looks like my internet chose a great time to comeback on!

if Macho Braces are too expensive I'm betting Bruise and Devon will each have one by the end of the weak

>>28649696
This is thread 2, so make sure you go read thread 1 >>28642439

>>28649705
Seems like a special thing. Non-purchasable

>>28649712
I was there for most of it

only missed the voting for teammates

(I was the dofus that accidentally voted Alexis twice)

sometimes my connection just cuts out ranging from 10 mins to 10 hours. never buy a house with wiring from the 60's

>>28649635
Looks like nighttime visit to the Spire. Creepy...

Also yay mom's friend!

>>28649747
A-Are you me?

>>28649757
I hope not, your day sounds bad enough already

>>28649757
>Looks like nighttime visit to the Spire. Creepy...
We haven't visited the Spire at night yet, I assume.

>>28649635
>Crytten-from-mom confirmation soon, fellow Rangers

Stamina: 15%

You decided to wear your favorite water-blue dress with some gloves tipped to sheath your claws. You swish it to and fro happily as you board the electromag tram en route to Pallet Square. From there it'd be easy to find the Research institute after all.

On the tram, you get a few weird looks from some non-ranger passengers. A nervous smile to try to disarm their and your unease proves to only worsen it, a lady moving a few seats down from you, her chin up and her eye focused on your out of the corner.

You've gotten looks like this before from some people. You tug at your dress with a bit of anxiety, turning your thoughts toward the person that you'd be meeting at the institute.

Word from mom. That's enough to drive away the pressure of those looks. Though it may as well make people just as nervous with the "monster" on board smiling madly to itself.

Oh well, they can deal with it. You're happy.

>+1 to Ten.

>>28649793
I wonder how many rangers are stationed outside the dome?

>>28649779
>>28649757
time for atmosphere!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ7QV1G3zEQ

>>28649800
Ah, adorable, adorable crowd panic.

>>28649800
Dang. If only our grafts weren't so obvious...oh well.
Try not to disturb anyone, and lets get going. Woo Tenacious!

>>28649800
We haven't interacted with civilians extensively in the past, right?

With fellow rangers, no one really reacts much to one another's implants. Or, even in cases like Koga's, we just easily accept it even after being initially perturbed by his appearance (as we were with Kitty the first time we saw her up close).

I guess this sort of problem is going to crop up more as we grow older and are forced to interact with the normal populace more, huh?

I CANNOT WAIT for the nighttime trip to ghost town.

"Hello? Anyone there? I brought cake!"

>>28649800
I was kinda hoping we could show off our claws to this guy. He's obviously a lone ranger ice type. And awesome as fuck.

>>28649800
>And people want to add more on

>>28649800
Once again I am reminded of risa

>>28649800
Looks like Cerulean needs to practice a polite, closed-lip smile for the normals.
>>28649826
not yeeeet, it is time for joyous news now. hopefully

>>28649800
>>28649834

One day... one day WE'LL HUG THEM ALL!

>>28649857
We'll make sure to give him a hug before we go and tell him to pass it on to our mother.

>>28649800
So any reason why we wouldn't have Rested on the ride over to the research center?

>>28649862
Why?

>>28649860
So? Why the fuck should we care what some dumb civies think?

>>28649883
>Why didn't we Rest?
I think we did man. We got 10 Stamina back. That's better then the 4 we were at.

>>28649883
Because we're giddy and excited. We're going to see someone who knows mom, who is bringing us a message from her.

>>28649860
Only 1 or two, maybe three. But probably 1. Shelder.

>>28649890
>So?
The glaring disparity between established characterization and anons desperate to build the ultimate battle-loli is kinda funny.

>>28649910
Anon, you may have a problem. Put down the scalpel

>>28649894
Nah. We were too excited to rest. 10stamina in half an hour is low for regular recuperation. Though it makes sense since we're tired as fuck.

>>28649894
I just assumed that was natural. If we did Rest, I'd wish Prof would mention it, so that we can get the most out of our abilities.

>>28649890
>>28649913
Or to phrase it in a more polite way; Cerulean's appearance and the way normal people react to her reflects our mentality and how, in the setting, other people would think of it.

>>28649883
The way the smile freaked people out, its almost entirely the fact we look like a cat

>>28649932
>>28649934
Whoop. I'm dumb, nevermind.

The opinions of nameless extras are just like them.\

Inconsequential

Let them gaze in wonder at our visage so they know ELITE when they see it

>>28649944
But why would that remind you of Risa?

>>28649910
and vaporeon, glaceon, froslass, glalie, lumineon, milotic, lapras...

>>28649913
No, it's just that what civilians think of her matters a shit ton less than being stronger. Fuck she will also see it as protecting those people better.

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>>28649924
Suddenly I'm reminded of someone.
Can't quite think of who.
Suddenly San/Essence loss from implants starts to make sense.

>>28649968
>No, it's just that what civilians think of her matters a shit ton less than being stronger. Fuck she will also see it as protecting those people better.
That's one way to react, anon, but others here may choose to reign in the number of implants we get. It'd be a valid choice.

>>28649965
Froslas is the only one of those, and that's if we go to Hoenn.

>>28649976
Only if we start replacing big chunks of brain.
Only then.

>>28649958
He's probably talking about the protag from HQR, not the Risa from this quest.

>>28649989
And then I'll be reminded of risa even more

>>28649979
Cerulean isn't stupid. She wouldn't let something inconsequential affect her decision.

>>28649976
I can see that happening when we have to say...replace limbs that have been torn off.

>>28649976
What's the graft limit again?

do we remind you of Stein because we're the best character in the story too?

>>28650008
Or we just implant a staryu on our chest or back

>>28650012
>best character
>Stein, not Medusa

Missed it by that much.

