Rolled 95

>>27324778
>Military Move
fortify the shit out of our base
>Basic 1
Finish up Mother Spider. Maybe make some technical changes as >>27323605 (You)
>Basic 2
Send that measley "support force" to the Ghouls to both keep eyes and maybe earn some support ourself. Also make sure the Marauder com box is in working order
>Production
4 SST's close quarters variety
>extra
Pray to whatever Gods the Memor believe in.

Rolled 27

>>27324778

Okay, so in light of the discovery that we have a massive force of advanced fleshbeasts that can tear through our best forces with ease heading towards us from underground in this turn (possibly the next), and that any possibility of retreat/reinforcement is cut off due to Monster Mayhem initiating this turn (maybe next)...

I have no fucking clue how we survive this.

>>27324808
This, using the 100 that was rolled by smar/tg/uy

Well, now that one of the rules may have been thrown out, I'm not entirely sure how many of them apply or if any of them have any credibility anymore.

Rolled 73

>>27324778
Lair Ede Stat Info
>>>>>>Population:(current cap 25000 12500 of which converted to Lair status)
Memor 1800
Strong Arm 400
Mulic 400
Ortor 275
Tectus 100
Ghouls 270
Glowers 35
>>>>>>Food: low
>>>>>>Water: good
>>>>>>Morale: good
>>>>>>Armaments level: good
>>>>>>reputation level: NIGHTMARE INCARNATE
>>>>>>Infrastructure: Fast Breeder Reactor(online) Biofuel Emergency Generators. Biofuel purifier. Biofuel Production Facility+. Barracks. Private Quarters. Storage labs(glowing flowers, finger biter fish, experimental fluids). Medbay. Laboratory. Workshop. Armory. biology splicing chamber. biotech research labs. biostorage facility. Psionic research department. A.I. Core. chemical warehouse. Secure warehouse. Holding cells. Holding tanks. Offices. Data Storage. Super Computers. Bionics lab. Cloning facility(occupied). Nanite bed(busted). Broodnest. Lovenest+.
>>>>>>Defenses: Reinforced Buildings. Reinforced Gate. sand bags. Two bunkers. walled compound. sensor tower, Death Trap. Defense systems Online
>>>>>>vehicles:1 Digga Drilla. 0 bandit spider tanks(biofuel) 4 Paramilitary spider tank(runs on biofuel). 6 plasma thrower spider tank(biofuel). 6 laser battery spider tank(biofuel). 3 transports crawlers(biofuel). 9 siege mk1.2 tanks. 2 'metal rain' artillery. 5 swamp walkers. 300 technical. 1 booty tap trap layer. 7 Piercing Demon(BIG holes small target) 9 Plasma Baby(YOU SAID RADIATION IS BAD FOR YOU) 7 BOOM-town( you said WHAT) 9 Bloody Bandit(Extra bloody and BEATTA) 7 Paramilitary Supreme(I can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME I am) 0 doom buggies. 1 bombardier (if you thought boomtown had boom you don’t know BOOM) 0 Forsaken Bandit (When solo go FORSAKEN)

>>>>>>Power: Fast breeder reactor( 5 years), emergency biofuel generators, 0 mini reactors(cannot construct Behemoth class vehicles)
>>>>>>materials: concrete, plastic, acid flesh and rock, Industrial chemicals, medical supplies. rusted metal.

>>27324834
Actually let's have the Prophet murder Clora's sister with his mind out of pure rage with that 100

Rolled 76

>>27324847
>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, Assault Rifles, Grenades, rifles, Traitorous Battle Rifles limited, sniper rifles, smg, shotguns, flame thrower, mono knives, stun batons, spears, elemental spewers limited (flame acid, electric, plasma mk1). Elemental Variants/ammo. heavy weaponry basic.
>>>>>>armor: Environmental protection body armor. mk 2 power armor(limited 20 suits),125 Marauder plate. Chamleze body armor(100 suits).
>>>>>>Technology: Super Advanced biolabs, Complex A.I. flower research(complete), spider tank conversion, Hydra, Super Spider Tanks(Markus edition), 5 mini reactors(limited), serum mutant. Mutagen Serum.
>>>>>>psionics: Hivemind, Mind blank, Nexus ME, Overmind, Hive to Hive, No Limits. Wrath. Psionic Stealth.
>>>>>>communications: hivemind, short range radio, Overmind
>>>>>>Mutations: Base, Hivemind. Toughness.
Military is

Memor 1200
Strong arm 300
Mulic 300
ortor 200
Tectus 50
Ghouls 250
Glowers 30

Fleshbeast 3600
Borgs 1500
Robots 540
Glows Crew Raiders Elite 1500
Bad Ass Bandits 1000

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>>27324832
We are fighting in our own base.
As they say "you shall sink in it".

We'll only have a chance if we can maintain structural integrity. There are no Marauder bombings that will help us. The Ghouls are away. All we can pray for is that our spider's will help pull us through.

I specifically was a proponent of their creation after the revelation of things in the tunnels being difficult.

Spiders excell in tunnel combat, and like all of richards creation, they grow on the cropses of enemies.

Rolled 93

>>27324778

Hey guys, I just thought of something.

In light of the rumbling beneath our base, and the fact the She Who Hungers wants Cloara alive, it seems almost certain that we'll be attacked from INSIDE our base.

Hey guys, guess what?

>Our base is designed to keep things from getting out.

>Muahahahahaha!

I wondered when that'd come into play as a good thing.

Rolled 60

>>27324874
Well then, spiders all the way

Rolled 14

>>27324874
Yes Richard is quite the ingenious war criminal Mad scientist we know.

>>27324896
Its Clora'Zel.

>>27324896
Finally someone realizes have a base designed to keep things in not a bad thing.

>>27324869
wont happen 100 wasn't linked to an action otherwise I would of taken it.

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Rolled 80

>>27324896
We have that as a blessing too.

>>27324874
If you really planned out those spiders because you saw a danger in the tunnels, then I applaud you anon

Rolled 6

>>27324915
Dam, no mind murder today

Any chance we can turn on those LAST STAND protocols again? Over ride so as to not attack our forces?

Rolled 13

>>27324808
Fortifications are underway.

1 resource consumed.

Mother spider research completed. self destruct/suicide bomb upgrade partially complete.

SST's constructed
beware SSTs can't fight in the underground quarters due to the hallway size. Unless you plan to take a Digga Drilla and completely wreck everything.

Rolled 15

>>27324964
>>>>A. Scavenge for food.
>>>>B. Try to improve the base
>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.
>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.
>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.
>>>>H. Your choice

11 resource points.

>>27324964
Question. These spiders are mechanical right?
Any chance we can start chruning out these guys in the factories instead?
Maybe recycle some fleshbeasts into them?

Rolled 54

>>27324870
Let's use Wrath on Clora's sister

And let's question Clora's about it fucking NOW

Rolled 66

>>27324976
>Military
>Basic 1
Research the Webby. We will choke them with webs
>Basic 2
(someone think of something)
>Production
If can produce more Spider Mothers. If not, 25 of the ST's (can they fit in the tunels?) of again, the close quarters variety

Rolled 63

>>27324995
Dam, gotta sleep. All I have to say is PREPARE

Rolled 8

>>27324896
We need to come up with a plan to take advantage of this.

Oooh.

How about we flood the base with spiders, then withdraw all our forces to the outer perimeter?

By the way, She Who Hungers is worth her salt. We're not going to be only attacked from the inside. We'll likely get attacked from without first.

So maybe we more like put the spiders in secret areas with a release trigger ready to go when the fleshbeasts breakin.

Also, let's tell Clora to keep all her fleshbeasts inside the base for "protection reasons". Also, she can't know about the spiders and should be kept abreast of as little as possible about our military plans (why was she so reluctant to let us examine her psychically at the start of Part 1 anyway?). If she's stuck in there with her beasts and she's not a traitor, well those guys are as good at CQC as any strongarm. If she's stuck in there with her beasts and she IS a traitor (more likely) she gets eaten by spiders with the rest.

So let's put our stock into getting spiders ready, and let's get the Prophet of Fate prepared to do tremendous battle. He'll have to be able to break the two broodmothers' control on everything/combat their considerable psychic abilities without any other heroes to help.

Let's do it.

Rolled 35

>>27324995
Before we can think of using wrath, we must first find her location. Secondly, we don't even know her own psionic abilities. She's fooled our own hivemind.

>>27325011
Basic 2
Have Prophet and the Mulim research psionic cleansing/shielding. Let us cut off any psionic ties she may be having on us.

Rolled 43

>>27324981
Negative they are a biotech/bionic crime against nature.

Factory can only churn out purely mechanical things.

Possible.

>>27324995
She doesn't know anything. She did know about an eccentric cousin of hers though. Not quite sure how their supposed to be related either...

Rolled 29

>>27325011
>>27325027
>Military
Tell all our friends and foes, the Marauders, the Ghouls, even the bandits if they shall speak, that a great danger is upon us. A danger far greater than anything we or they have ever faced. If we die, they are next.

Rolled 25

>>27325026
She already knows about the spiders in fact she helped create them.

Rolled 36

>>27325011
SSTs can't fit in the tunnels. In some/most places however STs can.

