to have as your knights?"
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>>29481752

Tail and follow her until she can't take it anymore and roars at shirou.

Then the heart to heart talk can begin,.
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>>29481752
Awkwardly
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>>29481752
"Did Rin ever explain to you something about... mana recharging? If I'm not mistaken?"

It's been mentioned multiple times that canon Shirou is way ahead of the relationship curve than F/SA Shirou. This must be corrected.
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>>29481811
I'm cool with this to an extent.
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>>29481752
Ask about Avalon. Doesn't she have some sort of connection to it?
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>>29481752
Say, how deep was that Rule Breaker cut that was inflicted on Saber by Archer?

Shirou might need to know this for... reasons.
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>AC-Guy @ArmoredQuest 1m
>Yaaay connection issues. That next post will be coming along whever 4chan stops acting like a derp.
Clearly this is Avenger's fault.
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>>29482118
But we didn't even bring out the Wheel of Misery yet!
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>>29482118
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO-wA5FH8o8
It keeps happening
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>>29482118
Well then, I guess I should post the episode end PSA segment that the FCC mandated we have now, just in case the thread dies before AC-Guy's internet unfucks itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQuZVpEsPx8
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>>29482159
Can't believe that's a kids' show
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>>29482192
I'd argue that Animaniacs was a "family show", in the sense that it had jokes for everyone, and never treated the audience like idiots.
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>HAHAHA CONNECTION ISSUES!

>I'm going for what I'm guessing the consensus was when I was last able to see the board. Hopefully things haven't changed too much.

I turn to Saber, suddenly but not too sudden and she blinks at my sudden attention. "Shirou?"

"So... what's with all the blushing?"

".... I don't know what you're talking about." She answers, looking away.

"You're blushing right now." I respond, reaching out and slowly poking her in the cheek.

And she freezes, still as a statue, as soon as I touch her. As her face progressively reddens, she tries to say something, but a choked noise comes out from the back of her throat instead.

"Oh goodness Saber." I begin slowly, and I watch her eyes widen as she realizes I'm deliberately echoing her words from earlier. "A Boy I touching you on the chee-

The slap catches me off guard, but I can't say it surprises me completely. ".... You deserved that." She says coolly, blush gone. Her voice though sounds like she's trying to convince herself as much as state a fact to me.

[ ] "Really? Why?"
[ ] "About time."
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>>29482230
>[ ] "About time."
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>>29482230
>"Sorry, I forgot that you're only used to girls. By the way, wasn't marrying to a woman wierd to you?"
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>>29482230
>[ ] "About time."
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>>29482230
>[x] "About time."
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>>29482277

1) Do not make mention of Mordred
2) DO NOT make mention of Mordred
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>>29482230
[ ] "About time."
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>>29482296
I was talking about whatshername... Gwynevere?
By the way, I forgot, was she upset when we mentioned Mordred because Arturia doesn't like her, or because she regrets killing her own goddamn daughter?
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>>29482345
She blames herself, just like she blames herself for everything. It's just who she is, she takes the blame for anything bad, and refuses credit for anything good.
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>>29482345

Because she basically had to grow a dick.
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>>29482377

Also she's still pissed off at Merlin over the whole magic cock debacle.
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>>29482384
And that's bad how?
>>29482377
Boy does that remind me of... half the cast, really
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>>29482230
>About time
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>>29482384
>>29482387
That too. But I'm pretty sure >>29482296 was referring to not reminding her about the whole "your daughter turned out evil and you had to kill her yourself" thing.
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>>29482405
shes not /d/
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>>29482411

Oh yes. Overall it is a terrible idea and we should not do it.
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>>29482413
She should be because god knows we could use some help handling three women after this shitstorm of a war blows over
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>>29482450

I'm pretty sure she can't do that on command. I think it requires a wizard.

And I'm not sure Rin would take a request to research that sort of thing well. Although Illya would probably go for it.
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>>29482450

but thats /y/ and she seems quite ok with that in Fate and UBW.
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>>29482422
And talking about Guinevre would lead strait to mentioning Mordred, so let's skip her as well.

>>29482450
My imagination has just tried to kill me thanks to you, anon.
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>>29482405
Well, Shirou, Saber, and Archer are all meant to reflect each other, and by extension the concepts of "self-sacrifice" and "living as a sword".
>>29482422
Except, MAYBE, a while down the line if we wind up doing the Saber end. Then we can maybe talk about it as a serious "I love you and I hate seeing you beat yourself up about this. It wasn't your fault, and I know it's hard for you to accept the idea that you couldn't do anything about it, but you couldn't. It was tragic, and horrible, but you can't carry the blame for her actions forever. You'll just wind up hurting yourself. Cry for her, cry for what might have been, but don't blame yourself." talk.
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>>29482480
>/y/
I mean /u/.

dammit keyboard.
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>>29482480
>but thats /y/
No, not that kind of help
>>
Huh. Imagine if Avengers (somehow) summons Mordred and revive her every time she is defeated, thus forcing Arturia to kill her again and again and again?
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>>29482666
>666
satan pls go
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"About time." I say from my position on the ground.

"What, did you want me to hit you?" She asks as I stand up. "Because if that's the case I can certainly hit you again."

"I wanted you to something." I respond. She slowly raises an eyebrow as I continue. "I don't know, there's just been this weirdly tense holding pattern between us lately. I wanted to see if I could break that." She gives em a weird look as I continue. "I don't know what that would mean. I just- you're one of the few people I trust unconditionally. I don't like us being... weird."

".... You're right, I shouldn't be focused on foolish-"

"Nope. No. Stop talking. If you're fixated on it that it's messing with you to that extent, then it's not just some foolish whim. It's something else."

