Nigga what

Get out while you can

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>A dude in a trenchcoat and sunglasses with a kitana.

So does he grab her by the leg and club people with her?

>>24933940
To late, the game has already fallen apart after a few games.

Wolf is easily the best thought up character in the group, the clear and distinct storyline is refreshing and beautiful. Embrace Wolf and carry his greatness into the future with you, Tomorrow Man. Make him the most important part of Tomorrow's tomorrow.

>>24933967

You should consider yourself lucky

Captcha: paface eyes

Holy shit. I, I'm sorry, Are you guys playing M&M or some weird game Rob Liefeld and Kevin Siembieda came up with, because I can just see those character drawn in their horribly late 80's early 90's style.

Pouches, weird feet, and face mask things everywhere.

>>24933993
Wolf has transcended the stereotypes. He wears boots made of pouches so that his misshapen feet, a character building flaw, will be hidden from a judging society who would frown upon him for wearing XXL face masks. He wears such a large mask to intimidate the criminals, hopefully making them surrender, so that he doesn't have to use his overwhelming superiority in combat to kill them because even holding back he's just too great of a character.

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>>24934027
>didn't get regeneration
>bleeds profusely each time he uses his blades
>everyone agrees that this is "epic"

>>24933973
I'm probably missing your sarcasm here, but you know that's more or less the exact backstory of wolverine, right?

>>24934100
I think that's the point, the guy didn't even try to hide who he was ripping off.

>>24934100
Oh wait, nevermind they're all straight rip offs, I'm a moron.

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>>24933993
Don't forget the Liefeld School of Anatomy

>Dark Hand
>Blood Mind
>Vengeance Blade

My God, those awful names. Dark Hand is almost kinda acceptable; it's on the shitty side of mediocre, but at least they got the "adjective noun" naming convention straight. But Blood Mind, Vengeance Blade? The fuck.

Impact and Wolf aren't as bad. At least the punchy one word names are true to the mid-90's style.

Tomorrow mans future sight is an excellent descriptor (basically precognition) for many different effects, make for good Hero point APs
Blood mind: Telekinesis limited to blood is an okay description, somewhat limited in the justifiable APs as far as descriptors go

Dark Hand, Vengeance Blade and Wolf all have worthless descriptors according to their ability to be enhanced through APs. Unless you are scrapping the Power point barrel relying on equipment is generally a bad idea due to the complications that occur.

>>24933980
I was lucky that the DM was a big enough fuckhead to screw everyone over.

Anyway the first game we played was our characters not having met yet and going through their 'normal' lives.

Tomorrow Man wonders around fighting crime and doing scans for a particular type of energy emitted by the future alien invaders.

Dark Hand writes poetry in his loft.

Blood Mind is in hiding from the antimutant republicans (yes, really)

Impact is off training alone.

Vengeance Blade is sucking dicks or something I don't remember.

Wolf is sharpening his blades that are supposed to be indestructible. I point out that if they are indestructible that they probably don't need sharpening and the player simply told me "Don't tell me how to play my goddamned character."


Suddenly a monster attacks! the heroes show up to fight the beast, not sensing the energy from the beast I think, "hell, we could use this to fight the aliens!" I try to tell them this but they do not listen (fair enough I guess, I work at a liquor store so I learned a thing or two about ignoring people form the future to fight aliens.)

Tomarrow man may be tough but not tough enough to go toe to toe with Godzilla so I decide to focus on saving people and giving my "teammates" warnings for the beasts next attacks.

Wolf tells me "I don't need a leader" and gets stomped on as he tries stabbing it in the foot, lucky he had super fast healing.

Vengeance Blade runs up its back to try and cut off its head, fails and is thrown through a building,

Blood Mind stands on a building and splashes blood in the monsters eyes and gets vaporized for his trouble.

Dark Hand jumps up and slashes at the creatures face and some how survives.

Impact basically at blasted the creature full force in the head killing it and as the massive creature fell on top of a building he just stood there because "his job is done."

continued/

>>24934162
I don't know the setting but does it seem that Blood Mind is the only one persecuted by anti-mutant agenda?

Or perhaps, they player was more clever than anyone ever figured out. Secretly, Blood Mind had a messiah complex, and all the haters were actually people he had hired to persecute himself.

>sunglasses with a kitana
>Another katana guy

Is a kitana actually a thing, or is OP just a dumb cunt? Given the context, I'm leaning toward the latter.

>>24934162
>Impact basically at blasted the creature full force in the head killing it and as the massive creature fell on top of a building he just stood there because "his job is done."
I like this guy.

>>24934162
The party save for TM and VG all split off and be all angsty and lonewolfy. To VG players credit he even helps come up with the name of the group, The Exemplars. This gets shot down by the DM and the assholes who did not even help form the team. So the name will be on hiatus for awhile and because we took the time to form the team we got to set back and wait for the others to do their solo shit.

Impact: flies off fucks off and trains some more. By himself, in hand-to-hand combat.

Wolf runs into some cops who he kills "because I am wanted man and they where trying to arrest me." I tell him that they where likely busy dealing with the big dead monster the middle of the city and I am told "this is how I play my character, if you can't handle it, deal with it." and at this point I start getting the feeling that Wulf's player does not like me.

Blood Mind's player makes a guy named Speed Strike a speedster mutant. Same background as before, only faster.

Dark Hand goes back to his loft where his player talks about his character contemplating suicide after all he has been through.

The DM was at least good enough to be pissed at the lone wolves at this point and just says me and VB managed to get some contact info on them and with some awkward roleplaying we get the group together.

The first session ends with us picking a name, after about an hour of arguing I give up and we are called "Night Force!" even though we never done any night time crime fighting.

All this took a long time because Impact's player honestly had to keep asking what dice he was supposed to role. Anyway, want me to continue?

>>24934263
Its a typo, not sure how I did it.

>>24934265
Me too, I'm imagining him as some guy who's amazingly powerful but only flies around and shoots shit with lasers from his hands. He's the strongest thing on the planet, but also lazy. He uses his flight to move everywhere because it's simpler than moving two legs, his 'training' is an excuse to leave the room and take a nap.

>>24934298
You pushed the wrong key that's how.

>>24934298
When your dice are supposed to have a role then you're going to have more problems than kitanas.

>>24934311
>>24934282
>by himself, in hand-to-hand combat

Confirmed for flimsy excuse, I bet the fucker doesn't even care how stupid he sounded. He just fapped and fell asleep.

>>24934282
>Do you want to continue?
No
->Yes

>>24934282
this sounds like a trainwreck.

i love train wrecks

Look on the brightside:
You guys are getting stuff done.
We're kinda still finding our feet.

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>>24933993
Well, there is an entire Iron Age supplement for Mutants & Masterminds. It's pretty funny, actually. The super team operating in Freedom City during that time was a group of renegade misfits who play by their own rules called FORCE Ops.

>>24934282
Please continue.
Also
You sure it wasn't "Knight Force"?
That'd work

>>24934407
Or maybe it was Nyte Force

>>24934282
>Night Force

That is amazing.

Where did you find these people? Are they teenagers from the 1990s who fell through a time warp?

>>24934422
Nyte Force! Fuck yeah!

ok I should point out that the game is set in the Freedom City universe and the DM simply shoehorned the antimutant to justify the now dead BH despite the fact that everyone is cool with nonmutants having superpowers, so it was kind like playing a Marvel game.

