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Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Succubus Lord Quest!

Apologies for no thread last week, I didn’t feel that well. Still not that well not, but hell if I’m leaving this thread out to dry. Pardon me if my writing seems a bit sloppy this week.

Last time on Succubus Lord Quest we discussed the results of Erika’s nightmare with the noble girls, taking heed of the warning signs while trying to reassure the girls. After getting caught flirting with Amanda by Erika, we went over to check on good old Doctor Gaterkin about how his alchemical lab is doing, finally we stopped in to see Mina (who is currently with the Adventuring group). After being reassured that Alex and Mina were doing nothing at all, you went on a shopping trip with Mina.

We now continue from where we left off! ...Or a little after that.
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CHARACTER SHEETS:

Brooklyn (Current protagonist): https://docs.google.com/document/d/16x32JNNBRnUAk-PQNXcqMaVvtDMLsHRARj3kk4mrj1M/edit
Mina: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wAOC8_7DCjRIiV2_Zzzfz0xu9_JHCGfti8dw0eZSS8E/edit
Brodin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jIfmmTHbwrujeLZ9CkBeVoTEs6_uJPpo7CW5EKKTj_8/edit
Ada: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19LG6d19luxQjAWNtKHiL2MMmTsUygdaHZ4WSd-9hid8/edit
Sebastien: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DRNg7dimGiWmwD1dalLgw2H_8L_K930KL4Mr4mEk1x4/edit
Erika:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JDLySqbJ1IgrLkXV7glI7ucP2U5dpYweaQErAZ_5nd0/edit
Alex (NEW!): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pOxi73DRA-lwBG34RTtCdXA8-4QES5GDqCJfqzLZU3k/edit
Amanda (NEW!): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-NpLAhW8YQxCQkRl_0CK-4NoafeV7PpJTH2QyqIbObs/edit

OLD GAMES:
Thread 2 (Contains link to thread 1 in first few posts): http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22034277/
Thread 3: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22094978/
Thread 6: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22181221/
Thread 21: http://www.mediafire.com/?p6pwskaau8px2vc (The achiever messed up, so here's the entire thread I saved in complete form)

Magic List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hTt8OQDQjmUSnLaEZtF7v_NoembWKHQmx3ZGHuCLQAs/edit

Rest here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Succbus%20Lord%20Quest

If you enjoy, then please vote!

Chat: #SuccubiDemonLordCYOA in irc.rizon.net
Twitter: Sandact6

Tell me if I forgot anything on the sheets. And if you have good Succubi pictures, post them please!
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[1/2]

The shopping blitz with Mina lasts for quite some time. Mina seems to encourage you to get ‘proper’ women’s clothing while you turn the tables and force her to wear a few pairs of pants. Which apparently she doesn’t like all that much due to them being ‘oddly restrictive’. All your bills are sent to the Langy family proper, and to wind down your shopping spree both you and Mina decide to head over to a street food vendor to get yourselves something to eat.

(NOTE: In game terms this means you can have nearly any sort of clothing that you want now, so long as it seemingly fits with a Medieval/Victorian theme to it.)

“Well now that’s done and out of the way.” you say as you glance at the time as the worker hands you your bowl of soup, it is about 5:00 PM right now.”

“I was actually happy we were able to buy you so much!” Mina says as she takes her spoon and begins to eat her soup.

“Thank god we were able to finish on time. I still have a few things to do before tonight.” you mention to Mina.

“Oh? Like to go and see one of your noble girls?” Mina asks you.

“Hm... Yea I guess you can say that...” you say while blushing.

Mina just looks at you with a sly smile. “Aaahhh! Brooklyn no eechi!”

“What the hell does that mean!?” you reply to Mina.

“You know what! I had my suspicions during the summoning ritual but the look on your face now confirms it!” Mina says pointing her spoon at you.
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[2/2]

“OK fine. I admit we’ve been having a few flings. She most likely sees me as her girlfriend.” you reply to Mina.

“Hm... I’d be careful around her in that case.” Mina replies.

“Why’s that?” you reply.

“Well for starters she probably most likely thinks of you as her girlfriend. Secondly as a young hormone laden teenager coupled with her prideful and determined personality, it makes so the longer you’re with her in what she sees as a serious relationship, the harder it’s going to break off from that.”

“I’ve broken up with girlfriends before. Hell in one case I was the one who started it.” you reply to Mina.

“Have any of them been as determined as Amanda?” Mina says raising a counterpoint. “I certainly don’t mind who you’re with Brooklyn, but remember you gotta keep in mind your partner’s desires too!”

“Hm...” you say as you look down into your soup bowl and give it a few swirls.

(What do/say now? Amanda should be getting off work in an hour)
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Not really. I suppose we could talk to the queens about our relationship with Amanda and the whole subordinate mess.
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>>25402053
Ask mina if she has some advice on what to do when amanda meets the twins. We are so going to be screwed if we don't have an idea on handling her then.
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>>25402108
I don't see much point in it, they probably will say the same thing mina did and it seems like we might be relying on them a bit too heavily..?
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>>25402053
"You do make a good point, I have been keeping a number of things from her, like you. Not really sure how to introduce you without giving her an amount of information that may put her in danger.

And well, as you say, she probably thinks that what we have is different from what I think, and we never really cleared that up.

Mina, you seem like the person to ask. How do you tell a hormonal, prideful girl that you've been sleeping with someone else since before you started doing anything with them?"
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>>25402127
But mina didn't say anything on the topic.
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>>25402108
So ask them "How do I turn someone like her into someone willing to happily say 'yes boss'?" Works for me.
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Oh yes, one more thing to add.

Bad news: Next week I'll be doing midterms and a final, so no thread week.

Good news: Since one of my courses are cancelled, I should be able to throw out more updates after that.
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>>25402108
What subordinate mess? Also, do you expect the queens to give decent relationship advice (aside from "talk to her!") in a timely manner? We still are transforming the twins tonight, right (and probably spending a good deal of time with them afterwards)? So really we picked the wrong day for this discussion
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>>25402177
Awwwwww.

Woot!

But seriously, best of luck over there!
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>>25402172
Would probably be "yes master" given our relationship with her.
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>>25402027
[x] Determine if horn scratches feel good. Experiment on Erika and Mina. Look for source of blue paint
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>>25402172
Make them trust you and do a very good job leading them? Lot'sa work but not that difficult to do.
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>>25402172
something like this would be my choice.
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>>25402108
Do we even have enough time to set up a summoning ritual?
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I am against any sort of actions which would drive Amanda away. And 'putting her in her place' talks definately would do that.
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"You do make a good point, I have been keeping a number of things from her, like you. Not really sure how to introduce you without giving her an amount of information that may put her in danger.” you reply.

“To be fair I don’t blame you Brooklyn. Withholding that information is for her own good.” Mina says. “Unlike Brodin who can freely expose his identity if he desires with no retribution of any kind.”

“Well, as you say, she probably thinks that what we have is different from what I think, and we never really cleared that up. Mina, you seem like the person to ask. How do you tell a hormonal, prideful girl that you've been sleeping with someone else since before you started doing anything with them?" you ask her.

“Well the main thing you’d want to do, in really any kind of breakup or harsh news, is claim it is your fault, even if it really isn’t. It sometimes makes people less upset. Secondly is that... Well... You’re going to have to give her the ‘friend’ talk.” Mina says.

You instinctively know what that is. EVERY man does. “Can I still be friends with her after saying such a thing?”
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>>25402441

Definetly. That's...really a terrible idea. Especially when we have loyal friends already. This isn't turning an enemy into an ally or something.
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if you look at the time line. First mina deflowered us and taught us how to sex without killing anyone. She was our sex mentor.

Then we started sleeping with amanda. We haven't slept mina since we started with amanda. And mina has been amusing herself with alex.

So it could be a discussion of "what kind of relationship are we gonna have" thing.
Also, we could just NOT fuck the twins.

On the other hand, we could try the turn around "why were you assuming we were in a monogamous relationship! you anti poly bigot" but that seems like it would end in tears.
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[2/2]


“Oh yea! Completely possible! When you first say it she’ll probably want some space, be all broody for a bit. That’s always normal, but so long as you build up a good relationship with her in which you treat her as one of your friends, because that’s what you’ll be.” Mina replies. “I mean look at me and Alex. I like him yes, but certainly not in that way! I’m pretty certain he feels the same way. We fuck yes, but we also talk and do things other than sex. In your way I think maintaining the student and sensei relationship you have right now is the best thing. Whenever she’s open to something like a friend with benefits is up to her though. Some people, like Erika, the idea is completely alien to them. For someone like Amanda? It could honestly swing either way, though I know when I was younger I had several partners. ...Granted that’s part of me believing that then that Succubi were promiscuous by nature, but I also feel it was me just being a teenager.”

“Most my teenage years was spent with my dad and tutors reading books...” you grumble under your breath.