>>28650012
None

>>28650035
Now just imagine us regrowing limbs just for them to be torn off again and again and again.

>>28650007
She's 12. I also meant to allude to the fact that this kind of social reprucussion has tended to happen to her for almost the past 2 years.
Just drawing in more overall background fluff.

Civies don't really like to see rangers all the time, especially ones with predatory teeth. Scary in person.

>>28650050
>>28650012
Only 2 type limit.

>>28650012
Long as it's two types, excluding Normal and Flying, and assuming you aren't 100% monster, no limit

>>28650042
Fucking hated that bitch. As annoying as he was in the beginning my favorite was black star.

>>28650007
Is it inconsequential? We are human beings, after all. It's fine to be hurt when others think negatively of you. That just proves we have feelings. It's fine to roleplay like that. There's no requirement where we need to max out our character's equips.

Right now, Cerulean DOES care about what other people think about her looks. There's no changing that. And there are anons here who care about her looks too, although from a design perspective. That's a valid concern as well.

>>28650061
>Social pressure
Yeah...really need to master the art of the toothless smile.

Would eating a dead ranger's implants be cannibalism, just wondering

>all this desire for low profile implants
You just fuel my shellder bone lacing surgery suggestions, anon.
Fuck organ damage, we've got reinforced ribcage.

>>28650072
Black star had some serious character growth.

He went from Narutard to sword saint.

>>28650074
And once we go back to the barracks or better yet, the next time we see a monster whatever small part of her that cares what they think (not her friends which she has plenty of) will die for good.

Oliver showed her just how serious this was, serious enough to put that shit aside.

>>28650083
Oh god I just realized how cute, and sad, a little social quirk like that really is.

"She loves to smile, but she never shows her teeth, and if you make her smile wide enough to force it, she covers her mouth with her gloved hands. She doesn't want anyone to see. She doesn't want to scare anyone anymore."

>>28650121
Shells are external. Plus then we couldn't use shell smash.

>>28650137
Is there anything stopping us from implanting them internally?

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>Civvies scared of a 60%er

>>28650137
teeth are supposed to be in your mouth, but we don't want to bite things so we made them into claws.

The same can be said for other grafts we will get.

>>28650121
I will never get over how stupid that is. Why in the world wouldn't we put it on top of the skin so it can actually protect us.

>>28650131
Anon, all I'm saying is that there are other ways for her character to develop. And that there are people here interested in making sure that Cerulean's design doesn't look dumb. Have you ever been to any of the Mary Sue threads? Where they post pictures of the worst designed Sues? Yeah. Don't want any of that.

>>28650122
Yes

I imagine we'll have external Shells on our arms and legs over major arteries so we can use them to shield us while the rest will be internal around our vitals.

>>28650158
Anon, you.....

It'd protect us, alright. Just not like external armor. It shouldn't be hard to understand why having unbreakable bones is a good thing.

I understand that you think having it on top is better as armor. It is. But having it underneath does have its benefits as well and is less obtrusive.

>>28650158
It still protects the important bits if it's under the skin. Raises general survivability by a whole huge amount with very minimal profile change or loss of mobility.
basically; Adamantium bones. Combined with our regen-like rest.

>Not getting shellder bone grafts AND external plating

>>28650162
It's not about that. No matter how much people try to throw that buzzword around, we are not a matter sue. We can be able to do many or most things and not be one.

You can start saying we're a Mary sue once we get articuno wings.

maybe along our spine as well.

>>28650215
No, you misunderstand. The reason why I brought up Mary Sues is to illustrate that design is important and that having too much going on at the same time can destroy the image. A sense of aesthetics is important when making characters.

>>28650202
I just see no reason to put them under our skin instead of on top of it. And looks doesn't count.

>>28650215
Considering how big Articuno probably is in the absurdly unlikely event that it's taken down there'll probably be a lot of Articuno implanted Rangers soon after if the body is usable.

>>28650246
Fitting into clothes easier, less restricted mobility, general comfort while using our all important rest ability, hydrodynamics, as shellders aren't very good swimmers, need I go on?

There's all sorts of advantages to a slimmer profile that should be considered.

>>28650190
have you seen how cloyster? evolving subdermal shellder implants could kill us, and before you say just don't evolve it it means we can't handle water stones.

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>>28650215
Right now we look more monster than human.

It's just fortunate that we look pretty much like a fluffy plump cat instead of an abomination.

But when we start grafting things to us that aren't even -vertebrates- things can get ugly.

>>28650296
>pic
Oh dear god wat

>>28650246
Having armor doesn't stop penetrating hits (that is to say, strikes that get past armor through shock/ripples). It's like....building a bunker. It's not just the exterior that should be fortified. The insides should be even sturdier. Better support.

So external versus internal; they have different protective benefits, and the latter would be more aesthetically pleasing and less restrictive to our movements.

>>28650291
We'll work it out, anon. Talk to a scientist in the story. No need to worry about things like that now.

>>28650291
Shell spikes would jut out from the skin. Spiked Knucks, Spiked Elbow, Spiked Spine.
Be completely terrible for putting on clothes.
And, you know. Harder than diamond.

>>28650241
This isn't about "making a character" in this world rangers do what they must to survive or they die.

basing anything off of asthetics is retarded when it affects life and death situations. Characters will almost never choose to die (or have a higher chance of dying) than to look a little mismatched

Plus shelder armor isn't ugly if we place it right.

>>28650153
It wouldn't make full use of having a shell, if it was actually possible. Cloyster can take less damage from weather effects, become immune to spores, and shift from buffing under it's shell to full offense. Withdraw > Focus energy x times > shell smash > lock on + sniper + icebeam spam anyone?

