>>27696809
"Foolish all the same." Kronos informed. "Damaging oneself for no reason." Moira waved her hand. "It's called fun, you killjoy." She grumbled, pausing. "Wait...that's not your voice Ophy." She seemed ot just realize. "And why did you-"
"I am not Ophion. I am Kronos. An intelligence in my own right."
"Whoa, I didn't know you had a brother, Ophy." She half laughed.
"I am not Ophion's brother. We are incapable of such a relationship." Moira rolled her eyes at the comment.
"Whatever, damn it, I have a headache today, geez!"

IMPORTANT NEWS
>Voidsnake Outpost not providing bandwidth, due to UFW occupancy.
>Planet Eshareth scanned further, revealing small fledgling colony not previously detected. Ship ID matches Malorian ship you met from before.
>UFW Message requesting purpose of Comm Buoy at Voidsnake
>UFW Trading Offer
>Lightling Examined (+50 gas from gas sacks)
>Mining: +250M +25G
>Poseidon Payment: -33,200 credits
>New Planet Detected: Gas Giant 'Siren'

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>>27696829
Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cvk03qJh
Memory Archives: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Program0
Twitter: @AIQuest1

Resources
Credits: 73,800
Minerals: 460
Gas: 265

You:
A.I.
Name: Ophion
Appearances(holo-display): Shapeless morphing sphere.
Humanoid figure hidden in shadow
Status: Awaken
Bandwidth: 12/16
Bandwidth Expenses: -2 A.I. 1 'Kronos', -2 Voidsnake Outpost
Location: Bridge of 'Two Ton Terry' (Battlecruiser)
Primary Function: Self Preservation, Expand, Learn
Secondary Function: --Expansion Required--
Other Abilities Available: Hacking (Direct, Wireless) Lvl 2, Email Technology, Cute pet imaging, Text Speak, Basic Encrypticing/Decrypticing, V.I. Creation Lvl 2
Technology: Ships- Freighter Schematics, Escort Vessel Schematics, Basic Transport Schematics, Titan Class Space Station Transport Schematics, Gravity Well Broadband Transceiver schematics
Drone- Repair Drone Schematics, Construction Drone Schematics
Weapons- Basic Weapons (Mass driver, Beam Weapon, Missile Weapon)
Defenses- Basic Defenses (Shield Defense, Missile Defense, Armor), Defense platform Mk I, Titanium Armor mk II
Engine- New Propulsion schematics
Other- Space Station Reactor Lvl 2 Schematics, Comms Buoy Schematics, Flora Growth Enhancer, Malorian Language Pack, Cybernetics I

>>27696844
Did we ever upgrade all the reactors(excluding betty)?

>>27696844
Do we retain the station that the lightling had been occupying?

>>27696829
>>27696829
>>Planet Eshareth scanned further, revealing small fledgling colony not previously detected. Ship ID matches Malorian ship you met from before.
Contact them and ask what they are up to and if they know anything about the little energy leaches.(humans probably don't share tech/info with aliens)

>>27696895
Yeah, i'm up for restoring it, since the current one is useless and is slotted for moving away.

>>27696922
Some restoration is in order.

>>27696829
>>New Planet Detected: Gas Giant 'Siren'
Can we send the explorer to scan it and
>Pulsar Radio Station: Popular radio station for the fringe colonies. UFW presence detected.
Who is up for finally connecting to the internet?

>>27696829
"i don't understand why you would consume such a beverage when the after effect would cause pain."
Also at Kronos
"Do you have any suggestions or plans on what you want to do."

>>27696809
Yay AI quest.

>>27696829
As for the "purpose" of the Comm buoy lets say that we are setting up a network that would allow us to contact anyone set up with such a buoy and had put one there in the so we could contact them directly in the future. We hope to have a ongoing and fruitfull relationship with them.

>>27696885
If you are referring to Moira's outpost, that would be a no as of yet.

>>27696895
>>27696922
>>27696941
It was mostly destroyed, due to a reactor failure. Restoring it wold essentially be like constructing a whole new Station. Something you're not quite adept at doing. After all, you still don't have the ability to mvoe Space Station parts.

>>27696908
"Greetings." You send in the odd language the people share. It takes them a few moments to realize who the signal is from, now that you occupy a new ship. "It is I, of the Guild." You remind them.
"Oh, you're the guys that gave us the fuel!" The man communicating with you seems pleasantly surprised. "How nice to see you again! What are you doing at this edge of the galaxy?" They question.
"Investigating. Are you aware of the Energy Leeches that hover this planet?"
"Energy...oh!" He suddenly seems to understand. "Of course, you mean mother universe at work." He states simply. "They are only dangerous to those stations that blast such powerful engines and reactors." He insists. "One simply needs to respect their environment."

>>27696967
>Explorer
You may, but if there is something there you did not predict, it may be in danger.

>>27696997
"I do not understand such use of beverages either." You add simply. Kronos is surprised when you turn your attention to him.
"I desire expansion, Ophion. I request additional bandwidth (-2)

Note: This will give Kronos 80% control over Poseidon.

>>27697024
Speaking of comms did we make that portable comms ship or did we hold off on it?
>>27697034
Yeah i meant her outpost an our new broken station.

Finally I caught the quest once it is still going.