“Be glad at least you knew your parents.” Mina says before grabbing the bowl of soup and begins drinking it.
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>>25402172

God no. This whole make people our slaves idea is godawful.
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>>25402138
We already introduced Mina as Protina! Warrior of Justice! Just say that we've known her for awhile and she helped us...explore...when we first turned. You do realize that no matter what we are going to piss her off royaly, right?
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>>25402504
Agreed, I am against slaves.
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>>25402504
God damn it. Could people please stop misrepresenting everything people say?
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>>25402493
We are done here I think.
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>Astaroth
Do we have a penis? The answer to this question will decide my level of interest in this quest.
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>>25402539

To be honest I also read it in the way you wrote it. Boss being like a mentor figure not a master figure.
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>>25402493
>Granted that’s part of me believing that then that Succubi were promiscuous by nature,
To be fair, we believed the same thing when we did that.
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>>25402552
no, we do not have a penis. We do have a tail.
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>>25402552
We in fact, do not. We do however have shadow tentacles.
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>>25402552
No we don't
It's full on lesbian action.
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>>25402493
"I'm sorry Mina, I didn't mean to bring that up." Give Mina a hug.

"It'll probably be difficult, awkward, and emotionally painful, but talking to her about it is the right thing to do. Sometimes I hate doing the right thing."
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For the record, I'm in favor of harem.
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>>25402598
I am in favor of several harems.
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>>25402598
i think this is one of the few quests we'll probably get away with that.
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>>25402598
As am I. Honestly If I had to let a single one of our current stable go I would go with Mina.
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I would like to reiterate my point of the timeline.

Mina is the one who deflowered us but we haven't been active with her when we started with amanda. We could give any number of reasons to amanda why we shouldn't rush. Her being our student and not wanting to take advantage of her being just one.
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>>25402598
I would love a harem... but the question is on how to get one. Trying and failing is an easy way to burn a whole lot of bridges.
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>>25402618
We've taken advantage of her at least twice by my count. I vote we take further advantage of her. IIRC she's been subbing to us in the bedroom, which is a tendency we might want to encourage, both in the bedroom and eventually outside of it. That is my general strategy for the twins as well.
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>>25402562
>>25402564
>>25402568
Shame. I guess it's off to /d/ with me.
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"I'm... sorry Mina, I didn't mean to bring that up." You say leaning over and giving Mina a hug.

Mina smiles and attempts to give a hug back. “Water under the bridge Brooklyn. I lacked parents yes, but I found excellent male and female role models later in life, both of them I’d consider my Sensei for life matters.”

"It'll probably be difficult, awkward, and emotionally painful, but talking to her about it is the right thing to do.” you take a small sigh as you sip your soup. “Sometimes I hate doing the right thing."

“Well they say you tell can what the right thing to do by which path is more painful.” Mina replies to you.

(Anything else?)
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>>25402692
No
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How about (first rough draft)
"Amanda, when you first came on to me, it seemed so natural to reciprocate...
But I have been thinking, there are things about me you don't know and I cannot share until you become one of us. And the fact is that as your teacher I have enormous authority over you, to the point where some others have questions whether or not I am exploiting you. We should try to keep things a bit cooler until you can become one of us and I can tell you everything... then if you still want to we can perhaps be more. But no matter what I want to remain your friend"

And for a while at least lets avoid fucking. We can stoke relationships and passion without going all the way.

It is worth noting we could also blame our own misconception of succubi (not inherently promiscuous, but I believed they were and I used it as an excuse to be one)
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>>25402701
Nope.
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>>25402701
We are not giving her the friendship talk. Especially not dumping her for Mina.
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so why are we thinking of cooling it down again? Lets just see if she is receptive to the idea of sharing.
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>>25402707
Sigh, all that work on trying to hash something out and it gets shat on with one word.

Please show me how you can do better oh grandmaster wordsmith.
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>>25402721
We aren't.
>>25402730
The idea that we fess up and stop fucking is a terrible one. It starts from the preconception that we are willing to dump Mina for Amanda, which is fundamentally flawed.
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>>25402720
>>25402721
What, just walk up to her and say "I want to be just friends with benefits, lets fuck other people"?

Also, note that this is not a permanent deal but a slowing down for a bit. Where we can work up to friends with benefits harem AFTER we convert her and can reveal more to her
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>>25402698
>>25402707

So to Amanda then?
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>>25402756
yea.
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>>25402746
>The idea that we fess up and stop fucking is a terrible one. It starts from the preconception that we are willing to dump Mina for Amanda, which is fundamentally flawed.
Where in the world are you getting dumping mina for amanda?
We are currently juggling mina, amanda, and the twins. The idea is that we resolve the relationship issues before fucking again.
Choice between amanda and mina? I would choose mina.
But the whole point of >>25402701
is to START disentangling the mess we put ourselves in.
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>>25402667
>Always wanted to read SLQ because penis
>Confirmed to have no penis
Whelp, back to /d/ for me too.
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>>25402749
I personally go with talk to her about our position, and how we can help each other. Then hot sex where we dom her again. then maybe bring it up, using suggestion if necessary.
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I am >>25402775

Also, even if we choose mina over amanda we still want to break it with amanda easy so that there is no bad blood.

And the "stop fucking" is "stop fucking amanda and don't fuck the twins" first and foremost. Not a "stop fucking mina to fuck just amanda"
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>>25402692
Spend some more time with Mina, catch up on what she's been doing lately, we've been rather busy lately.

Ask her about flying lessons for when we're both free. Ask for all the juicy details about her and Alex.
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>>25402797
>not fucking the twins
Nope.
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>>25402721
Because we're going to be busy with the twins tonight and tomorrow, and we haven't played with Mina in a bit?

Serious answer, because we are hoping to retain her friendship if she reacts badly to our lack of commitment. Which is more likely given the bit of teasing we subjected her to in front of her friends.
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>>25402797
The thing is. I think some expressed that they don't have problem with fucking Amanda and the twins, as long as we love Mina.
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>>25402797
I prefer the "exploit her submissive tendencies" strategy. Also, the reason why I like the twins and Amanda much more than Mina.
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>>25402816
Agreed. Just make sure they are aware that we aren't into commitment.
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>>25402827
I think that Mina is fundamentally underestimating the strength of our relationship with the twins and Amanda. She thinks she is the special one, which frankly she isn't.
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>>25402835
You realize that Amanda is at least a switch, right?
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>>25402858
>She thinks she is the special one, which frankly she isn't.
B-but that's like your opinion!
She is special in my heart.
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>>25402855
Wrong. We are into commitment, we aren't into monogamy. Thank god that we don't have to deal with Christian cultural bias.
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>>25402877
From my understanding, she's subbed to us in all our FTB's so far. And if she is a switch, she can amuse herself with the twins when it comes to it, like Mina will have to.
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>>25402858
We did claim to be married to her in public. That probably gave her the wrong idea but can easily be explained by us feeling insecure about her being with men given our sudden change of gender.
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>>25402895
>like Mina will have to.
Explain.
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>>25402879
Also my opinion. The twins submissive tendencies make them my favorite, though I preferred their first visit to their second.
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>>25402795
No, no, no, no, we don't throw Suggestion at our romantic problems.

>>25402746
What? Where in anything that he said did he imply dumping Mina for Amanda? As for dumping Amanda for Mina, that's what we're trying to fucking avoid. We're trying to break the news that we're fucking other people to her nicely, let her know we care about her, and don't just view her as a sex partner.

What I'm getting from some people is that we'll just keep on merrily fucking away with Amanda, dom her, and throw suggestion at the problem so it's all okay.

People, just because someone has submissive tendencies doesn't mean that they won't tell you to fuck off and leave after you suddenly drop on them "I'm fucking other people and want you to be okay with it just because I dom you, instead of actually informing you about it and letting us talk about it."

>>25402858
Except Mina is the special one, she really is, she's been with us from the start and is the one who helped us through all of our problems, and while the Twins and Amanda are nice, they're not the SPECIAL one.


For fuck's sake people. Stop thinking with your dicks for two seconds and actually think of everyone involved as people not as objects that will do whatever we want just because we fuck them or that doming someone automatically makes them be just fine with everything we do no matter what.
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>>25402858
Well to be fair, we played Brooklyn as to have some feelings for Mina. (read all the pangs of jealousy and thoughts of Mina in the past threads). Plus the all the talk about commitments we have with Mina.
Mina may have picked up on that.
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>>25402831
>The thing is. I think some expressed that they don't have problem with fucking Amanda and the twins, as long as we love Mina.
Heck, I am the guy who you replied to and that is exactly my opinion. I want polygamy here.

The issue is that we weren't upfront, we messed up and we need to fix it. The suggested fix is damage control and is in no way an indication of choosing amanda first.

And I have yet to hear any other suggestions. I am literally the only one who posted dialog idea, I labeled it very rough draft, and it gets shat on and I get accused of wanting things that are the opposite of what I am advocating
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>>25402895
Look at Amanda's treatment of anyone she holds power/leverage over. She might be submissive around us now, but I doubt that will last given the personallity she's displayed over the course of the quest.
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>>25402918
We aren't subbing for her. the players have played Brooklyn as a strait dom in the threads.
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>>25402795
>Use suggestion
>Use suggestion on someone we fuck
Do you not even realize what rape is?
Also, we are going to convert them into succubi at which point they get resistance
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>>25402962
Except for all the times we haven't been with Mina, and the lack of confidence we've shown numerous times when it comes to sex. If you ignored all of that you'd be right.

