>>26316219
Are you sure it didn't just autosage off the bottom? Because that's a thing that happens.
Not everything is a mod or janitor conspiracy.

>>26316219
It wasn't a mod, It fell off the board due to being in autosage.

Mods = Gods

>>26316219
You must be new to 4chan. It's called autosage.

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So, since our last thread self-destructed, here's what I've taken from everyone's criticism so far.

A) You want to play as someone other than an established Bat character. No alternate universe nonsense will suffice, it must be someone entirely new.

B) Some of you just don't want to play in anything even related to Batman. To those of you I pose the question: would a Quest set in Middle-Earth interest you more? That's another thing I've been considering lately.

C) You want to build up your character and have your choices affect the world around you. I've already tried to do some of this with the inclusion of a stat sheet and gear, but I understand I could go much further. Experience points, a network of allies, etc etc

Anything I'm missing?

>>26316295
>would a Quest set in Middle-Earth interest you more?

Honestly, I'd prefer something in a unique setting. There are far too many quests where you're in an established setting.
I'd probably take a look at it, though I didn't for Batman, but I'd prefer something new.

>>26316295
You are sort of getting it. Here are my thoughts.

A) Would be fun if we played as Bruce Wayne right off the plane, then seeing just how different our universe became from the canon would be fun. We would make our own events, some new enemies some classic things like that.

B) Too vague, you don't really seem to have a firm idea and just throw out ideas and hope you make the magical combination of words. Setting is not as important as how you write. Having a firm idea, making characters interesting, and being able to have at least one or two parts of story telling you are really good at (Combat porn, artful descriptions, well timed and executed twists, etc.) are fundamentally more important and seem to be something you are lacking.

C) Yes, I want what we do to have some effect, but I don't think you get it still. Having what we do effecting the world around us doesn't mean getting experience points. It means effecting other characters, changing the world(Maybe investments cause certain parts of the city to thrive while forcing others to become cess pools) Making the public opinion of the character change based on what happened in past threads, such as making NPCs more afraid or less afraid, some actions will call for such a loss of the public trust the police start working against you, etc.

Polite sage for weekday QTG and the shameful OP.

>>26316295
I would also like to bring Terry back up as a prospective Quest in the future. Maybe change up his setting a little based on what happens in this current quest. Again, just a suggestion for the future.

>>26316295
B: Honestly, I'm not even a Batman fan (and I *am* a LotR fan) but I'd prefer something set in some variant of the Batman set-up than Middle Earth. Even if it's just "Random Gotham Citizen #25,256 Quest", that seems like it has a lot of potential.

C) XP is a bad idea unless it's meaningless. Allies are always fun!

>>26316295
Why not just play as a new batman, after the last one got old and died abruptly? Then have the new character have to deal with stepping into the shoes of the old one, as well as all of his own issues.

>>26316219
>not understanding what autosage is
>not knowing what falling off the board means
Questfags, stop embarrassing me.

>>26316088
>No, it is not another vote for Canadian batman. If done so that we are just some guy on the street who takes up his own thing and starts working his way up taming a wild city? Then yes, canadian batman, what ever.

>Why not do the whole thing original? As another anon said doing something in the spirit of batman would be much more interesting then the quest as is.
Quoting this anon because he speaks wisdom. Also, I'm the "another anon."

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>>26316295

>quest in another world

There's another setting where a stealth-oriented hero isn't afraid of mixing things up in hand to hand combat, using weird items and gadgets or fighting kooky themed enemies that no one's tried yet.

I'd shy away from Middle Earth, though I'd be interested to see how it could work.

>>26316295
Trazyn the Infinite quest. It's basically batman if he was a fa/tg/uy and a self obsessed dick. Should be pretty writeable.

>>26316295
Remember, the more granularity you give fatguys the more they will argue about it (arguing being the only thing we love more than gaming). If you want to go that route let them know there are mechanics, but DONT TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE. Play things behind the screen as much as possible and keep them focused on the big picture instead of power gaming.

>>26317003
>Neckbeard Batman Quest
Now we're getting somewhere.

>parents were killed as a teenager
>through clever/lucky investment of his parents' life insurance and his autismbucks, he builds up a small fortune
>becomes...the Fatman

>>26317202
11/10, would sperg over.

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>>26316219
IRC: #ques/tg/enerals @ Rizon.net
HOW 2 QUESTING : STARTARS GUYDE by elusive guidefag:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1emQ6IYzRYN4MG45Zl9a-0UH0ARuWLaBB_U924NXc-DY/pub

Stuff about writing things : http://litreactor.com/columns/on-dialogue-tags-why-anything-besides-said-and-asked-is-lazy-writing
http://www.writing-world.com/grammar/said.shtml
http://www.grammarbook.com/

I hope that hobo samurai QM doesn't just quit after the first thread. It was pretty cool.

>>26316726
I'd play a batman beyond quest.

>>26318641
I would play that as well. Which QM would be good at bad ends?

>>26316295

I have to say:

Your quest is of exceedingly high quality. Seriously, it's really, really good. However, I would guess that the main reason why it isn't more popular is because it's also very, very intimidating.

It's slightly hard to get into the mindset of an established character...However, don't consider that a bad thing, necessarily. You do Batman better than anyone I've seen do 'Batman' before.

So yeah, consider this a big thumbs-up on my part. If you wanted to draw more people, you'd probably have to go with a Quest that has inherently more mass appeal...But I think you're doing an amazing job with what you have so far.

I like what I've seen, and I hope you'd keep it up - But I also understand if you want to draw in a bigger audience.

I'm struggling to describe this, but I feel that /tg/ usually wants a protagonist they can project themselves on. The way the main character of Joker Quest is (mostly) a blank slate, despite his backstory: There's no worry about having to stay 'in character', because his personality is what anyone makes of him.

With Batman, you naturally want to stay as Batman as possible.

okay, guys, I've been patient, but this is a bit worrying- no news from Cosgrove for three days.

Does anyone know anything?

I need my bleach quest fix...

>>26318899
>three days
Boo fucking hoo, you big baby. One quest just updated after a YEAR of inactivity.

