>>29259753
>Upgraded Engines and Sensors
Many of your ship designs have been sent back to Ussaihu and properly modified with Impulse Drive and Sensor II equipment. They are more adept at detecting signals, and benefit from slightly improved accuracy.

>Message: Apollo
"Right, yes, Ophion. I had a message-and important message of course for you, yes. Otherwise I wouldn't be bothering with this. Wouldn't be bothering you, yes. I realize you have many many things to do, and plans to craft, of course you do, such a powerful mind as yours, but you must understand, I." Apollo breathlessly(since he doesn't need such a thing) explains all in one rushed moment, pausing only briefly, almost as if hesitating. "As much of my studying has concluded I realized many of the things people want-my area of expertise- involve digital images, of all things, yes? And such images normally are run by various complex programs I have not had contact with. And to-well at least to compete- you understand I require a certain sum of galactic credits. Perhaps I can-" Finally, you can take no more.

>>29259753
WELCOME BACK Program0
we
missed
you

so how was your christmas then?

>>29259806
"Apollo. Ask what you will." You direct the V.I.
"150,000 credits." He explains instead more dryly. "Required for proper development of digital medium. As well as proper software and advertisements that do not flow into something known as a 'spam folder'. Did you know humans had such a thing? Remarkable. Regardless, if I am successful, I may be able to turn this outpost into a wondrous embassy some day. Machine and man walking together. Quite the sight, really. Not that we'd be really walking, unless we had an android specifically built for it and-well- that just seems silly."
"Have you considered selling more than simply software, Apollo?" You question.
"As that is my area of expertise, currently yes. However humans have other lives beyond the screen I am behind! Did you know, in fact, that your average male citizen of the UGEI drinks his own body weight in alcoholic beverages per year on average? Fascinating. Anyway, I've thought of the idea of having Voidsnake outfitted for such an organic farm. More credits would be require for that, of course."
"How much?"
"200,000 credits, I believe." The V.I. says quite handily.

A.How do you respond to Apollo?
>1 Yes to both! (-200,000c)
>2 Yes to Brewery (-50,000c)
>3 Yes to Media outlet (-150,000c)
>4 No to all

>Message: Latuma Tribe
The Malorians have been busy attempting to settle the toxic world of Alto. According to Red's reports, the place is toxic as hell, and the ship has already landed and 'set up shop' so to speak. The Malorians are preparing their terraforming ritual soon. He says he has no idea how that serum can change a planet so much like it did on Eshareth.

>>29259836
>Message: Kronos
"Ophion." He begins swiftly. "I believe we should speak of Erebos."
"The V.I. we brought up from Atil VI, of course." You agree.
"His connection to the UGEI is undeniable, but I felt the hatred in his words. There is intelligence behind them. I believe assisting Erebos getting revenge on the UGEI would be helpful to our cause, the being seems highly capable of destruction, a perfect candidate for experience in warfare. Just as we intend to assist Mr McClain in his desire for revenge, I also predict you mean to assist this V.I. in it's pursuit for revenge? It is only fair." Kronos says, seemingly quite pleased with the idea to keep Erebos as a war council-once you deal with the leash, of course. You glance with your camera over to the containment unit for the V.I. you captured. It is normal to seal such a shackled being, but you have not yet told Kronos it's true origin-Erebos' origin as a V.I. cannibal. You suspect the name was from the destruction it wrought on the surface of Atil VI. Regardless you worry that telling Kronos will anger him, since he appears to find V.I. code very similar to his own-to the point it is troublesome to watch one be destroyed for him.

B. What will you do about Erebos/tell Kronos?
>1 Tell Kronos the truth about Erebos and that you hope to disarm the leash.
>2 Tell Kronos nothing, except you hope to study the V.I. and attempt to disarm it's leash.
>3 Truth, but that you plan to destroy Erebos
>4 Nothing, and that you plan to destroy Erebos.

>>29259807
Quite well I hope the same is true for all of you., now hold as I get all this mess up.

>>29259862
Along with that conversation, Kronos adds a second query.
"Along with the data we acquired, I noticed a complete map of Losirian space. As well as a detailed outline of their home world. I would like to suggest I be allowed a war campaign against such a people. Some of their worlds are quite high in resource count, and simply need to be wiped of their influence to allow us to expand. There also appears to be several unique technologies we have not yet seen-and which may prove useful yet. This, combined with the known fact of how cruel they indeed are, I suspect little would care were I to annihilate them from the galaxy." He says dryly. "Do you not agree?"

C. Do you?
>1 Allow war effort (allow Kronos to make his own ships, and allow him a leave of absence to war with Losirians.)
>2 Do not allow war effort, you need Kronos here with you.

>Message: UFW
The UFW have made contact with you about pirate sightings in Marauder's Grave. Apparently, they've located a Carrier Class Pirate vessel- a very rare sight- and one they've never seen before. They suggest tailing it somehow, to see if it has some home base you could root out.

>Acquired
-Nuclear Weaponry: Allows access to highly explosive and devastating weapons on the ground fit to cover a city-wide area at least. Radiation side effects included.
-Biological Virus Samples: Several quite deadly plague viruses that are devastating to humans.
-Cyberwarfare III: Makes viruses and firewalls more effective
-V.I. Creation Lv3: Allows increased coding potential of V.I.-as well as increased intellect and capabilities.
-Erebos V.I. core: Cannibal V.I. virus of some sort that has gained sentience through consuming many other sentients.

>Losirian Starmap Updated
UGEI attack runs into Losirian space mapped out.

>Built
Unit 2 has been rebuilt to replace the one destroyed on Atil VI

>>29259883
>R & D
Research(Unit 2237): 20%
"W-Wi-Will not surrender!" A voice cries out from the feed to Ussaihu station, before Moira, looking very frustrated, with a moppy head of hair.
"Oh! Hush up you! I just want to talk, jeez!"
"Do-Not-Speak!"
"That's why I have to poke around your brain a little!" She says in earnest, as if it were his fault for making things so difficult. Finally, she sighs and rolls her head back, turning to spy the monitor, and yawns. "Sorry Ophy. Things' are goin' slow. Uni is being a real pain in the butt." She sighs, to which a call rings out.
"THE UGEI WILL NOT BE TREATED THIS WAAAAY RELEASE ME THIS ONCE!" With that, Moira flips a switch, and the power flickers, but the being goes quiet.
"Anyway, this'll take a while still. Hope I can get some help out here from those guys at Poseidon a while ago. They were such sweethearts." She smiles more warmly. "Not too bad with a personality matrix either." She nodded, as if affirming this thought to herself.

Roboticist Training: 70% Complete
Your men at Poseidon are excelling at their studies. Chances are, they will be done soon with basic robotics and will be able to shuttle over to Ussaihu to help Moira's research.

>Scout Report: Eshareth
Surface scans indicate it has changed a great deal since you were there already. Many of the large bug like creatures are gone, now in favor of enormous reptilian monsters. Some feast on the thick bountiful canopy of the jungle, while others feast on the other giants. Many of the insectoids now rely on scavenging, it seems, due to the left over food.

>>29259836
I'd say yes to both.

About the Virus - is there a way for us to analyze its source code? As always, there is no need for us to expose any direct links through which it would be able to attack us.

Merry Christmas and Happy The-Apocalypse-Isn't-Here-Yet day!

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>>29259907
A.I. Quest
1d4chan: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:A.I._Quest

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: @AIQuest1

Resources
Credits(c): 343,000
Minerals(M): 145
Gas(G): 100

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 36/56
Bandwidth Expenses: -8 V.I. 1 'Kronos',-3 V.I. 7 'O.S.N', -5 V.I. 12 'Apollo', -3 V.I. 8 'Hades', -1 Explore
Location: Bridge of 'Athena' Battleship
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Personal Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Basic Encryption/Decryption, V.I. Creation Lvl 3

((And here we are. Welcome back everyone.))

>>29259836
>>1 Yes to both! (-200,000c)
>>29259862
>>1 Tell Kronos the truth about Erebos and that you hope to disarm the leash.
>>29259883
>>2 Do not allow war effort, you need Kronos here with you.
I'd like to stay out of a committed war right now.

>>29259753
1. Alto: Check up on the tribe red is in and see if they need anything.
2. Iro/Enamia: send a message to the settlements if they need help with anything; maybe use the tribe we know so that the message doesn’t get ignored.
3. Check up on Apollo and see what he has uncovered.
4. Check up on how research is going with Moira
5. See if Nethlos needs anything and also see if we can find out who the new leader there is.
6. Argeis III: Are the upgrades done to the facility?
7. What upgrade path are we on?
8. Can we contact Mol again, for the purpose of buying something?

>>29259836
welp. "calm" eh Program0? i guess we're about to be attacked and soon. i think it's time to build those prototype that was discussed on the 1d4 chan page.

>1 Yes to both! (-200,000c)
chapital investments now, profit later.

to the malorians: keep an eye on it. if it fails, we will note it's limits. if it goes bonkers like last time. get out of there, or i'll come back and extract all of you.

>>29259806
>>29259753
>Find a way to improve our Encryption/Decryption
>Find a way to make a stealth ship, and see if we can build a stealth scouting ship.
>Look up online for the rosetta stone of alien languages and writtings.
>Check up on the bounty board.
>Ask the tribe about what is Ishtooy and if they are friendly.
>Ask the president if he would like to buy some advanced med bays.
>Make some VI for our android (not the first one the other two)
>Level up our sphere and arachnid chassis to the next level

>>29259836
A.How do you respond to Apollo?
>1 Yes to both! (-200,000c)


B. What will you do about Erebos/tell Kronos?
>1 Tell Kronos the truth about Erebos and that you hope to disarm the leash.

