tongue in butt

>>25083020
I love you.

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>>25083020
Oh shit son, its F/SA time!

Well... I can't think of any further questions for Rin. So I guess its time for some MOTHERFUCKING COOKING, AW YEAH!

>>25083020
Any way of finding them if they there?

>>25083199
Bloodhound time?

Yay, F/SA! Thank you, AC-Guy!

So is the recreation/movie night thing still happening?

>>25083212
Remember we promised llya we would have a relaxing evening tonight, so no running off chasing shadows with our magic nose tonight.

>>25083020
If the Rinterrogation is still on-going, then...

>person who controls the area

"What does that entail then? Are you like the city councilman equivalent in magical society in Fuyuki? Or should I treat you more like a princess or something?" (not serious)
"Do I need to file the proper paperwork and register as a magus?" (not serious)
"And since the overseer of the Grail War is dead, will another overseer be sent or is this gonna devolve into a no-holds-barred free-for-all for the time being?" (serious)
"Also, what's an Enforcer?" (serious)

Metagame elimination line of questioning, yo.

>>25083388
[X] This

>>25083388
Sounds good to me. Always a good idea to gain more IC knowledge.

>>25083388
This, but start getting out food and utensils while we're talking.

"So what exactly does that entail then? Are you like a city councilman equivalent for the magical society? Or should I be treating you more like a Princess?"

"Not quite either. I mean, you name your successor, but they don't have to be related to you or anything." She sighs, thoughtfully. "Mostly it's more like being law enforcement. There are RULES I'm supposed to care about, but other than that I mostly am just here in case something happens." She then frowns at me. "I think the real question would be why you're not already treating me like a Princess."

".... really?"

"It doesn't really matter that much to me, really. Though you could do with a bit more actually explaining things instead of half explaining something and expecting me to know what solution your inner madness has given you."

"Alright, so.... do I need to file paperwork or something and register as a Magus?"

"I'm not sure the Mage's Association would accept you, given how overly specialized you are. Someone else could sponser you, but...."

"Yeah, alright. I was just asking because Dad was pretty sdolid on the 'don't join the Mage's Association' thing."

"... Why? It's nothing but knowledge and gathering of powerful and influential magi. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you gained a giant base of prestige just by joining a faction and developing your magical talent. It's specialized, but extraordinarily powerful for that."

"I see. Well, since the overseer of the War is dead, will another overseer be sent or is this going to devolve into a no-holds-barred situation?" I ask, only slightly more seriously.

"... I don't know. I'm not sure it's been a question we've needed to ask before." She sighs. "Honestly, I'm just hoping they don't decide to burn and bury whatever's left when they hear about this."

"That bad?"

"It might very well be."

".... So what's an Enforcer?"

"In what context?" She hesitates. "Actually, it would have to be what it sounds like, someone who enforces... something."

>>25083738
>"I think the real question would be why you're not already treating me like a Princess."

But Rin, if I treated you like a princess, then that would make Sakura and I the only peasants in the house! Royalty can't outnumber peasants, that completely undermines the entire concept of the feudal system! And then where would we be? Complete anarchy, thats where.

>>25083871
But then we could have the KING'S GAME more easily.

I mean, the more royalty, the easier it goes.

>>25083738
"Lancer's master is an Enforcer, I presume with the Mage's Association. But... she also knows--knew--Kirei. Is that common? Being in both the church and the Association I mean. It'd be like having dual citizenship, except it's citizenship in healing and throwing fireballs."

>>25083871
Huh, yeah. Currently the Royalty/Peasant ratio stands at 3/3. We're dangerously close to a critical imbalance in our feudal power structure already.

>>25083871
Sakura may actually want the Queen treatment, if you know what I mean.

>>25083942
This. And try to imply to Rin that Kirei may have been double dealing and playing factions against one another since the last War without outright saying Kirei was the reason for Tokiomi and Aoi's death.

>>25083738
Well the good news is, if the Church does decide to intervene we can put the blame squarely on Zouken.

>>25083942
>>25084057

"Enforcers enforce rules. The Mage's Association has some loose guidelines people are expected to follow. The big ones being 'don't end the world somehow' and 'don't reveal the existence of magic'. The Enforcers are set in place to protect both the Association and the secrecy surrounding Magic."

"So... they're cops?"

"Not quite. We're not really organized enough to have a solid police force like that, and the sort of people who would break the rules go into it expecting heavy resistance from people in some regard." She answers calmly. Then she sees the slightly confused look on my face. ".... Them being police isn't entirely inaccurate but.... we're self policing. When they need to step in it's because the average practitioner isn't prepared. So it's less like a magic cop and more like a magic Police special forces of some kind."

>More questions? Not really setting a time limit here.

>>25084660
"Ah, I see..... So any requests for dinner?"

I'm about out of questions for the Expository Rinbot.

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>>25084660
Thanks for the infodump Rin.

Now lets stop talking about all this Grail War stuff and get down to the serious business of cooking, followed by trying to get everyone to have fun without the situation somehow imploding on us.

Here's a list of things I think we should do asap:
-Get Archer to come home. We need his help to figure out what the fuck is going on with our soul.
-Find Avalon. Project Avalon. Pull Avalon out of our ass. SOMETHING, anything, Saber needs it back.
-Ask Gilgamesh what he intends to achieve by working with the guy trying to end the world. He might be immune to the black goop but does he really want to live on a planet covered in the stuff, alone, with nobody to rule over?
-Ask Saber what the exact conditions of her return to the hill are. I mean, if she just has to go back 'eventually' she can spend all the time she wants having a happy life in the present, right? Everyone dies, doesn't stop them from enjoying themselves.
-Convince Sakura that sex is not bad. Evidence: sex makes babies. Babies are adora- what do you mean you can't have babies? There's MAGIC for that. And if magic don't work, SCIENCE.

>>25084660
>'don't end the world somehow'
Yay! A solid rapport to get along with Bazett better...

>'don't reveal the existence of magic'
... aanndd it's gone.

>More questions? Not really setting a time limit here.
Just a parting line that, if the re-establishment of the contract with Saber fails again, ask if Rin is willing to have temporary custody of Saber.

Other than that, onward to dinner, movie entertainment and hopefully successful re-contract ritual.

>>25084792

Speaking of Sakura's problem, theres the Garan no Dou.

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Touko_Aozaki

She's the one from whom we get rider's glasses from so we'd likely meet her at some point after. She also a puppet master who can create body parts that function like the real thing.

>Sorry guys, is everyone still here? Generator died, I had to run maintenance to get back online.

>So, tell Rin about Saber and then move onto cooking until dinner and/or the next whatever happens?

>>25085276
Yes.

>>25085276
>and/or the next whatever happens?
YES PLEASE

>>25085276

And break open the collection copy of princess bride

>>25085276
Hai.

>>25085276

Percussive maintenance?

