So some friends and I are planning on running a Legacy-era campaign during another Galactic Civil War. I'll be DMing and the players will be members of Rogue Squadron. Does /tg/ have any crazy ideas for objectives and missions to throw at the Rogues and their allies?>Inb4 missile boat boss battle
>>27507334A genuine Blue Milk Run.>mind games, a DMs TRUE secret weapon
What in-universe year, OP?
>>27508413I'm unsure right now but sometime between 45 ABY and the replacement of the X-Wing with the Crossfire (the ship used in the Kol Skywalker era comics). If it doesn't conflict much with canon, I was thinking 45 ABY, pitting the team against Daala's Maw Irregulars and the Galactic Empire remnant.
>>27508514>Doesn't conflict much with canonWhy not? Most of the canon sucks balls, conflict with it all you want.If anyone tries to get all pissy with you for not following the shit story, tell them to actually READ their precious story and then come back and tell you it's worthwhile.
>>27507334I know that everyone wants to be the ace pilot, but is being part of a different squadron so bad?Of course, then the GM has the Rogues show up and outclass you......Nevermind.
>>27508990Alright, then. Fuck it, 40+ ABY Third Galactic Civil War it is. Now on to mission ideas. This is what I've got so far:>Blue Milk run as pointed out by >>27508328>Training run with new recruits has team equipped with paint torpedoes in stead of real torps. Suddenly Imperial ambush.>Adumar-esque scenario in which players and Imps compete to curry favor of planet newly introduced to galactic community. Instead of pure dogfighting, however, the contest will be decided in a race around the local star system. Redline in SPACE.>Players sent to raid secret Imperial facility rumored to be producing supersoldiers and genetically-engineered pilots. Said pilots and soldiers turn out to be army of flight-qualified Ewoks. Yub, yub, Commander.>While stationed on Thyferra, the players and their NPC fleet are cut off from allied lines. They have to bargain with local pirate groups and planets using their bacta supplies and build up defenses against an incoming Imperial fleet.>>27509128Well, I'd make them Talon Squadron, but that just sets them up for a TPK.
>>27507334Throw out any and all EU stuff and just make it fun and interesting. (Because lord knows most of the EU isn't that).
>Gungan extremists take over Naboo and hold planetary leaders hostage. Rogues sent in with Wraith Squadron to liberate the planet. HARD MODE: Gungan genocide earns a dark side point.>Parts of the Katana fleet sighted in the Outer Rim with hard pictorial evidence. Three-way battle ensues among the New Republic, Imperial Remnant, and Daala's forces to capture these ships>Low on fuel and weapons power, the Rogues are ambushed by TIE Defenders. They can choose to fight the Defenders or evade them in an asteroid field populated by exogorths and colossus wasps>Experimental hyperdrives installed on X-wings malfunction, send players back in time to Clone Wars>Malfunctioning Trade Federation vessels surface over a decade since they went missing, attack everyone>Party's favorite sabacc table stolen by Black Sun. They threaten to place beverages on it sans coasters if the Rogues don't deliver the Super Star Destroyer currently under construction at Kuat to a set of coordinates in the Unknown Regions
>>27509165>Redline in SPACEYes.YES. YES YES YES YES.>>27509208You know you love Courtship of Princess Leia, don't lie.
>>27509420>Three way battle that involves Daala's forcesLet me guess; she somehow manages to not only lose her ships, but actually manages to make her opponents SPONTANEOUSLY GAIN SHIPS.
>>27509495By being so much of a crazy bitch that her dudes and the Katana Fleet defect to the other two factions? Probably.
>>27509514I considered that, but I figured that the opposing forces spontaneously gaining ships was funnier.
>>27509543>Wait, where did our reinforcements come from? And where did the enemy fleet go? It must have taken some sort of tactical incompete-->DAALAAAAAAAA
>>27509576I think you best look up the meaning of 'spontaneous', son. I don't mean that all her forces defect, though I don't doubt they would. I mean that her incompetence is SO great that extra ships appear out of thin air to fight her.Prestidigitation writ large, as it were.
>>27509611So, basically, Ursakar Creed is bizarro-Daala?
>>27509656I shudder to think of what would have happened if Creed had been part of the Empire. Thrawn? Just a kid playing Risk to a man who can sneak attack with a Death Star.
>Hey, Wedge, did you hear about the book Admiral Thrawn wrote?>No, what's the title?>The Art of War.>Wes, I'm going to kill you.
>>27509420>An entire campaign based on COASTERSI am both profoundly disturbed and surprisingly aroused by this.
>Party confronted by ridiculously campy groupies in X-wings calling themselves Rouge Squadron. Awkward meeting with these fangirls (and boys) turns deadly as Imperial patrol fleet stumbles into them.>New Republic Intelligence stages a public falling out between the Rogues and Pub leaders as part of plot to get Rogues to "defect" to Daala's side as spies. Proceed to tear shit up in TIE Defenders.>Mandalorian clan leader claims to possess last set of blueprints for the Missile Boat. Puts it up as prize for gladiatorial dogfights. Rogues join dozens of other factions' squadrons in a tournament arc to gain the plans to the deadliest starship in the galaxy.>Beleaguered New Republic senator requests the Rogues' services in a mission to his homeworld. Claims fear of assassination en route to his planet. Party must escort him in space and on the ground to his destination. Turns out he just wants to show off the Rogues to a girl he's courting.>While stationed on Tatooine, Jawas steal parts of the Rogues' X-Wings. Hijinks ensue as the Rogues hunt the Jawas around Mos Eisley. Coincidentally, a squad of Stormtroopers is also looking for them, because the Jawas nicked their blasters and explosives.
>>27510120I like most of these scenarios. I can see the "Comeon guys! Help me out!" storyline ending with "You know, if you'd just TOLD us, we'dve helped you out."That last one though, that has some excellent potential. Rogues and Stromies buddying up to get their shit back.