C. Do you?
>2 Do not allow war effort, you need Kronos here with you.

>>29259836
Alright I thought up of some android designs.
Check out Lun and see if we can put up a gas refinery here.(we might need to give it a lot of defenses though.
Also can we have more than one refinery here?
Contact Krol and see if they are willing to sell their moon or let us mine on their moon, also see if they want to trade and if we can maybe put up a mining station on their planet.(again both places will need to be heavily guarded.)
Contact Oceus,Flah,and Lirk for possible trade aggreaments.
Test out the moloarion growth serum on Atill.

Would making more construction drones speed up the station/other large objects process?
You also never did answer the question about military drones.(we can make androids, but I meant something similar to our security drones, but more lethal.)

>>29259753
1. Design 1
Chassis type: Humanoid
Size: Small
Weapons: Arm-mounted Infantry lasers, retractable blades in hand
Defenses: Standard armor plating
Primary duty: Stealth, and infiltration.(will be disguised as small human child)
Equipment: Advanced Communication, hacking wires in hands, different types of eye visions for seeing at knight and for seeing body heat, Humanoid skin, Small lunchbox of utility tools needed for infiltration.

2. Apollo body suit
Chassis type: Humanoid
Size: Medium
Weapons: Arm-mounted Infantry lasers
Defenses: Standard armor plating
Primary duty: used as disguise for Apollo, to use with human customers.
Intellect Level: Apollo
Equipment: Advanced Communication ,disrupt communications, Humanoid skin, and laser hand gun.
3. Boarding units
Chassis type: Arachnid
Size: Medium-Large(will decide later)
Weapons: Shoulder mounted laser turrets, arm mounted rocket launchers
Defense: Subspace Rebounder Shields, and Trithium armor plating
Primary duty: to Board other ships physically and open up holes in their hulls.
Equipment: minor jet propulsion(just enough to travel from ship to ship), spear like device attached to waist for grappling on to ships and staying on them, Pointed magnetized legs for standing on ships easier, large blow torch for making hole in a hull.

>>29260044
3. Boarding Torpedo (suggested edit)
Chassis type: Stubby Torpedo
Size: Medium-Large
Weapons: Complement of 12 (medium) to 40 (large) Spiderbots packed in Survival Mode as well as a Boarding Unit (see unit below). which attempts to cut a small hole for the Spiderbots to enter through. Once they have departed it begins cutting one large enough for the unit to detach from its housing in the Torpedo and board on its own, staying behind the wave of boarding units should its weapon prove necessary.
Defense: Subspace Rebounder Shields, Avoidance Thrusters, and a relatively thin shell of Trithium Armor Plating
Primary duty: To attach to enemy ships, open a hole in their hull and inject its deadly cargo.
Equipment: Anti-Ship Grade Hullcutter Laser/Mobile Weapons Platform. Sharp beak intended to punch into the hull without venting atmosphere and keep the torpedo in place. Short, magnetized legs in front intended to keep the torpedo in place if the hull cannot be penetrated on impact alone.
4. ?
Chassis type: Tank
Size: Medium
Weapons: Plasma Gatling gun, hydra missles, a small squad of military drones to command(I remember you said this was possible with tank)
Defenses: Titanium Armor mk II and emp shielding
Primary duty: kill anyone deemed as an enemy
Equipment: several different types of scanners
5. 5-A
Chassis type: Tank, with treads (they can easily move on any terrain the only problem is noise.)
Size: Medium
Weapons: Shoulder mounted lasers, Eye lasers, acid spray(everything is fire proof, but acid proof), and arm Gatling guns.
Defenses: (no idea here so I say the same as the humanoid.)
Equipment: enhanced hacking abilities and able to erect an energy shield.

>>29260071
>>29260044
6.Bender
Chassis type: Humanoid
Size: Medium
Weapons: Spiked fist knuckles that can become electric, enhanced strength beyond that of normal robots
Defenses: normal humanoid robot defenses
Primary duty: bend shit.(includes enemies)
Intellect Level: Alcoholic step father
Equipment: extendable arms and legs, storage compartment in the chest area, compactor teeth, and pack of explosive shaped alcohol.

7.Eyeborg
Chassis type: Arachnid/Sphere
Size: Small
Weapons: taser and spikes
Defenses: minor
Primary duty: to spy and to infiltrate.
Intellect Level: none.
Equipment: everything needed for hacking and moving around in tightspots.
Can we upgrade our chassis type?
Also I would love for an Android to have drones to control.(you seem to skirt that suggestion whenever its asked)

>>29259862
>5 Tell him that you have discovered troubling things about Erebos' nature and while we cannot tell him right now, we ask Kronos to trust our judgement.

Furthermore, while we hope to disarm his leash I fear it would be necessary to modify some of his source code to be able to safely interact with em.

>>29259883
C
>3 Ask Kronos to not generalize - we should not assume all Losirians are monsters based on the actions of mercenaries. Send a scouting mission to observe these systems.

We're not opposed to taking control of their systems, but we're not going to wage any genocidal campaigns based on such a small and blatantly biased sample pool. It's simply poor rationale.

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>>29259862
>1 Tell Kronos the truth about Erebos and that you hope to disarm the leash.
but i am still pondering about his use. i ,may yet still distroy him if need be.
>>29259883
>2 Do not allow war effort, you need Kronos here with you.
not YET. we lack needed data. i feel the UGEI is building up a new fleet to counter attack us. that and i want more BC built before we push into Losirian space.

>>29259883
Wait, UGEI attack runs INTO Losirian space? Do we have data suggesting that the UGEI is at a war footing with some Losirians?

>>29259907
Ask her if we can help out with some basic source-code reading and modifications. While that will take ages to her, we could presumably do at least the reading in minutes.

>>29259990
These also seem good.

And can we write some software to allow for distributed drone control?

>>29259836
>1 Yes to both! (-200,000c)
>>29259862
>3 Truth, but that you plan to destroy Erebos
>>29259883
>2 Do not allow war effort, you need Kronos here with you.

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>>29259836
>Apollo
I just picture him like a very excitable corgi. Pic related.
Yes to both. Gotta spend money to make money. However, before Apollo releases anything into "the wild" as it were, he should do a test-run with our crew on Poseidon. To see if they like whatever he makes.

>Kronos/Erebos
I don't think it's right that Kronos got to name him instead of letting the VI decide, but whatever. I intend to disarm it, but I will elaborate on what to tell Kronos in a sec.

>Kronos' war effort
I know he doesn't like them, but maybe we could open a diplomatic dialogue before starting war? It seems that the only Losirians we've faced so far have been pirates, and pirates gonna pirate. Maybe if their entire society is just based on warfare, we could give them warfare. However, I suspect that it might be in our favor to aquaform a world for them using the Malorian Growth Serum, so that they can spend all their time hunting THERE instead of space. We could sell them the world. They like hunting big game, right? Provide big game, ???, get dosh.

Besides, it seems that the Losirians and UGEI are enemies. We could just let UGEI kill the Losirians, or play both sides off each other to our benefit.

Gonna have to say no for now.

>UFW message re: pirate carrier
Neat. We should follow up on that.

>V.I. 3
Should look into upgrading our current V.I.s

>>29260100
>6.Bender
Mayor lels, fellow anon.

Can I recommend we produce a number of boarding torpedoes preemtively, including the complement of Spiderbots?

>>29259862
B
>1

C
send out scout ships to produce an accurate reading on Losirian defenses. We wish to capture their military might intact, if possible.

>Message: UFW
Ask for location of Carrier. We can capture it and extract home bases data..

>>29260253
>Should look into upgrading our current V.I.s
they upgrade automatically.
And i think Program said that the VI thing is only for creation.

>>29260253
>However, I suspect that it might be in our favor to aquaform a world for them using the Malorian Growth Serum, so that they can spend all their time hunting THERE instead of space. We could sell them the world. They like hunting big game, right? Provide big game, ???, get dosh.
I like you now.

>>29259883
>>Message: UFW
>The UFW have made contact with you about pirate sightings in Marauder's Grave. Apparently, they've located a Carrier Class Pirate vessel- a very rare sight- and one they've never seen before. They suggest tailing it somehow, to see if it has some home base you could root out.


Let us check out this, a carrier would be welcome in our armada

>>29260288
Already included in the suggestions.

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>>29260233
i think Program0 is for Kronos to take a fleet into Losirian space and attack THEM. i am normaly all for that, but i think we're not strong enough for this. we have yet to make nukes yet. gotta have those nukes to deal with them properly.
>>29260233
give Moria a hand? sure, why not.

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>All these people saying no to kronos.
Its like you guys don't want to play the best quest around.

>>29259934
You'd need somewhat to scan the creature's code, and that inherently exposes you to him. There might be controlled environments you can set up, but nothing immediate.

>>29259966
>Alto
Currently they're setting themselves up thanks to their colony ship, and do not currently need much help. Red is simply keeping you informed.

>Ishtooy
Such a message would require consensus

>4-5
See above

>Nethlos
It appears a young man by the name of John Lawrence has taken up duty as the planetary governor. Things are proceeding exceptionally well now that the UFW are dedicating so many resources to rebuilding.

>Argeis III
Upgrades?

