You are Ssen, a Lamia raised by a human Paladin who adopted you after killing the ones who birthed you. You are grown now, and Father has passed on. After a great deal of work, you have become a Paladin like your Father, and now take up his duties. You are accompanied by your best friend from childhood, the insect druid Tricia; Mage, a magic user who ran away from his family of cannibal raiders known as the Ghouls (Yes, his name is Mage. It was his idea); Persephone, a 22-year old thief/ex-guerllia fighter (She goes by Peri), and Mari, a 13-year old prodigy scholar/now sniper, who has her mind and soul trapped within Peri's body; and Lea, a deeply religious musician/martial artist, trained by her father, a famous trainer for arena fighters, she's covered from her mouth down in bandages to hide the horrific state her body has become thanks to the 'cures' that saved her from cancer.Your journey continues...Opening theme song (NEW for Season 2!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5si7w3uS9tUhttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lamia%20Quest1d4 chan page w/battle stats: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:Lamia_Daughter_Quest
Coral Gate held many surprises, some good and some unfortunate.The good was that the lamia you saw had an elder sister, still a girl herself. Their mother had recently passed away and they were happy to go with their new 'Auntie.'Also, one of the Mer, a girl named A Mistake After Too much Absinthe' aka Abby (spelled D-A-N-A) decided that she had enough of serving under the rule of 'King' Paladin Trevor.The unfortunate surprise is that Trevor, in his blind quest of hate against Citadel, sent the majority of the Mer who lived in Coral Gate to campaign with a new champion: the 'Fallen Lightbringer' Adhan. Trevor had no idea of what Citadel really was, and no knowledge of the Dramatae or any idea of how he was playing straight into their hands. Their target was the Leviathan, the giant ship that hung just outside of Stone Hall's docks.The Leviathan has enough firepower on it to level Stone Hall to the ground. Not to mention that there's been no end to the rumblings coming from Citadel, about how they are dissatisfied with Stone Hall and Bronze Peak's new behaviors. All they need is a good excuse, and the army of Citadel will be knocking at the city's door.You scrounged up a small ship, took Dana and the lamia girls, Ssai and Ssah, with you, and set sail. You took a quicker, but far more dangerous route, hoping to beat Adhan and his army to the city.Your trip through corals, riptides, and rapids proved to be too much for the good ship Kassat, and a nasty crash saw your mast snap off and fall into the depths of the ocean.Thankfully, with some quick actions, some judicious magic from Mage, and a large amount of properly treated seaweed, you were able to turn the Kassat's sail into a massive kite, and you blew your ship back into harbor, six hours before the deadline.The lamias have been dropped off with Granny. The sun is shining, and the water is sapphire blue. It's a beautiful day...and in less than five hours, it's all going to go to the Darkness.
Welcome back echo. Hope you had a good rest.What's first on the agenda now? Check in with p/meri at the manor?
>>24708279We should talk to the other former lightbringer whatever her name was, and tell her than Adhan is coming and she might be needed.Also we need an ending theme for season 2
>>24708327the other lightbringer is in bronze peak. no way we can get there.
>>24708353I thought she was in stone hall.
>>24708327No time... its several days away with Nightmare and she was left behind. I think we should get those barley sticks first, before we forget about them. Then perhaps simply walk the streets of Stone Hall. Breath in the reason we fight.
>>24708312no, no, I remember.First on the agenda:Go to the candy shop.
>>24708365nope, bronze peak. Running a hair salon.
Aww yeah here we go.First up is picking up bribery candy
Something occured to me overnight that made me facepalm. Doesn't the book of Leviathans have extensive maps of tides, weather, coastlines and all that lovely oceanic stuff? Taking a few minutes to peruse it probably could have saved us quite a bit of trouble in the rush to sail to Stone Hall.
>>24708467I knew about the hair salon but I thought it was in Stone hall. Oh well.Yeah first is finding some of that candy
>>24708492I don't think we kept it with us.
>>24708492.... it might have gotten us another bonus to ship steering, but that wouldn't have saved Dana or Mage.
>>24708492Nah, we left it at the Lighthouse. Greg has them all.
>>24708403The man behind the counter of the store is a little confused as to why the Paladin Serpent is in his shop, purchasing some penny candy."Are you sure you don't need anything else?" He asks, very confused as he wraps up the barley sugar sticks in wax paper. Tricia nods as she munches on some honeycomb. The fact that she doesn't seem to mind at all that there's honey dripping down her hands is also weirding the clerk out.
>>24708366>I think we should get those barley sticks firstThis, then make sure that the city defenders are prepared for the attack should we fail and it gets past us.The others did warn Paladin Avery when they went for our stipend right?
>>24708561It's complicated paladin stuff, please don't inquire further.
>>24708561Its for someone who has been in a slump for a while. Apparently its his favorite and I hope to cheer him up. Thank the shopkeep and lets go on to the next order of business. Maybe see how Dana likes our home.>>24708582We can check on that at the lighthouse. If they aren't back yet we'll head to the Manor anyway.
>>24708561We should try something and possibly bring some to Granny and the kids later on if it's good. But what..?
>>24708612Agreed. Lighthouse then Manor, if Peri/Mari are not there.
so, I've been thinking of sending a message to the titan, to prevent it from shelling stone hall in the confusion if we happen to fail:"To the captain of the Leviathan-Greetings, and I hope you are found healthy in these strange times. I write to you about matters of great import. There is a military force advancing by sea upon stone hall, which will arrive within the next ten hours. I will be leaving to conduct peace talks immediately after sending this letter, the failing of which means I will be captured or killed. This means that if I fail, the defense of stone hall falls to you and the local militia. Please assist in defending the city in any way that you can, if the worse comes to pass. I apologize for making your day markedly less relaxing, and I thank you for protecting the fine peoples of this land.-Paladin Ssen Patrick"Y/N? It would perhaps increase mer casualties, but it would decrease stone hall collateral. Think about it.
>>24708642Simple, Ssen just needs to think of things she loves to eat that could be put down to being a Lamia, then buy some.Another thread started as I'm going to bed, hope it's here in the morning (or the thread is active at least).
>>24708612"Its for someone who has been in a slump for a while. Apparently its his favorite and I hope to cheer him up." You say as you pay the man for the candy.The three of you look out the window when you hear a series of bells. The shopkeeper frowns and looks at you. "That's the evacuation alarm." He says. "Is...is this another drill? I know Paladin Lord Avery fines people who don't follow, but there wasn't one scheduled for today." He looks at you. "Is this...is this just a surprise drill?"It's a little sad that the people of Stone Hall know the feeling of fear so well. You can see it on the man's face.
anyone else have trouble posting?
>>24708642Granny seems to be stuffing their faces with meaty goodness. Best not to spoil their dinners
>>24708728Today has felt a bit sluggish for me. might be cus I have 3 different threads open at once.>>24708716I've only recently come back to the city, I am not aware of anything that is going on. Rest assured that I will do all in my power as a Paladin to keep the city safe.
>>24708716"No, there's an army of Mer coming this way. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to give their leader candy."
>>24708716That's an important question. I don't think we know the answer, do we?
>>24708716"I'm not sure. I'll have to speak with Paladin Avery about this. For time being I would follow what you've been told to do during such times."Change of plans. Head over to Manor is or where ever Avery would be leading from.
>>24708769Remember we're trying NOT to start a panic here.
>>24708769He doesn't need to know that, we don't want to cause panic
Guys, hold up a second.It's not a drill, because the Leviathan know the mer are coming.The whole thing's a complete setup, not just the false leader for the mer, but also the attack itself. They're going to walk in there and they're going to be slaughtered.Alternatively, the Leviathan's not going to do shit, and the mer will raze Stone Wall (ostensibly a Citadel-loyal city) to the ground.
>>24708834Stop just stop. Can we please not jump right on to the crazy train from the word go.
>>24708834Either way, we need to stop that army before people start dying.
Or, The Leviathan will have some "difficulty" with getting started until the mer are in the city proper, at which point they will begin shelling the city as a "Neccessary sacrifice for the good of citadel as a whole"
>>24708881Since when does the Leviathan care about 'Danger Close'...
>>24708716"Here's praying that that's all it'll end up being. For now, We must ask that you follow procedure and put your practice to use."Maybe we can pay for him to take some candy along with him and give away to any panicing young along the way? Morale needs to be kept up, and seeing the children happy helps people keep hope.>>24708907exactly
>>24708834Plz lets skip the paranoia for now, thread isn't even an hour in...
>>24708778"I'm not sure. I'll have to speak with Paladin Avery about this. For time being I would follow what you've been told to do during such times."The man nods and goes to get his family so they can get down into the tunnels.You and Tricia make their way to the Manor, you see Peri/Mari there waiting for you, and a squad of Occuli leaving."Avery's sounding the alarm." Peri says. "He's also mustering the troops and sending a message to the Leviathan, as well as Bronze Peak and the other coastal towns. I told him we're going to try to talk them down, we'll get our chance...but if the Mer come into the bay with weapons drawn and without us, the Leviathan's got orders to fire upon them." She sighs. "Other than that he's ordered evacuations, and mustering the Red Occuli to arms to be ready. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not...but I think he's still putting on armor or sending ravens. If you want to talk to him." Mari says.
>>24708961>leviathan brain>skip the paranoiagood luck!
>>24708986Seems like Avery's got the home front covered. Let's stop that army!
>>24708986I'm not sure that Avery has any more to tell us, we should get our diplomacy going before everything goes to hell
>>24708986Avery is a competent Paladin. He's got it under control. Right now we need to stop those Mer
To the army. Time to try talking Adhan out of his stupor.
>>24708986"No time for a chat, if he's willing to give us a shot, then we best get on with using it."Mayhaps we could acquire one of those flares, and when we spot the warband, we fire it off to possibly halt their advance? Approach with the party behind us, and no weapons drawn. keep the shield up just in case of arrows or projectiles of any kind.
>>24708986"no, that's good enough. It wouldn't be fair if one side was dressed for battle and the other wasn't. We still need to stop it though. Let's make haste to the boats, avery can handle the defense.
>>24709100The flare could be seen as a hostile action
>>24709127Seconded. Perhaps we should get a few flares?We fire one off if everything goes to hell, two if the situation is under control?Extra flares are in case some get waterlogged.
>>24709374Diplomacy list:FlaresSugarsticksShieldWhiskeysnacksam I forgetting anything?
>>24709374So, one for a "go ahead and attack", two for "things are all good", and three or four extras? My apologies for the question, but what's the ettiquite about names and trips in here? This is the first time i've been in a thread since it starts, and I'd like to know if I should just stay anon throughout.
>>24709479Trips are only useful if you are a writer or someone with knowledge. Or if you want to be a bad-roll scapegoat.
>>24709479I've been anon since thread 1.
>>24709479If you use a name everyone pays attention to you and Echo gives you special privileges and the only thing you have to give up is your dignity.
>>24709116"No, that's good enough. It wouldn't be fair if one side was dressed for battle and the other wasn't. We still need to stop it though. Peri/Mari, can you get some flares, just in case?"Peri nods, and runs inside, then she comes back out after a little while with a few signal flares."I got these and told the Occuli. They said that one means open fire, two means all clear." She says. "They said that they'll be watching for our signal.""Okay, let's make haste to the boats, Avery can handle the defense. If he's willing to give us a shot, then we best get on with using it."You head down to the docks, and have a pleasant surprise there waiting for you...well...semi-pleasant."Hey Sexy Scales." Isen says. He's in his full armor, and Tara's behind him with her large iron club. "I'd love to chat and flirt, but we've got an army to rout."Dana and Lea are there, along with a, still tired looking, Mage. She shrugs. "He was at the Lighthouse, and he insisted on coming.""Also, I have a ship." Isen points to the schooner that's being made ready for sail."It's a very nice ship." Dana says."Oh this isn't anything my sweet Mer maiden." Isen says smiling at Dana. "When this is over, you'll have to see my entire fleet. I'm sure you'll be impressed with my mainmast."Dana looks at him and frowns. "Huh. Is he aware that the female Mer reproductive organ often contains sharp needles and hooks that are used to extract the male reproductive organ? Because I was not aware that Human physiology was similar to Mer's in that parts of the body can grow back after being removed."Isen goes pale and just walks away from Dana.You all look at Dana. She winks. "Because if he is aware of that, please inform him that it's just a rumor...at your own time." She says quietly.Tara laughs and slaps Dana on the back. "That was totally hysterical." She sighs. "So, umm...do you have a plan or something like that?" She asks you as you all get onboard the C.S.S. Audacious.
>>24709540"We're going to give the terrible leader of the fell army some sugar sticks.Then set him up with a date on his girlfriend."
>>24709540I like Dana. She's great.
>>24709540>need more flares to signal all clear than to attackCalling it now: all but one of the flares gets waterlogged.
>>24709536Hey, you. Check your privilege.
>>24709536Oh lovely, I gave that up a long, long time ago.>>24709540The plan is to head out, and meet them before they can begin doing any kinds of damage. Try and convince them to stop the attack, and hopefully even pull the leader out of his citadel-haze.>>24709588Oh god, why u giving EG ideas?
>>24709540When he leapt at the poison kiss I thought Isen's audaciousness was impressive, but now he's turned away just by a hook-lined vagina? Pathetic.
>>24709540"Talk, talk some more. Hope talking works. If talking fails... Well, I'll use my fist to get through to them. Oh and penny candy."
>>24709626look, he's a bit traumatized from the poison kiss.He didn't think that one through.
>>24709626A hook and barbed vagina that will tear his dick off.
>>24709626This is his dick we're talking about
>>24709652He'd kiss a snake dripping with venom and not that? Jeez Isen.
>>24709626Temporary vs. permanent damage. The man knows his limits.
