AQUAMARINES

I'd start by kraken a joke to break the ice.

>>27776983
tentacle marines fallen to slaanesh, rapey and slimey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260oetpb9mM

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Make them fight like void krakens. Ruthless ambushes that, once sprung, don't stop until the enemy is dead...so basically Raven Guard.

>>27777055
This. Specialize in space combat, brutal ambushes, raiding enemy ships and killing the living shit of them.
Maybe throw in some viking references or something.

Place them somewhere on the edge of the Imperium, maybe next to some minor xenos who they can raid to keep them from expanding. Alternatively, have them help defend the area around the eye of terror as a spaceborn chapter. Imperium always needs people defending round the eye of terror

>>27777055
>>27777087

This... is SO awesome and I'm going to do this.

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>>27777227
Here, have the other half of the beastery entry.

>>27776983
Space Wolves successor

>>27777310

Space Octopi?

Why does this sound like a Slaaneshi chapter?

>>27777323
I'm not sure those marines have seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

>>27777323

Tentacles. Tentacles everywhere.

>>27777310

Bought some spess wuff plastics to mix with my normal marines.

Iron Tentacles maybe?

>>27777087
We're talking real vikings here. Not the Space Wolves kind where everyone's a less hairy werewolf, but dragon prows on their ships, ornate armor, raiding enemy fortifications and retreating in their enormous fleets, all that jazz.

>>27777055
Emperor's teeth!

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>>27777055
tl;dr

>>27779719
Giant space monster nom ship

Fleet based, that specializes in boarding action with dark purple armor, a gene seed mutation that causes eyes to become highly rounded, battle cry that involves grasping or gripping the enemy.

>>27779778
I'm imagining something like the ghost captain from Pirates of the Caribbean.

Rounded eyes (I guess). Some mutation that makes the mucranoid (skin sealer?) organ hyperactive. May be helpful for a spaceborne chapter.

In keeping with the viking-squid pirate theme they may prefer axes and power scourge for close combat.

>>27777439
And slaves. Or rather, thralls.

Vikings were big on slavery.

Sons of Dagon.

>>27779778
Fleet-based, dark purple and green (pattern looks like scales) armor. Gold heraldry. Most of the ornaments are in form of octopuses - even their helmets look like squids, with tentacle beards.

>>27780022
Round, pitch black eyes - perfect for seeing in the dark. Utterly pale skin, hairless bodies. Rumored that the older members look almost fish-like.

>>27780432
Taken from the liberated worlds as payment for their services, and to leave them alone. The ships are filled with countless slaves that toil for their marine overlords.

bump

They should, of course, be mortal enemies of the Red Corsairs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWKpDSSKhgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPFUgI0CIY

>>27779719
You do realize that you're on /tg/ right now?

>>27776983
The Star Krakens

Naval/Boarding/Ambush specialists

>>27780756
The appearance you describe makes them look too much like space sharks/ typhon of the red wake

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Why would You make a chapter when you have perfectly good legion?
Iron within iron without!

>>27788012
The Carcharodons look like Deep Ones?

The Thousand Arms, a chapter with a history of awarding additional arms to marines instead of medals. The current Chapter Master is rumoured to have amassed eight arms in addition to his original two.

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>>27788103
You what?

They could have a lot of tech priests with them - it's necessary to be able to repair the ship on the move, after all, and each one of them comes equipped with numerous servo-arms attached to a rather large backpack, making them look like giant squids.

>>27788366
Pretty sure that'd be heresy broI like it

Maybe something like a large number of the marines having mechandrite tentacles or something would be less weird? Maybe the first company has a bunch of them because they need more points of contact/hands when they walk on the exterior of ships in the void?

>>27788465
So, Dr Octopus Marines? Just with more tentacles and dakka.

They approach an enemy ship, latch onto it from outer space, and tear the plates asunder before rushing in and cutting down everything. Once they make a breach in the hull large enough, their ships fire enormous anchors into the breach, and thousands of slaves begin pulling on the giant chains to bring the attacked vessel in for a proper raid.

>The Iron Krakens

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Holy shit this entire thread

>mfw this thread still exists
>all my threads have about 5 comments before they 404

>>27791849

>mfw that's the name of my chapter.

>>27780756
Over the years the Marine's teeth should fuse together, leaving veterans with beak-like appendages beneath their lips.

>>27791908
Yes

Did you name it post-thread?

>>27780756
Round eyes with those freaky vertical pupils

>>27791908

>not taking

>>27783866

You had such potential

>>27791963
Veterans prefer wearing constantly wearing their ornate helmets (they appear to have beards made of tentacles) to keep their mutations hidden away from their subordinates.

Librarians wear heavy robes over their armor, and utilize many powers that focus on causing fear and paranoia in their enemies. Their psychic powers manifest with a strange sound, similar to a whale's song, that's accompanied by a sense of drowning and immediate death.

For shit and giggles, we can have the Dreads equipped with power drills, anchor launchers and those antique diving helmets.

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>an entire Chapter dressed like Victarion Greyjoy

HOOOOLY SHIT FUCK YES

>>27788465
Techmarines abound in the chapter and rank is signified by additional mechadendrites. Scouts have no mechadendrites, while battle brothers have two that are tipped by basic tools to facilitate breaching walls and bulkheads. As rank increases the breaching tools become more sophisticated and additional mechadendrites ending in weaponry are added.

...what are their Chaplains like?

This is important.

>>27792014
Nah don't do that thing with the Dreadnoughts

Have them covered in wires that look like seaweed, they can only speak to the Librarians in whale song, and have them use mauls and clubs

>>27792014
>>27792061

Actually keep the anchor launchers, make them shoulder mounted so they can board ships using the anchors as grappling hooks

For ships I think they should be light and fast, like the Viking longships.

>>27792036
You know, I'd love them to be inspired by Ahab - wielding a harpoon, utterly devoted, and claiming how, in their quest to emulate the monsters of the deep, they themselves must never become monsters. That's why the harpoon is there - not as a warning to their enemies, but as a warning to the young marines in their charge.

>>27792061
Drop the wires that look like seaweed, and add some ornate armor with squids and other beasts of the deep etched into it.

Maybe they have a power flail or scourge as a melee weapon? Or would that work better with the Chaplains, who wield them alongside their power harpoons?

>>27792036

Robes, Tridents and heavily ornate helmets.

Their philosophy is probably inspired by similar aspects of life/philosophy like the Drowned Priests:

Transcending "life" as is to become true incarnations of death upon the enemy
>What is dead may never die

Believing the great void that is deep space is not your enemy, but the storms that quell it are.
>implying "do not fear the warp, fear only the emotions that stir it"

Hate all things stagnant/constructive, only the the constant travels through space and dedication to a life "with the tide" is worthy to be pursued

>Focus on fleet based chapter philosophy to indoctrinate your marines into never feeling homesick.

>>27792090
Fuck yes.

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>>27792090
My God

>>27792061
Too cheesy looking. Lots of rivets, chainmail mesh hanging off to which their honors are attached, power claws, and they speak in the various NOAA unexplained sounds.

