As Princess Marianne closes her door, you take a long sigh of relief before making a quick stop at your room to grab a few pencils. After doublechecking that you do in fact have your sketchbook on you, you head back out into the hallway.

You waste little time in making it to the kitchen, where you assume that you'll find Nicolette waiting for you... and luckily, your assumption was right! She's standing in front of the entrance to the kitchen, talking to Sylvie as usual.

"Oh, hey! You're early today," Nicolette says, waving to you.
"Um... good evening, Reinhold!" Sylvie joins in.
"Hey, you two," you say, stopping in front of them.
"Ehehe, I bet you rushed down here so early because you were anxious to finally get a chance to draw me," Nicolette teases as she nudges your shoulder.
"Actually, I just got done having dinner with the King and then Marianne headed to her room for the night so here I am," you reply.
"Seriously? Aww, I wish I'd known about that," Nicolette says with a disapointed look on her face.

>ask about sketching her
>talk about something else
>[OTHER]

Rolled 9

>>27459373
>>ask about sketching her

>>27459443
Seconding this. No time to waste with not-drawing.

>>27459373
>>ask about sketching her

>>27459373
>ask about sketching her

But mention we're still excited to do this.

>>27459373
>talk about something else
"So what have you two been up to today?"

>>27459373
>>27459495
>ask about something else
We'll get around to sketching soon enough.

>writing

Have we learned Royal Guard yet?

We should really get on that sometime.

>>27459542
last thread made me realize something. we still do not know the whole size of the royal family and extended families (living or dead lately)

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>ask about sketching her

"So," you begin, "about that sketch..."
"Ha! See, Sylvie? I told you that he was itching to draw me!" Nicolette nudges Sylvie's arm with her elbow. "sorry to disappoint you though, you're gonna be drawing me as-is. Fancy dresses or whatever wasn't part of the bet," she says as she sticks her tongue out at you.
"That's fine with me," you reply.
"So, where are be going to be doing this? There's still a little bit of daylight, so maybe outside? Or maybe the library, since it's quiet there?"

>where go you want to go?

>>27459634
How do you mean? Like the different members of the Royal Guard, their responsibilities, shifts, standing orders?

>>27459719
I'd say let her pick.

>>27459719
I vote outside. Knowing her, Nicolette indoors is not the best choice.

Rolled 11

>>27459719
The Library, Sketching takes time and both of you are press for it and with his skill and limited daylight the picture won't turn out as good.

>>27459719
Library.
>>27459634
If we weren't all about the sword I'd be all up for it.

>>27459719
Are there any high places? I'd kind of like to draw her with a large expansive landscape in the back

>>27459719
Library sounds good, because we don't know how long it'll take and we won't be disturbed while we're there.

>>27459736
I meant more of a defensive style.

>>27459719
does the palace have protective out walls we can walk on? haveing a sketching of her with the city in the far background would be nice.

>>27459719
Library

>writing

>>27459851
but the spooky ninja librarien is there!

>>27459888
we can draw him in the background as a mysterious shadow

>>27459913
you can't draw what you can't see!

>>27459925
See, since we can't see him it's fine to draw there.

>>27459350
Library

We can get Ninja librarian to set up lighting and draw her reading a book

That way she can be occupied while we draw

>>27459790
Actually this

Provided we can get lighting (which shouldn't be hard considering its a wall that's patroled

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"Hm. The library sounds nice, I guess. I'll be able to focus on drawing without having to worry about losing daylight or getting in someone's way," you say.
"Alright, then. I guess I'll be able to avoid people making smartassed comments there," Nicolette replies, scratching her head. "Though that Gerhard creeps me right the hell out sometimes."
"Eh? But Mr. Gerhard's really nice," Sylvie says in protest.
"He's an alright guy, but the way he'll just pop up out of nowhere is just..."
"I know what you mean," you say, laughing.
"I'm surprised that it doesn't bug you, knowing how jumpy you are," Nicolette says to Sylvie.
"Um, I guess I got used to it pretty quickly," she replies.

Nicolette then stretches out her arms, filling the air with several loud cracking sounds.

"Alright, that's enough wasting time! The sooner we do this, the sooner I can get back to doing other stuff!" Nicolette says as she cracks her knuckles.
"Oh, okay... I guess I'll see you later, then..." Sylvie says as he starts to walk away from the two of you.
"Hm? You're not coming?" Nicolette asks.
"Um, I don't want to get in your way so I'll go and do something else..." Sylvie replies, fidgeting.
"C'mon, don't be like that! I don't mind if you come along! What about you, Reinhold?"

>ask Sylvie to come along
>leave her alone

>>27459719
Library. I don't think we are good enough to make a decent sketch with what little daylight is left

>>27460144
>ask Sylvie to come along

>>27460144
>>leave her alone
Let the girl make her own choices

>>27460144
>>ask Sylvie to come along
I actually have some questions after i finished, plus i need nicolette to stay still.

>>27460144
>ask Sylvie to come along

>>27460144
"Yeah, sure. Come along. Maybe I'll sketch both of you."

>>27460144
>ask Sylvie to come along
We can still have a conversation with her as we sketch, since Nicolette will need to be as still as possible for best results

>>27460144
>>ask Sylvie to come along

I also recall we were going to ask to borrow Magic for Dummies from her, since she cleaned out the library of all beginner-level magic books.

>>27460173
>>27460144

>leave her alone

Go with this. She can come along if she wants to.

>>27460144
"Well you don't have to, but you certainly won't get in the way."

>>27460144
>Nicolette then stretches out her arms, filling the air with several loud cracking sounds.
"Holy shit did you just break your arms."

>>27460233
She's just that fuckin' hardcore.

>>27460144
>>ask Sylvie to come along

Best girl come.

>writing

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Does Nicolette have an official design? Because my head-canon of her right now is pic related.

>>27460323
What? Not Saber?

>>27460338
It's all in the weapon.

>>27460323

I always imagined Cordelia for her instead of Sully.

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>>27460323
she has long hair and isn't wearing slutty armour.
This is my head cannon.

>>27460338
I just remember a picture of Signum being posted with her introduction, so she's looked like that to me ever since.

