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You are Princess Lydia Tannhäuser Von Cygnus Gates the third, second in line of succession to the throne, duchess of Tannhäuser, and executive director of the Royal Rocketry Corps of Midland.

Right now your island base is being hit by the yearly storms. Fortunately you managed to launch your lunar probe, Selene 01, and evacuate the island just in the nick of time. Currently you are at the newly Christened Cygnus radio teliscope at Stonefield, midland's oldest and holiest astrological observatory.

The stars seem to be against you right now however, because you have lost contact with the probe! The signal just sort of trailed off! You have only a few hours to re-establish contact before the probe is lost forever!

>Yes the not so hidden roll last thread was indeed a boom, the teliscope loses two points of reliability in both categories and is now at 13/15 after the last round of improvement.

It is the end of turn 16, RnD points for this turn have been spent. You are out of luck.

>Wiki: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=SpacePrincessQuest.SpacePrincessQuest
>Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=WhatGoesUp.WhatGoesUp

All posts must use the royal we. Any suggestion unfitting a princess will be ignored
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We should send out a shortwave message to ham radio folk asking to try to tune onto it! That'll get some people interested, too.
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>>25858657
The probe is out of range of any other radio on the planet. The only radio teliscope with enough resolution to pick up the signal is the one that's still being worked out.
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>>25858373
My lady. I suggest we use a series of mosfets and vacuum tube based amplifiers, connected via a series of amplification circuits, attuned to the ionosphere's frequency to find the signal, thus regaining contact. Our images are always related, my lady/
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>>25858930
>>25858711
Also, as our diagram shows, now the radio scope may be the only one nearby, but when we combine it with the natural effects of the ionosphere, we can actually listen to signals from even deep space!
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>>25858930
>>25858978
Not enough time, The probe is rapidly approaching the lunar surface. If you can't get the radio teliscope working in time, it will crash without sending any pictures.


>The probe has to be there somewhere, sweep the teliscope across a wider area until you pick up the signal.
>It must be a tracking issue, Check calibration by aiming at one of the satellites.
>There must be some kind of interference we don't know about up there. Keep searching for anything and try to amplify the signal.
>The problem has to be with the probe not the teliscope, keep broadcasting a reset signal until we get a reply.
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>>25859128
>Sweep

combined with an optical search, and then broadcast a reset signal at .3 second intervals.
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>>25859128
First off, check calibration. We need to remove a variable.

Let's do science to this!

Put on something businessike and tell anyone who isn't willing to help to stay out of our hair.
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>>25859128
Check the calibration. At least that might give us a hint of where the problem lies.

((I'm going to be a touch busy tonight but I'll pop in and out when I can. Sorry.))
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>>25859128
>It must be a tracking issue, Check calibration by aiming at one of the satellites.>The problem has to be with the probe not the teliscope, keep broadcasting a reset signal until we get a reply.
We must do both.
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>>25859128
It's probably the calibration. We should check that first. If not, we can take a page from every troubleshoot manual ever and turn it off and then on again.
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Fortunately you have a network of radio satellites to calibrate against. On your first pass you notice an error, the satellite appears a fraction of a degree away from it's actual predicted position. A quick wireless to the navy confirms your fears, the radio-telescope is off calibration.

There is no time to fix this, but you should be able to compensate, unless the gears are still slipping.

You have gained one luck point
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>>25859128
When we roll, can we use Lydia's Engineering score to improve the result?
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>>25859385
We shall immediately have ourselves and any computers on-hand calculate a compensation for the drift, and attempt to make contact with the probe again.
We must not lose this probe.
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Rolled 8, 7 = 15

>>25859385
Compensating for the error and crossing your fingers, you slew the teliscope back to the Probe's location above the lunar surface.

The error was less than a degree, but over the vast distances of space, it was enough to lose the signal entirely.

>>25859394
Only from boom to fail. Piloting won't help here.
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>>25859450
AAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

>luck point.
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Rolled 10, 9 = 19

>>25859450
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>>25859503
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>This is some pretty shitty rolls right here.
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>>25859503
That's nearly half of an entire Turn's budget worth of investment that we lost.

And we won't be able to attempt it again for at least another 4 Turns.
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>>25859450

We should ask the help of an older naval officer, and explain the problem in terms of having to get a location fix by the stars, but in reverse. He or she is likely to know a few tricks to get a large thing to move just a bit.
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>>25859546

So let's do MORE science to it!