>>26318899
inb4 it goes the way of "Magical" Girl Quest or Katawa Yandere.

>>26318899
> 3 days
We're quite spoiled, huh?

>>26318899
Honestly, I'm glad he's slowing down a bit.

Risked burning out the way he was going.

Now ideally the story itself might draw things out a bit as well, since a lot of things are going to start happening really really fast, and while I can appreciate him wanting to finish the quest before Kubo finishes the manga, I don't really want it to end before Kubo's hiatus does.

>>26318938
It's been 2 days I thought.

>>26318938

It tends to run for hours upon hours when it does run, doesn't it? Maybe the QM just needs a break. Or the Beyond People that haunt this world, ravenous for new tales, have taken him to the same shadowy realm that swallowed HPQuest, Femcock and dozens upon dozens of other disappeared QMs. Wherever they may be, we can only hope they are well, and that eventually the Beyond People see fit to let them have the internet again.

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>>26318993
At least we know it's possible to come back.

>>26318938
We really are.

>>26318919
When I say no news, I mean no news.
It has me worried about Cosgrove, not just the quest. The guy's dedicated and determined, and while >>26318972 has a point, it's not like he said "no quest tomorrow, I need a break."

>>26318978
has it?
I've lost track of my sense of time, then. My bad.

>>26319009
>from the depths of hell
>uses Clow's Magical Circle

>>26318993
I just... I just want Metahuman Renaissance again. Please.

Come back to me, Omega.

Come back to US.

>>26319062
Man I still miss Megacorp Quest.

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>>26319031
It is clearly High Priest Yukito's Magic Circle.

Clow's looks like this.

And I didn't know about either of them until like right now.

>>26318938
Pretty sure he ran part 32 on Saturday, so on the easy coast we are still 18 minutes away from it being 3 days since he ran, on that fucking great cliffhanger

>>26319031
An anonymous QM that some suspected to be Cosgrove was moustache-twirling about rustling waifufags' jimmies in the last QTG. If that was indeed Cosgrove, then he's probably busy scheming.

>>26319146
Dude's really pushing the envelope.

Although hopefully that means that we can get that whole plotline resolved pretty soon.

>>26319177
It's funny how people automatically assumed it was him just because he mentioned harem shit.

>>26319177
True, but Bleach Quest's problem is hareming, not waifuing.

Like waifuing would imply being fixated on only one character.

And as has been pointed out, we never asked for this.

In the quest itself, beyond some chumpery in the waiting for posts.

>>26319210
He mentioned waifu shit, not harem shit.

It was just the sadism that got everyone suspicious.

Well speak of the devil, and he shall tweet.

>>26319214
>implying harems aren't just collections of waifus
It's like a flock of birds, or a school of fish. A harem of waifus.

>>26319246
BASED COSGROVE

>>26316219
Quest threads should always die

>>26319293
...You don't need an account to view it, you know.

His handle is 'QuestOP' which is a little presumptuous, but fine.

>>26319346
Thanks, I realized that shortly after posting.

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>>26319343
Threadar morghulis, anon. Threadar morghulis.

Pic related.

>>26319346
Twitters and quest ops never combine well.

>>26319263
Still, the fact remains that within the quest itself, the only time we actually pursued someone romantically was when we flirted with Rukia way back when.

The only reason we got into the current relationship is the two girls invited us into a small room and locked the door behind us.

So to say we're 'waifuhappy', when he's the one who writes chicks apparently digging us, seems disingenuous.

Which is why it might not be him.

>>26318924
>"Magical" Girl Quest
That was below the belt, man.

>>26319426
The waifu stuff in Bleach Quest gets exaggerated because people joke about it a lot in-between posts and some anons take it too seriously.

>>26319246
>>26319337
Welp, looks like my Derp Heresy 2.0 game tomorrow is going to have a sleepless GM hopped up on a hellish mix of caffeine, booze, and pain meds, because I'm not getting any sleep tonight.

You fool Cosgrove, you've doomed my players. You've doomed them all! Nah, they were doomed anyway. Now I'll just be too gone to hear their pathetic pleas for mercy.

>>26319485
Lets just hope Cosgrove doesn't also take it seriously.

>>26316905
I would pay actual money for a Metal Gear Solid Quest.

>>26319526
How much? I can try something.

>>26319516
If he did then Tatsuki would've pulled something by now.

>>26319539
Five cents.

>>26319566
Ehhh. Nah.

Well apparently Cosgrove is not the culprit.

But... Who is?

>>26319858
Internal Revenue maybe? People were kinda pulling hard on Ella.

>>26319893
>>26319858
>Implying there is a culprit
>Implying it wasn't anon trying to rustle jimmies

>>26319481
>implying MGQ has anything to do with magic or girls or magical girls or quests

Just another day on /40k/

>>26320086
...what? Wasn't that anon implying that it hurt to be reminded of MGQ because he had enjoyed it?

Hey /tg I was thinking of starting a quest and I have a few ideas laid out but I have a fairly significant problem.
I am shit tier at thinking up dialogue for various NPC's .
How do I go about fixing this and where can I go to practice so I don't shit up /tg/ with more quests that die after two threads?

>>26319526
I've been thinking about it, but to give it that real "metal gear" vibe I need to include long bits of writefagging, and that takes time.

If there's interest I could start prepping, and maybe I'd be ready to run it in about a month or so.

>>26319426
>>26319485
The problem isn't the two female leads (Momo and Orihime, while unconventional, could have worked well.)

but throw in some cute female Hollows (harribel and the Three Beasts), and now everyone's getting waifu-mad over moe arrancar and such bullshit.

I appreciate having allies in it, I really do. just stop fapping behind the screen whenever they're describes, faggots!

I seriously hope they either betray the party or get ganked; it's lead to something other than the waifuing

>>26320457
A writing teacher of mine suggested going to a public place, like a coffee shop, and listen in on the conversations, to pick up the rhythms of speech. Try and write out a dialog or two, based on what you've learned.