>>28650296
Purple and yellow I'd fuck, the others a touch too furry for me

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>>28650327
But most rangers aren't completely maxed out.

Like Jessica, Jamie, Kitty, they could all have a LOT more grafts than they actually do.

And are you honestly going to tell me that they're not the best around?

>>28650307
What's the problem? Do you really think we'll look much better when we grow up?

I really really don't like shellder/cloyster at all and I hope we try to work on what we have now instead of trying to pile more and more on.

Look at what the older rangers we know have. We're already sitting at the same or more types of implants than most of them.

>>28650282
How many times do I have to say this?

Getting some parts does not turn you into that pokemon. Swimming will not be affected. Shells are also light as fuck. It going on our skin (not jutting out from) won't reduce mobility unless we plate our joints over like a dumbass.

>>28650327
And yet, Gym Leaders.....

Look, anon, these are valid complaints. Stop belittling them. You don't have to agree, but you must acknowledge the fact that other people are concerned on this issue. Don't act like a twat.

>>28650330
it would also require substantially less shellders. Though, the spikes-jutting-from-skin thing would be a problem.

>>28650346
>fucking the 2 that will melt you dick off

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>>28650330
How the fuck would that work for us?

Unless we take a page from Samus and somehow Morph-Ball into our shell, there's no way for us to get that kind of protection.

Cloyster is a sphere with a douchey expression, even if we graft it onto us, it won't mean we'll be able to do everything it can.

>>28650359
This is disturbingly relevant.
>Feraligator
Oh god no we know someone that took Totodile I think

>>28650395
>Cloyster is a sphere with a douchey expression
You mean an anti-rape goblin.

>>28650395
>Douchy expression.
I assume you mean the anti rape goblin.
He's not a douche, though he can double as one in a pinch.

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>>28650346
I'm pretty sure we're just as far gone, since we got the cat mouth, nose, mouth that changed our facial structure, eyes.

How do people even recognize us?

>>28650291
Things evolve to fit their needs. Still against it though

>>28650296
Who cares about asthetics? And I said it before we're just taking parts not becoming it.

>>28650325
I wouldn't mind, would make us a bit more like misty, though we not get it on our back. Or not evolve it

>>28650415
>You mean an anti-rape goblin.

I always thought it looked like a Ghastly with a hard-on.

>>28650387
I'd go out as a legend instead of a furfag
worth it

>>28650431
>How do people even recognize us?
My guess would be "The fat cat bitch with a horn"

>>28650432
>Who cares about asthetics?
Well, clearly, some anons do. Else this conversation wouldn't be taking place.

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>>28650395
>091__cloyster_by_speedvore-d6hghud.png
>speedvore

>>28650405
female?

>>28650431
We have the cat teeth, I see no reason for a hare-lip, and the rhinarium could easily be left behind while taking the improved sinuses. Really, the only things that are definite are that we have the full ears and the teeth.

>>28650325
That would be terrible for hugging.

>>28650467
>>28650432
It's not that I'm against defense, guys...but...

I wouldn't mind getting rid of cat teeth. I mean, not like we're gonna actually bite stuff.

>>28650371
But the sole reason of asthetics is dumb. That's all there is to say. Looks don't matter when lives are on the line.

>>28650475
and eyes, woops

>>28650490
They boost mouth based Ice attacks.

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>>28650461
I meant like Marine and Aqua.

Since the horn and hair are the only things in common with our previous form.

Also I forget, Goldenrod didn't get Abra's face/ears right? So he just kind of has yellow fur?

>>28650494
Look. Anon. Just respect is. Don't be an ass, alright? Gawd. How hard is it not be to not act like such a jerk about this?

>>28650501
>Having teeth makes ice beam better
Wha? that makes no sense.

>>28650490
Frost breath.

And we don't have to evolve the shelder

>>28650522
frost breath. The cryttens teeth are cold emitters.

>>28650431
>How do people even recognize us?

"is she hugging someone right now?"

>>28650525
no, the yellow teeth were... I thought anyway. We put those on our hands

>>28650536
the others were as well, but not as powerful.

>>28650325
Spiked Knuckles are counter productive to our current mods can't use them at the same time as our Remoraid guns and Crytten tooth claws.
Elbow Spikes are covered by the Crytten mods.
but the armoured spine, ribcage and legs are helpful

>>28650536
I think he's saying that we shoot ice beams out of our hands.

Which we probably can because of the Remoraid implants?

>>28650461
I just imagine civies talking about us
"So that fat cat bitch with a horn hugged me yesterday after the attack, errrrgh"

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>>28650501
Nah that's only the special golden teeth.

Which we put in our hands.

>>28650473
You only noticed that now? Despite the horrifying name, the artist doesn't really have anything that objectionable. ...Nor anything that exceptional either.

>>28650518
Frost teeth make mouth base frost attacks stronger.

>>28650518
I refuse to believe someone cares about asthetics when their life is on the line. Cerulean would gladly be ugly as fuck if it meant protecting her friends and the dome.

>>28650547
Oh, no I just wanted to get rid of the teeth in our mouth. So we can smile again.

>>28650551
They both do, the small ones just less

>>28650551
>Nah that's only the special golden teeth.
>>28650536

No. All the teeth in mouth give a boost to mouth-launched Ice attacks. The gold sabrefangs would have given a bigger boost if put in-mouth, but we didn't. So we only got the mid level boost for the non-sabre teeth.

>>28650560
>I refuse to believe someone cares about asthetics when their life is on the line. Cerulean would gladly be ugly as fuck if it meant protecting her friends and the dome.
she'd still rather not be so fat

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>>28650494
Except lives won't depend on us being completely covered in grafts.

Most rangers only have one species probably.

Even Misty herself only has three, doesn't she?

