>>26254147
Reporting in.

>Breading

>>26254165
Laying clutches is the queen's job.

>>26254147
Lets go with:
>Make the queen do her job
>Spy on our "neighbours" find out what exactly they are
>Determine how berries influence combat performance
>Hunters hunt

I believe we still have an open muataion? If that is the case I would go with camourflage.

>>26254174
Did you make that civ picture yourself? I can't recall ever seeing it before.

>>26254147
The swarm must evolve. I suggest paralytic poison, healing, before creating a brain bug. Starship Trooper reference.

How long til new players?

>>26254203
Oh those disgusting scenes of crawling into peoples' mouthes.

>>26254216
Come in play with us?

>>26254202
I must've saved it from another Civ thread. They're right next to each other with the same names lol

>>26254216
>How long til new players?
Now

>>26254186

Everyone in agreement with this?


Also: 1 vote camo
1 vote neurotoxin (paralytic poison)

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>I wonder what /tg/ is up to
>Insect Civ

If no other votes, I will start writing in 5 minutes.

I vote camouflage.

>>26254294
Vote for camo

>>26254299
You. I like you.

>>26254304
I like you too.

What kind of camo anyway?

That's another vote camo. I'll give people a minute or two to cast their votes and go.

>>26254344
I'm guessing camo like in chameleon.

>>26254299
>>26254304
>>26254305

I guess that i will also vote for Camo.

Long term plans:
>Better soldier caste
>more stable castes
>kill all trolls and steal their shiny stuff
>agriculture (probably with fungi and maybe those evil berries)
>more egg layers
>diplomacy/merchant caste

>>26254355
Last post before writing:


Your larva hatch. They have a strange scent to them. When they are startled, they assume the color of a rock. Our holy matron senses that the smell that they give off is not that of a pheromone, but a chemical they secrete when they change their color.

The lays 31 more eggs this time to incubate (hatch into larva in 3 turns. Grow in 1 turn)

Your workers dig deeper ... are they drunk? They're starting to dig separate rooms for themselves. some of them are slacking off too.

The warriors attempt to spar while under the effects of the berries . Their attacks cut deeper.

The hunters go fishing this time. It's chilly but they manage to get a good haul.

Your scouts get close to the lights this time ... too close. They're spotted, but they can see the neighbors. They're massive with many warts and sharp teeth. There are two of them. One of them is holding the pheromone totem and waving it around like a dance. The neighbors seem indifferent to your scouts.

>>26254553
>Civ: Insects
>Gov: Theocratic monarchy
>Location: Cliff face
>Mutations: Mining Mandible, wings and Arolia
>Breading: Queen lays the eggs

>Pop: The Holy Queen, 10 attend-ants caste, 15 hunters ,40 workers, 10 chameleon bugs (casteless), 31 eggs
Building: Deep Burrows, Queen's room + Shiny , Larva Room
Food: Scavenged meat, Elk, Fish ("fishing hurts the health of the hunters, can't do it every turn), eggs (hunters can get hurt doing this), berries

Conditions:
The cliffs are cold and harsh, but everyone is well sheltered
Food is feeding everyone.
Caste based on what do most, or what the queen tells you are.
The Queens chamber is very shiny
Some unnatural hide accidentally fell on the hunters while fishing, cold at first but seems to keep him warm once it dries
Bugs can smell other bugs.
Pheromone scent totems.

>>26254459
You're lucky that I rolled really well with those berries. I will roll separately for the queen to see if it affects breeding.

Go see what they're using their separate rooms for. I wouldn't mind a break room, but if they're hoarding or stealing there should be consequences.

Establishing a work schedule would also be a good idea.

>>26254583
Now for the paralytic, then launching spines, then acid, then disorienting smells, then sonic screeches, then stealth flight, then better eyesight,

>>26254583
>Hunt for huntings
>Let the workers create statues of our queen until we find something better for them to do
>Let our hunters hunt some more

I don't think we need to try and make contact with the trolls, they don't seem anything above tribal anyway and they sure wont come climbing the mountain.

>>26254620
That's planning a bit far ahead non?

>>26254620
>all those combat evolutions

Whoa, there. I agree we need better soldiers, but let's not forget we need to research stuff like infestation or a better hive mind.

I think acid would be a good combat evolution. Trolls have hard skin and I doubt biting or stinging would work very well.

>>26254633
Always have a plan.

>>26254673
>>26254676
Seeing how our drones seem to develop more of an individual lifestyle and slacking off I would agree with establishing some kind of psychic hivemind to keep them under control.

We wouldn't want this to turn into a real civilization now would we?

>>26254697
I agree evolve a hive mind.

>>26254697
I've been thinking about that and I believe that a small amount of individuality would be a good thing. Gives them initiative and unique ideas. However, when the Queen says jump, everyone says "how high?"

>>26254697
I told you things start to get weird if they aren't given directive They're told to dig deeper. They're not told how or what to dig so they really don't know what they're doing down there.

Also where do you guys want our 10 chameleon bugs going? Will they be a caste of their own?

>>26254727
The chameleons would be scouts/hunters, right? This should be the point where we start dividing the hunters from the soldiers.

>>26254727
I guess they will make a scout caste.

Also send them to spy even more on those Trolls.

>trolls regenerate non-burned or non-dissolved wounds

Yeah, we need that acid.

>>26254761
Bugs and fire... imagine the terror. We would be gods to other insects!

Though I'm kinda doubting that we can evolve a fire odem.

>>26254697
Either a hivemind or a strengthened pheremone system like real bugs so that it cannot be interfered with by magic users

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I missed the end of the thread last night, but at least I caught this one. I praised our majestic Queen so long and hard that I exhausted myself.

Long may she reign!