In the meantime...
I'm starting to agree on the "Shirou is the Sword" (most likely Excalibur) theory, but with some additions.
http://pastebin.com/BwhREMG6

>What is Shirou?
-Excalibur and Shirou were separate entities
-Excalibur probably got tainted when it fucked the Grail's shit up (might've turned it Demonic/Cursed, and Shirou eerily ALMOST resonated with Gram when he used it)
-Excalibur's demonic side was sealed into Shirou (explains Kirei saying Shirou might have no soul/is a demon)
-Orignal Shirou's soul must be trapped in a no-longer-demonic Excalibur (no freak out yet cuz of his Element and Origin of SWORD)
-Additionally, when we go to the forest clearing Merlin mentioned, we may uncover a buried sword there instead of a body

>Why do we need the Sheath?
-The Sheath strongly refers to Avalon and it might be needed (or just its Projection) to purify Shirou or Excalibur before their respective entities can be put back to where they were originally
>("Well, it's more like the lock than the key in reality, and not her sheath but rather it's SHADOW. Because you can't really use the real thing in the intended manner.")
>("Right then, the sheath needs a sword, right? That’s part of why the curse is in there, but luckily you seem to have adapted well to it.")

>Where is Avalon?
-Avalon could be located alongside Excalibur in that forest clearing (Avalon's healing properties are being channeled to Shirou via his link with the sword, dunno if this theory holds up though)

(cont.)

>>25085428
And here's a theoretical scenario at the end of F/Z centered on what characters there might have wished for.

>Kirei's wish: Burn EVERYTHING.
Grail-kun: Granted.
>Gil's wish: (fuck if I know)
Grail-kun: Granted? Here's a physical body btw. Go slay mongrels then.
>Kerry's wish: Save anyone in the fire, even if it's just one person.
Grail-kun: Granted. I'll keep this one kid alive for as long as possible, at the cost of a lot of other people. And your life while I'm at it.
>Avenger's (theoretical) wish: RELEASE ME FROM YOUR BONDS!
Grail-kun: Haha. No. Find me a martyr that can sacrifice his own life to take your place then.
>Shirou's (theoretical) wish: I want to be a hero.
Grail-kun: Granted. Here's a designated villain (Avenger) you can play hero with. Maybe you can sacrifice yourself to absolve him. Or maybe you'll make a deal with Alaya to be a Counter Guardian in the future and slay millions.

That still leaves PLENTY of questions still unanswered or without working theories.
>Where are the Grail shards?
>The meaning of the 'IX' symbol.
>The mystery of the Magic Crest and multi-magic Shirou.
>Explanation on the Shirou/Avenger/Grail connection. (Okay, it has many theories, but that still leaves it unanswered.)
>What was Avenger's 'gift'? (Same as above, but still couldn't pin it down to one specific thing.)

I'll go back and see if there are some holes in those theories, and maybe uncover more plausible explanations.

>>25085447
Seihai-kun!

"I spoke to Saber by the way." I say, looking at her while mixing the dough for the buns.

"Oh?"

"I wasn't able to re-contract with her before. We aren't sure what the problem was there but we're hoping that it's gone away. In case it hasn't though, we decided to talk alternatives."

"Who you'd trust your Saber with." She answers with a nod.

"Yeah. Sakura was straight out because she has Rider to take care of. I asked Saber whether she would prefer contracting to you or Ilya and she said that while it probably made no difference, she would prefer you."

Rin blinks, surprised staring at me. ".... Really?"

"Well.... yeah. I mean, I trust all of you. It's not like you haven't had plenty of chances to backstab everyone if you were going to. Caster and team Lancer are more marginal, but...."

She stares at me before talking. "No, I kinda knew you were dumb about trusting people but.... Saber picked me over Ilya?" She frowns. "I wonder why. does she just trust me more? did Ilya do something to upset her?" She seems completely lost in thought as she exits the room.

I debate following her, but.... if I did that....

... the Kitchen.....

[ ] Talk to Rin , dammit.
[ ] Cook the Food, dammit.

>>25085615
>[ ] Cook the Food, dammit.

>>25085615
>[ ] Talk to Rin , dammit.

>>25085615
AAAAAAAAARG CHOICES

On one hand we might not get another chance to use the kitchen ever again. But on the other hand, Rin could go all spaghetti on Saber and I wouldn't want to miss that.

[X] Talk to Rin , dammit.

>>25085615
>[ ] Cook the Food, dammit.

Am I the only one who read this line as the Kitchen having affection points with Shirou, and that if ignored long enough will result in a brutal stove incineration?

>>25085615
>[ ] Cook the Food, dammit

Go let her... stew... on her own

Cooking pun!

>>25085615
[X] Talk to Rin , dammit.
[X] Cook the Food, dammit.
[X] Use the immense internal conflict within yourself to develop the ability to be in two places at once!

more seriously though get in the fucking kitchen

>>25085615
>[ ] Cook the Food, dammit.
Lets let Rin come to the conclusion that Saber is lesbians for her on her own. we've got COOKING!

>>25085615
[x] Talk to the Food, dammit.

>>25085615
>[X] Talk to Rin, dammit.

>>25085772
Oh god this. Shirou uses his kitchen as a psychologist, just lets it all out to the stove.

>>25085615
>[ ] Talk to Rin , dammit.

Didn't she just say we need to stop half-explaining things to her?

>>25085842
Then she shouldn't have wandered away!

We should just pull at Rin's skirt.

Keep her in the kitchen while Shirou cooks.

[X] Drag Rin to the kitchen, talk to her and cook at the same time. Multitask, dammit.

>>25085919

BEST OPTION, DO IT

EVEN BETTER IF SHIROU FALLS DOWN DOING IT

>How did we manage a three way split on consensus on a bianary choice?

>How?

>>25086017

I Call it the AC-Guy Effect.

[x] Pull at Rin's skirt

>>25086055
And it seems we have a tiebreaker here, ladies and gentlemen.

>>25086110
I agree with getting Rin back to the kitchen but I'm against pulling her skirt, thats just rude.

>>25086017
Intercept Rin, drag to kitchen, talk while we cook and cook while we talk.

"Rin, have you considered that maybe its because Saber considers you a friend? You've known her for almost as long as I have, and we've been working, living, and fighting together for quite a while now."

"Wait."

"Huh?" She hesitates in the doorway and looks back. "What is it?"

"I always get nervous when you get lost in thought and walk off to talk to someone. It tends to end with you yelling it me."

She hesitates, and then starts laughing. "Really?"

"Yeah. It's happened a few times now, like that time when you were scrying up everyone's children and didn't hear me say I was stepping out."

She suddenly turns crimson and coughs, turning away. ".... I- I wanted to confirm it was actually what it looked like. It's not my fault that people misinterpreted that and wanted to abuse it for their own curiosity. Besides, leaving alone was stupid of you."

