>>24399194
wait an hour for femcock to update with a new post

>>24399210
And suck off Snapple in the meantime.

>>24399194
Go over Liz's notes on what we missed in class so we're sure we got it all.

>>24399221
Seconding.

Rolled 5

>>24399221
Thirded. Can we get Liz to tutor us too?

>>24399194
Have Liz tutor us and Selene in Sorcery

>>24399322

It hurts that we are almost on the same level.

>>24399221
yes do this can't let our grade slip more

"Let's go over your class notes," you suggest to Liz. "Then, uh, maybe you could tutor me in Sorcery, or something? I'm pretty bad at it, and that's been a problem for the ideas I've been thinking up lately."

"I'd by happy to," she says. "I thought that Pierre offered to tutor you in Sorcery, though, didn't he?"

"I haven't really taken him up on that yet," you tell her. Your plans for him have fallen by the wayside in the past month or so. "So, how about a study session with you? Maybe we could even get Selene in on it - I'm barely better than she is right now."

"Does that sound like fun?" Liz asks Selene. She nods and runs up, leaving her legos behind.

The three of you head on up to the sitting room and get to work. Liz starts teaching Selene the basic fundamentals while you go over Liz's notes. You'll start studying with them too once you're done.

Roll Mind to study. You get a +2 for Focus, a +2 for Calm, and a +1 for Memory. I'll consider the first eight linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 51

>>24399456

Rolled 96

>>24399456
study hard

Rolled 87

>>24399456
Family night magic?

Rolled 58

>>24399456
Success!

Rolled 38

>>24399456
study study really hard

Rolled 20

>>24399456

Rolled 76

>>24399456

Rolled 92

>>24399456
learning

Rolled 46

>>24399456

>>24399467
>>24399468
>>24399507
>>24399512
4/8, nice.

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>>24399467
>>24399468
>>24399507
>>24399512
You study Liz's notes - it was mostly just what you already studied, but in greater and more specific detail. Once you're done, you head over to Liz and Selene. Selene is working on the bare fundamentals, and Liz works you in too, explaining a couple of new concepts to you, and putting a few old concepts in a simpler, clearer light. You end up learning some new stuff, if not as much as Selene probably learned.

Eventually, Selene gets fidgety and Liz lets her go off to do something else.

What do you do now?

>>24399605
lets stop fucking around get some bats rats or mice and practice living alchemy we were taught is some time ago and didn't do shit with our society will be dissipated if we dont make some progress.

>>24399605
lets start living alchemy practice (did we get the mice/rats ? )work we gotta get good to sissyfi frenchey

>>24399605
work in Alison's necklace

>>24399630
Yes, over the timeskip, you spent a few minutes and teleported in a bunch of lab rats lab rats, which have already started breeding.

>>24399624
>>24399630
seconding these

>>24399638
do we have a simple blood testing kit to see it our changes work?

if so let get rolling and biomage the fuck out of some rats.

>>24399624
You mean the one little bit of it Dane taught us in exchange for help well ahead of when we'd normally get it? At this point it's still totally a good idea to get some practice in, but it kind of feels like kicking a puppy to do anything to Pierre right now. He's incompetent in a society that doesn't tolerate it, and will disappear him if he leaves them and doesn't drop out. He's got a crush on a girl he's never going to have a chance with. And we've got him mentally rigged to ignore any possibility of us being his enemy.

Unless he goes on the offensive lets just ignore him for now.

>>24399725
practice first,then target the murder puppy when we are better at it. also we need him to help with sorcery so at least we are getting that from him the living alchemy is what we need to learn to survive the higher circles, its a must to study it and sorcery I dont care if we fuck with him or not but it is ideal that we can.

>>24399725
I dont want to feminize him yet ether but we should practice it anyway.

We can make him want to be our sub when we study with him like we should have over the time skip.

>>24399605
Check on Alison, then go practice some living alchemy.

>>24399766
I think Mom'll be proud that the type of work we're doing in Lotus will make us into a magic doctor.

>>24399809
are we jewish?

>>24399766
>>24399801
I wasn't arguing against practicing it, just using it right now.

>>24399918
In a way, technically sort of? We're the kid of one of the Jewish god's angels. I'm not sure about Mom's side. But she does work in the medical field as an RN.

>>24399923
You are right. We must fuse it with our field thing, and cast it all over Scholomance.
>We dickgirl lord now.

>>24399605
>>24399638
Cane we get started on some living alchemy strain foci then?

Now is as good of a time as any, you decide, to start practicing your living alchemy on the lab rats. You climb downstairs with Liz. She heads off to her spirit forge room, while you head off to the test subject storage room. You grab a nice, big male specimen - you're too tough for there to be any risk of it taking a bit out of you - and bring it over into the actual experimentation room. You put it in the experiment cage.

What foci do you collect for this?

>>24400148
>Some of Liz (normalest female here)
>Wank
>A birth control pill

>>24400148
perfume, sugar, spice, a rainbow on paper

>>24400148
eggs, semen for sexual connotation. Some dead skin from Liz.

>>24400172
If just a loose hair, then this.

I feel a bit dirty now.

You grab an egg, a birth control pill, and a loose hair from one of Liz's brushes, then head back down. You line up the foci, start concentrating, and feel only the briefest pang of sympathetic regret for what you're about to do to the rat.

Roll Alchemy. You get a +3 for temporary foci. I'll consider the first six results.