>>26254771
>rengthened pheremone system like real bugs so that it cannot be interfered with by magic users

You can. Torchbugs incoming

>>26254798
Not sure why that copied the wrong post

>>26254798
...
We can fly.
We have camo.
We can stick to surfaces.
And we breathe fire.
Fear us!

We are like superdragons in bug form.

Or will be speaking in future terms.

>>26254826
We also like gold.

So I've got hunters hunting, workers making statues, scouts watching trolls, warriors unassigned, and chameleon bugs joining the scout caste 100%

Oh man I'm late.

>>26254833
Warriors should be establishing order.

>>26254833
everyone in agreement with this?

>>26254839
No problem, welcome back.

>>26254843
Seconded.

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>>26254165

The baking caste is a vital part of every colony, you know.

>>26254843
Ok then, writing it up.

>>26254851
Sounds good to me

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>>26254771
>>26254761
The hive should put work into tankers
They tend to fuck shit up and can dig holes quite fast while out of combat

>>26254864
[Spoiler]Bugs are way superior to humans in the tabletop game[/spoiler]

But considering the thread, I was more thinking about a quick flying force of shocktroopers to burn stuff down since until now we are human size.

I'm not sure, does size difference require an additional mutation? Cause I would think so.

>>26254864
I completely agree. We should still do some digging (dat stone surplus is gonna make us mad money one of these days), but having a large Tanker to support both workers and soldiers is exactly the role the acid evolution should be placed into.

Artillery and bulldozers, rolled into one.

>>26254884
I fucked up.

>>26254884
I'm one of the seven guys to actually play the tabletop and I know, bugs fucking wreck
The only reason humanity has a chance is because of stable spacetravel

>>26254583
Your Chameleons join the scouting caste and work in the day observing the trolls while the others work at night. The trolls throw rocks at elk and other animals to catch them. They clean themselves by bathing in the river while trying to catch fish. They're a little clumsy though. They uproot pheromone totems and add them to the collection. One of the chameleons was mistaken for a rock and hurled at a buck. He is in critical condition. The rest of your scouts hurried back home with him to get him out of the cold. He's oozing badly.

Your workers attempt to shape the rocks into statues for our holy matron. They aren't very good and cannot make detailed statues. Our queen is displeased and ate a few of the workers for their insolence. The warriors joined in the feast. 5 workers are killed.

The hunters discover that some larger animals have a fear of heights. This was discovered when one of your hunters tried to chase a mountain goat into a ditch. The goat stopped at a cliff face and out hunter ran right into the goat, knocking it off the cliff.

>>26254986
>Civ: Insects
>Gov: Theocratic monarchy
>Location: Cliff face
>Mutations: Mining Mandible, wings and Arolia
>Breading: Queen lays the eggs

>Pop: The Holy Queen, 10 attend-ants caste, 15 hunters ,40 workers, 10 master scouts, 31 eggs
Building: Deep Burrows, Queen's room + Shiny , Larva Room
Food: Scavenged meat, Elk, Fish ("fishing hurts the health of the hunters, can't do it every turn), eggs (hunters can get hurt doing this), berries

Conditions:
The cliffs are cold and harsh, but everyone is well sheltered
Food is feeding everyone.
Caste based on what do most, or what the queen tells you are.
The Queens chamber is very shiny
Some unnatural hide accidentally fell on the hunters while fishing, cold at first but seems to keep him warm once it dries
Bugs can smell other bugs.
Pheromone scent totems.

>>26255010
Let's try to get them to eat some berries and see the effect, if they get drunk we can use it to kill them in their sleep.

How many are there in total? Until know I've only heard about two.

>>26254986
The trolls are clearly a threat. We should plan for inevitable territory conflicts.

>>26254986
Lay eggs, produce more warriors.
We need to kill these trolls dead. Acid is next evolution.

>>26255028
We've already eaten the berries. Maybe we could make stone pots and leave the berries in there for a while. That might do something.

We're becoming quite unusual insects. We hoard gold, will pretty soon be drinking gin out of flask, but are remaining true to the hive mind. I like it. A road less traveled.

>>26255032
Which is why we invest in more warriors and a tanker

>>26254915
size difference is a mutation. Each mutation will hold steadfast for the next clutch and so on. If you mutate into giant or diminutive size, the queen can pick from a range of sizes and which caste to breed. All bugs bred now will have wings (weak), pheromones, and digging mandibles + whatever mutation (provided that it doesn't cancel other mutations out.

>>26255068
If we have evidence that these trolls enjoy the berries, it might serve us to use them as bait for ambushes. This would no doubt cut down on losses of valuable skilled warriors.

>>26255068
I ment try to feed it to the trolls so we will be able to kill them when they are unable to defend themselves. A trojan horse of sorts if you want to name it like that. It will hopefully give us the edge we need.

>>26254986
>>26255010
If the fleshy creatures disrespect the creations of the hive, then they disrespect the Queen more than any malformed statue! They need to be made to pay for their insult to Her divinity.

I support any method of destroying the trolls. Perhaps find a way to split them apart to more easily deal with?

Glory to Her children!

>>26255095
>>26255089
>ambush with the bait being the totem and berries

I support this, but I don't think our warriors are ready. The trolls' wounds would just regenerate.

>>26255109
I would rather wait and see the effects. If it actually makes them drunk we could have our scouts and warriors lingering around and breaking open their heads with their mandibles.

Let's be honest, how hard can their heads be?

But still you are right, I would like to avoid open confrontation as much as possible.

>>26255028
There are two trolls, but I can assure you that they will wreck anyone who touches them right now. They are better fighters and the regeneration factor pack a kick.

>>26255109
I assume that's why we are working to develop acid. A potent enough mixture would prevent them from healing quickly enough. It's my opinion that we need acid artillery, as well as infantry that can match the troll's strength with durability.

Anyway let's get the eat and adapt mutation before we finally take them out, that regenerative factor of theirs will surely come in handy later on.

