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Recent Events Summary:

You journeyed alone to the deep part of the Great Forest so as to confront Temerity on your own terms. You could come to no accord - you had enough of him, and he of you - and a battle between the pieces of yourself erupted.

After nearly breaching the 'seal' by weakening the shards too far, Temerity agreed to submit, more fearful of unleashing whatever Chaos lay within than being reforged by Humanity. All the shards you've collected are now recast in Order and Chaos.

The new Temerity - Resolve - has given you the location of the final two shards. The first, Shaper, had already repurposed the population of Abbotsford - but you were able to stop it before it could complete a Flesh Titan.

Now, you turn your gaze upon the final shard waiting at the Frozen Hand - Wrath. But first, you need to have a conversation with Ellendra Kalladar - the elven Queen that started all this so long ago.

But flying straight to the xenophobic elvish isles could pose many problems. But you know another elf - Valeria Kavanere - leader of those that call the Great Forest home, and members of your growing northern alliance. You've decided to ask her about the situation.

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>>27800157
>this is what abby fell in love with

>>27800157
IT'S SHADOW TIME!

What happened in the QTG? I tend to ignore them as they are often shit.

>>27800228
Do not bring up things from other threads into the quest, anon. Leave discussions of ire where they lie.

>>27800228
Don't worry about it. Just the usual.

>>27800228
Don't play coy, Anon.

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>>27800174

But it's fun!

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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/4Y6TAxse

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/wvSR8Kcx

Guys, before we start a few things: We need to mimic something when we meditate, I hate being flat footed

I have a test tomorrow.
Why do you do this to me, SM?

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Current Statistics:

HP: 81/81
Mana: 58/58
EXP: 5

Shards of Erebus:
-none-

New Shards:
(Maker) - Normal
(Silence) - Normal
(Peace) - Normal
(Breeze) - Strong
(Hammer) - Weak
(Ardor) - Normal
{Resolve} - Normal
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

Wisp - 1 mana to order

--Automatons--

Earthen Construct (currently in Haven)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Sun-Moon Key
Lightning Key

--Teleport Anchor--

Haven - Inner Fortress

--Current Location--

Forest Den

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Known Mana Pools:

Jacob's Field - entrance to Hecate's tomb - Spirit
Palthair Mines - Magnock's Lair - Spirit
Archon - Spirit District - Spirit
Archon - Shadow District - Shadow
Archon - Earth
Archon - Water
Haven - Shadow
Abbotsford - Shadow
???? - ???? - Shadow

>>27800301
i support this, getting our shards up is really important before facing Wrath

AND unconcious.

Also, we should get summoning I. two measly xp ppl.

We should get an Oscar Meyer Wiener Whistle for the Erebus Coach Omnibus

>>27800357
you should know better than to suggest that here anon, ever since Xella /tg/ has been rather averse to all summoning. even the non-demonic kind

>>27800357
>MUH SUMMONING!

>>27800357
>>27800301
Are you trying to shitpost cleverly or something?

The next XP purchase is hydra barring needy circumstances.

also, an enchanted umbrella woud go nicely with our hat and shadow regen.

We should gather the darkest parts of our shards to make one permanent tribute to old Erebus, so that we can use the Humanity/Termerity contrast mortar reforge to ultimate our shards like we did with Fleet/Breeze (dont freak, well program him to be loyal)

>>27800377
i support getting ghost, fae, and ghoul though. we will need those for several skill outside of summoning and it will be good to be able to call up mindless mooks on occasion. and crowbro.

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Haha! Time for Shadow Quest!

I wonder what happens when we buy all the resistances,

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-HQ3ZPsMmg

Forest Den was expecting you. Apparently Hamil had worked with some of the elves to set up a line of communication to Haven. You really have to thank him at some point. At first, he seemed wary about the angels...but he's worked as hard as anyone to ensure Haven's success.

The werewolf you met a long time ago in the depths of the forest - Young Bull - meets you at the entrance to the city. His greeting is brief, but cordial. He guides you around buildings rising from the forest like tree trunks and around walkways hung on the branches. It's a beautiful, peaceful place. You and Flint get plenty of looks from the locals - both werewolf, and elf alike - but they're more curious than hostile. You get the feeling that they don't see many strangers.

Valeria is waiting for you in a great hall at the center of the sprawling strctures. The pillars that support the roof seem alive, rather than cut and shaped; the windows aren't glass, but a thin, membraneous material, reminiscent of fungi. The building seems grown right out of the ground - and you suspect that, perhaps, it was.

"Shadow," she says. "I've been expecting you."

You stand before her in the center of the hall. Young Bull remains at a polite distance. <So I've learned. I'm glad we have your help in this.>

"Yi Fang is hardly trustworthy," she replies, "but I believe I can rely on you to keep him in check." She shrugs. "But we must help. If Arland falls, I doubt the demons will spare the Great Forest long. They'd burn it to spite us."

<True enough.> You consider her a moment. <Do you have any insight as to what the Kanians are thinking? They're playing with forces that are rapidly spiraling out of control.>

>con't

>>27800357
Would have been neat. But it's way too late in the game to invest in summoning. Would do next to nothing if we don't sink massive amounts of XP to power through to the end of the tree.

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>>27800357

>>27800391
No, I'm serious. The ability to summon the Cirrus would be invaluable. What part dont you agree with?

>>27800403
...wut

>>27800403
aaand filtered.

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>>27800403
>>27800357
>>27800301
>how can one mouth contain all this knob?

>>27800435
>>27800403
Okay, you got me. I haven't laughed so hard in a while.

"Have you ever wondered why they made demons that could think for themselves?" Valeria asks. "Because they're more deadly. Because they're smart enough to outwit a human. What better weapon than one that can predict and outmanuever its target?" She raises an eyebrow. "But a thinking weapon smart enough to consider its own existence - to be introspective - that's an even greater danger. A weapon like that might not want to fight for anyone, but for itself. For survival."

<You're saying that the demons are already out of control.>

"A demon lord is never in control in the first place," she says. "That's what makes it so powerful. But to summon one is to bring forward a creature that immediately plots against the master. If you think men and angels are the only forces creating this conflict, you'd be mistake. Chaos has an agenda - more chaos. The more conflict, the more they are needed. The demons want permanence. In a way...they want freedom."