Dumbass.
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>>25402933
>People, just because someone has submissive tendencies doesn't mean that they won't tell you to fuck off and leave after you suddenly drop on them "I'm fucking other people and want you to be okay with it just because I dom you, instead of actually informing you about it and letting us talk about it."
very well put.
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>>25402953
well yea, I agree that we need to say something. To soften the blow once Amanda finds out.
But, I don't think we should be blunt as you wrote.
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>>25402962
except for the first FTB with Mina. Where Brooklyn was a total sub.
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>>25402957
Sounds to me like an excellent reason to reinforce her submissive behavior towards us.
>>25402980
Wrong. Players have player him as a strait dom. OP has had some serious issues honoring that, which I tend to try to ignore to promote harmony.
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>>25402986
Fair enough, I welcome dialog alterations suggestions.
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>>25402962
Give me the link to the FTBs, I haven't kept up with them. That said I think we've played Brooklin as more sexually aggressive than dominant, but if I'm wrong I'm wrong. And we'll have to be much more careful about picking partners since the two of us are probably the only posters here that are fine with breaking other succubi willynilly or making heavy use of Suggestion.
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>>25403019
I said in the threads. OP has had some serious issues following his own instructions on how to modify Brooklyn's behavior.
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>>25403037
This is true. Let me look up the references.
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>>25403007
maybe
"The fact is that as your teacher I have enormous authority over you, to the point where some others have questions whether or not I am exploiting you. We should try to keep things a bit less frisky, until you can become one of us and I can tell you everything... "

Let's avoid the 'friend' talk and put less emphasis on her not being a succubus.
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[1/2]

“Well I best be off then.” you say as you finish your soup and reach into your dress pockets for some coin to pay for the meal. “Thanks for the time out Mina. Your company and advice was just what I needed.”

“Oh sure! No problem!” Mina happily says as she puts down her bowl. “...Oh! Until you’re in private, remember to act as if nothing’s wrong! You don’t want to make a scene, believe me.”

“Doubly so since she’ll be the talk of the town.” you reply. “Anyways, see ya later Mina.”

“Sayonara!” Mina says waving as you leave.

******

After changing into your Sara persona, you head on over to the Richardson bath house, arriving just in time to see Amanda leaving the counter behind.

“Oh! Lady Amanda! It seems as if I’ve caught you just in time!” you say as you enter the bath house.

“Ah yes! Lady Sara! Impeccable timing indeed!” Amanda says as she walks over to you, looking at your clothing. “...I never had a chance to notice it before, but your clothing is certainly...”

“...Ah! Sorry! I... Used to be a maid at one point and my employer let me keep my clothing...” you say holding out the hem of your dress to showcase it.
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[2/2]

“No. There is nothing wrong with the style. I find the modified maid dress to be rather unique in it’s own way.” Amanda says.

“Ha... Thanks... I’ve always been somewhat nervous about this dress but it’s nice to hear some reassurance on it!” You reply to Amanda.

“So Lady Sara, have you been feeling rather stressed lately? I could get us one of the deluxe private bathrooms if you want. My family doesn’t mind me using them so long as I clean up and there are no customers waiting to use them. But only if you bring your ‘friends’ too.” Amanda says blushing at the last part. “Erika and Leona are out at the moment, doing some activities together before Erika is whisked away on... her horrid training program.”

...Friends? ...Oh right, last time there was some wine and darkness tentacles involved. You wonder if should go to the deluxe bath area or to Amanda’s room.”
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>>25403045
Here was one instance.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24848112/#p24851749
Note the instructions, then what actually happened.
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>>25403077
Sure I can bring my friends.
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>>25403077
I think that can be arranged *predatory smile*
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>>25403077
Her room so we can have an honest fucking talk with her and let her know the truth about us fucking other people.

Preemptive vite against tentacle fucking her as I'm guessing some idiots will think that dominating her is the right way to do this.
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>>25403110
I suppose that means we have to be blunt. I WANT TO DOM HER.
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>>25403110
So, what you're saying is that our character is to some extent limited by what the QM is willing to write into this quest? I don't find that particularly unreasonable.
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>>25403134
I agree with this. We are here to have a talk.
this >>25403117
>>25403125
doesn't help and will send a wrong signal for once we start talking.
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>>25403150
Right. What if, bear with me now, what if Sand doesn't really want to get into BDSM mindsets or role play?
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>>25402557
Almost everyone believes that. If Amanda actually had sex with somebody she knew was a succubus and then thought she was in a serious monogamous relationship... I don't even know what to say. We've not even been on any dates or outings that could be construed as dates or anything. We teach her and we fuck her.
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>>25403151
Honestly, I think he just keeps forgetting that we want to do that
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>>25403077
Head to her room. And turn on aura sight.
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>>25403177
Then he shouldn't have promised to do just that a few times?
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>>25403177
>want to get into BDSM mindsets or role play?
to be fair, neither do I want for this to go into heavy dom/sub relationship.
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>>25403150
I WANT TO DOM HER AS WELL.
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>>25403181
This is basically why I still have no idea why we're having a "talk."
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>>25403077
Honest talk. Then dominate sexy time.
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>>25403125
>>25403117
Dear fucking god no. Stop thinking with your dicks for once. We have stuff to talk to her about, and in case you are curious fucking her with tentacles won't make the "I've been screwing other girls" talk go over better.
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>>25403150
Sillyness aside. I've always supported Brooklyn as a more confident and dominate character, both in the bedroom and out. Please take note and write accordingly OP, as the desire has been mentioned several times.
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I assume that we have taught her how Succubus feed? If not, that is certainly going to be a deal breaker in regards to changing her...
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>>25403211
But if we can't trust her to act independently under her own initiative shell be much less powerful as an ally later on. And we'll have to deal with all the damn outbursts and punishment play and... It isn't worth the amount of time we'd end up sinking into it at the expense of every other relationship and freaking long term project we have to work on.
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>>25403181
fair point.
It occurs to me that rather then us just speaking AT her, we should first ASK her some things... like how she views us, etc.

>>25403134
Why is her room better for a private serious talk?
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>>25403256
What, pulling ambient emotional aura out of the atmosphere from large crowds or people in highly emotional states? Why would that be a deal breaker? And she knows about that and the other methods already.
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>>25403250

I've been trying to. When Brooklyn was with Mina the first time, he was still somewhat in shock over his body still and wasn't comfortable with it. Come the second one, he was learning some things and took some initiative there.

I planned for Brooklyn to be more in the dominant position in the 3 and 4 FTB's when I get around to writing them. It was my intention from the start of those.
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>>25403019
Yeah, fuck you two. Go rape things someplace else.
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>>25403267
Her room is apace of personal security, but I suppose the entire bathhouse probably is as well. Still it's a bit more private if she reacts badly since she won't have to walk back to her room afterwards.
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>>25403019
I am all for being a more alpha personality, but using suggestion to get sex is rape. And that is wrong!
Also, breaking other succubi is even worse then rape, and doing it for sex? that is just the lowest.
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>>25403301
Ok, that completely changes how I'm approaching this.

Yep, we're dumping Mina. Glad we got her advice.

Oh, OP. Please tell me that you aren't running relationships realistically with regard to time commitment. I mean, yeah we can magic up whatever restraints or devise facsimiles we want, but how likely are any subs we acquire to become painfully dependent on us and frequently require...correction?
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>>25403370
Suggestion to get them to sub, not for initiating sex. As for breaking? Yep, slavery is one of the few things I believe truly, categorically evil reguardless of what form it comes in. That said, this is a quest and not real life.
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>>25403390
...
I disagree with this whole 'acquire subs' mentality for Brooklyn.
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>>25403430
And I agree with it.
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>>25403430
Yeah, same here. Doesn't fit the character.
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>>25403301
I think you did a good job of it. It seemed obvious that the discomfort was from the gender bending.
Also the unexpected emotions when we went on a date with that one guy...

What is a FTB?
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>>25403430
Its the direction we've been moving the character in for a long time. I support
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>>25403390
Hi, please go find another quest to shit in.
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>>25403456
>What is a FTB?
fade to black.
refering to pastebin sex scenes Sandact wrote.
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You give a small smile as you reply to Amanda. “I-I’ll see if I can send word up to them of course! B-But for now can head up to your room? I find it more conductive to set up business there.”

“Not a problem Lady Sara! Let’s head up then, shall we?” Amanda says as she leads the way up to her room.

You follow Amanda up to her room, travelling on the plush carpet on the way up to her room, still marvelling at all of the treasures just out in the open in the hallway itself.

Amanda gives a large sigh as she pulls the dress over her head, removing it once you lock the door, leaving her in her lacy white underwear. “Aaahhh... It’s so nice to be away from that front desk...”

“Is your family really strict about that?” you ask Amanda as you lock the door.

“Not really, but it helps show interest in the company when father decides to pass on the company.” Amanda says putting her dress into a laundry basket, before a blush comes across her face. “S-So Lady Sara... S-Shall I get the wine?”