>>27460375
>Choosing long hair over short hair for your tomboy spear wielder

>>27460338
I'm coming of a FE kick so yeah, my mind jumped straight to her.

>>27460338

That's pretty much what I think as well.

>>27460383

Signum seems a bit too mature and serious for me to look like Nicolette.

>>27460429
I like short hair, but it doesn't work with that design.

Rolled 3

>>27460441
My head cannon is Female Knight

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>ask sylvie to come along

"It's fine with me if you want to come," you say.
"Oh- really? Umm, I guess I'll come along if you two really want me to..." Sylvie says, looking at the floor.
"Quit being so shy, we both know that you really wanted to join us~" Nicolette teases, a grin on her face. "You want to chaperone so you can make sure that Reinhold here doesn't try anything funny, I bet."
"Eh- no, that's not- Nicolette, stop saying things like that!" Sylvie squeaks out as she smacks Nicolette in the back of the head.
"Ehehe, I guess I deserved that..."

The three of you then head upstairs to the closest library that you could find... which also happens to be the one that you've already visited twice today. As you enter, you brace yourself for...

"Ah, Reinhold. Third time's a charm, I suppose? And with a different assortment of people each time..." Gerhard says with a bow, once again appearing out of nowhere.
"Geh- Hey, Gerhard. It's been a while," Nicolette says with a weak smile.
"Hello again, Mr. Gerhard!" Sylvie says cheerfully.
"And what brings you to the library this time?" Gerhard asks.

>how do you respond?

>>27460462
I think you can definitely find similarities between Nicolette and all the girls mentioned so far.

It's all up to archelon in the end though. I just like to see something different from fair featured and long flowing hair.

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>>27460375
I agree, this is now my head cannon

>>27460375
Closest hair and armorwise, though she's a lot younger (she's 16) and hr hair's a silvery color.

>>27460546
"I am going to draw this beautiful woman with naught but a piece of graphite and my bare hands. And maybe some paper."

>>27460323
A bit late, but I really hope she's not wearing a toilet on her neck.

>>27460606
Seconding this.

>>27460546
>>27460606
Actually, let me rephrase that.

"I intend to capture the beauty of this fine woman with naught but my bare hands! Oh, and maybe some paper and graphite, too."

>>27460546
sorry to intrude Mr. Gerhard. i just wish to barrow the library once more to do some drawing with Miss Nicolette as my subject.
>>27460548
wait, it fits! the princess is a blonde, Nicolette is a red head, sylvie is a brunette. i guess the glass maid is raven haired too. a full set!

>>27460630
>>27460606
this.

>>27460546
>>27460546
Well it's sort of his space so we should be polite about it. "I'm looking for a good place to sketch this beautiful woman, and thought this Library might be suitable.

>>27460630
I'm tempted to make this more suggestive, having Reinholde's hands sort of grope the air as he says "bare hands!"

Or would that be going overboard a bit?

>>27460666
Just wild generic gesticulating is fine.

>>27460666

Quit while you're ahead wrenloft.

>>27460573
>likes girls that don't look like sluts
>has images of Kirino
Does not compute.

>>27460666
over board, plus we aren't perverts.
Also a reply to any other perverted jokes by the tomboy should be dead panned and honest.(we lived in a haven of perverts and heard alot worse)

>>27460699
Kirino is often deceptively garbed.

>>27460604
16? Really?

Thats a bit young.

>writing

>>27460733
we are 17.
Plus during this time 40 or 50 was considered pretty old(thats not counting magic obviously, but only the nobles could get older than that)

>>27460733
There are Reasons for that..
Also she's pretty much able to own anyone else in he Royal Guard in single combat aside from the other captains.

>>27460756

Average life span of a peasant was about 60 or so last I checked. So yeah old as hell.

>>27460756
meant to say only nobleman and mages could get access to it to prolong thier life.

>>27460699
i have a limited reaction pic file to choose from, and that image is the closest i could find to what i feel is my reaction.

>>27460756
Peasants live standard peasant lifespans. Nobility gets longer due to better living conditions.
Magicusers get delayed aging and extended lifespans depending on how powerful they are.

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>>27460804
here have one as a gift.
>>27460849
good to know.

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>>27460860
i have one for you too.

>>27460849
>Magicusers get delayed aging and extended lifespans depending on how powerful they are.
So if we want to live long, and we have access to magical education, there's no real reason not to get it?

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>>27460901

>>27460909
it does require us to actually have the ability to use magic, which we don't know if we can or not yet.

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>>27460942
replace the catgirls with the princesses and it probably is what our MC feels some times. (or make the princesses AS cat girls for more wtf)

>>27460546
>not inviting her to our room for sketching
Its like we dont even care

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>>27460909
or we can pay some one.
>>27460978
This is what i image Luciana to look like.

>>27461003
we come from poverty, so we have zero fucks to give

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"Well..." you clear your throat. "I am going to draw this beautiful lady with naught but my bare hands! ...oh, and maybe some paper and graphite too," you say with your best impression of Monique.
"I see, that certainly does sound like a pleasant way to spend an evening!" Gerhard replies with a genuine smile on his face. "I take it that's why you requested that book on sketching techniques earlier today."

You then look over at Nicolette and Sylvie... and they are staring at you like you've just lost your mind.

"R- R- Reinhold! You ARE planning something indecent! I can't believe that I thought you were a genleman, you're no different from..." Sylvie stammers, her eyes wide with shock.
"Calm down Sylvie, I'm sure he was joking," Nicolette says as she places her hand on Sylvie's shoulder. "Pretty sure he was, anyways..."
"Uh... yeah," you reply, kind of surprised that they took it that poorly.

"So Reinhold," Gerhard says, clapping his hands together. "shall I prepare a place for Nicolette? As there's noone else here, I have no problem with wherever you would like to draw her."

>where do you want Nicolette to stand/sit? (window, bookcase, table, etc.)

>>27461014
she's a trap?

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>>27461014
Also available in color.

Rolled 75

>>27461076
>window
stand
looking out the window

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>>27461076
damn it guys, just... damn it. we just lost points with the girls!

the window will do fine.