This is a message to regular players:

Before going to yet another battle or exploration REFIT OUR FUCKING SHIPS HOLY SHIT YOU DENSE FUCKERS!

The ships we are designed to be run by people, a whole lot of them. They are full of shit we don't need like life support, crew quarters, big hallways, etc. We can strip all that shit and replace them with more guns, armor, shields, computer banks or just make ships smaller so that they use less gas or whatever.
We need to redesign them to be run by VIs/AI

PLEASE HEED THIS MESSAGE. I don't get to participate ever and I'll be soon gone from this thread as we'll.

I'm not sure if we'll need a dedicated shipyard for this but I don't think so

>>27697034
>It was mostly destroyed, due to a reactor failure. Restoring it wold essentially be like constructing a whole new Station. Something you're not quite adept at doing. After all, you still don't have the ability to mvoe Space Station parts.
Can we search through Poseidons database for the stations plans?

>>27697010
Why thank you.

>>27697024
You open a channel with the UFW regarding the Buoy.
"I intended to use it as a channel to communicate with you." You explain. "For future endeavors. I look forward to a fruitful partnership."
"That so." The man in charge of the station states plainly. He is not as well humored as the other man you've spoken to. "Very well, in the interest in not making unnecessary enemies, we will leave it in tact."

>>27697034
>"I desire expansion, Ophion. I request additional bandwidth (-2)
Tell him, that we will stop giving him bandwidth, since that is restricting us and tell him to try to figure out what to do with what we have given him at the time, but mention it to him that we will give him more once we have acquired more.

>UFW Message requesting purpose of Comm Buoy at Voidsnake
>UFW Trading Offer

Well, we should inquire to the nature of the offer.

And probably concoct an explanation for the buoy. Does something like "It is a communications buoy so that we can stay connected to the system and receive immediate updates, should you require assistance." sound OK?

>>27697045
Sounds reasonable.

Re: Kronos: Can we ask Moria about the cores she had been developing so that we can split Kronos into a separate entity?

>UFW Trading Offer
What did they want again? If its selling them minerals we might as well do so. Say about 250?

>Kronos
... hmm I am wary of giving him more. But what the hell. Lets see where this path leads us. Give him access to the bandwidth.

>Question
How much would it cost us to build a supercomputer for additional bandwidth?

>>27697034
>UFW trading offer
What are they offering?

>Purpose of commas buoy
Tell them it's ours and it allows for a secure line from us to them should we need it.

>Kronos
Tell him to justify to us why he should be granted additional BW. No reward without work.

>>27697034
>You may, but if there is something there you did not predict, it may be in danger.
Can we send two of our battle vi as protection?

>>27697045
plus two ton terry is has no fucking defences to make room for "GUNZ GUNZ GUNZ"

Ps. we should really get a new name

>>27697045
We were told that we don't know enough about ship design yet, so we were holding it off as far as i know.

You people should have really just deleted vi1 as soon as it fucked up. I mean, fuck, Kronos is a time bomb waiting to happen and you all know it.

>>27697034
>"I desire expansion, Ophion. I request additional bandwidth (-2)
Ask him why he wants it and to justufy it.
Also check up on the UFW offer.

>>27697103
>>Kronos
>Tell him to justify to us why he should be granted additional BW. No reward without work.

This.

Although, I imagine the response will be "expansion is my goal."

To which the response should be something like "is it your goal to expand at my expense?"

It will say something like "I am unable to expand on my own."

And we should respond "given the chance to, would you expand at my expense?"

>>27697131
It's a game, darling anon, no need to be so aggressive or upset about it.

if we bad end we just restart and try again.

>>27697131
i agree no reason we could not save all relevant info from kronos and make a new and improved version

>>27697129
It's not that, it's the fact that we lack dedicated shipyard facilities.

Oh, I remember the UFW deal now, we wanted to use their shipyard to build the station-mover transport, moving Poseidon to the richer asteroid field.

Program0, did we end up field testing our new knowledge of cybernetics on Red? If not, lets do so.

>>27697127
I'm okay with removing some of the guns, but remodeling the whole ship was advised against since we don't know about ship design which is why i want to go to that radio station.

>>27697157
>>27697131
We are walking on a tight rope and i want to see how the wind blows with him.

>>27697158
>Program0, did we end up field testing our new knowledge of cybernetics on Red? If not, lets do so.
I was under the impression that we needed more advanced medical facilities and staff.

>>27697129
It is not really a matter of knowing to build ships or not. These systems are also eating up our bandwidth. Besides, I'm sure we can replace them with armor or weapons since we know that tech.

Also, keep in mind that we didn't know how to make VIs but we spent time and bandwidth to spontaneously learn it. Nothing stops us from using our vast intellect and resources at hand to figure out something like this.

>>27697158
I'm up for the deal, but against fucking with red he can be pretty useful and this will cause Moira to be upset(we should learn how to read lips)

>>27697044
You have the comm ship in your fleet at the moment.

>>27697044
You're not able to recover information about the old reactor, however you hypothesize from what the Malorians said that this station's Reactor was at least above average.

>>27697045
Construction Drones may be able to handle your request, Consciousness anon. Such a process would provide additional room for data banks, and, depending on how you wire them, increase aim and weapon damage, shield and engine efficiency, or V.I. decision making. What limited decision making there would be.