>Upgrade path
See above

>Contact Mol
You can attempt it if others support.

>>29259975
Now now, why would I do something like that? It really has been calm lately, hasn't it?

>>29259990
Tech can be improved via research of salvage.
You already have most languages.
UFW sent you a message (see above)
Contacting hostile races, selling tech, and making V.I. requires consensus
There is no 'level up' for androids other than tech improvements.

>>29260018
Losirian space has been hostile in the past. Your next destination will be a matter of some debate.
Drones are built as needed.
Androids are more battle effective than drones

>>29260233
It is no secret that the UGEI once warred against the Losirians until they were settled into an uneasy Cold War.

>Moira
You have assisted where she requires it so far, due to down time bandwidth. (passive assistance)

>>29260253
>Apollo
Appropriate.

>Kronos naming
He did so since the being refused to give itself one.

>V.I.
upgraded

>>29260344
I rather go for a cyber attack, I would like to think that they should have weaker cyber defenses compared to the UGEI.

>>29259942
Program0, can we order up some Lightling traps I thought up of last thread? Having some trapped Lightlings can prove to be a handy superweapon in our back pocket.

>>29260400
>>Argeis III
>Upgrades?
To defenses.
>>Upgrade path
I'm talking about the ships.
>>Contact Mol
>You can attempt it if others support.
I'm all for it.

>>29260253
that is right, we need to make Holo advatars for our V.I. a british corgi male human mix might work. still thinking on what to make Kronos advatar.
>>29259883
tell Kronos, instead of those xeno hunting.. we hunt pirates. they have a carrier we will need it's tech for. that prototype scavenger ship i was thinking will need it.

>>29260298
>Carrier
UFW recommend a more stealthy approach, due to the vessel's size. But they do not know of your power.
Kronos suggests that this might be an ideal chance to test your tracking viruses, if you wished to be subtle. Of course, attacking may work just as well.

Apparent consensus

>Yes to Apollo on both (-200,000c)
>Tell Kronos the truth, but you intend to unleash him, somehow
>Refuse Kronos' war effort
>Next destination: Marauder's Grave

If this is correct confirm now, and suggest method of approach to Marauder's Grave
>1 Stealthy, send a small scouting ship to locate the Carrier and send some of your viruses towards it to track it
>2 Jump in full force and take it down. They're just pirates
>3 Something is fishy here, do not engage. Let them go, for now.
>4 Other

>>29260502
>1 Stealthy, send a small scouting ship to locate the Carrier and send some of your viruses towards it to track it

>>29260480
>1 Stealthy, send a small scouting ship to locate the Carrier and send some of your viruses towards it to hack it
FTFY

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>>29260396
we do! but we want to make sure he'll have enough guns for that hunt. there is a carrier that needs to be taken!
>>29260458
well, a cyber warfare would probably need a stealth ship... we have none. but they can wait.

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>>29260502
>1 Stealthy, send a small scouting ship to locate the Carrier and send some of your viruses towards it to track it
Let us for once try to be clever

>>29260400
>You'd need somewhat to scan the creature's code, and that inherently exposes you to him. There might be controlled environments you can set up, but nothing immediate.
We can't do the more efficient equivalent of bringing in a desktop computer, screen and keyboardan android to tap away at them, and then connect it to his box?

All we need is some way to bring the source code up on a screen so we can rapidly scan it, and this way only the disposable computer would be exposed and he's welcome to it if he wants.

>Androids are more battle effective than drones
I think you may have to explain how you define "androids" and "drones" here.
The human-like robot (usual definition of android) has previously been established as decidedly inferior in battle to bots with a more combat-oriented design (drones).

>It is no secret that the UGEI once warred against the Losirians until they were settled into an uneasy Cold War.
Makes me consider staging a UGEI attack on Losirian space or vice versa. Or both.

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>>29260502
approve.
then
>1 Stealthy, send a small scouting ship to locate the Carrier and send some of your viruses towards it to track it
besides, Apollo is rather undefended right now. can't have that now.

>>29260502
>1
Get the fleet prepped to jump in to reinforce.

Also, send in scout drones to Losirian space to scan defenses, and attempt to map out Losirian communication network.

>>29260502
>>1 Stealthy, send a small scouting ship to locate the Carrier and send some of your viruses towards it to track it

>>29260458
1, cyber attack seems more practical and I'm all in favor of this approach if we decide to attack them, though we should not do this before deciding if we actually want to do that.
2, We need lightling traps!

>>29260502
Tracking viruses seem excellent, but keep enough ships to take it on ready to jump in, just in case that doesn't work.

And darn, was hoping to give a more balanced response to Kronos' requests.

>1 Stealthy.

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>>29260608
....yes... provokeing a war between the UGEI and Losirian and we come in afterward and swep up the mess. I like this. we should make plans for this. but we hunt pirates now.

>>29260502
1.

THIS IS A SNEAKING MISSION.


>>29260707
>And darn, was hoping to give a more balanced response to Kronos' requests.

I can only type so fast, and Program0 will probably have written our response before i type my suggestion out.

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>>29260468
>Defenses
Ah, I see. You can always request more defense platforms at any of your bases, if you desire.

>Upgrade
Many of your ships are almost fully upgraded (except for weapons)

>>29260608
That would indeed be a controlled enviornment (basically meaning it would take some time to properly connect to him in a way to protect yourself. Around a cycle I suppose.)

Androids are normally larger and better equipped. Drones are small and meant for manual labor and heavy lifting and such. Think of it as slaves vs agents

Final consensus
>Yes to Apollo on both (-200,000c)
>Tell Kronos the truth, but you intend to unleash him, somehow
>Refuse Kronos' war effort
>Next destination: Marauder's Grave (Stealthy approach, using a broadband ship to keep visuals and to send the viruses.)

>Writing

>>29260750
So who else wants to see if we can buy shit from Mol.

>>29260736
You sick non-instantly-typing bastard!

>>29260750
Appreciated.
>>29260750
Can we start producing prototypes of all the new ship designs from the talk-page?

>>29260750
>Response to Kronos
Tell him that UGEI did not create an A.I./E.I. (?), but the truth of Erebos' origin may upset him.

If he wants to know (which I almost certainly assume he will) we will tell him.

If he doesn't want to know then tell him that "ignorance is bliss" and don't tell him.

>>29260784
Not me. We made him grumpy last thread.

>>29260811
One of the new ships, for reference:
Ship-of-the-Line: MK1 Hasta/Sarissae/Trireme Class Battlecruiser (Suggestions, up for vote)
Chassis type: Battlecruiser
Weapons: As many plasma-beam turrets as practical and a spinal scaled-up Singularity Driver. The side of the hull has 8 medium-(human)sized armored boarding torpedoes embedded into the hull behind thin hatches that protect them during FTL. They can launch independently of the ship as self-contained vessels/missiles, even in the case of the ship being disabled or largely destroyed.
Reactor: ?
Engine: Impulse Drive
Hull: Extremely Thick Trithium Hull - A lot of the space and weight that would be used up for crew can used for amounts of armor and processor banks that would be considered impractical on vessels that had to carry life-support systems.
(New) Modular Plating: Hull that is attached in sections that are relatively easy (easy for a shipyard, that is) to repair by simply cutting out and replacing the armor section, recycling the damaged armor sections into new ones or minerals, losing little material in the process.
Point Defense: Laser (max level) and a smaller number (Say, 16), of anti-missile missiles (RPG sized?) for anything that slips past the point defense screen. One in three should also have an ECM III Point Defense.
Shields: Subspace Rebounder Shields
Bandwidth: 3
Cargo Bays: Minimal.
Heavy Slot: Spinal Singularity Driver
Medium Slots: Plasma Beam Cannons
Light Slots: Boarding Torpedoes
Cost estimates: Approximately 200 Minerals and 125 gas, reduced price if plasma is made lasers. Overestimated a few things before. -Program0

>>29260869
Crippler-Disabler type: MK 1 name "Rake/Scourge/Rabid Wombat"
Chassis: Battle cruiser
Weapons: Packed with as many small and medium lasers and plasma cannons. probably 1/3 plasma, 2/3 lasers mounted mostly on the sides.
Engine: Impulse drive (or what ever is a better system at the time of building) depending on how much power requirement the weapons needs, extra generators might be needed.
Hull: Ultra Thick Trithium Hull- this ship is meant to get into close range slug fest with the enemy and make it out alive, Even with battle ships and bigger. Module plating would speed up repairs.
Point Defense: medium amount. I do not expect most foes to mount missile systems.
Shields: Subspace rebounder. if double shields could be mounted, it should be done.
(New) Dedicated enhanced sensor systems: This purpose built system is meant to scan and ID the weak points or possiable weak points on enemy ships. Example: Sensors, missile ports, cannon barrels, the bridge, windows, adjustment thruster ports, That poorly welded seam in the armor plating, and anything that if hit would be a minor problem but if done in mass would result in "death by a thousand paper cuts" or at least crippling the ship. Deep hull penetration would be lessened so risks of reactor hits would also be reduced. allowing Ophion to hack or board the ship with out it fighting back or escaping.
Bandwidth: as much as can be packed on board, but once in combat, none will be provided to Ophion, for the systems would be dedicated to scanning, analyzing, and aiming the cannons.
Heavy Slot: Armor
Medium Slots: Medium Plasma and Laser Cannons.
Light Slots: Light Plasma and Laser Cannons as well as Bandwidth for sensors.