<That's a disturbing idea.>

"It is," she agrees. "But they were also made as weapons. In the end, it's us, or them."

<...you speak of order and chaos,> you say. <Those ideas are become more relevant every day.>

"I learned as much when I spoke with my cousin. The Queen won't admit it, but helping you turned out to be more than she could easily chew."

You feel a cold chill run down your back. <The Queen - you're related? What do you know?>

Valeria smiles. "Oh, more or less everything."

"I know everything, too," Flint mutters. "If you've got answers, we want them."

She looks back to you. "You don't have anything to fear from me, Erebus. The Earth and the Shadow were friends, once. Well...as much as anyone could be friend from the Shadow."

<...I'm not Erebus anymore. Shadow is fine.>

>con't

*shrug*

>>27800435
your not to bright are you. i was agreeeing with you until you said something about using our humanity/temerity for something

"So it is," she agrees. "I'm sure you have some questions. She realized that you were gathering your strength, and sent me a message so that I could speak on her behalf. She's a bit difficult to reach." Valeria smiles. "It's why my grandmother - her grandmother's sister - left the isles, you know. Too much paranoia, too much fear. We decided to live with the earth again - like the times before the Great War."

<...what...when she...what did she...> You have so many questions...but now that the moment has arrived, you find yourself at a loss.

"I see you don't know where to begin," Valeria says. "I'll give you the larger points. When she first encountered you, the queen was with the elites of her royal guard on a mission to eliminate Do'Vak, the terrible. A dragon - summoned by Erebus himself."

<...summoned by Erebus.> A memory strikes you - faded, supressed - of a giant dragon in an even larger hall. Greeting you, as if it knew you...

"Indeed," Valeria says. "In your absence, the dragon was harrassing elvish ships. The isles and the angels have a certain agreement; the elves keep the Black Lady's navy to the northern seas, and the angels leave the elves in peace."

<Did the Lady speak with the dragon?>

"We don't know," Valeria says. "Though it's quite possible. In any case...once she got a better look at you, well..." Valeria gestures over the ground. "Those of us blessed with Earth have a certain advantage over others. We sense Venia more sharply...we sense the motes of existence, the physical, the real. She could feel a disturbance an the Earth where you walked - as if the world buckled slightly, before you. And she knew who you were."

<What did she do to me, exactly?> you ask.

>con't

"She stopped your plan. She sensed the magical directive - the drive to consume to regain power and reunite your separated pieces. You would have had no choice - the hunger would have forced you into obedience. The magic would have chosen a course for you. It would have been quick and effective. What she gave you was a choice."

Valeria gestures with her hands as she speaks. "A Ley Line runs under the Palace of Shadow - key to Erebus's plans, but at the same time, his undoing. She bent the earth back upon you, and overwrote that magical directive. Corrupted it, you might say...scrambled, changed. She sent you out along the same Line, fearful that exposure to the concentrated Shadow in the Palace would undo her work. Just that effort in combating Erebus's magic has rendered her feeble and helpless. I doubt she'll fully recover until his plan is put to rest in its entirety - though she's much better, thanks to you. Well enough to contact me over this distance."

<...you mean how I've changed the Shards.>

Valeria nods. "That's right. She can feel your efforts. As you've changed Erebus's mark upon your being, the pressure on her soul has lessened. It is almost done, now. But we have more problems."

<...Chaos,> you say.

"That's right. Chaos is growing. Magic is growing. The demon lords threaten us all. It isn't enough to just recover all the shards. You have to restore yourself as you were - the Lord of Order. Arbiter of Justice."

<Will that make a difference if I've changed myself so much?>

Valeria shrugs. "If it doesn't, we're doomed anyway. Perhaps that's what we need, Shadow. Not Order, to erase, or Chaos, to grow - but Balance, to preserve. Though how this shall be done is a mystery to me. Us."

<Did you feel the core of Venia?> you ask. <I had to fight my shards to bring them under control. We're holding something back - something that almost got loose.>

>con't

"Chaos," Valeria says. "We don't know everything, be we know that the core of Venia is the source of Chaos - of life itself, really, but the same energies that give us life and motion also threaten to anihillate us. It's true that, with rising magic, we could all become gods - but I doubt it would get that far. The demons would overrun us, first. Reality would bend, and the nether, where magic and imagination run together, would bleed onto the surface. And after that...who knows? But Venia, and our lives, would all end."

Flint whistles. "By the elements. Is this all happening tomorrow? Because we've got a lot of other things on our plate."

Valeria chuckles. "Well, probably not. But we can feel the symptoms already. The increasing power of magic, itself. The shaking of the world. A Pentaverate nearing completion. Some of this can be attributed to the conflicts between men, but not all - no. The Chaos sealed below is not content. It wants out. The nether is its medium; the demons are its agents."

"Are you saying that Chaos itself is against us?" Flint asks.

"...less a being, and more a primal force, I think," Valeria says. "But it might as well be so."

<...then...what do we do?> you ask. <This seems beyond all of us.>

"My cousin had the foresight to compose an answer to that question," Valeria says. "You must return - not as Erebus, but to your full power. Only then do we have the chance at all. A Pentaverate might not be countered by all the mages in the lands."

<How do I do that?>

"The ancient records of intellgence gathered during the war give us clues," she says. "Few ever went to the frozen hand - but we have the Arbiter's testimony. The Leader of the Black Hand."

David, again. <Go on.>

"He was confident about his position, his knowledge," she says. "He relished his relationship with Erebus. He never gave specifics, but in arrogance, he let slip the existence of something beyond Venia itself. We think that this place is where Erebus came from."

>con't

>>27800462
which part? (I feels like Huxley from Too Early for the Future http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff28/beatonna/g_beaton.png)

<Where?>

"The Endless Void," Valeria says.

Flint raises his eyebrow. "The Void? That's been sealed since the Elementomachy."

<...seals can be broken,> you say.

"Indeed, they can." Valeria looks out one of the thin windows of the great hall. "The Skysever permeates this world, but it also surrounds it. A great Wind of storm and thunder keeps Venia shrouded from the Void. It was not always so - once, at the end of the seas, there was a great darkness that stretched into oblivion. Somewhere in that great nothingness is Erebus's true home."

Flint glances at you. "...sounds like a job for the Cirrus." He draws in a breath. "Blackwater's been out that far, hasn't he? Maybe we should ask him for his advice."

