>>24509259
Start learning sorcery.

"Sure am, let's do this."

I figure we can get some information out of him after class when we hang around to chat.

We still need to find out who the other first circle Dextra is.

>>24509259
sure lets go over things. and chance we could go over a shield/ elemental Resistance?

"Let's get to it, then," you say.

"Good, good," he replies, then starts taking out books and notes.

Roll Mind to learn what he has to teach. You get a +2 for Focus, a +2 for Calm, and a +1 for Memory. I'll consider the first eight linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 26

>>24509390
Rolls

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>>24509390
>critfail
>fall madly in love with Pierre for his excellent teaching methods.

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>>24509390

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>>24509390

Take notes, have Liz and Dad look them over for pitfalls and traps when we get home.

Rolled 80

>>24509390
Rolling

Rolled 43

>>24509390

Rolled 81

>>24509390

tally ho!

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>>24509390
Rolling.

>>24509390
study really hard

>>24509415
>>24509424
>>24509434
3/8
Pretty respectable.

>>24509400
I think we'd need 8 1's for that to happen.

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>>24509424
>>24509434
You get a lot of studying in over the next few hours. Pierre shows you a lot about Sorcery that you didn't know before, and, just as importantly, you take a lot of useful notes for later. As the session starts winding down, Pierre asks, "So, is there anything in particular you wanted to know how to do? I can try to show you if I know."

What do you say?

>>24509496
Ask about >>24509339

>>24509496
Ask him about the possibility of making a zero point energy reactor out of magic rocks.

>>24509496
Nice, we made some pretty good progress in that lesson.

Ask him about using sorcery to enhance kinetic force (basically so we can hit harder).

>>24509509
Max doesn't know enough about science or science fiction to even begin asking anything like that.

>>24509496
Ask about making an elevator/instant teleportation between fixed points.

>>24509504
>>24509517
Seconding these.

>>24509529
>instant teleportation questions
>guy who knows next to nothing about any schools except sorcery

Let's not ask conjuration questions, please.

>>24509496
Remember how he destroyed an apple with a finger? Ask him how he used sorcery to do that and if he made it stronger since the start of the year.

>>24509538
Right, no teleportation then. The elevator still sounds ok ?

>>24509519
Doesnt matter. She knows floaty spinny rocks can be strapped to stuff to make enery

>>24509573
Could do, although we'd probably need to hook a spirit up to it to power it. We could at least ask for his opinion on keeping the sorcery elements to keep the platform airborne.

>>24509546
>>24509529

Yeah, might as well learn how to use sorcery for more punching power.

"What about some kind of heat shield?" you ask. "Something to keep me at a comfortable temperature - not let in or out too much heat."

"Sure," he says, nodding. "I can definitely show you that. You just pick how warm or cool it wants to keep you, then, the better you do with it, the more quickly it adjusts. Easy."

He takes out a few simple foci - a lighter, a little shield charm - and starts walking you through trying to cast it for yourself.

Roll Sorcery. You get a +1 from him helping you and a +2 from temporary foci. I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 43

>>24509698
>1

Rolled 40

>>24509698

Rolled 4

>>24509698
rollan

Rolled 70

>>24509698
All aboard the failtrain.

Rolled 32

>>24509698

Rolled 49

>>24509698

ONES FOR THE ONE GOD

FAIL FOR THE FAIL THRONE.

>>24509724
...or not, apparently.

>>24509724
Safe!

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You manage to put something together. You don't notice its effects at first, but over the course of the next minute or two, the uncomfortable draft of the library fades slowly into a perfectly pleasant room temperature. "Wow, that really works," you say agreeably.

"I'm glad it did," Pierre says, nodding. "Do you have any more questions about anything?"

What do you say?

>>24509762
Well, we could ask him about using Sorcery to increase kinetic force, but we can't do any more practice right now, sadly.

Otherwise, take the opportunity to chat for a bit, ask him how things are going since we helped him with his project, see if we can make some passing comment to the other Dextra in the year and convince him to let anything slip about who it is without being too obvious.

>>24509762
Ask him about the apple trick >>24509546 .

>>24509762
Pump him for general information about hunting for things? How they are found, what kind of resources he gets from Dextra for that kind of thing.

Nothing important, just silly little things like how they might find dragons or vampires.. or demon-ancestry people. See if there are more methods then what has been shown to us.

"So, how about that apple trick?" you ask him. He gives you a blank look. He has no idea what you're talking about. "You know, on the first day of class? You flicked that apple apart?"

"Oh," he says. "Yes, what about that?"

"How did you do that?" you ask.

"I just cast a kinetic energy spell," he says, looking confused. "The flick was, uh, theatrics."

"Oh," you say. "Okay. So, how were you planning on tracking down a dragon, anyway?"

"Well, it shouldn't be too hard to find, I think," he says, shrugging. "I can use Sorcery to see infrared, and I've gone hunting before. The tricky part would be killing it without getting hurt."

What do you say now?

>>24509903
YESS INFRAVISION ASK ABOUT INFRAVISION

>>24509903
Ask him what hunts he's been on before. Also ask if he usually goes alone. Might be a good chance to bring the conversation around to the other Dextra member.

>>24509903
Aren't we on the hunt for dragon blood? We ought to make sure we are on this hunt.

>>24509977
We already asked in yesterday's thread and he agreed, as I recall.

>>24509903
>>24509977
>>24509986

Ask him if he knows any spots that we can hunt wyvern/dragon monsters.

>>24509912
we need to work in how we like it wen boys let us lead and something about guys dolling themselves up for us. You know makeup and such. To slowly make him receptive to our plan to sissify him.

>>24510026
Let's try to be a little subtle here, please.

>>24509912

Why? modern NVGs are superior to infrared vision because they can autodamp and pick out human outlines and shit.

Granted, we'd probably have a LITTLE trouble getting the gucci kit, but we're fucking wizards, we don't gotta explain shit!

"How do you handle infrared vision?" you ask curiously.

"Ah, very simple," he says. "Just shift the wavelengths into the visible spectrum as they enter my eyes. Very, very simple."

"So, I actually might be interested in going on a dragon hunt," you say, leaning in a bit to enter his personal space and put him off balance. He looks at you nervously. "When can we do that? Where would we start?"

