>>24356602
Go hug her.

Then introduce Liz.

>>24356602
give her a hug, take some pictures, chat.

then Trick or treat.

>>24356619
this

>>24356619
>>24356625
these sound good

>>24356602
What time is it? Spending some time with Mom should be nicer than rushing off to do stuff.

>>24356602
Introductions. Pictures.

>>24356602
hug, introduce Selene, then Liz, pictures, chat, and trick or treat.

You head out into the main room to give your mother a hug. You find her already squeezing her granddaughter, who seems ecstatic to meet her. Your mom's in her hospital scrubs and looks tired, but happy. "This little girl must be Selene!" she declares, spinning her around. You walk up and gives both of them a hug, and your mom puts her arm around you. You forgot how much you missed your mom. "I missed you, Max," she whispers, then plants a kiss on the top of your head.

"Um... Hi," Liz says nervously behind you. She stands there fidgeting. You mother looks her over slowly, and Liz shrinks back from the attention, before your mom walks up and gives her a quick hug too.

"It's nice to finally meet you," your mother tells her. "We should talk. Here, Max, can you take some pictures of Selene? I want something to put up on the fridge." She fishes out an old digital camera and hands it over to you before leading Liz off to the other side of the room for a 'talk.'

Selene immediately starts posing for the camera, and you spend a few minutes having fun taking pictures and making her do badass poses. You finish up when your mom and Liz come back over.

"So, are we going trick-or-treating?" your mother asks. "Give me a minute to get changed and I'll be ready to go."

>>24357040
>pictures on the fridge

So I'm guessing mom doesn't plan on ever inviting any normal, non-magical friends over to the house?

>>24357040

express concern about how tired she looks, is everything at work alright?

>>24357040
Woo. Time to hit up the neighborhood.

>>24357068
Being a nurse is tiring. I'd think Max would be used to seeing her like that.

>>24357068
All nurses look tired after work, it's an exhausting job.

>>24357040
take a few pictures of liz "so what did she say?"

>>24357040
While mom is off changing, ask Liz what they talked about.

While your mom heads off to change, you pull Liz aside. "So, what did you guys talk about?" you ask her.

"Oh, you know," she says evasively. "Normal stuff."

"Like?" you ask insistently.

"Like... 'if you ever hurt Max' and so on and so forth," Liz says, not making eye contact. "It was actually really sweet. She's really protective of you. I think she likes me now too."

What do you say?

>>24357178
"of course she dose" more pictures.

>>24357178
"How could she not? You're great. Now get in here and pose with Selene."

Or something along those lines.

>>24357178
>evasively
> not making eye contact
Are we sure she's not hiding something?

>>24357281
Well, it would be a bit much to push her on it further right now.

>>24357065
Selene is wearing her human disguise charm right now. And even if she wasnt, mom can just say that you guys played with photoshop or something and the Selene wanted those ones on the fridge, too.

>>24357178
Get some photos with Liz and Selene, then get Liz to take some of Max and Selene.

>>24357068
Thats just part of working life, especially something as stressful as being a nurse.

>>24357296
I thought it was a charm that invoked a sense of normalcy, not a disguise?

I'm not sure if that sense of normalcy would carry over into a photo.

>>24357281
I think she finds it embarrassing and she is a little envious of us given he child abuse.
>>24357296
Selene's disguise charm is enchantment based I'm not sure it will work on cameras.

>>24357281
We could ask her about it later when we get back to the tower.

>>24357281
Seemed more like she was just embarrassed.

>>24357281
Just keep in mind we'll be in her place when we visit her parent.

>>24357432
Max's visit to Liz's house is going to be ten times as awkward as this.

>>24357563
We will be lucky if it is that good

>>24357563
>>24357586
not if we go in blasting happiness field

>>24357600
Let's try to resolve Liz's family issues without resorting to mind altering magics straight away.

We'll make that plan b.

>>24357600
Liz' mom is a magic user too, right? If she is, she might have her own mind shields up.

>>24357607
And what this guy said.

Besides. Not having her family like us wouldn't be that bad.

>>24357616
I don't think it was ever said that Liz's family were magic users. I think Scholomance archmages just use some sort of magic to figure out the most hopeful students each year to offer places to. For obvious reasons a lot of those chosen are in some way supernatural or raised around magic, but I don't think it's a requirement.

>>24357616
>Liz' mom is a magic user too, right? If she is, she might have her own mind shields up.
nope, Liz is the only magic in her family.

"Of course she does," you tell her, giving her a smooch. "You're fantastic. Now, go pose with Selene and I'll take pictures of you two."

She heads off and does a couple minutes of posing and pictures with Selene, then the two of you switch and she takes pictures of you with your daughter. Eventually, your mom leaves her room, dressed in scrubs covered in fake blood. "Tada!" she says. You recognize them as her old scrubs, refurbished into a costume. "You ready to go?"

