This is it, the end of Citadel...you hope. The plan is to leak the location of the Heart to Kingfisher, and follow him to it. Then jump him, create the Grand Seal using the Lantern Mirrors, which will allow you take control of Citadel and all its power. Then, as a group (To help fight off any temptation that kind of power would give) ease Citadel, and all of its people, back into the real world, while releasing the souls trapped within it.

Shadow Company will be your back up, incase you need an instant army. The Rouge Birds, defected spies from Kingfisher's camp, will be your back-up to help neutralize Kingfisher and his loyal flunkies.

This plan has so many things that can go wrong you're not sure to start the list alphabetically, chronologically, or by severity. Still, it's the best Dawnchaser plan you can come up with that can (hopefully) prevent any more lives from being lost.

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>>27049411

LAMIA QUEST

>>27049528
We're going to become a collective consciousness aren't we?

>>27049552
Yep. And on that note, I was thinking we should go into the Citadel Heart with a Morning Star from Beacon.

"Even in the darkest of places, we shall not be in need of Light."

>>27049552
Instrumentality, go go go!

>>27049552
Poor everyone else in our group...

{Alright,} Sun says. {The Freed say that Kingfisher and his people have regrouped in the Feast of Fall. The Newgate there isn't in the castle, the place is passive, and the lure of food is easy enough to dodge. They'll enter the Castle there.}

"I want to know more about Wakari, real quick." Lea says. "Teo-Has has no bones, or close enough to it, what can he do? What's more, how's Kingfisher in a fight?"

"What, you don't think they'll just surrender?" Cai says. "Wakari's got this trick he does with numbers, area attacks are your best bet. I've seen the guy dodge crossbow bolts, and nearly every combat form. That or make it so he can't see, feel, smell, or hear your attacks. He dodges almost everything, he barely needs to think about it now. Oh, he'll also wield this dinky looking dagger, not even poisoned, but he does that trick with numbers again, and if he hits, he'll hit an artery or that one gap in your armor."

{Kingfisher...never seen him in a fight.} Sun says. {Though I know he can use magic. I think. Dao?}

She nods. {He can tap into magic reserves. But I've never seen him do anything with it, not even the basic trick of a static electricity generated bolt.}

"So we have no idea what he can do." Cai says. "We always did his fighting for him."

"Do you want us to take Fall over?" Janos asks. "Or should we just move in and try to hide?"

- Stay in Past and wait for Freed to open passage? - Odette writes.

"I thought you couldn't reach the Silver City." Mari says.

Odette reaches underneath her blindfold, and pulls something out. She hands you a white marble. - Follow that, you go, I can follow, keep way open. -

"That safe?" Tricia asks.

- No. -

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>>27049552
>>27049571
>>27049650
>>27049658


How is this a bad thing?

Oh man time for LlllAMIAQUEST.

Loose ends which I feel -need- to be dealt with:

Old one's hoard of souls
slavery in orc town
the potential extinction of all nonhumans

The only thing I feel okay asking about using citadel for, though, is freeing the old one's hoard. Soul freeing is soul freeing, right?

>>27049700
>avoid the potential extinction of all nonhumans
This is what I'd use Citadel for.

Old One needs to start his own megacorp. The fantasy version of Standard Oil and later the Shadowrun version of Weyland Yutani.

As for the orcs, perhaps time will change their culture.

>>27049665
"Making an open offensive with the Shadow Company will only alert Kingfisher even faster. I can handle Kingfisher but the other two should non-fatally dealt with. I can coat weapons in black for whomever wants to face Teo and Wakari as I suspect the latter would especially need slowing down."

>>27049797
>more efficient
Try arguably cheating. That bastard will ignore our success rolls.

>>27049665
okay, time for first dialogue. Let's rumble.

"Well, I guess now isn't the time to be worrying so much about personal safety. Wait, is it not safe for us, or for YOU? Because if it's the former, then sure, we'll use this instead of having the shadow company follow directly."

"Anyway, hopefully we'll avoid fighting with kingfisher's people, but thanks for the tips. Never know when they might try for some combat. It will be a shame if we ruin the food in the process. Man, I hope they just have gross desserts and things, or the feast is gonna be a tricky one."

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>>27049778

I agree. Slavery is an institution, and institutions arise out of cultural doctrine and necessity, neither of which can be removed quickly. The best way to have the orcs abandon slavery is to make the slaves unnecessary. And that will take a while.

As for Old One...well...pic related?

Throwing this out there so it's not a big surprise later:

How about we just tell kingfisher of our plan of letting him go in first and then beating him there? It's still advantageous for him to do it, since he'll get his shot at the heart, and it's still advantageous for us, since we'll get to stop him and have our own shot at stopping citadel.

Also, it's just sportsmanlike to give him a chance to get traps and such ready.

>>27049860
Exactly what I had in mind.
And, in centuries prior, he sat in a gigantic office that rivaled Gendo's sporting an oddly undersized top hat.
He killed you if you made fun of the hat.

>>27049860
>>27049778
I'm fine with old one owning a megacorp, but what about his ETERNALLY TORMENTED SOUL PILE?

Maybe we can barter him out of it or something. Maybe he likes gambling.

>>27049888
Trade him soma for the soul rock He gets to play with some gods until they decide to do their damn job/pass on and we get to release some puny mortals.
>>27049778
>>27049860
Old One was planning on taking over the Orcs anyways, I say tell him to employ them on commission. They seem to like that idea and everyone wins

>>27049940
I think he was actually just planning on robbing the orks territory blind of gold deposits. I mean, he literally rips gold out of the ground.

Oh, and we DON'T want the rock the souls are stored in. Since that rock is gold. It would make the trade a LOT pricier for us, and we'd get a lot of worthless gold along with the souls, when really all we need is freed souls.

I'd suggest trying to convince him to interact more with the rest of the world, starting the megacorp and all, but it doesn't really matter as that's going to be offscreen.

>>27049986
Use the rock to fund something. Besides, we are trading gods and godlings, one of whom is one of the people Old One really hates and is the leader of them.

>>27049869
He'd probably assume he's being used as bait.

The real test will be tricking him into thinking we aren't.

We hear his plan for a good ten minutes before offering a brief critique or editing, he counters, and then we act like we were convinced and will let him go through with it.
He's going to be mad when he finds out we don't support the entire idea of having some kind of artificial god deciding what's just and what's unjust.

The genetics thing I'm willing to cave for. That doesn't establish a god, it's just a one time change. If it uses souls to do it, then no.

oh, and one more issue:
We need to get married with tricia once this is done. Real married, not fake dragon married. With a wedding dress and everything.

I propose tricia be the one wearing the suit, because we can't wear pants.

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>>27050115
>Ssai and Ssah as flower girls

>>27050133
fund it.

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>>27050115

>lamia in a wedding dress

WHAT IS THIS FEELING

>>27050115
>>27050234
I pity whoever has to hold up the train...and I really pity whoever has to sew it.

Meanwhile, in the real world, everyone is watching curiously as Ssen spaces out, smiling vacantly at Tricia.