"Ah, well," he stammers. "There is still a lot of dust from that big bang a while back. A lot of it blew away but, ah, there might still be track around. Or stool. We might be able to spot something from somewhere high up too. I think we would mostly need to go into the school, then narrow the search as we find clues. We could maybe go this weekend, perhaps?"

What else do you say?

>>24510060
He sees whatever we say in the best possible light. I am bad at that bur we still want to lead him that way. That was just a short rundown of things to mix into the conversation.

>>24510081
Ask him about his previous experience with hunts, whether he always hunts alone or if he's gone with others.

>>24510099
Might as well.

>>24510099
Seconding.

>>24510081
>>24510099
work in something about how we want to lead but understand his experience we like boys to follow us.

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>>24510081
>Shifting wavelength
Guys ! I think this is something we can weaponize too. This is an opportunity for a gamma-ray flashlight.

"So, how much experience do you have with these hunts?" you ask. "Have you gone on many?"

"Ah, no, not exactly," he says awkwardly. "I've gone hunting before with my family. Bird hunting. And I went on a group hunt at the beginning of the year. Some high-circle Hands took us all out to demonstrate. We killed a giant fire... Thing."

"So this would be your first semi-independent hunt," you say. It's not really a question.

"Well... Yes," he admits. "Is that a problem?"

What do you say?

>>24510175
"No no, that's not a problem, I'm honoured to help. I'm surprised they let first circles go hunting alone though. Didn't they suggest you teaming up with the other first circle Dextra? Uh... who was that again?"

Something like this.

>>24510175
no but second and third circle Lotus members can strangle a dragon to death safely it would be good to let me lead. I like when little boys follow.

>>24510175
"So, why a dragon for your first target?"

>>24510213
>I like when little boys follow.

Please stop.

Be patient, we will have our chance, but you can't keep on trying to hammer that line into this conversation.

>>24510238
the first time was bad i admit mow is a perfect time for it. Is the rest of my post ok? It conveys what i want more subtly.

>>24510277
I'd say rather than saying it now, we just take charge on the actual hunt as much as we can.

Actions, rather than words, will teach him to be submissive.

>>24510277
That's not subtle at all.

>>24510175
mmm... if he makes it known that he goes hunting for a dragon on the weekend then it would be the ideal time to disappear him.
But if he makes it known that you are coming with him then it ruins that plan. So, perhaps some social fu is needed her to convince him to say the right things. Or enchantment (seeds).

Are we giving him a chance to come around and realize that non-humans are people too though or just immediate mindrape?

>>24510322
I think we're taking the long road with this one.

Let's do this hunt with him, and try and win him over to our way of thinking over time.

I'm starting to think that the only reason Pierre thinks the way he does is because he's a dumbass who's never learned any better.

Not saying we still can't sissify him someday, mind you.

>>24510322
Can't we mess with biology and let him go to school ? If the first 32 people in class are our followers, we can relax.

>>24510302
true but i don't see a problem wit the first part of my statement. He should know some of what we can do and that tells him that and makes us seem strong to him.
>>24510304
how is
"no but second and third circle Lotus members can strangle a dragon to death safely it would be good to let me lead."
not subtle?

>>24510322
we wont need to disappear him this hunt and yes that is my plan at least
"Are we giving him a chance to come around and realize that non-humans are people too though or just immediate mindrape?"

>>24510357
>If the first 32 people in class are our followers, we can relax.

How are we going to make that happen?

>>24510345
I agree completely.

>>24510345
>Not saying we still can't sissify him someday, mind you.
I actually want to make him a long term mole on the hand. Or barring that kill him or make him drop out.
Its just that the consensus is to make him a slave so I figured, why wait?

>>24510357
No because its well known that only lotus or archmages can do that. And because the older hands will notice he suddenly grows boobs and might look into his mind and find the mind seed that says "don't be suspicious of max powers"

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>>24510376
one at a time wit magic and or diplomacy.
>>24510357
biology to obvious plus we haven't checked the rat to see if we have it down yet. But making him ours is good.

>>24510357
Are you suggesting we mindrape and then release half the students in the class?
And do you honestly think nobody will notice?

>>24510391
>No because its well known that only lotus or archmages can do that. And because the older hands will notice he suddenly grows boobs and might look into his mind and find the mind seed that says "don't be suspicious of max powers"

This is my main concern. I'd love to sissify him, but I am worried it will get the DD after us.

>>24510391
>why wait?
some of us wan him as our willing slave after we ask not force him to quit DD and thus drop out.

>>24510449
Not only will it get DD after us. But it will be a terrible rep for Max with the other students (not because anyone gives a damn about pierre, but because of what max did to him). Remember Dane has a policy of "survivors have their memories of me removed and are made to drop out" to limit retaliation from allies and to keep his reputation intact.

>>24510456
At which point you kidnap and then sisify him in tower. And nobody ever finds out it was done by max powers.

We should work in a reference to the other first year hand and ask her name.

>>24510500
Indeed, hence why I said >>24510203

>>24510175

Let him know that we'll think about it, but we don't like the sound of it as is.

Then, go home, take Liz to our bed, and make sure she can't move while we make gentle love to her until she can't even beg for more, then cuddle up to her for a while

We need to get the metaphorical slime off us.

>>24510481
>kidnap
No he will come willingly he will disappear and if he ever comes out in public it will likely be as Patricia but he came willingly so not kidnaping.
>sisify
We wont force him but eventually he will accept it yes that is the plan.

>>24510538
we need the other Dextras name first

"No, it's fine," you say, waving your hand. "I'll just have to make sure I'm prepared to fight a dragon. It shouldn't be too tricky. So, who are the other Hands in the class, anyway? The ones who went on the hunt, that is."

"Oh," he says. "Well, Maria was supposed to before she disappeared. I only got to meet her once. Now it's just me and Dana in the first circle."

Aha! Dana Patrick. You never would have guessed that she was a Hand. From what you can tell - from what you've seen in class - her specialty is non-invasive Enchantment. Telepathy, mind shields, that kind of thing. Maybe it should have been obvious, in retrospect. You think she has a knack for banishing spirits or at least teleporting things as well.

She's a dark-haired, freckle-faced, scrawny, bespectacled girl. Maybe her appearance is what made you not suspect her. She probably joined for reasons related to faith, you think, or was recruited for her specialties.

What do you say?

>>24510545
>No he will come willingly
Now you are just being silly. You are not going to, without mind magic, make him become the loyal slave of a half demon dickgirl who wants to transgender him.

