>>24344063
Maybe come up with a name for the water elemental?
It's about time we named it.

>>24344063
Study sorcery

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>>24344063
work on the mind drill to selective restore the meals memories

>>24344063
copied from previous thread
>>>24343914
Could we create a mind drill variant that extracts memories from the soul of a target without resorting them to their owner? Because that could be seriously useful for future interrogations.

Also, make some meat treats for Selene.

>>24344063
Mind drill

>>24344086
!Snapple9vc

What the fuck, man.

>>24344063
Let's relieve some Strain with Breakfast, and then we can either go out and get a pile of tasty meat for Selene to trade for her Candy, or we can Alchemy it up, either way we should Drain some because we want to be in good shape if we end up going out.

>>24344100
this is the only way I would support using the mind drill on the meals

It seems like naming the elemental is no one's priority, so I'm gonna switch my vote to >>24344119

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance

The previous thread is now archived. Remember to vote it up.

>>24344100
>>24344112
That's a longterm research project, right now we have plans for the evening that we should take care of before we get sucked into a project like that.

Either >>24344119
or just go out for the meat treats now.

>>24344087
second

>>24344100
>>24344127
We could set it up so that the memories go into a construct with an artificial mind rather than the meals directly

>>24344073
Yeah, not totally buying it, but I suppose we could ask Lin since she should know.

>>24344086
Walter Colin Oscopy
Just Walter to his buddies.

>>24344145
I think that would be for the best

Get tutored in conjuration by dad and then make some strain mitigation foci tattoos for teleporting.
>perception filter
>Agreed, set it up to discourage the Meals from thinking of their pre-Meal lives.
I would think it is better so that it makes them rethink their old memories in a way that is positive to us.
>We could also set up a seed to shut down their magic or incapacitate them if the Meals ever try turning on us.
If we do our job right this should never occur... but I can't see the harm in having this as an extra in addition to other alterations. It would also help if someone mind controls them.

>>24344086
Oh fucking hell. There's another one.

>>24344145
I would prefer we just reduced the memories down to information (by which I mean stripping out any irrelevant sensory information and all emotional feedback) and transfer it to Max or dad.

>>24344168
I've been around for a while, buddy.

>>24344086
>named
Dihydragon monoxide

>>24344188
this

>wanting to name the dragon
Let's just cram it in Liz's new egg to be a super dragon. It will likely deserve a new name by the time it comes out again anyway.

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>>24344111
Sure. That's a ludicrously long-term project, just like anything that involves the mind drill, though. The mind drill was preposterously complex and specialized, designed around how Lin's reincarnation cycle already works. It's perfectly possible to adapt it into something, but it will be a long and hard process.

By comparison, the memory storage device is the easy part.

>>24344100
>>24344112
>>24344145
>>24344184
Something like this is a complicated research project, something we'll want a pile of spare time, and to be looking over it with Dad and Lin at the same time to create and finetune it, it doesn't seem like the sort of thing to do while killing some time before trick-or-treating, it seems like a good option for time-skipping instead of us sitting here rolling dice to develop it when we could be doing actual stuff.

>>24344063
Set up everything we need done for tonight's activities, meat snacks for Selene, asking Lin where we're partying afterwards, making sure our Mom knows we're coming to visit, complimenting our Pets on how good they look right now and draining a bit from Breakfast.

Rolled 86

>>24344238
Well then, you were saying we needed something truly impressive to boost our Enchantment any more. So that ought to do it.

>>24344154
true but that is all longer term.

>>24344063
double check our plans then tell Lin that we plan to take Liz and us are taking Selene to New York then after she is done Trick-or-treating Liz and us are going to go out with her. Find out her club plans then work on the drill.

>>24344184
That would prevent them regaining relevant magical skills which they could put to good use around the house.

So fart I have got the following SEPARATE mind seeds:
1. When trying to attack any of the masters, freeze, be unable to do magic, and state what you were trying to do (suggested originally as defense against rebellion but I like it because it helps against mind control too).
2. When recalling memories (not via drill, but whenever you THINK about the past), view such memories in a way that reinforces loyalty rather then degrade it (consult dad on specifics for that one).
3. Suppress or ignore the emotional component of memories from their life before being renamed by max.
4. Avoid noticing mind alterations by max, liz, or dad.
5. Avoid suspecting max of using magic to control them, their loyalty is natural.
6. If loyalty to max wanes, inform her, inform her why, and restore said loyalty automatically.
7. Do not have the desire to recover memories which aren't approved of by max.

In addition to that, regularly inspect their minds and do manual corrections as the drill does it job. With unwanted mind fragments being locked up rather then being destroyed (to avoid having the drill re-recover them).