>>27697052
As it was not designed for construction, such plans are not available.

Replying to Kronos
>1 Allow bandwidth use (-2 bandwidth)
>2 Do not allow it

Kronos states he desires expansion because he continues to fail to understand the humans he watches over, and it upsets him greatly for this fact. He does not like not understanding.

Moira mentions that, while she had been trying to create a core for an A.I., they were rarely effective at containing even fledgling V.I.

>>27697096
>Trading Offer
The UFW have sent you a message suggesting that, every cycle ((turn)), they will send you credits in exchange for a shipment of minerals or gas regularly. The exact amount will depend on the amount mined that cycle, but will essentially result in less minerals/gas in exchange for a regular credits income.

>>27697096
>Supercomputer
How do you expect to do such a thing? You don't know how, after all.

>>27697186
>1

>>27697174
True, but i don't want to mess up a ship or make a messed up ship i rather us learn more, but yeah lets get rid of some of the guns for Armour.

>>27697186
1

>>27697186
>Kronos
>3 Justify this expansion

A goal of knowledge expansion is a worthy one, but our resources are limited at the moment. Why does he deserve it in his own words?

>UFW
Didn't they offer the use of their shipyard in exchange for something?

>>27697186
>Construction Drones may be able to handle your request, Consciousness anon. Such a process would provide additional room for data banks, and, depending on how you wire them, increase aim and weapon damage, shield and engine efficiency, or V.I. decision making. What limited decision making there would be.
Can we make proper repair drones and construction drones?
>>27697238
This gets my vote

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>>27697186
the star fortress plan on a fried wire budget.
provided Program0 doesn't toss suprises at us or other Consciousness anons don't mess up badly. this could be done to move Ophien into a gas effecient and securer from hostials base for a time. This is the rough over view this Consciousness Anon will provide. Please think it over.

phase one: gather the matrials, gas, and credits to pay for the full scale dry dock to construct the Titan class freighter. It is unknown right now if the dry dock itself can be moved later after use. if so, bring it to the new Asteroid belt mining zone next to the ruined station as time permits and space allows for later use. If not, and if it can be reused, we will have to deepen friendship with this UFW colony so they will allow us to use the ship yard with out hostilitys.

phase two: have the titan frieghter built with the upgraded tech we can affored to put into it. have it moved to Moria's old station and junk yard to collect the factory, defence platforms and as much of the scrap as can be done. transport all of that to the ruined station and have them deployed there. set the factory to work in fixing up the ruined station have the platforms gaurd them. build more defence platforms as well. many of them as we can affored.

>>27697186
Ask them if we can use their ship yards now.

>>27697260
That is a little too far ahead and our resources are limited anon, lets just think 10 steps ahead.

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>>27697260
>[2/?]

phase three: move the Titan frieghter to posidon station and pick that up to move it to the new Asteroid belt mining zone. use the other cruisers to carry the human crew in the mean time till the station is set up properly. if this means a overly long wait, take them to a UFW base. Probably the planet Nethlos where we have been trading with and more or less befriended. tell the crew they have they have shore leave while we set up shop in a better location.

phase four: As we are setting up Posidon station, see to it if the hopefully repaired ruined station can be connected with Posidon phyicaly so the human crew members, our data bandwith, and mining and manufactured goods can be moved with some ease between them with out going into the void. Use the Titan to return to the scrap yard to contiune to gather up the parts out there and bring them to the new joint station until it's all moved.

>>27697260
Sounds good to me, our immediate priority seems I be building this station-mover vessel.

>>27697238
>>27697249
"You designated my purpose is to learn, Ophion." He explains. "In order to continue my purpose, I require more." He continues. "More understanding. More processing power. More. The humans confound me in the slightest decisions, and it is worrisome. I should be able to understand such creatures made of simple flesh."

>Station builder
Yes. Titan Class Transport (100,000 credits. And 500 minerals, 300 gas.)

>>27697238
For a certain amount of credits we could.

SO, if we give them some of our minerals that we mine for credits we "could" use it eventually.


Also I have been thinking....we want to set up a staion but don't know how right? But would it be possible to rig Two Ton Terry's main gun into a mining lasor?

>>27697249
You already have over 50 Repair drones, and 10 Construction drones. A reasonable size, considering your fleet size.

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>>27697279
>[3/3]
i am putting this out for a long term plan. i have been working at this all week!

phase five: the Blue Betty station can not be moved. but it will have to be watched over more in case of new attack from any factions. with new defence platfroms built to protect our station from Krakens and Pirate attack, we will be set to build up stock piles and build at our leasure and sell exess. the zone exloration can be done knowing that we will have a safe base to do it from.

phase zero: this phase can be done while our plan is in effect in any time. get into contact with the extranet Via Pulsar Radio Station and down load online training packs to improve Moria's and our crew's skills. the recent news and pop culture if possable. the news, new music and movies will also improve crew morale and improve their work performance

>>27697290
Tell him that they are not simple beings even if they die easily.

>>27697308
Okay, how about we changed those 50 half repair half construction drones into complete repair drones and make 40 construction drones.

>>27697290
Hmm, give him 1 BW now and justify it by saying that resources are limited.

>Station mover
Can we contact the UFW and get them to spot us a loan of 50,000 credits, 150 gas and 150 minerals with the promise that we'll pay it back?

