>>26308859
you know it'd end in hot powerarmored sex

>>26308859
Do I look like a magic eight-ball to you?

>>26308859

Meta Knight.

>>26308884
Marines have no balls

>>26308859
Named character vs. generic wank-fodder mook.

Named character always wins..

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>>26308900
This. Meta Knight is op as fuck.

>>26308928
Except for space wolves, because they're allowed to do everything that people compromise on without having any downsides, because vikings.

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>>26308936
>>26308900
Sorry, what? Couldn't hear you from up here

>>26308937
They never actually fuck the bitches, though. They just haul them around and pretend to. Fenrisans put up with it and go along with the fantasy because you aren't reasonably going to piss off a delusional war giant of death and yiffing.

>>26308953
Ike never killed a god just so he could ask a bigger god for a fight with a death god that had been sealed away in the center of the universe so that he could kill that too.

>>26308953

That's because you're Star KO'ed, silly.

>>26308937
>because they're allowed to do everything that people compromise on without having any downsides, because Jervis loves his personal army of canon-stue viking "good guys".
seriously, he has actually said in a WD commentary article that one of the reasons he loves Space Wolves so much, and has an army of them, is because he believes them to be the super "true-hero marines" of 40k

>>26308983
Which is funny, because they have done some of the worst stuff against humanity across all ages.

space wolves are the number 1 mary sues of 40k

>>26308859
Samus shoots a small black hole, followed by a miniature Sun and a rip in reality.
Space Marine ends up in the Warp while being boiled and ripped apart, but somehow survives and comes back two minutes later because Warp time.
Then Samus uses the screw attack and a power bomb.

...Seriously, the only reason for a Space Marine to win would be plot armor.
Not to mention that Samus can just steal their equipment if it's in any way superior. Imagine the nice upgrade she'd get from the composite SM.

>>26308859
>Composite Samus Aran

Gotta go with Samus. More flexibility.

Ice Beam, Wave Beam (emp), Annihilator Beam, Phazon Suit, Phazon in general, enough visors to pierce any camouflage, Power Bombs, the always invincible Screw Attack, morph ball abilities for maneuverability and a quick escape, kick ass space ship with auto pilot, sonic attacks...the list just goes on and on.

I see the battle as Samus sneaking up on the marine and taking out half his armor before he can even get a bead on her...and at that point, it's already over.

space marine.

because fuck weeaboo nintendan characters >:(

>>26309082
I wouldn't say she's more agile. The Space Marine is on par with her in terms of abilities.
Her advantage is her equipment. It's infinitely superior to any SM stuff.

>>26309082
If you assume that one party can get a drop on the other they can win even if they're otherwise inferior.

>>26308859
samus dies as soon as she tries to turn into a morph ball because she's now in a universe that's not completely retarded

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>>26309192
>40k
>not completely retarded

>>26309192
Two things.
1: The morph ball, in all of its appearances, has never been anything more than Samus doing a forward roll or being a contortionist.
2: What >>26309216 said.

>>26309125
>Samus
>weeaboo
She was made by a Japanese company, thst doesn't make her weeaboo.

>>26309216
>40k Samus
>Morph Ball now grants her Psyker powers because she turns into energy (see the Prime games)

>>26309248
Samus is basically a very American character.

>>26309192
>he doesn't realize Samus is a contortionist, and the results of the (not-so-bad) space pirates reverse engineering her morph ball resulted in a bunch of dead space pirates broken into little spheres.

>>26309254
Exactly. >>26309192, please leave this thread.

>>26309071
>Samus shoots a small black hole, followed by a miniature Sun and a rip in reality.
What? Forgive me, but my knowledge of the series ends at Metroid: Prime. Did Nintendo really give Samus that kind of silly bullshit?

>>26309082
The death ball from Metroid Prime multiplayer....

>>26309192
By that logic, the space marine dies from his giant shoulderpads crushing all of his internal organs before Samus even has to morphball.

>>26309192
>Chozo Superscience is retarded
>but the Imperium isn't
gr8 b8 m8

>Implying Samus isn't one of the Missing Primarchs...

.../tg/ I am ashamed of you...

>>26308859
>plasma beam
>wave beam

Marine is fucked.

>>26309224
>>26309272
>contorionist
Wait, how does that work? Why can't she drop bombs in the normal mode, where did all the details on the suit ( her helmet, the cannon, the 'scales' on the abdomen beneath the chest, those GIGANTIC pauldrons) disappear to, how can a human being roll themselves around after pressing everything that could give them forward motion into a tight ball?

>>26309396
I remember in one of the games, we see it as she does a somersault in the air and the two halves of the Morph Ball appear on either side of her.

>>26309396
Spartal compression technology... plus I always assumed her Pauldrons were the outer shell of the Morph Ball...

>>26309396
Why the fuck is no one who complains about her morph ball actually playing the games?
The suit works like a henshin ability. She can summong it at will. So it can easily transform into the morph ball shape.
Samus herself seems to transform into energy.

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>>26309426
Just out of the blue? Or is this another case of Chozo 'science'?

>>26309363
>raised on a planet in the ways of combat by aliens that the Emperor could have got on with/would not have been around when the Emperor rolled up.
>One-woman exterminatus.
>Next to no fear, and that could be fixed with augmentation.
Yanno, this might just work.
Hell, given all the tricks and tools of Chzo tech, she might have been mistaken for a female Vulcan.
Can you imagine it, going around the galaxy seeking out parts of the lost armour? It would be just like finding Vulcan's lost toys, but only the chapter master could do it because they wear the sacred, hereditary armour.

>>26309396
The suit's made by a race of aliens who came up against the greatest predator in existence, engineered a lifeform specifically to destroy it and then got bored so they gave up having physical forms and moved to a higher plane of existence

>>26309446
Chozo science allows you to become a ghost, move between dimensions and absorb the life force of your fallen foes.

>>26309473
Wait, are you saying the the X is a product of Chozo tech?
I thought only the Metroids were created by the Chozo.

>>26309456
INDEED, especially if we replace "Parasite X" with "Tzeentch"...
And it all suddenly makes sense now, doesn't it?

I am not familiar with 40k lore. But how are marines vs radiation? Because Samus with all her weaponry can just pump him full of phazon

>>26309508
It is not registered as a chapter.
After all, can you call one woman a chapter?

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>>26309478
Ah, so it's like GW's excuse for technobabble.

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>>26309489
I think he's saying it's the other way around. The Chozo came across X, and developed the Metroid species to deal with them, since the fusion suit is half Metroid and it can eat the X like it's nothing.

>>26309489
Parasite X WAS said predator, able to take over and assimilate any lifeform it came into contact with, they built the Metroids to dispose of it permanently by EATING it.

>>26309519
>But how are marines vs radiation?
40k gets by the whole 'radiation thing' by never mentioning anything about it.

Though iirc, Vespid have a somewhat 'radiation gun' (Neutron Blaster), that kills marines pretty good.

>>26309544
>EATING
Not directly.
They just eat its soul.

>>26309523
My god...
Composite Samus would win against a composite Space Marine.
Because composite Samus IS a composite Space Marine.

>>26309541
Yes, now if we replace "Parasite X" with "Tzeentch" and "Life Force" with "Warp Energy"...

>>26309567
Composite Space Marine does not use a hybrid of Eldar and Necron tech with Tau aesthetics and some Tyranid abilities.

I wonder how the Galactic Federation would fare against the Imperium.
They do have energy shielding on everything and lots of reverse-engineered Chozo stuff.

>>26309597
Eh, true.
Maybe that's why it's a stricken chapter though, because she uses that tech.