>>27509420star wars time travel could be cool as hell.
>>27509719My personal take on Thrawn: Thrawn was bullshitting everyone when he claimed he could predict the actions of enemy admirals from the art their culture produced. He just really liked art, and wanted to get his officers to at least fake an interest when he lectured about art.>>27510230How long before the players have the Rogues and Stormies disguising themselves as Tusken Raiders for some tactical hurk-durk action?
>>27510340Probably ten minutes in, once the Benny Hill theme starts.
>>27510340I personally like the idea of Thrawn being an art-loving genius twisted by the Wrinkly Bastard, but I think I'd respect him even more if he managed to fake people out while still being Just That Good.>>27510393You. I like you.
>>27509808>Yub Yub Commander>my face the entire time whilst reading Starfighters of AdumarBest EU novel.
>>27510570Aaron Allston confirmed for best Star Wars EU writer.
>>27510570I don't care what JJ Abrams does. Starfighters of Adumar will always be Episode VII in my headcanon.>Denis Lawson as Wedge once again>Nathan Fillion as Wes>Alan Tudyk as Hobbie>Benedict Cumberbatch as Tycho>Reading the book in their voices
>>27510594Hey hey hey, he's part of the Holy Trinity. He is the Face of Humor.>>27510570>Starfighters of Adumar is the best EU novelHmm... I personally preffer TTT for MUH SHIPPEN, but SoA is the funniest EU book around and I love it.That book has jokes in it I didn't notice for years. That, in my book (heh), is the sign of a good comedy; it keeps giving you laughs.>>27510651>Denis as Wedge againYes.>Nathan and Alan together as totalbrosYES.>Benedict Cumberbatch as a blondHmm.... I dunno, I don't see it.
>>27510722>TychoUh...I don't know. Are there any blond British fellows who can pull off the dry, stoic approach? I'm unfamiliar with the British acting scene.
>>27510736Does he have to be British?If it's established character stuff, fine. But don't get a British guy for aristocratic airs just cause you can.
>>27510794Seeing as Tycho was an Imperial defector, I guess it fit. His cameo in Rebel Strike also had him with a cheap British accent. Alderaan had families with Brit accents, too, so it sort of works in my headcanon. If we're ditching the accent, who else can pull off Tycho? Alexander Skarsgard? Maybe someone older?
>>27510839>Looking up Alexander SkarsgardHmm..... I could see it. He'd have to get flatter hair, but I cold see it.Fun fact: Kyle Katarn is also an Imperial Defector. And Crix Madine (who fucking DIED in that fucking shaggy dog story of Darksaber which WAS SO DUMB AAAAAAAA).I wish Jason Court wasn't so old. I would love to see Jedi Knight on the big screen.
Nominating Christoph Waltz for Turr Phennir.
>>27510947what Darksaber? Didn't happen. Not by my canon, anyway.
>>27509446>Courtship of Princess LeiaI only found out last year that it's generally regarded as terrible, reading the X-Wing books first completely reverses Zsinj's character into something actually passable.
I don't know why, but I can't help but think that somewhere in the galaxy, there are three wacky Imperial Moffs named Clarkson, Hammond, and May running around testing starships with their tame racing pilot, ST-16.
>>27511056Of COURSE it's terrible! I don't care! It's cheesy and stupid and I love it.>>27511048I have begun pruning the shit books I read from my memory, so yeah Darksaber is out. They killed Crix Madine for absolutely no reason, just for THAT it's out. Same with .... well, a lot of the 90s wasn't so good....I read the Jedi Prince series. Kill me now.
>>27511106Still better than Traviss. Dammit, all I wanted out of the RepCom series was tacticool espionage actionn IN SPEHSS, but instead I got MUH WARRIOR RACE.
>>27511123Am I the only one the Traviss hate doesn't make sense to? RC books were written to that part in all of us that really really hates the prequels, and the LotF parts with Fett are the only redeeming bit of that series.
>>27511106The Han Solo prequel trilogies both hold up pretty well, from what I remember.So much boring shit, though.
>>27511167Well see, having not read any of NJO or anything afterwards (except Mercy Kill), I gotta say that the bit of me that hates the prequels hates pretty much ALL of the prequels. Not just the wooden acting and the unnecessary political intrigue, but also the disposable war of clones vs robots.That, and she killed Muh Redhead.>>27511235>Han Solo trilogiesI have read both of those AND the Lando trilogy.They were positively scrumptious. And one of them was from the 70s/80s.
>>27511167Problem is that she spends so much time on Mando-wank that it detracts from character development and storytelling. Yes, we hated the fact that Jedi were portrayed as infallibly correct in so much of the SW canon, but her Mandalorians were painted the exact same way. Instead of skullduggery and tacticool operators operating operationally, we got MUH MANDALORIANS. Personally, I think the Allston-Stackpole-Zahn trinity should be given the task of writing RepCom novels that aren't arse.>Scorch, why is there a plush toy in the transport?>Yub yub, Boss.
>>27511247The main plotlines after NJO are awful, I wish I hadn't bothered. There's two things about the prequels that piss me off. Christensen's acting, and the portrayal of the Jedi in a Lawful Stupid light, and the RC books sidestep the first and stare daggers at the second.If it helps, my favourite books are Jeter's Fett trilogy, so maybe it's just a Mando thing.
Cripes. Traviss just ruined Mandalorians for me. I pretty much RP'd my Bounty Hunter in TOR as a non-Mando because I couldn't wash the bitter taste from my mouth after reading Order 66.>tfw only dude on the Imperial Fleet who doesn't speak a lick of Mandalorian
>>27510980>Not nominating Christoph Waltz, best troll, as Face Loran.Step it up, padawan.
