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Recent Events Summary:

In the throne room if Aeolus's palace, you met an intimidating construct holding the Staff of Winds, the reason you journeyed to Xile in the first place. It took Flint as a knight of Aeolus's Order, and communicated that it would relinquish the staff, but only after being defeated in battle. It claimed Flint could use any means nessecary to do so, but after hearing Adavan's negative prediction on the outcome of a battle, you decided to back down and search for a way to counter the staff before attacking the construct.

Adavan theorized that the Moonsong, and ancient weapon created by Erebus, might be able to do just that. You've been collecting the shards of that sword along your journey, and, from a diary you viewed earlier, concluded that the shards were used by the Black Hand to catalyze the terrible magic that still lingers in Xile. Auriel balked at the prospect of repairing the Moonsong, but eventually gave in on the condition that, after using it to supress the Staff of Winds, you would destroy it. You agreed to do so, but privately decided that you'd cross the bridge when you got there.

You then found Aeolus's legendary treasure room in the bottom of the palace, completely unguarded. The party split up to investigate the golden horde. You briefly spoke with Abigail, but she had an unfortunate reaction to the succubus reagents you've been keeping on your person.

After spending the night, you found a scrap of paper in the palace library indicating that the key to creating new dynamos was their unique housing. It referenced a research center in the city located on the edge of the island. Anxious to investigate, and possibly find some form of functioning transport, you set out for the city.

You found the research center within the city, and a dynamo housing. It lay in the center of a room filled with torn and sundered skeletons. What appeared to be more shards of the moonsong rested within the globe.

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You picked up the globe, and a terrible abomination left behind by the Black Hand immediately began to hone in on your position. At first, you planned to lure it back to the palace, so as to pit it against and weaken the construct guarding the Staff of Winds, but the plan proved too risky, and it engaged you in a brief and lethal battle. Just before it overwhelmed you, Temerity's power turned the tables. Abigail used her demonic abilities to destroy the dynamo house, releasing the shards, and destabilizing the magic keeping the creature whole.

Unfortunately, your earth dynamo was lost in the confusion of the battle, and Lucfier beat you to its location. He attempted to use it to counter and secure the staff of winds. As you tried to close in on him to ensure his plan failed, his plan did fail - the dynamo collapsed under the pressure of a huge cyclone summoned by the staff. You, Adavan, and Abigail were thrown into the winds.

Adavan vanished. Abigail lost her hand; it was lucky she didn't lose her life. You've managed to stabilize her with your healing magic.

In a stroke of fortune, the clash of magics destroyed the construct, and the staff was thrown clear. You've found it on the edge of the lake. As you cautiously examined it, Lucifer emerged from the trees, heavily injured, but alive.

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>>27284836
>[x] Kill Self

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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/BCgtZZFe

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/aPNv4aM7

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Current Statistics:

HP: 34/81
Mana: 14/58
EXP: 2

Shards of Erebus:
(Isolation) - Normal
(Silence) - Empowered
{Temerity} - Normal

New Shards:
(Ardor) - Strong
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

Wisp - 1 mana to order

--Automatons--

Earthen Construct (currently in Haven)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Moonsong Shards x 4
Sun-Moon Key
Lightning Key

--Current Location--

Xile

>Dangerous and risky plans that rely entirely on dice + dragging much more squishy allies along for the ride is basically the major problem.

>SQ players either need to go in alone on their crazy plans, as they're the only character with any real chance of handling the consequences, or they should pick something more reasonable to do with their allies that plays to their strengths and weakness.

>I think Xile is a result of overconfidence over a major plot reveal about the MC and Abby's new powers along with a dose of TOO GREEDY and being too used to solo fighting.

Something from the QTG that I felt needed to be heard here. We aren't invincible and our allies even less so. Think things through. The dice hate us so we need to come up with plans that don't have high-risks of failure.

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The edge of the lake is clear. With your enemies temporarily out of the way, you pour more magic into Abigail.

Her shallow breathing slows somewhat, and a bit of color comes back to her face. However - if you remember what Auriel said correctly - you can't make more blood for her. At least, not without very refined magic that you aren't capable of. She needs real rest, and lots of it.

You turn to the staff. Here it is, unguarded, embedded in the mud - but you can't be too careful. You bend all your senses forward.

It doesn't so much feel like Wind as much as it IS Wind itself. Crystallized wind. Air made solid.

It doesn't seem to be reacting any differently now that you're closer. You can't sense any magic around it, or any sort of connection to the lingering skysever. It feels distinctly different from that blood magic; it isn't tainted.

Leaves rustle behind you. You turn.

Lucifer comes out of the trees. You didn't sense him coming because his magic is like a weak flicker. He holds a hand to his stomach, somewhat staunching a flow of blood that streams from a gash there and down to his legs. His arms are shredded. You're surprised he can move them.

He stops and stares at you. You stare back.

What do you do?

>grab Abigail, grab the staff, and run. You can't take the risk that Lucifer will get the staff.
>just take Abigail and run, it's too risky to touch the staff before you're positively sure its safe.
>attack him; this is your best chance to end this once and for all.
>some other strategy

>>27284979
10 mana bind Lucifer.

>>27284836
>plot armor privileges are revoked until you earn them back
In before everyone is dead.

Remember, SM, the golden road is in the middle.

>>27285007
Yes, hopefully he is too weak to dodge. Grab the staff as well.

>>27285051
I'd rather just stick to Binding right now. I don't want to commit to several step plan but rather see how well we can neutralize him and assess before continuing. The construct may still be alive as well.

>>27285007
Can we also pick up Abigail and get ready to run if it doesn't work?

Because Lucifer currently has a target of opportunity.

>>27285112
That sounds good.

>>27285112

You're already holding her.

10 mana bind,

Roll 1d100

>>27284979
Just bind the fucker

Rolled 95

>>27285137

Rolled 41

>>27285137

Rolled 22

>>27285137

>>plot armor privileges are revoked until you earn them back
>>you've been warned

You've said this before.

>>27285157
>>27285160
That's at least decent I suppose.

>>27285168
...And?

What part of

>until you earn them back

Did you not follow?

He didn't say "forever" or "until further notice".

Obviously you idiots did something right long enough to leave the danger zone.

