Rolled 7

I'll bite. Haven't picked it up yet so color me curious.

>>28044556
Well I'm using a table /tg/ created ages ago back in the Rites of Battle craze: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Battle_Order_Creation_Tables

But since the book is out I figure the SoBs are going to be slightly less ignored than usual.

Sooooo these girls are Order Dialogus.

Another D10 for the Emperor, please.

Rolled 6

>>28044598
Hm. Non-militants. Always a nice change of pace.
Here, another digit in charity, to spread the Word of the Golden Throne.

>>28044623
and they trace their history back to the Order of the Ebon Chalice, which is strange because they are the oldest order militant.

Next in line is why the order was founded. Another d10 for the Emperor if you please.

Rolled 10

>>28044669
Well, I'm sure there's a sanctioned, orthodox explanation for it.

And it appears they were founded for a Crusade. Why you'd want scholars, linguists, and translators on a Crusade is beyond me but clearly someone high up thought this was required for the good of the Imperium.

Another d10 please, this time to for the Order's flaw.

>>28044873
Why to document and spread the Word of the Empra

>>28044910
Clearly.

Hopefully they have some friends along to help with the firepower department since they aren't an Orders Militant - or perhaps they are cunning enough that they can make the best use of what they do have.

Rolled 3

>>28044873

>>28044999
3 - No Mercy, No Respite.

Well I'm not sure what to make of that other than we've got some very, very angry battle nerds here.

A d100 please, so we can figure out who their figure of legend is.

>>28045065
Anger Translators? Perhaps they were created to speak the language of RAGE!!!!

Also, Captcha: birth feticler O.o

>>28045140
Well, when your job is to translate heretical texts and such it's bound to piss you off when you're as Sister of Battle.

>>28045140
And then the Angry marines had their own SoB buddies. Probably because everyone else got tired of trying to figure out what the flying fuck they are saying.

>>28045065

>>28045625
it needs to be 1d100

Rolled 24

>>28045065
dice+d100

Let's try this again...

Rolled 86

>>28045652
Which is a Cannoness Superior who...

>>28045672
who still lives and one day will return in glory.
Huh.

>>28045652
>>28045672
A Cannoness Superior who lives still and may one day return to them in glory.

>>28045693
They're from....

Now it's time to see what their homeworld is designated as and it's dominant terrain.

roll me 2d100 for the Emperor!

Rolled 57

>>28045718
take 2

>>28045739
Seems like it's a Shrine World.

Rolled 59

>>28045724

>>28045884
and it's a damn cold one at that, being dominated by larges stretches of arctic terrain.

A good reason to stay indoors with a nice book on how to best set heretics and xenos on fire.

1d10 for order organization if you please. Let's hope for something interesting.

Rolled 10

>>28045933

>>28045948
Couldn't have asked for anything better. They're unique in how the organize their ranks and follow no precedent unless it suits them.

Another 1d10 to see how they like to engage their foes.

Rolled 10

>>28046034

>>28046043
Terror.

Scary, Angry Librarian Battle Nuns.

Since these sisters are Unique, we go to roll on the special equipment table, which is another 1d10.

Rolled 3

>>28046082

>>28046103
Modified Jump-packs. Nice.

Another 1d10, this time to see what form do the Order's beliefs take?

Rolled 2

>>28046128

>>28046128
I on't understand this.
°Bwooooosh° Hey you fucke! We arehere to tell you to remove your fucking xeno ass from this planet!"
"Gue'la, you surprise me with the knoweledge of our langiage but Ihave to inform you that this world belo..."
"Shut the fuck up, either you are gone in 6 standard time units or people will be coming for your dicks or whatever you blue-berries have instead."
°Bwooosh°

>>28046135
Honour to the Heroine

which probably means at some point we'll need to figure out just why the Cannoness Superior went missing.

which moves us onto the strength of the Order. Another 1d10 please.

Rolled 8

>>28046210

>>28045948
>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Battle_Order_Creation_Tables
op seems to have vanished, but we still have the tables.

So a Ten nets us unique organization, sounds about right for battle scribes.

Now give me another d10 for combat doctrine

Rolled 2

>>28046268

>>28046231
Nominal strength.

A 1d100 to see who likes them.

>>28046209
Given that they like terror tactics and have a good grasp on language, and seem to like mobility as evidenced by the use jump-packs, something tells me this order has got a good grasp on military intelligence.

Rolled 84

>>28046303

>>28046268
the hell are you talking about? I never vanished.

>>28046303
Ok let's see if we are able to make it reasonable for linguists to have jetpacks, besides having them attached to jet packing troops.
It just seems to be a waste of thrones.

>>28046337
Jetpacks help them reach the high shelves

Rolled 6

>>28046231
Nominal.
I'm almost thinking of the Night Lords equivalent of Sisters.
It starts with the air waves and com channels filled with 'Repent Sinners',
litanies appear in the local liturgical language, propaganda inciting the overthrow of the heretical government, firey sermons of fire and brimstone appearing overnight.
You cannot escape it. Worded to worm their way into the minds of the populace, the sisters wage psychological war, cowing their foes into holy dread.
People hurry home fearful that divine justice will come from the shadows.
Industry grinds to a halt.
And then the first sisters appear out of the night sky, descending in a jet pack blaze of glory.
Drop ships with immolators soon follow, laud hailers singing hymns of holy wrath.