Were we able to talk to the thing at all?
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>>25859525
The teliscope makes a grinding noise and slows to a halt, it sounds a bit like that.

Eventualy you look at the chronometer to see it reading T+31 seconds to impact. The mission is a failure. Your probe has gone further than any man-made object, but you have nothing to show for it. Even under the most powerful optical teliscope, the lunar surface is unchanged.
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>>25859580
We shall grind our teeth in frustration, and order the RRC engineers and technicians to begin repairs and to recalibrate the Radio Telescope.
We have 5 Turns before we can attempt to launch again.
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>>25859580

Blast. Oh well,time to work on the reactive power pile(sounds silly) during the storm season. Also need to visit the south governments for more potential recruits and Ideas.
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>>25859546
What's more, if both those Booms dropped the telescope's Fail/Boom ratings by 2 points each, we've lost 40RP of investment in the telescope, too. This is a gigantic setback.

((Oooh, that's convenient, 4chanX can maintain two separate names across different tabs. I might be able to participate more than I thought.))
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>>25859623
>work on the reactive power pile
We cannot develop the radio-reactive test pile without a physical pile to work with. Where are you planning on building this reactive pile, considering that it is extremely dangerous?
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>>25859628
No the second boom was reduced to a fail by Lydia's engineering skill. Re-rolls only count if they are better. (The luck point is still spent however)
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>>25859618

That is a major setback indeed. We should still ask if there was a confirmed sighting anywhere.

We should also review our doctrine.

Probes are a good idea for routine tasks, but clearly we need a thinking mind out there to break new ground. Counterintuive perhaps, but history so far seems to make that point.
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>>25859623
>>25859650
The pile is currently on the island, but (once we've repaired the damage to the telescope) we should work on improving MultiVAC. Maybe we can get it to calculate the storms so we can work around them better, or something.
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>>25859673

Ahh ,missed the pile(hehe) being built on Island.
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>>25859667
Sending a manned mission is our ultimate goal, however, you are ignorant of the massive investments required in getting a manned mission to the Moon.
We do not have a capsule that is even remotely ready to get a Void Knight into lunar orbit and bring him back safely.
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>>25859709

We're having more problem with remote control than with having someone on board who can improvise.

While we figure out how to weather the PR storm that is going to match the real one, we shall figure out a way to address this.

For now we should go full wooden ships and iron men.
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Turn 17 Budget:
45RP Radio Telescope 17/20
3RP MultiVAC 7/10

We also need to develop Harker's Meteor, and get a reusable Capsule developed before the Merikans do. Same with Reusable launch vehicles; combined, that's a 3RP bonus that we could get.
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>>25859764
umm wat is that?
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>>25859784

That is a Rabitian cosmonaut.

>>25859783

We should focus on the Meteor a bit more...
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>>25859824

But...were are the arms and legs? I couldn't tell if they were wrapped around the back or missing.
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>>25859824
On the Meteor, how does that work. Is it 1 mass for every 10 payload like a capsule? or something else. Looking at the wiki it appears to be 2 mass for every 10 payload. But I'm not completely sure.
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Inspection of the traverse indicates the wrong lubrication was used causing the gears to become worn out. This is fixable and only somewhat suspicious. You don't think any of your men would make that mistake.

It is now turn 17 and you have 50 points to spend.
How will you spend your time.

>Personally overseeing the repairs of the radio-telescope.
>Relax and recover your stamina while the repairs are made.
>Ask Mom and her masked friends for advice.
>Call Ms Kenaway for advice.

The weather back home has cleared up and there have been minimal damages this time. But the weather sat is telling you there will be another storm next turn.
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>>25859878
>Personally overseeing the repairs of the radio-telescope.

Turn 17 budget:
50RP Radio Telescope 18/20

Get the radio telescope out of the way.
Also, the usage of the wrong lubricant is suspicious. We shall need to order more frequent maintenance checks and enhanced security.
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>>25859878

At least the weather sat is working. So far we're not doing too hot with exploration, but the whole space endeavor has borne fruit for the common derp!

Is it too late to take up Orion on his offer?

>>25859850
Missing. They're born like that. There's a couple other WGU games happening, it was a friend's idea. It's some sort of bunny person.
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>>25859912

Were our people in charge of that, or the Society's?
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>>25859912

Lets do it, hopefully we can spot some sign of sabotage and report our findings to parliament.
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>>25859866
A normal capsule is 1 mass for every 10 payload (round up)
A winged capsule like the meteor is 2 mass for every 10 payload (round up)

Here are the proposals for the meteior and the trailblaizer.