In addition to all the above, you could have the drill put all memories into a special construct that is not fully self aware and is serving as a lockbox, which can then be perused by dad or max for memories to be manually reintegrated into their main consciousness if deemed appropriate.

>>24344278
We plan to be trick or treating until what, 10pm New York time? That would be 5am at the scholomance. Classes start at 8am right?

>>24344309
If you have the mind drill put all of the memories in the lockbox like you suggested at the end of your post then the rest is entirely pointless

>>24344309
This is bad as changes for normal operation but as precautions when using the mind drill on them i support this 100% except
>Suppress or ignore the emotional component of memories from their life before being renamed by max

>>24344309
Lunch still has all her magical skills. I'd rather we extracted the memories BEFORE we returned whichever ones we wanted to them.

It's not like we're desperate for Breakfast's help right now.

>>24344386
this

>>24344367
US trick or treating ends at like 8

and we only sleep 2 hours a night Liz is napping and Lin sleeps about as much as us.

>>24344386
Thirding.

So, what's the plan? Work on trying to lay the groundwork for an eventual project based on some of the principles of the mind drill? Study Sorcery? Make a crazy-strength bow? Something else entirely?

>>24344447
>Crazy-strength bow.

Yes, oh god yes!

>>24344447
>lay the groundwork for an eventual project based on some of the principles of the mind dril

>>24344447
Sorcery study. We can't make the bow yet with alchemy strain.

>>24344447
Sorcery

>>24344447
mind drill
I thought we started the ground work?

>>24344447
transmute drain focus
then crazy-strength bow

>>24344447
Bowtime, fuck yeah.

>>24344447

>>24344462
>>24344472
Seconding sorcery

>>24344456
>>24344474
>>24344483
>>24344488
Guys we have two boxes of alchemy strain.

>>24344447
Did we make the meat treats already?
If so I want max to craft some teleportation strain mitigation foci in his tattoos, she is far too dependent on others to teleport her places.

>>24344373
Their minds aren't static, even without the drill they grow and change. Remember when breakfast wanted us to be mistress?
When lunch wanted us to make love to her? How well will the changes already done be in 50 years?
Also, what harm does any of the seeds I mention do?
So far I got one person vetoing seed 3 (which was actually not even my own original suggestion but one of the seeds I included because someone else insisted)

>>24344386
I don't see any way shape or form it contradicting what I already suggested.

>>24344447
Bow. Might was well get our martial training prep out of the way. Also, don't forget Selene treats (next on my priority list).

>>24344492
>Guys we have two boxes of alchemy strain.
I was going to suggest having brunch to restore that first then. Neither of them is leaving the tower anytime soon.
But then it occured to me that dad needs their energy to teleport you there and back. So I am changing my vote to study sorcery.

>>24344462
Second

>>24344477
You did start. You have a long way to go still on said groundwork. This is a frankly enormous undertaking if designing it to work on someone whose mind and soul don't already do it automatically.

>>24344524
Two boxes of strain. We can only use one temp focus. One permanent.

That's only three rolls.

>>24344447
Sorcery I guess.

>>24344550
Not even. You don't have a permanent focus for this.

>>24344539
ok then lets defiantly keep at it we got too much strain to be much use ant anything else.

>>24344447
mind drill

>>24344559
Hear that guys? Two rolls.

You want to make the bow with only two rolls?

Sorcery.

>>24344559
well shit. changing from bow to sorcery study for a bit.

>>24344492
We can use a drain foci^2 for the transmutation drain focus
then that for crazy-strength bow

Hey fem dose casting a spell using a strain focus reset the time we need to recover?

>>24344586
>Changing vote
>anon
>didn't link original vote
did you erase previous post or do you want us to remove 1 from bow vote tally?

>>24344579
Fine. Go with studying sorcery. Or see if we can catch a bat/rat/whatever as a living alchemy test subject.

Okay, it's sounding like Sorcery study or Mind Drill pre-planning. Which?

>>24344648
Sorcery. That test is coming...

>>24344648
Sorcery

>>24344648
sorcery

>>24344648
sorcery study

>>24344648
Sorcery. Today's lesson taught us that we really need to prop up our weaker schools.

Sorcery and grab a tutor, since you have a 1 anyone in the tower could help... maybe your dad he can multitask like crazy.

>>24344648
sorcery

>>24344648
Sorcery!

And then when we make the bow we can use sorcery to increase its force

>>24344648
Sorcery.

>>24344648
Drill

>>24344648
drill we should study sorcery from some one who knows it like frenchey

>>24344648
Sorcery

BTW, for old thread archives you have been consistently missing omitting the link for thread 22.

Blatent Fetish Quest Archives:
General: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Blatant%20Fetish%20Quest
Thread #6 (VI): https://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/23072794/
Thread #22 (XXII): https://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/23219023/

>>24344648
we should really get some one to help with sorcery we wouldn't get far by our self so go for the drill

>>24344711
The wiki didn't have it either. I've fixed that now.