Alternately, watch a lot of movies focused on character interaction (romcoms and Taratino are a weird but effective blend)

To answer that guy asking about another Batman Quest, we really don't need it. I always found the idea of roleplaying Batman kinda dumb. Controlling him in a videogame, sure, but trying to BE the Batman just strikes me as...stupid. Don't know why. Maybe because for all the flak the anime quests get for being fanfiction, yours is LITERALLY fanfiction and metagamey as all hell since everyone already knows how Bats and his Rogues Gallery operate.

>>26320596
>>26320596
Stop taking it so fucking seriously faggot. People. Are. Joking. No one is actually trying to play matchmaker, no one is actually trying to get Chizuru to fuck some of our bitches. It's small talk while we wait for posts.

>>26320760
...And anime quests are LITERALLY fanfiction as well.

>>26320815
Sometimes they try to just be set in the same universe and ignore all the major characters of the anime, but this guy is just straight up HURR DURR IM DA BAMAN. Even all those shitty fatestay quests usually have you as someone other than Shirou.

Mechengineer and House Karban quest where art thou?

>>26320859
>I find this idea unattractive therefore it's retarded
He's a decent QM and people are enjoying it. Get the fuck over it, no one is forcing you to play these things.

>>26320859
The most popular quest on /tg/ is HURR DURR IM DA ICHIGO.

>>26320596
>Harribel
>cute
>not distant and untouchable
>no terrorousal
I can't schlick to this.

>>26320929
Popularity =/= good.

>>26320913
Yeah, I find it kinda dumb. That was sort of the whole point of the post. I know that the Batman guy is always complaining about not having enough viewers and was asking what folks wanted out of his quest, so I gave him my opinion and my reason for not participating. I never told him to stop running it. Looking back, I will admit that I worded
>we really don't need it
Badly, but what I meant by that is -I- personally wasn't interested in it and here is my reason why.

Sorry for the miscommunication and by all means keep doing your thing, just giving my two cents.

>>26320980
What, you think Bleach Quest is bad?

>>26320943
There was plenty of terrorousal around the time she cut off our arm and most of our leg.

That was pretty terrifying. There just hasn't been a chance for her to dismember anyone since then.

>>26321012
It's cancer.

>>26320980
There's nothing wrong with Bleach Quest. And considering all the plot twists that's way more vulnerable to metagaming. I mean really? "Everyone already knows how BAts and his rogues gallery operate"? You know who else knows that? Batman.

>>26321005
No problem. I probably over reacted as well.

>>26321025
Well, too bad 30+ people disagree with you every night.

cancer

>>26320929
I was under the impression that Bleach Quest was purposely playing itself for laughs.

But I haven't read it, so I dunno.

>>26321095
It is for the most part. Over time some people get a little too invested for that to be completely accurate.

>>26321095
Its so serious, the QM showed up to bitch about waifufags and brag about how he was gonna fluster their butts with his SO SAD stick or something.

>>26321183
That wasn't actually the QM. I'm starting to think that was just some prank to freak people out. I mean "waifu fags are getting out of control"? Doesn't get more broad and general than that.

>>26321095
>>26321134
I don't follow it specifically because I'd only be in it to bone Harribel. Because that's the only thing that kept me paying attention to the series for a little while there before I lost interest again.

I wouldn't exactly be the best participant.

>>26321217
Cosgrove loves to avatarfag as that cat thing from Pull Magic Mydicka, and that fucking bear thing from Tumbljrpg

>>26321238
Neither of those were in the post though.

>>26320457
Don't write actual dialogue. Just have paraphrase through narration, with the occasional quotation for emphasis or comedic effect.

>The professor adjusts his glasses and calmly states that your plan is not going to work.

>The paladin and the sorceress bicker back and forth with mounting vitriol. The gist of it seems to be that the former is "a narrow-minded godfellator" and that the latter is "a demonbuggering whore." You get the feeling that you should direct their attention elsewhere.

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>>26321238
All fucking QMs like to use Coobie when they are posting vaguely ominous questions.

This proves nothing.

>>26321289
>All fucking QMs like to use Coobie when they are posting vaguely ominous questions.
Which is the dumbest meme.

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>>26321273

>telling, not showing

>>26321289
I am so fucking sick of it. "OH MAN I MAEK U ROLL DICE HOW SINISTER AM I and here's another waifu BUT BE CAREFUL I SWER ON ME MUM ILL REK U M8"

Shadowmaster is particularly guilty of that shit.

>>26321183
That was obviously <QM>.

Just like that one shitposter in <thread> who was totally anon. <QM> Is cancer on this board.

Feel free to insert whatever quest runner you want in <QM>. Perfect copypasta.

I'm still enjoying the shit storm that is Meta Game Quest

Can that get riled up again?

>>26321311
I would hardly call it a meme.

It's getting a little old now, but it doesn't really do any harm.

>>26321289

>all faggot QMs

Quests are okay. Waifu quests like Lamia Daughter and Bleach Quest should be permabannable offenses.

>>26321332
It's perfectly acceptable to not actually write spoken dialogue.

>>26320929
The vast, disgusting amount of ripoff quests on this board is awful.
Tgchan may be elitist as fuck but at least they understand this sort of thing isn't acceptable.

>>26321349
Its totally a meme, seeing as its use is entirely memetic.

>>26321435
Tgchan is furry as fuck.

>>26321435
You act as if their original settings are not terrible drivel.

>>26321333
I've made my thoughts on his fearmongering very clear in the past, both in these generals and in the Shadow Quest threads themselves, and it still rustles my jimmies. Though I would like to note that he has been much better about it in the last few threads.

Though that may just be because it's all narrative, lately. Not that I am complaining, it's much better than paranoia fuelled screaming matches.

Also, FEELBERG soon fellow anon.

>>26321337
>Can that get riled up again?
Is the shitstorm still going on in those threads?

>>26321355
Waifu is a meaningless buzzword for the most part.

You do not decide what people should enjoy.

Hey just wanted to point out a Quest I got started: Destined Children Quest. Where you and several others get pulled into an alternate dimension that is beginning to fall apart at the seams. >>26315384

>>26321488
The QM still hasn't decided, or at least announced, if he's continuing because of all the hate he got, undeservedly as he sees it

Hasn't been another quest since last night, so the discussion has invaded here

>>26321337
Which meta game quest?