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>>27792107
>Dreadnoughts speaking using the Bloop

All the Dreadnoughts are Ironclads.

All of them.

>>27792014
>>27792061
>>27792073
>>27792083
>>27792107

I like the idea of Dreadnoughts having both Anchor launchers and scourges to be used in boarding actions.

however I would let them be able to communicate like regular beings - Except for maybe their speakerboxes being damaged as to distort their voices into a near unintelligible rumbling as if they spoke from out of the depths.

>>27792159
I like this more

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>>27792145
I know exactly why I have this boner.

They could have enormous light sources mounted on their back, kinda like lighthouses or something. Or deep-sea angler fishes.

>>27792136
It's not the Bloop, or the Julia, Slowdown, Train, Upsweep, Whistle, itself. It's the complex code created by the duration and switching of infra, regular, and ultrasound. It allows for massive amounts of information to be communicated in small amounts of time. It is said that the insult poetry battles between the honored dreadnoughts are reason enough to learn the highly complex language.

>>27792090

Initiates and veterans alike stood and awaited in the Barges main cargo deck. To other, more ostentatious marines this would not do as a suitable pulpit for a chaplain but they do not have the traditions the Iron Krakens do for every sermon is a reenactment of the day their leader, Master Captain Ahab addressed the marines under his charge the thoughts that drove him before he and his honor guard set out to meet the Mobius, a traitor who's Apotheosis into Daemonhood grew him to the size of a ravenous beast of legend and even now tore ships asunder and devoured the souls of their occupants within

Couldn't think of anything..Good start? Maybe someone more competant in Moby dick could work off of this

>>27792159
Expanding off my idea here >>27792205, the Dreads can speak normally, they just have a specialized language to facilitate rapid communication during battle.

>>27792205
> "NOOEEEAAAWWWROOOOOO"
> "Brother Chaplain, the venerated Dreadnoughts, they are singing!"
> "WWRRROOOOUUUUUUMMM"
> "No, Brother Scyllus, they're calling each other dicks again."

>>27792145
I prefer the Contemptor but Ironclads iare pretty cool dudes too.

Veterans are known for their ability to enter a sleep-like trance, neither dead or alive, during which they'll heal their wounds, cure any poisons, and according to some rumors, gain visions of the future or things that happened long ago. The Iron Krakens are very secretive about this, claiming it to be a gift from the Emperor whose sleep they emulate. The Light of the Golden Throne, they say, is a lighthouse of strength in the dark, stormy night through which they have to wade.

Some of the oldest members enter the Deep Slumber, a unique trance, where they'll sleep for tens if not hundreds of years, until they awake on their own, claiming that the Stars were right for them. When they do wake, they remember events that haven't occurred, horrible battles, and other things they shouldn't have any knowledge about. Because of this, many of them are avid practitioners of the Emperor's tarot - claiming that they need to know when their next slumber is.

>>27792223
>BBBBBRRRRRWOOOOOOMMMMMM!
>Sergeant, what wisdom did the venerated Dreadnought impart upon you?
>A complete genealogy of my family going back nine generations and how all of them were either some variety of prostitute or homosexual. Come brother, and let us not speak of this again.

>>27792284

Could be a trait unique to their Librarians?

Also, should the chaplains and tech priest be merged into one group or kept seperate?

>>27792216

A bit weird and rushed, but definitely something to work with.

>>27792340

I'd say because the entire chapter is involved in the fleet based activities, there should be no techmarines - All the marines are constantly trained and tested in maintaining their weaponry while the Chaplains do all the religious aspects of appeasing the machine spirits.

>>27792343
Maybe Ahab is the Chapter Hero? Old Chapter Master, wielded a power spear in a battle against an enormous monster, died in the battle to provide the rest of the fleet time to relocate. Hunting for shards of the spear is a sacred duty of the Iron Krakens.

>>27792340
Separate. Chaplains care for the purity of mind and purpose, not for the tools used.

>>27792340
Yeah don't have the whole Chapter be able to do it. And make it "death-like," not "sleep-like," if we're going with the Drowned Men idea

What would be their origin chapter, ruleswise?

Think of either Raven guard or Iron Hands.

They where originally Imperial Fists, since they are my favourite chapter

>>27792359
Well, they have innumerable slaves and servitors aboard, maybe they have techmarines whose duty is taking care of some specialized technology and the ship's systems? Every marine is trained to take care of himself and his equipment, techmarines and their servitors take care of specific systems and ships, while the chaplains deal with the entire ship?

>>27792410
Raven Guard. Maybe somehow related to those experiments Corax did all those years ago?

>>27792340
I think it best to keep it just Librarians.

>>27792359
There should be a few techmarines, but they usually stick to the ships, guiding and training new marines, and focusing on the mundane and day-to-day struggle of keeping a fleet based chapter running. More chief engineer than anything.

>>27792410
Well the thread's making them closer to Raven Guard, tactics-wise. That and the paleness

Maybe their homeworld is some nightmarish ocean world with really harsh islands, and that's where their Fortress-Monastery is, like a giant lighthouse, and they recruit the baddest of the bad from the pirate bands that roam the seas

>>27792410
White Scars maybe?
[/spoiler]it's never white scars [/spoiler]

Battle cry?

>>27792410
I would say Night Lords since they share that whole "terror warfare" aspect, but, well... Chaos Legion and all that

>>27792433

They could send their scouts to shang-hi potential recruits

>>27792433
Fleet based chapter. They have no homeworld.

Maybe some asteroid field, where they hide and plan raids on the enemy?

>>27792465

Could be cursed founding. Where they used Night Lords Geneseed.

They still HAVE traitor geneseed, pure and undiluted, stored somewhere on Terra.

>>27792433
>giant lighthouse fortress

Oh I like this very much

>>27792451

Unearthly howls, frightning roars. Not World Eater roar, but something soft and dark.

Something very, very frightning.

>>27792366
If you've actually read Moby Dick, or the Bible, you'd know Ahab would be a terrible Chapter hero. A better use for him would be a significant figure in the Chapter's history that brought ruin to the Chapter.

>>27792512
>brought ruin to the Chapter
B-but the Chapter hasn't even been founded yet

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Why make a chapter when you can have a perfectly good legion?
Iron within Iron Without!

>>27792433
The paleness and weird adaptations could be explained by their homeworld's human life largely living in dimly lit ocean-floor geo-domes, the living conditions of which would be comparable to life permanently aboard a Spaceship, hence them being a fleet-based chapter.

As for the reason these people are recruited their individual geo-domes could function as independant city-states which war incessantly over mineral and fishing rights on the sea-floor.

Urban warfare in such an environment would be like a boarding action on a submarine combined with the battle of Stalingrad.

Warriors adapted for such warfare would have many skills applicable in spaceship boarding actions.

>>27792508
>>27792451

In Darkness Dwells!

>>27792508
So like a rhythmic, wordless chant?

>>27792512
Maybe as a warning against ridiculous zeal?

>>27792538
Drowned gargling.