Next session

The team grows a speedster who is "just there" and we learn of a group of gadget users who are robbing a bank (this is important later) and are part of an anti-mutant movement. We get the alert, go out find Impact who is fucking off training somewhere and set off kick some ass.

The robbers apparently where dragging their asses because despite having to wait for Speed Strike to find Impact (So they could get a cut of the EXP they tell me) we get there while they are still robbing the place. These guys are just jumped up nobodies so we take them down with some ease, Speed Strike took some damage because he charged in by himself.

With them captured Wolf proceeds to execute one of them I get a little pissed here because me and VB worked hard to avoid killing them.

"They where criminals."
"How do you know they where not mind controlled?"
"To bad."
"We could have used them, besides I thought you told me you where a wanted man?"
"Don't tell me how to play my character, Anon"

The cops show up now we have a few captured guys and a dead one. I am tempted to have TM beat up W but I did not want to start a innerparty fight and I was not sure what side the others would have taken.

So the super heroes escape from the cops we later learn of another group that was backing them, a mercenary power suit users called Power Corps. Speed Strike dies by charging ahead and getting blasted by all the bad guys. The fight goes outside in the air. Dark Hand leaps form on top of a building at attack one of them, misses and falls to his death. Impact basically wipes the floor with them and I start to wonder just what sort of bullshit is going on to allow him to do that.

Anyway we captured one of them alive.

>>24934505
>Impact basically wipes the floor with them and I start to wonder just what sort of bullshit is going on to allow him to do that.

They interrupted his naptime, that's what.

>Dark Hand
>Blood Mind
>Impact
>Vengeance Blade
>Wolf
>Speed Strike
>Night Force

I love these names. They're so wonderfully awful.

>>24934603
Agreed, they have quite the impact on my sides.

>>24934505
>Power Corps
Oh, I've fought them. They were pretty cool in the game I played. And yet here, they sound rather uninteresting. Funny, that.

>>24933926
>Tomorrow Man
I LOLd @ the potential to troll

>Why aren't you doing X
>chill man, there's no rush
>when are you going to do it?
>Tommorow man...

>>24934439
The players themselves where

Wolf - one of those guys who pretends to know a lot about comics and what not and only watches the movies.

VB - not to bad, turned out this was his first RP and they originally where going to play D&D before the DM changed his mind.

Dark Hand - pretty much what you would expect, long black hair still thinks the goth look is cool. Not to bad aotherwise

Blood Mind/Speed Stick - a college 'art' student, thinks he is the shit talks about religion and politics all the time.

Impact - I am just going to say there is nothing that comes out of the DM's ass that he does not love.

We question him about why he did this we found out he had been hired....

...wait for it.,..

by The Government!

Because they don't like mutants and thats how the second night ended, I was tired so I did not think of it, but when I laid in bed that night I thought about it..

The Government hired a mercenary group who backed another smaller group to rob banks to fund their anti-mutant agenda because The Government did not like mutants.

Anyway, next session
BM/SS and DH make new characters.

Dark Hand's new guy is the Master, controls shadows because of a government project to military grade despair or something.

SS's new character was a mutant who is persecuted by everyone. He had telekineses is character was named Push.

The new guys are not given much of an intro they are on the same case we are and they find out the same thing we did allowing us to go right to the flying fortress of The Government.

Going to take a quick break to eat here.

>>24934505
>>24934282
>This is how I play my character!
>Completely ignoring how you play your character

Just give it to him already, OP. Just twist his head clean off for that sweet release.

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>>24934663
This is terrible!

>>24934663
Here's the thing: in the '80s and early '90s, superheroes *really were* outlawed and persecuted by the government in the Freedom City setting. If this had been an Iron Age game, all this would have been perfect. The names are completely appropriate, the attitude and backstories (or lack thereof) and gimmicks would fit right in. A game like this could be a great commentary on/celebration of how much the '90s sucked.

The that this was done by and about a group of adults (or semi-adults) in the years 2013 with zero self-awareness is... I don't even...

>>24934704
Abhorrent. The word you are looking for is abhorrent.

>>24934718
Yeah, that's the one. Thank you.

>>24933926
>Wolf: Has blades in his hands, knows nothing of his history.
That sounds hella uncomfortable.

While we're waiting, does anyone want to hear about FORCE Ops?

>>24934731
>does anyone want to hear about FORCE Ops?
->Yes
No

OP, I'm loving the train wreck that is this story, but for the love of god, please stop turning all of your "Too"s into "To". Slow the fuck down a little and fix those before you post, you're making my autism gland flare up like a motherfucker.

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>>24934663

>Dark Hand's new guy is the Master, controls shadows because of a government project to military grade despair or something.

Damn, just damn.

Is it wrong that I am starting to see /tg/'s take on Impact as one of the most awesom characters ever?

>>24934741
Don't tell him how to write his story

>>24934782
That's the way he plays an asshole on /tg/. Don't tell him how to play his character.

>>24934779
It's only wrong because you haven't taken this idea completely to heart yet.

>>24934663

Impact is the only sane man in an insane world. He copes with all the crazy shit around him by NOT GIVING A FUCK.

He's like the Sentry, except instead of having to deal with mental issues, he just doesn't give a shit.

>>24933926

Oh god, this is the best thing ever. I love how this is basically a 90's comic book without the self-awareness.

Jesus christ, I remember the time my M&M group had to fight The Clique, which was basically...Uh, a clique of schoolgirls. Boy did we get beaten down.

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>>24934739
Okay. It is a time of mature issues being dealt with maturely by mature people, not like in your dumb, old-fashioned superhero comics, DAD. Over the last decade, the heroes of the past, so idolized in their time, have proven to be all too human (pic related).

The mayor of Freedom City, Franklin Moore, elected on a platform of zero tolerance toward crime and vigilantism, has banned superheroes and installed his loyal cronies in all levels of the city's government.

In a time when heroism has been made a crime, heroes must become outlaws!

Enter FORCE Ops.

>>24934822

I'M DYING

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>>24934643
Never thought of that...

>>24934663
Anyway we set off against the flying fortress having Impact fly the entire group to it somehow not getting ripped to shreds by AA fire. We land in the hanger and fight the guard stained there, VB and I do our best to not kill anyone because these guys are just doing their job.

This pisses off Wolf and he decides to have his character go into such a berserker rage that he turns on me and slices my character up with ease.

Or at least he would have if I was not Tomorrow Man and simply dodge his shit and threw his ass out the hanger bay door. He had regeneration so I knew he would survive anyway.

We fight our way past some elite super-soldiers who manage to do some severe damage to VB. The Master shined through here using his powers to take out entire squads of normal solders Push and Impact killed people including the ones me and VB took down with out shedding blood.

The DM tells us we are close to the last room and for some reason everyone else decided we need Wolf for this even if he did try to murder me. So Impact goes and gets him and we head off to fight 'the last boss.'


The last boss is not given a name, a face, a motivation or even any kind of background. I assume he is the boss of The Government.

Dude flies around and blasts shit we kick his ass and he evaporates for some reason. Now shit gets stupid.

Impact turns on us, "thank you for dealing with him for me now nothing can stand in my way!" Turns out Impact was evil all along! And we learned the DM did give him extra powerpoints to make his character to "help him along."