"A man of great experience," Valeria admits. "I would seek his counsel."

<Alright,> you say. <Let's say Erebus is from this great nothingness, and his home - and the way to restore my powers - are out there. Where do we even begin to search?>

"You'll have to find that on your own," she says. "But the Palace at the Frozen Hand should have answers. In any case, you'll need the last shard. I sense it lingering there, sitting on a Ley Line. Waiting. It has the same goal as you - just in the opposite direction."

<...I see.>

"I would be most careful," Valeria says. "It has had a long time to gain power. And who knows what waits in Erebus's Palace?"

Flint nods. He folds his arms, then glances at you. "Shadow...if you need to face the shard alone...that's fine. Just - when you go to finish things off, I want to be on the Cirrus. I want to be there for you."

<For now, I think that would be best,> you say. <I have difficulty controlling things when the shards get involved.>

"Once you're back in one piece," Valeria says, "we can swivel to face the threat of Kan-Abar, and its demons. And then, having treated the symptoms, we can put our minds to solving the greater problem."

>con't

>>27800331
...don't you think it's time to start calling them "Shards of Shadow" instead of "New Shards"? I mean, I suppose you could be doing some very subtle hinting that Humanity has its own agenda or something, but if not I think it's probably time.

>>27800480
We reforged Fleet/Breez into a beast, remember? the Contrast afforded the Shard extra bampf. SM, back me up on this one.

<...why would Erebus do all this?> you ask her. <Why was he against the world? Against life?>

"Life on Venia is a product of order, mixed with a dose of Chaos," she says. "A structure of order. A soul of chaos. That is the nature of things. He wasn't against life...no. But he was against Chaos. I think, in his mission to destroy it, he was willing to sacrifice life as collateral."

<Without even blinking?> you ask. <What could possibly drive him so far? What could make him create David, the Arbiter? What could make him set the Black Hand on the world? Why did he cause so much chaos in order to kill Chaos?>

"That," Valeria says, "is a very good question. Perhaps you'll find the answer." She shakes her head. "I, for one, don't care to know. But as it stands, Chaos must be reigned in. Is the extreme position so hard to relate to? From one perspective, it's the method of greatest simplicity."

<...but not right.>

Valeria gives you a warm smile. "I am glad you chose to think so, Shadow. And so is the Queen."

>do you have anything else you'd want to say to or ask from Valeria?
>speak with Young Bull at all?
>write-in

>>27800544
>Is this all happening tomorrow?
Flint, you are the best.

>>27800588
no it didn't fleet is just as strong as breeze and vice versa. neither were a beast, both are an airship

>>27800588

I haven't been following the argument. What's the point being disputed?

>>27800630
"Who is the Black Lady?"

>>27800651
There isn't, he's a ruser.

>>27800651
not even sure, something about using humanity and temerity to create a shrine to use to reforge all our shards to extra uber beyond resonant or something

>>27800630
I dunno. Just glad that Flint decided to not be retarded. Perhaps ask who else knows that we used to be Erebus?

>>27800651
The tripfag is ruselording.

Look at his posts, it gets obvious quick

>>27800651
He's got some weird plan to basically make a second Temerity for a reason I'm not even sure of.

>>27800630
Ask her if we/Erebus is actually the Elemental Lord of Shadow, or if that's just the role we approximated?

>>27800569
>"The Endless Void," Valeria says.
On a scale from 1 to "I called it" I think we know where the truth lies.

>>27800702
>>27800662
I'll second these.

>>27800630
Ask her about Geb.

About Hectate.

About Melody or anyone that might know her and the Staff of Winds.

>>27800702
>>27800662
Dis un' and dis un'

Also if Melody is the Black Lady that means that the Black Lady has literally had the Staff of Winds for over a century which is FUCKING HILARIOUS

>>27800695
>Perhaps ask who else knows that we used to be Erebus?
I can second it

>>27800725
Yeah SM I would prepare for a swarm of questions. You just opened up the library of knowledge to one of the most intricate quests on this board. We're gonna be here a LONG time.

Also if you don't mind SM could you address my question from the last thread? Here:

Yknow SM I was thinking, and I have absolutely no clue if you even remotely planned for this but roll with me here. Would it be possible for us to "learn" Wind Magic by studying the shadow winds contained within our artifact airship? Its just an idea, and I imagine it'd be a science project for a time when the world isn't actually about to implode.

Feel free to answer with can't answer that dave if you must, but I was really curious if that's even a remote possibility or lol nope material.

>>27800725
Especially ask her about Geb.

Y'know what,
why don't we ask her generally about ALL the elemental lords? Leviathan, Hyperion, etc.

>>27800630
<So were you sworn to secrecy regarding all this, or is this a case of my never asking until now?>

>>27800630
<What motivations did the other elemental lords have?>

>>27800772
She wasn't there, elves don't last that long in this setting.

>>27800630
Bring up our suspicion that the Keystone of Atlantis is Leviathan sealed in ball-form.

Also, do >>27800772 because we know next to nothing about these things and they're about to rawdog the world sans-lube.

>>27800763

The 'wind' inside the airship is just an artifact. You can't learn wind magic. I don't like imposing limits, but the skill tree is large enough as it is.

>writing answers to questions

>>27800812
Thanks for the straight answer SM. Just wanted to clear it up. Keep on truckin'.

So who is up for stopping the demon lords after getting wrath?
Since there are 3 right now and are working on a fourth if my memory is right.

>>27800806

The idea that the Atlantis Keystone may be a sealed Leviathan is a good assumption, but highly meta. Shadow doesn't really have enough information to connect those dots; it has never happened in-character. I shy away from that statement.

>>27800806
>Bring up our suspicion that the Keystone of Atlantis is Leviathan sealed in ball-form.

Oh yeah.

Should we also tell her about that weird entity we encountered when we found one of the Shards?

>>27800796
She's lived long enough to know more about them than we do, that's kinda the point.

>>27800845
But we can still ask HER about leviathan, right?

>>27800845
What? I drew the assumption entirely from in world things.

We read about the keystone in a book. Auriel told us what it did, and that it's more powerful than several dynamos.

It's powers are related to water.

Leviathan just went straight up missing.

All of that is in-character knowledge.

>>27800839
We need to head down there for Flint anyway, so I would vote that as our next priority.