>>27511355I want to see Chrstensen in something else, I want to see if it's him or the script and direction. Hell, it could be both. But I want to know.
>>27511415>Face>Former child actor>Ladies' man>Blond>YoungObviously, Face would be played by Neil Patrick Harris.Joseph Kucan for Ton Phanan.
>>27511429Alternately, I nominate a blond-dyed James Roday and Dule Hill as the Face/Phanan duo.
>>27511247NJO's... mixed. On one hand, way too much political herp-derping, especially early on. On the other hand, the books after Coruscant falls are all decent-to-good (or great, in the case of Traitor and Allston's pair of books).What comes after it is either mediocre/boring or just straight-up dire.
>>27511417I watched Jumper, I think it's both.
>>27511355Jeter's Fett trilogy! I kinda liked it, but I'm not sure how much of that is nostalgia. I think there was a neat thing with Dengar in it?Anyone remember the 'Tales of the X' books, where, like, they'd take random background characters from the cantina, or from Jabba's Palace, or the bounty hunters in Empire Strikes Back, and write short stories about 'em? Those were pretty good.
>>27511429>>27511464Pic related.>>27511355>>27511468If it's not worth it on the whole, I'm not touching it. I read one of the bad ones as a small child and I'm off NJO for life.>>27511492Really? Ah well, at least now I know. Script certainly didn't help.
>>27511468>Traitor/AllstonGonna need a high-five right here.I think the primary problem with NJO is too many cooks. The following two series also suffer from it, but more in the sense that all three authors seem to have completely different characterisation ideas. It's like when McNeill took Abnett's Horus and completely ruined the character in the second fucking book, except LotF and FotJ do this back-and-forth three times each so all the authors do is try to "repair" the characters to their personal characterisations which fucks the overall narrative.
>>27511429Nicole Kidman in her Interpreter look as Lara?
>>27511429Not Ryan Gosling?
Honestly, I think just about all the EU is shit, especially the stuff after RoTJ because they mess with the story and what happens with the characters so much and their portrayal is just so all over the place.They should just let go of Luke, Leia, and Han and go a couple hundred years in the future.
>>27511468I flat out hated the NJO books up until...maybe Balance Point, which I thought was okay. Edge of Victory was good, then Star by Star hit, and I liked pretty much everything after that, especially the Allston books.Dark Nest and Legacy were just bad and killed any desire to read Fate. Daala becoming Chief of State was a goddamned joke.
>>27511592See, the comics did that. They're treated as canon, and they're terrible.
I'm really glad to know that, despite hearing a lot of hatred for the EU, the X-Wing series is considered awesome. I was worried that everyone had shit taste but me.
>>27511593At least we got a new X-Wing book out of FotJ
>>27511593Pretty much tracks with what i remember, though I vaguely recall one or two books after Star-by-Star being kinda blah.Haven't read anything since NJO. Heard they ruined Jacen, ruined Tahiri, ruined Vergere, and brought back Daala. Fuck them.I should probably pick up Mercy Kill, though.
>>27511581>Nicole Kidmanno>Interpreter lookyes
>>27511592X-Wing books only rarely involved the major film characters [except for Wedge], and instead just told fun fighter-pilot and spy stories. And were awesome for it.
>>27511648If Disney was even slightly smart they'd adapt X-Wing as a TV series in a nanosecond.
>>27511581Probably.>Chris Evans in his Captain America look as Kell>Sarah Chalke as Tyria?>Stephen Fry as Zsinj>Gina Torres as Shalla>Christopher Lee or Tim Curry as Melvar>Patrick Stewart as PiggyWho would play Grinder, Castin, Jesmin, Myn, and Elassar?>>27511590I don't know Gosling's mannerisms and personality well enough to say.
>>27511683Fry as Zsinj is fucking inspired casting.
>>27511675>Zac Efron joins Rogue Squadron as Ben Skywalker>Pop music and cheap dance numbers everywhereNo. Non. Nyet. Nein.But I will still pay for Jedi Academy Musical.
>>27511720Marvel filmverse -> Agents of Shieldnew Star Wars films -> X-Wing?
>>27511683>Sarah Chalke as Tyria?For some reason searching Tyria gives me Anna Torv, either could work.
>>27511740...Fuck, that works. Someone check if Denis Lawson is still Wedge-qualified.
>>27511683Chris Evans playing Captain America is super credible and I don't see him being free to be Kell for a while.
>>27511683I love Christopher Lee, but he's too old for Melvar.I always saw Charlize Theron as Tyria, but that could just be me.
>>27511616>>27511648Allston saved X-Wing for me. Stackpole's first four were good, but they were getting a little stale. Stackpole wrote action well and not a lot else. Allston can write action and make me laugh, made Zsinj a credible enemy after the joke he was in Courtship, and the deaths in the Wraith Squadron novels were handled better than any of the nobodies who got axed in the Rogue Squadron books (with the exception of Diric Wessiri).
>>27511720>Jedi Academy MusicalThe... game? Or the book series?Both would be interesting to see, having seen Team Starkid's work and Legally Blonde the Musical
>>27511750He's an older model, sir, but it checks out.I think he's too old. Which sucks
>>27511760Who else in the acting industry can pull off the photogenic ideal Aryan man look?>>27511782And who has the chops to pull of Wedge's Scottish(?) accent?
>>27511782Forgot to post pic
>>27511760Worst-case, we bring Kell in later, change the story up. New film-verse anyway, so we don't have to stick to the canon. As long as Allston's got a major role in the scripting, all's good.
>>27511750>>27511782I am the sad. Everybody's old and shit. Shame he's so important for X-Wing because he's the only Wedge I'd ever accept.
>>27511808I think we have our Starfighters of Adumar-era wedge.