Rolled 33

>>27325038
Well she asked Alexis where her "precious sister brood-kin" was.

>>27325047
Yes, but she doesn't have to know about us putting the spiders in the airvents unless she has to know. If you get what I'm saying.

Rolled 87

>>27325069
So we build ST close quarters combat

Rolled 38

>>27325039

I like this idea, but it should definitely be a "basic" action, not military.

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>>27325069
Then build 25 ST's. Of the kind meant to chew things up close in short order.

Also, we should not forget the surface defense.

I have a proposal. 2 Rings of defense, with exit strategies and scorched earth tactics to be used in case one line falls.

Next, two sepearate teams will leave the sides of our base, to facilitate an emergency flanking maneuver or detect any swamp creatures trying to make their own flank attacks. They can also provide artillery support.

>>27325085
Our basic actions are filled with
Basic 1
Research the wbe spider. To choke the tunnels and slow down enemy movement.
Basic 2
Research psionic cleansing/shielding. To see if we can't cut off She Who Thirsts from the hivemind

Rolled 88

>>27325099

She Who Hungers*

Don't even. It's based off the first thread, where the Prophet of Fate reached out his awareness, then touched on a massive one that was filled with only an all-consuming hunger. He barely managed to survive the contact, and it likely tipped She Who Hungers off to our existence in the first place.

>>27325114
So we're going to have to fight with her grubby claws in our heads? Watching through our eyes and ears.

Rolled 21

>>27325122

I'm not sure if the possible military benefits of having Marcus/Ghouls/Dreamers/etc. coming to our aid (maybe). Outweighs the benefits of possibly shunting She Who Hungers out of our heads.

Rolled 53

>>27324841
We'll be having a major reassesment of the rules after this.
Assuming we make it, after this.

Rolled 77

>>27325077
Month 58

1 turn until monster mayhem begins.

>>27325077
"I know not of her brood kin."


An envoy was sent out to all nearby factions. Ghouls laughed and said their used to this sort of thing after all why do you think we're digging in so much?
Marauders said we were on our own as they have now deemed that we do not share the Former Master's glory. Strange bandits are absent for some reason. The only thing we founded was their now insanely fortified yet seemingly empty areas.

Research on web spiders completed.


1 spider mother constructed.

25 STs constructed

15 plasma throwers
10 bandits.

Rolled 52

>>27325135
We don't even know if anyone will come to our aid. Or if we can push her out.
It's going to be absolutely difficult to fight an enemy who knows your every move because they can hear your every thought.

Rolled 59

>>27325151
Month 59

>>>>A. Scavenge for food.
>>>>B. Try to improve the base
>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.
>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.
>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.
>>>>H. Your choice

8 resource points.

ALERT ALERT Monster Mayhem has now commenced. The advanced fleshbeasts have however no where to be seen...

Warlord duel fist is acting strangely hanging around the Robots and A.I.

Do you wish to engage heroic sacrifice

Rolled 48

>>27325151
1? Just one mother . .

>. The only thing we founded was their now insanely fortified yet seemingly empty areas.
Any chance for an evac to there.

>Military
Enact outer perimiter plan >>27325093. Retreatable lines of defense, as well as spreading our Tectus throughout the forrest
>Basic 1
Start sending some fixers and webby down there to multiply and breed and web and assimilate anything and everything
>Basic 2
Set up our ST"s into chokepoints within the tunnels
>Production
25 more close quarters ST's

In addition, the Prophet is to be relocated to his usual secure area (assuming he won't abandon us again)

Rolled 61

>>27325174
It seems user we got quite unlucky as the Monster Mayhem commenced sooner then expected.

Rolled 85

>>27325151

Hmm. I wish we could move into one of those.

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Rolled 63

>>27325174
>>27325174
Anything to buy us some time. Warboss Dual Fists, your name shall never be forgotten.

You were the biggest, baddest, greenest, Memorkiest of them all.

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Rolled 50

>>27325183
Breed you spiders! Breed!
Any chance we can get the Broodmother's aura to help the spider mother breed? She can work on mechanicals.

Rolled 14

>>27325183

Well here we go I suppose.

>>27325174
We need to erect statues of fallen heroes at some point. Ramona first.

Rolled 100

>>27325213
Need more then one vote to sacrifice....

Rolled 46

>>27325247
uh well fuck. I suppose its gonna be one HELL of a sacrifice...then. Just like Ramona I suppose...shit.

>>27325247
Hopefully a spider bonus too.

Rolled 24

>>27325256

Oh, and what if we get DUAL 100S AGAIN??!!!

Rolled 50

>>27325183
Monsters are too thick our forces cannot even break out of our outer-perimeter. Only reason defenses are holding is due to them being entirely online.

Spiders have been dispatched into the tunnels.

ST's have been deployed.

15 plasma throwers
10 bandits have been constructed.

>>27325276
I suppose this is a bad time to ask for an actual map of the base, heh

Rolled 90

>>27325266
Heroic + 100. that is if its voted for. But remember its gonna cost you a hero.

Rolled 36

>>27325276
Month 60

>>>>A. Scavenge for food.
>>>>B. Try to improve the base
>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.
>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.
>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.
>>>>H. Your choice

6 resource points.

ALERT ALERT Monster Mayhem has now commenced. The advanced fleshbeasts have however no where to be seen...

Warlord duel fist is acting strangely hanging around the Robots and A.I.

Do you wish to engage heroic sacrifice


>>27325286
There is not a chance in hell your gonna get me to map out all those fucking tunnels or rooms anon. For the sake of this A.I. Remaining sanity bytes.

>>27325291
A hero who has served us well.
A hero who has been with us near the beggining.
A hero who's unswavering loyalty will be sorely missed.
A hero who will buy time for his people to live, even if it is but a day.
A hero who shall never be forgotten.

It's not like we should put a good 100 to waste. Unless we can put it to something else can we?

Rolled 67

>>27325291

Yes. Better to sacrifice a hero than to lose the game. And if we sacrifice him and all die anyway it's a moot point all the same.

Really quick though, let's ask him how he got his arm.

Rolled 8

>>27325303
>Military
Continue to hold the line, not a single step backwards!
>Basic 1
Have richard further develop his doomsday virus. Make it worthy of the name doomsday, using all our biofacilities mighta t our disposal. If we're going down, we're taking out everything with us!
>Basic 2
Broodmother continue to assist mother spider in multiplication. Sacrifice fleshbeasts if you must we MUST make more spiders
>Production
We will save the resources for more spider research

Rolled 39

>>27325314
You can

Rolled 100

>>27325350

No, the doomsday virus isn't worth anything against the enemies we would need to use it against.

Rolled 85

>>27325350
Also rollin

Rolled 4

>>27325358
Fuck dammit. Why didn't I suggest something else?

Rolled 20

>>27325351
Towards a spider breakthrough? Or some military invervention? Will it be as effective as a sacrfice?
If the answer to two of these is yes, then go for it.

>>27325358
That 100 could've gone to better us anon.

Rolled 45

WARNING WARNING OUR PERIMETER HAS BEEN BREACHED IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. MONSTERS ARE POURING IN.


ALERT Spider tank choke points are being overwhelmed. Somehow the beasts are burrowed around completely compromising said positions. They are now heading towards our base. Spiders luckily have bought us some time.

ALERT our base has been penetrated in several locations. Revealing burrowed tunnels that are spewing hostiles throughout our base. Our defenses are doing the best to hold of the tides until reinforcements can arrive.

ALERT our forces are struggling to hold the line against the monsters outside.

ALERT Outside DEFENSES are exploding everywhere. Revealing burrows that are spewing forth hostiles to flank our outside forces.

User we are being attacked at top, below, and even around orders?

Rolled 98

>>27325375
It can go only to what you can do. It will be accomplished+crit bonus.

>>27325358
Ah what a waste.


By the way I had hinted at this all this stuff. And you could of reasoned it out a bit even.

Rolled 41

>>27325376

You are the Memor Macbeth, as your final breath leaves your lungs you crystallize the thoughts of the moment of your entire species into a single phrase.

"Yet I will try the last!"

Rolled 49

Confirm Heroic Sacrifice of Warlord Duel Fist?

Rolled 1

>>27325376
>Military
Fall back to better defensive positions. Make every inch of ground worth a gallon of blood. Every step back is a shot to the enemy. Do not die until you have killed 10 of them
>Basic 1
Richard research the jumpers
>Basic 2
Broodmother continues to help the mother birth more spiders
>Production
Save, it's likely we're losing the factories soon anyway

If you can, put that original 100 into spider proliferation.

Rolled 64

>>27325406
>It can go only to what you can do. It will be accomplished+crit bonus
>>27325417
Then make it cancel out this terrible damned roll!

FUCK

Rolled 44

>>27325417
oh gawd no...welp. Writan.

>>27325417
Gentlmen, it has been a privilege playing with you.

Rolled 85

>>27325406

Let me attest, your hints are very gentle and if you don't have the whole context of having been through the entire quest, you can't get the significance of them.

It's not a bad thing, I like it but I can't reasonably expect everyone to read through 10 long quest threads.