>>27800850
ask her about the timorian deep

that shit is important

>>27800882
Anon's got a point here.

>>27800674
>>>27800725
>>27800690
>>27800695
Fucking great wall of ignorance every time. HERE AND I QUITE FROM 72:

You force your mana forward to heal Temerity. His bent and twisted armor unfolds and unbends; his shredded flesh pieces itself back together.

Humanity's light flares. Temerity's darkness swirls. They mix together in a strange twisting dance of light and shadow, and the energy pours into Breeze.

Breeze's wings sprout fresh, and grow again, a glistening web of light and darkness. The regeneration of its body is accelerated a dozen times over. Soon, it is whole, and stronger than ever.

>>27800887
those places are pretty far apart

>>27800906
What was the allusion to this location anyway? Was this a part of David's crazy speech back in the Archonium?

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Shadow Master, we love you. Even when you hurt us.

Especially when you hurt us.

>>27800882
There's also the fact that we know in-character that erebus' plan was to seal his lesser elemental allies.

<b>stronger than ever.</b>

>>27800882

fair enough

>>27800944
Yes, that too.

>>27800920
i see nothing in there that means he is stronger than before

>stronger than ever.
is a term used to mean "st full strength" can be replaced by "healthy as a horse" and other such terms

>>27800934
You're right, I'm tired and confused and distracted.

>>27800967
full strength /= stronger than ever

>>27800939
it was mentioned by auriel, and we skirted the border of it just a bit, and there was that crazy scary thing we noped the fuck away from.

it is one of the reasons no one attacks tarun gakth, there are "too many openings into the timorian deep"

>>27800967
>is a term used to mean "st full strength" can be replaced by "healthy as a horse" and other such terms
That anon is either ruselording or daft, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>27800967
>>27800920
>can't tell if trolling or just stupid, fry.jpg

>>27801003
You mean that vast presence underneath the pool we found Isolation at?

>>27801037
You can simply ignore him. Really. Filters exist for this very reason.

>>27801019
SM, whats the final word on this? This is one more distraction we don't need.

>>27801049

I don't want to just block anyone I disagree with, I want context and I want the truth.

>>27800391
not an XP purchase, guy said something akin to heeling a dog.

>>27801080
I agree with going into the summon route because its cheap and there is a huge fog, but there is no where in hell any exp will be used with hydra being open.
Once its bought people can argue about getting something else.

<...was Erebus ever really an Elemental Lord?>

Valeria shakes her head. "We don't think so. Order masquerades as an eight element of darkness. But the reality is that the seven elements are all shades of chaos; shadow is order. Or, you could say that the seven are all shades of Order, as opposed to pure Chaos. Venia is a unique existence. We stand on a border between two extremes, living on a knife's edge without even realizing it."

<Who is the Black Lady?> you ask. <I've heard so much about her...but so little.>

Valeria shrugs. "That is one of the great questions of our time. No one knows where she came from - she just popped out one day, and the next thing we all knew, the north was united for the first time in hundreds of years."

<Does anyone else know we used to be Erebus?>

Valeria shakes her head. "No. Right now...well. It's a topic that needs to be broached as gently as possible, to say the least."

You glance pointedly over your shoulder to Young Bull, still lingering at the door. You have a feeling werewolves have excellent hearing.

Valeria notices your gaze. "Oh, a simple spell kept all that private. The hall itself is enchanted against prying eyes and ears, as well. Your secret is safe with me."

<I wonder about the other lesser lords,> you say. <I want to find them, and help them. Geb, particularly.>

Valeria seems taken aback. She considers this for a moment. "...Geb. Our Lord Geb." She sighs. "The wind there is a terrible thing, Shadow. The wastes to the south are a sight to behold. I don't know what could help us, there."

<The Staff of Winds might help.>

Valeria glances upward. "...lost to ancient spells."

<I've been to Xile in search of the staff. It wasn't there.>

>con't

>>27801160
Or we'll argue about acquiring what Hydra leads to.

>>27801160
this is about new Erebus shard, not XP

"What? I don't understand."

You explain to Valeria your goal in helping Flint through Yi Fang, and your search for the staff, ultimately ending with the discovery of the fake planted by Melody.

Valeria takes that in for a time. "The Staff is out there, somewhere," she says. "But this Melody...a shadow mage. Powerful. An acquaintance of Yi Fang. Vanished into thin air." Valeria hums in thought. "Perhaps I'm just influenced by recent topics, but she certainly sounds like a candidate for the Black Lady."

<...that's what I was thinking,> you say.

"Maybe. It's stuck as conjecture. If Fang has no more leads, then the only person to ask if the Lady herself. She might be even less approachable than my cousin. As for the other elemental lords...I know little."

<I had thought that there was a chance Leviathan might be sealed in the Keystone of Atlantis,> you say.

Valeria smiles. "You have many thoughts, Shadow. You'd have to check the Keystone yourself. I know little of the subject, but there's a chance you're right. Most scholars believe Leviathan was destroyed or pinned to the bottom of the sea, unreachable."

>more questions?
>things I didn't address?

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Ok, so if you have a meta question, please link it here, in a simple and readable format. I tried going back and figuring out what the hell people were asking but it's spread and fuddled through arguments and multiple posts.

>>27801177
From the looks of it we need to unlock pure darkness and maybe the thing hydra leads to so people will try to finish up more trees since muh poison tree opened up hydra.
>>27801182
Yeah my bad i noticed after i posted.

>>27801188
Let's take some time and meditate. Make ourselves prepared for the battle with Wrath

>>27801188
The Timorian Deep, where we found the Shard of Isolation, we found... -something-.

>>27801223
Seconding questions about spooky scary subterranean secrets.

>>27801188
some guy is asking whether Humanity and old Temetery made a great thing by ubercharging shards. He was caught up on the phrase "stronger than ever"

He also suggested a way to call the Cirrus like a Champion, and that we should mimic something or super stealth when meditating as not to be caught sleeping and a magic umbrella with instant regen shade to match our new tophat.

>>27801188
Ask her about the temorian deep and also what to do about the four greater lords outside of the sky reaver.

>>27801188
>Most scholars believe Leviathan was destroyed or pinned to the bottom of the sea, unreachable.
<I find it unlikely that Leviathan was the only one to be truly destroyed rather than sealed.>

>>27801188
Ask her about her genuine opinion of the countries surround the great forest. Arland, the Empire of Light, Kelvere, Kan-Abar, etc. I'd like to see her perspective on them.