And now for allies:

>>28046356
High speed drive by grabbing and whirling paper in the libraray.
Poor serves.

Rolled 58

>>28046319
Using that as foes. 84 yeilds Chaos.
>>28046386
Using the 6 for allies: Arbites.

>>28046319
The order has close ties with the Inquisition it seems.

Another 1d100 to see who doesn't like us.

>>28046268
Second of all, the combat doctrine was terror tactics, Wrenloft rolled a 10 when i asked for that.

>>28046337
Well, they clearly have some manner of combat force given they are on a crusade, descended from an Orders Militant, favor engaging their enemy with terror tactics, and when engaging their enemies give them no respite. And jumppack troops used for terror strikes based on painstakingly gathered intel seems to be sensible.


In other news, I just realized I forgot to roll for both the Orders flaws and the Orders relation to its homeworld. Because I am an idiot.

Rolled 48

>>28046413

>>28046337
They're basically the CIA of the Sisters. They have a large force, but they're mostly organized in order to research, spy, and DESCEND on the enemies of the Imperium.

They're also scary fucking diplomats. I'm seeing them used primarily against human heretics and secessionists, as a force to utterly ruin rebellions.

>>28046419
Tyranids make no goddamned sense here so I'm going with what >>28046410 is saying.

Arbites as their allies and a chaos aligned group as their enemies - likely just being rebels in general because as >>28046420
points out, these are the CIA sisters.

>>28046419
Looks advisory.

Yeah, I'm digging the vibe. Given the dialogous, I think they'd also tend to do propaganda.
'Think on your sins'
And then something explodes.

>the CIA of sisters

What does that even mean?

And now we'll get the things that I missed for some reason or another (I'm betting stupidity).

A 1d10 for the order's flaws and another 1d10 for their relationship to their homeworld and then the rolling will be done.

Rolled 9

>>28046542

>>28046540
They operate like the Central Intelligence Agency of 'Murika.

Rolled 5

>>28046542

>>28046558

That's stupid. Sisters are a military force. They're not the Inquisition, even if they work alongside them.

>>28046545
Seems we're 'unorthodox'.

Huh, perhaps its in how we see divine justice as working?

>>28046572
So maybe their more GRU/Night Lords?

>>28046545
>Bad Ecclessiarch Relations - The Order has deviated from the Imperial Cult in a significant way.
and
>Advisory Role

>>28046572
No, thats only the Orders Militant.

There Orders Dialogus (which is what this order is), Orders Hospitaller, Orders Famulous, Orders Pronatus, and Orders Sabine, none of which are primarly military forces.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adepta_Sororitas#The_Orders

>>28046591
I can agree with that, seeing as how they trace their history or the Order of the Ebon Chalice, which is the oldest of the orders militant.

>>28046576
Or perhaps they are just "too focused" on their Canoness Superior for the Ecclessiarchys liking.

Or perhaps that they disagree on the "know your enemy" part and would prefer they just dive in blindly with no questions asked.

>>28046728
The overly focused on the canoness makes sense, but given the ordo dialogous, I think it makes more sense for them to be uncomfortably familiar with their foes. Sort of like that scientist in Pacific Rim.

>>28046782
I can't imagine that would sit well with most of the administration in the Imperium save for the Inquisition. Though they probably have enough results to show for themselves that an open move against them is either nonviable or no one cars enough to do something about it yet.

Though with them being intelligence specialists, they would probably be able to see any move against them coming a ways off.

So for names...
Order of the Shadows?
Obsidian Mirror?
Watchful Hound?
Silent Owl?

>>28046944
I'm fond of Obsidian Mirror myself.

>>28046950
sounds cool

What if the Canoness Superior vanished off, seeking the Black Library?

So in summary:

The Order of the Obsidian Mirror is of the Orders Digalogus. The order was founded for a crusade and drew many of its initial members from the Order of the Ebon Chalice. Their homeworld is a shrine world dominated largely by cold weather, leaving much of the planet covered in expanses of arctic and subarctic biomes. They don't rule it, they do offer their advice to its government.

While the Order of the Obsidian Mirror is ostensibly non-militant, it none the less posses a fighting force thanks to its specialization in military intelligence, covert action, and psychological warfare and are noted for their use of terror tactics to cow an enemy into submission with minimal effort expended. Given that their modus operandi requires a good deal of knowledge about their enemy, their motives, and their operations combined with their unwillingness to cut corners and do everything methodically they are not viewed well by the Ecclessiarchy; the fact that their organization structure is unique and highly flexible and they put a great deal of veneration into their Canoness Superior who had vanished off to Emperor knows where (they insist she still lives and has not replaced her position) does little to help them in that regard.

Allies: Adeptus Arbites
Enemies: Chaos affiliated rebels/traitor.
Special Equipment: Modified Jump-packs. (I would venture they aren't just changed aesthetically but carry some practical modification to them as well).