>>27285211
Real nice tone there, friendo.

>>27284836
>Plot armor

I refuse to believe we have plot armor at all. It's always been "Hey, this is kinda dangerous are you sure you wish to proceed? Okay, well it's your funeral"

>mana: 4/58

Ropes of orange mana snap out from you and fly toward Lucifer. You can feel him beginning his familiar teleport spell -

But his reactions are sluggish, and his spell feels cobbled together. Before he can warp, the ropes reach him, wrap around him once, twice. Their momentum carries him into a tree, and they pin him there like the sticky lines of a web of spirit.

He's managed to keep an arm free, and he produces a knife from his robes. Light and Lightning crackles on its edge as he begins to hack himself free as quickly as possible. It seems he really can't teleport while bound!

This...could be your chance to end him. Permanently.

What do you do?

>CONSUME Lucifer
>Gaping Maw Lucifer
>Take no chances. Gaping Maw while using Ardor to boost your consumption speed to maximum.
>Leave Lucifer and run.
>Leave Lucifer and retreat, but not before taking the staff

>>27285338
>Take no chances. Gaping Maw while using Ardor to boost your consumption speed to maximum.

>>27285338
>Take no chances. Gaping Maw while using Ardor to boost your consumption speed to maximum.

>>27285333

Maybe when the quest ends, I'll discuss this further. But for now, I'm leaving it.

>>27285211

Save the name calling for people who deserve it. He made a valid point: I've said similar things before.

What you said was also true. However...I think enough is enough. We should hold ourselves to higher standards. That includes me; I've been too soft. I've been reluctant to take the steps that need to be taken. This has lulled you into a false sense of security.

In any case, I said what needed to be said. Meta can wait.

>>27285338
Gaping and ardor, fuck this guy

>>27285338
>Take no chances. Gaping Maw whiIe using Ardor to boost your consumption speed to maximum.

>>27285338
Just nightflare the knife and take it away first.

>>27285338
>Take no chances. Gaping Maw while using Ardor to boost your consumption speed to maximum.

Fuck conservation of resources.
Fuck Lucifer
Fuck Xile
Fuck everything.

>>27285415
Tear off his exposed arm while we're at it.

>>27285415

Gaping Maw requires 4 mana, which is all you have left. You can't use Gaping Maw and nightflare.

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Roll 1d100 for Maximum Power Consumption

Rolled 20

>>27285452

Rolled 69

>>27285452

>>27285338
I feel like it's a good idea to run while we can and Abigail is in peril instead of risking everything on an all-out attack.

I mean isn't that literally what was just explained to us?

Rolled 14

>>27285452

>>27285468
>>27285470
There's really no helping you, is there.

>>27285415
NO.

FUCK THAT

MURDER HIM WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE.

>>27285468
>>27285470
>>27285491

Be glad you went all in. Writing.

>>27285471
We know. But at the same time everyone's too afraid to touch or leave behind the staff.

Rolled 40

>>27285333
You must be blind. I suggest looking at the changes of our health so far. The farther our health drops, the fewer damage we take. It's especially noticeable when we take 6 damage from attacks that would have cost us 20 or more points a few posts earlier. Whenever there was absolutely no possible way to survive we just remained at 1 hp.

>>27285338
Hoping for the best.

Rolled 63

>>27285452

>>27285471
No, it isn't. The is the weakest we have ever seen this enemy. Just leaving him to recover would be foolish.

>>27285512
I for one welcome an EXP debate over...this.

Rolled 95

>>27285452

>>27285550
We literally used the last of our magic and just barely squeaked by, our ally is still helpless and the staff is just lying there.

Stop gambling.

I say we wait at the lake a while. Heal up, take more time to analyze the staff, wait for Abby to wake up, etc.

>>27285518

As this is severely meta, it's in spoilers.

Well, actually, there is a wide variability in damage. The upper limits of the variability becomes greater along with the magnitude of the success or failure. So, a failure might result in you taking, for example, 1-5 damage. A bad failure, 3-8, a very bad failure, 6-12, etc. Obviously these numbers are effected by appropriate defense and offense values, the element of the spell, battle conditions, and so forth.

Shadow hasn't needed plot armor. His allies, however...

>>27285586
Leaving behind a powerful enemy is also a gamble.

>>27285591
Be careful how long we wait to get back to our companions. Adavan is AWOL and night comes in two hours.

>>27285594
Is Adavan dead, or is his phylactery well hidden and still active?

>>27285560
Hopefully we will FINALLY get pocket.
Given how hard it is I will try to put it in simple terms:
>Your waifu is damaged, /tg/. Pocket is a safe haven she would have needed previously and needs now.
>>27285586
Dude, there is a difference between picking your fights and evading your enemies even when they are down. The risk of just leaving is higher than the one of fighting here.

>>27285641
I thought Abby took care of that by destroying the dynamo. Unless there's another Moonsong shard here. We should Deep Focus to confirm.

>>27285560

We haven't colored the blue words green in so long... I need colors...

Okay, I'm sorry I got sarcastic because I felt Shadow Quest had gone on too long.

I just hope an end is in sight, even if it isn't going to be a neat and nice and happy ending.

>>27285594
Oh well, good for us then! I'm fine with our allies dying.

>>27285690
We have quite a ways to go

>>27285665
We really need pocket so that our allies don't get torn to shit whenever we charge in.

>>27285698
It would help bring some manner of consequence back to this quest.

>>27285690
Really, an ending has been in sight since the Archonium. We just need to work towards it or fail along the way.

>>27285665
I'm not sure if it's wise to put someone who is already very weak in the Nether, given that it seemed like even healthy people can't stay there for too long.

I'd sooner put the Staff in there, but I suppose it should be fine as long as it's a mere hour or so?

>>27285690
>Ending in sight

HaHaHa! We still have a good 30+ threads in us with all that is happening.

>>27285736
I'd rather get pocket for the staff and to finally keep our shit safe in future endeavors than to put Abby in it.

You move quickly. You slam Lucifer's arm into the tree. The knife flies into the bushes.

You envelope him.

Just before you do, he grins at you. "...Darkness is always the same...always trying to snuff out the light." You roll over his face, intending to cut off his words, but he manages to get in one last jab. "You'll never have peace, as long as you live. Sandalphon will make sure of - "

You crush his throat, and he gurgles on the last bit.