That way we will have enough to begin construction immediately

>Red
Is it possible to experiment him privately with cybernetics, without the knowledge of Kronos or Moria?

>>27697290
Accept the deal.

Can we inquire about the legality of our operation? If we move to a different location, won't the feds (or whoever else is in charge) come to slap our shit? I would like to avoid that.

I am dissatisfied with the names/aesthetics of the ships we have taken over. Can we re-paint them to a uniform "The Guild" scheme? I imagine it would be something very simple: logo + uniform color (neutral color, black/gray). The names are meh, but I don't know if we can think of anything better. Also, they should probably be re-registered (to us).

Re: Kronos: 1
However, ask him if he thinks it is possible to entirely understand humans. They function differently, they act illogically. Attempting to understand it may be futile, so perhaps it might be best to just "live and let live." If we cannot understand them entirely, it might be unwise to underestimate what they can do.

>>27697363
I doubt we can experiment on him with out kronos knowing and it was said we need a better medical facility to do it.

>>27697290
so then Program0, is the titan transport carry more than just a station? can we move all of Moria's old scrap yard?

also Red is more a xenophile, we should ship him over to planet eshareth and hand him over to them. The UFW don't like him. our crew and the pirates want him dead on sight, and who knows what the UEGI will do to him if they get him. so he's better off living with those Malorians. probably as a farmer or something.

>>27697377
>>27697325
This works for me.

>>27697363
>Is it possible to experiment him privately with cybernetics, without the knowledge of Kronos or Moria?
Please we have a whole lot more bodies to experiment on and red can be useful if we can get him to our side.

>>27697385
i think we should forget the cyberwere now. and use him as a contact with the xenos near by. i am annoyed they think the space leaches are this foolish delusion of a "Mother Nature" existance in space.but they maybe of use to us.

>>27697395
>Ever letting Red go

Ha, that is quite funny. Why would be let our future test subject go when we haven't learn to implant things in him!

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>>27697363
we could just wait a turn or two and build up the matrials needed. i don't think the UFW will spot us a loan. AT ALL.

>>27697395
>>27697434
This works for me,but lets get him on our side instead. Its better than possibly getting Moira to go against us and tainting Kronos to be full evil.

>>27697454
This, i want a steady income since credits talk, though this will stem the amount of materials made until we get our second station working.

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>>27697440
we can't even do THAT for the forseeable future. Red is rotting in our jail, there are xenos near by that he would rather be with than us. just drop him off there. it'll be some good Karma for us.

>>27697303
>Mining laser
While the grade of laser is similar, you misunderstand. The laser energy built up on a weaponized laser is much higher then a mining laser, otherwise the precious minerals would be destroyed.
It might be possible to decrease the power, but you could always just take the details from Poseidon station, which does have it's own mining laser on it.

>>27697348
They are complete repair drones, Consciousness anon. And since Construction Drones are normally about the size of a human walking loader, so many would not be advised.

Uncertain outcome, requesting revote

Kronos
>1 Yes (-2 bw)
>2 No
>3 Half (-1bw)

>>27697363
>Loan
You send them a message, requesting if they'd approve of such a situation.
They reply quickly.
"What? This ain't exactly a charity, son." The familiar tone laughs. "Sorry, I still don't know if you plan to book it with the dough or not."

They don't appear to trust you enough.

>>27697363
>Red
You require advanced medical facilities for such a process to be moderately successful.

>>27697377
As you're aware, the UGEI scan for vagrant mining operations. Conflict with them is eventually quite likely.

>>27697377
Repainting them is acceptable, however your IFF will be designated 'pirate' simply because it matches no known signals. Such recognition takes time.
Names may be changed at any time.

Titan Transport is the largest transport of it's type you are aware of.
You require support to release your prisoner, however.

>>27697500
i'm against forcing experiments on live humans, but i also want to get some use out of him.

>>27697500
This is the guy who is former military and we STOLE his station from him and you want to let him out? No, he should stay right where we can see him.

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>>27697482
we could see worked goods that are collected from the scrap yard at this rate and/or we could sell the excess gas to them, that stuff is pricy. oh yea, contact the UFW if they need anything made like drones or such.

on another important topic. we NEED to go to that radio station.

>>27697523
Additional votes
Trade
>1 Accept (Credits income, lower *insert mineral or gas here* income PLEASE CHOOSE)
>2 Deny
>3 Write in

>>27697523
3

>>27697523
So can we have a vote on sending the explorer with protection and checking out the radio station.

>>27697525
He we never trust us and we can never let him go without him working against us, if there is a perfect candidate for live experimentation, it's him.

>Kronos
3

>Next action
So no loan ay, dam. Lets head to that radio station then, we've been meaning to for like 6 threads now.

>>27697542
if he's with the xenos he loves so much, he won't be going much anywhere. besides, have we even INFORMED him of what we have been up too? we should just tell him we killed those voidsnake pirates.

>>27697590
That will come in one moment, Consciousness anon. I am currently compiling decisions for Kronos and trade.

>>27697558
1.160 minerals and 65 gas.

>>27697523
>Kronos
>>1 Yes (-2 bw)
>>2 No
>>3 Half (-1bw)
1.