>>24709652Yeah, but it's only a dick. Lamia poison is well known to slowly and painfully melt all your bones until you die. Even we were surprised that we had a paralytic.
>>24709693I think he figured that poison wouldn't work without injection and all that crap.
>>24709693He also knows we'd never kill him. He was the first (besides Mari, I think) to push the whole 'be a paladin' thing, he's got a lot of faith in us.
>>24709693And yet a human's hardness down there doesn't directly rely on bone strength.>>24709728Also this.
>>24709728either that or he's running some kind of long-game xanatos gambit schemes to get into our skirts.
>>24709717>>24709728Also it'd be a better way to go kissing a hot snake chick, rather than screaming in agony as you're castrated.
>>24709540"I'm glad you two are coming with us for the diplomacy, by the way. Always good to have more friends. I hope you guys can swim!"
>>24709756I don't think we wear skirts
>>24709831what do you call the bit of armor that goes past our human bit and onto the tail for a few feet then?
>>24709831Yes we do. Sort of.
>>24709845. . . Leather Bikini?
>>24709845On plate mail they're called faulds.
>>24709902Nobody wants to get stabbed in the cloaca.
>>24709902>>24709920"One tough cloaca."
>>24709896Huh! Didn't know that.
>>24709938And knowing is half the battle!And the other half is shooting someone
>>24709920Except possibly in the innuendo sense.
>>24709628"Talk, talk some more. Hope talking works. If talking fails...well, I'll use my fist to get through to them. Oh and penny candy. Maybe set him up with a date with his girlfriend." You say."Oh, okay." Tara says. "That sounds like a good plan.""I'm glad you two are coming with us for the diplomacy, by the way. Always good to have more friends. I hope you guys can swim!" You say."Enough to not drown," Tara says. "And Isen says he's the best swimmer in hi-""Spare us." Tricia says. "But really, can he swim?""Yes." Tara says."Alright, lets go meet the evil army." Lea says.You shove off and set sail. The Audacious isn't huge, but big enough for you to move around the deck freely and not force anyone to trip over you.You said out for an hour, and then you see them...or at least him. Adhan is standing on the water. It looks like there's a black cloud of water below, supporting him. Behind the man you can see the signs of a large number of beings under the water. There has to be close to 300 or 500, probably more hiding deeper under the water. Adhan himself looks very different. His armor is now slightly more practical. Solid, well covered, and all of it pitch black with runic script around the edges. Still, those large spikes that he has coming out of those oversized pauldrons are just asking for trouble. Just as Trevor said, he's wearing a smooth featureless obsidian mask, which he can probably see through, but still, is there something wrong with a basic helmet and face place? Also, he still has that stupid haircut, only now it's hanging over the mask, which just does not work.His sword is unsheathed and hanging low at his side. It's the same too big, too heavy, unnecessarily engraved, piece of junk that he had before. Only now the motif is less dragons/suns/light and now more skulls/fire/darkness."That is who's going to take MY city from me?" Isen snorts. "Wow...yeah, no. I will not be conquered by a walking billiard ball with bad hair."
>>24709964"No, that'll be the job of the hundreds of Mers behind him if we can't talk them down."
>>24709964Ten gold says he looks like this underneath.
>>24709964>Isen in charge of calling someone out on gaudy styleI lol'd."The mask really doesn't suit him."
>>24710027I really don't know what sort of person that outfit would suit.
>>24709964Give Isen a dope slap and tell him we're here to talk so we should not mention the kid's absurd outfit right now.
>>24709964"At least you look normal Isen."
>>24709964"Sadly, it wouldn't be his doing but the army at this back. That's the real threat. "I also still think that sword is silly."Well we might as well get this whole show going. Call out to him. "Hello! Can we talk for a second?"If people have better call out go for it.
>>24709964To be fair, aesthetics is kind of a moot point if you have an army marching behind you and are probably leaking enormous destructive magical energy.Pic related. You almost wouldn't have thought that he ushered in an age of prosperity and learning, only to tear it down a century later and bring mankind to extinction.
>>24710089He isn't that terrible, aside from the weird looking sword
Rolled 14Here's hoping negotiations go well.
>>24710073"Lightbringer, I beseech you. We need to talk, No swords, no fighting, just words. Please."
>>24710170I don't think we should call him Lightbringer. He's probably bitter about that on account of not being a Lightbringer any more.
>>24710191Agreed. Though I don't remember his name anymore. I just call him Mr. 'Whatever'
>>24710191We could try to dress it up as the Lightbringer not being a position that you can throw away or forsake. Once a Lightbringer, always a Lightbringer. Although that might just be playing into the drama that the Dramatae have planned. Not that we aren't already doing that.
>>24710191I'm sure it doesn't matter what we call him, he's just going to answer with "Whatever."(If he doesn't, that means that something is up.)
>>24710204Adhan, it's in the last post
His girlfriend's name is Ava, right?
>>24710191Doesn't he think he's marching on a corrupt city? I'm under the though that he still thinks he's a lightbringer himself, and that everyone else isn't.
>>24710228Read right over that.>>24710246So we think.
>>24709964"Billiard ball or not, he's got a sense for the dramatic. The standing-on-the-water look is a really good touch."
Rolled 20>>24710249I doubt he's thinking anything right now. He's probably mind-whammied like Mage's dad was.
>>24710369why you gotta waste that nat 20?
>>24710249He told King Paladin that he hates Citadel now. And he must sort of notice his new outfit. But maybe you're right and he's just a really deluded liar.
>>24710369we've broken a mind whammy or two. It's kinda difficult, but possible.
we don't know what new narrative the dramatae have him mind whammed into believing.
>>24710369He's also really easily emotionally manipulated. I suppose ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL would be a quick way to turn this into a victory for the Dramatae, but it seems that all of their good writers were retired over petty reasons. Peace and Tragedy don't seem really creative, given how Peace was kinda "meh" when she was in an advantageous position when Tricia was making the pact.
>>24710405that's part of what we have to find out here.So a neutral"Hello there. Care to parlay?" Might be the best bet.
>>24710384not a liar, an idiot. Because he truly believes Peace over the person he supposedly loved.
>>24710424to be fair, we SAW him getting mind-jiggered when he stabbed her.Like, in the magic-memory.Unless ava edited the end to make it less tragic and prevent us from prosecuting adahn.Which could have happened.
>>24710424I mean lying about hating Citadel. Because you can't be a Lightbringer and hate Citadel. He's an idiot as well, that goes without saying.
>>24710441Moot point. Even if he wasn't mind-jiggered then, he is now, so the solution is the same.Wrap n' slap, the no.1 solution for all your mind-control needs.
>>24710463well, assuming sugar-sticks fail.
>>24709964When we call out to him, requesting Parley, let's ensure we raise our hands over our head, with Clang on our arm and Beacon still on our back.
>>24710073"The mask doesn't really suit him. I agree. At least you look normal, Isen. Sadly, it wouldn't be his doing but the army at this back. That's the real threat. "I also still think that sword is silly." You say. "But he has a flair for the dramatic, the standing-on-water is a really good touch."Isen just rolls his eyes. "Your show, Scales." He says.You have the Audacious turn so your right in his path. "Hello!" You yell as you wave. "Can we talk for a second?"Adhan and the army slows in their march. Then comes to a stop. With a grunt, Adhan jumps from his position and makes a three point perfect landing on the deck of the Aduacious. Slowly he rises and turns to 'look' at you."Speak." A raspy growly voice says. "Then get out of my way."
he was the light bringer, now he's the shaper of darkness the light bringer is supposed to kill. he probably does hate the citadel, and doesn't realize hes still a pawn.
Rolled 12>>24710491What would you say if I told you I had a way to destroy Citadel?
>>24710491"Just have to ask, but why exactly are you leading an army of Mers against Stone Hall?"
>>24710463Alternate solution. If he won't see reason, we propose a combat of champions. He'll get to settle his grudge against us mano a [snakewo]mano. We'll beat his stupid ass into the ground and disable him if possible.
>>24710491resist the urge to give a golf clap for that sweet landing.How should we start this one? I'm thinking something as simple as"Ava forgives you. She lived. Would you like a sugar stick? I hear you like them."
>>24710491"Now now, there's no need to try to intimidate me. I have no present interest in being your enemy. I just came with a question, what are you trying to accomplish here?"
>>24710491"I would think it be easier if you spoke. What are you trying to do, here?"Trigger the prewritten monologue! If nothing else it will buy us time.
>>24710491"You are making a mistake. This *motion to the mer* will not do anything but end in bloodshed. Haven't you had enough of that in this lifetime?"Offer candy if he seems like he's opening up at any point during the convo.
>>24710491"I think it's about time you know what is going on, why you were chosen at first to be a savior, and why now you have been chosen to be the enemy."offer him his snack, if he thinks it's poisoned toss it to Mari/Peri.Then give him the story, how he was a sacrifice, how he is still a sacrifice. etc.
>>24710491"Ava's alive. She forgives you, Adahn, and she would like to see you. She also wanted you to have this-" present the barley sticks.
>>24710529>>24710540>>24710565Do one of these first. Ask him what he's doing here.Then do the ava forgives you thing.
>>24710491Geez, this guy. So much style, so little substance.It would've been like ten times more intimidating if he just suddenly appeared in front of the group without any warning.
>>24710821I really like the jump. It was all I could do to restrain a golf clap.
>>24710529"I think it would be easier if you spoke. Why exactly are you leading an army of Mers against Stone Hall? What are you trying to accomplish?" You say."The city is of no importance, the Leviathan has the prize that I seek." He says. "But I know Citadel's workings. I know that the Chimmeri will fight to the death to protect their precious Stones of Summer. Thus I send this to them." He gestures to the horde. "And while they are busy with this, I will be able to claim what I need...what is mine by right." He points to his blade. You notice that there are five circular indentations within it. Looking like something fits within. "You would do best to go back to your home and prepare Paladin. Prepare for the end of Citadel's warmth for the cold shadows are coming and I am their herald.""What is he talking about?" Isen asks quietly. "I've read every story in Citadel's library, I've never heard of any Stones of Summer...and are YOU guys the Chimmeri? Sorta?""Ssh." Tricia says. "Don't upset him.""You wish to save your people and hold true to your Light? Then let me pass, for I am what has been withheld from Citadel for so long. The time has come for the great reaping...and you can either stand aside and manage what is to come...or die like the rest."
Rolled 18>>24710912The fastest way to end the Citadel would be to retire with Ava.
>>24710912"You have absolutely no idea what is going on, here take a candy and sit, it's time that you know the truth about whats going on."
>>24710912"I can't let you start a war for your personal vendettas. Why don't we sit down and talk? We have no love for Citadel either."
>>24710912Is he seriously trying to bring eternal winter to the land by stealing some rocks and putting them in his sword? That plan is so stupid on so many levels.
>>24710912"And From where do you draw knowledge of this quest you're on? From an old man? From another wall? Here, take somecandy, and let us enlightne you as to what you've been doing, and how you can help us bring the light into Citadels darkness!">Proceed to recap everything. Dramatae, Land Spirit, Dragon who was of Shadow, everything he doesn't already know, and needs to, as well as dispelling the mind melt he's got going via either prayer, or medallion.
>>24710912"You know that Citadel's warmth is already ending, right? Let me tell you about the time someone tried to kill me because it rained in Citadel..."Not being entirely serious, but worth bearing in mind.
>>24711052its a dramate plan, don't think book plot, think video game plot.
>>24710912",'And you intend to cut down the darkness? With what, a blade that can only cut flesh?', Adhan, listen to me, the Citadel cannot be fought with a weapon nor an army. "
>>24710912"There's no such thing as "Stones of Summer", there's no such things as "Chimmeri", and the ones who told you about "Citadel's inner workings" are the same ones who turned you into a Lightbringer in the first place and made you try to kill your girlfriend. They also happen to work on Citadel's behalf... thus why they've sent you to attack Stone Hall, one of the few cities where Citadel has lost its grip.""And yes, I said "try", by the way, because Ava's alive. She's a hairdresser now."
guys remember. He doesn't actually believe in any of this... its just been put into his head.Here. Have a Barley Stick. Ava says they are your favorite. Would you like to hear how she is doing?
>>24711177Specifically offer the barley stick as we explain things to him, because Ava told suggested they were something he liked before Citadel's agents ruined his life.
>>24711163There is such a thing as Chimmeri, Granny said they made the blood moss.
>>24710912Sigh. He's being very silly. Then this: >>24710595
>>24710966"You have absolutely no idea what is going on." You sigh. "I can't let you start a war for your personal vendettas, and from where do you draw knowledge of this quest you're on? From an old man? From another wall?"There's no such thing as "Stones of Summer", there's no such things as "Chimmeri", and the ones who told you about "Citadel's inner workings" are the same ones who turned you into a Lightbringer in the first place and made you try to kill your girlfriend. They also happen to work on Citadel's behalf... thus why they've sent you to attack Stone Hall, one of the few cities where Citadel has lost its grip."And yes, I said "try", by the way, because Ava's alive. She's a hairdresser now."Adhan's head twitches at that. He shifts his grip on his sword."Citadel's warmth is already ending. And even if you intend to cut it down, do you plan to use a blade that can only cut flesh?, Adhan, listen to me...here..." You take out the packet of wax paper and hold out the candy."Have a Barley Stick. Ava says they are your favorite. Would you like to hear how she is doing?"Adhan turns to look at the candy. "It...I...It doesn't matter." He says. At least the harsh gravel voice act is done. "Ava is gone, and I am beyond simple things like her, silly Lightbringer stories, and certainly candy that only babies eat." He pushes your hand away. "Put that away, and move or I will have you all killed." He says. He sounds more like he's pouting than anything else.
>>24711325 After these messages, we'll be right back...
>>24708642i know this is late, but we must somehow get Granny, Ssah and Ssai some icecream once this blows over, remember our reaction to it after all.
