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Aww, yeah. Shadow Quest.

Yisss

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Recent Events Summary:

You have entered, and escaped the Archonium. In so doing, you have confronted your Temerity, embraced your Humanity, and helped Abigail achieve balance and emerge relatively unscathed. It's a trial that will sit with you, and her, for the rest of your lives...but it's on you've beaten.

You stand alone and consider the future.

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Ability Tree

GREEN abilities have been unlocked and learned.

BLUE abilties are unlocked, but are not yet purchased.

RED abilities are revealed, but locked due to prerequisites.

UNDERLINED abilities are active-use, as opposed to passive. Not all active abilities require mana.

All Revealed Ability Descriptions:

http://pastebin.com/SDvkHrNt

Books the Main Character has read:

http://pastebin.com/dAXR00gP

Character Sheet including learned abilities and other important information:

http://pastebin.com/ZFqqm4eS

>>26550489
how much exp do we get for consuming sm

I really hope this thread is more the characters working things out themselves.

Too many important decisions that last arc; I just want to sit back and watch the results of them reach a natural conclusion over make even more.

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Current Statistics:

HP: 81/81
Mana: 48/48
EXP: 22

Shards of Erebus:
(Isolation) - Broken
{Hunger} - Normal
(Silence) - Empowered
{Temerity} - Empowered

New Shards:
{Humanity} - Resonant

--Summoned--

none

--Automatons--

Earthen Construct (currently in Haven)

--Equipment--

Utility belt with purse

--Inventory--

Moonsong Shards x 3
Sun-Moon Key
Lightning Key
Succubus Reagents x 1

--Current Location--

Archon

>>26550547

None, I wouldn't be able to roll and see how much.

HA

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>Last time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-iFnUr9po

Exhausted as you are, you aren't prepared to sneak about, you're not about to let Abigail out of your sight while Fang is around. Not immediately, at least. You take a human form - the one you learned deep inside your own mind - and carry Abigail down the halls of Archon.

She falls asleep in your arms before you reach the first intersection.

You rise above the city's tunnels, and step onto the brick streets of the surface. A sky sits above you - normal white clouds against a pale blue expanse. Sparks of magic and the souls of people dashing to and fro snap at your senses. Abigail's warmth sits against your chest.

You gaze at her sleeping face. A wind rustles her hair. There's a lot you need to talk about. You feel your strength slowly returning...but there's a pain inside, a nub you cannot swallow. A lesion, left behind from what you experienced, but can't forget.

She must feel the same. You know she feels the same.

But maybe you can help each other with that. And with a lot of things.

The world you left behind months ago looms before you. You're back, and your challenges have only just begun.

But...somehow, you'll find your way. You usually do.

I think we were planning on having A Talk with Abby.

>>26550598
Having a talk with Abby -and- CONSUMING the fuck out of the Archonium.

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You stand at the balcony of Fang's tower, in the shape of a human, watching the city below. The distant sound of people walking and talking drifts up to you at a distance.

It's been several hours since you left the Archonium. You visited the Shadow mana pool and revitalized your strengths.

Flint's given you more than one questioning gaze. You're not sure how to even begin to tell him what happened inside that thing.

Abigail is sleeping soundly. You haven't disturbed her. She deserves a little rest.

You place a hand on the railing of the balcony and grip it tightly. You can feel a tension growing in your chest, twisting up tighter and tighter. She'll wake up soon enough. She'll want to talk about what happened.

What are you going to say? How the hell are you going to explain yourself?

And perhaps more fightening - what is -she- going to say?

You rub your face. Worry won't help you. You need to put your mind back on task.

But it feels like you've lived an entire life, separated from the world, and then suddenly been thrust back within it, hit the ground running, so to speak. So much to do; so much to think about.

Flint needs to be healed, his soul restored. That should be priority. He told you that Fang's spell is nearly ready, but he'll have to venture to find the other half of the Shel'kath to end it permanently, and the whole situation reeks of suspicion.

Hopefully Fang's old promise to go with you after you find that Staff of Winds will hold...though after recent events, your relationship is more than a touch strained. You don't even really know where to start on that, but he probably has an idea as to its location, at least.

You don't want Fang as an enemy, but dammit...after what he did to Abigail, how can you trust him? Though you never could trust him to begin with, he's not...evil. Just...well, maybe Abigail's explanation was the best. He's been doing what he's doing for so long, it's a bad habit.

>con't

Things to do once we settle back in:
-Ask about the places Dave mentioned.
-Try making a dynamo again with our new knowledge of order and chaos.
-???

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Assuming you found the staff, it might be powerful enough to ease the winds keeping the earth elemental, Geb, trapped. Even now he stomps about the Southeastern Wastelands, caugh in a never ending cyclone and maddened by his own parasite - one of Light magic. Even if you freed him from the wind, you'd have to somehow deal with that thing to calm him down. If he even wants to be calm after suffering for so long.

...that's a whole lot of -ifs- for Geb.

You've also got two of the four keys that could unlock Hecate's prison. Flint seems to think that a family heirloom back in Arland might be the Wind key. As to the location of the fire key, you have no leads, yet. Obis seems like a likely candidate to know more, considering he's descended from fire mages that once worked under Logi, the Fire Elemental.

But supposing you made unsealing the elementals a priority - you've learned that Erebus was never really on the side of the other lesser elementals. He abandoned Geb, and convinced the other two, Leviathan and Hecate, to seal themselves away. And then he destroyed the four Greater Elementals all at once.

What was he planning? Simply to destroy them all? Why? Because they were chaos, and he was order? For all Temerity's insistance that order and chaos can never exist peacefully, and for all the evidence you've seen that this may in fact be the case, you have to ask yourself: What kind of a motivation is that? Did he even bother to attempt coexistence? What could possibly push Erebus to take on the entire world?

The former Shadow Lord is a question mark within your own head. Perhaps that should be your next goal - find the remaining shards, and finally put to rest the ghost of Erebus. The elf queen, Ellendra Kalladar, could probably help you there; you'd have to visit the elvish isles. Perhaps, after you secured your Humanity, she made a recovery?

You glance down. The varied rooftops of the academy perched atop Archon's fortress offer no simple solutions.