Meteor (Mass 2)
• Pilot
• Engineer
• Cargo
• RCS

Trailblazer (Mass 1)
• Pilot
• Engineer
• Cargo
• Cargo
• RCS

Both are designed to be launched with a new mass 2 engine and 4 units of fuel, on top of a Cheribum. They could also be tested sub-orbitaly with an Archangel launch.
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>>25859926

Why would you breed people with out leg...OK NM don't answer that I think I get it.
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>>25859936

Do not assume malice for what can be explained by incompetence -- nobody's ever had to make something this precise before.
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>>25859764
Do the calculations for something like that.
An unmanned lunar probe costs 22RP and can be launched as soon as we have the launch facilities and workshops repaired on Turn 21.

A manned expedition, assuming 1 crew, would require at minimum a Mass 9 Capsule to be invented, developed, and launched.
That would require 27RP for invention, and since the Pathfinder is only a Mass 3 Capsule, tech transfer won't work, so it starts at 1/5.
That's 297RP to get it up to 19/20. Assuming we put everything into this Capsule and develop nothing else, it'll take 6 turns (since we also have to test launch it) before it can be used.
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>>25859966

Maybe the next probe rocket should carry a waylight or at least some sort of strobe so that it's easier to trace?
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>>25859954

I shall assume our people are more than competent and instead assume somebodyLike General Claywants us and the RRC to look bad.
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>>25859951
That's the Meteor 2, isn't it? Since the original Meteor can only have a pilot and an RCS.
Also, we need to successfully launch and recover the Meteor before we can tech transfer its development into the Meteor 2.
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>>25859966
We'd also need a lifter capable of *carrying* a Mass 9 capsule and everything needed to send it to the Moon and back, which we don't even remotely have yet.
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>>25859993
We did launch it suborbitally.
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>>25859951
>with a new mass 2 engine and 4 units of fuel
What new Mass 2 Engine? Hawtrey's thruster assembly is a Mass 1. We haven't invented his improved Mass 2 version that can send up to a Mass 20 load yet.
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>>25860007
We launched it, but it crashed on re-entry.
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>>25860022
No, it 'almost' crashed. Sir Harker only broke 1 arm.
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>>25860022

We seem to get that a lot.

Putting a living mind inside the capsule is the way to go!
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>>25860009
Exactly, you will need to invent one. You could test the capsules with a smaller engine if you want to use less fuel however. It will just limit the range.
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How about investing in improving the princess' and the astronauts' skills?
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>>25860088

We'll have to do at least a little bit of that.

There's also the possibility of assembling a craft in orbit...
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>>25860036
The landing was a fail, and in order for a reusable capsule to be considered a success and for the tech transfer to work, all points of a mission need to succeed.
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>>25860201

We'll have to do that again when Sir Harker is better. It's his baby, so he'll want to fly it.

On more pressing matters, what's our plan?
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>>25860201
I count it as a success for moral.

>>25859966
So.. 297 RP?

Turn 17
50RP Radio Telescope 18/20
>Personally overseeing the repairs of the radio-telescope.

Turn 18
27 RP invent mass 9 capsule 1/5
18 RP Mass 9 Capsule 2/6
5 RP Radiotelescope 19/20
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>>25860211
We need to get the radio-telescope up and running as soon as possible so that it is ready for our next attempt at a lunar mission.

We need to develop MultiVAC, EVA gear, and further develop the Meteor, so that when we use tech transfer to invent the Meteor 2 (Mass 8 Reusable Capsule) we'll get a better developed capsule for cheaper.

We also need to speak with Ms. Kenaway about what the Suthland city-states are going to do about the West Isles revolt.
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>>25860259

We're not a professional; on the other hand, we can't be seen to slack off. Sounds good to me, seconded.
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>>25860211
Sir Harker has been better for a while now. Also if you are testing sub-orbitaly you could launch from another location.

>>25859926
>Is it too late to take up Orion on his offer?
Not too late, although the weather isn't looking good.

>>25859912
Budget confirmed, updating wiki.
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>>25860259
I support this budget, at least for this turn. I don't think we should start work on a Mass 9 capsule until we've made sure we know what we're doing with smaller manned launches, just to Earth orbit.
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>>25860259
That Mass 9 doesn't take into account the fact that the Capsule itself is also Mass 1.
Also, you're going to make it disposable? Are you sure? That's pissing away a lot of RP's for every launch.
And it's only enough for 1 crew member; is 1 going to be enough for a lunar mission when a pilot AND an engineer are the recommended crew, especially because every action takes 1 Stamina and there are 4 burns to be done?
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>>25860300
>Not too late, although the weather isn't looking good.