>>26309489
It's the other way around. The Chozo developed the Metroids in order to combat the naturally occurring X on their native world.

>>26309597
Maybe not those boring Vanilla "Canon" Chapters...

>>26309645
>>26309656
Well let's see you stat a one-model army, then!

>>26309647
And then the end of Fusion implied that the X might be able to develop a conscience or at least the ability for rational thought.
Which might mean that they aren't that dangerous after all.

You also forgot the irony of Samus exterminating all Metroids. Bonus points for the fact that "Metroid" is basically her role. And then was was literally partially Metroid after becoming infected by the X because she wiped out the Metroids that her adoptive parents created in the first place to combat the X.

>>26309571
You'd get... God Empress of Mankind?

>>26309645
EXACTLY!
Warhammer 40k!Samus was raised by freaky Birdpeople Xenos with an obsession with long term planning and puzzles.
If old Empy made the connection to a certain Chaos God and decided to pull what he did with Angron on much larger scale...

>>26309704
So THAT'S why she's so OP!

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Satsujinki, with all the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception bullshit attached, VS A Composite Space Marine.

Who would win?

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They say that 12 Guardsman are a match for your average Space Marine.
I'd say that Samus, with minimal equipment, could take more than double that amount.
With MAXIMUM equipment, I'd say she'd be in line to take down somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 or so Guardsman.

There is NO comparison between Miss Aran and any single unit in 40K

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>>26309714
I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME!

>>26309714
Now imagine Samus on a crusade against the Emperor because he wiped out her OTHER set of parents.
That's something I'd love to map out. She'd likely start by raiding a Blood Raven armory for useful upgrades.
Then she'd raid a few Necron tombs and try negotiating for Eldar tech... Until the Eldar turn out to be assholes and get fucked sideways.
She could even get upgrades from the Tyranid forces.
And once she'd sufficiently prepared, she'd step through the warp directly onto Terra.

>>26309519
The space marine has one organ implanted in them that helps them deal with some levels of radiation. I doubt the ability could withstand weaponized radiation though. Samus is still the winner.

>>26309729
>Samus duel wieldin'.
Welp. Everyone go home, we've found enuff dakka.

>>26309704
...Well no, sad as that may be...

But we COULD end up with a Legion of Non-Loyalist Female Space Marines hiding on the fringes of the Galaxy, waiting for their chance to swoop in and ressurrect the Imperium in the Image of their Maturmarch...

>>26309729
>minimal equipment
That's the short beam with the basic power suit and a single energy tank.
She'd be a huge target and might be able to survive two or three lasgun shots.

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>>26309676
>9999/9999/9999/9999/9999/9999/9999/9999

>>26309727
Who the fuck is that? Some obscure mango?

>>26309729
>MAXIMUM equipment
Maximum doesn't exist. There's only "maximum seen equipment", which would still put her far above one hundred guardsmen. You don't understand how her powers scale with every upgrade.
And god may help us if she ever finds a cloaking upgrade...

Also, what's the source for your image?

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>>26309697
What's even more freaky is that, since she absorbed so much X, and since each X had copied some sort of creature, she ALSO has part of every creature the X copied inside of her.
So, not only is she part Metroid, Chozo, Human, and X, she's also a mash up of things such as Ridley and worse.
Imagine the possibilities!

>>26309751
Yes... YES!!!

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What if Brick and Salvador are Space Marines.

>>26309762
>Maturmarch
Matriarch. The world you are looking for is matriarch.

>>26309775
>invisible Samus
Oh FUCK. There are not enough tubes in the universe to stop this.

>>26309301
Prime 2 beam combos. They're actually really shitty since they are so expensive and slow.

>>26309456
jeezus christ how horrifying.

>>26309779
The game also confirmed that she can get upgrades as pure data.
Let that sink in. And think of what that implies for all the upgrades that she collects.

>>26309301
Prime 2. Although, it was a bit of an exaggeration.

I dislike Space Marines but Samus would not win. Samus doesn't have the heightened natural abilities of a Space Marine - it's Chozo DNA that is pretty much the only salient ability, which is pretty much just for suit interfacing. Her weapons aren't that strong, especially since they often have trouble with combating Space Pirates/Federation armor; putting them on the tier of bolt weapons would be dubious at best.

And more importantly, she is too fearful and emotional. In her latest appearance she freaked the fuck out when confronted with Ridley and would have died if not for the interference of a random black dude. The suit's structural integrity, moreover, is as of her latest game highly dependent on her emotional state - when she got shot in the back by an unaugmented human she was K.O.ed instantly.

She can't do it.

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>>26309788
Ooh... there's some unfortunate implications.

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>>26309774
An evolved form of Shiki Tohno.
MEoDP, or Mystic Eyes of Death Perception is a power that allows for the user to see the lines of death on anything, including concepts, bullets, and even the source of other people's powers.
Slicing these lines means that whatever it is, reguardless of regeneration or anything else.
It dies, permanently.

>>26309808
Named character + a better power suit > generic power fantasy mook.

>>26309396

Curling up is part of the process of entering the morph ball, but she is definitely not actually curled up inside it. You can see directly through the gap between the ball's hemispheres- there's nothing inside but a swirling sphere of energy.

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>>26309788
>Brick and Salvador broing it up, berserking across the galaxy and roflstomping anyone who gets in the way of the next treasure
>possibly teaming up with Vulkan-Hästen and Logan Grimnar

>>26309791
Thank you Anon, I wasn't sure I could go with that since GW never realise or cared the term "Patriarch" existed already...

>>26309301
Well, it depends on how you interpret the sunburst and darkburst beam missile combos from metroid prime 2.

The darkburst is a little hole to another dimension that sucks nearby shit into it. It moves really slowly though, kind of like a sphere of annihilation or something along those lines.

Sunburst is similar in that it's a big glowing ball that moves really slowly, but it's just really hot and bright and burns the shit out of everything it touches.

Both require prohibitively large amounts of beam ammo and missiles to use.

>>26309797
>They're actually really shitty since they are so expensive and slow.
Better than the flamethrower, though.
And the Sonic Boom actually works decently well. It's just fucking expensive.

MP2 is the only game where we saw an ammo system. It was also the game where Samus was shooting rips into reality and small black holes.
Think about that for a moment. What does this imply for her capabilities if she uses external energy sources? She collects the ammo from fallen enemies.
She can power higher calibres of her weaponry with the souls of her enemies. And these higher calibres basically scale her up into Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander territory.
She only uses weapons with unlimited ammo because she has no support. With support, she'd be free to use all kinds of insane equipment.
Maybe that's why she doesn't cloak - It would require additional energy management.

>>26309855
TA/SC territory? The point at which "thermonuke" isn't the strongest thing you can field?

>>26309808
Why must you imply that Other M is canon.

That hurts, you know.

>>26309775
Don't have the source.
I've never been one for sources.
Sorry.

>>26309803
That specific item is lost forever before the start of the next game because she never makes a back up?

No, wait-cloning! It's cloning, isn't it?

>>26309729
Whelp, thanks for the new manga to read.

>>26309871

I don't like *that* either, but the OP said all games. If it were up to me I'd just field a single game's iteration and leave Other M out of the mix, because Samus is gonna get smoked in this scenario.

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>>26309779

Bad news for your headcanon:

>Sakamoto: "When she absorbed the core of the SAX (the perfect condition of Samus), she basically reconstituted her genetic condition. She didn't recover the physical damage of her amputated suit, but she did recover her genetic condition."

http://www.metroid-database.com/features/faq4.php

Mind you, Sakamoto is a fucking hack, so feel free to ignore him.

>>26309775
http://www.metroid-database.com/manga/?vid=22&cid=86
Google Reverse Image Search is your friend.