Rolled 94

>>27325415
No confirm counter 100 to the 1 >>27325417

Rolled 18

>>27325415
Confirm.

Rolled 79

>>27325425
>>27325417
>>27325431
There is always heroic sacrifice user.

>>27325442
That is why I break them up. Some appear throughout while others only show up in a couple threads.

>>27325448
That will only cancel the 1 and not allow any other benefit.

Rolled 10

>>27325462
What good is a heroic sacrifice if the costs kill us?

Ah well, better to go out in glory than with a whimper. DUALFIST! YOUR TIME TO SHINE IS NOW

>>27325462
Sacrifice. Never let it be said we didn't go down fighting.

>>27325462
Confirmed sacrifice. We were dead men anyway.

Rolled 45

>>27325448
And confirm counter. Use this guys roll on the sacrifice.

Rolled 80

>>27325417
Our military forces Fell back into to better defensive positions...only to discovered that the enemy was lying in wait. Our forces are being slaughtered user. As they literally fell right into the enemies lap.

Richards research in Jumper spider...we don't know what happened user. One minute he was with us the next the entire labs went into lockdown. I can access it to see whats going on thanks to security breaches. Only thing I can say user its BAD.

Broodmother tried to asists the Spider mother only for it to...explode for some reason. Clora'zel is wounded thanks to it...and badly.

Our factory has been overwhelmed and destroyed. Even worse for some reason the self destruct protocols didn't occur.

>>27325480
>>27325490
>>27325498
Heroic Sacrifice confirmed. + 100 for increased EPIC effect.

The Fall of Warlord Duel Fist will commence shortly. Best hang on to your butts cause this is gonna be awesome. As unlike the other hero Warlord Duel Fist could of lived this GREATLY enhances the effect.

Rolled 88

>>27325524
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EptSSXNHIfg for the final stand of Warlord Duel Fist.

Rolled 92

>>27325524
No one, not even you, will remember if we were just bad men or evil. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that today, one stood against many. That's what's important.

By all that pleases you, dice gods; so grant us this one request. Grant us revenge! And if you do not listen, then to hell with you!

Rolled 69

>>27325524
You are Warlord Duel Fist. Today is the day you die. For some reason you can just know. Looking at the maps it was clear your forces were getting annihilated. Only thing that seemed to be holding them off was the automated defenses.

...EDE I gotta a favor to ask.

Yes Warlord?

When you see EVE apologize for me. She really wanted to see you by the way.

What?

Warlord Duel Fist raises his bionic arm. "How do you think I got this? Just do me one favor deploying ALL expendable forces with me and have your bots work with the automated defenses for maximum effect. Meanwhile have everyone else retreat to protect the civilians."

Done...however I cannot contact Richard so his borgs are unavailable. May I ask one thing however Warlord?

Make it quick.

How did you know EVE.

...Long ago I got lost found myself in strange place. In exchange for giving me my arm she wanted to get a hold of an old friend who she lost touch with. Problem was I didn't know where to find you. Then one day I encountered the Memor I later joined them because I respected power. Thing was however you here too...so I did my best to guide along to find your friend. Things didn't work out according to plan though cause I sorta didn't know where EVE is or how to get back. In any case I will take care of Richard. Goodbye EDE just know your friend is still around and wondering where your at."

With that General Duel Fist departed heading to the compromised labs on his way to the surface. There were literal tides of foes...this was when Duel Fist finally decided to use his second fist. As it slid and pieced itself down into a cannon. He started fighting his way through tides of enemies reinforced by EDE's security bots. While further away a second pincer advanced this one made up of Clora Fleshbeasts including herself despite being so wounded had injected some hydra.

Rolled 33

>>27325660

I like it.

Rolled 21

>>27325687
Tides of enemies stood in the way. Mountains of corpses soon built up. Bot after bot failed. For every bot that fell they took 5 of the enemy but that still wasn't even. For everyone of Clora fleshbeast that fell that took with 2 of the enemy. It still wasn't enough. Then however Warlord duel fist penetrated the Richards laboratory only to find himself now attacked by the leaper Spiders. He was surrounded by all sides but he fought on. With no armor and nothing but his bare hands. He was about to fall where he heard a strangely familiar string of profanity and strange words.

"I am gonna make you into my new mudpie for my granny but she hates BUGS." There was glowyJoe who somehow leaped onto Warlord Duel Fists back.

Its PARTY TIME, screamed GlowyJoe Duel Fist couldn't help but agree. As together with Joe's firing of many bullets and lobbing of much explosives from A Warlord's shoulders. With Duel Fist showing the enemy the art of the Single Iron Fist style. They quickly made progress. Only to find Richard having somehow Jury rigged a new monstrosity. His only words being MEAT MISTER AND MISSES SPIDERNAUGHT. Which quickly fell upon the enemy. With Richard screaming while riding the both of them

YOU THINK YOU FUCKERS CAN MESS WITH SCIENCE AND ME NOT KNOW ABOUT IT AHAHHAHH I HAVE KNOWN SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING.

After that Duel Fist fought his way to the surface with an army of borg, bot, and even fleshbeast at his back for some reason heading straight to the mobile factory. Through tides of monster, Advanced fleshbeast, and even feral ghoul. Once there Warlord Duel Finished had the factory leap up in mid air as he detonated the plasma veins all at once...which slaughtered everything on or near the ground. Then it ran down the tunnels frying everything lurking down there. With Warlord Duel Fist charging right behind it. Tunnel through tunnel he fought both him and GlowyJoe carrying a massive amounts of explosives on their back.

Rolled 87

>>27325836
The tunnels allowed them to flank the enemy relieving our forces as the foes were caught between the two like a sandwich made of slaughter and yet more slaughter. All the while GlowyJoe throwing explosives around collapsing entire networks of tunnel despite how fortified they may have been. But deeper and deeper they fought the more enemies that came around them. Attacking from all six sides. By this time everyone but the Team up of GlowyJoe and Warlord Duel Fist have either fallen or stayed behind. But deeper they fought ever deeper. Through so many enemies tunnels literally were completely stuffed chalk full of them. The two of them actually had to start using explosives just to make room for them to advance. Finally however they reached a the central Nexus. What the two of didn't know is that by that time it had been entire months had passed. In only a matter of weeks they had completely taken out the tunnel networks anywhere NEAR the Northern swamp because Warlord Duel Fist Sense of direction was so fucking bad. They had found themselves at the heart of the very nexus itself despite the ludicrous amount of detours and decoys. There they found the heart of the beast so to speak and the lost hero Alexis who was a captive.

There in a massive cavern where all the tunnels eventually led both those new or ancient. Stood such a scientific monstrosity that even Richard would of of been jelly.

"I must say this sweet young thing could keep her mouth shut despite not knowing anything she kept quite for such a LONG time. Must say though its impressive the amount of havoc you caused its going to take me centuries to rebuild it all. Damn swamp ground makes everything just SOO slow going. Ah but before I forget you do know that if anything happens your friend dies too right?

...I am guessing you never heard of Giggles then.

oh so THATS what I heard earl- wait second where the fuck she go, Muttered the creature looking around for its no longer captive.

Rolled 40

>>27325980
All that time she was there.
All those months, rotting under us like a cancer.

Rolled 96

>>27325980
Ah fuck so much for THAT idea I suppose. How depressing I had such a good speech too...

Ah well I suppose you DO know that your completely surrounded right. this time however your RIGHT under old mother! With the endless hordes that entails. I am afraid its your loss Duel Fist and ah Joe I think it was?

Its GLOWYJOE, corrected GlowyJoe who despite his constant barrage of bad speech and curses voice STILL wasn't hoarse.

ahh fine just fine, muttered the Creature.

I am gonna guess your Clora'Zel sister?

What oh god no I am Nex'Wor I am just in charge of the tunnels. You know attacking from below, breaking into secure facilities, and ruining stuff that sort of thing. Oh also-

Looks like its time for you to die, finished Duel Fist raising his second Fist.

Oh this is gonna be such fun!

that was when from everywhere came monsters pouring everywhere. Including Brood Guard and worse. Still wasn't enough to stop Warlord Duel Fist from fighting through them. Unfortunately for him however he was out of explosives same with GlowyJoe. So they wouldn't be able to collapse it or even blow a passage through as quickly became evident as the corpses began to pile up. It didn't stop them as it wasn't long before they they fought their way to the scientific monstrosity that would made Richard weep out of pure jealousy.

So I must ask how do you plan to bring this place down when your all out of explosives, asked the creature toying with both of them. As they both barely struggled to hang on.

How why with your corpse of course, stated Duel Fist.

Oh really now and how is that?

Because in the primary tunnels you act a speed way. Meaning you pick up all the debris and act a mass blindingly fast transport.


Oh very good figured out the worms were I too bad your all out of explosive!

Heh you do know not all the explosives detonated right, stated War Lord Duel Fist as he raised his bionic arm with his last shot from the cannon would hit the creature.

>>27326105
And our lovely alexis too

Rolled 55

>>27326105
Fuck, I never thought brood mothers were just distributed through the swamp willy-nilly. God Dammit.