Rolled 71

>>24400278

Rolled 15

>>24400278

Rolled 85

>>24400278
No regrets

Rolled 66

>>24400278
>and feel only the briefest pang of sympathetic regret for what you're about to do to the rat.

We're going to make it the prettiest rat that ever was.

Rolled 54

>>24400278

Rolled 76

>>24400278

>>24400285
>>24400289
>>24400304
3/6
Not bad at all.

>>24400278
>and feel only the briefest pang of sympathetic regret for what you're about to do to the rat.

Eh, it's all in the name of magic science.

>>24400278

R.I.P. 2013

>>24400285
>>24400289
>>24400304
You... Think it might have worked? The foci turned to ash. The rat doesn't explode or anything. Aside from that, everything seems normal. You think you'll probably have to wait and see if the rat starts developing feminine secondary characteristics, which you only barely know how to look for in rats.

What do you do now?

>>24400406
More mundane transmutation strain foci? We seem to do that often.

>>24400406
make some living alchemy foci in our tattoos

>>24400406
Put some sort of tag on the rat so we can find it again later amongst the others, then put it back in its cage.

Did we ever find out if there was a specific archery tutor at the Lotus, or are all weaponry type things under Alexander Lee?

>>24400406
Hit medicine book.

>>24400440
This. Knowing what the changes we make and why are just as important as the techniques themselves.

>>24400440
>>24400464
Third

>>24400431
Seconded. Or we could make more mental attack foci.

>>24400440
Do it.

Also,
>Walking across campus, see flier for some sweepstakes to make a sub sandwich and get entered for a furniture giveaway
>Read the tagline
>"Make Great Subs, Get Great Furniture"
>Two minutes later, only barely manage to not >Hold down hysterical laughter for over a minute
You did this to me, Fem. I'm perfectly okay with it.

>>24400670
Huh, that last fourth line got snipped. Supposed to be "not spasm in public from sudden realization".

Oh, I might have the third part of Lunch DT training done today. I was gonna have it done yesterday, but I got nauseated all night. Sorry.

>>24400670
>"Make Great Subs, Get Great Furniture"
When we leave the Scholo, that should be our business.

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>>24400670
>"Make Great Subs, Get Great Furniture"

>>24400771
We kidnap people and enchant them to be subs and then living alchemy them to also function as couches?

>>24400843
We become Dom-Batman. Stalking the night, kidnapping evildoers and using a combination of enchantment and living alchemy to "rehabilitate" them into productive subs/comfortable furniture.

Which, considering Batman's track record with rehabilitating his enemies would actually make us more effective.

>>24400843
Sounds like a Tzimisce.

>>24400876
>Which, considering Batman's track record with rehabilitating his enemies would actually make us more effective.
You mean "capture, drop in Arkham, wait for them to escape, repeat?"

>>24399624
PERIODS!
COMMAS!

MOTHERFUCKER, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEM?

>>24400904
I'm sure Subs can make fine furniture without the need for vicissitude.

If Max becomes a Tzimisce then this quest really will have gotten too creepy for me.

You head up to the sitting room and grab your biology and medical text books, which you have yet to so much as read the first chapter of. You sit down and start reading, wanting to start figuring out the more specific biochemistry of the living alchemy that you've been doing. The living alchemy you just did more specifically.

Roll Mind. You get a +2 from Focus, a +2 from Calm, a +1 from Memory, and a +1 from a specialized text.

>>24400921
>>24399624
It's always the same two guys, isn't it.

Rolled 26

>>24400931

Rolled 63

>>24400931
fffrrrrrggh MORE ROLLS YEAAAAAH.

Rolled 97

>>24400931

Rolled 51

>>24400931
Learning!

Rolled 90

>>24400931
>biomancers get ones

Rolled 22

>>24400931

Rolled 36

>>24400931

>>24400926
>I'm sure Subs can make fine furniture without the need for vicissitude.
They do.

Rolled 59

>>24400931

Rolled 12

>>24400931
Dr Max needs to get herself a lab coat.

Rolled 78

>>24400931
last one

Rolled 85

>>24400931

>>24400988
A few lengths of rope and some elbow grease and you can make a wooden chair into the most comfortable thing you've ever sat in! Only problem is it tends to make a lot of these creaking, groaning noises. I've yet to discover a solution.

>>24400843
All this "let's make things out of human skin" really makes me think there's something wrong with you

>>24401046
It's taken you this long to come to that conclusion?

We should meditate after this and work towards finishing our fourth mind box

>>24401035
Ball gag and semi-random pulses of vibrations with silk scarves between skin and rope.

>>24400948
>>24400963
You make some progress on understanding how the various parts of the endocrine system work and why. It doesn't really explain the physical effects that the changes will have on a rat, but it does explain the biochemistry and give you some idea of the effect they'll have on a human. The knowledge is general and a bit broad, but still illuminating.

It's getting on into the evening. What do you do now?

Rolled 45

>>24401281
Check on Alison. It's been a few hours by now, she will probably need feeding or some such.

>>24401281
Mundane transmutation foci. Strain preferably.

>>24401295
We should probably do this quickly whatever else we do. Can't be neglecting our newborn.

>>24401281
We slowly masturbate, considering the endless possibilities of turning males into sissies, with the help of !science!

>>24401295
this

You decide to go check on your new little girl to make sure she's okay. The sight you find is adorable. Selene is sitting on her bed. Fap is sitting on her head. Alison is sitting on Selene's lap. The water dragon plushy is squeezed in Alison's arms. Both are watching Plaza Sesamo on your laptop.