We stare at each other for a long time, and she looks away. "... So what would that even mean?"

".... I don't know. That's not for me to say. But Saber?" I look at her, and she slowly turns back. "It's still me. We're still partners, we're still friends. No matter what else happens."

She doesn't say anything for a long time, before she finally talks. ".... I think I should be thinking about this. With more care than before. Do you mind?"

I get the feeling she's asking for some time with her thoughts.

[ ] Go.
[ ] Stay.

>I forgot I have a thing in the morning. If you guys wanna keep this alive, I'll keep going when I get back. Otherwise I'll see you later this week or something.
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>>29482885
>She gives em a weird look
Sakura and Rider confirmed peeping
>[ ] Go
We're also good at giving personal space as longs as it's not in our kitchen
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>>29482885
[x] Stay.
"Don't think. Feel."
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>>29482885
>[x] Go
I should go. /Sheploo.flv
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>>29482951
>"I think that applies to fighting, Shi..."
>"Be like water."
>"Please go."
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Rolled 3

>>29482885
>[ ] Go.

But a hug before we do so.

Shirou's love is unconditional.
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>>29483080
This.

Saber needs a good hug.
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>>29484721
Yeah, Arthur, King of England needs a good hug
I wonder if that fact still clicks with anyone
Sure as hell doesn't with me
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>>29482885
>[X]Go

Leave with a comforting pat on the shoulder. Then, FINALLY [X] Talk to Sakura and Rider.

DO NOT NEGLECT TEAM PURPLE!
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>>29485000
You're never too old or too lofty for a good hug.
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>>29485000
She's also just been holding hands with a boy.
Doesn't click with me, either.
Arthur is King of the Britons, by the by, not of England. England comes at LEAST 400 years after she bites it.

>>29482885
[x]Go. With a parting >>29482951
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>>29485086
Yeah, well she still hasn't bit it
Which I guess pretty much makes her the active ruler of Britain
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>>29482885
>[ ] Go talk with Sakura & Rider.
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>>29482885
>[ ] Go.

Well, Shirou does behave a mentally unstable person sometimes
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>>29482885
>[ ] Go.
Give her time to think.
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>>29485120
All in favor of, once we finish up this Grail War business and get a way for Saber to stay, taking a field trip to England so that she can see first hand that nobody blames her, and that she's actually seen as a hero? I wanna see how she reacts to the whole "When we most need him, he will return" legend.
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>>29489668
I don't see why not. Rin will be going there for school, anyway.
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I mean... we're still keeping this alive, right?
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>>29491334
I don't think AC Guy will continue this thread, so we'll have just wait for the next one.

So far, "Go but hug Saber first" wins, so we'll start with a hug next time.
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>>29491671

>I forgot I have a thing in the morning. If you guys wanna keep this alive, I'll keep going when I get back. Otherwise I'll see you later this week or something.

It's still around 6-8 hours until he gets back.
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Very late for this joke, but whatever
>>29476260
>She knows? I CARE that she knows?
>What's gotten into me all of the sudden?
A soul, maybe?

>>29481443
>I'm terrible at plans more complicated than swording people.
Previous thread in one sentence.

>>29483080
>[ ] Go.
>But a hug before we do so.
Putting my vote on this.

>>29491334
>we're still keeping this alive, right?
Why not? It's not like AC-Guy omits a word in every other sentence probably because he's so tired, right?
We need the thread!
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>all this twitter shit
Hey AC-Guy, having never followed AC Quest, I can only advise you to run a discussion thread with the players. Ask them what they want to do, see how they feel about shit.
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>>29491781
>Why not? It's not like AC-Guy omits a word in every other sentence probably because he's so tired, right?
>We need the thread!
Eh, what? I was just referencing to
>>29482885
>If you guys wanna keep this alive, I'll keep going when I get back

No need to get all edgy
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>>29495670
There really should be another updated version of that which goes back to being Type-Moon in general.
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>>29495670
>>29495754
Or an updated version that removes the Ufotable fate adaptation, as one is being made. Not sure which route is being made though.
I was going to mention removing F/HA from there too as it WAS 100% translated, but it's now 99.1% translated, and the script is only 73.9% validated.
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>>29495670
Whoever made it forgot "Ayako route when?"
>>
So AC-Guy's Twitter feed took a turn for the depressing today.

>I'll be totally honest. I kinda wish I could just reboot AC-Quest and start over with all the shit I've learned between it, F/A and talking-
>-to other QMs and stuff. It's pretty awkward where it is, it's going to have been a LONG ass time when it comes back with all new mechanics-
>-and it would be so much better if I was able to go back and change/rewrite a lot of the opening. I ran it on a whim, did most of the early-
>-shit on the fly, designed mechanics and watched it spiral into madness for an entire month. And now I'm looking at the clusterfuck of an-
>-opening run, about a million plot twists and notes with foreshadowing and fiddly-bits in front of me, and the long term stuff ahead.

>I'm going to go on record and say it now: I've basically been doing AC-Quest in the worst way I possibly could. Since the beginning. Part-
>-of it was just me not knowing what I was doing. I had never had a quest last more than two threads before. So if I could go back and start-
>-over, I could run everything solid and coherent, and make everything good. And of course, I'm having this revelation right fucking NOW.

>YOU KNOW, ABOUT FIVE SOLID STEPS PAST THE POINT OF FUCKING NO RETURN. Seriously, any-point prior to the attack on Vegas, I could swing it.
>Right now though, I couldn't go back since I've already revealed, at least partly, about half the freaking important plot twists.
>So my only real options are to either abandon the quest or drive the shambling awkward mess it's become over the finishline.