Because Code Arthur fucked up eight ways from sunday in the last CGMGQ, and then the namefags and tripfags started circling overhead while he was patronising his playerbase and bludgeoning his quest to death with hamfisted plot twists.

>>26320886
>House Karban quest where art thou?
All signs point to "cancelled". He's following Harrock and Iron and Hate, but no longer has the time to do Karban and his tale justice.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but we did have the (extraordinarily censored) correspondence, and I talked to the Anon who's been in touch with him.

>>26321435I tried to like their things.
I tried to get into them with an open mind.
In the end, I simply couldn't. tgchan's magical realm is just too magical for me.

>>26321435
there's nothing wrong with 'fan fiction' or a 'ripoff' (your words) if it's done well and entertaining. Quests aren't high literature, they don't need to be 'original' or even well written all they need to do is entertain.

The idea that they should be something else just to suit you is rather presumptuous, I bet you'd jump all over a '40k' quest and that's honestly one of the least original things ever.

It's hilarious that the trolls have taken to just taking random posts and going 'Hey everybody, [QM I don't like] said this!'

Maybe not even random posts. Maybe they're posting it and replying to it

>>26321562
yes, that one

Although I don't know what you mean by patronizing his playerbase

And the only plot twist was an offered do over, which everyone panicked and took

>>26321585
Don't you dare talk shit about Boone Quest.

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>>26321620
I said nothing about boone quest being bad or anything else. I merely pointed out that it may not exactly be /original/. and. thats. okay.

This thread is in some serious need of Mr.Rogers

>>26321609
Sitting back and laughing at how smart he was and how dumb his playerbase was because LOL YOU GEASSED YOURSELF DUMMIES, HOW DID YOU NOT WORK THAT OUT, HAHAHA NO PLOT ARMOUR FOR YOU.

It was just all around a pretty sad state of affairs.

>>26321332
But "telling" through the eyes and voice of another character(the protagonist) is just another form of showing. It just shows you something different than what proper dialogue would have.

It's time to graduate elementary school, anon.

>>26321548
>undeservedly as he sees it
What a faggot.

>>26321467
And the /tg/ quest scene is /a/ as fuck.

>>26321686
>this guy said something about that QM, he must be a faggot
Nice samefag.

>>26320213
Yup, that is what I was saying.

>>26321699
If I had to choose, I'd rather drown in /a/ than furry.

>>26321673
Oh come on, that was LITERALLY his third post

The playerbase consistently manages to fuck up reading. He had to relink them to his posts to show that they chose the redo instead of having it forced

>>26321699
Personally, that still makes me prefer /tg/.
Personal taste, I guess and all that.

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>>26321672
See, the 40k universe is far vaster and can fit a lot more, and Boone Quest has original characters. Compare to Bleach Quest, in which the players are playing Ichigo, following the main plot line of Bleach fighting Aizen, except faster.

One is clearly more original than the other here.

>>26321699
Yup. Guess why I'm still here?

>>26320859
>Sometimes they try to just be set in the same universe
And when they don't even try that they rape the setting and butcher the characters to hell and back.

Strike Witches and Girls und Panzer are clear examples.

>>26321585
I'm not that anon, but there are a lot of things wrong with ripoff quests. They're lazy, most of them tend to use the same characters or plots from the actual thing they're ripping off.
I mean, if you want something exactly like something in an established setting, then fucking READ THE BOOK/COMIC/MANGO/ WATCH THE SHOW/MOVIE/ANIMU. They always tend to be the same exact thing!

>>26321770
Being more original than Bleach Quest isn't that original. Nor is either of them bad because they aren't original.

>>26321585
Fuck you, Commissar Quest is leagues ahead of most quests.

And its funny you should single out 40K when the setting is literally built from the ground up for roleplaying in and expansive enough for you to destroy entire solar systems without upsetting the lore.

Next time, try choosing a setting that doesnt just have one, but 5 different roleplaying games made for it, not even taking into account all the different wargame subvariants it has like Necromunda, Space Hulk, Gorkamorka, etc.

>>26321795
Eh, guess we cannot see eye to eye on this matter. Guess that's that, then.

>>26321502

No, I don't, although I'd sure like to. For Christ's sake, we have an actual Bleach Quest that is based exactly on the anime.

What the fuck is it doing on /tg/?

>>26321795
>they always tend to be the same exact thing
The entire point of those is to see how it would've gone if the MC did something different.

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>>26321673
>NO PLOT ARMOUR FOR YOU.

He took plot armor because it doesn't mean anything anymore.

He likes yanking on chains

>>26321585
>waaaah 40k
For fuck's sake, anons. Lose the hateboner. Believe it or not, there are some of us that enjoy both quests AND 40k. And there are probably many anons that hate both quests AND 40k.

You're just giving people more reason to dislike questfags.

>>26321743
>>26321751
Meh, its still like choosing whether to drown in shit or to drown in bloody shit.

>>26321745
His goal as a QM is to make things clear enough that the playerbase can make a well informed decision. This did not happen because the playerbase had no fucking idea what was going on.

Who's fault is this?

>>26321813
In the end, it's the journey that counts. I agree.

>>26321720
Take off the tinfoil.

>>26321844
It's a quest.

>>26321795
>They're lazy, most of them tend to use the same characters or plots from the actual thing they're ripping off.
But are they *entertaining* because that's the only thing they need to do, is entertain.

>>26321827
I wasn't calling out any quest in particular, but 40k in and of itself is a mass of tropes and stereotypes - it's not exactly original... It doesn't need to be either.

>>26321859
You're missing the point. Calling out 40k on being unoriginal doesn't mean I hate it.

>>26321860
I don't feel that way, but I respect your opinion.

>>26321585
>>26321859
Why are questfags so antagonistic to 40K, anyways?

>>26321860
I think the bloody shit is more likely to give you AIDS.

>>26321672
That image is amazing. Gleefully stolen, with my thanks.