"I'm not known for great decision making. Besides, I'm not angry about it or anything, I just don't want you upset with me." I hesitate. "Actually, I am kinda upset that I'm the only one who didn't get to see any of the hypothetical children considering I was the other half of the equation. I just didn't want to push the issue."

".... Well... I... um..." She stops. "Wait, you aren't the only one. Saber never saw."

"She didn't want to, for rather depressing reasons." I answer, looking back to my cooking. "Anyway, it's a rather pointless line of conversation."

"Right. So why would I get upset with you after talking to Saber anyway? Something I should know?"

"Not that I can think of." I tell her with a shrug. "I just have this foreboding sense of it somehow ending badly for me."

"I'm just curious as to why she wants me over Ilya. She has more magic to work with and isn't some sort of competition."

>>25086408

"I honestly think she just likes you and trusts you more. I mean, we've been living and working together for.... a week?" I hesitate. "Wow, has it seriously only been a week? It feels like we've been at it for months."

".... yeah." Rin looks at me oddly. "She just likes me more?"

"Apparently. That's the best I got out of her. She said she would be fine either way, but she preferred you to Ilya and preferred me to everyone else." I shrug. "Apparently competence isn't what she considers the most important thing in a Master."

"I see." She says, thoughtfully before turning in the vague direction of where Saber is.

Suddenly, a thought occurs. ".... Wait, what did you mean by competition?" I ask, looking up. Before I can even fully ask the question, Rin has already fled the room.

[ ] Pursue.
[ ] Cook.

>>25086416
>[ ] Cook.

DO NOT PURSUE LU BU

>>25086416
[X] Cook.

Might as well finish up.

[ ] Cook.
She wants to be free. Let her fly

>fyi, I'm probably only going to do a few more posts before calling it a night.

>So.... an hour from now, give or take.

>>25086416
>[ ] Cook.

Saber is clearly determining her preferred Masters by how much she wants to sex them up. The only question is whether Saber or Rin figures it out first.

>>25086416
[x] Cook.

>>25086529

We should ask Rider about the 'terrifying possibilities'. Might have stuff we can use.

And also ask her what the girls discussed when Shirou stepped out with Ilya.

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>>25086416
[x] Cook.

I finally take advantage of the open kitchen to cook, and see Taiga enter the room not long after Rin leaves it.

"Hey Shirou~" She greets cheerfully as she enters the Kitchen, having not even bothered to knock. "How's it going?"

"Alright." I tell her. "Or at least as well as can be expected."

"Yeah." She surprises me with a hug from behind. "It feels weird not being here all the time. I can't wait for this.... thing to be over."

I think about Saber's words, Rider's concerns and Caster's worries.

I think about meeting Ilya, and getting closer to Rin and Sakura.

I think about Avenger, Gilgamesh, and Lancer along with the problems they've created and my inability to hate them for it.

I think about how dramatically my life has changed through a vision of smoke.... and I decline to comment. "So what movies did you bring?" I ask instead with a measure of forced cheer.

"uh... a few different comedy things." She answers, looking back at the bag. "I figured Romance and Violence related things would be bad given how you wanted a night off...."

"Probably wise." I tell her, looking over the choice of movies. Typical comedy fare for the most part, though at least one of them is animated. I see Sakura grabbing her coat and having a mumbled conversation with Rider as they head towards the door.

[ ] Intercept.
[ ] Cook.

25086797

>[ ] Intercept.

Why universe no let shirou cook in peace.

>>25086797
>[ ] Intercept.

Oh this is going to end poorly, I can just feel it.

>>25086797
[x] Cook.

>>25086797
>>25086821
>Leaving the kitchen
>When Taiga is inside it

NOPE. Also Rider is with her so she sh-

They are going to the church aren't they. FUCK


[X] Intercept.

>>25086797
>they head towards the door.
Nononono...

>[ ] Intercept.

Shirou can't even relax even if he wanted to. Why am I not surprised?

Go see what disaster in the making this is about.

[X] Intercept.
NOPE

>>25086797
>[ ] Intercept.

"Don't be out too long, you'll miss dinner."

>>25086797
>[ ] Intercept.

Nope nope nope nope NOPE.

This entire exercise only works because we're all huddled together for safety. If a third of our force goes marching off to who-knows-where, the entire "everyone should just chill out" plan kinda starts falling apart.

If necessary, bust out the "but don't you want to eat my cooking?" puppy dog eyes to prevent them from leaving.

>>25086797
>[ ] Intercept.

Sakura stahp.

Its one thing for us to go wandering at the absolute worst times, we're made of swords and incapable of dying. You are neither of those things. Just chill and have some delicious Shirou cooking.

I sigh, walking over to them.

"What's up?"

"Oh, Sempai.. we were just.... going for a walk. Getting some fresh air."

"Really?"

"Really." She responds. "I figured if you were going to cook and Nee-san was busy I would just step outside for a minute."

"... And just leave without saying anything while my back is turned?"

"..... I'm not plotting anything evil." She answers, suddenly defensive. "I was just going for a walk. Rider's with me and everything, so It's not dangerous."

I look to Rider with a quirked eyebrow, and she just returns with an impassive stare. "I am going with to protect her." She states plainly and unemotionally as she crosses her arms.

Something seems.... off....

>Actions?

>>25086970

She acting weirdly. She might be sick.

Direct forhead fever check.

Get her off balance. See if she leaks anything.

>>25087029

>forehead to forehead fever check

derp

>>25086970
I was gonna go the whole 'zouken said words' route but >>25087029 is funnier so do that instead.

We know she's going to go visit grampa. Now, how do we address it?

>>25086970
Should we remind her once again that she's a terrible bluffer?

Oh, and invite her to poker night, because fuck that's an easy mark.

>>25087043
>>25087029

This works too.

>>25086970
"I don't think tonight's a very good night for visiting relatives, all told."

>>25087068

I... You know, we might be WRONG about the Zouken connection.. Not sure if saying it out loud and bluntly like this would help, if we're wrong...

>>25087081
Mumble it just enough for Rider's giga-supernatural hearing to pick up?

If she knows we're onto it she might shit a brick and give it away. Otherwise,she won't probably register.

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>>25086970
"You! Become the criminal!"

>>25087099

shes acting weirdly.

It's entirely possible shes acting under the effects of a command seal.

I suggest if nothing leaks out, we either get Rin to send a familiar to trail them or call Issei to put Archer on the case.

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>>25086970
"Your first mistake was trying to do that thing I always do and sneak out without telling anyone. Your second mistake was Rider being super serious rather than immediately hitting me with a witty comeback. Something is up, and Ilya has entrusted me with a sacred duty to make sure no War/Magic/Evil-related bullshit goes down tonight so we can all relax. So spill it."

>>25087131
THAT PIC

IT MAKES ME WANT TO MURDER THE INNOCENT.

>>25087210

I vote for this.