>>24711325I knew we should have brought Ava along. She'd at least make this interesting, instead of pathetic."If you're beyond 'silly Lightbringer stories', then why are you masquerading as the villain of one? Look at you! You're as cliche'd as they come right now!"
>>24711325"Fine. If you don't want it." Open our mouth and make like we're going to eat it.Let the psychological warfare commence.
Whatever we say next we should pull out one of the barley sticks and lick it before continuing and hold one out and say "You sure you don't want one?"
>>24711325*eat one*"Oh please. Whats the point of being an adult if you can't be childish now and then? Besides Adhan, take a moment. Think about the situation you are in right now. Because I'm seeing a lot of similarities between then and now. Only now you are going at this by yourself and on the other side."
>>24711325"Man the fuck up and eat the candy while I explain some things to you. What you do after that is your decision, but I won't have you make that decision based solely on the lies you've been fed by Citadel and its agents."Accompanied by the dreaded Paladin Stare.
>>24711410this hehThen something like this: Adahn what was your name before you got caught up in all this. Ava told me hers. Lily. Its a pretty name. I liked it. Its a shame you don't want to remember those who gave you yours. After your Sage arranged for them to be killed someone should live to remember them.After all you are on your way to do the same to some other young man.
>>24711441Throw in a Voice of JUSTICE to inspire guilt.>I'm pretty sure a Voice of JUSTICE could easily silence a black knight wearing full spiked bloodstained plate with a simple statement. >black knight>spiked plateMan, whoever wrote that was some kind of prophet.
Also add in that Ava did our and Mage's hair. Shes very good. Has a following of faithful customers already.She does want to see you again Adahn. The only reason she isn't here is because she doesn't want to fight if it comes to that. Not anymore.
>>24711325"Oh come now, they're really good. Enjoying a piece of candy doesn't mean you're a baby, it just means you know what you like. Well, the offer stands. Ava forgives you by the way. She wants to talk to you. She's not part of one of the silly Lightbringer stories anymore. Now, she's just a girl you knew who wants to see you again.As for ending Citadel's reign, this isn't the way to go about it. If it is going to end, it must end with a whisper. Don't give your foes a reason. Don't give them something to avenge.So come on, would you at least halt your host to meet with Ava? No one is ever beyond redemption, Adahn; and nothing is ever so broken that it cannot be fixed with love, willpower and a little humility."
>>24711492There was a table for it or something. As I recall it summoned 1d6 Brian Blesseds...
>>24711492>>24711441He won't respond to yelling just yet. First we need to plant some more seeds of doubt.
>>24711492SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, AND EAT THE CANDY>... but I...SIT DOWN>... yes ma'amGood, now isn't that better? EAT THE CANDY>... whateYOU'RE NOT EATING
>>247115751d12 Brian Blesseds, actually>>24711589I figured that a Voice of JUSTICE doesn't have to be a shout -- think of Batman, or Superman's "World of Cardboard" speech, for some non-shouting Voices of JUSTICE.
>>24711580It's not yelling, it's the Paladin stare. It shuts him up for a while while we plant said seeds.If we do it right, he may still be bitch-whipped by the time of the first Doubt harvest, or even the first Doubtoberfest.
>>24711589I wonder what level a paladin we need to be to do that.Are we a high enough level right now?
>>24711660we only have +2 on most of our combat rolls, and some of that is equipment... so I don't think we are a very high level.
>>24711634The voice of justice can also be the voice that your mom puts on when she's about to all you out on something you did as a child. The one that sends shivers up your spine just thinking about it.
>>24711660We've Paladin-stared better men than him into submission.
>>24711660>what level of paladinGranny before being beaten back by the Dramatae.
>>24711697But... doesn't it work BETTER on better men?
>>24711690It's also sometimes called the "danger voice".Like my mom... "Ah tell yah you be cruisan for ah bruisan mah baby boy".
>>24711717No because they already know what (if anything) they did was wrong. They've already got their shit straight. There is a peak ripeness of guilt which is the root of vulnerability to the Paladin-stare. Too wicked and they don't care, too good and they already know.
>>24711717First off, he's a low-level commoner with some half-decent brainwashing and no actual combat experience. Second, he clearly knows on some level that he done fucked up.It shouldn't be that difficult.
I sort of want to challenge him to a 3-round match of fisticuffs to settle our differences
>>24711837"Tricia, hold mah flower."
>>24711837right now hes souped up on Citadel magic. It'd be an almost impossible fight.
>>24711871Glorious.>>24711872Perhaps. I'd still like the chance to try quick-quick enhanced boxing one day.
>>24711558But yea what do y'all think of this? Trying to plant the seeds of doubt. We want it to seem so easy and tempting to come over to the good side.
>>24711558>>24711954I like it.I want to explain to him that citadel WILL fall if he doesn't give it a cause to rally behind.A cause like, say, an invading monster army? Without something like that, citadel can't support itself any longer.
>>24711954Hence the candy. Tasty tasty goodness, literally.Incidentally, 'twould be a bad idea to appeal to his life before being Adahn, methinks. If Ava is any indication, Lightbringers seem to prefer being Lightbringers over -not- being Lightbringers.On the other hand, Ava didn't have the Doomed Hometown.
>>24711983Unfortunately if you don't know about the Dramatae, the Lightbringers and Citadel's true purpose that sounds unbelievable.
>>24712004>>24711954>hence the candyHardest part of this whole plan will be Ssen eating the candy. She's a fucking carnivore. This is barley gum. It's probably nasty as shit, and hard to chew.
>>24712035carnivores can stomach a bit of grain. Worst case? She swallows it whole.
>>24711325It's not the candy that's going to win him over. It's Ava. That's what gave him pause."I saw what happened, when the one with the mask made you stab Ava. The masked one, so-called "Peace", said afterward that Ava didn't love you anymore, and you didn't need her. But that's not true, Adahn. She's still in love with you, and she doesn't want to see you sacrifice yourself.You've read the Lightbringer stories. You know how they end. You're being set up here. They're playing on your emotions, trying to cut you off from how you really feel. You enjoyed your life with Ava; don't you want that back? Because she wants you back."
>>24711805>and no actual combat experience.They did actually do some fighting. Ava really didn't like it, part of the reason she wanted to stop.Also he's got magic backing him up. Who knows what they've put into that armor.
>>24711983Yeah, part of the "Don't give them a reason-" bit.>>24712004Hmm I think it might be risky to bring up his life before being Adahn, though, since it's just as likely to summon a longing for a normal life as it is to remind him of his IMPOTENT REVENGE QUEST.
>>24712064>Oh, come on, it's really good. Even adults enjoy candy once in a while>take a bite>eyes water up>can't chew properly>just swallow it all whole and be done with it>play if off like that's just how lamias doI am already chuckling.
>>24711325Pop a candy stick in our mouth."Well, if you insist on not having fun, do you at least mind if I have one? Great. Anyway, I fink ou shoold reevahluhate the shichuashun. Ou ahr heer becaush Shitadel wansh ou tah attahck Shtone Haall. Itsh one of two free shitiesh an ey wan a new Lightbringer, shee? Sho ey wanna do both at onesh, an ey wan ou tah be the one to do it.""Because you're still part of their story, and they're still trying to use you. Here, have a candy stick while you think about that. It's good for the nerves."
>>24711983That does seem plausible, if we can get him in the right frame of mind to listen. I'm thinking we get him to open up by talking about Ava and using that to convince him that Peace lied to him about her not loving him anymore, and that'll get him in doubting mode where he could at least consider the idea that what he's doing will only make Citadel stronger.
>>24712134"Anywaysh, ou cahn shtill go back, ou know. Ava shtill caresh about ou, an I know she'd be here ash shoon ash she could if you wanned tah talk to er."Then finish the candy."You haven't lost everything. Not yet. Not by a long shot. But if you do this, you WILL lose it all. Not just Ava, not just any hope for a future, but yourself. Everything you once were."
When Ava came to you in those mountains she wasn't saying she didn't care about you Adahn. She wanted to find more about the man behind the 'whatever.' Find out if you and her could be more then what your Sage planned for you. Even now she asked me to remember her and if at all possible bring you to her... safe.
>>24712190I wish we brought some economics papers.If we showed him the MESS of bronze peak's loan information, and told him that yes, the entire kingdom has similar problems, he'd be more likely to believe us.
>>24712291why would he care?
>>24712291You honestly think Adahn would understand financial paperwork?The guy can barely tie his shoes.
>>24712301It illustrates citadel falling apart? Though, >>24712311raises a more salient counterpoint.
>>24712311>The guy can barely tie his shoesAlso explains why he has to wear a helmet for everyday activities.
>>24712384But the helmet is so cool man!
>>24712311All this poor fool knows is how to be sad.
>>24712311Maybe if we convince enough people that he's a financial wizard, he'll shift into exactly what we describe him to be.
>>24712412We're using a complex system of strapping right now, right?
>>24712470WE HAVE A LEGITIMATE PROBLEM
>>24712493well it's not our fault the blacksmiths can't figure out how to armor a snake.
>>24712596I'd imagine a series of plates, one for each broad "belly-scale" an all of them clinging tightly to that belly-scale. The plates would be surfaced like a rasp and given a slight flange outward on the tail-ward edge so as to catch the ground a little. That way we'd still be able to move.
>>24712493>>24712596Speaking of: have we ever tried tying a ribbon on the tip of our tail?I bet you 5 coins Tricia would love it. Isen too.
>>24712686I think we're too tomboyish for that.
>>24712696I didn't think we were so tomboyish. Not any more than any of the OTHER adventurer ladies.Heck, we got our hair did. When we had a chance and the time.
>>24712696Agreed. But next time we have occasion to don formal wear, I say we put our hair up in an elegant bun. It's feminine enough to be particularly dainty compare to Ssen's normal look, but not uncomfortably so. And I wonder if Tricia would like it.
>>24712763>formal>putting hair EVEN MORE UPI say we let our hair down if we're ever in a formal. It's always a pony tail.
>>24712749There's a difference between caring about how we look and being girly
IDEA! If we ever want to drive Tricia absolutely nuts:1. Acquire 10 L of honey2. Cover self in honey3. Add flower petals for pollen4. Address Tricia: Your move, Ladybug...
>>24712797Maybe on our anniversary.And if we're absolutely sure Isen won't walk in through the door instead of Tricia.
>>24712797Nobody wants honey in the cloaca.
>>24712797That- that's so... INDECENT!!!Spoiler your lewdness, please. This is a classy establishment.
>>24712797>Cover self in honeyThat would be disgusting.
>>24712797Wake up covered in ants
>>24712898I think that was the idea, as long as they were friendly ants.
>>24712898That would be Tricia.
>>24712898>>24712909>>24712921Ants? In my cloaca?It's more likely/erotic than you think.
>>24712134"Oh come now, they're really good. Enjoying a piece of candy doesn't mean you're a baby, it just means you know what you like. Well, if you insist on not having fun, do you at least mind if I have one? Great." You pop one of the barley sticks in your mouth and you try not to wince. Ugh...maybe Tricia, and other humans, thinks these things are okay, but you are NOT a fan. You'll stick with honeycomb when you want sweets. "Ava shtill caresh about ou, an...uh...hold on..." You spit the chunk of candy out. "Ugh.""Hey, don't waste those." Adhan says."You haven't lost everything. Not yet. I saw what happened, when the one with the mask made you stab Ava. The masked one, so-called "Peace", said afterward that Ava didn't love you anymore, and you didn't need her. But that's not true, Adahn. She's still in love with you, and she doesn't want to see you sacrifice yourself."You've read the Lightbringer stories. You know how they end. You're being set up here. They're playing on your emotions, trying to cut you off from how you really feel. You enjoyed your life with Ava; don't you want that back? Because she wants you back."But, if you do this, you WILL lose it all. Not just Ava, not just any hope for a future, but yourself. Everything you once were.""She doesn't love me." Adhan says. "I told her that I loved her and she said to my face that she didn't. I've loved her since I saw her. I saved her life from the Ghouls, and she was my first...my first...just my first. I did all sorts of nice things for her. I made sure she never got hurt, and I was always there to help her. And what does she do when I tell her that I love her? She spits it back at me! That's not how it works!" Adhan says. "She's not even here.""And thank His Light for that." Tara mutters."Ssh." Isen says. "I wasn't much better at my start."
>>24712973>>24712921>>24712909NonononononoI really hope Tricia can keep herself together.
>>24712898At least it's not BEEEEEEEEESS
>>24712973It is becoming concerning how many times we've said cloaca in this thread...
>>24711325"Tell you what, you put a few of these away, and I'll explain to you why what you're doing here is a mistake. You'd better take a few of them, it's going to take a bit.""But hey, you're supposed to be some kind of "Harbinger of Doom" or something, so what does it cost you to listen? So our "doom" comes a few minute later. You could at least listen to the parts about Ava and Citadel."
>>24713005"So. It -does- matter then? It's only natural. Look, I'm not going to claim to be an expert on romance, but she wants you safe, she wants you back, and she misses you. If that's not love, then take it for what you will.Sit down, maybe eat some sugar sticks, and I'll try to explain this entire convoluted ages-spanning tragedy. You've nothing to lose, listening to me here and now.
>>24713005"See, that's the problem. She is in love with you, but not like this. She's not in love with the Adahn that has something to prove, a mission to complete, a battle to win. She's tired of fighting. She's looking for the Adahn that existed before all that, before it was you two against the world. She wants the Adahn that still liked these, not the one that was too busy being a Lightbringer to stop and enjoy them.Suppose you knew the world would still be safe; do you really have to be the one that charges in and saves it? You seem so willing to sacrifice everything for the world. Would you sacrifice everything for her, for the love she still has for you? Would you sacrifice all this, the mask and the mission, and settle down with her?"