>>26321854
THEN WHY WAS HE SURPRISED WHEN HIS AUDIENCE THREW A FIT

Generally, if you make your audience jump through pointless hoops straight into a bucket of shit, they are going to complain, and they are going to be very loud about it.

>>26321888
/a/ does quests now.

>>26321860
Guess it can't be helped…

>>26321918
It does? Do they have a dice system?

>>26321903
Because 40k is one of the loudest factions of unfunny retards on the board. There was literally someone who tried to revive the 'omg stairs!!! SQUAD BROKEN' meme earlier.

>>26321903
Because the militant idiots among us see it as another 'camp' to be compared to our own and used as a scapegoat.

It's a retarded mob mentality thing.

>>26321860
Drowning is drowning, whether it be in shit or water.

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>>26321471
Yeah, he's calmed down lately and I think the point finally sunk in on what he was doing to the playerbase with those comments and with the Archonium he's effectively kind of fixed the problem he caused with it.

>>26321903
>>26321943
>>26321949
>>26316936

So I tried to peddle an idea on Anonkun to try to work with someone, but apparently they hate that. Anyone here want to work together with someone? I want to make a quest that crosses Dark Souls with Monster Girls.

>>26321937
No, but most /a/ quests really only use them as a formality.

>>26321949
Pretty much this. For fuck's sake, I don't wanna fight any of you.

>>26321896
But going to the "HERPDERP FUCKIN 40kFAGS" is fucking stupid.

>>26321903
>Why are some questfags so antagonistic to 40k, anyways?
FTFY. And the answer is that 40k is (arguably?) the dominant presence on /tg/. The questfags in question probably assume that their detractors are worried about maintaining their grip on the board, when that most likely couldn't be further from the truth.

>>26321904
You're still dead from drowning in shit at the end of the day.

>>26321863
He didn't move the quest forward until he explained exactly what happened.

Heck, the playerbase fucks up reading more often than he fucks up writing. He had to explain about ten times that the quest ended with the Gawain standing next to them

>>26321917
because that portion of the shitstorm was very quiet and under control.

People got riled up because the votes on one post were a fucking mess and he pulled out what he wanted. Then the looked back and ignored the fact that they accepted the redo and tried to blame him for forcing the redo. Then all the people came out of the wood works complaining how they were happy with the ending of the thread before and had no answer for why they didn't vote to reject the redo.

Shitstorms are more fun with someone on the other side, stirring it back

>>26321896
>but 40k in and of itself is a mass of tropes and stereotypes
This has literally nothing to do with any part of the discussion.

>>26321987
What if I learn to swim through shit?

>>26321967

>ANOTHER FUCKING MONSTER GIRL QUEST

Please, anon. Don't do this.

>>26321962
By law of popularity, the more popular something is the more likely it is to attract shitty people.

>>26321967

>ANOTHER FUCKING MONSTER GIRL QUEST

Please, anon. Do this.

>>26321997
You are being very quick to blame the playerbase for it's failure to read, rather than the QM for his failure to write.

>>26322004
>x isn't original
>neither is y but I imagine if it were posted you'd gobble it up with an entirely different opinion

>>26322008
But I love them because they're fun.

>>26322030
I'm more of a background work kind of guy. I can do all the tedious work that comes with running a quest for someone who feels confident at writing.

>>26322007
Then you become the shit.

Then anon was /a/utist.

>>26321967
Tell me more. If you wanna collab on.Anonkun don't just ask anyone and preferably ask via PM rather than public chat. People that are fairly okay include /a/nonymous magica, Face.and Storyteller.

>>26321949
I hate the whole 'Us or Them!' thing that has arisen on /tg/ recently. Can't we all just stick to what we personally enjoy and leave everything else alone?

>>26321967
Define "work together."

>>26322078
NO!! We /v/ now.

>>26322033
If everyone is on the same side, the argument dies down. Devil's Advocate and what not.

Exactly where did the QM fail to write? There was the typo near the end, but that doesn't matter much.

Wanting to redo the battle and offering that to the playerbase should be acceptable QM behavior

>>26322078
but anon. heresy grows from idleness!

>>26322049

But there are already too many monster girl quests on /tg/. Why not just masturbate to someone's elses fapfic instead bothering to write your own?

>>26322047
But thats not what he said at all. We are comparing the scope of settings and how much the quest in question fucks with the lore/canon of the series/setting at hand.

Boone Quest and Commissar Quest, for example, has you roleplaying as wholly original characters doing their own thing in wholly original corners of the 40K setting, a setting literally built with roleplay in mind.

Bleach Quest, on the other hand, has you roleplaying as the MC of a rather restrictive anime setting, one designed to tell a single story at that.

>>26322104
>>26322078
Don't worry anons, together, we can survive this summer.

>>26322078
>recently
"Edition wars" ring any bells?

Us VS them is incredibly prominent on the internet, and /tg/ has never been an exception.

>>26322068
Well, basically, the idea is that it's a Souls style universe that features monstergirls. I have a pastebin with the kind of introduction you'd get from any Souls series game already set up if that would be easier for you to read.

>>26322087
I build fluff, write crunch, keep track of niggling little details, and basically do all the unfun tedium, because that's the stuff that's fun to me. The writer would be responsible mainly for, well, the part that's usually regarded as fun: namely the writing and interacting with the players.

>>26321903
A lot of the arguments used against quests also apply to 40k, mostly the prevalence on the board and the front page (When it was relevant) and their butting into unrelated threads. So some people started comparing them as a counter to those arguments, which was then magnified to an "Us vs. Them" mentality

We interrupt this QTG to bring you a special announcement from Lord Licorice.

>I realize there are a number of people that really despise quest threads, and after cleaning literally hundreds of non-starters out of the archives, I can certainly see where you're coming from. However, by mis-archiving quests with shitty labels, you're only serving to accomplish two things: one, you're taking all of thirty seconds out of my day to fix the tags, and two, you're training quest creators to immediately archive their threads to avoid mis-labeling, which just exacerbates the issue. Post-It Quest is a prime example, it had all of twenty replies, but was archived as soon as the author could refresh 4chan after posting it. The only way you're going to stop quest threads on /tg/ is to stem the tide at the source. Shitting up the archive isn't helping anyone's cause. For the record, I am not, have never been, and, saints preserve me, will never be a janitor or moderator on 4chan. I have no power, authority or influence to stop quest threads from existing on /tg/; I'm just an archivist. By definition, by the time it reaches me, it's already too late. You're going to need to change the community's mind, and that can't be done with goofy labeling.