Ooooh can we do that please please?
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A mass 9 capsule would be throwing away an opertunity for a tech transfer. It would be the Cheribum debacle all over again.

>>25860321
Dude wait for the storm season to end first.
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>>25860321
No! We already have our hands busy trying to repair the radio-telescope and preventing more failures.
Start acting like a Gates, instead of some air-headed teenager.
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>>25860339

:( Point.

> Shoveling propJob
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Mass 1 - Crew
Mass 2 - Rations for 2 turns
Mass 2 - Mass 2 Thruster
Mass 3 - 15 Fuel
Mass 1 - Photovoltaic Panels
Mass 1 - Television Module
Mass 2 - Capsule itself
Mass 12 is what the Capsule would have to be in order to get to the moon and back, assuming that it only does one quick flyby and doesn't stay a turn in Lunar orbit to prove that it's there.
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>>25860397

That doesn't sound too outlandish. A flyby would bring back good pictures and useful information -- depending on when it's done, we might be able to scope out the far side of the moon and see if there are any space nazis.

(Is the Moon tidally locked?)
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>>25860392
This is King Gates, and he is judging us.
So far, we have not impressed.
So stop trying to be a disappointment.
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>>25860410
This new Manned Lunar Capsule won't allow for any real science to be done because as soon as it enters Lunar Orbit it needs to immediately burn to escape, since it doesn't have enough Rations for a Void Knight to survive the trip home if it tarries.

It will also cost as much as the Cheribum to develop, and is so heavy that the Cheribum can only just lift it.

It would be far better to do an unmanned Lunar Mission while we develop an intermediary Capsule, and set up a Habitat in Geo-Synchronous orbit.
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>>25860397
So a landing and return would look something like this then?
Mass 2 - Crew, pilot and engineer
Mass 4 - Rations for 2 turns for 2 people
Mass 2 - Mass 2 Thruster
Mass 6 - 30 Fuel
Mass 1 - Photovoltaic Panels
Mass 1 - Television Module
>Leaving us with 16 loaded mass
Mass 2 - For a capsule
Mass 4 - For a Meteor like ship

Mass 18 or 20 is a fuckton of mass.
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>>25860410
Yes, most moons are.

While you are fixing your radio teliscope, Ms Kenaway's space program completes it's first successful spacewalk. The papers have pictures of the brave Space scout being paraded down the streets in Merika.
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>>25860523

If we do direct ascent, yes. It may be worth it to make a lunar module.
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>>25860548

What is the general public feeling about the whole thing so far?
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>>25860548
>Ms Kenaway's space program completes it's first successful spacewalk
That's another 2 RP bonus that she gets.
We need to concentrate on our work, not get distracted by unnecessary concerns.
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>>25860523
>Mass 6 - 30 Fuel
Wait what? 30 fuel would weigh 30mass. Also it's only 12 burns so it will be somewhat less than 24 units of fuel.

I'll also point out that power sources are only necessary for un-manned spacecraft. A manned spacecraft gets most of it's power from fuel cells that are included in the weight of the rations.

>>25860548
Also sorry forgot to namefag on that one.
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>>25860625
Well shit then. Is there any way we can put that fuel in a rocket or something so it doesn't count towards the mass of the lander. Because it will never get off the ground then.
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>>25860625
Fuel, as a consumable, is supposed to be Mass 1 per 10 units of fuel, according to the wiki.
Did you make a houserule that 1 unit of Fuel is Mass 1?
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>>25860677
Oh dear, spacecore must have changed that, unless I've been really really dumb the whole time (which I wouldn't put past myself).

The only house rule i am using is that rations take up 1 mass unit (Because I also removed a lot of the duration steps from the map), with the intention that you can research more efficient rations later.

Let me think a bit about the fuel mass. Because this screws up all the calculations I have made so far. I'll likely fluff it as another breakthrough in rocket efficiency.
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>>25860731
With great breakthroughs in rocket technology our plan looks like:

Mass 2 - Crew, pilot and engineer
Mass 4 - Rations for 2 turns for 2 people
Mass 2 - Mass 2 Thruster
Mass 3 - 30 Fuel ( With room to spare!)
Mass 1 - Photovoltaic Panels
Mass 1 - Television Module
>Leaving us with 13 loaded mass
Mass 2 - For a capsule
Mass 4 - For a Meteor like ship

So that's mass 15 or 17.