When you come in, Selene smiles at you and waves. Alison, though, climbs unsteadily out of the bed and toddles over to you with a big grin on her face.

What do you do?

>>24401631
We gotta pick her up and spin her around, duh. After that, we gotta sit her with Selene and see what Selene did with her.

>>24401631
Fawn over baby. Doy.

>>24401631
Play a game with our adorable daughters, naturally.

>>24401631
Kneel down with our arms wide, when Alison gets to us pick her up, spin her around, cuddle the fuck out of her.

Then sit down, put Selene in our lap and have some relaxing time with our daughters.

>>24401631
See if Ali wants a big bottle of icey nutrient water.

>>24401709
We could make her popsicles out of it! She'd love em.

>>24401631
we haven't yet demonstrated our proefficiency in making funny noises with our mouth.
>>24401707
>>24401672
these too

>>24401631
Clearly, we gush over her. Then we watch Plaza Sesamo with our kids stacked and their pets stacked on our legs. Matryoskha style.

>>24401831
Also, pictures to send to Mom are required.

>>24401631
>>24401853
Oh snap, we clearly forgot about this. Get some pics and send them to mom.

Rolled 4

>>24401878
>>24401853
I agree.

You kneel down and let her come to you, then scoop her up and spin her around. "Are you and your big sister having fun?" you ask her. She just laughs and grabs at your face. You carry her back over and sit her back down in her big sister's lap, take a picture of them like that, and then slide in behind both of them, wrapping your arms around your girls.

You watch Plaza Sesamo for a while longer before Alison starts getting fidgety. You bring them up to the kitchen, give Alison a bottle, and take the opportunity to snap a few more pictures of her while you get to work cooking up a little snack for Selene and yourself. When you finally sit down to eat, you ask your oldest daughter, "So, do you like being a sister?"

"Yes!" she says eagerly. "It's really fun and her mind is really easy to put things in."

Uh. What?

What do you say?

>>24401942
what have you been placing in her mind Selene?

>>24401942
....What have you been putting in your sister's head?

>>24401942
Oh boy. Time for a magical responsibility talk.

First ask her what she put in there. Then give her a stern talking to about altering the minds of her friends and family without their permission.

>>24401942
Ask Selene what she put in Alison's mind.

It's probably harmless stuff, but we should always check.

Then ask Selene if she understands what she can and can do in terms of enchantment to her little sister. If it's just harmless little stuff like putting pictures in her mind to entertain Alison, I'd think it'd be fine and a fun way for her to practice enchantment.

>>24401942
Well, we need to find out what she did first, and then calmly explain why she can't just start fucking with people's heads all willy nilly.

>>24401942
Well, I can't say I'm surprised.

First ask her what she put in there. Then we'll have to gently but firmly explain that it isn't okay to mess with people's minds like that when they're friends/family. Ask how she would feel if someone messed with her mind, if they did something mean like making her dislike meat and love cookies.

>>24401984
Considering the possibility of a critfail harming Selene, Alison, or both, it's not really harmless.

We need to teach Selene that she can't just use magic to do whatever she wants.

>>24402049
He meant the stuff Selent put in her head is likely harmless. Its not Alison has been programmed to destroy all humans or something.

>>24402049
I thought it was assumed that other people aside from us would always automatically succeed in their spells? I think this was actually discussed in a previous thread.

>>24402080
And when I say always succeed, I mean when we're not being them or when we're not using them to do something we want that's important (like teleporting some of the sun onto Lunch's base).

>>24402039
>Ask how she would feel if someone messed with her mind, if they did something mean like making her dislike meat and love cookies.
That's actually a pretty good way to get her to understand how serious this is.

>>24402080
Shortly after we discussed that, Dad failed a teleport spell so Femcock could prove a point.

...No-one has failed anything since mind you.

>>24402039
I second that analogy of why messing with people's minds if bad.

If one thing could make Selene realise the gravity of what she's doing, it's knowing that it could deny someone delicious meats forever.

>>24401942
Ask her what kinds of things she's been putting in. Since she cares about the kid it's probably fine but she still might have inadvertently caused trouble.

>>24402108
Um, no, that's twisted. Words work fine enough.

>>24402215
I was not suggesting doing it, just sponsoring telling her that. Reading comprehension, man.

"Selene, what did you put in her mind?" you say, making a conscious effort to keep your voice even and steady.

"Words and pictures and stuff," says Selene, not realizing yet that she might be in trouble. "I'm trying to make her talk, but it's hard."

Well that... Not nearly as bad as it could be. Still. "Selene, honey, you can't go playing with people's minds without asking permission first. That's even worse than taking things without asking. After all, if someone did that to you, they could make you hate meat and want to eat cookies all the time," you explain to her.

She makes a face of disgust and sticks out her foot-long red tongue. "Gross, mama!" she says. "That's terrible."

"Yes, it is," you say. "So don't got messing around with your sister's mind. She might not like that. It's better for her to learn how to talk the same way you did."

Selene pouts for a moment, then says, "Fine. But mama, she was the only one I could do stuff to other than Breakfast and Fap and Gaviscon and mommy's dragon. And it's not fun doing stuff in their minds anymore."

What do you say to that?

>>24402215
He didn't say to do it. He said to ask how she would feel about someone doing it to her.

>>24402242
We could let her fiddle with the rats.

Rolled 56

>>24402242
>But mama, she was the only one I could do stuff to other than Breakfast and Fap and Gaviscon and mommy's dragon. And it's not fun doing stuff in their minds anymore."