>>26322115
>restrictive anime setting
It isn't that restrictive. I mean the entire point of the thing was to see how much we could fuck over canon without metagaming.

>>26322078
Tabletop RPGs have trained us to party up and slay people of different alignments than our own.

Joking aside, yes, we can and should. The thing is, you (and us and them) have to be willing to be the first to disengage. Try to calm down hotheads on both sides whenever problems flare up, don't start things, don't be a dick, and remember to be courteous and inviting, even when you want to smash the face of the person you're talking with.

>>26322141
I like this guy

>>26322139
>A lot of the arguments used against quests also apply to 40k
I have never seen one that legitimately fits as well as questfags claim. Instead, it feels like questfags just try to deflect arguments into bitching about 40K because they hate 40K.

>>26322114
Because I don't want to make a fapfic? I like monster girls because they are cute and fun to me. I also like Demon and Dark Souls. I want to mix them because it is a /tg/ tradition to mix things you like.

>>26322141
I dont think the misarchive trolls honestly cared about LLs woes or even stopping quests. His speech is kinda pointless, albeit admirable.

>>26322148
The fact that these generals attract trolls like flies to shit doesn't help the conflicts either.

>>26322196
No, it isn't. However, it is a tradition to turn anything involving monstergirls into a fapfic. If you believe otherwise, you are guaranteed to be disappointed.

>>26322235
>No, it isn't.
Yes, it is. Almost every piece of original content on /tg/ is just slapping two or more things relevant to their creator's interest together.

>>26322188
There's almost always as many or more 40k threads as quest threads. For that matter, there's probably more MtG threads than quest threads on average.

>>26322251
But 40K also has a lot more board relevance than quests by the sheer number of wargames and rpgs in the setting.

>>26322235
Before /tg/ dissolved into a huge pile of tribalistic faggotry, it was also tradition to make cute, mascot versions of whatever thing you liked.

>>26322251
And generally the 40k threads tend to be of much worse quality.

>>26321355
based on what you call a "waifu quest", I feel I can ignore your opinions from here on our.

>>26322250
If it involves monstergirls, it's all but certain to turn into fap fodder. This guy doesn't want that, so the best solution is to keep the monstergirls out of it.

>>26322278
It was always like that. It just used to be more subtle, that's all.

>>26322280
I disagree. The shittier 40K threads are about on par with your average quest.

>>26322284
Lamia Quest is pretty terrible, dude, I gotta agree with the other anon.

>>26322280
>>26322313
Can't we all just agree to ignore eachother?

>>26322273
That's Entirely >Opinions

>>26322303
>subtle
lol, what? Those are some rose-tinted glasses bro.

>>26322313
>>26316936

HAY GUYZ, SLOWPOKE HERE, SO FAHNNY MEE MEE FROM LONG AGO, STILL FAHNNY RIGHT?

Quests are totally worse.

40kfags, please ignore the autismal cunts who keep trying to start shit with you. They don't represent the majority of us questfags.

>>26322353
Man it's true what they say about QTGs on weekdays. I mean this thread has been trollbait since the OP.

>>26322325
Not liking it is one thing, but if Lamia Child Quest is a 'waifu' quest then so is every single one with any kind of love interest, making the term stupid since you could just say 'quests with romance suck balls' instead and use waifu quest for quests that actually focus on those elements.

>>26322137
Here's that pastebin http://pastebin.com/Mfa7GBPn

>>26322344
We get it, you dont like a single thread made by a shitposter.

Meanwhile, literally the highest rated quest currently running is anime fanfiction harem shit.

>>26322383
LQ is pretty waifutastic, brosefeline.

It looks like there's some cunt making really, really shitty 40k threads right now. I'll give 40k a pass on these because there are shitty quests that are made by trolls entirely for the purpose of making quests in general look shitty.

>>26322392
Nah, it's really not bromecles

>>26322303
The monstergirls are just in it for fun and because I like them. The majority of monsters are still, well, monsters. It also kind of ties into part of the lore I wrote.

>>26322388
But the majority of 40k threads are like that.
Bleach quest is actually entertaining however, otherwise people wouldn't follow it. But hey lets throw buzzwords at it until they stick, because the correct combination of words will totally negate all the fun people are having with it.

>>26322333
I'm sorry, I didn't realize every single quest on this board had its own fleshed out rpg book. Maybe you can direct me to them.

>>26322388
>harem shit
That's a total exaggeration. Also please stop responding to the trolls trying to start shit.

>>26322141
Ah, I read that. Glad to see LL is still awesome.

>>26322388
ENTERTAINING anime fanfiction, and if you think it's actually bad then I invite you to go to FFN and discover what bad fanfiction really looks like.

>>26322422
>having books means you're original

>>26322409
>But the majority of 40k threads are like that.
Oh gee, lookit dem >opinions.

Besides, its a well known fact that /a/, /co/ and /v/ typically use those Imperium vs. X threads to talk about offtopic shit.

>>26322407
No offense anon, but this is sounding more and more terrible with every post you make. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, of course.

>>26322407
But the thing is, they will be turned into fapbait whether you like it or not. So ask yourself if you really want that to happen.

>>26322388
Oh, okay.

>>26322406
Whatever you say, brolev.

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>>26322459
I'm glad we can agree to disagree, brobachov

>>26322435
>original
Oh look, its that word I never used in my argument. I said board relevance, shit-for-eyes.

>>26322446
I refuse to be daunted.

>>26322439
I posted the background lore here >>26322384
It doesn't really talk about monster girls, save to say that Demihumans were created.

>>26322435
Okay I'm not even defending 40k but you're clearly a troll, originality isn't even what they're talking about.