>>26309825
Considering that he doesn't have the vastly enhanced speed and agility of a SM, he'd be dead before he could even find the correct line to cut.

>>26309880
She doesn't need to search for upgrades.
She just needs a good designer.
And the destruction of her targets is never necessary, if she's just out for the upgrade. It's just something she does for fun.

>>26309763
At the very least, each Energy Tank would replenish her Wound total automatically as soon as she hits 0 wounds.

>>26309888
Man I'd just go for fielding Corruption in that case.

Hyper mode on demand, bitches.

>>26309895
The fact that he can kill Servants, some of whom have attacks that happen at light speed, means he is quick enough to handle a space marine.

Granted I still think he wouldn't last long, but he is definitely quick enough.

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>>26309834
>Accompanied by Axton the Cadian, and Roland the Stormtrooper
>Autogun turrets with mini-nukes, healing bullets,
>Lilith and Maya, are reality distorting Psykers, with Lilith being a Human Warp Spider.
>Zer0 and Mordecai are Eversor and Vindicare assassins respectively.
>Drunk Spanish and haikus galore.

Thanks for helping me with my next Rogue Trader game.

>>26309895
It's Nasuverse.
The "normal" humans there move at supersonic speed for some reason.

>>26309890
Fuck Sakamoto.
His goal was to make the suit feminine, it seems.

>>26309788
>implying for an instance that anything in Borderlands or Borderlands 2, is anything other than an Ork reskinned to be a human.

>>26309890
Why would I listen to him? No one in their right mind, should or would.

>>26309935
Samus becomes the bringer of Phazon and death.
That should be hilarious. I wonder how Kane would react to her.

>>26309895
Oh but he does.
In fact before he became Satsujinki he reacted at Mach 14+ speeds when in a combat trance.
Satsunjinki makes it so he ALWAYS is on a combat trance.
Speed wise, he's probably Hyper Sonic since his body follows through with his reaction speeds, and he's outclassed several higher beings than himself.
Strength wise he isn't all that big, he can tear a human skull in half with his hands, but that doesn't mean much against a Space Marine.

>>26309943
That "normal" human is one of the best out of a lineage of demon hunters, who have been constantly inbreeding to keep their powers in line.
Emiya Shirou is hardly a "normal" human either, being implanted with Avalon and having Archer bullshit is 100% not normal.

>>26309808
One, I strongly object to including Other M at all, because that is a shit game to begin with and an abomination of a Metroid game. Metroid fans think of Other M like Type Moon fans think of the Tsukihime anime.

Two, she got shot once in the back while her defenses were down because she trusted the guy, whereas in a battle she would never do that (see: every Metroid game, in which she gets shot by damn near everything and takes a bit of damage).

And three, fuck the emotional breakdown, that was against an enemy that KILLED HER PARENTS. Nevermind that she'd wiped the floor with him some six times by that point already, chronologically. God I fucking hate Other M.

If we're taking everything from every game, the bonuses far outweigh the two moments of weakness Other M showed. Between the myriad of suits, beams, missiles, visors, et al, Samus is pretty much godmode hax.

>>26309965
>Hyper Sonic
Now we are going into fullretard territory.
And his comparably low strength just makes it more retarded.

>>26309943
There's concept art of the Zero suit that made special note that the heels shouldn't be very high.

And yet, as we see in Other M, they have her walking about with her stripper heels on.

>>26309981
At least she had a nice ass in Other M.

>>26309972
Rules #1 and #2, faggot.

>>26309862
Wait, what if this is the reason why her equipment gets lost?
She basically abuses the stuff by making it use up itself through overloading or something, which means that only lasts for a few days (as long as most of her missions) until it just breaks.

>>26309972

>defenses were down because she trusted the guy
Actually no, he got the drop on her somehow, even though her suit has built-in radar.

>>26309974
>Now we are going into fullretard territory.
He matched Nrvnqsr Chaos in his 999th Beast form that is comparable to Arcueid in speed, and he was traveling at Hypersonic speeds.
How do you expect that he stabbed Chaos in the exact right spot through instinct without having the speed to match him?

>>26310011
I thought we were talking about Adam shooting her in the back while she was walking away. I don't remember Other M very well.

>>26310003
My point exactly. At least the soundtrack was good.

>>26310015
The issue with hypersonic speed is that our understanding of aerodynamics breaks down at that point. Air behaves differently if you are that fast and will rip your arms off.

>>26309990
That's relative.
I've seen some nice asses in my day.
Not to say that it isn't nice; I'd rather just omit that observation out of respect.

>>26309972

It's the latest, explicitly canon iteration of Samus we have, and the only one to give any read on her emotional state at all. You may not like the writing - and that's a good thing, because it's badly written! - but it is the most authoritative thing we have.

Gameplay power, which is lenient for ease of play, has to be weighed against cutscenes as well. I take cutscenes with more weight, which is problematic for Samus as even in games outside of Other M she's been sucker-punched by some seriously mooky enemies, and she doesn't have nearly the resilience displayed in-game. Meanwhile, Movie Marine bullshit is off the charts.

Samus is hax relative to the caliber of her own games, I don't think she can take the stupid SM bullshit at all.

>>26310030
Well, he doesn't usually go at that speeds, not that it'd matter since Space Marines don't go at that speed anyway.
He's quite durable too anyway.

>>26310032
I prefer if I can respect her without losing the fanservice.
Other M was fucking degrading, but she doesn't have to be ugly or hide herself in a burka to be badass. It's not like she's nude in combat - She's only doing it when it's practical.

>>26310024

Nope, Samus is distracted by the deadly Metroid in front of her, and then Adam strolls out from behind a pillar and shoots her. For basically no reason, too.

>>26309938
No, he /can/ kill them. That means he has the ability to. It does not mean that he has the means to.
At his hypest Tohno ran on walls and jumped off of the ceiling to get in range to attack Akiha, and he still took a heavy blow. Satsujinki is basically him at 100% 100% of the time.
He's basically an Eversor with maxed out movement and agility, lower toughness, an accurate death attack, and an invuln save. He might take out a composite space marine if he's lucky, but a good Servant is too hard unless he gets the drop on them.

>>26310048
Didn't Other M also reduce her height?

>>26310036
>the only one to give any read on her emotional state at all.
Did you forget her small wave after she saves the Luminoth?
Or the moment when she looks at the ruins of Talon IV's Impact Crater?
Or in MP3, where she vomits and goes on with her business?
Or when she raids a Pirate base in Zero Mission?

And as a side note:
She has plenty "movie marines" bullshit going on in the cutscenes. She can kill pirates with uncharged shots in MP3's cutscenes, for example.

>>26310048
You make an excellent point.
I cede the discussion to you.

>>26310036
While you've hidden your Marine Fanboyism well, your sockpuppeting has given you away...

Considering when I picture "Rule 63 Space Marine" I see Samus FUCKING Aran, I would at the VERY least give her equal footing to an Armored Super Soilder who is often brought down by standing in the way of a thousand flashlights.

>>26310087

These examples are little details, not story focal points that I'm persuaded are designed to give any special insight on her emotional state.

...and 'killing pirates with uncharged shots' isn't exactly what I'd call impressive. It's not like we're talking about Dante from Devil May Cry or anything, which is about what I'd need to see to seriously consider Samus in this matchup.

>>26310083
She's 6'9".
She's supposed to be the tallest human in any given room, but she wasn't anywhere near the tallest in Other M.
So yes, they did.

>>26310072
Which I think he would since doesn't he "ping" as regular human? Similar to how servants treated Shiro until they learned that he could actually kill them?