What do you do?

>>24357637
>>24357633
>MFW she is Hermione

>>24357616
>Liz' mom is a magic user too, right?

What the fuck, no she isn't.

I'm just done going through the archive for this quest. It was a fun read.

>>24357616
>Liz' mom is a magic user too, right? If she is, she might have her own mind shields up.
I don't think so
>>24357607
How about we make the Max X Liz X Liz's Mom fapfic Plan B and emotion manipulation Plan C

>>24357643
Let's gooooo.

We need to check if the candy is safe for Selene, right? How do we know if it's safe?

>>24357607
yep
>>24357643
"I think it's time to go trick-or_treating with my 3 favorite girls."

>>24357643
Let's go

>>24357643
Yes.

>>24357643
Time to go trick or treating.

>>24357643
grab a pillow case for us to hold and a pale for Selene empty it into the bag ever block or so, people give you more candy if it looks like you don't have much.

"yep, how about you Selene?"

>>24357648
only is Hermione was a sub and sadist

>>24357693
Maybe they just skipped those bits in the books.

>>24357693
I think Hermione was a sub and sadist it just got glossed over in the book.
She seemed the type anyway.

>>24357693
>>24357716
She did marry Ron, so she was at least a masochist.

>>24357734
I can easily picture Hermione bending Ron over her desk in the ministry with a magical strapon.

>>24357982
Oh god so can I now

and then Ron does his little whimpering thing and when it's finished he just breathlessly says "bloody hell".

Goddamnit this is how fanfiction gets started isn't it? I promised myself I would never do that!

"Absolutely," you say, heading into your room to grab a pillow case. "Let's go."

The four of you head out through your old neighborhood, trick-or-treating from apartment to apartment and at that shops that are participating. Selene bounds along ahead of you until you scold her and make her follow along so she doesn't get lost. Every dozen stops or so you have her empty her bucket into the pillow case, and she quickly comes to accept that she's not going to get any of that candy back until you've looked through it all. She's showing off her costume constantly, and nobody seems to be picking up on the fact that she looks odd - which is exactly as you intended - and she seems quite comfortable, if a bit in awe of the big open spaces. She comments a few times on the smell, though, of exhaust.

You, Liz, and your mother follow closely behind. You get caught up on the latest gossip from your mother's work. Liz answers all the questions your mom has about her - you would almost think it was an interrogation were it not for the smiles and the more-relaxed atmosphere.

The night starts winding down around eight, and you all head back to the apartment. You toss the candy bag up on the table and sit down to relax. Selene, through grabs the bag and brings it over to you.

"Please help sort it, mama!" she says eagerly. "I wanna try some!"

What do you do?

>>24358094
Sort it.

>>24358094
Do it?

>>24358094
Sort it

As a side note, as far as you know, she doesn't enjoy any non-meat/non-blood food. Her diet is mostly meat, water, and fertilizer.

>>24358094
Check the candy, then let her try some.

If she likes it, great, if not, be sure to tell her she can trade it in for some delicious meat snacks later.

>>24358127
Didn't we bring some?

>>24358094
check it all over look for rips or openings, check seams to see if any thing was opened and resealed.

then let her try some when she doesn't like it have liz help us grab some bacon and hamburger brown it and alchemist it into jerky salami exct....

"mommy will fix the taste for you " hell lets do this before we give her any jus put some off to the side for our selves.

>>24358145
I have no idea, it all got a bit confusing towards the end of the last thread.

>>24358127
Or we could alchemy a good volume into well prepared jerky and bacon.

So hey, when was the last time we ever got an update on Liz and Lin's sheets?

>>24358094
Get some help from Liz. I'd have suggested

>>24358125
look at any jerky or weird candy like bug pops and baked meal-worms first let her have then if they look factory sealed.

Then something gummy and high in gelatin.

>>24358175
asking mom too, but she must be tired enough as is.

>>24358166
I thought we did, but if we didn't we're a terrible mother.

Find one that look ok, give it to Selene. See if she likes it (Then proceed with sorting).

>>24358216
I'm fairly certain the plan was always just to use alchemy if she didn't like it.

It's gonna be so sad when she finds out she can't actually eat any of it.

>>24358216
The plan was to transmute any candy she didn't like so she gets the thrill of earning it.
Do you even into trick or treat?

>>24358275
gummy bears and the like are like 80% gelatin which is animal fat and connective tissue. most candy corn is between 20% and 80% gelatin with between 20% & 80% bees wax.
Twizzlers uses gelatin in there Licorice.

I just realized we don't really know how one goes about learning magic for the first time.

I know we expect Selene to have a propensity towards Enchantment (I think?), but she's too young to do magic on her own, right? Is there some minimum age before someone can start learning it?