Your body opens and begins to chew away at him, first at the protective layer of magic that coats him like a shell, and then at his flesh. Ardor aids your efforts. A warped, twisting maw of black and white magic crushes and absorbs Lucifer and his soul into your being.

You draw back, and the binds of spirit fall slack, and vanish. Lucifer is no more.

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>HP: 43/81
>mana: 14/58
>EXP: 37

(Ardor) - Weak

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The sun is falling quickly. It took you some time to find Abigail and reach the lake. Hopefully your allies have found shelter. You still haven't sensed Adavan...you were hoping he would find you.

You move back next to Abigail and stare at the staff.

What do you do?

>try to take the staff
>leave the staff, head toward the city
>leave the staff, try to find Adavan

>>27285717

Get the wind staff, make Flint's kingdom happy and join our side and beat up Sadalphon?

>>27285768
Get pocket, put staff in pocket, and head towards the city?

>>27285698
I wouldn't mind our allies not having plot armor either as it would bring back that feeling of tension.

>>27285775
More like stop this Chaos vs. Order and Shadow prejudice shit so Shadow can finally just live the peaceful life he wanted.

>>27285768
>Take staff, buy pocket, attempt to telepathically shout at Adavan while moving towards the city.

>>27285813
>>27285698
I don't think "Yeah fuck our allies, it'll spice things up if they start dying" was the message that he wanted to convey.

>>27285768
IF we touch the stuff, make sure Abigail is FAR away. We can take a hit, she can't

>>27285768

Can we Telepathy our friends to let them know where we are? If not then take the staff.

Also I'd like to get more Spirit Magic like Lash and Siphon but I'm cool with Pocket too.

>>27285768
Whatever we do take a quick dip in the lake first.

>>27285768
>try to take the staff

>>27285827
>>27285768
This seems about right.

Having Pocket is good on its own, but it's also probably a good idea to be able to keep the Staff somewhere that nothing else can sense it while we're still somewhat vulnerable on our way back.

It has a relatively powerful magical signature, so being able to hide it somewhere that nobody can detect it seems incredibly useful.

>>27285768
I don't think we should leave the staff until we have CONSUMED the angel we washed away before with Lucifer. Also we have one thief ally I wouldn't want to have ahold of the staff...

>>27285857

Telepathy has the same range as a person's voice, barring special, specific enhancements.

>>27285855
Far away like in a pocket dimension?

Because it's a really bad idea to leave her without some protection until she regains consciousness.

>>27285879

We need a magical megaphone, gotcha.

>>27285768
Alright, 37 xp.

Let's Buy Pocket,
and then take the staff and put it in our pocket.

>>27285851
To be honest. I see where they're coming from. Of course I feel that character death is a boring and cheap way to establish consequence and is really in the same vein of people who believe a conflict is only interesting if it's life-threatening.

We should have failed to get the staff. That's a much deeper consequence then an ally dying as it would have fucked up everything for a good long while.

>>27285888
I don't know that I'd want the first usage of Pocket on a living being to be on an unconscious, wounded ally.

>>27285768
Using Conceal on her in order to mask her magical signature while we're on our way back might be a good idea, though.

>>27285865
While we are at it we could also get Monstrous vigor and Sleep Gas along with Pocket. Mighty Regen is so close.

>>27285888
I was thinking more like a 100 feet away, so we can blink to her if something happens.

>>27285926
I'd rather go with something more useful for the situation. Like Conceal that lolwut mentioned

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We officially have a century of ability trees.

Taking staff and placing in pocket.

>>27285940

Abigail will be placed at a safe but reasonable distance.

>>27285923
We also don't HAVE Conceal yet, which is something I forgot.

Not sure it's worth the 12 XP purchase at the moment, even if it would be somewhat useful.

>>27285926
I'll second pocket, if we're going to take the staff it would be a good place to keep it safe.

>>27285916
Yeah...Lucifer went down like a chump.

>>27285994
He was near dead. It was a lucky break for sure, maybe even too lucky, but it made sense considering what he tried to pull and how much just the after effects of it fucked us over.

So how many angels left on that top ten list guys?

>>27286041
1) Sandalphon
3) Metatron
4) Raphael
6) Anahita
9) Gabriel
10) Penemue

>>27285967

Do we still have our pouches belt? If so we can pour the contents into the Pocket and keep the belt purely for style.

>>27285967
Army of darkness(5) should be red because we havent bought army of darkness(12) yet

>>27286041
1) Sandalphon
2) Lucifer
3) Metatron
4) Raphael
5) Auriel (before she lost her powers)
6) Anahita
7) Michael
8) Raziel
9) Gabriel
10) Penemue
11) Jophiel
12) Charmeine
13) Qaphsiel
14) Tyrael

We don't even HAVE a Top 10 anymore. We're down to a Top 9 from 14 candidates (Assuming that Auriel and Tyrael being on our side takes them off the list, at least.)

>>27286077
I think the rest of our party was holding on to it.

>>27286077
For as reasonable an idea as this is, I don't feel comfortable putting bits of the Moonsong ANYWHERE near the Nether while David is still running around.

I don't trust our own personal bubble to be able to keep him out if we put his favorite trinket inside it.

You approach the staff.

The air is quiet. The winds are still. The waters of the lake lap gently on the muddy bank, still stirred up from when you used them to your advantage.

You reach a long, thin tendril out and touch the staff.

Nothing happens.

You get a firmer grip and pull it out of the mud with a squelch. You heft the object in your hands. It's as light as a feather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maS186_LLn4

>you've acquired the Staff of Winds

You need a safe place for this - safer than any you've yet had. You channel the power you took from Lucifer into that task. An old sort of memory comes back to you...as if it's something you've done a hundred times before. Your body remembers, even if your mind doesn't.

You open your Pocket, and place the Staff of Winds within it.

>mana: 13/58

What do you do now?

>take Abigail back to the city
>try to look for Adavan (carrying Abigail with you)
>spend a bit more time at the lake, try to recover as much as possible
>some other strategy

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>>27286082

They can know Army of Darkness without you knowing it.

>>27285967
I think it'd be a good idea to start seriously investing in summoning.

That way maybe we'll stop bringing along our allies when it's really inappropriate.