>>27792538
yes.
>>27792531
yes.

>>27792541

Yeah, I can dig that. A warning against becoming like the leviathans they hunt

>>27792519
At some point in the history of the Chapter.

>>27792508
Something like this?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2bVbDtiX8

>>27792541
Or blind fury and going berserk. Going against monomania

Since they're meant to be an ambush-based chapter, storming blindly into battle would go against all they value tactically

>>27792508
How about something like "The Bloop" broadcast over all enemy communication frequencies?

Suddenly every radio-sensitive piece of enemy equipment begins rumbling and gurgling.

>>27792508
So like the chants in this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGyZTnMOWIM&t=0m30s

What if their home territory is a huge, dense spatial nebula full of asteroids and strange gravity currents as a result of Warp instability? The clouds of gas are so thick that even the light of suns cannot pierce far, making the entire region a zone of thick, Stygian darkness.

Their flagship has a massive lighthouse-shaped prow and guides the rest of their fleet through the Deep.

The chapter recruits from local pirate gangs- local space pirate gangs. If they can successfully navigate the dangers and asteroid reefs of the Deep, they are worthy for consideration as potential recruits.

>>27792528
Aren't we making them a fleet-based chapter like the Blood Ravens?
They could have one enormous fortress monastery in an asteroid field shaped like a lighthouse.

>>27792552
If you go with Biblical Ahab you get political meddling and possibly Chaos, if you go with Moby-Dick Ahab you get obsession and behavior that goes against what the Chapter/Imperium stands for.

>>27792547
The full quote is, "In Darkness Dwells the People Which Knows Its Annals Not."

>>27792587
They have slaves aboard, why not select from them? The slaves were given as payment for their services by the worlds and ships they've helped protect, and each one has the potential to become one of the brothers, if he has the right mindset and skills for it.

>>27792587
one little thing wrong with that, aspirants are normally about 12-13 years old. are there gangs of child space pirates now?

>>27792619
Huh. I was under the impression SM chapters recruited from a fairly wide variety of age ranges.

>>27792595
No, the asteroid field itself is the fortress monastery. Separated into dozens of smaller fortresses capable of maneuvering to meet threats and capped with "lighthouses" which are Lance battery arrays.

>>27792587
Holy shit this is cool

>maraudan as a pirate after a successful raid
>suddenly a huge battle barge with a giant light on the prow bursts from behind a pitch-dark gas cloud
>Get boarded by demigods in kraken helms
>Quaking in fear, the Kraken speaks: "YOU NAVIGATE THE DARK AS A DEEP-DWELLER WOULD. YOU ARE WORTHY OF THE KRAKENS."
>>27792628
They do, so it could work.

>>27788103
>>27792524
stop this

They stood in almost complete darkness, silent save for the subtle rustling and shifting of their armour plate and mechadendrites. The vast launch bay was almost totally unlit save for the eerie glow of the Chaplain's armour, it's bioluminescent engravings wavering and shifting like moonlight through seawater.

"Remember!", Chaplain Teuthys whispered, his voice rippling through the silence.

"Remember Ahab. Remember his sins. He was weak. He succumbed to obsession. He succumbed to the desire for vengeance. He succumbed to warlust, and his passion weighed him down like a great stone.

Ahah drowned himself! Ahab nearly drowned his chapter with his hubris. But we, the pure... We do not drown. Our lungs are full of saltwater and our eyes stare into the dark. We do not down. WE RISE."

The air reverberated with the slow moaning rumble of the Dreadnoughts as they sang the Hymn to the Deep.

>>27792512

Ahab is the Chapter master who, through his ruthless behaviour, nearly destroyed the chapter and a large portion of their designated territorium.

In a fit of angry zeal, his elites (read: The first company) banded together against him and threw him out the airlock where he was immediately torn to shreds by Space Squids.
The chapter is now run by a council of each company's / designated unit type's headmen (much like a Viking "Thing", a meeting of designated rulers or "free men") to determine their next targets and the fate of the Iron Kraken (I'm still vowing for Star Kraken, btw.)

>>27792673
The price for their aid in naval battles is salvage rights to destroyed Navy vessels and to take from the naval vessels children that meet their standards of recruitment.

>>27792696
I like Star Krakens too. There's too many "Iron" Chapters as it stands now.

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>>27792695
Holy shit this is too much

their armour should be simple; mainly unpainted armour (so bare metal) with yellow shoulder pads.

They "earn" their yellow as they gain in rank, so scouts only have camo (obviously), Devastators only have yellow shoulder pads, Assault marines have yellow kneepads, etc.

Only here is the twist.

They must each tend to their own equipment and such as we discussed before, but their armour seems to rust more easily than normal, almost as if it is kept under water for long periods of time.

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Chapter Master?

>>27792742
See >>27780756

>>27792673
The lighthouse needs to be an important part of chapter tactics in emergencies. Like, it's not just a really bright light source- it's also a piece of archaeotech electronic-warfare equipment. Being hit by the beam at full power will hijack and overload the navigational and sensor systems of just about any spacecraft.

That would make this >>27792573 make a lot of sense.

>>27792762
But why scales if they're modeled after krakens?

Make their armor like ink-black

as far as armour colour goes I think either unpainted, gunmetal grey or metallic dark green/blue.

>>27792774
Holy fuck, imagine them fighting Tyranids using that kind of shit

>>27792696
Nah, the remnants of the chapter abandoned him to his death at the hands of the enemies that he made. Maybe they weren't always fleet-based and, though Ahab's obsessions and ruthlessness, lost their original homeworld in a cataclysmic battle.

>>27792742

Hmmm, nyäh, I prefer the purple/bioluminescent combo with heavy flowing ornaments.

Also, any preferred weaponry as of yet? I'd actually say being a boarding-specialist chapter that's known to crush their foes through tenacity and not necessarily through brutality, they should keep focus on the standard issue bolter + maybe boltpistol/power sword - Stormshield/Powersword-comboes.

Or lots of Combi-weapons.

Can't have enough combi-weapons these days.

>>27792752
Call him Deepfather and we're good

>>27792809

I remember seeing a picture with IF wielding shields and Bolters, so maybe that can be their main thing.

Special boarding shields that can link together and form barracades to fight behind, then you can de link them and advance closing in on your targets.

>>27792802
The homeworld has to be called Mobius.

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>>27792829
This one?

>>27792802

Okay, that works just as well or even better depending on how you draw the concepts out.

But can we have my idea of a council instead of a succeeding chapter master for more viking-ness in their design?

>>27792776

Well, "Kraken" is just the most prominent piece of heraldry, but their overall theme is "scary and awe-inspiring deep sea creatures".

I even suspect some troops having goblin shark -related heraldry.

>>27792840

Yeah, that's the one.

>>27792752
>"Do you fear death'a!?"

so who's the founding chapter? Imperial Fists, Raven Guard, Iron Hands, White Scars, something else?
and have we actually decided on a name yet?

>>27792587
Battle cry:
From the depths, we come!

We are unrelenting like a tide unleashed!

