>>24466070
>[ ] Talk to _____.
Souichibro-sama

threadly reminder that the updated Ebook can always be found at http://pastebin.com/kbGzcbDb, and I'll update it sometime tomorrow to include this thread, if it hasn't been deleted again.

I'm okay with yesterday cutting out, I was busy.

[x] Talk to Rin. "Why did you freak out when I gave you your jewel back? Is there a reason it wouldn't be one-of-a-kind?"

Because I was reading the e-book and all my paranoia sensors went off at once.

>>24466137
[x] Talk to Rin

We sorta already know we are sorta almost Archer.

But I still say we talk to Rin about Merlin while in a box

Thirding this
>>24466137
>>24466160
We need to talk to rin in general and let her know about merlin. Might need to smother her to keep her from shouting but she needs to know if for nothing else than writing it on our gravestone if Merlin gets us killed trying to get Arturia laid.

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>>24466070
>[X] Talk to Rin, in a box.

We need to have a super-secret conversation so we can tell her about Merlin and stuff, and there is only one way we know of to pull that off. THE BOX.

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>>24466207
>Merlin got me killed trying to get King Arthur laid.
Perfect.

Another for Souichirou. Make him a definite ally before his pragmatism wins over Caster and they go full evil on us

>>24466070
>[ ] Talk to Souichibro

We haven't really talked to him outside of strategy sessions since he woke up.

Reposting my hypothesis: the runes are teleporters.
>>24466070
[x] Talk to Rin about Merlin. In secret.

Guuuys, we can talk to Rin anytime (knock on wood), I'm really worried about losing an ally here

/whine

>>24466358
That's a fair point. I'll throw in a vote for talking to Souichirou, with the understanding that we need to have a word with Rin in the near future.

>>24466358
This, and I don't really want to talk about Merlin. At all.

>>24466358

Agreed.

[x] Shouchirou

Guys, I think talking to Rin about this is a bad idea.

Seriously. If Avenger is directly connected to us like we're pretty sure he is, he can probably bypass the box.

Remember how Liquid could just call Snake up at any time? Knew where he was, even in the box?

I think Avenger has a Direct CODEC line to our soul is what I'm saying. I vote we can full disclosure AFTER we know what the deal is there, because I'm not going to trust a cardboard box with everyone's lives.

>>24466207
swapping my vote to >>24466381

>>24466426
This guy gets it.
Unless we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the box can and will stop Avenger from listening in on us, we can't use it.

Plus, just because WE believe that the box will keep everything quiet, that doesn't mean whoever we bring in the box will believe as well. Avenger might not hear our side of the conversation, but if he hears Rin's part...

>>24466483

I liked how you turned that into Rin not believing enough might be the problem.

>>24466483
the box thing is just a semi-comical bit, in all seriousness it wont actually work

I have changed the direction of a single vote in a Quest. Clearly my future lies in world domination

>>24466575
or WILL it? We must test our box! For magiscience!

>>24466575

But it does. Servants don't seem to be able to detect us when we're in it.

Avenger might, though.

>>24466070
>I look at it, and then think back to the other ones. I try and mentally cross the lines in my head... and end up with roughly the same location Merlin gave me for where I was supposedly sleeping in the mountains. "... Weird."

Any chance that this thing is projecting a false "image" of us at the location in question? -- we still need to investigate that, by the way, don't we?

>>24466426
Seconding this.

>>24466209
Does Shirou know Rin as a TARDIS box? I thought this Shirou was ignorant of such things

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>>24466671
I was referring to our Tactical Espionage Box. That pic was simply related and humorous.

>>24466689
I thought te Tactical Espionage Box wasn't especially magical Shirou just lucked out that one time

>>24466426
I think this is what we're dealing with: Avenger can pop in and spy/scry on us, anytime. Big, scary implications, that.


What should we do:
>[X]Souichirou-sensei. Talk time.

He's impassive as all hell, and will ultimately remain loyal to Caster. But if we can convince him to hold off on making rash actions (especially with all the BS going on right now), it'll be one less problem to worry about.

>>24466551
Hey, if it's powered by belief, and we believe that it won't let Avenger find us (which probably does jack shit considering it's Avenger), then Rin thinking "He wants to talk to me inside a box because, for reasons he cannot explain until we get in the box, he thinks Avenger is spying on him 24/7 and the box is the only thing that can shield him from Avenger. Goddamnit, we broke Shirou." would be the thing to break it.

In other news, everyone else is going to think that we're THIS close to covering the box with tinfoil "to keep Avenger out" if we actually do this.

>>24466724
>implying shirou isn't trained in being snake.

>>24466731
We then counter with 'I was walking around here for an hour and only Saber managed to notice me.'

>>24466724
>I thought te Tactical Espionage Box wasn't especially magical Shirou just lucked out that one time

Its not the BOX thats magic really, its Shirou believing that the box will hide him, so it does. We've basically stumbled upon conditional Presence Concealment.

>>24466732
>trained in being snake.
So was Raiden. We all know how well THAT turned out. Fucking Rose. Bitch won't even use his codename in spite of being told to do so. Stupid bitch.

>Not sure what you guys are going for here.

>>24466852
Talk to Souichirou, try to convince him to convince Caster that allying with us is her best option.

>>24466852
[x] split into multiple copies and perform every conceivably possible action simultaneously.

>>24466852
Looks like Talk to Souichibro.

We seem to have become distracted by the metaphysics of the sneaking box.

>>24466852

Souichibro:
>>24466116
>>24466241
>>24466265
>>24466381
>>24466397
>>24466437
>>24466724

Rin:
>>24466137
>>24466160
>>24466209
>>24466269

>>24466852
They're being dumbfucks, like usual...

>>24466893
Whoops, ignore that first vote for Rin, that vote changed.

>>24466731
Maybe tinfoil /would/ help.

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>>24466895
I like posting this.

Not you you. Us you

>>24466946
No no no, copper mesh. Make it a Faraday Cage.

>>24466895
>>24466946
What if tonight we have everyone don our tinfoil covered boxes and snake up to the avenger camp and everyone nat 20's a roll to seduce on KinKaiser?

I go looking around for Souichiro-sama and find him watching the news.

Some small headline about a missing Elementary School girl plays across the screen before the news changes to something about an electrical fire down at the docks destroying a storage building.

Souichiro stares at the screen impassively like he's merely soaking up the information. His eyes move to me for a moment before returning to the news.

>What say/do?

>>24467021

>I paint a Cobain Rainbow down the nearest wall.

>>24466946
No no no, lead man, lead! That shit blocks EVERYTHING.
>>24467021
Bu-but I thought we were saving ourselves for TA first!

>>24467035
Sensei, you seem to be adjusting to this "magic" thing pretty well.

oh, and howdidyoumeetcasterdoyouhaveawish

>>24467035
>fire destroying storage building
Did we, uh, remember to turn the light off when we left?

>>24467043
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XviafbgY45M

>>24467075
I think that was Gil actually.