...Remember Brooklyn... You came here for a talk... Not ravaging the teenager whose shown to go on for hours...
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>>25403451
We've literally been moving in the direction of increased dominance from thread one. I think this guy is taking it to far, but anyone who is surprised by this hasn't been paying attention.
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Sandact, considering this is basically a fetish quest, you should provide a firmer hand on where you want this to go.
Although, for a fetish quest it has been surprisingly tame
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>>25403475
Have the talk with our prospective sub.
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>>25403475
"I think it is about time we talked about us. Perhaps a brew of tea would be better. Please relax, there is nothing to worry about."

Summon soligram butlers and similar while talking.
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>>25403493
>We've literally been moving in the direction of increased dominance from thread one. I think this guy is taking it to far
And here is the crux... we have been moving towards being a dom with a bunch of friends with benefits.
But that one guy... he basically wants to rape and enslave women. That isn't what being a dom is.
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>>25403497

At times I wonder. I want to leave things open and let people discuss how things go. I'm afraid if I show too much input/display things too heavy handed, I might get decried for railroading and such.
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>>25403430
I like the idea of Brooklyn being sexually dominate, and we've been moving in that direction nearly unanimously for a long time, but the idea that we would carry these people around on a leash or something is silly.
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I also disagree with the whole sub\dom thing. You can have a perfectly loving harem without it being master\slave. This ISN'T BFQ where the op is predisposed to it.
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>>25403497
I have to agree.
So far I have been playing this (and thinking of it) as a fantasy RPG quest, with fetish elements. (the fetish part isn't the focus, it's just there)
>>25403493
Playing in the direction of a more confident person, yes. Going full on dom/sub all the way? No we haven't.
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>>25403493
And then there's blithering retard #1 who wants to dump Mina and cut off ties with anyone who doesn't obey us utterly. For fuck's sake people.
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>>25403514
Agree with tea, but make it yourself.
But the dialog is a bit too formal.. how about "lets have some tea".
Then while having tea, ask her what she thinks about us, and how she views our relationship

Because before deciding how to approach it we should get some more info
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>>25403524
Then lets agree to be sexually dominate and not rape and enslave women.
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>>25403535
I honestly enjoy brooklyn being a switch.
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>>25403565
Works for me.
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>>25403567
me too. With more predisposition for top parts. As far as sex is concerned.
In actual life, I am all up for Brooklyn being a confident person.
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>>25403493
Casually breaking hearts and hurting people along the way is definitely not the way to go. I really don't have anything against a lot of subs, but Brooklyn is more the type to carefully and gently charm people into becoming subs rather than coldly cutting of the relationships for others to grow.
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>>25403565
This seems like a reasonable compromise.
>>25403567
I prefer full dom.
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>>25403554
I'm ok with this.
Oh do tell her to put on some clothes first.
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>>25403592
I more meant the apparent surprise that we've been trying to become more dominate. It literally shows up whenever we have sex or flirt.
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I'm not sure why everyone thinks sex has to be purely about who 'tops' who. You do know it can be about give and take.... right?
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>>25403475
Ignore the anons wanting to break/sub/dom random characters and instead come clean with Amanda about your relationship issues.
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>>25403475
"Not quite yet my dear, I'll make some tea."

Busy ourself with whipping up some tea. And do >>25403554
listen to her for a bit. We're here to talk with her, not at her.

>>25403596
My problem with the people advocating domming is that so far they've shown themselves to be control freaks, try to inject it into every single relation we have, and just look at Amanda as a sub instead of that just being a facet of her and ignoring the rest in their mindless hunt for more girls to dom.
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>>25403430
Not claiming that as the mentality, I'm asking if it happens how badly is it likely to backfire.
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>>25403611
Yes, this ^
That is how I have been thinking of things during this quest.
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we need to let Amanda know that we can't have as serious relationship as she seems to indicate.

hard to think of what to say but we could start by saying, "I hope i was not sending the wrong message but i wanted to clear things up before they get too serious"
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>>25403611
Probably because they simply want to play a confident demon lord?
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>>25403686
>confident demon lord?
that can work with what he said.
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>>25403567
As do I, but the people who want her to be a dom will bitch and scream the moment Brooklyn does anything that isn't sufficiently controlling. It's actually quite annoying.

>>25403686
There's a difference between being confident, which is fine, and demanding that we make subs out of everyone and everything, and saying we ought to dump Mina because she won't be submissive. Some people are just plain stupid about it.
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>>25403565
I agree.
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>>25403728
yup, I don't really WANT slaves. In the bedroom or out of it. That sorta thinking is pure Pride Demon. And I kinda see Brooklyn as not wanting to mimic them.
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>>25403728
I agree with everything in this post.
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>>25403565
I agree. In some ways I'd prefer to play a pride demon. But being dominate in the bedroom is fine with me. I'll shut up about everything else.
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>>25403728
Amen. This shit has gone well past annoying at this point.
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personally I am a huge dom and yet the relationship with mina has shown me its enjoyable to be a sub sometimes. She is my gateway drug to switching.
Thing is, some people seem to confuse who is tops in bed with things like rape, or a desire to treat people like objects.
Subs do not want to be treated like collecting cards, they want to be swept off their feet.
And Sub =! part of a member of a harem necessarily.
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>>25403565
I just wish people would just stop insulting everyone. I think these people, seem to be less insulting towards their opponents, so I support their desires. That way we might actually see some civility return.
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“...I’d... Prefer if we had some tea at first. We need to discuss a few things and I feel tea would be better for the occasion.” you say as you head for the tea set in Amanda’s room.

“I-Is anything wrong Lady Sara?” Amanda asks as she sits on the bed.

“Hm... Well... One thing I’ve been meaning to ask as of lately. Just... how exactly do you view the relationship we have as of currently?” you ask Amanda as you put on some tea.

“Hm....” Amanda seems to think for a few seconds before actually replying. “If I had to say, I’d say it’d be a step above the normal student/teacher relationship. I... Admit that you’re probably too shy and not very confident most of the time...”

Duh. That’s how you act as Sara.

“But when we’re alone, you certainly do seem to know how to act. You’re confident in what you know what to do. I... admit I first wanted to sleep with you as I’ve never been with a woman, and the idea of engaging in sexual activities with someone I had suspicions of being Succubus. You... Didn’t use any sort of magic on me right?” Amanda asks.

“Heavens no!” you reply while taking the hot water off the burner. “The only magic I did was physical magic with you the second time, but that’s it!”

“Good, then I guess I don’t need to second guess these feelings any longer.” Amanda says with a sigh of relief. “I feel... as if we could have something Lady Sara. I... admit that I am somewhat shocked to find that I’m a bisexual, as I’ve never really been attracted to women before, but with you... I feel as if I can learn so much. I do enjoy the time we spend together Lady Sara, regardless of what it may be.”
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>>25403842
This would be a hilarious moment to pop the I'M ACTUALLY BORN A MAN Bomb on her. But then we'd need to throw the brooklyn bomb on her too, and basically be completely open and honest with her. Minus the queens of course.
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>>25403842
Get her a cup of tea, wait for her to take a sip before we continue.

"And I do enjoy my time with you Amanda, and I would still enjoy it even if we weren't sleeping together. You're a charming young lady and incredibly intelligent in addition to being attractive as can be.

I do have something to tell you. As you may have noticed I keep my private life concealed from you, both for your safety and for mine. But there's something about that which you deserve to know, and I shouldn't have kept from you like I did. This ones my fault, and I should have let you know more before we came to this point.

I'm not monogamous with you, and I should have at the very least let you know about the others who I'm sleeping with and who I may sleep with in the future.

I'm sorry."
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>>25403954
Mostly this. I assume we do have a strong sense of affection for her (doubtful that we have anything approaching romantic love, but whatevs) though. We are teacher and star student after all.
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>>25403954
I do support revealing this. But we need to smith some proper wording for this.
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>BDSM everywhere

Honestly, I find power-exchange relationships bizarre and alienating, at _best_. 'Confident' I'm more than okay with. 'Dominating', not so much.

>>25403982
Probably about the best we can do, yes.
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>>25404017
I figured the opposite. I think Brooklyn is against casual flings but for multiple serious relationship. Incidentally, this is the opposite of Mina's view. I also think it is more moral.
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>>25404138
That is a good point. and I would like to see if it's possible.
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>>25404138
I honestly like this view better. Its a good basis for a polyamourous group.
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>>25404138
>>25404163
Brooklyn also has less experience with flings, relationships, friends with benefits, etc
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>>25404138
I am also only for serious relationships.
Multiple serious relationships are good but they should be serious.
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>>25404138
And you've hit on the crux of my personal dislike of Mina.
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>>25404325
While I disagree with mina's view on this, I do not DISLIKE her for it.
And she is open to a serious relationship, she just has flings on the side
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>>25404356
I dislike her for the flings, because of sympathy for the people she is flinging with. Not alex, but the poor schmucks she drains. That and her touting her philosophy to the heavens.
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>>25404356
Pretty much my thoughts.
And who knows, maybe one day Brooklyn will be so awesome in bed, that anyone else won't compare for her. (and decides that she only wants Brooklyn)
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>>25404406
They want a great fuck, she wants a fun fuck, they go off, fuck, have a great time, and in the morning they're more tired than they otherwise would have been but completely okay other than that.