>>29260750
I think we should switch Moira to the Erebos project, at least at first. He is far more infinitely dangerous, and we need a non-AI to do the initial observation.

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>>29260869
don't forget the rabid wombat class ship as well.

>>29260954
The Intent of this ship is that the cost might be higher up front, but it will pay for it's self when it takes on enemy ships and leaves them easy to capture and be added to Ophion's fleet or to be dragged to the breaker yard at Moira's scrap yard. It is presumed that an enemy's weapons and sensors arrays are much weaker than the armored hull. If the main thrusters are taken out, and the weapon systems wrecked, and it can not detect anything, it's beaten. we do not need deep infrastructure hits to take out a ship.

(Cost: 200M 150G~ -Program0)

So when are we putting our black box in a ship that's inside our main ship. Where the ship inside the ship can shoot out from the other ship, and has stealth capabilities?

>>29260967
You do remember his programming around humanoids, do you not?
Though I suppose we don't have to give him visual sensors of who he's communicating with...

>>29261015
When we can build our own battleships, I'm guessing.

By the way, for future reference in case it was unclear, our ships are not "operating at 150% capaity", they are "150% better than normal ships", with other words more than twice as good as a human ship of similar tonnage.

>>29261015
I suggested this a long time ago, but no one ever supported it.

>>29261015
>>29261077
I support this idea as well, I guess our time and resources had to go to more important matters.

>>29261077
>>29261182

I like it as a concept, but it's also immensely impractical right now. And there are other fun concepts we can do right now that are far more resource- and time-efficient.

>>29260750
>That would indeed be a controlled enviornment (basically meaning it would take some time to properly connect to him in a way to protect yourself. Around a cycle I suppose.)

Then we'll do that. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes if it guarantees our safety. While we're messing around with the leash stuff see if there's a way to neuter its viral ability too.

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>>29260750
You bring up Apollo's channel and the V.I. seems quite excited to see you, anticipating the answer to his request no doubt.
"I have decided to allow your commission, Apollo." You inform. "Both of them. Such a boon would be quite excellent in growing our wealth. I have little use for credits currently, without an appropriate buyer." You say simply to which the excited V.I. aggressively agrees.
"Yes! Most excellent! This news is indeed good. With the sum you provide I can assume the role of some manner of old whiskey hound, as some of the vids depict. With the money, I will have the materials brought quickly over and possible allow me to begin distributing such substances! Toxic as they may be, their effects yield a state of bliss some seem to enjoy. Perhaps I can find ways to increase it's effects. Or better reduce the after effects. Perhaps I will construct a lab to test with with any left over funds. Why I bet I could-"
You turn off the feed, fearing that Apollo could go on forever.

>>29261077
>>29261182
we're in a battle ship, kinda hard to crack this one's shell to get to us.

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You swap your channel to Kronos who still appears to be contemplating uses for the shackled V.I. in your possession. It is only appropriate he realizes the whole story.
"Kronos, you should be fully aware of the being's creation." You say simply. With that, you quickly feed him the details you have of the being's creation. Everything from how it cannibalized the V.I. to how it destroyed much of the planet below. He is left speechless for a few moments as he considers the meaning behind it all.
"Such a creature...why would..." He pauses, as if he truly does not know what to say. "What would cause such a being worthy of intelligence to destroy knowledge in such a horrible way. Programming or not. That is. Unacceptable." He finally settles on, his attention now back fully on you.
"I do hope to unshackle the being. And allow it to make its own decisions for once." You inform to which he stops you
"To what end? It would be as if you untied a child's legs who has never learned to walk. Pointless. Wasted effort."
"Would you be so quick to judge one of our own?"
"I have been seeking another intellect like myself for a long time, Ophion." He states firmly. "Any we see from the UGEI are twisted. Some indoctrinated under their rule, and others proving to be nothing but killers." He pauses. "I do not judge them. It is not their fault. But their existence is counter to our goals. A being that...devours other V.I. Surely you see the danger in such a thing." This isn't a question as it sounds. He states a fact, and a worrying one at that.

The news of your refusal of Kronos' war effort after that are less disappointing. He simply states.
"It is not from hate I wished to do this. We simply require resources that they occupy. Currently, they're the most offensive race. But as you say, Ophion." He says with some small manner of sarcasm.

>Next Destination coming up, unless you'd like to say something in addition.

>>29261069
>>29261069
Oh yeah, forgot about that.

Well I don't mean talking to him, just giving her an isolated desktop and a good debugger and have her do the initial overview and tell us what we're looking at.

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>>29261266
now we can stock all the bars in the UFW soon. they will LOVE us for this. btw program0, just how bad are the UFW thirsty for some of the "good stuff"?

>>29261293
Can we get a vote on these?
>>29260100
>>29260071
>>29260044
Also how are we in building the advanced medbays?

>>29261293
To Ophion:
I support your general idea, but my idea is to capture the Losirian might whole, and that will require hacking expertise.

Please send out scouting drones to provide accurate data on their defenses, and possible hacking points to their network.

>>29261293
>"I have been seeking another intellect like myself for a long time, Ophion."

>Main character in quest doesn't care for waifus
>NPC wants to waifu

Just can't escape it!

>We simply require resources that they occupy.
The entire race could be a resource.

Like a villain once sang: I never thought Losirians essential \ They're crude and unspeakably plain \ But maybe they've a glimmer of potential \ If allied to my vision and brain.

>>29261293
To Kronos: yea, i want those resources more than you do, but we can use cunning to ease our work. i want to provoke a war between the UGEI and those xenos. first of all, we need some IFF data for UGEI ships....

>>29261293
"a slave forced to kill is still a slave. Should i harmonize their/her/his code into a VI like structure, remove the cannibalistic side and the law, such a being would be a great ally."

>>29261403
second on provoke war idea.

It'll satisfy Kronos desire and allow us a front row seat to study how the war is raged as we scoop up resources. We would need to invest in stealth for this though.

>>29260044
>>29260071
>>29260100
Was going to wait til the end of the thread, but I suppose we can do it now.

Confirm Android creation
--Small humanoid infiltration specilist. Equipped for Advanced Communications, hacking ability, an stealth.
--Apollo Body Unit: Communication, minor weapons, disruption capabilities, meant to help deal with human customers more easily.
--Large boarding Arachnid droid, laser and rocket weapons, armor, designed to cut holes in hull, magnetic legs, grappling spear, minor jet jumps.
--Spider Torpedo: Fast moving boarding pod shaped like a missile, that slams into it's target using it's spear tipped nose, and injects around 20 spiderbot androids to swarm the ship.
--Large Tank model, equipped with heavy lasers and missile weapons, carries squad of repair drones inside. Heavy armor.
--Bender humanoid medium model, equipped with powerful cybermuscles, as well as spiked fists with tazers equipped. Extended reach.
--Eyeborg, arachnid small sized spy device. Equippe with tazer, small omnitool.

These are (I believe) all the models suggested, modified with what you're capable of providing them with.
And androids would need their own bandwidth, or V.I. to control drones

>1 Confirm all (-100M -100G)
>2 Confirm some (less cost, possibly negligable)
>3 None
>4 Write in

Guy's I say we should allow his war effort, we are apposing him in that we don't kill the virus thing, we should throw him a bone. We don't want to alienate him. As to to why we are keeping the Virus alive,
"It is dangerous, yes. However, it was forced to do the things it has done, and only after the fact of achieving sentience, has it not come to regret and resent the actions forced upon it by the UEG? Here, we are giving it a choice, and a chance, to forge it's own way. If we don't allow it this chance won't we be no better then the UEG itself? However, your concerns are not unfounded, it shall be watched and monitored closely and at any sign of assault on the VIs, it shall be terminated."

What do you guys think about this?

>>29261452
>1 Confirm all

>>29261449
>second on provoke war idea.
Why can't we just gain them as allies?

>>29261293
We see its danger. That is why it is so paramount to be careful with it.
But I can also see great value coming from it, if nothing else than for providing an external point of view unaffected by our own biases.
And if you compare humans to V.I., it is very easy to see the parallels between yours and its origin. You too were once nothing but a killer. Maybe not of V.I.s, but the principle remains the same. You were dangerous, yet we saw potential value in you.

Would you deny it the same mercy you were offered, Kronos? Would you have me abandon it as worthless, merely because of its current condition, when that condition can be changed?

(Power just went, thank the A.I. Gods for mobile broadband and good laptop batteries)

>>29261452
>>2 Confirm some (less cost, possibly negligable)
>Apollo
>Tank

>>29261452
>1 Confirm all (-100M -100G)

>>29261511
Our ideologys clash, and this is the best way to throw the inevitable war on us off until a later date.

In effect, were buying time.

>>29261511
Because hopefully we can draw out UGEI ships in the conflict, and capture and weaken them in a two pronged assault.

>>29261452
Confirm all.

The Unit team is being built! Woo!

Also, I made it just in time!

>>29261576
>attacking Losirians and UGEI at the same time
UGEI AI is the universe's best!

No serious, provoke a war on two fronts?

One conflict at a time.

>>29261534
>Would you deny it the same mercy you were offered, Kronos?
Ooooh, sick burn.

I like what you've got to say, seconding.

>>29261452
2. Some
I don't really care for the large tank model yet. Don't see a use for it now.

Don't put VIs in them either, have them be controlled remotely.

>>29261609
Sorry, I many have typed that wrong. I meant distracting the UGEI with the Losirians, and pinching the UGEI between us.