20 blast.

He kills us, he kills all.

The DM looks confused and tells us "oh, I thought you guys could take him, well the plot was getting away from me, so I figure we could be done with supers now and play some D&D."

I've decided I was not going to show up for that, I only played with them because I wanted a break form D&D in the first place. Not even going to call them.

>>24934822
90S. AS. FUCK.

>>24934822
(Holding off so as not to disrupt storytime)

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>>24934779

Pic related, Impact in action.

>>24934827
>Impact is evil!

I choose to believe he wanted to kill all the supers so that he could have a peaceful afternoon.

>>24934827

> Impact turns on us, "thank you for dealing with him for me now nothing can stand in my way!" Turns out Impact was evil all along! And we learned the DM did give him extra powerpoints to make his character to "help him along."

BEST

TWIST

EVER

Someone get Alan Moore on the horn

>>24934827
>Not even going to call them.
It's better this way, anon.

>>24934843

This is glorious.

Glorious.

I'm imagining Impact's superhero outfit as footie pajamas with a pillowcase pinned into place for his cape.

>>24934876
And that he constantly has big gulp drinks from 7-11.

>>24934880

And he constantly hovers an inch above the ground so he never, ever has to walk.

>>24934282
>Dark Hand
>Dear Diary, today I leaped over a building and cut Godzilla in the face. It was great. Feel like killing myself now.

I don't even.

>>24934827

Don't worry, maybe NYTE FORCE will get a gritty reboot by Garth Ennis in a few years from now.

Impact wasn't evil, he was just annoyed because they kept bugging him. He had enough. They woke him up 3 times from his nap... someone was going to die.
Anyways yeah crappy end to a crappy game. hope you find someone reasonable to game with

>>24934663
>military grade despair
Oh fuck yes.

>>24934899
>Garth Ennis
That might actually work.

>>24934725
I'm just imagining this average guy, his bleeding hands stuck full of razorblades as he looks on in horror, screaming "HOW DID THIS HAPPEN!?!"

>>24933926
>Blood Mind: A guy who controls blood, a mutant and is hated by the "ignorant masses


Can you imagine if he was loved by the masses.
Yaaay blood man is here to save the day, I hope he gets some blood on me. We love you blood man.

>>24934920
Maybe the players where in fact Garth Ennis.

Op is a fucking queer, it's no wonder his group turned on him and exiled him.
No sympathy from me, you suck.

>>24934932
It would be like a GWAR concert.

Tomorrow Man must be a real jerk, two members of Night Force tried to kill him.

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>>24934916

I bet he looked like this.

>>24934959

You can't stop the future!

>>24934401
Is that guy in the background shooting a ghost out of his stomach?

>>24934941

NYTE FORCE:

THE DARKENING

>>24934960
I like to think they keep it in massive canisters with DESPAIR written on them in bold.

And there are goons loading them onto trucks and shit so they can literally spread despair across the country.

>>24934977

I think SHOCKER tried to do that in Kamen Rider.

>>24934969
Yes, he might look like he's a big bruiser type but his real power is shooting ghosts.

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>>24934822
FORCE Ops stands for Freelance ORganization of Criminal Elimination Operatives. Obviously.

It was founded by a man named Ethan Keller, better known as Archer.

In Freedom City, there's a legacy of archer superheroes going all the way back to the Golden Age: Bowman and his loyal sidekick, Arrow. When Bowman retired, it became traditional for Arrow to take up the mantle and continue to fight crime with a new Arrow. (coincidentally, these changes always happened to take place at the times of the transition from one era of comics to the next).

Unfortunately, the third Bowman (the one from the Bronze Age, who can be seen in his role of as Arrow in the above pic) battled with alcoholism for all of his adult life, eventually having a serious relapse and his drunken superheroics endangered not only himself and Arrow, but innocent civilians, as well.

Arrow, an orphan from the hard streets of one of Freedom City's worse neighborhoods, broke away from his mentor to operate solo, eventually changing his superhero name to Archer and going back to his roots: fighting gang violence.

When the Moore act hit, though, he knew that the city needed a new group of heroes for a new age. the city needed... FORCE Ops!

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>>24934663
>the flying fortress of The Government

>>24934899
Nah. NYTE FORCE needs some real talent for reboot. I suggest Mark Millar.

>>24934971
Oh gosh, not sure if the reference was intentional but if we put Nyte Force into the Privateer 2 setting? That would be interesting.

>>24935024

MAKE IT SO.

>>24935024
Or maybe Bendis could do it, would fit in with the Avengers taking the easy way out and going back in time to kill Pym to keep him from building Ultron.

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>>24934827
>Now shit gets stupid.

Hoo boy.

That was a good story.

>>24935046
Nope. Only Millar can provide enough edginess and serious plot. But Bendis could indeed write some amazing dialogue. They should collaborate on it.

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>>24935002
Next up, we have Bruiser.

Brilliant young biochemist Paul Petrus was working on an experimental human-machine interface with his friend, Doug Romens when they were attacked by a sinister criminal organization that specialized in super science. Doug was apparently killed and Paul was captured by the organization's thugs and used as a test subject for the experimental human enhancement project, DNAscent.

Transformed into a hulking mass of enhanced muscle with rock-hard skin, Paul was held in preparation for brainwashing to turn him into the organization's loyal minion, when he was rescued by an unexpected ally...

>>24935024
>Mark Millar
Yeah, this crew seems about his speed.

> this thread

My sides have vibrated into the Speed Force

>>24935071
I think i've seen this guy in some '90 comic. Actually i think i've seen this guy in every '90 comic!

>>24935046
>Avengers taking the easy way out and going back in time to kill Pym to keep him from building Ultron.
Isn't Pym their friend? Can't they just go back in time go to Pym and tell: "Yo Antman! Don't build any robots ever or everything will go to shit"?

>>24935139

You forgot.

Pym is the dumbest smart motherfucker alive.

>>24935145
>>24935139

It was Wolverine's idea his logic was that Pym would try it anyway with out any fail safes because apparently he knows Pym quite well.

They don't even try anything else if though they have a time machine.

>>24935139

Pym would immediately go 'Right, best idea is for me to build a robot to prevent me building any robots. Ultron sound good to you guys?'

>>24935163
>It was Wolverine's idea.
They have all those brilliant minds on the team and they listen to this drunk retard? My fucking brain hurts.

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>>24935071
Doug Romens writing code when he was twelve years old. By the time he was in high school, his coding skillz had become sick enough for him to be considered part of that most skillful, exclusive, and, for lack of a better term, 1337 group: hackers. He graduated with honors from a prestigious institute and went on to push the boundaries of technology.

While working on an experimental human-machine interface with his friend Paul Petrus, they were attacked by a sinister criminal organization that specialized in super science. Paul was captured by the organization's thugs, but an accidental power surge apparently disintegrated Doug.

However, instead of being killed, Doug was somehow transformed in PURE ELECTRICITY and drawn into the power grid. After regaining consciousness and learning to control his new “body,” Doug’s newfound abilities allowed him to discover his friend Paul, being used as a test subject in an underground lab. Doug freed his friend, who wrecked up the lab before escaping.