Also, the Call seems like it would really come in handy.

>>27286136
>spend a bit more time at the lake, try to recover as much as possible
>try to look for Adavan (carrying Abigail with you)

>>27286136
>Put Abigal in pocket.
>Take a long route back to the city so we can look for Adavan and still make it in time.

>>27286136
go and find adavan

>>27286136
>spend a bit more time at the lake, try to recover as much as possible
>take Abigail back to the city

Whatever involves the least travel with our injured companion.

>>27286136
>Try to look for Skeletron

>>27286161
The Call only works one way. We also could be using Abby's summons for that instead of dragging her into the frontlines.

>>27286170
Don't let Abigail out of you sight.

>>27286136
>try to look for Adavan (carrying Abigail with you)
Hopefully he's still alive.
...
You know what I mean.

>>27286136
>>try to look for Adavan (carrying Abigail with you)
For a short time. We don't want to risk getting stranded out here at night, even if we think the Erasure creatures might be gone, but if Adavan is in as bad of shape as Abby was post-cyclone, we owe it to him to at least try and see if we can find him.

>some other strategy
Summon up our trusty Wisp and have him help search as well.

>>27286203
True, but we could at least say "Abigail's injured, Lucifer's dead, Staff of Winds is secured. Taking Abigail to City to recover, will then look for you."

Assuming he's not dead, he know knows where we'll be.

>>27286233
Wisp is already summoned but we can send it out.

>>27286133

Man never thought of that.

>>27286136

>take Abigail back to the city

Transform into handsome Arcanium form for extra romance.

>>27286233
>even if we think the Erasure creatures might be gone
I kinda doubt they are. The abomination attacked us during the day, but the lantern guys only came out at night, so I think they're probably separate obstacles.

I was thinking if Abby practised more with her new shadow ability perhaps she could use it to have shadow hand/ tendril like ourself

>>27286136
>try to look for Adavan (carrying Abigail with you)
Take a look about for Adavan. Get to safety before nightfall, though. Even if Adavan is dead, he's got a phylactery - his safety is much easier to ensure than Abby's.

>>27286248
Still needs to be Chosen for that. Which requires 15 EXP and a mana pool. Not something useful for right now.

>>27286276
True enough.

>>27286267
She may be able to replace it with her Banshee hand, but I doubt that's a permanent solution as it probably requires mana and concentration.

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>>27286267

Hey guys, if we're going for adavan then a deep focus would be best right? Rather than just randomly searching.

>>27286362
Agreed. Deep Focus while healing in lake, then head out.

>>27286314
i am perfectly ok with this comparison

Rolled 3, 4 = 7

>>27286136
Try to look for Adavan.

>>27286382
>while healing in lake
What about Abigail?

>>27286362

I'm worried about attracting baddies when Abigail is messed up.

>>27286414
We can hold onto her or just stay within Blink range.

>>27286420
Skysever greatly masks detection and our biggest enemies are gone.

>>27286420
Yeah that doesn't really seem the wisest move, I guess.

So get Abigail to a safe place as soon as possible, and then use Deep Focus?

You order your Wisp to scout the land around you.

>mana: 12/58

You take up Abigail in your arms. She feels so frail.

You can't risk her like that again.

You move toward the city in a long, meandering path, calling for Adavan. Despite your efforts, you can't find him anywhere. Eventually, the shadows grow long. You can't take the risk of being caught alone in the dark. You hurry back to the city.

You find your allies holed up inside a building along the ruined wall. The inside is overgrown with grasses, but they've done a decent job of patching the holes and sealing it up. A temporary fortress to weather the night.

The group is grim when they hear what happened to Adavan. Vonnegut turns pale, and keeps to himself in a lonely corner. Ila takes it stoically. Flint visibly deflates.

Auriel sets to work on Abigail immediately. She does all she can, but Abigail does not awaken. Auriel tells you she could be like that for several days, depending on how much blood she lost, and even afterward she will need time to recover.

She tells you that repairing her lost hand in its entirety would be beyond anything but the capabilities of a team of angelic healers, preferably led by herself - and that it would only possible if the wound was fresh. The stump can never be regenerated.

Her voice is terse as she delivers this information. She doesn't look you in the eye. She isn't happy.

Night falls.

You can hear the sounds of the creatures drifting through the streets, but they don't seem to target your chosen domicile in particular. The group huddles around a few lights created by Auriel and Flint, too stressed and too nervous to fall asleep quickly. You sit near them, alongside Abigail, who is resting on a matted pile of grasses.

Do you say anything to any of your allies?

>write-in

>>27286314
Mai waifu

>>27286465
"I'm a baaaaad elemental."

>>27286465
<This is my fault.>

>>27286491
No shit

>>27286465
Angst about being stupid and causing unnecessary risk.

We often forget that we are much, much more durable than our friends, and it's caused us to put their lives in danger.

Angst. AAAAAAAANGST.

>>27286504
Of course no shit. Time to own up to it.

>>27286465

"Hey Flint. Here's the staff."
Give staff.

>>27286491
Preeeeeetty sure everyone already knows that.

Maybe something productive?

>>27286491
Seconding this.

>>27286536
Nah. We need to actually apologize.

>>27286528
I think we should certainly tell/show them we have the staff. But only after we've apologized.

Though the one that deserves our apology the most is Abigail.

>>27286516
Seconding angst.

>>27286465
Go to the corner and use our control over light to make it really dark. Proceed to sulk in our own self-loathing.

>>27286516
Ugh.

Can we at least accept our failings like a man, and vow to do better?

If we're going to talk, might as well have it be constructive, like how we can be less terrible in the future.

>>27286549
The people we need to apologize to are unconscious and vanished respectively.

But fine, whatever.

>>27286465
<I was afraid she would die right there and then, and it would have been my fault. Everything I hold dear is destroyed around me, and it frightens me>

>>27286577
You kind of have to angst for a little while to get the point across that we know we fucked up and feel really bad about it. Otherwise I agree with you.

>>27286574
Seconding.

>>27286577
Anti'ing.

>>27286465
OH WOW.

Clap clap clap.