>con't

So, I noticed that the pastebin only goes up about half way. So I've been doing some stuff.

01-10 http://pastebin.com/jTWL7yBU
11-20 http://pastebin.com/JytY1cDw
21-30 http://pastebin.com/RW2seaqK
31-40 http://pastebin.com/ADKwTdWi
41-50 http://pastebin.com/fLRzR5PR
Up through 48, currently. I should be caught all the way up by SQ 58, though. The early stuff is copy-pasted from the Harald of Shadow's work, though eventually (some time in the next two weeks) gonna go through and correct typos, remove meta-data (HP totals, Mana, +Humanity/Temerity/XP, etc).

Also, I wrote more stuff because I'm a horrible person.

http://pastebin.com/etHLKLdd
http://pastebin.com/a4FxswB6
http://pastebin.com/GCr5Xkek

Shame - Resonant
Self-Control - Broken

But if that were all that was on your plate, you'd almost be having an easy time. On top of these concerns, two demon lords are currently running free in Kelvere. Auriel is planning to put together an alliance to face the Kanian demon army as a single spear out of Arland. Flint features as a relucant star in her plan, as do the factions within the Great Forest and Archon itself. How exactly she expects werewolves and orcs - beings created as mutated soldiers by Archon during its wars with the Empire - to work together with Fang, you don't know.

And then there's the angels, and the Black Lady. You know Sandalphon must be gathering his strength again quickly, but he's been quiet so far. He's probably planning something. The Black Lady's country, Vampiria, shielded by the Valendrak Peaks, is equally silent - but with the rest of the world at war, will she keep it that way? Both are wildcards that could flip this entire thing upside down in an instant.

There's a lot to do, and you need to get doing.

What comes first?

>Find the Staff of Winds. It's the next immediate step to fullfill your end of the bargain on getting Flint's parasite removed.
>Focus on gathering the keys to free Hecate. The Goddess of Spirit would be a powerful ally in taking on the demons, and she might know more about you, yourself.
>Find Ellendra Kalladar to gain more insight into your nature, and gather the rest of your shards. Temerity said he would help you locate them. Power will be needed to face the coming trials.

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>>26550636
>that smut
why

>>26550604
>Find Ellendra Kalladar to gain more insight into your nature, and gather the rest of your shards. Temerity said he would help you locate them. Power will be needed to face the coming trials.

>>26550649
GET THAT STAFF SON

>>26550649
>Find the Staff of Winds. It's the next immediate step to fullfill your end of the bargain on getting Flint's parasite removed.
i want flint to have his a game. and we can proably get at least 1 more key when we go to take out the other end of the parasite. we should be in the area

>Find the Staff of Winds. It's the next immediate step to fullfill your end of the bargain on getting Flint's parasite removed.
Flint first.

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>>26550636
Hey, don't be sorry, you did some cool stu-
>http://pastebin.com/etHLKLdd
>http://pastebin.com/a4FxswB6
>http://pastebin.com/GCr5Xkek
>mfw

>>26550649
>Find Ellendra Kalladar

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>>26550636
HOHOHO

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>>26550649
Damn, all good options. Let's see.

>Find the Staff of Winds. It's the next immediate step to fullfill your end of the bargain on getting Flint's parasite removed.

We need it for Flint, and we need Flint for a Hecate key. so it's above Hecate at least.

>>26550649
>Find the Staff of Winds. It's the next immediate step to fullfill your end of the bargain on getting Flint's parasite removed.

>>26550649
Staff.
We have to get it to free Geb anyway, and this gets us closer to helping Flint. And the sooner we get it, the sooner Fang is done using it on his machines... so the sooner he can give it to us to finish business with Geb.
Helping Flint brings us closer to more keys.
Elf lady can wait.

>>26550649
>Eat that fucking gate.

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>>26550636

>writing the Michael rape scene that was too edgy for print

I almost did it.

And then one anon posted "If Michael rapes Ila, I swear to god SM, I walk right now".

I realized that was the voice of sanity knocking and decided I'd gone a little too far.

>>26550649
>Find the Staff of Winds. It's the next immediate step to fullfill your end of the bargain on getting Flint's parasite removed.

>>26550675
expounding on this. i kind of want to release hecate before we complete ourself. find out first hand how much of a douche we were. and maybe she can help us find the other mana pools.

basicaly it comes down to flint> helps with hecate
hecate> helps with us

>>26550736

patience

it will come

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>>26550736
Nah.

>>26550725
>Elf lady can wait.
Unless she dies.

>>26550604
>>26550736
I'm still quite worried about this.

Not the long-term consequences, which SM put to rest, but the immediate political consequences for Abby, and for us.

If we just eat it by our own volition, we get all the blame for ourselves (it has to be explained why the artifact just disappeared, doesn't it?)

If Abby gives it to us when she becomes archmage (if she can give it to us) then she will get blamed for it's nonexistance and be as hated (or worse) as fang.

It's potentially a massive upgrade, but one which we should prepare for to soften the political blow to our allies, though how we do that is questionable.

With my ranting concluded:
>>26550649
>Find the Staff of Winds. It's the next immediate step to fullfill your end of the bargain on getting Flint's parasite removed.
It's almost time for the spell to be ready, and we might detect and collect some of the shadow shards on the way.

>>26550636
Your mum would be proud anon.

>>26550738
You made the right choice.

>>26550753
Aww But I want it NOW.
I cant WAIT to se the exp shit storm that kicks up.
>tfw when we get 2 exp.

Looks like Staff of Winds is set to

>PRIORITY

Writing.

>>26550783
i know. but think anon. what we could do with the other end. what we could do with 100
imagine it. an entire thread of exp debates! it would be glorious.

>>26550757
A valid point.
I do wonder how much time visiting her would take, anyway. If we just want to talk, it might be a quick in-and-out whereas the staff is a larger quest. But SM has a way of introducing complications.

Right now, though, I really want to talk to Fang about something.

>>26550649
We've also got to remember to repair Isolation, hopefully with humanity (if we can still do that) to balance out the New and Old shards and get our defensive power back up and running.