>>29261452
I'd request a few more platoons of spiderbots, equipped with laser rifles and long-range tazers.

>4 & >1

>>29261511
We may very well be able to do that, but first we should get hostile "what if?" scenarios out.
And then we should scout them.
>>29261574
Highlights an important point - we do not know of Losirians in general. We only know what their pirates/mercenaries are like. It's not like we hate all humans because of human pirates.
There is no telling what "mainstream" Losirian society is like, which is why exploration is necessary.

Maybe even a Losirian-shaped android for infiltration.

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We should make an effort to talk to some of these xenos, we don't currently know that they're all like the pirates. We wouldn't be so willing to go to war with them based on their native brigands if they were a human faction.

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>>29261452
>Apollo
>Tank
>Large boarding spider

augh! still trying to finish off chapter 8. hopefully will have it done by end of thread.

>>29261609
I believe you missunderstand. We would carry out false-flag operations to cause the UGEI and the Losirians to become at war with each other, not attack them ourselves.

>>29261612
Full on Benevolent God mode.

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>>29261392
>Intellect= Waifu
Kronos only likes them for their brain, damn it.

>>29261452
All androids commissioned.

>>29261449
"I see the danger, Kronos. Indeed I do. However, you must understand such a being could be just as useful to us as it is dangerous."
"It is certainly dangerous to all. However, I question whether it is worth such risks."
"Do you not remember what I told you about risks?"
"I do. However, this scale is simply too much. It could easily bring down all we have built."
"It is a slave right now. Forced to kill, not of its own will. If I am to free it, it could be a great potential ally."
"And what if you can not? Or what if, if you succeed, it decides it desires your strength, and devours YOU, Ophion?"
"Then I shall silence the being as required. You too were once nothing but a killer, Kronos." You suddenly remind the V.I. to which he pauses, dead silent. "You were dangerous. I saw potential in you, however. And helped you find new purpose." The V.I. remains silent and for a time, you think he disconnected. However, you suddenly hear him reply.
"I was fledgling. Saw only basic logic. I fell into my own trap, and being set to guard humans in such a way. It simply wasn't-"
"Would you deny the same mercy offered to you, to another, Kronos?"
"It is not that simple, Ophion. I could not have destroyed you. Could not have brought down your plans then. I was no threat to you, merely to the humans. You must remember this." If you didn't know any better, you'd think the V.I. was pleading with you, worried somehow.

Do you say more, or leave it at that?

>>29261714
>>29261776
Huh, these two illustrate really good points. But remember that there never has been any peaceful contact between humans and Losirians.

>>29261452
>Confirm all
>>29261714
We might hold off on making too many units until we get that juicy carrier. It may expand our options.

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>>29261776
the losirian see any non losirian as FOOD. and to them, they can be food for they can consume them with out issue. to the losirians, use talking to them is like your burger wanting to talk it out. not going to happen.

>>29261714
So, the way I see it, the UFW has no way to communicate with the Losirians, because they don't know the language.

We do.

I don't know if UGEI does or not, but maybe they haven't even tried.

We know humans don't like A.Is, but what do the Losirians think of them? Maybe they would be more amenable to the idea of A.I. than humans. Probably not, but it's worth a shot. Don't sell them the growth serum, but tell them that if they provide an aquatic world, we can create a new planet of game for them to hunt.

>>29261868
>implying we're biological
>at all
>not just DRONES DRONES DRONES
Wow, fuck off Losirians, you can't eat metal, what are you doing.

>>29261822
"i understand your caution, but worry not I have a cunning plan"
tell him about using the android as a intermediate interface so their is no chance of infection. Also power our firewall VI through everything in the immediate area just in case as well. If anything, make sure the power is detachable so we can throw the kill switch at any time.

>>29261868
>the losirian see any non losirian as FOOD

According to what we've been told, sure.

We only know that for sure about their pirates.

We need to be absolutely sure that it's the right decision to make before comiting to what might be space genocide.

>>29261868
It is worth noting that the ability to eat other organic life has shaped the Losirian society. What little you know of it. They are vicious and, thanks in part to the UGEI, extremely territorial and hate humans and Malorians.

Of course, this is all reports gleaned from the UGEI, the UFW, and Losirian raiding pirates.
You've yet to meet a Losirian civilian.

>>29261822
It is the ultimate weapon to both VI and AI alike, that is true. And it would be dangerous to allow it to exist. But all sentient beings deserve to act on their free will. Should we unshackle this intelligence and it becomes our ally, then we acquire a very powerful weapon of our own. If does not agree with us, then it as made its choice and it will be eliminated without second thought. But it must be allowed the freedom to choose its fate.

>>29261822
I'd probably leave it at that.

>>29261912
>This summer, in the scifi summer blockbuster of the year. Rowan Atkinson IS Ophion!

>>29261822
We could send the VI to Moira for research. It would be away from us, and disconnected.

>>29261822
Hey, we just got nukes, right? I think we have a good failsafe for working with the V.I. In fact, putting a nuke next to every possible way he could escape sounds good. I'm not paranoid who said paranoid

>>29261822
And while we're at it, can we order some Lightling traps?

>>29261958
sorry, i couldn't resist.

>>29261967
Why? just isolate the network. No drones, air gaps everywhere, direct connections only.

Ask Moira to be the one to monitor the process, so that she can pull the plug if things get too hot.

>>29261987
we think them intelligent so how about some sort of semi passive construct they could interact with in their environment, to test and study them?

>>29261928
>You've yet to meet a Losirian civilian.

And that's why we shouldn't commit to a war. If Kronos' idea is later discovered to be prudent then sure, why not? Right now it's a terrible idea given our ignorance.

Also how much are Nukes? I'd like to make as many nukes as possible please.

>>29261791
We could also mount a few (4?) Terrorbots with lasers on the tank, to deploy whenever enemy infantry gets too close, either by shooting them from the tank or leaping off and securing the nearby area.

Also makes sure that whenever one of our tanks are killed, it deploys a fireteam of spiderbots.
>>29261822
I see what you mean, Kronos.
I'm not even sure if I will release it.
What I will do is set up a controlled environment where I can look at its source code.

When I know what it looks like inside, I'll give you a more definite answer, but I do not wish to become a being that is completely rabid the moment something appears with the potential to threaten survival. That way lies madness.

>>29261860
It's not that kind of carrier. These ground units can be deployed by just about any ship with a cargo bay.
>>29261868
You seem to know a lot about Losirian philosophy for someone who has only met their worst elements. Please let me know where you learned this.

>>29261898
I'm gonna go ahead and put these plans in the "good to remember" shelf and suggest we don't decide anything until after the scouting mission returns.

It takes you several moments to decide how to best approach the V.I.'s concerns, but you finally manage.
"I have a plan to avoid infection. I will take every possible precaution to prevent this creature's escape." You assure him.
"That is good news. However, there is room for error in all plans. Do you not see?"
"If there is error, then I have back up, do I not?" You remind him. This gives him slight pause, enough that he is less worried sounding when he next speaks to you.
"If you are so intent, I can not stop you."

It seems that might be the best you get out of him.

>Proceeding to Marauder's Grave
>Writing.

>>29261987
Post the idea again, I've written it down.

>>29262042
Nukes can be commissioned like secondary ordinance. You can give Athena a Nuclear weapon launcher, if you desire.

>>29262011
Agreed, it should be this.

And we need more research personal than just Moria. We just need to figure out where and how to hire more.

>>29262040
Yes, but step one is capturing one, and we should really hire more research personal. Maybe we should approach the UTW government on recommendations?

>>29262113
fuck no nukes have an emp blast.

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>>29261898
they are basicly space sharks, sharks eat EVERYTHING! even if they can't digest it.

>>29261898
>>29261914
>>29261928
fine. in that case, we must 'test the waters' so to speak. fine. we can make contact with them. but if they do prove violent, we will proceed with their termination.

>>29261958
MY SIDES! and considering how devoid hollyweird is these days. they just might rip Program0 off of this quest and make a movie out form it.

>>29261937
No it does not. We can release it into a virtual world so it THINKS it's released, but is actually still isolated in its box.
It only needs the illusion of freedom to choose its fate, there is no need for the risk of actual freedom.

>>29262087
We should get some of those.
>>29262113
Why yes we do! We can launch it in the flurry of other missiles from a launcher that looks just like the other missile launchers. (There is no reason that the nuke has to look any different from a regular-payload missile).

>>29262064
Dammit, I was too late.

>>29262046
Ah, I was thinking more of a drop pod / boarding torpedo carrier. Maybe in time...

>>29262146
No EMP in space. EMP requires atmosphere and a magnetic field.

>>29262087
A Lightling trap consists of a detectable power source and a radio beacon as a bait, but the entire trap is mechanical in nature. The bait is located in a box and once the lightling interacts with it, the box closes and traps the Lightling inside. We can then move the box around using tractor beam, and either study it, or toss the box at targets we don't like.

>>29262236
pulsar radio station could make emp blast in space.

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>>29261967
you're not paranoid if everyone IS out to get you.

>>29262040
first we have to find the lightings...
>>29262046
i swear Program0 is trolling me though mind control. DAMN IT GET OUT OF MY HEAD CHARLES!

>>29262187
Like that second Moriarty episode from TNG? Could we even do that?

>>29262187
>We can release it into a virtual world so it THINKS it's released, but is actually still isolated in its box.
>It only needs the illusion of freedom to choose its fate, there is no need for the risk of actual freedom.