>>27511817Who plays Iella?
>>27511683>Gina Torres as Shalla>That whole discussion in Iron Fist when they're trying to sell the idea of Shalla having killed a Wookie in hand-to-hand combat.Yeah, I would buy Gina Torres taking out a wookie in hand to hand. Lady's a badass.
>>27511826Fuck. Uh...Jennifer Hale? I'm at a loss here.
>>27511811Could you handle Wedge being shoved up to like, Wing Commander, with some combination of Tycho/Hobbie/Wes running the Rogues and Wraiths?Of course, Lawson could put in the occasional cameo as a Wedge, prematurely aging by paperwork and bureaucratic bullshit...
>>27511835>Warrior woman in my Star WarsShinyPlus she's the daughter of a former Intelligence director who disappeared completely.Hey there, Ron Glass
>>27511863Alternately, we keep him as Old Wedge for the Mercy Kill generation of Wraiths.
>>27511863As long as Wedge Antilles is played by Denis Lawson we're all shiny.
>>27511811>>27511863You guys could also be underestimating the power of hair dye and a little makeup. He's certainly aged well, and some movie magic could make him appear only a little older.
>>27511871>Morena Baccarin as young Iella>Adam Baldwin as Corran Horn>Jewel Staite as a gender-swapped Cubber or one of the new Wraiths>Summer Glau as...someone. Myri Antilles?
Guys, we're focusing on the heroes here. Who plays the villains?Who could possibly live up to the role of Zsinj?Who would play Isard?
>>27511906>ZsinjStephen Fry.>IsardClaudia Black? Helen Mirren with a dye job?
>>27511881To be honest, I'd rather that X-Wing: The Series adapt the stories from the X-Wing books, but still feel free to mess with them, especially in ways that keep the shitty EU out. >>27511901Depends on how much he's willing to commit, too.>>27511932THIS.Was tempted to say Judi Dench, if only because evil M, but Kate Mulgrew'd be perfect.
>>27511905You just want Firefly back, dude.That said, I like Jewel Staite as someone like, say Inyri Forge.
>>27511923Wait, I take >>27511932 back, Helen Mirren pulling off Iceheart would be so cool to see.
>>27511952>You just want Firefly back, dude.It's true. sob
>>27511932>Kate MulgrewHuh. Her experience playing Janeway gives her the perfect balance of crusader, incompetent leadership and barely restrained insanity needed for the part. Inspired choice.
Tricia Helfer for Erisi Dlarit, anyone?
>>27511971>>27511956Alternatively, if going with Mirren for Iceheart, Mulgrew might make a good cameo as Daala.
>>27511956>>27511932>>27511906What about Cate Blanchett?It's weird to imagine her not doing that half-smile thing, but I imagine she could pull of an Iceheart glare.
>>27511971Hey, not her fault she got stuck with shit-tier writing.Have you seen her in NTSF:SD:SUV?
So if we're going by the main X-Wing series, who plays Leia? I don't think Carrie Fisher is really up to the task anymore. Would Sigourney Weaver fill the role well?
>>27511979Perfect, but I cannot think of anyone for Mirax.And speaking of Mirax, who plays Booster Terrik?
>>27512013>BoosterRon Perlman, baby.
>>27511992.....Hmm, she's got that kinda face, doesn't she. I could so see her as Isard. She'd be scary good at it, too.
>>27511952>Implying Firefly meets Star Wars wouldn't be a singularity of awesome>>27511468NJO was the last true Star Wars series.
>>27512034A bit too far along the adorable scale to pull off a convincing Leia.
>>27512030......Yes. I need this in my life.And he'd be in even more geek circles.Do it Perlman! Your wife needs more shoes!
>>27512030Weirdly tempted to say Brian Blessed for Booster, for some reason.
>It turns out that one of us is a Disney exec getting casting choices for freeIf only this were true...
>>27512057Maybe Perlman as Talon Karrde?It'd be nice to find some way to adapt Allston's NJO books to a TV series (you know, without having to throw in the rest of the NJO, which is too hit-or-miss, and way too complex, to work). Suggestions for an actor to play a Lord Nyax-type crazy force user, and an actor to guest-star as Luke?
>>27511999I wasn't implying that she's a shitty actress. I'm just saying that with having to act out an incompetent sociopathic character because of the shitty writing she was handed gives her the experience to play another incompetent sociopath.
>>27511932>Janeway's "mirrorverse" character is basically Isardexcellent choice.
>>27512111I'm unsure about Perlman for Karrde. Karrde seemed younger. And more porn 'stachey.>Guest-star as LukeHow long after Endor is the NJO series? We could just throw in old Mark Hamill if it's decades after
Who would be Baron Fel? Mark Strong with a beard?
>>27512149Like I said, I'd rather we not do NJO as NJO, and instead just adapt the stories to fit with a new canon.Now that I think about it, old Mark Hamill probably would work fine.
>>27512013Gemma Arterton or Stana Katic for Mirax.>>27512178>Baron FelI almost want to say The Rock, at least for looks.
>>27512149>>27512181Having Mark would be great if he slimmed down a bit. He doesn't need to be cut like when he was in his 20s, but of the three mains, only Ford is viably not-fat
>>27512041Have to go with this. Kate Mulgrew and Helen Mirren are both a bit old for Isard judging by most art I've seen.
>>27512469Speaking of Hansel and Gretel, Jeremy Renner for Kell?
>>27512145Does anyone else hear Ford from Psychonauts when someone says or writes this?>>27512599>Jeremy Renner>Dry wit>Actiony type.... Honestly I kind of want him to be Hobbie.That or Myn Donos, man learning to live again.
>>27512684Kell's pretty dry, and remember, he's the hand-to-hand expert until Shalla signs up.
>>27512741Isn't Kell supposed to be tall and blond, though? Renner seems more like Donos to me.