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Rolled 16

>>27326109
For the thing was Warlord Duel Fist single remaining shot was a trick shot. For you see a lot of the explosives were digestible and got stored IN the very body itself. Basically if you ate enough of it you literally became a walking time bomb. That shot was designed to activate said bomb. Considering how that creature basically ate everything in the tunnels...it itself was the bomb. And that wasn't even including the explosives it missed in the side passages. Basically it was the single largest living detonator and bomb to exist in the entire apocalypse. With that single shot it would begin to detonate and it too will detonate all those other explosives and anything else lurking down there. Or release it.

ITS BOOM BOOM TIME. Are the final words of GlowyJoe right before Warlord Duel Fist shot at the creature which missed.

HAHA- only to hit an appendage of it against a wall.

OH shit- were the final words of said creature. As it began to detonate with all those caches of explosives and worse.

That was when Warlord Duel Fist begun to look around. Enjoying the view of a literal river of gore, mountains of corpses, screaming monsters trying to escape desperately, a collapsing ceiling that would bury everything and for some reason GlowyJoe taking a shit in the Nex'wors exploding mouth. Warlord took out his cigar lit it with a spout of plasma from his bionic arm. Looking around he noticed everything was beginning to light up as the explosives began to really cook off properly including living explosive that is Nex'Wor.

The final words spoken by Warlord duel Fist after he took his first and last puff of his final cigar before everything lit up in a blinding flash light as everything went to hell around him without giving a single care in the world. At that moment he was at inner peace and blissful. Only when he looked around did he say those finals words of to the perfect timing of-

"it's boom time."

Rolled 100

>>27326244
losses

600 memor
200 strong arm
250 Mulic
100 Ortor
20 Tectus
200 ghouls
20 glowers

3000 fleshbeast
1200 borgs
470 bots
1000 Glows Crew Raiders Elite
500 Bad Ass Bandits

Vehicle losses

All STs

half of siege equipment

half of SSTs other half crippled


Anyway gonna call it a night but I will stick around a bit for questions.

>>27326278
Wait, don't we get a 100 bonus?

Rolled 55

>>27326282
>>27326282
If this thread is still open tomarrow then yes. Otherwise no.

Rolled 14

>>27326278

Why didn't you have sunglasses fall onto his eyes as the explosion went off?

Rolled 29

>>27326300
Does that mean you'll run a quest tomorrow if this is still up?

>>27326300
Then we'll be sure to keep it going.

also
>>27326278
1.) Oh mannnnn I don't know where to even begin
2.) We're wrecked. Shit, we lost our hero but live to tell the tale. But the good news is we've basically cleared the land under us for good right?
3.) How much of our facility was lost? Any research salvagable? Have the spiders survived? Multiplied even? It's gonna be a feast even if we have one left
4.) Can we develop a way to prevent further undermining? Like some sort of steel foundation or buried defenses?
5.) Injuries. Whose hurt, how badly, will the broodmothers medecine be of any effect
6.) How long before we can expect a counter attack? Have we made a dent in their forces or barely scratched the surface?
7.) How you constantly come up with such great material is beyond me.

Rolled 86

>>27325660
I think the dice gods have listened anon >>27326278
Do not waste their gift.

Rolled 93

>>27326282
>>27326300
Can we use that 100 to account for Alexis escaping and running off out of the tunnels while no one was watching? Putting her satyr legs to a test like no other tectus had before.

>>27326342
That would be lovely.

Someone to live and tell the tale of the last stand of Warlord DuelFists

Rolled 35

>>27326342
I could get behind something like that

>>27326302
Warlord Duel Fist is too cool for lame ass shades. He prefers that the enemies dying breath is them looking into his actual eyes and seeing what lurks there.

>>27326308
Sure. It also gives me time to come up with something for that 100.

>>27326342
Never underestimate Giggles dear anon.

>>27326317
1 continue
2 somewhat. There are a truly nightmarish and dizzying number of things lurking underground. Basically what they lost were ALL their speed ways and private accesses.
3 Facility only has some holes to patch...and figuring out wherever the hell Richard went. Research see Richard. No spiders survived.
4 Defenses are already built in. The reason it took them so long damned long was because they had to find some cracks to exploit.
5 Just about everyone is seriously injured. Dosages of Hydra are becoming a hot commodity. As for healing broodmother Clora'Zel is busy nursing the wounded turns out she is really quite good a it in a disturbingly/creepily motherly way.
6 Next counter attack is unknown. At the moment stating that their more then a little shell shocked is a massive understatement. As for damage to their forces unknown.
7 this is what happens when you starve someone with an over active imagination, traditional gamer who hasn't had a game in years, believes in writing that flows, someone who loves coming up with settings/weird shit and a shitty gm that /tg/ redeemed.

>>27326399
and my named dropped figures.

Rolled 77

>>27326317

2/4/6) Nex-bastard said it would take centuries to repair the damage that Dualfists had done before he set off the most powerful explosive in our post-apocalyptic setting. I don't think undermining will be a problem, I also think that we took out at least a decent chunk of their forces (bloodied the nose anyway). Their tunnel network was also their primary means of transport, I'm extrapolating. It's entirely possible that due to generations of influence on monsters the advanced fleshbeasts can move about the deepswamp with impunity, and chose to use tunnels to conceal themselves...but I don't consider it likely.

3) You know, the spiders are cool and all...but I think we need to focus more on developing mutations and psionics. At least until we get access to some better facilities for development of technology. Technology is definitely our weak point, along with manufacturing. Mutants have a severe penalty to researching, and a moderate one to industrial production, but those two are the only things we ever want to do. We have a goddamn biotech facility of world-ending proportions but we want a Massive spidertank instead of a building-sized psionic-death-dealing mass of tentacles and eyeballs.

Really though, remember our last assault? Against the high tech bandits? They had a psionic among their number that held our Forbidden Bandit in place, and that guy wasn't necessarily even hooked into a hive mind. Imagine what our Prophet of Fate could do if we researched his Wasteland Psionic crystals and found some way to implant them into every Memor, then have them lend him psychic aid whenever needed. (Or whatever those crystals will end up doing) We could've frozen all of the attacking fleshbeasts in place, then killed them with a thought.

Our bonus to psionic research isn't even as good as our bonus to biological research though. Seriously, mobile-base sized monster. Think about it. Deepswamp has them. I'm sure.

Anyway, that's just smar/tg/uy's thoughts.

Rolled 83

>>27326399
>No spiders survived
Son of a bitch. No richard to boot that was our only ticket to a quick built military while we build our forces.

We might have to resort to "artificial breeders". Ugh.

Rolled 75

>>27326470
Spiders are simply there to fill in the gaps and provide support. A boost to where the actually military should be (which is right now royally fucked). There' not the bulk, that should be us.

>magine what our Prophet of Fate could do if we researched his Wasteland Psionic crystals and found some way to implant them into every Memor
We were considering psionic mutations last thread, because right now we have to consider that the hivemind is psionically corrupted and we'll need to deal with that. The Mulim will be good for that though.

As for other mutations we were thinking of some kind of brain mutant, either good at actual math and calculations to substitute for Marcus loss.

>>27326506
Don't forget their cyborg, part fleshbeast so it's possible we can mutate them with the Broodmothers powers. But we can forget all about them if we can't find Richard.

OP are you still here I have one last question

Rolled 84

>>27326506

I liked the idea of a brain mutant, but in this world biological options are just as viable as technological ones, and I can't conscience spending the huge expenditure of time that was required to develop the brain mutants.

Look at the force we just faced, we've not encountered anything yet that could've stood against them. We had to burn a fate point.

Yeah, there wasn't really a clear statement on whether or not how hivemind was corrupted. I do wonder what the "Penalties for even the best of things." are.

>>27326549
still around but not for long getting quite sleepy.

>>27326565
Okay. The Memor rules. How much do you expect are plausible to be thrown out. Are any of them still credible?

>>27326573
1.) Broodmother can now convert humans to mutant and join hivemind with telepathic ease. Not garaunteed but just "encouraging". Addition of other efforts to win hearts and minds still recommended. Offspring of these normal converted concieve and grow up in the Memor manner and don't degenerate the genepool.
2. Artificial breeder feasble. Can be useful for generating soldiers in quick sucession, but these should not be allowed to breed or risk degredation of future generations.
3. Broodmother discovered in underground facility. Increases fertility rate of reproduction and intercourse in her broodnest vicinity. Releases juices especially useful for healing, but which cannot be stored and must be used in her vicinity as well.
4. Absolute control of base functions and robots by A.I. restored.
5. Hivemind membership is by consent and mutation, all entirely easy thanks to broodmother. Once joined of volition, loyalty is, in practice, assured. The hivemind does not allow for slavery

>>27326591
Still seems perfectly good anon. At least that one anyway.