Does Max have to spank a baby?

Cause I feel like Max is gonna have to spank a baby.

>>24402242
"what have you been doing to their minds?"

>>24402242
Oh boy, find out what she's been doing to all of them.

I think what this proves is that we need to give her regular Enchantment lessons so she can practice under Max's guidance without going off and doing it whenever she feels like, at least not until she's mature enough to understand what she's doing.

>>24402278
No spanking.

Stern talkings to only.

>>24402278
starting to get kinky in here...

>>24402242
Tell her not to do it at all.
Never to anyone, but the pets.

>>24402242
"Magic is really serious, honey. If you get it wrong you could really hurt them. You could even hurt yourself playing with it."

>>24402278
>Roll body to hold back enough to not accidentally paralyze her

>>24402242
>And it's not fun doing stuff in their minds anymore."

"Didn't I just tell you that you can't go playing with people's minds without asking permission first? We do not do magic because its fun Selene. We do it in order to survive."

>>24402242
"What were you doing in their minds? Specifically. Honey, you can't just dig in people's heads like that, you might really hurt them."

>>24402315
>>24402297
This.

"Didn't you see in Halloween that magic isn't the answer to everything? What would happen if you made a mistake and their mind was turned to ash like the candies?"

>>24402346
To be fair, the candy didn't turn to ash, just the foci.

>>24402242
time to make some toy robots(somewhat like gav) for her to play with. we also need to check that the safeties are still in lunch's head

We could give her a project to work on so she doesn't get bored.

How about we get her to weave the rat's intelligence together into a hive mind?

>>24400931
Adding to whatever else we say, "Honey, I'm glad that you're good at magic. But you can't treat people like they're toys."

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>>24402369
Ladies and gentlemen, retard Snapple has returned.

Proceed to mock him.

>>24402390
It's not stupid. It would nurture her abilities and also keep her distracted from messing with her sisters' heads.

>>24402369
While that's an overly advanced project for her. We could let her practice basic enchantments on the rats. Tell her she's not allowed to use it on anyone else in the tower unless we tell her otherwise.

>>24402390
Stop giving him attention.

>>24402346
>>24402297
>>24402315
Those seem good. We might want to ground her or give her a small punishment for a couple of days, like not allowing her to eat meat for a week.

>>24402242
>But mama, she was the only one I could do stuff to other than Breakfast and Fap and Gaviscon and mommy's dragon.
That implies that she tried it on everyone else too.

>>24402420
the rat hive-mind is retarded, the project idea is actually really good

>>24402421
I second this. So that Selene has an outlet for her enchantment practice when we ban her from using it on others in the tower. We let her practice on some rats.

>>24402390
That's hardly the dumbest idea ever. Give her a dozen or so rats and tell her that you want her to link their minds together. Then we can make an obstacle course.

>>24402445
this

>>24402456
The mind linking is probably too advanced for her. Start with something simple like influencing and controlling a single rat, and work up from there.

>>24402437
Its not just implying, she admitted it:" it's not fun doing stuff in their minds anymore".

>>24402471
No, he means that she tried digging in dad, Lin, and Liz's heads too. Probably our's too.

>>24402471
No, I mean she tried it on Lunch, Max, Liz, Lin, and Dimitri.

>>24402470
We could actually start giving her set projects, proper lessons and such. She's still at an age where completing a lesson and earning praise will make her happy.

>>24402453
Just be sure to divide Selene rats from Max rats.

>>24402423
No punishment, yet, and not letting her eat meat isn't a good one as that's one of her main food sources. She didn't know what she was doing was wrong, if she keeps it up after our talk we can discipline her.

>>24402500
Of course, we have to be sure and give her safety instructions on dealing with the rats as well. Although we could just enchant all of Selene's rats not to bite her.

>>24402487
>>24402496
Fuck that's a good point.

I'm pretty sure that >>24402423 has the right idea, we need to punish her in order to never use magic on us ever again.

>>24402470
Why would it be too ambitious? Creating a whole new mind for Gav was easy-peasy. Linking already existing minds shouldn't bee /too/ difficult, just take a bit of time.

>>24402531
>not allowing her to eat meat
>the only food source we've given her?

>>24402532
Because creating a whole mind for Gav was easy for a grown up group of students with time and knowledge to gather foci and work together to make it happen.

Selene is a little girl who's only just learned the basics.

>>24402531
She was never told it was wrong before. This is more our fault than hers. Hence why we should only give her a talking to this time, and sort things out.

If she does it again, then we can figure out a punishment.

>>24402532
Build a pocket dimension, fill it with leftover elementals from Liz's spirit forge, and have Selene network their minds together.

Selene becomes neural network programmer.

>>24402550
>>24402522
Meat is only a delicacy to her, dryads aren't humans.

Cockslap Selene as punishment. Then teach her that she's not supposed to mess with people's minds without your permission ans supervision, or her grandpa's.

>>24402557
She was only taught the basics and has already figured out how to dig in people's heads with (apparently) minimal effort. Then, she learned how to implant things in their minds. Then she got fucking bored of it because it was "too easy". You are severely underestimating her natural talent.

We should take a peek at Allison's mind to make sure Selene didn't damage anything.

>>24402598
might be a good idea

>4 day weekend
>Read BFQ start to finish over two days
>Dick won't get hard
>Have to clean in 2 meter radius around PC chair
>Leave house for an hour and return to find that it still smells like fapping
>Can literally smell cum outside of my room
>Dreams about magical schools
>Still worth it

>>24402585
Apparently her powers are still so weak that those members of the tower who aren't babies or functionally retarded didn't even notice her attempts to get by their wards.