>>27801188
Is there something special about the Element of Light, being that it seems to serve as a foil for Order itself?

Like is it closer to Chaos than other elements?

>>27801247
Yeah we could always hide in someones shadow while we meditated.

>>27801173
Wrath humanized becomes what, Zeal? Fervor? Vehemence? Righteous Fury?

>>27801188
Ask her if there could be a REAL shadow elemental

>>27801188
Ask her of what she knows of flints parasite and about gebs parasite.

>>27801265
but that someone is vulnerable. I say something's shadow

>>27801188
Well, since you're taking meta questions I was wondering if you'd respond to >>27800586, which I'm pretty sure fell under the radar.

>>27801188
Didn't we learn how to make dynamos or did we get lucky?

>>27801272
Humans can be pretty fucking wrathful.

And I'd like to see one shard that doesn't just become straight up nicer from the process. Hell, I'd argue that adding in humanity to wrath can make it more wrathy.

I expect this thing to become Hatred or something like that.

>>27801272
Definitely pulling for righteous fury

>>27801272
Currently speculated Wrath will pull a Silence and wont change.

So

Flint's parasite in Arland
Wrath in the Palace
Pentavirate in Kan-Abar
Leviathan in Atlantis
Geb in a place I'm too lazy to look up, requiring...
-the Staff of Winds, best lead Vampiria
Hecate requiring more keys

We've got a lot of stuff to do in a lot of places.

>>27801272
Well if we're Judgement, then maybe it's Justice. It is the force we enact on the deserving.

>>27801272
Retribution.

>>27801310
Or War.

Would kinda fit with Isolation becoming Peace.

>>27801331
Dont forget "Voyage into the Void with the Cirrus".

You explain to Valeria your brush with the true Timorian Deep, when you encountered Isolation - and the presence you felt there.

Valeria is silent for a time.

"Tarun Gakth is not a natural formation," she says. "It was created in a climatic battle between Geb and Aeolus. Geb tried to defend the dwarves...and ultimately, he failed. The dwarven empire was annihilated." She looks past you, into the distant. "We hated the dwarves, Shadow. Do you know where those names come from? Dwarves, Elves? They're Geb's names for us. In the tongue of the earth...elf, was 'treeling'. Dwarf was 'rockling'. Though we fought amongst ourselves, Geb was a caring Lord who sought peace for us both." Valeria lowers her head. "We should have stood by them. But instead, we watched them die, thinking to have the Lord to ourselves. How selfish. How terrible."

<...and the Deep?>

"The dwarves were destroyed," she says, "but their empire spread deep underground. Their technology and their steel was unmatched. They are gone, but their empire is not." She cups her hands. "Things left behind for so long tend to be like little seeds." Her palms open, and she spreads her arms. "Over time, they grow into great things. I don't know what you felt, but until you are strengthened once more...I'd advise great caution."

>>27801308
I think we learned, we just need a dynamo shell to do it.

Which is why we should loot xile because of the destroyed airships

>>27801272
Names. With all due respect, and all of us here owe you respect, SM, I don't think the names Breeze and Maker are distinguished enough to match the other shards more classy titles. I think "Zephyr" is a literal translation of Breeze would work and for Maker "Origin", "Genesis", "Source" or my favorite "Provenance" would do very nicely.

>>27801331
We should seriously deal with the demon lords since it was stated and hinted numerous times that everything will go to shit once they get 5 of them and there is also the shit going down with the angels we need to find out about.

>>27801345
That actually makes a lot of sense. Kinda hoping for it now.

>>27801373
Same. It's fitting.

>>27801331
And looting xile

>>27801331
Return to Xile for some hardcore grinding and looting?

>>27801348
Ask her about the city 02 and 01.

>>27801345
evil: Malice or Damnation
good: Indignation

>>27801388
>>27801389
Can someone please explain looting Xile obsession to me?

I do not get it.

>>27801331
There is also the dwarf robot cities.
>>27801389
Yeah that place is a treasure trove of stuff, but it has the crazy wind mages.

>>27801414
They just want more SUFFERING

>>27801403
Silence isn't. He should be Peace.
Isolation is about being set apart. I think Distinction would fit better.

>>27801414
It is full of treasure , and air ship parts.

>>27801398
She just told us. They are things grown form the seed of technology left by the dwarves. Great things come from small beginnings and all that.

>>27801414
Dunno. Maybe the don't yet realize that faffing about in the extra dungeon isn't like final fantasy games. The world will move without us. And without us it is doomed.

>>27801414
RPGs require grinding and looting.
Xile offers high level monsters and loot.
Thus the attraction for some.

But no, I think we should seriously consider making more Servants and some Chosen. Things are coming to a head, and we might not have time to do all of these things personally. We should consider making some allies angel-tier powerful and sending them out to do some of these things.

>>27801448
and XP, dont ever forget about XP.

>>27801448
We have a treasure-cube, and I don't think regular airship parts are something we need for the Cirrus.

And the other ships we crashed are beyond saving.

>>27801414
There are piles and piles of gold up there
There are also wrecked airships that may contain dynamo shells
There is also an insane amount of adamatium which (even without reforgeing) is very useful
Must in go on?
There

>>27801467
Sorry Sorry but I'll blockade those ideas with Party Hydra.

>>27801361
Zephyr or Armada.

>>27801442
Isolation was a poor title since he wasn't that antisocial. His new moniker fits his new personality and role far better than his old name represented who and what he was before the change.

>>27801497
After/In-addition-to Hydra, of course.
Hydra is swag and I want it.

>>27801454
True, that is the problem.

There probably won't be a lull in the bullshit until the end of the quest, so no time for that, as fun as it might be.

>>27801474
We know how to make dynamos all we need is the shells and we also need materials to upgrade our construct and make more ships.(maybe make go into the next level if we spend exp on it)

>>27801474
Dynamos and do you really think 1 cube of treasure can do anything towards funding an army? Or settlement?

>>27801512
He was dead silent and stared scratchy darkness at you while screaming and grabbing. Thats pretty fucking antisocial.

>>27801497
Here is hoping the hydra part will let us choose what to upgrade after getting it.