>>24344711
What? XXII is in the list in the archives already. Are you thinking of XXIII? Because that's mislabeled as a second XXIV.

>>24344700
>Study sorcery from an enemy whose studies we sabotaged
This is a really bad idea.
>>24344717
>we should really get help so go for the drill
or.... we could get help? the tower is full of people who can help.

Also, we should make a construct who is non intelligent built specifically for copying books, that way we could start building up a personal library and not worry about due dates (grab some general books on your own from library without bother librarian and have it copy them)

>>24344765
>>Study sorcery from an enemy whose studies we sabotaged
>This is a really bad idea.
Pierre is actually good at sorcery. Better than us.

We didn't sabotage his knowledge of sorcery and we already agreed to study it with him.

>>24344765
>Study sorcery from an enemy whose studies we sabotaged
He has a crush on us and thinks we're helping him
Also, we haven't actually sabotaged him, we're just planning to

You decide to study Sorcery. After all, you're pretty shit at it, and that mind drill project isn't going anywhere any time soon. You grab your intro textbook, climb up to the sitting room, and decide to spend a few hours reading.

Roll Mind to study Sorcery. You get a +2 from Focus, a +2 from Calm, and a +1 from Memory. I'll consider the first eight linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 31

>>24344796
>fail roll
>lose xp

Rolled 59

>>24344796

Rolled 75

>>24344796
nothing can go wrong

Rolled 9

>>24344796

Rolled 9

>>24344765
how is it a bad idea kid fucking loves and can't perceive us doing wrong?

>>24344796

Rolled 12

>>24344796

Rolled 77

>>24344796
>1
>you forget how to do sorcery

>>24344760
I figured it out.
It is the ONLY chapter omitted when you do "?searchall=Blatant+Fetish+Quest+" instead of "?tags=Blatant%20Fetish%20Quest"
It was my failure for using search by name rather then using the link you provided for the search by tag.

Rolled 72

>>24344796
1s for the 1 throne

Rolled 82

>>24344796
oh god

Rolled 78

>>24344796

>>24344824
>>24344822
>>24344811
Could be worse.

>>24344828
>>24344829
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>>24344822
>>24344824
You spend a few hours studying Sorcery and make a little progress towards learning more. When you finally set down your book, there's a little less than an hour before you're due in New York.

What do you do now?

>>24344786
>He has a crush on us and thinks we're helping him
Or he is a good actor... OR he was wrapped around our finger but had his mind inspected by an elder of the hand and is now laying a counter trap.
>we haven't actually sabotaged him, we're just planning to
We put a perception filter in him (not study sabotage)
We taught him how to detect auras properly (not sabotage, but espionage since we stole a hand secret)
We taught him "an old but classical" mind defense that has a fatal flaw (sabotage)

We are planning on making his balls produce female hormones (not study sabotage). Which btw is a terrible idea because its a well known fact that only lotus can perform such a feat, so if its caught it WILL be traced back to us and is bad for lotus. Furthermore it makes us lose a chance to steal more hand secrets. If we want to be rid of him we can go dane style and just break his mind defenses, steal knowledge, erase all his knowledge of magic and us, and make him drop out. But I am tempted to plant a few more seeds and keep him as a Hand plant to steal more of their secrets.

>>24344915
Wake Liz up and make her spiffy costume.

>>24344917
>Or he is a good actor
Nah, we pretty much aced our Sense Motive for that. Several times.

>>24344915
>dat sorcery

see if Liz and Selene are ready

>>24344915
Oh crud, get some taste meat recipes for Llunch to make (stuff Selene can exchange her candy for) while we're gone. Then get everyone prepped to go and call mom. Maybe try scrying her to make sure everything's safe before we port over.

>>24344915
Wake up Liz and gather everyone up

>>24344915
Crap, we still haven't made meat snacks for Selene. We should probably leave the meals to make that, if either of them is good at cooking.

>>24344962
fish, lamb, steaks, bison, deer all of them are damn good

>>24344962
>>24344982
>>24344983
This. Prepare delicious meatsnacks.

>>24344915
See how dad's spirit fishing trip went.

>>24344915
Wake everyone, get prepared, wear dresses, teleport to mom.

>>24344953
Meta knowledge, and yea I find it extremely unlikely but we can't take such risks and there is little benefit to it. He is good at it but a terrible student so he probably teaches poorly. Liz is a better tutor as are all the older lotus members.
Also, I am more concerned about my other point... an elder of the hand could have inspected him and found your mind virus and did their alterations to lay a counter trap.
Furthermore it would be a good way to lower his self esteem (we surpass him without needing his help) and to slow down his advances, plus do you want to put up with more of him?