So, what do you guys do this turn?

>>26255010
Does the queen have all the mutations?

>>26255205
Develop Acid

>>26255205
Focus on egg laying and breeding more soldiers. A lot of taking care of the offspring and making sure they grow up strong.

>>26255205
>Hunters hunt as always
>Have the workers improve the overall looks of our hive
>Have some of the scouts look beyond the troll area if they can find anything else
>Breed more soldiers

>>26255225
Develop acid glands

>>26255208
You have to take a mutation for that in which the hive will be able to adapt all of the mutations of future clutches

>>26255205
In addition to all the other good ideas mentioned before, I also propose a history chamber be planned. Shiny things can be used to decorate it and the workers can create a timeline tribute to the founding of the hive by the holy Queen. If something glorious happens in Her name (like slaying the fleshy trolls) then it can be added to the chamber's walls.

Let any who walk the tunnels of the hive know Her history and Her greatness.

>>26255245
Future children must learn from our story

>>26255245
Let's be honest we are doing this to impress intruders.
But I like it.

>captcha necessary

>>26255245
>history chamber
>fill with stone tablets

I agree, but I think the GM is hinting that we need better hands or mandibles. Whatever.
Until we get better "hands," we will continue to make terrible carvings of our Holy Queen and be barely able to plant a stick in the ground.

But we need acid first.

>>26255275
Insect girls excitedly showing visitors the history of her hive

>>26255225
>>26255245
>>26255272

If looks liek this is what we're doing. I'll start writing in a sec. (grabbing a drink)

>>26255277
In that case we should capture fleshy creatures that are weaker than the trolls and force them to carve for us until we evolve a way to capture the beauty of our Goddess Queen in pure hive form.

>>26255290
Completely inappropriate!
We are going to make this happen.

>>26255300
The mutation that allows you to have all the mutations that come after you in a cast would be helpful. I vote that next. Less work for the Queen

>>26255334
We're god damned insects, why do we need history?

>>26255334
Don't get Antonymous all excited.

>>26255322
Enslaving the trolls is an acceptable option.

>>26255350
Because we aren't as stupid as most insects and have imperfect memories. We're not like the baser creatures which can barely find their way out of a paper bag, but we do have some culture within our hive mind.

>>26255350
So people will actually feel bad about it once they burn us to the ground. They will realize that from the beginning we were nothing but a civilized society looking for love and existence. Struggling to find our place in the world we were rejected and hunted down.

That or we show it to our slaves after we took over the entire world.

>>26255350
Not history. Its the I get all the upgrades for my caste even after I'm born. The way it is now you have to be born with the mutation. We are working for the eating adaptation. You are what you eat. And if you eat trolls with this you get regen.

>>26255388
>you are what you eat
Is this true or do we need a mutation for it?

>>26255393
Pretty sure we need a mutation for that.

>>26255350
Imagine it.

After sacrifices have been captured and cleaned, they can be shown the entire history of the hive. From Her glorious founding in the mountains to Her expansion and conquests.

They will know the entire story and why they are given the blessing of being fed to the holy Queen as living meals to further the broods.

>>26255358
Too late. He already has my support, the Queen must live a life of leisure and luxury befitting a goddess.

>>26255393
We need that eating mutation

We also need the update mutation

>>26255439
>history
The early Babylonians developed writing to manage their resources. Our little library would be much the same, focused on what we've gathered and eaten as well as notable events.

>the Holy Queen
I agree her holiness should live an easy life, but her ultimate duty is to command and that means she must be wise, not intoxicated.

>>26255485
>we need X mutation
Stop doing this. We get mutations at a set rate. That's the strength and weakness of the Insect race. We just have to be patient.

But eventually we'd probably have a gene-weaver caste that does faster mutations. Or whatever. I think the mutation mechanic needs some work.

>>26255010
By holy decree of our dear matron, the workers begin busily carving out a tunnel on an incline down the mountain. Along the walls they carve depictions of the cold clifftop where our brethren froze until we built the tunnels. The hunters were glorified as they came up with fishing (the depictions were a little crude but everyone was like "close enough". They marked down the discovery of the shinies and the room of the queen. Each evolution was depicted beautify and shows the ascension of our master race into holiness and glory of the hive. Even the berries had their place on the wall. The only thing they could not complete was the dep[iction of the trolls because they have never seen them first hand.

Our mighty soldiers pose and help judge the work of the working caste.

The hunters learn how to differentiate different footprints. They can now track and hunt goats, deer, elk, and other animals more effectively. Food is bountiful today.

The queen's eggs hatch into larva. Everyone is excited to see how they awaken.

Your scouts work their way further past the troll huts. They find a pack of wolves running around. Your scouts go into camouflage mode as a wolf comes and sniffs it. The scout doesn't break cover as the wolf pees all over the unfortunate bug. The others can't sense his pheromones afterwards. He is covered in a horrid stench. He startles the whole hive when he comes back. Nobody recognizes him besides the other scouts who were there.

>>26255559
>master race
Hold it right there!

Also, keep scouting beyond the troll territory. And get our queen a doggy pet.

>>26255559
>>Civ: Insects
>>Gov: Theocratic monarchy
>>Location: Cliff face
>>Mutations: Mining Mandible, wings and Arolia, Chameleon secretion
>>Breading: Queen lays the eggs
>>Pop: The Holy Queen, 10 attend-ants caste, 15 hunters ,35 workers, 10 master scouts, 31 eggs
>Building: Deep Burrows, Queen's room + Shiny , Larva Room, Crude statues, Hall of History
>Food: Scavenged meat, Elk, Fish ("fishing hurts the health of the hunters, can't do it every turn), eggs (hunters can get hurt doing this), berries
>Conditions:
>The cliffs are cold and harsh, but everyone is well sheltered
>Food is feeding everyone.
>Caste based on what do most, or what the queen tells you are.
>The Queens chamber is very shiny
>Some unnatural hide accidentally fell on the hunters while fishing, cold at first but seems to keep him warm once it dries
>Bugs can smell other bugs.
>Pheromone scent totems.
>Wolves south of Trolls. Scent of one of us altered.