Does she have any boxes of magic, but is unable to access them yet? How does magic manifest itself in people for the first time?

So um, while we're waiting for Fem, who else has considered taking the remains of Liz's ceramic spirit forge and adding it to the fertilizer for the third dryad?

>>24358750
She's already done magic. We had to teach her the sensory spell to use Fap to see.

>>24358750
>I know we expect Selene to have a propensity towards Enchantment (I think?), but she's too young to do magic on her own, right?
we already taught her some magic, enchantment that lets her see

>>24358755
So the dryad can make spirits stronger if they put them inside of her?
Snapple, we don't want our daughter to be a whore!

>>24358755
that doesn't make any sense

>>24358768
>>24358772
I was confused if she was just accessing a spell we had cast on Fap, but I remembered we designed the spell for the user and all Fap is a big ol' eyeball.

Carry on then.

>>24358820
It's a magical item that accelerates the maturation process of spirits.

Maybe she'll just hatch faster.

Maybe she'll learn magic faster.

>>24358839
>lets not use experimental magic on our daughter.

>>24358874
this, exactly.

>>24358874
We already did with Selene. No idea what vampire heart or incubus jizz would do when we first used them on her.

And if something goes wrong then we have an interesting problem solving adventure, like making Fap.

>>24358839
Dryads already grow up pretty fast... With our luck, we'd end up with a daughter with a life expectancy of a year or so.

>>24358839
if that's what you want, then the answer is different. we make the spirit forge like liz wanted to make around the whole garden.

>>24358916
Then again, is a dryad a spirit? I don't think they would exactly fit into the "spirit" definition necessary to work in the spirit forge.

>>24358916
Do we have a proper garden, or it is just our dryad and nothing aroung ?

>>24358902
What if it makes her mature too fast, and she dies in a month?

>>24358947
That's highly unlikely.
>Liz said the forge would have reduced effects on more advanced spirits
>We're using the remains of the prototype

And even if it does, then we have a month to fix it.

>>24358975
So it does nothing, and nothing happens?
And what if we have a big project due at the end of the month?

>>24359013
If it does nothing at all then we've wasted 30 seconds of effort spent smashing some broken ceramics and putting them into dirt.

If we have a project due simultaneously, we will deal with it. We didn't devote the entire week to the emotion field. And we don't have to pass *everything*. Dane fails stuff on purpose sometimes to throw people off.

>>24358902
Thats not experimental magic, thats experimental fertilizer. We know for a fact magic fertilizer wont kill some-

You know what, no. Fuck you, I aint be doing with this. Keep your fucking retarded comments in your pocket you derailing little fucktard, we both know you are just doing this for the attention.

>>24358940
Yah, we should get some seeds or something and start the garden if we haven't already

>>24359064
Not in the first year when being at the top part of the class is actually beneficial. I mean, we've only been attacked once, and that was a pre-emptive strike on Lunch's part when she thought we were going to attack her base.

Anyway, your suggestions retarded. I'm voting no.

Fem has internet problems again?

Ok, so y'all don't like the idea of ground up spirit forge as fertilizer.

So what about some Psilocybin mushrooms? Ad some weed too, maybe a little cocaine, and we have a walking party / garden for enchantment foci.

Lin would love her. Some cute Lin-Dryad interactions would be nice.

>>24359162
and or diner and or researching what candy's have high gelatin content.

>>24359242
No.

>>24359242
I vote we grow edible plants instead.

>>24359242
Lets just grind up Lin and use her to fertilize the dryad. That way, she will be an immortal slut and we can just find toddler Lin a few years down the road, mind drill her, and then have some delicious loli slut action.

>>24359242
I honestly thought this wasn't snapple at first.
I don't know why,I just expected him to put more thought into his retarded ideas.

>>24359336
Not retarded. If Sizi is planted in soil full of drugs, then her leaves would all make easy enchantment foci.

Also, if Wendi bites her on the eventual playdate, then she'll get high as fuck. Wendigo dryad on cocaine, who doesn't want to see that?

>>24359336
to be fair there isn't a lot one can do with the dryad ingredients that hasn't already been said

>>24359372

i opt to stay away from the wendigo dryad.

shits scary yo.

>>24359242
Cute interactions no.
Lin licking the top of her head for hours on end until she starts foaming at the mouth, yes.

>>24359372
Wendi would be full grown before they even have a chance for playdates, but you already knew that you faggot.

>>24359496
They can still have a playdate!

I hope anybody who defended Snapple in the past now realizes how fucking stupid they were.

>>24359525
Honestly? He (usually) only gets like this when Fem is gone for a while and he wants attention.

He's quite a needy little slut.