>>24344962
I thought we already prepared the meat treats...

>>24344982
>>24344983
>>24344996
While it's a good idea, we can just do it as a treat exchange throughout the week. We did the studying so we'd recover strain because this:
>
"I'm going to need to upgrade the devil costume at this rate," she says, running her hands over your armor. You're disappointed that you can't really feel it. "Maybe you can 'smite' me later."
>>24342639

Oh shit... we forgot to fix our own angel costume so that our cock doesn't dangle visibly!

>>24345057
Banana Hammock. Problem solved.

>>24345057
It dangled because we put our leg up on something without wearing underwear

>>24345057
Banana hammock. We''re fine.

>>24345067
>>24345076
Only since we remembered in the last minute to actually wear one :)

>>24345034
I think Liz has probably already upgraded her tail or thought of a good reason not to by now. Also, cramming yourself full of candy then dealing with the inevitable fallout (or choosing not to) is a part of the Halloween rite of passage. Selene should have that opportunity and she only gets one shot at it.

>>24344962

>>24344983

just alchemy her candy into meat treats jerky, pastrami, capicola, salami, Corned beef, Head cheese, Liverwurst, Pepperoni, smoked meats

>>24344915
see if lin found a party to go to after we put Selene to bed

>>24345092
We made her a tailplug, our armor, then tired liz out to sleep.

>>24345112
And then we spent 6 hours studying...

>>24345029
if you fear an elder hand made him a sleeper why in hell do you suggest using him as a mole?

Plus we want him as a foci bitch hens we should seduce him and willingly make him our pet.

>>24345128
she plans to stay up all night she needs the sleep now.

>>24345200
>if you fear an elder hand made him a sleeper why in hell do you suggest using him as a mole?
Because the rewards (and admittedly risk too) of having a mole in hand are great (hand secrets), rewards of him tutoring us are nil because we can be tutored better by:
1. Allies in tower
2. Study group
3. Older lotuses

The only reason he is being tutored outside of his own society (which is extremely unusual) is that he is rather incompetent and is too embarrassed to show further incompetence.

>Plus we want him as a foci bitch
If that is really what you want then just tear into his mind, make him drop out, and then pick him up and brainwash him afterwards.
However, I am going to say that we have as much slaves as we can handle right now and he can't be fed on.

>>24345358
>he can't be fed on.
If we'd gotten ice dryad succubus juice from Sam then this would not be the case.

>>24344915
Wake everyone up, get ready to head out. Look at wearing a banana hammock underneath the leather skirt so we don't flash the Dextras when we go out.

>>24345358
He is still a mage and can help with sorcery or make foci

>>24345358
>rewards of him tutoring us are nil
Bull. His is better than anyone at home at sorcery including Liz and i bet he isn't terrible at teaching that subject. Plus having him tutor us may give us cool secrets that none else can give us because he may be a less capable teacher with more skills to teach then Liz.

>If that is really what
that is my ideal but I don't want to mind rape him for it i want to seduce him it is more moral and more fun.
Ideally he becomes our willing pet. Or we force a drop out.

So, what's the plan? Make meat-candies? Get everyone ready to go? Something else?

>>24345553
Get everyone ready to go

>>24345553
Get everyone ready to go

>I said several threads ago that Selene's ideal cookie was made out of bacon and ammonium nitrate
>and now we're finally going to make some
Vindication.

>>24345553
this>>24345564
>>24345573

>>24345553
>Make meat-candies?
Candy-Smoked Salmon

>>24345553
>Get everyone ready to go

>>24345553
>Get everyone ready to go

>>24345553
Get some Meat-Candies made, we can use Alchemy to make it quick, we don't want Selene to not get anything but candy she can't eat from this.

>>24345636
>we told her that the trade will be done when we get home no need to rush.

>>24345553
Meat-Candies.

>>24345553
Get everyone ready to go

>>24345636
>Alchemy
we should just buy the meat, that way we don't tempt the dicegods

>>24345636
I don't think we can make actual meat with alchemy yet (too complex for a first circle), just meat substitute.

>>24345892
Spam on demand! The wonders of magic never cease.

I'd rather just buy the meat in New York.

Obviously this isn't for halloween treats, but I wonder what Selene's opinion of catfood would be.

>>24345892
Maybe we could try conjuring real meat instead of alchemizing not!meat ?

>>24345935
We are not feeding our daughter catfood.

>>24345935
Under/overlooked and poorly seasoned.

>>24345935
>Catfood
>For our daughter
Snapple, I have never wanted to hurt you this much before.

>>24345955
Why?

>>24345960
>cooked, not looked...