>>28047641
That would make a scary amount of sense.

bump

Quick, lets puts them over by the Star Krakens.

>>28049017
Have they un-fucked themselves yet?

>>28049443
I doubt it.

>>28047747
Sister Erilaphia Donatica was the Canoness Superior of the Order of the Obsidian Mirror, bearer of the Book of Ask'ent, a book supposedly written by Sebastien Thor on the nature of Daemons and the Warp, and holder of the Mirror of the Night, was visited one night, by strange figures. Their pale faces contrasted with their lurid clothes. They moved with ethereal grace. Donatica is reputed to have looked up from here desk, having been tirelessly studying the Book of Ask'ent, when the young Sister informed her of the visitors. Donatica is said to have been irritated by the interruption, but when she saw the figures, she went white. The lead figure is said to have declared, in slightly halting Gothic, "We shall perform the Dance. Then you will come with us."

The performance was beautiful, and all were entranced by the fluid movements of these visitors. when it was over, the leader beckoned to Donatica. Donatica grimaced, her legendary stubbornness and loyalty to her sisters nearly overcoming her curiosity. But, as she left with the figures, she said "Fear not sisters, I will return. nothing will stop me."

Perhaps they have been granted access to the Inquisition's vast records regarding torture, interrogation, and methods of achieving repentance. They recite the worst of these methods to the enemy, their strong oratary skill and descriptive prose is mighty enough to break the morale of those humans who turned to chaos for power or greed.

Perhaps the Ecclesiarchy does not appreciate such ancient acts, some of which were invented and implemented by Inquisitors since gone heretical, being learned and memorized by so many, let alone shouted out through loudspeakers to break the enemy.

>>28047747

Obsidian Mirror you say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tezcatlipoca

>>28051299
^_^
Glad someone caught my reference.
--'Thatfag'

>>28051151

Both. Fuck yes.

>>28050946
And also fuck yes. Had intended to quote both.

>>28050946
The Donatican Jump-pack was designed and made at the instigation of Canoness Donatica, it is said, after studying works of tech-prophets. The Jump-Packs have been changed to harness the Omnissiahs true power and wrath, and combined with the Sisters undying faith, creates a howl of such power that all those unclean instantly repent, with some clawing out their own eyes out of horror, and the worst of the heretics, like those traitorous Astartes, even find their bodies completely obliterated under the force of righteous might. Each time the Donatican Jump-Packs leap forward, those who the Chaos Gods have corrupted, quickly make themselves known, through their begging for forgiveness, where the Sisters can ruthlessly despatch those ultimate traitors.

>>28052080
Does nobody else want to fluff these guys out?

Y'know, I'm not sure that the non-militants really belong on there. They wouldn't be descended from a Militant Order, and a lot of the rolls on there are geared towards Militant Orders.

>>28053172
Yeah, but its paramilitary.
Also, I'm in class.

>>28053172
They are the CIA
Which if you know about insurgencies at all the CIA is horridly "militaristic"
They are battle spies
It's cool as shit

>>28053052
Would help, but my english is shoddy.
May their monastary/homebase/whatever is on and island in the middle of a deep black sea that has overfrozen with clear ice?
Continueing the 'obsidian mirror' vibe and all,
and in line with 40k's usual subtleness.
Also I guess for their purpose silent jump-packs would be more in line.
Jump behind enemie lines, torture key figures till you have the information you seek, make an example, jump out.

Wich is why they are viewed as unorthodox; No voxcasters, no flames, no shining light. Thr bring terror into the hearts of those that thought they were above such things.

"Fear is reason."

>>28054960
So we not rolling with what >>28052080 said

>>28055183
I dunno. Silent makes a lot more sense, but at the same time, the whole archaeotech psionic jetpack thing is pretty cool.
But yeah, probably stealth.

>>28055942
Cool. Maybe the old jump packs (seen here>>28052080) could be a weapon they carry as well. A cannon of sorts, that just uses faith, psychic might and the machine spirit to decimate

>>28055942
The black Jump-packs of the Order of the Obsidian Mirror are quite different other jump-packs. Whereas the standard jump-pack is large, bulky and loud, these are small canisters using a combination of lost technology and faith to rise at an unprecedented rate totally silently, that are integrated directly into the power armour, activating at a thought, and as a part of the bearer as any limb. These Obsidian Jump-packs allow the faithful Sisters to arrive quickly and silently to the camp of the heretics, before flushing them out with the psychological warfare that is unleashed upon the unsuspecting traitors

Good to see the thread hasn't vanished since I went to bed.

>>28055942
>>28056092

Who says they can't have both? Surely there would be use for both. The silent jump-packs when it the need for stealth is great and the terror jump-packs when carrying out false flag operations and scaring the fuck out of people.

Also, I had an idea for an emblem. A round disc with bladed teeth around the perimeter. If you will, a mirror made of obsidian that cannot be picked up barehanded without it slicing your fingers off; representing that one can look into the darkness as they do without being armored by faith and guided by the proper knowledge.