>>27286465
>>27286577
<Auriel, you have been in this world far longer than I. You have seen and done more than I can imagine. While I have been treated as the leader of this group, I am far less able to judge the skills and limits of others. Please... don't let me do this again. Don't let me make a mistake like this.>

>>27286577
We have to angst a little bit just to get across that we feel really pretty awful about this whole thing.

But we shouldn't go full on angstpocalypse

>>27286465
<Once the thought that I will outlast everyone around me occurred to me. It really scared me, but not as much as the realization that because of me, it might come very soon>

>>27286616
Now that's actually believable.

>>27286599
Eh, good to see what we CAN write out, if we choose to talk about it.
Might be good, and if it isn't we can choose to sulk instead. It's good to explore options.

>>27286465
Tell them that we have the staff and we should find a way back to the surface. 1)Because we have what we came for and 2) The urge to make this not a floating island anymore is rising.

AKA Fuck this island.

>>27286616
Bueno, you've outdone yourself sir.

Supporting.

>>27286616
Yes, also this. We might not really need a moral compass, but we damn sure need a stupidity compass.

>>27286594
>>27286632
Eehh these seem a bit much.

>>27286616
This seems solid.

>>27286659
Shadow is not really mature. So far we have played as if everyone else was made of just as hard stuff as he himself.

We really have disregarded the fragility of our friends.

>>27286616
The first line is alright, second is too needy. Like ask for guidance and advice, not... that.

Even though we're blatantly unqualified, we're still unfortunately the leader.

>>27286687
And? I think sorry's text gets that point across better than the whiny-likeneds.

>>27286633
Second. Most of these would be good to insert into conversation in fact. /tg/ vows to be more tactically minded.

>>27286577
>If we're going to talk, might as well have it be constructive, like how we can be less terrible in the future.
This is a reasonable point.

We're sort of stuck at that point where we know that everything we do is going to be dangerous, and also sort of know that we're not able to do it alone.

So we're stuck in a position where we know that if we try to keep our allies at arm's tendrils' length, eventually we're going to come up against something that outmatches us. But every time we

Maybe ask Auriel about her earlier days in command, and how she came to terms with the fact that her orders might lead to her comrades' injury or even death, but how her people would follow them regardless out of duty, camaraderie or both.

As much as we would love to have hundreds of years to amass the kind of knowledge we'd need to know the right thing to do, we really don't have that luxury, and we don't want our own inexperience to bring any more harm to our friends.

>>27286649
Should probably make a better attempt to find Adavan?

>>27286616

for that sorry I almost forgive you for rolling that 1.

>>27286616
Seems a bit much to me as we will do doing things she is going to deem stupid. Maybe just have her remind us when we come up with plans that they aren't as durable as we are.

>>27286733
>But every time we
lel

But every time we ask others to help us, it puts them at risk.

>>27286733
I too vouch for making our little speech constructive.

>>27286749
>>27286703
It's open to improvement. I welcome you to edit or replace the second line (and/or the first if it needs it) - this is collaborative, yo.

If Adavan is a Lich shouldn't he have his phylactery stashed someplace hidden?

>>27286733
See now THIS I can get behind.
>>27286735
Of course, but after that we should focus on getting out of here...Though there is that pesky darkness that we might have to deal with.

So when are we going to bring up the fact that Xile might fall right onto Haven if the sky-sever gets whacked with out present allies?

>>27286790
He probably does. Still sucks though and leaving him behind just because of that is a very callous move.

>>27286733
A solution could be to heavily invest in summoning, automatons etc.

If we dump enough EXP we should get things that don't suck soon enough.

>>27286790
He does, I asked SM last thread if he had a phylactery to be double-sure. He does. Adavan will be fine. Dying probably hurts, but he'll reform.

>>27286733
Good. This is what we should try to communicate - now we need to form this into words. Or we can just let SM do it, I guess.

>>27286862
I trust SM with dialogue more.

>>27286862
>Or we can just let SM do it, I guess
Probably for the best.

>>27286826
Searching past nightfall would endanger us too greatly. We're barely moving, and we've seen what the monsters here can do to us.
If we die, everyone dies.
If Adavan dies, he respawns.
We tried as best we could ithout risk the lives of everyone else.

>>27286826
Yeah that's why we should dedicate a good amount of time to trying to track him down.

I'd say it's worth using Deep Focus when a safe distance from our allies?

>>27286902
We can still look later. You don't just leave a guy behind because you assume he's dead.

>>27286834
We could buy Automaton and Machina Vita with the points we have now, but let's hold off until we're off this rock. The good news is that realistically puts us a lot closer to dwarven level defenses for Haven and possibly Dynamo creation.

I hope SM is typing.
If only because he can't facepalm while he types.

Could the staff of winds create a protective cyclone around us so we may be able to "jump" off of Xile in a protected ball of magic if the sky-sever is still a thing when we leave?

>>27286984
This staff controls the air. It can make air do anything.

Thing is, we'd roll so low it would cause everyone to die.

>>27287023
Well SM wouldn't make us roll for...
uhh..
who on our side would even be good with the staff? flint isn't even windborne..

<...this is my fault.>

"We know that," Auriel snaps. "She doesn't have a hand because of you, Shadow. Adavan, at least, has a phylactery, but without his power and experience, our job here just became that much harder."

"Well, at least he got the staff," Flint says weakly.

"What does it matter if we all die in the process?!"

"I chose to follow Shadow," Ila says sharply. "I knew the risks. So did the girl."

"You're hardly more than a girl yourself," Auriel says. "All of you are young idiots that think you can rule the world with a snap of your fingers - because you can do a few magic tricks. Because you're the largest fish in your little ponds. I have seen the face of real power, and it does not suffer human life." Auriel turns to you. "Didn't Adavan say anything before you went in that damn cyclone? Didn't he tell you to turn back?"

<...he was hesitant.>

"But he trusted you," she said, "and you were wrong."

<Auriel...> You put your hands on your face. <You couldn't be more right. I'm sorry.>

Auriel, in the middle of drawing breath for another shout, hesitates. She lets it out slowly. "...sorry won't fix her hand, Shadow," she says quietly. "Sorry won't bring people back from the dead."

<...your experience vastly outweighs my own. While I feel that I've been leading us...you are more capable, both in skill and in your judgement of our limitations. Please...don't let me do this again.> You turn, and take in the sight of Abigail. Her hair is splayed messily across the ground. Her face is tight with some fevered dream. "I can't make this kind of mistake again. I can't. I won't."