I really fail to see a problem with that, she isn't deceiving them, saying she loves them, lying, promising that it's any more than a quick fuck. They're both adults getting their rocks off.
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>>25404468
From what she's said in the past, I highly doubt she makes sure they are single before making a move.
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>>25404406
Not really sure why you feel sympathy for them. I mean, they are getting exactly what they want out of the affair and they'll recover from the draining in a day or two.
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>>25404500
And that reflects on Mina or the person sleeping with her?
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>>25404517
Given that she has emotional control and suggestion at good and that's the only thing we've seen her doing that she could plausibly be using it for? Her.
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>>25404406
Poor schmucks? She doesn't lead them on, she picks up a couple of guys who never met her before for a GANG BANG.
And her tauting her philosophy? that is her being open and UPFRONT about it.
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[1/2]

You prep some tea carefully before making a soligram tray and bring it over to Amanda. "And I do enjoy my time with you Amanda, and I would still enjoy it even if we weren't sleeping together. You're a charming young lady and incredibly intelligent in addition to being attractive as can be, but I do have something to tell you.”

“Oh? Which is?” Amanda asks, not taking your tea at the moment and instead listening raptly to you.

“ As you may have noticed I keep my private life concealed from you, both for your safety and for mine. But there's something about that which you deserve to know, and I shouldn't have kept from you like I did. This ones my fault, and I should have let you know more before we came to this point.” you say to her.

Amanda looks onto you with a focus in her eyes, staring intently at you as she awaits for your answer.

You can feel the pressure on you as if a large man is pushing you and your shoulders down. A sense of dread from you and fear of what could happen begins to fill your mind.

Come on Brooklyn... You can’t back down right now. Just... Gather your wits and come out with it.

“I'm... not monogamous with you, and I should have at the very least let you know about the others who I'm sleeping with and who I may sleep with in the future.” you say giving a small bow in front of her. “I'm sorry."
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[2/2]

“O-Oh... I... I-I see...” Amanda replies as she begins to process this information. You know she has per poker face still on, but even then you can see small signs of it cracking, showing her feelings proper on what one would expect here. “I-I guess that... Shouldn’t come as a shock to me to hear that Succubi hardly ever take one partner. B-But then all those times that we... W-was that real? Do you actually care or am I just some sort of snack for you?”

...Alright there was that one time during the second time you took a *tiny* bit of her aether, but that was more being you caught up in the moment rather than getting food. Turning on your aura sight, you can see a mixture of colours such as Light Green (Distrust), Brown (Bitter), Dark Blue (Suspicion), Orange (Fear), Deep Red (Lust), and Bright Red (Anger).
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>>25404539
she is a shape shifter hottie offering a free gangbang, she doesn't need to use mind control for it and I doubt she would condone such an act.
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>>25404539
We've nly seen her use crowd control for passive feeding, not hooking up. I very much doubt she needs magic to pick someone up for the night, and I doubt she would pursue someone that seemed uncomfortable or uninterested.
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"Just a snack? Never. Amanda I truly, deeply care for you, every moment I had with you was completely real to me. That is why it wouldn't be right to lie to you about my intentions. If you are willing to be with me despite my inability to stay with a single woman I would quite honestly love to be something more then merely student and teacher."
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>>25404556
I care immensely about you. You are not a snack to me. I would have to drain you dry 8 times over in order to fill my aether reserves, literally. Trust me, if I was draining you for aether like that, you would be exhausted for hours to days depending on how heavily I drained you. I gain my aether by emotional feeding, usually by hanging out in a rowdy tavern or watching the Monday game."
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>>25404634
i am ok with this.
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>>25404642
I disagree with this, it puts too much emphasis on our abilities and sounds like "If I wanted you dead, you would be dead." kind of thing.
And that is not how you make relationships.
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>>25404634
Maybe add something about how we never really intended this to happen.
>>25404669
Its logic based, but a useful sidepiece to a heartfelt appeal if she is doubting.
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>>25404556
Sit down next to her. Hold her hand, don't go any further than that.

"There are some monogamous, or even chaste, Succubi, but I'm not among them.

But I definitely care about you, I don't feed off of you, most of my feeding comes from staying in rowdy emotional crowds of people, I have never used magic to seduce you, and you aren't just a snack to me. You're charming, lovely, intelligent, and my star student. I do care for you, and any who would bring you harm will have to answer to me. And that's why I'm so sorry, because I was horny, we fucked, and I never told you until now. You deserved to know, and I didn't tell you.

Amanda, all of it was real, all of it was wonderful, and because of that it would have been wrong of me to keep on lying about it no matter how much I enjoyed it.

It's just that I also deeply care for others, there are others who I am very close with and who I either am sleeping with, or am likely to sleep with in the future."
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>>25404728
that one is good as well
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You sit down next to Amanda, trying your best to be reassuring as you reach out for her hand slowly. "There are some monogamous, or even chaste, Succubi, but I'm not among them. But I definitely care about you, I don't feed off of you, most of my feeding comes from staying in rowdy emotional crowds of people, I have never used magic to seduce you, and you aren't just a snack to me. You're charming, lovely, intelligent, and my star student. I do care for you, and any who would bring you harm will have to answer to me. And that's why I'm so sorry, because I was horny, we fucked, and I never told you until now. You deserved to know, and I didn't tell you. Amanda, all of it was real, all of it was wonderful, and because of that it would have been wrong of me to keep on lying about it no matter how much I enjoyed it. It's just that I also deeply care for others, there are others who I am very close with and who I either am sleeping with, or am likely to sleep with in the future."

A few tears begins to fall down Amanda’s cheeks as she begins to hear your speech, her hands trying to wipe them away. “B-But... I-I thought we had something s-s-special together... Why do you need to go to others?”

(Sorry for the delay. Since I felt this was an important subject I wanted to make sure everyone was on board with a choice before updating. Catchpa: chaste rogtnpu. ...What)
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>>25404728

I like all of it except the "I'm sorry" part. Save anything like that until she gives us reason to use it or we'll sound like we did it expecting her to be hurt. Instead say something like, "I enjoyed our time together, but I felt we needed to have this talk before going any farther. I would never want to hurt you."
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>>25404728
This is good.
Any way of adding in "if I really viewed you as just a snack I wouldn't be apologizing"
and "I didn't feed on you, and I also don't do sex for nourishment, it is a lot more effort but a succubi can get all the energy one needs without "
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>>25404962
>>25404966
note the update... >>25404931
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>>25404995
it happened while I was typing. I have seen it after i posted
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>>25404931

We do have something special and the others I'm with I started with before I met you. The thing is, they are special to me too. I enjoy being with you. I enjoy talking with you and I love your smile. The reason I told you this is because you are special to me. Because I see us getting closer then I originally thought we would, and I want to be honest with you.
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>>25404931
You are special Amanda. I truly deeply care for you. You are unique and wonderful, and never let yourself doubt that. As for the others, I think that is just who I am. I could make excuses, there are plenty of things that would make it sound better, from the hopes that some place on me, and the stress that those expectations generate. From the array of enemies set before me, Valvosa, Celestia and the one they both fear. To the simple prideful excuse that I am a demon lord of lust. But that would be what they are, excuses. Also, not much of a lord anyway.
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It was special for me. Deeply so. As to why I cannot settle for a single woman. I don't know. My heart is a mystery to me. But I do know this. I care deeply for you and I hate that I'm hurting you.
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>>25404931

"I know that love is not a finite resource, to be doled out here and there, to be competed for and fought over, that can only be truly realized when the love of one has been monopolized by another. Love is infinite, Amanda. The more love you share, the more love you receive. Love need not be limited to between two people, but can be shared amongst any number of people you choose."
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>>25404931
Keep on holding her hand, don't go further for now.

"Amanda, what we have is special, you are wonderful, and I don't want you to think that this is your fault, or that you are in any way not special.

As for why, it's not because I wanted to hurt anyone, despite how it's turned out. That's the last thing I wanted, and I screwed it up. I think the reason is because I care for others very much, in very different ways, and connect with them on an intimate level. I deeply care for you, you're the best student I have ever had, you're brilliant, strong, determined, and beautiful, and no matter who else I care for the feelings I have for you aren't lessened in the least. But there are others who I love for different but just as important reasons, who I care for because of their bravery, kindness, and helping me through things I could never have gone through alone.

It's because my heart expresses itself for more than one person and wants to see all of them happy. And in doing so I've hurt one of the ones I hold dear.

Also, to be completely honest, I really enjoy sex."
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>>25405151
I like this sentiment... cause really, its not about the sex.
But it comes off a bit corny.
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[1/2]

"Amanda, what we have is special, you are wonderful, and I don't want you to think that this is your fault, or that you are in any way not special. As for why, it's not because I wanted to hurt anyone, despite how it's turned out. That's the last thing I wanted, and I screwed it up. I think the reason is because I care for others very much, in very different ways, and connect with them on an intimate level. I deeply care for you, you're the best student I have ever had, you're brilliant, strong, determined, and beautiful, and no matter who else I care for the feelings I have for you aren't lessened in the least. But there are others who I love for different but just as important reasons, who I care for because of their bravery, kindness, and helping me through things I could never have gone through alone.” Seeing that both her hands are busy wiping her eyes, you instead put your hand on her shoulder and squeeze it tenderly. “I know that love is not a finite resource, to be doled out here and there, to be competed for and fought over, that can only be truly realized when the love of one has been monopolized by another. Love is infinite, Amanda. The more love you share, the more love you receive. Love need not be limited to between two people, but can be shared amongst any number of people you choose. My heart expresses itself for more than one person and wants to see all of them happy, and in doing so I've hurt one of the ones I hold dear. Again, I deeply apologize for what I’ve withheld from you.”