The two of them were located by Archer and offered a chance to join FORCE Ops. They said yes and now the two heroes fight from the darkness to protect the city even as it shuns and reviles them.

>>24935179
That is not even the worst of it, all those times when Pym saved The Avengers and the world? Did not happen. Any time Vision or Wonderman did anything for the world, never happened.

>>24935046

Wait...did that happen?

>>24933926
Yeah, that's hella dumb, OP. Those guys probably liked Wildstorm comics, what faggots.

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>>24935201
Maria Villagatos was the only daughter of Colombian drug-lord Hector Villagatos. Before Maria was born, an old wise woman told her mother the gods of old had chosen the child as an instrument of justice.

When Maria was a teenager, her father’s enemies killed her mother in an attempt to get at him. They would have killed her, too, except the wise woman’s prediction came true: Maria became the gods’ instrument of vengeance when the shadow of a wild cat came upon her.

Maria fled Colombia and found her way to the United States. Along the way, she encountered the wise woman and learned to control her transformations, to unleash the beast at her command.

When Archer found her, she was working odd jobs and using her powers to defend the neighborhood she had adopted as her home. The people called their mysterious protector "El Gato"

Joining FORCE Ops, she now uses her savage fury to do battle with the world's true monsters: men like her father (who, coincidentally, spearheaded a recent expansion of the drug trade in Freedom City).

>>24935238
Yep.

>>24935279

...I...ah...wow.

I LIKE Hank Pym. He never stops getting shit for hitting his wife once when out of his mind and he's fucked up...but it's not like Cyclops or god help us Jean Grey hasn't done worse.

>>24935203
Avengers want to kill Pym, Spider-Man is Doc Ock and Punisher is on team with Deadpool. Fuck this shit.

>>24935286
Pym sucks. I know more about Pym Particles than he does.

>>24935286
I like him too, honestly if at the end of this story arc he comes back or something and does not turn around and become a villain then he should be treated as the greatest hero of all.

Just imagine finding out that people you thought where friends decided that the world was better off with out you, the assholes who call you a wifebeater over a one time thing while while guys like Richards, Stark and Logan are treated as heroes. He has ever right to be angry at the world.

>>24935312
Shut up Richards, Pym had you beat in that dick measuring contest.

>>24935320
World War Pym.
They need to do this.

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>>24935312

It's not my fault that your daughter likes me better as a father figure than you. Don't take it out on Pym. He's done more with science than you ever have.

Hey guys! Is this some kind of party? I love parties! Do you have whiskey?

>>24935342
WWUDD seems like a silly initialism.

>>24935274
Is there more to this?

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>>24935274
No one knows the true history of the mercenary and freelance spy known as Kismet, nor even what her real name might be. Some say that she is the granddaughter or even daughter of the legendary Doc Prophet, Man of Marble. Others claim that she is an exiled scion of Russian nobility (or perhaps a former KGB-trained agent). Still others speculate that she may be a clone, or a genetic super-soldier designed by the government and gone rogue. What is known for sure is that she's one of the best in the business and that she has a reputation for incredible luck.

That luck almost ran out a while back when she ended up on the wrong side of an operation against what turned out to be a front for a powerful criminal with access to advanced super science. That would have been the end of her had it not been for the intervention of Archer.

He offered her an invitation to join FORCE Ops. She accepted.

>>24935320
>>24935338

Hanks original appearance was as one of those spurned scientists with crazy ideas, telling people they'd regret laughing at him in Fantastic Tales (or whatever it was).
Literally, the only thing that stopped him from becoming a Lex Luthor style supervillain was that he got laid.
Jan was literally the only reason why Ant Man wasn't one of the Avengers most dangerous foes, leader of an Amry of upsized Microverse vassals, backed up by the Ultron machine which would later betray him.

Look at his methods and success rate, he's basically a supervillain already, he just happened to be working on the other side of the street.

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>>24933926
Oh god this is basically your group OP

>people defending Pym slapping Janet

You guys do know he slapped her because she dared to suggest that building a robot to attack your friends so you can beat it to prove you deserve to remain an Avenger is just a little nuts right? I'm not saying Wasp is not and has never been a huge bitch but Pym was completely out of line in that instance.

>>24935372
A little. Not very much. That's pretty much her whole backstory.

>>24935387

Yeah but he was out of his head on medication/insanity at that time iirc.

It's as defendable (If not more) than everything Phoenix related.

>>24935387

Mr Fantastic has slapped Sue for less. But then again, that's Mr Fantastic.

It's kind of telling when your Ultimate version of you goes full Supervillain but he's STILL less of a douche than you are.

>>24935378
Her backstory is not-having-a-backstory?

>>24935387
Dude. Hulk destroyed New York, Cap And Iron Man are responsible for this whole civil war bullshit. Pym is a saint by comparison.

>>24935387

They're taking it out of proportion. He doesn't have a history of spousal abuse: He just hit her that one time. It's bizarre how they act like he's CONSTANTLY been an abusive boyfriend.

It's like - Imagine if Captain America was considered a misogynist because he punched Madam Hydra before. That's insane.

>>24935387
He was in the wrong, but so what? People make mistakes. You're not abusing your wife (or vice versa, abusing your husband) if you use physical violence pretty much just once in your life and obviously regret it afterwards.

Mistakes are made and that's why forgiveness exists.

>>24935410

Yeah but by those standards, it's a pretty good not-story. Very evocative and a GM could take it all sorts of places.

>>24935430
>>24935425

Plus it's worth pointing out that the entire Yellowjacket thing was basically a massive schizophrenic episode for Hank. He was NOT a well man mentally during that period.
He never really got out of the habit of doing things the way a supervillain would do either. Nor did he ever quite cotton on to the fact that just as Reed Richards cannot into Spaceships, he cannot into Artificial AI's.

>>24935410
Pretty much. Mysterious cipher mercenaries were a pretty big deal in the '80s and '90s. There are a few details of her mercenary career, but they don't establish anything about her origins and wouldn't mean much if you're not familiar with Freedom City in any event.

>>24935425
Cap also hates foreigners. He once punched Hitler.

>>24935456
You know, technically Ultron was a success.

>>24935386

Are those pouches skin tight?

Damn liefeld.

>>24935470

...is it weird that Cap's probably punched more americans than he's punched Nazi's now?

>>24935485
Latent self-hatred?

>>24935456
Artificial AI's.

Artificial artificial intelligences?

Either you're thinking of Vis, or are retarded.

>>24935477
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Nightrage?

>>24935485
Now heroes fight with other heroes more than they fight with villains. Soon comic books will not even need them.

>>24933926
It pains me to know there can be entire groups of people who are so sincerely 90's.
Or who think trenchcoat-katana is "so badass"

>>24933926
>Play a Mutants and Masterminds with a group I don't like.
That's your own damn fault, the consequences are yours

>>24935482

In what context? All hank did was take parts from an android that the FF4 picked up, dumped them into a dustbin, which then became sentient, escaped from his lab via explosives and then reappeared four months later in a body wholly of it's own devising.

If he was AIMING for that, then well done I guess?

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>>24935378
Finally, we have rock star Rick Van Danski. He had it all: fame, fortune, and a stalker fan. Only it just so happened that this particular stalker was a century-old vampire named Melinda who wanted him to be her eternal consort.