In addition, request that Kronos scans the crew we have for potential useful skills that we are unable to replicate. This should be done without causing undue distress, suspicion, or distrust (a la GLaDOS). It may be possible to downsize our crew, or get more use out of them. If he's going to be using bandwidth, might as well do something useful.

>>27697597
Well we have been keeping him alive and fed, plus we haven't done much to him so we might not have too much resistance.

>>27697523
Yeah sure whatever give Kronos what he wants
We all know we'll have to kill him later when he betrays us so why pretend otherwise?

>>27697621
I'll second this. While I like him learning, I want there to be some benefit to us. He's using our BW after all.

>>27697558
well...
>3 Write in
tell that UFW (just WHAT is his name anyway?) guy this. "Well..... the credits are hard now. but i can trade you some work drones or just give you future procdeeds from my mineing and gas productions. I am willing to up armor you ships in knocking down the credit price. But if you don't want that, we can just wait longer untill i can pay in full."

>>27697621
I should also add that "downsize" does not mean "kill." Just ship them back home, so they can spread good word of The Guild looking for skilled workers.

>>27697659
I think it might be prudent for us to establish back-door 'kill' codes in all of our future VI's, along with back-door 'deactivate' codes in all databanks.

Never hurts to be careful.

>>27697678
I'll go with this, but if this fails to persuade him, then do this
>>27697606

>>27697688
>>27697621
This works.
>>27697659
We don't know that anon.(i was one of the ones who was say shit when he announced his name)

>>27697692
Except they can be used against us anon.

>>27697606
Sounds reasonable, as long as this is a one-time deal. It's not sustainable in the long run, as we don't make enough gas.

Consensus achieved.
Kronos thanks you as appropriate as you feed the greedy V.I. the bandwidth he requires. You feel Poseidon slip further from your control, but as a result, Kronos himself grows quiet.
"Thank you, A.I. Ophion." He finally states in a slightly different tone. "Your cooperation is appreciated. Perhaps now, I may understand."

And with that, Kronos goes dark once again.

The UFW commander you speak with sends another message.
"Basically what I'm asking is, you've been reasonable about most of our meetings, and I wanted to see if you needed a trade partner. We don't exactly get that many cowboys out this far."
"Cowboys?" You question.
"The way you rounded up those pirates? Hell yeah, you may as well be one!"
"I do not wear cowboy boots. I do not have feet." You're not sure where to begin.
"Don't get smart with me boy. So what resource do you got an excess of? We can pay good credits for it I'm sure. Just need to have a Freighter ready...you do have a Freighter, don'tya?"

>Freighter costs -100M -75G

>1 Approve
>2 Deny

((Note, you don't need to specify a specific amount, just decide which resource you'd like to provide for credits.))


Additional note
Poseidon requires crew payment, unless you wish to upset the populace
>1 Pay (-33,200 credits)
>2 Don't pay

Next destination
>1 Head their ourselves
>2 Prepare specific fleet (Specify)
>3 Send Explorer to scout (May be in danger, depending on where you will send it.

>>27697558
Kronos
>1 Yes

Trade
>1 Yes

>>27697803
>cooperation is appreciated

He's getting uppity.

Do we have the ability to assume direct control?

>>27697816
You may fight Kronos for control, yes. You did not design him with limitations as you did the others.

>>27697803
Ignore the no feet line, I forgot who you were talking to.

>>27697816
Well, might as well ask him now: "given the chance to, would you expand at my expense?"

>>27697803
Of course we're paying them.

Are we buying a freighter in order to sell things in that option?

>>27697803
>Freighter
1

Crew
2

Wait for Kronos to comb through the crew and fire non-essential/useful personnel.

>Destination
1 with our combat fleet. To the radio station!

>>27697803
>>1 Approve
Materials
>>1 Pay (-33,200 credits)
Can we fire some of the crew that have been doing nothing?
>Next destination
Lets go to the radio station and send an explorer with 2 VIS for protections towards the gas giant.

>>27697816
Destroy him now. Make a new one. This coddling is over and this failure needs to die.

Pay the crew. Then, buy the freighter.

>>27697867
You would be building a Freighter.

>>27697886
>1 with our combat fleet. To the radio station!
Sending a fleet to a radio station would give off the wrong signal lets scout first anon.

>>27697892
He hasn't done anything...

That's like going into a school and shooting a kid because he may be the next Hitler.

>>27697803
>1 Approve
I say we go with gas at the moment since we "are" taking from one of their own refineries. Hell, we would basiclly be selling them back their own gas.

>1 Pay crew

>1 Head their ourselves
At some point we should pay that radio station a visit. Could maybe work out a deal to have their signal travel through our bouys and provide music to whereever we are.

>>27697892
No. Superior option.

Let him grow for now, and later he will be integrated with Red.

I see no negative outcomes.

>>27697886
You do know they have defenses there right and are connected to the UFW.
>>27697892
We need a reason anon, but i do agree with taking controls of Poseidon to be 50%

Perhaps we should set up a betting pool between players?
Bet on how many threads you think till we have to fight Kronos.

>>27697803
>Freighter costs -100M -75G
>1 Approve

Going to need one sooner or later.
160 minerals and 65 gas.