>>27326591
-of it's members within the hivemind, nor crimes, and major actions within the hivemind are monitored and by consent of the hivemind masses.
6. Certain hero units have the strength and willpower to hide their thoughts from the hive-mind, even massive plots and secrets. This can lead to mistakes and unseen actions and conspiracies by the heroes, but the rest of the Memor masses do not and should not be feared of treason or action without hive-mind consent or supervision.
7. New strain of supervirus by Richard. One strain been deemed feasible for battle purposes. Other strain of contagion particularly deadly and left for "last resort/final solution" purposes.
8. The hivemind/overmind is capable of surviving without the presence of the Prophet of fate.
9. Radiation now heals. Don't ask how. It's mutation I ain't gotta explain.
10. Broodmother aura vicinity can make everything better, organics, machines and all.
11. Broodmother's subliminal "encouraging" can be used to increase convert turnout, however expect increased dissent among those with the experience or intelligence to detect it, and vice versa. The more experience the more likely they will pick up, while conversely the less experienced the less they will pick up. As such, populations used by the Broodmother (and any other psionic/subliminal/chemical) methods should be used on a group where they would not be likely to pick up, or dissent by the rejectors would not pose a serious issue.

What really concerns me the most is the loyalt of the Memor common man. Can his devotion really be corrupted? Or is it simply that he is tricked?

Rolled 29

>>27326551

Jesus it's late at night, dat grammar.

Anyway, here's important issues I think we need to tend to ASAP.

A: Scout, and if they're still empty, occupy them. We'll have to be careful though, and if the Psytech Bandits come back...Well, we can't afford a two-front war. Maybe we'll be lucky and we can produce better biofuel than them and offer them some for a base. Might need to rebuild our troops a little bit before this is viable, no use taking something you can't hold...then again, maybe our reputation would help with that.

B: Get our base back into running condition. I think we should prioritize getting into new facilities over improving ours though. There's not a single other faction around confined to one base.

C: Investigate the creatures Alexis saw in the tunnels that "Moved in a fashion similar to the Memor." That's definitely a hint from OP.

D: Search for EVE. Robots/bionics, proper technological research/production facilities, and another AI that can delimit ours. That's an invaluable facility. It'd be really damn nice to now how this place went to shit and where the look for the central swamp-causing brood mother.

E: We should definitely scrape the battlefield for scraps of advanced fleshbeast and feed them to Clora. She's our only means of producing troops at a reasonable rate, and it'd be nice if those troops were upgraded.

>>27326601
Crimes can occur just quite difficult to happen.

Devotion cannot be corrupted as its picked up on REALLY quickly. It possible just hellishly difficult to both corrupt and then keep it secret. It is however quite possible to be tricked.

Rolled 14

>>27326601
We really need to start working on our recruitment efforts. Next time were researching that suggestion serum.
And reaching good candidates for recruitment. God knows we already found them but we're always too busy to get to them.

>>27326625
With Richard gone we're at the loss of our best scientist too. Broodmother can try I guess.

>No engineer
>No scientist
>Our best Warrior dead
Things are looking grim.

Rolled 67

>>27326636
Which is why I was suggesting the brain mutant. Even if they're not the best engineer or scientist alone, there is strength in numbers. Like a cluster computer.

I was thinking, if we're worried about future tunneling by the enemy we can mutate some kind of worm. These worms will burrow into the earth, spread, but in the presence of air they rapidly dissolve into a kind of acid and collapse enemy tunnels.

But then theres the issue of it they start to collapse our tunnels. If there were only a way to differentiate.

That or some kind of siesmic hammer to strike the ground

Rolled 2

>>27326654
Maybe a mutant that specialises in burrowing and underground fighting?

Rolled 67

>>27326654

I like the worm idea. We could develop them in tandem with a digger mutant and have the digger mutant secrete some substance or other that keeps the worms away from our tunnels.

On the other hand, we're dealing with a force of broodmothers here that are far older and more experienced than our one is. They could probably mimic any tunnel protection compound easily. It'd be hella effective against tech-enemies though.

Rolled 72

It'd be really cool if we got some more bases. I think one of the reasons we face these do-or-die sort of situations so often is that we only have one base. All our eggs are in one basket, and it's one target for the enemy to throw all their forces at. They don't have to whittle down any defenses, take down any outlying bases, or anything, they just cruise right on up and we start fighting for our lives.

Rolled 72

>>27326317
>Rolled 88
>>>27325524 #
Vump

>>27326712
As always, the key issue here is manpower.
Everytime we want to conquer a base, move somehwere else, heck maybe even just make our base a little safer we don't ever have the means

Rolled 77

The Marauders have abandoned us in our time of need. The ghouls were of no use. God knows what the odd Bandits are up to these days.
We haven't seen the Caravan in a year. Damn it sucks being the pariah race.

>>27326278
Month 61

>>>>A. Scavenge for food.
>>>>B. Try to improve the base
>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.
>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.
>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.
>>>>H. Your choice

6 resource points.

Thanks to the death of Warlord Duel Fist we no longer have a free military action.
Thanks to heavy losses we lost our second action of our choice.


current military

Memor 600
Strong arm 100
Mulic 50
ortor 100
Tectus 30
Ghouls 50
Glowers 10

Fleshbeast 600
Borgs 300
Robots 70
Glows Crew Raiders Elite 500
Elite Bandits(upgraded) 500

current pop
Memor 1200
Strong Arm 200
Mulic 150
Ortor 175
Tectus 50
Ghouls 70
Glowers 15

Actions User?

Rolled 4

>>27329725

Yup. Even Marcus said "Naw, fuck those guys." to us in our time of need.

By the way, I really resent Marcus for leaving and unless he redeems himself somehow I think we should kill him once we're strong enough.

>>27329703
Which is why I have suggested recruiting as well as the heroes. Considering our current rep however and the loss of Warlord Duel Fist that may prove to be most difficult.

Rolled 58

>>27330225

Okay, so we have

Production Action:

Basic Action:

>>27330248
He departed before your time of need user. As all heroes require certain...things to ensure loyalty and them not stabbing you in back. Which is something that you should admittedly work on.

>>27330256
Affirmative.

Rolled 8

>>27330265

Could you relist the mutants that are in the swamp area around us? If there are any left after all the monsters and ghouls that've moved in.

Also, is Monster Mayhem still ongoing?

>>27330225
>>>>>>Food: good
>>>>>>Water: good
>>>>>>Morale: good
>>>>>>Armaments level: good
>>>>>>reputation level: Nightmare Fuel
>>>>>>Infrastructure: Fast Breeder Reactor(online) Biofuel Emergency Generators. Biofuel purifier. Biofuel Production Facility+. Barracks. Private Quarters. Storage labs(glowing flowers, finger biter fish, experimental fluids). Medbay. Laboratory. Workshop. Armory. biology splicing chamber. biotech research labs. biostorage facility. Psionic research department. A.I. Core. chemical warehouse. Secure warehouse. Holding cells. Holding tanks. Offices. Data Storage. Super Computers. Bionics lab. Cloning facility(occupied). Nanite bed(busted). Broodnest. Lovenest+.
>>>>>>Defenses: Reinforced Buildings. Reinforced Gate. sand bags. Two bunkers. walled compound. sensor tower, Death Trap. Defense systems Online
>>>>>>vehicles:1 Digga Drilla. bandit spider tanks(biofuel) 4 Paramilitary spider tank(runs on biofuel). 6 plasma thrower spider tank(biofuel). 6 laser battery spider tank(biofuel). 3 transports crawlers(biofuel). 9 siege mk1.2 tanks. 2 'metal rain' artillery. 45 swamp walkers. 300 technical. 1 booty tap trap layer. 2 Piercing Demon(BIG holes small target) 2 Plasma Baby(YOU SAID RADIATION IS BAD FOR YOU) 2 BOOM-town( you said WHAT) 2 Bloody Bandit(Extra bloody and BEATTA) 2 Paramilitary Supreme(I can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME I am) 100 doom buggies. 1 bombardier (if you thought boomtown had boom you don’t know BOOM) 0 Forsaken Bandit (When solo go FORSAKEN)

>>27330297
>>>>>>Power: Fast breeder reactor( 5 years), emergency biofuel generators, 0 mini reactors(cannot construct Behemoth class vehicles)
>>>>>>materials: concrete, plastic, acid flesh and rock, Industrial chemicals, medical supplies. rusted metal.

>>>>>>Weapons: Pistols, Assault Rifles, Grenades, rifles, Traitorous Battle Rifles limited, sniper rifles, smg, shotguns, flame thrower, mono knives, stun batons, spears, elemental spewers limited (flame acid, electric, plasma mk1). Elemental Variants/ammo. heavy weaponry basic.
>>>>>>armor: Environmental protection body armor. mk 2 power armor(limited 20 suits),125 Marauder plate. Chamleze body armor(100 suits).
>>>>>>Technology: Super Advanced biolabs, Complex A.I. flower research(complete), spider tank conversion, Hydra, Super Spider Tanks(Markus edition), 5 mini reactors(limited), serum mutant. Mutagen Serum.
>>>>>>psionics: Hivemind, Mind blank, Nexus ME, Overmind, Hive to Hive, No Limits. Wrath. Psionic Stealth.
>>>>>>communications: hivemind, short range radio, Overmind
>>>>>>Mutations: Base, Hivemind. Toughness.

>>27330282
Monster Mayhem is indeed still underway for another 2 turns.

Rolled 92

>>27330265

Production: Patch up the base where it needs it most.

Basic Action: Research a way to make the Prophet of Fate and/or Broodmother glow. The Glows Krew Raiders Elite and Elite Bandits compose a significant chunk of our military might right now and it sure would be nice to have their loyalty absolutely assured.