Deep-Born! For the Emperor.


They call themselves Deep-Born when in company of each other.

They should also have a custom of alliance for other astartes, where the one asking for help must prove their worth by the Hunt; two champions one of the Deep-Born the other of the requesting chapter are given a week to go out hunting a void kraken and they become blood brothers or return alone with the other's gene seed, if the Deep-Born dies and his gene-seed returned, the alliance is certain, if the Deep Born returns alone the chapter has no interest in helping, if they both return all haste is made toward the requesting chapter.

>>27792833
Moebius Rikharthu.

>>27792871

Iron Krakens.

>>27792840
why does that imperial fists marine have the komnenid family crest on his shield? and the other a medieval monk?

>>27792871
Star Krakens

Founding Chapter: Night Lords (rumored)

>>27792888
you try telling him he's not allowed it

>>27792873
>2 Astartes taking down a Void Kraken

Too much.

>>27792742
Ceramite doesnt rust unless Nurgle. So that makes no sense.

>>27792885
I enjoy this, though i'd prefer the idea of them being essentially like the real vikings rather than Space Wolf style KRAKEN the KRAKENS KRAKKENSSON.
Just putting that out there before we go into that territory

>>27792673
>>27792587

Oooh! War gear idea!

Every piece of Space Kraken equipment, from Scout armour to the Lighthouse itself bears a special defensive armament known as a Deep Caul. This device is little more than a high-density pressure tank, full of the gas from the Deep itself, the nebula the Krakens call their home. This substance is almost impervious to light, and seems to have jamming effects on most other forms of electromagnetic radiation. In combat, Krakens activate their Cauls to level the playing field- they are trained to fight blind in the a Deep, but their enemies are seldom prepared to fight in total, inky darkness.

>>27792913
Spitballing. What about a spawnling?

>>27792923
Squid ink tactics

I like it

>>27792894
just my opinion but traitor founding is played out, overdone in homebrew chapters and just kind of boring
>>27792930
doesn't have to be a void kracken, just some sort of nasty space beastie

>>27792922
Yeah. Raven Guard aren't Ravens. Iron Krakens shouldn't spit ink or have other sillies. I know its 40k we're talking about but still

>>27792847
Sounds good, but perhaps there should be a "first among equals" position to help smooth out the politics.

>>27792711
Other names for giant sea creatures include Hafgufa, Lyngbakr, and Jasconius.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Abyssal_Jaws

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Black_Locks

>>27792947
I was just thinking based on similar tactics

Maybe Raven Guard then, that was my second choice

>>27792922
What about Myrmidons? Astral Myrmidons, Void Myrmidons?

What is the chapters company designation? Are they called company? Is their fleets called shoals?

>>27792795

As the Hivefleet entered the nebula, thousands of seemingly far a way lights suddenly burst into action, creating a grid of thin rays that fanned out like a fishing net cast into the tides.

As the first ships started to pass them, suddenly the Hivemind was disrupted and all the lesser Tyranids began to break formation in panic, seeking guidance from a voice that was not there, anymore.

And then they came out of the deep dark.

The Krakens, the space marine chapter designated to protect this sector, came in their ships decorated with horrifying visages of creatures that haunted the deep oceans, and their combined fire blasted with righteous fury into the swarm of the Devourer.

Seeing no chance to enter this zone without great losses at this time, the greatest of the hiveships began to retreat, calling all of the lesser beings who could listen through the Net and vanished into the nothingness.

Okay, so. Just to nail things down.

Are they the Star Krakens or the Space Krakens?

Their former home world was named Möbius?

Their flagship is the Lighthouse?

They're based out of a dark nebula called the Deep?

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>>27780756
>>27788012
And they would be enemy's of the Space Sharks because of creative license!

>>27792982
that's an odd way of saying BFFs

>>27792981
Star Krakens
Yes
Yes
Yes

>>27792947
What about a void worm? A huge semi-sentient worms about thirty or forty meters long that live in the asteroid clusters that litter the area near their Deep-Holme

>>27792923
>>27792930
You and you
>>27792959
See this.


WE DON'T WANT A CLICHE PEOPLE!

>>27793000
Yes we do.

>>27793000
Yeah don't go too overboard, guys

Kraken "themed," not "Squids in power armour"

>>27793000
How the fuck is any of the part of hunting a void worm with a allied Chapter to prove their worth become cliche? These motherfucking SM do this kind of shit all the time.

>>27793023
Your post wasn't linked there.

>>27792962

"First among equals" is sort of the "Germanic Thing"-thing - A gathering of all free men allowed to voice their opinion on an issue, be it law, war or other matters that concerned the whole tribe / collective of tribes in an area.

However I thought having the entire chapter debate over something might be a tad bit coutner productive - So that's why I came up with the bit about having the headmaster of each group participating represent that group in the meeting.
It may however be that this "headmaster" is chosen by his fellow brothers as the best representative.

>>27792965
I was just about to link the Jaws.
Am I the only one who loves those glorious bastards?

>>27793000
Writer of the ink idea here.

Fair enough. That said, I didn't do anything like make them have organic ink-shooters or anything.

My original concept was that they have torpedoes that flood enemy vessels with supercooled saltwater, or something like that.

>>27793000
Okay then. The Deep Caul, being high density space gas, instead creates a thick, dense fog that clogs shut atmosphere filters and is fatally toxic to almost every species that encounters it. Should the victim survive the toxicity, the gas settles into alveoli of the lungs and asphyxiates the victim.

>>27793062
no, they're awesome
to be honest I just like the deep ocean so anything that references that is alright in my book

official thread music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiTzJQE67FA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN5ExwsXUiQ

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>>27793082
My Battle-Brother from the deep!

Do they use bioweapons against their enemies?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG17TsgV_qI

>>27792981

The last time I heard something supposedly voiced by OP was "Iron Krakens", however the debate has not yet reached consensus with Anon.

Because Anon will rarely agree.

The other things are pretty much set in stone.

>>27792982
>>27792991

Ahab started to force the Krakens into the Space Shark's territory because he held a grudge against Typhon of the Red Wake, but his obsession with defeating his rival blinded his vision and he made several tactical mistakes that cost the Krakens many good lives.

Eventually, the Krakens abandoned Ahab as he wanted to lead a charge against a fortified Carcharodon position and he was executed by the Sharks.

Now, the chapters' relationship is still uneasy, as the Carcharodons are wary of the Krakens and the Krakens fear for a punitive strike from the Carcharodons, but efforts have begun to calm the distrust and the two chapters have had quite a few missions where they averted a planetary crisis by literally tearing invading ships apart in orbit with nothing but their tenacity and ferocity.

>>27792979
...eh, I like what you're doing here, but I think there should be only one Lighthouse. Giving every ship archaeotech super-scanners seems a bit much,

>>27793094
>Posting Mastodon

You and I, we are brothers now. Let this bond be forged in BLOOD AND THUNDER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsdIO8RHMTc

>>27793112

>using Bane Wolf-inspired acid spitters instead of flamers.

Genius.