>>28051299
I love the Blood Jaguars and all but they already have their own Sisters to go with them. So at the very least, the Order of the Obsidian Mirror may just be a neighbor in their vicinity.

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How's this as a colour scheme for their militant division?

>>28057534
For those few times they actually bother to use easily identifiable colors, I like it. Probably mostly for ceremony.

Anyone else in favor of giving the order a predominantly Russian Far East theme when it comes to names and aesthetics? They're just as much GRU as they are CIA and their homeword is pretty much Siberia.

Zimovkiysk II is the homeworld of the Order of the Obsidian Mirror. It orbits a young class F star near the outer edge of its habitability zone. The world is marginally smaller than Terra but possess the same surface gravity and a similarly strong magnetic field that shields the world from the ravages of it parent star and gas giant neighbors' radiation.

The atmosphere is ideal for human life, though the average temperature of the world hovers only barely above the freezing point of water. Only the equatorial regions are free of permafrost year round and experience a moderately warm summer. The sub-tropics and mid-lattidues are generally covered with taiga and boreal woodlands, though due to the planets intensely active geology, volcanic springs are plentiful and act as oases of life throughout the frigid landscape that dominates the vast majority of the planet.

The planet is inhabited by nearly a billion souls, however most of them are transients moving through the trade route the system sits along, pilgrims that have come to visit many shrines and cathedrals that dominate the wintery land scape, and wealthy nobles wishing to partake in the reputed rejuvenating powers the more blessed springs are believed to have. The world is peaceful, thanks in part due to the extreme effectiveness of the local Adeptus Arbites "lead" by the Order of the Obsidian Mirror.

the thread has been archived for those that care

>>28049017
Why?

>>28049443
>>28049469
We've pretty much unfucked ourselves unless something new has come up. I don't think there is a current thread.

>>28057215
I'm not a fan of the lost technology angle, particularly the psychic faith cannon mentioned about the terror jump-packs.

>>28059585
Oh if it's lost tech then fuck that. There are plenty of ways to create terror without resorting to some manner of wacky psychic terror jump pack.

Stealth jump-packs is where it's at. Even though stealth wasn't rolled for the combat doctrine, it's still a means to an end and not know who your enemy is or how they are attacking you is terrifying as fuck. Bombings, snipers, abductions, and such should all be common tactics they use. And of course turning their enemies against themselves.

>>28059487
I think it was because there someone in a star krakens thread trying to tie other stuff in to them.

>>28060193
Someone tries to pull in our other homebrew occasionally, but nothing went through. Unless someone has been changing the 1d4chan page arbitrarily again.

As for the jump packs I think we should keep it just to the stealth jump-packs.

so it seems there's a good deal of agreement in the stealth jump packs and a general method of sowing terror by means of stealth, subterfuge, and superior intel.

>>28060549
What next?

>>28060596
Well at this point it largely comes down to people being willing to throw out ideas for fluff and such.

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>>28060549

The CIA with nothing holding them back from being terrifying.

And also they are driven by faith and hatred.

I like it.

I actually made a space marine chapter a bit like this, a doomed chapter focused on terror, fire, and guerilla tactics on a planet taken over by chaos rebellion.

>>28060596
A LOVE OF FINE EXPLOSIVES.

>>28060655
Despite being based on a shrine world, the actual fortress covenant is completely isolated from anyone not directly involved in the Order's activities. Located on a small sub continent surrounded by ocean, the fortress is protected by miles of minefields, and towering rings of walls bristling with weaponry both terrestrial and orbital. On the island itself massive domes hide the Sister's activities from prying eyes located in the sky's above.

>>28060892
I imagine most of that space and defenses is purely for training purposes. After all, how can you learn without good field training.

There may even be several of sites like that for mock battles.

>>28060951
Nah, the island itself and its defenses are specifically designed to make sure nothing is able to infiltrate the fortress. Basic training exercises are held in simulated environments under the domes, with advanced training occurring in special facilities around the planet forbidden to the populace.

>>28061175
Makes sense. Naturally the thing they are most worried about is someone with their own skill set so that sounds a like a good way to keep such foes out.

>>28061211
>Security code authenticated. Please utilize the authorized flight plan and landing facility. Failure to do so will result in your craft being destroyed.
>Please make your landing within the allotted timeframe. Failure to comply can result in your craft being destroyed.
>Once you have landed please remain in your craft until security teams are in place and your security codes are vetted. Failure to comply may result in incarceration and interrogation, confiscation of property, and/or execution.
>Failure to comply with given specifications on passengers and cargo is subject to incarceration and interrogation, confiscation of property, and/or execution.

>>28061175
could make it even more harsh by putting it one of the poles so it's cold enough that most equipment that isn't specialized to deal with the extreme cold has problems and surrounded by miles and miles of ice that's been swept bare by the gale force winds.

>>28061372

Geeze, I'm just going to fly somewhere else then.

>>28061465
You don't want it too inhospitable since requiring specialized equipment means you're at a disadvantage as well. But I like your idea, perhaps a secondary facility in case of war.

>>28061522
True. Though as Order Dialogus I don't think they'd have such an obviously displayed fortress loaded with military hardware.

