Thread II. Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lamia%20Legacy%20QuestFire, a burning village, a sense of duty and a hint of... disgust? This is a dream, you know that much. So very similar to a one that kept reoccurring throughout your childhood, sometimes it was just a bright inferno, being dragged along to where you know not, other times, it was a frantic escape before being surrounded by seven shadowy figures before you woke. This time? You see a torch in the hand of the lead shadow and it appears they have found something. A known face, younger, holding a bundle, your father is about to be set upon by these beings, you try to cry out to warn him when six gunshots go off...You wake to the smell of roasting venison. Poking your head out of the nest of bedrolls and blankets you see McCain tending the fire, it is not the crack of dawn, but you still see the last remnants of morning frost fading along the hills. Its been five days since you set out to survey the property you found yourself in the possession of, and decide that the first task would be to mark it off as best you could.
>>28004030This means that every hundred meters or so along the ridge line, McCain has been driving six foot stakes into the ground while you mark out the spot for the next one after double and triple checking your bearing with the rough map that outlined the rough edges of your property. It was a fairly simple, if tedious, task and you feel slightly disappointed that you did not find anything when you rounded the rear part of the valley. One point of curiosity however, is that it appears that the River must end on your land, as it does not appear to have an entrance point you've seen. You shiver visibly as you remember the large glacial run off that seeped down the rear eastern side of the valley, gladly expending some of the heating charms you purchase to battle the bitter cold."Well miss," McCain says while facing away from you. "From the rustling of those blankets I'd say you are up. Get some food in you and take a look at what I found." You slither towards the fire, trying to resist basking in the dry heat as he turns to look at you, "Look down and to the right and tell me what you see." You follow where he is pointing and see a familiar arrangement of buildings."Home." You say with a smile."Indeed, now lets finish off marking the property line and we'll get out of these highlands." He drawls, grabbing more of the sticks and untying Greenbriar's lead, "I've had about enough of the chilly nights for a few days."
>>28004039After eating a oddly tasting breakfast(McCain by his own admission is not a great cook, but its still edible.) it only takes you a bit of time to mark off the property before you tie in with the ranch lands. A short while later you are opening the door to the house and placing your pack in your room. As you come out, McCain is sitting in the foyer maintaining his revolver and rifle. "So what's the plan now Miss Masterson? If you're gonna get back in the cattle business, we've got a few days before we need to get to Riverport and get some new stock. Sooner we get there the better stuff we have. If we miss it now it'll be a year or so 'till the market opens up again, I mean we could talk to the other ranchers about buyin' cattle but that'd be more trouble than its worth in my opinion."Plan of action?>Short quick jaunts into the valley to see what is inside, then head to the auction for the best quality.>More detailed search of the property, catch the auction on the last days.>Other.Feel free to brainstorm ideas here if you want McCain's thoughts on them.
>>28004055Short quick juantsThe Valley will always be there. And how much money do we have?
>>28004055Can we get our land highlighted on the map?
>>28004055Ask McCain what he thinks is in the valley
>>28004425Same person btw
>>28004055It's a little early to run, there's not going to be much traffic
>>28004409You have about 10,000 Isen's left after selling your cattle stock at 25 isen's a head, most of the sales going to treat your father and to finish your education. >>28004417The box. Don't mind my terrible MSPaint editing
>>28004055>Short quick jaunts into the valley to see what is inside, then head to the auction for the best quality.I gotta think that getting a decent start is too important to risk. If picking the shorter route is the wrong choice, well we've missed out on a bonus, but oh well. If the longer route is wrong, we could get stuck with shit.
>>28004591How much cattle could that buy?
>>28004656We can always explore again once we get back. Planned on doing that anyway Need to scout for res and possible town locations
>>28004663Depends on the seller. Riverport is the big seller town all the ranches on the southern continent head to, and that can range anywhere from 10 to 20 a head for quality cattle. UFK proper is where the big money on beef comes from and where it is the most expensive. (Sailing barges can mark up the cattle upwards of 50-60 a head.)>>28004586I figured, but it was either this or next week with the way my schedule has been going.
>>28004055>>More detailed search of the property, catch the auction on the last days.
>>28004803Ask McCain how many head of cattle he thinks is reasonable
So seems consensus seems to be short quick jaunts, and asking McCain about what he thinks is in the valley, and some tips on ranching? Is that so?
"What do you think is in the valley?"McCain responds with a shrug, "Don't rightly know. That river's gotta go somewhere, could be coming from a spring but...""Only way is to go and find out?" He smirks, "Exactly.""And lets say I get back into the cattle business? How many head of cattle do you think is reasonable?" Here he frowns. "Well I don't know how much you got left after the last sale, but we had a small herd then, so starting up with what you have is going to be a challenge. Won't be anything close to one of the bigger name ranches for a few years unless we find a way to get more than thirty five hundred head." Some quick mental math tells you, that even at the cheapest, best you can do with your remaining funds is a thousand, with nothing left over in case of an emergency. Putting that idea on the backburner, you think of how to go about exploring the property.""Short quick jaunts would probably be best. That way at least we can get to the auction to get proper cattle, with the land we have, it would be pretty easy just to let the herd build up a while." He nods, "That's what I was thinkin' too miss, though if we are gonna get back in the cattle business, we had better be looking for new hands as well. I don't relish the thought of being the only one to deal with all that cattle."
oh fuck this thing is already running when I wake upHope I didn't miss anything big
>>28005484"Either way, are we going to keep looking 'round the land today? We got a more than a few hours of daylight still."Where to start your exploration?>Follow the river, see where it goes.>East side of the valley>West side of the Valley
>>28005525>Follow the river, see where it goes.Everyone knows things happen along the river.