>>24467035
"Is there any way I can convince you to convince Caster that staying allied with me against Gilgamesh and Avenger is preferable to trying to win the Grai?"

>>24467043
I'm afraid I can't let you do that, AC-Guy.

>>24467035
>missing Elementary School girl
ExplainFurther.jpg

What sot of relevance could this be, I wonder?

>>24467061
I like this. The first part is a good icebreaker.

Then ease into tactical conversation. "How has Caster handled looking for a new base of operations? Does this progress well?"

It'll be awkward, but we can then ease into the third part.

This conversation is gonna be so awkward. Souichirou is such a rock sometimes.

>>24467035
>something about an electrical fire down at the docks destroying a storage building.
I can guess which one, can't I. (Or did we do that, and I've forgotten?)

>>24467035
"A fire at the storage warehouses? No... It can't be. Even I'm not that unlucky..."

"Err, anyway, how did you get mixed up with the War? You don't seem like a Magus, so I doubt you summoned Caster yourself, right?"

"You seem to be adjusting to this whole 'magic' thing well."

"It's not a lie. There are secrets and conspiracies everywhere, if I allowed myself to be shocked ever time I stumbled across at possible secret I would spend my entire life in dazed disbelief." He turns his head to look at me. "The news has become moderately more interesting though. Instead of questioning if a person who vanished was killed by a Vampire or something instead of the local organized crime syndicate adds a new dimension of speculation." He turns back to the T.V. "On the whole it's rather pointless knowledge though. Various magical factions apparently limit their interactions with and effects on the mundane world, so my life will largely continue unaffected."

"... I guess that's true. It's an interesting way of looking at it."

"Pointless speculation is only what the name implies: pointless."

There's a long silence between us as the news continues, mentions some art thing I can't bring myself to be interested in and commercials for some sort of coffee with an American actor dance across the screen as I try to figure out how to approach the more important topics. "Is there any way I could talk you into helping me convince Caster to stay allied?"

"I would probably be able to convince her if I spoke to her, but I have no reason to. She's the only one with an interest in the Grail, so she's the one who needs convincing."

"So that's a no?"

"I have no particular reason to approve or disapprove of such an alliance. Are you worried about one of the others here getting hurt?" He turns to me. "If that were the case it seems that you should be withdrawing. You were told of the fatal nature of the competition, yes?"

"I'm not here for the prize."

He frown, looking back to the news. "You're telling the truth, but your truth doesn't fit the facts."

"Because I wouldn't have been chosen if I didn't want something?"

He nods, looking back to the T.V.

>?

Just to check, we DID get all of the stuff out of that storage locker, right?

>>24467345
iirc we took guns, manuals, dosh, booms and a coat.

>For the record, Souichirou already said that he wasn't a mage, didn't summon Caster, had no wish, and wasn't chosen by the Grail.

>Just because people seem to be thinking/talking on that line.

>>24467345
Except some travel guides and currently-useless foreign currency, yes.

>>24467340
Ask him how he met Caster, if he wasn't the one who summoned her

>>24467373
I can barely remember last week, much less the previous threads. Where's our resident archive diver when you need him?

>>24467340
Let's call Raiga and check up on him and to confirm if the storage locker was accidentally the whole thing. Just in case.

Anyone got some theories on who would have even known our locker was there?

>>24467340
"We do have reason to believe that the system has been compromised. If that's the case then no rule about how the Grail War is supposed to function can be taken for granted. And then there's the fact that I want to save people. If I withdraw from the war I lose the ability to keep others from being affected by it."

I got it guys! BahSahKah contracted with Raiga through sheer force of will. In our darkest time of need he'll arrive to punish the evil doers with his honorable Yakuza might! All for the safety of Taiga

>>24467340
"I should apologize. I was teasing Caster inappropriately about your relationship. Though it seems Avenger agreed with my opinion"

>>24467340
"Honestly I think the point is moot; there's obviously something wrong with the whole Grail system and I really doubt anybody is going to end up getting their wish granted.
Anyway, how did you end up as Caster's Master?"

>>24467340
"Well, I won't lie, I do have an ulterior motive. One that I've been pursuing since I got sucked into the war."

>>24467340
>He frowns, looking back to the news. "You're telling the truth, but your truth doesn't fit the facts."
>"Because I wouldn't have been chosen if I didn't want something?"
>He nods, looking back to the T.V.
"Well, I feel like the more I think about it, the things I'm really interested in are things that I can attain without the grail... or I guess in spite of the grail, with how things seem to be going so far."

"...and you should probably talk to Caster a little more about what she's trying to get out of this whole grail war as well."

>>24467396
Seems like a thing we'd be interested in. Half small-talk, half relevant Servant system mechanical data.

>>24467340
>American actors in coffee commercials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9CoqIVXCUU

>>24467340
Ask Souichirou if there is anything at all in the world he desires. "Is there really anything at all you feel is worth caring about?"

I want to provoke him a bit. Talk about someone killing off Caster to get us one step further towards Grail Completion. While he can tell if we'e bluffing (stupid goddamn lie detector senses), asking him to seriously consider a future without Caster is a question he can't walk away from.

He's in denial, too, about what he wants.

(Plus, knowing Laws of Narrative Causality, she'll walk right on in just as he says something like "I cannot bear such a future." :3 )

>>24467340

"Why bother fighting then? I would have thought you'd rather lie low, if you don't wish to involve yourself and have no desire for a wish.

Is it for Caster's sake? Did you ever think to ask her what she would want? Or will you just keep on doing a hands-off approach?"

A little too direct, but the gist of this with a bit more subtlety.

>>24467340
"I don't really need the Grail to get what I want anymore. All I really want is to protect people, and since the War started I've become at least mildly competent at it. Granted, an omnipotent wish-granting device that smells of roses and is filled with happy bunnies and kittens would be very convenient, but the more I learn about the Grail the more I'm convinced that its nothing like that."

"But how about you? You say you don't have a Wish, but most people wouldn't dive headfirst into a war just because someone asked them nicely. Whats the deal with you and Caster?"

>>24467340

seconding these :
>>24467396
>>24467433
>>24467485

Forcing him to consider what losing caster would mean is good, asking how they met is good and pointing out that something is seriously wrong with how things are 'normally' is good. I also recommend pushing his buttons a bit on what he thinks caster wants out of the war.

Cause if all she wants is to shack up and travel the world - we've got a storeroom with all sorts of foreign currency to send them on a honeymoon with.

In fact I recommend having rider do a heart-to-heart with caster if at all possible, as they were both characters of greek myth and both got the short end of the stick pretty badly.

>>24467664
Hopping on the SouichiBro Good End train

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>>24467664
Make them girltalk about being princess carried.

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>>24467664
I kind of wondered how Rider and Caster would get on. They're both victims of asshole guys who fucked them over (quite literally) and who're forced to become monsters by their society's values. I thought the two would see eye-to-eye quite easily, but AFAIK they never had that kind of rapport in canon FSN or its sequels.