>>24510545
>Patricia
That's the feminine of Patrick. Pierre is the French version of Peter. He should be renamed Petra or something if we go that route.

>>24510560
Ask him about the other two first circles, mention that we never even met Maria, just be friendly and conversational about it.

I'm kind of curious to hear his take on the DD's retaliation (or if he even knows about it).

>>24510593
This, I'm kind of curious to hear about both his opinion on Dana, and what he thought of Maria from their one meeting.

If we can subtly bring it around to mentioning the DD retaliation, that would be good.

Whether or not he seems to have any doubts about his society nailing three first years to the wall and setting fire to them will go a long way to deciding how gently we wish to bring him over to our way of thinking.

Can we actually decide via a vote going on what our plans with him ARE?
If my list is incomplete, tell me which plan I am missing. Otherwise say which plan you support:

So. So far I saw the following plans suggested:
1. Sissify and then let him grow boobs in public to humilate him.
2. Make him drop out. (sounds fine)
2a. After he drops out, kidnap him and then make him teach us/make foci/be a slave/sissify/whatever
2b. make him willingly become our bitch, renounce his faith, accept us as a half-demon, and willingly be transgendered without mind magics.
3. Make him a long term mole in the hand.

>>24510678
I'm not sure people will ever reach a consensus on what to do.

Everyone seems to have different ideas.

I'm really not sure how to resolve this.

"How much do you know about them?" you ask. "About Dana and Maria. I never really met Maria, and I don't know Dana very well."

"Oh," he says, thinking. "Well, Maria was very pretty. I only really met her once before she disappeared. I think her family was important, or something? She was very devoted to the cause, and a lot of people were very afraid when she went missing. I don't really know anything else about her. Dana, though, she's the favorite student in our year. She's very good at all of the Hand's magic."

"Do you know her very well?" you ask.

"Oh," he says. He seems to think you're jealous. "Oh, ah, no, not very well. She's very mean to me - says I'm a fool, that I can't see things right in front of me. I don't think she has much respect for me. I just wish we could, you know, be good Christians, but for some reason we seem to be competitive, and I'm always losing. I wish I knew what her problem with me is."

You have a feeling that her problem with him is, well, you. If she's that much better than Pierre at the Hand's specialty, you wouldn't be surprised if she knew exactly what you are. That does raise the question of why you haven't be disappeared yet - and why she hasn't told Pierre.

What do you say?

>>24510693
Well, it seems to me a lot of the different plans were proto-ideas that people had and abandoned.
Looking at what people are currently arguing for I have narrowed it down to just 3 plans.

It seems that #1 has overwhelming opposition which we can confirm easily enough. And that narrows it down to just 2 or 3.
Whether we kidnap him after he drops out and what specific mods we make on him then can be debated when he is a slave at the tower. if we even go with #2.

>>24510736
Ohh, delicious drama. I can't imagine DD actually dislikes Pierre enough to want him to disappear. Maybe they just have a "survival of the fittest" attitude.

>>24510736
I believe its time for us to leave, we learned alot of things today.

>>24510736
Ask him about the 'rumoured' attack by the Dextra on the special dorms.

Make sure that when we ask, we make it sound like we aren't sure whether we believe it or not, which is why we're asking him.

>>24510736
>She's very mean to me - says I'm a fool, that I can't see things right in front of me
Yea, she is obviously referring to Max being a half-demon. Which is actually rather a big deal for max... maybe they are using pierre as bait for max hoping he leads them to the kidnapped Maria?

>>24510775
sure, why not.

>>24510736
So they know what we are. And they were really worried about Breakfast.

I don't like this.

>>24510797
>>24510803
I doubt they think Max is involved in that, if they thought that, we'd already have been grabbed and mindfucked for information.

They're probably just leaving it alone, figuring that if Pierre can be misled that easily, he's not worth the effort.

>>24510803
Well, they probably don't know that we're related to her disappearance.
Yet.

>>24510797
This phrasing could also mean she is going all tsundere on him.

>>24510803
Just because Pierre is stupid doesn't mean DD is. I'm honestly not surprised they know our secret, but I am curious what their normal strategy is when they find one in the school.

We should look into/ask Dad about what DD specifically has done to part-demon students. May be they view the school as neutral ground or something (though I doubt it).

>>24510844
>"S-stupid Pierre, it, it's not like I really care if the demon girl gives you the D."

>>24510830
You are right. also in retrospect there are various other enemies of the hand at the school.
Plus it was done by a 5th circle full blooded incubus so any divinations they did would indicate as such.

>>24510859
As I understand it, they might want to have their lowbies cut their teeth on the other lowbie students. And there are the other societies, other archmages, etc to consider.

>>24510859
I think this was covered before. In general, DD only go after supernatural students who seem like an active threat.

If they knew we had Breakfast, they'd disappear us right now. As it is, they have no reason to hunt us when there are more dangerous things out there.

No-one else picked up on this, but, Dana's specialities include Telepathy. There is a lot of shit in our brain that could get us in trouble if she ever decides to read out thoughts.

We need to boost our mind shield.

Question, should we go after Dana?
Taking out pierre would probably put her on high alert and risks exposing ourselves to the hand.
So she makes a better first strike target then him. Heck, at this rate he is going to fail out at the end of the year without any actions from us.

>>24510904
It was written as a sub-category of "non-invasive Enchantment", so I brushed it of as simply communication.

>>24510921
I don't think we should actively target Dana, if she goes missing too, it will put the DD on high alert because they'll think someone is actively picking off their members.

I think all we really need to do is prepare, so that we have everything in place for if she starts a conflict with us.

>>24510921
I see the incoming fun :
Next year, new pro-DDs see all their members were picked out quickly. Newcomers that would usually be confined in DD go radical or (worse) undercover.

>>24510965
I do recall being told by multiple people that most Dextra don't make it past the first few years, so it wouldn't be anything new.

>>24510775
ok yea

>>24510930
the mindseed we put in pierre is probably considered non invasive either. It wouldn't trigger a spell virus.
Also, she also specializes in mind shields as explicitly stated.

>>24510933
MANY someones are actively picking their members.
And keep in mind that this argument is an equal reason why we shouldn't go after pierre.
At least pierre is going to fail out on his own, she is very competent and specializes in mind magic. She figured out what we are.