>>26550760
Fang is hated because in his first 2 years he made the Spirit Blight that led to the Ring City Empire training water and earth mages to create ridiculously fertile lands that pretty much screwed over any chance of Archon ever winning against them. He then became a lich and refused to step down.

Fang is the worst archmage ever. A complete fuck up from day 1. I don't think Abby could screw up things more if she tried.

>>26550807
Man fuck mixing shards with humanity OR terminaty.

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>>26550800
>an entire thread of exp debates!

what have I created

WHAT HAVE I DONE

>>26550800

We could spend it all on Hypersonic and Earthforge a loop-de-loop and spin very fast for a few minutes! We can carry Flint with us too!

>>26550843
nah, half of it will be arguing over Servanting Abby.

>>26550800
It could finaly be the time the summon bros have been waiting for!
>tfw we bank 30 exp for the next ten threads.

>>26550800
Complete Water Tree (57)

Complete Servant Tree (18)

Buy Ray of Darkness + Void Ring (22)

97 exp total. Preemptive suggestion in case of amazing roll.

>>26550857
Two threads, one for abby and one for other exp.

>>26550861
my current order of get is
water>eclipse>then summoning
that might change when we find out what the cap ability for an elemental tree is

>>26550844

BEST. PLAN. EVER!!!!!!

We could charge for rides and use the acquired gold to buy-out the other factions.... or at least buy a better army.... of fifteen...

i wonder how much exp geb will give if we consume him

>>26550857
Is that still an argument? I thought we sorted out our opinion on that.
Besides, we promised her. Shadow doesn't make a habit of breaking promises.
Except that be-back-soon pinky promise, we fucked that up and took a decade getting back to her.

>>26550811
Handing over the device that has kept the Great Families full of powerful mages would still be very bad, even though it doesn't reach the scale of apocalyptic plague.
It's less "Fucking up the world" and more "Specifically pissing off the people in power"

Abby will also "Inherit" a large amount of hatred from Fang, for being his Niece ("Fang is just making a puppet leader"), and for her being rushed through the system.

>>26550841
The shards that we have already are pretty much all "Mixed" with temerity. That's why he got to keep all of them when we fought him.

>>26550892
All of it?

You think, and consider, and argue within yourself - but one thought sits above the others. You will never really repay the debt you owe Donovan Flint. The least you can do is fulfill the promise you made so long ago. The staff brings you closer to many goals, but most importantly, it moves you closer to finding a cure for that element-forsaken parasite.

You hear the sound of the balcony door opening behind you. You don't need to turn to see who it is. You could just focus your gaze behind you. This shell of a man you're wearing is just that - shell. But you glance back over your shoulder anyway.

It's Abigail. She's in a plain white outing dress. You meet each other's gazes for a moment.

She walks up beside you and leans on the railing. The two of you watch the city for a long time. You don't say anything.

"...Shadow...Erebus."

<Shadow,> you say. <Erebus is long dead.>

<Do you prefer talking like this?> Abigail asks. Her lips don't move, but the sound of her voice blooms in your head. Telepathy.

<It is what comes naturally. I didn't realize you could.>

<I picked it up. It's faster like this, anyway. Thoughts, I mean.> She sighs. <You showed me a lot of things. You...rejected the part of you that wanted to go back to being more like you were. Like Erebus.>

<Yes.>

<How come?>

You shut your eyes. That wouldn't stop you seeing, but you shut whatever part of you sees, as well, blending human motion with your action. <I embraced Humanity.>

>con't

>>26550892

A, GEBly amount?

DOHOHOHOHOHO

>>26550844
We could hypersonic to the moon and finally turn it into a fully operational battle station!

>>26550903
Well shit. I still dont think we should mix any non mixed things with anything else for fear of bullshit.

There is a long pause. You can practically feel Abigail composing her words.

<So,> she says, <you mean...you embraced what formed out of that vision you experienced? With...um...you and me?>

<I think so.> You desperately try not to think about the vision itself. <I decided that it was more important than whatever happened so long ago. I decided that I...> You trail off. You can't find the words.

<You decided that what you choose to be is more important than what you are,> Abigail finishes. <Or what you were.>

<Yes.>

<I'm glad.> She turns from the rail and faces you. You face her. <Shadow,> she says. <I did some things...well.> She stops, takes a breath. <It's fuzzy, but I remember what the parts of me did...how they felt...but it's all one thing, now. I'm just me. So...I guess what I'm trying to say is that what each part did by itself doesn't reflect how I think and feel, now that I'm together. At the same time, it's a little bit of all of them, all joined up to make something new.> The last part comes out in a hurry. <What's between us, exactly?>

>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>What do you think?
>I think of you as a daughter. Family.
>There's...something more between us, Abby.
>write-in

>>26550944

Can we carry Flint with us? He loves flying!

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>What do you think?

>>26550946
>Give her the D

>>26550946
<I think of you as family.>

>>26550946
>>I think of you as a daughter. Family.

love is in the way of order

>>26550946
Do we have eye like things on our head or is it just blank?

>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.

>>26550946
>I think of you as a daughter. Family.
THE SHITSTORM BEGINS

>>26550966
Of course he can! We can bring the whole lot of them! What could go wrong?

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>What do you think?
These two. Fits perfectly for the character as well.

Inb4 pedophile.

>>26550946
First two.

I honestly don't fucking know.

>>26550980

It's blank.

>>26550946
>You are mai waifu, I wubbles you.

Naw let's go with "I-I d-d-don't k-know"

I'm gonna be honest here. I'd RATHER she be the daughter figure as well. But if you've been paying attention to the plot and not letting your anti-waifu reflex get in the way, you'd know that SOMETHING else is going on here.

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>I think of you as a Family
she has definatly moved out of daughter zone. but i still think family. band of brothers shit

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>What do you think?
That's the only logical thing. We're not a soul-bound partner nor an upstanding figure for her. We molded ourselves into what she wanted. Better yet,
>I'm the hero you wanted.

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>What do you think?
I think you're you and I'm me and that's all we needed to be.

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>>26551002
>You are mai waifu, I wubbles you.
>I wubbles you
>wubbles

That is fucking adorable. Whatever we say we are including that word.