>>27050234
You are now realizing that a proper train for such a dress would be around 20 feet long.

>>27050319
It would cover our last stated length

"Well, I guess now isn't the time to be worrying so much about personal safety. Wait, is it not safe for us, or for YOU?" You ask.

Odette nods.

"I hate it when people do that." Mage says. "It's not as clever you think it is."

- You willing to risk life. So am I. Still Paladin. My duty. My choice. Aware of danger, still doing it. -

"Alright, making an open offensive with the Shadow Company will only alert Kingfisher even faster. So, go with that plan." You say as you pocket the marble. "But be CAREFUL, for His Light's sake. Ideally, we'll avoid fighting with kingfisher's people, but thanks for the tips. I can coat weapons in black for whomever wants to face Teo and Wakari as I suspect the latter would especially need slowing down."

"He's not really fast, but he moves just enough so that he's not there when you stab at him." Cai says.

{He claims it's all numbers and math.} Sun says. {But, we're waisting time. Anything else or other preparations you think we could put together before we start?}

>>27049415
>hen, as a group (To help fight off any temptation that kind of power would give) ease Citadel, and all of its people, back into the real world, while releasing the souls trapped within it.

I'm reminded of Mythal creation though in reverse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythal

>>27050424
How long has it been since last time? How big was our lunch?
{Well, we could always have another lunch. Less chance of temptation and all that. Otherwise, we're as prepared as we're going to be. Gonna be weird fighting without clang.}
"How bout you folks? Any last minute things that need doing before we go out there again? I usually ask for explosives in this situation, but I don't think we really need explosives this time, and I try to ignore the thought that we'll -always- need explosives."

>>27050424
"Yeah, do you know of how exactly Citadel Golems are powered? Is it internal or does the Citadel have some sort of special room that it uses to feed you magic?"

I don't want to get surprised by this sidequest later. Shit, I hope it doesn't even exist. If the golems are self powered, that'd be one less thing to worry about.

>>27050561
Lunch is good. Better to walk into Fall on a full stomach.

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>>27049700
>using Citadel more than strictly necessary.

Bad idea. Very bad idea. Using Citadel to fix anything in the outside world would pretty much make us no better than Kingfisher. We start down that road and I very doubt we'd be able to stop.

Besides, even if we are retiring after this (Ssah and Ssai need us, after all), there will be other heroes. We can leave things to the next generation and help guide them just like Granny helped guide us.

>>27050582
maybe we'll tell Isen to fix the old one thing and the slavery thing. See how he deals with a pali-crisis.

>>27050582
Kingfisher wants to establish a divine karma system to fix social problems.
We wouldn't be doing that if we fixed the genetics problem. We'd already be using Citadel to ensure no casualties. Saying "we shouldn't use it at all" is automatically hypocritical.

>>27050424
Right, so Wakari can manipulate probability?

Makes you wonder why he didn't use it on us in the courtroom. I think that we naturally screw probability enough that his power is negated.

>>27050636
actually, I think we'd be using it specifically for in-citadel actions, nothing in the outside world.

Just enough to reverse the wall-procedure without collapsing it.

There -will- be casualties. Have you forgotten the sheer population of citadel? Starvation is immediately a problem.

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>>27050424
>{He claims it's all numbers and math.}
Oh goddamnit.

>>27050748
fffffuuuUUUUUCK how did I not notice.

I'm still of the mind we tell them our plan though, since he has enough reason to go into the castle even without us tricking him.

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>>27050748

Quickquick can solve this problem, i bet. Would probably look like pic related.

>>27050636
IT. IS. POWERED. BY. SOULS!

Do you WANT to us to become the new Dramatae? Because using Citadel to mess with nature and prevent any change that would make the world less interesting to us sure seems like a Dramatae thing to do. Add in the fact that we aren't sure if doing so would permanently destroy multiple souls; the fact that Robin, Ryan, Jesse, Odette, and mom are among those souls; and our debts to the aforementioned. Still think using Citadel to fix what we don't like about the world is a good idea?

>>27050834
We don't know if that uses souls. Kingfisher's plan allegedly doesn't.

However, if it does use souls, then I agree completely.

>>27050834
>>27050853
even if it doesn't use souls, I'm of the mind that we only use it for the intended use of shutting down citadel. I want to minimize all possibilities of neo-dramatae.
>>27050829
we're going to be fighting them eventually, according to both plans. It's going to be interesting, to say the least.

>>27050853
His plan allegedly wouldn't sacrifice the people LIVING in Citadel. He said nothing about the souls of the dead and it would foolishly optimistic to just assume that Mr. Master of Deceit meant them too.

>>27050748

On the plus side, he might be able to get some of our leviathan jokes

>>27050983
>break his concentration with math jokes
Let's do it.

>>27050580
shit, REAL good question.

How does odette work? We want to help her.

>>27051001
I cannot comprehend math jokes

>>27051001
I find this to be a positively great idea.

No. No, away from the keyboard now. I'm not going to start this again.

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>>27051023

"Yeah, do you know of how exactly Citadel Golems are powered? Is it internal or does the Citadel have some sort of special room that it uses to feed you magic?" You ask.

Odette shrugs. - Didn't want to poke too deeply. Might lose self. Go back to being Worker. -

"Well, we should probably have some food first, just to make sure we aren't tempted." You sigh. "Going to be weird fighting without Clang."

"We have other shields that are the same size as your old one." Janos says. "One or two have a little quicksilver as well...but I get it. Wouldn't be the same, would it?"

You nod. "But is there anything you need to do? Maybe we need explosiv-"

"NO." Tricia says.

"But we almost ALWAYS need explosives." You say.

"Blowing up Citadel might mean that we're blowing up more than masonry." Mage says. "Remember what this place is made of."

>>27051059
"Fine. Geez. It's just they always seem to solve so many things. Explosives aside, we'll have to keep an eye out for anything about the freed's whole situation while we're inside. Light knows what monkeying around in there will do to them, hopefully nothing bad. Lot more hopefullies and maybies in this plan than usual, we'll have to be on our toes."

Damn my general lack of forethought, having a good idea for things to bring along or do right now would be marvelous.

>>27051059
"...Yeah, good point. But we should still bring a few along, just in case we really DO end up needing them. I'll be extremely careful with them."

>>27051059
"I'd rather have them and not use them than not have them and need them."

Ssen's friends: Keep Ssen away from explosives, molotovs, and flammables when possible.

>>27051278
That reminds me.

We never got the guns we wanted

"Geez...good point. They just seem to be able to solve so many things. But we should still bring a few along, just in case we really DO end up needing them. I'll be extremely careful with them." You say.

"I'll whip up a few bang stones." Peri says. "They won't be blackpowder bombs, but we just don't have the stuff for that."

"What about oil bombs?" Mage asks.

"We've got lantern oil, and alcohol, and a few other things, but nothing as effective as the orc's black oil." Mari says. "But I suppose anything helps, right?"

Roll 2d8

Rolled 1, 5 = 6

>>27051345
sheeeeeit

Rolled 4, 5 = 9

>>27051345

Rolled 6, 5 = 11

>>27051345
Rollan

>>27051323
no, we never did. Oh well.