And hell, Brock only has two for some reason.

>>28650563
We can, just not around civies

>>28650563
What would we replace them with? They didn't save our teeth, And we can smile
it's just horrifying to civilians, who we currently have no friends off, Besides imagine how awesome it would be to befriend one of them and make them learn not to judge books by their covers? Overcome the obstacle, don't avoid it.

>>28650560
>I refuse to believe someone cares about asthetics when their life is on the line. Cerulean would gladly be ugly as fuck if it meant protecting her friends and the dome.
See, Anon. You're being horrible because you continue to disregard other people's opinions on this matter.

There are things we'd rather not be forced to do if we can help it. And, fortunately, we can help it.

Other Gym Leaders can "help it" too.

Cerulean is a human being, anon, and she is allowed to act like one. She is not required to become the perfect soldier.

>>28650621
>She is not required to become the perfect soldier.
That was a poor choice of words, considering one of our earliest stated goals is to be the best.

>>28650621
I'd go so far to say that too many grafts is bad. They interfere if you don't put them in useful places (Like, say, the gold teeth. If we put them in our mouth) Or if we put every water type ever into us?

Besides, none of our skills are even above 5. I'd rather wait till we master something before we jam more flesh in us.

Disembarking from the tram, you follow the street signs to the institute, receiving fewer stares as you near, much to your relief.

You'd run down these streets if you weren't so tired, you swear. Everything's still so sore, especially after sitting on the tram like that.

Within the insitute, you look around in the lobby. The person should be here. Where-

"You there, you're Cerulean, yes?" You hear the deep and low voice of a man from behind you, your ears twitch in the direction of the voice, your head following suit in the next instant.

Before you stands a tall man, well. All adults are tall, but this one is more so than usual. A light blue, almost white Ranger uniform covered most of his body with a thick white fur spilling out from his built chest and swollen arms and hands. His teeth look like Shark's and you can see that despite the fur, his hands bear a kind of webbing along with his face being angular, though shaggy hair falls before his eyes.
This man indeed is huge, bigger than you expected, and you're baffled that you hadn't noticed him right away.
You absently nod your head, gazing upon this giant of a man with a stark wonder.
The man extends a hand the size of a dinner plate, talons at the end of his fingers,"Nice to meet you little, Cerulean. My name is Gustav. It is a pleasure to meet you."

>[]"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.
>[] Look on in wonder, stunned by his largeness.
>[] "You know my mom?"
>[] (Other)

>>28650585
She wouldn't get rid of the implants because she knows they protect her.

>>28650586
It is very simple. Armor = more combat capability. More combat capability = more protecting. Very simple.

Personally identifiable think Prof made a mistake keeping most rangers confined like he does. They would be taking implants all over the place.

I just realized something. If Ice rangers get sent to frozen hellholes, wouldn't Fire/Ice be just as good, if not better in some situations than water/Ice would?

>>28650651
>"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.

This guy. Any guesses as to what his implants are?

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>>28650586
Yeah Misty has three, Goldeen (evolved) Horsea (evolved) and Starmie.

Brock has two, Golem and OC Skalgite (which I think is kind of bullshit. Not that he has an OC, but just that he only has those two).

Even Koga only has two separate species of grafts, Venonat (some evolved, some not) and Weedle (evolved).

So really, we have more than most gym leaders at this point. Three is a perfectly respectable amount.

>>28650651
>>[]"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.

>>28650647
Obviously. You just have to be smart about where we place them.

People seem to be forgetting our shit defense.

>>28650651
"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.

Let's try and be polite...even though he'd be able to tear our arm off with a simple twist.

>>28650663
Getting stabbed with Icicles works just as well as on a normal type. It's more to do with effects and environmental jargon.

Ice/Fire has also never happened in a pokemon species, nor does it even seem likely as a ranger. They'd likely need to go Asymmetric.

>>28650663
Too late anon. We missed that glorious boat.

I was sad too

>>28650653
>She wouldn't get rid of the implants because she knows they protect her.
wasn't suggesting that, only that she cares somewhat about how she looks.

>>28650691
>They'd likely need to go Asymmetric
What?

>>28650651
Quick! Talk to strangers!

>>28650651
Turn on the cold, walk straight past his massive paw, and give him a nice cold fluffy hug. Try not to get lost in his hugeness.

"It's nice to meet you too Gustav. Could you pass this on to my mother when you see her next?"

Then it's time for a childish barrage of questions, like how he got so big, if our mother talks about us, what it's like up in the arctic, what they do up there, what his team mates are like.

>>28650651
>>[]"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.
>[] "You know my mom?"
>"Wow. You are HUGE!"
in that order

>>28650711
Yes, but they will always be behind any and all combat ability.

>>28650651
And now we try to figure out what Gustav is. I'm thinking Bliger for sure. What else?

>>28650721
I like the first and middle part here.

>>28650721
This.

Cold hugs all around. >>28650

>>28650713
>Premature Freezer Array: Cold sacs that have been installed within your body, they lower your core temperature to comfortable levels. enables Frozen fur and eases ice-based weaponry. +1 rank to acquired Ice skills -5 rank to acquired Fire Skills.
odds are that the Fire sacs have a similar but reversed effect

>>28650733
Sharkpedo.

If he got lucky/unlucky.

Seriously, that pokemon is terrifying.

>>28650681
And people are also forgetting that we don't need to be the best at every role. This is one of the worst aspects of /tg/ in quests; their tendency to turtle.

>>28650733
Sharpedo

>>28650651
>>[x]"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.
Very professional of us. I think it fits the experienced view Cerulean's developed over the the year.

>>28650733
I'm thinking Sharpedo and Beartic

>>28650651
>[]"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.
>[] "You know my mom?"
Shake his hand, since he offered it, but we're excited as fuck.