>>24713005She might not be in love with you now... but she wants to see if she can. She cares deeply. Otherwise she wouldn't have begged me to do my best to bring you to her alive and free of Peace's influence.She is willing to give you and her a chance Adahn. Isn't that worth something? She wants to know if what you and she have had was real. That is all. And with the amount of magic that pushed you two together, anyone would want to make sure.
>>24713005"You're so convinced that Ava doesn't care for you anymore, but you're wrong. Ava was scared, confused by the whole Lightbringer business. She didn't know what she felt and she needed time to figure everything out. She does want to see you again though; she isn't giving up on you. Think about it, Adahn; would a Paladin and her cadre really come all the way out here to attempt a bloodless end to this bearing nothing more than candy and a half-assed lie? Yet here we are.If you ever loved her, give -her- a chance to save -you-."
>>24713005"Yes, she DOES love you, just not what those Masked freaks turned you into. She wanted to get to know what YOU were like behind the ridiculous sword and armor: the real you. As for why she's not here, you know as well as the rest of us that she's not a warrior. She knew she'd be dead weight with the kind of hijinks we get up to, and probably didn't want to hold us back. I suspect that deep down she also knew that the next time she saw you... well, that you'd be like this.""If you really love her, drop the mask, leave your sword and armor behind, and we'll bring her here to see you. Not as Lightbringers, not as the tools of Citadel's perverted stories, but as yourselves.""You have my word as a Paladin of the Light that this isn't a trick. But if you refuse to stand down, a lot of people are going to die and you're going to lose any chance you might have had to finally do something meaningful, something above and beyond the lies of the Lightbringer stories: the right thing."
>>24713030What's concerning about cloacae?
>>24713295Snake-butts are always relevant
>>24713286This one seems to be a good summation of the others.I like it!
>>24713335>>24713295Only when Isen is around do these conversation happen
>>24713358If Isen posted in this quest, there'd be a lot more call for fapfics.
>>24713376DON'T GIVE HIM IDEAS. Citadel decided to start posting, didn't it?
>>24713399Nope. Citadel never posts in these threads.
>>24713399Not me this time, Homie. I'm just watchin and enjoying this popcorn.
Isen x Every Single Female Character plz.
>>24713399Too late, buddy. Just when you thought the quest couldn't get any better, THE COOLEST NAMEFRIEND EVER ARRIVES!>>24713376I'm appalled that you'd think I need it. No fiction, fap or otherwise, could ever be as awesome as MY real life.
... dear god this thread is going to collapse under the weight of the Ego it just gained.
>>24713475>I'm appalled that you'd think I need it. No fiction, fap or otherwise, could ever be as awesome as MY real life.You know, if you convince Echo to write it, then it's like it actually happened.
>>24713475>>24713461Oh god what have I done.
>>24713488Only if you have to roll for it, HEYO!ANOTHER WIN FOR THE AUDACIOUS ONE!
>>24713521You fool, you know not which you have invoked!
>>24713537Get off the damn computer and help with negotiations!
>>24713174"So. It -does- matter then? It's only natural. Look, I'm not going to claim to be an expert on romance, but she wants you safe, she wants you back, and she misses you. "You're so convinced that Ava doesn't care for you anymore, but you're wrong. Ava was scared, confused by the whole Lightbringer business. She didn't know what she felt and she needed time to figure everything out. She does want to see you again."BUT...she's not in love with the Adahn that has something to prove, a mission to complete, a battle to win. She's tired of fighting. She's looking for the Adahn that existed before all that, before it was you two against the world. She wants the Adahn that still liked these, not the one that was too busy being a Lightbringer to stop and enjoy them." You hold out the barley sugar sticks to him."If you really love her, drop the mask, leave your sword and armor behind, and we'll bring her here to see you. Not as Lightbringers, not as the tools of Citadel's perverted stories, but as yourselves."Think about it, Adahn; would a Paladin and her cadre really come all the way out here to attempt a bloodless end to this bearing nothing more than candy and a half-assed lie? Yet here we are. You have my word as a Paladin of the Light that this isn't a trick. But if you refuse to stand down, a lot of people are going to die and you're going to lose any chance you might have had to finally do something meaningful, something above and beyond the lies of the Lightbringer stories: the right thing."Adhan just stands there for a while. One hand reaches out for the wax paper. Then the runes on his armor glow, and there's a flare of not-violet light from his mask. He knocks the candy away and points his sword at you.(cont)
>>24713609Crap, looks like we're going to have to prize that mask off him if we want him to listen to us.
>>24713587Awww, you're no fun. That's all I EVER get to do anymore! And Sexy-Scales is handling most of the heavy-lifting even! Being a supporting character is suffering.
>>24713693Isen pls go
>>24713609Time to spend an hour attempting to constrict this guy
"Peace I name you. Peace I see your mark upon this soul. Peace, In the name of the Light, I cast you OUT!"(I doubt it will work hah.)
>>24713609Time for a combat of champions then. Let this entire war be settled by our duel.
>>24713770It worked before. It's worth a shot. It might buy us enough time to get him to take them off.
the funny thing is:we're not even in his way. He could just WALK RIGHT PAST.
>>24713708constriction probably won't work.I would suggest clang/beacon to build a charge. maybe a direct light shining on him will dispel the citadel.
>>24713979That'd take 3-5 hits, and even one means we've probably lost any hope of a non-violent end to this.
Rolled 2Damn, it seems like we got through to him before the mind-whammy hit.
>>24714008actually... it only requires SSEN take 3-5 hits.Even if she doesn't block with clang, it builds a charge.Are you martyr enough to stop a war?
>>24714008We can't constrict though, the guy's covered in spikes, which impractical though they may be, do prevent grappling being an option.
>>24713609"The Cold Shadow will fall." He says in that gravel voice. "The Stones Of Summer will be mine."His face glitches from side to side, like the Fell King did."Ugh...no...shut up, shut up, shut up!" Adhan says. "There's no need for that! I'll do it! I'll do it!"The glow stops. "You are such a bitch." Adhan says. "You ruined my life, and you're the reason the others died, and why Ava doesn't love me anymore. Now you're here screwing with my head again, but I wont be suckered like you did with Ava." He raises his sword. "You're dead monster."There's a sound of blades and arrows and charged magic. Adhan looks at the fact that he's completely surrounded by a group of people who are all armed and look very much in a 'Done With This Shit' mood."All I need to do is gesture." He says. "And this ship and you will be ripped to shreds by my army.""Maybe so, but you'll be starting your journey at the same time as we do." Isen says.Adhan swallows. "I...I..." His mask starts to glow again. "No, no, stop it. They wont listen to me like that! I said I'd do it!" He pants."Also, the Leviathan's watching us." Mari says. "They see our ship go down, they open fire with everything.""No...no this isn't how it works. I'm supposed to raid the ship and the town." He says. "I'm going to be reunited with Ava and help stop the Cold Shadow...I have to do this...it HAS to be me."The mask flares again. "Ugh...no! Don't...I'll so it. I'll do it. Just...just promise me that I won't die. I don't want to die."The mask glows again and Adhan straightens himself up. "Last chance. Leave, or my army rips this ship and you apart." He says. This isn't like those rote words the Fell King said, this is Adhan saying those words.
>>24713979>>24714008We don't strike him. We get charges when blocking with Clang. We fight defensively/evasively to reliably parry all his shitty clumsy blows whilst lecturing somberly in classic Paladin style. Then when Clang has built up enough charges, we GIVE HIM THE LIGHT.
>>24714063You'll die Adahn Every Bringer of Darkness has died. Along with Every Lightbringer.What do you think will happen to someone who was both?But you can live. With Ava. Take off the mask and live.
>>24714063"Neither of us is going to yield, you see. And that means we're all going to die, unless you and I settle this right now. I propose a duel. If you fell me, you've gotten you vengeance and my group will let your host pass unmolested. If I win, your forces will be left leaderless and driven back. Sound fair?"
>>24714063"Ava is waiting for you! Just stop. That's all you have to do!"
>>24714063"You say you don't want to die, Adahn? Tell me now that you want to live, for Ava, and I'll do everything I can to make it happen. Take that mask off, and tell me what you want. If you still want to attack us after that, fine; I just want to know that it was your decision and not anyone else's."
Rolled 2>>24714063How about combat of champions? You and me, one on one?
>>24714063Do you truly think this will work Adahn.You know the stories, the ones you are being forced into.You are a sacrificial lamb, first as a s Lightbringer and now as the Bringer of Darkness. Ana got out, and so can you. Please stop this, I can't protect you if you go through with the attack.
>>24714199That'll get us killed. Adahn is hopped up on all the meanest magic the Dramatae could pile onto him right now.
>>24714063"It's that bad, eh Adahn? How about we settle this with a contest then. If I win, you take off your helmet and I save your life by preventing this crazy war. If you win, you get to go on and kill yourself on the leviathan like you plan.Sound fair?"Also, what do we challenge him to. Just a to-the-yield duel?
>>24714262See>>24714261We need to get to his psyche, more than anything else. The Dramatae are probably pushing hard on him to go on with the act, or they'll do terrible terrible things to him. He's being forced to choose between making his own decisions and facing the terrible consequences, or go along with the story and face terrible consequences anyway.
>>24714063Wait a minute, we're missing something important here."What are they threatening you with, Adahn? You're fighting to keep your own mind, here; what's the threat that has you so afraid of disobeying? It's your life, Adahn; throw it away if that's what you want, but nobody has the right to make you sacrifice yourself. What do they want, Adahn?"
Can we just tell him to take off the damn Mask?
>>24714063"Who says it has to be you? Who told you that this job is yours and yours alone?Sigh."Nobody wants to die Adahn. But if you go down this path, there's a very good chance you will, no... that's guaranteed. It wont be by me though."If you just take that mask off AND think for yourself for once, not listen to those whispering to you or even me, for that matter. Ask yourself this. What do you truly want? Is it just not dying? Is Ana? What is it?"
>>24714353good point>>24714370better point
>>24714380Indeed. He doesn't want to listen to us, but he shouldn't have to listen to *them* either. He thinks so highly of himself; why should he listen to anyone else telling him what to do?
>>24714432No, I think Adhan does want to listen to us, but the Dramatae have something over him. And more than just the obvious.
>>24714496I agree. We need to find out what, and we need to get him to decide to stop listening. If they have some leverage over him other than the most obvious (the mask and the need to save the world), we can do something about that. Otherwise, we just need to get him to decide to take the mask off and decide for himself.
We could try to personally challenge him for control of the Mer, or even start telling them about the bounty and about how their home is defenseless due to the dramatae.
>>24714380"Nobody wants to die Adahn. But if you go down this path, there's a very good chance you will, no...that's guaranteed. It wont be by me though."If you just take that mask off AND think for yourself for once, not listen to those whispering to you or even me, for that matter. Ask yourself this. What do you truly want? Is it just not dying? Is Ana? What is it?""Be quiet!" Adhan barks."What are they threatening you with, Adahn? You're fighting to keep your own mind, here; what's the threat that has you so afraid of disobeying? It's your life, Adahn; throw it away if that's what you want, but nobody has the right to make you sacrifice yourself. What do they want, Adahn?""They don't want anything, the mask doesn't want anything. Shut up. You don't know anything!" Adhan says."I know that you don't have to listen to me." You say. "But you don't have to listen to them either. Take off the damn mask.""No, no, NO!" Adhan says. "I made a DEAL...I do this, and I make SURE that it works...and then I'll get Ava back for a little...and then after that Jubilee, and the three others, and all the other things that I screwed up will be fixed!" He says. "It'll be like my failures never happened, and people will be alive again."
>>24713537Is he in slapping range? Cause he needs a good slap.
>>24714575Un-Doomed Hometown.You know, as Carrots-onna-stikk go, that's pretty impressive. It's also a complete lie, but..."Adahn, you never screwed up anything. None of this is your fault. It's the fault of the ones that gave you that mask!"
>>24714575"If you do this, Adahn, you'll see your three friends again alright, but you won't see Ava for a long time. Life doesn't work like that. What happened to your friends and your home was a tragedy, but it can't just be undone, and throwing yourself after them won't change that.Your friends will always be alive in your memories. But they wouldn't want you following them anytime soon, and Ava wouldn't want you throwing your life away like this.You're being promised everything you could possibly want, the storybook happy ending. But if you do this, you're missing out on the real 'happily ever after' with Ava."
>>24714646>pretty impressiveI gotta say, I winced when I read that. THAT is some shit we can't offer.
>>24714575"Adhan, they can't even bring themselves back from the grave. They will not keep their end of the deal, you will dance on their strings, and when they're done, they will kill you. This is the only thing that can come from dealing with the dramatae."
>>24714575"Adahn. I understand. I sympathize more than you'd probably ever believe, knowing what you think of me. Everyone makes mistakes. You may hate me because you think everything goes great for me, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I fuck up a lot of things. All the time. I too, almost killed the woman whom I love dearly. I did it -twice-. Every time I err, I feel the weight of the consequences bearing down on me just like you do. The difference between us is that I was taught to let that weight temper me then cast it off, not to let it crush me for the rest of my life. Adahn, you have to realize the past is unalterable but also that the world wants to forgive you all your mistakes, if only you will forgive yourself."
>>24714575"Do you think any of them, any of your lost friends, or Ava, do you think they'd be happy if they knew what you were going to do? You've made a deal with the very people who forced you down this path in the first place, the very people who told you to stab Ava, the same people who will cast you aside to keep their sick little story going when you stop being useful to them.Ava is still alive, and you could see her, you could make things right, but this isn't the way."
>>24714705Neither can they truly. All their offers and grand standing for him? Total bullshit. To make him dance like the puppet he is.
>>24714757yeah, but we've MATCHED their offers up until now with the seductive power of good and righteousness.Now we can't match offers.