>>27051437
>>27051323
well, we COULD steal some from war on second thought.

But what are the chances they have a bandolier of pistols just lying around?

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Rolled 6, 8 = 14

>>27051437
>>27051520
I wonder if we could dual wield a pistol and beacon. We could use the pistols as a parrying dagger if we stuck a bayonet on it

>>27051540
eh, I'd prefer double-handing beacon, but it's an idea.

>>27051540
>>27051323
These are thoughts for the sequel to lamia quest. Then we can have a gunslinger snake lady.

>>27051385
Peri/Mari is able to put together four bang stones, and five oil moltovs.

"I also have four shots left, well three regular shots and the brillitite bullet." Mari says.

Any other preparations you want to make before you head to Fall?

anyway, an exploding rock or two will easily do. Just, you know, in case we need something to explode. We usually do.

I just KNOW we're going to be fighting a big-thing.

>>27051660
Other than some Shadow Company goodbyes that can be done offscreen, I'm good.

>>27051660
I'm really trying to think of some. I don't think I want to get a new shield, we'll just bring along broke-clang.
We could say goodbye to the no-longer-kids, or have a message sent off to the people we left hanging in winter. OH! Maybe check in with that paladin commander that lived?

>>27051815
Yeah, check in with the Paladin commander. We might get some info from her.

>>27050424
>"I hate it when people do that." Mage says. "It's not as clever you think it is."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y08mI4CZ028

>>27051815
>OH! Maybe check in with that paladin commander that lived?
Thirded if possible.

>>27051838
maybe learn some secrets about the workers. She might know.

>>27051866
"Were you able to get anything out of that Paladin Commander I took down?" You ask.

"Well, we tried interrogating her a little." Janos says. "But I'm no Paladin Graves."

"Thank His Light for that." Tricia says.

Roll 1d20

Rolled 17

>>27051972

Rolled 18

>>27051972
Wonder if she's even conscious
"I'm not the biggest fan of his methods either. Been meaning to have a talk with him about that."

Rolled 2

>>27051972
Toppin of our rolls

Rolled 18

>>27051972
3rd roll for completeness.

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>>27052101
hey, nothing to be nervous about. Worst that could happen is she died.

I'm now worrying again. Also hoping we don't lose half of clang somewhere along the line.

>>27052022
"We got some useful information out of her." Janos says. "Apparently there was some fraction of original humanity within her, underneath all that...stuff." He shakes his head. "The Heart isn't in any of the throne rooms."

"What?" Mage says. "Damn." He hands Lea an Isen.

"It's in a room..." He unfolds a map of the castle, and points at a design of a floor. "Here."

"That's a...what is that room?" Tricia asks.

"Looks like...OH!" Mari says. "That's the Fount of Light." She says. "It's the Newgate's personal meditation room. Tile floors, big flat pool of water, and windows that let in the light from outside. You can reach it from any of the throne rooms, see...they're all on the same floor, but hallways here, here, and here. With the Fount in the center."

"So we finally know something Kingfisher doesn't." Cai says. "Thank the Phoenix."

"Can we get anything more from the Commander?" Mari asks.

Janos sakes her head. "After she told us, she started to go into seizures. She's gone."

"May we be able to send her soul to peace soon." Lea says.

>>27052873
"Damn, I had hoped we might not need to send her soul anywhere. At this point, it's all we can do to make sure we get the full advantage of that information, she might have died for it. I Wonder if the seisures were for betraying citadel, or if half-and-half like her just doesn't work outside a citadel area. "

since I guess folk aren't back yet:
"Hah, I knew it'd be equidistant from the thrones. The meditation room sounds nice too."

>>27052873

>Tile floors, big flat pool of water, and windows that let in the light from outside.

You have to give Citadel credit, it makes a fancy place for a final showdown.

>>27052873
"Seizures? Sounds like Citadel may have killed her directly. Hopefully she'll be the last. Let's make it count."

>>27053188
Yeah, sounds like a good place to just sort of hang around.

Though, there's going to be a giant throbulating core-thing there, which will ruin the feel.

>>27053188
That actually sounds like an awesome place bask

>>27053229
yeah, I was just thinking that.

The citadel heart is probably the perfect rock-shape too. Probably right in the sun.

>>27053229
>the final temptation
>"Ah, Ssen, we meet at last, but before we fight, why not lie down on this warm rock."

>>27053260
>"Fuck you! Your rock is made of lies and deceit. The warm, relaxed feels it provides are disingenuous and false."

>>27053348
>>27053260
after the battle, Ssen uses it anyway.

>>27053188
>>27052873
Sounds a lot like where we killed Peace.

"Damn, I had hoped we might not need to send her soul anywhere. At this point, it's all we can do to make sure we get the full advantage of that information, she might have died for it. I Wonder if the seisures were for betraying citadel, or if half-and-half like her just doesn't work outside a citadel area." You say.

"She had replaced half of her face, and skull with masonry, canvas, and other building materials. I don't think that works, period." Mage says.

"Alright." You nod. "Let's go."

Odette leads you to another house, and puts her hand on the door. She closes her eyes, and then opens them. The door opens and a little and she nods. She hands you a note.

- Good bye. Thank you for second chance. -

>>27053400
FUCK WE FORGOT TO TELL ODETTE

>>27053425
Tell her what?

>>27053438
about the whole faked-miracle thing that led to her death.

>>27053400
"I failed you the first time Odette, you don't need to thank me."

Another lamia hug for the road

>>27053400
"Don't thank me, I had just a big hand in this as citadel did. I'm sorry for what happened the day of the trial. I just had no way of proving the whole citadel thing back then, and it was the only way to stop the wrongful execution short of an armed rescue attempt. I hope you can forgive me."

That is, if you guys are okay with telling her.

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>>27053400
"You were the one who resisted Citadel. You freed yourself.
You earned this second chance on your own. If you waste it, I'll be terribly cross. Go and be happy."

I just know it'll turn out the Freed will die when the Citadel collapses. I just know it.

>>27053518
I dunno, they CAN exist in the non-citadel zone. There's a chance!

>>27053518
Well screw mine then, this is better

"I failed you the first time Odette, you don't need to thank me. I had just a big hand in this as citadel did. I'm sorry for what happened the day of the trial. I just had no way of proving the whole Citadel thing back then, and it was the only way to stop the wrongful execution short of an armed rescue attempt. I hope you can forgive me." You say.

She rolls her eyes. - I know. Lysander told Ryan. Ryan told me. -

"Oh." You say. "Odette...you...you earned this second chance on your own. Don't...don't waste it."

- You know I end when Citadel does. -

You blink and wipe your eyes. Your tears sting the skin on your arms a little.

- It is fine. -

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>>27053591

Hug her.

Now.

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>>27053591
"When they ask of the heroes of the Battle of Citadel, what do they want me to tell them about the Freed?
You will not be overlooked or forgotten. I can at least promise you that."

>>27053591
Now is maybe the time for hugs.

"I really hope you don't."

Because shit, freed, shit.