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>>26255485
This. All other civs get upgrades to their tech on an almost daily-basis, we need to catch up.

I suppose it should be the eating mutation and then the update mutation, right?

On another note, I realized we don't have a celestial race in the OP. How would /tg/ react to a race ruled by an actual, newborn god that starts slightly weak but can eventually summon tornados made out of lightning and command armies of angels and converts?

>>26255585
Oops those eggs are larva. Vote on next evolution as well as percentage of larva-caste

>>26255586
This does not belong here. Respectfully: Go make your own thread.

>>26255586
There are ways for civ threads to become like that. I see it oftentimes with demons and lizardfolk

>>26255594
Lot's of soldiers. A few acid tankers. Evolution obviously being acid.

>>26255612
Actually, It's been done before but that was with a lot of mutations.

>>26255585
Let the scout reapply his pheromones. I doubt there's much need for us to experiment with something that only proves detrimental to our teamwork.

>>26255594
Eating evolution.

>>26255639
In that case I apologize. It seemed to be as he was attempting a derail.

I will go with Eat and Adapt since killing the Trolls without being able to absorb their powers holds no benefit for us.

>>26255635
>>26255586
1 vote: acid
1 vote: evolutionary meal

>eat and adapt
It's a good mutation, but the trolls regeneration means acid takes priority.

>>26255657
>I will go with Eat and Adapt since killing the Trolls without being able to absorb their powers holds no benefit for us.

2 votes eat and adapt

>>26255669
I vote acid

>>26255668
I will vote for acid next time, we would need to wait until we have both no matter what so we might as well hope that in the 4 turns that we wait and plan our attack we eat something interesting.

>>26255683
2 votes eat and adapt
2 votes acid

>>26255659
Eat and adapt

>>26255559
>>26255585
The focus should be on breeding warriors and developing acid so the heretical fleshies can be fought.

We should strike as quickly as possible so they cannot endanger Her holy hive. Maybe leave a few to be consumed later when eating adaptation is available.

>>26255594
6 Acid Tankers.
5 Hunters.
20 Workers.

Let's increase our production further to strengthen our base. The trolls are the only threat right now, and they should be low on numbers so 6 tankers with lots of acids ranged acid mixed with our superrior mountain defenses should keep them at bay. That is, if they even attack in the first place.

Once we have a good economy going, we can start creating soldiers.

I don't understand why everyone is treating the Trolls as an immediate threat. They have seen us and yet they haven't attacked. Also they don't seem like they would climb our cliff anytime soon.

But maybe that's just my side of things.

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>>26255559
>He is covered in a horrid stench.

I guess we just discovered a new deodorant.

>>26255747
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

>>26255707
>>26255718

Tied the vote again. 10/10 if trolling.

OK so diggers extend the hall of history, warriors supervise, hunters hunt, scouts find a way to get their buddy his scent back. That's what I have so far.

food lecitc

>>26255762
Do we really expect their strength to double and is it worth giving up on regeneration?

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>>26255756
These puns are getting out of hand. They're ant-agonizing the Queen!

>>26255778
Give us more time.

>>26255778
>tie vote

Flip a coin, then.

>>26255778
If it stays tied, I will make a roll on it in a few minutes.

>>26255730
We were already setting that aside for warriors and tankers, but I will take that into consideration for later.

>>26255781
>>26255747
They vandalized things of the hive. The hive comes from the Queen. Therefore, they vandalized the Queen! That's heresy.

They should be punished and consumed for their blasphemous actions against our most divine monarch, in addition to whatever "legitimate" threat they pose.

>>26255820
Just roll now.

>>26255818
1 = Eat and Adapt
2 = Acid

>>26255827
But imagine the safety the queen would gain by adapting regeneration! Do you not want her to live forever?! Do you not wish for her resistance to disease and failiure of her imperfect underlings?!

You dare call me a heretic, but what is it you are scheming?!

>>26255781
It depends. Acid is far from being a simple defensive measure. Aside from being an effective troll weapon, or just a weapon in general, it would also make it easier to break through the stone walls, speeding up construction, and it would also make it possible to digest food faster, increasing the hive's collective metabolism. It would speed things up, essentially.

The Eat and Evolve is, obviously, more useful in the long run, would have no real immediate advantage until the the next batch of eggs hatch and we eat a lot of animals. And we don't even have second generation eggs yet.

Rolled 2

>>26255840

>>26255854
What have we been trying to build in the past 5 turns? We have sturggled to find work for them no matter what.

Digesting faster is currently of no use to us either.

But it doesn't matter since we got acid anyway.

>>26255854
This nigga knows. We should do eat and evolve next, though. It is something you want to do early on. If the locals weren't trolls, acid wouldn't be so necessary.

>>26255895
We already agreed to do Eat and Evolve next, I think

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>>26255880
Let's change that then. Next turn, let's halt the hall of history and start digging through the harder bed rock using our newfound acid to create even more tunnels for faster and safer transportation. Like pic related.

>>26256005
Oh yeah, Black is the current hive.

Red is the proposed tunnel routes.

We could even surprise everyone bu bursting from the ground to say hi.

>>26255847
Well...!

If our beloved goddess is not already a perfect immortal deity, then why do I devote my every ounce of existence to worshiping her?!

Your threats are hypothetical, but the threats to her holy prestige are already real after the fleshies stole a totem!

Besides, it seems acid won. Our holy Queen has sided with us righteous. Death to the heretical fleshies.

>>26256022
Let's not just rush em until we got eat and adapt, alright?

Just my opinion.