With the re-usability of the meteor design, coupled with it being able to be used for other missions I would be okay spending for the extra 2 mass.
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>>25860731
Fuel mass is a right mess on the wiki.
Under Consumables, it says that 1 Mass of Fuel is equal to 1 burn, not taking into account the mass of the thruster or capsule at all.
Under the Fuel Formula, it shows that a unit of Fuel is only good for 10 Mass, and 1 unit of Fuel is 1 Mass.
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>>25860801

sorry!
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>>25860801
Space core is Italian, go easy on him.

Under my rules 1 mass is 1 fuel unit, and you burn 1 unit of fuel for every 10 mass of spacecraft.

Improvements to this would make fuel lighter, engines that consume less fuel, or hybrid engines which are fuel that can be burned without an engine.
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>>25860965
Are rations used up at the beginning or end of a turn?
And there should be 6 burns in total for a lunar mission:
Orbital Insertion, Injection, Lunar Capture, Lunar Escape, Recapture, and Deorbit.
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>>25861008
Depends if you want to land or not. Honestly I'd suggest a two launch profile with a lander and command module launched on two mass 20 rockets.
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>>25860787
Orbital Insertion Burn - 3 units of Fuel
Injection Burn - 3 units of Fuel
Lunar Capture Burn - 2 units of Fuel
Lunar Escape Burn - 2 units of Fuel
Recapture Burn - 2 units of Fuel
Deorbit Burn - 1 units of Fuel

Plus Mass 2 Crew, Mass 2 Thruster, Mass 4 Rations, Mass 1 Television Module, Mass 3 Dry Weight Capsule = 12 Mass + 13 Mass Fuel

We're looking at Mass 25. That's twice what the Cheribum can carry.
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>>25861079
You haven't answered the question about the rations.

And are you confirming that it takes 3 burns to get to the Moon, and 3 more to get back, assuming no landing?

We need these answers if we're going to calculate Mass and fuel requirements properly.
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>>25861207
Rations? A two man crew going to the Moon and back is 4 rations.
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>>25861237
No, when are they consumed?
Are they consumed at the beginning or end of a turn? Or in the middle?
When multiple burns have to be done in a single turn, it makes knowing when the Rations are consumed important when calculating fuel use.
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They will be consumed after the lunar injection but before the lunar capture.
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>>25861329
Okay, so that's 2 Rations and 2 Mass accounted for.
Is it the same for the return trip? The remaining 2 Rations will be consumed after the Recapture Burn but before the Deorbit Burn?
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>>25861382
Yes.
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>>25861498
Is there any other news on Turn 17 besides success from Merika?

We shall contact the Foreign Ministry; what relations do we have, if any, with the Eastern Isles kingdom?
Also, we shall question Mr. Luxon about their royalty and politics, as well as society.
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>>25861682

This. Also, it'd be good to see whre we stand in the public eye...
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>>25861682
Just that the spacewalk is the next step to building what translates as "Heaven Village" a permanent space habitat in LEO.
The news also says something about the failure of your recent mission. It doesn't go into specifics, but it says ROCKET CORPS PROBE LOST IN SPACE.


As for the eastern isles, do you have any specific questions? And why not ask Orion himself?
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>>25861915

Yes, let's ask!


We should build our own heavenly village. With blackjack and -- eh, maybe not
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>>25861915
How much political power does the Queen possess? Is there a council, similar to our Parliament, which much ratify the Queen's decrees?
What is their basic tech level on their main island? Is it enough to support a Workshop and Hangar?

What would the Queen wish for ceding land to us for the purposes of building facilities there?

We shall ask Orion, but we shall also converse with Mr. Luxon about these matters. Orion, by his own admission, has no interest in political matters and is unlikely to be of much help in that regard.

>>25862038
We need to invent and develop a Habitat first, and they are not cheap!
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>>25862152
From what you have learned about the SSC is that they have an un-manned space capsule that cannot withstand atmospheric re-entry, they are using it as a stopgap space-station, but the concept they are showing in the press release shows a larger space habitat made out of inflatable modules based off of the balloons they were using earlier.

Hawtry thinks a better idea would be to fill an empty fuel tank with air and convert it into a habitat. It would have a similar reduction in launch weight and, he claims, would be much more sturdy.