>>27512741>and rememberSorry, my memory would be laughed at by goldfish on certain subjectsAnd I am a bit ashamed to say that I haven't re-read X-Wing in months.>>27512765I know, right? I think Renner could definitely do a man slowly getting over the trauma of losing his entire squadron. He seems like he'd do the haunted loner type if anyone could, especially after Avengers.
>>27512765Wiki says brown hair, like the pic. Granted I have no clue where that pic is sourced from and there's at least one later X-Wing comic series with horribly off-model art. Renner is half a foot short though, Kell's ~6' 4-5"
>>27512811Yeah, Kell's pretty huge for a pilot. Definitely needs Captain America Chris Evans.
>tfw no new X-Wing or Rogue Squadron games>tfw forever pining for a team-up between Disney and Namco Bandai/Project Aces to create X-wing Ace Combat
>>27512870>Gettin' Star Trek, Avengers, and Firefly in my Star WarsYou better believe I want this. And since Disney likes money, they'll definitely make something that people WANT. Especially since Marvel doing their own thing with movies got them hella dough.
>>27512870Perhaps there'd be a flashback episode with Wes and Kell's dad and the Tierfon Yellow Aces?In which case, who do you cast as Porkins?
>>27512901Hell, I'd settle for an update that let me play it on a modern machine instead of having to keep an XP machine almost half as old as I am alive.
>>27512903Speaking of Trek... I feel like Alexander Siddig ought to find his way onto the cast. Suggestions?
>>27512930I..... I could see him as Thrawn, Karrde, Niles Ferrier (in a series of movies that would never happen), or heck even a good Wes Janson.
Hugo Weaving as Thrawn. Yea or nay?
>>27512992I could see him as what's his face. That Imperial Liason officer with the perfect memory. Except he's too old....But yeah, I don't think I'd ever really buy him as Thrawn. Exar Kun, now....
>>27512930I think he'd be a damn good Talon Karrde.>>27513045Kirtan Loor
>>27512982Why not do an adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy as part of the TV show, but one told mostly from the perspective of the Rogues? Like, we could bring in the good parts of the EU, rework what could be salvageable, toss the rest, and create new stuff to help fill in the gaps (and because there's no point in not telling *new* stories).Besides, even if the Thrawn trilogy itself is out, something on the lines of the Katana fleet has to make an appearance. I mean, a lost fleet is just too fun an idea to pass up.
>>27513045General Horton Salm, anyone?
>>27513105>SalmToss in >>27513102 and you got yourself a deal.
>>27513138I would pay good money to see Hugo Weaving in an A-wing.
>>27513153Y-Wings, and I have a feeling that Hugo Weaving would pay good money to be in an A-Wing, Y-Wing, or X-Wing.
>>27513176Hell, I'D pay good money to get into a cockpit of an A-Wing or any of the other starfighters. >Now imagining homemade flight simulator running X-Wing games with a custom cockpit setup around it
>>27509165>>Adumar-esque scenario in which players and Imps compete to curry favor of planet newly introduced to galactic community. Instead of pure dogfighting, however, the contest will be decided in a race around the local star system. Redline in SPACE.Throw in some other racer teams, the Hutts, Mandos, Droid team, maybe a reoccurring NPC
>>27513554dat planet Supergrass
>>27511642Okay, having actually watched The Interpreter, god DAMN, this is spot on acting-wise for Lara.How many of the Wraiths are we missing? I know there's a bunch that only show up for a single book.
>>27514438Castin, Elassar, Grinder, Jesmin, Falynn, and the Mercy Kill Wraiths.
>>27513539>IG-88>Mandalorian duoHell, we have Machine Head, Lynchman, and Johnny Boy already.
Wait, I've got it. David Caruso as Thrawn.>Thrawn: But it was so...*sunglasses* artistically done.>Pellaeon: NOOOOOO
>>27510722>>27510651>Alan Tudyk as Hobbie>Starfighters of Adumar>Wedge asked to pick three pilots to join him>He mentions Hobbie Klivian>Smash cut to Hobbie doing the "Sudden but Inevitable Betrayal" scene word for word in his X-Wing
>>27515716>JesminChris Rock. LEt him redeem himself from his other Star wars Alien rubberface role.
>>27516145>Chris RockOh god my sides were not ready.
>>27511772AH HAH HAH HA run Katarrrrn-the musical
How dead set are you on the Legacy era? Because if you are just going to redo Star wars books, you could just, redo them.
>>27516281Pretty dead set on Legacy. My desire to remain true to canon compels me to set the campaign during a time period that still gives me the freedom to make up missions and scenarios.
>>27516213>Opening song: "Beware the Beard">Act 1: Dark Forces>Act 2: Jedi Knight>Act 3: Jedi Outcast
>>27516437Hmm, well I haven't read Legacy so I don't think I'll be able to help with that.Best advice I can give is that you must resist the temptation of trying to get them to do an existing storyline.
>>27516802I'm trying to stay away from existing storylines, really. The lack of EU material between 45 ABY and 137 ABY is why I've gone with Legacy in the first place.
>>27516824And no superweapon plots. Star Wars has had enough of those already.
>>27516904The farthest I'll go is Super Star Destroyers.
>>27516928Good man. Oh yes, and remember that unlike the EU authors, you are not contractually obligated to include things from the prequels.
Is it weird of me that I like non-Jedi stuff in Star Wars the bestIt just seems like Force users are supposed to be really rare post-New Order yet EU authors just make everyone and their grandmother force sensitive.
>>27517085Not weird. It's hard to write Force-sensitives well when EU writers can't agree on set power limits, so we end up with ridiculous bullshit like Starkiller running around. There's also the fact that the Jedi code and training inevitably results in flat, stale saber-slinging Vulcans.And really, it's easier to relate to normals like the Rogues (except Corran because fuck Corran, he's boring) and Wraiths. They're normal.