Since we're doing the horrors-of-the-deep / vikings theme, we could throw in some Norse mythology references or have them be guardians of archaeotech that's been long since forgotten. For example, Huginn and Muninn - two ancient ships that have the best sensors around, capable of detecting anything happening in the area near them.

Not really good in contributing so I'm lurking like a proper 'Kraken should.

This shit is way too fucking awesome to not do, So I will be saving this shit.

The Krakens shall be made a chapter-sized force. I swear it on my beard.

>>27793128

Oh, my pardon, I thought we were still going with the idea of having a majority of asteroids in the nebula be actually small monastery fortresses with archeo-tech lighthouses.

Having all their ships like this is a bit... much. i believe it should be primarily a defensive mechanism fired up when somebody tries to invade the Deep.

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>>27792991
But sharks eat squid.

>>27793161
Have them be like this insanely obscure chapter too, like there aren't many that know they exist, only hear rumors of a Chapter Fleet lurking in the depths of the Deep, emerging to ferociously protect the sector from any enemies, then vanishing back into the nebula.

Below the thunders of the upper deep;
Far far beneath in the abysmal sea,
His ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep
The Kraken sleepeth: faintest sunlights flee
About his shadowy sides; above him swell
Huge sponges of millennial growth and height;
And far away into the sickly light,
From many a wondrous grot and secret cell
Unnumber'd and enormous polypi
Winnow with giant arms the slumbering green.
There hath he lain for ages, and will lie
Battening upon huge seaworms in his sleep,
Until the latter fire shall heat the deep;
Then once by man and angels to be seen,
In roaring he shall rise and on the surface die

>>27793161
Huginn is an enormous stellar array. Unknowably ancient and of human make, it lies in the center of the nebula where even there it's powerful sensors can detect the movement of every asteroid, currents of the gasses, the makeup and cargo of vessels, even local disturbances in the Warp. It alone is the greatest of the Star Kraken's defenses as no enemy can hide it's sight.

Muninn is the brother archeotech to Huginn, a massive repository of all the information collected by Huginn. Within its memory banks lies a record of everything that has ever entered Huginn's range. All the secrets and hidden things seen by Huginn are kept by Muninn.

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>>27793301

So good.

All this talk about lighthouses in the Warp and no one mentions the Astronomican? Maybe these guys are guarding a smaller archaeotech astronomican relay that passes the light of the Emperor on to a remote edge of the galaxy? And they have to sacrifice psykers to keep the device operational?

>>27793301
I love it, well done anon

>>27793198
The monastery fortresses' lighthouses are massive array's of anti-ship weaponry. Let's say there are two archeotech Lighthouses, one on the flagship and the other on the main fortress.

>>27793301
That's excellent.

What if the beacon on the Lighthouse is part of Huginn? To active it in combat capacity it needs to remotely draw on the full power of the Huginn array, rendering it temporarily offline.

Every time they use their most powerful space borne weapon, they leave their home vulnerable.

>>27793301
Sleipnir - a jetbike? Or an ancient fast ship that uses archeotech and xenotech to move at breakneck speeds?

>>27793342
But we mentioned the Astronomican, the Librarians use it to navigate their dead-dreams and gain ridiculous amounts of knowledge.

>>27793380

The whole "accessing the Emperor's light through dreams" shit is the Emperor's Nightmare's shtick.

>>27793399
the emperors nightmare shtick is to combat chaos through dreams.

the star krakens is to be given visions of past and future through the emperors light

they could possibly be brother chapters

>>27793372
The Lighthouses focus Huginn's power, blinding it to everything except what it's focused on. At the same time, it increases the clarity of Huginn's sensors. Using the Lighthouse means that Muninn could spit out a complete, realtime schematic of the afflicted ship down and give details down to which crew members are psykers and where the grav-plating has failed. The offensive power of the Lighthouse is a side effect.

"Two ravens flew from Odin's shoulders; Huginn to the hanged and Muninn to the corpses."

>>27793448
SOLD!

>>27792090
>Their philosophy is probably inspired by similar aspects of life/philosophy like the Drowned Priests:

They could have a similar rite of passage as well: instead of drowning in sea water, members of the chapter are "drowned" in the void, ejected from an airlock and made to withstand the vacuum unprotected.

>>27793515

Very much this, but that would require the rite of passage happening "after" the whole resources to turn a human into a Space Marine have been spent.

Maybe have a tank of saltwater ready in the flagship and initiants taken from their slaves/serfs and recruiting worlds are drowned in that tank to see how strong their physical basis is to actually become a Star Kraken.

>>27793570

they recruit/press-gang from voidborn and ship crews that they rescue, so it's pretty likely that all their aspirants have had close encounters with vacuum already.

>>27792628
They generally recruit from the young, but they can take them from older ages, it just increases the chances of rejection. Of course, if you try to take a 30 year old or something they'll probably just die.

>>27793436
So what they are Silver Skulls?

>>27793570
A normal human can survive vacuum for 45-90 seconds. The ritual shouldn't be about withstanding anything, but rather about release of what you hold important - you have to exhale when exposed to vacuum or your lungs will explode - and for signs and portents that might arise as your body begins to shut down.

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>>27793448
>>27793372
>>27793301
Shit yes

Someone do a mockup of their armor

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>>27793962
my take on it, feel free to completly ignore.
It's meant to be dark grey metallic armour with a slight greenish tinge to it but obviously the painter is kind of limited

>>27793601
>>27793661

The whole idea of the Drowning rite of passage is to see whose physis and soul are strong enough to return from the dead.

Transporting this to the 40k-Verse wit the vacuum would mean to pretty much to let a possible aspirant be thrown out the airlock until he passes out, then pull him back in and see if he's capable to return to conscious on his own.

Seeing how it would be really fucking expensive in terms of time, effort and resources to let an initiate who's been implanted with all additional organs and underwent the whole transformation from human to Astartes be killed by this rite of passage before even seeing proper combat, I believe the rite should be applied when recruiting new initiates, not after completing them.

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I couldn't help myself. This chapter sounds fucking awesome.

>>27794135
awsome

>>27794135
Fucking awesome.

Somebody archive this, just in case.

>>27794135
Fucking NEAT.

If those tentacles were coming outta the backpack or something it'd be even better, cause it'd look less Chaos Marine-y then.

>>27794046
I like the vibe, but yeah, the painter is limited

So, lots of Mk5 armor then.

I 100% want to make an assault unit of allied guys from this chapter to go alongside my Brazen Claws now... god dammit /tg/ why are you always making me buy MORE space marines

Cloaks for our guys - do we want them torn? Made from the hide of some creature? Maybe something like the Salamanders have and carry around scales from a mighty beast?

And do our guys use nets?

>>27794135
dayum

>>27794046

Neat-o, but where's the purple?

>>27794135

Oh, pardon me, I think I just wet the floor with my amniotic fluid while giving birth to your firstborn son because THIS IS AWESOME!

>>27794367

We're going for a Viking theme, so mayhaps thick and heavy cloaks from native beasts that lurk on the habitable planets on the borders of the Deep?