>>24345968
She might go crazy for it like the aliens in District 9

>>24345935
Imagine putting the cheapest McDonalds patties you can find into a blender with fish oil and some very questionable hotdog.

It's kinda like that, but slightly worse.

>>24345971
Start with Pierre, ok?

>>24345971
>our daughter

>>24345950
Or we could alchemize the meat and candy together into something she likes. Just hope we dont fail.

>>24345994
Please. Just shut up.

>>24346007
if we target the candy as opposed to use it as a temp focus there will be no problems except drain on a transmutation focus baring a crit fail.

>>24345917
Spam is made of real meats. And it's not bad if you fry it up first.

>>24346097
NOTHING is bad if you fry it first. Nothing at all.
I've had deep fried cookie dough wrapped around kitkats and it still tasted decent.

You go around, collecting up Liz and Selene. Liz is already awake again and taking a shower; you leave her to it. Selene, though, you wake up, leaving the little girl yawning.

"Are you ready to get dressed up in your costume?" you ask your daughter. She nods excitedly at that, and you get to work getting her into the costume Liz made for her. You get her all dressed up and she struts around in her costume for a while. You make sure to slip the charm that Liz had carefully made - a minor passive field of normalcy - around her neck too.

That done, you get Liz, who's now dressed again, and this time wearing a slinky black gown along with her various devil accessories, and head on up to the outbound circle. Your dad is relaxing there, playing cards with the meals and Lin. They pause to send the three of you out.

The three of you find yourselves standing in the apartment where you grew up. It's a pretty nice place in Queens. You're standing in the living room - well, living space - which is sparsely furnished. Your bedroom's door is off to one side, next to your mom's. The lights are also all off, evening light coming in through the windows. Your mom must not be home. Liz starts turning on the lights, while Selene wanders off to explore.

It's almost like you never even left.

What do you do?

>>24346143
So what you're saying is that we should fry the catfood first?

>>24345968
>an animal eats it so it must be bad
I eat stuff that's a lot like the stuff rich people's cats get in cans.

>>24346163
Can't be worse than fried cicada.
They popped and ruined the whole batch of oil. Boss was pissed as hell.

>>24346157
It occurred to me that when Selene looks out a window it will be the first time she's seen the sky for real.

We must witness this moment.

>>24346157
text mom tell her we are at home

so them our old bedroom.

>>24346196
Why were you frying cicadas?

>>24346157
I have no idea. Maybe go meat shopping? I bet the butcher would get a kick out of oour Holy Paladin

>>24346202
This, we could give both of them a quick tour of the apartment.

>>24346217
I'm curious about that too.

>>24346157
Does the house have a security alarm? If so, disable it.

>>24346217
>>24346232
Well, they were good on pizza, it was a slow day, I was hungry, and one of the 13 year cycles had just started, so they were basically everywhere.

>>24346259
That just raises more questions. Like who puts cicadas on pizza?

>>24346202
This.

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>>24346284
Lots of people. Insects are a great source of protein, you know.

>>24346157
Supervise Selene, while letting mom know we're around. Also, I imagine Fap is along with Selene?

>>24346157
We should probably send mom a text that we're home. Then start showing Selene around the house and explaining how things work without magic. Watch our daughter see the sky. See how Liz reacts to our humble home.

>>24346202
this

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>>24346581
They really are! Gram for gram, they're better then steak. And surprisingly tasty. A bucket of fried ants is as good as popcorn.

You send your mother a text, telling her that you're home. She sends one back saying that she's stuck commuting and will be home as soon as possible. You lead Selene slowly around the house, explaining all sorts of little things to her like light switches, watching her figuring out that there aren't any ladders, and, best of all, watching her look at the sun setting behind Manhattan.

Fap just stares out the window. Selene's little mouth hangs agape. Finally, after a few minutes, she asks, "That's the sky?"

"It sure is," you tell her.

"It's big," she says.

"Very," you agree.

"It's pretty," she says.

"Extremely," you confirm.

"Can we live here now?" she asks.

"No, sweetie. Only during breaks," you tell her.

"Breaks?"

"Breaks from living at school," you tell her. "In a little more than a month, we'll be coming home for part of the winter. Then, in the summer, we'll spend some time here again."

"I like the sky," she says.

"I know, sweetie," you tell her.

You go looking for Liz. You find her in your room, not touching anything, and just looking around slowly. The free weights - now light enough to be meaningless - in the corner. Your computer. Your bed. And all of the scattered detritus of a teenager's life.

"So, what do you think?" you ask her. She jumps a little.

"This place is... Small," she says. "I don't know what I was expecting. It's New York, after all."

What do you say?

>>24346581
I read somewhere that locust actually convert more of what they eat into protein than a cow eating the same amount does

>>24346657
Snag some steaks from the butcher.