>>27330310
The Glows Crew Raiders are on loan to us by GlowyJoe. Meanwhile the other bandits were here do to Warlord Duel Fist...I do not know how we can ensure that they don't do anything now that the Warlord is gone.

>>27330310

I think I may be the only one awake and participating right now. Oh well, if this thread survived through the night then people will come back to it sooner or later.

>>27330309

Do you have a list of researchable items? Also, do you have a list of benefits we research that were never applied? If so could you post them?

>>27330327

Well so long as our leaders glow GlowyJoe's bandits out to stick with us for a little bit right? You know, being insane and all. Especially with the loss of GlowyJoe in the tunnels.

By the way, make it research to turn Torg glowy. I forgot about him, but explosions and glowing are just his and the bandit's style.

Unless you don't think that will be enough, you are the AI

>>27330309
>>27326278
I was hoping we could put this 100 to good use now.

Not a sacrifice but something, like finding one of the lost heroes. Even Richard or Alexis would be of service right now.

>>27330282
As stated long ago by Warlord Duel Fist.

StrongArm
Mutations: +Tank. -Withered Limb. +Monstrous Strength.

Buggers: Small and Smart like Kreepy Runt Pack but very good at avoiding trouble unlike runts.
Mutations: +Keen Eye. +Sonic Radar. -Sensitive. Suckers+.

Rix: Nasty buggers every last one of them. Very hard to kill and wee bit crazy.
Muations: +X Claws. +Carapace Plating. +Monstrous Carapace. -Juiced. Mega Maw+

Viroz: Nasty bastards walking plagues each of them but for some reason bastards never get sick and can survive in nightmarish conditions even by Mutant standards.
Mutations: +pathogenic cloud. +Infested Symbiont. +Immunity.- Plague Cauldron. Sickness-. Bile+

Vizen: Sneaky charismatic fuckers the lot of them. Oh and by the way when they say looks can kill its literal among them. Too bad they can't stand each other though otherwise we all would of been screwed.
mutations: +unnatural grace. +hypnotic eyes. +Pheromones. +Camouflaged Structure. Killer Looks-.

>>27330332
>Do you have a list of researchable items?

glowing flower(completed) - I think this was the healing radiation one
Experimental fluids
Waste crystals
Finger biter fish
Ghoul Reaver capture(researched) - forgot what we discovered
Glowing One ghoul Capture
Necrotic Ghoul Capture
Hilly Billy Redneck Mutant Capture "guest"
Psionic Zombie("seemed to be directing them") Capture
Mutant Zombie Samples Package Deluxe(Richard actually fainted at the sight)
Monster Samples Inner Swamp
Tested Inner Marsh perimeter map.
Ghoulish Warbands and scouts mapped out patterns.
Zombie Reaction data
Contact Hilly Billy Family respects

At a later time though, perhaps the most important to us, besides recruitment, is to find and capture a wrangler to put what is perhaps the most abundant (and threatening) resource in teh swamp. The feral ghouls.

>>27330423
The 100 has an interesting effect that you will get to see in a few turns...

>>27330444

Well that's sufficiently vague as to be threatening.

>>27330425
Well we sort of have the Tectus to where the buggers would reasonably fit (unless their steal/sensitive abilities are superior. But even then we can just further mutate the Tectus).

The Viroz could be useful if, when Richard comes back, we can further develope the battle virus strain (or worse if we are under a sickness of our own).

As always the Vizen would be enourmously useful for recruitment and likely conversion.

>>27330440

Glowing flower was indeed the healing radiation one.

We've had "Experimental Fluids" and "Finger Biter Fish" for years now. He threw those to us in the first thread, they might be important or they might bestow boons that wouldn't solve any of our current problems.

I think we ought to research the Waste Crystals, then Experimental Fluids, then Finger Biter Fish as soon as we can.

>>27330310

I vote for this, it seems sensible and it's on a good roll.

Rolled 36

>>27330310
>military
Continue to drive out the enemy. Let the example of warlord dualfist be an example to us all.
>Basic 1
Broodmother uses her effect, from a safe distance of course, to rally our troops further inspire them
>Basic 2
The Prophet shall use all his means to seek the likely whereabouts of Richard
>Production
Construct base repairs to fortify our forward positions

>>27330469
Buggers are not scouts. Not to mention all the older StrongArms are quite leery when it comes to their SUCKER ability. Apparently not fun to be on the receiving end of according to them.

Viroz basically living plague cauldrons. Supposedly.

Vizen are quite antisocial. They don't even like each other much less others.

Problem is this data we have is quite old and what we picked up from the Warlord.

Rolled 97

>>27330486
Well, if they can prove to be more useful than control of even a fraction innumerable legions of ghouls, I suppose so.

>>27330469

We should probably prioritize getting the Vizen. We need something that they want in order to secure their loyalty though. Also it's possible that they don't act as a faction but as individual units.

You know, like Marcus' wife.

>>27330503

First of all we don't have that many actions, but also that's a horrible plan. We need to nurse our wounds.

Rolled 50

>>27330512
>Buggers are not scouts.
What are they then? Spies? Ambushers? Again we do have the Tectus for that. but if they are better in that or other ways , which I'm sure they are, then we should definitly recruit them sooner or later.

Rolled 93

>>27330519
As it happens you do know she plans to visit us in a few turns? Apparently she plans to have drinks with Clora'Zel claiming how she needs to relax and have some fun!

I will admit I am a wee bit concerned about what may end up happening for the sake of 'fun'.

Rolled 47

>>27330530
We are still in the middle of fighting for control of our base. Nursing our wounds is a given, she's already passing around her serum. We cannot let anymore of our base fall into enemy hands

And have or have we lost our second basic action EDE?

>>27330540

Hah. Well that'll be neat to see.

Rolled 27

>>27330553
You have.

Rolled 41

>>27330553
Yeah we're still under attack by monsters for 2 more turns, we shouldn't be doing research until we first secure the base and we should find Richard for that.

Rolled 7

>>27330566
Dammit.
Then
>Military
Continue to push, hold the line, drive them out where we can.
>Basic 1
Broodmother continues to heal and inspire our troops with her aura and hyrda.
>Production
Patch up the base where we need it most

Rolled 19

>>27330599
we also lost our free military action thanks to the loss of the Warlord User.

Rolled 73

In any case what is the consensus?

Rolled 61

>>27330609
Then do the latter two. We need to nurse our wounds and hold the line.

Rolled 13

>>27330620
>Basic 1
Broodmother goes around healing and using her aura on our troops where she can.
>Production
Patch up the base where it is needed most.

You guys seem to be under the impression that Warlord Dualfists DIDN't kill all the enemies that were in our base.

I believe that's wrong.

Rolled 83

>>27330643
I'll get behind that

>>27330677

>>>27330309
>Monster Mayhem is indeed still underway for another 2 turns.

We're still under attack from the outside. It's so thick we can't even set foot outside of our base.

Rolled 55

>>27330677
He purged the entire base but not the outside.

>>27330693
Unless we get a major force of monsters coming our way (and we shouldn't because She Who Hungers and Her minions are temporaily stunned and not directing the monsters anymore) our standard guards and defenses should be enough to hold them off.

Anyway, if this>>27330310 isn't happening i'll vote this>>27330643

Rolled 97

>>27330310
Base defenses have been repaired.

As for making someone glow it wasn't hard. Especially for the broodmother. Others however had to rely upon a few remainders of spliced bio luminescence strains that Richard had lying around.

>>>>A. Scavenge for food.
>>>>B. Try to improve the base
>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.
>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.
>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.
>>>>H. Your choice

2 resource points.

Where would I go to catch up on this quest?

>>27330978
Suptg has all but one

Rolled 10

>>27330978
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/27317114/ is the last thread.

>>27331017
Suptg has links to ALL of them. I made sure of that. If your willing to search around anyway.

Rolled 78

>>27330846
>Basic 1
Have broodmother go about eating and assimilating the corpses of the fallen into more fleshbeast
>Production 1
General reparation of all existing vehicles using what 2 resources we have.

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>>27331024
well map guy here, i left you with right before we were about to be attacked, when EDE said that he detected shit from underground.

That was the most heartpounding read of my life.

>>27330846
OP can we get an update on that "show of support" force we sent to the ghouls to keep tabs on the front lines? How does the Ghoul-Zombie war go?

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>>27331646
you guys do realize that every time we have ever done major damage to anybody (except the skull fuckers) we have pretty much sacrificed most of our forces (by way of crit-fail or just stupidity) just before hand, making us appear to the outside would like we are a semi-suicidal crazy bunch of fucks

>>27331713
Ah, but even the odd bandits think we are only doing it as a clever ruse
"You assholes! You make it seem like you're about to lose, toy with us, and then you unleash hordes of monsters!"

>>27331670
1. that is abig waste of what little forces we have
2. anything we can send them would be too small to compare to the thousands and thousands of ghouls that they have.
3. we should see about recalling dem ghoul heros though, or atleast speaking with them

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>>27326278
100

After the explosion amongst the rebel rose up an surprisingly untoasty Warlord Duel Fist. As his eyes adjusted to the gloom however he realized he had a serious problem.