Use this as an initial approach...
>>25087029

Then this once Sakura is enveloped in Shirou's hug.
>>25087210

I reach out with the back of my hand and gently touch her forehead. "S-Sempai?" She asks, flinching backwards at my touch.

"Well, you aren't feverish, so that eliminates one possible reason for why you're acting so oddly."

".... Are you accusing me of something?" She asks, suddenly serious.

"Only of acting oddly. You suddenly acting this odd makes me worried that you're hiding something, and I don't like the idea of you hiding something from me."

"..... Really?" She asks, suddenly concerned.

"All I really do is look after people. It's who I am. so when you start acting weird, I think there's a problem. If you won't tell me it becomes a problem I can't solve bothering a person I really care about."

"... What makes you think-"

"You were going to leave while nobody was watching without saying anything. Rider's acting uncharacteristically cold and distant, and you IMMEDIATELY got defensive when I asked what was up."

She looks me in the eye, chewing her lip and looking away. ".... I can't talk about it."

"Can't, or won't?"

".... Can't." She says, looking so guilty I can feel the tears she's holding in. "I just.... I need to step outside for a little bit. I won't be gone long, and I won't be going far."

[ ] Trust Sakura.
[ ] Press further.
[ ] Other.

>and with that, I need to leave you guys hanging.

>I'll keep going tomorrow if the thread's alive, and now I'm feeling more.... in the groove, so hopefully I can run longer and faster too.

>Sorry the thread was so damned slow.

>>25087287
>[ ] Trust Sakura.

Then we go to Rin and ask her to have one of her familiars follow them.

>>25087287

>[ ] Trust Sakura. But Verify

Give her a hug before she leaves. Slip to give a call to Issei

>>25087304

Hows your new place treating yo-

>generator went out

Not well obviously.

Are you running this on a Wii?

>>25087304
>Sorry the thread was so damned slow.

Nah man, slow threads are better than no threads since you said in the twitter that you moved out.

>>25087287
Alright but don't foret about movie night and if your grandfather is bugging you I'll totally shove an exploding sword into his chest cavities.

>>25087287
this >>25087353
perfect

>>25087353
Again.

>>25087287
>[ ] Other.

"So you're being blackmailed then? I'm not sure who's doing it and I won't ask, but you do realize what a monumentally bad idea giving in to their demands is right? The bad guys don't play fair, if you give in to them once they'll just take it as a signal to try to use you again. The only way to win is to refuse to play their games. Whatever is going on we can deal with it together, you don't need to try to solve it on your own."

"Anyway, I'm the only person in this house allowed to do stupid lone-wolf bullshit, you should know that by now."

>>25087309
>Slip to give a call to Issei
If I recall, he didn't pick up when we called him earlier today. Hardly anything to panic about, but if he hasn't gotten in touch by tomorrow we should check in to make sure he's not dead.

>>25089064

Did we call him?

I thought we only left a message.

>>25089097
Hrm, now that I look back I realize we sent him a text message. Although I'm somewhat surprised he hasn't replied yet, considering our message of "I'm not dead" was probably more for Archer's benefit than his.

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>>25089097
Yeah, we left a message stating 'Not dead, explain later' after we figured Archer spotted the dead (fake) Shirou in the shed.

I still think we should investigate the location the the woods which Merlin believed we were camping out at during the night. According to him, we'd been 'in the woods all week', where as the best guess for how long the (fake) Shirou was around was placed at a single day.

Whatever that is, it's the reason we were unable to contract with Saber at the temple. Because some part of Shirou's been out there since the war began. If that isn't investigated before we attempt to contract with Saber again, she'll end up as Rin's. I can feel it in my gut.

>>25087287
>[X ] Press further.
I think >>25088135 has the right idea.

>>25087287
>[X ] Trust Sakura.
"ok " (hug her)

>>25090008
>Rider's acting uncharacteristically cold and distant
>Rider
>>[X ] Trust Sakura.
You're like a red shirt in a star-trek movie man...

>>25087287
>Trust Sakura

>>25090575
>>25090175
>>25090008

>Thrust Sakura

>>25090646
>Thrust sakura onto the dining table and thrust her until she bursts into truth
>Partway through Rider breaks the command seal and joins in the thrusting
>Unlimited Thrust Works

>>25090679
>>25087287
>I look to Rider with a quirked eyebrow, and she just returns with an impassive stare. "I am going with to protect her." She states plainly and unemotionally as she crosses her arms.
[X] Press Further
[X] Gently push Sakura against the wall and order her to spill or secrets or we'll have to get... Dangerous...
Rider entrusted Sakura to us if anything happened to her. Well somethings happened to her and We're men damnit. We will save wormslut whether she can admit she likes it long and hard or not.

>>25087287
[X] Other
>>25088135 has the right idea. Put something in there about how Shirou will always be there for her and she can come to him with any problems she might have, though. Together we can do anything!

Just gonna come out and say this, we screw this up and all our rider points are worthless.

>>25087287
>[X] Trust Sakura

>>25089375
Nonono. She has mental issues AND overwhelming crush on Shirou. Interrogating her in front of everyone is a very bad idea.

>>25089258
Okay I get the from left to right is Shirou as a Tohsaka, Kotomine, canon and Matou (I assume) but why is the a girl version on the right.

>>25092434
Why not?

>>25092434
Because there needs to be one adorable one to get dicked by Rin. The guys lack the hair to make pigtail handles

Bump for great justice!

>>25087287
Why AC-Guy, Why?! Why do you seem to hate us? Probably because it creates a hilarious show of panicking wanna-be-knights.
It's not even a case if I want to trust her. It's that bad feeling that if we won't let her go, serious shit will happen. She's so determined that she has Commanded Rider. She'll either go past us forcefully, causing damage and regretting it from the start, or she'll give up, start regretting what she did to Rider and break down completely, and I mean really break down.

On the other hand, she's gonna do something so stupid that Rider opposed it. It's like the choice is really
>[ ] Trust whoever has power over Sakura.
>[ ] Press further.
>[ ] Other.

So, bad things in the near future or bad things right now.
Why hurry?
>[X] Trust Sakura.
"Just don't let yourself be manipulated."

And no damn following.
> ".... Can't." She says, looking so guilty I can feel the tears she's holding in.
Guys, imagine Zouken telling her "and don't make them suspicious or I'll kill Rider and you." Now imagine Zouken noticing Rin's familiar. Shitty situation, isn't it?

However...
> I won't be gone long, and I won't be going far."
Where's the damn map?

Compromise: spooky magic. We've found emotion-filled places at school, we should be able to track strong feelings around our house, shouldn't we?

inb4 there's no blackmailer, it's all about Sakura's lewd dreams and we just told her that she's the reason of our worries and problems.

>>25096761

I think that there's really only three things that this could be:

1) Rider command sealed, Sakura going to Zouken/Assassin.

2) Rider command sealed, Sakura going to Shinji/Avenger.

3) Sakura and Rider going together for something else; Rider is displeased but going with it.