>The hell of it? This realization has been the most painful thing to happen to me since I started running. Just, you know, for context. Fuck.
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>>29496423
>I've already revealed, at least partly, about half the freaking important plot twists.
You know, it's entirely likely the players have either forgotten, or simply didn't notice, most of them. Look at us. We apparently figured out the big twist in the first thread, yet even with that being confirmed, we STILL can't figure out what it was!
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>>29496787
With the gaps between threads it's easy to forget things, sadly.
>>
So Seiba wants to fuck?
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>>29498713
It's probably less "wants Shirou to put his pOnOs in her vagOOO and j-j-jam it in" and more "has feelings for Shirou and knows even less about how to handle this than Shirou does.
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>>29498748
She should ask Rin-sama for guidance.
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>>29498810
Or Ilya.

Best sister knows how to direct her.
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>>29498825
>Ilya
Still kinda sad we ditched Ilya Route. Would have made all this relationship shit a lot simpler.
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>>29498810
Because Rin is handling her feelings for Shirou SO much better.
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>>29498926
That was exactly my point.
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>>29498875
Ilya's going to get sick of this shit and lock the five of us in a bedroom with an XL box of condoms, isn't she?
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>>29498941
Behold! The Great Sarcasmo!
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>>29498957
best imouto
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>>29498957
"Onii-chan, I'm going to Hang out with Taiga. You better have fucked *at least* two if them by the time I get back, okay?"
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>>29498957

Or she gets rider to throw everyone into the dreamscape again.
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>>29498974
I'm actually not being sarcastic at all.
If the two of them discuss how poorly they feel they're handling the situation, they might realise that it's entirely normal to have no clue how to deal with their first real relationship.
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>>29499054
We haven't actually seen Taiga in a while.
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>>29499062
I can't wait until Seiba figures out internet.

She'll be all like "how do I into feelings" on Yahoo answers all day
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>>29499054
...it worries me that I can actually see Ilya saying that.
It worries me more that Taiga might overhear.
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>>29499114
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
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>>29499155
We haven't seen Ayako in awhile either.
Or Issei.
Or Red Archer.
Any of them could be dead or dying right now. I don't know about you, but I would certainly regret not saving Archer if it mean we'd never have another chance to have a snark-off with him.
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>>29499258
We should find a way to keep him around permanently, too. That way he doesn't have to spend all his time trying to commit time travel suicide as part of an elaborate midlife crisis.
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>AC-Guy @ArmoredQuest 31s

>Quest back on soon, just need to run to the store and find some distant fuck in the corner of my soul after the day I had.
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>>29500392
I can donate some fuck, if it makes him feel better
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>>29500613

He may or may not be interested.

Are you a Lesbian?
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>>29500787
I'm whatever bizarre combination of sex and orientation that he needs me to be.
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Oh noes, missed Quest. S'what I get for sleeping ass early. Catch up time!
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>>29501065
Hurry, hurry! AC-Guy returns soon!
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>>29501102
>Assuming he hasn't been set aflame
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>>29500392
You're in Despair!

Your scathing self-criticism has left you in despair!
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>Hey Guys, I'm back. Can someone give me a course of-

>>29500787

>You sir, are an asshole.
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>>29501562
Lemme guess, one of your exes turned into a lesbian?
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>>29501562
Thank Seibah for taking care of Rin. Mention that Ilya might want company. Go be adorable at Team Purple.
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Rolled 18

>>29501562

Give AC-Guy fucks
Give saber a hug
Go
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>>29501562
Give Saber a hug or a reassuring hand squeeze, then go.

And quick! Before we once again succumb to the paranoia brought about by not knowingnthe whereabouts of some side characters!
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>>29501562
Go, Give Saber a comforting hug/pat on shoulder, go talk to Team Purple
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>>29501650

>No actually. It's the fact that I have a 'perfect score' as Dave put it.

>Literally every girl I've ever been with, expressed desire towards, or spoke to with amorous intent.... Has been into girls. A lot of them into guys too, thankfully. But yeah, I have a 100% success rate. A perfect score, as some of my friends would say.

>Some of my friends, it should be noted, are assholes.

>>29501705
>>29501678
>>29501678
>>29501668

>Yeah, alright. Writing.
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>>29501765
>Has been into girls. A lot of them into guys too, thankfully.
Any of them hook up with each other?
Any threesomes?
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I reach out and give Saber something that isn't quite a hug, but a reassuring squeeze nonetheless. She mumbles something like a thanks and I give her the space she needs, working my way back towards the living room.

When I arrive, I see that Sakura has again commandeered my kitchen, and is busy doing prep-work for dinner. I swallow my vague sense of irritation -I can't tell if it bothers me more or less every-time- and smile at her. She returns the smile, hesitantly, and I note that Rider is currently leaning against the wall nearby.

They watch me, and I get a vague sense of their unease as I shut the door behind me.

>Actions?
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>>29501950

>I like to avoid details of my personal life, thank you.
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>>29502007
Can I join in?
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Rolled 13

>>29502043

No then.

Wixardry?
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>>29502007
"Urge to cook... rising..."
>>29502043
Spoilsport.
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>>29502007
"...is there a reason you're looking at me like I just confessed a fetish for balloon animals?"
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>>29502007
Wait, wait, wait... what?

What's up with Team Purple and why are they uneasy with Shirou?
Something fishy is going on here, and it ain't dinner. And yet I don't have an in character excuse to barge in after that.