>>28650721
ok this is pretty good too.

>>28650676
>>28650733
I'm gonna go with the longshot of Beartic.

>>28650713
Put the implants on opposite sides of the body so they don't interfere with each other.

>>28650768
Professionalism is for when it doesn't involve our mother. He's the closest thing to her that we're getting for a while.

And look at the guy, he probably gives awesome bear hugs and knows how nice cold hugs are.

>>28650727

"Fear not the man that practices 10000 different kicks. Fear the man that has practiced one kick 10000 times."

It's a mstter of specializing vs generalization. Both are viable, though you'll see some falling into one more than the other.

Covering bases with multiple types of implants vs using 1-2 with maximum effectiveness.

>>28650765
Bring that up again when we get articuno wings, until shut up that is a stupid argument.

> let's increase the risk of death because I'm tired of success.

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>>28650681
There's nothing wrong about being a glass cannon.

Sure it's not the most optimized form, but we don't always have to be an all-rounder.

It's okay to be someone other than Mario.

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>>28650651
>[]"Nice to meet you Mr. Gustav..." Shake his hand.
>[] "You know my mom?"

>>28650676
definitely Beartic

I just want to put the image of Sharkpedo in everyone's head.
Dark/Water
Shark the size of a van
Red psycho eyes
Specilises in bite related attacks.

You do not have a big enough boat.

>>28650721
This, though give him time to answer the questions before we ask the next one.

We might not even be able to wrap our arms around him.

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>>28650808
...Wait, that would be Water/Ice/Evil.

Maybe instead of Sharpedo, it's one of them Monster Hunter things?

Like that shark monster from Monster Hunter that was talked about last thread?

>>28650768
Not when it comes to her mom

>>28650796
how about covering bases then specializing? Dumb argument. People act like learning some melee will make our range shitty, etc etc.

Besides you don't train armor.

>>28650830
Look into his eyes. The eyes tell the tale. If he looks like he could roll his eyes up and devour us, then it's Sharkpedo.

>>28650808
He can't be that then. He is obviously ice.

>>28650808
Take a look at its pokedex:
>Its fangs rip through sheet iron .
>It swims at 75 mph/

You'll never have a big enough boat.

>>28650830
Every single one of those pics your posting is horrible.

>>28650798
Anon, the fact that you hate the idea so much shows that this isn't really so much an idea of what direction you want to take the character in, but an issue of maximizing our abilities. That's one way of having fun in a game, but you must realize that your current attitude is utterly unacceptable.

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>>28650834
It's just that I see no way to integrate THIS blob in a shell without looking absolutely retarded no matter how you slice it.

There have to be other water/ice pokemon that don't have a shit defense.

>>28650830
you can separate the types. eg. as we've replaced the seel water sac we had, our seel implants only give us ice typing

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>>28650856
Not him, but what do you think OF THI

>>28650855
That's why they repel tech their damn boats. Salt water is a nightmare.

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>>28650873
Mega Shuckle is the nightmare of evil and those who don't lift

>>28650862
Your attitude of sabatoging the quest is unacceptable.

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>>28650856
I disagree.

THIS is horrible.

>>28650834
Learning something else (ie; using our experience points on that) means neglecting other avenues.

The armor would slow us down and would nullify the speed bonuses we get from our crytten implants.

>>28650873
If we have a Jaws episode I swear to god
I SWEAR TO GOD
Seriously, I'm terrified of deep water.

>>28650889
Don't get blood in the water.
They're super-sharks.

>>28650867
By taking it apart, getting multiple, and making it armor on our outer arms and legs, and shoulders.

You don't actually become the pokemon.

>>28650882
Basically what he's saying is that you're a min-maxer. And that's fine. But you've got the attitude of a munchkin. And that's not fine. Because it means you shit on everyone else who doesn't aim to minmax like you.

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>>28650883
Please stop

>>28650889
I'd prefer us trying to save a drowning civilian from their perspectives

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>>28650903
As long as that's the extent of it, I guess I could reluctantly agree.

But do we really want to become the Shredder?

>>28650796
>"Fear not the man that practices 10000 different kicks. Fear the man that has practiced one kick 10000 times."
I was kind of disappointed when I realized this is true due to the nature of this system, makes coverage moves a lot less valuable than they are in the games, I suppose that is good given the lack of the 4 move restriction.
I will say though, that I am a fan of tons of grafts and it is because of abilities and utility, abosrbing elements, being immune to burns/spores, regenerating, being able to turn into water.

>>28650830
whoa, he deigned to put clothing on one of them.

>>28650867
You implant the mantle and shell.

>>28650889
You have now guaranteed the investigation leads us to Cinnabar's island dome. Enjoy.

>>28650887
Would not slow us down. Check the weight for shelder compared to size. You could throw that thing like a football. Light as shit.

>>28650904
But I'm not. I'm trying to make sure he/people don't kill us out of fear of marysueing.

>>28650930
Agility would be affected, then.

>>28650927
>Immunities and Regen
I love those too, actually, and if there is one thing I'd like us to take, and lock in with an Everstone it's a Staryu for dat regen. I think Staryu is water only...I think.

It'd be neat to have.

>>28650889
lets just post this now and get it out of the way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV8i-pSVMaQ

>>28650927
>Jaws episode
god damn it ;~;

>>28650941
That wasn't the original point, however. The Mary Sue thing was only brought up to make it easier to visualize the worst character designs.

>>28650923
Don't have to evolve

>>28650945
still no. Just don't implant it on your joints

>>28650957
DAMN IT MAN I COULDN'T BATHE FOR A WEEK WHEN I SAW THAT FUCKIN FILM

I mean, I was like 10 but still.