Friends and associates thought Rick was simply strung out from endless partying, but in fact he was suffering from strange fever dreams of late-night visitations and slow and steady blood loss. When Melinda finally transformed Rick into one of the undead, he rejected her. She, in turn, swore vengeance and began by abandoning him to his curse.

For a time, he isolated himself. Then, he tried to make due with blood taken from animals and blood banks. But the beast within him craved fresh, warm human blood. He channeled into nightly hunts for the wicked and became NIGHTRAGE, scourge of muggers and rapists who dwelt in the dark corners of Freedom City.

When located by Archer, Rick initially rejected Archer’s offer to join his new team, not wanting to be around people, but concern over his fading humanity led him to accept. Rick maintains his music career. He still records and even performs (at night, of course) and his reputation as a mysterious, brooding, sunglasses-wearing recluse has only enhanced his mystique.

That's right. A vampire rock star vigilante. Nightrage is the best.

>>24935512

Actually, nothing has changed. Superhero groups would fight each other all the damn time. The first time the Avengers and the X-Men crossed paths they had a massive ruck with absolutely no questions asked.
It wasn't until Magneto appeared and asked them what the fuck they all thought they were doing on his front porch that they patched things up.

Hell, the same thing happened with the Defenders and Avengers too.
Basically, Heroes have ALWAYS fought heroes for the flimsiest of reasons, Civil War was simply that writ large. The only difference was that there wasn't some evil mastermind behind it all for the heroes to band up against and defeat.

>>24934795
>I was actually picturing impact as the sentry

>>24935338
I'd read it twice.

>>24935521
He was trying to make an AI. It worked.

>>24935538
>Fangirl vampire
I don't even
This is like something from one of my bad korean cartoons

>>24934505
>(So they could get a cut of the EXP they tell me)
Fffffucking no one play M&M for "EXP."

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>>24935564
Same here, Anon. To the OP, this is easily the best thing I've read all morning. Five Stars, nigga

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Impact's true strength is something of a mystery. All that people know of him is what he shares with them; or rather, what he can push himself to do. He has a strange drawback where his transformation into a mighty hero had an increased affect on his worst personality trait.

Lethargy.

He initially only displayed his powers of flight when 'floating' down streets to avoid the efforts of walking. Soon he was forced to demonstrate greater offensive strength when people attempted to kidnap him under the assumption that he was a low-level hero who could be harvested and sampled to pull the power of flight from. The reason he fought back was because they made him forget what he wanted to order at Panda Express.

As time went on he was repeatedly propositioned by 'teams' to join in the hopes of them whipping him into a fighting machine and eventually he grew sick of it. He purchased a set of footie pajamas, gave himself a makeshift cape using a pillow case, and he was ready. Almost.

Spending the extraordinary effort of 5 seconds, he chose the name Impact and was ready. Masking tape in the crude shape of the letter I was the final touch. Spreading rumors of his intense training before flying to his secret tree house, Impact was able to convince the city his powers came from an ultimate method of training that must be performed in absolute solitude. Naptime was nearly secured but the constant troubles brought about by other supers woke him again and again. After defeating a villain he had a bright idea, "Fuck it, I could just kill all supers and be done with them."

And so he set out to do so rather slowly.

>>24935597
You can't even play it for PP ("EXP"), considering they're handed out arbitrarily by the GM at the end of each session.

>>24934827
>20 blast.
That's more than fucking Superman. Hell, that's as much blast as Darkseid has. What the fuck PL was this guy? I don't care how many Power Points he had. If he was, say PL 12, two whole PLs above the group. That'd mean he'd have an attack bonus of +4. What, did he make it Perception so he didn't have to roll or some shit?

>>24934827
>The DM looks confused and tells us "oh, I thought you guys could take him

I can only imagine what this guy's D&D is like: "Oh, you guys can't kill three spirit trolls at third level, well the plot was getting away from me, so I figure we could be done with D&D now and play some Traveller".

>>24935705
The DM gave him a few extra points to fit his backstory or something. I forgot the the justification for it.

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Are they like 14? Why would people behave in such a fashion without a hint of irony?

Pic related, it's Tomorrow Man

>>24935705
It was probably area.
20 blast is really easy to get.

It's 2/R for blast, then add 1/R for any area thing, and 20 blast costs 60 PP before you add flaws.

>>24935737
Yeah, that'd work in 2e, I guess.

>>24935749
Works perfectly fine in 3e too.

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>>24934827
For some reason I thought of the people you took down non-lethally being tied up and like 30 meters away, yet Push and Impact double back and kill them anyway.

>>24935750
No it doesn't. Perception and Area powers are capped at the character's power level regardless of trade-offs.

I actually wrote up a concept for a team like this.

Most of the members were experimented on by a shadowy organisation and the other guy had a rival who worked for said organisation that had killed his master and lover

Soul Cutter
Blood Burn
Deadweight
Stealth

Together they formed TEAM X-TREME! Dedicated to taking down evil hiding in the dark with XTREME Prejudice!

Of course the difference I was setting out to make a team as 90's as possible intentionally...

>>24935759
I just reread the trade-offs and you're actually right, my bad.

>>24935802
Yeah, it's an easy thing to miss, just that one little sentence there, especially if you played 2e first and just sort of skimmed over the stuff you already knew. It took me a while to notice it myself.

>>24935609
Nice~~

I actually have a question about M&M (third edition).

I'm playing with a group from /tg/ (thankfully they're all pretty cool guys) and I'm playing something of an urban mage. I've been trying to get the concept of a Reality Marble to be integrated into his skillset as a sort of last-resort Deus Ex Machina-style "holy shit I had no idea that worked" comic book ass-pull because every comic book hero needs one of those, but I can't figure out how the hell I'm supposed to create a Reality Marble in M&M.

I've got ~29 PP to play with for it.
I'm just not sure what kind of thing would allow me to simultaneously create a "field" as well as buff my character in any meaningful way. Preferably not defensively. He's a glass cannon, and this Reality Marble thing is supposed to transform him into a glass orbital bombardment satellite

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>>24935858
OK, sure, let's see what a Reality Marble is:

>The concept of a Reality Marble (固有結界, koyuu kekkai?, lit. innate bounded field) is having one's inner world materialized and projected onto reality following the World Egg (世界卵, Sekai tamago?) theory. Generally, it is used to refer to the alien common sense of demons (悪魔の持つ異界常識, akuma no motsu ikai joushiki?) in that it is how demons perceive reality and how Reality Marbles themselves are the natural abilities of demons and elementals. It is possible for humans to achieve this as an innate Bounded Field, though generally only in the cases of the powerful beings like The Twenty-seven Dead Apostle Ancestors and the greatest of magi who have spent years upon years researching. This ability is a similar and dissimilar method of "world creation" to Marble Phantasm, but rather than reshaping the world at their will, Reality Marbles allows only for the creation of a set world that defines the practitioner.

...

Uh, take, uh, Extraordinary Effort.

>>24935881
>That stuff you said.
Guh?

>>24935705

He was Impact.

The world's greatest superhero.

>>24935893
He didn't even have a kitana or a katana or knife-hands. He was maybe the second best.

>>24935858
So... what exactly are you looking to do?

>>24935858
Probably just a fuckhuge AoE damage thing that's fluffed as teleporting to the reality marble and fucking everyone's shit up.

Would help if we knew the character theme though.