>>27461078
look wise yeah
>>27461092
not as good.
>>27461076
Say window/ stand
While drawing try and explain the joke.

>>27461076
First, ask where she's comfortable with.

Though, I think she'd look good up against a window with a bookcase on the side

>>27461076

And this is what happens when you dimwits try to be smooth.

>>27461076
The window will be fine.

>>27461076
Window, perhaps looking out. Good raking light, if the sun's still up and this is the right side of the palace.

>>27460666
Calm yourself satan
>>27461076
Let's use a window to capture some of the reflection


Also mock nico for panicking

Let her choose a pose I guess

>>27461076
Window

>>27461180
Sylvie was the one who panicked.

Still, probably reassure them that we were kidding.

>>27461115
No
Never explain a joke
It only makes it more awkward

>>27461115
not entirely sure what the joke is

>>27461199
This. Just let it go and move on.

>write

>>27461199
they misunderstood pretty badly.
>>27461215
we were mimicking the blonde guy.

>>27461236
I got that. ...
But you never explain a joke

The most is comfortable with is indirectly explaining it like mentioning you didn't think they were that sensitive to blondie's antics

>>27461356
i'm okay with this way of explaining it then.

"Hmm... how about by the window?" you ask Nicolette.
"Fine with me," she replies.
"Very well, I'll go fetch you a chair," Gerhard says with a slight bow.
"Hm? No, I'm fine with standing."
"Eh? But you could end up having to stand in one place for a while..." Sylvie says to her.
"Pshaw! You're forgetting that I used to have to stand guard at the castle gates every day for six hours at a time!" Nicolette taps a fist against her breastplate. "Compared to that bullshit, this is nothing!"
"Uh, if you say so," you reply, deciding not to question her resolve.

"Very well, then I'll go fetch chairs for you and miss Sylvie," Gerhard says, disappearing into thin air before anyone could say another word. A few seconds later, you spot him by the window, placing down a few chairs and a small table.

"Is this adequate?" Gerhard asks.
"Looks good, thanks," you reply.
"If you happen to need more pencils or paper, just ask. I have more than enough to share from my own personal supply," he says to you with a bow, and then wanders off into the shadows.
"Alright, then..." Nicolette says as she heads to the window and stands beside it. "This good?"
"Yeah, that's fine," you reply.

Sylvie takes a seat beside you as you bring out your art supplies and quickly get to work.

>roll 1d20, taking the first three rolls.

Rolled 9

>>27461429
Magic

Rolled 11

>>27461429

Rolled 10

>>27461429

Rolled 7

>>27461429
please good drawing

>>27461429

Rolled 7

>>27461429
best of 5 or 3?

Rolled 18

>>27461429
dont we get a bonus for practicing and reading the drawing book

>>27461441
>>27461444
>>27461449
how average
like, Stahl levels of average

Rolled 3

>>27461429
Damn it I'm late, but rolling anyway

>>27461441
>>27461444
>>27461449
What I'm really surprised by is how I'm not surprised at all.

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>>27461477

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This is all I can think of.

>>27461504
WTF? That's definitely not what I uploaded. I don't even have that picture?

>>27461504
>>27461525
Sure you don't.

>>27461525
That's a thing that can happen when 2 posts occur at the same exact time.

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>>27461474
this we should get a bonus for practicing and reading.
>>27461525
>>27461504
it happens.

>>27461546
>>27461559
>>27461567

I want to know where my picture of Patrick trying to write a letter to Santa went.

>>27461595
To a very confused thread.

Rolled 13

>>27461595
You could put the name of the image in foolz and search on all boards.

>>27461643
Nope, filenames aren't swapped.

>>27461660
You can try uploading it again. The duplicate file blocker will tell you where it went last time, assuming it wasn't deleted.

Rolled 17

>>27461660
Foolz doesn't have it I think so it probably went on a NSFW board.

No I don't have anything else better to do than manually look for it.

You do a quick sketch of Nicolette's basic shape... and then tear it out of your sketchbook and toss it aside. You have a few more false starts before you're finally satisfied with the initial work, and then you continue drawing.

After a little bit under an hour, you put the finishing touches on your drawing... and it's complete! As this is your first time doing a proper sketch of an actual person, you can't say that it's GREAT... but it's not horrible!

Seeing that you're finally done, Nicolette does a few stretches that result in more horribly painful-sounding cracking noises before approaching the table that you're sitting at. Sylvie's right next to you examining the drawing, so Nicolette stands behind both of you and peers over your shoulder to get a good look.

"Hm... not quite the artistic masterpiece that I was hoping for," she says. "But it's not bad."
"Yeah, it's better than anything that I could draw..." Sylvie joins in. "...with some more practice, I bet you could be really good!"
"Heh, thanks," you say as you get up from your seat to stretch. "I've never done a portrait sketch before, so I was just kind of winging it."

"Hm," Gerhard says from the other side of the table, holding your sketchbook. "far better than I'd expect from an amateur. I see that you took Saint-Pierre's lessons to heart, good job," he says as he hands you back your sketchbook.
"...the fu- Gerhard, you seriously need to quit doing that," Nicolette says, clearly unnerved.
"I apologize if I startled you, Nicolette," Gerhard says as he bows in apology. "Is there anything that I can help you with, Reinhold?"

>how do you respond?

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>>27461793
dammit, forgot the picture.

>>27461474
Yeah, the base to not draw absolute shit was a 6, with increasing competence with higher rolls.

>>27461807
>>27461793
Ask Gerhard for more art books, then begin asking sylvie about magic.

>>27461793
Ask Sylvie if she has finished with her books.

>>27461793
"Say Gerhard, would you say it'd be a good idea for a swordsman like me to dabble a little in magic?"

>>27461793
Ask Gerhard for art books and maybe lessons
Ask sylvie if she can explain the basics of magic and if we can borrow a book.
Ask Nicolette if she wants to train since she cleared her schedule.

>>27461828
Seconding this. I suppose improving our swording can wait until someone sword-y comes around.