Amanda does a few more sniffles as she wipes her eyes. “You... Are you a member of that Church of Pamille or something? Y-you sound like them...”
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[2/2]

Ah yes, you’ve heard of this church before, but only in rumors as once again the Pride Demon censorship prevents accurate information with Celestia marring whatever is left over. You know they’re an a religion which is somewhat centered on Succubi. They claim it is only a house of lust, but you have a inkling that it is far more than just mere lust, especially now that Amanda has dropped some information on it for you.

“I... Wouldn’t know exactly. Remember I’m not that knowledgeable on Succubi in general, and you probably know more than I do about the Church with your connections.” you tell her. “The only thing I’m doing is telling my feelings to you. Nothing more or less.”

Amanda continues to cry a little bit more, a bit more softly this time.

“Ssshhh... That’s right... Let it out.” you say as you rub her shoulder. “We do have something special and the others I'm with I started with before I met you. The thing is, they are special to me too. I enjoy being with you. I enjoy talking with you and I love your smile. The reason I told you this is because you are special to me. Because I see us getting closer then I originally thought we would, and I want to be honest with you.”

“L-Lady Sara... I-I’m glad that I spent t-time with you but when I think o-of others with you...” Amanda says, stopping due to a lump in her throat.

“Jealous, yes.” you reply as you gently squeeze her shoulder and rub it.
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>>25405595

"You know, some beds can hold more than two people..."
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>>25405719
*facepalm
Too soon...Oh why do I bother?
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>>25405595
I understand how you feel. And it is my fault alone. But since I first met you and the others, I promised I would tell you the truth to the best of my ability and to the extent of my knowledge. And you know that I would never knowingly lie to you. You deserve that much and more.
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>>25405719
way way way too soon.
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>>25405595
"I don't blame you for your jealously. Not in the slightest. and know that whether or not you continue our relationship will have no bearing on me teaching you or turning you into a succubus. I won't claim to be a saint, but I'd like to think that I am a good person. I try my best anyway."
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>>25405595

Do you want me to give you some time to think things through? We can talk about this more later if you want, or we can talk now. Whatever's easiest for you. * comforting hug*
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>>25405595
"And it's perfectly reasonable and alright for you to feel that way. It'd be unfair of me to expect you to act differently from who you are, just like I can't help who I am.

Shh, it's alright. Just let it all out, I'm here for you.

Remember, Amanda, me caring for you isn't dependent on sex. You will still be my beloved student, I will still want to spend time with you, to teach you, to give you opportunities.

Amanda, at some point would you like to meet the others who I hold dear? I think that you'd like them."
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honestly I think we had enough speeches for now... just cuddle.
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>>25405719
No
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[1/2]

You really can’t blame Amanda for feeling like this. You’re somewhat jealous of Alex for having sex with Mina all the time. ...And... Also actually having a real penis to do her with.

"It's perfectly reasonable and alright for you to feel that way. It'd be unfair of me to expect you to act differently from who you are, just like I can't help who I am. Remember, Amanda, me caring for you isn't dependent on sex. You will still be my beloved student, I will still want to spend time with you, to teach you, to give you opportunities. Know that whether or not you continue our relationship will have no bearing on me teaching you or turning you into a succubus. I won't claim to be a saint, but I'd like to think that I am a good person. I try my best anyway." you tell Amanda while rubbing her shoulder.

Amanda doesn’t really do any replies other than weak sobs. She appears to have somewhat recovered at least, as the sobs are coming more and more slowly.

“Ssshhh... That’s it... Let it all out...” you say reassuring her. “Would you like to meet the others who I hold dear at some point? I think that you'd like them."
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[2/2]

“I... I admit I am curious... at least Lady Sara...” Amanda replies weakly as she leans in against you a bit more.

“Very well... I shall take you them sometime, but now... Let us just rest for a little bit hm?” you ask taking out your wings and putting one over Amanda’s back.

“Yes... I am somewhat tired...” Amanda says laying down in bed with you.

You spend the next bit of time cuddling with Amanda. An hour goes by at the very least with you cuddling a merchant girl in your embrace. She puts on a tough front, but Erika was right in that she does have a soft shell underneath it all.

(Anything you want to say or do with Amanda? It is like 6:30 PM, so you still have loads of time before your plan to take the twins to the Queen’s)
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>>25406102
We rarely make use of our Performance skill, let's change that.

Cuddle her close, and sing. Sing her some soothing quiet songs, sing about love, sing the blues, sing some happier songs. Just sing to her.
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>>25406198
sounds good.
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>>25406198
seconding
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>>25406198
This works.
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>>25406198

Fourthing
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>>25406198
Darn. That's sappy as hell, but it still pulls at my heart strings. Yeah, I'll support that.
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>>25406198
csappy as fuck, but go for it.
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Deciding to help Amanda calm down in her own way, you begin to sing her a song you remember from your own childhood. Both a story and a song your father used to tell you before going to bed every night. A tale of a group of brave warriors, about to set off on the final battle to determine the fate of the world itself. The group of warriors will never give up, for they have strong wills and hearts that are filled with great love. Every one of them is willing to sacrifice their very lives in order to carve a new path for the future, one filled with the hopes and dreams of everyone in the universe itself...

“...L-Lady Sara... A... Are you crying?” Amanda asks you as you begin to sing the song.

You stop singing for a second, reaching up to your eyes and wiping away the tears. “A-Ah! I’m sorry!”

“No... Don’t be...” Amanda says as she uses a finger to wipe away your tears. “This song must certainly mean something to you if you have such a reaction.”

“My... father used to sing this song to me every night before I went to bed.” you tell Amanda. “It... It was his personal favorite, but even now I don’t know anything much about it other than what he told me.”

“...I somewhat envy for you caring for your father that much...” Amanda replies.

(I assumed this took about 15 minutes. Anything else?)
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>>25406102
Offer Amanda tea.
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>>25406583
"I did love him, but he's been gone for a long time. I've gotten used to it by now, but I still miss him.

But enough about my troubles. Do you want some more tea sweetheart?"
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>>25406583
short timeskip pleasant times with Amanda involving tea

and non-exploding solidogram bunnies/hamsters
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>>25406583

have a chat with her about the politics of her family. I want to know if we can help her.
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>>25406859
now is probably not the best time..?
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>>25406583
Probably just timeskip, pleasant conversation over tea. See if we can get her to smile at something stupid. Like how EVERY TIME we summon one of the Queens to meet a prospective new succubus, they are ALWAYS in their pajamas.
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>>25406859
Not a bad idea. Don't mention her uncle (the one she didn't want to ask for the key to the underground water reservoir) but make a note if anything new comes out about him. That whole exchange with her gave me an odd vibe.
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[1/2]

“I did love him, but he's been gone for a long time. I've gotten used to it by now, but I still miss him.” You say wiping away your tears. “But enough about my troubles. Do you want some more tea sweetheart?"

“Certainly! I’d love some tea Lady Sara.” Amanda says as she climbs up out of bed.

Over the course of the next half hour or so, you spend some time with Amanda mainly discussing some casual things, including some gossip on Erika and Leona. For one, Erika always seemed to be abusing her shapeshifting powers to have breasts just as big as Leona did. Amanda admits she finds such a thing humorous. Granted that even Amanda is jealous of Leona’s body, she does find it extremely odd that Erika goes through such a thing. You wonder why, but Amanda hazards that her best guess is that it makes Erika appear more “womanly” if anything else.

“Praytell, did you do a similar thing as Lady Erika?” Amanda asks you.

“Hm... Unlike Erika I’m comfortable with my body, but... Yes I do admit that when I first learned how to shapeshift that increasing my bust size was the first thing I did.” you say to Amanda while sipping tea before looking at the clock in her room. “...Oh my... It’s time for me to get going it seems...”
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[2/2]

“Prior engagements?” Amanda asks.

“Regrettably. But I thank for Amanda for hearing me out at the very least.” you tell her.

“I... Still need some time about the entire ordeal.” Amanda tells you.

“But of course.” you reply while shapeshifting your demonic traits away. You head on over to Amanda and give her a hug. “Still, I’m glad we’re in some other relationship other than ‘get out you cheating bitch’.”

“If it wasn’t for your tongue then we may be in such a thing.” Amanda says giving you a hug back. “Be safe Lady Sara.”

“Don’t worry Amanda, I will be.” you tell her as you leave her room.

It is about 8:15 PM now. You should probably swing by and pick up the twins, but this will be your last chance to do any last minute tasks before bringing the noble girls over to the shrine itself.