If we disappear her, remove the evidence of our tampering from Pierre, and then and then "reveal" ourselves to pierre and try to convince him to see us as people publicly, where he spurns us (or maybe even accepts)... well that would definitely throw the blame off of us.
We could even have an airtight alibi, we can have dad disappear her while we are with pierre in a public place.

"There was an attack on the special dorms at the beginning of the year," you say. "Three students get killed. A lot of people think Dextra Domini was behind it, and are pretty leery of the hands because of that. Do you know anything about that?"

Pierre looks uncomfortable at the topic. "I, ah. I've heard rumors. That it was some kind of retaliation, for Maria. I... I don't really know," he says. "We're not really clued in on that. Or, well, I'm not, anyway."

"Pierre... Why aren't they telling you anything?" you ask.

The question hangs there in the air for a few long, awkward moments before he finally says, "I... I don't know, Max. Can... Can we be done for now, maybe? I'll see you tomorrow."

"Yeah, sure," you say, not wanting to push it further. You know that he has that seed in his head, but you're not sure how far you can push it. Still, maybe you just planted the seed of doubt. He walks quickly out of the library.

As soon as he's gone, the librarian gestures for you to come over. "I was spying on the two of you," she says frankly. "You seem to enjoy bribing me. If you can bring me some dragon blood, scales, and maybe the heart, I would consider it a nice bribe. It would save me quite some time if I didn't have to get them myself."

What do you say?

>>24511048
"ill do my best to get it to you " (big smile)

>>24511048
"I'll see what I can do. I do enjoy being on your good side."

Should be plenty of dragon bits to go around that we can save for our third dryad.

>>24511048
I was planning on doing it anyways, with the size of the thing there should be plenty to go around and then some, and keeping you happy means I get quality access to the library.

>>24511048
Of course she does. The question is, do we have anything we want in return right now?

>>24511048
You are saying a bit too much or too little here Madam. Would it be rude if I asked you what you plan to do with those items ?

Indicate we have a new Dryad. Restrain self from squealing.

>>24511076
>>24511077
good answers, how about combining them as:
"ill do my best to get it to you (big smile), I do enjoy being on your good side."

>>24511113
Info on what the other faculty likes being bribed with? Also by having our pierre sessions in the library we are ensured privacy by some of the most powerful wards as well as her reputation. Which is rather high expense for what we are doing with him.

>>24511048
You know what? I think we can really get Pierre over to our side naturally.

Oh, how Liz would hate that.

>>24511113
If we keep her bribed, we can ask for things as we need them. I'm sure we can think of something we want from her.

>>24511116
Hah, no. She's not the kind of person we press for info.

Oh man, I went through and read all of recent archives yesterday.

Probably something like 70 threads over the course of 8 hours. Was a good read, and I am ready to be back.

>>24511129
We'll never actually be able to bring him completely into our confidence without mind control, he will not react well to discovering Breakfast.

>>24511141
Well, she's most receptive to helping us right after we deliver something to her. Seems kind of a waste to give her something good, and then come back six months later with "so, do you remember that dragon heart I gave you a while ago..."

>>24511116
If we do ask her what she wants with them we gotta do it in a more respectful manner then that.
"you ask too much" is terrible thing to say to one of the most terrifying members of faculty.

Now, when you get her a HEFTY bribe of dragon ingredients you could ask her respectfully

>>24511163
Basically, we can ask her for books covering any of the things we currently have projects underway for. We will be able to think of something to ask for when we deliver them.

>>24511157
Interpersonal augments and soul rolls can solve everything.

Until crit fail.

>>24511116
Oh brother, do NOT say this.

She has never reacted well to us pressing her for information in the past. At all.

How about we tell her about the ancient sanctum with the ruined books we found? Some of them might be lost library books. We could ask her on means of restoring them and of course state that if any are library books we will bring them to her.

>>24511157
That is a good observation. Also hand does not allow deserters

>>24511113
Don't we want some chemistry, in order to understand what the form memory alloy is about ?

>>24511248
Petrov suggested we look into chemistry and materials science stuff if we wanted to do alchemy-enhanced materials, We don't need the librarian for that, we just need to pick up a couple ordinary textbooks first.

>>24511248
Yes, we do, good point, we should ask for that when we deliver the dragon stuff.

>>24511248
We can pick up books like that from regular libraries and book stores.

We get magical stuff from this library.

>>24511048
tell her yes also
we need to ask about Wendy

>>24511291
some of that stuff might not actually be possible to make without the use of magic, so we should still ask her about it.

Basically, purely magical materials, including metals and minerals, as well as impossible alloys created by magic, someone has got to have done the research on this in the past.

>>24511248
we can learn from mundane sources first.

>>24511329
We haven't done, and are not ready, for impossible materials yet. We should start with improving existing materials with alchemy first.

>>24511329
lets have a good grasp of the mundane basis first. Otherwise we wont understand the best texts on that.

"Understood, ma'am," you tell her. "When I bag one, I'll see what I can do."

"Good girl," the librarian says, giving you a sweet smile. "You're learning how this works better than the other students. I'm quite pleased by how our arrangement is turning out."

"Oh, that reminds me," you say. "My second little girl hatched yesterday. She's healthy and intact, just needs a bit of air conditioning. How's Wendy doing, by the way?"

"Oh, she's doing wonderfully," the librarian says. "She's learning very quickly. I might be able to give her some useful chores soon too."

What else, if anything, do you talk about?

>>24511312
we can also tell her how Selene is such a good big sister to Alison and how Alison opened her crib.

>>24511364
>I might be able to give her some useful chores soon too."
Ye gods. Another reason to stay on her good side right there.

>>24511364
talk more about our respective daughters try to subtly find out if it would be safe to schedule a play date.

>>24511364
I'd say go home and plan how to make some nice safe stairs.

So, anyone else thinks we should target dana rather then pierre and simply let pierre fail out on his own?

I would like to amend my previous plan of having him as our alibi though, it would easily get our mind modifications of him caught. But being somewhere public when she disappears to dad would still work, especially if we lay some groundwork pointing at another student as the likely cause of her disappearance.

>>24511364
Nothing really, lets not forget that the Librarian isn't the friendly type. Be polite and say goodbye, we need to check on the girls

>>24511397
Fuck off, we ain't letting a wendigo abomination anywhere near Selene and Alison.

>>24511397
Stop asking for this.

The Librarian's dryad is a terrifying monstrosity. Plus the Librarian wouldn't trust anyone enough to actually let her daughter out in the open while she's still vulnerable.