>>27517123Yeah, the Rogue Squadron series was my second favorite EU series, behind the Thrawn trilogy. Give me starfighters and smugglers and Imperials. (not too hot on Mandalorians, but bounty hunters are cool too)
>>27517158Mandos are fine if they don't reach Traviss-grade MUH WARRIOR CULTURE and if they remain an enigmatic, rare, but powerful force on the field. Like Spehss Mahreens.The problem is when everyone and their mother is a fucking Mandalorian, at which point it stops being interesting. See: The Old Republic RP servers. Seems like every BH but mine was RP'd as a Mando.
>great ass thread by op>great replies and story hooks, fuck yeah>suddenly casting>suddenly talking about actors and their hair>suddenly all this gay shit instead of talking about RPG'sjesus lets get it together. EU will never be made into movies, just let it go. can we go back to talking about rpgs now
Speaking of RPGs, how does one properly simulate space combat and movement? Should I just combine the X-Wing game models, terrain, and tiles with EotE/AoR combat rules?
>>27517085I prefer Zahn's interpretation that the Force is a talented art, meaning there is none of this 'force sensitive' bullshit. ANYONE could become a Jedi if they had 'the most serious mind, the deepest commitment'. Of course, like anything, some people are born better at it than others and talents run in families sometimes.
>>27517300Did you know you can actually create whole scenarios in X-Wing Alliance's flight sim? I think it'd be really cool to have THAT be your space combat time, but it has no rollan.>>27517244>stop having fun guys! No, I will not give up my dream.
>>27516928If you have entire fleets made out of Super Star Destroyers, I will KNOW.
>>27517594>Daala throws three-SSD fleet at the New Republic>Forgets that their first stop is a planet garrisoned by fully-loaded B-Wing squadrons>Billions of credits sent to Kuat wasted
>>27517911>SSDs defect at the sight of all them B-Wings>New Republic names each of their 4 SSDs after Sabaac suits>New Republic Fleet Command start playing sabaac against their enemies.
>>27517911>implying Kuat didn't encourage Daala to choose the system garrisoned by the B-Wings>implying that the KDY technicians aboard the SSDs didn't force the ships to defect>implying that the head of KDY wasn't repaying a debt she owed to Rogue Squadron>implying it wasn't specifically a debt owed to Wes
>>27518191>KDY owes a debt to Wes Janson for unknown reasonsI'd read it.
>>27518231>Wait, since when did KDY owe YOU a favor?>Yub Yub, commander.
>>27518301>Aaron Allston presents a new X-Wing book set before all the bullshit that I refuse to read>All about the stuff Rogue and Wraith get out of through people owing Wes Janson>Never explains how everYes..... Yes, this will do nicely.
Rogue Squadron story hook -Fighter squadron exercise coming up... only you hear rumors that the winning squadron will become guinea pigs for the latest attempt to replace the X-Wing - which will mean giving up your astromechs, since the new fighter uses a different set up that doesn't involve astromechs at all. Can you 'throw' the exercise in a way that doesn't embarrass the squadron, or find some other way to make sure that you don't get stuck with the new fighters, or get the bureaucrats to give up on the project?
>>27518403I have the squadron technician go over the schematics.Since it's a government project trying to forcibly replace something that works just fine thank you, it will invariably be a shitty fighter.Alternatively; team up with the other squadrons and agree that no one wins. Since the terms were 'winning squadron', testing gets delayed enough for the previous plan to be put into place.
>>27518436>>27518403IIRC there was an X-Wing variant that tried ditching the astromech in place of a computer. It was scrapped because it was too vulnerable to sabotage since there was no astromech to protect it.
>>27518436Well, sure, it'll be a shit fighter, but it's supposedly cheaper, got allegedly better EW capabilities, the fighter's supposedly stealthier... and more to the point, it's a *joint* project, so it's got the Hapans, SoroSuub, the Verpine, etc. all backing it. Frickin' politics. Then again, thing about politics is that it's run by politicians, and politicians are always doing dumb shit.You probably won't get anything close to accurate schematics, but instead whatever bullshit numbers they're throwing at it. Not without setting up and calling in some favors, anyway.Finally, you can't throw the exercise the second go-around. They're threatening to promote Wedge into a non-flying job - and losing (or not winning) an exercise twice in a row would be as good an excuse as any.
>>27518597Petition Incom for support. Then test the fighter against fellow Rogues in X-wings. If the new fighters have their uses, commission a few in Rogue colors but keep X-wings as the workhorse. Even when E-wings came in as the standard, the Rogues stuck by their X-wings.
>>27518504What'd I tell yah?>>27518597..... Hmm."Janson." "Yeah, Boss?" "Get me accurate schematics of that hunk of scrap they're foisting on us. Better, get me as many prototypes as you can.">exercise comes around, a squadron (not Rogues) go out in every prototype of the fighter that currently existed>Shit-tier fighter performs shitty against decent fighters, even with a decent squadron at the stickRogues win games, fighter is shown to suck balls. Possibly some more of that wonderful mid-battle hacking from the first X-Wing book.
>>27518403Also: in the first session or two, you play your pilots' astromechs as they do droid espionage action to uncover the rumors, meeting up with a Gonk droid informant, evading the prying eyes of NRI mouse droids (at least one of which is actually a double agent for the ISB), etc.Droids are fun.
>>27518698>Droid diplomancer pulls Lara Notsil's king of the droids trick>Cue sabotage everywhere>AMUSED BEEPING
>>27518683>implying Wedge wouldn't have Iella obtain the real schematics.>implying Iella didn't get Wedge to promise her a romantic getaway>implying that said 'romantic getaway' won't also be an excuse for NRI spying adventuresIt can't always be Wes, you know.