>>27801537
>>27801512
He was also stuck, awake and alone, in a dark cavern since Erebus shattered himself.

>>27801523
Before heading into the viod, we would already have the airship to

>>27801543
here here, Agreed.

>>27801535
>do you really think 1 cube of treasure can do anything towards funding an army? Or settlement?
81 cubic metres of gold and jewels.

Yes.

>>27801535
Considering it was routinely compared by Auriel to what the Ring City had gathered over centuries, yes.
The actual problems with Havens economy however are how they are service-reliant and produce no goods for export.

>>27801553
WIENER WHISTLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JnljzqW1Pmk#t=26

>>27801543
Yeah i do admit that hyda is an awesome power, but it is starting to get annoying.

>>27801474
I think you mean "the other shils we crashed are beyond saving by conventional means". I'm pretty sure if we ever buy Machina Vita some new repair/upgrade options will open up.

>>27801560
Then you seriously underestimate how much an actual army costs.

Not only that but are you seriously saying that it isn't worth it to go get practically FREE treasure?

>>27801601
Machine vita and machina loqui would help things a lot.

>>27801602
The only things we left behind in the treasury were the enchanted items. No one is arguing for the strawman you presented of "saying it's not worth it to get free treasure." Because no one said that.
There's just more important things to deal with in the short term than that.

>>27801256

"Other nations?" she asks. "You are curious. Well...hmm."

"The Empire is little better than the elvish isles - just more power-hungry. I think Sandalphon sees himself as a necessary existence to all of Venia. He's sought to expand and consolidate in the name of peace - but he's just created a nigh-military state.

"Arland is, inevitably, subservient to the larger neighbor."

"We are -not- subservient," Flint grumbles. "They're a valued ally." His face softens. "At least...I thought they were."

Valeria nods to him. "All the same, Arland relies on that protection to maintain independence from Archon. I have nothing against your family, Sir Flint. It was merely an observation."

Flint sighs. "...it's not that far off the mark. Just don't tell Yi Fang I said that."

She chuckles. "I don't plan to." She looks back to you. "As for Kelvere...I was wary of Duke Vellik, fearing that he might expand into the Great Forest in some sort of power play...but now, I just feel pity. And with our alliance, perhaps he'll be more open to friendship, rather than competition.

"Archon...well." Valeria shrugs. "If you know Yi Fang, you know Archon. And I know you know him quite well."

<Too well.>

"As for Felnoir," she continues, "Governor Blackwater - since his election - has always been a friend to the forest. He has a rough-and-tumble past, shall we say, but he's the best of men."

>>27801257

It's just a blend with more chaos, and is hence more antithetical to order.

>>27801284

No. Erebus -is- the shadow elemental. Technically, there is no Shadow element; there are no 'elements' at all, just shades of chaos defined by the seven elemental lords.

>>27801291

Nothing you don't already know about either.

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>meta
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>>27801308

You learned, but only under certain very specific conditions: stabilization apparatus is in place, shell available, etc.

>>27800586

Does it matter?

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>alright, that's good enough
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So...what do you do now?

>>27801592
Juststopp ing people from turning down free gold and jewels.

There is no such thing as too much gold for an army or settlement or really anything.

>>27801636
Let's meditate on our shards, as many as possible, and prepare for our journey.

>>27801602
81 cubic metres of gold is ~$2,032,290,000,000 if you want to put it in terms of now money.

>>27801632
No, aeolus has insanely massive hordes of treasure, it was never said how much was left but he gave the impression that we only got a fraction of it

>>27801636
Suffer from acute decision paralysis.

>>27801668
Well, I wonder what kind of hyperinflation we could cause with that kind of influx of currency.

>>27801673
So now you want to fuck off from our responsibilities to the extra dungeon based on hearsay and "impression," the final answer is SORRY BUT NO THANKS HANK.

>>27801668
1.we don't know the real value of gold there
2. its not just gold but enchanted gear
3.Its free stuff that we can open a Portal to haven and shove through with out much hassle
4.there is exp and ship parts there.

>>27801636
How much treasure was left in Aeoluses horde?

>>27801636
Meditate on shards.
Hammer and Peace.

>>27801721
Seconding. We need our Shards.

>>27801700
It would take less than a day, we have all winter

>>27801700
Yeah no this isn't for personal gain this is to help haven and our friends.

>>27801636
Let's... go get ready for the journey to the Frozen Hand, I guess?

Meditate on shards
Talk to Blackwater
Prep the Nyxystix Abby-Sabbatical Airship #6
Tell important people that we're going to space
Say bye to Abby
And then go to space.

>>27801742
Let's prioritze. We can get the treasure later maybe, but right now Erebus needs to be reforged into something new, and something better. Besides, with all the power we gain from this we'll be able to do a plethora of things. We'll finally have options.

>>27801736
Except we don't "have all winter." What we've learned is we should be setting level priorities for our actions to prepare for long term consequences.

You're literally going after the loot angle CARROT that SM swings in front of you repeatedly to get you into nonsense. Greed vs. Responsibility.

>>27801702
1. Which is why I said it was in terms of "now money"
2. Gear enchanted to attack shadow aligned beings. Guess what the bulk of our forces are.
3. Nothing on Xile is free. Nothing on Xile is without hassle.
4. There is more XP elsewhere. I will give you the airship parts, but I don't see going for them as the best course of action right now. If we want to go for air superiority, it would be more efficient to steal or sabotage enemy ships.

>>27801736
Then we can get it done during a time skip.

>>27801702
>>27801673
>>27801651
While I think we should, at some point, return to Xile (either personally or send some dudes) to get the leftovers.
But we're kind of busy, what with the world being threatened. Treasure isn't really at the top of our priority list.

>>27801750
Loot xile for haven before going to space

>>27801774
He has literally NEVER mentioned that at all, I was the one who brought it up in thefi place after leaving xile

So why do people want to get treasure instead of going after Wrath?

>>27801772
I'm not saying we should go to it first, but we should go to it after getting wrath since it should be quick and easy to finish up.
>>27801777
1.Point taken
2. Half our forces are angels
3.True, but after the power up from wrath it shouldn't be as much trouble as before.
4.Stealing ships would cause to much problems and it is easy exp.

>>27801782
Not our list, but definitely havens

>>27801823
Because RAINBOWS

>>27801823
I'm not advocating on skipping wrath i'm saying we should pay it a quick visit before going after the demon lords.
I don't know about the other two anons.