As for Orion's mother. Queen Taurus rules over an island much larger than Tannhäuser. It's very hilly and covered with forests, but the inland valleys are mostly safe from the waves. Only torrential downpours, are a problem.

The queen has absolute power as long as people will listen to her. Her sons and daughters owe her loyalty, and other people follow her because of the wisdom and generosity she has demonstrated. If somebody disagrees with her, they might challenge her to a duel, (often resolved through champions) but only a fool would do so.
She gained quite a reputation among the royal marines during the war, when they discovered what she had done to the crew of a nord U-Boat that wrecked on her island.
As for building facilities, the best advice both Orion or Luxon can suggest is to ask nicely. The queen is very generous, but also very cunning and vengeful.
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>>25862355
What is the basic tech level of the Eastern Isles, and what is Midland's relations to them? Is there trade going on between the two?
Ask Orion if there is any desire from the Eastern Isles to take more part in world affairs?

Have Colonel Smith and Dame Minerva go over Hawtrey's habitat design; is it feasible and would it fit in our capsule?
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>>25862412
The nords tried and failed to capture the islands before deciding it was not worth it. There were few resources and the casualties were too high to make conquering them worthwhile. But there initial attempt introduced the easterners to metal tools and gunpowder weapons. The former being still in use today, and the latter having mostly expended it's amunition.

As for Hawtry's plan, at first smith scofs at it, but upon further consideration it's sound. The rocket fuel is flushed out with helium gas anyways, and inflatable bladders fill the ridged tank anyways. You'd have to carry oxygen and accomidations seperately, but that's really no diffrent than a normal habitat.
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>>25862655
What about cost and portability? Does the inflatable module have any advantages over the rigid version?

Do the Eastern Isles desire more metal tools and bullets for their guns? Is there anything that they can use to pay for them?
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>>25862754

what he said
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>>25862754
Mechanically speaking they would be the same. A habitat module launched as a mass 1 cargo by a regular capsule, and then deployed in orbit to be filled with people consumables and payloads. Flavor wise the SSC will have an easier time building and designing one, while the RRC will have an easier time designing and building the other.

As for metal tools, That might be a good place to start bartering.
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>>25862655

Let's do it. Wet habitat ftw!

>>25862754

If we visit, we should be very polite about it, and only discuss the matter with the Queen.

Also, we'll have to see what surplus we have.
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>>25862906
We shall contact the Foreign Ministry and the State Ministry, as well as the Prime Minister.
We shall inform them of our desire to negotiate with the Kingdom of the Eastern Isles for a land purchase or lease, in which to position a workshop and hangar away from Tannhauser Island that can survive the Typhoon Season.
We shall speak with them specifically as to what resources we may purchase from the East Islanders; we are in a recession, and opening up new markets for our goods would help to get us out of our economic troubles.
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>>25862927
>Let's do it. Wet habitat ftw!
Habitats are developed like Capsules; a Habitat with a Payload of Mass 4 would be a Mass 5 Habitat.
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>>25862906
Can the Habitat modules be designed to link together?
For example, could we build 2 Mass 5 Habitats, launch them separately, then dock them together, and then have what is effectively a Mass 10 Habitat in orbit?

Also, can we develop and invent Capsules and Habitats at Fort Adler during the Typhoon Season? Such as developing the Meteor up to 10/15 so that a Mass 8 Meteor 2 could be invented with the tech transfer?
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>>25863138
Yes and yes.

>>25863028
You would have to go there and find out. None of the "riches" Orion discribes seem to be things that will be big hits back home, but something might be found.
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>>25863196

OK I'm down for visiting the eastern island to see what we can see.
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>>25863288
During Typhoon Season? There is a storm system already on the way; only an idiot would go into it.
I suppose that's why you want to go.
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>>25863196
So we have permission from the Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs to negotiate with the Eastern Isles?
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>>25863366
I didn't say right now. Just putting it up for consideration before we all forgot.
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>>25863288

Second this.
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>>25863403
What you meant and what people think you meant are apparently two separate things, since this guy >>25863409
appears eager to go now, and thinks you feel the same way.
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>>25863380
You could get it easy enough, although they would probably advise against it during a storm.