All of these are bad things. Sakura is a mentally unstable young woman who's only love interest/stabilizing influence has become remarkably unstable recently, due to the influx of interested women. She cannot be trusted to make rational or correct choices right now.

We need to box up and follow.

We should let her go because upsetting her and pushing things is not going to solve anything here.

However, we need to say something along the lines of "You're very important to me. If there is ANYTHING I can help with, anything at all, you just have to call and I'll be there as fast as I can. No questions asked. I promise. Be safe, okay?"

>>25087287

>[x] Trust Rider.

Tired of/irritated with Sakura, so I don't trust or have any interest in her at all anymore. Trust Rider, however, so I'd have to trust Rider to protect Sakura, even if it's from herself.

Also

[x] "Be safe. BOTH of you."

>>25099784
Why would she go to Shinji? Zouken I can see.

>>25100753

Who knows? He was her "brother", and when we brought up saving him she reacted badly; for all we know, she's taking this chance to straight up get rid of him "for sempai".

Is that likely? No, not really, but the fact of the matter is that she's crazy-pants and we have no idea if she's the traitor Zouken spoke of or not.

Also, it seems like she command-sealed Rider, so that's a huge mark against her, as Rider is pretty much devoted to her.

>>25101134

Maybe we should call Sakura out on command sealing her?

If she's gonna go crazypants-nuts, I'd prefer it while we are within screaming range of everyone else.

>>25100231
>>25100607
This.

>>25101534
I'm on board with the whole stay safe sentiment.

>>25101518

On one hand, I really want to know what the hell is going on here--the timing is super suspicious, and her sealing Rider is equally so.

On the other hand, if we push her too far, then that just might drive her over the edge--he entire life's been dominated by overbearing men, and if we do that then she might just snap.

Following her in secret is likely the best compromise that we'll have.

If we just tell her to stay safe, yeah that shows that we trust her--the problem is that I don't know how many of us actually do.

It's really simple. We can trust her & not trust whoever it is that has called/forced/coerced/whatever'd her out.

>>25101818

Also, random paranoid scary thought for the future, in case she does go bad--can a command seal be used for an order like "Don't pursue Sempai! He's mine!"

>>25102067
Yes. Yes it could.

Sakura, I will fucking END YOU.

>>25102067

If Sakura does that, then she's dead to us.

>>25099784
>3) Sakura and Rider going together for something else; Rider is displeased but going with it.
Our bro, Rider, would have done something other than act completely out of character. Think about it.When our co-harem conspirator wont reassure us you can rest assured that shit is beyond srs. This one is out.
Rider taught Sakura the pleasure of being cummed inside and they've got to get the pill from Zouken

>>25102067
The more generalized and long term a command, the weaker the effect. I'd guess that the command would be effective for a while, but not forever.

Bump

>>25101818

Telling them to be safe is actually not about trusting Sakura, in my mind. It's more about telling Rider we trust her (Rider, that is). I'm reasonably certain Rider is letting us know (silently) that something is up, but I agree that it would probably be bad to push Sakura at the moment.

Ugh, Rider must be having a hard time. She already had to deal with "killing" us, now she has to deal with a very likely unstable master while giving us the cold shoulder, which is very unlike her.

Looks like majority is Trust but Verify?

Thoughts? Go in the box? Use a familiar? Do nothing?

>>25104825
Its not really trust if you stalk someone to find out if they are keeping secrets from you.

>>25104825
I agree trust but verify.

My thoughts on this is that the Box might be the safest way to do this.

But I kind of want to giver her one of our knives (crazy girl needs her knives) to help keep her safe (I don't know which one would be best for that though.)
I gives her her own agency while still protecting her the best we can. We can just tell her that we are having a bad feeling and would feel better if she took something no one would expect her to have.

I suggest we just talk to Rider later and find out if its anything that we really need to be worrying about. And frankly I think we trust her enough to give an honest response. If she refuses to say anything then we can ask if it has to do with command seals. Any order to shut up via command seals is probably gonna have a loophole somewhere.

Oh, we may want to mention that if they aren't back in time for dinner we're sending a search party for them, probably passing it off as a joke.

>>25104900
Just because we trust HER does not mean we trust Zouken, which is probably who she's going to see. We don't know the whole story here and she clearly doesn't intend to talk, so we should observe the situation until we find the course of action that doesn't result in anyone getting dead.

The big issue here is the way Rider is acting. Her being so out of character is a HUGE tell that something is seriously wrong.

Twenty bucks says she is trying to get zouken to fix her. This will end poorly for everyone involved.

Ask her to give you a hand in the kitchen

When is AC guy suppose to show up?

>>25105438
About 15 min ago he tweeted that he was gonna have dinner then be back

>>25105438
>AC-Guy @ArmoredQuest 16m
>Heh. I get back, and I see a long long list of PANIC. And I didn't even get you guys anything.... Thread's back on in a sec, eating dinner

>>25105188
I didn't even consider that.

We had kinda assumed she was being coerced. But if she's going to Zouken of her own free (if horribly warped) free will then this whole situation just became a whole new level of FUBAR.

>>25105543
What kind of sex ed do they have over in Japan anyway?

>>25105564

>It's SO HARD not to make the obvious Hentai related jokes.

>>25105543
Yes that would be fucked up.

But there is a chance that Zouken might not screw her over. Since he said he never sought her misery it was just an unfortunate consequence.

>>25105595
I was gonna add something like that, but I thought I'd be serious for once.

>>25105601
No... no he most certainly would. We're his enemy, and he would have no hesitation if a chance to use Sakura to blow our alliance to hell presented itself. Hell, he might have been planning that for a while if what we overheard back in the church was a reference to her, which its looking more and more like it was.

>>25105601
Now she's ONLY a Master in the HGW that he can manipulate pretty easily. I doubt he'd think twice about using her

>>25105601
But now he's back in the war and looking to win. He may not wish any particular harm on Sakura, but he DOES want Rider dead and gone.

".... I'm not sure I like this but.... be safe, both of you."

I get a nod from Rider and a slightly more unsure confirmation from Sakura as the two leave.

I wait a few seconds until after the door's closed before I let out the breath I was holding. "Dammit. And here I promised Ilya that I would get everyone to relax for the evening...."

"Shirou!" Taiga's voice calls from the Kitchen, and I turn back realizing who I left in the kitchen. I stare in blank amazement when I see her smiling face as she turns to me proudly. "I.... I managed to keep the rice from burning!"

".... Good job." I tell her, trying to sound as pleased as possible. I don't have the heart to tell her that the rice is on an electric timer and impossible to burn.

Saber enters the room, and I ask her to find Rin. When they return....

"Sakura just slipped out with Rider claiming she was in no way able to tell me what was going on." I inform them, and I get a pair of shocked stares. "On top of that, Rider was acting strange. It's possible that she used a command seal to convince her, but I'm hesitant to actually believe that."

"... Alright, so what do we do?"