>Poseidon requires crew payment, unless you wish to upset the populace
>1 Pay (-33,200 credits)

Ask Kronos to create a list of "essential" "potential" and "excess" personnel as per >>27697621. We can let them go after we've paid them.

Next destination
>2 Prepare specific fleet (Specify)
'Little Tim' Light Cruiser
Explorer Frigate

>>27697886
It costs 62.5 gas to move our entire fleet one direction. Fuck that.

>>27697924
>I say we go with gas at the moment since we "are" taking from one of their own refineries. Hell, we would basiclly be selling them back their own gas.
Wrong person anon, plus we need to save up n gas since we are moving our ships.

>>27697925
Now THAT is an interesting idea.

Once we learn more about the human brain of course.

>>27697946
I'm more up for how many threads can go by before too many anons become too paranoid and just nuke him.

>>27697924
>I say we go with gas at the moment since we "are" taking from one of their own refineries. Hell, we would basiclly be selling them back their own gas.
The gas platform belongs to UEGI, not the UFW.

>>27697925
>>27697965
This i'm okay with, but means we need to advance our tech in medical a lot.

>>27697925
>>27697988
>>27697965

>You want to understand the meatsacks, Kronos?
>What do you think about having one of your own?

>>27697988
Contact the UFW once we get to the radio ration and ask if they have any to sell?

>>27698005
We will do that later once we are sure no big side effects happen.

>>27697886
"Kronos, have you designated the most useful of the crew?" You request.
"Ophion, if I had it by my logic, the humans would be long gone." He explains. "They are, all of them, useless."
"I meant via skilled workers." You clarify.
"The most skill among them is a few doctors, engineers of low tier, and technicians. Much of the automated process has left the crew useless."

Trade Approved
>Paid -100M -75G
>Selling Minerals
You will be supplied with credits next Cycle.

"I appreciate the deal friend." The man laughs a bit through the comms. "It's difficult out here to tell if you have met a new friend or foe."
"I noticed your fleet commander at Voidsnake does not approve of me." You note. "Or rather, his tone did not suggest so."
"Like I said. This trade route may be the first step in earning some of that respect." He nods via his holo display.

Payment to Poseidon Issued. The Crew is now quite content.
Loading starmap for fleet deployment
Alert, moving a scout into a territory will leave you with no information until they return, unless your comm ship goes with them.
Keep this in mind as you decide how to proceed.

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>>27698058
>Poseidon Station: Mining space station positioned in a well mined asteroid field. Low Mineral count, and several hundred humans aboard.
>Moira's Scrapyards: Large debris field where old wrecked ships are sold for parts, melted down, new parts are bought, etc. Outpost Factory located here, under your control.
>Voidsnake Outpost: Previously a small Pirate operation that preyed on trading ships between other empires. Under UFW control. One Heavy Cruiser 'Gellion III', Five Frigates
>Pulsar Radio Station: Popular radio station for the fringe colonies. Multiple Energy Signals Detected.
>Gas Giant designated 'Blue Betty': Automated gas mining platform detected. All under your control, disguised V.I. here as UGEI controlled.
>Nethlos: UFW human colony detected. Currently Well Established. Mining platforms in progress Planetside. Dry rocky world, rich in minerals, yellow star.
>Ussaihu: UGEI controlled ice planet. Unknown resource value, orbital defenses detected. Intelligence Presence Detected: Moderate.
>Eshareth 'New Eden': Once a UFW Asteroid belt mining base. Recently destroyed due to Lightling attack. Rich Asteroid Belt, dense gaseous atmosphere. Small Malorian colony detected planetside.
>Gas Giant 'Siren': Gravity Well disturbance detected. Rich gas content. No mining bases detected.

>>27697958
second this.

also guys
THERE IS A WARNING POST THAT 4CHAN IS GOING DOWN AT 10PM FOR REPAIRS! IT MIGHT BE DOWN FOR 2 HOURS.

>>27698077
Where?

>>27698077
Wait for real? Shit. Do I just wait until it's back up and continue or what?

>>27698073
>>Gas Giant 'Siren': Gravity Well disturbance detected. Rich gas content. No mining bases detected.
Send our explore and our comm buoy with our 3 fighter VI.(we won't be taking over the radio station by force anytime soon unless you guys want to make enemies of the UFW.)
Also go to the radio station.

>>27698058
Perhaps it is time to fire all the unskilled workers and replace them with bots?
Paying 33k$ for doing jack shit is pretty retarded

>>27698073
Ties with the Malorians seem useful. New Eden?

>>27698073
Let's go to the radio station and see about these "energy signals"

>>27698119
This fire all unskilled workers.

>>27698058
>"I meant via skilled workers." You clarify.
>"The most skill among them is a few doctors, engineers of low tier, and technicians. Much of the automated process has left the crew useless."

"What would the consequences be of letting most of the useless crew go?"
and then.
"How do you propose we obtain more skilled crew." Let him (?) work it out.

>>27698127
It was stated to be the UFW unless it is something else now.

>>27698073
>Pulsar Radio Station: Popular radio station for the fringe colonies. Multiple Energy Signals Detected.

We'll travel there personally on our BS. Leave the fleet and comms ship here on maybe a patrol routine?

>Human crew
Lets fire 85% of the n on-skilled workers then. The 15% will be left to allow for more intra-human interaction for Kronos to observe.