>>28005525I had been meaning to suggest following the river to the source when this thread started, but I was asleep. Do please follow the river.Too bad it's too cold to swim in. Everything's too cold.
>>28005525RiverI'm saying we get 500 head this year and like 2 hired hands, just start small and we can put our efforts into exploring the rest of our lands. Then depending on what we find we shall move from there. Cause we don't want tolim ourselves to just the cattle buibusiness
anyway, after exploring river, we should make it back and purchase SOME cattle. We don't need a full thirty five hundred, just enough for a profit stream and to sustain a few farm hands. We'll buy more next year when we're more flush and explored.Is this sounding like our plan?
>>28005638I would say 500 is a good number
>>28005670Why not an even 1k?
>>28005638It is really gonna be difficult to show the exploration with the shitty (no offense) maps. No that they're bad now it's just in get the feeling you won't be the greatest at details and whatnot
>>28005805He said that 1k would take all of our money and leave nothing left to pay help, or for gear, or for emergencys
>>28005832I wonder what we could use for a mount when (inevitability) go exploring in the mountains to the south. Or if a mount will even be feasible. I wonder if the mountains go all the way to the southern coast or if they drop off into plains/forests. OP, would the mountains being about at the equator be an accurate guess?
>>28005818>be guy who MSpaints mapsI know they're shitty!I had planned on adding details as we went further into the valley, but apparently it was boxed off! This means I'll have to make a jumbo-scale explora-map!>>28005981>what should we use as a mountClosest we have is a wagon, which won't work perfectly offroad. We need to find like, some giant desert beetles or something. We could totally ride a giant desert beetle, if it was big enough. Or a sand worm.
>>28005981Equator is roughly on the coast and is more in the ocean than anything else. There are a few island chains between the southern continent >>28006072Apologies, it was a matter of scale. The valley doesn't dip between the mountains, its not a pass deeper into the continent, just nestled into two ridgelines descending from the large mountain mass.
>>28006093well, I thought it -might- have been a mountain pass, so I left the possibility open. Still means I need to work on a more-zoomed-in valley only map. We can return to the other one when we exit valley.
>>28006072*between the southern continent and the ufk that are tropical. Wheras the Riverport and Snakes Landing are Louisiana Bayou and Florida Everglades type climate respectively.Don't know where that part went.
>>28006072I would suggest using something like fireworks. And we ain't in the desert, and we probably won't for most of the quest. I would suggest either a mountain goat or a Nightmare
>>28006132neither of those are really big enough to carry us on their own, we'll still need to use the cart. Still, better'n slithering. We're going to meet the land buying elf when we visit auction, yeah?
>>28006206Ain't no elf doing the buying, McCain's the elf.>>28006111If it were a pass, the UFK would would have made a very generous offer to your father. They are damn interested in what lies beyond that mountain range.
>>28006206I would say visit him to see what he is offering and what he is up to, but we aren't selling
Anyway, now that decision making is done>nest of bedrolls and blanketsAh, that makes me slap knee. We probably take many, many bedrolls.
>>28006206I was thinking a giant mountain goat, but with a nightmares strength we could easily wrap around it. Though it isn't the ideal animal. Maybe a giant mountain spider? I have no clue
>>28006345Gosh, we probably just throw it down into a heap and just dive in and get comfy
>>28006361I've been thinking some kind of bug-a-ly mount, yeah. Mostly because the extra legs generally means they're more wide, which means more room for us to sit atop of the thing.>>28006379Fucking great. It's too cold, we'll be in the pile.
>>28006420Yeah, it's gonna be sitting instead of riding no matter how you look at it. We would only really use it for transportation and a mobile platform. Though as light as insects are, armoring them wouldn't reduce their mobility much, especially with light stuff. It would really be more of a battle companion than a steed. Though this is assuming we can find one. We should ask about exotic steeds/animals when in riverport
>>28006528good plan, we'll ask around. Though, we probably won't find anything. We'll have to find our own giant mountain spider. Capture it too- no stabbing it with our enchanted sword to save our friend. Different story entirely that one is.
>>28006593Actually it would be shoot it but yeah. Do we get a bonus on interactions due to our heritage and growing up on a ranch?
>>28006731Animal interactionsBut yeah capturing our own is probably the only way. And I imagine spiders would do pretty good in mountains... Oh shit, we're gonna meet some dwarves aren't we?
"May as well find out where that river leads, if it isn't through the valley its got to end somewhere, right? "McCain nods and heads out, presumably to swap horses as Greenbriar has been with you in the highlands the whole time you were marking your territory as it were.You restock on some supplies, while keeping the small cartography kit in your pack, you opt to leave behind the heavier surveying equipment, as there is no way you can do any serious note taking on the course of the river in the time you have left today. As you head out of the house, you see McCain saddling up Traveller and before long you are off. Following the meandering course of the river into the woodlands. You note how broad but relatively shallow the river is here, and ever so often you take soundings of depth, noticing it seems to get deeper the further in you go. After a short while you encounter a slight rock face and a miniature waterfall, though you note that despite the increasing elevation, the water appears to be increasing in tempurature ever so slightly. at first you attribute it to acclimation to the cold, but the further you go, see off in the distance, a mass of steam. Heading towards it yields a tributary feeding into the river proper, terminating at a larger body of water full of what is, for all intents and purposes, a hot spring.Roll me 1d20, lower is better, best of 3
>>28006760Oh jeez, with the size and density of these mountains in would be surprised if we didn't
Rolled 14>>28006769>geothermic springsWelp. I know where we're building a new business on. And the business we'll be frittering away our money going to.Mark it down as super important.
Rolled 8>>28006769Looks like we found the location for our town. Rolling for enemies
Rolled 5>>28006769taking another roll because time.