>Cause if all she wants is to shack up and travel the world
There is the whole "can't be sustained without a Grail after a week" thing. Shit, maybe we should get Rin to figure out how to bind Servants into more permanent forms. Ah well, one thing at a time.

>I also recommend pushing his buttons a bit on what he thinks caster wants out of the war.
Will more NPCs share their backstory with us if we get more trust points? because Souichirou's lack of a center is kind of similar to Shirou's, isn't it?

Plus, Caster-as-redeemed-villain is something which might seriously challenge Shirou's morals. I always wondered what would happen if a dyed-in-wool idealist like Shirou ever had to relive the memories of an anit-hero like Caster. Ideals only have value when tested, right?

"... I do have something of an ulterior motive, but it's nothing I need the Grail for. Plus it's not a goal I had coming into this." I hesitate. "I guess I just want to protect people. I mean, if I had a free wish on the Grail I'd think of something worth spending it on. The way things look though, it's not really worth getting my hopes up if it's unusable."

"A fair assessment." He looks at me. "I think I can guess at your 'ulterior' motive."

"And?"

"Not my place to comment. I may be forced to talk with someone who's place it is though."

".... Fair enough. So why are you involved in this war anyway?"

"I'm not really. I'm just providing something of an anchor for Caster."

"That kinda makes you a target to anybody who knows about that. I mean, getting involved in something absurdly dangerous like this just because someone asked...."

"You mean like you did? To a much greater degree than myself?"

"Well yeah, but I'm dumb and reckless like that."

"I grade your tests. You're the third smartest student in your grade."

"Booksmart doesn't mean I have a survival instinct." I frown slightly. "Is this an uncomfortable topic for you?"

"Not particularly. I simply chose to help Caster because she needed it and asked for it."

"And what happens if she goes away?"

"Then my life goes back to what it was before I met her." He answers, not looking away from the screen. "As it's going to once this war is over anyway."

".... Really?"

"Yes. If Caster's not going to be in my life, then any alterations she made to it would vanish as well."

".... what if she stayed?"

"Pointless speculation. She's only here because of the Grail, the Grail is going to come and go in the near future."

"There's true incarnation...."

"There is that, but I doubt she would waste her wish on something so asinine."

>?

>>24467777
>There is the whole "can't be sustained without a Grail after a week" thing.

There was that "Caster's Vampire Wand plan" someone thought up, but since the vamp is dead...

>>24467822
"You know she's in love with you, right?"

>>24467822

>"There is that, but I doubt she would waste her wish on something so asinine."

"Did you ask her this yourself or is this just 'pointless speculation?'"

Words right back at him.

>>24467875

God. This.

>>24467822
"YOU FOOL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHE WANTS TO WISH FOR SOUICHIRO. SHE'S IN LOVE WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE THE MOST UNCONDITIONALLY NICE MAN SHE HAS EVER MET."

"Seriously, look at who she *is*, she got screwed over by her role in myth and history and she more or less only existed as a reward for 'hero's', and when she's given a chance to form her own wish what do you think it's going to be - short sweet and simple she's going to want to shack up with the only nice guy who's shown her an ounce of goodwill and kindness with no benefit to himself. Hell we can even ask her what her wish would be - I'm pretty sure rin can concoct a gaes so that she cannot lie about it either".

>>24467822
Do you know how you recovered from your coma? I think it's a hint at Caster's wish

>>24467822
"Wishing to stay with the person you love is asinine?"

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>>24467822
"Dyo ho ho. But what if "somebodies" wish is true incarnation for a rather large list of servants? Perhaps worded as a, My wish is for true incarnation for the surviving servants.? That is once we figure it if its a sentient hate machine or how to fix it if it can be. Ouch. kind of a mood killer."

>/r/ing succubus Ilya. I misplaced mine

>>24467822
"You might want to talk to Caster about that yourself, and see what she really wants the grail for."

Let them talk it out, don't explain it, just leave them be, let them talk it out, and let's try to not go full retard in the process by saying the wrong thing at the wrong time to them.

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>>24467738
I think I just bust my nutbladder

>>24467875
10/10, would snark again. Put me down for this answer. Pepper it with this >>24467913
as necessary. Wait for him to pop off a response (if he has one), then crown it with this >>24467872 and this >>24467905

I wanna see if Souichibro has a facial expression other than 'dour'

>>24467822
"Have you asked her what her wish is? It might not make sense to us living people, but for someone who's already dead getting a do-over at life, complete with the chance to ditch the baggage from your previous life, might be a damn enticing prospect."

"Speaking of which... when you were taking your curse-induced beauty sleep she pretty much spent 24/7 looking after you and trying to fix it, even going to far as to stay here in a house filled with potential enemies, because it was the only place where you would be safe. Which struck me as odd at first, since the typical "evil amoral wizard bent on world domination" would have just ditched you and gotten a new Master when you became a hindrance."

(Souichibro-sensei... don't tell me you're going FULL SHIROU here. Please god, don't be dense like us.)

>>24467956
The doujins i've found of rider prettymuch fall into 2 categories - her being a bondage princess... or her being a princess princess (with huge fantasies about being princess carried!)

>>24467875
This.

changing mine from >>24467921 to >>24467958. Nailed out response.

>>24467875
>>24467977
bit of both

>>24467822
> If Caster's not going to be in my life, then any alterations she made to it would vanish as well."
We should probably point out to him that he posed this as "IF Caster's not going to be in my life, rather than "WHEN Caster's no longer in my life."

Unless this is just an AC-Guy word choice peculiarity, the fact that he's referring to Caster's departure as a non-definite thing is at least a little telling.

>>24467990
None of her being an elegant and sophisticated librarian?

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My god... Shirou is having to explain shit like this to someone.

SHIROU is explaining RELATIONSHIP STUFF.

We've well and truly gone off the deep end guys.

>>24468026
Surprisingly no, though the princess ones did usually have her reading something and ignoring shirou until PRINCESS CARRY

>>24468037
I mean, Shirou has at least 4 gears: Cook, Sword, Snark and You Lost Me.

Souichirou is stuck with just Serious and Fist. The guy's as straight a straight man as they come.

>>24468037
we went well and truely off the deep end as soon as we found out we may or may not be human.

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>>24467947

>>24468026
Not him but I haven't found any. You could try the Ronpaia stuff but it's more of a side thing. Better than most anyway. Has glorious rider/ayako subtext too
http://g.e-hentai.org/?f_doujinshi=1&f_manga=1&f_artistcg=1&f_gamecg=1&f_western=1&f_non-h=1&f_imageset=1&f_cosplay=1&f_asianporn=1&f_misc=1&f_search=group%3Aronpaia+eng&f_apply=Apply+Filter

>>24468098
...
Source?

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>>24468037
I was just going to post this pic, but I think it also applies to the last 20, 25 or so threads at least.

>>24468158
http://g.e-hentai.org/?f_doujinshi=0&f_manga=0&f_artistcg=0&f_gamecg=0&f_western=0&f_non-h=0&f_imageset=0&f_cosplay=0&f_asianporn=0&f_misc=0&f_search=group%3Ajishou+seijunha+eng&f_apply=Apply+Filter

I want to tease poor zero saber more and a very pitiful zero saber grows timid.