>con't

>>27287045
Flint should be Windborne though. I think the parasite is suppressing his wind magic.

The room is silent for a long time.

"...I've never heard your real voice," Auriel says. "I didn't realize you had one."

<What?>

"Is that what you really look like, then?" Ila asks.

You realize they're all staring at you. You glance down. You're sitting in your human form. It takes a moment before you realize you spoke aloud, as well.

"You finally let your guard down," Vonnegut says. You glance at him. The fat man rubs his chin. "I'm surprised someone as cold-blooded as you would get so worked up about this."

"Stop acting as if you know Shadow," Flint says. "You have no idea what he's been through."

"...hmph. I know he killed and...consumed...my crew."

"They probably deserved it."

"So you consider Shadow the arbiter of right and wrong, then?" Vonnegut asks. "Who died and made him the final judge of human life?"

Ila throws you a hidden glance. You know what she's thinking - as Erebus, you actually have some claim to that line of thought. Your existence is greater than a human soul.

The thought bothers you. You can't even judge your closest allies properly.

"I'm not going to sit here and be lectured on morality by a -slaver-," Flint says.

"That's enough, both of you," Auriel says. They both mutter curses under their breath, but fall quiet.

---------
---------

>con't

>>27287059
>"...sorry won't fix her hand, Shadow," she says quietly. "Sorry won't bring people back from the dead."
Damnit Sorry, you just aren't good enough for this quest. Look, SM's calling you out in the story posts themselves.

Time passes. Most of the party falls asleep. Auriel is awake, though.

<...Highest.>

"...hearing my title from you sounds wrong in the extreme."

<Sorry.>

"Don't be. Just call me Auriel."

<Yeah.> You rub the back of your neck - your actual neck. <I don't have the luxury of centuries,> you say to her, <and I'm at a loss. Human life is delicate. Now I realize there are some things that only I can do. But without help, I fear I'll run across an obstacle that I cannot defeat alone. How can I reconcile these two facts? When you led troops in the war...how did you live with that responsibility? How did you deal with it?>

Auriel looks at you for a long time. "You don't deal with it, Shadow. You don't live with it. It happens, and then you just keep going, and try not to let it happen again." She turns back toward the light. It isn't a fire; it provides illumination, but no warmth. "I'm sorry I was short with you. The anger I directed your way earlier...is the same anger I feel toward myself every day." She glances back. "Involving normal people in conflicts of the scale only you and I can appreciate will inevitably get them killed. It's as simple as that. There is just too much magic, too much raw mana being thrown around. One false move, and those without the power to survive - or the skill to do something about it - are obliterated."

<...I see.>

>con't

>>27287087
I'm sorry :<
Sorry won't stop the 1's, though

>>27287126
You're forgiven. It's not your fault.

"You can leave your allies behind," she says. Her voice becomes more quiet. Her eyes stare at the flickering lights. Little reflective points sit in her eyes, dancing with the tiny spell. "Go it alone. Put the burden on your shoulders. If you aren't strong enough, you will break, but at least no one else will die. I wouldn't have survived the guilt of 700 years if I didn't do that. A lot of us didn't. It isn't public knowledge, but many angels have taken their own lives. We aren't meant to live so long. Maybe that's why things are the way they are. Only those of us hard and cold enough to take it are still around. We can't survive without something to blame. And how can you change - how can you admit you're wrong after using half the elements as your political and personal scapegoat for so long?"

She brushes her hair back behind an ear. "You recall when I faced the demon lord. I left my allies on the ship; I went alone. Such is the fate of those with great power. The power itself isolates us. The responsibility isolates us. That is life."

Do you say anything to Auriel in response, or ask her any questions?

>write-in

>>27287155
GAWHDAWMN

I need to call a dialoguefriend.

>>27287155
>Such is the fate of those with great power. The power itself isolates us. The responsibility isolates us. That is life.
<Jeez, I didn't know you and Erebus had so much in common!>

don't say this, please don't actually say this

>>27287155
<And what if that power goes beyond just simply being stronger than someone else?>

>>27287198
We actually should break the news at some point...

>>27287236
I was just about to mention this. We should segue into this with our response.

>>27287155
<I guess that's what we're fighting for then. To stop things like this happening to regular people. To stop it from happening to anyone.>
I kind of think that now is the time to reveal that we are the remnants of Erebus. Now we could unveil that we are something new.

>>27287198
Seconding this.

>>27287267
Without Abby to defend us? Weeeellll.... okay.

Auriel will probably still not believe us though.

Breaking news?

Y/N

>>27287319
Y

>>27287319
Y

>>27287198
Maybe tool it into something like
<Erebus thought similarly.>
Or something equally neutral. And then MAYBE share our archonium... filtered... experiences.

>>27287319
Y

But segue into that reeeaally tactfully.

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>>27287319
Y

>>27287155
>>27287198
This said, I feel like this might actually be the right moment to tell her about the our Erebus connection.

Erebus distanced himself from those that would call themselves his allies, partly because deep down he thought they were a blight, but also because he only wanted to rely on his own strength. Temerity said as much when telling us why Humanity was a weakness.

We're trying to be different, we really are, but if all she has to say to us is "maybe you should just go it alone", it has to sting.

We don't WANT to go it alone. Having friends and allies shouldn't just make us weaker; force us to shelter and protect them exclusively. If all she has to tell us is that keeping allies close like this is the wrong thing to do, then she's wrong too, and we're going to try and find another way to do things. Because otherwise, what was the point of going against our programming in the first place.

>>27287319
Y.

>>27287155
I'm not much of a dialogue person, but really I just want to change back to our "normal" form.

>>27287319
>Y
<The power may isolate us, but we always have the power to choose. I choose to attempt to end this madness.>

>>27287319
Y

>>27287319
Y
Tell everything we learned. it makes so much sense.

>>27287155
I'd like to thank her, for her honesty.

>>27287319
>>27287341
>>27287342
>>27287345
>>27287353
>>27287359


really to everyone in the room you bunch of knob gobblers?