Rolled 1

>>26255585
Your larva grow. There is something terribly wrong with the clutch. They were bred to have strong acid but this isn't right at all! Our clutch's acid was too strong for their bodies and ended up dying. (rolled a 9 for mutation and a 1 for effect (bad stuff)). Half of the clutch died in infancy. Another few didn't survive adulthood. The ones that did survive don't seem to have any acid at all. Those die of starvation due to not being able to digest. It is a sad day for the hive.

The Hunters learn from the trolls to use rocks in their hunting technique. They drop them from the air on unsuspecting prey. They spend the day hunting rabbits this way.

The scouts attempt to reapply pheromones to their friend. Nothing happens besides toning the scent down a bit.

The warriors and workers build an effigy to their fallen brethren.

Howling can be heard in the distance.

The queen lays 47 eggs this time

>>26256046
I think that's a reasonable plan. We could spent the time until our next evolution creating a tunnel to the river, so that we can move troops and fishermen in secret.

Rolled 2

>>26256022
Our holy matron dies and is reborn as the new queen

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>>26256088

>>26256088
This is really bad.

>captain obvious to the rescue

>>26256088
Their sacrifice will not be forgotten

>>26256022
That look I'm giving you in this very moment.

>>26256088
>>Civ: Insects
>>Gov: Theocratic monarchy
>>Location: Cliff face
>>Mutations: Mining Mandible, wings and Arolia, Chameleon secretion
>>Breading: Queen lays the eggs
>>Pop: The Holy Queen, 10 attend-ants caste, 15 hunters ,35 workers, 10 master scouts, 47 eggs
>Building: Deep Burrows, Queen's room + Shiny , Larva Room, Crude statues, Hall of History, Effigy to the fallen
>Food: Scavenged meat, Elk, Fish ("fishing hurts the health of the hunters, can't do it every turn), eggs (hunters can get hurt doing this), berries, Rabbits
>Conditions:
>The cliffs are cold and harsh, but everyone is well sheltered
>Food is feeding everyone.
>Caste based on what do most, or what the queen tells you are.
>The Queens chamber is very shiny
>Some unnatural hide accidentally fell on the hunters while fishing, cold at first but seems to keep him warm once it dries
>Bugs can smell other bugs.
>Pheromone scent totems.
>Wolves south of Trolls. Scent of one of us altered.
> New clutch died horrible death

Alright, acid didn't work out and our agreement to do eat and evolve is still valid.

Maybe we could figure out fire. Let's try that. The trolls have fire, right? Let's steal it.

Yeah, that was a really bad mutation to fail on.

>>26256153
Does our second attempt get a +1. Have we learned from our failure?

>>26256172
What would a failure on eat and evolve do? Obviously this is meta knowledge

>>26256168
The evolution would be fire glands. It will take another mutation to improve them enough to melt stone.

>>26256088
Oh, for fuck's sake OP.

I guess we need harder exoskeletons then. Evolve those when possible.

Have the warriors on alert. Those howls could be dangerous. The workers should expand the hive some more, just for size, we'll work their uses later. The scouts should definitely check out the source of the howls, while another smaller number spies on the trolls.

>>26256205
No, I mean instead of wasting an evolution, we get fire the traditional way. By stealing it from someone who already has it and feeding the fire so that it doesn't go out.

>>26256168
We did agree to do Eat next. But we should stick with acid, it's much easier to manage than fire, despite our mistake.
>>26256208
No, we need stronger insides if anything.

>>26256196
It would choose a trait and make it non-mutable.
Positive mutation: negate a negative effect
Negarive Mutation: negate a positive effect

This might sound weird at first but... can we try to eat fire with the eat and evolve ability?

>>26256196
You eat the creatures, but the mutation goes out of control and ends with the creature growing claws in it's eyes and tumours on it's joints. And then it dies of hunger.

>>26256135
It is clearly a divine message by our Queen to learn what comes of arguing and indecisiveness. She wants us to come together in the sacrifice of our brethren to make more united choices.

Long may her holy wisdom guide us!

As for the howling, it must be identified and prepared for. The Queen's safety is of the utmost importance. Let not a single fleshy being dare intrude into her chosen lands.

>>26256222
Strong insides will negate negative effects of fire and acid as well as improve intestinal fortitude, but failure to do those will make for some weak bugs

>>26256247
Well, as fire is not organic, I think it will just burn.
>>26256279
What are the odds of us failing that hard twice in a row? And I still say we form tough, brute warriors and less tough, acid artillery.

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>>26256222
Wait, are we planning on shooting the acid from inside our bodies or from organic, kitin-based pumps outside our bodies?

I was thinking the acid would work more like this.

>>26256315
I was thinking of spitting it or acid saliva but who knows, it failed hard.

>>26256315
I figured we'd have an acid gland, and be able to spit it at our foes. Having them internally also makes it so enemies can't just pop them.

>>26256331
Well, if we make it an external acid pump that works by moving the kitin durable kitin organs using the muscles, while at the same time keeping the acid stored away from the fleshy bits, we could make much safer acid creation.

If we make stronger exoskeleton we will get much higher defenses in general, and, if the external acid was to fail, the acid-resistant skeleton would protect everything except maybe the pump muscles, so we still get functional, tough bugs.

>>26256297
out of a d100
below 25 gets a chance of negative effect.
24-40 is opposite effect (not so bad outcome)
41-60 is relatively positive effect with random outcome (mixed effect)
61+ is true positive
90+ is chance super mutation (in case of fire make another roll to see if it can melt stone)

The roll I made for acid was a 9 and I made an adverse effect roll

>>26256378
Yeah but currently we are working on getting something to kill the Trolls with in the first place.
What you are suggesting would probably require 2 or 3 mutations.