I guess Shirou needs a relaxing bath then? Seems to be the default reaction after a tiring day but before dinner.
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>>29502285
It's because we confronted Sakura about her thing with Zouken.
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>>29502007

"So is this the point where you two attack and ravish me?"
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>>29502007
>>29502195
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>>29502302
Also because both of them want our sword, and Rider feels bad about wanting our sword when Sakura wants our sword, because she doesn't think she deserves to be happy, especially if it means Sakura not getting what she wants, and...
FUCKING WOMEN AND THEIR FUCKING EMOTIONS!
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>>29502285

No, retreating due to the unease is a no no.

It'll basically confirm Sakura's self-beratement and drive her even further to go fully dark.
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>>29502351
>>29502302
So do we go have a talk, or what?
>>
HELP WITH DINNER.

Jesus people. This is not rocket surgery.
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>>29502435

Either talk or go about things like normal, showing Sakura and rider affection like normal.
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>>29502460
Yeah, this is probably the best option.
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>They watch me, and I get a vague sense of their unease as I shut the door behind me.
>I shut the door behind me.

Okay, so have a change of heart and come back right in, say that you're gonna help Sakura (heh, double meaning), and I guess work our way from there?

Also, besides Saber early just now and Sakura during Shirou's confrontation to her about Zouken, who else in the Alliance has slapped Shirou? Might be a charcter development measuring stick.
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>>29502899
First we get slapped.

Then we get a kiss.

Then we do the boney-roney-ride-the-pony. Rider skipped step one at some point, probably substituting stabbing us for slapping us.
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Rolled 12

Wheel of Misery, turn, turn, turn!
Which of AC-Guy's possessions has just burned?

>[ ] The fire is on fire.
>[ ] Couch
>[ ] Dog piss
>[ ] This Router
>[ ] Car
>[ ] Dinner
>[ ] Computer desktop
>[ ] Bath tub
>[ ] AC-Quest notes
>[ ] Non-lesbian love interest
>[ ] All of the above
>[ ] None
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>>29503504
Oh good, that was close.
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>>29503504
>None
The most comforting result is also the most disconcerting. If something's not burning, it can only be something infinitely worse.
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>>29503504
>Rolled 12
>[ ] None

It's worse than fire?
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>>29503522
>>29503523
>>29503537
Maybe someone broke into his house, clubbed him over the head, tied him to a chair, and is singing karaoke at him?
>>
For a long moment, I hesitate, trying to figure out what I should say. Or do. Or shouldn't say or do.

And then I realize what I'm doing, and what I should be doing. "Want some help with that?" I offer, gesturing towards the cutting board as I walk up.

Sakura blinks, like she's surprised I want to talk about cooking. ".... Sure. Let me grab your Apron, Sempai."

A few minutes later, I'm chopping meat and dicing vegetables. Skura briefly acts awkward, like she keeps expecting me to say or do something, but eventually relaxes as I fail to live into that expectation.

We get through cooking, and Saber arrives to tell us that Ilya said she would eat later, and Rin preferred to continue sleeping. As such, the table is less.... lively than it had been. The meal itself is also taken in relative silence, which is less because of discomfort and more a simple lack of anything to talk about.

It's after the meal is over, and Ilya comes looking for me that Rider pulls me aside. "I think it's probably for the best you didn't bring anything up after...." She hesitates. ".... Even if it might have been tempting to try and work things out."

[ ] It's a process.
[ ] How long can we let it rest?
[ ] Why would I? Nothing's changed.
>>
>>29503656
>[x] Why would I? Nothing's changed.
>>
>>29503656
>[ ] It's a process.
>>
>>29503656
[x] How long can we let it rest?
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>>29503656
>[ ] Why would I? Nothing's changed.
>>
>>29503656
>[ ] It's a process.
>[ ] How long can we let it rest?
>>
>>29503656
>[ ] It's a process.
Wounds opened take time to close
>>
>>29503656
>[ ] It's a process.
>>
>>29503656
>[ ] It's a process.
>>
"... It's a process." I tell her. "I think she has to make the next step anyway. I can't just keep pushing."

Rider nods sagely, and I move towards the shed. I see Sakura cleaning the dishes in the kitchen on my way past, clearly lost in thought.

When I arrive in the shed, Ilya makes me sit down and gives me a serious look, more serious than I remember her looking before. "This might be hard on you, Onii-chan. Are you ready? Or is there anything you want to do first?"

"Can we really put it off?"

"I'm as prepared as I can be. A few minutes wouldn't matter much. But forcing the memory onto you.... might have consequences." She frowns slightly. "For normal people it's no trouble at all. For mages it's only a little more complicated.... but for someone like you...."

She leaves the last part unsaid.

[ ] Ready.
[ ] Wait a minute.
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>>29504386
Deep, calming breath.
>[ ] Ready.

Although worryingly, Captcha - dyworldi justice
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>>29504386
>[ ] Ready.
>>
>>29504386
>[ ] Ready.
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>>29504386
ready
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>>29504386
>[x] Ready.
Time to nut up or shut up.
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>>29504386
>[ ] Ready.

Hug Illya for luck
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>[x] Ready.
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>>29504386
[x] Ready.
"I'd bear any burden to protect my family. Hit me."
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>>29503646

I'm betting it was a moose.
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>>29504386
Maybe we should ask to be restrained? Shirou has a knack for wake-up-punching people
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>>29504793
>"Rider, chain me down while my little sister fucks my brain."
>"That's pretty kinky, even for me."
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>>29504793

This can only end in getting attacked by sharks while we are in no position to fend them off.
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>>29504793
Since when did we start caring about hurting ourself?
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>>29504811
Oh my...

>>29504816
We tend to wake-up-punch OTHER people, like Archer that one time.
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>>29504863

I'm betting that's just Archer. Who totally deserves it, by the way.