".... I don't know. I told her to be safe, and she said she wouldn't go far but...." I shake my head. "I don't know. I guess my biggest fear is that Zouken's got his hooks in her somehow." there's a silence.

"So am I going after her, or are you?" Rin asks.

".... what?"

"I never promised her any sort of trust or distance tonight, and you'd have no reason not to tell me that she stepped out if I asked. It's complete plausible denyability. I take Saber with me and I'm safe."

Saber hesitates. ".... I'm not sure Caster would approve. I am still technically her Servant until after dinner."

"Well, we could send Shirou. As much as I hate to say it, he's probably fine by himself." She frowns. "Also, Saber said something about how you were 'impossibly sneaky'?"

[ ] Rin cooks, Follow Sakura.
[ ] Trust Rin, cook.
[ ] Go with Rin.

>>25105714
[ ] Rin cooks, Follow Sakura.
Rin does not know the ways of the box.

>>25105714
Hmm, I gonna say let Rin play big Sister. Saber optional

>>25105714
>[ ] Rin cooks, Follow Sakura.

If there is one thing we've been consistently good at, its being sneaky as hell when we want to be.

Just make sure Rin keeps one eye on her phone in case we have to send an emergency SOS.

>>25105714
[X] Go with Rin.
We are NOT sending Rin in there alone when we'll probably run into Assassin and Zouken. Or worse. Reconnaisance only, though. Don't reveal ourselves unless there's some kind of obvious trouble going on.

>>25105714
Go with Rin.
We don't want it to end in tears.
Our home is pretty safe with Saber and Caster.

>>25105714
[x] Go with Rin.
Give her the Box[/spoiler.

>>25105714
>[ ] Go with Rin.

Remember that confrontation with Shinji where Rin had his attention and Shirou blindsided him?

Do that. Safety in numbers. Shadow Rin so we can have plausible deniability that we weren't following Sakura, but Rin instead. Watch out for backstabbing Assassin.

>>25105714
>[ ] Rin cooks, Follow Sakura.

We have what is, essentially, Presence Concealment. Rin does not. If someone is on the lookout for people following Sakura, we're significantly more likely to go undetected on our own than Rin would be.

>>25105881
>>25105879

BUT WHO WILL COOK?

But seriously. Going with Rin. We can follow HER and not Sakura. We'll hide in the box. It'll be great.

>>25105714
>[ ] Go with Rin.
If Sakura gets irritated with our following her, we can just go "Well, Rin went out to make sure you two weren't going to get into trouble. What was I going to do; let her go out alone?"

Pic related; Yes, capcha, it could.

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>>25105917
And obviously, I forget the picture.

>>25105915
Taiga, obviously! What could go wrong?

>>25105927

... We aren't going to have a house by the time we get back, are we?

>>25105944
Ilya will just be standing outside, holding the puppy and watching the inferno

We're gonna have a chain of stalkers by the end of this, aren't we?
Like in the Carnival Phantasm ED...

>>25105944
Well, that's give us an excuse to crash in Rin's house.

>>25105975
>that's
that will*

Grraargh!

>>25105968
Archer will have received our message, start on his way back to the house to talk to us about how everything is fine, and arrive to find the entire compound burning to the ground.

Yep, don't worry, it's ALLLLL under control Archer. We're fine. We promise.

Rolled 13

>>25105927
>H-Hey t-there Sakura... Am I S.T.A.L.K.E.R. enough for your love yet?

>>25106033
And then Shirou was Russian.

>>25105714
[ ] Rin cooks, follow Sakura

The ways of the box will lose power if we teach them to someone else, they must remain unique to us

>Sorry guys, computer problems.

>Someone mind giving me a consensus so I can start writing?

>Kinda looks like 'both Rin and Shirou' is winning.

>>25106207
>Both go is winning
>Leaving Rin to cook is a close second, though, real close.
>Meanwhile, we've already begun wondering what shenanigans Taiga will get into if we leave her with the dinner...

>>25106207
Rin in a box.

Shame we can't just disguise ourself as Archer.

But, barring that, then Rin and Us, in box mode, should go, yes.

>>25106207
rin cooks=4
rin and shirou go=5
trust rin=1

>>25106207
Rin follows Sakura, Shirou follows Rin. Saber follows Shirou

Why not call Archer and ask him to cook?

>>25106252
>trust rin=1
I am the specialest snowflake

>>25106270
Genius.

Except we don't have a direct line of communication to Archer. And in any case, there is NO WAY we could possibly explain that away.

>>25106323
We can ask Issei then.

>>25106340
Issei's only a decent cook, letting anyone that isn't a master cook handle our kitchen is an unforgiveable crime.

>>25106270
>Leaving Archer alone with Saber and Caster
HAHA fuck no

>>25106374
Well it's either that or letting Taiga cook.

>>25106410
Get Souchirou. Given he's lived by himself for some time at least he won't turn dinner into a disaster.

>>25106340
Or Ayako.
But /tg/ is being all "Oh, we burned our bridges with her; don't involve her with magic anymore..." and all sorts of things. So that's a bust.

"Let's both go. I'd rather not upset caster further."

"Alright." She nods, and we move towards the door. After only a moment's hesitation I give saber a flyer for a decent take-out place nearby and tell her where some money is stashed. She looks extremely relieved as I hear what I can only hope is a blender of some kind activate in the kitchen.

After a few moments outside, I see Sakura in the distance walking towards the middle of town. We move to follow as discreetly as possible.

[DC15 Stealth check]

Rolled 9

>>25106442
Hang in there Rider. We'll protect her the best we can!

>>25106423
I wish we kept Ayako around.

go for that six-way

Rolled 2

>>25106442

Rolled 9

>>25106442

NAT 1 TIME!

Rolled 1

>>25106456
>>25106466
>>25106467
Looks like trust really was the right path

>>25106456
>>25106466
>>25106467
We forgot the box didn't we?

Rolled 4

>>25106442

>congregate thetinuo

Captcha knows whats up here, this cannot possibly go wrong!

Rolled 15

>>25106442
in the love box with Rin we are the sneakiest

>>25106479
Oh RNG you card you...

>>25106323
>there is NO WAY we could possibly explain that away
"So it turns out that Archer really is a future version of me. The tingling of his Shirou senses informed him that Taiga was trying to cook again. This awoke the memories of his life as me, reignited his desire to be a hero.

"He saved dinner."

I think that'd work.

>>25106456
>>25106466
>>25106467
Well I'm guessing going solo was going to be DC10 stealth, and we still would have failed. So thats some consolation I guess.

>>25106489
dangit!

>>25106456
>>25106466
>>25106467
We turn a corner to find Sakua staring at us in a huff

>>25106512
What falls out of our pockets as we try to explain our way out of this one?

Rolled 2

Let us recite the Litany Of Stealth!