>>27053630
Don't go all bawling on her though, that acid shit can't be good for the wood finish.
>>27053634
yeah, this is going STRAIGHT in the history book. And statues. I am not sure if the statue should be a golemodette or a normal one.

You hug her, it's prickly and sharp as before. "I really hope you don't." You say.

She shrugs. "When they ask of the heroes of the Battle of Citadel, what do they want me to tell them about the Freed? You will not be overlooked or forgotten. I can at least promise you that."

She breaks the hug and takes a while to write.

- That we were, and that others should remember that redemption and salvation are always there, even for the most miserable...but that it costs. A lot. The names on the back are who we were. -

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqFftJDXii0

Seriously Echo. Fuck you.

>>27053729
I agree with statues. And we commission a painting. A completely ahistorical painting depicting Odette slashing down an entire mob of workers.
Who cares if we didn't directly see it. It probably happened in War at some point. The Freed and Shadow Companies are all heroes.

>>27053748
"They'll know. You can count on it."
get ready to leave, then stop
"Uh, the names on the back? Don't tell me I haven't noticed that you're all labelled."

>>27053836
On the back of the paper.

>>27053845
oh. Is that what she meant?

Then ignore that second half. If that is what she meant.

>>27053870
Yeah. You take that piece of paper and keep it safe.

>>27053896

And if there is time, copy it and hand it to each party member, just in case.

>>27053748
Well, odette confirmed for bro-ette. Now to go stop what very well may be her power source. And she's cool with that.
>>27053762
you are not helping buddy.
>>27053896
yes, protect the fuck out of that paper. Our safest pocket or bag. Or the remains of clang, if that's safe and wrapped up.

> no golem race

welp

>>27053937
Have one of our party members, probably not Mage as he'll be explaining things, do that while we're talking to Kingfisher.

>>27053949
I -knew- we should have been carrying tens of thousands of soul gems and magic power sources.

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I actually had a feel.

"They'll know. You can count on it." You say as you tuck the note into the inside of your armor.

She nods.

You head through the door into the Fall.

The smell is the first thing that hits you, and you can't help but drool.

"Oh, we should have swung by here first." You hear Tricia say. "That or I think Odette is teasing us."

This place is either a butchers or a smoke house, or some other place that cures meats, because there's tables that are FILLED with prime meats. Steaks, sausages, flanks, and roasts. There's even a mountain of honey glazed hams. Glistening and pink and lovely.

You and Tricia stare at them longingly for a moment. The lunch you had before you left of bread and jerky is all but forgotten.

You even see fresh tongue!

Mage and Lea thankfully drag the pair of you away from the feast.

Oh the smell is even better (or worse, depending on your viewpoint) from outside. There's the sound of drinking songs and sounds of glasses clinking and general mirth.

There are fountains in the street that are pouring wine, mead, and honey-milk into pools.

"We have to destroy all of THIS?" Tricia moans as she sees a Worker push a wheelbarrow filled with fresh, slightly oozing, sticky-buns past you. "We truly ARE monsters!"

>>27054147
"Tricia. The sticky buns ARE PEOPLE. The souls of people, mind you, but PEOPLE.

Why did Kingfisher pick this location anyway? I'd taken him to be more an Aged man."

>>27054147

Tell Lea to smack some sense into us if we try to nibble on the delicious food.

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>>27054231

>>27054147
"Think about it this way. By ignoring this we can live to bug people in the Colony until we find someone willing to make that cake Isen's sister talked about."

>>27054147
"Tricia, don't say that, I'm trying my very hardest to not eat the delicious, delicious soul-sausages. All these wonderful hams, ruined by their ingredients. and that was a whole WHEELBARROW of stucky buns!"

>>27054280
"I hope they don't have any giant eggs here, the regular kind haven't been enough since we met the harpies."

>>27054317
oh man if they have giant eggs, just knock us out. We're done.

>>27054317
shoulda been
>>27054147

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>>27054247

>>27054358
that is lea's job here, yes. We even assigned her to it specifically way back during the confession thing.

possibly after all the food business
"Wonder what kingfisher likes to eat. Wait, where is he anyway?"

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>>27054323
>>27054317
Two jumbo scrambled eggs with bacon and hashbrowns on the side, coming right up!

And I bet your girlfriend would just love a stack of warm fluffy pancakes drizzled with powered sugar and maple syrup.

>>27054358
The best part of this .gif is the Hound back there just staring. "Yep, that's the little brat getting his shit slapped. Don't give a fuck."

>>27054409
you BASTARD!

Ssen's party: Physically drag tricia and Ssen along by the ear.

>>27054409
At this point we'd eat the eggs whole,or just bust holes in them with our fangs and drink it out

Shit do we have the birds with us?

I wonder how they'll react to our thoughts about harpie eggs...

"Tricia, don't say that, I'm trying my very hardest to not eat the delicious, delicious soul-sausages. All these wonderful hams, ruined by their ingredients. and that was a whole WHEELBARROW of stucky buns!" You say. "But those things are probably made of people. Why did Kingfisher pick this location anyway? I'd taken him to be more an Aged man."

"Easier to spot the temptations." Lea says. "Also, the people here seem less likely to jump him or throw tomatoes at him."

"I do hope they don't have any giant eggs here, the regular kind haven't been enough since we met the harpies." You say. "If they have..."

You're looking at a long table set down the middle of the road. It's filled to the brim with breakfast foods, including (among other variations and dishes) two giant bowls filled with soft boiled eggs, and hard boiled eggs.

"Ssen..." Lea says. "I WILL hit you."

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You FLASHY BASTARD. Food is MY gig!

Stay away, boys! I'll cook the masterpieces around here!

>>27054471
we DO have the birds with us. Not the harpies, but the phoenix spies.
And don't talk about harpie eggs. Citadel will hear you. And we're not allowed to eat those anyway.
>>27054457
we should get some chickens. Like, a couple dozen.
Or a few ostriches. Enough for us, granny, tricia, the kids, and maybe a guest or two.

>>27054471
>Shit do we have the birds with us?
They were going to follow you after a bit, to ensure a proper tail.

>>27054513
"... fine, but you're fixing me and Tricia breakfast when we get out of here. Even if it's not particularly good, I'm sure it'll be much more satisfying."

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Rolled 10

>>27054513
Roll to resist delicious eggs and not receive punch from Lea.

>>27054513
"They're not even that big, you remember the harpies!"

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>>27054513
Stare at the table for a bit. Raise your hand a little, then stop.
"Do it."

Rolled 18

Must resist the evil evil food.

>>27054577
Harpy... eggs... got it.
Could I get you anything to drink? The coffee is quite good.

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>>27054611
Heh. Silly me.

Jokes aside, we simply have to stop thinking about food and get the mission done. Where is Kingfisher? He'd have to have hold himself up somewhere where he wouldn't be tempted.

Maybe he has a food he doesn't like. That might be where he is.

"They're...they're probably over cooked. And they're not even that big, you remember the harpies!" You say as you turn away...oh by His Light, you see people biting them open and runny yolks....runny YOLKS...with those ultra thin crackers that Uncle Alexander makes!