Rolled 5

>>27461863
This but also ask if she's willing to do this again once we get better

>>27461863
this since we still have daylight to burn

>writing

"Um... well, could I borrow an art book or two? And you seem to be kind of knowledgeable about drawing, so, um, would you mind showing me a few pointers sometime?" you ask nervously.
"Hmm. Sketching is only a hobby of mine so I'm not really sure how good a teacher I'd be, but feel free to stop by when you have the time and I'll be happy to assist you in whatever way I can," Gerhard says with a bow. "As for the books... I suppose I can lend out the one that you were reading earlier, if you hadn't already finished with it. Though I would like to remind you that you already have two books out."
"...oh yeah, I almost forgot about those," you reply.
"As long as you don't lose them, it shouldn't be a problem," Gerhard says before vanishing behind a bookcase.

"Nicolette, would you be up for some sparring?" you ask.
"Sorry, man. I still haven't eaten yet so I'm kind of starving," she replies.
"Oh, no problem then."
"Maybe another time, though!" Nicolette says as she heads towards the door. "See you later!"
"See you later!" you reply.
"Goodnight, Niolette!" Sylvie says as she waves goodbye.
>[1/?]

>>27462146
>[2/2]

Seeing that Gerhard is still wherever he went, you turn to Sylvie.

"Um... I heard from Gerhard that you took out all of the beginner magic books... would you mind letting me see one of them?" you ask.
"Eh? That!? Well- um... actually, I only took those out because you asked me about magic lessons the other day," she says, fidgeting.
"...oh," you reply, feeling kind of dumb.
"Yeah. I had Mr. Gerhard gather them up, and then I got my father to carry them home for me," she says, laughing nervously. "That's what we were doing when we ran into you in the hallway yesterday."

...wait.

So that means that her father is...

>how do you react?

>>27462231
Well there's one more reason to be on his good side.

>>27462231
welp
chuckle "I actually asked your father to train me as well"

>>27462231
see if we can find a way to combine the chance of her teaching us and her father training us.

>>27462231
you do know you painted a target on her and made her a better choice then the tomboy.

>>27462231
Oh lawd

Best father in law ever.

>>27462231
>>27462246
say this then ask her when you can schedule your training with her and her father.

>>27462231
I knew it would be Sir Vincent.
Ask her if that means she would be happy to teach us some magic basics.

>>27462338
>>27462317
these work well together.

>writing

One day nobles will impoverish whole towns in order to bid on it.
Women will flock from far and wide in the hopes of being the subject of it.
Scholars will admire it.
Students will emultate it.

A genuine Reinhold original.
The collected works will be a national treasure.

>>27462433
You.
i like you.

>>27462504
you should include it, if the quest ever ends.

"...uh, your father is Sir Vincent?" you ask, just to confirm.
"Yeah, you didn't know?" Sylvie responds matter-of-factly. "That's the main reason that I'm able to study magic and wander around the castle as I please."
"...I guess that makes sense."

Considering how huge Sir Vincent is, Sylvie must take after her mother...

"I actually wanted to ask to train with him," you say.
"Oh? You want me to ask him for you?" Sylvie replies.
"That'd be awesome, thanks!"
"Ehehe... most of the people here are kind of scared of my father, so I'm surprised that you actually -want- to be around him," Sylvie says, laughing.
"Eh? He's always been pretty nice to me," you reply.

As you talk to Sylvie, Gerhard appears next to you while carrying a large book.

"Here you go, Reinhold," he says as he places it on the table without a sound.
"Ah, thanks," you reply.
"No problem. As always, all you need to do if you need me is call," he says with a bow before walking down a row of books and vanishing once more.

>ask Sylvie for magic lessons now
>ask Sylvie for magic lessons later
>[OTHER]

>>27462571

Now, or we'll never get to it.

>>27462571
>>ask Sylvie for magic lessons now
she doesn't seem busy, plus remind her that the best way to learn is to teach if she is hesitant on how much she knows.

>>27462571
>>ask Sylvie for magic lessons now

May as well, good timing and all.

>>27462571
Ask her now

>>27462598
I forgot to add, if she asks us how we know just tell her that we had taught others how to read as a child.

>>27462571
"Would you mind teaching me something now? If you're not busy that is."

>>27462571
Seems like now's as good a time as any.

>>27462655
>>27462611
>>27462598
this seems like the best way.
"Would you mind teaching me something now? If you're not busy that is."
she says she is not confident
"oh really i know the best way to learn is to teach something to someone else"
she ask why we know
"i had a fair amount of experience in the military and as a child myself teaching others how to read"

>writing

We need to rein in our library requisitions until we at least go through what we've already borrowed.

>>27462721
Sylvie took a whole collection of books, so i doubt our 3 books is too bad.
I do have a bad feeling about over scheduling our little time.

Rolled 8

>>27462749
Should probably return the map too since we're done with it and all.

>>27462759
We have haven't we?

>>27462759
we returned it this morning thats why he said 3rd the charm,

"Uh, would you mind starting those magic lessons now?" you ask.
"Eh!? Today!? Right n-... um... I guess..." Sylvie stammers.
"If you don't want to, that's alright too. I don't want to force you or anything."
"N... no, it's fine. I just wasn't expecting to start today," she says as she takes a seat at the table and motions for you to do the same.

"So, um, how much do you know about magic?" Sylvie asks.
"Nothing, aside from that it's a thing and that it's how the castle has light at night without using candles," you reply.
"So I have to start from the beginning... okay," she says as she adjusts her glasses. "Before we start, how religious are you?"

>devout
>kind of religious
>not too religious
>don't really think about it much

>>27462777
Seeing as how we've not really brought it up at all before, we probably don't think about it much.

>>27462777
>don't really think about it much

>>27462777
>>don't really think about it much
we come from a whore house and were basically a street rat.
I doubt we believe in anything.

>>27462777
>Don't really think about it much

>>27462777
>don't really think about it much

>>27462777
If you ask me to pray some god or another deity, i am fine with it.

>>27462777
> dont really think about it much.
Is that bad? I mean, i dont want to offend accidentally.

>>27462777
>>don't really think about it much

>>27462800
Seconded. Depending on who's come into the brothel and how they acted, there's a good chance Reinhold would go so far as to say
>disillusioned with the church
(although possibly only in the privacy of his own head; it depends on how much power and hypocrisy the --

I'm assuming a lot, aren't I. What _is_ the state of religion in this setting, anyway? Mono? Poly? Weak or strong, in terms of temporal power?