>>26550946
Time to be sappy, ramble, mildly incoherent, and ultimately communicate nothing
<There is... love between us. I know that. The nature of that love is muddled, and confusing. It was the love of a parent for a daughter, before. But now... I don't know what it is. A wise knight once said to me that defining love is a tricky proposition, and I have come to understand that. He also told me to hold it close, but give it room. I will not shy from it... but I will not push it, either. The nature of my love for you has changed, but I'm not sure how, yet. Time will tell, and love will do as it does.>

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
It was mentioned threads ago that shadows "Love" for Abagail is closest to the "Agape" form of love, Unconditional love as it is. The love that made us follow her across the world and into madness.

But it's pretty clear we aren't really any kind of parental figure to her.
We were less mature than her when we met.
If there is a familial analogy at all, it would be closer to siblings, or step-siblings.

>>26551039
I like it. A bit too rambly but it's good.

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>I think of you as Family.

>>26551000
>We are a mannequin

You sure know how to terrify me, SM.

>>26550986
Technically shes the pedo.

>>26550946
<I don't know. This is all new for me.>

>>26551039
Yeah, it goes on a little long, but the core idea is solid.

>>26551060

At the moment you look like a normal human, but your indistinct shadow blob form has no eyeballs.

>>26551053
Just like an elderly gentelman caller.

>>26550946
>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>What do you think?

Got to go with these. See what she has to say, try and figure things out before making a decision.

>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>What do you think?

>>26551039
+ summa dat

writing

>>26550946
>I think of you as a daughter. Family.

>>26551063
"What's between us, Shadow?"
<I don't know - you've got twenty years on me, lady!>

>>26550946

<I do not know of any name for it. But there is a Bond between us. Ever since I met you in the cemetery in Jacobs Field, our Fates have been entwined... the first steps of my humanity came from you>
<To take a human persepective, As Shadow, I am younger than you, even more so now that you have grown, but As the reincarnation of an old elemental, I am older than your Uncle, Older than Flint's Angel even...>
<Despite this, we both grew with the other in our minds... nay, in our 'hearts'.>
<I do not know what this is, but we are joined in a way few could ever even dream of>

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>>26551077

I always imagined we had beady little eyes like pic related.

>>26550946
>Full waifu wooing mode.

We should really ask her how she's coping. She's spent more years in the Archonium than out of it and she just figured out she's a half-demon.

We should get her dad's diary from Fang. She deserves to read it.

>>26551119
Indeed. We should talk to Fang before we go, about that and other things.

I want to ask about something Michael said to Auriel in Ring City - he said that the angelic blessing (which is imprinted on her soul) was not gone, only dormant, and that it might be possible to reignite it. I figure if anyone knows about dicking with souls, it's Fang.

>>26551110
But if we are black how would you notice them?

>>26551161
I think the sage said something about using her dormant Spirit magic. We should get Adavan to teach her. Freja too since I think she also has Spirit magic.

>>26550946
>>Honestly...I don't know what to call it.
>>What do you think?

>>26551165
The goverment of fang totally sucks

>>26550946
Daughter. Always has been, always will be. No shadowy appendage's

You're not sure how to put it, so you just say it as plainly as you can. <There is love between us, Abby.>

Abigail draws back slightly. Her face turns redder than a a tomato. "Uh...um..."

You scramble to clarify. <Well, what I mean, is...that nature of that love...it's muddled. Confusing.>

"...I'm - I - well - I'm confused too." In her embarrassment, she abandons her telepathy. "I'm...not sure what to say."

<Me neither.> You stand in silence for a moment. But eventually...you do know what to say. <A knight you may have heard of told me that defining love is a tricky proposition. He told me to hold it close, but give it room. I will not shy from it, but I will not push it, either. The nature of my love for you has changed over time. But what that means...or what it is...I do not know. This is all new for me.>

By the time you've finished speaking, the blush has mostly left Abigail's face, replaced by a small smile. "To be honest, it's new for me, too."

<I guess it would be.>

"Um...here's what I think," she says. "I think...a lot happened. And...well...emotions were running high...so..." She sighs. "Why is this so hard?! Dammit!" You blink at the swear. She covers her mouth. "Um...sorry."

<...it's fine. Just didn't expect it.>

"Oh. Well...jeeze." She rubs the back of her neck. The blush begins to creep back. "I feel like you, sort of. But I guess...I think we should get to know each other better, before we...um...you know. Well, we need time." Her face firms up as she finally manages to settle on a point. "We've had time...but it was all spent while we were running, or surviving, or just trying not to die. We've never had time for each other. So...how about, at least as far as things between us go, we just think of it as a clean slate?"

>con't

>>26551183
I was never clear on whether Auriel had minor spirit magic or if that was a misinterpretation we made.

>>26551209
No appendages is fine, but she really isn't a daughter figure to us.
We were very childlike when we first met, and she has aged 11 years on us.

<...well...I don't think we should just forget about the Archonium. I couldn't.>

She shakes her head. "No, that's not what I mean. Just...let's not push into anything, and...outside of the rush, and the fear, and the drive...let's see how we do. See what I mean?"

>Yeah...I think I do. An actual relationship...without all the pressure.
>write in

>you will also ask her how she's holding up after this

>>26551224
All this spaghetti.
I love it.

>>26551241
>Yeah...I think I do. An actual relationship...without all the pressure.

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>>26551086
>people so worried about waifuing that they don't even realize that legitimately written romance is already happening within the story
and it makes me laugh my villainous laugh

>>26551192
I see what you did there.

goddamit, i enjoy shadow quest, but a /tg/ run romance is never going to work, especially with so many conflicting perspectives on both characters. i hope this wont ruin SQ for all of us

>>26551241
Things will happen as they will.

GO WITH THE FLOW SON

>>26551241
>Yeah...I think I do. An actual relationship...without all the pressure.
Well, we can try when we're not deciding the fate of the continent/the entire world.

>>26551241
>>Yeah...I think I do. An actual relationship...without all the pressure.

Though there is definitely going to be pressure, given all the troubles that await.
For now we are in a rare moment of calm

>>26551241

"Abby. I am not a man. I cannot love you like a man."

Guys, come on.

>>26551275

Consider it an experiment.