"FINE!" You say. "But you're fixing me and Tricia breakfast when we get out of here!"

Lea rolls her eyes and gently prods you down the street.

Okay...you're good, you're good. It's only three lousy miles until you get to the castle-mountain and you can pun-for FUCK'S sake! GIANT STREET WIDE BAR-B-QUE WITH A PIG ON A SPIT!

You are in a nightmare.

>>27054611
>>27054621
honestly I have no idea what drinks Ssen likes. We've had tea, but been mostly neutral to it. And we've had sap, but that was more of a dip than a drink.
>>27054513
just start hitting ourself in the head with the pain rock. That might work.

>>27054652
Good plan.

>>27054662
"Okay you know what, let's just... uh... just... Here, give me a bandage."

Take bandage, take pain rock, tie pain rock around head. Tight.
"Ah! Ah! This doesn't help as much as I hoped! Ah! Let's go!"

>>27054662
"Someone remind me to start eating larger meals less regularly after we get out of here. This is a damn nightmare."

Rolled 19

>>27054662

"Mage, can you make us go any faster before me and Tricia abandon you guys for food?"

>>27054662
"I think I know what Kingfisher meant when he said he was having a bad day."

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>>27054662
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA1mbZ_MMh8

"I think I know why Kingfisher came here. He hates dinner parties. I don't."

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>>27054662
It's okay. I can handle this. We're okay, I'm okay, everything is okay.

I just... need to get my bearings. Center myself and all that.

You know that snakes can taste smells right?

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Three miles of this shit. Does kingfisher KNOW what he's doing to us?

>>27054769
definitely mention we can taste smells.

It bears repeating.

>>27054770

Must be payback for the rescue we botched.

Maybe... maybe if we go on the rooftops, we'll avoid most of the feasting?

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A pox on cidatel for making this place!

Food, sex and mechanical engineering are my three great passions in life. If there's a hot girl with a spanner in this reality, I'M DONE.

Ehco, for the love of the Light do not describe any pasta.

>>27054834
Warm air rises, carrying the scents of all the food bellow

>>27054844
hey, at least Ssen doesn't like pasta.
>>27054850
I would say the sewers, but those don't exist in citadel.

And I would say just plug our nose, but then we'll breathe through our mouth, which is worse.

>>27054711
we DO need to change our eating patterns, this is just too much.
>>27054740
oh, this is good.

"I think I know what Kingfisher meant when he said he was having a bad day." You say. "He must hate dinner parties...alright, before I abandon you, give me a bandage."

You wrap the pain stone around your forehead and activate it. OWWWW. Okay...THAT got your mind out of your stomach.

"Let's go!" You say.

Roll 1d20

>>27054886

She's not had mine. I make my marinara with 3 kinds of sausage.

Rolled 3

>>27054910
>Ssen: Remember how tasty brains are

Rolled 17

>>27054910
Rollin'

Rolled 9

>>27054910

Rolled 15

>>27054910
Rollan
>>27054932
and tongues. And blood. And bones, when properly prepared. And tisgut says the hair too, which we need to try with an open mind.

Rolled 19

>>27054910

Check on tricia.

And then check on ourselves again, because we probably are already eating some eggs with our off hand and didn't even notice.

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>>27055025
We should be good. We all know that the Dice Gods are saving their 1's for the final confrontation.

Rolled 19

>>27055092

Quiet you! Don't tempt Citadel like that!

I am just -waiting- for the head bandage to fall off.

Or for us to take it off, since ow ow ow ow constant ow.

>>27054934
Okay, you can do this. Ignore the food. Don't look at it, don't think about it, don't stop. Just keep going forward and you'll make it to the castle.

The others have the same idea, curse their human bodies and how they don't have tongues and noses that can taste every little thing in the air, and how they can so EASILY just deny thmselves things when every instinct in you is begging you to start eating and gorging yourself until you've become so long that your tail will wind through ever Citadel street...the idea just causes shudders to go though your body. Oh this place is evil.

"Ssen!" Lea says pushing you back. "I see them!"

You look, sure enough, Kingfisher and his two loyal birds are walking up the steps of Newgate Castle. Wakai and Teo-Has keep looking back, but Kingfisher has other feasts in mind it seems.

"We could charge out and jump them now." Peri says. "Could be stupid idea, but...well...worked with Peace."

>>27055304
"I kinda doubt it with the numbers guy being there. He's probably prevented assassinations before."

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>>27055304
"Don't fix what ain't broke. Anyone want black real quick?"

also picture is what i think we should reforge clang into

>>27055304
"I don't think we're trying to kill them right now, we're trying to hitch a ride. The procedure is different, I am almost sure. Maybe we should wave?"

Rolled 17

>>27055304

"Stupid ideas are our stock and trade."

Quick-quick stabbing or bow?

>>27055350
either that, or we make two clangs.

>>27055368
NO! Please no. This is not going to work.

>>27055368
Well we aren't killing anyone
>>27055374
confused turtle mode?

I thought we were going to talk to kingfisher, ascertain his goal for the heart in its entirety, ask him about soul consumption, and then decide whether or not to give him the info on getting into the castle?

Or are we skipping that since it seems he's already getting into the castle?

>>27055384
One for Ssai, one for Ssah.

>>27055399
I agree with this. Clang is gone. His children will live on.

Okay, guys, are we jumping him or talking to him?

I think we're confused. Or at least I am.

>>27055391

Oh forgot about that.

Maybe we should try to knock him out though. Talking with him may get us into a fight that we can't afford to be in.

>>27055435
Are you implying there is a difference?

>>27055435
His assistants are haxor. I'd rather use him as bait, as planned.

We listened to what he has to say, off some minor critiques after his rant (and say nothing during), then we listen to his retorts and act as if we were convinced.
Then tell him how to get to the Citadel heart, while leaving out a very important piece of information (the meditation room).

While he and his ninjas are fighting, sneak by his dumb ass. If he spots us, run, with a cloud of poison covering our retreat.

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>>27055509
>act as if we were convinced.

Like he would EVER buy that.

>>27055509
We don't want to kill him yet dammit

>>27055509
>>27055537
there's always the alternate plan I proposed earlier. TELL him we're going to go in after him and get to the heart before him, but that he should probably try anyway, since he might beat us there after all.

This would make him knowingly make himself into bait to get there before us, or hold up somewhere in the castle to try to trap us. Either way, we gain advantage.

>>27055537
Hey, the plan was to tell him the location of the heart. He'd get suspicious if we just gave it to him randomly and use us as the bait.

We need to give critique that sounds like we're on the verge of agreeing with him. Nothing along the lines of "well you can't just use Citadel because you'd be no better than the Fifth," but rather things like whether he thinks the past iterations of the PE are more or less legitimate than the current one he is trying to preserve and if he has a right to deny a future iteration from existing. He'd have an answer to this, which we act like we believed.

No matter how well spoken his responses, we disagree on a fundamental level. Which he doesn't know about yet because he broke us off earlier.

>>27055559
Again. He'd just use us as bait. We want him to go in first.