Platonic magician and Lancer and Kirei's date are pretty funny too.

Have we ever pointed out that our initial wish could've been to avoid the slaughter that happened ten years ago? I mean to keep such a thing from happening again not to undo the previous one.

>>24467990
>her being a bondage princess...
HNNNNNNG
>her being a princess princess (with huge fantasies about being princess carried!)
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

Rider as a class librarian would be just too much for my poor heart to handle.

Was Rider's characterization as a bibliophile/alcohol lover Hollow Ataraxia material? I've not encountered it in most of my readings travels in Nasu-fan-land.

>>24467977
Lie I said, Souichirou is surprisgly in denial about what he wants. Funny, how most male characters in Fate lack such a coherent sense of self. Souichirou needs a good prod, guys!

Also, in planning our next move- after we save Souichirou;;s relationship, what should we do next? Share the dirty secret about Avenger with Rin? Scout out Avenger's base camp? Somethring else?

>>24468243
We don't really need the Grail for that. In fact, attempting to acquire he Grail would likely lead straight towards that kind of destruction.

>>24468247
Yeah her room is a library in F/HA. Not sure bout the booze though. That part wasn't translated when I went through it

>>24468247
>what should we do next?

Well, we know that Avenger can spy on us with impunity, but he doesn't know we know. I'm thinking a little information warfare might not be a bad idea, although how exactly to do this without horribly confusing our allies as well is another matter.

>>24468247
Princess carry rider.

>>24468310
Initial as in why we were picked by the grail. We've now changed our priorities but we could've been subconciously wishing to wish for that to never happen agai- We were wishing to save people -> Saving people requires something to save them from -> We just went full rejoice.

Goddamit did we all forget the most basic and obcious thing at the start of the novel?
Kotomines origional speech in the church

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>>24468247
>>24468322
Don't go into shock when I tell you guys this, but it's now 94.5% translated
>mfw

>>24468387
So...
Close...
I sure am glad I only found out about it recently.
I'm still disappointed that Unlimited Codes was removed from the PSN

>>24468387
You lie! That is not possible!

>>24468387
W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-WHAT?

I never thought I'd see the day.

>>24468387
I see your last week and raise you 95% today. They've been booking since they hit 90

>>24468387
A-Are all existing copies going to spontaneously self-destruct at 97%?

>>24468387
Welp time to dust off the blood sacrifice knife.

>>24468404
>>24468417
http://vntls.tindabox.net/project/fha/
Of course, it's still about 65.3ish% verified, but no one talks about that number when discussing the F/HA translation

>>24468449
Yeah if anyone wanted to help them/read the out of context translations
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Fate/Hollow_Ataraxia

"Did you ask her yourself, or is this just pointless speculation?"

He frowns slightly, looking at me. "I don't follow."

"Clearly. God, this must be what talking to me is like." I sigh, shaking my head. "First of all, a lot of heroes didn't live happy fun lives. It's not inconceivable that one could want to have a normal life instead of one filled with violence and such. In fact, the Odyssey is basically that: a guy trying to stop adventuring and go home."

"Alright but that would also assume she had a reason to stay or assume things would be better now." He hesitates, looking at me more.... studiously. "You've developed a rather nasty twitch there."

"That's- Listen. You know the sleeping beauty story, right?"

"Vaguely." He responds. "Something about a needle and a Prince."

"Yeah. Well apparently Avenger can do curse stuff like I do swords or something, and he basically put that curse on you."

"..... And I was cured."

"YES."

"..... So where did a prince-"

"Not a Prince, love. Love was the key here." I hesitate. "Though I suppose Caster could also be some sort of Princess or something. I'm not entirely sure who she is."

Souichiro stares at me, and then back to the TV contemplative. "You think Caster may have developed feelings for me?" He pauses, deep in thought as he watches the news. "Well, it would certainly explain some things. I'll need to look into it."

".... That's it?"

"You expected something else?"

"Somewhat more of a reaction maybe."

"Even if I deemed it a fact worth celebrating, I need to confirm it before I go skipping down the hall in joy."

".... Why would you even think of doing that?"

"Because that seems to happen every time someone develops feelings for someone else at the school. Even the Teachers."

>?

>>24468545
It's never happened to you?

>>24468545
"Stick to being yourself, as plain-faced as that may be. You skipping down the hallway might have catastrophic reactions from those among us with a low tolerance for the strange and unnatural."

>>24468545
>Even the Teachers.
"This I have to hear."

>>24468545
I think we might need to apologise to each of the girls. We might end up having an aneurism here.

"More importantly how would you react if it turns out I'm right?"

>>24468545
>Even the Teachers.

EXPLAIN FURTHER.

But no, seriously this is good progress, and if it turns out to be the case let us know when the wedding is... and we can try to work on some sort of solution to the grail becoming sentient hatefuckeverything.

Moving forward we have lunch with bazette and lancer dont we?

>>24468545
>Saber's still getting over stealth shirou
>Remnants of her fragile mind shatters as she sees Souichibro gaily skipping down the hall
>Huddles in the corner with ricecooker-san. The only sane person left in her life

>>24468545
>Even the Teachers
Sigh. "Does that include Taiga whenever she thinks about my cooking?"

>>24468545
"If it turns out she DOES want to hang around, you should probably talk to Rin and Ilya about it. They know more about crazy wizard shit than me."
Speaking of Ilya and wizards, Shirou doesn't actually know that Ilya's dying at this point, does he? And Merlin seemed to react in a rather unusual manner when we brought her up with him. One more for The Box?

>>24468605
>>24468620
I can imagine another high spirited person, but I guess Taiga has had a boyfriend or two

>>24468659

For a day or two. Raiga has canonically had people get the fuck beaten out of them for hitting on her.

>>24468659
>I guess Taiga has had a boyfriend or two
You guess wrong. Taiga is full-blown Christmas Cake at this point.

>>24468545
>It's never happened to you?
This is a great thing to ask Souichiro. Teasing out backstory is a Good Thing. Ah, the Fate series does wonderful things for my love of delicious tormented personalities!>>24468545
>"Because that seems to happen every time someone develops feelings for someone else at the school. Even the Teachers."

"Go on..."

>>24468651
Shirou knows Illya could suffer serious complications from Being The Grail. His "save the girl" instincts flared last thread when it got mentioned, IIRC.

>>24468629
This mental image shall accompany me gloriously to sleep. Thank you, kind anon!

>>24468651
Merlin explained that she's dying that's one of the reasons we wanted to get to Zouken before he get's killed off for real this time.

>>24468659
Taiga's only boyfriend is Tora-Shinai.

>>24468545
*Facepalm*

"As long as you're aware of it, then that's fine."

Let's go talk to someone Less dense oh god.

>>24468545
>"Explain further" "NO YOU EXPLAIN FURTHER 'BRO'" "NO YOU EXPLAIN FURTHER 'BRO'"

A yelling match between souichiro and shirou would be a scary thing to see.