>>27794385
I wasn't aware it had to have purple on it, I was just going for my interpretation on colours

>>27794430

Oh, no worries! It sort of 'drowned' in the whole excitement, and >>27780756 has them as "Sons of Dagon" which is a shitty name, but I guess all of the present Elegan/tg/entlemen agree that that colour scheme would be quite spiffing!

/tg/ you gotta archive this shit, I'm going to bed now and this thread MUST NOT DIE

>>27794401
Slick black / dark grey giant Space Eel skin cloaks?

Or you could use the hydra cloaks from the DElves corsairs?

>>27794516
why not both?

>>27794064
I have a strange feeling that you are a girl.

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>>27794135
Holy Lord above that's amazing.

>>27792597
>In Darkness Dwells the People Which Knows Its Annals Not
Is this from Lovecraft? It sounds very familiar.

So they are confirmed for Star Kraken as a name, what is the first company called? What is their Battle Barge called?
Trident is a very oceany and the deep related thing, does spontaneous corals or something grow in their ships because that would be aswesome, a form of flora found only in their origin space, a spaceborne fungal plants that are similar to coral, that glow and are found on space ships.

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>>27794545
Why not indeeeeeeeeed anon >mfw

Do we have an idea for who the Chapter Master is at the current moment in time?

Or the leader of the Brotherhood or whatever.

Is he a chaplain with mechandrites? Squid version of Chapter Master RIP AND TEAR of the space sharks?

>>27794552
Lemme check

>Fondles chest
>looks into pants

Nnnnope, no ladyparts. No ladyparts whatsoever.

Why? Because I'm trying to be resourceful?

>>27794516
Hmmm, if we want to stick even more to the "Deep Sea creature" -theme, then we ought to do that.

But I was actually trying to push the whole theme a little more to actual Vikings, so I was thinking fur or heavy woolen cloaks which the chapter received from the locals.

>>27794515
Don't we have an archive?

But if need be, I'll save the page with all the images embiggened

>>27794631
As of now, it's kind of a mix of both

But I like the heavy fur cloak idea, ESPECIALLY for Librarians and Chaplains.

>>27794631
>Why? Because I'm trying to be resourceful?

No because of this new juden invention
http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php#Analyze

>>27794615
Sleipnir. The oldest battle barge, uses archeotech and is rumored to contain some forbidden xeno technology.
Chapter Master's relic is an ancient power spear, Gungnir, which can link with Sleipnir and is used to activate all its many systems, known only to the Chapter Master and his closest retinue.
The Sleipnir can also link with Huginn and Muninn and receive all its data, which can then be used for effortless navigation.

>>27794712
some viking is cool but we shouldn't go overboard

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>>27794661
>>>Verdict: Weak MALE

>Weak emphasis could indicate European.
TOP KEK

> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/27776983/
And archived for future reference.

>>27794615
Their first company is their first company, I don't see a need to define them in any other way than "the most experienced of the bunch with the cool armour". If a special name is needed, just call them the "Elites", because I think based on how much these guys have to rely on one-another maintaining the ship and in combat, they might have a close bond that sort of excludes non-firstcompanieros.

I believe having the ships crow with Space Corals would not make the Machine Spirit of said ships happy, because that fungus might actually start to affect the outer hull. But actually breeding said space corals in designated tanks within the larger ships with the slaves looking after them might be a neat idea, because they could be harvested as means of artificing on armour and weaponry as heraldry.

>>27794624

I believe the appointed Commodore of the Fleet is a primus inter paris of the Ten-flag council.

He shouldn't be all that different in wargear from the rest of the councilmen except for having a bitchin' helmet with awesome pauldrons.

And yeah, mechandrites. he should have all eight mechandrites as somebody implied further up (veterans get more extra limbs the more they progress ranks).

Right now I believe he should be a "regular" marine, captain of the flagship and he should be less creepy but more calculating than Typhon.

>>27794135
Jesus H Christ. Why the hell don't more threads get drawfriends like this. Well done, bro!

if we are not sold on a name yet can I suggest
Void Krakens?

>>27794873
Already the name of a 40K space monster

Star Krakens for now

>>27794661

Hmm, I did grow up with two sisters, maybe that's had an influence.

But the informal genre states me as dick carrier, so why exactly take the formal genre? Formal is just that I use more effeminate words when I'm trying to be sophisticated, but sophistication and manliness don't mix unless you challenge somebody to a duel to the death - So I guess it's kind of unreliable?

>>27794873
Benthic Guardians?

Below-Death?

Callers of ______? (Shadow, Black, Krakens, etc)

Thunder Voices?

>>27794831
So 8 mechandrites + swanky shoulderpads and helmet.

What do we think of basing the model off the Chaos Master of the Forge?

>>27794897
Star Krackens is cool. aboslutly no problem with it.
I don't see anything wrong with naming themselves after void krackens though, they're big, tough and terrifying it's everything a space marine aspires to be

>>27794897
cant the chapter be named after those deep space horrors?

>>27794919
Guardians Vitae? >>27794927
(Lifeguards, huehuehuehue)

>>27794927
8 mechandendrites
Basing model off chaos master of forge.

>khorne pls go.

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>>27794956

>>27793825
The Freyrsvero

An ancient Dominator-class cruiser, the Freyrsvero was found adrift in the nebula, nonfunctional and with no crew, living or dead, onboard. Years were spent repairing the ship to add to the Kraken's fleet. However, the machine spirits that inhabited the vessel had gone mad and the ship attempted to attack any vessel or facility within range regardless of commands given. The ship was mothballed and the techmarines and bonded techpriests of the Star Krakens spent three centuries attempting to appease the spirits without avail. The ship sat unpowered and unmanned until the renegade fleet of Admiral Zyou Gunthrop, declared Excommunicate Traitoris for her iconoclasm, approached the nebula intent on capturing Huginn and Muninn. Outnumbered three to one in ships, the Krakens crewed and rearmed the Freyrsvero and set it in the path of the oncoming fleet. Backed by the Star Kraken fleet and their death song on their lips, the Freyrsvero roared to life. With the Lighthouse beacon disabling approaching enemy vessels, the Freyrsvero wreaked havoc upon the escort vessels of the Iconoclast fleet before plunging at Gunthrop's flagship, Judgment's Contempt. The flagship's guns shattered the Freyrsvero's void shields and it's lances burned gouges deep within it's armor. As the rest of the Kraken's fleet watched helplessly, entangled in combat with the enemy forces, as the Freyrsvero was slowly blown apart; it's weapon decks ripped open by macrocannon fire as its crew burned alive in the wash of plasma flames. Deep within the dying systems the machine spirits let loose one last scream of hatred and fury and plunged the Freyrsvero into the Judgment's Contempt. Her armored prow split open the armor of the Judgment's Contempt like an axe upon bare flesh. As she shuddered to a stop the remaining Nova Cannon shells in her magazines were detonated, vaporizing a full quarter of the Judgment's Contempt's mass and knocking it out of the fight.