>>24511412
I kinda want to ask Dana why she hasn't told Pierre about us, no mind control, no drama, just curiosity.

>>24511438
Indeed, could be interesting.

>>24511364
Nothing else I can think of, maybe chat a bit more about dryads, then say our goodbyes and head back to the tower.

>>24511438
>I kinda want to ask Dana why she hasn't told Pierre about us, no mind control, no drama, just curiosity.

Because we are on Murderhogwards and its survival of the fittest? Keep in mind that Pierre is the most hated first year student, we are literally the only person he hangs out with.

>>24511416
I would agree that this might not be a good idea.
However, to be fair the librarian used a set of magics that effectively removes all the "monstrosity" portions leaving just the "near immortal" part.

>>24511412
>Pierre fail out naturally
Fem can you please say what is pierre's current class rank? (I am assuming all class rankings are public).
As well as how many months away we are from the fail/pass date for year 1?

>>24511438
its tempting, but there are many things that can go wrong there.
Not the least of which is the fact we reveal to her that we know she is the other dextra in the class and that this info came from pierre. Pierre blowing the cover of a fellow hand is justification for the elder hands to intervene and then they can find our little seed in his mind and the flawed mind shield.

"It was nice talking to you," you say, trying to politely excuse yourself. "I'll be back if I get dragon parts."

"I'll look forward to it," the librarian says, giving you a smile which, though well-intentioned, fills you with a vague sense of dread.

You head on out of the library and fire off a text to your dad. A minute or two later and you're standing in the tower's inbound circle. Your dad and Lunch are both there.

"Selene and Alison got into a bit of a fight," your dad tells you. "From what I can tell, Alison threw a tantrum over something and started hitting Selene, then Selene bit her. Elizabeth is talking to each of them. You should probably go do something."

What do you do?

>>24511635
YOU HAD ONE JOB LIZ

ONE JOB

>>24511503 >>24511415 >>24511416
I don't want to bring that up at all till we are sure it is safe but i want to know and >>24511503 may be right she may be safe but if we don't ask we will never know.
Plus the librarian may enjoy it.

>>24511635
Go see them.

>>24511635
We say hi, and we go see.

>>24511660
this not >>24511649

>>24511649
don't actually yell that at dad.

>>24511660
+1

>>24511649
I'm worried that she is hitting both of them, actualy.

>>24511649
they are siblings they will fight we need firm loving simple discipline. To teach them.

>>24511691
We told her not to before she knows that would piss us off royal.

>>24511675
Why would we yell that at dad?

>>24511635
Oh boy, go see our daughters.

>>24511691
Liz knows our views on hitting children, she won't do that.

>>24511706
correction. Don't actually yell that at LIZ.

I am guessing Selene didn't resort to mindraping Alison when the fight broke (probably... as Alison still hit her, verify?). That is commendable.

Rolled 62

When do we use living alchemy on Pierre?

"Thanks," you tell your dad, then start heading straight down the ladder. You find Liz and your girls in their room. Liz is holding Alison, who is sniffling into her shoulder, and Selene is sitting on her bed, looking equal parts worried and angry. "What happened?" you ask.

Selene just pouts, turning away from you. Liz speaks up. "Alison tried to take Selene's toys from her," she says. "When Selene wouldn't hand them over, Alison started hitting her. Selene decided the best way to resolve the situation was to bite her sister. And here we are."

You take a closer look. You see a pink bruise on Selene's waxy white arm. Alison has some blue-green teeth marks on her hands, but it doesn't look the skin got broken, which you find odd considering those fangs of Selene's.

What do you do?

>>24511635
separate them,different rooms get the story from Selene, then tell her how she should handle the situation in the future, like sharing, even when you don't want to and not hurting your sister, but protecting them...bla bla bla

>>24511772
Scold selene for biting then take allison away from liz and scold her for hitting her sister.make them say they're sorry and hug it out. maybe remember to have a talk with liz about this when the kids aren't around.

>>24511772
Selene seems to have taken a beating, she either held back to not break the skin or she is just that much weaker then alisson despite age difference.

1. Comfort Selene, she just got beat up for the first time in her life.
2. Verify selene didn't mess with alisson's mind, if she didn't then praise her for it.
3. Healing magic?
4. Explain to Selene that Alisson was being bad, but only because she is too young to understand better yet. So she should forgive her sister, and until she is old enough to understand to be more lenient.
5. Have selene with you to make up with alisson
6. Distract them both with something fun.

>>24511772
Scold Selene for not sharing with her little sister, a big sister should share with er little sister, scold Alison for trying to take her sisters toys after she had said no and scold them both for hurting each other

A SCOLDING FOR EVERYONE

>>24511821
>>24511885
>>24511912
A combination of those seems ok.

>>24511885
Selene didn't bite until after she took a beating. She has a bunch of bruises. She could have been seriously hurt or even killed by Alison inadvertedly if she didn't defend herself. Its important that they are not left unsupervised in the future.

>>24511772
Ask Liz how she handled it first! Talk with the girls about love and respect etc. Make them feel bad so they cry and then go make some awesome food!
Bring them down and pick them back up again. That's how parenting works, right?

>>24511772

this is a very delicate situation.

tell them it is unacceptable to hurt their own sister.

we HAVE to treat them equally or else they'll get the idea that we treat one of them better.

>>24511912
I am pretty sure Alison doesn't even know how to speak yet, as she just hatched.

>>24511947
We also have to make sure not to undermine liz's authority.

>>24511954
she cant fully pronounce some sylible heavy words but she knows what we say to her

>gearing up for dragon hunt with Pierre
So what are we going to do when/if said dragon turns out to be intelligent and non-hostile, but Pierre wants to kill it anyway?

>ndarnmt character
Captcha is astute as always.

>>24512002
We kill it for loot.

>>24511982
We've taught her a handful of names. Syntax and actual language are still beyond her. She'll certainly understand our tone, however.

>>24511931
are you fucking serious, alison wouldnt have killed her and they dont need to be kept seperated, just diciplined and taught some maners.

>>24512002
>Dragons
>Not around to be killed and their loot seized.

Have you read any myths ever?

>>24512016
Exactly

>>24512020
I didn't say separated, I said supervised at all times.
Alison is too young to understand even the concept of death and is ridiculously fucking strong due to using jutuun and dvergar. While Selene is very frail due to vampire lord.