They may keep an isolated prison on a polar island, probably buried deep beneath the surface. Given they like to accumulate data, I doubt that most prisoners they take would be executed on the spot, which is probably more of the norm in other Orders. Death is of course a mercy to anyone who gets dragged into there.

>>28061753
It's the only really significant military facility on the planet and is geared entirely for defensive warfare.

>>28061753
Rura Penthe anyone?

>>28062742
You caught me.

Subcommander Tybalt adjusted his lapel pin one final time before stepping out onto the podium. As much as he was concerned for Baltae’s health, Lord Baltae, despite being the popular figure head of the faith, was less the people person. Tybalt, on the other hand, relished the crowd. He looked out at the masses, and up at the monument of faith, newly completed behind him. He felt a surge of joy at the thought of his eternal master and the majesty of the holy one.
“My friends, Mordrii, brethren. Today we have completed a great step in securing the domain of he who lords over all. Today we have taken another step in our crusade.
What is behind me is not simply the largest icon of faith ever constructed in our system, but also the a key component of the planetary defense grid. With it, we are now safe from Imperial reprisal. Our Lord Khorne watches over us from his skull throne.
Death to the False Emperor!
Blood for the bloo...”
The cry died on his lips as the blood drained from his face.
The voxes set up in the square before the icon of the bloody one began an earsplitting shriek. The screens behind him went static.
Frantically Tybalt made motions to cut the feed, but it was too late.
On the screens appeared the aquilla, the shrieks of the voxes resolved into a baritone “Think on your sins”.
Silence.
The feeds turned to shots of the icon from the air, though Tybalt could see no aircraft in the area.
“Think on your sins,” resounded a second time, before a bell tolled.
There was a horrendous explosion behind Tybalt, who turned to see the icon’s floors beginning to collapse upon themselves.

>>28063189

The next few hours were a fiasco. The broadcast had been seen worldwide. Resistance movements were suddenly again active in regions thought pacified. Or perhaps they had been, he thought, remembering the piles of heads he’d had made. The fear of death had quelled the partisans, but now they seemed to wish it. They threw themselves at the military, as if to exhaust bullets with bodies.
Reports were coming in that regional commanders were going missing or being found headless, the sign of the aquilla carved into their bodies.
As a result, it was with great gladness that Tybalt got into bed, a respite for a few hours. The reprisals would gladden the blood god.
It was then that he noticed a lump on the bed. He squinted at it.
Baltae’s lifeless eyes stared up at him.
“Think on your sins.”

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>>28063189

Bitchin.

The water caste diplomat had been sitting in the café for longer than he thought he would, his contact form the imperial bulk grain transport was late but not extremely so. This was how he served the Tau Empire, meeting with riffraff and space trash, gleaning tidbits of information about shipping patterns, commodities shortages, troop movements and fleet postures. Paying informers and sneaks, men who were motivated by petty greed rather than the Greater Good. This man had sent a message through channels saying he had something big and demanding ten times his normal payment, and now the man had the gall to be late. Slightly enraged, the tau emissary beckoned for the server to order another drink, as he did so he noticed the three women entering the restaurant. They were seemingly not different from the thousands of spacers coming and going on the space station but something slightly unnerved him about them. Again beckoning for the server the Tau stopped mid-gesture as two of the women moved to cover the exits while the third made a direct path for him. “Good afternoon Xeno, we have much to discuss”

>>28060655
The Order of the Obsidian Mirror deviates from standard Order structure in several important ways.
As a crusading Dialogous Order, they focus far more on commando tactics than the average Order. Sisters often train along side Blood Jaguars ‘Jungle Wraiths’ and Raptor Sniper cadres.
Senior amongst these guerillas is Molyotov Samsonova, known for her fondness for explosions, playing the femme fatale in infiltration missions and cybernetic eye.
In the field, the Sisters often deploy in cell structure, allowing them to operate autonomously behind enemy lines, sabotaging, assassinating, and stirring up resistance movements.
This is not to say that they cannot take the field overtly, in fact many campaigns end with a sudden brutal assault.
Due to their faith that Canoness Superior Donatica will return, they instead have a Canonical Council.
Sister Superior Alzbeta Batoriova leads the military wing and is known for her bloody and ruthless tactics. She is sometimes known as the Bloody Canoness.
Sister Superior Grushenka Doevstoy is head of the intelligence division, though she will sometimes descend to the field of battle, skilled both in the holy weapons and in firey oratory.
Further, squads are often joined by analyist-propagandists (The Sinsheny), who both provide motivation and intelligence (so basically what the table top portrays as Ecclesiarchy priests).

As often as not, they work in tandem with Inquisitors, particularly Radicals from Ordo Xenos and, of course, Ordo Hereticus.

Penitent Engines are not filled with failed lapsed sisters, but instead with reformed prisoners. The Order tends to make use of lots of arco-flagellants and Penitent Engines, but comparatively Sisters Repentia.

Thoughts? -- Feel free to expand/alter/etc

>>28063749
YES!
CAN WE HAVE A COLD WAR SPY VS SPY BETWEEN THE TAU INTELLIGENCE SERVICE AND THE OBSIDIAN MIRRORS?!!