All of my type moon knowledge is either secondhand or from hanging out in the Fate-Zero threads. So I'm probably way off base.

>>26310142
And that's outside her suit, by the way.
I think her suit slaps another few inches on her.

>>26310116

I really, really, *really* dislike Space Marines, not least of which because I think the 'no women allowed' thing is dumb as all shit. Resorting to that kind of ad hominem isn't going to change my opinion, however, which I can keep separate from my personal feelings on the matter. Just because it 'feels' like Samus should be able to match up with the marines doesn't mean that is necessarily logical.

>>26310116
Equal footing is laughable in that regard, considering Samus is a named character and 'a space marine' is a power-wank mook.

>>26310083

There was never exactly a canon number to begin with- just a very doubtfully canon Nintendo Power page that said she was 6'3 with the suit on. In Other M she's ~5'4, though, without the suit.

>>26310137
>which is about what I'd need to see to seriously consider anything taking on Samus in this matchup.
Fixed.

>>26310072
You're forgetting the fact that he can make 16 attacks in under a second.
See: Where he killed Arcueid.
Now with every one of those attacks being instantly one of the following, if it hits,
1) Debilitating
2) Instant death
3) Amputating

How could a Space Marine ever stand a chance?

Samus crushes it. Samus' suit is ludicrously better, even if she wasn't personally (and she's pretty much equivalent).

>>26310137
Regular Pirate = Regular Guardsman
And those moments are anything but little.
They are the few informing moments we had in an otherwise completely stoic character.
When we did see them, we were supposed to know their gravity by their rarity.

>>26310171
>>26310176
I'd prefer if they'd make a compromise.
The American sources aren't exactly the most sane ones, anyway. We also had the entire "bounty hunter" miscommunication.

>>26309862
Flamethrower is alright in the Wii version I understand. It's just that the Plasma beam is so strong it doesn't need the help..

Only the Super missile and the occasional tactical Wavebuster is useful. The ice one only gets a mention for being damn effective on the end boss.

>>26310227

Pirate = Guardsman is again a dubious proposition for me, but that's not really here nor there (any shot from a marine is going to shred a guardsman like tissue paper so it's not terribly important).

Meanwhile, I feel like you're overthinking this - the Metroid games prior to Other M other than *maybe* Fusion just aren't story driven on any appreciable level. I simply don't think they're putting that much thought into it as it relates to Samus's overall personality.

>>26310281
>Wii version
The Wii version downgrades basically everything else, though.

>>26310172
Look, it's not about how much firepower or armor one has over the other...
It's MINDSET!

Samus is THE HUNTER while Space Marines, for all their martial prowess, often resort to methods that are tactically INSANE.

>>26310173
Yes, but I'm arguing with a Closet Marine fanboy here, who doesn't seem to realise Marines often die in HUGE numbers due to their lack of common sense.

>>26310176
>just a very doubtfully canon Nintendo Power page that said she was 6'3 with the suit on.

No, it's been mentioned elsewhere that she stands out of armor at somewhere in the 6' mark. I think I recall seeing somewhere that it was even reconfirmed by the creator.

>>26309751
>She'd likely start by raiding a Blood Raven armory for useful upgrades.

"Chapter Master Angelos, I come baring news!"
"Speak, Apollo"
"Sir, we detected an intruder in the armory, we believe they were after our wargear"
"This is terrible Apollo! Why was I not informed earlier? Was it ork lootas, heretics, dissidents?"
"No sir, that's the odd thing, the intruder took them and seemed to integrate it into their suit!"
"Apollo…are you saying they managed to steal our equipment's essence, yet leave the original behind?"
"Exactly si…Sir, why are you crying? At least I think you are, it's difficult to tell with that augmetic"
"Apollo, my dear captain, we have found them at last!"
"Who, sir?"
"Think, Apollo, A being with the ability to steal wargear, yet leave the victim none the wiser! Our Primarch has returned!"

>>26310083
From 6'3" to 5'4" without the suit, yeah.

>>26310316

I don't think the strategic lapses endemic to the Astartes are really going to come into play in this 1v1, no other details scenario. Nothing suggests that to me, at any rate, though if you'd like to illustrate it with further explanation I'd be much obliged.

...meanwhile it's not like Samus doesn't have her share of tactical mistakes as well. I can't see a decisive argument favoring her.

>>26310342
>steal
Other than that, an enjoyable read.

>>26310316
Well, lack of common sense is part of it. Indeed the major reason marines are actually portrayed with such rampant amounts of power-wank, is because of dev/writer bias and absurd notions of shit like '1 tac squad killing millions of dark eldar'. In many ways, Black Library was on of the worst things ever when it came to the fanbase's perceived marine powerlevel.

>>26310357
She's also a genetically enhanced super-soldier, with better power armor and more experience.

>>26310316
>Marines often die in HUGE numbers due to their lack of common sense.

Not the guy you're replying to, but the only example I can think of for Marines getting stupid numbers of themselves killed off the top of my head is in Soulstorm. I kinda thought that Space Marines don't lose many men when it all goes horribly wrong due to the fact that they tend to not deploy many troops in the first place?

>>26310357
Plasma Beam + Wave Beam

Marine has absolutely no defence against it.

>>26310189
Take away his bitches, in all seriousness shiki is a retarded character which does make some sense considering he is the main protag of Type/moons first Vn by the time they made shiriou they seemed to understand that your male protag needs to have a personality outside of fuck bitches and i cant control my self

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>>26310342
Glorious.

>>26310341
>>26310347
Well, 190 is insane, especially for a Japanese female.
It does showcase her alienness, though...

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>>26310341

I'm extremely skeptical of that, since I've never seen any such proof, and Sakamoto seems to prefer her short.

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>>26310171
>>26310142
No, she's 6'3"

>>26310398
Tsukihime's remake will see to the writing.

>>26310379

Marines are genetically enhanced, to much further extremes than Samus. They're also the kind of things a 12 year old would come up with (HE'S GOT TWO HEARTS AND SPITS ACID), but nevertheless.

I don't see an argument for her power armor being better, certainly not better than the best the marines could get access to. I know we haven't dwelled too much on their capabilities, but Artificer armor, Terminators, Dreadknights, these things have a lot more fluff on them and their stunning resilience, while Samus's has been pretty chumpy on more than one occasion.

And Samus definitely doesn't have more experience, that's crazy. Marines live and fight for hundreds of years.

>>26310422
The japs are all crazy short anyway. Having a girl at 170cm means giant, something like 6'3" is probably not within the realm of their imagination.

>>26310436
>to much further extremes than Samus
Samus was engineered specifically to survive on Zebes. A place where the rain is acid and the wildlife that of a death world.

>I don't see an argument for her power armor being better
Now that's just wanking to insane extents.
Does a single Marine have enough weaponry on their body to destroy a small Titan? No?

>>26310429
198 lbs?
Jesus she must be STRONK for a wimminz.

>>26310342
omg, stealing stuff FROM the Blood Ravens! Now that's what I call brave!
>We got robbed! Get ready to move out and reclaim what is ours! - Angelos
>Leave the current crusade
>Call in favors to track down thief
>Follow thief with 10 Companies for as long as it takes to get her

>>26310422

why would young samus be in the army if she was raised by birds?

>>26310478
considering her job, probably

>>26310393

Force fields aside (I'd certainly expect a composite marine to have an Iron Halo or somesuch), how can we possibly determine this? It shreds through the chaff in Zero Mission, but those chumps don't even begin to approach the upper limits of 40k wank.

>>26310419
I don't think she's Japanese, is she? Remember she's been cybernetically, genetically enhanced by the Chozo.