(Any last minute things to do?)
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>>25407265
nope, time to help our two other paramours step into the wonderful world of Succubuss.
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>>25407265
I personally can't think of anything important, make sure we have a pile of tea leaves with us so we can make tea at the shrine.

What's our Aether level at? If it's low we could spend the last bit of our time at a rowdy place to get enough to give them a bit of a snack as they're likely to be hungry afterwards. Finding bandits for them to snack on would be more difficult.
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>>25407265
how much aether do we have. I understand they'll be mighty hungry.
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>>25407328
Are we bringing 'food'?
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>>25407357
I don't think so, though once we sate them we could take them on a hunt.
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>>25407357
It'll be harder to pick up bandits on the way as we've kinda been wiping them out.
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>>25407265
>Any last minute things to do.
Find a compelling reason to delay the twins departure, but given that we're probably going to need to devote more time than I expected to prepping for Amanda's transformation, developing our newly restructured relationship with the girl, evaluating and teaching Linda, prepping for the gala or whatever that court event Ada invited us to was, training our light magic, and half a dozen other things I don't feel like writing down...well, it might be fore the best that the twins are leaving the day after tomorrow.
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>>25407323
>>25407328

I put such information on Brooklyn's character sheet itself.
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>>25407468
Yeah, 22%, we should probably fill up a bit before we go. Thankfully it's the right time for bars to be extremely rowdy so quick pit stop there, and grab what we can before we have to go. Won't be much, but it'll have to be enough.
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>>25407468
does that include the feeding we got from the aftermath of the Langley attack. I seem to remember you forgetting about that, not sure if you updated to reflect that.
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if we had enough aether ourselves then rather then letting them kill a bandit for their first drink we could provide it... it is slower due to our resistance so it would require quite a lot of kissing...
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>>25407503
Okay, actually 42%, that's a fair bit better. Enough to give both the Twins a good 10%, and then we take them out for one sort of meal or another.
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>>25407544
I'm sure Mina would happily pitch in. Whether you want her to or not.
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>>25407765
Mina can hold up score cards in the background.
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[1/2]

Given that you’re somewhat low on aether and you don’t feel like staring at people as if they’re sacks of food, you decide to head on over to the bar in order to enjoy some feeding before you leave.

The Adamant Door is as lively as ever with all of the people inside of it. Still, you mainly stick to yourself and just grab a mug of ale for yourself while brushing off any sort of hit a guy makes on you. The ambient emotions in the room definitely make for a good meal over the course of an hour, but you often wonder if there are any other ways to maintain your aether level.

After that, you heard on over to the Red Fox Inn to collect the girls. The night is colder than usual out, and it is only due to your cold resistance that you’re wearing what you are now rather than bundling up as much as possible. Those small lessons you had with Ada on water control certainly helped out.

You walk over to the twins room, adjust your hat before knocking on the door.

“Who is it?” Katlin/Stacy calls out. You can’t tell which one.
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[2/2]

“It’s me.” you call out through the door.

You can hear the door unlocking a second later, with Stacy holding it open. “Is it time?”

You can only nod in agreement.

“I-I-Is this really it?” Katlin asks as she sits on the bed, fiddling with her hands.

“Indeed so.” reply to the girls.

“Oh... Oh...” Katlin says as she begins to fidget with her hands more and more. “T-This is the last bit of time we’ll ever spend as human beings. I... I don’t know what to think. I-I mean we’ve been humans for a little over 16 years, but... But this all ends tonight...”

“Forgive her. She’s been like this for the past few hours.” Stacy says sighing.
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>>25408136
It's okay. If at any time either of you wants to back out, we can stop. Well, until we reach our destination. There's no turning back after that.
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>>25408136
*Hug her* it will be okay.
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>>25408136
"It's quite alright, it's natural to be a bit nervous."

Pull them both into hugs and give them gentle smooches on the cheek.

"Remember Katlin, just because you aren't human in a technical scholarly sense doesn't change who you are, everything that makes you who you are will remain, you'll just also have horns, a tail, and some other various goodies."
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>>25408136
and tomorrow you'll be the same as you have been all this time, a little closer to you sister perhaps, what you'll eat will be a little different, and you'll have more control over you life, but you'll be you in every way that matters.
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>>25408136
Smile at Stacy, tell her " it's fine." and go sit next to her sister. Put an arm around the worried teen "it's ok to be nervous Kaitlin, in some ways it's a big change bit here's what you need to remeber, even if your about to become something other than human you are still going to be you, Kaitlin. And that will never change."
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You give a small smile as you sit down next to her, giving her a small hug and a kiss on her cheek. "It's quite alright, it's natural to be a bit nervous. Remember Katlin, just because you aren't human in a technical scholarly sense doesn't change who you are, everything that makes you who you are will remain, you'll just also have horns, a tail, and some other various goodies."

“I know! I know! It’s just... changing what you physically are...” Katlin says.

“Yes... I understand the feeling. Believe me I do.” you tell Katlin as you stroke back her hair. “Remember that you can change your mind a-”

“No. If I don’t put my foot forward now I’ll just keep second guessing myself.” Katlin says.

“Very well then. Are you ready girls?” you ask.

“We just need to put on some winter clothing and we’ll be all set Lady Brooklyn.” Stacy replies.

“Put on an extra layer. It’s cold out tonight and we have quite a walk.” you tell the twins. “And your father?”

“We go out for walks to the park and such. I don’t he’ll mind us missing for a little bit.” Stacy replies.

“Alright, let’s get going then.” you say clapping your hands.

“OK!” both Stacy and Katlin reply, the latter with more uncertainty in her voice.

(...And... I think I'm done for the night and thread. Pardon the shorter than usual thread, and that we... only got one thing really done. I'll put more in the next post)
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Again apologies for seeing we got so little done in this thread. I keep saying Old TO is around the corner, and I do mean such a thing. Literally the only thing I can think of left to do in Fort Hope is change the other noble goals, barring anything any you guys wish to do of course. Believe me, I want to get there too and tell the stories there as well.

I'll be here if you have any questions and other such things. Again, apologies but it appears I ran out of steam much earlier this day. Probably still not over last week that much.
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>>25408524
Ah well. I'm just waiting for a time when you can post more than once a week!

Still, always glad to participate when I can.
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>>25408524
Thank you for running Sand! I know you keep saying Old TO is around the corner, but while I know we'll get there soon you might need to have patience with us. We're gonna want to wrap up the Paladin and bodyguard loose ends if at all possible and start seriously prepping fort hope for the arrival of that demon shadow master that Erika saw in a prophetic dream. So don't worry if it seems like we're dragging our feet at times, we've just gotten a bit attached to this home you've built Brooklyn and want to make sure tips still here and in mostly one piece when we get back.
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>>25408467

This reminds me... did we tell the twins yet that we used to be a guy?
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>>25408524
There are things yet to do before leaving for old TO

most important is to deal with paladin.
But we also need to get mina's arm healed.
Ensure that articus is fooled
Take care of the team investigating that pedo demon's death
Say goodbye to all our friends (include that guy we dated)
Arrange a lab
Arrange our private residence at town for meeting/summoning
Convert amanda
Perhaps convert our maid

I am personally against taking any more "students". We could spend forever just converting people 1 by 1... its also not very cost efficient considering just how many free born succubi are out there we could recruit or rescue.
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>>25408940
I thought the plan was to get Mina's arm healed in Old TO if it would get the job done more quickly. Seconding the recruitment freeze after our maid. Seriously, having a personal Aide is too convenient to pass up, but we really need to focus on building our strength and that of our group of comrades instead of finding yet more bandits - which we'll soon be out of - to power the transformation spell.
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>>25409094
Well we've got the guy doing the alchemy potion stuff, if he can whip up a healing potion I'd like to take care of it before we head out on an adventure.

As for the Maid, honestly, I wouldn't turn her. She's loyal to us due to our position, but I really don't think that she'd be all that enthused about putting her life at risk on a regular basis and I really don't think we should tell her we're a Succubutt.

We've got a good thing going, don't ruin it.
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>>25409203
Honestly I agree, maybe one day in the future we turn her into an okarian using purely our own power (we need to minimize queen introductions to minimize the chance they are found and its game over!)

Okarian happens to suit her too. But at the moment I am fine with her just being a maid/mortal apprentice. She can spend her time not cleaning reading through various books on magic.
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>>25409203
I'd enlighten her. Not succubut her. She'd be loyal beyon her position without really endagering her. Its perfectly normal for a house mage to have an apprentice.
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>>25408940
don't forget we have to investigate the reason why Brooklyn found the shrine.Will be much easier with erika's mind reading.will probably have to telll her why we are investigating but a this point i think she would gladly help.
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>>25414536
>I'd enlighten her.
I don't want to enlighten anyone, it is a horrible process that lets you take their soul, it is essentially breaking a non succubi.
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I'm more for turning her into an Okarian by ourselves, but that's way down the line.
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>>25418421
Oh yea, I am the one who suggested it and I meant "in a couple of years". We have more important things to do then convert the populace into succubi one by one.