>>26256378
In the case of acids and poisons and things of that nature I will make an extra roll to decide on how it is delivered. It could be pumped via muscle, it could be secreted like sweat, (in the case of poisons) it could be a noxious miasma.

>>26256434
Super mutations could range from anything to stronger versions to multiple ways of application.

>>26256434
>>26256423
Well, let's just get on with whatever. At the moment, it is the howls we should be worried about.

Do we get a +1 for having experienced such a failure?

>>26256385
What's happening in the tribe now. And can we start a fungus or mold farm. It helps food production and might be able to support the larva entirely.

So far mutations we are gunning for are:
*Acid Mutation- attack, metabolism, digging
*Update Mutation- new mutation gets added to everyone in a caste every time it comes along.
*Eating Evolution Mutation- you are what you eat.

And idea is getting our lazy workers to start inventing. We might even get that geneweaver cast out of the next batch. Could be an alternative or bonus to the update mutation.

Right now we only get a mutation every four turns. Might we explore hunt and experiment with technology. I remember bugs having great technology. Is it of the organic kind though. Because that's what we've been messing with the entire time

We should create an escape route for the Queen as well, in the event the howls pose a major threat to the hive.

>>26256510
Yeah. With gene-weavers and eat and evolve, we should start getting some bonuses to the mutation rolls.

>>26256510
It would be a good idea to develop some sort of long distance communication.

>>26256501
Not on a failure of that magnitude. I'll start writing stuff.

>>26256541
Or build her a new chamber deeper underground.

>>26256557
>>26256541
Why not both?

>>26256510
Mutations suck. They are way too slow, if anything, we should research how to steal technology and use those from other civilizations. That way, we get both Tech and Mutes.

>>26256575
>steal tech

Another new task for the human mimic caste! Already, they're useful for diplomacy, trading, assassination, spreading infestation, spying, and giving tours.

>>26256575
What if we gain a mutation that speeds up the cooldown and allows us to mutate very turn? Would it be reserved for the end-game?

>>26256597
Lets eat a human as soon as we got eat and adapt and hope for a 9 or 10.

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>>26256575
In order to use humanoid tech we need a bit of the humanoid form. Thumbs would be a great help. Must of the armor is for humanoid forms. Bug Monstergirls and monsterdudes are cool with me.

>>26256597
I hope creating mimics isn't heretical to the image of our royal creator...

>>26256575
But mutations can't be stolen back, and they don't require maintenance.

>>26256626
Our holy queen would never be so foolish as to create something that could be deemed ugly.

>>26256626
They have the spirit of the hive within them and find joy in serving the Queen. There is a bit of individuality to help fake human thought processes and simulate empathy, but for the most part they'd be like any other insect.

>>26256153
A scout sets out to steal fire from the trolls. He thinks he sees him leave camp. As he is getting the fire, a troll comes back to the camp. The scout goes into chameleon mode which scares the shit out of the troll because he camoed himself as a fire ... outside of the designated fire area. The troll runs away to get the other one and our scout comes back with the fire.

The workers work on building an escape route for our holy matron (rolled 97 for success). The workers build an escape hatch that is smooth and wet that can slide the queen out of danger in no time. Persuers don't fall into the slide, but rather a labyrinthine pit. Our workers must be master-craft escape artists.

Our scouts go out to investigate the howling and run into the wolves. The scouts are unsure of what to do. The wolves start peeing everywhere (including on some more of our brethren). The wolves follow the scouts all the way back to the hive.

The hunters come back with various assortments of animals.

>>26256621
I would shy away from becoming a race of monstergirls. We need a specialist caste for various reasons, but we shouldn't abandon our true nature just to fit in with everyone else.

Thumbed claws would be nice, though.

>>Civ: Insects
>>Gov: Theocratic monarchy
>>Location: Cliff face
>>Mutations: Mining Mandible, wings and Arolia, Chameleon secretion
>>Breading: Queen lays the eggs
>>Pop: The Holy Queen, 10 attend-ants caste, 15 hunters ,35 workers, 10 master scouts, 47 eggs
>Building: Deep Burrows, Queen's room + Shiny , Larva Room, Crude statues, Hall of History, Effigy to the fallen
>Food: Scavenged meat, Elk, Fish ("fishing hurts the health of the hunters, can't do it every turn), eggs (hunters can get hurt doing this), berries, Rabbits
>Conditions:
>The cliffs are cold and harsh, but everyone is well sheltered
>Food is feeding everyone.
>Caste based on what do most, or what the queen tells you are.
>The Queens chamber is very shiny
>Some unnatural hide accidentally fell on the hunters while fishing, cold at first but seems to keep him warm once it dries
>Bugs can smell other bugs.
>Pheromone scent totems.
>Wolves south of Trolls. Scent of scouts altered.
> New clutch died horrible death
> Wolves on your doorstep. Whole race uneasy.

>>26256706
At least we got doggy pets for the queen, still we should get rid of the stench.

>>26256706
If the wolves aren't a threat, it might benift us to form a bond with them somehow.

We need to evolve quickly, the trolls are growing more aware of us.

>>26256706
How many wolves?

>>26256601
You can mutate that next if you want. Just don't get the opposite effect :)

We need to feed the fire and make sure it doesn't go out. That should keep the wolves away from us and it's a backup defense against the trolls if they attack us early.

>>26256706
Beautiful. Our Queen's safety is all that I thrive for.

The wolf urine is a threat to the pheromone stability of the hive. They should be slaughtered and stored as food if they can't be used for something else.

Either way, they can't be allowed to leave. They might lead other creatures to the hive.

Do trolls burn on their own? Or du we have to continuously applay fire.

>>26256763
Or a bright beacon announcing our presence

>>26256785
I think it really just stops their wounds from regenerating.

>>26256763
Actually, that scout arrived later than the wolves. He and the hunters are probably standing outside starring at the pack right now lol. That also means that they cut off the escape route of the wolves. The warriors are the second closest considering the queen's room is close to the entrance.