>>27518754.....Alright, you're idea for who gets them their info is better. And I want to see more of Wedge Antilles; Master of Everything Related to Tactics
>>27518767>Iella picks up folder from cloaked man>"Don't tell him you're the one who really picked up these files, yeah?">"Yub Yub, Iella.">Wes fades back into the shadows to continue his espionage campaign
>>27518767As do I.Maybe he could pull off something like Operation Bolo? Fly in like you're a squadron of B-Wings, and put out false sensor data to make it look like that, so that you can draw out enemy starfighters with some tempting bomber bait (who've been keeping themselves carefully hidden). Only instead of bombers... X-Wings!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bolo
>>27518795>Wes meets up with his astromech.>A day passes>Tycho receives a package.>It's a pie, in the shape of the shitty fighter.>Winter smiles.>Wes Janson has returned a favor.
>>27511468>>27511593The only thing that really pissed me off about Star by Star was that they had spent like the entire series up to that point building up Anakin Solo, and then he dies two thirds of the way into the book. The majority of the books after that were pretty good, save maybe the one where Jania has her brush with the dark side. I fucking loved the final battle in Destiny's Way though, I started laughing hysterically when the narrative went back to the NR transports that had fled into hyperspace two minutes into the battle, and is all "So yeah, those ships you probably forgot about five chapters ago? They drop out of hyperspace and start laying ALLLLLLLL THHHHHHEEEEE MIIIIINNNNNEEESSS.">>27518504The fact that every X-wing of that production run came straight out of the factory with five kilos of high explosive wired into the navicomputer might have had something to do with that.
>>27518959>came straight out of the factory with five kilos of high explosive wired into the navicomputer
>>27518959Yeah, whichever book that was (the one with Jaina maybe going dark-side, then not), that was the one I remember being disappointed in. Ah, found it on wookiepedia: Dark Journey. That was a dull book."Ackbar's back." Fuck yeah, Destiny's Way!I kinda liked how the Chiss apparently use books, not datapads. Was kind of an amusing touch.
>>27519007Basically TL;DR, one of Luke's old Jedi students went full Space Hitler when his folks were wiped out by a repressive regime, did some ethnic cleansing on them, then bought out a droid manufacturer with the old regimes looted treasury. He then deliberately underbid on a part supply contract when the NR started going around asking electronics manufacturer's for quotes on the new X-wing's computer systems. And every computer and droid built for the NR had a bomb built into it, the plan was basically to blow up two thirds of the New Republic's fighter fleet and every gunnery and engineering droid on every capital ship in the fleet at the same time. At least if I remember correctly. Really the only notable parts of that book were Wedge mindfucking some droid controlled Star Destroyers, Luke goddamn Skywalker nearly losing a lightsaber duel with the student, who probably has been using a lightsaber for less then two years at that point, and a bunch of military droids getting torn apart by a sea of enraged astromech droids.
>>27519145>Luke Skywalker, natural duelist and someone who can actually beat a more experienced opponent in berserker rage without suffering injury>Losing to a greenhornNope.>Jedi students went full Space HitlerI am tired of that plotline. A bunch of mind readers should be able to see a psychopath in the making.
>>27519145Oh god, I remember that book. The New Rebellion, I think it was called. Dull, pointless book.
>>27519209Clarification: Luke in berserker, not the opponentI'm also pissed with the number of "Luke goes bad" stories, theories, and fanficIf Luke can resist the goddamn Emperor on pain of death, I think he's not going to turn.
>>27519209Well actually now that I think about it, I think Luke WAS severely injured about halfway into the book and then mauled by some giant fluffy empathic dog-wolf... thing.
>>27519209Star Wars EU that's worth reading, in no particular order:Both Han Solo trilogiesX-Wing books (though Stackpole's last book in the series was kinda blah)Traitor, from the NJO books. I don't know for sure how much context you'd need from the rest of NJO, but it's a great book.Thrawn Trilogy, and Spectre of the Past/Vision of the FutureRevenge of the Sith novelization (seriously, it was really well done)Labyrinth of Evil (same guy who did the Episode III novelization)Darth Maul: Shadow HunterShatterpointShadows of the EmpireMight be worth reading:NJO, especially from Destiny's Way on.Lando trilogyThe Truce at BakuraBlack Fleet Crisis?? (more 'professional' take on the New Republic military, a bit bland, but it's at least competently written, doesn't feature Imperial Superweapon or Luke goes bad or other shitty cliches, and it does feature awesome Wookies; there's also a subplot involving Lando, Lobot, Artoo and Threepio on a ghost ship called the Teljkon Vagabond that I kinda remember liking as a kid).I, Jedi?? (if you don't mind Corran Horn from Stackpole's X-Wing books, this is kinda fun; otherwise, don't bother)
>>27519458I already read most of your list. And if Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter is about a dude who's finds out about Maul and investigates, then I read that one too.But NJO, man. NJO and anything after is something I can't do. Irrational fear just works that way.
>>27519743That's the one.Yeah. There's good stuff in NJO... but it's long, and there's a lot of bad stuff in it, too. Thus, it *might* be worth reading, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it.
>>27519770And that's okay. But I find that good parts of a series need an understanding of the rest of the series to get the full effect.On an unrelated note, have you read Scoundrels?
>>27519857I know what you mean.Nah, but it sounds pretty good.
>>27519886It was so lovely. Oh lord all that plotting, it was GLORIOUS.And we get a wonderful explanation for why Lando was pissed when Han showed up in Empire Even if I still wish that it had happened more than three years before. Gettin' awful crowded in my sky.
I liked the Medstar Duology because it wasn't just about Jedi or fighter pilots, but actually tried to explore something else, namely a front line medical unit on a contested planet.