>>27794939
The Elder Gods? I don't think the Imperial Cult would like that.

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>>27795159

Exquisite.

>>27794609
It's inscribed on the library of the University of Michigan.

>>27795159
>Freyrsvero
I wish I knew what this was a reference to. But it's still fucking cool.

Guys we still need crunchy bits

>>27795206
Freyrsvero is doggerel Norse combining the Freyr and the word for sword. In Norse mythology Freyr had a magical sword that would fight on its own if wise be he who would wield it.

>>27795322
Ohhh I get it now

That's fucking AWESOME

>>27791990
Big daddy dreads? fuck yea!

>>27795265
Whatcha mean?

>>27795357
References to video games and pop culture rarely make a good chapter. Do what this guy's doing >>27795159 and at least try to draw from older sources, and try to twist them a little bit to make them fresher.

>>27794927

Probably that it's very convenient to have a nice base model that is now easily converted into looking like a space viking fleet commander?

>>27795159
Why are all other Fa/tg/uys so much better at coming up with cool lore in short minutes than I am?

>>27795265
Provide them, fellow scribe! hesitate not, or else the best bits may be gone by tomorrow.

>>27794649
The cloaks come from a planet on the outer edge of the Deep. A cold, wet, and dismal world barely habitable that slowly orbits a dim, dying star, those who would hold office among the Star Kraken journey there to hunt the Valravn. Fierce beasts that are part bird and part canine, they hunt by night and possess a vicious and almost human level of intellect. Worse still, should an Astartes be bested by one the Valravn will eat his flesh and take his form.

>>27795399
It's not that hard. The Freyrsvero was me browsing wikipedia for Norse bits, remembering that Freyr had a magic sword, remembering that machine spirits can sometimes operate the machines themselves, then checking Lexicanum for info on Imperial Navy vessels, and going from there.

>>27795516
It actually brought to mind the live-ships of Robin Hobb's series based on the eponymous ships.

There's one called Pariah or something starting with a P, that's batshit insane and stuff.

Good shit man

Anyone else think that they'd be good as Death Guard successors? I don't know why works for me, but it just kind of... does.

>>27795707
We've decided to go with Raven Guard. Plus, Loyalist descendants of traitor legions is a bit played out.

>>27795516

It's not necessarily coming up with ideas, it's more fleshing said ideas out to a point where they become appropriate for such a project in such time's due that is infuriatingly difficult for me.

But I'm working on a piece of writefaggotry as of now.

>>27795726
Here is what I do. I try to fit it in a single post. I should be able to get my point across in 2000 characters since I view myself as writing something that would get a small blurb or sidebox in a codex. If I, or someone else, wants to later flesh it out so be it, but for the time being I'd rather toss out an idea, see the response, and modify or expand based on the reaction.

>>27792451
we fall upon our enemies as the endless tide strikes the shores.

>>27794744
Well I am fucking high as shit, so I am mellowed tot eh core.

Librarian?

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>>27795815
Forgot pic

>>27795790

Sounds like a plan. I'll apply that next time I'm writing something - I already put so much effort into what I'm writing now it'd feel like a waste to throw stuff out just so I don't have to work the lose ends together.

captcha: ceekdat chapter

>Chapter Name
Star Krakens
>Founding
33rd Millennium
>Progenitor
Raven Guard
>Chapter Purpose
Counter to Tyranids
>Stat Bonuses
+5 Weapons Skill, +5 Leadership
>Gene Seed Purity
Impure.
>Chapter Demeanor
"Stalk from the Deep, then strike without mercy."
>Gene-seed Deficiency
Oversensitive occulobe (perhaps a result of being based out of a dark nebula), extremely pale skin, third heart (not unlike the ancient squids of Terra)
>Chapter Flaw
Incredibly reclusive.
>Figure of Legend
??? Still need one. Any ballin' Viking/Kraken related stuff will do.
>Deed of Legend
Fury of the Freyrsvero (see >>27795159)
>Chapter Home World
Mobius, an asteroid cluster located far within the Deep.
>Home World Predominant Terrain
Asteroids.
>Relationship with Homeworld
Distant
>Organization
Standard
>Combat Doctrine
Ruthless surprise attacks, excel in space combat and close combat/boarding tactics.
>Solo Mode Ability
pending
>Squad Mode Attack Pattern
pending
>Squad Mode Defensive Stance
pending
>Specialty Restriction
All Dreadnoughts are Ironclads.
>Special Equipment
Access to a large number of pre-Heresy Breacher Siege Squad equipment
>Chapter Belief
The Dead Among Us Shall Not Die
>Chapter Status
Over strength, ~1500
>Chapter Friends
Raven Guard, maybe Space Sharks
>Chapter Enemies
Tyranids
>Battle Cry
IN DARKNESS DWELLS

I'm not very good at this

>>27795448
So the Valravn are changelings.

Also who is there renegade archenemy. If you guys want I can produce a background.

>>27795884
>>Founding
>33rd Millennium
>>Chapter Purpose
>Counter to Tyranids

>>27795905
OK fine change it to 38th

Make them like one of the first Chapters to encounter them

>>27795884
For chapter belief, how about The Fallen Shall Live Eternal? (dreadnoughts, yo)

the dead shall not die, seems kinda strange.

>>27795905
I know right, I would expect more traitor marines because they sound exactly like the response to random chaos raids. They patrol in low profile then strike out of nowhere. Plus what is there segmentum

>>27795923
Yeah, that's what I had in mind but I couldn't figure out how to phrase it

>>27795900

There's some GW fluff about a company of Space Wolves that encounter a planet of changelings on the far edges of the galaxy. The changelings disguised themselves as beautiful women to lure the Wolves in and attacked them during a feast. So these Valravn could be related or even be those things.

So we're going with Viking stuff, but not towards the Space Wolves naming patterns right?

>Mǫkǫyll the Destroyer

A veteran of hundreds of campaigns, Mǫkǫyll earned his mecadendrites centuries ago. He currently sits as the First Company's representative on the Ten-flag Council, with a unanimous vote in his favour during the last election.

Mǫkǫyll earned his moniker after his retrieval of the great relic hammer which he wields from the burning remains of an Imperial temple complex on a planet being invaded by the foces of Chaos.

Rumors say that he took the hammer from the hands of a priest of the ecclesiarchy, who had intended to ship it off-world during the invasion. There are no witnesses to this claim however, and few would dare to lay such a claim at the feet of the cyclopean elder marine.

He subsequently caved in the chest of the Chaos lord in charge of the invasion with the hammer, leaving him to drown in his own blood beneath the shattered remains of his demon forged terminator armour, as per chapter custom.


He takes to battle in heavily customised terminator armour, wielding the Hammer which now bears his name as an icon as well as a weapon.

(more? or will I go back to being anon)

>>27795946
Obscurus. I guess it makes more sense to have them fight Chaos first, then put their archeotech to use against the Nids since the Lighthouse and Huginn would work well against them

>>27795946

i believe for us to play a little with a potential rivalry with the Carcharodons, they should be somewhere around the Maelstrom.