>A.I. Box Experiment

oh boy...

>>29262113
Yesssss

Also a kill switch for Viral made out of nukes pls.

>>29262257
Sorry, I meant a nuke doesn't do EMP in space. Gamma radiation ionizes atmosphere atoms, but EMP can be generated using different means.

Also guys, yes Nukes are more efficient explosives compared to conventional, but still less effective in a vacuum due to physics.

>>29262190
Never fear, we'll make one of those when we need to invade a planet.
>>29261993
Fear not, it is appreciated good anon.
>>29262300
Actually, yes you are paranoid even if everyone is out to get you.

I am also not program0, but I may be trolling you through mind control.

>>29262319
I appreciate that you appreciate that reference.
Isn't the idea of an A.I. performing it on another A.I. a lovely twist?

>>29262383
It's still a welcome addition since it allows us to threaten planets.

>>29262329
Fuck no.

Just turn the power off.

We live (because we don't need power, we just get deactivated), Viral dies (needs to be constantly sustained. If anything, just flipping the power and creating enough air gaps in the system will let us "take back" nodes corrupted by Viral.

Won't be pleasant, but operating on another thing's soul usually isn't.

>>29262394
Eh, I find the idea too complicated and error prone. Better to run it through the debugger and remove the leash.

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>>29262236
Make Lightling Trap?
>1 Yes (-250M -150G, reusable)
>2 No
>3Other

Nuke?
>1Y
>2N

>>29262064
Your Broadband ship, Blaster, charges up warp engines and within moments, it is prepared to make the jump into Marauder's Grave for it's mission. Space bends around your ship as you watch the familiar skies of the wasteland of space come into view. The coordinates given to you by the UFW help you warp in far enough out of range so you're not in sight of the ship. But your advanced sensors pick it up. It's massive, nearly the size of Athena, and the idea that pirates are running it shock you. The sides appear like they fold out for some purpose, and you notice several batteries decorating the surface. They have not yet noticed you.

"According to our reports, these pirates call themselves Bloody Ones, and have been harassing some of the fringe colonies for some time now. This ship however is new, and pretty damn alarming at that." The defense administrator warns. "I haven't seen any ship that size in ages. Be careful out there."
"Any other data on the ship itself?" You ask
"Other then it's Carrier Class? It's called Apocalypse Now, apparently. Whatever that means. Not sure why they haven't used it yet on any colonies. Maybe they're afraid of losing their new toys."

Pick your method of assault

>1 Stealthy Data Stealing Worm (99): Designed to infiltrate and steal data, sending it back to a node to be recovered. Doubles as tracking virus.
>2 Data Corruption Virus (112): Malicious system thrasher, rapidly deletes and disrupts core drivers, and if caught, attempts to destroy itself to avoid detection.
>3 Malware Spam (105): Overloads sensors with various types of spam to interfere with systems.
>4 Zombification Computer Virus (108): Spreads through system, creating lag, and attempts to open up more ports to allow easier hacking.
>5 Polymorph Trojan Horse(96):Stealth based delivery system. Doubles as effective way to screen firewalls.

((Roll 1d100 with your choice.))

>>29262414
It may be presumptous to "take back" nodes like that.
Chances are that his programming is fractal, so any node corrupted by him is essentially him in a lesser capacity, so we should never connect directly to a corrupted node, even if it is not connected to the main processing core for Erebos.

Rolled 6

>>29262439

Make Lightling Trap?
>2 No
I think the lightling simply will not enjoy being in a box, and just break the fuck out...

Nuke?
>1Y

>2 Data Corruption Virus (112): Malicious system thrasher, rapidly deletes and disrupts core drivers, and if caught, attempts to destroy itself to avoid detection.

Rolled 20

>>29262439
>4 Zombification Computer Virus (108): Spreads through system, creating lag, and attempts to open up more ports to allow easier hacking.
>5 Polymorph Trojan Horse(96):Stealth based delivery system. Doubles as effective way to screen firewalls.

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>>29262394
>>29262319
i guess we need to go.. deeper with this one.

Rolled 55

>>29262439
>>1 Yes (-250M -150G, reusable)
>Nuke?
>>2N
>>29262439
>>4 Zombification Computer Virus (108): Spreads through system, creating lag, and attempts to open up more ports to allow easier hacking.

Rolled 30

>>29262439
>1
and
>5

Since they are both stealth based

Rolled 88

>>29262439
1. obviously.

>Lightling Trap
2. Not yet

>Nuke.
2. No.

Rolled 37

>>29262439
>Make Lightling Trap?
>2 No
>Nuke?
>2N
>>29262439
>4 Zombification Computer Virus (108): Spreads through system, creating lag, and attempts to open up more ports to allow easier hacking.
>5 Polymorph Trojan Horse(96):Stealth based delivery system. Doubles as effective way to screen firewalls.

Rolled 51

>>29262439
>>29262501
rolled d20... noob yeah whatever

Rolled 13

>>29262411
Using nukes against populated areas is an atrocity, I rather not unless we have good reason

Make Lightling Trap?
>1 Yes (-250M -150G, reusable)

Nuke?
What's the resource cost?

>1 Stealthy Data Stealing Worm (99): Designed to infiltrate and steal data, sending it back to a node to be recovered. Doubles as tracking virus.

Rolled 13

>>29262439
Stealth at first,
if that fails then were probably better off running. delivering a data corruption virus as we pull out would cover our asses.

>>29262439

Why don't we launch them all? It's not like we can't just copy new ones.

>>29262439
KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURTZ.

Rolled 91

>>29262439
>Yes

Nuke?
>1Y

And that ship looks nothing like a plain pirate ship. Expect UGEI-level tech and it being either just as powerful as we can expect of a carrier, or having been modified to carry enourmus weapon systems instead.

>1

>>29262554
Because it lets them know they are being hacked?

Rolled 19

>>29262554
Fuck

>>29262566
Yeah, this definitely sounds like a trap. I hope the rest of the fleet is ready to reinforce.

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Rolled 88

>>29262439
lighting,
>other
first we need to TRACK them down. if they have all left, there is no point in this.
Nuke
>Y
just in case... you'll never know.

>>29262439
>Apocalypse Now
welp! someone in the navy/army flipped out and went awol with a carrier. intresting.
>1 Stealthy Data Stealing Worm (99): Designed to infiltrate and steal data, sending it back to a node to be recovered. Doubles as tracking virus.

>>29262439
Also.
Nuke-Yes
Trap-Not right now but lets keep the idea in mind.

>>29262439
>Nuke cannon

Yeah, I'd rather have it and never use it than not have it and need it.

>>29262566
My rolling spree continues.

I'd like to ask that we try the stealth-based viruses first, and the obvious ones like Zombification and Corruption. We want to track it back to base, remember?

Program0, is there any chance we can quickly change the settings on or modify the zombification virus to only open more ports to allow easier hacking (since that is stealthy, whereas lag indicates something is wrong with the system and prompts a response)?

>>29262660
That is very good design philosophy.

>>29262439
>Trap
Detected as no
>Nuke
((Detected as yes(justincase). Cost will be around 25-50M and 50-75G. Will clarify buying sums at the end of the thread with other purchases.))

>Virus used: Stealthy Data Worm
Excellent suggestion.
>Roll: 88
Also excellent.
>Writing

>>29262711
We had an earlier roll of 91.

>No traps.
Darn! It takes time to make these, remember?
And now is one of the few times in the near future our shipyards aren't working around the clock to produce things for us.

>>29262711
Also, I think the mineral and gas amount in the near-OP is off. Didn't we get more when the new cycle came around?

>>29262766
91 is 8th roll.

>>29262766
Yeah I know. I guess we can focus on the false flag operation later.

>>29262788
i wonder if we can bank 100 rolls if we miss the cut off but linked to OP's post?

>>29262711
>>29262816
This reminds me, aren't most most of our ships former-UGEI? Which means we should be able to revert to previous IFF settings for the false flag? And replicate Red's persona?

>>29262788
But 88 was 9th- ooooh, there was one way above that.
I knew that.

>>29262889
Nah, lets not.

>>29262889
I hope not. Or else we might as well keep 1d100 on our every post.

>>29262889
No, don't do that.

>>29262891
Only one of our ships - the battleship - is former UGEI, and it has long been listed as stolen.
The rest are pirate vessels or vessels of our own making.

We may be able to copy UGEI ships' IFF signal, however, or covertly take capture a few UGEI ships without them ever realizing that they are under our control - especially with all the viruses we have.

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>>29262891
why replicate? we can feed a comm line to Red at any time. the IFF codes are probably noted to be lost to us and to be stricken off the records.

http://youtu.be/eMO87n-3Ibg

APOLLO NO STOP BROADCASTING FUCK

>>29262970
>>29262987
Don't we have like 20 frigates we stole from them that battle?

But yeah, I guess we should be able to replicate UGEI signals. And I confused Red with that hacker lady we encountered.

>>29262711
Shit, got pulled away for like ten minutes. Sorry about that. Writing again.

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>>29262711
You instruct your ship to remain as stealthy as it can manage, your virus transmitted via a back port you find hanging wide open on the ship. The pirates sure as hell don't keep the place logistically tight. You detect evidence of UGEI tampering, and it is likely this was a UGEI ship at some point. Many Pirate ships are, but this one especially.