>>24935888
It is basically overwriting your surroundings with your inner world, where the laws of the world aren't what they usually are but are instead defined by your self.

>>24935888
The Fate/ Franchise is shit, don't feel bad about not understanding it.

>>24935910
In all seriousness, I'd probably spend those points on more normal powers and represent his 'super mode' through descriptors and the use of Extra Effort and Hero Points. 30 PP is a huge chunk of your character's build to only use in 'emergencies', and the other choice is to have your character using their super-move all the time.

>>24935729
>Why would people behave in such a fashion without a hint of irony?
In the '90 they did all the time!

>>24935919
Also, you can represent this by using power stunts to buy APs of whatever your main magic thing is. Magic (especially the high-stakes anime action kind) is like a free pass to do whatever kind of impossible glowing-rune craziness you want.

>>24935796

Really? I got:

Paragon - Blonde, blue-eyed Nazi supersoldier taken out of stasis, repurposed as Captain America. He was formerly known as Panzermensch Siegfried, and is a true child of the third Reich.

Actually quite naive and friendly. Well, except for the Nazi brainwashing they weren't really able to remove.

Anthem - Sonic-controlling hero and the world's greatest rock star, took the government's offer rather than get charges for a girl who OD'ed.

Fracture - Glory hound with Earth powers, thanks to a genetic mutation. His powers were further enhanced by Moonquake's stolen gear.

Blue Eagle (Actually RED EAGLE) - A former Communist superhero who defected to the US side once the Cold War was over. He only really could fly, but he could fly DAMN WELL.

He used his sonic booms to take down jets.

...The whole concept of the game was 'close-to-supervillains repackaged as heroes', a la the Dark Avengers, and they still came off as rather more heroic in appearance.

>>24935910
Oh, in that case, I'd go with Enhanced Advantage: Inspire 5 with a mystical or cosmological descriptor. You expend your energy and, for a brief time, force events to conform to your vision. You might pick up the Luck advantage and Luck Control power, too, except instead of representing luck it could represent rewriting reality.

Beyond that, you're looking at power stunts and other uses of Extra Effort

>>24935926
1990 was 23 fucking years ago

>>24935910

I reject your reality and substitute it with my own?

>>24935929

> Paragon

BWAAAAKKKAAA. GERMAN SCIENCE IS THE BEST IN THE WORLDDDDDD

>>24935910
That's totally an actual power in Aberrant.

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>Dark Hand, Blood Mind, Vengeance Blade

This group is so edgy I cut my fingers typing this comment

>>24935929

What the fuck. That must be the most dysfunctional team ever. How would they not be able to tell that the leader is a nazi?

>>24935951
Hell, that's basically the explanation for nova powers in general.

>>24935881
>>24935904
I basically just want to be able to create what is fluff-wise a small area that is my character's "favored environment". Rewriting/reshaping reality on a small scale in a very specific way.

>>24935888
It's weeaboo shit.
Now, I ain't a weeaboo, but I watched Fate/Zero at the request of a friend, and I quite liked the idea of shifting reality to what the user's state of mind is.

>>24935905
That could work, but I already have an AoE damage thing that's up to my Power Level in terms of damage.


The character theme is basically a mage in the modern day who has fantastic talent but very little knowledge because he's been taught magic spells from his lineage of mages rather than what magic is actually about. As a result, he's angry that nothing he does is truly his own work, and he's never figured out how to manipulate magical energy beyond the spells he's learned and, when it comes to combat, just taking huge amounts of it and smashing it on people.
I was imagining the Reality Marble would allow him to sacrifice all his defense to just go all-out on offense.

>>24935919
It's in an array so it's only really 1 PP.

>>24935927
I'm inexperienced with the system so I don't use power stunts a lot. Or at all.

>>24935936
Luck might work but Inspire only works for my allies and almost every single other spell I have is only good for supporting my allies and doing damage, so I kinda wanted this to be my "bullshit-card" that I see so often in cape comics.

this thread sort of reminds me that a guy with the godget power can make his gadget a book that casts magic, and just churn out all sorts of powers for it because magic relies on alternate powers to do literally EVERYTHING. gets you something like 600 PP worth of shit for the price of something like 20

>>24934132
"Blood Mind" is probably the single most retarded character name I've ever had the pleasure of reading.

>>24935957

If he's wearing a flag on his chest and carrying a shield, no-one would be able to tell who's wearing the costume. That's sort of the entire point of a superhero's secret identity.

>>24935957
Maybe he is an ex-nazi? You know like Von Braun and rest of those guys.

>>24933926
Your character is the only one I find even remotely interesting I guess Impect has some potential as well, but I probably shouldn't get my hopes up about him seeing as he has one of the most unimaginative names ever and I have seen no backstory on him at all. You should feel good about that. Now you just need to get as far away from that group as possible,

>>24935994
Read the thread.
The fun never ends

>>24933926
Are you sure you played Mutants and Masterminds and not the Bloodpouch?

>>24935957

To be fair, he never actually fought in WWII. He was part of an eugenics program, flash-frozen until he was 'dethawed' in the modern day.

So he was the peak of modern potential, but entirely naive about the world. All he knew was what had been encoded into his sleep-training, so he took to his new life rather well.

The funny part was, he was still a Nazi at heart. He would - When he wasn't paying attention - blurt out phrases like "Jawohl, mein Kommandant!" and make the Nazi salute.

I forgot: We also had a free-running French ninja, L’Étranger. He was basically a modern-day The Shadow, down to the twin handguns. Very much a lady's man.

He attributed his superhuman stealth to LE MISDIRECTION.

>>24935929
Hah, neat. As for the powers of Team X-treme:

Soul Cutter- Master of supernatural swordsmanship/martial-arts style he was taught by his now-dead master, performs incredible feats of physical ability and can shoot soul blades from his school's unique TRIPLE-BLADED mystical katana. The 'cool' quiet and mysterious one when he isn't fighting his rival, another student of his master (Now evil, on super steroids and with wearing shredder like spiky grimdark armour)

Blood Burn- Was a soldier, but then got kidnapped and had his family murdered by said shadowy organisation. Was experimented on and ended up superstrong and with 90's HUEG MUSCLES, also his blood burns like acid causing him constant pain and his healing factor is the only thing keeping him alive, has a bit of a temper. Uses his strength to wield HUEG liefeldian guns.

Deadweight- Athletic zombie soldier created through a twisted combination of dark magics and science, wears a trenchcoat and hat to hide his dessicated appearance and fights with a pair of hooks on chains, can also conjure hellfire letting him immolate as he impales. He's the snarky humorous one of the team

Stealth- Artificially created clone chick assassin from the organisations lab, can become invisible, has retractable talons in fingers and can inject people with paralysing toxins with bites from her fangs. Needed to round the group out a bit and someone to hit the female 90's cliches.

>>24935962
Yeah, I'd say it sounds like a power stunt. You know, like a big Affliction that you pull out of your ass that leave your enemies vulnerable. That or Extraordinary Effort to buff an effect +2.

>I was imagining the Reality Marble would allow him to sacrifice all his defense to just go all-out on offense.
You could apply flaws like Distracting to reduce the cost and get more bang for your buck, maybe apply Perception to your Area attack so they don't get a save. Or, Hell, just an All-Out Attack or Power Attack.