They lied. Like Peace has always lied to you. Remember how he said you were to be a Lightbringer out of legends once? Look at you now.You are the replacement to the Ghoul King that razed your town. And you will DIE to the next Lightbringer as it has been done for Seven Ages.
>>24714575Another approach: "That's some gall they've got, promising you a thing like that, when they're the ones that arranged Jubilee's downfall, and your friends' deaths. What better way to get you to do anything and everything they want, to put you on the warpath?">>24714749That's not a bad idea either.
>>24714757Actually, now I'm curious.Echo, can Citadel actually raise the dead? It's moot in this situation, because even if It could, It wouldn't, but I'd like to know.
>>24714785And we tell him their offer is bullshit. That there is no way in hell they'll live up to their side of the deal. They never have.
>>24714799I'd bet it can put you into a stupor so big that you'd think it can.
>>24714646(While this is true, I've got some other things to say re: undoing screw-ups.)>>24714575I'm sorry Adahn, but it doesn't work that way.Growing up, I heard rumors that there were other lamias living in the forest outside my village. When I heard that there was a bounty posted on the heads of every lamia in the kingdom, I went home as fast as I could to see if they really existed, and to make sure that they were alive. I was too late; someone had killed them before I arrived, and now nobody in the world will know their names. I searched and searched until my belly was worn smooth, and there was no life to be found in that tower.But you know what? We move on, and work to make sure that we do better in the future. In chasing you, we managed to rescue two other lamias and made sure that the mer (that YOU left undefended -- maybe we should save this for later) were safe. Nobody's perfect or all-powerful -- if we let ourselves be trapped by our mistakes and shortcomings, nothing good would ever get done.Ava understands this, and she hopes you will too. It's never too late.
>>24714757I don't know. Trivalon seemed pretty confident that they would bring him back after he got hung.
>>24714842Nice sentiment, but I don't think he'll have much sympathy for "monsters".
>>24714799>>24714838Well, Citadel's minions know necromancy. And animating a body and sticking the soul back in it is practically bringing back the dead. Right?
>>24714856>>24714860Reincarnation isn't exactly raising the dead, but it's a hope, albeit a sick one.
>>24714575YOU ARE THEIR TOOL. EVEN IF THEY MADE GOOD, WHICH THEY NEVER WILL, IT WOULD BE AT THE PRICE OF YOUR LIFE, THE LIVES OF EVERYONE IN THIS CITY, AND THE LIVES OF THE NEW LIGHTBRINGER SACRIFICES THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE.FULL. FUCKING. PALADIN GLARE.
>>24714859>inb4 he responds to our sob story with "Whatever."
>>24714891>imagining isen on the sidelines"Glare 'im! Glare 'im so good!"
>>24714891...that's so Isen.
>>24714856You mean the tools that they might need? Ones that they're very willing to just let die or kill themselves? Those same people? Because that's a different story. With Adahn, there isn't a chance in hell they'll let him have any kind of happy ending.
>>24714892I would literally vote to kill him. with a hug.
>>24714918Obviously they're lying to Adhan, but they might not be lying about their ability to bring the dead back.
>>24714891>still wearing the nameFuck me.
>>24714910Give him the glare! The glare!
>>24714842We should be careful about trying to get him to own up to his mistakes.He's obviously scared and in a position whereby he'll opt for the easiest path presented to him. He doesn't want to be at fault, and he wants to not feel the guilt for that.Which is an easier method of achieving this:1. none of it ever happened (citadel).2. it happened but it's not your fault anyway.3. it happened, its your fault, but that's okay.
>>24714891>the Paladin Serpent grows tired of your bullshit
>>24714971He needs to wake up and face reality.
>>247149712 with a side of everything you do from now on is your fault.
>>24714971What about:4. It happened, but it's all the fault of the ones trying to give you orders, and the only thing you did wrong was follow them, which is something you can fix right here and right now.
>>24715020You know, Ssen IS kind of a bitch sometimes. even if it is by necessity or accident.Fuck your lotus eating, we're all getting back on the boat.
>>24715052That sounds pretty good. It's not his fault, and the people whose fault it is are likely going to screw you over once they're done with you. But if you just stop doing all this crazy shit that they're forcing on you, it can all stop right here.
>>24715108>You know, Ssen IS kind of a bitch sometimes. even if it is by necessity or accident.Yeah, I guess she can be a bit cold-blooded.
>>24715148And when it comes to negotiations, she has a bit of a forked tongue.
>>24715172She also has a cloaca.
>>24715172I'm pretty sure with all that lizardspeak she's also a cunning linguist, but then again you'd have to ask Bug-Queen about that.Bow chicka bow wow.
>>24715203>>24715218One of these Isens is of a markedly better quality than the other
>>24715203>>24715218Damn it, Isen.
>>24715218>>24715203This...is my fault.
>>24715233I don't mind. There's at least enough Audacious here for two men and several women, amirite? You know I'm right.
>>24715316Don't kid yourself, Isen. If you had another Isen around you wouldn't bother with the women.
I like the general notion of all these responses. Good work.
"Adahn, you never screwed up anything. None of this is your fault. It's the fault of the ones that gave you that mask!""But they sa-""Adhan, they can't even bring themselves back from the grave. They will not keep their end of the deal, you will dance on their strings, and when they're done, they will kill you. This is the only thing that can come from dealing with the Dramatae."Adahn. I understand. I sympathize more than you'd probably ever believe, knowing what you think of me. Everyone makes mistakes. You may hate me because you think everything goes great for me, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I fuck up a lot of things. All the time. I too, almost killed the woman whom I love dearly. I did it -twice-. Every time I err, I feel the weight of the consequences bearing down on me just like you do. The difference between us is that I was taught to let that weight temper me then cast it off, not to let it crush me for the rest of my life. Adahn, you have to realize the past is unalterable but also that the world wants to forgive you all your mistakes, if only you will forgive yourself."Also, do you think any of them, any of your lost friends, or Ava, do you think they'd be happy if they knew what you were going to do? You've made a deal with the very people who forced you down this path in the first place, the very people who told you to stab Ava, the same people who will cast you aside to keep their sick little story going when you stop being useful to them."Honestly, that's some gall they've got, promising you a thing like that, when they're the ones that arranged Jubilee's downfall, and your friends' deaths. What better way to get you to do anything and everything they want, to put you on the warpath?"Adhan shakes his head. "I'm sick of this. I'm sick of talking, and listening to you go on and on and ON! Why won't you just FIGHT me?!" He snarls. "I have a sword pointed right AT you! Fight me, damn it! Or else!"
>>24715366I promised Ava I wouldn't.
>>24715366"Or else what? Am I harming you in some way by talking? You could have gone right past me- you still can. The only reason you aren't is because you recognize I'm talking sense."
>>24715417This is way more poignant than mine. It depends how confrontational we want to be about thissun.
>>24715422This.>>24715366"Or else what, Adahn? I'm not going to stand here and take a swing at you. If you want to fight me, fight me. But you're going to be the one to take the first swing.You don't want me to talk anymore, Adahn? Fine. Don't listen to me, don't listen to them either. Listen to yourself. Decide what *you* want.Make your decision, Adahn, and either swing that sword at me, or go right past me to the Leviathan, or come with me to Ava."Then shut up and wait.
>>24715417Good call. If he wants to take a swing, he has to do it knowing we promised Ava we'd try to save him.
>>24715417SO MUCH THIS. If he attacks us anyway go full defense to charge Beacon. She didn't ask us not to defend ourselves.
>>24715366"Would Ava want you to kill me? Would any of your friends want you to do this?What about your parents, your friends, your neighbors? Everyone from your village! What would they think of you if they saw you now?"
>>24715545We don't want him thinking too hard on them right now; that'll get him back to thinking about the promise Peace made.
>>24715366"Because you're not my enemy. My enemies are the ones who sent you here, the ones who authored all your sorrows, and countless more yet to come. And in this moment, this is how I choose to do it: by refusing to follow their damned plots, and by trying to convince you to do the same.""We can win, Adhan, but not by trying to kill each other here."
>>24715583Perhaps we could throw in a "I think they would rather stay dead, than be raised at the cost of an entire city of innocents"
>>24715346Isen the Audacious can't be HAD. He needs to be free to roam the wild, baby, not caged up.Because this has GOT to be shared and having two means more to go around.
>>24715366Here's a thought:"Because that's what it takes to stop this, Adahn. You're not going to win this by fighting. That's what Citadel wants, a storybook battle, a storybook sacrifice for it to feed on. You want to win? Just stop, and live, and let Citadel wither away so everyone else can live too."
>>24715417If we do this, we should give it some time to settle in before saying anything else.
>>24715417Just that. Simple and powerful. This is not the time for another massive tirade.
So. Are we ready to take 5 citadel enhanced blows to dispel his enchantments?Because that's plan martyr and it's the best we have.
>>24715736Still holding out hope that he'll see reason here.
>>24715736We could beg for an additional bonus for pacifism. Focusing on our shield use and whatnot
>Blackguard points fuckhuge sword at you>Lecture him about love and peace>AdviceLamia.jpg
>>24715417short, powerful, and the truth.
>>24715736... no? He's fighting it on his own, and making some headway. And if we don't get him to do it himself, he'll have lost again. And he'll go back to being a mopey little bitch. That isn't the point of the exercise.
>>24715785>point sword at lamia>quoth the lamia:"Go home and be a family man!"
>>24715785This needs to be a thing.
>>24715417"I promised Ava I wouldn't.""Fine..." He sighs. "Fine." He lowers the sword. "I can't control them so well. If they see me acting oddly, the Mer will take off."Dana shrugs. "They'll be happy to be marched back home. Nothing's better than a leader who can wage a successful campaign of total victory, including no losses whatsoever!""The Leviathan's a problem." Adhan says. "I don't know how I can fix that.""I own the thing." Isen says. "We head up, explain how this was a huge misunderstanding, and it's all good, bro. Ready drills are vital anyway.""And you'll keep your promise?" He asks.
>>24715889"I am a paladin, what would I be if I broke my word?"
>>24715889"I swear it.">>24715889>Dana shrugs. "They'll be happy to be marched back home. Nothing's better than a leader who can wage a successful campaign of total victory, including no losses whatsoever!"Dana is rapidly becoming the most chill character here.
>>24715889"Absolutely. I want to see both you and Ava happy, after all."
>>24715889"So long as you uphold your end, I'll uphold mine. That's what I promise."
>>24715889Yes, I'll escort you to her personally. our Nightmare is at Coral Gate so we can leave for Bronze Peak immediately after we get this army home. We'll be there within days.Keep an eye out for assassins. The Dramatae prefer to kill their tools if they fail.
>>24715977This sounds good.
oh also make sure he removes all that cursed armor.
>>24715889"I promise. Once we hash all this out, we'll get you on the way to bronze peak and Ava.Dana, can you help him figure out how to parse the orders to the mermen? The peace is still tenable, I'd hate for it to be broken by a misunderstood stand down order."
>>24715889"All of them I've made so far, yes, and if it comes to it I'll help you resist the Dramatae however I can. But just so you know, if you go back on this willingly, we'll have a problem.""Clear?"
>>24715945>Dana and Lea sit down to talk philosophy, politics and religion.>We find Lea 12 hours later, curled up, weeping softly in the corner. She has been exasperated -unto catatonia-.
>>24715889"I promise. But first, take off that damn armor, quickly. It pulses every time you're re-affirmed against citadel. And it clashes with your hair."
>>24716029Lea cracked under the strain of a Lamia arm-hug and some singing, and you think she could take 12 hours of Leviathan philosophy?>>24716045Good call.
>>24716029>Ssen: Tell Dana leviathan joke>Next thing you know, Dana's sides are in the Phoenix Empire
>>24716086...we have to try this.
>>24716067Lea: A perfect Paladin for 30 minutes.
>>24716045One of those points is SLIGHTLY more important than the other, but at least it can be fixed with a few minutes of attention from Ava.
>>24716104That's the secret to Ssen's success. Paladin ideals, Leviathan logic, a Dragon's drive to win, and persistent as *fuck*.>>24716108Isenpriorities.jpg
>>24716104to be fair, her arms just couldn't take the strain of lamiahugs. Few creatures can.
>>24716175Yeah, but it was the singing that sent her over the edge.
>>24715999"I promise, I'll even help you get to Bro-""Thank you." Adhan says. "Just make sure that I shut this fucking monster up." He says. "Also, I want Ava to wear something black and clingy, but no leather.""Ssen...he's not talking to us." Lea says."No more difficulties, no more confusion, no more candy, no more talk." Adhan says. His entire suit of armor starts to glow with magic, his face twitches and his voice changes back to the gravel. "I am the Herald of the Cold Shadow. The time of Light is over...all will fall." He raises his sword at you all. "And you will fall first Paladin Serpent. There's no place for you in my story."
>>24716175Liam likely had the benefit of what's known as "crazy old man strength."
>>24716194Its not a story. It never was.Quick Quick. Defend. No attacks.
>>24716194...Echo you right evil bastard.Screw it. Wrap him and rip off that bedamned mask.
>>24716194"... just remember, you chose your death willingly."
>>24716224Yeah. Grab Beacon, defend with Clang, and wave the others off so they don't start attacking.
>>24716194Just defend with Clang to charge Beacon. Maybe we can get a little of the quick-quick in there if we're just being flighty?
>>24716224Why? He's finally made his choice. We should honor it.
>>24716194WRAP N SLAP.WRAP N SLAP!!!
>>24716194Fascinating, no rolls. Well done, Echo.People, if we ever had a time for crazy plans, now is the time.
>>24716194God fucking dammit. Clang. Up.
>>24716194We pour our heart in trying to help him and all he can think about is a black dress for his girlfriend.Fuck his shit.