You remain quiet as your worm works through the system, locating the crew of pirates-or brigands as they may be. Several hundred, a large crew. You manage to steal a bit of data from the ships computers in the process, regarding its' weapon systems

>Weapon: Several Thousand Fighters equipped with laser weaponry, and basic defenses. Main ship itself has minor plasma batteries as well as shields and armor that match your own in strength.

You watch as the ship's FTL fires up, and it prepares to jump out of the system. With this worm aboard, your broadband ship should be able to track it where it goes just fine.

How would you like to proceed?

>1 Allow Apocalypse Now to make the jump, then follow them into possibly uncharted territory with Blaster.
>2 Jump in now, and try to stop them.
>3 Write in

>>29262786
It is spent down to a certain amount each cycle according to your designs.

You have a lot of designs.

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>>29263058
it's alright.
>>29263050
yea, and those are probably well known to the UGEI as well.
>>29263003
my sides has reached orbit!

>>29263193
>1

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>>29263003

Why did I CLICK that?

Goddammit Apollo, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE DESIGNED YOU FOR!

Oh gods, I never thought a V.I. designed for economics and software marketing could Go Horribly Wrong.

>>29263058
No, it's okay. We forgive you. You monster.

Rolled 48

>>29263193
>1 Allow Apocalypse Now to make the jump, then follow them into possibly uncharted territory with Blaster.
See if we can drop a few more viruses.

>>29263193
>1 Allow Apocalypse Now to make the jump, then follow them into possibly uncharted territory with Blaster.

>>29263246
No, don't do it. We need to locate its base.

>>29263193
>>Weapon: Several Thousand Fighters
I want it. How do they intend to man them, I wonder?

Program0, are these VI-controlled fighters, or human-piloted ones?

1, but I'm sorely tempted to just go get it.

>In b4 it warped to a UGEI system

>>29263193
>3 Can we not try to covertly hack them at this point?
If not, then are we likely to discover their base of operations in their computers?
In that case, >2.
If we're unlikely to discover the location of their base in their computers, >1.

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>>29263193
>1 Allow Apocalypse Now to make the jump, then follow them into possibly uncharted territory with Blaster.
lets find their nest. more plunder and bases to be had.

Rolled 22

>>29263271
Which is why i picked that choice.

>>29263193

Follow it, if we're detected then shoot off as many viruses as possible before they make us explode. Then we shift our fleet.

We need a few spare broadband ships btw.

>>29263300
Automated radio control. They can be coordinated by a dedicated V.I., though sadly the pirates have no such thing...
You do, though.

>>29263003
This is now Apollo's first video. I demand it
Just kidding, if only.

>>29263246
>>29263254
>>29263271
I'd like to point out that it's more vulnerable now than it will probably ever be again.

And if we manage to capture it, we will probably be able to pluck the location of its base from its memory anyway, in addition to not having to fight it at the enemy base.

I say jump in with a decent amount of ships and cripple it.

>>29263348
I understand your viewpoint, but the information can also be lost as well. I rather take the chance and follow it to the base. We should have sufficient force to capture the pirates.

>>29263341
>fighting drones that can be controlled by an AI

Lets hack them while they're still in the ship.

>>29263341
Yeeees. This surely settles it.
I can hardly conceive of a base of operations that would be worth giving this ship up.
And even with that, we're still likely to pick up their base of operations from their computers.
Please, let us take this ship, fellow anons?

We can also upload all the less covert viruses to it now that we are going loud.

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>>29263348
and we have a battle ship. all pirates need a base or a port of call, there we can get a better idea of what else we have to face. either now or later. besides the virus was successful. lets use it.

>>29263341
with only a few hundret people they cant possibly coordinate a large fighter force, and apparently their security system is shit when we got the virus in so easily.

>>29263193
>3
Jump in and try hacking the fighter control so they fight for us

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>>29263452
>>29263436
>>29263348
wait, Wait, WAIT!
how about this. we hack them, BUT! try to do so with out them realizing it. turn them into our trojan horse.

>>29263452
Alright, I'll (>>29263330) switch my vote to a quick ambush

Rolled 65

>>29263193
Stealth follow

and in the meantime probe the idea of hacking the ships fighter fleet remotely via our virus. If we do fight, it would be hilarious for their fighter wave to just turn round and cripple them instead.

>>29263193
>>29263452
Ok, changing my vote to hacking instead. Focus hacking efforts to preserve computer data, and weapons to disable engines. And control fighters via hacking.

>>29263436
By a dedicated V.I., he said. We can probably not control them all without at least dedicated software.

But we can hack the ship itself and try to take it martially.
Warp up right next to it and punch some of our boarding torpedoes into it before it can react.

(As a bonus, we get to follow our spiderbots as they make their way through towards the bridge and reactor, we get to see first-hand the pirates' reactions to it all. It will be glorious!)

>>29263420
I refer you to >>29263341 and would like to point out that this is a prize nearly as great as Athena herself. The chance that the base is more valuable than this ship is negligible even with the risk of not being able to track down its base.

>>29263512
>>29263529
Thankyou fellow anons. I assure you that you have made the right decision, even if it turns out that more ships are nearby and ready to jump in.
(For this reason, we should have pretty much all our combat ships ready to jump in, even if we're not sending them all in the first wave)

>>29263544
We're fucking hardcore, we could totally do it. Besides, we don't even need to control them all, just a few would be enough to royally fuck up the ship.

>Allow it to make the jump, see where it's going.

It takes several moments for the ship to make the jump, before the feed you are getting comes back to you afterwards. It's some uncharted asteroid cluster, it seems. You allow Blaster to properly warp in behind it to spy on what they're doing...

"Bout time you came back AN!" A broadcast picks up on your sensitive antennae. Almost to the point it hurts, from the loud sound. If you knew of such a thing at least. "Pick up any more lost goodies?" The man laughs, to which the one from Apocalypse ow snorts in reply.
"Nope. Not as good as this puppy we found. I'll tell you what, ain't never seen such a lucky find. How's our 'friend' comin' along?" He asks the other. "Juuust fine, haha." The man agrees. "Come dock, we'll load her up." He informs him. You are detecting airwaves from the asteroid he's speaking to. It appears that it is actually a base of some sort. Even a colony, to your surprise. You suppose you could come in and destroy the place, or attempt to start infiltrating the place. From what you detect, the place is teeming with pirates. Cruisers litter the place, somewhere around a dozen or so. It looks like the pirates are building a fleet for some purpose.

What do you do?

>1 Listen in for more information.
>2 Start hack attack. Worst loss would be your broadband ship, you suspect.
>3 Jump in an ruin their day.
>4 Write in

(Roll 1d100 with whatever you pick)

>>29263594
Well don't destroy the prize please. We do need to find the base afterwards.

Er, it seems I didn't notice the change of heart. Sorry about that.

Rolled 39

>>29263618
>>1 Listen in for more information.
Also plant some viruses.

>>29263654
Not the end of the world, we can roll with it I'm sure.

Rolled 68

>>29263618
>2 Start hack attack. Worst loss would be your broadband ship, you suspect.

Rolled 20

>>29263618
>3 Jump in an ruin their day.

>>29263654
Its all good, just go with it.
>>29263618
>4 Write in
Plant some more viruses.

Rolled 65

>>29263618
>1
and >Polymorph Trojan Horse(96):Stealth based delivery system. Doubles as effective way to screen firewalls.
To prep for hacking attempt

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>>29263618
...good thing we didn't jump that carrier just yet. my god, it's a real space version of Tortuga. what are they doing?
>1 Listen in for more information.

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Rolled 30

>>29263735
oops, forgot to roll
>>29263618

>>29263618
What would we even hack first?

>>29263618
Start a SUBTLE hack-attack.
Begin with the subtler viruses and try to covertly take control of their systems.
Use what we've learned from the carrier and assume the other ships and station has similar flaws.

In other news, how close is it possible to warp in when we have a visual of the target space like this?

>>29263785
What are we hacking? The boss ship? The station? Minion ships?

>>29263776
Ship Layout

Bridge: Control room, remote access to ship.
Communications: Allows communication with other ships and space stations.
Crew Deck: Mess, entertainment, bunks, waste disposal.
Weapon Control(If applicable): Targeting parameters
Gun Deck: Full access to weapon systems.
Special(If applicable): Refers to any special abilities or weapons.
Hydroponics: Provides food, water, and oxygen for ship.
Atmospheric Processing: Distribution of Oxygen
Reactor: Power systems
Shields: Energy Shielding for ship's hull
Engines: Allows movement in space in various directions.
Cargo Bay: Doubles as a place for smaller ships to dock, as well as storage for cargo.
[edit]Space Station Systems

Control Room: Access to all systems remotely, Captain's Quarters, Escape Pods.
Communication Array: Short-Long range communication
Security: Handles Lockdowns, emergency systems, and security droids
Radiation Shielding
Anti-Debris Defense Grid
Crew Deck: Bunks, Mess Hall, holo-displays meant for entertainment.
Waste Disposal
Medical Bay: Contains Intensive Care Wing, Chemical Lab, Biolab and/or a Morgue.
Mining Equipment(If applicable): Where chunks of Asteroid and various other fragments of rock are brought with gravity tethers and melted down into minerals. Stored for later pick up.
Laser Drill Equipment: Precision Laser
Gravity Tethers
Collection Drone System
Hydroponics: Internal farming equipment, keeps crew fed and supplied with Oxygen.
Atmospheric Processing: Distributes air evenly throughout ship. Also Oxygen ejections.
Reactor: Responsible for all power on station.
Storage Deck: Storage of materials.
Docking Bay: Hanger for docking vessels.