>>28006865>>28006822>>28006803>5 You a hear a howl, not the symphony of keening that accompanies a pack of coyotes, but a long howl echoing along the valley. McCain noticeably tenses, drawing his revolver, you bring his rifle up (You have yet to give it back to him since heading to town.)You make your way toward the spring and follow along the surprisingly sandy beach. Spot check. 1d20, best of 3, higher is better this time.
Rolled 19>>28006944like, just ONE howl?One, big, howl?Uh oh.
Rolled 1>>28006944All I need to do is not choke.Don't choke, dice.
>>28007014look. guy. I know this is going to give you a complex.I just want to tell you, don't be afraid to roll more in the future.
Rolled 4>>28006944>>28007014Looks like the dice just choked.
>>28007014Now that's a thing.Well, I'm done rolling for the night. And probably the week.
Rolled 8>>28006944Rolling for a 20 to balance
Rolled 18>>28007081Looks like we're getting ambushed by wolves or something along those lines. But a 1 on a spot check is better than a 1on the roll before it
>>28007109very much so.Anyways, a wolf ambush aint so bad. The trickiest part is if they knock over our cart, since we're sort of half-in half-out of it while in motion. Unless we got out of the carriage already.
>>28007122McCain was on his horse, which he got off of and tied to a tree, you were on foot most of the way. Land right now is too rough for the carraige.
Rolled 6>>28007122I thought we were on foot since we can (almost) keep up with a horse
>>28007149And by most of the way I mean all of the way.
Rolled 13>>28007149Well lamias naturally excel in physical combat due to snakeness. Even if we didn't choose brawler, so we should be able to handle ourselves. Let's use our poison liberaly, we don't have to worry about morality with wild animals. unless they're giant spiders
>>28007177Yeah, carriages only work on roads and naturally flat ground like baked desert and plains
>>28007228well, if the wolves are giant ENOUGH, we could maybe ride them too.
>>28007367Ehh, they're obviously feral. Besides, a horse would be better than a wolf just based on anatomy and feeding habits
>>28007407well, a giant horse would be preferable to a giant wolf, but I'd really take any giant X for a riding thing.
>>28007411Well if we get the chance to capture one we will, then we can try to tame it later. But we'll trade up if possible. We're gonna end up with a giant animal zoo aren't we?
>>28007436too early to tell. All I know so far is we're deeply jealous of McCain's cool horseman swagger.
>>28007462Our jealousy results in the greatest exotic animal farm in the world
>>28007486assuming, of course, we do manage to strike it rich.
>>28007572We will. With our land and /tg/s exploryness im sure we'll be fine
>1You keep close to McCain as he takes another step forward. It is hear you hear a whipping of rope and the both of you rise into the air. A massive net, laid into the ground rises out of the sand encompassing the both of you as it closes. You twist around inside the net, unable to find purchase unil you find yourself face to face with MccCain, looking obviously unvofortable as your tail presses the side of his face into the heavily woven threads. "Miss," He managed to say, his voice somewhat muffled, "If you'd stop moving I'll see about getting us out of this mess."You try and relax yourself as much as possible, and McCain twist himself so that his back is against the bulk of your body and pushes against the fabric of the net, removing his knife from its sheath, you hear his muffled cursing and the sound of sawing on the ropes, but another noise catches your ears, the howl returns, closer now, and you start hearing the sound of brush moving from the far bank. You wonder to yourself who could have left this trap here.I need another spot check same as before, also back in a bit, as luck would have it I have some dogs of my own to shoot. Fucking Coyote pack rolling in here again.
Rolled 14>>28007650>wolves confirmed>intelligent wolvesIt's time for a wolf hunt!
>>28007676I am going to listen to the sang froid soundtrack for wolf-based encounters.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMGC6JHEpEA
Rolled 5>>28007650I feel like you have had coyote problems while GMing on tg before. And I really hope you didn't just add in a new faction/person for the trap because of that 1. I hate it when gms have critical affect things they weren't rolled for.
Rolled 8>>28007711Well atleast it wasn't a Bag
>>28007770dodged a bullet there. Though nets are almost just as bad. We can't find a single bit of footing in here. Can hardly move to aim, either.
Rolled 3>>28007786McCain has it. If we had our claws it would be no problem. Hoping it's just an old trap left by our dad
So, it looks like we might have run into some natives.How savage do you think they are? Full wendigo would be bad for tourism.
>>28007835Well It could just be a trappers trap. Like a mountain man living off of pelts. Wolf pelts would be worth quite a bit.
>>28007864Especially with the bounty on aggressive critters
>>28007864oh, if it was just a mountain hermit I'd be very relieved. There's a bounty on them wolves. I'm worried it's natives who claim ownership of the spring though. Maybe even an ancient burial ground, so that whatever we build on it will be haunted.
>>28007880Ehh, this doesn't really seem like the type of setting for hauntings. We can probably figure out a bit by examining the Knotts. Whatever it is it is probably small due to no one knowing of it yet
>>28007914I'd make a case for possible hauntings. There's a maybe haunted white oak/black rose combination back in the UFK.
It doesn't take that long to shoot a few coyotes, just ask sasha. I kid. but still hurry up
>>28007969give him time. Coyotes are serious business. Known to set traps. Take hostages.
>>28007991I just hope he doesn't get the southwestern breed, those are some highly trained motherfuckers
I'm probably worried about nothing, this is probably just an old trapper net and normal wolves.
>>28008356But we're still going to have to fight a pack of wolves with only fangs and tail
Back and writing, it was the fucking Coyowolf pack. Dealt with. >>28007711Actually it is the exact opposite of inserting people.
>>28008410well, it sure might be difficult to use a longarm up close.>>28008415woo!