>>27462777
Fuck I have to leave.
Archelon I.... I love you!

>>27462840
Uh... thank you?

>writing

>>27462800

That's not really what happens with people from poor backgrounds. They are the most devout followers: the desperate, the uneducated, those who are trying to find hope and who cling to tradition in a nasty world. The street rat from a whore house could be incredibly religious, even if he is hypocritical in following the precepts of that religion by sinning: he just feels really guilty about it afterwards.

"Don't really think about it" is a privileged position from people who live in a society where religion is not paramount anymore. We are pretty much projecting what we think a medieval city urchin might believe from our perch above the mist of ignorance and faith that permeates that kind of world.

That said, "don't really think about it too much" is a nice noncommital answer because Sylvie was even able to ask that question in this world: it's an indication that there are people who aren't religious, that it's a Thing not to be terribly religious, so it's a fine option to make in the context of the game, so I'll go with that. Fuck being religious. Fantasy gods are all assholes anyhow.

>>27462504
Ahem. Now students be on your best behavior today. Queen Marianne has graciously allowed us to examine a portrait from Master Reinhold's "mysterious girl" series. These portraits follow the early "Women holding FOOD" sketches, and precede the now famous "princess sketches".
Today you will be studying "Mysterious Girl Glaring at a Rat"

>>27462871
i was closer to thinking that he believed god abandoned him and shit like that.

>>27462897

Yeah, but people don't believe that kind of thing easily. Try to find examples of people in, say, Medieval Europe who are anti-theist in that way. It's just easier to believe that you personally have failed somehow, that you are being punished for your sins, be it original sin or karma from your previous life. It's inbuilt into hierarchial religions, a way to guilt the lower ranks into believing that they deserve what they get, that other people should be kept in the same kind of squalor as they do, and that there is hope of salvation down the line as long as they tow it.

>>27462923
the other reason could be this
>>27462839

>>27462871
I just assumed noone ever taught us about religion. Considering how often we were beaten, and the insane amount of time we spent swording it probably never really came up.

We sure are asking a lot of people lately - we should make a point to do something nice for the people who been helping us out.

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"I never really thought about religion all that much," you reply. "Why, is that important?"
"No, it's just that there are some spells that are really hard to do if you're not devout, that's all. I guess you won't be using Sanctuary without a scroll any time soon, though..." Sylvie replies.
"...oh."

"So, um..." sylvie says as she adjusts her glasses. "The basics. Okay. ...really wish I had a book to work from, though I guess that's my own fault. Um... the basis of magic is Script."
"...like fancy writing?" you ask, not sure what she's talking about.
"No, it's like... well, the easiest way is to show you," Sylvie says as she closes her eyes to concentrate. "Clergy say that it's the visual manifestation of the language of God."

Sylvie then opens her eyes and points up. Following slightly above her finger, you can see what looks kind of like glowing red writing floating in the air.

"Uh..." you rub your eyes to make sure you're seeing this right.
"This is Script," Sylvie says as it fades away. "After you 'open your mind to the universe,' all you have to do is concentrate and anything you say can make it appear. This is called 'Conceptualization.'"
"That sounds kind of complicated," you say, not quite sure what's going on.
"Most people have trouble learning how to do it, but it's really easy to do once you do it once," Sylvie says with a slight smile.

>[1/?]

>>27462974
hmm.

>>27462974
Sorry Reinhold, no levels in Cleric for you.

>>27462971
Even if you don't get taught religion, people will be religious around you. You inhale religion and learn it through osmosis, in the same way that young children learn languages very, very well. Even if you don't know about religion (which is not at all strange), you still believe in it because everyone else does.

Even if the church is corrupt, people still believe in God. To unbelieve in God you need to live in an environment that allows for heresy and originality, like the social circles of philosophers and thinkers, OR you need to live in a society where atheism or nonreligiosity is already an established thing that you can choose because other people have (this being modern society, where people have options in regards to God).

A child reared in a religious environment will become religious in the absence of open alternatives or a liberal philosophical atmosphere that encourages skepticism, thinking or empiricism. A child who is not religious is probably brought up in a non-religious environment. You don't get wolf-childs even in the slums of a city who don't speak language, and the same kind of thing goes for religion.

I'm not saying you are wrong in choosing "never thought about it", I'm saying your reasons are wrong, which is not a moral failing and not a big thing to hold against to but I just felt like nitpicking it.

>>27462923
Yeah, if Reinhold is *completely* non-religious it's probably either because of a) lack of exposure or b) exposure to hypocrisy. Given his upbringing, the former is very unlikely; the latter, on the other hand...

(Reinhold could probably still reasonably be customarily-religious, à la modern Japanese Shinto practice or very slightly stronger, in a setup where the dominant religion(s) has/have only relatively weak temporal power.)

>>27462974
... on the other hand, "never thought about it" is rather different from "never think about it". Also 'clergy' has certain >implications for the above. Hmm.

Wow jeez tonight has not gone well so far for my boy Reinhold.

Also pretending to be a pervert makes you seem like a pervert. I'm thinking no more Monique impressions.

>>27462974

"So, um... the next step! Okay," Sylvie says as she slaps her hands together. "Yeah, okay. So once you learn how to conceptualize Script, you're technically able to cast spells. What's a simple one I can use in here..." she scratches her head for a bit, and then snaps her fingers together. "That's it!"

Sylvie then closes her eyes and holds her hands out over the table.

"Dancing wisps, gather before me and light my path."

With each word she says, you can see Script slowly appearing around Sylvie's arms.

"Sparkle shine."

The script immediately vanishes, and you can see several fuzzy orbs of light float out from Sylvie's hands.

"You saw the Script appear, right? That was 'Conceptualization.' And when I said the spell name, Sparkle Shine, that's called 'Invocation.' That's pretty much the basic form of most spells," Sylvie says as the glowing orbs stabilize over the table. "You Conceptualize a spell, and then Invoke it by saying the spell's name. Then the Script disappears and the spell is cast."