>>27055304
After we get out of here, let's go eat like, a whole moose. Maybe three moose.

>>27055599
how does "tell him we're going to let him go in first and then eventually overtake him" translate to "we go in first?"

Whatever, I think this is one of the things we're going to argue about a lot, and I'm really hoping to avoid that.

>>27055650
>how does "tell him we're going to let him go in first and then eventually overtake him" translate to "we go in first?"

Because Kingfisher isn't a goddamn idiot, he's a master tactician.

>>27055304
"For a given meaning of 'worked', I mean it lead to all of this nonsense. No no, Kingfisher's too paranoid and cautious for that to work at all. Patience is key here."

No matter what we're doing, we need to go after him right now, to talk or to attack.

Because I think he's trying the castle breech.

>>27055599
"I have to admit, I'm not as good at listening to people as I ought to be. It's how my head is, too many voices going on at once, it's hard to..focuss. But at any rate, from what little I've heard from your earlier rant, what you want is..a World where every single person gets exactly what they deserve..am I right?"

>>27055798
We can't even say that. In-character we know next to nothing, as his previous attempt at explaining was a garbled mess.

Kingfisher said we had to talk. we talk. then we go into the castle. Then we fight. Then the winner goes and claims the heart, for good or for kingfisher good.
This is my bet on how it will turn out.

>>27055853
So, I'm seeing a slight bend towards 'approach non-hostile' is that correct or should I take a vote?

>>27055927
it may be just me arguing heavily. Perhaps a vote.

>>27055853
Well all right, then how about we ask him what he would do with that power?
>>27055927
Non-Hostile. No point in making a big mess before its time.

>>27055927
Democracy can't hurt

>>27055927
Non-hostile. I really don't want to fight probability hax.

>>27055927
non hostile for now. We will fight them once we get inside.

"Kingfisher's too paranoid and cautious for that to work." You say. "Let's try this differently."

You slither out into view of the stairs and wave at them.

Teo-Has winces in a clear 'You've got to be fucking shitting me' look of exasperation. "Master, the Snake is here." She says.

"Of course she is." Kingfisher says, not turning around. "Miss Patrick, please inform my ex-employees that I thank them for their years of service and dismiss them from my employ. Should they need references, they're free to ask. Now, are we going to have a proper discourse...or one of your usual manner of debates?"

>>27056263
"Depends. Are you going to be a pompous ass, or are you going to be reasonable?"

"Also, you guys are free to sign on with me after all this is over. I'm sure I can find some honest work that caters to your abilities. No references necessary."

>>27056263
"It occurs to me..I don't actually know your name, I've always been fine with calling you Kingfisher...Pleasantries and introductions aside, I have only one thing to ask you. With all the power you will take from citadel, without harming the citizens inside..what will you do? Please answer honestly, with the Light as my witness, I will not interrupt."

>>27056263
"Well, I was going to ask you to finish that rant from earlier, maybe without being interrupted this time. After that, we'll maybe talk some business. How do my usual debates go?"

Since that's one of the major points of talking to kingfisher- making sure it's not an incredibly dumb risk to have him get into the castle for us. At least if his vision isn't SO terrible, us dying wouldn't be the end of the world.

>>27056263
"I'm hear to listen. You weren't exactly in the best mood to explain yourself last time we met."

>>27056316
These people are completely loyal to Kingfisher. They'd die for him.

>>27056368
I mean Cai and the others. The ones he was dismissing.

>>27056404
It's a superfluous comment, but whatever. Not something I'd bother debating over.

I was a bit worried Kingfisher would be out for blood, but it seems he understands to just leave it be now that he's about to win.

>>27056430
We did butcher Light knows how many Ettins. He might be picking his fights

>>27056467
I sort of feel bad about that, the ettins really weren't there of their own accord.

>>27056333
>hear to listen
Typo, or puns fired so early?

>>27056499
I didn't mean it, I swear!

>>27056263
"Oh, I'd much prefer being civilized. Stars, I can still taste this place. Why'd you have to come here, anyway, I've only got jerky after all."

I am glad he's not turning around, becuase he would notice we have a rock tied to our head.

>>27056499
"Wherever I go, I must also pun."

>>27056499
>>27056508
it's fine, he can't know it's a pun unless he reads our memoirs.

In light of asking someone to, basically, explain their motivations, I realize it might take a while.

Let's all go help ourselves to some eggs or something. Got a sudden craving.

>>27056511
If he asks about, we reply with "What rock?"

>>27056762
yes. Just ignore the rock. And the food.

>>27056762
"Oh? This? This keeps me sane. You sure picked a good location for this talk."

"Depends. Are you going to be a pompous ass, or are you going to be reasonable?" You say.

"I am not one who enjoys long speeches. Be blunt and be quick, people who talk for talking's sake is something I equate to masturbation. Fun for the individual involved, but not something other people what sprayed all over them."

"Fine. You know...I don't actually know your name. I've always been calling you Kingfisher. What is your name?"

He pauses and looks over his shoulder with a smile.

"I thank you for your politeness. Kingfisher will do, my given name in the Empire is the equivalent of your 'Jack' or 'John.' A common name held by countless. But thank you for asking."

"Alright,with all the power you will take from citadel, without harming the citizens inside..what will you do?" You ask.

"Work." Kingfisher says. "I don't see that position as one where a person can take a sabbatical, or go around indulging in vices. I will remain in the Heart, and I will serve the world. The wicked will be punished, the good will be rewarded, bad concepts like slavery will be eroded away, and good concepts like your Free Kingdom...albeit integrated into the Empire...will be preserved." He adjusts his shoulders. "Sun, Cai, and the others will be allowed to be as they will, and as for you Paladins. Since there will be friction inherent in the system, or later usurpers to my place, and you all have an astounding talent in upsetting plots and conspiracies, you will be allowed to continue as well." He says. "I will end Orc slavery, help restore the decent parts of the Crafter civilization and their knowledge, heal diseases, and make life as it should be." He smiles. "It will be far from perfect, like this parody, a man will have to work for a living, but any man who is willing to sweat, or dedicate himself, will succeed. No need for chance or lucky breaks. Life will be equal and fair, and good."

(cont)

>>27056807
"And the people inside Citadel? The dome?" Mage asks.

"They will all be safely taken out of the dome and placed out in the wastelands, from that point, their lives will be their own." He says.

"And you want people to worship you then?" Tricia asks.

"Not at all. I will ask for no temples, and demand no abasement." Kingfisher says. "Worship your Light, or the Phoenix, or whatever makes you feel safer at night. I will be the true God, that will be enough."

"And the souls that are currently within here?" Lea asks.

Kingfisher sighs. "An unpleasant sacrifice, and the one thing that makes this bitter and no real victory...but to do ANYTHING the Heart MUST expend the souls."

"Sacrifice? Expend? Wait, you mean you aren't going to just keep them locked in here?" Mari asks.

"I'm sorry, but yes. Citadel can keep a soul in itself, and use it to grow...but to change things...to fix things...to alter the world? The souls here will be..." He shakes his head. "No. I will not use flowery language to hide. They will be ripped apart and obliterated. Consumed by the Void. It is a horrible horrible thing, and there is no other way. That is why I will remain within the Heart, upon that throne, and spend the rest of eternity helping the world...to make up for that sin."