>>24716194Can we punch him in the face with clang
>>24716194Time to bust out Clang and focus on defense
>>24716310Well... we could use the blunt end to hit him in the face. over and over.
>>24716275We've forgiven people for far worse than listening to seductive lies. If we can listen to the kid from New Stone Hall for hours, and even try to talk down Odette, we can let Adahn take a few swings at our shield and dodge like the quickquick lamia we are. I want to see him frustrated that we're not fighting back.
>>24716325err with beacon I mean.
>>24716194"Fine. If you win, try not to sack stone hall too hard. There's a real good tailor there-he can help you with that ava thing."This is entirely dependant on how snarky we wish to be.
>>24716194If we can shatter the mask, we MAY be onto something. But only then.
>>24716337Hitting someone with the flat of a spear is really impractical thoughI doubt we've practiced it as well.its hard to fuck up punching someone in the face with a buckler-type shield
>>24716359Beacon seems like our best shot at that.
>>24716224full defensive, I agree. Light beam blast!
>>24716194let him swing first, then go for the mask.
>>24716363hence, why I suggested we slam clang into his face.
gotta remember its not just the mask. Its the sword, the armor... and his own choices.
That fuckin sword will cleave right through clang, deflect, rather than block.
>>24716367Yup. And start using the same mantra we used against the force oppressing Rachel.
>>24716391shit, meant to quote this>>24716359
>>24716336He's given in willingly to the Dramatae and is in all likelihood fueled by WAY more Citadel-mojo than any Passion to date. It's going to take lethal force to weaken him to the point that we can be picky about taking him alive or not.Our forgiveness is worthless if we somehow manage to lose.
>>24716401The oversized POS that is his sword could only hurt someone if they tripped over it.
time to start tapping into our Dragon Magic then.
hey im a noob am i doing this right?
>>24716426The other Passions never showed even the slightest sign of being willing to turn away from that power. He did.>>24716453Yeah, he's not going to be swinging that thing nearly quick enough for us to have too much trouble dodging.
>>24716453Citadel magic bro. All that needs to be said.
>>24716453He can swing the damn thing, it's plenty dangerous.
yay any way try a tail sweep and then hit him in the face with either clang or the but of beacon
Rolled 9, 10, 7, 1, 1, 10, 10, 6 = 54>>24716224"Its not a story. It never was." You say. "Remember Adhan...you chose this."Adhan gets three actions per round.He has ten wounds.You need 14+ to hit him.His spikes prevent constrictionHe can sacrifice one of his per rounds to forcibly convert 1d4 Mer to White Scale slaves.He can cast Citadel Spells, including healing.He has several immunities thanks to his armor.The Obsidian Mask gives him expert class skills, he hits on 14+On the plus side, seeing Adhan freak out and give in to Citadel Magic fully has caused the Mer army to desert. They may see things crazy, but they're not insane enough to follow THAT.Roll for initiative
>>24716473My POINT is that he's not a Passion. Treating him like some poor bumblefuck kid with no idea what he's doing is out of line with what he's probably capable of.Really, I suspect it will be more like fighting a Dramatae.
>>24716506JESUS FUCK!!!!!! Talk about OP as FUCK.
holy hell, this is a boss battle. We aren't going to be able to solo this.
>>24716473he is not a Passion though, I would bet he is far stronger, probably near an equal to one of the weaker dramatae.>>24716453its massively oversized, and he is swinging it around. if it hits us it is entirely capable of maiming/killing us just from the sheer weight of the thing, hell maces are probably far lighter and they break ribs and crush skulls just fine.
>>24716506I think we need to double strike this guy all the way. Double strike him till he is down.
quick question how do you add 1d 20 to your post(sorry im new at posting)
>>24716506Also>1d4 Mer>DanaWELP FUCK!
>>24716542He is being pumped full of magics, and is probably the Dramatae's last hope for carrying out a successful harvest in the conventional manner. Of course he's going to be a walking fortress of magic and JRPG boss stereotypes.
>>24716574read the sticky
Have Lea toss Dana her amulet.
>>24716574"dice+1d20" without the quotes
>>24716542now now, we're a literal combat monster.We just have to... deal with it.
>>24716506So I suppose Sundering is going to be the best bet. Under all the gaudy equipment he's a bumblefuck peasant kid whose biggest threat to us is his CONSTANT WHINGNG.
>>24716597I thought Ana kept it.
>>24716194Make sure he can't get back to the Mer or signal them. Send Dana to go and trick the rest of the Mer in the army into going back (they are crazy enough as is) have her say something like "We are victorious! Our lord commands us to head back to Coral Gate for the celebratory feast!" or something like that.As for Adahn, somehow cut him off from escaping the boat and just pummel him into submission with non-lethals (I am thinking sleep poison from bugs, some black, sleep spells from mage, pressure point strikes from Lea, chokeholds from Tara, poison darts from Mari, etc.
>>24716569or use some of our specials, ie Pierce Armor, Mari's Analyze, our Double Sweep(make him lose an action) etc.
>>24716506If the Mer deserted, how can he still convert them?Our claws and paralytics probably won't work; that's probably one of the immunities.Fine then, defend, and use armor-piercing Beacon stabs to try to damage his armor, and try to charge Beacon.
>>24716597I thought Ava had it?
>>24716618They are running off to Coral Gate, hence desertion
Due to popular request I DELIVER
>>24716597Also, we can try taunting him. He's a dumb kid, if we taunt the shit out of him he'll fight stupid.
thanks and the first thing we should do is charge up beacon and use the aoe so everyone is buffed just straight blasting him may not work do to citidel BS
>>24716618several immunities, I really doubt we can even attempt to save him unless he is near death.
>>24716620Yeah, I think the defense plan just went out the window. Best defense is a good offense, and a few hits won't kill him. Mari needs to analyze, Lea needs some armor-piercing blows, and Ssen needs to try to pierce armor with Beacon and defend with Clang.
>>24716648and the blank for everyone else
>>24716648we wanted the opposite of you doing thatwe wanted you not to do that ever
>>24716664Target the mask. Get the mask off of him, and he'll lose SOME power. His armour will probably take away the rest.
first turn battle strategies: Pierce for the first couple turnsQuick Quick always. Meri Analyze.Mage ice his armor, slow him down.Tricia... weaken the deck under his feet, cause one leg to collapse downwards.Lea also try to damage that armor.Dana attack.Tara attackIsen taunt.
I would say first attack Pierce Armor, and have Mari analyze him until we get a bonus.that would probably greatly improve our hit percentage on him.
Hey guys. Call me crazy...but what if we took this fight to the water? He's heavy as shit, and we fight much better in it.Our party not so much, but it's a thought.
>>24716722he can float
>>24716708We can't quick-quick with Beacon and Clang both, and we desperately need to charge Beacon.
>>24716708Roll it. Debuffs debuffs debuffs, the anti-boss way!
Was it ever possible to fucking save him? I think we did pretty good.
i like the toss him in water idea
>>24716722he was walking on top the water, so that is right out.>>24716708agree with this, after the Pierces then we can Double Sweep(to try and take away some of his attacks)
>>24716738I think we did all we could, now we need to knock some sense into him. We're not going to get out of this without a fight, but we might manage to stop him without killing him.
>>24716669I'll indulge once.
>>24716738I don't think we have lost him yet. It is just a matter of getting him out of that armor.
>>24716764Alright, that was kind of funny. Now, let us forget this thing ever existed.
>>24716766We may have overestimated him. He doesn't want to do the right thing, he just wants to be a star. Villain, hero, it makes no difference.
>>24716781Agreed.So, defend and quick-quick with beacon on his turns, double sweep with ours?
Tricia needs to make a wasp swarm, bet that armor isn't tight enough to prevent them from getting inside.
Toss him in the water and have mage use a lightning bolt on him as he connects with the water.testing how to roll
>>24716814Defend and Clang on his turns, Beacon armor pierce on ours.
i believ he is what people call a drama queen
>>24716738No. He clearly suffers from a terminal case of teenaged self-entitled fuckwadery.
>>24716830Lowercase 'd', and the word "dice" in front.
>>24716830gotta have no capitals and dice in front
>>24716830he may be imune
>>24716831... might work as sundering. Gradually strip away his combat abilities, starting with the mask.
>>24716506OK, stupid question. Obsidian is a stone, right?Hey Mage...
>>24716827That's dirty. Even if he's immune to the venom, a couple could always kamikaze his eyes.
Rolled 14>>24716858To being tossed in salt water and fried with natures lasers?That's some primo armour, we should see if we can capture it and dissect it to further our understanding of the Dramataes power. >>24716874Obsidion is like glass, not stone.
>>24716874its volcanic rock so mabey
Rolled 17, 2 = 19>>24716708"Mage slow him down!" You shout.Mage tries to do a spell that'll freeze the water in the joint of his armor, the kid has been riding above the ocean after all.Tara swings her iron club at him.Isen draws his blade. "I am Isen Newgate! The blood of kings flows within me, so my will shall be done! I decree that today YOU, you who spat upon the charity of the Paladin Serpent, SHALL FALL! SO I HAVE DECRIED IT! SO SHALL IT BE!" (Isen now gets +1)
>>24716874... THIS. OH GOD I SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING AND I FUCKING LOVE IT.FREE MUD FACIALS!
>>24716890>Obsidion is like glass, not stone.Glass texture, but...>>24716897This.
>>24716901Mari:> Analyze (Grants +1 to all if hits target number)
>>24716901Tara misses, but you see some clear ice crystals form on his armor. (Adhan loses 1 action)Your turn.
>>24716874Obsidian IS a stone, but the mask likely isn't....oh. OH. OHHHHHHH!!!THE LANTERN METAL! GET THAT MASK!
>>24716924pierce armor attack.
>>24716924Dual strike? Duel strike.
>>24716901Can Isen buff the rest of the party as well, or is his power exclusive to himself?
>>24716942As if Isen's ego has ever convinced anyone but himself.
>>24716924Possible pierce on the mask? It'll reduce his ability to hit us in return, and make his eyes vulnerable to OH GOD BEES
>>24716942Also, the clear venom wears away at armor right? can we try splatter him with some via swinging hands in his direction while secreteing?
>>24716996Doesn't work on armor.
>>24716991Dose tricia have bees in on her that my help
>>24716996Not on metal, even if it wasn't magic armor.
>>24717025Would prefer yellow jackets.
>>24717025Probably? And her entire body IS insects now?
To answer the fleeing Mer thing. It'll take time for the entire army to get out of Adhan's range of power. You can have Dana focus on evacuating them to get them clear faster. Right now it'll take three full rounds for them to get clear. Dana will chop it down to two. >>24716942Sadly no, this is actually Isen's ego overriding Citadel magic. Basically he's forcing Citadel into a contradiction. Adhan can't lose...but neither can Newgates. Normally the power of Adhan would override it...but Isen is Isen.>>24716931>>24716936>>24716937Roll 1d20 +2 to Pierce. Hit 14+, success will lower Adhan's target number. +1 Beacon +damage
>>24716542This isn't even his final form!
>>24717054that a hunger game refrence or am i mixed up
Rolled 1 + 2>>24717078
Rolled 14 + 2>>24717078
>>24717092That was quick.
>>24717092...welp.>>24717078Yes, have Dana help.
we just took some damage.
>>24717092oh goodness me.
>>24717125Well, that'll charge Beacon at least...
>>24717092What's sad is the roll after ti.
>>24717135that did not work
>>24717092Oh for fucks sake
>>24717141we might have just lost beacon, temporarily I hope.
>>24717078BY THE POWER OF MATH!
>>24716648I would like to make a formal apology for posting >>24715785
>>24717078Have Dana evacuate the Mers.
Do we not have any rerolls?
>>24717092You. Never roll again.Not. Ever.
>>24717176not a one. no art friends have been by in ages.
>>24717164BY THE POWER OF caps lock.
>>24717176We burned them all, two of them on stupid shit iirc.Shouldn't we have been getting extras for every boss fight we completed without using them?
Rolled 1 + 2>>24717164>>24717192by the power of poor typing...
archivist usually rolls well actually.
>>24717210You can't roll either.
>>24717213Not the past few threads man. But none of us have really.
>>24717233Well at least it didn't matter. I'll get it right.
>>24717213dident he get 2 20 in a row
>>24717210By the power of FUCKING STOP IT ALREADYSTOP WITH THE ROLLING
>>24717203That's not how they work. Great art, or particularly great storytelling.
>>24717203we saved Sandover, which greatly damaged the Dramatae with the last 2 rerolls, so no, not stupid shit.>>24717213/tg/ dice are fickle, thread 8(i think it was 8) I rolled 4x 20s consecutively, next thread my rolls mostly sucked.
>>24717255I know, but the fact remains that we haven't gotten any recently, and never as a reward for "playing smart".
Rolled 17, 20 = 37>>24717092You swing Beacon at Adhan. He blocks the blade with one hand. And you can almost 'hear' the smirk on his face as he rips your weapons out of your hand and tosses it over his shoulder and it chops into one of the masts of the Audacious. It's stuck in there pretty deep.Tricia swears and runs to pull the weapon free.Mari takes a deep breath and analyzes Adhan, his movements, the runes, the magic, his armor, etc. It'll take a bit. (Goal: 25)
>>24717260>we saved Sandover, which greatly damaged the Dramatae with the last 2 rerolls, so no, not stupid shit.Those were well spent. So was the one used to get away from the Dramatae at the Bear Shrine. The others, on the other hand...
>>24717277>Mari takes a deep breath and analyzes Adhan, his movements, the runes, the magic, his armor, etc. It'll take a bit. (Goal: 25)...or a crit, I hope.
>>24717277... go tricia and Mari!
>>24717277claws and quick quick now
Rolled 14>>24717277we're rolling for that goal?
>>24717304nope Echo rolls for everyone but Ssen.