>>28008415So you made it so the wolves killed some poor hunter? I can live with that
>>28008474I'm trying to calibrate how bad I should feel about someone dying while hunting on our land.
>>28008562Think of it somewhere between them doing a job for us and a lost minor asset.
>>28008690Not including morality of course
Wonder if biting at the rope would be of any help. We have both sharp and serrated types of teeth, but lots of animals have that, and they can't bite out of nets.
>>28009025Usually net traps like this are for herbivores. Carnivores are usually hunted. I don't know if we have serrated teeth. I thought we had human teeth with large snakeish fangs.
>>28009077think humanish incisors, fangs, then canines instead of molars.
>>28009093Canines would make more sense due to a mainly meat diet. Plus it makes us more terrifying when we bite
>>28008474More like this character has been here the whole time and you went down exactly the right path to run into him. You guys are conducting the railroad.>14You catch a glimpse of something moving through the shrubbery on the other side of the bank, a mottled pattern of grey and black flashes on occasion and then it stops. Everything is silent at this point save for the industrious sawing of McCain on the net fabric. Then you hear a noise from behind you. <This is curious... The smell of the white corrupter is faint, but it is upon you little snake.>, you twist to face the voice eliciting some complaints from McCain which promptly stop mid sentence as he apparently sees what you were trying to look at. Some more manoeuvring brings you face to face with, presumably, your captor. Clad in furs, a male lamia is gazing at you appraisingly, the first thing you note about him, is how long he is. If you had to estimate, at least 35 feet or more. <And the smell of the north court is heavy along your companion. You should chose your next words with utmost care.> His stance is relaxed yet seems to exude the feeling of an unsprung trap. >Your response?
>>28009175well, that's the configuration from 500 years ago. They also grew back in the day. Hopefully, this has remained unchanged.
>>28009360"I would appreciate it if you would let us down and start making sense."
>>28009360that's a good question. How much do we know of any of that business? Because it's literally ancient history by now. I think we might want to try something along the lines of"And to think, I thought I'd have to bring in settlers to have some neighbors. Nice to meet you, I'm Sasha Masterson, and this here is ol' Matt Mccain. But you have us at a disadvantage, mister...?" wait for him to give a name or question us further. Use lizard tongue if we can do that.
>>28009360Fuck in hate Indians. First we ask for him to let us down, we give him our name and tell him that we are exploring the land we inherited from our father. Tell him we mean no harm. The white he referred to may be the "white" of dragon insanity. Open said Character, so I don't think it is a village. Just an isolated hunter.
>>28009360"First lamia I meet out here and he tells me I smell funny before I even introduce myself. Off to a great start."
>>28009521good, open with comedy. less chance of getting stabbed with comedy.Also, if we're meeting this guy now... from whence came the howl?
>>28009360Looks like we have a renegade here. And he seems to hate the northern elves. Tell him that McCain isn't a bad person and such bullshit
>>28009541Yes, on both counts. I would say lead with the comedy then move to this >>28009490Don't mention settlers yet.
>>28009521I vote for this.
>>28009360So First this>>28009521Then>>28009490Then>>28009579Seems good
Well, whatever you do, stay friendly. We want this hot springs, but if it's occupied, we may just have to look for some other enterprise.Or bring in some goons
>>28009490My bet is that Citadel did something to all the lamias on that continent, so the local lamias can sense that our mother wasn't from around here. Which is why it only smells faintly like Citadel.Not sure how much that's metagaming, because I have no idea what we know about Citadel in-character. But we DID take scholarly as a trait, iirc, so it might not be a stretch.
>>28009696well, there was a titillating tell-all about citadel and all that.But it was also written in like six languages all flowing into one another hundreds of years ago.So who knows if other historians picked up the ball and made a coherent one.
>>28009695We'll just bring in the local nitor to drive out the murderous criminal barring us access to OUR land
>>28009696>>28009727If there was one thing the schola nitor was supposed to do, it was supposed to warn people (average people, so you don't get secret societies and shit) about the entire citadel debacle. Keep it from happening again
>>28009746(exploitation of working class intensifies)>>28009790If this is the case, and we know about it, we should mention all that white corrupter business is ancient history. Then maybe ask if we can buy him a newspaper.
try not to be distracted by older man in position of power.Also try not to consider how he's probably super damn old given length.
Chemlab Cancelled Update: Police.Probably checking about the shots fire earlier. Will update when I am back.
>>28009840Hey, we aren't exploiting anybody. And honestly I don't think we plan to. We just want to make use of our lands, and not have someone try to murder us for it
>>28009892Coyotes. Serious business.Hopefully none of them had the cops in their pocket, or we might have to wait until he gets out of prison.
>>28009890> Even considering not going lesbian Not even once I don't have a proper image but you get the point. Though we should show him respect, he could be like our "granny" and train us in the way of the lamia.
>>28009953hey, some snake men might have some nice assets. But enough of having our mind in the gutter, I am in a state of nervous laughter over the police issue. It's not at all uncommon to have to be in questioning for a while.
>>28010043Nah, this sort of thing takes 20 minutes tops, probably not even that. Someone calls the cops reporting gunfire, they know what it probably is but have to check anyway, he tells them it's coyotes, they leave. Good End
>>28010088okay, I'll not worry for another half hour.And then I'll worry the hell out of everything.
Rolled 9>>28009521This is the correct response.
Time has passed, and I'm now officially worry.>>28010659Oh, hey there guy. Join in the worry.
>>28010716Nah, shots fired calls tend to take some time depending on where you are. Just keep waiting.
Back and I'm fine, got a bit to write up, but nonetheless.>Just watched a local police officer and a game warden get into a jurisdiction war, ending up with the officer basically arresting the warden and bidding me a good night.