>>26551275
It's all good. /tg/ has been surprisingly mature so far. So many opportunities to go full waifu and they've kept to the characterization and his priorities.

>>26551275
If it was any other place, I'd agree. But if I've learned anything here, it's that SM knows his shit. It'll work out.

>>26551241
>>Yeah...I think I do. An actual relationship...without all the pressure.

I assume this refers to both a platonic as well as a romantic relationship. I don't mean to imply that we're committing to one or the other at this juncture.

>>26551241
<Very well.>

<Do you remember the night you invited me to dance? Perhaps, we could do that now, if you like.>

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>>26551268
>silly anons

>>26551293
I know right if anything we should romance an elemental like Hecate.

>>26551299
>/tg/ has been surprisingly mature so far.
hasn't /tg/ been a giant schizo so far?

>>26551293
So, did you, like, sit out the whole Archonium thing? I wouldn't blame you if you did - it went on kinda long. But you might have missed some character development.

>>26551293
That's a pretty big take back on the last decision.

>>26551241
I like what is happening, but unfortunately I can't see her other than little Abby-Sabby.

>>26551241

<So... About my promise to you from either 8 years, 5 months or 2 weeks ago....>

>>26551308
i like this

I HAVE COMETH! SPENDING A TOTAL OF THREE DAYS READING THROUGH 58 THREADS I HAVE NOW ARRIVED AT THE FRONTIER OF THE STORY I CAN NOW JOIN THE DEBATE! I AM FREEEEE!

>>26551301
>>26551299
>>26551295
i trust SM's writing, as long as there isnt another ring city, but its the players that worry me.
>rainbows
is a good example of just how disparate opinions can get, and even then i worry that people will hijack the relation to grant shadowy appendage. please fade to black in that case, SM.

>>26551326
I didn't think the Archonium was that bad. We got some fat xps out of it at least.

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>>26551345

Welcome to the party!

>>26551325
I've said they've been surprisingly mature based on the decisions that stuck, schizo or not. That doesn't mean they've been completely mature either.

>>26551345

SO NEW ANON! DO YOU CHOOSE TO DATE THE ABBY OR MAKE HER SADDY!?

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>>26551345
Welcome to the family Shadow Brother

>>26551350
Rainbows was us flailing when we couldn't think of an answer to a puzzle.

>>26551367
TO ME WE WILL ALWAYS BE HER ALMOST DADDY

>>26551375
What about the 02 bots?

>>26551241
>Yeah...I think I do. An actual relationship...without all the pressure.

>>26551350
>people will hijack the relation to grant shadowy appendage.

It's a benevolent dic(k)tatorship, remember? SM wouldn't let that happen unless he wanted it to.

>>26551375
Actually, it was a bunch of dumbasses insisting that "the first thing thing that I thought of" is a legitimate answer to a riddle.

>>26551389
that was pure stupidity

>>26551389
02 bots was hands down worse than RAINBOWS!

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>>26551397
Guess I'll post this. It's at it's most relevant.

>>26551381
You're good at rhymes. I like you.

So, uh, since i am new, did i miss some meta reasoning why we have not have not bought Shadefang Poison and and the consume passive?

>>26551375
but the other option was the correct one, and there was 300 posts saying RAINBOWS IS THE ONLY RIGHT ANSWER
YOUR MUM IS RAINBOWS
RAINBOWS, REALLY
etc. that was really stupid and showed just what a quest fanbase can do in the name of opinions
>>26551389
my point exactly. with romance, those failings are complicated further

>>26551389
As i have said before: A catastrophic self confidence failure, causing us to cave for fear of "offending" the robots and losing Steward's favor.

Still pure stupidity.

>>26551427
Poison isn't very good for our build.

You're all chewing the knobs.

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Honestly, I think an anon a few threads ago put it best. We're not so much her "father" but considering our age and total development at the time I prefer to look at ourselves as the older kid taking care of the younger kid (older foster brother) who took on the role of father to the younger child. And with time that has naturally developed into the raw beginnings of an actual relationship. Lets just see what happens

>>26551445
But we would finish the Shape(?) tree. And therefore gain a passive wouldn't we?

>>26551445
why not? seeing as we attack physically most of the time anyway.

>>26551460
We end fights too quickly with our strength buffs. Poison is more for drawn out mage fights with some physical stuff thrown in. SM confirmed.

>>26551427
Shadefang poison is expensive and has a percentile chance of working anyways.
There isn't really a "consume passive"

>>26551438
The only other option that people were going for at the time was the Moon/Eclipse, which would also have been wrong.

>>26551445
SM said we've poisoned a few times, but honestly beast through most things before full effect.
>like how in our fight while disguised and Jun our poison stopped our foe from regenerating his arm but we killed him with the next attack and it didn't matter

the tree that has poison in it is 3/4s not poison at all.

>>26551460
I think the point is that we focus on blasting our enemies with so much piss that they're dead in 1-3 rounds. That's why a DoT isn't so good for us.

>>26551489
>There isn't really a "consume passive"
There isn't? Is that some meta SM has revealed and i didn't catch?

>>26551478
A lot of our fights with mages get drawn out though.
Poision would have been dead handy against the penguin.

<I think I do,> you say slowly. <An actual relationship...without all the pressure.>

Abigail nods, and her smile widens. "Yeah."

<...then...>

You hesitate for a long time.

There is something darker than your Temerity that trembles inside of you.

It is fear.

Will she reject you?

"...then what?" Abigail asks.

<Where I'm going...there will be a lot of pressure,> you say. <It won't be an easy road. What I am thrusts me into the center of the conflicts that tear at Venia. If you walk with me...if peace is what you seak, maybe you just deserve someone normal. I...>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACQIoZ8Nn8Q

Abigail embraces you.

You didn't expect it. She holds you tight, keeping her arms wrapped around your lower back. You gently hug her in return.

She lets you go, and gives you a stern look. "It took you a bit...but you kept your promise. It's my turn to protect you."

<Abby...>

She puts her hands on her hips. "Abby what? 'Abby, don't come, it could be dangerous? Abby, I'm an elemental, how can our love ever be? Abby, blah-blah-blah, I'm worried things won't work out because of things that haven't even happened yet?' Jeeze, Shadow, why'd you think I came out here to talk if you didn't think I'd already thought over those things a hundred times already?" She drops her arms and grins. "Besides, you still owe me a dance."