>>27801807
Actually he did, a long time ago, before we even left Kelvere for Gakuth. It's been a major theme for him ever since to pit instant gratification against measured and responsible decisions.
Literally using things not even two to three threads ago to see how much we'd be willing to risk for base desires.
If you haven't seen that you haven't been paying attention to the context.

>>27801823
No one is saying that, we're saying do it sometime between wrath and space

>>27801829
>I'm not saying we should go to it first
let's deal with what we need to do right now, and worry about treasure later.
We need to pick shards to meditate on, maybe see if we can group meditate them somehow, and then get going.

>>27801829
>2. Half our forces are angels
No. The angels are not half.

>>27801823
Fuck if I know.
Moving on to Wrath after a meditation session is my vote, at the moment.

>>27801636
Maybe a method of picking our poison when it comes to that autofail nat1 of doom

>>27801851
I'm pretty certain that with Wrath being near the edge of the world that we'll go straight from one to the other

Two and a half months of winter remain.

You take Flint back to Haven and inform the relevant people of your conversation with Valeria - Ila and Auriel.

To prepare for your journey, you decide to meditate on your shards.

You decide on Hammer and Resolve, first.

Roll 1d100, six rolls.

Rolled 5

>>27801875
Let's do this.

Rolled 39

>>27801875
DIIIIIIIIICE!

Rolled 36

>>27801875

>>27801636
does a centipede shadowtree gift to Abby give her the ability to grow shadowhand?

Rolled 89

>>27801875
Rolls...this will not end well...

>>27801856
Really i was sure it was mentioned that half our people were angels.
>>27801852
True, we will get to that bridge after dealing with wrath.

Rolled 58

>>27801875
Now is a time for 100's

Rolled 60

>>27801875

>>27801850
Quote it, ill wait

>>27801837
Not collecting the loot for beating a dungeon seems a lot more rainbow like. May be a bad analogy but leaving practically unguarded treasure is stupid

>>27801888
>>27801891
>>27801894
Oh for FUCK's sake.

Rolled 85

>>27801875
Come on 100!

>>27801872
Not really since there is the demon lord problem, and people have agreed to nip it in the bud before everything goes to shit.

Rolled 45, 86, 81, 61, 14, 95 = 382

>>27801875

Rolled 12

>>27801875

>>27801914
At least resolve's doing ok...

>>27801888
>>27801891
>>27801894

Oh, for fuck's sake. How much time do we have to meditate? Can we try again with Hammer?

>>27801875
Would really like this anwsered>>27801714

>>27801925
If only it worked that way because I would totally rather have those rolls.

>>27801907
Not that anon, but it was stated to be one of the reasons the angels aren't out to be in full force.

>>27801907
>Quote it, ill wait
Now you're just being silly, because I'm participating in the thread now I'm not going to faffing about in the archives to prove a point that you're deliberate trying to miss.

We have better things to be doing than xile right now, that's the point.
Quit being obtuse for your greed.

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Wonder what he's gonna look like.

>>27801895

That's not a skill in a magical tree.

>>27801714

Good question.

In the treasure room you found, you took about 85% of the horde up in your pocket.

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A day passes while you meditate. (each shard meditation is a half-day period)

Hammer - Normal

Resolve - Strong

>>27801958
Why would us not getting the treasure/there being treasure have anything to do with the angels. How would they even know?

>>27801987
Let's meditate on Ardor, and meditate again on Hammer, and then we should go

>>27801987
Let's get going to the Palace then.

>>27801987
Is this good enough for wrath folks?

Should we meditate others more?

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>>27801981

Yes. Maybe this?

>>27801987
Alright then, I shall stop arguing for looting xile. Though dynamo shells and airship parts are still valueabl

>>27801987
Ardor and Hammer again?

Ardor and Hammer got a good quick consensus.

Meditation rolls! 1d100, six total

>>27802003
My bad i misread what you were trying to say, so yeah it being winter should not stop us from clearing the place out after dealing with wrath.
>>27802017
Lets get all the shards nice and good since we use them often and having them strong should stop bad rolls.

Rolled 51

>>27802060
Dice hurr dice hurrrrr

Rolled 82

>>27802060

Rolled 71

>>27802060
rollan'

Rolled 49

>>27802060

Rolled 48

Keep in mind that if we roll terribly the shards will be what takes the brunt of the force for saving us, even with crit saves.
So having so many that are only at normal strength probably isn't best for keeping the chaos within the world in check.

>>27802060
oh, okay, yay!

Rolled 93

>>27802060
Shard Time!

Rolled 12

>>27802060

Rolled 67

>>27802060

>>27802077
>>27802079
>>27802081
>>27802082


we did ok this time guys

Rolled 97

>>27802103
this time....

Rolled 78

(Silence)
(Peace)
Lets do these two since we use them alot.
(what would we use breeze maker and resolve fore?)

Rolled 15

>>27802060

Rolled 86

>>27802060
>>27802113

Oh, so close.

>>27802136

Breeze is for gotta go fast

...Strategies for fighting a wrathful incarnation of erebus?

We know ink makes us slippery. Maybe slide him off a cliff?

Rolled 16

>>27802136
Breeze goes fast.

Resolve is, I assume, like Temerity in that if things go tits up he rolls double 20s and nukes shit with Void Ring.

Maker a shit. Although he seems to be competent with Earth Forge

You meditate upon Ardor and Hammer, determined to build your strength.

Another day passes.

Ardor - Empowered
Hammer - Strong

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(Maker) - Normal
(Silence) - Normal
(Peace) - Normal
(Breeze) - Strong
(Hammer) - Strong
(Ardor) - Empowered
{Resolve} - Strong
{Humanity} - Resonant

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You've taken a position up in the corner of Haven, up on the bluff where they took the stone for the fortress. It's peaceful, there. You're glad to have a chance to yourself every once in a while.

What do you do now?

>further meditation
>let Flint and Auriel know you're headed out, then get moving to the Palace
>let them know you're headed out, then teleport to the mana pool you vaguely remember in the Palace

Rolled 49

>>27802136
Resolve: shadow magics

Breeze: in assume anything using the airship

Maker: earth magic? I have no clue

>>27802164
We should just go full magical fuckery since he's likely our berzerking physical shard.