>>26310478
Yeah, she's supposed to be pretty much an amazonian muscle woman. The whole 'Amazon Warrior' trope has pretty much been applied to her for decades now.

>>26310466
Let's put it this way:
How many Space Marine Missions end with them BLOWING UP THE PLANET and SURVIVING to do it again?

>>26310509
She was born in a mining colony.

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>>26310509
Plus she's blond-haired blue-eyed. Probably.

>>26310466

>Samus was engineered specifically to survive on Zebes. A place where the rain is acid and the wildlife that of a death world.
Yes, and...? Space Marines have all that and more. It's stupid best evar wank, it's their hat.

>Does a single Marine have enough weaponry on their body to destroy a small Titan? No?

Nothing Samus has ever done suggests to me that she can take down a small Titan. At least make the argument rather than acting as if it is self-evident.

>>26310422
I really fucking despise Other M's bullshit.

>>26310495

We may never know.

>>26310490
Meanwhile, the rest of the Chapters send "help".
Those helpers are actually just there to record the entire ordeal because of how hilarious it is.

>>26310527
A bunch?

I wanted more of those bounty hunter from the DS game, they looked pretty cool.

>>26310501
Plasma beam: Shoots through living matter.
Wave beam: Shoots through inorganic matter.
Both combined: Penetrates any armor, both organic and inorganic, and anything in a line behind the target for a few hundred meters.

>>26310466

According to the only canon data we have, Zebes has a gravitational pull nearly 1000 times stronger than Earth's.

>>26310539
>Nothing Samus has ever done suggests to me that she can take down a small Titan. At least make the argument rather than acting as if it is self-evident.
Quadraxis. Ridley. Metroid Prime. Nightmare.
Now kill yourself.

>>26310539
>Kraid
>Ridley and all his mechanical counterparts
>Omega Metroid
>Mother Brain
>that Golem from Metroid prime
>that plant thing from Metroid prime
>Metroid Prime itself
>Draygon

>>26310547
LaughingEldar.jpg
...HA, this guy!
Let me guess, you think Warhammer's Grimderp doesn't apply to the likes of Smurfs and Wolves?

>>26310561

This is, uh, speculation to be *charitable*. Unless there's an authoritative source stating that the combined plasma wave beam can destroy literally anything and everything this isn't much better than asserting Samus's armor crumples to a couple of flashlights.

>>26310429

Her body in pre-Other M games when those stats weren't in question didn't look that bulky though.

Maybe she's just like Marvel Asgardians and made of denser stuff than humans?

>>26310605
>Source
Metroid Fusion.

>combined plasma wave beam can destroy literally anything and everything
moving the goalposts

>>26310586

None of these things even come close to the described firepower of something like a Warhound Titan. They're big things, sure, but they're more akin to like Sentinel Walkers or maybe Dreadnoughts if you wanted to be really charitable. They simply don't display destructive magnitude on that level.

Again, acting as if things are self-evident does not make it so. Your arguments are incensed, but they are not persuasive.

>>26310652
>Dreadnoughts if you wanted to be really charitable.
There is no point in arguing with you.

4/10

>>26310643

I'm not moving the goalposts; we are still contending with your initial claim that a marine has no defense against the plasma/wave beam (it's obviously untrue given that force fields exist, but to continue deconstruction).

More importantly, where is the source in Metroid Fusion? Where is it cited, in-game?

>>26310637
She's genetically engineered. She basically went through her universe's space marine treatment.

>>26310643
Actually, you said that a combined plasma wave beam could destroy any and all organic or inorganic matter. That is for all intents and purposes everything that exists as if something is not made of matter it does not exist on this plane.

So now that we've settled that, who's up for Lost Primarch Samus fluffing?

>>26310704
In game description of the Plasma Beam and Adam's comments on it when it's described.

And yes, it is moving the goalposts, since
>marine has no defence against it
is different from
>destroy literally anything and everything
unless the marine can make tactical use of 20 metres of rock and fight Samus at the same time.

Forgot the technology aspect, Samus Aran is the only human being to ever survive being infected by an X Parasite, a species so deadly that they could easily infect and wipe out Tyranids and The Flood from Halo. Then she extincted them.

She also wiped out the Metroids, the only race that's actually able to kill X Parasites. Her job is to kill things that shouldn't be kill-able.

>>26310762
But could she kill Shiki?

>>26310736
I am! Sounds amusing.

>>26310704
>Where is it cited, in-game?
When you are told that Sa-X is immune to anything except for the penetrative abilities of the Plasma beam. Not to mention that the plasma beam penetrates enemies ingame.
The Wave beam is specifically used to shoot through inorganic matter.
You are moving your fucking goalposts because no matter-based defense will stop these weapons. They will go through the ceramite, through the skin, the bones, the inner organs, while destroying/damaging all of it along the way.
The Iron Halo is an entirely different matter, especially as the SA-X is weak to plasma, which might mean that it also penetrates shielding.

>>26310762
>Then she extincted them.
She didn't.
She just destroyed the space station.

>>26310786

A simple autocannon can penetrate power armor, that's not a big feat.

>>26310802
It detonated in the planet's atmosphere and it's implied that she wiped out that planet.

>>26310802
The stations detonation wiped out the planet they inhabited.

That's why the federation was so pissed.

>>26310802

By ramming said station into their home planet.

>>26310747

See: >>26310730

And looking at the Metroid Fusion transcript...

>SC: What? You've restored Plasma Beam functionality? ...Most unexpected. Even so, continue to avoid the SA-X. It, too, may be stronger. And you still lack a few abilities crucial to survival.

It's described as a 'penetrating weapon'. That's it.

>>26310817
>>26310821
>>26310822

You know, if a nuke would do the trick, why didn't the Chozo fucking try that? Is it one of those "when all you've got is a hammer" type things?

>>26310762
EXACTLY!
Now, how much of an Oh Crap moment will Horo!Russ have when the Imperium figures out he didn't actually finish her long forgotten sister off?

>>26310811
...When said Power Armor is what keeps Space Marines alive? Sure they'll have forcefields, but she has other weapons for that.

>>26310821
>That's why the federation was so pissed.
Are you telling me that destroying THE LAST REMAINING METROIDS, which were part of a top-secret research project, in addition to an entire space station full of valuable data isn't enough to make them pissed?

>>26310811
>>26310817
You overestimate the strength of an exploding space station.

>>26310831
Look at the briefing when he talks about the SA-X. Not when the beam was already recovered.

>>26310851
It's in the game, bro.
I don't have to overestimate anything.
>>26310845
Metroids did the job. remember that they lived on that fucking planet, they hardly have an interest in wiping it out even if they didn't already have a solution at hand

>>26310781
The Blood Ravens were founded by her.
Their original task was to collect gifts for their Primarch, to allow her to upgrade consistently and keep upgraded (as she'd burn through the upgrades at alarming pace).
That's why they are thieves.

>>26310877
>It's in the game, bro.
I do not remember this.

>>26310877
>they lived on that fucking planet
No, IIRC the Chozo stayed the fuck away from SR388 because of all the X.

>>26310602
Naw, I don't know much about the 40k.

>>26310891
She explicitly stated that she had foiled their plans to get the X parasite and that they were too shortsighted to understand why she did it.

It's logical to infer that the planet was wiped out, otherwise their plans would be hindered in no way.

>>26310866

Unless the two readouts of the game transcript are wildly incomplete, that's still not right.

>SC: But you're still too weak. That thing is too much for you. You currently have no way of damaging it. But my simulations indicate that a penetrating weapon like the Plasma Beam might work.

Like I keep saying, the best I see described for it is a 'penetrating weapon'. If you'd be so charitable as to provide the exact text supporting your point, I'd be much obliged.