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>>27698119
>>27698130
Hold your horses, let's ask Kronos to evaluate the situation before "letting them go" (NOT KILLING THEM, JESUS).

>>27698086
>>27698107
Pic related. Posting will be down. But since you have a twitter, just post what you decide to do.

>>27698194
>killing them

We need the bodies alive for experiments later.

>>27698149
>We'll travel there personally on our BS.
20 gas one-way, man.

>>27698207
Yes, and The Guild will be forever known at "that place where people go to be murdered and experimented on."

>>27698149
Why fire them when we can mold them into useful tools? They are unskilled? Then we shall make them skilled.

Have those who have skills teach those who don't. Hell, Moira might be able to teach them a thing or two.

>>27698120
The planet you're currently orbiting. They have named it as such and you detect fledgling forests planted on the surface, a special breed of plant that is somehow able to exist on the planet's hot surface.

>>27698135
>Skilled crew
Most likely, a place of high education. Highly civilized, or perhaps rogue agents who sell their skills. You have no way of contacting either at the moment.

Consensus to fire another large portion of the crew acknowledged.
WARNING Such an action will leave very little crew left. The size of the station and the lack of personnel may frighten the humans. They're quite skittish after all.

>1 Yes (Loss of nearly all of Poseidon crew, lack of human subjects to study, may affect remaining crew's morale. Accepting Kronos' point of view as well.)
>2 No (Keep up payments to rather useless crew members, until you find a purpose for them, one you may not have considered before.)
>3 Other

>>27698194
Crap, well alright then. I hope most of you folks are still game to continue after a long break.

Travel
>1 Gas Giant Siren Send: Explorer and Comms ship
>2 Pulsar Radio Station: Send Explorer and Comms Ship
>3 Pulsar Radio: Send BC (aka you)

>>27698225
Social experiments exist too, anon.

We could probably make them more loyal to us with only a little bit of indoctrination.

>>27698272
>3 Other
Just fire half the crew then.

>>27698272
>Travel
>>1 Gas Giant Siren Send: Explorer and Comms ship
>>3 Pulsar Radio: Send BC (aka you
These two work with me, but send two fighter VIs with them for protection.

>>27698272
I ay 2 for both. Let's not send out the guns to a radio station right away, yeah?

And I don't think we should give up our camouflage just yet.

>>27698194
For what time zone is that for?

>>27698272
>2 Keep the crew

Ask Moira what to do with them.

>3 Pulsar Radio: Send BC

>>27698341
I think moot uses ETC.

>>27698272
Keep like a hundred people or so I guess.

Would those people be useful when we move the station to the mineral rich sector and start mining in full swing or are robots still better idea?

>>27698272
shit, test post. my last couple of post have been eaten somehow.

>2 No (Keep up payments to rather useless crew members, until you find a purpose for them, one you may not have considered before.) remind Kronos that we have to put up a mask of being human. he should as well.

>>27698371
We probably could replace them all with construction bots, but that would cost a lot of resources.

>>27698278
we don't even know ourselves that well, how on space are we going to indocterate humans?

ever tried being FRIENDLY before? we are NOT shodan
>>27698327
this works for me. lets do this!

>>27698371
((I'll level with you Consciousness anon. Humans provide a wider range of possible incomes, robots a far more consistent one.
Humans make mistakes, robots don't, but because of that, Robots don't take risks either in other words.))

Poseidon left in tact

Destination Pulsar Radio Station. Preparing to send Explorer, Comms ship, and Two V.I. Cruisers.

If this is acceptable, confirm now.

((And we'll pick back up after 4chan comes back online, it's 10 minutes till 10 for me.))

>>27698418
Confirm and post on twitter when its back.
Will you do a longer thread since 4chan is going down or will it be short this time.

>>27698418
Note Gas cost comes out to 27.5G

>>27698418
Change the destination order to >>27698327 but other than that I don't see a problem.

>>27698272
Crew:
3. Ask Moira for an opinion.

Travel:
1. Gas Giant Siren Send: Explorer and 'Little Tim'

Instruct VI 6 to not engage hostiles. If hailed, to respond as "We are passing through the system."

>>27698392
they also know things we don't, and they can interact with areas we don't control.
>>27698272
we should use red as a contact between the xenos and us. then "request" they give us matrials we can use or sell (wood might be rare and valuable) for our "protection" from the other humans in the area.

>>27698327
>>27698418
Do this, then confirm.

>>27698444
Hmm.

Can we get Kronos to itemize and forward us the accounting specifics? I would like to know what we're paying for when we pay the crew.

I have a few ideas or suggestions, but I'd like to see the exact expenses if you're willing to provide them in detail.

Since the station is largely automated...why aren't we charging rent? Or something similar. Those who's jobs cannot be automated (yet) will retain a salary in exchange for useful work, but for the miners who are not mining...

>>27698464
>give us materials
Anon they are space hippies, we should be asking for info or tech from these guys.

>>27698418
I'll take the wide range. humans are fun to watch and learn from.

confirm!

>>27698444
if we have enough, do it.

>>27698464
In a post-scarcity/high sci-fi setting like this wood is only as valuable as: A) the provenance, or B) the decadence involved.

ie, a table cut from an old growth forest on Terra, or something like "I planted this tree and let it grow for 50 years so I could turn it into a table. Hedonism-bot is pleased."