>>26322388
don't take the ratings too seriously. Quests get downvote bombed all the time, and my favorite quest recently got an upvote bot voting for it.

It really ruins the point of the votes.

>>26322472
Kinda hypocritical to post that when bitching about someone elses fun.

Just a heads up- /a/ says that they are now accepting animu-related quests again. So if you are running an anime-themed quest, consider moving it over there, as you are much less likely to run into shitposters.

>>26322483
>Having books on the /ideas/ board means you're more relevant than other things that people have /ideas/ about

>>26322434
>>26322409
Fun is bad and you should FEEL bad for having it.

>>26322422
>You need a book to have an RPG!
>Homebrews aren't allowed!

>>26322487
Well you should be. /d/'s going to latch onto it like a fucked up parasite and will turn what you though was a good idea into something truly horrible. Get out while you still have a chance.

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>>26322508
>/ideas/
Just because thats what /tg/ is in practice doesnt mean thats what its supposed to be. So yes, having more board relevant material makes you more board relevant.
>>26322525
Show me those quest homebrews you so totally have. The only one I can think of is that Lost Future thing and I dont think it ever made it out of Alpha. Right now, CATastrophe is more board relevant than most quests.

>>26322550
Nah.

>>26322422
>>26322525
to have a similar argument as this poster but more polite:

I've had way more fun and discussion on /tg/ talking about settings and worldbuilding than specific gamesystems. I argue the wealth of different settings in quests is the draw and the thing that makes them board relevant.

Likewise, nobody would be talking about 40K if it was a pure game devoid of setting. It's the setting that generates the discussion.

>>26322508
>/ideas/ board
I'm not following this argument so I don't know what side you're on or what the sides are, but holy fuck no. /tg/ is not the "/ideas/" board.

Fuck. That is the dumbest thing I've read all night.

>HEY GUYS I GOT AN /IDEA/ FOR A PORN! LETS ALL POST PORN!
>WOW ANON WHAT A GREAT /IDEA/!

>>26322565
MercWorld is making its own FATE module.

>>26322582
>implying MercWorld is a quest

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>>26322504
>everyone on this thread. and this board, at that matter.

>>26322505
Huh? /a/ has a lot more posters period than /tg/. Unless the average /a/non is a saint, there's going to be more shitposters there by sheer dint of numbers, and that's before you realize that the average denizen of /tg/ has a better not-shitposter-to-shitposter ratio than most boards.

Plus, I doubt that all of /a/ is happy to have quests again, so the anti-quest brigade of /a/ will be forming up as more move over there.

guys can I ask that we all tone down the
>GREENTEXT CAPITALIZATION
please? It seems to really make things escalate quickly.

>>26322582
MercWorld also despises any and all quest affiliation and claims to have driven questfags out.
>>26322573
see 26320248

>>26322573
>i dont understand what actual offtopic is so I'll just strawman instead of reading board rules.

>>26322628
Fucked that up.
>>26320248

>>26322628
wait, does this mean that civ games aren't quests either?

Because they also generally deny quest affiliation.

>>26322499
Oooh, which quest? I've been looking to get one of those for my quest.

>>26322384
Where are the monster girls?

>>26322670
why would you want an upvotebot on your quest

It ruins all the previous positive votes you had gotten.

>>26322663
No, they're quests by definition, the OPs are just smart enough to realize that being branded with the quest label will drag them into shit.

>>26322694
Yeah, but getting that gold highlight is oh so arousing.

>>26322550
As long as said anon avoids sticking penises on everything they wont really bother.

Ha, Meta Game Quest : Code Geass is over

>>26322634
Nice word-salad you've got there. No idea how it relates to my post.

>>26322628
>>26322637
Lovely.

>>26322663
MercWorld is a setting that /tg/ has been building. There was talk of running a quest IN MercWorld, but there's been talk of running a quest in every setting.

>>26322663
Man, I dont fuckin know. What I do know is that MercWorld is gonna have a FATE module before it has a quest unless the whole thing crumbles under the weight of its own autism. Even then, the quest will likely be sagebombed by buttflustered anons from the MercWorld threads who hate quests.

>>26322726
>There was talk of running a quest IN MercWorld
Actually, MercWorld was an anons idea to utilize /tg/s love of worldbuilding to build him a setting for a psuedo-FF8 quest he wanted to run. It kinda backfired on him in the most delicious of ways.
>>26322720
I'm gonna need a link/citation for that.

>>26322678
They're Demihumans, monsters given a human mind and body. Naturally, only about half of em are female, so they're not all monster girls.

>>26322726
so... why are we talking about mercworld here if it's not a quest?

>>26322727
I believe in mechanicsfag being able to get that module out.

>>26322637
I'm a part of MercWorld, though I should probably write some more stuff but I've been busy today and yesterday, but I am a part of it.

If someone wants to run a MercWorld quest they should feel free to. It's a setting, it's meant to be used, to provide a place for GMs/QMs and Players to set their adventures and have fun with. I like the setting we've made so far, though I'm obviously baised as I see my own work in it. If someone wants to run it on IRC with the Fate Module they should go right ahead, someone wants to run it tabletop with their friends, that's not my problem. Hell, I'd follow a MercWorld quest if it happened and it was well written.

>>26322756
It's a setting, its origins come from a QTG where someone brought up the ideas that led to it, and it's a perfectly acceptable setting for a quest.

>>26322756
Because at this point "quest" means whatever the fuck you want it to mean.

>>26322694
But seriously, which quest has gotten an upvote bot. I want to know.

>>26322752
the archive vote is sitting at -2, well beyond the usual downvotes, and Arthur is quite anal sensitive about the archive votes if you hadn't noticed.

He's not going to continue

He's probably lurking this thread right now by the way

>>26322780
Bleach Quest

>>26322756
Because some retarded anon thought it was a great example of a quest with a homebrew system. Even though it has no quest, and afaik it's just a setting and not a system at all.

Welcome to /tg/, where the facts are made up and the posts don't matter.

>>26322801
mechanicsfag made character generation rules, mapped out special abilities, showed us how to make weapons and vehicles, and has generally been a guy who got shit done. It's a system, though very alpha at the moment.