"Knowledge is power. The tool through which we obtain that power is the question. When used in the right place, at the right time, by the right hands with the right effort it's rewards are immeasurable. When used without responsibility, without restraint, and without training, it can only spell disaster."

"The difference between beneficial inquisition, idle curiosity, and malicious doubt is one beyond the ken of most men and women. To deny those precious few who can is to deny the Inquisition the tools of its trade."

"Just as there are many types of ores, there are many types of faithful. For many, when heated by fervor and then quenched by curiosity, they become brittle and crumble. There are those, however, that become stronger and sharper for their trials when quenched. It is these souls that can be tempered into the weapons of our Order."

>>28063913
Tenocit is a good planet to practice their trade on, though I think that as a rule of thumb, they will seek to learn from the best at any field the have an interest in rather than having some sort of special relationship with the Blood Jaguars.

Or the alpha legion

>>28064349
Nonsense. There is no such thing as the Alpha Legion.

>>28063913
One strategy that has earned them the title of The Terror of [insert minor segmentum here] is that the most loyal and faithful sisters pretend to fall and join the hordes, only to slowly demoralise every single person there, with brutal killings that make even World Eaters and Night Lords recoil, burning residences, leaving terrifying notes, and finally, unleashing apocalyptic noises, using information gathered, that reminds every single heretic of their worst nightmares, driving them to tears and suicide, begging for their sins to be forgiven. Then, and only then, will the brave Sisters reveal themselves, and quickly execute the leaders, and then purge the unclean below. It is in this fashion that a small cell of 20 sisters have wiped out a warband numbering thousands.

>>28064349
Imagine it
>Imperial war
>Alpha Legion cult makes their move lead by one of the few Alpha Legion Marines that were able to infiltrate the planet.
>Their operation is about to begin the Marines stand tall as they address their cultist followers.
>Entire time they are speaking someone is silently cutting a hole in the ceiling.
>Suddenly half the cultist group stands up mid speech and turns their weapons on the other cultists.
>Bolter rounds from above cripple the marines.
>Silent hiss of a jetpack landing as the sisters land to join in on finishing off the cultist traitors.
>Entire operation was a honey pot trap for Alpha Legion, half the cultists were loyalist all along.
And so the Hydra's stump was scarred by flame.

Welp. These are pretty much the most bad ass sisters ever.

>>28047747
Blacklight Pattern Jump packs are a wonder of rediscovered technology, using an extremely small and completely silent grav generator to propel a Sister skyward, and even allow her to hover in position for short periods or slow a long fall. It is most commonly used by the Obsidian Mirror as a form of stealth airborne insertion, with equipped sisters jumping from stealthed or "Q" civilian transports in HALO (High Altitude Low Open) and LALO (Low Altitude Low Open) operations. It is also capable of short "burst" jumps, allowing a Sister to rapidly traverse vast stretches of distance with a mix of sprinting and power-jumping.

While powerful, the Blacklight jump pack is not powerful enough to enable the performance of the vaunted Celestines, nor is it anywhere near capable of getting an Astartes off the ground. It is however, completely silent and has an emission signature so low that it is indistinguishable from background radiation, making it perfect for the missions preferred preferred by the Order of the Obsidian Mirror.

>>28059171
>D'oh! typed "preferred" twice. What I get for not having enough coffee before engaging my brain for the day. Curse you Sailor Jerry, I did nothing to warrant this treatment from you.

>>28067176
And then I quote the wrong post. Moving on...

>>28057574
Think Obsidian Mirror Sisters/Operatives would even don the colors of another Order to infiltrate them? After all, the most dangerous threats con from directions you think impossible, and what you don't know can indeed kill you.

I can see them as being really disliked, even hated, by other Orders just from /rumors/ of this being done, since it's never come to light one way or another. Just the operational distrust and dislike of intelligence/black ops services by "proper frontline soldiers."

Sister Yketrina managed to leave the cell and seal the door behind her before her shock overtook her and she sunk to the floor, incredulous and, though she’d never admit it, terrified.
From when they’d captured Subject H, she’d known that they were gazing into the depths, but she’d fallen into the obsidian pool of unwanted knowledge.
She’d been part of the Divisio Hydra operation that had captured Subject H, remembered the elation. It had been the first successful operation in the three centuries of attempts and the particular mission had taken years and involved hundreds of agents, infiltrators, false double agents, and analysts. The only other operation of similar difficulty was the on-going Operation Lion, but that was only because the former 1st Legion was so guarded and powerful. Fighting the Hydra, on the other hand, was layer upon layer of subterfuge, and even then the enemy usually was able to commit suicide before they could be questioned.
It had taken months of work to get anything out of him but ‘I am Alpharius’, new techniques adapted from interrogating the cultists to get details of the cell. But even then, she couldn’t shake the feeling that something was being held back, so onwards Yketrina pushed. She convinced him that 2 and 2 was 5, that there were five lights on the ceiling. She began getting bits of personal life, childhood memories, stories of operations long past in a stream of babbling from the nearly broken rogue astartes, but still there was something Subject H was hiding.