>>25106456
>>25106466
>>25106467

I'm predicting that the next sequence of events will involve Rider noticing us, we get another roll for solo stealth, and Rider (hopefully) ignores Shirou for the rest of the way there.

Please let it be so.

>>25106526
Rin, obviously

Rolled 15

We need to immediately trace a box. Then another box on top of it. And a bandana, like merlin advised to increase our tactical stealth.

>>25106526
Swords.

Rolled 11

>>25106548
>>25106489
Indeed we do.

>>25106527
"Hide hide hide hide hide from the purple haired women!"

Yeah, that's an amazing use of Inspire Competence, and it's why we never recite the Litany.

>>25106548
>And a banana
Delicious, healthy and suggestive. The perfect food to distract a woman with. Yes I know. I couldn't resist.

>>25106577
It was worth a shot! We had too many 1's already. The chances of it paying off were worth it.

We follow her at a wide distance, when suddenly something grabs my attention and I pull rin onto another street.

"What is it?" She asks confused.

"I think Rider may have noticed us. If we're lucky, she'll think that we just happened to be out for our own reasons, and not tailing them."

"..... I see." She responds. "So what now?"

"Well, there's a few places she could be headed based off of where we saw her, so maybe we can loop around and find her again?"

"Hmmm...."

[ ] Try to find her.
[ ] Go home.

Rolled 13

>>25106638
Project the box and go back to following them.

The box is the only thue answer.

>>25106638
>[ ] Try to find her.
Give up? Ahahahahahaha

Rolled 12

>>25106638

first, trace box and bandana and become one with the box. Then follow.

>>25106638
>[ ] Try to find her.
We can't just give up now.

Rolled 11

>>25106638
Project box, follow gorgon.

[DC12 Search Check]

Rolled 13

>>25106703

Rolled 20

>>25106703

Searching through the box!

Rolled 9

>>25106703
Search and pursue!

>>25106712
>>25106718
Oh sure NOW we ace the roll.

>>25106718
I think we found her.

>>25106718
The box's powers are unstoppable.

>>25106740

I think we found Zouken.

Rolled 7

>>25106703

Rolled 4

>>25106751
I think we found Akasha. Inside the box.

>>25106751
...Crap.

>>25106751
It turns out that Sakura was kidnapped, had her command seals stolen, and replaced by Hassan who is now bringin a blackmailed Rider back.

I take her around a few more buildings at a decent pace, and wait. After a moment, I can hear what almost sounds like a quiet argument.

"You could have told him you know. It's not like he would think badly of you. He'd almost certainly help actually."

".... No, if Sempai got involved then Gr- ZOUKEN would be upset with me." She sighs. "He's not asking anything anything unreasonable even. It's something we should have done a while ago."

"Are you really so certain?" Rider asks. "He's never been that concerned with your well-being in the past."

"If he can't blackmail me or control me directly, all he has are bribes." She hesitates. ".... Are you saying I shouldn't want what he's offering?"

"No, of course not. I'm questioning if he's actually going to give it to you. Besides, the plan hinges around us finding and defeating someone that he couldn't. If a mage with as much knowledge as he has-"

"He's not doing it only because it's a risk. there's little he can't do if he wants, but...." She pauses, not walking as we watch and listen carefully from around the corner. "Like he said, this attempt wouldn't really cost him anything. And it gives me a chance to...." She falls silent, placing one hand on her stomach and..... crying? When she starts talking again, her voice is suddenly angry. "Besides, he kidnapped Nee-san and threatened Sempai. If we kill him now, he's no longer a threat to us."

"Or Zouken, who he seems to hate more."

".... If Zouken dies...." She shakes her head. "No, I've made up my mind. It's time I started contributing to the War anyway."

We sit there in silence for a minute, before Rin turns to me. "So wait, does that mean what I THINK it does?"

>>25106790

Given magus population density and historical evidence, I'm pretty sure that finding Akasha requires at least four 20s on a single roll.

>>25106884

>Whoops. Actions?

Rolled 3

>>25106896
Well, no one has tried to find in inside a projected sword-box. ...Yet.

>>25106884
So, Lancer's probably the target. Whould we warn him?

>>25106912
"Yes, I think she does. And we need to find a way to stop them, we can't let them fight Archer. He's got a secret weapon I don't think those two can beat."

>>25106884
hahaha
Zouken you dick
>>25106912
Call Issei, ask him if we can speak with Archer.

>>25106884

>Zouken told her to unknowingly murder the man she loves for the sake of being able to have babies with a man she sees herself as an unworthy burden on if he maybe picks her.

Oh god, I hate him so much, but you have GOT to give him props for how clean and simple and INSANELY TWISTED this shit is.

>>25106912

Okay, so.

Zouken is trying to bribe Sakura, to kill Archer. With something Sakura very much wants.

I'm fairly sure they mean Archer. I don't remember Lancer kidnapping Rin at any point.

Rolled 20

>>25106912

quietly follow. We need to protect Archer.

>>25106933
>he kidnapped Nee-san and threatened Sempai.
>Or Zouken, who he seems to hate more.
I think the target is Archer.

>>25106942
shit, didn't see that. Should we tell her about our alliance?

Rolled 18

>>25106884
>Based AC-Guy. It's worth overdosing on caffeine every time you run just to see your magic in action

>>25106912
Hop out and shout "Halt citizen! Let us assist you in your endeavors of justice!" Sakura's going full retard and we need to save her.

>>25106912
>>25106946
Follow his lead.

>>25106941
don;t think Zouken knows that bit. But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if he did

Rolled 19

>>25106962
Herpaderp

>>25106884
"That she's going to try and kill Archer? Yes. Or do you mean you think she's acting a lot like you? I can see it, but I think you'd have been a lot more proactive in hunting him if you wanted him dead. Or back. Still, I think we should try to keep Sakura from killing him, who knows what killing me--even a future asshole version of me--would do to her psyche?"

And before you freak, yes, Rin knows that detail.

>>25106957

No, it's actually a valid point. We should make a list of people who have threatened us, and people who have kidnapped Rin, and see who is on both lists.

I'm fairly sure the second is gonna be shorter, but the overlap should probably tell us something.

>>25106884
ask Rin how Sakura reacted to seeing our babies

>>25106912
NOPE. THIS STOPS NOW.

Its time to break cover and confront her. She isn't currently in the process of being blackmailed, so there is no risk in just straight up telling her to stop being an idiot.

Normally I try to be gentle with Sakura, but she has officially gone off the deep end. Literally EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of her plan is a bad idea.

>>25107071
>tfw you realize that the carnival phantasm soap opera is becoming reality

>>25107071
>Voluntarily working with Zouken
Check
>Sneaking away from the safety of our stronghold to fight a hostile Servant
Check
>The Servant she's trying to kill is actually our secret ally and a valuable asset
Check
>Archer would probably kick their asses by ruthlessly toying with Sakura's emotions
Check

Did I miss anything?
But yeah, confirmed for bad idea all around.