>>24346657
"its home, bet I could bench all my weights at once now"

>>24346657
"It's not exactly lavish, honestly the Tower feels just as much like home at this point, especially given how much everything has changed since I was last here. But it's where I grew up, so there's that. The weights aren't even that impressive to me any more.

Once I get a lot of gold liquidated Mom ought to be able to move somewhere nicer, not have to work so much. She deserves that much."

>>24346657
>Breaks from living at school," you tell her. "In a little more than a month, we'll be coming home for part of the winter.
Is prolonged absence from sanctum a good idea? You have to leave dad and the meals there, a newborn dryad has to be brought to a mundane house or left with dad. You are dangerously exposed in an unwarded house and any other student scrying you will find mom.
If anything, you should immediately active temp wards for the night for privacy.

>>24346764
yes time for some privacy spells

>>24346754
Well, now that she doesn't need to take care of us anymore she could totally move up from RN to Nurse Practitioner.

>>24346764
Don't wards take months? Dad has been working on the tower wards since we first moved in there months ago.

>>24346754
I'm not sure I like the implication that mom would like to cut back on her job. Then again, we did agree to finance her continuing education if she wants to pick up where she left off (rnp? Can't remember what certification she was going for way back when...).

>>24346821
Now that we can literally make gold, and pretty much any other precious expensive substance, by snapping our fingers she could do whatever the fuck she wants with her career whether it be get a degree on top of things, go to Nurse Practitioner, move to a small private island, we can give her the options.

>>24346657
Missing the mystique of the unknown in your mistress? I am only human, well, mostly anyway.

>>24346811
Not when our mom is so close to being home and Selene would be unsupervised.

>>24346850
Doing anything that just screams "I suddenly have unlimited income" would be a bad move. She'll either end up arrested for fraud or kidnapped by someone who wants to know where she's getting it from.

>>24346828
permanent ones as a magic item yes temporary spells no

>>24346864
>mostly
Nope

>>24346850
Well, maybe not a private island. That kind of flaunt tends to attract interest from the IRS, and we REALLY don't want them to be asking us those kinds of questions.

>>24346850
Sure, but if she likes her job and finds it rewarding we shouldn't try pushing her out of it. Or getting her in trouble with the IRS.

>>24346867
I don't mean for sex i mean so rivals cant find where mom lives.

>>24346828
Permanent wards powered by an elemental, yes.
Also modifying extending wards is much more difficult then making brand new ones and the wards dad works on are amazingly high quality and ward against many things.

The only way we can even CONSIDER a prolonged stay with mom is to buy and build up a secondary sanctum home for her specifically.
Or we just don't do prolonged stay, teleport in, temp wards on, enjoy some hours, teleport out.
Repeat several days in a row.

I am most concerned though about mom's safety, people could very well track us to her if we are not careful... at the moment only the administrators know, a student has to hack school net (unlikely until 5th year) or track us down themselves (very likely if they scry us now because we are literally defenseless.

Furthermore, we never explained to mom how DANGEROUS things are at the school.

So, we aren't putting sugar on the meat treats right, more like a little coating of Johnny's yeah?

>>24346850
the key limiting factor is to not tip off teh IRS

Stopping in with my daily badfun idea. Can we text a cheesy bathroom mirror cameraphone photo of our costume too Pierre? "You bring out the Angel in Me" attached if we're feeling extra cheeky. Obviously we hide our dick.

>>24346907
We did explain it to her, when we first got here and talked to her on the phone.

>>24346881
50% + raised as one till 13

>>24346926
Let's not.

>>24346926
I can't wait until Liz finds that text...

>>24346932
We're enough not human to understand the Word.

>>24346864
Seconding.

>>24346967
Sure, but we're human enough to have to eat. And humans can be made to understand the Word, it just tends to take a lot of time and effort while having the slight sideffect of slowly breaking their mind. You meant safely understand the Word though, so yes, we definitely have a strong spirit component (more so than Sam in all likelihood), but I'd still say more human than not.

>>24346657
>"This place is... Small,"
Surely she realizes how rude that is?

Well, tell her not everyone gets to be wealthy I guess.

>>24346907
Actually, this brings up a good point. Since mom and dad were dating and dad probably would have had similar concerns, I'd not be surprised if our home is warded. Assuming it's the same home, anyways, which I guess it's likely not.

>>24346919
Or to not do it on a big enough scale that they'd care enough to audit, anyway.

>>24346926
I like the idea but I think our costume is probably too slutty.
Then again if we left the seed in, I reckon it doesn't matter.

>>24346907
I concure

>>24346926
no

>>24347055
>And humans can be made to understand the Word, it just tends to take a lot of time and effort while having the slight sideffect of slowly breaking their mind.
No. They can't. They can make a construct to translate it, but they can't understand it themselves.