>>24468703
>Souchirou sees Taiga skipping down the hall.
>"Why are you skipping down the hall, Taiga?"
>"The love of my life just came home!"
>She got Torashinai back from the repair shop or whatever last night
>"Well okay then."

>>24468629
Another thing to ask a drawfag to make, along with Saber noticing Shirou Solid Snaking his way through the house.

>>24468651
We know. That's why we mentioned to him if he knew someway to help. He was confused, magiced what we were talking about,then went on a rant about Acht

>>24468545
"Well now that you're aware, make sure you both know exactly where you stand on the issue. I may have... neglected to deal with a similar situation or three and I'm paying the price for it. I rest easy knowing that at least you'll be able to avoid my lamentable fate."

"Now, whats this about teachers skipping down the halls at school?"

>>24468794
Seconding this. Eloquent anon is going to carry us to the promise land

>>24468794

This'll do.

>>24468794
>"Well now that you're aware, make sure you both know exactly where you stand on the issue. I may have... neglected to deal with a similar situation or three and I'm paying the price for it. I rest easy knowing that at least you'll be able to avoid my lamentable fate."
...We're going to go to Rin as soon as we're done with this conversation and apologize. Both for trolling her and her feelings, and for being this dense. We say "I just saw what our relationship looks like from the outside and realized you deserved better."

"Well now that you're aware, you can take steps and find out where you both stand on the issue. I may have.... neglected similar circumstances. Multiple times in fact. It would be nice to know that one of us can avoid that mess."

"Indeed. That would explain why your actions around the various women running around seem so... measured."

"Yeah. Now, what's this about teachers skipping down the halls at school?"

"I've only seen it a few times. Taiga used to do it a lot, but stopped a few years ago. Apparently one of the science teaches is getting married fairly soon and his Fiance did it after dropping off some kind of paperwork. Mostly it's girls your age." He hesitates. "Though i did see Issei doing it once. He denied anything romantic, but I'm fairly certain he was lying about that."

>?

>Sorry about the delay there.

>>24468979
Lunch with bazette (i still dont think we've done that)

>>24468979
"Well that's nice. Excuse me I need to go do something manly."

Work on that bike. It's been far too long.

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>>24468979

>A few years ago.
>Taiga's single.
>Kerry only died five years ago.
>Taiga loved him and didn't marry.

RIGHT IN THE EMOTIONS!

>>24468979
"Well anyway, let me know how that turns out. I've got to go clean up a long-standing mess I wasn't even aware I had made, later."

Over to Rin.

"HOLY SHIT RIN I AM SO SORRY, you are a goddess, please don't murder me."

>>24468990

>You still have time.

>>24469016

>..... Is that the image you meant to post?

>>24468967
Seconding this

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>>24469032

NOPE!

>>24468979
>>24468990
>>24469032
Ah, work on the bike then.

>>24468993
the bike is merely in need of the timing chain isn't it?

>>24469054
Make sure we get Rider if we're going to do this.
GOTTA GET DEM POINTS

>>24469068
I'm sure Saber might be interested too

>>24469072
Did people still want to mention Merlin to Rin or no?

>>24469032
FWIW I think the image works perfectly. It's a metaphor, see.

>>24469054
>>24469068
No bike, we're missing a part. Wait until it comes in.

>>24468979
We're going to talk with Rin. First, apologies, second the jewel, third Sakura's nightmares.

>>24469082
I'm pretty sure we're avoiding that until we can be sure avenger isn't spying on us

>>24469065
And haven't we already ordered it?

>>24468979
Ok... time to beg Rin for forgiveness. This conversation was like looking in a mirror at the end of the day, and realizing you forgot to shave half you face or something equally obvious and embarrassing.

>>24468449
So am I supposed to pirate F/HA cause it's listed on amazon jp as
Shipping: We're sorry; this item can not be shipped outside Japan
and I don't know diddly about those redirecter shipping guys. Why do they gotta make it so hard to buy legit!?

There is still that thing with zouken and/or getting assassin as an extra servant.

Seeing that his original goal was to see the grail in its complete form, he might offer us info so as not to let a corrupted one form.

Failing that, promising to look after his descendants might work.

>>24469274
It's Zouken.... Go watch Fate/Zero and tell me the man gives a fuck about his descendants

I get up and walk away. I wander across the house towards Rin's room, and when I arrive she's opening the door and surprised to see me. "Shirou? Did you want to talk about some-"

I place one hand on either shoulder, looking her in the eyes. She seems startled, but doesn't flinch away. "I'm so sorry."

".... About what?"

"I just found out what talking to me is like. I had no idea I could be that frustrating."

Rin's gaze turns level and angry. "Yes you did. You've done it multiple times on purpose. To me."

"And for that I'm sorry, having been on the receiving end of it just now."

"Are you really?" She asks, hands on her hips as she shrugs off my arms. "I find it hard to believe that one conversation was enough to have a through change of heart."

"It was exactly bad enough to trigger my low threshold for guilt." I respond. "Seriously. I dropped everything to apologize to you. I think I'm probably going to have to apologize to Saber and Rider in the near future."

She frowns slightly, looking at me. "... You actually do mean it, don't you?" She sighs. "Honestly, it's kinda irritating. i can't really complain that much about teasing without coming off as a massive hypocrite." She laughs slightly at the thought. "Sorry. Tell you what, you stop pestering me and I'll do the same for you."

[ ] I'll try to tone it down.
[ ] I'll consider the offer.
[ ] Too late. You laughed. I'm off the hook.

>>24469274
>Implying Zouken gives two shits about his descendants

>>24469201
No of course not, that would be immoraYES

>>24469333
>[ ] I'll try to tone it down
We are full of lies

>>24469333
>[ ] Too late. You laughed. I'm off the hook.

Come on, now. We can't NOT snark.

>>24469333
>[X] Too late. You laughed. I'm off the hook.
I am the snark of my body...

>>24469333
Too late AHAHAHAHAAHAHA.

>>24469333
>[x] Too late. You laughed. I'm off the hook.

Then serious up and give her a kiss.

Rolled 17

>>24469333
>[X] I'll try to tone it down.

>>24469333
>[x] Too late. You laughed. I'm off the hook.

>>24469333
>[X] I'll try to tone it down.
Try working in something that makes her realize we don't mind her teasing us all THAT much, though. It's part of her charm.

>>24469333
>[X] I'll try to tone it down.

"But for the record, it isn't entirely my fault. I can't help it that all the women around me are super cute when they're pouting. Its just too tempting sometimes."

>>24469368
>Then serious up and give her a kiss.
Is today the day that we kiss all the love interests?

That's actually not a bad plan.

>>24469333
"Do you want me to? I can, but I think I'd miss it--teasing and being teased in return. It's nice, I think."

"Too late, you laughed and I'm off the hook." I respond with a healthy measure of cheer as I turn and walk away.

I make it a full three steps before ducking and allowing the textbook to fly past where my head was a moment before. Looking back over my shoulder I give Rin a startled 'what was that for' look while she fumes, cheeks puffed and agitated.