>>28650960
It wouldn't have to be the joints, though. Armor restricts movement all the same, even if allowances are made for the joints.

>>28650959
But you shouldn't care about character designs. Cerulean wouldn't.

I still like the shellder bone grafts.

Even if it would poke spikes through when evolved, what do you think would happen if it evolved when stuck on over the skin? STILL SPIKES

>>28650979
No, she wouldn't. She'd be worrying about her appearances. Like right now.

Look. YOU don't have to care about it. All I've been asking you to do is respect the others. Because you haven't been.

>>28650979

Cerulean kind of does.She's not even 14 yet. Just wait Anon. Just wait for this shit.

>>28650979
She's been shown to care about her appearances on a somewhat regular basis.

>>28650977
No. This isn't DnD. If your skin is harder at one place it doesn't restrict you if it doesn't need to be bent.

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>>28650927
>whoa, he deigned to put clothing on one of them.
Surprisingly the artist actually appears to be a woman. Which, given that she's on deviantART shouldn't really be surprising, since that, like tumblr, is an important exception to the "no girls on the internet" law.

She just... likes making mediocre drawings of naked women with different body shapes.

More on topic, I really hope we are able to spread out some points to really explore the wonders of Octillery's omniguns. Because I want to FIRE EVERYTHING.

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>>28650979
>>28650991
ARE YOU READY, BROTHER?

>>28651003
But it's not skin. It's shell.

>>28650990
>>28650991
>>28651001
She does care. But she would put it aside.

>>28650873

Fuck Repel Tech...

You need goddamned flechette dischargers and hedgehog launchers.

As soon as one of those things is spotted, you use the Hedgehog launchers (also good against larger objects...these things were death to U-boats that were at periscope-depth).

If it gets past those....then you use the flechette dischargers. Very similar to the Ontos vehicles the US used in Vietnam....6-barreled monstrosities that launched flechette rounds into the jungle. Anything caught in that hail of razor-sharp metal will be shredded, and water is only going to slow it down a little bit.

>>28650991
>QM says that the character does in fact care
>>28651023
>"Nah. She doesn't care."

>>28650988
>I still like the shellder bone grafts.
i'm down for this so long as it's limited to spine, legs and ribs(as in places that don't overlap with our other weapons systems.

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>>28650988
She would.

She DOES.

We literally saw it just now. And that's when we still look adorable from a certain perspective, and could conceivably be thought of as pretty in a weird cat way when we grow older and our grafts fill out.

So I'm not sure what you're reading, but it certainly hasn't been this quest.

>>28651023
Anon, that's one way she'd react. The other is that she wouldn't abandon aesthetics completely, like you're advocating for everyone to do. Your opinion isn't the only one that matters.

>>28651023
I believe you under estimate little girls mang.

>>28651019
But it is implanted. So it is essentially very hard skin that cannot bend or break. So if it doesn't need to bend or break then there is no problem.

>>28651034
And you know what that'd create?
Blood in the water.

>>28651038
I think the skull would be something you'd want to make diamond-hard if you could.

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>>28651040
Wait whoops, meant to respond to >>28650979

And again, we have more grafts than GYM LEADERS.

Until we see other people with more than four grafts, I'd say we should hold off.

>>28651037
I'm saying she isn't dumb enough to risk her and her friends lives to look a little better.

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>>28651010
OOOOHHHH YEEAAAHHH!

MEGA POWERS GONNA PILEDRIVE PUBERTY!

Cerulean will resemble the lovely Elizabeth when we're done!


DIG IT!

>>28651040
>inb4 her "thick fat" just makes her stacked with great hips once she's older/taller

>>28651006
>Firing Gunk-filled Bullet Seeds with Rock-like shells
>Somehow mix Psybeam, Aurora Beam, and Signal Beam into one single beam.

Niggas are gonna TASTETHERAINBOW

>Don't even have a shellder yet
>No prospects of getting a shellder
>Arguing about Shellder
Niggahs, comon

>>28651041
She wouldn't abandon them. But she wouldn't risk her and her friends lives for them.

>>28651082
Do you even sperg?

>>28649958
Pretty sure he meant The MC of Hollow Quest, not the fish girl from this quest.

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>>28651064
But everyone else does.

Have you paid attention to the adult rangers?

All their bases aren't covered at all.

This quest disagrees with your point of view on multiple levels.

>>28651082
Shelder is readily available

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>>28651098
Sorry anon, but you leave me no choice.

Especially because someone else typed the same answer already.

The reason we would get more grafts is because of the passives they bring, not their active abilites. Perfect temperture control. Super Durability. Regeneration.

Like one of the reasons we got remoraids is because they have that super-crit ability.

Shelldar fits into that niche pretty well. We don't really need any of its abilites, just its durability.

Since living through getting pulped by something stronger then us would be nice.

>>28651110
They're not.
No more freebies.
We gotta catch any others we get.
And we haven't even left the Dome once before.

All I'm saying is back up off the rage horse.

>>28650887
>>28650945
>>28650977

If you are worried about speed that means you should be in shell smash mode.


And on the aesthetics issue, we as players haven't made a single decision regarding the characters priorities on that front yet. Not that I don't enjoy the flavor text it has added; it is entirely warranted and kinda cute.

also
Cloyster Helmet
plus the rest of course, but that fucking mental image.

>>28651100
Then regular human logic isn't/wasn't being used when that was thought of.

People don't go around risking lives for trivial shit in the real world. That's why body armor is worn despite being uncomfortable.

>>28651100
is every adult trainer a rocket?
We get a wider choice due to the fact we are a rocket

>>28651140
No we don't. We only have to catch the rare ones.

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>>28651149
A wider choice than GYM LEADERS?