We haven't punched anyone we actually care about when waking up, have we?
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>>29504863
Also Shirou punches Illya on accident after waking up from exact same brain-diving
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>>29504863
>like Archer
Hence "Ourself"
>>
Holy crap, I made it for once!

>[ ] Ready
>>
"I guess I'm ready."

"You're sure?" Ilya asks once more to confirm. As I give her a nod and lay down as she instructs, she takes my head in her lap and I feel....

It's not like falling asleep. Falling asleep is like slowly drifting off. This feels more like something's hooked my eyelids and is currently yanking consciousness away from me.

[DC16 Sleep Check]

>brb, cooking dinner.
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Rolled 16

>>29505081
>>
Rolled 1

>>29505081

Good thing Shirou's memories are missing some spots then. Foreign memories won't be a problem!
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Rolled 10

>>29505081
inb4 fire
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Rolled 18

>>29505081
We fucked up already
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Rolled 18

>>29505090
Hey we got it firs-

>>29505095
Goddammit, Anon.
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>>29505095
Never roll again.
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Rolled 15

>>29505081
oh god why
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>>29505095

CUNT FUCKING NIGGER DICKS
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>>29505095
FUCK
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Rolled 18

>>29505081
I AM HERE TO SAVE SLEEPYTIME
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>>29505095

ASSSSSHOLLLLLLLE
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>>29505095
This kills the Shirou.
Also the Illya.
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>>29505106
>>29505107
>>29505126

All deze 18s
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The bike is securely stowed away, right?

RIGHT?
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>>29505095
Somehow I knew the dice would fuck us over for doing anything remotely resembling canon.
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>>29505157
Nope, it just ran over Ilya and caught us on fire!
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>>29505095
all is lost

ALL IS LOST
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Rolled 7

>>29505081
>>
>AC-Guy @ArmoredQuest 2m
>/tg/ has just rolled a crit-fail for sleeping.

>Sean is posting this for me.

>As I am laughing too hard to type it myself.
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>>29505486
Now you too know the joy that can be found in the suffering of others, AC-Guy!
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>>29505486
RIP AC-Guy.
He died in a blaze of glory
Laughing at /tg/'s incompetence with dice.
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I fall back, into dreams.

The dream.

Fire is everywhere, girl, explosion, darkness, hospital.

Fire is everywhere, girl, explosion, darkness, hospital.

Fireiseverywheregirlexplosiondarknesshospital.

FIREISEVERYWHEREGIRLEXPLOSIONDARKNESSHOSPITAL.

I feel a weird pulling pressure and I weakly try to slap it away.

Suddenly it feels like my hand it being stabbed by a lot of needles, and I wake up fully shaking my arm. I see Bedivere latched to the end of it, and he's slowly letting go now that I'm rousesd.

I look back up and see Ilya staring down at me concerned.

"Onii-chan?"

"So uh.... things didn't quite go as-"

"What the hell was that?" She cuts me off mid sentence, clearly having not heard what I said.

"You mean the dream?"

"Was that THE dream?" She asks suddenly, staring at me with what can only be described as horror. "The one you've been having every single night for the last decade? You've been SHRUGGING THAT OFF?"

>What say?
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>>29505531
".....Yes"
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>>29505531

"Just a dream." shrug.

"Weren't we suppose to be dreaming something more important?"
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>>29505531
Yes? I mean, yes.
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>>29505531
"It gets easier."
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>>29505531
I forgot that we named the dog Bedivere. I was awfully confused for a moment there.
>[X] >>29505563
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>>29505531
"I was under the impression Rider had already told everyone. Rider hasn't told everyone? I'm somewhat impressed."
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>>29505531
"Well, yeah. But everyone has bad dreams, so I don't see what the problem is."
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>>29505531
...you lost me
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>>29505531
"Not a DECADE, more like eight years, tops."
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>>29505531
[x] "It's usually more coherent than that. Less manic repetition. But yeah, more or less."
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>>29505531
"Yeah. Sorry. Shall we try it again, then? I'll try not to let you see it this time."
>>
...Tactical Dreamcatcher Action?
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>>29505531
It's nothing I'm not used to. It isn't important right now anyway. More importantly, let's try again.
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>>29505531
Pat Bedivere on the head. Good dog. Very, very good dog.

"The dreaming could never be half as bad as the real thing was, and I survived it back then.

...I'm sorry you had to see that unprepared. Rider even sort of knew what it was going to be like in advance, and she still reacted just like this."
>>
"Yes?" I respond slowly, looking at her. "I was under the impression Rider kinda already told everyone. I've had a lot of time to get used to it, anyway."

".... Rider said you had recurring nightmares about it. She didn't tell us it was that.... Vivid." Ilya says, voice flat as her mind is clearly elsewhere. "You've really been doing that every night? Every single night?"

"Not every night." I tell her, grabbing her hand gently. "Just most of them. And sometimes it's a lot less vivid. I think the only reason it's been that... intense... lately is because of how much I've been dwelling on it. Because of the significance the end of the last war had on this one."

She shakes her head slowly. "I can't believe you just.... get up and go about your day like that. And you never TOLD anyone?"

"I told Taiga and Kiritsugu. I think when I stopped talking about it, they might've just thought I stopped having them. I mean, was I just supposed to randomly insert that into conversation?"

"Or just talked about it." She tells me with a sigh. ".... This dream stuff clearly isn't going to work out.