>>26256785
They won't catch on fire, but it hurts them and stops regeneration. They also fear it to a degree.

>>26256802
Can we spray THEM with OUR pheromones for a change? Maybe they would accept that they are part of our pack.

>>26256755
Should we risk it all and attempt the faster mutation perk?

That way, we can get everything in a matter of turns.

>>26256832
Or it goes horribly wrong again and we may have to wait double the time.

>>26256822
We'd need to assert our dominance somehow. Most likely by pinning them and closing our mandables around their necks. Not too hard, but hard enough that they'll understand their place.

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>domesticate wolves
>later infest them and add them to the swarm

>>26256860
This will be our prime negotiator if we need to make threats... he scares me.

Let's show those wolves what kind of insects they are!

There are 9 wolves. I need a tally to see what we do with them.

Type 1 for domesticate
2 for destroy
3. for attempting to change their scent
4. Specify action

>>26256874
Yeah! And if they refuse to submit, we'll steal their puppies and raise them ourselves.

>>26256902
1 probably comes with 3 later on

>>26256860
This cerebrate agrees

>>26256902
1

Although simply making them our allies rather than full-blown domestication would be a success as well.

>>26256902
1

>>26256902
1

>>26256904
I am oddly fond of the idea to steal their childern...

>>26256904
Pups are south of the trolls and guarded. I would suggest hunters, scouts, and warriors for the whole affair.

>>26256932
Let's see how it plays out before we steal the pups.

>>26256932
We need to oust the Alphas for this plan to fully succeed.

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I need to go for a bit. Keep our Queen and colony safe, my brethren, I have faith in you.

>>26256902
2, but since I'm outnumbered and the acid proved what happens when we disagree before our holy Queen, I also support 1.

>>26256916
>>26256923
>>26256926
>>26256929
>>26256930

Well, that was more unanimous than I thought. Writing it up.

>>26256949
Later Anton.

>>26256949
Oh, don't feel that just because you're outnumbered your opinion is invalid.

>>26256739
By holy decree of our great matron, we are tasked with domesticating these animals into the hive. The wolves, seeing that they are surrounded begin to growl . (out of 4 rolls, 2 of them were 99 (big success!)). The hunters throw some of the meat down at the wolves who begin eating. The workers move to take some to the queen and one is bitten by the alpha. Our warriors put the alpha in his place and the feast begins. The wolves sniff at the rest of the hive and become familiar with it. Our workers get to digging out a den for the wolves and we cover them with our pheromones so that we can tell them apart.

The fire warms the hive a little bit. As it stands, it will only warm one room (decide which room). It also fills the room with a hickory smell.

esnaHel verse

>>Civ: Insects
>>Gov: Theocratic monarchy
>>Location: Cliff face
>>Mutations: Mining Mandible, wings and Arolia, Chameleon secretion
>>Breading: Queen lays the eggs
>>Pop: The Holy Queen, 10 attend-ants caste, 15 hunters ,35 workers, 10 master scouts, 47 eggs
>Building: Deep Burrows, Queen's room + Shiny , Larva Room, Crude statues, Hall of History, Effigy to the fallen
>Food: Scavenged meat, Elk, Fish ("fishing hurts the health of the hunters, can't do it every turn), eggs (hunters can get hurt doing this), berries, Rabbits
>Conditions:
>The cliffs are cold and harsh, but everyone is well sheltered
>Food is feeding everyone.
>Caste based on what do most, or what the queen tells you are.
>The Queens chamber is very shiny
>Some unnatural hide accidentally fell on the hunters while fishing, cold at first but seems to keep him warm once it dries
>Bugs can smell other bugs.
>Pheromone scent totems.
>Wolves south of Trolls. Scent of scouts altered.
> New clutch died horrible death
> Wolves seem tame
> Fire adds scent to the room and heat. Scent is very pleasurable.

>>26257060
I guess I have to go with the Queen chamber since Anton would kill us if we didn't.

Also, seeing how they adapted let's go get the pups.

>>26257078
Oh yeah eggs are larva now

Vote on mutation

>>26257060
Now we need to develop water squirting, so we can train them not to pee in the den.

>>26257088
Eat and Adapt, yes I did it again.

>>26257088
Beefy insides as you suggested earlier.

>>26257060
Let's keep the fire in an empty room for right now. I'd say the queen room, but we all know the risks in doing that. Fire right now is dangerous and uncontrollable.

>>26257088
Mutation time?
Maybe eat and evolve, but what about better graspers? That'd help with fire manipulation.
Or we could get hands with eat and evolve. So I guess that's my vote.

>>26257106
Seconded

>>26257114
This guy. Yeah nevermind my idea with the fire.

>>26257128
After we get better graspers, things like torches, cooking, pottery, and forges become possible. All of which we shall use to improve the queen's room and the gold within it.

>>26257078
Eat and Evolve, I guess.

If we get it, we should really get to eating something that will grant us better acid protection.

Since our scouts are already aware of the wolves and the trolls can we advance in another direction? Let's find something that would make easier prey for us than those Trolls.

(I'm not saying we wont kill and eat them, I'm just looking out for something to eat and adapt in the meantime.)

>>26257160
The only creatures with good graspers in the sorrounding area are the trolls.

So, what if we were to conduct a very stealthy, not intrusive at all raid during the night, to nibble at some of their fingers? They won't notice, they will just regenerate them by the time they wake up.

>>26257114
Also redrawing the caste a bit.

One of the scouts is a flame keeper who will work to keep the fire growing. 80+ in success improves the flame in some way. 20- = fire goes out or he burns someone.

Wolves are currently being indoctrinated into the caste system. We will need a hound master.

Workers are set to extend tunneling down to the river. Hunters set to hunting, Warriors set to hound keeping, and scouts looking for the wolve's den.