>>24402607
INB4 crtifail and we turn her into a vegetable.

>>24402598
We will scan not only Alison, but Breakfast and the familiars too.

>>24402568
>Selene becomes master of the Spiritech supercomputer directional-magic grid

>>24402369
>>24402369
>We could give her a project to work on so she doesn't get bored.
Yes.
>How about we get her to weave the rat's intelligence together into a hive mind?
No.

Is it just me or did the thread go smoother when Snapple wasn't here?

>>24402615
>Spiritech supercomputer directional-magic grid
Holy shit that sounds badass

>Selene was inside Breakfast's mind
>COCK

>>24402613
for a mind scan?
we wouldn't fuck with her mind unless absolutely necessary

>>24402631
If by smoother you mean 'boring and uninspired', then yes.
Much smoother.

>>24402636
>Selene was inside our tower
>constant fucking

>>24402636
Selene already knows about grown-up games. We have given Breakfast the COCK in front of her.

>>24402609
Probably because we haven't taught her how to get around defenses. We never did any practical work with her. She figured it out on her own. Once we get to teaching her how to get around defenses, I'd be willing to bet that the first practice she gets, she eats through defenses like bacon.

>>24402565
this ! selene is a good girl, if we had gave her clear instruction, she wouldn't have do that. as it is, it's not fair to punish her for rules she didn't even know existed.

>>24402585
Apparently, the only people she could manage it on are the ones with Mind 1 or less. So, not that talented, but still amazing for a little girl.

>>24402615
She apparently likes digging around in minds for fun, so it's not a stretch.

>>24402654
exactly

>>24402615
That would be so cool. Spirit hivemind > ratmind

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>>24402688
The rats are conceptual introduction are simple practice. After she can do it easily, we let her lose on a bundle of spirits and let her have it.

what we need to do is make some warded toys for Selene. they basically be Mind puzzles

We should have her make Pinky and the Brain.

>>24402733
A mouse at mind one and a mouse at mind five? Sounds... well, as long as it doesn't succeed at taking over the world.

>Selene creates a race of hyper-intelligent rats that worship her as a Goddess.

"Selene, that could be very dangerous!" you tell her. "If you mess up, you could really hurt someone. Magic is always at least a little risky. That's why we cook food instead of making it with magic and that's why we talk to people instead of playing with their minds."

Selene pouts, but her mind is clearly on the Halloween candy debacle.

"Now, you can play with Fap's mind if you want, since he belongs to you, but everyone else you need permission first. I might be able to make you some toys for Enchantment too. Aside from that, you can't do it to anybody unless you get permission first. Are we clear?" you ask her.

"...yes, mama..." she murmurs. She's clearly not happy about this turn of events.

What do you do now?

>>24402732
Summon basic, nearly mindless spirits and enchant them with varying difficulties of mind shields. See how long it takes her to work around them.

So, THIS is the real reason why the vampire lord blood was a bad idea. A tendency to see the minds of others as play-things. Maybe psychic megalomania?

>>24402756
"Would you like to try linking some rats together into one mind? Or how about creating an entirely new one and putting it in a pineapple?"

>>24402756
"What exactly did you put in Breakfast and Gaviscon's head?"

Then go check on the two.

>>24402756
Check on Allison, then meditate to work towards Mind 4

>>24402756
Tell her we'll give her some regular lessons, and let have some of our lab rats to practice on.

>>24402774
This is more like a curious child that was never told what they were doing was a bad thing. It's hardly something that serious. If it is, there's not enough evidence to support that claim.

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>>24402774
>So, THIS is the real reason why the vampire lord blood was a bad idea.
it's more along the lines of

>>24402774
Any child in the world, if given enchantment powers and not given strict guidelines on its usage, would abuse it.

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>>24402779
>Or how about creating an entirely new one and putting it in a pineapple?

>>24402779
>Put rat mind in pineapple
Shut up, Snapple.

>>24402615
>>24402568
Oh god, it's like Deep Rot all over again.

>>24402849
Not a rat mind, a whole new mind. Like the one we gave Gav.

>>24402795
Seconding this. Although we should start on a less ambitious project than Snapple's one.

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>>24402774
No, it sounds exactly like something a child with the ability to mold minds would do. We just need to teach her some...boundaries.

>>24402756
Give her a hug, tell her we love her make sure she knows we're not mad.

Tell her she can do whatever she wants with the rats we aren't using as long as she's careful.

>>24402792
Bad idea, higher mind makes Self Enhance harder.

>>24402864
why the hell would we need a sentient pineapple?

>>24402842
It'd have a pretty prickly personality afterwards, I think. Don't want it to go sour, do we?

>>24402886
Well we would need to give her SOMETHING to fuck around with. Why not a pineapple?

>>24402886
It would distract Selene from mindbuggering her sister. If she messes up hard, mulching a pineapple is less of an issue than mulching Alison's brain.

>>24402849
>>24402886

Technically this time he's only making ideas on what would be fun games for Selene, not because having a sentient pineapple would be useful or anything.

>>24402912
>fruit that screams as you eat it
This shit is why I'm not a vegetarian.

>>24402880
We're going to have to reach mind 4 sooner or later.

>Selene has a healthy non-destructive view on mental alteration
>NO THIS IS EVIL EVEN THOUGH WE DO IT TO OUR OWN FUCKING SELVES
Why?