She shuts the door of her room with not quite enough force to be considered a 'slam'.

[ ] Go talk to ____.
[ ] Go to ____.
[ ] Return the book.

>>24469445
Maybe not return the book, but leave it laying up against her door so it falls inward the next time she goes to leave.
Go talk to rider, if we can get the part for the bike before it's time for lunch.

>>24469445
>[X] Return the book.
We're a Gentlemen are we not? She might need that book.

>>24469445
Return kebook.

>>24469445
>[ ] Return the book.

Operation: Kiss the Love Interests, GO GO GO

>>24469445
>One minute too late.
Story of my life.

We need to talk to Sakura. Get a piece of scratch paper and write a note with the message I just wrote, return it with a kiss, and then lets go talk to the mortal half of team purple.

>>24469463
>>24469464
Reinforce it first.

>>24469415
And then Saber breaks our spine in a huff. It's cool though, those grow back

>>24469333
[X]... But I enjoy it when you tease me?

Granted, we do often act stupid to our advantage (and everyone else's chagrin) - but Rin's one of the few worthy opponents to match wits with Shirou. So tell her it's never been about insulting, lying, or embarrassing her, but rather an uphill verbal sparring match, as we recognize and value her intelligence.

>>24469455
Anyone remember what thread # we were on when we got the time for our part arrivals?

>>24469445
Return the book. Give an apologetic hug and kiss, she can't stay mad at us like that.

>>24469471
>>24469512

>Giving Rin a kiss

Eh... in due time. I don't feel right kissing Rin when I'm rooting for Harem End. Or Sisters end at worst.

>>24469542
We already kissed her once, I think. And we definitely kissed Rider this morning.

>>24469542
We already did Rider. Now I'm rooting for a full set.

>>24469542
We already nearly sexed Rider. Sexed her hard

>>24469571
No, rider almost sexed us.

>>24469585
Sexed us hard.

>>24469571
>>24469585
>>24469610
The next time Shirou has alone time with her, he's going to tell her in no uncertain terms that he's going to fuck her so hard whoever pulls him out is going to be the one true king of England. Which, considering Saber is the only person not involved capable of moving him... Means we should invite her. Servant 3P?

>>24469610
>Riders riding skill is A+
Oh god, if shirou *never* gets to do it again he will still remember it for all his life.

Is there a male version of ahegao?

>>24469630
It's a little crude but rider's sides are going to launch into orbit as soon as she hears that.

>>24469630
>only inviting saber and rider
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-H-KJRYbw

>>24469643
I think never getting to do it again would increase the chances of him remembering it.

>>24469445
Returning the book is winning and someone wants "Do you want me to? I can, but I think I'd miss it--teasing and being teased in return. It's nice, I think." tacked on.

I calmly pick up the book and knock on the door, Rin opening it clearly still flustered. "You dropped this. At my face."

She looks at the book and takes it back, mumbling something that sounds like a 'thanks' and a 'sorry' at the same time. I smile and take her hand.

"I could tone it down a little. Just a little. Honestly, we need a source of stress relief somewhere. Might as well be my head."

"That's not a particularly sane attitude."

"It's not like I have anything particularly compelling going on up here." I respond, gesturing loosely to my forehead, and Rin cracks a smile. I open my mouth and she cuts me off.

"You make that joke again, I'm going to beat you with the book."

"Fair enough." I respond with a shrug as she sets the book down. I look past her into the room and see that it's... something of a mess. "What-"

"I've been busy. Reading books and researching things that might help us." She sighs. "I'm starting to worry about not getting enough sleep with everything that's going on."

"Luckily, I've never had a healthy sleep schedule so that isn't a concern." I tell her as I step into the room. She frowns in my direction.

"Do you ever say anything positive about yourself?"

"I don't like bragging, though I'm apparently too handsome for my own good. Which is strange and terrifying."

Rin's expression goes to the same irritated level gaze she has whenever I say.... anything, really. I get the feeling that her irritation isn't completely serious though.

>?

>>24469729
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXmLRHnoSAs

Kiss the girl.

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>>24469729
Give her the kiss

I have a suggestion.

>Sweep her off her feet dramatically.
>hold her in one arm, so that she's practically laying down on our arm.
>Make sure she's positioned over her bed.
>Act like we're going in slow for the kiss.
>She gets flustered.
>Asks about t5he other girls.
>We go 'oh, right. My bad.'
>Drop her.
>She falls like a foot onto her bed.
>We act like we're going to just walk off and forget about what happened.
>She rapes us.
>we don't resist
>Plausible deniability.

>>24469729
Didn't we have plans? Like talking about her sister's nightmare? Ah well, smooching time. I'll see how terribly this went in the morning

>>24469778
I can imagine this happening, and it much too humorous

>>24469783
All in good time friend. All in good time.

For now, we must maintain our laser-like focus on something that is both ill advised and unnecessary.

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>>24469729
Turn her around and start giving her a shoulder rub. Once she starts being less flustered lets offer to give her a full back and footrub and wake her up in a few hours. If she protests we tell her that it'll be no good to be exhausted if something really serious comes up. Once we're done we gotta to talk to team purple.

That was a mgnificent nightmare btw AC-Guy. All dose feels

>>24469783
We can talk about her sisters nightmares with her sister... where we kiss her too.

And in that time i'll conceive/concoct an ill-fated reason for us to kiss saber too.

>>24469778
I like the cut of your jib, but now is not the time for giving Rin the D. We have a lunch-date soon.

Give Rin a smooch and then go see Sakura. Her and Saber need some Shirou-time today.

>>24469729
"Rin... I haven't told you this before, but i appreciate all the hard work you do"

>>24469729

If she's reading up to figure out those runes, ask if she'll need a sounding board/dumb guy opinion that will make her go "That's impossible!" then kick reasons for said impossibility in the curb.

This will all just be an icebreaker for more romancing.

>>24467411
Usually asleep whenever these threads start...

>>24467421
Our storage locker was completely empty bar some useless paper. We took everything that wasn't nailed down. Even specifically telling Archer that since he was in the container, he could either pick up a bag and help, or he was going in the bag.

>>24469761
>>24469773
Come on guys, we're only on Verse 37. We have plenty of time for making out later.
More importantly, let's compliment her on something that flusters her, then go do something useful before lunch.

Wow. It's like the average intelligence quotient drops by 100 points the minute players assume they have the 'harem ending' in the bag.

>>24469729
Inform Rin of Sakura's recurring nightmares.
Ask Rin if she's uncovered anything useful with her research.
Ask rin if she knows of anything that might keep a Servant from making a Contract with a Master who still has Command Spells.
Hell - ask Rin to check Shirou's Command Spells and make sure they're there / real. (Avenger might have 'taken' them)

>>24469834
and chronologically canon shirou has had 3 more kinky sex scenes than ours

>>24469834
which is why the backrub is a good idea. Add in >>24469818 and we're golden. Poor girls been overworking herself for too long and we shant stand it no more!