>>26310913
You are jumping to conclusions.
It might as well be the fact that they don't have anymore Metroids to counter the X in case something goes wrong.

>>26310850

Power armor doesn't keep a Space Marne alive in any way, shape or form. They just wear it as armor - it's not like they're sewn into their suits or anything.

>>26310954
Why is anyone even acknowledging the existence of this moron?

>>26310850
That's a dreadnought you're thinking of.

>>26310954
I thought one of their 21 geneseeds was a second skin that let them directly interface to their suit.

And he's speaking as the Power Armor keeps them alive vs space-bullets, not as an iron lung.

>>26310954
It keeps them alive in the sense that they are not bulletproof or regenerative. If you have a weapon that can pierce through their armor they are much easier to kill.

>>26310992
Wolverine-regenerative, I mean.

>>26310881
Leman Russ attacked her for using Xeno tech and accepting aid from Xenos.
While shorter than her brother, her inventive use of her abilities and agility allowed her to gain the upper hand and soundly defeated him, yet refrained from a killing blow in the knowledge that killing him would lead to her legion being annihilated without mercy.

Worried at the safety of her legion, she contacted Magnus the Red, being aware that the two brothers had no love for each other, and asked him to keep her legion safe.
Magnus agreed, and inducted them into his legion, and then created the Corvidae cult so that they might continue their sacred mission.

After this, she took her Advanced assault craft and led the pursuing Space Wolves in a deco mission. Unfortunately, she ventured too close to a warp drift and was taken to places unknown.

When the heresy struck, the Blood Ravens, unsure if they should back those who persecuted their primarch, but concerned that she would never ally with such despicable beings, remained neutral to the conflict.
When it became clear that the Imperium was a necessary evil, they agreed to safeguard it for when their Leader returns.

As with all knowledge in the Imperium of man, the Blood Ravens slowly lost their knowledge of their Primach. Initially it was barred for their own protection, with only the captains an the chapter master being aware of it, but attrition took it's toll, and they eventually lost their knowledge.

Until recently, they knew their sacred task of retrieving relics, but did not know why. With the discovery of the Kronus artifacts, the truth has become clear.

Now Chapter Master Angelos, First Captain Diomedes, Captain Thule and Captain Vanile Cryo are the only living Blood Ravens that retain knowledge of the lost primarch.
They await her return, none shall find them wanting when she does.

>>26309158
>Wouldn't say she's more agile

Nigga have you ever SEEN a Metroid game? You start with the ability to infinitely kick off walls to scale sheer vertical surfaces. This is not an exploit: It's required to progress at one point in Super Metroid. Samus is a gold medal Olympian at very least.

>>26311164
I was talking about combat ability.
She can obviously go full Alien on the Marines and murder them by walljumping into their vents and dropping bombs.

>>26311092
Damn, this is way better then my idea of Samus building a Legion of Female Space Marines on the fringes of the known Galaxy to replace her "False-father's" Xenophobic Empire after it had sufficiently crumbled into ruin...

Kudos Anon!

>>26311207
We spent years constantly thinking of this concept.
Finally we found a version that makes comfortable sense.

>>26311092
>>26311207
>>26311238
Now I wonder what Bjorn has to say on the matter.

>>26311238
And this is why I love /tg/!


...But still, any possibilities of this resulting in Female Space Marines?

>>26311207
>>26311238
>>26311262
I-I have /tg/ approval? This is the happiest day of my life

>>26309788
I love the theory that Zero is an Iridian.

In case anybody hasn't noticed, he only has 3 fingers. There are no other known sentient alien species in Borderlands.

I know a videogame journalist. He interviewed some developers at Gearbox and asked about if Zero was one or not. They changed the subject extremely quickly. I know I'm just some guy on the internet giving you the "well my dad works at Nintendo and" treatment, but still.

>>26311275
Well, technically you wouldn't be able to differentiate between male and female marines, since they're all however many kilos of tankflesh.

>>26311275
>...But still, any possibilities of this resulting in Female Space Marines?
That's the reason why the records were destroyed by Thule.
They revealed that the Blood Ravens were once female. But then Magnus mutated the geneseed because he's gay.

>>26311305
Aren't they supposed to be extinct? Or maybe they just left for parts unknown, like every fucking video game alien precursor.

>>26311355
Maybe they were Chozoaboos. They left because the Chozo left, as Chozo are behind every hyper-advanced alien species.

>>26311318
Well in my head, Fem-marines take after Samus' Amazonian body, so they have the same mass as a Male Marine but its' streached out over a much lanker and lithe frame...

...So yeah, ten to eleven foot-tall mini-giantess who all have Big Schoolgirl complexes due to towering over other Astartes.

>>26311401
Please don't do that.
Have them slightly smaller than Space Marines and with a variety of body shapes.

>>26311444
What?
Why do they have to be SMALLER?
Variety of Body Shape I'll give you, but realise I'm trying to pack all the organs that make a regular marine so X-BAWK HUEG into a nominally proportional female body...
Torso cavity needs to be scaled up for that else they're all squat and stubby...
Do realise that I do have them mechanically weaker because of their lanker frames however...

>>26311262
"Brother Bjorn, we know you dislike speaking of the pre heresy events, we have something that we wish to discuss in light of our recent discoveries"

PROVIDED IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU KNOW FUCKING WHO, I'M FINE

"It may relate tangentially, Brother, it concerns the missing Primarchs, and one in particular, the Primarch Aran"

WAIT, HOW DID YOU KNOW ABOUT SAMUS? EVEN I ONLY KNEW ABOUT THAT ONE BECAUSE FUCKING LEMAN WAS TOO HUNGOVER TO PUT HIS SUIT ON WHEN HE VISITED ZEBES AND I WAS THE NEAREST GUY. SERIOUSLY, MILLIONS OF FUCKING SERFS WHO WOULD CREAM THEMSELVES TO SERVE HIM AND HE PICKS ME? FUCKING PRICK.

"erm, yes, well anyway, We discovered the knowledge on the planet Kronus, and we wish to hear your input"

FINE, I'LL DO IT. BUT ONLY BECAUSE I LIKED HER

"Wait, you did? Why? i thought the missing primarchs were traitors"

WHY DO YOU THINK? SHE MADE LEMAN LOOK LIKE A DICKHEAD AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY.
FIRST TIME THEY MET, HE SLAPPED HER ON THE ASS AND ASKED FOR A QUICK FUCK. SHE RESPONDED BY CHUCKING HIM OUT A WINDOW.
HE TRIED TO PRETEND HE LET HER WIN, BUT WE ALL KNEW DIFFERENT. LION WAS TRYING SO FUCKING HARD NOT TO LAUGH

"While this is interesting brother, can we hear more of the raid on Zebes?
The one started due to accusations of Xeno tech?

XENO TECH? IS THAT WHAT YOU HEARD?

"Is that not what happened?"

FUCK NO!
LEMAN WAS TRYING TO SCORE YET AGAIN AND GOT SHOT DOWN. SERIOUSLY, SHE WAS HIS SISTER, DID HE HAVE NO SHAME?
SORRY, BACK ON TRACK, HE GOT HAMMERED AND STUMBLED OVER HER ARMOURY.