Rolled 11

>>25107071
Okay, so instead of ninja tiems, switch to Diplomacy check?


I can live with this.

>>25107108
To be fair, we've voluntarily cavorted with Zouken too. And tried to go 1-on-1 with Servants, mostly Archer and Gil.

>>25107108

To be fair, not knowing about the third one just means it's working. And we shouldn't tell her about it in public, outside the wards, where people could overhear.

>>25107118
Yeah but that was back when Zouken was mostly neutral. And we're also made of swords and don't die when we are killed.

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I can't wait till sakura finds out her plan involves plotting to kill Shirou.

The SAN Loss.

>>25107118

Sakura should not want to be like us! We are a terrible example! We set ourselves on fire and almost die ALL THE TIME.

>>25107145
But the ninjas can't catch us if we're on fire!

Rolled 14

I trust our odds of reaching understanding if we wait so we can show her who Archer actually is.

>>25107151
But the ninjas ARE US!

>>25106912
Call archer.Tell him Sakura's being bribed(extorted?) by Zouken and she's out for his hide.

If he decides to lay low instead of being a showy fuck, she'll never find him.

>>25107178

But he's (kinda) us! And we can't resist being a showy fuck to an enemy!

>>25107151

Yes, but it did make Arcueid Brunestud hit us with a broom. Repeatedly.

That may make us a minor celebrity in magus circles, but my point that it does not make Shirou a good role model stands.

>>25107173

No! That's not true!

That's impossible!

>>25107178

He knows of the box already, right?

>>25107132
I agree, but it also means we need to cut her little expedition short before she makes contact with Archer or else our little secret will be in danger, since justifying stopping her with Archer standing right there would be hard to pass off.

>Sakura, stop!
>But Sempai, Archer is right there and we've got him on the ropes!
>No, you can't kill him for reasons.
>What reasons Sempai? He's an enemy, right?
>Errr...well...you see.... uhhh....

>>25107178

This might have some promise. Call him and inform him of the situation, as well as what we suspect. See what he has to say.

>>25107178
Uh, we still don't have a direct line to him. Also, his dickery doesn't need excuses

>.... so, what's the plan?

>>25107227
I think it's setting ourself on fire and trying to not die.

However this goes down, the inevitable reveal over Archer being our trump card, and ther resulting reactions are going to be hilarious.

>>25107227

I think it is leaning towards making this a diplomacy check. I like the whole EVERY ASPECT OF THIS PLAN IS TERRIBLE thing
>>25107071
>>25107108
personally, with the caveat that we don't talk about Archer being a secret ally until we are back home and inside the wards.

Assuming the house is still standing. We did leave Taiga in the kitchen.

>>25107218
Well, writing "Call Issei so he can put us onto Archer" takes longer, and is annoying on a phone. So nyah.

>>25107227
Sakura, your plan is flawed on several levels.

And by "several" I mean "all of them", including at least, but not limited to, two you are completely unaware of.

confronting her will not work. She's set on Shirou babies now and there's no stopping her. It'll only trip the bad end flag right now

We need to lay low and follow.

>>25107264
>diplomacy check
Let's send Rin to do it though. She gets an onee-sama circumstance bonus to all social checks with Sakura, plus it lets us seem like we never broke our promise.

>>25107227
"Stop beimg dumb Sakura" seems to be leading, though "Call and warn Archer" is gaining a lot of support.

So those two, I guess.

>>25107227
>[X] Call Issei and tell him to HIDE HIS MEN.
Then tell Sakura her plan is terrible.

>>25107296
>>25107297

So Rin for Diplomacy, and call to warn Archer? Seems good to me.

>>25107296
dis pls

We should probably remember to mention to her during our talk that we overheard Zouken and Assassin talking while we were under their care before they knew we were escaping.

>I catch the end of something else Assassin says. "-seems to have taken the bait. Do you expect her to succeed?"

>"I expect her to confuse the hell out of everyone and destroy their little alliance. She'll be desperate for the prize I've offered her." the two share a laugh as Assassin compliments Zouken on his deviousness.

No matter how Zouken proposed this op to Sakura, she should know that behind closed doors, he didn't exactly seem to treat it as though it was a mutually beneficial arrangement.

And seriously, if we're going by "people I care about kidnapped" as a metric of whether a person is to be tolerated, Zouken probably took the lead in that category as of a few hours ago.

>>25107320

But Shirou doesn't care about Shirou at all.

>>25107320
>I catch the end of something else Assassin says. "-seems to have taken the bait. Do you expect her to succeed?"

>"I expect her to confuse the hell out of everyone and destroy their little alliance. She'll be desperate for the prize I've offered her." the two share a laugh as Assassin compliments Zouken on his deviousness.

Well, we've officially solved that little mystery. Goddammit Sakura, you're so terribly predictable.

>>25107330
Shirou cares about Shirou a lot, because if Shirou died then all the people that care about Shirou would be sad, which is all kinds of unacceptable.

Shirou just thinks nothing of sacrificing himself if doing so would avert something worse.

Rolled 12

Captcha stopped what I was going to say:

>faceOff and

Confront her and explain what we heard from Zouken and tell her there's more that needs to be revealed back at home base.

>>25107320
>>25107330

So that'd stand at... What?

Archer: 1 (Rin)
Shinji: 1 (Ayako)
Vampire: 1 (Taiga)
Team Avenger: 1 (Shinji is probably only worth, like, half a point, but they did do it twice)
Zouken: 1 (Sakura, Shirou)

>>25107366
Give Team Avenger half a point more for Sacchin... And 0.1 for the vampire.

>>25107366
If Shirou only counts as half a point, then that leaves Zouken with a narrow lead at 1.5.

>>25107366
So Zouken wins by dint of 'gee this sure is inconvenient'.

>>25107392

Team Avenger: 1.6 (Shinji, Sacchin, Vampire)
Zouken: 1.5 (Sakura, Shirou)

... Yeah, that actually seems fairly in line. Shinji is the only person on the list who we haven't actually attempted to kill, isn't he?

>Alright, so do YOU want to talk to Sakura? Or try and let Rin handle it.

>>25107330
Was implying that Sakura should probably be ranking "Kidnapped Shirou" higher on her mental "How Much Do I Hate This Person" list than "Kidnapped Rin, Threatened Shirou"

And that the only reason she ISN'T doing that is because Zouken is a manipulative bag of squiggly dicks.

Either way, she still thinks "wants Shirou dead" is a given on both lists, which probably means the negative Sakura points from the sources I mentioned are basically equivalent to rounding errors.

>>25107415

Come to think of it, Team Avenger should probably get more points due to poisoning Souichiro, too. It's not quite kidnapping, but it's LIKE kidnapping.

>>25107296
This.

But for the love of god, be ready to leap out of the bushes and intervene if Sakura goes on some kind of "you're trying to steal Shirou from me I'll fucking end you" crazybitch rant.