[ ] Agree.
[ ] Convince her otherwise (DC15).
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Rolled 6

>>29505756
>[ ] Convince her otherwise (DC15).
Heh.
>Expecting Shirou to give up that easy
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Rolled 4

>>29505756
[x] Convince her otherwise (DC15).
We should let the dice gods get the anger out of their systems while we're NOT in imminent peril.
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>>29505756
What? No of course it'll work I mean it seems unlikely to work that's how we'll know it will you know?
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Rolled 18

>>29505756
>[ ] Convince her otherwise (DC15).
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Rolled 19

>>29505756
>[X] Convince her otherwise (DC15).

"It screwed up once. No reason it'll do so twice. God doesn't play dice with the universe."
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Rolled 7

>>29505802
Hue.
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>>29505776
aaaaaaaa
>>29505786
AAAAAA
>>29505791
oh thank god
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>>29505756
>[ ] Convince her otherwise (DC15).
Should we get Rin by now, just in case?
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>>29505858

We still haven't managed the actually DOING the dreaming part. Don't celebrate yet.
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>>29505756
Rolls are already dealt with, but still.

"But now YOU know. Unless you're guiding me into this dream completely blind, it should probably be easier to work around now that you're better informed.

...not that I'm the expert on dream stuff here. It just feels like how this would work."
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>>29505869
No, we can't! We can't wake up Rin until we've solved the problem that her family has been puzzling over for generations so we can suddenly burst into her room waving the Jewel Sword around screaming "UNLIMITED POOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!"
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>>29505901

She will kill us. And probably kiss us.

The main question is the order in which it happens.
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>>29505938
It'll be a bit like this.
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>>29505531
>girl
Huh?
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>>29505973
>Ben_Stiller.jpg
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>>29505901
>I HAVE THE POOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR!
ftfy
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>>29505984
There's been hints of a girl before
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Rolled 19

>>29505984

saber
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>>29505984
>>29505994
>>29505997
Last time, we suspected that the glimpses of Saber were because she was actually there in the flesh, trying to snap us out of it.

Could've been glimpses of Illya this time, or it could be that you're right and the girl was actually part of the dream itself.
>>
>>29506019
The girl -is- probably part of the dream
Probably Saber
Could be our dead sister or something, but probably Saber
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Rolled 7

So, there was a blond girl in our dream. As in, we probably saw her 10 years ago.
Who could that be? Saber? Arcueid? Gilgamesh?
>>
Why can't she just use the Campione method of knowledge transfer?
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>>29506019
Did a girl also appear when Rider dream dived into Shirou? I can't seem to recall that particular instance happening.
Strange that it's only with Saber and Ilya that it's more pointed out.

I'm starting to think it's Irisviel due to her connection to Saber, Ilya, and by familial proxy, us via Kiritsugu.
>>
"No, it's our only real option." I tell her.

"Shirou.... That dream-"

"Won't happen this time. I'll just... suppress it or something."

She frowns, doubtfully. "You're sure?"

"I think so."

She hesitates, but slowly puts her hands on my forehead as I relax. I start to feel that pulling sensation again....

[DC15 Sleep dammit]
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Rolled 11

>>29506093
>>
Rolled 20

>>29506093

ERE WE GO
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Rolled 20

>>29506093
>making it another roll
why
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Rolled 7

>>29506093
inb4 another 1.
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>>29506083
IIRC it was stated that it was a blonde girl the first time around, though, which points toward Saber.

>>29506105
>>29506109
Out like a goddamn light.
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>>29506105
>>29506109
For once, they favor us
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>>29506105

ORKZ IZ MADE FOR SLEEPING

>>29506109

THE.

FUCK.

Whats gonna happen now.
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>>29506105
>>29506109
Dice, I don't understand you at all.
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>>29506105
>>29506109
Oh.

Rin is going to be *so* pissed.
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>>29506093
>"Illya, it doesn't concern me, so relax."
>>29506105
Aw yiss
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>>29506105
>>29506109
>the moment Shirou realises that someone else's mental well-being is on the line
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>>29506105
>>29506109
>>
I swear the dice just wanted Ilya to see the dream then go 'oh, by the way, here's your sword. Have a nice day!'
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>>29506132

... Fucking hell.
>>
>>29506105
>>29506109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGV7WsNAZyc
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I relax, and slowly I start to drift into the dream. The arguments and arcane discussion go over my head. But I see....

I see something. A bearded man. He looks.... Not German, but more like something that would become known as German.

And he's... He's holding....

My eyes snap awake and I sit up. "I think I might have it."

I walk over to the table and see the jewels and components Rin has. I've never done it like this before, but if Alchemy is turning things into other things.... And I can perfectly copy swords by looking at them....

[DC17 Sword Magic]
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Rolled 2

>>29506339

OH SHIIITTTT
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Rolled 14

>>29506339
My body is made of jeweled swords
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Rolled 4

>>29506339
you can't just give it to us, can you
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Rolled 20

>>29506339
SWORD.
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Rolled 7

>>29506339
>"Here's a wooden sword Rin, I hope it'll do."
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Rolled 5

>>29506339
Stiff DC there.
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>>29506369
Ffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuu
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Rolled 13

>>29506347
aaaa

>>29506360
aaaaaaaaaa

>>29506368
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>29506369

BASED ANON
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>>29506347
>>29506360
>>29506368
so much for double fucking twenties
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>>29506369
So remember when we picked the one that gave us 4 rolls?

Looking pretty good right about now.
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>>29506380
>>29506376
Remember that perk we picked up?
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Rolled 17

>>29506376
Nah, we got it. We have a perk that goes to 4th roll now.
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>>29506375

We are attempting a sorcery.

It's kinda a big deal.
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Rolled 12

>>29506376

Dear anon,

we took the ability to roll 4 dice now instead of 3.

WE. WON.
>>
Well, the archive description is gonna be all sorts of interesting after all of this.
>>
So we can add 'fucked the Second Magic in the ass' to the list of things we've achieved that were done on our own initiative, rather than as madcap reactions to dire situations.