That being said, converting the entire town would give us quite a powerful base of operations :)
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>>25418966
then followed by the moment, "Why in the world is there not a single man in sight..?
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>>25418966
Wouldn't converting the entire town cause everyone to starve? I presume that a succubus's lack of aether regeneration means that their emotions don't make infinite food for other succubi, otherwise the Queens would all have much more energy to play with...
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>>25419070
>not a single man in sight

Because they all have succubus wives, silly.
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>>25419084
Yeah, it seems like mortals are the only ones that actually MAKE spirit energy. Angels and demons are parasites and they need a healthy supply of hosts.
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>>25419134
Some forms of demon, such as Sloth Demons, naturally regain Aether over time by resting. Succubi have virtually no natural regaining of Aether to balance out their ability to feed on any type of emotion as well as on raw Aether.
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>>25419169
Sloth demons seem like they would be manic-depressive, alternating between periods of inactivity and disinterest followed by intense bouts of OKAY I'M GOOD NO I'M GREAT NOW I GOTTA DO EVERYTHING.
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>>25419070
Convert only the females and mtf transgenders?
I am sure the men would be happy with succubi wives/girlfriends.
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>>25419265
Probably.

>>25419134
Speaking of which, what would the moral consensus be around building an ambient aura collection system in fort hope? Assuming we could set it so that any draining of mortals would occur below the baseline aura regeneration rate so no one would be overly affected and exclusion zones set up for the castle, our workshop and the town clinic (so anyone in need of their maximum aura capacity would have it, and so the system wouldn't mess with Doc's research), would that be more or less acceptable?

I'm not proposing this as a current project (we don't have the infrastructure, necessary knowledge, support staff, anyway of effectively camouflaging it from visiting demons or anyone with aura sight...the list, I admit, goes on). I'm just trying to gauge /tg/'s reaction to the idea. Thank you for your continuing patience.
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>>25419316
>I am sure the men would be exhausted but happy with succubi wives/girlfriends.
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>>25419432
The problem with getting a mortal consensus is that you have to openly reveal this as a succubi controlled town.
And this is a problem with the pride demons being in charge.
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>>25419587
*Moral*, not *mortal*.
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>>25419316
>I am sure the men would be happy with succubi wives/girlfriends.
>energy drain
>level loss
How about no.
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>>25419763
>energy drain
>implying it isn't harmless in moderation

>level loss
>implying there's even such a thing as levels in this quest
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>>25419763
this isn't D&D bub.
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>>25419316

Also remember there is the slight con that if a mortal has a child with a Succubi, the child will also be a Succubus.

You're probably gonna need to find a way to sustain human population levels.
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>>25421188
I did not consider that. This would be a problem indeed.
Well, unless succubi start mating with male demons instead of humans.
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>>25421227
>Well, unless succubi start mating with male demons instead of humans.
The offspring would be 50% succubus, 25% female other demon, 25% male other demon. Not only would it do nothing at all to help keep the human population up and stop all the succubutts from starving, but there's still a gender imbalance issue.
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>>25421334
1. I am aware
2. It is actually only 50%-50% if their power levels are the same-ish. Otherwise it will match the stronger parent.
3. I didn't say it would maintain the human population, it is a solution for the succubi
4. succubi can feed on other demons.
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>>25421522
PS. succubi "aether feeding" is merely stealing aether.
Succubi have a net positive gain of aether over time, it is just insignificantly low.
Feeding is only required to power their magicks not for day to day survival.
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>>25421522
>4. succubi can feed on other demons.
It's harder, and what do the other demons feed on? Where are we even going to get other demons from?

>>25421536
>Feeding is only required to power their magicks not for day to day survival.
Magic is needed for day to day survival. We need to be able to fight back against the pride demons. And then the original stupid idea:
>That being said, converting the entire town would give us quite a powerful base of operations :)
Would be moot because it would not be a powerful base at all so why the fuck are we even talking about this.
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>>25421678
>what do the other demons feed on?
Most generate their own aether at a reasonable rate. Succubi are unique in that their regeneration is insignificant.

>why the fuck are we even talking about this.
Why not talk about this? It is a funny idea.
And if we hadn't talked about it we never would have established that it is a flawed idea.

>We need to be able to fight back against the pride demons.
A town where every female is a succubi and the males provide them with aether could pack quite a punch.
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>>25421678
>>Feeding is only required to power their magicks not for day to day survival.
>Magic is needed for day to day survival. We need to be able to fight back against the pride demons. And then the original stupid idea:
Oh how clerver... but if you are going to try for a technicality, then keep in mind that the pride demons do not exterminate the succubi. Enslavement is survival, see old TO.
Clearly the talk was about the need for food to not starve to death. Succubi do not starve to death without anyone to feed on, they just run out of magic power.
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>>25422824
It would be a lot more efficient to just get the male demons to fight the pride demons themselves rather than have the succubi drain them and then use their aether to fight the pride demons. And you didn't reply to the fact that we haven't even seen a single friendly non-succubus demon yet anyway.
Humans generate lots of aether and don't use any of it. In order to be useful to us succubi need a healthy population of humans to feed on, and the humans need to not die out due to not having any human females left.

>>25422855
>Let's use a metric fuckton of aether to turn the whole of Fort Hope into succubi and give them all to the pride demons as slaves
Ok bro. Sounds like a plan.
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>>25423061
>Let's use a metric fuckton of aether to turn the whole of Fort Hope into succubi and give them all to the pride demons as slaves

First you claim that being enslaved is death, then you throw a strawman about anyone who points it out as advocating that we let ourselves be enslaved.
Stop it with the strawman arguments it makes you sound like a retarded ass hole.
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>>25424256
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>25424256
Admittedly I haven't been following this conversation particularly closely, but I really don't see the straw man argument you're talking about...then again I can barely comprehend your response. Could you please flush out your point of view a bit more? Or at least link me to a decent explanation of what you're talking about? Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.
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>>25424519
>>25424398
Here you go, summary:

>A: Succubi have a net positive gain of aether over time, it is just insignificantly low. Feeding is only required to power their magicks not for day to day survival.
>B: Magic is needed for day to day survival. We need to be able to fight back against the pride demons.
>A: if you are going to try for a technicality, then keep in mind that the pride demons do not exterminate the succubi. Enslavement is survival
>B: (fake quote rephrase) >Let's use a metric fuckton of aether to turn the whole of Fort Hope into succubi and give them all to the pride demons as slaves
>A: That is a strawman
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>>25424836
>A: We should turn every female in Fort Hope into succubi
>B: Then humans would die out and the succubi would have no food
>A: They wouldn't die with no food (THIS is a stupid technicality)
>B: But they would be useless against the pride demons so turning all of them would do more harm than good
>A: Hey guess what I have another technicality for you: They would actually survive because the pride demons would enslave them! P.S. You should stop using stupid technicalities.
>B: Ok whatever it's still a terrible idea
>A: I'm going to claim you're using a strawman while using a strawman myself (seriously, when did I claim that being enslaved was death?), and also call you names.
Try reading the whole conversation next time before jumping in. Or don't, and just fuck off.
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>>25425065
>Try reading the whole conversation
I did. You tried and failed to due to shitty reading comprehension or a desire to "win" arguments.

You take great liberties with each post, rephrasing and altering each statement to suit whatever you imagine you can refute.

None of the "quotes" in >>25425065 are actual quotes, they are all rephrasing and statement of position, except half of the statements of position are falsely representing what the person actually said. which is the definition of strawman.
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>>25424836
>>25425065

I see. Thank you both. Interestingly I tend to think of full enslavement of one's will as a fate worse than death and one that makes characters fairly uninteresting in and of themselves since they are merely extensions of there master. So yeah, by that metric both of these kind of passed the point of absurdity pretty quickly. Still, I appreciate your efforts in keeping me informed. See you the Wednesday after next.
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>>25425290
>their master
I now go to commit sudoku...
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>>25424836
4 exact quotes.
1 paraphrasing ("That is a strawman")

>>25425065
every single line is paraphrasing with a heavy bias.

for example:
>A: They wouldn't die with no food (THIS is a stupid technicality)
is heavy paraphrased version of
>Oh how clerver... but if you are going to try for a technicality, then keep in mind that the pride demons do not exterminate the succubi. Enslavement is survival, see old TO.
>Clearly the talk was about the need for food to not starve to death. Succubi do not starve to death without anyone to feed on, they just run out of magic power.
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>>25425287
Yes, that retelling was paraphrased and exaggerated. The underlying point is still true. You're taking random things out of context and finding whatever you imagine you can refute due to shitty reading comprehension or a desire to "win" arguments.

>>25425386
Are you fucking stupid those are completely different posts.
>A: They wouldn't die with no food
is a paraphrased version of
>PS. succubi "aether feeding" is merely stealing aether. Succubi have a net positive gain of aether over time, it is just insignificantly low. Feeding is only required to power their magicks not for day to day survival.
The brackets was just me saying stuff about said post.
>Hey guess what I have another technicality for you: They would actually survive because the pride demons would enslave them! P.S. You should stop using stupid technicalities.
Was the paraphrased version of
>if you are going to try for a technicality, then keep in mind that the pride demons do not exterminate the succubi. Enslavement is survival

I can't be bothered to respond to you any longer. Feel free to reply to me and "win" the argument or whatever.



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