If they said no, you could probably get away with visiting in an unofficial capacity.
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>>25863438

I AM SO MISUNDERSTOOD!
But to be fair God Mother did post it was possible to visit the island, just risky due to the fact of no storm warnings. but when we get to the island it would be reasonably safe.
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>>25863463
Possible to visit the island, but that there is a storm system already on its way.
>>25859878
>But the weather sat is telling you there will be another storm next turn.
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>>25863460
We shall get the authorization from the Prime Minister, and we shall visit the Eastern Isles when the Typhoon Season is over.

Meanwhile, we shall have an investigation opened into the use of the wrong type of lubricant. We must determine who did it, and prevent it from happening again.
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Okay, it's probably not a good idea to visit the island until the storm season is over. There are plenty of other things to do until then.

>Harker wants to rebuild the Meteor and launch it from fort Adler or Halcyon manor for a sub-orbital test.
>Adell wants to build MVAC in Stonefield.
>Hawtry wants to develop the mass 2 engine and wet habitat.
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>>25863615
agreed, can't be having shoddy maintenance practices
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>>25863632

how feasible would it be to split the budget between Harker and Adell's projects?
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>>25863632
We shall concentrate on the Meteor and the MultiVAC for now. Hawtrey's projects will be started on Turn 20.

Turn 18 Budget:
5RP Radio Telescope 19/20
Activate it and test
24RP Meteor 8/13
3RP Build MultiVAC Core at Stonefield
18RP MultiVAC 9/13
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>>25863615
As you investigate the matter of the lubricant, things only become more confounded. The records indicate that the proper type was purchased and applied, and you can see the can that was used for yourself. It's a very reputable brand. Yet clearly either something else was applied to the gears, or this can is somehow a counterfeit or bad batch.

If only you had an alchemist...
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>>25863774

Looks good to me. We should scan the best guess for the impact point in case something's still broadcasting. Long shot, but might as well.
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>>25863864
Minerva is an alchemist. INVESTIGATION GO!
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>>25863774
From Turn 19, we would need:
51RP to finish MultiVAC
60RP to get the Meteor to 18/18
6RP to invent Mass 2 Thrusters
28RP to finish developing Mass 2 Thrusters (thanks to Tech Transfer)
33RP to finish the EVA suit
18RP to invent Mass 6 Habitat (Capacity 5)
198RP to Develop Mass 6 Habitat
24RP to Invent Meteor 2
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>>25863864

This is worth investigating. Minerva and Klaus probably have better things to do, but Hawtrey may be able to spare the time.

Let's not leak anything to the press before we have something more solid.
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>>25863882

Ehh I don't think she would know. Isn't Hawtry an Alchemist?
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>>25863864
Minerva, Klaus, and Hawtrey all have backgrounds as alchemists, and there should be some alchemists on the RRC staff working on our rocket fuel.

Have them begin an investigation into the lubricant that was bought, and what used in the gears.
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>>25863909

Minerva and Klaus should be allowed to focus on their pet project.
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>>25863949
Minerva and Klaus's pet project is locked in the basement of Tannhäuser island.
Hawtry's pet project would be larger engines and a wet workshop.

In any case you are able to invoke the manufacturer's refund to get a second can of lubricant for alchemical analysis. The results will be ready at the end of turn 18.

Do you have any plans for the Equinox?
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>>25863949
They can't because their test pile is on Tannhauser Island and it's dangerous to build a new test pile here on the mainland. Also, they need RP's in order to work on their test pile's development, and we haven't been budgeting any.

So no, they can't focus on their pet project.
Don't suggest something that's patently impossible.
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>>25863993

Lets get the refund and compare it to what was applied.

For the equinox I think we should do something With our void knights, Like Visit Ms Kenway's rocket program and trade/Compare notes. After all, this is a race for mankind not just the kingdom.
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>>25863993
We shall attend our Mother's Equinox festival, as we are sure she will throw one.
Aside from that, we shall continue with our investigation.

>>25864042
You do realize that there is no consolation prize for the loser, don't you? In the public's view, we are perceived as losing this race, and our most recent project failed.

And we already got the refund. Pay attention to what's going on.
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>>25863993

No rest for the miserable.

No party this time, only work. Studying and improving the Princess' skills.
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>>25864042
>Like Visit Ms Kenway's rocket program and trade/Compare notes
Are you serious about winning this race, or do you think this is just about playing at being Director of the RRC?
Our father, and the people of Midland expect success and victory from the Royal Rocketry Corps; not this mediocre performance that we have been giving.