>>28069088

It had taken a while to find compounds that would interfere with the astartes nervous system, but they’d finally done it. At first she’d been afraid that they’d not work, so slowly did they take effect.
Then came the wild sounds of hallucination and then did she begin the interrogation. It was slow going, but the truthseer acknowledged that boundary was gone.
She wasn’t sure what she’d expected, but it had certainly not been this:
“It was for The Emperor, it has always been for The Emperor.”

>>28059340
Does it update with the thread

>>28072398
It checks for new updates periodically.

>>28067401
Well the dice did give us a bad relationship with the Ecclessiarch.


Anyone else think that the Order of the Obsidian Mirror would keep amnesiacs on hand so anyone that does delve too deep into the realms of unwanted knowledge can be brought back from the brink?

Hey /tg,

I'm looking for the ebook versions of Sentinels of Terra, Adeptus Sororitas, Blood Angels, and Space Marines if anyone has a link.

Also, thoughts on Raven Guard and a 1500 point all comers list based around shrike, scouts, and scout bikers for the moment?

>>28073032
How do you mean? Like they'd forget things on a trigger and would stop dictating once they realized they'd gone to far? Sort of like saving your game?

I have a bunch of old metal minis of the Sisters that I never painted. I may actually finish the job now that they have an updated Codex, but I don't know anything about how to play them.

>>28078341
Hordes of sisters with priests to buff them in cc, immolator spam, and exorcists.

If you wanted to do them as Obsidian Mirrors, I'd advise Penitent Engines and Arcoflaggelants and model the priests as Sister Dialogous/Sinsheny.
Oh, and outflanking Dominions in Immolators, but that's something you'd always want to do. (I don't think Seraphim fit the stealthy vibe, even though they do have jet packs, whereas outflanking seems like an ambush technique.)

>>28078608
Are all of the old minis still applicable?

>>28078649
I think so, yeah.

>>28078315
I was thinking more like if someone learns something they aren't deemed "ready" to learn they have retro-grade amnesia inducing drugs so they don't have to kill the sister/agent in question so they can save their investment. Not laser guided amnesia of course, this is the kind of thing that would wipe out the last few months or weeks depending on the dosage followed by some therapy to help get them back on their feet and ready to work again.

Also this can help when it comes to debriefing from sensitive operations, like infiltrating chaos cults and such. I imagine the sisters that come back would be more than happy to report everything to a superior trusted to handle the information and then forget anything that could later jeopardize their sanity/mental well being.

>>28079373
Ah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense, though I think the Inquisition makes use of such things canonically already.
Still, as a policy it seems like a pretty cool way to go about it, as it makes them dangerously genre savvy.

>>28079446
Considering their poor relationship with the Ecclesiarchy, they need to be dangerously genre savvy to not get wiped of the map.

Though the Inquisition probably loves the Order, because there's a very short supply of people who specialize in this sort of thing.

>>28079539
>>They'd need to be dangerously genre savvy
Good point. And yeah, I may have to consider investing in some Sisters and that new Inquisitor Codex.

What do you think of them having a love/hate relationship with Alpha Legion? If there's any group that would have the ability to figure them out, it would be these Sisters.
On the one hand, it gets into fanwank very quickly, but on the other, it only makes sense.
In any event, I'd think they'd find Alpha Legion unwholesomly interesting. (Because they're basically the only other people on their level. Except Eldar, some Necrons, and perhaps Tau Water Caste spies.)
What might be cool would be for them to suspect that Alpha Legion is secretly loyal but not be certain.

>>28079923
They'd probably keep knowledge of the Alpha Legion restricted to only the most proven of their ranks. Those that look TOO deep into the dark without something to pull them back tend to vanish into it.

I personally like the idea of the Alpha Legion being secretly loyal, but I would not assume that to be universal among them as the toll of keeping their cover has taken its toll on some of them.

Though having an Alpha Legion marine who is a loyalist kept in their version of Rura Penthe would be cool. He's kept there for his own protection, because I doubt any other organization save for Radical Inquisitors would stand for that sort of thing. Thought that may be a little much.

>>28079998
Well, even if they did have one ala that writefag's Subject H, they'd still not be certain that it wasn't just an Alpha Legion ploy. Equally, if not all Alpha Legion is loyal, they've still got problems. Equally, Alpha Legion probably does do some stuff that does harms the Imperium if only to protect their villain cred in the Eye of Terror.
But it really comes down to a question of if you're willing to see it as Grimdark or not.
Anval Thawn's immortality can be seen as a curse.
Draigo's actions can be read as completely meaningless and thus /grimdark/.
The Tau being idealistic in a universe where that only gets them screwed can be pretty depressing.
Sure, some of our girls know the truth about Alpha Legion, but they're not sure. Their terrified to act on it, but terrified not to. And there's no-one they can turn to for advice.

>>28080087
I do like that. A lot.

>>28080115
I suppose at this point we leave it to the consensus of the anons to say what they think and wait for write/draw/wikifags and ideas?

(In any event, if/when I figure out how to get a force of sisters without having to sell my soul, I'll put the pictures up.)