>>24403011
Because she's invading the privacy of others without their permission. There's no problem if the person says it's okay.

>>24402908
Or we could just make smart mice. They're way more suited to having minds than a pineapple is.

>>24403011
>WE DO IT TO OUR OWN FUCKING SELVES

Maybe this is why its ok for us idiot?

Seriously, let's just give her a rat or something.

>>24403011
>I manipulate minds and alter personalities because its fun!
>healthy
Not really. Though you did hit the nail on the head of why Im so disgusted at the trapfags who want to eviscerate Pierre's balls.

>>24403011
>healthy non-destructive view on mental alteration
>"no need to ask first, just fuck around however you like. Wait, what's practice?"

Yeah no. This is neither healthy nor non-destructive. If she'd botched a roll our new kids would be brain dead.

>>24402941
And I'd rather it be later.

>>24403011
She's an amateur and is messing with her Sister's head. There are so many ways it could go wrong, we're not saying it's evil, just a bad idea.

>>24403011
Selene messing with minds untrained even though we do it is like a professional target shooter's 10 year old playing with a rifle. We know how to do it safely and when it's needed, she knows neither. And letting her fuck around on her own is only going to teach her the former, which brings a whole host of other problems.
Like when she starts lusting after our dick, sees Liz as being in the way, and figures that mindrape is totally the way to go here.
Nobody wants that.

>>24403062
I'm okay with doing it to Pierre because he's an enemy. The same way I was okay with nuking the Tengu.

>>24403134
>he's an enemy
>dotes on us and likes us more than his society
>enemy
You've got a funny view on what defines enmity. I'd hate to see how you function in normal social situations.

>>24403128
>not teaching your ten year old to shoot properly

>>24403062
Eh. That's just the "fetish" part of the quest. Gotta roll with it.

>>24403154
>wants to slaughter and destroy and entire class of being
>which we happen to belong to

>enemy

>>24403154
He's an enemy because if he knew what we really were, he'd kill us. He'd kill our father. He'd kill our mother for being with our father. He'd kill Selene and Alison for being Dryads. He'd kill Liz and Lin for sleeping with us. He'd kill Sam, and probably Hera too.
And he would think he was doing the right thing by doing it.

Just because he's ignorant right now doesn't mean that he isn't dangerous. Don't ever fucking forget it.

>>24403134
Until the moment his threat index actually moves up again I'm fine with where he is now. He has a flawed mind shield and can't see us as a threat.

So if he looks like he's trying anything but his clumsy "lets be more than friends" moves, yeah, then we can estro-teste him and see if that makes him drop out.

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>>24403011
I wouldn't even be surprised if one of the reasons Selene thought it was okay was because all the times she went into Breakfast's head made her realize just how horribly skewed and altered it had been, so just thought, "Oh, mommy does it all the time, and Breakfast acts so happy all the time, so I don't see why I can't do it either!"

I mean she is a kid and she seems to want to copy grown-up things, so it's not that big of a jump in logic to see us doing it and want to copy it without realizing the context of our actions.

>>24403172
He's not going to slaughter and destroy us, though, even if he thinks he wants to now. Why consider him an enemy when he's functionally not? It would take enchantment from an outside source to make him our enemy. By that logic, absolutely everyone is an enemy since they could be enchanted against us.

>>24403193
>He'd kill Selene and Alison for being Dryads
Quit making shit up. You could argue that he would kill them for being demon tainted but he has nothing against dryads. The only reason he didn't get upset at the crucifixions at the beginning of the year is because an older year Dextra did it and in his blind mind that means they MUST have been guilty.

Quit spouting blatant fucking lies like theyre the truth.

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>The same bullshit Pierre arguments that ruined the threads before the break are starting up again.

These aren't even new arguments on the subject, you people are just recycling the old ones.

>>24403244
>Why consider him an enemy when he's functionally not?
Because he so easily could be. And if we slip up, we're as good as dead. This is Scholomance, not Hogwarts.

>It would take enchantment
No, it would only take the truth.

>Quit making shit up.
I'm not. It's very likely that Dextra kills spiritual entities on the whole. Dryads qualify.

>>24403246
I like to imagine that all the batshit insane comments in here are actually just people really really good at staying in character and roleplaying how a 16 year old would view morality.

Honestly even though I agree with you, they are the ones that are being more accurate in how a fucking teenager would react to these things. I mean remember when we first met Sanjay and our literal first reaction was to figure out how to murder him SOLELY because he was rude to us? That's exactly how a teenager would act when given magical powers and thrown into murder school.

Max is fucked in the head, deal with it.

>>24403246
>>24403319
Please just stop. All of you. You will not convince the people on the other side of your point of view, you're just screaming at each other pointlessly.

>>24403319
>I'm not. It's very likely that Dextra kills spiritual entities on the whole. Dryads qualify.
Fem talked about it in the meta thread. They mainly focus on spirits openly hostile to humans. Intelligent, non-hostile demons can be considered neutral.

>>24403244
He hates demons. We personally are protected by a mind seed that is not infallible. If Pierre notices anything weird going on, sure, the mind seed will divert his attention away from us. That just means he'll start suspecting those around us instead. Considering how stupid he is, it would take next to nothing for him to convince himself that Liz or Lin were succubi attempting to subvert dear innocent Max.
Then, because he's a lovestruck moron, he will inevitably attempt to "save" us from the demon menace by attempting to kill someone.

Guys, forget the Pierre bullshit right now. What do we do to about Selene? She both enjoys and has a natural talent for Enchantment. How can we have her practice and improve in a safe environment?