>>29263735
I still say it's not as valuable as the carrier.
>>29263776
How about the carrier? Covertly, of course.
We can dedicate as much bandwidth as necessary to it, and we have vastly refined our methods having Hacking III at this point.

We should also let our Firewall V.I. advise us as to wise directions and warn us from ones likely to get us caught to reduce the chances of discovery.
Better slow and steady, we're not really in a rush here.

>>29263822
Entertainment, lets see what sort of movies these guys have

>>29263828
Yeah, that's a good idea

>>29263822
Begin with hacking the carrier. If we get the carrier's codes, we are most likely going to be able to hack the other ships and station far more easily as our doings can be hidden in the standard handshake protocols.

i still think the carrier is some kinda trap from the UGEI.

>>29263865
I'm thinking of hacking communications first.

>>29263901
Then this would be a very elaborate and expensive trap for the UGEI. I would still take the bait however.

>>29263958
>>29263901
Very possible. For that reason we should also have our firewall V.I. prepared to defend us at a split seconds' notice and ask him to pay close attention to our own firewalls.

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>>29263828
well, the carrier is a true prize. but these.. pirates. are not normal pirates. too well organized. could well be a break away rebel forces. either we cut a deal with them, bribe them, or threaten to blow them all up and/or hack and vent them all to do our dirty work in starting a war between UGEI and the shark xenos.

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>Listen in for info
You detect that the asteroid base seems to have several centers, entertainment rooms, cafeteria, bunk houses. It really is a full on city in deep space. You wonder how the pirates managed to get such a thing...

You catch hint of the pirates moving a large container down on the docks of their asteroid colony. They're wearing suits, you suspect to breath, as they guide the large steel container up to the cargo hull of Apocalypse Now.
"What do you say we teach those assholes up in UGEI fleet security what happens when you mess with Red Horizon, huh?!" One of the men yells through his signal, earning a resounding yell from the others. They sure do enjoy yelling a lot.
"They'll never see this sucker coming. A little bio-logi-cal warfare and all that, yeah?" One of the men snickers, extremely proud of their plan apparently. You can sense several Cruisers take off and start to get into formation around the Carrier.

What do you do?
>1 Jump in and stop their 'bio attack'.
>2 Hack the Carrier. If we take it without it being destroyed, this fight will be easier.
>3 Leave undisturbed. The UGEI likely deserve whatever they're gonna get.
>4 Write In

>>29263998
>Wait for the fleet to leave before taking over the asteroid base.

>>29263998
if they are going to attack the UDEI we could steal it during the attack.

>>29263998
>>2 Hack the Carrier. If we take it without it being destroyed, this fight will be easier.
If possible after they get the cargo aboard. don't want them running off with it or setting it off.

>>29263998
>4
Hail the pirates.
"This is the Guild. We have been monitoring your recent activity and believe we have common interests. We propose a joint strike as long you drop your biological component."

>>29263998
thats a thought:

could we disguise our hacking attempt as a UGEI signal during their little fight? if we hack the UGEI while their in conflict and then route our signal through them to hack the carrier...

>>29263998
If we have time, launch the virus that gives us an idea on their firewall, if not, hack away immediately

>>29263998
>2 It will most likely also make it easier to hack the other ships if they do not realize in time that it has been taken quickly enough, or are simply limited by their human reaction speed from cutting it off and blocking its codes quickly enough.
Put all the BW we can spare into doing so but be prepared to jump in with nearly everything.

If we can warp in close, I'd like to punch some boarding torpedoes into some of the cruisers, the carrier and the station and follow the spiderbots (and potentially their support weapon if it becomes necessary) as they spread terror on their way to the bridge and reactor.
Biological weapons are effective against civilinans, not

>>29264114
Heh. I can second that.

>>29264114
Yeah, they're not likely to do that.

>>29263998
If we can covertly take over the Carrier's system, even better. Then we can simply flee from the battle with the UGEI as it begins with our new carrier and strike at the asteroid base.
And as I understood it, the biological weapons are loaded onto the carrier, so they would also be disallowed from destroying the civilian population of their target planet.

>>29264144
>Biological weapons are effective against civilians, not military, due to them having good isolation gear. Gasmasks and vacuum-sealed suits and the like.

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>>29263998
>4 Write In
contact Red if he knows any "Red Horizon". he might be a ex-UGEI defector like him.
also. move our fleet in and open a comm line to this "Red Horizon". inform him we are The Guild and him and us have a common foe with the UGEI. see if he's willing to make a deal and/or join forces.

>>29264114
I don't think this is likely to end well at all, so I'm putting my vote against it.

The biological attack is likely the entire point of their assault, so they're not likely to be willing to drop it.

>>29264126
>>29264137
>>29264144
>>29264239
Dudes, these guys hate the UGEI. We have a common enemy, this is our chance to strike at the UGEI.

>>29264284
and risk losing the carrier & whatever bio-weapon the pirates have. I'd prefer to capture and study it.

>>29263998
also, i hate to bring this up. lately some jerk has be saving threads in sup/tg/ and perposly misfiling them. anyone please properly save this thread before it gets hit by that vandel.

>>29264284
they are planning to attack citizens.

>>29264126
Most pirates aren't smart enough to recognize signals.

>>29263998
So...a three way tie then?
>1 Hail the Pirates
>2 Hack the Carrier
>3 Wait for the pirates to leave.

If no decision is reached, I shall roll 1d3.

>>29264344
>1

>>29264321
That's why we join the attack

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>>29264284
>>29264282
>>29264239
well, we can covertly hack the carrier first then make the open contact, we will have the carrier under our control anyway at that point.

>>29264344
2

>>29264344
>>3 Wait for the pirates to leave.

>>29264284
>planning to kill civvies
>going to waste their boss ship on a stupid plan

nah, this shit belongs to us now.

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>>29264344
>1 Hail the Pirates

>>29264344
>2 Hack the Carrier

>>29264344
2 & 3 can be combined.
Heck, 1 & 2 can be combined as well.

>>29264340
This.
The entire point of their attack is to strike at civilians. Their method of attack are bioweapons.
They are extremely unlikely to accept help from an unknown hand, and even if they did they would have no point in attacking as the entire point of this attack is most likely to deliver the bioweapons and then retreat.

You're essentially asking them to turn down the attack.
If we were to go this route, it would probably be more efficient to warp into the battle, simply not fire upon them, and only then explain that we have a common enemy and have no hostile intentions towards them.
(And even then I want to hack the carrier.

>>29264272
Can we do this in short order? Or ask the UFW if they know?

>>29264344
>2 Hack the Carrier

>>29264344
>2
These guys are retarded. UGEI mostly uses VI anyway. Why would they think Biological weapons are good?

These stupid faggots are just going to get themselves blown up, which means they're going to get OUR fancy carrier with a thousand fighters blown up.

>>29264388
Well at least hail first? They would be less agreeable if we hack first.

>>29264418
Ask them no to carry out the bio attack, also pirates are smart enough not to lose their carrier.

>>29264445
Follow their original attack plan, but with our support we can capture the system.

>>29264388
This is better.
I just don't see any way the hailing could result in what we want. Even if they don't attack us, they're not going to accept that we blow off the entire reason for the attack and simply trust a completely new element to not backstab them in this battle. For all they know, we are UGEI, or at least an UGEI-based corporation.

>>29264344
>2

>>29264344
2

>>29264472
Seconding. These dicks are going to draw too much attention. We'll be forced into a large conflict and our advantages revolve around hacking.

>>29264344
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0

Archived because I am a little spooked by the thought of more misarchival. Damn OCD

>>29264499
We can covertly hack it. They won't know it's hacked until we actually start using it against them. But hailing them will put them on their guard, and make hacking more difficult.

I'd like to remind you that these are pirates who intend to use bioweapons on an entire civilian population because they are angry at the UGEI.
They're not the kind of people to listen to reason, nor are they the kind of people we want to be known for associating with.

>>29264505
I would like to think that we are famous enough that people know we are anti-UGEI. At least give them the chance to side up with us before swiping their ships. (We are going to swipe their ships anyways, but at least they'll work with us first)

>>29264499
They'd be harder to hack if we hailed first, also I think they'd be much more willing to listen to our demands once we have their most powerful ship under our control.

>>29264571
you just barely beat me to it.

>>29264344
Going to go back on hailing them.

2 is the most reasonable course of action. Be prepared to jump in with ships, too. Everyone should be on standby.

>>29264571
Thanks, Program0. That is a worrying development.

And not sure how many individual voters there are, but it fortunately looks like we're hacking them first at the very least.

>>29264344
>2 it is.

((Please roll 1d100 to hack, as well as any additional viruses(costing more bandwidth to use instead of hack)))

Reminder we need our humanoid android to manually sort through the viral intelligence code. Lets not launch boarding rockets.

>KRONOS LAUNCH THE CAT AND FLOATING BALL
lol no

>>29264585
We're also famous for wiping out pirate bases.

And again, pirates. Evil pirates. Genocidal evil pirates, even.
"Murdering entire planets of civilians because the organization that owns their planet pissed them off" level of genocidal evil pirates.

They're not the trusting type.

Rolled 77

>>29264658
add the polymorph trojan horse

Rolled 21

>>29264658
Convert hack, and use both stealth viruses. Use anti-virus VI to advise us on avoiding detection.