>>26322780
well, I have no proof, but I think Lamia quest did.
Before, it was all 12-18ish votes, with the occasional one breeching 20.
Then a couple days ago, all the ones under 20 suddenly jumped up to exactly 20.
I would have been happy about it, since I quite enjoy the quest, but I am almost certain they are not actual people votes, which ruins it.

Of course, I could just be paranoid. People have called me that repeatedly on these generals.

>>26322789
>if you hadn't noticed.
I hadn't because I don't read his quest. Seeing it fall apart is oddly amusing, though. Sorta like when Ghost Quest almost shitstormed to death.

>>26322792
That's kind of surprising. I mean it's popular enough to get up to like 10 on it's own.

>>26322830
Most questfags do that for their favorite quest. Despicable, if you ask me.

>>26322828
My mistake, though it doesn't make that poster any less retarded for using it as an example of a quest.

>>26322830
Hah, yeah- I was noticing how strange it was that it kept getting pushed up to 20.

>>26322856
Nope. Because if most did, the votes would all be sitting at LEAST around 100 upvotes.
>5 anons all add 20 votes with bots...
It's one or maaaaaaybe two people who follow a lot of quests.

>>26322835
What happened to Ghost Quest?

>>26322856
>most questfags
What? If -most- people were doing upvotebots, there would be many, MANY more upvotes.
I'm just upset that we gathered one of the few guys running an upvote bot. I know some people were downspamming the quest, but that's no reason to further make pointless the votes with an upvoter.
Whatever happened to reading a thing, then giving it a vote based on how you felt?

>>26322068
>/a/nonymous magica
>Face
>Storyteller
I'm pretty sure those guys are assholes.

>>26322889
And that's just for tiny quests with only a few followers. The "big" quests would easily break 500 votes if everyone who bothered to vote in the archive used a bot.

>>26322889
You have the reading comprehension of an inebriated newt.

All questfags ensure their favorite quest rests firmly at ~20.

>>26322856
Auto-voting?
Or voting in general?

>>26322726
>>26322726
I'd still like to see that happen.

>>26318978
>>26318993
>>26319031
>>26319146
Kinda funny how this turned out now, isn't it?

>>26322925
That's just that one quest. Most of the ones that are votespammed end up closer to (But not exactly) 30.

>>26322925
so... you mean they vote positively on a thing they read and like?

Your moral objection is much less resonant to me now.

I am so sad.

My friend, the other man that downvoted all quests with me has gone missing. It used to be such a cheering thing, to see a fresh quest, to downvote it, and note with joy that it hit -2.

He was probably misarchiving, and got banned. It's a shame. I feel lonely now.

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>>26322928
>Kinda funny how this turned out now, isn't it?

>>26322959
To give it a buffer against downvoters.
>>26322966
Spamvoting, dear boy.

>>26322968
and you will die lonely you miserable cunt

>>26322898
magica is pretty okay. Then again, I've known him a for a bit so w/e.

>>26322969
That's sad in how funny it is.
Or funny in how sad it is.
I can't quite make up my mind.
>>26322968
You remind me of Accelspammer.

>>26322978
What exactly is a spamvoter?

Do you mean proxy upvoters? Because we already went over how it is not only unlikely but unfeasible for most questfags to be using them.

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>>26322968
I actually feel bad for this guy. He and his friend probably got more enjoyment out of every single quest than the rest of us.

Godspeed, Downvote-kun.

>>26322968
I wish you would stop. I would like to give accurate downvotes on episodes of a quest I didn't particularly like, but then I think of you and upvote, in some vague attempt to cancel you out.

I have no idea how many other people do the same, but I know I would have downvoted a lot more personally if you didn't exist.

>>26323016
CLEARLY nothing can be enjoyed by more than 12 people at a time, Anon. Clearly.

>>26323016
It seems to me that there's only one "full time" upvote spammer and one "full time" downvote spammer. I saw a quest thread that was at +3... After 70 something votes.
It was a one-shot quest posted in the off hours with no particularly special features that would have earned it more legitimate votes in either direction.

>>26323050
Honestly, I upvoted a couple threads after checking the total number of votes simply to balance out their faggotry.

>>26323061
Looking into a typical quest gives that impression. Especially when a quest ends up at +20-30 after like 173 votes.

>>26323050
I can only give one downvote.

It's a lot like spitting in a tornado. It doesn't mean much, but it makes me feel better. And it made me feel very happy when someone else was there spitting with me.

>>26323090
exactly. If they would just stop the faggotry, I wouldn't have to upvote to even them out.

Stop drawing the neutrals into your conflict, damnit! I just want balance and accuracy in my censuses and votes.

>>26323090
Thirded.

>>26323096
I would much prefer if you gave downvotes on things you read and not just EVERYTHING. Since that kind of invalidates the point of a downvote.

>>26323096
But anon, think of the people who are upvoting. They're with you just as much as the other downvoter was.

>>26323090
>>26323103
>>26323111
Consequently, I downvote for the exact same reason.

>>26323112
Why would he read quests he didn't like? Thats just dumb.

>>26323140
I'm all the time downvoting episodes of quests I read that were worse than the average for that quest.

Or at least, I used to, before this upvote/downvote drama.

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>>26323067
>+3... After 70 something votes.
>>26323092
>+20-30 after like 173 votes.
>>26323125
>>26323111
>>26323103
>>26323096
>>26323090

The ride... never ends...


>>26322141

Okay, my respect for him just improved tremendously.

>>26323002
>magica is pretty okay. Then again, I've known him a for a bit so w/e.
Could you find out if he'd be interested? Actually hold up on that while I proofread my premise/intro thing first.

>>26322925
Shadow Quest is a popular quest. It gets around 20 votes a thread with a few really good ones breaching 30 and two that reached 50. SM's twitter also has 49 followers, which means that there is at least 49 people who play his quest but there's probably more(I don't follow his twitter for example, just keep the page open in a tab).

If anything, it gets less votes from it's followers then it should. I don't really believe in this upvote bot conspiracy for all the popular quests.