>>24403352
Considering that Sam is a half-demon who hasn't bothered hiding his nature from Pierre, he will be the most likely target if Pierre attempts to "save" Max.

Honestly with all the drama Pierre causes, I just want to enchant him into dropping out, and save feminization for our first real male foe, rather than some loser with some dodgy ideas.

>>24403410
There are multiple posts suggesting what to do up above the pierre stuff.

People post their suggestions, then they get bored of waiting and start rambling on about other shit.

>>24403352
did we ever set up the spell that forced us to emit energy that makes us look like a normal human when Pierre or whomever uses that spell to see auras?

>>24403410
Non-mobile elemental mind (like Gav's) for her to practice on?

>>24403319
>It's very likely that Dextra kills spiritual entities on the whole. Dryads qualify.
Fem fucking explicitly said Dextras have a neutral, if racist, outlook towards all nondemonic nonhumans and the only reason they reacted to Breakfasts disappearance the way they did is because her family is a big fucking deal and they needed to show that they were doing something about her disappearance and is really fucking extreme, even for Dextra. Normally, they don't give two fucks about dryads unless that dryad is killing humans or something.

So yes, you are just plain making shit up. Shit Fem has said is explicitly false. Hell, you even admit you are talking out of your ass when you use weasel words like VERY LIKELY, meaning you know jack shit.

>>24403439
Perception filter. He sees our lack of aura and just thinks to himself "Oh must be having an off day herpdederp"

>>24403344
Im not trying to convince him of anything. Do whatever the fuck you want to pierre, but dont use that bullshit logic of OH NOES HE IS COMMIN TO EAT MAH DRYAD BAYBEES when Fem has said that Dextra dont fuckin care about leaftits.

>>24403423
Stuff that has fucked threads in the past, with two sides that are fundamentally irreconcilable. And it's not even relevant at the moment, it's just people screaming at each other.

>>24403447
That's OOC Information, though
Max doesn't know that DD is normally ok with Dryads

>>24403480
See, you want him to realise that your point of view is correct, that's kind of the definition of trying to convince someone.

>>24403485
I know, and I wish it would stop. But most of the people in these threads are incapable of being civil for more than five minutes.

>>24403412
Well we don't want him attacking Sam either.
The whole point of feminizing him is because he ISN'T an immediate, urgent threat. A competent foe is one that needs to be taken care of quickly, not fucked around with. Pierre is not an urgent threat, but he may present one somewhere down the line, so we can head that off with a slower, more interesting method such as turning him into a bitch. Our first "real" male foe gets a chunk of the sun in their face, in all likelyhood, because a "real" threat has to be dealt with promptly.

>>24403499
No, I'm correcting him on misinformation. There is nothing to be convinced of since word of fucking god has said that he is mistaken.

>>24403480
Which is why they, you know, murdered one for no reason, right?

>>24403464
but.... for the people in his group who aren't inept?

>>24403510
Our first real male foe might well suffer a mindcrush and rewrite like Lunch did. Then we can feminize him to our hearts content.

Remember, sunstriking someone is very very dramatic, and if we do it too often, the Archmages will feel compelled to investigate properly.

>>24403526
They already know. Or have better methods that are actually protected society secrets.

We didn't even need a spell to trick it, we can just pump out fake aura without magic if we didn't have the perception filter.

>>24403531
Hence the "In all likelyhood". If we need somebody gone quick, well, that gets the fucking gone quick.

Which reminds me, we need to set up some method of warding the tower against sound, on the off chance that we DO need to pull the sun trick again. We don't want to deafen Selene again.

>>24403526
If they care, they know. DAd has said multiple times that it's pointless to hide your aura, and more effective to simply force them to not care.

"So, sweetie," you ask her. "What, exactly, did you do to Breakfast and Gaviscon's minds?"

"Um," she says, now clearly not sure how much she should tell you in case she's going to get in trouble. "I had Breakfast bring me snacks. And, um, made Gaviscon dance. And made Breakfast bring me up and down the ladder when I couldn't climb it. That's, uh, pretty much it."

"Selene," you say slowly, frowning at her.

"And I made Gaviscon and the dragon wrestle. And I made Breakfast hide Lunch's hoodie. And I made Breakfast really like bringing me snacks a lot. And... And stuff like that," she says, squirming in her seat.

"And how much of that was permanent? Which things will last forever?" you ask.

"Uh, Breakfast really likes doing stuff I ask her to now. Even more than before. And I put some neat tricks in Fap's mind. That's all."

What do you do now?

>>24403572
ok, thanks, i must have missed this somewhere

>>24403575
Gotta nip this in the bud before she becomes a sociopath. Also, what "neat tricks"?

We're going to go undo this stuff later, right?

>>24403575
So are we waiting until Alison is old enough to name the dragon herself? It's feeling really awkward that it doesn't have a name yet.

>>24403575
Well, we'll have to check Breakfast's mind to make sure she hasn't done any serious damage. In the meantime, tell her she's not allowed to use enchantment on anyone except Fap, but that we'll give her some lab rats to practice on.

>>24403575
None of that was really bad though.

Just tell her to let you know before messing with the pets.

And then give her some rats to fiddle with.

>>24403575
Get her some rats to practice with. Have her make them do intricate stuff and command them like they're an army in an rts game.

>>24403575
"Stuff like that"
"Neat tricks"
Yeah, that's the sort of noncommittal generic response that screams innocence.