>>24469801
And yet, is there even one of us who doesn't want this to happen?

>>24469803
You're a classy gentleman. Agreeing to this, even if your pic is a theoretical impossibility. Shirou is dense, and dense=Shirou.

>>24469848
>Inform Rin of Sakura's recurring nightmares.
This doesn't sound like a good idea.
We don't know anything about the dream from Sakura yet. Rider trusted us with the knowledge. Sakura doesn't know we know. Telling her sister doesn't feel like a smart way to gain trust and romance.

We wait for Rider to have a talk, then we act from there.

>>24469729
For now, I think I'm siding with the back rub idea while thanking her for her effort.

did ac-guy died?

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>>24470047
It's a big scene. Give him time

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>>24470047
He's probably just agonizing over making some sense out of our fucktarded plans.

Hopefully.

>>24470047
Too bad, you broke your streak.

>>24470081
it wasnt my streak

Gotta love tension build up.

>>24470120
Gotta love surprise Mooch

>>24470120
Or writer falling asleep at keyboard

>>24470128
AC-guy doesn't sleep.

Alot like me.

However we have different reasons.

Mine is a mix between dealing with a baby T-rex and its pet rooster, and SCIENCE.
Or could those both be the same thing....

>>24470124
I just want you to remember...Im always watching....Quietly...waiting to comment...When im least expected..

Its a job.
It pays well.
You should into it.
Has excellent dental.

>>24470150
You want me to remember? I know where you Science!

"Don't look at me like that, it makes me feel uncomfortable."

"Oh?" She says, turning more towards me. "I only get upset with you when you do something stupid."

"That's why it makes me uncomfortable. Please stop before I do something to earn it."

She smiles, a little too sweetly. "Oh? Like what?"

Instead of saying word, and hook one hand around her waist and spin her around while she lets out a surprised 'meep'. I lower her, cradling her with one arm and slowly brushing my other hand along her cheek. She blushes heavily. "Is something wrong?" I ask, concerned.

"I... this is- Shirou?" She looks at me, seemingly terrified. I wonder if I've gone just a little too far this time. ".... Should we be doing something like this? I mean.... I thought you were trying not to do something to hurt people-"

"Yeah." I sigh. "You're right." I drop her on her bed, and she squeaks again before she hits the bed. "I should go. Maybe I'll see how Saber's doing-" I reach for the doorknob when a hand firmly grips my shoulder and yanks me off balance back onto the bed.

"No. I get one for that." Rin says simply, darting in and giving me one tiny peck on the lips before smiling triumphantly.

I hear myself say it before I realize what I'm doing. "If you're going to do that, you might as well make it worth it." She looks at me confused for a moment before I grab her around her waist and pull her lips into mine. for several seconds we stay there locked before I let her go and she slowly raises herself off of me.

Rin looks down at me with a measure of surprise and something I don't remember seeing on her face before. It's... desire? No, that's not right. Not hunger but something else..... I can't place it. Finally she speaks. "... That was...."

"... Yeah...."

".... You should go." She sighs, rolling off of me. "It's not fair of either of us to be teasing like that if we can't-" She looks away. "Sorry."

"No, it's alright. I understand."

She smiles, face still red as I walk away.

>?

>>24470172
visit SEIBAH

>>24470171
>Gasp
You know where I science?

.....ah crap there went like 115 years of my life keeping that secret....Shit...
Now I gotta start over....

Damnit..

>>24470172
New plans for dinnertime: initiate Operation Tenchi Muyo. It's time we sit all the girls down and work out the details of polygamy. Or at least polyamory.

>>24470172
Oh gods, what?

Well, I suppose we have to go make out with everyone else now, just to keep it even.
I vote Saber next.

>>24470208
How about talking to Illya, Saber and Ride for some support?
It's got to have two wingwomen and one harem member for the initiation of the plan.

>>24470208
Whoa there buddy, remember, we can't be the one to pitch the idea. That way lies everyone (but Rider) screaming PERVERT and slapping our shit. Gotta be subtle about it.

Also, we still need to do some significant work with Sakura I think.

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>>24470172
AC-Guy, why you do this? Every time you ask 'What Do' it become pic relate!

>¿

Prepare the Lunch - For maximum negotiate!

>>24470172
Sakura needs a cheeringup.

Maybe no kisses yet, but soon.

>>24470231
On the other hand, if we aren't open with the fact that we like everyone and we definitely do NOT want to hurt any of them, then once they find out that we kissed them all and you KNOW we're going to kiss them all before the end of the day then they'll be PISSED. Inverted Social Link pissed.

>>24470172
Alright, enough playing around for one day. Lets go see what Sakura is up to.

I appreciate everyone's zeal for Seibah, but last time we put her in an awkward situation she BROKE OUR DAMN SPINE.

>>24470172
Time to go find Rider and see if she's talked to Sakura about the nightmare yet. We need to get to it before it bites us in the ass.

>>24470231
Yeah. Sakura is going to be a mountain of work

>Go visit Sakura & Rider
Sakura and Saber need some Emiya-lovin' today, and Sakura is the most case.

Sakura feels like she's useless. And, to be honest, the way we're doing stuff in this quest, she kinda is.

How can we make her a useful and contributing member of the group?

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>>24470172
Hnnnnnng

>>24470267
>but last time we put her in an awkward situation she BROKE OUR DAMN SPINE.
Totally worth it

>>24470298
Teach her worm magic.

>>24470298
Can someone who's played heaven's feel info dump sakura's capabilities?

>>24470310
Spooky Magicks

>>24470310
She's an imitation Lesser Grail (what Ilya is) and she can eat and corrupt Servants once she gets hooked up to Angry Manjew. Also she has access to near infinite prana.

Unfortunately, she's only the imitation Grai-

GUYS.
GUYS.

Ilya didn't feel Berserker go into her because he went into Sakura.

>>24470310
Sakura really doesn't have much in the way of magical capabilities at least until she starts channeling Angry Manjew and goes full yandere. I mean, she's got the circuits, but ask her to blast something with magic and she won't know what the fuck to do. Hence Rin's tutoring.

I vote we put her in charge of maintaining Harem morale and discipline. This is a necessary duty, and we won't have the time between fighting stuff and fucking bitches.

>>24470328

Even after we removed the worms?

I thought doing that would remove her ability to function as a lesser grail.

>>24470328
But wasn't sakura made a lesser grail from thegrailgoo/fragment imbued worms? How did that diddly work?

>>24470344
She got most of the worms removed in Heaven's Feel, too, apart from the worm near her heart that was Zouken's plylactery-worm.

>>24470328
If she was an active Lesser Grail, she should have been having spooky Grail dreams and the Shadow would be running around eating things by now.

>>24470362
I don't remember Sakura having Shadow dreams until two Servants died, Lancer and Caster. We're only down one.

>>24470362

The twon IS losing folks at night...

>>24470376
She killed Lancer as the shadow though

>>24470362
how many servants were down when she started having them in heaven's feel?