>>24717277>goal 25>rolled a 20>Tricia rolls a 17 to get our weapon backAt least there's that.
>>24717277Continue tanking, Ssen! Tricia is recovering your blade!
>>24717277claws while we are disarmed.>>24717260wait, correction, we got the Clear with our last reroll, and by extension the poison gas by mixing the three venoms.>>24717278we never really wasted them.>>24717304no, we only roll when tells us to roll Xd20+y
>>24717304no, it's an addition test. multiple rolls over the course of a turn, adding up to the goal. the only difference is time.A lamia with no sword is not without their weapon. Switch to claws and use paralytic! Keep those debuffs up!
>>24717340Mid-battle, it takes a turn to coat our claws with venom.
>>24717351I say we shield bash his helmet, get him dazed in addition to frozen.
>>24717340Agreed. Start stacking paralytic. Go for the joints and the back of the head if we can get it. Also,>>24717349>"whatever".I kind of like this for some reason.
I could get behind a shield bash, will have to wait until its our turn again.
Rolled 4 + 1>>24717277Tricia grunts and strains, she manages to pull Beacon free. (Beacon will still charge if Ssen is hit)Mari doesn't need to make any more progress. She knows this stuff backwards and forwards and now all she needs to do is be vocal about it. (As long as Mari is out, and capable of shouting tactics, +1 to hit Adhan.)Adhan holds a hand out at the Mer who are advancing back home. "You are MY army!" He shouts.He also takes a swing at you.
>>24717349>>24717384Not a good thing to act like that to our spear that is powered by Light.
>>24717402Can't do two different dice man. Been over this.
(Did that work as a 1d4 + 1d20 or did it just go to a 1d4+1?)
>>24717402unfortunately /tg/ dice don't handle different types.
>>24717402tail jab him in the knee or face
>>24717402>5Nope. Gotta be faster than that to beat the quick-quick.
>>24717420The latter, sadly.
Rolled 1>>24717420Right sorry. I will reroll then. First the summon
>>24717277WHO NEEDS BEACON.Bring up clang, get a bit of a run up, and charge/shield smite like a lamia missile. If the attack succeeds it should concuss him a bit; if 500lbs of lamia knocks him over, then have all our melee fighters pile on in an attempt to rip off his mask and armour pieces.Also, begin to pray. Do not pray for assistance, pray to thank his light for the opportunity you have to do his work. Just continue to shout your thanks for being a paladin, and for having the strength to help others, and the fortitude needed to carry out HIS work. -- You are not praying to get anything out of it, you are praying as a form of battle trance, it might inspire the rest of the party too (if not at least Lea).
Rolled 1>>24717437well, there's that then.
Rolled 2trying something, probably won't work
>>24717437it seems tg dive hate him too.
>>24717410Taunts are an accepted part of fighting. Taunt an overly aggressive opponent into behaving stupidly and you've already won, you just need to find an opportunity to deliver the blow.
Rolled 8>>24717437A mer that looks the same type of subspecies as Dana jumps out of the water and onto the ship. His ear fins, hands, and parts of exposed skin are no longer that slight bluish/mother of pearl that Dana has, but a shock white. His eyes are blood red. He has a spear made of coral.Adhan swings at you.
He only has spikes on his shoulders. Wrap one of his legs and pull him off his feet.
>>24717447please use dice discipline, extranneous rolls REALLY CONFUSE COMBAT.
>>24717484Sword arm so he cant swing that damn meat cleaver.
>>24717476What, huh? A botched roll still gets him a mer henchman."Dana, get them out of there!"
>>24717442if we manage to fully charge beacon lets use the aoe buff (anyone else anoyed by the verification thing)
>>24717484He's wearing JRPG villian armor. Made of spikes
>>24717500It was a 1d4 for number of henchmer.
>>24717500It's a d4 dude.
>>24717476But he crit failed didn't he?Is the mer gone totally berserk, and will attack anyone, him included? Because that would make things even more complicated.>>24717488My apologies. Hopefully won't happen again.
>>24717500It's 1d4 which is most likely the number of mer he's getting a turn.
>>24717500Summoning a mer is a guaranteed thing. 1d4 of them.
Tricia and Dana can handle the Mer once we get our Beacon back. Their naked. Lots of flesh for insects to bite.
>>24717534>>24717525>>24717518>>24717515I see, i didn't look at the email field.My tactical opinion is unchanged, however. Let's not give the boss access to more potential Agents.
>>24717511>His armor is now slightly more practical. Solid, well covered, and all of it pitch black with runic script around the edges. Still, those large spikes that he has coming out of those oversized pauldrons are just asking for trouble. His legs are clear. We can't do a full body constrict but we should be able to sweep the leg.
Rolled 7, 4, 6, 4 = 21>>24717476And Adhan's blade may be fast and enchanted, but it's still a big flat piece of metal, and something that you can dodge.Lea goes to try and knock out the Mer.Dana dives into the water to help her people get away faster."Stone to mud?" You shout at Mage."No good on obsidian! Enchanted too! I'm going to try to keep him frozen!" Mage says as he keeps focusing on icing Adhan.Tara goes for the mer. Isen charges at Adhan...and you think he might be singing his own theme song under his breath as he does.+1 To Mage for Mari+2 to Isen for himself and Mari
>>24717560No biting. Remember, the bugs are a part of Dragonfly now, and we don't want anything corrupted getting mixed in.We still don't know how that shit works.
>>24717587Aieee, I hadn't even thought of that.
>>24717587instects bite to deliver toxins, not just to eat.>>24717586/tg/ dice
for all the swinging he has done do we have any beacon points?
>>24717611Nope. We critfailed, and he missed.
>>24717611nope, has to hit us.
>>24717611He's swigged once. And didn't hit.
>>24717586Misses all around and Adhan manages to break the ice free from him.Your turn. (You will auto catch Beacon when Tricia throws it to you, she's next so you can delay.)
>>24717621Or hit Clang, which is the best-case Ssenario.
>>24717609You still comfortable risking it when, as I have previously stated, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE BUG-SKIN WORKS?Err on the side of caution and you'll avoid unpleasant surprises.
the tg dice are in a bad mood today
>>24717628Delay, then pierce once we've got Beacon again.
>>24717628Shield bash face.
>>24717628wait for beacon and Pierce again.
>>24717628Catch Beacon, and pierce Adahn's mask in one fluid motion.
>>24717628If we delay we go right after Tricia right? If so do so and pierce
>>24717628Delay, then pierce to the face?
>>24717628tail sweep try to trip him
>>24717651this. its our best anti armor attack, and he's wearing heavily enchanted full plate.
>>24717628Posting suggestion againWHO NEEDS BEACON.Bring up clang, get a bit of a run up, and charge/shield smite like a lamia missile. If the attack succeeds it should concuss him a bit; if 500lbs of lamia knocks him over, then have all our melee fighters pile on in an attempt to rip off his mask and armour pieces.Also, begin to pray. Do not pray for assistance, pray to thank his light for the opportunity you have to do his work. Just continue to shout your thanks for being a paladin, and for having the strength to help others, and the fortitude needed to carry out HIS work. -- You are not praying to get anything out of it, you are praying as a form of battle trance, it might inspire the rest of the party too (if not at least Lea).
>>24717660Also, warn tricia not to bite anything corrupted while delaying.
>>24717651>>24717645>>24717641Tricia tosses you Beacon and you let it fly trying to pierce Adhan's armor again.+1 Mari+2 Beacon + Training1d20 +3
Rolled 2I don't think echo would give us a new ability and limit it in such a way.
Rolled 11 + 3>>24717682
Rolled 1 + 3>>24717682>>24717673We're trying to charge Beacon in the hopes of a battle-ending Light that eliminates his armor and mask.
>>24717685Hah! You didn't link to the post!SUCKER!
>>24717673No. We are not saying who needs beacon, damn things practically sentient.>>24717691looks like a hit boyo.
Rolled 9 + 3>>24717682
>>24717675remember the goal is not to kill him
>>24717691Thank you for your timely intervention. 14, that's *just* enough.
good thing echo only counts linked rolls, I was replying to someone else
>>2471769114. Just barely a hit.
>>24717694And it's a good plan, so long as you and redaeth stop rolling.Archivest gets a pass this time.
>>24717731>implying the dice are anything other than random
>>24717744>Implying /tg/ dice are random
>>24717731seriously stop already. /tg/ dice are /tg/ dice, had anyone else rolled at the exact instant they would have gotten the same roll, as its based on the 4chan clock.
>>24717744>implying they aren't a sentient hate engine
>>24717744But they're not random, anon. I thought everyone on /tg/ knew this already?
>>24717768They aren't random but they don't care who rolls either.
>>24717768Many people on /tg/ claim they're not random, with absolutely no proof.
>>24717768they seemed to love it when you had ssen be sneaky at the bear shrine
Rolled 3>>24717691You almost missed, but you saw Mari desperately pointing the other way and you twisted your lunge. No human could have done that, another win for the flexible spine!Beacon slams home and you hear a hard CRACK. Bits of obsidian flake off and you see cracks of not-violet magic light appear in Adhan's armor. Also the kid grunts in pain.Mari keeps shouting advice but also takes the time to shoot at Adahn.
>>24717813Now Lea needs to do the same. Armor Crack.
>>24717768What you all need to do is do this practically. Like a numbermancer.Pick yourself up an actual d20, like I've got here. Then roll it. keep rolling it until it rolls 1. Then roll on /tg/.As you know, the chance of rolling 1 twice in a row is 1/400. That's a lot less likely than any other roll, like, say, a nat 20 (1/20). It's not effective at getting high rolls, but it will sure as hell prevent low ones. By the power of MATH!
>>24717835You're an idiot.
>>24717835For someone named Spreadsheet Warrior, you're missing the obvious option.Analyze the dice rolls we've had so far and prove that they're statistically distinguishable from a random d20.
>>24717823Now this is sound strategy. Make a weak spot, hit said weak spot until his armor peels off like a bad sunburn.
Rolled 3>>24717813Mari's shot goes wide.Adahn swears at you. He puts one hand on his armor and you see the cracks you made...heal. As well as new blobs of black obsidian rise up from his armor to cover the places where you chipped it off. (Adahn's armor is back to full)"Oh, you cheap, cheating, BASTARD!" Isen shouts.He also points his hand out to sea. "No, no no! COME BACK YOU COWARDS!"
>>24717849no need to be rude
>looks at the rollsThis is going to be one of those fights, isn't it...
>>24717835For someone named Spreadsheet Warrior you're pretty awful at math.
>>24717866No, I've been doing that too. So far I've got nothing. ROLL MORE, I need more data.>>24717849And you are rude.
>>24717893check the archives, make sure to use only the rolls we make that echo counts.
>>24717877did we down that last one or are we now fighting 4 corrupted mer
>>24717877Well fuck even more fucking distractions
>>24717920no one else has acted. Hopefully Tara will club them.
>>24717923don't worry, these are his last ones.
>>24717877Mage needs to lightning strike the water as soon as they get near.
>>24717877"Cowards? That's a laugh, coming from you."
>>24717877Well then, if he can just heal his armor, no sense trying to pierce it again. Full standard Beacon attack, let's charge this sucker up.
>>24717877Okay, so he can mend his armor, but it takes an action to do so.Can he mend poison?
>>24717951If it even affects him at all.>>24716506>He has several immunities thanks to his armor.
Rolled 5>>24717877Three more Mer come out of the water and onto the boat. They have small differences, one has crab pinchers, one looks more like a fish than a human(think Deep One), and the last one is a female like Dana. They're all covered in spreading white scales and blood red eyes.Adahn also takes a swing at Isen.
>>24717950Agreed. Fight magical shenanigans with magical shenanigans. I think either a focused blast to wreck the armor once and for all OR boosting our allies to simply overwhelm him with wounds would work, but I'd prefer the focused blast.
doesn't pierce give us +2 to beacon anyway?
>>24717969i can see a wifing fest in the coming battle
>>24718010Nope, just +1.
>>24717968So, debuffs are a no-go. In that case let's roll with the charge attack. Smack him until Beacon is glowing brighter than the Trinity test, then Enlighten this poor fool.
>>24718014half our battles do that.
Rolled 8, 15, 3, 6, 17 = 49>>24717969He misses.Lea continues to fight the Mer she's been handling.Dana finishes the evacuation. The Mer are now outside of Adahn's reach. She starts to make her way back to the ship.Mage tries to zap Lea's Mer.Tara starts fighting the Mer.Isen keeps on Adahn.The Mer tries to counter Lea.The other three mer are having 'summoning sickness' for lack of better terms.+2 to Isen for Isen+Mari
>>24718028Well when boss sides have only a 30% chance to hit before buffs and such... yeah.
>>24718021>>24718010if pierce charges beacon, there's no reason not to keep using it to cost him an action every turn re-buffing.
>>24718057If we hit.
>>24718053Both not boss ugh.
woot mage is on a roll.
>>24718049Mage's lighting blast nails the Mer. Lighting is VERY effective on creatures who are covered in water, so despite having a perfect clear shot at Lea when she misses the mer is too 'shocked' to take advantage of it.Everyone else misses. Your turn.
>>24718057he has 3 actions
>>24718057That's a good idea. It'll cost him an action, and charge beacon. BUT! We take a 10% loss on to-hit chance for the attack.
>>24718101Either Double strike or just plain old hit him with beacon for more charges.
>>24718101pierceing strike aimed at groin
>>24718101We need to tell Dana to get to safety.Double strike Adhan
>>24718101If we're lucky his stupid spikes will get stuck in the deck.
>>24718101Regular Beacon strike; try to get this thing charged.
Rolled 7>>24718101sweep the legs and stab with beacon
>>24718127That won't charge Beacon, and I think that's the only thing that'll end this battle peacefully.
>>24717694Blocking with clang gives us a charge on beacon.Smiting with clang most certainly will as well.