>>24359525
You'd think by now you could tell a joke from a serious idea, the Snapple hate crowd certainly can't seem to. Is there a particular reason for your lack of an ability to laugh at what's obviously a joke?

>>24359626
Because laughing at jokes has made Max do incredibly retarded things before? Granted, we have a common sense filter now, but the damage is still there.

>>24359653
If by "laughing at jokes" you mean posting

this

>>24359653
>damage
Nothing bad happened.
With the bell dicking we felt stupid and had sore balls. Carl didn't give a shit.

With the jizzcream we had to say "sorry I promise to not do it again" to Dane.

The only bad thing that happened it it put a stick up everyone's collective asses.

>>24359626
Because he honestly defends them and shits up the thread and would have us legitimately employ them if he had his way. If it was -just- a joke, he wouldn't have spent the last half of the thread defending his fucktarded idea with even more fucktarded logic.

And it has less to do with whether or not I think he is serious and more of I am sick of him derailing the threads every five fucking seconds with his next LOLSORANDUMB idea to spam.

>>24359653
And the common sense filter will prevent any future damage. The only thing sillier than Snapple and his ideas are the dozens if butthurt posts that follows it.

Seriously, I got a good laugh out of Lin licking a drug-dryad to get high, but its a joke and nothing more.

>>24359701
Bitching about lolsorandumb in a setting with the main appeal being unlimited magical freedom is retarded.

It's like bitching about there being too much water in Atlantis Quest.

>>24359768
You almost finally got me with that one.

>>24359768
>Bitching about lolsorandumb in a setting with the main appeal being unlimited magical freedom is retarded.

1) We do not have unlimited magical freedom.
2) "lolsorandumb" is called like that for a reason.

>>24359815
>1) We do not have unlimited magical freedom.
Yes we do.
>2) "lolsorandumb" is called like that for a reason.
I was using the term to illustrate the irony of calling it such in this setting.

>>24359768
Well we could try to stop doing lolrandum for a second and try to have character development. For instance we have this whole Liz childhood to take care of.

>>24359701
If people would stop arguing with him so much and just laugh it off and ignore it how would he be able to derail the thread? Half of his ammunition is posts like yours.

>>24359856
Femcock has a common sense filter in place now. Snapple will be ignored, don't worry about arguing with him.

>>24359768
its the paranoia not the magic that is the key feature of schoolomance.

>>24359871
She isn't ignoring him though.

She spent the first hundred or so posts talking about TK arms with him on Thursday.

>>24359860
>>24359871
Yeah, just ignore the tripfag, he has no effect in the quest with the new rules.

>>24359860
I DO fucking ignore him, but then other people fucking bait him on and the thread gets shit up regardless. Im not asking Snapple to change because you fucks are not giving him any reason to be less of an attention whore, Im asking all of you fucks to stop feeding the fucking troll.

You sigh, take the bag, and start sorting through the candy. You put aside anything made out of mostly sugar and anything chocolate. You're left mostly with gumdrops and gummy bears as possible ones. "Here, sweetie," you tell her. "Go ahead and try these. I'm going to trade these ones over here for ones you might like better."

"Okay," says Selene with a smile, then takes a bite of the gummy candy. She spits it out almost immediately, her foot-long tongue hanging all the way out of her mouth. "It's bad, mama."

You guess she just doesn't really like anything too sweet.

"Oh, it's okay, honey," you tell her. Your mom pats her back and gives you a questioning look. "Meat is better for you. We'll trade those for some nice treats."

Do you transmute them into meat treats or trade them for hand-cooked meat treats?

>>24359910
You are way too analdevastated right now.

>>24359933
Trade.

>>24359940
What a wonderful rebuttal, shitposter.

>>24359933
Hand cooked meat treats.

How much have we told mom about Selene? We should probably let her actually see Selene without her normalcy field on her when we get back to the apartment.

>>24359933
Transmute? Would be kind of fun to show mom.

>>24359933
Do we need to transmute them one by one or do we only need to roll once for all of them?

I say we should transmute them into bacon flavored treats.

>>24359933
transmute, ask for her help.

>>24359933
Let's cook her up some treats and try transmuting a few of them for the sake of practicing some transmutation.

>>24359904
But he does have an effect since he will constantly argue about why his ideas arent lolsorandumb and then bog the thread down with his arguments or his bitching when people try to ignore him

>>24359992
The thing is, even if we transmute them, we don't know if Selene's digestion works differently, she might get very sick if she eats things which aren't actually meat.

Rolled 10

>>24359933
hand-cooked treats

>>24359933
trans mute get Liz to help, we got the transmutation foci right

grab some meats, and salt, some sugar, a jar full of pickling solution as temp fioci


also make a small pile of some for us too befor we change them.

>>24359933
Hand cook 'em.

>>24359933

hand cooked.

>also, seriously, stop arguing, you're going to drive Femcock away again.