There is no technology that the SSC has that we currently lack, except for a Capsule that is larger than the Pathfinder. We on the other hand, have many technologies that they lack.
Any exchange of technology would therefore favor them. And because our Lunar Probe mission failed while the SSC's EVA mission succeeded, the public of Midland and the world view the RRC as having fallen behind.

This is a RACE, a competition, and this IS a race between kingdoms. Your naive optimism is sickening.
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>>25864489
In all fairness there is only one kingdom, and the race was started as a friendly dare before the SSC was even conceived.
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>>25864690
Alright, so it's a race between a Kingdom and a Confederacy, and while it started as a friendly wager, that does not change the fact that we are being judged on our progress.
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>>25863774
>3RP Build MultiVAC Core at Stonefield
Just a note: this is actually the SECOND MultiVAC Core to be built at Stonefield.
We built one there on Turn 16.

This isn't much of a problem, as MultiVAC operates better the more Cores are connected together.
It is not noted in the Wiki, however, so it needs to be stated here lest God Mother forget.
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>>25864932
The points were re-allocated to improve the radio-telescope. Not that it helped much.

>>25863774
>5RP Radio Telescope 19/20
>Activate it and test
>24RP Meteor 8/13
>3RP Build MultiVAC Core at Stonefield
>18RP MultiVAC 9/13
Confirming budget, updating wiki.

How shall you test the teliscope,
>Scan the pole for any sign of Foe Stars
>Scan the ecliptic for any anomalies
>Double check calibration against the comsat network

Also a tiebreaker vote is required for this turn's activity, Will you be attending your mothers Equinox party or go somewhere else?
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>>25865211

Align the damn thing once and for all!

Spedig a bit of time with fmaily soudns goodo.
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>>25863886
>>25863774
Let's plan out our next few projects.
Turn 19 Budget
30RP MultiVAC 14/18
20RP Meteor 10/16

Turn 20 Budget
21RP MultiVAC 19/20
24RP Meteor 12/20
5RP EVA Suit 3/8
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>>25865211
>Double check calibration against the comsat network
We shall attend the Equinox Party as there is little else to do while we await the results of our investigation.
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>>25865289
We don't need the Meteor to be completely safe; we only need it good enough to make 1 successful landing.
We could develop it up to 14/19 by Turn 20, only develop the MultiVAC 18/20, and use 6RP's to launch the Meteor for a sub-orbital test flight from Fort Adler.

During Turn 19, we will need to activate the MultiVAC Core at 10/15 to achieve a test before we can develop it further in the turn to 14/18.
We should put extra security on it, and do a last-minute check of it before activating it. I have a feeling there might be sabotage going on.
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>>25865860
Two successful landings would be required.


And although I would love to start the Equinox festival event, it's getting late so I'll save that for Tuesday. We can still make plans and argue about things, but no more IC actions for now.

Thank you for almost 150 posts. I think this is our personal record.
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>>25865942
You really should put the roster of active Void Knights up. We need to know who needs what training.
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>>25866071
I know I know, it's on my to do list.
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>>25865289
>>25865860
Turn 19 Budget
9RP MultiVAC 10/15
Activate and Test MultiVAC
21RP MultiVAC 14/18
20RP Meteor 10/16
Communicate with Ms. Kenaway about the revolt in the Western Isles and if the Suthland Confederacy will assist Midland in putting social pressure on the protesters to stop.

Turn 20 Budget
6RP Archangel Rocket Built
4RP Meteor Built
28RP Meteor 15/18
Launch Meteor Test Flight from Fort Adler
12RP MultiVAC 15/20

Turn 21/22
Repair facilities at Tannhauser Island
12RP MultiVAC 19/20
12RP Meteor 18/18
6RP Archangel Rocket Built
Launch Meteor Test Flight
18RP Invent Mass 6 (Capacity 5) Habitat, Tech Transfer from Pathfinder (Mass 3 Capsule) 10/15
Develop EVA Suit
Open Negotiations with Eastern Isles.
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>>25866435
We need to launch another Lunar Probe as soon as possible, though.
And we should get the Habitat running quickly, so that we can restart manned missions again. Our Void Knights have been languishing for months without missions.
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Good news, spacecore agrees with me that there are too many steps involved in returning to earth from the moon. It should be Return, Reacpture, De-orbit. Instead of Return1, Return2, Recapture, De-Orbit.
If you perfect MVAC enough you might also be able to master the secrets of free-returns and skip re-entry which would reduce it to a single burn.

An Earth Orbit Rendezvous mission is definitely possible with a reasonable budget.


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