Remind me again what else is on that list?
>>
Welp, now we can't go to London for sure, or we get disected
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>>29506457
They'd have to catch us first.

And there's no way in hell we'd make it easy for them.
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>>29506457
We're sorta buddy-buddy with Arcueid, and after what we did just now, probably the Wizard Marshall too.
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>>29506457
With the way we've been rolling, we'd get discovered in five minutes, kill Barthomelloi Lorelei while escaping then get taken down by a hypnotised traffic cop.
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Rolled 5

>>29506496

Still strictly human on human affair
>>
>>29506490
Well it's not like we could do much. I mean, Shirou's "powerlevel" is pretty low compared to some of the high-tier magi
Then again, Typemoon's power rankings make little sense
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>>29506502
>then get taken down by a hypnotised traffic cop
Reminds me of that gif, where dude fights off a squad of cops
You know the one
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>>29506513
We have a piece of the Second Magic now. I think that evens things out just a little bit.
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>>29506513
Considering how Rin reacts to everything we do, we exist so far outside the normal realm of Magic that even the concept of a 'power level' no longer applies.
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>>29506535
Probably
Besides, EMIYA probably fought a shitload of renegade magi and Dead Apostles and was pretty good at that, so we may have a lot of potential
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>>29506567
He cheated, though.
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>>29506591
You mean the counter-guardian stuff? What about before he became one?
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>>29506591

The counter-guardian thing basically just grants an unlimited supply of prana. It doesn't directly improve peak combat effectiveness, only the amount of time you can spend in combat without burning yourself out.

EMIYA was plenty scary in his own right.
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Rolled 8

>>29506672

Do we need to bring out the wheel of misery?
>>
>>29506757
It's only been 43 minutes.
And we did just nat.20.
>>
I stick my hand out and focus on the mental image, placing my other hand on the table and feeling the various bits of jewels, incense, Rin's blood, and other magical components. I can see the sword, and how it was connected to it's wielder. I couldn't copy it perfectly, not with borrowed eyes. Even my eyes aren't perfect.

But this.... It would be good enough to replicate the effect if I could do it. And it being less powerful wasn't really a worrying factor when it's power was already infinite by it's very nature.

I reach out, and close one eye. I allow the pattern to form. The way I'm doing it now is.... odd. I can use my magic to shape it, and something of the alchemy Rin taught me to give it actual form with the materials she provided.

Quite brilliant really. I wasn't able to see the form before, but now that I can.... I can give her exactly what she wanted.

With a bright flash, the ingridients are sucked into the projection and I use the part of Rin's magic she left behind to bind it and fold it into itself.

Power. More than I've ever used, and more than I ever held seems to be forming around it, and suddenly.... the power starts to swell from within too. Swelling and filling in an impossible way that seems to go on forever.

And then it ends, and I set the sword down on the table.

Ilya and I stare at each other for several long seconds, and then I wrap it in a bundle of cloth and go sprinting to Rin's room.

[ ] Wake her up gently. "Rin, we did it."
[ ] Knock on the door. "Rin, You need to see this."
[ ] Slam door open. "Rin, I accidentally the Second Magic."
>>
Rolled 17

>>29506812

[x] Wake her up with a Kiss
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>>29506812
>[ ] Slam door open. "Rin, I accidentally the Second Magic."

I wanna, I really wanna.

But no
>[X] Knock on the door. "Rin, You need to see this."
>>
>>29506812
[x] >>29506823
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>>29506812
>[ ] Slam door open. "Rin, I accidentally the Second Magic."
As if the others are an option here.
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>>29506812
Get a beard, wizard hat and robe on and introduce yourself as the Wizard Marshall.
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>>29506812

>[ ] Slam door open. "Rin, I accidentally the Second Magic."
Because the first two choices are open to misinterpretation.
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>>29506812
[x]Walk in, drop it on her. "One Second Magic, as ordered."
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>>29506849

Do not drop artifact of limitless phenomenal cosmic power on sleeping Rin.

She will hit us with it.

It will end poorly.
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>>29506812
>other
Kiss the girl

This deserves a celebration
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>>29506812
Wake her gently, hey Rin? Rmember that thing I said I wouldn't do? I kinda did.
>>
>>29506844
Can we trace a beard out of swords?

And we put on our robe and wizard hat.
>>
If we burst in, I think shes having a wank
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>>29506812
Run through house holding Ilya on our shoulders as she waves the sword.
Scream "Spooky magic happened and now I'm a wizard".
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>>29506812
Tell Illya to wake Rin and lead her to us.
Sit on a throne made of swords in the living room, with the sword on our lap.
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>>29506891
Oh... Well then
>>29506812
>[ ] Slam door open. "Rin, I accidentally the Second Magic."
>>
Guys, consider this:
What if Merlin is visiting Rin?
DO NOT wake her forcefully.
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>>29506812
>[ ] Knock on the door. "Rin, You need to see this."
>>
Guys! You're missing the most important question, does this mean we count as a swordceror now?
>>
>>29506951
Then it'd be like the tables turned. She was the one who woke Shirou up during the Merlin dream visit.
>>
Rolled 1

>>29506812
[x] Slam door open. "Rin, I accidentally the Second Magic."
THE SECOND MAGIC DOES NOT KNOCK GENTLY
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>>29507137
>1
Well that isn't ominous at all.
>>
>>29506812
>[ ] Slam door open. "Rin, I accidentally the Second Magic."