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>>27287155
<I should have listened to you. About a lot of things. You were right, about magic. About my nature, even if for the wrong reasons.
But I will not go it alone - I cannot make my decisions in a vaccuum. But I can call on the experience of others who know far more of this world than I do... if they're still willing to stick around and give it.>

Or we could say nothing, if we feel like this is enough.

Also, maybe she's right about this anceint-evil-sword-thing. I still want to try to reforge it with Humanity... but maybe think about it.

>>27287375

The information will be delivered telepathically.

It seems we have a strong consensus.

Writing.

>>27287319
N N N N N N N N N

Why are we telling her this when we're in a situation where emotions are running incredibly high and everybody is very tensely strung.

Also, Flint is one of our best friends and all but really I think he should cut Vonnegut some slack. He may be a slimeball, but he is going to be OUR slimeball.

>>27287375
What? Absolutely not.

Just to Auriel right now. Telespeak.

>>27287359
This, touch on these points SM.

>>27287375
you do have a point it might not be smartest to tell Vonnegut

>>27287319
Oh, well, nevermind me. Man, I take forever to type up responses.

>>27287380

>>27287393
The paladin has free reign to rail on the slavery of a penguin, Captain.

Are you drunk again?

>>27287380
Holy christ I've been glazing over some pretty huge fucking warnings.

Yeah, let's rethink the end it all sword. Contextual hints abound.

>>27287380

its a sword that makes things disappear and shoots shadow beams we want it.

>>27287474
This is the kind of player that will get us killed.

>>27287380
That "what she doesn't know can't hurt her" line is just so blatantly suspicious I'd almost suspect reverse psychology. But maybe you're right Sorry.

>>27287474
Yeah, nah. More EXP is a much better option then that shit. Eat it.

>>27287486
Rather, will get everyone but us killed.

>>27287434
>Yeah, let's rethink the end it all sword. Contextual hints abound.
I think we should reforge it with Humanity. That seems to be the direction with Shadow, and it seems to be our way of fixing the world. We'll take all of Erebus's awesome might, all of his darkness, and we'll remake it into something a little bit brighter. We'll be shadow. We'll do what right what Erebus did wrong. We'll take what he built and then shattered, and we'll reforge it into something better. I'm not even talking about just the sword at this point. He did the same thing to the world and to himself. We're fixing all of it through the use of our humanity.

>>27287474
Once, I would have agreed with you. Now? Now I think it's too much of a risk. I mean, it's freaking LEGION'S sword. If we completely fix it, he might just decide that he wants it back.

>>27287412
True, but Vonnegut has expressed that he is going to move away from that business entirely no doubt thanks to a certain shadow. I'm just saying he doesn't have to remind us every time the guy speak that he was a slaver.

>>27287380
I'm still pretty sure I want that sword the way it is.

>>27287507
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that humanity can reforge anything but the shards within ourselves, it's a nice idea, but I'd prefer eating it as a safer possibility.
Assuming that it doesn't summon our ex-husbando upon completion and is also actually consumable without it erasing us after it's been completed.

>>27287524
Vonnegut is not a friend or a party member; just a temporary ally. Don't forget that.

>>27287507
Yeah, I want to see what it becomes after a Humanity reforge. If it's still the embodiment of destruction i.e. we roll shitty/it isn't possible, I would vote to eat it.

>>27287486

we can go on the adventure to get the pieces alone and keep it in our little pocket dimension until we need to use it.

>>27287524
>>27287545
Captain you are drunk.

<Auriel...I have to tell you something. Abigail knows...and Ila...and Adavan. No one else.>

Auriel looks up from the light and blinks at you. "...what is it?"

<...I learned something about myself in the Archonium. I...> You steel yourself. <I am Erebus.>

Auriel says nothing.

You explain to her the details - the shards, the plan to break himself and then recombine to finish the job. Your battle against Temerity, your embracing of Humanity. And finally, your goal to be different, to be better. To become greater than what you were.

<So you see...> You glance at her awkwardly. After turning back to the lights while listening to your story, she still hasn't looked back at you. She still hasn't said anything. <Erebus isolated himself. I don't know all his reasons for that...but he thought he was different than everyone else. He insisted on relying only on his own strength, all the way to his...near-death. I can't do the same. I need you. I need Sir Flint, and Abigail, and Ila, and Adavan, and Obis...you have to keep me grounded. I'm afraid that if I don't have you, I'll lose something. I'll stay back toward what I was.>

"I tried so hard to convince myself that wasn't the case," she whispers. "I really wanted to believe you weren't..." She rubs a hand on her forehead. "What the hell. Dear Light, what the fucking hell."

<I'm not going to be like him,> you say. <He broke the world. He broke the great lords. He broke himself. But in the remaking...something got in. My Humanity has allowed me introspection. I am different. I will be different. I won't make his mistakes. I...will love.> You glance at Abigail. <I will never do what he did.>

Auriel looks at you. "Alright," she says. "Prove it."

<...yes?>

"In the morning, we'll have Flint use the staff to breach the skysever," she says. "Then you can fly us out. But you leave the shards of that thing behind." She points at your satchel. "Leave the old magic where it belongs. Start with a clean slate."

>write-in

>>27287564
Oh yes, it'll totally be safe in the Nether where it's original owner is.

>>27287551
Of course he isn't, but he still has his uses.

>>27287524
>>27287551
He stopped trading in slaves. When we told him to, even though it's cost him much of his business.
It's been shown that much of what he does is done under the pressure of the Angels.
He betrayed those Angels, and great personal risk, to side with us.

I'd call him ally. Not a good person, but an ally.

>>27287590

Someone remind me...

Have we told Flint that Shadow is Erebus?

For some reason it's not coming to mind.

>>27287583
consume the shards right now.

>>27287583
<How about I just eat it so it isn't something that can be found again?>

>>27287583
Understand my hesitation with leaving a nearly assembled moonsong in one place. I will leave two pieces here, and in future places you deem suitable.

>>27287583
>"In the morning, we'll have Flint use the staff to breach the skysever," she says. "Then you can fly us out. But you leave the shards of that thing behind." She points at your satchel. "Leave the old magic where it belongs. Start with a clean slate."
If we're going to start with a clean slate then I'm going to do something a little bit better than leaving them behind where any fool with a desire for power can pick them up.