>>24403575
"ok.... but no more of that. for now, let's find something else for you to do, perhaps you could help dad with the spirits he's collecting? and i better not find out that you did something wit their minds that you didn't tell me..... "

>>24403575
"Fap is your property so I can't do anything to him, but I'm afraid I'm gonna have to restore the others."

Max can revert the changes Selene made to Alison and Breakfast right? Kinda like how dad "healed" Breakfast's mind.

>>24403575
Reinforce the idea of privacy inside your own head, and that she's very lucky she didn't hurt anyone.

Should Gav be fair game for her to fiddle with?

>>24403575
Be sure and explain to her that part of being a big grown-up girl who gets to use magic is understanding how dangerous it can be if it's not used carefully. For now we're restricting its usage to some lab rats for her to practice on. We can set her little projects like making them run mazes and such, she'll be proud of herself for that.

>>24403679
I dunno, can you get silly putty back in the egg and smooth?

>>24403691
Gav belongs to Liz, so no, not without Liz's permission.

>>24403679
>>24403632
>>24403615
Yeah, we really should check Alison's brain for changes.

>>24403679
why? there was no real harm done

>>24403635
Rats probably don't even have a Mind score. She's already bored with Breakfast's and Gaviscon's Mind score of 1, we should at least give her something.

>>24403705
inb4 vampire child controls armies of bats and rats

>>24403524
see >>24403447
>the only reason they reacted to Breakfasts disappearance the way they did is because her family is a big fucking deal and they needed to show that they were doing something about her disappearance and is really fucking extreme, even for Dextra
They did that for appearances due to US kidnapping and raping someone related to a highly influential member of MM.

Fucking read, cuntnugget.

>>24403724
Doesn't matter. All that matters is that she COULD have fucked something up.

>>24403724
>there was no real harm done

And how the hell does Max know this? We need to check to make sure.

>>24403718
Technically, we have an equal claim to him as Liz or Lin. Better just make her a mind separate for everything else (including Fap, since she relies on him) to play with/practice on.

is nobody going to mention that our main character is the star player for Tranmere Rovers or

>>24403741
>>24403447
>her family is a big fucking deal
[citation needed]
If that were the case they would still be actively searching for the culprit, and if they were still searching, we'd be dead already.

>>24403735
Then have her give a mind to some inanimate object, like a pineapple. Or buff a rat up.

>>24402242
Playing catch up.

>Selene pouts for a moment, then says, "Fine. But mama, she was the only one I could do stuff to other than Breakfast and Fap and Gaviscon and mommy's dragon. And it's not fun doing stuff in their minds anymore."

And Selene continues to be my favorite dryad-daughter!

>>24403791
This. She was enjoying trying to teach Alison. So see if she can train a rat to do all kinds of tricks and boost its intelligence.

>>24403791
We should snap the pineapple's neck so we can make it a heart of power.

>>24403771
Probably not, as we're a teenage girl.

But we probably have a bigger dick than he does.

>>24403784
>[citation needed]

Femcock herself told us.

>>24403831
That doesn't even make sense.

>>24403784
>[citation needed]
Go look in the Break Thread or find it on foolz for me since I cant seem to. Fem said it all there, that MM only overreacted because they were pressured by outside forces and that they normally dont care about nonhumans.

>>24403865
That still makes no sense. If they were a "big deal" they wouldn't be satisfied by a couple of random murdered kids, they'd want the actual culprit hunted down. Nothing of the sort has happened.

>>24403888
>they normally dont care about nonhumans
That's hyperbole.

>>24403784
>[citation needed]
Fem said it herself. Breakfast (Maria) is related to a very influential MM member, so DD put on airs to show cooperation when she disappeared. DD has no interest in finding us beyond that. MM might be looking for us, but we've seen neither hide nor tail of them.

>>24403897
Then take it up with femcock, because thats what she fucking said.

https://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/24167830/

Break thread for those that want it.

>>24403575
I think we need to put parental control wards on Gav and the Meals' minds. If we're lucky Selene might teach herself to hack wards over the next couple of months. Leaving her mental access to her sister's plushie should either teach her some measure of self control, or how to avoid getting caught (now that we're looking).

First things first, do a mind scan of Alison and see if there's any damage.

>>24403988
We are not going to encourage Selene to be a devious, manipulate sociopath. Please, no.

Before anything else, you decide, you're going to want to do a mental scan of Alison and make sure that her mind is completely intact.

What foci do you collect for the scanning spell?

>>24403988
>setting up passcodes for minds like we would for a TV
>Mooooooooom, I need the passcode to Breakfast's head! I want popcorn!

>>24404034
Magnefying glass
Tape
Bandaid
Map
Brainpic

Any of those that work

>>24403906
Not quite. DD isn't going to go out of their way to take Max out unless we get caught doing something overtly morally reprehensible to humans while revealing our demonic nature. If, for example, DD found out about the Meals killing Max could net someone a promotion.

>>24404049
At least they won't right now. If the other Dextra makes it to a later year and needs Max out of the way to secure advancement, she'll probably target Max over the human mages.

>>24403575
So Selene is doing the sort of things we do, and is pretty much exactly as responsible as us - moreso than Liz. Why are we mad about this?

>>24404071
Sure, but I suspect that she might alternatively target someone more overtly inhuman or openly antagonistic to humans (remember, Max has been hanging out with Liz and Lin for months without killing or magically enslaving them) before coming after us. It all depends on what kind of information on us she has access to really.

>>24404034
>>24404048
ruler
wank
condom