>>27802164
I expect Berserking from him.

So I suggest we run like a motherfucker and fast blink around while we fling shit at him.

>>27802164
I think we should get our shards to be strong first.
So is it confirmed that wrath is summon?
>>27802183
>>further meditation
Peace and Silence.

>>27802183
Wouldn't peace be a very good shard to meditate on? If we're going against wrath. And it was formerly isobro..

Rolled 60

>>27802183
>>let them know you're headed out, then teleport to the mana pool you vaguely remember in the Palace

>>27802183
>let them know you're headed out, then teleport to the mana pool you vaguely remember in the Palace
Let's slip in through the energies of order, and I hide ourself among the shadows. We can explore the palace while we hunt Wrath

>>27802183
>let them know you're headed out, then teleport to the mana pool you vaguely remember in the Palace

>>27802187
Breeze is go fast. Why do people think it's related to the airship when we got it after we got the airship?

>>27802183
Peace and Resolve

>>27802183
Peace and Silence

>>27802191
>>27802189
So maker and breeze would work great against him, and maybe silence for sneak attack with peace for shields.

>>27802183
>let them know you're headed out, then teleport to the mana pool you vaguely remember in the Palace

We can check out that altar from the beginning of the quest with any luck.

>>27802183
>further meditation
Yeah nah we got fucked over too many times because we rushed out.
Peace and Silence

Maker is primarily to boost to Summoning. Also bolsters alternative magics; Spirit, Water, Earth.

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meditate on Peace and Silence

Roll 1d100

Rolled 97

>>27802249
Here we go. Hope I don't 1 it.

Rolled 40

>>27802249
If you so require...

Rolled 8

>>27802213
Because it is the shard of us like hammer, like the moonsong blade. A shard made from artifacting. We literally got it from the airship right after artifacting it. Where else would a randomshard come from?

Rolled 58

>>27802249
'ere we go again

Rolled 4

>>27802183
>further meditation
This is our strongest shard to date, and i want us to be in top condition for him.
>>27802249

Rolled 3

>>27802256
>the second 97 I've rolled this thread

>>27802249
Let's try again then.

>>27802183
>let them know you're headed out, then teleport to the mana pool you vaguely remember in the Palace

Weren't we supposed to talk to Blackwater and then fly to it on the Cirrus?

Rolled 58

>>27802249
Probably gonna be low.

Rolled 8

>>27802249
>>27802270
Strongest shards

>>27802264
It literally told us that Temerity sent for it.

>>27802276
That's for entering the void maybe

>>27802191
>>27802189
>>27802164

I expect on of our go-to spells, Spirit Bind, to be less useful here. He can probably break right out of anything but a really well-rolled bind.

Initiate from stealth, and stay in stealth as long as possible. If discovered, keep Fast Blink running to stay away. Perhaps Earthforge walls to LoS him, and use them to set up opportune strikes from cover.
If we can get access to water, that would be a great way to soften his blows and slow him down (while he's maintaining a physical, cohesive form - he should be able to ink through the water quickly, but he can't hit us terribly hard without reforming).
Kinda wishing we had Shadowbomb and the abilities beyond it - the tactics Silence used during our first battle would be ideal here.

>>27802270
>>27802273
Silence you are still an ass.

>>27802276
We're going to the Palace alone, for the safety of everyone else. The Cirris was for exploring the edge of the world, as suggested by ElfCousin.

Rolled 9

>>27802249
Rolling one last time

There seems to be a slight confusion. Let me clear this up.

The Palace of Shadow at the Frozen Hand was Erebus's base. It is where the shard of Wrath is waiting.

The void is beyond Venia entirely. Everyone is correct in seeking Blackwater's guidance (he's been to the end of the world, literally) and sailing the Cirrus into space.

The Palace and Space are two different places. You don't need anything special to get to the Palace - it's a place in Venia, far to the north.

Rolled 53

>>27802282
It told us that It spoke to temerity, and it literally said that it came out of the ship.

If your right then where is our shard for artifacting the cirrus?

>>27802299
I'm like 90% sure Flint said he wanted to be nearby while it happened

Rolled 79

>>27802264
>>27802270
>>27802273
>>27802281
>>27802308
>>27802249

The dice, they be cursed, man.

>>27802293
Since we fixed up almost all the shards should we do resolve and maker since maker boost our normal magic attacks and resolve is our oh shit shard.

>>27802321
On the Cirris. Not the Palace. Read the post ITT again.

>>27802313
Aaah, that makes sense.

I thought the Palace of Shadow was in space.

So what's the likelihood that Wrath is going to use Titanic?

>>27802313
What Is breeze used for? Or is it for the airship?

>>27802321
Not to be meta or anything, but as long as that 1 hangs over our heads I'm scared as shit to bring anyone anywhere near us ever.
[/spoiler]Not that it matters, SM has shown that he's willing to fuck with our friends off-screen[/spoiler]

>>27802360
>[/spoiler]
that's a special kind of failure...

>>27802344
... Shit

>>27802360
I suck at spoilers

>>27802320
No it didn't. It said that Temerity called for it and that it had been to the palace at the Frozen Hand.

How could it have been from the ship if it's been to the palace.

There is no shard from artifacting the airship. We got the artifact ability when we took Moonsong back into us. The airship is an extension of Hammer.

>>27802383
ctrl+s

>>27802383
Highlight want you want to spoil, and click ctrl + s

>>27802360
He's obviously going to use it to kill one of the party members, and we probably can't stop it, so let's just see how it plays out and SM if you kill Flint I will find you, I swear to god I will find you.

>>27802385
No it isn't, moonsong was erebuses artifact.

Let's get clarification from SM on this cause I'm to tired to argue

>>27802415
It won't be flint or abby it will be some one else.

>>27802344
Very likely. Mofo' s going to be a straight combat build. Might have berserk and DW too.

>>27802344
Honestly, I'm not too scared of Wrath beating us into physical submission.
We have most of the physical abilities. He's not going to throw something at us that we haven't seen, or that we can't meet with equal or greater force. And we have all the shards backing us. If we want to be lazy, we could straight-up manfight him and I'd bet on us winning with even mediocre rolls.
I'd just rather use some finesse.

>>27802429
No, the Moonsong was Sword shard.

An actual shard that Erebus took out and gave to Dave.