>>24359979
yes and if we transmute them Selene still gets the candy she worked hard to get her self.

>>24359933
>hand-cooked meat treats?

>>24360015
But it will actually be meat. Its all about molecular rearrangement.

>>24360065
>It may be a spiritual essence thing though.

>>24360090
Ah yes, just like how a tiger only eats meat because he needs its spiritual essence.

>>24360090
Thats fucking retarded, its about edibility, not the lifesoul of beef jerky.

>>24360090
>"Behold, Liz, for I have unlocked the spiritual essence of bacon!"

>>24360113
tigers aren't spirits

>>24359933
Liz and mom can hand cook her a few while we transmute a couple and have her test to see if purely transmuted food is safe for her.

Also mom should see her without the charm at some point at home.

>>24360113
Cats, which are also carnivorae, will happily eat catfood that's in large part rice. Tigers probably will too, although I don't know off-hand never having raised one. Selene doesn't.

>>24360132
Are vampires?

>>24360147
not sure, but dryads are

>>24360113
>>24360125
>>24360129
Magic is real. Normal dryads don't eat anything but water plant-food and light.
see also >>24360139

>>24360147
at leas partly like Max and >>24360162

>>24360162
Meat eating is a trait she inherited from her vampire parent, not one inherent to dryads.

Why can't we do both? Transmute some of the candy to meat while mom makes some meat treats.

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>arguing about whether or not Selene will be sustained by transmuted beef jerky because it might not have a soul
I'm still blaming this one on you, Snapple.

>>24360198
>not one inherent to dryads.
I'd argue that it is. simply because it's a dryad trait to change based on their fertilizer

>>24360221
I don't see why not either, but if we have to pick one I still like trade more.

>>24360228
Actually wasn't me this time.

I'm just sitting here laughing my ass off because I'd have never thought to bring up meat souls.

Can we all agree to try some of both? There's no reason not to.

>>24360275
Yeah let's do both.

>>24360273
You still bring the IQ of the entire thread down by tens of points

>>24360221
>>24360275
Yeah, if selene doesn't like the meat candy, big deal, she can eat granny's homemade food.

Might as well try to transmute them.

>>24360303
That's just what happens when people interact with an inherently superior being.

You can't fault people for getting stupid in my presence.

"Could you help cook something for her?" you ask your mom. "I'm going to try to make some with magic, but I'm not sure how good it will be."

"Sure thing, sweetie," she tells you, grabbing Liz on the way to help her cook.

You put a handful of candies in the center of the table. You get a little lump of meat, some salt, and a bit of fertilizer for your mom's windowbox garden. Selene climbs up to watch you work.

Roll Alchemy to try to fabricate Selene some meat candies. You get a +3 from temporary foci. I'll consider the first six linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 48

>>24360666
>666 on the halloween candy post
>Devilsnacks

Rolled 20

>>24360666
Rolling

Rolled 18

>>24360666
dice hate us

Rolled 9

>>24360666
MEAT CANDY

Rolled 42

>>24360666
rollan

Rolled 30

>>24360666
we're 0 for 4

Rolled 74

>>24360666
>nat 1
>somehow alchemy up a monster
>1s for the 1 throne

>>24360666

>>24360680
>>24360690
>>24360712
>>24360716
>>24360729
>>24360731
Wow.

>>24360680
>>24360690
>>24360712
>>24360716
>>24360729
>>24360731
Goddamn it.

>>24360733
Hah. Roll 6, no success. 7th roll succeeds.

>>24360733
Of course. Lucky number seven.

Rolled 82

>>24360731
correction 0/6 and the dice taunt us >>24360733

>>24360680
>>24360690
>>24360712
>>24360716
>>24360729
>>24360731

i was right, they taste really bad.

>or we just turn them in to ash like always... still tastes bad.

>>24360666

>666
feels kinda ominous...

Rolled 9

>>24360737
>>24360746
>>24360749
>>24360762
>>24360769
at least we didn't go negative

>>24360362
It's like staring into the sun!

>>24360362
>inherently superior
I will concede that your ability to turn a thread to shit with your aura of massive retardation if fucking stupendous.

What would you guys think of an augment that allowed us to take more damage before deadification?

Right now, we can take 3 boxes of damage and live. What if we got something like +fortitude / +life / +hp /+(word for take more hits) so that we don't drop as fast.

We could do the same thing for mental too.

Bet this would be doable since Lotus augs work by manipulating life force.

>>24361157
The word is "durability".

>>24361176
Durability adds rolls to prevent taking damage

I want to add more boxes of hp to absorb damage we take.

>>24360680
>>24360690
>>24360712
>>24360716
>>24360729
>>24360731
The foci turn to ash and, well, nothing happens. Selene stares up at you, her little lip trembling, as your mother and Liz start getting to work cooking. You used your mundane transmutation strain mitigation focus, so you could try again if you want to.