>>24347076
yes they can but that is probably what happened to make Carl say the Prometheans should have been called the Icarans
Not to mention after the fall some of uncle Luke's people tried and succeeded in fixing some humans and were promptly smote by grandad.

>>24347067
>Or to not do it on a big enough scale that they'd care enough to audit, anyway.

Which is a surprisingly small amount even if you pay taxes on it.

>>24346930
We only vaguely alluded to it.

>24346919
A simple mind charm for mom to carry will take care of that.

>Safety
Ok so here is my idea... for this visit Temp wards against detection only that last only a few hours. We will have to hope nobody uses conjuration or enchantment or something more serious to attack us. (although the can do the latter whenever we leave home).

And no more future visits until we get things done right. Having her move in with you would be safest but be the end of her career and damn do we not want to explain the meals and dad and so on.
So instead converse with her over the phone tomorrow and clarify things. Then temporary break contact with her.
Then we need to find a new home for her, she should not move in there yet. Instead we make it into a properly warded backup sanctum from which she can work (as well as giving her a set of charms to carry around at all time... say, enchanted earrings or tattoos or something.
When its fully ready, reestablish contact with her and have her relocate to the new place. At which you could visit her safely.

Shut the fuck up and quit arguing over exactly how human we are. And fuck you Snapple for being a pedantic little shitbag and kicking this argument up to begin with.

>>24346907
Not to sound too paranoid, but if anyone was particularly interested they probably could have tracked Max through Facebook or other social media (at least one of her friends must have posted a tagged photo at some point before we left for the scholomance...).

>>24347152
>>24347055
No, they can't. Or, if they can, you've haven't met one and have been told by your father that there are non.

>>24347152
No, they tried and failed, and were smote for trying. There is no evidence of anyone succeeding and Dad doesn't think it's happened.

>>24347152
>yes they can but that is probably what happened to make Carl say the Prometheans should have been called the Icarans
>Not to mention after the fall some of uncle Luke's people tried and succeeded in fixing some humans and were promptly smote by grandad.
no one has succeeded in fixing what god broke

>>24347152
You're wrong. That's all there is to it.
And just because someone fucked themselves up doing something dangerous, like trying to understand the Word, that doesn't mean they succeeded.

>>24347067
Mom hadn't yet bought/rented this place when she and dad we dating.

So, what do you actually say?

>>24347294

Reality rarely lives up imaginings.

Then kiss her

You're one of the exceptions, slut.

>>24347166
>A simple mind charm for mom to carry will take care of that
we would want anti MC as well as mind scrying and to block conjuration or sorcery peeping and alchemical law of sympathy tracking. But that is only 4 fold increase on a relatively small project (on the order of the collar). So block all 4 schools most common scrying method and direct MC and she is ok.
>>24347193 >>24347195 >>24347201 >>24347203
I stand corrected

>>24347337
this >>24347294

>>24347294
>About to head to bed so not voting again, but just wanted to say thank you for providing a much needed distraction this week. See you next thread FemCOCK.

>>24347294
>>24347337
this I like

>>24347294
"Single mothers don't really have much money to throw around, you know."

>>24347337
I totally thought we were talking to selene until I read this.
This is good.
After that cast some anti scry spells with liz's help (on people not locations so the spells move with us)

>>24347294
The following anon has done a much better job voicing what I want to say than I am capable of thinking up on my own. Please use >>24347337.

>>24347337
>Reality rarely lives up imaginings.
This, but in English.

>>24347450

I forgot a to in there.

>>24347358
>A simple mind charm for mom to carry will take care of that
>we would want anti MC as well as mind scrying...
The line "a simple mind charm will take care of that" was explicitly and specifically ONLY about the IRS getting suspicious of mom.

The other wards you suggest are basically what I am going for in the second sanctum she can move into when its finished (and we break contact while building it)

>>24347365
we should use alchemy to win a lotto. buy some tickets then change the numbers to the winning ones after the fact. that or alter some sratch and wins

>>24347450
Just add the obligatory "to our" before "imaginings" and move on. Agreed?

>>24347489
Or, you know, sound less like a cornball and change it to "imagination".

>>24347484
There's an electronic record of the numbers sold for a given lottery at any distributor (since they get a smaller cut of the winnings). We'd also have to match the bar code/serial number on our altered scratch ticket to a winning code if we go that route.

>>24347484
Lottery tickets are barcoded and recorded specifically so they can't be re-marked.

>>24347542
Also known as "petty, yet felony fraud that has probably been attempted by muggles multiple times."

> Grammar
We have a unanimous decision on what to say and we are arguing about grammar?