Is that right?

>>26257219
A good idea. We could try to pin them down to the ground, too. Or burn them, then eat them.

>>26257233
Yeah I support that.

Don't forget Eat and Evolve.

Rolled 36

>>26257219
They will find you and they will kill you

Looks like we're going for eat and adapt. Rolling the d100 on the site so you can see it. Will make other rolls secretly.

>>26257219
And we get their regeneration as well!

BRILLIANT!

>>26257260
Yeah... you rolling is appreciated and all... but... uh.... yeaaah.

Rolled 43

>>26257260
Well, that's set. You can negate negative effects of the creatures that you eat.

I also need the set of caste that the new clutch will be.

>>26257233
We should evolve something that can command the wolves with high pitched sound. That way they can be trained for stealth hunting and combat.

>>26257260
Opposite effect?

Does that mean we get the opposite trait from eating a monster or do we need to shit to get a trait?

>>26257281
Didn't turn out as bad as I thought it would.

Anyway I would assign them to the scouts and breed them along with camourflage so they will be able eat new things and report back.

>>26257281
Could you give an example? Let's just say we ate a rabbit. What would we get?

>>26257311
Imagine you get poisoned by a snake, you eat it and won't be poisoned anymore.

The way i understood it.

>>26257311
Nothing.

A better example would be eating a poisonous mushroom, with this, you negate the poison.

Also, could we also possibly negate the negative effects from having acid inside of our bodies?

Rolled 59

>>26257311
If you eat a troll, you can negate effects of stupidity and also grow resistance to fire and acid. It will also allow for sleek skin.

This evolution is actually a queen evolution. These effects will show up in future clutches.

>>26257355
So if we eat humans we will be able to resist swords and projectiles?

>>26257281
Really need those gene-weeavers. Test out then slaughter this batch. Improve the general defenses of the hive. Explore, Dig and explore. Maybe we can push our none organic technology. Need fingers. Darn it. This keeps coming back to evolution.

>>26257375
No, we might get a resistance to our own awkwardness when it comes to diplomacy.

>>26257379
I'm beginning to think they really are necessary. Evolution right now is a bitch.

Agree with your general plan. Mutation didn't really work twice in a row, so we need to start building defenses. Maybe have a firepit outside. And, speaking of the fire, we'll have to start harvasting wood.

>>26257412
We are becoming less insect by the minute. I remember the good old days when we were still clinging to standing in ice water and freazing to death trying to catch some fish...

But anyway, technology it is then. I guess we won't have much to gain from the Trolls but maybe our scouts find something more useful.

>>26257078
The larva hatch into regular ones of our kind. 47 (somewhat casteless (flying, mandibles, camoflage)) They will need to be divvied up to perform tasks.

The workers dig down but don't get very far. The rocks might be getting harder the further they go down.

The hunters try fishing but catch nothing.

The scouts wash off their wolf induced scent by trudging through a river. They don't find the wolf den yet though.

>>26257456
>Keep trying to find the Wolf Den
>Hunt more efficiently

We could expand the tunnel system where it's easier to dig, but let's be honest, hard rock always promises shiny things.

>>26257456
Time to nibble on some trolls and see what happens!

Caste division:
10 wood harvesters
5 firekeepers
2 nursery attendants
10 scouts
20 soldiers

>>26257484
Increase the brainpower of our hive. We aren't likely to develop magic or ki but bugs are very likely to develop psionics, or own funky strange limited but powerful magic, but that's organic tech.

>>26257526
We are outright incapable of magic.

>>Civ: Insects
>>Gov: Theocratic monarchy
>>Location: Cliff face
>>Mutations: Mining Mandible, wings and Arolia, Chameleon secretion, Eat and Adapt (queen)
>>Breading: Queen lays the eggs
>>Pop: The Holy Queen, 10 attend-ants caste, 15 hunters ,35 workers, 10 master scouts, 47 unassigned
>Building: Deep Burrows, Queen's room + Shiny , Larva Room, Crude statues, Hall of History, Effigy to the fallen, Wolf pen, road to waterway (partial)
>Food: Scavenged meat, Elk, Fish ("fishing hurts the health of the hunters, can't do it every turn), eggs (hunters can get hurt doing this), berries, Rabbits
>Conditions:
>The cliffs are cold and harsh, but everyone is well sheltered
>STARVATION hive weekend
>Caste based on what do most, or what the queen tells you are.
>The Queens chamber is very shiny
>Some unnatural hide accidentally fell on the hunters while fishing, cold at first but seems to keep him warm once it dries
>Bugs can smell other bugs.
>Pheromone scent totems.
>Wolves south of Trolls.
> Wolves seem tame
> Fire adds scent to the room and heat. Scent is very pleasurable.

>>26257538
>STARVATION hive weekend

HUNT

>>26257509
all in favor?

Gentlebugs, I believe we are ready to ambush the Trolls.

If you disagree just tell, but I think things won't change anytime soon. So as soon as we have enough food to use our hunters as soldiers for a day I would say we ambush the Trolls at night with our newfound power of fire.

>>26257554
Good choice. How many of the 47 will become hunters?

>>26257571
Eating the trolls will count as food for the colony

>>26257574
20.
Then we have 15 wood harvesters, 10 firekeepers and 2 nursery attendants.

>>26257574
Err... I guess 17... we assign a few workers to look at the fire and keep it going. They don't have much to do right now.

>>26257592
You can also try to mutate eat and adapt again

>>26257602
Let's give it a shot before we go in guys?

Also, should I be archiving this soon? I think we're getting close to the post limit.

>>26257642
Archive it now and link us to the new thread.

>>26257642
Don't do that until we get to page 9. /tg/ is a slower board.

>>26257660
Archive success. Creating new thread

>>26257692
>>26257713

We need a shitload of adaptions and infrastructure