Do you try again or just wait for Liz and your mother to be done?

>>24361185
Toughness?
Resolve?
Steeliness?
Hardness?
Resilience?

Build quality?

In this context most of these probably mean almost the same thing, though.

>>24361185
You need to increase Body for that. Anything else are damage-mitigating augments like Durability and Shield.

>>24361222
Try again. We will not let Selene get sad on Halloween!

>>24361222
Once more, with passion!

Don't want to disappoint our little girl.

>>24361222
let her taste the local fertiliser.

>>24361222
AGAIN

>>24361222
Try again

>>24361241
And once we get 5 body? Absolutely nothing to allow higher damage absorption?

>>24361270
Maybe only if we change our physical make-up. Seems like everything after that is, "Good luck, I'm behind 7000 wards!"

>>24361222
TRY AGAIN DAMMIT.

>>24361290
Speaking of 7000 wards...
Well, I have an awesome personal ward plan.

>Use living alchemy to weave gold veins in warding patterns into our skeletal system
>Jack a supermassive blackhole from nearby galexy (lolconjuration)
>Contain it in buff as fuck pocket dimension (lolconjuration)
>Set up sorcerous conversion mechanism to convert gravity into a fuel suitable to power wards
>Power gold bonewards with the black hole.

Good luck doing shit against that.

>>24361241
why cant that be an augment? you said that lotus does life energy manipulation so taking more hits sounds like something they could do

>>24361341
Save it for the post-Quest-epilogue doublEpilogue and maybe it'll be in the realm of feasibility?

Also, pretty sure wards don't run off of x-rays. Not yet, anyways.

>>24361222
try again ask for liz to give a hand

>>24361388
Sorcery. We can power anything with anything.

>>24361341
>use our two worst stats to jam a massively destructive force into our body
This seems unwise to me. I think anything where failing a single roll would result in our utter destruction is a bad plan.

>>24361410
True. Still, likely not achieveable now, or even ever in this quest. As much as I like the idea for bombastic, space-operatic reasons, there's no use worrying about it right now.

Sorry if this is unduly distracting, Milady.

You ruffle your little girl's petals and try once more, with passion.

Roll Alchemy. You get a +3 from temporary foci. I'll consider the first six linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 3

>>24361472

Rolled 58

>>24361472
This is all your fault, Snapple.

Rolled 46

>>24361472
>ones for the one throne

Rolled 2

>>24361472
why even try the dice hate us

Rolled 51

>>24361472

Rolled 13

>>24361472
Snake eyes!

Rolled 86

>>24361472
Rolling

Rolled 93

>>24361508
again with the 7th roll

>>24361477
>>24361479
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>>24361498
>>24361500
>>24361502
WHYYYY

>>24361477
>>24361479
>>24361484
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>>24361500
>>24361502

We must commit sudoko.

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>>24361508
>Roll 7 on a 6 roll action is the only success.
>Again.

We need a new trait. Like, "anti-candy aura."

>>24361447
Especially if the "our" in this case extends to everything that lives in the solar system.

But speaking of large-scale magical destruction, does it seem likely to anyone else that either a large amount of the natural disasters the mundane world experiences is caused by mages, or that there is some kind of organization monitoring all mages at all times? It's just far too likely for a mage to just kind of snap and nuke a city.

>>24361479
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ZoHqE3R8g

It's like my themesong or something.

Also, hahaha Selene's going to cry now.

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>These rolls

Rolled 79

>>24361586
I blame the new rolling rules and the dice limit

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>>24361508

We can always try again, just with even less rolls.

>>24361634
>mfw we critfail and turn Selene into candy

>>24361644
At least she wont be crying anymore.

>>24361644
You forgot your pic

>>24361662
And we will be back down to only one dickgirl dryad.

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>>24361663
And so did I >_>

>>24361634
Might as well. We're just gonna take out our frustration on the meals when we get back.

>>24361938
When we get back let's make another mundane transmutation focus and a few skill boosting ones to go with them.

>>24361970
Strain*

The first one should be a strain focus.

>>24361976
Clearly we need to make a few focii dedicated soley to transmuting candy into meat

>>24361477
>>24361479
>>24361484
>>24361498
>>24361500
>>24361502
You fail once again to transform the candy into a more palatable form. The meats being cooked in the kitchen look to be about half-way done, but Selene looks on the verge of tears. Her little lip is trembling.

What do you do?

>>24362003
ONCE MORE, WITH EFFORT

>>24362003
How many dice would we get on another try? If we can try again, that is.

>>24362003
That candy is turning into meat if it kills us.

inb4 all fails and the very next roll is a 100

>>24362003
First, give Selene some huggles, snuggles, kisses, and so on, tell her that sometimes things take longer than you expect them too.