>Inspire only works for my allies
Well, yeah, that's true, but it's also an extremely powerful effect that could very easily represent the rewriting of reality. The thing about Inspire is that it bypasses Power Level completely and gives a potentially huge bonus with no real restrictions. It really is a kind of trump card that can turn the tide of battle. You just have to rely on teamwork to do it.

>>24936032

>Blood Burn

So he cuts himself to FEEL ALIVE?

Good god.

>>24935962
Thinking about arrays...
I may be reading into this wrong, but they seem to be horribly unbalanced.
As in:
Get Leaping, flight, blast and damage 8 for a total of (Roughly)18 PP.
Now, considering I will never use them all at once, I now have travel, close combat and ranged combat sorted for just under 20PP.
Am I wrong in how this works? I'm a little confused.

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>>24936018
DID SOMEBODY SAY 'BLOODPOUCH'?

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>>24934422
Needs an X in there somewhere.

>>24934603
Impact and Wolf are just 90's. The rest are Too 90s To Live.

>>24934704
>>24934718
>>24934722
Amazing. I'm amazed that people can manage it, honestly.

>>OP
I can't beleive you out 90s'd pic related. But your group has left this so far behind that it's a special kind of awful.

>>24936046
Well, usually your travel powers would go in one array, your attack powers in another, and so on.

>>24936065
Ohhhhh....
...
Still pretty cheap though.
If you did put them all in one array, is that even legal ingame?

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Stat me /tg/.

>>24935902
He had a big gulp and footies.

>>24936026

>He attributed his superhuman stealth to LE MISDIRECTION.

My sides.

>>24936099
Oh Lord, that fucking comic, like what's his name said, you cannot have an anti gun message in a story where you use guns to solve all your problems.

>>24936063
Nyte Forxe.

>>24936046
Mutants and Masterminds is broken. I have played this for only a short while and I know this.

That's why you cooperate with your GM. You're making a fun, stylized character, not a powerful one.
That's why my mage doesn't have Quickness as a power despite having both Artificer and Ritualist and Expertise: Magic +20. If I had Quickness, I could literally just churn out a trillion devices and rituals giving me every effect in the game within minutes.

But that's not fun.

>>24936038
I'm not even sure how power stunts work. You spend a hero point and you get an alternate effect, right? So it's like adding a new power to your array for a short while?

Even if I use this power as a power stunt, I still need to figure out what it does.

I really like the idea of All-Out Attack. That would be a Feature extra for my Power if I took it, right?

I'm really, really awful at M&M rules, to be perfectly honest.

As for Inspire, while it's undoubtedly very powerful, I don't think it fits my character concept and power is less important than the roleplaying aspect for me.

Thanks for the help, but I'm having a hard time understanding the specifics of how to set up the power.

>>24936063
Xtreme Nyte Force?

>>24936123

Nyte Force...

X-TREME

>>24935910
>>24935942
>>24935962

So basically you want to turn the battlefield into jungle? Warrior Jumper.

>>24936089
Technically, yeah. Some people do it, but it sometimes create headaches for them. I probably wouldn't let it fly in my game, though some GMs do. It's not really what arrays were intended to do. They're supposed to save people from having to buy what are essentially redundant powers over and over again at full price even though they can only use one at a time.

Generally, you're going to have a Move Action Array (movement powers) and a Standard Action Array (mostly attack powers, though other things, like healing go here, too). Some advanced player create other kinds of array, like defensive arrays that let them switch up their defenses on the fly, but it's not something most people need to worry about.

>>24936099
Superman is fucking orky!

>>24936131
That would be the legacy team

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>>24935295
>Punisher is on team with Deadpool.
Explain this. Please. I must know. The Spidey/Doc Ock thing too.

>>24936112
>First point
The best part is that the system KNOWS it's broke, but they emphasize that the game is about theme and atmosphere, not power level. You shouldn't be making the strongest hero possible. You should be making the hero you want to play, the hero you want to watch Saturday morning cartoons or read comic books about. You can break it, but why would you?

>>24936151
Save your soul while you still can. You don't want to know.

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>>24936123
>>24936131
Haha I'd complain you guys were stealing my name but then I was inspired in the first place by Marvel's
>>ADAM X THE X-TREME

>>24936163

Good god, no.

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>>24935538
>NIGHTRAGE
SO 90S. CAN'T HANDLE IT. OH GOD.

>>24936112
>That would be a Feature extra for my Power if I took it, right?
I'd just buy it as an Advantage. Then you can use it on any attack.

>power is less important than the roleplaying aspect for me
Then you're doing it right. Trying to power game in Mutants & Masterminds, particularly 3e, is an exercise in disappointment for all involved.

>I still need to figure out what it does
Well, what do you imagine happening when you use this power?

>>24936112
>>24936146
>>24936156
Thanks guys. Still in y first game, still trying to get the kind of character I wanna be.

>>24936142
I was thinking more Madoka-style Reality Marbles than Fate-style ones.
And not so much a jungle as a battlefield saturated with magical energy.

>>24936156
The best thing is how unsatisfying it is to break the system precisely BECAUSE it's so easy.

>>24936112
>So it's like adding a new power to your array for a short while?
That's exactly what you're doing. You caught on pretty quick, actually. Arrays and power stunts are really difficult concepts for a lot of people to grasp.

>>24936178
Actually, on that note...
What sort of powers would you guys associate with superspeed?
PL8 for reference I suppose.
I'm thinking:
Illusion limited to movement (images of yourself)
Wall & water walking and obstacle avoidance limited to movement
Multi-punch
Enhanced senses
Some way to get a whirlwind
...and I'm stuck, maybevisible concealment limited to movement?

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>>24936209
This was made for you.

>>24936209

VIBRATING PUNCHES

THROWING THINGS REALLY FAST.

Super-strength from an 'INFINITE MASS PUNCH'.

The ability to cause explosions by snapping your fingers.

Basically, everything Wally West in the Geoff Johns run could do. (Gotta hand it to him, too - He made a man in a BRIGHT YELLOW costume scary.)

>>24936209
Sonic booms
Static electricity
Friction burn

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>>24935729
I thought this was Tomorrow Man. Because 90s.

>>24936111
>>24936123
Xtreme Nyte Forxxe-X

>>24936162
Oh, but I do. If only so I can know what I'm pretending never happened. It can't be worse then the proposed blues brother sequel would have been.

>>24936173
Essentially, I want to create a sort of makeshift arena which is, fluff-wise, an entirely separate reality.
If you've seen Madoka, think about those trippy as fuck scenes with weird, otherworldly backgrounds and an enclosed area that cannot be broken into or out from without excessive force.

Now, I'd be using my defensive array (that is to say the array I have which focuses mainly on things like Deflect, Nullify (Magic) and the like), so I'd be sacrificing all of my defensive capabilities (I deliberately have very low toughness, dodge and parry) for the sake of, well, benefits. I'm not sure which benefits, but making my spells do more damage would be a good start at least.

That's what I imagine happening. A reality shift that empowers my character to the point where he just becomes total bullshit and then he's probably gonna be exhausted for a day or so afterwards.