>>28651145
You mean Body Armor like actual body armor that we can wear? and not graft onto our flesh even though it's grossly incompatible?

You nod your head again, smiling with your fang-like teeth at the large man,"It's nice to meet you Mister Gustav!" You grab his large hand that entirely dwarfs your own, his paw forming around it and giving it a gentle shake. It surprises you how careful he is.
What should be crushing strength is actually a delicate though firm grasp. You don't remember anything about your father, though if you had to think of a fatherly feeling, this would be it.

The man kneels down beside you, getting more on the level,"How have you been doing Cerulean?" He smiles through his beard, an inexplicably kind tone to his voice.
The child in you begins to come out more, a giddy smile finding its way upon your face,"Oh, I've been good. I, well, I joined the rockets, and I've been training really hard. Boss says I'm his top trainee."

Gustav chuckles at that like an old friend, or an uncle. "Ah, yes, yes. Giovanni. Good to know that you're working hard." Gustav glances about, checking other people before leaning over by your ear for a whisper.
"Be careful with that man, you hear? He's the scheming sort." Pulling away, his jolly smile returns to his face."I don't expect us to just sit here and chat though, we could speak elsewhere if you'd like. Anywhere you'd like to go?"

>[] Walk around Pallet Central Park.
>[] Take tram to Cerulean.
>[] Take Tram to Rocket Dorms.
>[] Just talk here. You've got other places to go after all.

>>28651149
Have you looked at the adult rockets so far? They aren't exactly walking zoos themselves.

>>28651063
Koga has 3 types beedrill, venonat, and venomoth.

Misty has at least 2 staryus(2 gems one on each shoulder), 2 seakings(2 horns one on each hand), and at least one seadra(probably more than one)

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>>28651144
How the fuck does Shell Smash even work?

It doesn't seem like the kind of thing that's easy to recover from, and doesn't really make sense considering Mr "I'm harder than diamond"

>>28651191
It's a comparison you dumb fuck. People value their lives over EVERYTHING else barring self sacrifice). Despite what movies and video games may have taught you. People don't risk themselves to "look cool"

>>28651207
I have no idea. I would hope for just being able to shed the shell and then grow it back quickly (hell, Cloyster is good to go for the next battle), maybe at the cost of stamina, perhaps with the analog of a withdraw/harden.

>>28651202
>Schemeing sort
Nah, you don't say pops?

I like this guy. Let's take the guy to our dorms and talk on the way. We can at least prepare to take the cake to Lilac...and...maybe offer him some too, if he doesn't devour it in one bite?

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>>28651202
"You haven't been here in a while right?

Is there anywhere you'd like to see first?"

We can go anywhere whenever we want, he presumably will have to leave again soon.

Also might tell us more about him.

>>28651202
>>[] Walk around Pallet Central Park

>>28651202
>[x]I have no fucking clue

>>28651234

Paul Walker would disagree.
Too soon?

>>28651202
>[] Walk around Pallet Central Park.
"Lets take a walk."

>[X] Walk around Pallet Central Park.

>>28651254
We turn away from the fridge, turn back
fridge is gone and gustav is chewing

>>28651202
[X] Walk around Pallet Central Park.

Try climbing onto him and having him carry us around on his shoulders. He might not even notice the weight.

Ask him what it's like up in the tundra, confide in him that we sometimes really miss our mom, ask if she ever talks about us, how she's been doing, tell him about what we've been doing so he can pass it on.

>>28651203
See>>28651145

>>28651202
>>[x] Walk around Pallet Central Park.
The place is kind of peaceful right? Be a comfortable visit. Considering how Cerulean sees Giovanni I could also see her being a little perturbed by his comment about the Boss

>>28651277
"Damn it Gustav!"

>>28651202
>>[] Walk around Pallet Central Park.

show him some greenery!

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>>28651205
I was counting in terms of separate species.

Also, why can't Koga just wear an Everstone bracelet or something instead of rotating out his Venonat grafts?

Seems less wasteful.

You guys are giving me a headache, I'm out, killing us if it really means that much to you.

>>28651294
"I give my compliments to the chef" he'd reply

>>28651202
[X} Central park

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>>28651288
I think we already know he's kind of a scheming sort from how he stacked the deck in our Viridian Forest exam.

Plus he didn't actually say Giovanni is -bad- just that we should be careful around him.

Which I'd say is okay advice, since we noticed he can give off that vibe.

>>28651202
I say we show him the dorm, if the tramride isn't too long. It'll be humorous.

>>28651121
's what you get for posting after work, from a phone, without turning the auto update on. Don't do this.

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>>28651329
Not wanting to have our character be completely flawless and maxed out in every aspect, even if it makes us a hideous freak won't get us killed.

It's that kind of rampant paranoia that is one of the things dragging quests down.

>>28651234

Not the guy you're arguing with, and frankly, I agree with your position...but that statement is absolute bullshit and you know it.

Street and drag racing (see the guy who made the Paul Walker comment).

Doing any of the harder drugs.

Drinking excessively.

Gang members.

Any number of the stupid shit you see kids doing nowadays.

Hell..just read through the Darwin Awards, watch 1000 Ways to Die, or turn on your local news.

People risk their lives doing stupid shit to "look cool" every fucking day...because humanity as a whole has gotten more and more stupid with each passing generation since the '60s.

>>28651343
That's always how I've viewed Giovanni. Never necessarily a bad guy, but opportunistic, and eager to take advantage of stuff that could mean big profits for him.

A shame Team Rocket turn it into a cartoonish villain organization.

And yes, I am aware of the irony of complaining about cartoon villains in a cartoon.

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Bruise's final form

>>28651287
Grafting a shell (which will eventually become spiky as all fuck) to your flesh, permanently, is very different from wearing body armour when it's needed.