>>24512042
Or befriended and ridden.
DRAGON RIDER MAX POWER.
Has a nice ring to it.

>>24512042
>>24512011
>believing dragon stories passed down largely by the church
Saint George was a thug and a murderer.

>>24512101
>Implying we care about stories
>Implying it isn't standard PC behavior to kill dragons and steal their loot.

I just want to be friends with Pierre...

@Femcock: How old are selene and alisson right now? I lost track of their age.

>>24512140
I'm afraid his deeds cannot ever be forgiven.

You frown and go over to Selene. You scoop her up and put her in your lap so she can't turn away from you, not that the direction she's facing is too big of a deal for her. "So?" you ask her. "What exactly happened."

"What mommy said," Selene says, still trying to turn away from you.

"Why didn't you want to share with your sister?" you ask.

"'cause I was playing with the blocks. She wouldn't wait her turn and doesn't know how to talk, so she wouldn't listen."

"So she got mad and hit you?" you ask. Selene nods. "And you bit her?" She nods again, more slowly. "How did you get ahold of her?" you ask. "And why isn't she bleeding?"

"I grabbed her hand," she says. "And she kept trying to hit me. So I bit her, but with just my front teeth. 'cause my fangs are pointy."

"And then Alison started crying?" you ask.

"Uhuh..." Selene says. She sounds like she's on the verge of crying too.

You pull her closer. "Listen, sweetie, you need to be patient with your sister while she's learning how to talk," you explain. "I'm very proud of the fact that you tried not to hurt her and didn't do anything to her mind, but since you're the big one, it's your responsibility to keep anything like this from happening in the first place. Okay?"

"Okay..." she says, sounding ashamed.

What do you do?

>>24511772
use enchantement to make them realise what the other feel.

>>24512145
Alison is one day old and Selene is, what, nearly two months old? She was born in mid September, right?

>>24512175
>His deeds
What has he done, aside from blindly joining dicknazis because he doesn't know any better?

>>24512196
Kiss her, get everyone to make up. Then food and fun (movies?).

>>24512203
Thank you. IIRC you stated every 1 month of dryad growth is about the same as 1 year of human?
So in human age Selene would be 2 year old and Alison 12 days old.

>>24512201
No.

>>24512196

have Alison take a look at the bruising on Selene's arm and wave an disapproving finger at her with a stern expression on our face.

she should be intelligent enough to figure it out.

then have both make peace.

>>24512254
Except they're born at the developmental level of about two-year-olds.

>>24512196
Call Alison out on bein a straight up busta and dat hittin an OG aint chill and dat shit dont fly in our turf yo, can ya digit?

>>24512236
I think it's become clear he only joined them because they're an arm of the church, not because it fit his skills.

>>24512196
FEM. You are so awesome at writing this! I want a Selene...

>>24512289
That is an important distinction I was not aware of. Thanks for clarifying.

>>24512322
On first day he gave us a speech about how all demons are forever irredeemable and must be murdered. He is actively spouting hateful ideology.
But talking is pretty much all he has done and we have started to convince him otherwise.

>>24512327
This particular event is me ripping off shit my niece and nephew actually did to each other.

>>24512322
He joined them because he's christian and he heard that they are a christian circle.

>>24512384
Real life stress is the best inspiration for fictional conflict.

>>24512196
Let them make up, then teach Selene the concept of sharing. I don't think we've really told her about that stuff yet.

>>24512384
HA!
Right, now we need to make them both feel bad +guiltier. Then make them some tasty snacks to make them feel better.

>>24512459
yep

>>24512384
scold Alison the tone will get through then smacks and fun with our girls and there moms.

>>24512524
> then smacks and fun with our girls and there moms.
I really hope that was you misspelling snacks.

You head over to Alison and Liz. You point at her sister's bruises. "That's not acceptable," you say sternly to Alison. "She's your sister. You can't hit her just because she doesn't give you what you want. Do you understand, little lady?"

Alison starts crying again, her cold tears leaving goosebumps down Liz's arm.

What do you do?

>>24512595
Ok you did enough chastising.
Group hug, get them to make up and say sorry, and then snacks and entertainment.

>>24512595
Let her cry a bit, then on to the snacks and fun times. Can't undercut the message by going straight to fun shit.

>>24512595
Don't know if she really understood that, but I guess we need to make sure they both apologise to each other.

>>24512595

sit down somewhere comfortable, Liz can keep holding on to Alison and we'll just sit quietly while everyone calms down.

when she does calm down, take Both Selene and Alison in a hug and kiss Liz

>i wish i had more experience with kids.

>>24512667
Kids are easy if you keep a cool head and think a little. Experience with them isn't necesarry.

>>24512595
Let her work it out of her system, and then let the two make up with a hug. after they've calmed down, the four of us can have some fun.

>>24512667
this sounds like a good plan
>>24512702
only because we evolved for child rearing.

You let Alison cry it out before taking the two girls and sitting them both down on your lap. "Now, you two hug and make up," you tell them. Selene reaches out and puts her arm around her little sister, whispering an apology... And Alison sinks her gums into Selene's shoulders, and angry look on her little face.

"Mamaaa!" Selene protests, looking up at you for guidance. She doesn't look pained, just confused.

What do you do?

>>24513021
Give Alison a stern and simple "No, we don't bite" and make her try it again until she gets it right.

>>24513039
This. We need to be certain to emphasize with Allison not to use her strength and violence to solve her problems. We may want to consider teaching her a good since of discipline, perhaps martial arts, as she gets older. We don't want our baby girl growing up into a bully.

>>24513021

give Alison a look of disappointment.

>>24513021
Laugh, and tell Selene that this is what she taught her sister.

Then be serious and make them do it right.

>>24513176
No no no, Alison will hear the laugh and assume that biting is funny.

>>24513198
Although it is salient to point out that Selene is setting a bad example.

>>24513176
Well, in a better parenting sense we can explain to Selene that's why being a big sister is so important. She's setting the example for the little sister.

>>24513109
this

then tell Selene this is what she taught her sister.
no laughing just calm and a hint of disappointment.

>>24513176
No, do not laugh, that sends exactly the wrong message.

"You see what happens when you set a bad example?" you ask, choking down a smile. You pull Alison off her sister. "No. You do NOT bite. Now, give your sister a hug."

Selene hugs her sister again and give her a little kiss on her forehead. After a few seconds of pouting and not participating in the hug, Alison finally hugs back.