Then try again, may the dice have mercy on our soul.

>>24362003
tell her that magic doesn't always work. Then have her try it will be good alchemy practice for her.

>>24362012
3

>>24362029
Six ones followed by a hundred

>>24362012
4
i miscounted
>>24362048

Guys. Hey guys.

If we get too much strain now it will interfere with us making a superbow later tonight.

Hear that guys? Superbow.

>>24362074
Meat for our daughter is important, we can always to the SUPERBOW later, and we can fuck Breakfast until we get the Strain back later anyways.

>>24362074
Doesn't need to be tonight.

>>24362074
We are going out partying after we put Selene to bed, if we do make the Superbow tonight, it will be in the early hours of the morning, by which time our strain will have faded.

>>24362003
KEEP GOIN TILL WE GET IT DONE

>>24362074
Making meat-candy for our daughter is much more important than superbow.
And more importantly, superbow isn't time critical

>>24362074
I'd like to talk to the Lotus Bowmaster first before we go and make something completely useless and or retarded.

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>>24362074
>Anything
>More important than Selene

>>24362003
Laugh and make it not seem like a big deal. Nothing to get upset over.

Call Selene "Ping" and jokingly tell her that even the mightiest warrors, like you and I, sometimes need some help.

Then we can steal Selene a half-cooked tidbit right out of a pan while distracting Mom or Liz with a hug (in liz's case, also a grope if we are super subtle). She likes raw well enough and some mere heat should not be a huge problem for us.

No more magical fuckup And we teach an important lesson or something.

>>24362131
Yeah, it'll be a good "magic isn't always the best way" lesson for Selene. And frankly, Max too.

Despite the frankly ridiculous odds against failure.

>>24362162
Let's see... Anything below a 70 is a failure, with 14 rolls... (69/100)^14 = 0.55%. Eh, thought it would be lower.

>>24362003
"I'm sorry sweety, magic doesn't always work out, let me try one more time. If this doesn't work, we'll have to just eat Grandma's treats."

>>24362121
Now that is a knoife

>>24362074
I read this like ten times wondering why we were so hype about football.

Have you and Selene join mom in manually cooking meat treats, its more fun for a child and less disappointing.

"I'm sorry, sweetie," you tell her. "Magic doesn't always work. Let's try it just one more time, then if that doesn't work, you can have some treats from grandma. Does that sound good?"

She nods slowly, sniffs, then gives you a cautious smile.

Roll Alchemy one last time. You get a +2 from temporary foci. I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 48

>>24362747

Rolled 18

>>24362747
Critical mass of fuckup imminent

Rolled 15

>>24362747
work

Rolled 43

>>24362747
All aboard the failtrain.

Rolled 82

>>24362747

Rolled 72

>>24362747
rolling

>>24362764
>>24362765
>>24362770
>>24362772
Oh common

>>24362756
>>24362760
>>24362764
>>24362765

Dice gods, you will rue the day.

>>24362770
Fuck everything.

>>24362756
>>24362760
>>24362764
>>24362765
Well then, we have now spent over two hours making failed rolls to alchemize meat.

CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON THIS IS BORING AS FUCK.

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>>24362770
>three times in a row

>>24362756
>>24362760
>>24362764
>>24362765
and the dice make a small vowel movment and transform into dicks

>>24362770
>>24362772
the dice are trolling us

The odds of rolling below 69 on sixteen consecutive d100 rolls is 0.26%.

>>24362848
Er, 69 or below.

>>24362162
>Yeah, it'll be a good "magic isn't always the best way" lesson for Selene. And frankly, Max too.
And I hope max learned a good lesson here. It was stupid to try to use magic for this when there is a perfectly functional frying pan nearby.

>>24362792
I agree. It's been slow and we've got literally nothing done so far.

We had a literally 0.26% chance of failing 16 rolls in a row like this, it's stupid.

If we're in a completely non stressful situation without really any penalty for failure and it not being an important task can we just count as getting 1 success for every 3-4 dice we're throwing at it, just to speed things up. The only thing that has happened in the last 2.5 hours is us failing at simple boring stuff.

>>24362792
More like 8 hours spent doing absolutely nothing.

>>24362865
hate to say it, but i agree

>>24362765
>>24362770
This is fucking stupid. I'm out.

>>24362865
It'll be nice to have Max's mom save the day. I have no issues with the outcome.

>>24362792
>Well then, we have now spent over two hours making failed rolls to alchemize meat.
Actually this is an excellent point, how long does it take per attempt?
I was told before it takes a min of 1 hour (and that is excluding foci collection) to make an alchemy attempt in creating a foci. There is no way it took more then 1 hour for mom and liz to cook some treats. So what gives?
The only possibility is that mundane alchemy takes a lot less time.