NOW YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT SAMUS WAS FAMOUS IN HER SECTOR FOR BEING A ONE WOMAN DEATH MACHINE. NOT EVEN MAGNUS "OH SORRY, WAS THAT YOUR TITAN" THE RED HAS SHIT ON HER.
HER WEAPONRY WAS PHENOMENAL, AND WE NEVER KNEW WHERE SHE GOT IT FROM
TURNED OUT THAT SHE WAS CAPABLE OF INCORPORATING WEAPONRY INTO HER POWER ARMOUR. FUCK KNOWS HOW IT WAS DONE.
NOW EVEN LEMAN WAS SMART ENOUGH TO SMELL XENO TECH, SO HE STOMPED OFF AT FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO CONFRONT HER

>>26311355
There's no reason to think they're extinct. They're just not on Pandora anymore, so it is -assumed- they're extinct, as they haven't been found anywhere else. Borderlands 2 confirmed that there are only 6 human-populated galaxies in the universe, though, so they could still have galaxy-spanning empires elsewhere, and nobody would know.

Actual spoilers:
And the ending of Borderlands 2 confirmed that they were a hyper-advanced spacefaring race that dotted the galaxy you play in with dozens of Vaults.

I'm also predicting that the entire backstory of Sanctuary and Dahl's failed mining operations, indeed the entire Caustic Caverns area, was to set up in explicit terms that the protagonists now have the galaxy's most advanced mining colony ship, specifically to serve as a base of operations/transport in Borderlands 3 when you're implied to be planet-hopping between various Vault sites.

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> make this thread in response to a thread on /v/ a while back where /v/ fanwanked the Marine, and wanted to see what you guys thought of the matchup
> Forget about it while playing Torchlight 2
> literally hours later I refresh the page expecting a 404 or people telling me to kill myself or something like that
> a thread full of civil discussiom. actual power comparisons, and even fanlore to incorprate Samus into the 40k universe.

/tg/


You guys are fucking awesome

>>26311576
HA!
This is EXACTLY how I pictured their interaction...

...It also make Horo!Russ even funnier if the two ever met up again:

*Samus stare at her little brother turned little sister."

Leman- "...What?"

Samus- *Begins supressing the giggles, fails horribly.*

Leman-"S-stop laughing! I was in the Warp a long time, OK! I discover things about myself and shit..."

Samus-*Uproariously laughing at this point.*

Leman- "QUIT IT, I'M THE ALPHA WOLF HERE, THE ALPHA WOLF!!!"

>>26311262
>>26311576
"and then?"

WHAT DO YOU THINK? HE WAS ON THE ASS END OF ANOTHER ASS KICKING.
BUT SHE WAS IN TROUBLE, SHE KNEW THAT EVEN SHE COULDN'T GET AWAY WITH THIS SHIT, AND SHE COULD NEVER GET AWAY WITH KILLING A PRIMARCH WHO, DESPITE BEING AN ASSHOLE, WAS FULFILLING THE EMPEROR'S WISHED.

"What did she do?"

WELL FIRST OFF, SHE GOT HER LEGION THE FUCK OUT OF THERE, SHE MUST HAVE HAD SOME DEAL WITH SOMEONE, BECAUSE WE NEVER SAW THE FUCKERS AGAIN.
THEN SHE TOOK POT SHOTS AT LEMAN'S FLAGSHIP, AND BUGGERED OFF TO GO ON A DISTRACTION MISSION.
TRAGICALLY, THE WARP IS AN UNSTABLE BITCH AT THE BEST OF TIMES, AND THIS WAS A PARTICULARLY TURBULENT ONE. SHE WENT THROUGH THE WARP AND WE NEVER SAW HER AGAIN.
HOPE SHE'S ALRIGHT.
MAYBE SHE'S BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF LEMAN IN THE WARP AS WE SPEAK

"fascinating! This really helps seal the holes in the Kronus archive! Now, one more question, what can you tell me about her Legion"

NOT MUCH TO SAY REALLY, THEY DID THE JOB LIKE ALL OTHERS. WEIRD THAT THEY HAD A FEMALE PRIMARCH AND MALE MARINES, BUT THAT'S HOW THE EMPEROR ROLLS.

"Are you sure, was there nothing else?"

NOW YOU MENTION IT, AND NOW I RECALL THAT XENO TECH, MAYBE THERE WAS CREDENCE TO ONE RUMOUR I HEARD

"what was that"

THERE WAS A STRANGE TENDENCY FOR THE WORLDS SAMUS' LEGION CONQUERED TO BE SCOURED FROM ANY TECHNOLOGY. NOW I RECALL HER ABILITY TO ASSIMILATE TECH, I THINK I KNOW WHERE IT WENT.
IT ALSO EXPLAINS THE RUMOUR THAT HER MARINES WERE THIEVING LITTLE SHITS, IF HALF THE RUMOURS ARE TRUE, THEY'D STEAL THE BOLTS RIGHT OUT OF…OF
WAIT A MINUTE…

"brother? why are you staring at your paint job?"

YOU CHEEKY LITTLE FUCKERS.

END

>>26311576
>>26311771
So, do we put this onto 1d4chan or is it too fanwanky for the vulnerable souls there?
And do you think the archive would purge it?

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>>26311667

/tg/ is a magical place.

>>26311853
I think it's more screencap worthy for future Samus/Blood Raven related threads

On 1d4chan, unless it was in a dedicated Primarch Samus page, it would feel out of context.
The other Bjorn stories are alternate takes on what has happened, rather than new background

>>26311621
>Only 6 human populated galaxies
>Only

Anyways, I just assumed so because of the ruins that dot Pandora. Though I guess that can be explained by the Destroyer rampaging through the planet before they managed to seal it away.

>>26311940
Samus has an article on 1d4chan, though.
We could upload the screencap there.

Can someone do a decent screencap or should I do my hours in paint?

>>26312002
Sounds like a plan.
I don't like foisting it on someone else, but my paint/screencap fu is fairly horrendous

>>26311621
But that still begs the question of why Zer0's using pathetic human gear rather than his own Eridian weaponry, and why he's even doing something as childish as mercenary work on a backwater planet.

>>26309972
>six times
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Other M take place, literally, right after Super Metroid in the chronology?

Like, the tutorial area you're in at the beginning is right after her debriefing of the incident, including the baby metroid, which is why they have the baby's DNA to clone into a queen metroid.

Unless all of the Prime games happen before Super Metroid, that is.

I mean, I'm no scholar on the chronology, but... I guess I'm asking you to elaborate, more than anything.

>>26312150

The Prime games do indeed precede Super.

http://www.metroid-database.com/features/nomsakamoto.php
>"Sakamoto: The story takes place between the first one on the Famicom Disk System and is followed by Metroid II."

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>>26312150
Starts at the bottom.

>>26312150
>Unless all of the Prime games happen before Super Metroid, that is.


Op here. if I am not mistaken. Metroid timeline is:

Metroid 1, Prime Series, Metroid 2, Super Metroid, Other M, Metroid Fusion.

Fusion is the last chronological Metroid

>>26311696
...Am I the only one who wants to see the Sibling Team up of Russ, Samus, and their respective Legions of Viking Werewolves and Psychic Vampires to unfuck the Galaxy and humiliate Guilliman Blueberries?

>>26312209
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>>26312231
Well, holy shit. Makes less sense, now, that she lost her shit when she saw him. Though, she may have just assumed that he was dead for good after the incident in Super Metroid. It doesn't account for the whole, "oh god, flip the fuck out, lapse into PTSD," thing, but I could see a short moment of, "I thought you were dead," style shock after seeing him.

Followed closely by some, "let's fix that, shall we," style reassurance since she's done it so many times, now. Seriously, Other M's writing was terrible. To get any enjoyment out of it, you have to ignore, or completely skip over, most of the cutscenes.

>>26312380

Other M's writing is so bad that you almost anticipate getting back to the painfully linear and simplistic gameplay. It's like the game itself is trying to play good-cop-bad-cop with you.