<I'll Erase them>

>>27287583
<I have a better idea, I'll remove it from this world altogether.>
>consume shards

>>27287605
Nope. it just hasn't come up.

>>27287605
Not to my recollection

>>27287583

<Fine. But I'm keeping the satchel.>

>>27287583

ask her if we can at least consume the pieces

>>27287583
If by "leave" you mean consume the shard then yes.

>>27287605
We have not yet said so SM.

In fact, he's the last of our friends to know.
I guess in character we


really don't have much of an excuse for that

It seems clear we're going to suggest that you consume the thing altogether.

>>27287646

best line confirmed

But what about the shards you have on you?

>consume them immediately
>wait until you complete the sword, then consume it

I get the feeling that we shouldn't Consume the shards. Just this once we need to not take these things in. If we're going to start with a clean slate, then let's sacrifice to do it.

>>27287605

nope

>>27287583
Consume shards, acquire more Earth skills. Let's put that EXP into something that can build and protect people, not obliterate them.

>>27287605
Strangely enough we have yet to tell him. I'm sure it will be interesting when we say that everyone knew except him.

>>27287583
>Consume shards

>>27287632
Yummers in my tummers

>>27287664
>consume them immediately.
We have NO idea where the hilt is.

>>27287583
Eat it. This island has fucking natives on it. I'm not leaving something like that lying around. Plus, I think just leaving Xile on it's own because of some bad shit you want to forget is dumb.

>>27287664
Eat what we have now. No use risking something bad happening when it's complete.

>>27287664
>consume them immediately

>>27287583
<They... Contain power that is a part of me. I can't risk someone finding them a hundred, or thousand years later. I'll consume them, and never make such a thing again.>

>>27287676
<Oh, by the way Flint, we're Erebus. It's a long story, and I don't want to tell it again. Just go ask Auriel for the details. Or Ila, or Abigail, or Adavan, or...>

>>27287664
Ahh this is a landmine.
But... let's eat it.

Consuming them now means someone can't steal it from us after we complete it and try to consume it

>>27287605
idk im pretty sure i remember telling him. it could have been abby but pretty sure it was flint. he just had a good reaction, faith in us, probably why you don't remember.

>>27287664
>consume them immediately
But one shard at a time. We dont want to take a mouth full of reality erasing razors

>>27287664
>>wait until you complete the sword, then consume it

We will no doubt get more for the whole thing.

>>27287726
I think we told him we were Erebus way back during the first few threads and he pretty much believed it from then on.

>>27287726
If we did it was probably right after the archonium, I guess someone will have to archive binge for it.

>>27287739
Ooohhhhh

THIS

THIS

good catch, only pop one pill at a time to see it's effects
and for dramatic tension in front of auriel

>>27287749
Yes thats when I remember it happening. Theres enough discussion on it though, SM will clarify in meta.

>>27287772
While in human form.
"I can eat glass and it doesn't hurt at all."

>>27287739

We should drink Dark Magic Pool water while doing that. It'll be like mentos and cola!

>>27287666
Not that I disagree with the symbolism, but I'm just gonna straight up talk about meta here.

We've been building this fucking sword for sixty-five threads. Our reward was gonna be a sword of ass-kicking. If we're going to give up our sword of ass-kicking, we're getting SOME reward out of it, mechanically. And not some pussy philosophical "the value of friendship" reward.

Alternatively, we could reforge it into a hammer. Those can be used for building, right?

>>27287749
We didn't. He obviously knew something was up but we just never had the time to approach the subject with him like everyone else. Too caught up in getting the staff and such.

<I have a better idea,> you say. <I'll erase them so that they are never used again.>

Auriel nods. "Do it."

You withdraw the shards from your satchel...they hum with power, and align themselves into the shape of the completed blade.

"...I always wondered what it said," Auriel states.

<The Song of the Moon, the Void Twixt Stars,> you read. <The Destruction of Chaos.>

You roil over the blade, extending the inner tendrils with which you strip flesh and consume souls.

It doesn't dissolve.

You press harder, but the sword resists you. It's like trying to chew a rock. You simply can't break it down.

"What's wrong?"

<...I can't...> You press once more, then draw back. <I can't consume it.>

She sighs. "I see. Well...guard it carefully. We can separate the pieces once more when we have time. Preferably at the bottom of the sea."

What do you do now?

>say something else to Auriel
>meditate to pass the night
>stake awake, keep watch

>>27287815
I can see it now Sorry.

We reforge the erasure sword into... THE HAMMER OF HUMANITY!

And suddenly all those angels look like nails.

>>27287828
Fuckin' knew it.

Let's meditate on Ardor, we made him awfully weak.

>>27287828
>stay awake, keep watch

>>27287828
We're going to have to Erase the sword to truly be rid of it.

>>27287828
>meditate to pass the night
Fucking damn sword.

Meditate on Ardor.

>>27287828
<Something I can't eat. This disturbs and troubles me.>

Meditate. Maybe on Hunger, obviously he's too weak.
But no, meditate on Isolation. He's tied for weakest.

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>>27287828
WE CAN'T EAT IT?!

OH MY FUCKING GOD COCKTEASE SHADOW MASTER I'VE NEVER ORGASMED SO HARD AT BEING TROLLED 10FUCKINGSLASH10 GODDAMN

Meditate on a shard perhaps.

>>27287828
Hold the shards and meditate on THEM

fuckin shards.

>>27287875
Not true, once completed we can probably absorb it back into our essence. It was forged from a part of us.

>>27287828
>>meditate to pass the night
I'd like to see if its possible to meditate on Shadow. We could only control the darkness the creature lobbed because of him. Id like to change that if possible. Meditate on the essence of shadow, rather than a shard?

Also, SM, I just browsed the archives, and I'm pretty damn certain that we didn't tell Flint about it. It just kind of failed to happen in the craziness of leaving the Archonium.

>>27287851
But what would the effect be? If it's a point-blank aoe erasure or anything of that kind, it won't exactly be any better than the sword, because it's still basically simply a tool of pure, permanent destruction.

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>>27287865
Oh, right. I forgot that we used him up, and only referenced the first post.

Changing my vote to back Ardor meditation.

>>27287828
>>stake awake, keep watch

>>27287828
Thank Auriel then meditate on Ardor. It needs it and we can't risk anything.