<...y-you too.>

"Huh?"

<Actually...I don't know how to dance.>

Abigail looks surprised, and then she giggles. "Yeah, I guess you wouldn't, huh? Well, you learn fast. And you can just grow extra legs if you need to balance, anyway."

<Huh. I guess so.> You nod to her. <I'm glad we spoke, Abby. I'm...very glad.>

"Me too."

<...I know...> You step a bit closer to her. <...I was in there for a long time. You were in there even longer.>

Her focus fades. She just nods. "...I was."

<If you ever want to talk about it...I'm here.>

"Yeah. I know."

>do you say anything else to Abigail?
>write-in

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>>26551489
true, but still, rainbow? who honestly thought Silence would throw out rainbow for any reason?

>>26551522
we could never touch the bastard to get it to work

>>26551459
We already got the shape-tree passive from fusing with Isolation on double 100's.
And we don't know if getting shadefang will give us anything else.

We are going to end up getting it eventually, to fill out the big grey section.

>>26551520
I'm not sure where you got the impression that there -was- one.
Well, there was Parasitic-Vampiric-Viral, which gave little bonuses, but we've got all of those and they don't lead to anything else Consumey.

>do you say anything else to Abigail?
"I don't think anyone else should go through what we had to. It has ruined too many. Killed too many. "

>>26551530
<Thank you.>

>>26551530
Get back to questing and the real world.

>>26551530
Tell her about her dad's diary.

>>26551541
We hurt him pretty bad at one point. I just assumed we managed to nick him.

Whatever I didnt really want poison anyway I was just wondering.

>>26551552
>We already got the shape-tree passive from fusing with Isolation on double 100's.
Ah i didn't catch this.I knew there were something i had missed.

>>26551553
She's already been through part of that. Archonium and all.

>>26551530
><...y-you too.>
Oh, you.

Talk to her about those wings we promised.

>>26551530
<Thanks, my angel>

>>26551577
I'm leading up to us CONSUMING it.

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>>26551530
><...y-you too.>

>>26551530

we do need to bring up the old promise of using Servant on her... It is her call, but we did promise...

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>>26551530
><...y-you too.>

if we do mention servant we should mention the stage beyond it as well.

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>>26551530
not to start anything, but c'mon she's earned Servant

>>26551585
A man with priorities.

>>26551612

daggum is that OC

>>26551530
This is some serious freudian shit right here.

>>26551636
i try, seemed appropriate

>>26551636
Looks like a Ragnarok Online PC so I don't think so.

Okay, mention dad's diary, the archonium itself.

Writing.

>>26551677
making her an angel.....

>>26551637
Freud was on drugs I reckon he was bullsihtting half the time.

>>26551692
And?

>>26551637
exactly she knows the only thing that will come from human-elemental relations is a horrible demi-human monster( If we are fertile ). Which is why we should be romancing other elementals like ourselves. (This begs the question of whether we can have elemental offspring )

>>26551700
Fuck him?

>>26551702
Nah it is more that we have for a long time been a father figure for her. Would be weird no?

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>Dave pre-tentacle-ification
Yes, I realize the filename "Angel of Chaos" is kinda ironic.

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>>26551702
Abby: Shadow, I'm pregnant
Shadow: XD
Abby: and Flint's the father
Shadow.....

>>26551717
We as players have seen ourselves as a father figure somewhat, but we really haven't been.

>>26551702

Well, if the Archonium vision is anything to go by, we're incapable of fathering kids.

Then again, I'm not sure whether we can trust any of the "real world" knowledge we may have gained from the vision.

Guys, is it possible that the Elf Queen's message wasn't a true message, but instead Shadow's desire to somehow be free from the petty conflicts that divide Venia? What if the new Order/Chaos dichotomy was Shadow's attempt to consolidate his understanding of the world?

I doubt SM would throw this angle at us and then later back down, but it's an interesting thought.

>>26551692
Freud's entire psychological theorems were just him projecting his obsession for his mother and his repressed homosexual desires on the rest of the human psyche. It's bullshit but it has little to do with drugs.

>>26551702
Shadow isn't an element. We're not an elemental.

>>26551727
Except for taking care of her when her parents died? We are the father, Adavan is the mother?

>>26551727
Aw well, we can play father figure to all the shadow and spirit mages we freed.

>>26551530
<Now, Abby... I do believe I made you a promise a long time ago. Well, a long time from your perspective, but... gah, this time business is confusing. I'm sorry, let me start over.>
<I know you aren't a little girl anymore, but... are you too grown up to want the pair of wings I promised you?>

You tell Abigail about your current goal - to find the staff of winds and help Sir Flint. She's shocked by the news of the Shel'kath - which she never knew of while she was just a girl - but resolves to help you as much for Flint's sake as yours.

<Before the battle at Evinbrook,> you say, <I went back to Jacob's Field...and I investigated your home.>

Abigail nods. "I remember when you told me, back...inside."

<Your father write a diary. The archmage has it now, but if you asked, I think he'd probably return it to you.>

"I see." She sighs. "That means I'll have to talk to him again."

<About the archonium...> You eye her. <How would you feel if it...just went away?>

"Fan-fuckingtastic," she spits. You blanch in terror. Abigail bites her lip, then coughs. "Uh...for a while, I thought saying bad words without anyone to tell me to stop was...cool. Got boring fast."

<...oh.>

"Um...anyway...if it went away...I sure wouldn't complain."

The balcony door opens. You both turn toward the sound.

>con't

>>26551723
But he has tentacles in that pic.

>>26551677
SM can we get other elementals "pregnant"? If not is there a way fro elementals to reproduce?

>>26551740
Im just saying that I bet all the drugs didnt do him any favors.

>>26551740
Yup. Exactly what i meant when i said freudian.

>>26551755
WE ORDER BRAH
WE CAN'T BE MAKING NO BABBIES WITH BEINGS OF MAGIC
DAT CHAOS SHIT IS TOO WHACK YO

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>>26551744
>"Uh...for a while, I thought saying bad words without anyone to tell me to stop was...cool. Got boring fast."