>[2/?]

>>27463062

second.

we should not pay the man any more attention than he deserves, that is to say very little.

>>27463044

Really kind of depends there would be some people who didn't believe at all just by the nature of who they are. The would do the rites and the like but not believe in it. Wouldn't be common but did happen. Atheism and the likes is very old concepts.

>>27463044
On the other hand, she did ask if Reinhold was /religious/, rather than whether he was /devout/. One can believe in a deity, but still reject -- or simply fail to belong to -- any church.

(That may be splitting hairs too finely, though.)

>>27463093
Such people generally give things more thought, not less, than the average churchgoer.

>>27463081
Hmm. I wonder if you can have two spells Conceptualized at the same time, then Invoke them either separately or together.

>>27463081
So you can tell someone is casting a spell by the Script. Good to know.

>>27463044
Guys.
> whorehouse
Any clergy who showed up probably were not there to preach.
And the women who were talking about god?
They were the same women beating us until we passed out.

Now reinhold, you just remembah that god... well god is peachy keen! Now im gonna 'it you with this pan till ya pee a bit cause yer too loud.

>>27463081
>[3/3]

"People who get really good with a certain spell can Conceptualize just by thinking the spell, and then the only thing they have to say is the spell name in order to Invoke it. I wish I could do that, but I'm just a beginner... Sir Gregory can do it with pretty much all of the spells he knows, but he doesn't because he likes to be, um... theatrical," Sylvie says, blushing slightly.
"Yeah, that sounds like him," you reply.
"He told me that it was something about making his enemies fear what's coming... but anyways, that's the basic form. Once you know that, you can cast most spells."

"Most spells? There's ones that don't work like how you just said?" you ask.
"Um, yeah. Conceptualization works based on thought, Script doesn't work by direct words. That's why you have stuff like the Church's spells that don't work unless you're devout and have the same basic mode of thought as they do. Sanctuary's the big one that most people can't cast at all unless they're really strong believers."
"So that's why you asked me if I was religious."
"Yeah, I thought it'd be cool if you could cast Sanctuary on your own since you're a bodyguard, but I guess that's no good," Sylvie says, laughing a bit. "So, um... did you catch all of that?"

>no (specify what you want to be elaborated)
>yes, keep going

>>27463194
>>yes, keep going

>>27463194
Progress the tutorial I guess.

>>27463194
yeah.

>>27463194

So the most important thing is to learn the "Script", right?

Is the "Script" the same for everyone, or is it something everyone has their own way of "writing"?

>>27463214
i second this.

>>27463177

If people stopped believing in God because the church and its priests were corrupt, why was there ever religion?

The hypocrisy of the clergy is not a deal-breaker, as long as everyone, everyone believes in God. And everyone does: they probably think God will punish the clergy when whatever time of reckoning comes along (be it purgatory, hell or the pit stop before your next reincarnation or whatever).

Corrupt clergy don't result in atheists storming the barricades: corrupt clergy result in heretics, schismatics, protestants and True Believers storming the barricades, or maybe the rise of other religions or messianic cults or whatever, but not, or at least very, very rarely, atheistic cults. The French Revolution is the closest one, and that was in a society where the upper crust was going through a the starts of an atheistic phase. And after the revolution, things pretty much returned to status quo in regards to Faith in God (similarly in Russia), like a weed that is really hard to eradicate.

Religion gets stronger the more you oppress it (if it doesn't actually die because everyone is wiped out, though). This is inbaked into Christianity in a big way, for example: Christians have a really big thing about being victims, even when they're the rulers of the world. Religion thrives in desperation and in times when you need hop... and when you're a street urchin in a whorehouse, no one loves you... except God.

>>27463177
>They were the same women beating us until we passed out.
1) Your vision of Reinhold's childhood is a lot worse than mine.
2) Even if you're right about it -- well, it's a terrible thing to say, but religion does actually get passed on that way.
3) Read the votes. Nobody wants Reinhold to be religious; we just don't agree on why he wouldn't be.

>>27463194
- Is it possible to Conceptualize two spells, one after the other, and only then Invoke them?
- Does the Invocation have to be done in <name of the language Reinhold speaks>? What do casters from Takamura's country do, if they want to cast Sparkle Shine? (Would Reinhold know to ask this question?)

>>27463214
Script is universal, though every person has differences in the exact Script they end up conceptualizing, which manifests in slight differences in spells.

It's impossible to translate though, and people can't even figure out how to separate individual characters out. It's pretty much magic gibberish writing to most people.

>writing

>>27463194
> yes continue please

Questions
Is speech necessary or can other forms of communication work?
Dance, drawing, etc.
Is the church the ONLY group with specialized magic abilities?
She mentioned magical capacity earlier whats that?

>>27463279
>It's impossible to translate though, and people can't even figure out how to separate individual characters out. It's pretty much magic gibberish writing to most people.
So in other words, you're not prepared to let us invent spells?

>>27463299

It sounds like it's more like discovering spells.

>>27463294

She said it depends on "Way of thinking"

So depending on what tenets of local church are, we could become "effectively religious" if we follow them even without aligning with it - if things like Sacrifice, Protection of Innocents or Duty are a thing, maybe.

I'm imagining it as being "tsundere for God".

>>27463279
>>27463299
>>27463327


Yeah, if it's untranslatable, how do wizards know what a spell does? They must have at least a vague idea of what those things mean.

Unless it works in a different way and "Script" is just ways of drawing magical energy in, while the wizard does the forming part in his own mind.

>>27463346
I'd say develop a new type of magic based purely on willpower, as it should be.

Anti-theism ahoy!

>>27463375

Nietzsche pls.

That would go against the very concept of our position - being a stalwart protector for the vulnerable flower that is our princess.

"So, um... spells that work based on a specific mode of thought are called Mantra. Everything else is called Rote. Mantra spells are mostly from the Church, though there are individual people like Mr. Niklaus who end up having all the spells they make as Mantra."

"Huh. So, do you have to cast in a specific language?" you ask, remembering Takamura.
"No, it works on thought. Spells in different languages are obviously different, but it's all still the same basic form."