>>27056813
Sigh.
"That's what I was afraid of. Tell me, how would those souls fair if the wall was taken down? Or holes simply made for long enough to evacuate, and then turned off entirely?
I value those souls quite highly, you know. I even know some. "
Then think on it a while. Are we going to give this guy the location and risk him doing this? I mean, we're planning on stopping him, but he might win.

Worth the risk?

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>>27056807
That's a bit too blunt for my tastes.

"How can you speak of the obliteration of souls so casually? And when the Citadel runs out... what will you do then?"

This is going to turn into a fight I don't goddamn want. Maybe it will be so spectacular that the Citadel will take notice and we can split in the chaos. A sudden poison strike against Kingfisher wouldn't be amiss. His servants are useless without their master.

Again, I don't want this fight. That probability guy scares me.

>>27056902
>worth the risk
Not anymore.

>>27056813
"The first step in atoning for a sin is to stop sinning."

>>27056909
we're not fighting quite yet. but we WILL have to fight soon, if we use them to get into citadel.

Fight them and stop them. Either that or go around them and take the blunt of citadel for them.

>>27056813
>>27056807
Long pause. And then ask.

"And..is that..everything then?"

>>27056915
darn, I was hoping for a race-to-the-center-of-the-citadel scenario.

>>27056939
yeah, this one.
We don't want to judge him immediately, but fuck, as it is this can't stand.

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>penultimate boss

I'm sweating bullets.

>>27056813
"One sin to become a god? Not a wound that won't be forgotten after enough time. Which will be your greatest enemy, aside from the other deities who continue to mettle in the affairs of us mortals. The Fifth and the Dark Cold Man are cruel beings, and Peace was the controler of the Citadel before I stuck her down and all three very much wish for my death. They are irrelevant enough to you though, but time will not be. How many centuries do you think it will take for your mind to change? How many mistakes? The minds of man bend Kingfisher, and you cannot halt it forever. You may save those living now, and many of their descendants, but soon you will become a creature you did not intend to become. Something cruel and meddlesome and ugly. That is the fate of the divines that interfere in mortal affairs. I do not wish to discourage you from doing good, but I know you are too smart to allow yourself implement a temporary plan at the expense of so many in the present and all of those in the future you create. The colony needs you to be you, not a god."

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>>27057016
Oh fuck, this. We convince him that there's no way for him to keep control of himself.
Use Granny as an example. Shit, use us. Tell him that eventually we'll lose control of ourselves and die and there's nothing that will change that. It's better for us to have children when we think we're ready and accept death than try for immortality and lose ourselves.

>>27057061
>>27057016
might be worth trying. A bit wordy for kingfisher, but it's a point that's proven repeatedly true.

"And..is that..everything then?" You ask.

"Yes." He says. "I could go into finer details and case by case examples of my plans, but you know how I feel about talking and not doing.

"I do plan on restoring the Freed to flesh. They deserve another chance at life for what they've overcome."

"But they've opposed you." Mage says. "Stolen from you."

Kingfisher shrugs. "The moon opposes the sun, and steals its light. The sun seems to be alright with it."

"What will you do when Citadel runs out of souls?" You ask.

"There are seven ages worth of souls within this city. Some have been here for so long that they have forgotten what sentience is, who they were, and anything other than the fact that they're a cobblestone or a tile. I will end their pain.

"Also, I do plan to have people work on that solution for me. Another power source, or method would be very welcome. I'd immediately start using it, and release all the remaining souls." He smiles at you. "I suppose you'd be the first digging through the libraries to help with that."

His smiles fades. "Or maybe not." He pauses.

Wakari and Teo-Has shift their stances.

"So, Lady Paladin Ssen Patrick...what happens now?"

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>>27057088
Say nothing and just keep walking up to the heart. We don't have to fight yet.
Kingfisher will follow us, we'll meet resistance, and we'll leave Kingfisher and his goons in the lurch.

>>27057088
"Only the Light can tell for sure, and he's always been a quiet one. For all your suspicion and treachery, you're a good man Kingfisher." Slither past him. "I will lead you to the Heart."

>>27057121
Alternatively, we could tell him that it's one of the throne rooms.

He'd assume that we're giving him the wrong room, which is true, but he'd assume it must be one of the two remaining rooms.
He'd never guess it'd be in a fourth room he is completely unaware of.

>>27057088
"All things end, Kingfisher. Kings die, kingdoms crumble, plans fail, memories fade, the will falters, sins are absolved. You speak of continuing the same sins as Citadel, of destroying the souls of innocents, and you seem to think you're some sort of damned hero."

"Well, congratulations, Kingfisher. You've managed to find the end of my patience."

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>>27057158
Dammit.

>>27057088
"Now we disagree. I'm going to the heart. You have until I get there to convince me that turning it off would be wrong, or stop me. I'll be trying for nonlethal takedowns, if it comes to blows, if that means anything. Light knows enough people have died over disagreements like this."

"And yeah, I'd be in the libraries immediately. Win or lose, this kind of thing really can't stand."

>>27057088
"What happens now is you stand down before you do something you regret. What keeps you from becoming warped after a century? A millennium? I will share with you a brief biology lesson. Lamia and Nagas are near immortal unless we breed, but our minds suffer the longer and longer we live. Humans are much much different, your minds bend and you are not accustomed for living so long. What happens when you slip, start making mistakes, start turning from you work? What happens if your concentration lapses and you become as chained as the Citadel was to Peace to some other force? Do you wish to make that gamble? Even if you disregard the buy-in of the souls of the dead, there are those who you rule over, the living who will suffer. Tell me what happens now Kingfisher. {Will you soar higher than you can manage?}"

>>27057204
should be "..suffer and break"

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>>27057158
NO! I'VE GOT IT!

"As much as I hate to admit it, Kingfisher, the Citadel's heart is almost impossible to breach. I'll need your help on the matter.

There are three throne rooms. In one lies the heart. When we reach the crossroads between them, you will go one way and I will go another. I trust the Light will guide me to the correct room."

HE THINKS WE'RE NAIVE AND A STUPID FUNDIE WHEN REALLY WE STACKED THE DECK. PLUS HE HELPS US FOR MOST OF THE WAY.

>>27057214
this is pretty good.
The only problem would be if our reputation of always-cheat-all-the-time got ahead of us.
>>27057204
and this is a fairly good attempt at dissuading him, which may or may not work, but might be worth a shot.

I think a vote is needed, since we have such diverging ideas.

>>27057291
can we even narrow it down to a vote?

I have a rough procedure of try to talk him out of it a little->fail->tell him where the heart might be -> battle with him if he makes it to the meditation chamber

"What happens now is you stand down before you do something you regret. What keeps you from becoming warped after a century? A millennium? I will share with you a brief biology lesson. Lamia and Nagas are near im-"

"Enough. You have no speeches that I wish to hear." Kingfisher says. "I thought we had this conversation."