What now?

>>24513245
Tell both our girls how proud we are of them for making up.

Then we can spend some time with them. If we play a game with them, we can make sure that they both share their toys this time, to help the message sink in.

>>24513245
Make sure that Selene gets the whole setting an example thing.

"Why do you think Alison bit you when you tried to hug? Where do you think she got the idea to do that?"

>>24513245
Take that paper Petrov gave us and try to make a dragon huntin' bow!

Surprised we didn't grab any books about them to learn just how much force we need to drop one, but I'm sure dad will know something.

>>24513276
I think we've got that through. Now is the time to teach them both to share by playing with them.

>>24513296
steel cable for the bow string and tungsten arrows

>>24513296
Yeah, teaching babbies right from wrong is nice and all, but I'd like to get back to some magic.

>>24513021
Remove Alison's mouth from Selene gently.

>>24513039
She doesn't understand talking yet.

>>24513296
Before even bothering with a bow, we need to try to comprehend and then generate that material.

>>24513313
Precisely. I don't know if Selene would be willing to share her Legos, but we should have a little play session to smooth things out.

Then >>24513296. See if we can't make heads or tails of it.

>>24513265
This. Let's help the message sink in.

>>24513427
>Then >>24513296. See if we can't make heads or tails of it.

Liz is pretty damned smart, we can ask her to help us figure out what it all means.

>>24513425
I consider that step 1 in making a better bow. If we have to site there rolling mind to understand notes, then so be it.

>>24513427
Seconding play session.

Then we can work on the bow.

>>24513444
Hera would probably know more about it because she's an Alchemist Guild member.

>>24513491
This is as much science as alchemy, but I guess we could save it for talking to Hera next time we go to the study room.

>>24513491
Actually, asking Hera if she can help with this might be a good way to actually give her a bit more screen time, and maybe take a step towards giving her the D.

>>24513512
That's probably not going to be until after the dragon hunt.
We should start this betterbow asap.

>>24513444
Wonder how good she is at Chemistry. Our high-school chemistry knowledge may not be enough.

>>24513534
I'd rather we do it right than build some half-assed bow that snaps the first time we try and shoot it at the dragon.

Oh, we should also look up bow cross-sections if we haven't already. American flatbow is best bow, but I don't know if Max knows that at this point.

>>24513590
>Not testing the bow before the hunt
u wont m8?

If the bow does fail, I expect it has enough of a mind to comatose it through enchantment.

>>24513629
>it
it being the dragon

Actually can we even shoot worth a damn? We've done lots of martial arts but we haven't trained in archery at all, and we don't have any warded space big enough for a range.

Can we have our rooms refited as Liz asked ? She was helpful with the girls, we can do this for her.

For when Femcock inevitably returns and says "so what do you actually do?"

My vote is still for playing with our daughters for a bit, and helping teach them about sharing.

>>24513376
I'm going to put on my snapple hat for a moment and say we use frozen mercury arrows.

"Good job," you tell them. "Both of you. Sisters are supposed to love each other and get along. Come on, let's do something together." You nod and Liz and she comes and sits down too. The four of you spend the next few minutes playing with blocks together, though Alison does occasionally shoot Selene a little frown. You think that your littlest girl might be one to hold a grudge.

Eventually, once the girls are playing together nicely, you and Liz slowly step back and let them have fun together.

What do you do now?

>>24513719
The mercury will just shatter on impact and then the dragon will have some heavy metal on the outside of its likely metallic scales.

If we could shoot it into its maw, a nostril, or an eye though, then you might have something. But why bother when we can just get deadly, deadly arrows?

>>24513734
Bowtime

>>24513734
>Alison
>Part Jotunn
>Hold a grudge
There will be no ragnoraks in this house young lady!

>>24513734
>Alison holds a grudge
>dat dorf stubbornness

I've never felt so proud. I bet she'll also like cats and honey brown ale.

>>24513734
Look over the notes from Petrov, if there's any science we don't get, ask Liz about it, since her knowledge of mundane science is probably a damn sight more advanced than ours.

>>24513734
Pick up Liz, give her a deep kiss, and carry her to a convenient surface for some fucking, doing it in front of Lin or one of the Pets would be a bonus.

>>24513761
Who DOESN'T like honey brown ale? That's my favorite way of imbibing alcohol!

>>24513793
This, then >>24513766

How many threads has it been now since we've given anyone the D.

I feel like we're losing our way, /tg/.

>>24513805
Mah nigga!

>>24513523
I like this plan

>>24513793
This first, then we make a murderbow and murderarrows.

>>24513740
>>24513719
Won't help. Pure mercury while toxic isn't actually dangerous as it's unlikely to be absorbed by your body, it needs to be mercury salt to kill you dead and it takes a while.

Oh a quick question : did we phone Mom to tell her she was a grandma again ? I remember the pictures being taken, but not the message being sent.

>>24513986
Yeah we did

>>24513734
Get someone else to keep an eye on our daughters, and go give Liz the D, we haven't been spending enough time with her recently.

So, what's the plan, bang Liz or work on the bow or something?

>>24514171
>work on the bow

>>24514171
Bang Liz, then work on the bow.

Possibly get Liz to help us out with understanding the more advanced science parts Petrov's instructions.

>>24514171
The former, then the latter.

>>24514171
Let's do the bow

>>24514171
Bang Liz, then we can work on the bow, maybe ask Liz about how the materials work as she might know more about them than we do after we've fucked her into a limp mess.

>>24514171

Bow, maybe with help from Liz then bang her as thanks? I feel like we haven't fucked in a while.

>>24514171
We can't do both? At the same time, if possible?

>>24514171
Bow then fuck. Liz is always useless for a few hours after a dicking.

>>24514171
can we do some tantric meditation with Liz on what we learned in our study lesson and then go work on the bow?

Hm, infinite quiver?
A possible neat trick. Lunch powered autoloading bow. Put a button on the bow. when depressed, a light goes on in the tower, and lunch teleports an arrow to a miniature inbound ring on the bow itself, automatically nocking a new arrow.

If we put the time and effort into designing the bow to be both collapsible and self assembling, this could be a cool way to be armed in a manner more subtle than carrying an assault rifle.

>>24514394
An when Lunch gets tapped out of conjuration? some kind of pocket dimension full of arrows might be a better idea.