Missions seem to resolve around either resource acquisition, recon, extermination, or capture. All of those work better through having higher mobility and abusing repel gear so as not to be noticed at all while you snatch and grab or blast the shit out of the target.

By the time you need ULTRA CLOYSTER ARMOR to tank shit, you've fucked up immensely.

That's not saying that it would never be useful, but it does not jive with the nature of the job as much as people are claiming it does.

>>28651402

OH YEAH!

>>28651298
koga's got both venonat and moth providing different boosts.
>I was counting in terms of separate species.
we have 2.5(we removed the water components from the seel grafts)
Misty has 3, koga has 3.

>>28651402
What happened to his lower arms?

>>28651427
>we have 2.5(we removed the water components from the seel grafts)
We never actually did that. We still have the webbed hands and hydration ability, so seel is still water.

>>28651433
the camera's shutter speed wasn't fast enough to capture them

>>28651409
Right, now hopefully that the Cloyster stuff has calmed down, I wanted to say something serious about future grafts.

We already have our major body grafts, I think. Most, if any of our future stuff should be internal, or barely interfere with the outside, I think. This might be for a certain ability, or what have you.

Sound good to anyone else?

>>28651451
my bad thought that happened when we swapped out the seel water sac for the Remoraid ones

>>28651458
As long as it isn't milotic, I'm good with anything
as I love the idea of Cerulean awkwardly trying to befriend a normy

>>28651458
Depends on if prof tells us superior armor will actually be giving us penalties to some things. Impenetrable ice or shell is pretty attractive.

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>>28651458
To be honest I kind of feel like all our bases are covered.

We're even gonna eventually become airborne when we get Barioth, so I'm not sure what else we really need.

>>28651458
yeah, I'd prefer internal grafting from here on out.

>>28651409

This man gets it.

If you're at the point where you need to start tanking hits.

You've done fucked up.

Rangers are outnumbered, outgunned, and outmatched.

Rangers must rely on speed, stealth, and hitting hard and fast, and then retreating before retaliation comes their way.

Large, bulky armor does not help with that.

Large, bulky armor may aid us in taking a few hits...but we should not be taking those hits in the first place.

That and we've already built for speed and range.

What you're doing is effectively taking a lightweight boxer, one who relies on footwork and speed, and throwing him in a match while wearing Full Plate. Yeah, he's gonna tank some hits....but he's completely out of his element and is taking far more hits than he would have without the armor.

>>28651458
I'm cool with that. Personally I see us more like a glass cannon than a turtle, so the shell idea doesn't fit.

>>28651485
The main one for me, is a goldeen graft to capture Lightningrod, if we could.

Might be worth hunting for, no?

>>28651481
You're Milotic bias is petty and obnoxious. The stamina boost would be awesome,
"It releases a pulsing wave of energy that brings soothing calm to restless spirits. It has the power to becalm such emotions as anger and hostility." Is awesome.
Marvel Scale, Cute Charm, Safeguard.

>>28651523

Your mom is petty and obnoxious

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>>28651485
The only thing I would like cosmetically is either Milotic or Glaceon for hair.

Pretty stuff.

>>28651494
>shellder armor
>Large,and bulky
that's the thing though, it's light weight and harder than diamond

>>28651458
If we can get some sort of rocket booster / jet propulsion in our feet...

That would be awesome.

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>>28651554
Maybe a Frosslass as well, but I'm not really sure how that'd work.

Would it look like we're wearing a silly mask?

You try to his a frown from his comment about Giovanni,"Don't talk about the Boss that way, isn't nice."
Gustav pats your head gently,"Ah right, right. Sorry. Been out in the cold so long it's kind of frozen my noggin."

Under his attention, you can't help but smile again,"Let's go for a walk in Pallet Central Park, I'll show you were it is, come on!"
You grab at his hand and start tugging at him with your tired body as he lets himself be tugged along.
"Alright, alright little Cerulean, lead the way."

THe two of you leave the institute as you carry on telling him about your time as a ranger, the people you've met, and how thinking about mom's gotten you through so much. Gustav, patient and friendly as he is just nods right along listening to it, everything.
When you think you don't have anything left to say about something, he asks a question that gets you going again, realizing that you almost forgot some detail or that there's a whole other story in that one.

Despite just meeting the man, you find him easy to talk to. You can't quite put your finger on it. He's patient, calm, and collect. Maybe it's because he knows mom?

Oh, you need to ask about that.

"So, about my mom."
"Ah, yes. You want to know about that now?" His eyes turn from the gentle foliage that drapes over the arch of trees over the walkways.
Pushing a sleeve up, he reveals an icy blue Index with a distinct red mark upon it. "I've recorded a message for you on my index. I can take one back to your mother as well."

THe man thinks for a moment,"What would you like to know first?"

>[]Where's Mom?
>[] Is she okay?
>[] Is she sending these presents?(Crytten)
>[] Message, now please.
>[] (Other)

>>28651561
that's why I'm fine with having shellder grafts on our legs

>>28651561

....jet propulsion from feet.

...shooting beams from hands and gem in chest...

...armor....

WE IRON MAN NOW

I fail to see why we would get external shellder armor implanted. It's as hard as diamond and lightweight, we could easily make a breastplate out of it to wear. The only thing we lose is the ability to regenerate it, which isn't a problem, because shellders are common and easy to catch.

>>28651577
>>[x] Is she okay?

>[X] Is she okay?
>[X]Where is Mom?
>[X]Message

This order sounds good to me.

>>28651577
>>[]Where's Mom?
>>[] Is she okay?

>>28651523
I'd still follow the quest if we got one implanted, it does seem to fit ceru's personality from what you said. But if we kind one I'm voting for punching it's milodick