"Oh yeah, another question," you say. "Can you conceptualize two spells and then invoke them after both are done?"
"Yeah, but it's really hard to do. Even harder than maintaining multiple active spells," Sylvie replies.

Sylvie then claps her hands together, seemingly pleased with her explanation.

"So, um, that's the basics! You conceptualize Script, and then Invoke it by saying the spell's name. Now, um... oh yeah! Capacity!" Sylvie says, snapping her fingers.
"I remember you saying that you had like five times more capacity than most people," you reply.
"Um, yeah. Every spell uses up its own specific amount of magical energy, and when you're out you can't use magic at all until you've slept for a while. I think it's like 80% of your maximum that you recharge from a full night's rest."
"That sounds kind of rough."
"Yeah, but you can increase your capacity by using it up," Sylvie says. "Sir Gregory said that it works like a muscle, it builds up the more you work it. That's why even though I have a high base to start out with, his maximum capacity's a lot higher than mine."

>[1/?]

>>27463367

It could be like an hash function that gives you something that can't be decyphered. We just see the "script" image as a kind of identifier, while the shapes of the images result in completely different results because there is no or a very complicated relationship between the spells and the images. They could even just be indexes pointing towards spells like a quick dial number to God.

Sidenote, makes me wonder if there is or are real gods, or if it's just magic as science again. Well, we'll probably not find out, so whatever.

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So at least from a visual standpoint (magic floaty gibberish words + funny magic poem) this sounds a lot like magic from Tales of Vesperia.

And now that that thought has occurred to me, Sylvie will forever be a slightly older Rita in my mind. Not sure if ok with this...

Sylvie hurry up and learn Over Limit so you can win combat forever

>>27463390
Nothing says stalward protector like being able to do it with your own strength !

>>27463391
just for you to know, i love your threads.

>>27463279
Oh god, this is postapocalyptic fantasy isn't it. Or we're in a Scrapped Princess scenario where this is actually a simulation of some kind.

>>27463416

Nothing says stalward protector like being able to get an army at your side and directing it.

Nothing says stalward protector like calling to God to strike your enemies down.

Nothing says stalward protector like locking up your princess in a tower and putting a thousand traps in the staircase.

>>27463391

>new evening chore GET: magick practice

What's special about mr. Niklaus that he can cast everything as Mantra? Does that mean he can... uh... switch his religiousness at will?

>>27463433
>mentioning 'princess' and 'trap' in the same sentence
oh boy here we go

>>27463433
Bah, using the strength of others, Weak!

>>27463443
Well thousands of traps in the stairway would certainly distract any potential kidnappers...

>>27463440
He's a total fucking nutter with an entirely different mode of thinking from most people. So every spell he makes on his on is in Mantra form.

>>27463446

>King and Princess is using our strength to protect the Princess
>Therefore they are weak
>The strong thing to do would be overthrow the King and usurp the throne

>>27463446

Are you calling your liege weak?

>>27463465
That's not a bad idea...

>>27463433
Nothing says stalward protector like the word stalwart.
Oh and defending your charge against a horde of half civilised vampire barbarians riding doom-wyverns.

>>27463474

Yes, it is.

>>27463410
Yeaaaaaaaah I'm getting that vibe from the description too, so we really need to make sure not to piss Sylvie off or else Meteor Storm Meteor Storm Meteor Storm Meteor Storm Meteor Storm Meteor Storm Meteor Storm Meteor Storm ANCIENT CATACLYSM

>>27463474
Yeah because it's not like most of the named people in the quest could wipe the floor with us or anything...

>>27463490
Do you not want to be able to protect the princess to the best of your abilities?

>[2/2]

"...so, assuming that I can even cast a spell, it's possible for me to rise my capacity to be as high as yours?" you ask.
"Yup! Though I make a point to cast spells every night until I'm at about 20%, so I very much doubt that you'll ever pass me," Sylvie says, sticking her tongue out at you.

"Hm..." Sylvie scratches her head, trying to think of something. "I think that's it for the basics!"
"Wait, that's all?" you ask.
"Yeah, I'll get to the harder stuff later. Now the final part of today's lesson is for you to try and 'open your mind to the universe.'"
"...I don't really get what you mean."
"Nobody gets it at first," Sylvie says, a smile on her face. "An easy way to put it is that you need to meditate until you finally 'get it.'"
"Uh... meditate?"
"Yeah. You have to meditate until your mind opens to the cosmos and you can Conceptualize. So come on," Sylvie says as she pulls you up from your seat and has you sit on the floor by the window.

"Alright, close your eyes and clear your thoughts..."

>roll 1d20

Rolled 16

>>27463505

Rolled 2

>>27463505

Rolled 10

>>27463505
MAGIC!

Rolled 5

>>27463505

Cosmos, listen to me, and I shall listen to you.

Rolled 19

>>27463505
Rooting for that 20.

Rolled 15

>>27463505
nat 20

>>27463423
Heh, thanks.
Hooray for finally typing out an explanation for this system that's existed in my head for liek ten years!

>>27463398
That's pretty much the basic idea, yeah.

>>27463463
Sooo would it be possible to have a sort of script "conversation"?
Using script not as a spell but as an evolving state of being interacting with yourself. Conceptualize but not invoke.
Allow the script to cover you and infuse you. Essential ly invoking the power gathered through your actions and belief in those actions.
.... if that makes any sense.
Sort of like a passive scriptural aura instead of a spell.

>>27463505
please tell me you do best of 5 Archelon.

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>>27463521

Go go google image search: mediation + fuck this shit

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>>27463536

So people just have to empirically test out different spells to see what happens?

Empiricism ho!

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>>27463513
we buddha nao.

>>27463505
I suggest every night before we go to sleep we drain everything to 100% and keep doing it till we reach our limit.

>>27463585

>100 %
>Not maintaining a safety reserve for case of night disturbances
It's not like night was not often employed to cover nefarious plots...

>>27463541
Or rather like an adept in shadowrun.
You channel all that magical potential into yourself.

>>27463605
you do know we won't probably delve that deep into this other than enchanting our shit right.