>>24514394
a construct would be better than lunch and an on sight magic item is almost as doable if not more so. an infinite quiver is good the other stuff is just chaff.

>>24514440
or an automatic alchemy machine like Hera's billfold.

>>24514394
i think it would be better to have quiver use a power source to 'recall' the arrows we have already shot off after a short period of time so that we could enchant our arrows and re-use them until they break (or we decide we don't like the enchanted effect)

>>24514481
You're forgetting that we're going to go into combat with anticonjuration wards up all around us. They'll interfere with the recall.

>>24514481
we could have 3 compartments 1 for alchemy made infinite lighter flight arrows only holds 2-3
1 for infinite alchemical heavy arrows only holds 2-3
1 for teliport recall of all our enchanted arrows.

>>24514536
then we set down a quiver beside us...
we don't need one on our hip

>>24514580
Invalidates a huge part of speed and kills mobility.

>>24514440
Fair, was thinking of having her just craft arrows that are themselves conjuration strain foci. Mounting a dimension hole to the front of the bow that you reach into, then pull straight back out, arrow in hand to nock immediately...

Only downside here is that we know such spaces require a power source to continue existing. Admittedly it's a corner case, but if that power source gets cut off then we're out of ammo at best and missing a hand at worst.
>>24514481
That could work as well, but then we're carrying arrows around. Part of this whole package is the intent of being low profile.

So, automated alchemy construct then? As >>24514536 notes we might disrupt our own conjuration efforts, so rapid fabrication of ammo on site might be a good idea. Carry some 1 inch tungsten ball bearings around, make them alchemy strain foci, turn them into arrows as needed?

>>24514609
>Carry some 1 inch tungsten ball bearings around, make them alchemy strain foci, turn them into arrows as needed?
Why in god's name would we make permanent foci only to destroy them to make arrows?

Make more mundane alchemy foci in our tattoos and just alchemy the arrows out of the air.

>>24514651
Because you need a substance in order to do alchemy, and our arrows need to be extremely strong to not get overtorqued by the bow itself. Pulling trace dirt out of the air is unlikely to yield an arrow of significant structural integrity. The ball bearings (or whatever) could adapt the principles from the collar, allowing them to retain their enchanted properties regardless of shifts in physical configuration. Although that raises the question of power...

A possible way forward: Carry a container of dense metal spheres in what amounts to a mentos tube. These objects have two modes, dormant and active. When dormant, they are sphere shaped and just sit around, absorbing kinetic energy as we walk around. When active, however, they use stored energy to reformat into an arrow. No effort or rolls on our part. The bonus being the possibility that the spheres contain energy in excess of that needed to transumute them, and can be made to release that energy when active and subjected to sufficient impact.

In other words, create self transmuting arrows that dump their excess energy on impact with the target. That has the potential to be rather nasty.

>>24514826
>Pulling trace dirt out of the air is unlikely to yield an arrow of significant structural integrity.

We can make any substance in any purity out of any thing the same mass. All we need to worry about is conservation of mass and we can just pull in from the air and ground you are making an issue where there is none.

>>24514826
You're missing the entire point of what I said.

I didn't say "don't make the arrows out of tungsten"

I did say "don't make the arrows out of the foci you plan to use for the spell, because that will destroy them. Use our tattoos for the foci instead of the raw material for transmutation"

If you take a tungsten ball bearing and turn it into a focus, then turn it into an arrow, it's not a focus anymore.

You walk over to Liz and pick her up, tossing her over your shoulder as you start heading up the ladder. "Mistress!" Liz whines. "Shouldn't I keep watching the kids?"

"Selene can watch her sister for now," you say, continuing to climb. "For now, though, I think my fragile little slut needs some attention."

"...yes, Mistress," Liz submits, no longer squirming or struggling. When you get up to the bed room, you start carefully pulling all of Liz's clothes off as she works on yours. You weren't kidding about her being fragile either; if it weren't for how you increased your Coordination, you would be worried about accidentally damaging her or her clothes.

As soon as you're both out of them, you lift Liz up by her ass. She barely weighs more than a feather to you now, so it's easy to hold her up in the air to fuck her, leaving her with no ground or bed to touch down on. She puts her arms around her neck to keep upright, one hand on her ass and one on her back as you lower her onto your cock. She wraps her legs around you, holding on tight, as you slowly, pleasantly start sliding her up and down your cock.

You're glad you have boosted Perception. With it, and your Shield, your sense of touch is down to normal levels. She's tight around you and moaning in your ear. "Harder..." she finally begs. You've been going softer for the past few weeks for fear of accidentally hurting her by going to hard.

What do you do?

>>24514904
Slowly work our way up to fucking her harder, so that we can figure out the limits without accidentally hurting her.

>>24514904
>"Harder..."
just a touch

>>24514904
Stop completely. Just leave Liz on the bed. I don't give a fuck.

>>24514904
Juuuust a bit.

>>24514932
You are the worst girlfriend ever.

>>24514904
Time to experiment a bit, eh? Slowly harder till we hit the sweet spot.

>>24514927
>>24514929
Seconded.

We don't want to overdo it, but we can bring it up a little.

>>24514932
:(

>>24514904
>"Harder..."
Unleash our full force, for just a moment.

>>24514904
We're done. If Fem's giving us the choice to continue or not, something's going down.

Selene's probably using the fangs this time. Do you wan't your daughters to kill eachother?

>>24514904
Slowly increase the tempo over a long period of time, and keep on increasing it, if she wants harder we'll do it faster and faster.

Though if it gets to the point where it's actually hurting her tone it down a notch.

>>24514963
You know, Femcock has done multi-part sex scenes before.

>>24514885
>>24514873
Neither of those things are clear to me as fact. Although I could well have missed Fem saying alchemy is a simple mass for mass exchange, in which case cool. What I'm fairly certain hasn't been stated is whether or not physical transmutation disrupts enchantment, as the collar seems to suggest this is not the case.

If indeed enchantments can last through transmutation, then that makes self operating kinetic impactor arrows possible, and that sounds really god damn cool.

>>24514957
Let's not turn her pelvis to dust, thanks.

>>24514904
DEATH BY SNUSNU.

CRUSH HER PELVIS

>>24514963
>Do you wan't your daughters to kill eachother?
At least then something would be happening.

>>24514979
There is absolutely no reason to make the arrows into foci. We can do that with our tattoos and then we won't risk losing them every single time we shoot.