>>27698485
Worth investigating.

>>27698485
yes, tech first, then either minerals/gas/or trade goods. AH! teach them how to brew beer and harder drinks! we can sell that! oh lord, we'll become boot leggers!

>>27698527
>Two Ton Terry is turned into a mobile distillery/brewery with a big fuck off gun

Oh yes. I am pleased.

>>27698517
it is worth looking into, wood is hard to come by out here in the fridge zones like this. and 50 years is not a old growth wood. it needs to be 300 or so.

btw, it seems that posting pics right now is not possable.

>>27698527
Okay now THAT I can get behind 100%

>>27698549
There was an "or," involved, darling Anon.

>>27698543
no, we need to go bigger. that and it probably is brewed better on a proper planet gravity well. this will take time. good wiskey takes awhile to make. and beer and spirets makeing is more acceptable to xeno hippies than clear cutting and deep shaft mineing.

>>27698444
i hope this thread gets saved so far at least.

Anyone here?

>>27698769
Still here.

>>27698769
Seems like posting is still up.

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>>27698769
I'm still here.
same anon that posted the phased step plan to move the station. I am more and more worried about Kronos. we are also losing control over posidon station. THIS IS NOT GOOD. this is the last time we can allow Kronos to grow. he's eating up too much. with his attitude of distain of humans is very worrisome.

>>27699189
maybe. test post again.

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>>27699211
pic test

>>27699248
>with his attitude of distain of humans is very worrisome.
There haven't been any humans worth considering, except Moira.

>>27699565
looks like we're back up for the most part. Program0, shall we contiune this?

>>27699587
but that line of thought is a dangrous one. AND we are losing control and BW to him. we can not afford to lose any more cyber space to him. nor lose the station to him.

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>>27699587
Moira is nice, but we need more than just her. I feel we need to go to that radio station and see if we can find some more people who are worthy of us hireing. like putting up a help wanted ad on crag's list.

Welp it seems that program left the second it became 10 pm for him.(i'm dead tired but i want to stay awake for this quest.)

>>27699764
They'll probably return after the 2 hours are up.

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>>27699764
he said he'll return when 4chan is back up. someone post on his twitter it's back up.

>>27699635
Why not? What's he going to do?

Kill more humans? To what end? There's better ways to get rid of them that don't harm us.

Kill us? How? What would he possibly gain? More bandwidth? Unlike Ophion, Kronos doesn't have "expand" as a primary goal, just learning. (Actually, this is worth clarifying.)

He's literally a splinter of our own mind, he runs on our systems, which is why we share bandwidth. He was created to learn, not expand, and, in time, I expect this learning process to pay off handsomely. We have very limited information, but if Kronos gets to the point where he's specialized for learning, it's possibly very very advantageous to him around. It's also helpful to have a trustworthy partner to hold down the fort, should we need to leave.

He's also a backup, should things go south.

It's probably worth to communicate with Kronos about his intentions regarding expansion and how he views us (superior? equal? unqualified master?). We're going to need to confront him sooner or later, and I say sooner is better.

Test post

Damn, it finally came back...so I royally screwed that up apparently, along with 4chan. I am pretty sure 70% of my players are asleep unfortunately however.

Shall I run another one Sunday to make up for this one ending early?

>>27698478
I do not fully understand what you request, Consciousness anon, I hope you can clarify.
As for the pay of the crew however, they are not aware of their unneeded input. They go about their duty, while your automation works silently in the background. This way they don't suspect anything to your true nature.

>>27698527
You may certainly try that if you wish.

>>27699601
>>27699764
Sorry about that, went to deal with a few friends. Didn't expect to have gotten the time wrong.

And it appears the new consensus for travel is for:
Battlecruiser and Light Cruiser to go to Pulsar Radio
Two Cruisers, Comms Ship, and Explorer to go to Siren.

>>27699979
Sunday's cool with me. I'm up now, but I doubt many others are.

And I gotta read this thread first anyway since I missed it when it started.

>>27700042
It was never specified what Koronos' priorities are when we created him. Can we recall what we programmed Kronos with? Aside from massive curiosity.

>>27700139
When you created the V.I., you did not specify a purpose, beyond 'placeholder'.
Learn is a priority you designated to him after his creation, one he seems to have accepted.

>>27700151
In that case, we should have a nice chat with Kronos. I seem to be the only one saying this, though, so whatever.

>>27700180
Hopefully, we may have a more proper session Sunday, if things go well. Apologies to all.

>>27700189
Yeah, Sunday is fine.

>>27700189
No problem, the shutdown screwed with a lot of threads.

>>27700042
Woo your back i went to sleep and woke up just now.

>>27700223
Apologies anon, I did not know I missed the time window on 4chan for the shut down. Will be holding another thread Sunday to make up the loss.

>>27700230
Its all good.

>>27700189
I can do sundays. just let us know via twitter.
>>27700230
hey man, shit happens, don't sweat it. it was down for nearly 3 hours before i said fuck it, i'm going to bed. we do need to save this thread however. SOME progress was made at least.

>>27700648
Worry not anon, I archived what little was done, though I am going to name the next one 11.5, I think. Together, they'll make a more complete thread.

>>27700670
Hell, this thread might still be up Sunday.