You follow Sylvie's instructions and try to clear your mind... and it's EXTREMELY hard. Your mind keeps drifting to thoughts of Princess Marianne yelling at you... or swords... or pancakes... but after a while, it starts to work. Your mind clears of all thoughts and you are completely aware of your surroundings...

And suddenly, you are aware...

... that your legs are starting to fall asleep.

"Gaah!" you shout as you do your best to stand back up, using the windowsill as support.
"Aw, and I thought you were getting close, too..." Sylvie says, pouting.
"Sorry, but my legs..." you say, trying to shake the awful feeling out of them.
"Don't worry about it. Like I said, most people have trouble with doing it the first time. Just keep it up, and you'll get it eventually!" Sylvie looks at you, a wide smile on her face. "It's getting late though, so I guess I'll end the lesson here," she says as she helps you regain your balance.
"Yeah, thanks," you reply, finally able to stand properly again.
"You can keep on trying on your own time, though. Just tell me if you get it when I'm not around."
"Will do," you say with a salute.

With that, the two of you say your goodbyes and go in opposite directions.

>what will you do now?

Rolled 9

>>27463614

Reinhold the Renaissance Man

Duelist!

Artist!

Comedian!

Gentleman!

Wizard!

Architect!

It was not that long ago that a person could know all that it was to know in all the sciences of mankind.

>>27463556
Yup. Spell creation is basically:

silly poem -> what it do -> change to more different cilly poem -> what it do now -> repeat as directed.

Though there are people who can create new spells as easily as we can form sentences.

>>27463644
I thought I had it with that 19. Curses.

>Return to room, read our books out of guilt

>>27463614

Is that a reason why you would want to be completely drained in case of a contingency?

I'd say leave at least 20 % like Sylvie. It's not like we had a chance of catching up to or indeed even keeping up with her - much like she would not best us at swordmanship.

At least without things like Tenser's transformation, one of my favorite spells in neverwinter nights... the other one being Evard's Black Tentacles

Rolled 19

>>27463644
>... that your legs are starting to fall asleep.

We were so close!
>>27463521
So close!!

Phenomenal cosmic powers at our fingertips!

It is time to go and beat shit up in the training grounds.

Let's train fighting against two opponents.

Maybe those cravens will give us the chance to do so THEN.

>>27463644
go to the room and read up on the books and then try to meditate again.

>>27463644
Have we had dinner? If not lets grab some food

>>27463679
we ate with the king.

I can't get the thought of every spell Reinhold casts, somehow, taking the form of a sword out of my head.

>a fireball
Looks like a giant ball of tightly bunched blades that launches what appears to be swords of pure fire in all directions at detonation.
>a shield
Obviously a large, transparent sword appears in the attack's path.
>healing
Softly glowing sword-light sinking into the wound as it heals the damage
>generic light
Sword-torch

>>27463644
Work out, its been a while I think.

>>27463646

>Duelist
A job
>Artist
A hobby
>Comedian
our wit is not all that sharp.
>Gentleman
nnnnnot really
>Wizard
not even close yet
>Architect
wat

That being said, I'd say we've spread out enough and time constraints are stringent enough as it is.

>>27463614
Three words.

Short range teleport.

>>27463672

fuck i need to stop rolling out the good ones.

>>27463699

Wat yourself.

Also architect because we started on that dark path when we started getting interested in defensiveness and copying that map.

>>27463662
>Tenser's transformation
that would be nice

>writing

Hey guys.
Normal swords arent sharpened to razor-esque sharpness because the blade would chip.
But what about a sword with a Sturdiness spell focused only on its cutting edge?
Just a thought.

>>27463756
Or we could just cast Sharpness. Or Force Edge. Or Fireball.

>>27463771
I'd rather cast fist.

It's getting late, so you decide to head to your room for the night. As you enter, you toss your jacket on a nearby chair before heading to your desk. You feel kind of bad about still not having read those books you got from Gerhard, so you decide that now's as good a time as any to get to it.

>A history of the kingdom of Granache
>A gentleman's guide to sensitive ladies

>>27463779
>A gentleman's guide to sensitive ladies
Eight days a week, brother.

>>27463771

>Fireball

That's probably one of the more useless spells for a bodyguard to have.

Unless we also learned to grant fire immunity to Princess (and ourselves)

>>27463779
>>A gentleman's guide to sensitive ladies
this works.

>>27463779
>A history of the kingdom of Granache

>>27463784
Its decent for area-denial if we're running from something. Few things say "stop chasing us" like lighting the hallway on fire.

>>27463779
>A gentleman's guide to sensitive ladies

Seems the most useful for our job right now.

>>27463779
>>A gentleman's guide to sensitive ladies
we need to be smoother. gonna score us some marconetti(?) maids in three weeks.

>>27463783
you lost me on the reference.

>>27463779
>a gentleman's guide

>>27463800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs5qsk0pc6Y

>>27463779

If we read the Gentleman's guide, will we get oblique "you know this is counter to etiquette to" hints or just better at rolling in social situations? that is, will the world bend to our aura of gentlemanliness no matter what we do?

>>27463800
I ain't got nothing but love girl!

>>27463815
I thought we checked it out to help learn to deal with the princess. So it would probably help with that.

>>27463794

I'm sure there are better suited spells for this that carry less harm to possible innocent bystanders, especially if we can't fine-tune shape and radius of the blast.

Like "Bone Wall", "Field of Force" or "Sleep Cloud"

>writing

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>>27463831

or
>Conjure a cogwheel box

You sit down at your desk and pick up "A gentleman's guide to sensitive ladies," figuring that it might be useful in helping you better deal with the Princess. It seems to be less a guide for bachelors and more a guide for the fathers of teenaged daughters, and a lot of the advice in it seems kind of counterintuitive. "Keep asking her what's wrong, even if she tells you that everything is alright?" What? Wouldn't that just make her mad at you?

But even though a lot of it makes very little sense initially, you start to grasp the overall logic in its advice... mostly seeming to be that "girls are insane." Finishing off the book, you place it on your desk and ponder what to do next.

>meditation
>work out

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>Your skill have increased. You need to rest and contemplate on what you have learned.

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>>meditation
we have to get this out of the way.