Plus I'm working on a piece of writefaggotry which involves Figure of Legend Ahab going on an orbital bitchfight with Typhon, so pls say yes.

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>>27795972
Holy fucking shit I suck at formatting and shit tonight.

>>27795992
Tyranids are a Ultima Segmentum threat almost 100%. Having the chapter fight Nids is cool, but do try to remember the canon.

>>27795972
I like this drowning motif.

Continue, friend.

>>27796010
Not Ahab. He should be infamous.

Unless Figures/Deeds of Legend can be less-than-great for the Chapter.

>>27776983
Calling them Star or Space Krakens is the same as calling them Void Krakens. In fact, it's not as good.

>>27795919
Then M40, and even that is a stretch. I don't understand with all the people going with ancient foundings. Is this some sort of 40k equivalent to >muh heritage?

>>27796036
Shit, meant to quote >>27795998

>>27796055
I mean I'm not good at it, I'm very open to changing stuff

And you all should feel free to add to/change the crunch into something that makes more sense than what I originally posted

>>27796055
Older = cooler ancient tech = better = more powergamers try to use age as justification for being OP as fuck.

Add on a healthy dollop of the traditional "oldbeards are superior because of age, and age alone is sufficient", and you've got yourself a medley of Second and Third founding homebrews, and few new upstarts.

>>27796109
Don't want them OP though, just ruthless ballers who lurk in the dark

>>27796109
I know, but literally ninety percent of homebrew chapters are 2nd and 3rd founding. Oh, and either Dark or Cursed. Fucking retards.

>>27796157
Yeah, that's exactly my point. That's why i think that this chapter being 26th founding, or even later as the vanguards of a 27th founding or some such would be really nice, and a bit of a breath of fresh... water?

Part of the chapter's theme is this deep, ancient, cold, inevitability, and part could also be this new kids on the block syndrome, where they are still adjusting to their heritage and inheritances, and the strange place they call home.

Take both the concepts of "knowledge of the deep dark places" and blend it with "the ocean is big, and i am small", and I bet you'd get some REALLY interesting social, political, cultural, and mental dynamics in the chapter.

>>27796187
I like this idea. I like it a lot.

But I have no idea how I could help to flesh it out and make it a big part of Chapter lore.

>>27795846
The most important figure in the history of the Star Krakens is also its most reviled. Long ago, when the Star Krakens still had a home, the planet Giraud, a marine by the name of Ach-ab was chosen to be the Chapter Master. A devoted, talented marine, his dedication to the Emperor hid a deeply obsessive nature. As the years went on he focused his attention less on the enemies of the Imperium and more upon those who he believed had besmirched the name of the Star Krakens. Eldar corsairs, Ork freebootas, xenos mercenaries, any who had crossed the path of the Star Krakens and were not completely destroyed. Soon the list expanded to include friendly forces ranging from Guard regiments who struck the decisive blow of victory, Naval fleets whose bombardments ended wars from on high, to other Astartes chapters whose mere presence alongside in battle he saw as an insult to the honor of the Star Krakens. Finally, to the cheers of those ignorant to his true nature, he announced a grand crusade to rid the sector of the enemies of Mankind. The first few years were successful, Ork strongholds shattered, the xenos mercenary bands and their Rogue Trader patrons rooted out, and uprisings and rebellions smashed by the full weight of the chapter. However, several began to doubt Ach-ab's methods as the chapter's losses were slowly outpacing their replenishment. Soon Imperial forces began to feel his wrath as assistance requests were summarily denied, naval operations were disrupted, and even outright fighting between the Star Krakens and other forces erupted for the flimsiest of pretenses. Stretched thin and suffering from logistical problems, the Star Krakens were left weakened and vulnerable. Soon, it's enemies would come.

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>find this thread like 6 hours ago
>it's turned into something wonderful

I love you jubilan/tg/ents.

The Ten-Flag council

The Star Kraken’s fleet divides into ten battle barges, among which the largest is the flagship in the fleet and harbours the primary hubs for the several thousand slaves in the chapter’s employ. Each ship has a commandeering captain, and these captains form the ten-flag council: A meeting representing each of the ships as equal parts of the fleet, with the ten flags of each ship being carried by its respective captain and his first mate, who otherwise would take control of the ship if the captain was absent. In the ten-flag council, the fleet’s commodore is appointed. He is tasked of taking care of the flagship and its light systems which help navigate within the Deep for the entire fleet, as well as maintaining and caring for the chapter’s serfs in their hubs. He must also represent the chapter to any outsider who wishes to parlay. When a new commodore is appointed, the old one steps down and passes his ornate armour over to his successor, as well as the two will exchange control over their respective ships.

>>27795884
Don't forget about the thralls too, dunno if that would account for Chapter strength

>>27796226
Basic elements: The chapter is YOUNG. Young enough to have fighting Tyranids be a major part of their essence and history. They won't have the depth of experience that other chapters have, but they're more likely to be aggressive to prove their worth, too. The "Beast Hunters" type theme is very relevant here. Dreadnoughts likewise are hard to explain in such a young chapter.

My suggestion is to have their Tyranid Vets, who have likely been ripped almost to shreads by the Nids, be their Dreads. They're not ancient or anything, and they know no more lore than anyone else in the chapter, but they're also perhaps more apt to stay awake and fight, since they still havent proven their worth fully?

Particularly by imperial standards, they haven't been tried and tested like others have.

They live in a strange nebula, i think is what had been agreed on, and they have some examples of very ancient technology, Huginn and Muninn. The story of how they came by these things, rather than the Mechanicus swooping in and grabbing them from the new fledged chapter, might itself be an interesting tale.

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quick idea of what their Chapter Master could look like

>>27796187
Well, make them new, but not TOO new, since those mutations and gene-seed impurities would have had to take root and become a part of the Chapter's strategy and general outlook

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>this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_xjBAd5G84

>>27796313
New gene-seed in the 40th millennium is FAR more likely to have mutations than older, more pure, gene-seed, actually.

>>27795884
>+5 Leadership
You mean willpower, right?

>>27796299
Can we have a Captain Ahab reference for one of the Nid Vets?

>>27796236

You beat me to it. This is pretty much in the spirit of what I had in mind.

>>27796381
Name one of them Ishmael.

>>27796381
Sure. He charged the wrong goddamn Swarmlord, and his squad/company paid the price.

>>27795972
>So we're going with Viking stuff, but not towards the Space Wolves naming patterns right?

More Old Norse and Islandic, aye.

>>27776983

Just glue regular marines full of arms and leave the legs out

>>27796275
>ten battle barges
WHO'S THIS FLUFF BUTCHER?
Ultramarines get only three of there and the rest are strike cruisers and escorts, a younger chapter is lucky to have even one.

>>27796438
Yeah, ten support frigates, or whatever that small frigate the SMs use maybe. And like two Strike Cruisers, and a SINGLE battle barge.

I'm not really following how Huginn and Muninn are being worked in here

Does it help them navigate the Deep? Is that why they're so damn good at it?