>>24718167We'd need a call from Echo on that one, but so far we've never attempted to shield-bash with Clang.
>>24718167Only if we're holding beacon, and if we're holding beacon, we might as well attack with beacon.
>>24718158its also probably going to be the best thing we can do against adrhan. it probably won't drop him (bonus boss bullshit) but its going to mess him up.
>>24718146>>24718131>>24718117So, I read that as three votes for a Tail/Beacon double strike. +1 Mari +2 Beacon+training2d20 +3
>>24718191It won't, guy won't get stuck in the floorboards. if we get enough charges on beacon, either every ally makes their action or adhan becomes a blibbering mess.
Rolled 2, 1 = 3>>24718218
>>24718191this is just random but would banging clang and beacon togeather give us light points?
Rolled 20, 3 = 23>>24718218
Rolled 9, 6 = 15>>24718218
>>24718226can we go with this one
>>24718224And I'm done for the night.
Rolled 20, 11 = 31>>24718224son of a bitch.
>>24718246nope, we've complained at Echo about the dice system for most of the game... and he hasn't budged.
>>24718258He wont even give comment about it either.
>>24718272Which, honestly, pisses me off more.
>>24718258While I do think we could use some better ability to search and such, I see nothing wrong with the battle system. Live with the fail; we'll live to try again.
>>24718246Dont even. We've literally derailed at least one entire thread trying to fight lvl 1 mooks because of the dice. Just get used to it.
its not like they are rolling any better than we are. there has been a total of 3 hits rolled this entire fight, and one of those did't connect due to mage stunning him.
>>24718276What pisses me off more are the awesome rolls behind these ones.
>>24718302Its like everyone on the planet went to the Imperial Sharpshooters Academy or something. Either that or wherever the fuck the Redshirts go to to learn to fight.
>>24718351Citadel likes Flynning.
>>24718351citadel has allowed armor technology to progress unhindered, while restricting gun and crossbow technology.
>>24718340Its because fucking assholes refuse to turn their fucking dice off. Seriously if you do this please do the world a favor and kill yourself.
>>24718224that's just unbelievable.
>>24718372You do know that it doesn't effect anything right? Rolling in the middle of the thread. Right?
>>24718340Alright, fine. I agree the dice can be rather bitchy. Are their other options that we can come up with /quickly/ so we don't spend all night on this?
>>24718372Keep in mind that a dozen people are all working on rolling the moment Echo posts a "roll Md20+N", so most of the time that's just the rolls that were a moment too slow.Get over yourself.
>>24718388Take best of 2 or 3.
>>24718386/tg/dice.jpegIm serious you would be AMAZED at some of the shit rolls we get in almost every quest.
>>24718388Best of two or three rolls truthfully is just as fast considering how fast people roll man. You won't see a slow down.
>>24718388first roll be a faint then second be the follow up strike mabey
>>24718398Except enemies only get one roll. This means the averaging effect only works for us.
>>24718410maybe i cant spell today
combat dice are fine, possibly double the modifier bonus if we missed with the same attack the previous turn.
>>24718388How about this: take the first roll, except that if we roll a crit within the first 3 or so, take that instead.
>>24718394Oh im not talking about that im talking about the dicks that respond to their low dice roll with nat 20s. Ive seen PLENTY of that in this quest.
>>24718372>people still think this
>>24718398Eh. I hate to go to that, but it's a lot better than getting ourselves disarmed for the second time in one fight.
>>24718424That's kind of the point, dude. Adhan is OP as hell. Or >>24718436.
>>24718428That sounds good; don't mess with the roll mechanics, just tweak the bonuses.
I prefer a best of 3 system. It works for most quests and honestly /tg/ dice generally do screw you over anyway.
>>24718444I dunno, I think we can take him as is.
>>24718388If the last time we had to play the Benny Hill theme song with our combat is ANY indication this wont end before 3 AM.
>>24718428Very well, I'll do a bonus tweak. +5 for a roll after a crit miss. And as a show of good faith, a reroll1d20 +3
>>24718472>mfw Shadow Master does this>mfw Shadow Quest uses 1d100s>mfw when we still get three nat1s in a single battle
>>24718388The system we have has worked fine for 44 threads. Don't change it now just because we rolled badly a few times. We've rolled well just as often. And this is *supposed* to be a hard fight. Plus, Adahn isn't hitting *us* yet either.
Rolled 1 + 3>>24718495
>>24718436Crit in the first three gives a bonus, possibly?I don't really want to complain about the dice, persay, but if even Echo is annoyed about it, we need to do something. Or we could just ignore it and try again (or go full defensive and Enlighten Adahn).
Rolled 16 + 3>>24718495>>24718505AUUUUUUUUUUUUGH
>>24718505the sad thing is that i fully expected this.
Rolled 1 + 3>>24718495Dear Light, don't let me fuck up...
>>24718505Sometimes, I think the dice are trying to tell us we need to change tactics. xD
>>24718505We're never finishing this combat.
>>24718505Fucking LULZ. All i have to say.
>>24718505>>24718495see? we're doomed. Just deal with it.
>>24718516im bad at this
>>24718495>>24718505oh god the irony... /tg/ dice do no approve of changing the combat system after 43 other threads.
>>24718495But wait, we did a double action.
>>24718514YOU!! GO AND DIE!!!!!! YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!
>>24718495Can we fail so hard we fuck up Adahn as well?
>>24718505>>24718523You were that eager to test out the new bonus, Archivist?
>>24718424I think our skill and experience as a fighter gives us the benefit of the doubt. Also, take the critfail only if there's no subsequent critsuccess within the posting limit. I think that's fair.
>>24718543The dice haven't approved of anything for the last 4-5 threads man. And it has gotten old. I can take failing but this?
(this is why best of 3 is the best)
Rolled 11 + 3>>24718553FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! YOU THINK I FUCKING *ENJOY* ROLLING A 16 AFTER ARCHIVIST'S FAIL?
>>24718562This is not gone well...
Rolled 3, 19 = 22>>24718514Okay so THAT was the first one I saw and I DIDN'T see any other dice rolls before it. RIGHT? GOOD.Your tail swings through the air and Adahn ducks it, which is just how you planned to have him run right into Beacon's point. You spike him pretty good and you hear the jerk grunt in pain.Tricia goes to fight the Mer.Mari takes a shot at Adahn.
>>24718505Guise, hold in that rage.
>>24718398Unless there is a 1. And crits and 1s should cancel each-other out, leaving the third roll. We want it to be reasonable, not easy-mode.So as an example, 3 rolls of 1, 8, and 17 would end in a critical miss. But 3 rolls of 1, 15, and 20 would end in a 15. And 3 rolls of 2, 8, and 20 would end in a critical hit.
>>24718583>Okay so THAT was the first one I saw and I DIDN'T see any other dice rolls before it. RIGHT? GOOD.What other roll?Thank you.
>>24718583hah you used a best of 3 anyway.
>>24718583All hail the merciful DM, and let us not taunt happy fun dice again.
>>24718579THE TURN OFF YOUR GODDAMN DICE YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT! DONT FUCKING ROLL AT ALL!!! HOW GODDAMN HARD IS IT TO HIGHLIGHT AND HIT FUCKING BACKSPACE YOU FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>24718583I'm just gonna roll with that logic.If the /tg/ dice go too far, we just *ZZRP* what /tg/ dice?
>>24718606You need to fucking chill.
Rolled 5 + 3>>24718606SO YOU WANTED US TO FAIL, YOU ASSMANGLED LITTLE FUCK?
>>24718606dude. seriously. We don't need that shit.
>>24718620you chill too.
>>24718622>>24718619Alright, fine. >>24718620 here.
Rolled 20, 10 = 30>>24718583Bingo! Mari's shot gets Adahn right through his armor.Adhan pulls out the bolt and once more touches his chest. You can see the bleeding from the wounds you and Mari gave him stop. Bastard's healed himself.He does a swing at you and then a swing at Isen.
I think we need to pump some blue smoke into the thread...
>>24718606can everyone just calm down
>>24718643... quick quick time?
two more rolls like that and we are dead.
>>24718643hoo boy, he hit us!We get a free* beacon charge!*Free in the monetary sense, it will cost us some blood
>>2471864320 on us ouch
>>24718643Alright, this roll we cannot contest no matter what.
Rolled 15>>24718643Well, that's one way to get a Beacon charge.Rolling for Lamia Dodge.
>>24718677good, no longer a crit.
>>24718620Yeah so just because the GM WANTS combat to end and has NEVER EVER done that before in a quest mean that i want us to fail. YOU ARE A GODDAMN BASTARD! TURN OFF YOUR FUCKING DICE WHEN YOU GODDAMNB RESPOND TO A BAD ROLL YOU FUCKTARD!!!!!
>>24718643Roll 1d20 for a quick dodge attempt
Rolled 16>>24718643Quick-quick dodge! Force a normal hit!
>>24718681Sadly not.> If an opponent rolls a natural 20, on a dodge of 17+ it goes down to just a regular hit, on 20 they miss.
>>24718606>THE TURN OFF YOUR GODDAMN DICE YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT! DONT FUCKING ROLL AT ALL!!! HOW GODDAMN HARD IS IT TO HIGHLIGHT AND HIT FUCKING BACKSPACE YOU FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!>>24718620chill man. its frustrating heck but all getting angry is counterproductive.
>>24718682This. Is. Over. Calm. Down.
Rolled 20>>24718677You know he has to call for that right?>>24718691
>>24718682For real, chill the hell out. That's never been acceptable.
>>24718682I said, fucking chill.>>24718584watch the bird.
please stop attacking the other players, it ruins quests.
>>24718691>>24718701>1st actual reply>a 20what happens when we get a critical dodge against a critical hit?
>>24718505... I don't even have a feel for this.
>>24718701yay first one linked
>>24718701You're right. Gloriously, gloriously right.
>>24718702Pardon for getting pissed that this happens almost every goddamn thread, in EVERY single encounter, and in every challenge we have to overcome.
>>24718701Thank you based anon
My god people what part of first linked rolled do you not get. Also. Your Welcome.I blame all the new people there. I feel better.
>>24718718It turns into a miss.
>>24718732YES FUCKING YES I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS.
>>24718745No pardons given. I've dealt with it 43 threads, there's no excuse to scream about it.>>24718749I also blame the new people. They're being quite impolite at times.
>>24718750... good, cause honestly? This is getting a little out of hand.
Rolled 8, 15, 8, 9, 20, 1, 20, 3 = 84>>24718701HA! Adahn just gapes. No...That...How? You were RIGHT THERE! He had a hit on you a PERFECT hit and now...you just weren't there.You pant, so much of you is going to be very sore after this, and you think you owe a prayer or six to His Light for THAT one, but Holy Shit, you can NOT believe you DODGED that! Also, Beacon is glowing brighter as well!Lea continues to fight her mer.Dana climbs back onto the Audacious and draws her stick.The mer fight Lea, Tricia, Tara, and Dana.Mage continues to try and zap the Mer.Tara keeps fighting the Mer.Isen keeps fighting Adahn.
>>24718795Go Tara!And boo on the Mer hitting Dana!
>>24718780I could say "But he started it!" but that would be immature.So let's cross our fingers and hope for the best.>>24718795HOLY SHIT DOUBLE 20S!
>>24718772Just so you know, I find it funny when people refer to each other as "new". There was a point there in the first quest where it was just me and Echo for a while. Not like I'm trying to brag or anything, it's just kind of off-putting to hear people complaining about new players from where I sit, and I'd prefer that you not do it.
>>24718772Combat was a clean affair until this thread and the one before it. Then it turned into this. We used to vote, roll, and move on to the next turn. Now everyone is fucking freaking out. People need to stop these kind of post >>24718725 >>24718682 >>24718606
>>24718795Huh go Isen and Mage.
>>2471879520's for isen and mage sweet
>>24718795those 20's better be ours.
ouch, two mer hit, mage critfailed. Tara just critted a mer/ Everyone else missed.
>>24718824Yeah, sure you were. Just like I was. Do you want to measure e-peens?
>>24718836I think those were for the Mer and Tara, actually. So it evens out.
>>24718836Nope, count again. Dana drawing her stick isn't a roll.>>24718829This.
first roll is Lea, next 4 ar the Mer, Mage is the nat 1, Tara is the nat 20, Isen is the 3
>>24718829We're just so invested in the story now...trying so hard not to lose anything.
>>24718795FUCK YEAH I DID SOMETHING!THAT'S CALLED THE NEWGATE BUMP!
>>24718851>>24718824BOYS. We just finished an argument. Let's not start another.
>>24718829I can understand people being frustrated at this point, but this isn't acceptable right now.
>>24718875No that's not being invested. That's being a bitch.
>>24718795Lea takes a hit.Dana gets hit and that causes her to fall back into the water.Tara, in return, hits her mer so hard you're amazed that the poor guy is still standing. Half of his ribs must be pulped.Mage tries to cast a spell, but one shouldn't cast lighting when one is standing in water yourself. He doesn't hurt himself, just shocks himself to the ground where he twitches for a bit.Your turn
>>24718829Bullcrap there was that 3 hour debacle with the fucking Ghouls that Echo just ended last week due to saving everyone's sanity. and the whole thing with saving Trica from our crit 20 of death.
>>24718829actually battles always stretched on longer then they should. We have something like 5-10 rounds in a row where we don't hit. And that happens way to often for someone who is trained in battle.
>>24718902SNAKE STAB! Impale him with Beacon!
>>24718891Fine. Long story short, I was working up to using an imagename joke along with something about genital length.
>>24718902Beacon attack on Adahn. Get it charged; it's at 3, so that's just one more hit.>>24718829So much this.Remember last thread? Flying a kite? Sailing away?So quickly we forget with a few bad dice rolls.