>>28011110bahahahaOh chemlab, I am so glad you weren't arrested by coyotes.
>>28011110That is awesome, you should have videotaped iit. Was the game warden gonna do anything to you?
>>28011210Accusation of poaching, tried to enter my house without a warrant to look at the gun I used. Police officer stopped him, big arguement, cop went full drill sergeant mode and verbally beat down the DNR officer.Cop that just helped me was the same one that pulled me over two days ago and let me go without a ticket.
>>28011275Was it sheriff? Cause usually sheriff's are chiller. It's nice to know not all people are assholes
>>28011275ah, the by the books/lenient cop struggle. A classic.
>>28011275What proof did they had of you poaching
>>28011317Trying to enter without a warrant? If one of them is being by-the-book, it's the police officer, not the game warden. I think you mean something more like by-the-book/I-AM-THE-LAW.
>>28011362Nothing, DNR around this area tend to get a bit pushy, which is understandable, but they've been overstepping bounds lately and a lot of people are pissed about that. >Michigan DNR officer says that call said it was "high caliber">It was a fucking .223 Rem Savage Arms Varminter.
>>28011405> high caliber > .22They know nothing about guns whatsoever. A .22 is like a peashooter
>>28011454.22 and .223 are not the same
>>28011535Oh, my bad. Still can't be THAT much of a difference
so, really, how are we going to get this hot spring off of him.Because I want it, and it's pretty obvious he lives here.Offer house construction?
>>28011788Because it's our land. All we have to do is bring some nitor down from the coast. But peace is the best solution, this is a single character and im sure we can get him to join us, or atleast come to an agreement
Rolled 20>>28011909It's not our fucking land. This Lamia and his tribe where obviously here first and it belongs to them by right. That we own it legally is a flaw in the system that should be corrected. Let's not kick off the Native Genocide hmm?
>>28011575There is. A .22lr projectile weighs 2-3 grams and travels around 1500 ft/s. A .223 projectile typically weighs 4-5 grams and travels anywhere from 2700 to 3700 ft/s.A .22 is useless on anything much bigger than a pidgeon, or much further than 100 feet. Some loads of .223 will kill a man from 800 yards out of the right platform, with a skilled shooter.
>>28011962We have the backing of the government so we own it. That is how things work in the real world. And I don't think it is a whole tribe, even if it was there is no reason we can't incorporate them like ssen did with the lizardmen in original lamia quest
Rolled 19>>28012052True. Legally we own the land. I say that the land however rightfully belongs to the tribe that lives here. Not us who have never touched it until our current explorations. They have lived off this land presumably for generations, they have the moral right to the land, even if we have the right of the gun.
>>28012052>>28011962I don't think any of us want to force him out at this point. I just want his things, and am willing to deal with him on it.
>>28012052That's true. It's our land. But they were still here first, and we should respect that.Assuming it's a 'they' and not just a 'he', which why would it just be him if there wasn't a them?
>>28011962Just cause "your here first" doesn't mean you own it. Things don't work like that. Besides, if we can take it, why shouldn't we?
<First lamia I meet out here and he tells me I smell funny before I even introduce myself. Off to a great start.>He regards you a moment before his face splits into a grin. <That is probably the best answer you could have come up with.>"What's he sayin' how much shit are we in miss?" hisses McCain, you shush him and continue. <Sasha Masterson, and you are?> you call, trying to fight the feeling of blood rushing to your head. <I apologize for the lack of pleasantries but I would be greatly appreciative if you could let us down.><First I would know of your business here, I have not been to this side of the mountain in a long while, I am surprised to see any of our kind here. As for who I am, Veles is a name that will work, I do not intend to tell you my true name.>, his tone seems to have lightened somewhat despite the odd formality of his speech and wariness of telling you his name.<Surveying the lands I inherited from my father.> You respond,<Inherited? Curiouser still...> he muses, before letting out a sharp whistle. padding into the area you see a LARGE dog, or rather, wolf that moves to his side. <And your compatriot, do you know why he stinks of the bindings of winter court seals?>
>>28012127Because Candid said he was introducing a Character. Singular. >>28012088>>28012127Why? What's with this hippy shit? Who says we have to go full Paladin like last time?
>>28012133mostly to not be dicks. Also because I don't like making relations go from neutral to negative with natives unless necessary, due to raiding costs.
>>28012052>We have the backing of the government so we own it.That depends on how much whatever officials would be responsible for enforcing this give a shit.It's entirely possible that we don't have the practical backing of the government, whether because we can't cover the necessary bribes to get them off their asses, or because they (like several posters herein) actually have a sense of ethics.>>28012133>Besides, if we can take it, why shouldn't we?Short version: because that's evil. There are several longer versions.
>>28012052I hope it's a tribe, just for native lamia/city lamia shenanigans later on.>Okay, I just need you all to tell the lawyers that the land is mine. That way the other barons will have a harder time muscling me (and then, most likely, the rest of you) off. I'll let you stay on for some pelts!>We have always lived here. Why should we pay you pelts for 'allowing' us to stay on our ancestral homeland?>Okay, tell you what. I'll build a resort on that hot spring. Lots of ranch hands and miners would be willing to pay for a visit to hot baths!>This is a holy spring. It's healing waters are a gift from the Great Maker.>Healing waters you say? Think we could bottle and sell it?
>>28012133This.Fuck the savages
Rolled 19>>28012133You realize you are ultimately advocating ethnic cleansing, genocide, and might makes right, here? That's evil, and we should not try to recreate what happened to the Native Americans. I want the UFK to be better than that.