>>28080213
Think the Sig-Int division has massive servitor farms to sift through the data they get from wire-taps? I mean there'd be too much to go through by hand and I'd think they'd be monitoring everything they could. Or perhaps they just get data passed on from the local Arbites precincts and only look closer if something piques their interest or, more typically, are called in by Arbites or Inquisitor?
Similarly, with Xenos, perhaps it gets relayed to them from fleets/Inquisitorial listening posts?

--That or maybe there isn't much of that sort of thing going on, as Eldar would communicate psychically, Necrons probably have crazy encryption methods, and Nids, Chaos, and Orks don't have anything worth listening to. So really, it just means listening in on the Imperial citizen and the Tau.

I dunno, thoughts?

>>28044523
you idiots are so fucking stupid for buying the new GW dogshit

you're the same fucking morons who buy hats

>>28067401
Actually I can think of a reason why they would wear another order's colors and why they would be in trouble with the Ecclesiarchy.

They did in fact start off as Order Dialogus but over the course of the crusade they were on they began to not only translate the enemy's language but they began to pick apart the enemy's battle plans. The more they learned the more they figured out how to get into their heads and work against them.

And then when they did get a taste of battle they found that the knowledge they had learned had made it so they could understand how the heretic and how the alien would fight.

Basically one thing lead to another and eventually they're using all of this knowledge to infiltrate their ranks and turn their enemies against each other.

Basically the Ecclesiarchy is annoyed because they tried to create a chapter that was a bunch of Librarians and speakers and instead they created CIA nuns.

They might wear other colors as a way to get around it by pretending it isn't them.

>>28081775
"Yes right this way we will show you exactly what our future scribes are preparing their skills.."
Tortured scream of interrogation in the background because someone opened the wrong door.
"What was that?"
"Just ignore that one of our sisters must have destroyed something so heretical that it made her scream."
"But it was a male voice."
"Sister Horace has a deep voice."

>>28081516
I think that having servitor farms to sift between data is likely, but only when they are interested in the world for whatever reason (Arbites or the Inquisition requested it, following up on some other lead, etc).

As for their targets, the Imperium is a huge place and there's also the threat of rebels so there is always going to be a need to spy on them. And yeah, they probably get called to fuck with the tau.

>>28069097
I actually felt bad for the legionnaire and the sister.
nice work.

>>28081516
While Orks may not have anything worth listening to, they are worth talking to. By using cleverly crafted messages, the Sisters of the Order can easily manipulate Orks against each other or direct them in a more pleasing direction.

I can't imagine it'd be difficult to trick a Warboss that there's another Warboss who thinks he's bigger and badder trying to challenge him. Get enough Orks to believe it and it'll probably make itself come true.

>>28083489
For the record, I am now imagining a Sister painted green swaggering up to a warboss in an Ork camp.

Been away on a work thing and totally missed the digital codex coming out, any chance someones got a link to the inevitable pdf?

>>28084850
Think we've find a tg adversary.

>>28081775
That makes a lot of sense and explains the big whole in the story.
Perhaps Donatica was someplace and the order militant they were attatched to had their command structure wiped out and she took command as the ranking Sister. That or she was running comms and didn't tell anyone that their Canoness was dead, fearing that they'd lose faith if they knew their living saint was dead. As such, she directed the entire battle from a command rhino using the Dialogus network. The only people on the ground who knew what was going on were the other sisters of the Obsidian Mirror embedded in the Sisters Militant squads. To this day, that Order Militant refuses to work with the Order of the Obsidian Mirror.

The Obsidian Mirror often uses their livery for cover.

>>28088749
Send Sisters over. Quitely. Purge.

>>28082691
The sister now knows the deepest darkest secret of some of the Alpha legion, that some of them deep down were on their side all along.

Yet there is no way she can ever convince the Imperium that, and even if she could she would know that if the Alpha legion really were in super deep cover in Chaos while being loyal all along, letting the secret out would completely blow their cover and most likely hurt the Imperium, what's more even she cannot even be sure it is the whole truth.

And seeing how their line of work would put them up against the Alpha legion again and again, each time they have to wonder if when they kill a member of the Alpha legion are they killing a bunch of traitors or they are killing a bunch of Loyalists who are forced to act as traitors.

That's Grimdark.

>>28083489
"We not even the fighting humees you know why you don't get the fightin Humees because you aren't da bestest Ork dat other one the bestest!"

We need more help with this it seems.

>>28093760
What do we need at this point?

I was going to type up a summary and put it here, but I wasn't sure where to stick the writing. Advice?
If none in like 30 minutes, I'll make a wiki page and link to it. (Assumption being that with everything coalated it'll be easier to see where we want to go and for people to get involved.)

>>28095119
That sounds like a good idea. Also this thread is pretty damn old and tends to drop off the front page extremely quickly, so after a wikipage has been made and stuff collected and summarized it would be prudent to make a new thread tonight or tomorrow or so.

>>28095180
Ta-Da!
I'll begin inputting stuff.
Feel free to join in.

>>28095460
Oops.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Obsidian_Mirror