First of all around him stood an amazing variety of advanced flesh beast that would even make the Brood Guard piss themselves.

Second thing was there above and him all were tubes that poured forth more fleshbeast.'

Third he finally realized that what lied above the cavern was the Head Lair of She Who Hungers as the Memor claimed.

With a GlowyJoe at his back and both of them out of ammo. GlowyJoe said a most enlightening thing.

"So if more fleshbeasts keep on coming that means we never get to stop fighting yes?"

Warlord Duel Fist was stunned and could only nod his head in agreement. Looks like he will get to fight to the end after all and not have it all go boom. This made him happy as he was always one for fighting. Both him and GlowyJoe prepared for the best and final fight. As the ground rumbled around them and the fleshbeasts woke up and advanced. Today Warlord truly blissful. He had saved his people and now he could do what he did best. He had no worries or complaints left only the moment as he raised his fists towards the oncoming horde.

>>27331742
exactly why anyone who gets to know us and realizes those were all accidents [/spioler] just goes "oh god, they're all fucking idiots"

>>27331749
We already sent them. That was only 2 SST's, back when we had dozens could churn out 8 per turn if we liked. It was peanuts for us to send those at the time.

It was supposed to be a measely force anyway. Their only purpose is to act as hivemind eyes and keep things up while sort of saying "hey ghouls we're your palls".

And yes that's exactly why they are there, so we can have hivemind access to the ghouls.

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>>27331832
And as of right now they're the only Memor we have in the outside world I think

>>27331815
i wonder how long he will last fighting? months? years? with the Warlord and GlowyJoe you just never know

>>27331529
This, but change production to producing explosivesso that we can arm the Glow Krew and bandits with what they like.

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>>27331923
If glowcrews and bandits with explosives will have a better time outside the walls than our tanks, why not.

>>27331923
Do my rolls not show if they're made on my phone?

>>27331970
you missed the 1

>>27331820
Well the only people who are gonna get to knows pretty much join the mind with loyalty so no problems there unless it's a hero.

fucking Marcus is probably spilling Memor secrets for a profit or a laugh
"Their like a bunch spastic 5 year olds, shitting their pants at the first sign of trouble and charging to attack"

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>>27332043
Well he did ask the Broodmother for info on mutation, breeding, and stuff before he left

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>>27330846
Random event iniated.

You find yourself awake in a strange bed and room. Surprisingly clean you might add that was when you realized that you had company. As sitting at a chair watching was a figure in strange type of armor.

Hm so you have finally awoken. Must admit our doctors were a bit concerned but also amazed.

Where am I?

The Citadel otherwise known as the Fortress Containment.

So I could of sworn I died...

You did by the sounds of it but somehow you came back...kinda. Your friend brought you here.

Why?

"We are the only ones he knew of who knew how to somewhat deal with," the figures shrugs "whatever you became...kinda truth be told we have no idea how you turned out the way you did."

That was when you got up.

Oh guessing you want to stretch your legs?

Yeah...I do have no idea how long I have been out. Feels like years.

It was months, corrected the figure handing you some extra garments. "It can get chilly."

After putting them on you went outside your room. It was largely empty and he was right despite the damp that hinted at wet heat. It actually was quite chilly. Down the metal passages and the blinking bleary ancient lighting. You trudged on with your...guide right next to you.

I doubt you did this out of the kindness of your hearts so what did you get in return also what about what was with me?

Hm what we got for helping you was a guaranteed armaments resupply. Good stuff too as for what was with you...follow me. With that the figure veered of going what seemed to be in circles only for it to open up to a garage yard. That was when you saw a strange vehicle which called out to you for some reason and a strangely familiar figure turned towards you. It was Markus but who was somehow...different now.

Why its good to see you again...Ramona.

damn all these fucking hundreds[/spoilers]

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In any case what is the consensus?

Amazing, I JUST started following this quest on sup/tg/, and here it is!

Something I've been dying to suggest - that we develop a mental attack - even if it's a very weak one and may even just be a glorified psionic scream - that can be targeted at anyone that any member of the hive can see.

This might be presumptous, but there's just no way I'll be able to catch up in time. Any chance for a short summary of what's happened since thread 4?

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>>27332133
Oh fuck

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>>27332175
We have already developed Mass Telepathic Wrath.
We just haven't really tested it yet. Presumably if one of our members see's someone or something all the Memor can channel it into rage and crush it. I think.

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>>27332175
It exists and is known as Wrath.

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>>27332189
Never underestimate Markus or the power of multiple 100s.

>>27332211
>>27332222
Awesome.
Did we ever get around to developing serious guerilla tactics, sniper squadrons, scouts and artillery (seeing as we have absurdly good spotters by their very nature)?

>>27332133
>>27332154
>>27332222
>>27332241
i just have to know, are they still "on our side"

>>27332250
we have had great artillery they just seem to get wiped out to much, the snipers are the tectus and they are quite good. though we need more of them

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>>27332175
As for since chapter 4
>Develop a doomsday virus, although later we question if it is effective enough deliver the doomsday or not
>Swamp gets invaded by a new faction of bandits with advanced weaponry
>Attempt to fend them off. We get so SO close to winning except one bad roll fucks us over.
>Before we can use the Virus, that's when Marcus comes out with his super secret project he hid from the hivemind, the Marcus Special Mobile shop. Destroys 2 of their bases, while his wife nukes the others causing a mass influx of ghouls
>Then we play around with some science, with moderate rewards. The best part is the Broodmother went into hibernation and earned lots of powers
>Then we create a new breed of mutant. The Tectus. Fast, agile, silent, eyes and ears of a hawk, with skin that can blend in their are the ultimate scout/sniper/sabotuer
>Throught their scouting efforts we get a much bigger map
>A 2nd new type of bandit builds a base. They mostly dig in, settle down, set up their city for themselves. In our ultimate wisdom (yeah right) we decide to attack before we even communicate or scout. Of course, it ended badly but we nuked one of their bases and the ghouls filled in. Turns out they weren't as bad as we thought, so we left them alone.
>Then things get interesting.

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>>27332250
To a degree.

>>27332258
Unknown.

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>>27332250
>>27332277
Yes, since the very begging. A memor telepathically see's and gives coordinates instantly to our mathematicians. The mathematicians, working telepathically in perfect simultanous coordination, calculate the necessary trajectory. Less than a second later, the teams get a telepathic message where to fire.
Updates are, again, instantly given by the eyes of the scouts via telephathy. This allows for perfect precesion. Similarly the snipers act as so, no longer needing a spotter or line of sigh.

The tectus has greatly enhanced this, as so has Torg and his artillery tactics

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In any case what is the consensus for this months action.

>>27332290
>>27332281
so are you writing? or do you still need consensus?

we really need to go find Richard and Alexis though im sure they will survive we still need to get to them before She Who Hungers does

>>27331529
>Basic 1
Have broodmother go about eating and assimilating the corpses of the fallen into more fleshbeast
>Production 1
General patching of of the most vulnerable spots of our base

we really need to crank out fleshbeasts cause they are really our strongest opprutunits, that and psionics

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>>27332320
Basically
Scout sees target - hivemind calculates - arty crews fire - update.
But instead of radios where this could take minutes, it's hivemind and is more like seconds.

>>27332281
>Things get interesting
>The words of the strange bandits, as well as a most intelligent anon, dissect the numerous hints and writings on the wall (figurative) that the EDE A.I. had left
>Determine an imminent attack by our greatest foe, She who Hungers, a broodmother in the center of the Deep Swamp. She has corrupted our very hivemind, to an extent unkown
>We barely fend them off, until a final sacrifice by Warlord Duelfists gives us a fighting chance
And now we're here.

Also somewhere we forgot the incredible Heroic sacrifice of Ramona the bandit pilot, who it seems, isn't the posthumous hero we thought.

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>>27332383
forgot dice

>>27332281
Thanks a lot!
>>27332277
Why do we ever bring them out where they can be destroyed?
Do they not have a range of multiple kilometers and capable of traveling at least one kilometer behind our main forces without losing any efficiency?

Can we use regular military as snipers and spotters until we have sufficient numbers of Tectus?

What was up with that guy's wife? o.o

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>>27332383
We fixed up the base as is. Right now we can fix our damaged tanks or give the glowkrews some explosive weaponry.

Actually the spiders were making out to be our greatest opportunist, much moreso than the fleshbeasts, but they were wiped out after the prototypes were finished and Richard is no where to be found

>>27332390
Haha, I love a wasted 1

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>>27332390
That feel when that 1 wasn't somehow attached to an action.

>>27332332
I need some consensus I just got bored waiting and did some writefaggotry while waiting.

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>>27332390
oh thank god that was discussion

>>27332400
they probably do not have that kind of range and if we did that they would be vulnerable.

>>27332383
im all for this

>>27332400
>Why do we ever bring them out where they can be destroyed?
>Do they not have a range of multiple kilometers and capable of traveling at least one kilometer behind our main forces without losing any efficiency?
They do, but the issue is often the enemy is so fast and strong to swamp our forces and get to them anyway.