>>26551755
Bash their heads together until they combine into something new?

>>26551745
It's actually a snake. But even if it was a tentacle, he's still more man than shadowy appendage pile here.

>>26551741
We didn't take care of her. We hung out for a day as some sort of psuedo-pet and then she got carried around by Adavan and then adopted by Fang.

>>26551767
Can we get Chaos pregnant?

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Fang is there. He looks at Abigail. She stares back at him, silent. He clears his throat. "...about your position here."

"I don't - "

"Please," Fang says. The word sounds odd in his mouth. Rusty. "Let me finish. Please, Abigail."

Abigail folds her arms, but nods.

Fang looks past you both, out over the city. "A long time ago...my father sent me into the Archonium. I was 22 years old - 13 years more experienced than you. I only spent months inside, but what I experienced there..." He stops, shakes his head. "I never forgave him. I thought that, my family...when I...when my son..." Fang's jaw clenches tight. "It doesn't matter anymore. But I thought that I would do things differently. I thought that, despite having changed by that thing, I would be better than him. I was wrong. It is only now that I realize...truly understand how he felt. Moreso, even. The pressure on his shoulders to compete with angels that have hundreds of years of experience, veterans of a war that tore our world into pieces. The sheer desperation."

"Don't spoon me justifications," Abigail says. They're harsh words, but her voice is quiet. "Just say what you wish to say."

"I do not expect your forgiveness," Fang says. "I do not deserve it. But I did what I did because I believed that you...would fix my mistakes. That you could bring Archon to a better place. That under your leadership...maybe you would not need such a terrible thing any longer." He inhales, straightens, and looks at her. "Should you wish, with your current strength, a seat on the council could be yours. I don't wish to hear your answer immediately. But...there are many people in this city that could use your strength."

>con't

>>26551777

Even if we can't, Sorry is now obligated to write smut of it....

How much shame can one man gather before it becomes his pride?

>>26550636
The last one is nice at least.

>>26551776
But she clearly formed a bond, most likely for her a fatherly bond. Since she needed someone to replace her parents when they died. We are more like a negligent father who came riding in when she was in trouble. This is clearly an unhealthy obsession for her.

>>26551813
>That under your leadership...maybe you would not need such a terrible thing any longer.
Changed my mind, I'm with the COMSUME ARCHONIUM people now!

>>26551825
It could have just as easily been a precocious crush. Which is more likely considering what it turned into.

>>26551814
> and thus Balance was born

>>26551847
I was posting lots of doom and gloom about it, and I wanted to eat it eventually.

I just wanted to do it after establishing a reason other than reactive anger, working around the consequences of it's disappearance, and hopefully after finding out a little bit more about the device's origin.

With fang siding with "Get rid of it" I'm feeling a bit less worried.

>>26551848
Directly after she lost her parents? It is much more likely we replaced an already existing role in her life. Particularly since she was so young and highly dependent on her parents.

"Are you serious about what you said?" Abigail asks. "About the Archonium?"

A fire lights in Fang's eyes, a fierceness that you haven't seen since he blasted through the Palthair mines. "Abigail, I hate that thing more than you can possibly imagine."

"I seriously doubt that," Abigail says. She glances at you. "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?"

Even though the words are telepathic, you can feel the spit you put into them. <I'm thinking -exactly- what you're thinking.>

Abigail storms foward, brushing past her uncle. You stay right on her tail. Fang hurredly follows, and you draw Adavan along when you pass through the entrance ot Fang's tower. In short order, she leads you back through the halls and into the Archonium's chamber.

"Shadow," she says. She gestures toward the artifact with an inviting hand.

<With pleasure.>

"Wait," Fang says. "You're not going to - "

Abigail turns on him in an instant. "You want me to consider what you said? Then prove it."

"...I understand what you mean," Fang says. "But if you destroy this thing...Archon is not in a position where the council at large could approve or even appreciate this move. You could never be a councilor. You would be run out of the city."

"Then I don't want to be a councilor. And we'll be leaving shortly, anyway."

"Abby - "

"Don't even try it," Abigail says. "You want me to give you a chance? Here it is." She strides up to him, and in that moment you see the Empress within her. "Do you have a single ounce of your heart left? Do you care at all for me? Did you care about my father?"

"...I loved your father," Fang says quietly. "He was my brother."

"Then shut up and stand back. Or, prove you're a hypocrite, and try and stop us."

Fang's lips move as his brain rattles for the words. But after a moment, he drops his hand, closes his mouth, and takes a step back.

Abigail looks to you expectantly.

>CONSUME the Archonium
>...no. Not yet. (write-in)

>>26551814
I am unsure if it is possible to write smut about an abstract concept.
Besides, I have to work on Hamil x Tyrael. It been difficult, because I do not grasp the nuances of homosexual copulation - also, I keep looking away involuntarily every time I attempt to investigate. But I feel like it needs to be written, so I press forward.

>>26551886
I'd actually put Adavan in the father roll, or Flint. Both have shown that sorta care for us... however we have been her knight in shadowy armor. Protecting rather then nuturing.

>>26551901
CONSUME

>>26551886
She knew us for a day or so, we could barely even communicate, and then she spent 3 months being taken care of by Adavan. Adavan is more a father figure than us. She developed her feelings after those three months.

>>26551901
The only reason I would wait on it would be to take time and repair Isolation so we can use hunger on the archonium safely and possibly raise the result.

>>26551901
<I will do it if you wish me to, however, he may be correct. Removing it may destabilize the political situation.>

>>26551901
>CONSUME the Archonium

>>26551901
consume it, ask fang if he truly wants to change the world

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>>26551901
IT'S TIME. CONSUME.

>>26551901
We have to see this as a whole and be responsible. Despite being a horrible contraption, the immense use you can get from stopping time and having a demiplane is to valuable to waste. We need to be BOTH temerity and humanity. We are judgement. Sometimes we need to stay cool.

>>26551928
>>26551901
Would this actually help us SM?

>>26551901
>time to CONSUME

>>26551901
Eat that shit, yo.

>>26551901
>>CONSUME the Archonium

And speak.