>So paranoid ramblings aside, what's winning?

>>24470414
Sakura I belive

>>24470411
Just Caster and Fake Assassin, which is the same number as we have dead now (Cain presumably, and Fake Assassin).

The next one to bite it was Lancer, who got eaten by the Shadow.

>>24470376
But Bahsahkah is worth, like, 3, or something like that.
In unrelated news I just got back from Iron Man 3. Extremis chicks are hot.
>>24470414
Cherry Blossom time.

>>24470354
>>24470353
It wasn't the worms, it was fragments of the fourth grail implanted by Zouken. So far, all we've done is remove the worms that were threatening Sakura's health.

On a side note: Sakura was not actually supposed to be activated as a Lesser Grail in this time frame. HF's route is actually completely caused by Shirou choosing her, thus releasing all her pent-up negative emotions and making her a suitable vessel for Angry Manjew.

>>24470362
>>24470376
>>24470410
>>24470411
I was under the impression she was having Shadow dreams the entire time. It's just that the VN doesn't let us know that until both Assassin and Caster are down.

>>24470414
Team purple and it's implied that we check with Rider first since we're not supposed to know until Rider brings it up for us.

>>24470414

Saber:
>>24470185
>>24470227

Sakura:
>>24470231
>>24470252
>>24470267
>>24470280
>>24470287
>>24470298

Operation Tenchi Muyo:
>>24470208

Prepare for Lunch Negotiaions:
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>>24470438

Shit.

This really means we need that talk with zouken...

>>24470438
>it was fragments of the fourth grail implanted by Zouken.

Do we actually have confirmation that Zouken got his hands on the grail fragments this time around? If Avenger showed up at the end of the last war, he might have grabbed them himself.

Also, Kirei mentioned that he was going to the CHURCH to put down Zouken. Kirei tends not to get shit like that wrong, which means Zouken's phylactery worm might not actually be in Sakura.

>>24470438
To add to this, haven't there been more disappearances from the town recently?
And Berserker hasn't returned to the IlyaGrail.
And Sakura has just started having dreams about Kariya getting dissolved, and us rusting away.

>>24470470
>Zouken's phylactery worm might not actually be in Sakura
Well, no, we removed it.

>>24470452

>Sakura's a lock then.

>Topic of conversation? Or are you just going to stare at her until her sanity finishes crumbling away?

>>24470482
We're heading first to Rider to see the results of her talking to Sakura about the nightmares and then make a battleplan. And then we're going to dogpile feels onto Sakura until she feels better

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>>24470454
Good luck on that one, Kirei just went to exterminate him, remember?
If we get to talk to him, means he fucked up Kirei's shit.

>>24470470
>Zouken's phylactery worm might not actually be in Sakura.
We took the worms out.
Zouken is now just Zouken as far as I'm aware...?
And Zouken's body is in the Church.

>>24470482
>stare at her until her sanity finishes crumbling away
With this expression

>>24470482
Nightmares?

>>24470471

I'm not 100% sold that she's evil Grail waiting to happen. It's entirely possible that said nightmares are brought on by her low self esteem.

The events might not be connected anyway, WE'VE DONE NOTHING TO LOOK INTO THE ODD DISAPPEARANCES. AT ALL.

WHY ARE WE NOT HEROIC AT ALL!?

>>24470479
Oh yeah that's right, we used Rule Breaker this time didn't we?

In the VN Kirei can't remove it fully without killing her, but we may have bypassed that little obstacle thanks to our friendly neighborhood Caster.

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>>24470495
Because whenever we step outside our evil twin and/or Gilgamesh show up and try to wreck our shit! Its annoying as hell!

>>24470504

>I love that picture. I swear to god, you stare at in long enough and you can hear his insane laughter.

>>24470438

Not completely.

Zouken did tell us previously that he DID attempt to collect the grail fragments previously but he was unable to find any/they dissolved or something.

Unless we treat his words as all lies, i think the implantation of the fragments in sakura didnt occur in this timeline.

>>24470500
Doesn't keep her from being the Grail host, does it?

>>24470495
>I'm not 100% sold that she's evil Grail waiting to happen.
Well, I'm not the one trying to sell the idea to you.
I'm just trying to help out by posting Nasu-facts or quest history.

On that note, add
>>24470514
to the list of considerations for the paranoid ramblings.

>>24470493

Theres that optuon that no one wants which is going to the church to speak with him one last time before he dies and/or steal assassin.

>>24470514
>>24470500
So aside from THE TRAUMA, that means Sakura is probably fine. So we just have to deal with THE TRAUMA.

Unfortunately, unlike us I doubt being lit on fire will result in any life-changing epiphanies, so we should probably just start off with asking about her knightmares.

>>24470530

Actually, remember lancer's counsel?

We should be speaking with her about the fire as well. It'll be good for her as well.

>>24470513
It's the same laughter I'd imagine hearing while we drive poor Sakura insane

>>24470521
well, >>24470514 does.

And if she DID have grail fragments implanted in her, a stab from Rule Breaker might expel them anyway. It nullifies ALL magical contracts and bindings after all, and since she's not a proper Vessel that means the fragments would have to be magically attached to her.

>>24470500
>>24470521
Hmm, actually, that reminds me.
At the end of HF, IIRC Shirou uses Rule Breaker on Sakura in order to dispel Angry Manjew's connection to her.
Combining Zouken's claim of not having found the fragments with us already having used Rule Breaker on her, there is little chance of her either being an active Grail or Zouken's free respawn.

>>24470482

Only topics I can think of is what was Rin's assessment of Sakura's magic capabilities/element, how she's doing with Rider as her Servant again, and try to subtly squeeze in questions about her nightmares and ask if they're a frequent recurring thing.

>>24470565

You are now imagining zouken's mind in sakura's body.

>>24470310
>Sakura has inherited tremendous sorcerous potential [...], although she has little knowledge of established incantations and her Mana supply is limited by Zouken's worms.
>As a child, her father [...] recognized that while Sakura lacked all five elements, she extraordinarily possessed the rare potential as a mage with only Imaginary Numbers.
Imaginary Numbers is shadow-magic that lets her do Matou stuff.
We've dispelled the worms, so basically she's like mini-Rin in Fate/Zero right now.

>>24470482
Nightmares. Do it subtly. Say Rider mentioned she has trouble sleeping.

>>24470482

Nightmares and FIRE.

I find Rider along my search for Sakura.

"Hey. Have you seen Sakura?"

"I think she was thinking about lunch since you have your meeting." She answers, leaning against the wall.

"Right. Have you had a chance to talk to her about the whole knightmares thing?"

"No. I asked her about them claiming I felt a connection instead of actively watching her dreams. She just apologized and ran away blushing." She frowns. "I tried to approach the topic again and she panicked worse the more I pressed."

"... Damn. any ideas?"

"You could ask her if she's alright, since she looks a little flustered. I was planning on trying to make her dreams a bit... happier, if I could."

I look past Rider into the kitchen where Sakura's bustling about oblivious to our presence across the way.

>?