>>28012192You look to find a way to speak to McCain, but have no clear angle to see him so instead you just voice openly. "He wants to know why you smell of something called the north court?" You feel the shrug McCain gives, "No clue what he's chunnering on about miss, don't even know that there was a 'north' court." <He says he doesn't know.> You call down.<Judging by what I see, he likely does, but that is no matter. I will let you down.> He moves into the woods and you see him remove a wickedly sharp curved blade from a sheath on his side, and fiddle with the rope. You then see him coil the rear of his tail around a tree trunk and slice the robe below where he was holding it. You jerk a bit, and then see him slowly and powerfully extending upward rope in both hands, counterbalancing the weight of both you and McCain easing the net into the ground. As you get up you see the... dog... wolf... thing eyeing you warily as the lamia uncoils from the tree.<So little one, I am curious, does the seal still stand? Has the folly of my late sire been resolved?>>Response?
>>28012211We could easily tell them that we are being harassed by rabid locals and we plan on setting up an outpost to make forays into and beyond the mountains. And it isn't so much Evil as true neutral with our own interests at heart. Doesn't matter anyway since he isn't from here
>>28012192<Not a clue. You could always ask him, or is there a language barrier?>>>28012193We don't HAVE to. But in a Western, courtesy and caution tend to keep you from waking up with no scalp and a torso full of arrows.
>>28012192"still working on that, McCain."<Look, I don't really know what you mean with this business of seals and corrupters. He's just an elf who's been helping my family for a long while. Dependable type.>
>>28012278Dude watcho talkin bout? We are lost
Rolled 6>>28012278<I have no idea what you're talking about..>
>>28012278oh, there's more. Do we know about the seals? This is sort of entirely dependant on whether or not we know about them.<Look, I studied a lot of things, but something like "the seal" could refer to any number of them. Maybe narrow it down?>
>>28012278How much history do we know? Aren't we pretty well educated?"If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, you are OLD. That business was settled a long time ago. And it was a lamia who did it, too."Puff up some in pride at that last bit.
>>28012278<If this seal is a local thing, then I don't know. You may have smelled it already, but my family's not from around here.>
>>28012437yeah, if we know about it, tell him.
Rolled 1>>28012455Actually, are we a local lamia adopted by a foreign family or are we from the mainland UFK?
>>28012437Don't know if that's what he's talking about. But it is common knowledge.
>>28012476UFK lamia mother. She was a nitor soldier.
>>28012476Read the fucking quest before participating
>he doesn't usually come to this side of the mountainThat means we get to keep the hot spring.We also get to trade with him for TAME GIANT WOLVES
>>28012520See this guy? Don't be like this guy.>>28012518Be like this guy.
>>28012541Hell yeah motherfucker, still want to get us a spider for the mountains but this will do for now
>>28012541>Giant200 pounds is actually the rough size of northern wolves, fuckers are big around here at least but not Volvo sized.
>>28012602>not volvo sizedDamn. They need to be volvo sized to be enough. Oh well, the search continues.
>>28012559I'm sorry, I'm just angry at him for he earlier views which are now pointless and how he perpetuated the thing about how namefags are shit. Cause I usually like namefags, i just think that if they want to distinguish themselves they should hold themselves to a higher standard. Polite sage
>>28012647Maybe the caves in the mountains will have something big enough? We should ask him if he has found an animal that is fit for lamia riding?
>>28012726extract as much native knowledge as possible from friendly natives.We'll steal land from the hostile natives when we find them.
>>28012806Let's drop the issue until it is relevant. Cause it's only gonna cause more arguments
>>28012853yeah okay.I too want giant spiders. 5 isens is on there only being large spiders in significant quantities though.A further two isens on them being delicious when roasted.
>>28012873I'll match your five, but ill instead put two items on either drow or dwarf having tamed them already
>>28012910Isens Fucking auto correct
Rolled 5>>28012518Thank you.>>28012520I did. Last week. I don't remember everything.
Rolled 18>>2801287320 isens on the giant spiders being sapient.
>>28013059I'll take that bet, no one makes mounts sapient
>>28013059you and your dark horse bets>>28012910I am almost certain there's southern elves, since he mentioned the NORTHERN elves.
>>28013159Exactly why I'm thinking either drow or dwarves inhabiting the mountains If it's dwarves then the elves will be beyond the mountains
Rolled 12>>28013159>I am almost certain there's southern elves, since he mentioned the NORTHERN elves.I think it's just because McCain is descended from the Elves up north on the continent Lamia Quest was on.
>>28013350yeah, but they'd just be the elves then. Not the northern elves. Or so my wacky hypothesis goes.
>>28012278So are we still doing this?
>>28013865I feel like worry over whether he's alive will be a consistent theme.
Apologies, a cavalcade of fuckups is going on here, just had my comp crash and lost my archive along with my update. Its coming, just trying to get going and retyping. Had to go to fucking system restore to get back up. Fuck fate, I will finish this.
>>28013879Yeah, feel like i care for the well being of Quest runners more than i care about most people i know. Good entertainment is like a drug>>28013915Well that fucking sucks, i had to do the same thing earlier today.
>>28013915Oh boy. These problems are certainly a one time fluke, and we won't be assaulted by coyote computer sabateurs from here on out. I'll be waiting.
>>28013915You need to beef up your defenses. Get some armed guards, put up an electric fence, lead line your walls. you gotta be prepared for this shit
>>28013975Half of that is already in place. Satellite internet is shit for having fun, but they don't even service dialup where I am at.
>>28013915So are you typing the update or are you retyping your notes?at this stage in th game i dont think you would have TOO many notes. but then agian you did say you had all those planned plot arcs and it looks like you have characters planned
>>28013915>cyber-coyotesThe hit squad was fought off, so now they try cyber warfare? The bastards.