>>24362943
He meant IRL.

Can we ward up now ?

>>24362865
The lesson to be learned from this is that /tg/ dice are fucking absurd, not something about how using magic for this is wasteful. It was a perfectly fine idea to try, but the dice like fucking us.

>>24362747
well, now that we fucked up again, promise to get her something extra special later before going into the kitchen for what mom cooked.

>>24362962
No, we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO ROLL FOR EVERYTHING, NO MATTER HOW STUPID, otherwise bad things will happen, I guess?

>>24362900
1% chance of -1
1% chance of +2
cancel each other out
69% chance of 0
29% chance of 1
on average we get 0.29 "points" of success per die rolled.
on 4 rolls that's an average of 1.16 successes

I am pretty sure the 0.26% figure is wrong, this is a dice pool counting successes not a lottery where all numbers must match an exact specific figure.

>>24362943
>mundane transmutation
doesn't take an hour
focus crafting and each step in making magic items dose
4 sets is only a magic number for magic crafting and possibly bindings and summonings.

>>24362900
this. Also, FemCOCK, I am not sure you are having any fun in writing these uneventful passages.

>>24362998
lrn2 probabilities

>>24362998
You can't into probability, can you?

for fuck sake can we get this shit going fem, your taking forfucking ever for a simple ""whoops i fucked up again maybe this time it will work" roll a-fucking-gain nerds" type post.

>>24362998
Argh, no.

If you have 30% success to succeed with one roll, you only have 30%+(70%*30%) chance to succeed with two. More rolls give diminishing returns.

>>24362998
To clarify, the probability of the union of two independent events is the product of their individual probabilities. In this way, the probability of n events with each probability p occuring is p^n. In this case, p is 69 faces of the die out of 100 possible, or 69/100, assuming each is equally likely. So the total probability of 16 dice with not a single success is (69/100)^16.

>>24363025
>implying she isnt enjoying torturing us by making Selene cry.

>>24362998
.69^16=.00264, the chance of every single die rolling a 69 or below is .264%, MATH!

And your numbers are off, it'd 30% chance of 1, 1% chance of 2, 68% chance of 0, 1% chance of -1, it works out to an average of .31 successes per die rolled.

I could pull out binomial probability to get the chances of different number of successes, but that'd take time.

>>24362998
I made an error
1% chance of -1
1% chance of +2
don't cancel out they add up to 1% chance of +1
Aka, you have 30% chance of success per dice note 29% (after factoring crit fail and crit success)
So average number of successes to be expected from 4 dice rolls is 1.2 successes.

>>24363069
Thats the probability of getting 1 single success.
I counted the average number of successes you get per die. Do recall that in most of what we do we aren't after a specific number of successes, rather, the more successes the better we do.

Can someone just post that graph that got made a million threads ago?

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>>24362998
>1% chance of -1
>1% chance of +2
>cancel each other out
that is not exactly correct though it is an ok fast abstraction.

Here our our odds for signal tests which is approximately like rolling in sequence but not exactly.

>>24363127
You're still wrong, it's 31%.

>>24363157
Hey, cool, someone did the Binomial Distribution stuff for me.

>>24363127
Dude, just stop embarassing yourself. You don't aren't following the topic, you don't have the background in maths to make sense of the content of the discussion.

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>>24363157
>>24363148
was having trouble on my end

>>24363116
>30% chance of 1, 1% chance of 2, 68% chance of 0, 1% chance of -1
you just double counted a roll of 100 on both of these. but only counted a roll of 1 once. This is inconsistent.
0.332% to get 0 successes on 16 dice... ok that is pretty fucked up.

>>24363157
Graph is right

>>24363069
>>24363100
>>24363116
>>24363127
>>24363157
>>24363169
>>24363178
>Implying raw probability works on a time-seeded RNG with known odd behavior.

So rather than stating over and over again that /tg/ dice are broken and that our rolling frequently falls outside the realms of normal probability -

maybe we could discuss what to actually *do* about it?

>>24363212
I think people are saying how fucking absurdly skewed /tg/dice are against standard probability. Even a shitty set of Chessex second-hand rejects performs more reasonably that /tg/dice.

>>24363209
You're an idiot. I counted 100 once. 70-100 consists of 31 different numbers, count them yourself.

>>24363212
Oh god, not this again. You act like seeding a RNG cause clustering. It's not like 12:01:01 and 12:01:02 are gonna give adjacent numbers on the dice.

You are as bad as this TT dude as probability.

>>24363229
We will once we get our next post. People are chattering to kill time while waiting for the next post. Fem is obviously having internet difficulties today.

>>24363245
If seeding doesn't influence the outcome of the RNG, then why bother seeding? It obviously affects the system.