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>>24936229
Speaking of, let's get this out of the way (again).
Here's the 3e primer package, containing:
>Hero's Handbook (core)
>Gamemaster's Guide (extra GM tools/info
>Power Profiles: a bunch of official packets that describe different power sets and what effects they may have
>An Excel-based chargen tool (though I prefer Hero Lab)

http://www.mediafire.com/?9oona2742oqbdlu

Attached to this post is the GM's kit, which lets you build a character block-by-block for quick and easy chargen, especially if you need a hero/villain on the fly.

>>24936236
>He made a man in a BRIGHT YELLOW costume scary

Zoom or Sinestro?

>>24936209
Leap?
Immunity to bullets/mundane weapons?
Environment? You could probably make it cold or hot as fuck.
Deflect might make sense too

>>24936262
Sounds like something out of Arcana Heart, though that's just me.

>>24936236
Well, most of that Geoff Johns stuff would be inappropriate for a PL8 guy, buy he could technically do it. The guy to look at more if Jay Garrick, honestly.

>>24933926
So you played '90-style super game. Ugh.

>>24936293
I'm afraid I don't know what that is

>>24936278

Okay, both. But I really liked the Hunter Zolomon Zoom. He was just creepy as hell, and brought an intensity to the role the original didn't.

>>24936300
It's a fighting game franchise where the entire cast is female and they all have magic and junk. Look it up.

>>24936229
THANK YOU
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>>24936284
Thank you
...
This is gonna be fun.

>>24936262
op: when I get home, in twenty minutes, i will stat the shit out of this power for you. I love building m&m powers.

>>24936262
Someone mentioned Inspire but is there anything like that but for debuffing enemies? Maybe you could make some sort of aura that weakens the defenses of enemies which could be refluffed as your attacks getting stronger.

Sorry if there isn't anything like this, I've never played or even read the M&M books.

>>24936301
Agreed, Zoom is probably the best of Wally's rogues

>I'm teaching you how to be a better hero Wally.
>Lesson one is over.
>Time for lesson two.

>>24936044
Cutting yourself won't really make a difference when your blood is constantly burning you from the inside.

Honestly the acid blood making him feel constant pain is like his murdered family, intentionally over the top grimdark nonsense. I do worry that I spent too much time writing the background details of a team who are meant to be over the top parody clichés though, might make them seem too legitimate.

>>24936262
Okay. Well, to do more damage with a spell, you can either Power Attack (assuming it's an attack that rolls to hit) or use Extra or Extraordinary Effort. Extra Effort can add +1 to your effect and Fatigues you, Extraordinary Effort can ad +2 and Exhausts you. If you ask nicely, your GM might give you permission to use the Power Attack and All-Out Attack Maneuvers at the same time, effectively trading points of defense for damage.

>>24936341

Honestly, Geoff Johns is REALLY, REALLY good at writing the Rogues in general. Rogue's Revenge - Where the Rogues fight Zoom and Inertia/Kid Zoom - is possibly my favorite story.

>>24934888
>This is how I superheros

I'm going to make this my next character in a superhero game: Black Heart

>>24935951
It's also a DnD spell: Create Demiplane

>>24936262
One nice thing about having crappy defenses is that you can get knocked out a lot and thus potentially accumulate a bunch of Hero Points (the DC Adventures Hero's Handbook actually recommends this for wizard types). Have you looked at Fortune Advantages?

>>24935959
Well, yeah, but Planck Scaling and Universe Creation do this specifically.

>>24934282

>The Exemplars
>Not approved

What the hell? That's a great name!

>>24936099
I made a character with superstrength who basically dual-wielded a pair of those gatling-cannons, if you're gonna go for it you gotta go all out!

>>24936411
Yes, and it was a terrible group who thought nineties cumstains were sincerely good characters. No wonder they didn't use it.

>>24936336
Weaken is an effect

>>24936032
>triple bladed katana
So what, it's a shitty mace?

>>24936032
>Deadweight
HAHA
FRESH MEAT

>>24936385
I haven't really, no.

>>24934944
One of the players detected.

>>24936336
That sounds like a Selective Area Affliction, probably Perception, too. That means that it'd affect every enemy in the area. Pretty expensive and capped by your PL, but still powerful

>>24934984
>I think SHOCKER tried to do that in Kamen Rider.
Oh Showa Era...

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>>24936459
Its a parody of shatterstar ya mook, just kicking it up a notch.

>>24936474
Well, none of them are real relevant to the discussion of what power you want, but some of them are pretty neat. Ultimate Effort, for example, which lets you treat a single kind of roll (chosen when you select the advantage), such as a particular Skill or Defense as though you had rolled a 20. If you're strong willed, you could get Ultimate Save (Will), for example.

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>>24936496
Showa Era is Best Era.

>>24936498
Oh, triple-bladed. For some reason I thought it was triple-edged.

Still, triple-bladed is a lot less effective.

>>24935929
I like it, for some reason.

Like, it'd have to be campy as fuck, but it's pretty cool.

>>24936543
Well yeah, the whole concept is supposed to be ridiculous at its core.

>>24936313
>the entire cast is female and they all have magic and junk
Dickgirls?

>>24936597
No. Would be interesting, but no.

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>>24936625

My favorite one is this.

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>>24935940

Stop REMINDING me of these things, you motherfucker!

HOW DOES TIME PASS SO FAST

>>24936131
>>24936252
X-treme Nyte Forxxe-X Xtreme XX?

>>24933926
>kind of cheesy
that's the fucking point of supers

>>24936633
Exponentially faster the longer you've lived.

>>24936089
You can only switch your array's mode once per round, so if everything is in one big array you'll run into issues when you need to move and hit people at the same time.

In a chase for example you would need to alternate between shooting then moving and moving then shooting, which could waste half your actions if the bad guy is always trying to move out of range.

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>>24936698
NUUU we are MATURE ROLEPLAYERS who play MATURE SUPER GAMES with MATURE STORIES. Not your faggoty superman shit.

>>24936727
Wait, what?
I haven't read anything about a "one power from an array per round" limit.

>>24936744
>Alternate Effects cannot be used or maintained at the same time as other Alternates in the same array; they are mutually exclusive. Switching between Alternates requires a free action and can be done once per turn.

>>24936770
Well, fuck.

>>24936744
That's the limit behind arrays: you can only use one power at a time.

>>24936743
People got paid for writing this shit.

>>24936780
And arrays can apply to a lot of different things, not just powers. You can have an array of vehicles (Batmobile, Batboat, Batcopter, etc.) as well as an array of headquarters: you can't be using two or more at the exact same time, can you?

>>24936780
I was aware of that, but I wasn't aware you could only switch once per turn.

So, this thread's got me interested, and my group's been looking for a change of pace from Pathfinder.

Is there a giant know-all M&M site, like d20pfsrd for M&M?

>>24936779
It's not like PL 10 characters are exactly squeezed for points. You can pretty easily cap your saves and damage and still have room left for a pretty high ranked movement power, some feats and skills, and some flavor powers.

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>>24936800
See >>24936274
You can also find it for free on a d20srd site.

>>24936807
To be honest, it doesn't affect my character even a little. I just felt stupid for missing it.

>>24936796
Makes sense, when you think about it: you can only use one array power, and you only have one standard action per turn.

>>24936800
There is, yes.
It's called d20herosrd

>>24933926
I like the idea of playing Midnighter as a guy with a strong no-killing ethic.

>>24936843
Some powers are free actions.