>>28014049>>28013915So how much did you actually lose? did you have none of it backed up on a flash drive? Do you have to retype ALL of the notes and plans?
>>28014049That's a nicer bathtub than you usually see turned into an impromptu /k/ommando bunker.
Why do coyotes hate lamias so much? Didn't Echo have problems with them as well?
>>28014122Yeah, he did.
>>28014049Jesus, you dont wanna know what it came up with when i accidentally hit the multi-service image search.it involved : Loli, milk bottles, and anal sex
>>28014122>>28014136It's cause Ssen accidentally swallowed one whole when she was little.
>>28014051>>28014077Just my update. I keep a running .txt with each of my updates so I can just use search to look for previously mentioned things in the case of conflicts and to keep track of what I have and have not revealed. >>28014079>>28014141I might just start using zergface with any non update related posts, I have a lot of these saved here from.... fuck, 2010.
>>28014175the .txt is actually a really really smart thing to do. I wish more OPs would do that.
>>28014157>THEY KNOW>>28014175I'm gonna have to call it quits, it's 4am here. Thanks for running.Any idea when the next thread will be?
>>28014218here be the twitterhttps://twitter.com/LamiaLegacy>>28014175wonderful. Though, I warn against crosstalk, it can distract.
<If this seal is a local thing, then I don't know. You may have smelled it already, but my family's not from around here.>He rolls his eyes. <There are no lamias from around here. I was placed here by my sire to look after her holdings while she tried to convince that obstinate fool in the northern mountains to stop the creation of the Grand Seal.>The mention of the name flips a switch in your mind, <If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, you are OLD. That business was settled a long time ago. And it was a lamia who did it, too I have the book if you would like to read about it.> you say with a hint of pride in your voice.He sssnickers, <Well, I suppose that is good news, and yes, I am. Though I never bothered much to keep count. As for the book? If it is in that language you were speaking to your friend I would have to learn it first. Always something new if you know where to look.> You nod, when McCain extracts himself from your coils and dusts himself off. "I take it we ain't gonna be diced by the big fella or his friend there?" "It seems not." You respond, and realize you yourself are covered in sand, dusting yourself off McCain speaks again. "Well miss, what are we gonna do 'bout this? If we want to make it back before dark we should leave about... or rather should have left twenty minutes ago. >If so, how do you want handle this?
>>28014314I totally read the filenames.And if it's that late, we should probably camp at the hot springs. For reasons of cost effectiveness. Not because I really want to swim in a hot spring. No. Of course not. Ask our new friend if that's okay. And what his name is.
>>28014314offer the guy dinner at your place, so that you can talk with him and possibly see about giiving him that book and teaching him to speak our language.and company in general is always a good thing. He seems like a nice guy, i hope he can teach us how to unlock our inner POISON BEAST OF DEATH. and i wonder how his mind escaped mental decay, since he is obviously much much older than Granny
>>28014314>predates the Grand SealDamn, he IS old as shit. Also, traveling after dark over terrain you're barely familiar with is asking for trouble. Just saying.
>>28014314I do, and the snake gifs are awesome as fuck. the awesomeness of the posts just distracts from the awesomness of the pics and filenames
>>28014387That is why we bring the Ancient Tank
>>28014386>dinner at our placeOh man, this is a good idea. I would be totally fine if we did this instead of camping.Though, he probably hasn't escaped mental decay. Either that or has very few memories to hold onto, and a lot of uneventful days. I dunno.
>>28014438Or whatever order he is from or whoever his master was figured out how to cure alzeheimersnot really that hard of a concept. we are well on our way to it now and we don't have MAGIC and all the bumfuckery it brings
>>28014314Wait, are we talking about "The Dragon Whose Name Is Dragon Because She Is What A Dragon Is"?
>>28014473I thought Old One was the king of Dragons?
>>28014473I feel like half of this quest is going to be scraping the lamia quest archives for small tidbits of info
>>28014485"Obstinate fool" screams "Old One" to me. The only female dragon we know of in this setting is TDWNIDBSIWADI.Mostly I'm spitballing.
>>28014473probably.>>28014485doesn't contradict that.Do we have a decision on eat at our place/camp at hot spring issue?
>>28014314Dam, we've been running for 11 hours already. you ok Candid? usually Runners get tired pretty quick.
>>28014528I would say at our place, but if her doesn't want to then lets make camp here with him. if he doesn't want to do that either than we ask if there is a way for us to contact him and head home.
>>28014528Our place. Gotta get in good with him so he can be like our Granny, only better.
>>28014473Yes.>>28014503Most of them will be largely inconsequential tie ins, I promise. Only in an "Huh, interesting." Rather than a "I have an encyclopedic knowledge on a quest that isn't even ran by the same guy and it is the only way I will survive this" sort of way. >>28014528So far either hot spring camp or inviting to dinner are the only choices, fairly well tied.>>28014533Next work shift is 5PM tomorrow, I can probably get this next update in before I crash. If the threads still up I'll try and get a a few more before I go in, then I should be good to go for a while.
>>28014648I think eat at our house wins here.
>>28014648Then i shall make sure it is up. and i think our place has won, does anybody disagree?you could call a vote if you want to
>>28014697I'm happy with it either way.
>>28014697I had the idea of staying at the hot spring, but I'm equally fine with house. More neutral.
>>28014697May as well.  Stay here for the night and camp. Invite Veles to your house for dinner.Unless significant vote for the opposite, happens in the next 15, house looks like what we are going with.
>>28014847>Invite Veles to your house for dinner.
>>28014847dinner, so as to speed things.
>>28014895does that mean house?
Rolled 16>>28014314The question is, is he talking about Dagda's Grand Seal, or the Citadel's? And how the fuck is his mind still there if he's that old?