<Fang, you profess that you do what is necessary - even when it is questionable. If what you told me about Abigail - about the experiment you did with your brother, and about the hope you have for her - is true, then this... thing is no longer necessary. As you said yourself, if Abigail fails, the city is doomed regardless.>

And then CONSUME

>>26551939
This.
Then end up CONSUMING it anyway, because we all know it'll end that way, even those of us who don't want it to.

>>26551959
>>26551928

nah won't make a difference

>>26551901
Eat that fuckin Archonium son.

>>26551901
>...no. Not yet. (write-in)
this thing can churn out powerful and focused mages also Abby could never be the ruler if we CONSUME it now. Would Goku destroy the hyperbolic time chamber?

>>26551901
>CONSUME the Archonium

>>26551901
<Abby, as much as i wish this door into nothingness Fang has a point. If not for his sake then for the people of Archon, would you leave Fang to be fed to the wolves that destroying this dorr would stir up while we fight kingdoms away? Would you destroy Archon and her people, the one good thing he has tried to leave you in this world?>

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>>26551901
<What say you, Darkxis?>
>Darkxis' face when

>>26551901
Can I suggest instead of 2d50 we do something like 4d25?

Ask her if she's doubly sure. This is a pretty big step, and we don't want her to ruin her future

>>26551901
>CONSUME the Archonium

>>26551901
>no

>>26551901
<I am not fond of this thing>

Hunger... hungers.

>>26551983
It was a future she was forced into.

>>26551928
i'll second this, also gives us time to explain to fang that he needs to see the world as it is to his niece

>>26551981
>still not shopped with Darkxis face....

>>26551901
>CONSUME the Archonium

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>>26551979
>>26551901
>...no. Not yet. (write-in)

>>26551901
>CONSUME

<Fang, you tricked Abigail into the Archonium so that she may lead Archon. Were she not strong enough to rally the council around her simply because a magical trinket disappeared, then there was no point to putting her through those trials at all. We don't need this anymore. Change is coming.>

>>26551981
<THIS ONE'S FER YOU MAH SECOND NIGGAH!>
OMNOMNOMNOMNOM

>>26551914
Hmmm you might be right. Adavan is more the father role. We are more te mother role. Making this even more freudian.

>>26551920
If you mean that she did not develop a bond after the first meeting, then you have clearly read a different story then me.

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>All of these idiots actually saying no.

>>26551901
>>CONSUME the Archonium
Hells yes
All my yes
No one will have to go through uncomfortable bullshit like that ever again

To the anti CONSUMErs... SM himself said he recommend eating it. We are going to be facing two demon lords sooner or later.

>>26552029
Why should we eat it? Can't you see the potential?

>>26552033
>SM recommended it
Not that I'm anti-consume, but that's not a good reason to do anything.

>>26551901
I think people are saying no because we need Archon to fight and i doubt they'd do it if the whole city was in chaos from us eating the gate

>>26552041
What potential?

>>26552032
it made us stronger though didn't it? We also learned a lot about ourselves. Imagine if we threw Flint in.

>>26552028
All I'm saying is that you're making it a parental bond when it doesn't really seem like it.

>>26552029
I'm sorry for momentarily pausing before rushing into a clearly important decision.

>>26551901
hold off for a little while, explain to fang that this is the only thing he can do to not have his niece kill him. then we eat it after getting hunger to resonant

>>26552051
The potential of a time-slowed demiplane.

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>>26551983
What, so we'd have a more boring roll?


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>>26552041
i see 2d50 experience for eating. what is there to gain by leaving it?

>>26552051
its potential to create powerful mages

>>26552041
you have to go through soul searching bullshit every time you go in on your own and cant take anything from there with you.
The only potential it has is as potential exp.

>>26552058
There were a bond. Do you agree on that?

>>26552041
>Can't you see the potential?

Go away, Fang.

>>26552032
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>>26552041

I was one of the anti-consumers last thread, but hasn't SM stated that the souls trapped within are doomed?

It would be morally wrong to kill innocents who were probably thrown into the Archonium for reasons just like Abigail.

Yes, we need the power.

But haven't we gotten so far without breaking our code?

>>26552055
And then he didn't come out and if he did he'd be older and horribly bitter and broken.

>>26552066
It's ruined now anyway.

>>26552074
Why couldn't we change it?

>>26552050
This is the simple and honest truth.

We need a politically stable Archon, considering there's a belligerent demon army on the doorsteps of every nation, and the angelic dictatorship.

>>26552066
ummm..... no? There's a lot more to the Archonium than just that, and the extra's aren't gonna help sell that shit

>>26552079
we could go get him just like we did with Abigail

>>26552078
They're dead jim, they all die from the time accell.

It KILLS people 25% of the people who go in NEVER leave.

It also turns them into ruthless powermongers as evidenced by Fang.

>>26552075
Yes. I've agreed on that the whole time. You seeming to think it has to be either a fatherly or motherly one was the only thing I found disagreeable.

There's more debate on this than I suspected.

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On one hand, you've got a sort of way to speed up time to train powerful mages...although it is really a lot more dangerous than that. You've also got Abigail's future in Archon to consider; it's immediate political suicide for her to destroy this thing.

On the other hand, she doesn't seem to care all that much about a political position in Archon. Her face tells you she's never been more sure of anything in her entire life.

And frankly, you wouldn't be sad to see it go.

Fang already told you that everyone in the archonium that didn't make it out is dead. It's not a memorial...it's a gravestone.

What do you do?

Vote 1:
>consume

Vote 2:
>No...not yet.

>>26552073
At the cost of losing a decent portion of them? How wonderful

>>26552078
Doomed.
As in, we shouldn't care about them because we can't possibly save them.
If anything, it would end their misery.

>>26552078
He said they are allready dead because lol magic time bullshit.
>>26552086
How the fuck do we do that? its older than elemental lords.

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>>26552078
They. Are. Dead. This has been stated - there is no one trapped in eternal purgatory.

They all died of old age.

>>26552096
That's fucking stupid and dangerous.

>>26552050
this plain and simple. are we forgetting the war coming. not saying don't eat it, but would leaving Archon in turmoil is not good

>>26552111
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