>>27519983hadn't read that one, but it does sound neat
>>27519983Is it.... funny?
>>27520299No, but now I want to see Scrubs in space written by Allston
>>27519458>Black Fleet CrisisThat trilogy was absolutely terrible, and you should feel bad for recommending it.The Young Jedi Knights novels, though simple and aimed at a younger audience, were surprisingly readable.Corellian trilogy had some neat concepts but was poorly written.
>>27520343>Wants Scrubs in space as written by Allston>Not M*A*S*H in space as written by AllstonI find your lack of taste disturbing.
>>27520404nostalgia getting the best of me?Agreed about the YJK books.
>>27520404I read Young Jedi Knights. That series should NOT have worked as well as it did, especially not with Kevin J. Anderson co-writing. >Corellian Trilogy>ANOTHER superweapon>Entire solar system artificially created, planets have engines in them>Identical twin cousin>"IT MUST BE MARA'S FAULT!">Getting around interdictor field with micro-jumps on fuse timersYeah... some ideas were cool, but a lot of bad stuff in it
>>27520429I never got to see much of MASH. Didn't live in the States in my youth and didn't get MASH from my broadcaster. As long as I see the adventures of Ton Phanan and his beleaguered interns, I'm fine.
>>27520508I agree with the need to see more Ton Phanan
>>27521484You called?>Ron Perlman is best Booster Terrik
>>27519458>no Bounty Hunter Wars
>>27521530forgot about 'em.they were decent, i think? for some reason, i don't remember much about them. i'd put 'em under 'might recommend'.
Anyone else got potential mission ideas?>While cooperating with the Imperial Remnant vs. Daala, the Rogues are hailed by an unknown squadron of TIEs painted in Alliance colors. Cue sudden but inevitable Imperial betrayal.>Rogues and their allies ambush an Imperial convoy in a nebula. Due to environmental effects, shields and much of their electronics are nonfunctional, but so are the Imperial capital ships'. The battle comes down to the Rogues' skill and luck as even common TIEs suddenly become much more lethal>Cue repeat of Ace Combat: Assault Horizon's hurricane mission as the Rogues battle the 181st at the edges of the biggest storm in Kamino's history>While stationed at an outpost, poor intel and spy networks fail to detect a massive enemy force which drops out of hyperspace right on top of the team. The base's commanders are killed in the initial salvoes, and it's up to the Rogues to lead the base's rookies through a fighting retreat.>Colossus wasp migration turns hostile>Ancient Rakata star fortress discovered with firepower on par with a Super Star Destroyer. Initial competing NR and Imperial expeditions suddenly go dark as the fortress comes online. Will the Rogues subdue the station and capture it for the Republic or be forced to destroy this priceless treasure trove of archaeotech?>Rather than trying to capture neutral Cloud City and its refineries, Daala sends forces to destroy it. Players must coordinate with local defense forces and the Imperial embassy's garrison to hold the line until reinforcements arrive.>Players sent on 5-year mission in Unknown Regions to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and civilizations, and go boldly where no sapient has gone before.
>>27521916The squadron's support ship suffers a failure in its primary hyperdrive and they stop in an uncharted system to effect repairs on the nearest planet. The planet is actually a secret automated droid foundry dating back to the Clone Wars. It is also slowly coming back online the more the pilots fuck about on the surface. Can the pilots hold out against thousands and thousands of battle droids long enough to get the freighter's hyperdrive fixed?
One last bump for mission ideas.
More of a wraith squadron-type mission, but could work for either: Tiger team! The squadron (or perhaps just elements of the squadron) has taken a good deal of damage, and has put in at a major repair facility. While you're there, you're asked to serve as a 'tiger team' - probing the security measures of the facility to find (and shore up) the holes in their nets. During your probes, however, you find evidence that leads you to suspect that there's corruption or espionage or something like that going on, and the base commander seems deeply involved. So why'd she have you do the tiger team tests in the first place? And with your fighters' hyperdrives needing to be completely overhauled, you're not necessarily going anywhere, so you've got time to investigate things.
>>27527832sneak into an Imperial testing facility where they're trying out a new starfighter design (or something), get sensor scans of the tests, sneak out?perhaps there's an NRI agent you're asked to help exfiltrate as well.
>>27521916>That last oneNope, sorry. No Star Trek in a universe where Thrawn already mapped out (and subjugated into the Empire) the whole place for funsies.
>>27527832>Someone has been raiding supply convoys across three sectors. The items stolen are relatively worthless and completely unrelated to each other. Intelligence is stumped and all leads so far, their leads are turning up dry. So NRI turns to a group who played prophet once before; Wraith Squadron.
>>27529257move out of the galaxy, maybe? outbound flight 2.0?But the Star Wars Trek is more of a campaign than a mission.
>>27529303>The items turn out to be part of a secret bantha conspiracy involving a coralskipper, a moff's casket, and the very very detailed plans for a Coruscant building that doesn't officially exist.
>>27529837I was thinking weird things like engine grease, ten tons of bread, two plates of transparisteel, hundreds of yards of fabric, and other bits and bobs.But your idea is interesting as well.
>>27529837>distractions include a theory that the items are being gathered by a crazed Corellian's cyborg creation
>>27529939>CyborgTON PHANAN LIVES
>>27528212Pretty cool idea, especially if the ringleader of the whole operation decides to go hot and attack the Rogues' fighters near the end. Great opportunity to pit players against New Republic starships.
>>27529935>Engine grease>Bread>Transparisteel>Fabric>Elbow grease>Headlight fluid>Other knickknacksAll of these are being sent to a band of comically inept xenophobic Jawas planning their glorious conquest of Tatooine. These are the same Jawas who stole the Rogues' X-Wing parts and the Stormtroopers' weapons from >>27510120