>>28015231Dagda's, cause it talked about TDWNIDBSIWADI talking with dagda about his seal and all that shit.
>>28015231I wonder if Old One is still alive?Maybe he just figured out how dragons do it without going crazy? or magic?
>>28015293dragons do it by not giving a shit about forgetting unimportant things, like what day it is, or what humans live nearby, or the current popular language.
"Well, we can hardly leave someone who just helped us out of a net without showing him some hospitality now can we?" you venture. "That's a good point miss, knowin' how them fangs of yours work make me all the more thankful he didn't turn out to be a hostile, yet." McCain responds, a nervous edge in gruff voice. <Well thank you kindly for helping us out of the predicament sir, if you'd like, we'd love to have you over for dinner tonight as at least a small means of thanks.>The old snake smiles, <You know, of all the people I met on either side of the mountain, you are the first one to actually invite me into their home. Consider your offer accepting.> With a slight nod of his head, he gives a sharp whistle, and the large dog tears off into the woods. <Dazh will scout a bit ahead, she's been a great one for sniffing out interesting things, it was her that found you two.> He says as you reclaim your gear and weapons, something Veles takes a decidedly appraising look at. McCain saddles up and you make towards home. The mystery of the river will have to wait for another day, because you decidedly heard Veles say, EITHER side of the mountain.>Break here, will attempt to continue in later... today.
>>28015336today as in tuesday the 29, or wednsday the 30th?I have no idea where you live
>>28015336oh, and: hell yes, we have a guest. Someone who will actually appreciate our cooking!
>>2801534630th, I'm EST.In the meantime, feel free to brainstorm, speculate, or what have you. Not going to say if you are right or wrong yet on the speculation, but what I have is... different.
>>28015391wonderful, that means I can go to sleep at some point soon. Good session, barring technical issues, see you when things kick off again.
>>28015371Well we shall ask him EVERYTHING. from tips on lamia shit (which may lead to the unlocking of our claws and poison), to the way across/under the mountain, to how old he is and his history, then about who/what is on the other side, what the spring is, possible Mounts for a Lamia. we got plenty of shit to talk about
>>28015472and teaching him how to read and about what went down on the northern continent
>>28015493>>28015472All of that I'm fine with, but maybe the lamia stuff later, after we notice him using any of them.
>>28015529Yeah, i just wanna get proficient at close combat.So:Claws + Spines + whatever other natural abilities we can get = close combatGuns (Beacon?)= ranged combati wonder where Wagon is right now?
>>28015567wagon is currently lodged in an impact crater on mars.I think we should probably have chosen brawling at the start, but since we didn't, we should work into it. We're going to have to wrassle giant spiders later.
>>28015618i think it was good that we choose sharpshooter at the start since we are naturaly weak in that area. our biology supports close combat immensly. claws, tail, fangs, spines, poison, the other things i am still scouring the archives for. but some sparring with our new friend is in order
>>28015664we'll see how it turns out. Speed+sharpshooter is pretty good for most things, other than taking things in alive. Well, we can take people with intimidating trick shooting, but not animals.
>>28015734we can also create poison filled bullets/capsules or do some cross training with a bow for non-lethal properties
>>28015808good ideas for much later down the line. As it stands, I don't want to risk corrosion on our real good gun.
>>28016031Yeah, later. But if Black didn't corrode our weapons then it should be fine.
>>28016118it'd probably be at least as bad for it as using the cheap gunpowder. Unless we have specialist bullets and casings that hold it in until later. So, gunsmith stuff. Alternatively, we could pick up an old, garbage singleshot musket that can take the punishment and use that.
okay, going to sleep, going to put my ranching suggestions up in case the thing restarts before I'm back.Chemlab said we could buy cheap cows for 10 isens a head, but we sold our own for 25 isens a head. I would suggest that, since we are already getting too few cattle to run a proper meat operation, we buy instead a fewer number of higher quality cattle and run a dairy operation. 200 25 Isen cattle would cost 5,000 Isens, and leave us 5,000 more for farmhands, finding a prize bull, stocking up on hay or hay seed, building materials for whatever we decide to make on our land, and if we have any left over for luxury, maybe a flock of chickens so the farmhands and us can have eggs every morning. That'd be a nice luxury.
>>28018923A Ranch and a Dairy farm are two entirely different things. That would require complete refitting of our ranch, not to mention moving away from the business we are familiar with. It will only take a few years to build our heards to be larger than any one else's in the area due to how much more land we own than anyone else. Besides, we don't get a Massive bonus to dairy farming from our land like we do with ranching
>>28019036Besides 25 is the price that they're sold to the UFK. I think it was settled for getting like 500 head to start with so that we have enough money to hire some help, but some gear, and still have plenty leftover.
>Be mid update>Get phone call>Work wants me in early due to a call off. Updates half done folks, may just turn it into the OP of the next thread because I won't be back for 8 hours.
>>28022866Darn. We are sitting at 266 replies though, so maybe not a bad idea.
>>28022866Good luck at work chemlab! Waiting on next thread pensively.
>>28019068we'll be getting the cheapies in that case. hope there's no plague or something on them.
>>28022866Your work are assholes
>>2802307210-20 for quality cattle is what he said. Average it at 15
>>28023072Selling plague/sick cattle is a good way to get yourself killed
>>28023449well, then, worries lessened>>28023493man, that's my biggest worry at auction. Purchase some skank hay, you suddenly have weeds you never did before spreading from your barn. Purchase a skank cow, you suddenly have animals falling over from unknown eye-explosion disease. I worry.
>>28023529Ranchers. We're usually pretty good about healthy cows. Cause if you weren't then no one would buy from you, or you would have to sell it so cheap it isn't worth it.