You pause and flick your tongue out in annoyance.

"Fine. As much as I hate to admit it, Kingfisher, the Citadel's heart is almost impossible to breach. I'll need your help on the matter.

"There are three throne rooms. In one lies the heart. When we reach the crossroads between them, you will go one way and I will go another. I trust the Light will guide me to the correct room." You say.

He shakes his head. "You truly think so little of me that you would first bore me with your prattling speeches, and then lie to my face...or even worse...trying to be clever by telling me a half-truth." He turns and walks up the stairs. "Come. They're not lying about the difficulty, and the portal needs to be opened either way and they won't attack until we've done that part for them."

The pair of loyal birds give you the most smug looking smirk you've ever seen in your life, and follow Kingfisher up the steps.

"Are you coming, Serpent?" Kingfisher asks over his shoulder.

>>27057335
I think no matter what we cannot tell him the true location of the heart. We tell him it's where we originally thought it'd be; the throne rooms.

>>27057351
Fuck what is this guy a psion?

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>>27057351
"Right behind you."

>he didn't fall for it

>>27057351
fuck it, I"m kinda tried of his shit

wrap his ass so we can yell in his face that his idea is stupid.

>>27057351
"Of course, kingfisher. Have a good fight, when it comes time. Hopefully we'll all strike each other nonlethally. One can dream."

We're using a poison cloud on him, right? He can't bullshit his way out of that.

>>27057375
that won't change anything at this point. He's got his convictions, we've got ours, and they each dictate we must stop the other from performing this stupid and crazy act.

>>27057406
I wasn't planning on it, no.

>>27057351

Before he leaves tell math guy a leviathan joke

>>27057419
He won't hear us out, we're going to make him.
>>27057406
Lethal to our friends too btw

>>27057351
I need to sleep, but for the record? We shouldn't let these fuckers anywhere NEAR the Heart.

I'd honestly be in favor of sticking an arrow in his back right here.

>>27057427
No, we save that for the fight to throw him off.

>>27057351
Give him a toothy grin.

{"From the moment you told me what you intend to do to all those souls. To yourself, you lost any chance you have winning. Any chance of me letting you win. I'll stop you old man. I promise, I'll save you."}

If he tries to interrupt, talk over his attempt. Loudly. We are DONE being polite with our speeches.

"Right behind you." You say.

You follow him, and you start when Lea takes your wrist.

"We are fucking murdering them." She hisses at you. "I will NOT allow such...such...blasphemy...heresy...arrogance...I...I don't even have the words. They're dead. Tell me that you agree."

>>27057456
"I'm about to save him from himself."
wrap him

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>>27057456
"I agree."

>>27057466
Not yet. Patience. We still need to get through the guards.

Guy planning the sequel quest here.
Was hoping to chime in after the thread was over but I got an early workday tomorrow so I'll just toss it here.
Pretty much got the ideas planned out. Expect Lamias, expect western, expect it about a month after this wraps up.

>>27057456
"We're going to stop them. I'd prefer not to kill them, but we are GOING to stop them."

>>27057480
yesssss.

>>27057456
"Not in here. He's, at the very least, going to remain alive until we leave Citadel grounds. Not because I want to spare his soul, but because I wouldn't be surprised if that'll just make things easier for him."

>>27057456
"Not out of hatred or anger, Lea, and not on his terms."

>>27057456
"Calm down. He's lost any chance he had of us letting him do it. We'll stop him. We'll save him."

>>27057482
As far as I can tell, you're the only one still pushing hard for non-lethal.

We don't WANT him to die, Anon, we just... NEED him to.

>>27057509
well, there's also the guy who wants to save him.

But I'm probably in the minority.

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>>27057480
Sounds good. I'm looking forward to it. Western wasn't what I expecting, so it's going to be interesting.

>>27057496
>>27057482
It's going to be a hell of a battle and we need to use every weapon we have at our disposal. Including poison and bombs. We cannot let him win.
Going for non-lethal is preferred, but it's going to limit us too significantly. I don't think Citadel can use dead people as hosts, otherwise it'd have done it already.

>>27057524
Western lets me set it about 500 years after this. I've got a few things I want to hash out with Echo about it, but first I need to know how this all ends. That and to go over the area maps.

>>27057524
I agree, stopping him comes first absolutely. If it comes down to a him-on-ground-spear-to-neck spare/don't spare choice though, I choose the latter.

but no poison clouds, our friends are -still- vulnerable to that. Silly humans.

>>27057545
Fair enough, but the probability guy needs to die. Him we do not want walking around.
The next fight scene, probably next session, will give us a better estimate of his abilities. It's a very good idea to watch how Kingfisher and his men fight so that we can figure out how to beat them later.

>>27057518
Fuck "saving" him. He's beyond rational thought. The only valid reason to leave him alive is so that his soul won't get into Citadel and cause unpredictable side effects, and I'm not even convinced that's a serious threat.

>>27057567
Actually he's well into rational thought, this is a battle of ideals now. I've got The Stand playing while I read.

>>27057563
>>27057567
what can I say, I'm a romantic.
I seem to be outvoted though.

>>27057567
That is not the attitude of a Paladin. We will stop him and spare him the weight of destroying thousands of innocent souls. Lethally if we have to.

Oh, and if we get a charge on Beacon, we have to save it for just the right moment of the Kingfisher fight.

Maybe a Morningstar at the beginning. Probability might dodge it, but it'll be too many success rolls at once for Kingfisher and No-Bones. Hell, why go after Probability? One person attacks No-Bones and everyone else attacks Kingfisher.

>>27057603
This isn't how we treated Peace, Comedy, or Tragedy. Kingfisher is a dramatae, no, a Citadel in infancy.

>>27057542
Oh. One last, last, thing before I punch out. Going to try something new here.The 'sequel' if you can call it that is going to be a bit more episodic than this. Think along the lines of Tales from Wells Fargo, or The Virginian.
Only with magic and monsterfolk.

>>27057585
To call Kingfisher "rational" implies that he is capable of assessing new information and changing his goals and practices accordingly. He refuses to even entertain the fact that he might be fallible, and that his position may not be morally justifiable, which makes him an ideologue. A zealot. A fundamentally irrational person.

>>27057627
sounds marvelous. Short, punchy plots might be nice for a while. Perhaps we'll even get to trade furs at some point.

>>27057627
So long as it has gunfights, horse chases, cattle rustlers, trains, telegraphs, and possibly a gatling gun; I'm good.

And maybe steamboats and southern belles too, even if that's in another region.

>>27057649
can't ride a horse. We'll need a wagon.
which happens to be the only recurring character to show up from this quest

>>27057626
>This isn't how we treated Peace, Comedy, or Tragedy.
and Liam. And I consider each a black mark against us. Not this time. This time we do it right. We stop him to keep him from becoming the next Dramatae, the Next Citadel.

We will fight him and we may even kill him. But by the Light we will not do it out of hate. We will do it out of love, compassion and mercy.

Because for all the atrocities he's about to commit, Kingfisher is a good man, or is doing his damnedest to be one, misguided as it is.