I HAVE THE POWERRR!
>>
I open the door, letting it bounce off the wall. Rin rolls over and sleepily looks at me as I stand over her bed. Apparently she can tell there's something serious going on from the look on my face. "Shirou?" She begins groggily as she sits up. What-"

"Rin, I think I accidentally the second magic." I say in something of a rush.

"What?!" She begins startled. ripping at the bundle of cloth and unveiling the sword. Her hand rests on it almost reverentially. "Shirou... this.... This is incredible."

"Yeah. So, I did it? Yay us?" I respond looking at her. "I don't really understand what this even does. All I know is trying to gauge it's power is like trying to measure how bright the sun is."

"It has potentially infinite power." She answers simply. "Think of it like this, there's an infinite number of parallel worlds out there. This can draw on magic from all of them."

"What."

"So, imagine there was a version of Fuyuki where there were no mages. There's nobody using that ambient mana. So it takes from there and brings it here."

"I built a transdimensional portal with my mind after looking at a picture of one." I say slowly, finally comprehending what Rin asked me to do. "The mages association is going to freak out."

"Normally something like this would get you a sealing designation." Rin concedes, looking at me. "But we can just lie about it."

".... What?"

"Well, I mean, my family has been secretly working on this for a long time. I'll just tell them I inherited an almost completed puzzle, not a half finished jumbled mess." She smiles. "Actually, this would probably secure me a lifetime membership and a decent scholarship besides that. I could even bring you and Sakura in by claiming an apprenticeship." She starts smiling. "This could almost set us for life."
>>
>>29507210

"Yeah, all we have to do is survive the next few days." I say kinda distractedly, and Rin suddenly snaps back out of her mood.

"Right, yes, of course." She smiles. "We still accomplished my families dream. We still...." She throws her arms around me, and I drop the sword onto the bed next to her. "Could you make another one?"

".... You want me to make another one?"

"Well, I'm thinking long term. If I could dissect this one to study it more, I could learn a lot more from it. I just wouldn't want to do that without a spare." She says, looking at me concerned. "I mean, if you can't then I'm still miles ahead of where I was...."

"No." I think looking inwards. "I.... think I could make another one. I just don't think I could make it while that one still exists."

Rin surprises me, and herself apparently, when she then kisses me full on the lips. "Ummm...." She begins, blushing furiously. "I uh...."

"Call it getting caught in the moment?" I joke, nervously.

Rin smiles again, still blushing, and jokingly tells me to get out so she can keep sleeping. Right after she locks the sword in a truck in the corner of the room.

I step outside, surprised slightly by her reaction, and I let out a breath I didn't know I was holding in. I feel better now. More importantly, I feel better about our odds now.

I look into the deepening gloom, and for what feels like the first time.....

I smile.

>Verse 54 end. Holy shit, when was the last time I actually ended a thread like this?
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>>29507220
Never?
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>>29507220
>Think of it like this, there's an infinite number of parallel worlds out there. This can draw on magic from all of them
>"Does that mean you will rob alternate yous of power sourse and kill them?"

Thanks for running
>>
Also, the thread's over, so if anyone has stuff they want to ask/talk about in the afterwards I'll stick around for a little bit.

>>29507232

I have done, but the last time I can remember was like, during AC-Quest.

I remember actually having real ending points with actual 'episode cap' moments.K
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>>29507220
Whew. That was satisfying.

Thanks for running this thread. Enjoy your sleep, AC-Guy.

Welp, somebody archive it and get some witty descriptions and tags in.
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>>29507266
I have never followed AC-Quest because the setting doesn't interest me at all, so I wouldn't know about anything that happens there.
As for questions, has there been a lot of plans that we ALMOST got working, but gave up at literally the last moment?
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>>29507266
Oh you mentioned Ac-quest on twitter right? Why not just do a complete reboot from the start with Alex and when he gets the necklace have it download his past selves memories and claim time hax?

Back to this quest though I'm liking how things are feeling like wer're making tangible progress now, though do we know how CAster and Souichibro are doing?
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>>29507266
>>29507307
Write it and we will come.
At this point, you could do pretty much anything and we'd roll with it. So long as you're happy writing it, we'll be happy reading it.

I will mourn deeply if you decide to let it die.
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>>29507298

Kinda...ish? I honestly expected you to go for the campsite a lot sooner. Other than that, nothing really springs to mind.

>>29507307

>Twitter

Yeah. I don't even know.

>Time travel anything

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

>Progress.

Remember that thing about you guys not going over the tipping point?

You guys are about to go over the fucking tipping point. Finally.

Jesus.

>>29507337

I'm not going to let it die. Either I'm going to keep going, or reboot or.... something. I don't even fucking know. But I'm not gonna just let it die.
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>>29507220
>truck
Big room. So is the rollercoaster in full swing now? Are we ready to start Avenger's wild ride?
>>
Oh shit, has this been archived?
>>
Rolled 10

>>29507461
>going over the tipping point

This is directly related to Rin kissing us, right?
>>
>>29507461
When this is all over mind giving us a run down on how we could have done things differently, i.e. been more effective done, done better done worse etc.? It would really help us understand how you plot things out and think so we can have an easier time of it in future quests without constantly second guessing ourselves quite so much. Honestly we'll always second guess ourselves I'd just like it to be cut down a tad.
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>>29507220
>Rin smiles again, still blushing, and jokingly tells me to get out so she can keep sleeping.
Something is wrong. She haven't killed us.

I don't believe AC-Guy is still there, but I'll ask anyway.
>>29505531
>Fire is everywhere, girl, explosion, darkness, hospital.
Was the girl a clear image or we need to investigate further if we want to understand her presence? The talk with Ilya seemed like "nothing new here" but we (the players) definitely haven't seen any girl while dreaming with Rider. That's confusing.


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