The most fucked up part of Samus' arsenal, the Light and Dark beams of Prime 2, is not that she fires singularities of both the "infinitely hot" and "depthless void" varieties. It's that she's firing the axiomatic extremes of good and evil. Aether is not split on "phase wavelength" technobabble terms, it is split between "healthy planet, thriving ecosystem" and "twisted nightmarish Tim Burton production" terms. The D&D equivalent would be the different between Prime Material plane and the Plane of Shadow. And she's -shooting it-. From a -gun-. The Dark Beam's charge shots actually lash out and cling to enemies, slowing them and causing damage over time as it saps their life force.

The "Sonic Boom" attack, that requires both Light and Dark beam ammunition to fire? It's Sonic in name only, and only because of the rippling shockwaves and audible explosion when it goes off give it a faint visual similarity to a sonic effect. The description specifies that she is actually -ripping reality- which is why "fractures" appear alongside the shockwaves.

Samus is shooting, as a linear beam, what happens when you put a Portable Hole into a Bag of Holding.

>>26312429
The thing is, they did it for the worst reason, ever: Marketing.

They made her shorter, less muscled, hell, overall less of an actual strong female character, and more in line with Japan's idea of what femininity is, because it wasn't selling well in Japan. She wasn't what Japan wanted to see when they heard the words, "strong female character," so they overhauled her to make her fit, and made her an antagonistic, emotionless little shit who shuts up and listens whenever someone above her says something in the process.

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>>26312066
Thank fuck for the new Win+print hotkey.
Sorry for the delay, my computer froze for ten minutes because I accidentally increased the image to about 24k resolution in paint.

>>26312513
Actually, no.
It wasn't marketing. It was Sakamoto projecting his ideas of the ideal girl onto Samus.
Team Ninja made the game and considered Sakamoto's ideas to be degrading. TEAM NINJA.

>>26312518
>fulfilling the emperor's wished

Goddamn you hindsight!!!!!

>>26312518
>>26312562
Does someone know how to add it to Samus' 1d4chan page?
Pages generally have a bunch of images at the bottom. This one doesn't.

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>>26312488
Yep, the action of firing the Annihilator Beam's missile combo, the Sonic Boom, has enough impact to crack reality in a localized area. It's massively powerful, and only really, "slow-moving," when compared to the rest of her weaponry.

>>26309729
>There is NO comparison between Miss Aran and any single unit in 40K

Dumby

>>26312618
This is how I level 20 Artificer.

>>26309456
>Chzo
>Not Chozo
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>>26312552
Seriously? I'd only ever heard that it was marketing, so it would sell better than other metroid games had in Japan.

If that's the real reason, then Sakamoto's just a dick, and shouldn't be let near any video game antagonist ever again.

>>26312598
Actually, it might be better to put it on Bjorn's page as well.

>>26312682
>antagonist
Meant to type protagonist. My hands are stupid right now.

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>mfw /tg/ morphs Samus from not only into a sleazy womanizing lesbian that dodges child-support but also a pack-rat of a 40k Primarch capable of stealing entire planets worth of technology
>mfw steals more than fucking Space PIRATES

I love you, /tg/.

Welp, seems like we got archived with the most generic name ever.
This will definitely lead to shitheads downvoting us.

>>26312645
I thought Samus was more of a Ranger then a artificer. I don't think she even has the rudimentary knowledge to repair her suit, it repairs itself.

>>26312708
Don't forget that it also fits right into 40k canon.

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>>26312598
I have much knowledge of the site, or many wikis, but I think you can embed them using the editing function

>>26312715
She designs her space ships...

Hey, wait. Does that mean she's a gearhead? Is that why she always gets a new ship? Vanity?
It would explain the paint jobs. The ship in Fusion was government mandated and thus butt ugly.

>>26312733
Thanks, captain obvious.
I was hoping that someone knew how to do it exactly. I only ever did small edits on wikis (like putting the writefaggotry on Bjorns page).

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>>26312680
That's an interesting point, though:

Who would fare better? The Prince, or a Space Marine?

Original Prince is best Prince, pic related.

>>26312724
Even the womanizing part?

>>26312488
So Samus is literally firing holes into reality?
Well this fits well into my explaination why Primarch!Samus is immune to Warpfuckery, the Chozo spiced her with their Psychic-eating Metroids, which in a Warhammer Universe were their own little "Fuck you" to Tzeentch.

>>26312759
my apologies, I'm being a dumbfuck and my reading comprehension has taken a blow.

incidentally, I've just noticed this thread has been archived.

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>>26312794
Her ability to throw anomalies at target isn't what protects her from hostile environments, but it does give Samus the edge against the inhabitants.

>>26312794
Her protection against the warp would come from the dark/light suit.
The dark suit is made from evil, thus allowing her to become resistant to the evil energies in the evil parallel world. The light suit is made from good and makes her immune against the evil energies.
But keep in mind that this was Luminoth tech and used one of the light thingies as power source. Stealing them would royally fuck with the Luminoth.
And her weaponry at the time ran off light/dark energies collected from fallen enemies.

>>26312789
That one is retarded, in my opinion.

This has been done before and Samus loses. Next you There isn't any real reliable info on Samus. Sure you have bits from here and there but a lot of it is super contradictory. Also you fanwank the levels of her enemies. Next you guys will say that she can beat Dr. Who, Necrons, or the Culture.

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>>26312903
Light Suit is Best Suit.

>>26312958
>Necrons
I bet she raided a tomb world or two.
I wonder what her equipment would look like afterwards.

>>26313006
She raided them while they were asleep, then pulled an Aran special on them

I.E - blew it to fuck, initially while she was still on it

>>26308978
But Ike did kill a God, the why of it is immaterial.

>>26312903
Eh, I like my explanation better, since it ties the Chozo into the 40K-verse AND the Metroids give the Emperor extra reason to "accidentally" extinct them.

Fucking over the Luminoth just to keep Chaos out of her head strikes me as out of character for the Girl Hunter raised by Xeno...

>>26310602
Er... Space Marine Chapters are one of the few agencies allowed to authorize Exterminatus.

>>26313040
I was talking about the canonically showcased situation in MP2.
Another precedent might be MP3, where she showed insane willpower against corruption and MP1 where she fought against Chozo ghosts.
But the Ing were capable of possessing her in MP2. Only the energy transfer device made her immune.

What a terrible fucking thread.

>>26312958
Go home /v/!

>>26313045
Yes, and how many times to their strike teams make it off world JUST as it gets hit...

...Never mind that Exterminatus just glasses the surface of a world...

>>26312958
Uh. I've been here for like, 6 of these threads. At least. Samus has never come out as the loser. The worst she's ever done is when pitted against entire regiments, or if she's put at complete disadvantage by being surprised point-blank. Even then she's a contender.

Samus is equal parts Space Marine and Final Fantasy protagonist in power scale. A 1-on-1 Samus vs Space Marine fight, given all their potential power and equipment and assuming no special circumstances such as a surprise attack, always goes to her.

And yes, she could kill The Doctor easily, if she had to. His continued success depends on his enemies being blithering idiots with ignorable firepower, by her standards. And he was killed by a rather paltry energy shot once, from what amounted to a laser pistol. The Necrons are basically what she fights against in canon material, tech and power-wise, and she does just fine there.

>>26313082
Pretty much all the time?
Also, Two-stage cyclonic torpedoes, that time the Space Sharks blew a world into little tiny bits by sabotaging its reactor cores, et cetera.

>>26313083
Except for all the times she's had her ass kicked in cutscenes by mooks.
Kinda puts a damper on the whole faggotarded "primarch" thing.

>>26313083
Tech-wise, she is BACKED by the Necrons. But considering her most dangerous enemies were created by the Chozo, you are not wrong...