>What was up with that guy's wife?
She's a vashari, a special kind of mutant that's charismatic and sexy as fuck. Kinda like the Vizen, except not as hateful toward each other and other mutants

>>27332390
>>We barely fend them off, until a final sacrifice by Warlord Duelfists gives us a fighting chance

Why aren't we finding her nests/armies and starting to shell them right now, before they arrive?

Have we started a serious guerilla campaign on her forces yet? (One month of constant guerilla assault is an absurd amount of damage)

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>>27332458
just go read the threads, you'll understand

>>27332458
It's called deep swamp.
It's scary. It's deadly. It's unscouted. It's deadly.
Did I mention it's deadly?

It's also pretty big, we dont' know where her base is. She also sorta tunneled under our base for months without us knowning, sent one of her own heroes too. We're still trying to figure out how to stop that.

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>>27332444
>>27332398
>>27332383
I can roll with this, heheh "roll"

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>>27332383
1 flesh has been recycled by the Broodmother. At least some of it anyway. A lot of the monsters have mechanisms built into to greatly speed up the breakdown process.

2 Defensive patches continue

2 resource points left.


Vehicles have been repaired.

1 turn until Monster Mayhem is over.

At the moment monsters are being held of by the Deathtrap and Defensive Network problem is their heavily damaged and its unknown how long they can hold.

>>27332489
It actually took her centuries. Swamp ground is hell combine with trying to avoid certain places, defenses, and other fun stuff it takes a long ass while.

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>>27331670
I'd like to know this to EDE. Have we been keeping eyes on our guys at the Ghouls via the hivemind or were they wiped out and we didn't notice?

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>>27332545
Month 63

>>>>A. Scavenge for food.
>>>>B. Try to improve the base
>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.
>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>E. Pursue new mutations.
>>>>F. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>G. Scavenge for raw materials.
>>>>H. Your choice

2 resource points.

>>27332558
They got wiped out when the ghouls were besieged between the monsters and zombie hordes combined. Now however the ghouls are no longer pinned but their clammed up tight for Monster Mayhem.

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>>27332489
>>27332545
we dont really have to worry about tunneling, lets also note to never start a serious tunneling plan because of how long it took the broodmother, it would probably take us longer

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>>27332581
i think this got enough votes>>27332383

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>>27332477
(This thread would be over by the time I'm done)
>>27332489
I realize that the deep swamp is horrifying - but the point of artillery is that we can actually stay a fair bit outside the swamp while shelling.

Can I suggest shelling any area where we know she has inhabited tunnels, and get a few seismographs to try and figure out where they are?
It seems pretty likely we'd be able to collapse them on top of the creatures inside.
(Blatantly putting random suggestion in, just in case the roll is good).

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>>27332581
Gah, there go our only link to the outside.
Well, except Ramona unless she's severed too.

>>27332545
That's some good knews. At least can be thankful there won't tunneling like that for a long time.

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>>27332545
>>27332581
>>27332603
oh nevermind that was last turn

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>>27332607
The deep swamp is big. I mean really really BIG.
Even if we put our arty right up at the edge of the swamp we probably wouldn't be able to reach her.

As for tunnels we no longer have to worry, we blew them up and it took her centuries to make them.

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>>27332581
>Basic 1
With our new fleshbeasts, our troops moderately healed, and our tanks also repaired, let us give the final push and drive them out of our base perimeter.
>Production 1
Continue to repair defenses as they hold off the horde

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>>27332607
we destroyed ALL of her tunnel networks. im pretty sure that Warlord and GlowyJoe were in the middle of the Deep Swamp when that bomb went off. it completely fucked all tunneling efforts ever.

also, with the collapse of the massive tunnel network and the explosion of the biggest bomb since the apoc (possibly ever) i propose that the entire deep swamp (or maybe just most of it) drops by about 20-30 feet. this would discourage monsters/ghouls/everything from leaving there, and it would allow a bit of drainage of some of our swamp making it less "vegetatous"

this plan also makes a lot of sense that it would happen

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>>27332698
>drops by about 20-30 feet.
You would think that, but actually upper ground can be really stable with all the trees and foilage holding it in places. My guess is that the water simply drains to fill the gaps.

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>>27332611
Romona has been severed yet somehow she turned out to be psionic so she can connect its just very troublesome.

>>27332697
Their outside our base perimeter thanks to the efforts of Warlord Duel Fist.

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>>27332743
upper ground? i dont recal him saying it was higher or lower than us.

the roots and shit makes sense but thaqt was a really fucking big bomb, like really really really big. really big

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>>27332698
I said biggest LIVING bomb.

>>27332770
Will they leave and go away in the next turn even if we don't do anything?

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>>27332697
>Basic 1
With our new fleshbeasts, our troops moderately healed, and our tanks also repaired, let us drive our forces out to hold the perimiter
>Production 1
Continue to repair defenses as they hold off the horde

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>>27332797
well i still think its pretty likely. them old world scientists probably make some bag ass living bombs

>>27332785
I meant the surface ground. And yeah, unless the bomb was big enough to create a crater even at the surface, the swamp could still hold it's integrity.

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>>27332639
Sounds like our next research project should be some kind of V2 rocket or biological flying bomb/flying creature with extremely corrosive acid for blood.

If the hivemind being compromised is still an issue, could it be helped by disconnecting most of the individuals and reforming them into smaller groups that have contact by radio, with other words compartmentalize our Hivemind?
(Groups that need to work quickly together would obviously be part of the same group)

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>>27332830
Overmind system already does that. Plus you only think its compromised hard to figure out for certain with current capabilities.

>>27332830
Even if we have the range, the problem is we don't know where to strike nor could we cover a decent area and it's freakin rocket science. It'd be awesome, but we're biologist. and we definitly don't have the resources to make a dent.

As for segregated hiveminds, that's how it used to be way in the begging until we developed the overmind to connect them all. The Prophet of fate can still do that, but this corruption could be complete and total to all hive mind members. Segregating might not help. We don't know much about it.

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>>27332830
no, we are not getting dictracted agian

could you please go back and read the threads now, or else i cant really take anything you say seriously.

we are going to be delving deep into psionics and possibly fleshbeasts. and maybe them spiders to. makeing rockets that could actually do any kind of damage to the deep swamp is really really fucking hard. not to mention that she would know where we are shelling and just avoid those places with her forces

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>>27332882
yeah we already do that. Our hivemind system is fine how it is, we just need to research psionics so that our hivemind isnt fucking weak. plus, sis you see them bandits? they were fucking op as fuck

>>27332896
Psionics and Recruitment efforts. Think outside combat and also to economy. Time and time again our heroes the EDE has been suggesting we fill our ranks with more converted Memor.

Now that we know Broodmothers subliminal suggestion efforts are effective under the right groups, so long as they aren't experienced or too intelligent, we should go about looking for such groups. We can also further mutate her powers, and develop that suggestion serum as well.

Basically we need more men.

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>>27332930
The hillbilly's don't sound too intelligent, but I bet there'd be some experienced members among them. We should find a way to filter out the likely and the unlikely candidates if we're to recruit them. Or anyone else.
>inb4 they hilbillys out to be highly educated and verbose gentlemen simply with a taste for incest and simple clothing

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>>27332800
Yeah, what's gonna happen once monster mayhem ends?

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>>27332980
we will need alexis to get in with them, and i fucking love that.

he said that they were a bit xenophobic

and do we still have their 'guest' here?

>>27332996
we are going to go find Richard and Alexis

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>>27332896
i support a mix of these

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>>27332930
>>27332896
hey guys, can we actually stick to our long term plan this time? can we not get distracted? like we always do

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>>27332896
Ah, you may be right.
Still reading this thread to current events.

The good thing about biological flying bombs is that they could spot for themselves and presumably have sufficient range to reach deep into the swamp. Essentially a target seeking missile (like Zerg Scourges, but able to divebomb) that you can release without a specific target. But if we already have a better plan I'll defer to your greater experience.

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>>27333127
the foilage of our swamp is to much to see though from the air, let alone the deep swamp. not only that but that place if filled with TITAN class monsters that do not necessarily serve her but she can call upon them at will

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>>27332896
>>27333097
Actually, how about we
Basic 1
I propose we develop a special class of Mulim. Devote even moreso to psionic detection?

The removal of their eyes and ears to decrease their sensory awareness, the blind Mulim increase their mental awareness. This allows them to see and hear the world through pure psionics. Like being able to tell what a card is before you flip it, they see the world through their minds not their bodies. They would be able mentally see the very links that telepathically bond hivemind members. We can catch the links that connect any of us to the Deep Swamp, and sever them. Also they'd be powerful at other types of psionics, maybe even individual telekensis.

Surely Prophet and the Broodmother can figure out a way.

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>>27333164
ehh its a good side project, theyll be like the psionic tectus

we just need to do some pure research for now, have the Prophet research those crystals, research anything that may aid in psionics

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>>27333113
We're just waiting for OP, unless he's waiting for a consens.

We have many long term plans, mutation, population growth, even securing the swamp. What's more important right now is the immediate issues and how we fix them.

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>>27333191
after monster madness is over we dont really have any immediate issues

so im going to prioritize research into psionics and finding Richard and Alexis

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>>27333215
as immediate term goals

and also, does the hivemind know that Ramona survived?