>>24347535
Sure, still need the "to" in that case. Just letting you know how I read it originally. I've gotten used to correcting internet questionable English without paying too much attention, though admittedly that backfires every once in a while...

>>24347573
Yes, because one way sounds forced, and the other sounds natural. It's also called, uh, shooting the shit while waiting for Fem.

>>24347470
as for teh mind charm im not sure charming one person will solve a burocratic IRS problem

As of the other things she needs protection out of her new house.

>>24347573
They were arguing earlier whether or not calling ourselves partly human as part of a joke is a valid statement. Some people in this thread are fucking retarded.

"Not quite what you imagined?" you ask her.

"I don't know," she says. "I know they always said New York apartments were small, but they always looked so big on TV."

"That's because they're filmed on a set, not in a real apartment," you tell her, smirking.

"I... Yeah, okay," she says, smiling back. "It's just not what I expected of my glamorous Mistress, who whisked me off to a magical clocktower in a city-sized school of wonder and danger."

"What, where you expecting blue walls instead of white?" you ask, busting her chops. "You can only do so much as a single mom on a nurse's salary."

"Oh," says Liz, looking surprised. "Oh, no, that's not what I-"

"Relax," you tell her. "I understand."

You hear the front door open in the main room.

"Max! I'm home!"

"GRANDMA!"

I'm ending it here for tonight. Time to sleep.

>>24347542
>We'd also have to match the bar code/serial number on our altered scratch ticket to a winning code if we go that route.
oh erm. Enchantment to rig horse races

>>24347626
night.
Same time tomorrow?

>>24347643
I bet most gambling establishments have a non schoolamance mage checking for obvious magical tampering.

>>24347643
Cheating in gambling with magic is probably a bad idea, lin slapped your head over it before.
Remember that there are a lot of scholomance dropouts out there who are higher then first circle who rule the various underworlds.

We can just use enchantment to throw off IRS but if we really really want to seem "legit" we should just fake a sudden inheritance from a different country for mom.

>>24347690
Magic is really really rare in this setting and most people never get more than one or two boxes.

So I don't think most gambling establishments have mages.

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>>24347698
>higher then first circle.
<--

>We can just use enchantment to throw off IRS
Assuming they have no magic, which is probably not true

>but if we really really want to seem "legit" we should just fake a sudden inheritance from a different country
Because nobody has ever used that as a cover story before.

>>24347643
We could also use Sorcery to fix a roulette game or sell our gold.

I'm wondering where 'needing to lie to the IRS' came from. What wrongdoings do people think an audit is going to turn up? We're not doing anything illegal. At all. Like, even remotely. Selling the gold is legal and legit, and even if it raises red flags, on deeper investigation they would be able to find NO WRONGDOING.

Seriously, what the fuck?

>>24347714
>lin slapped your head over it before
You got that backwards

>>24347643
Really? You want to muscle in on the mob's racket? Just make sure you do it in such a way that it can't be connected to us, Liz or our families. Wouldn't want mom getting wacked.

>>24347714
Actually, Lin was suggesting using magic to cheat at illegal underground gambling, and Liz smacked her upside the head for it.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance

This thread is now archived. Vote it up.

>>24347721
Horse races are a big deal, and there's only a few major stadiums. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a mage involved somewhere in anything big enough that we could make a lot off of it without being suspicious.

>>24347698
>fake a sudden inheritance from a different country for mom.
best plan yet
also Liz slapped Lin over cheating at gambling.

>>24347721
i mean big ones like all of the Vegas strip the downs Madison square Monticello Atlantic City ect.

I think it's interesting how people are more eager to illegally cheat at gambling than sell questionable-but-legal gold. It certainly shows where people's senses of risk and senses of reward are weighted.

>>24347721
Magic is really rare, and first circle schoolmate graduates (if we can take Max as a presumed example) have access to immortality. I think magic might be either more dangerous to practice or more strictly controlled than we have thus far been led to believe.

>>24347785
I think it's because cheating at gambling is more interesting than selling off the gold.

>>24347737
>deeper investigation
we want no investigation period. that is the issue.
And how do we explain where we dot several TONS of gold?

>>24347807
Yes, it is.

>>24347785
Most people are familiar with the risk-reward of cheating at gambling. Not many get used to the idea of having tons of gold dumped in their lap.

>>24347807
no it's because I'm trying to a reaction

>>24347807
me to.
my best plans are to buy a dead mine as cover
or
>fake a sudden inheritance from a different country for mom

>>24347811
Why do we need to explain it? Unless there's clear evidence of wrongdoing - which there isn't because it's entirely legal - they can and will do nothing. If they even notice. Which they probably won't, unless they were already watching our mom for some reason.

>>24347825

Less safe though

Sell off gold, acquire mansion and potential harem end.

>>24347849
in the us now it is a federal crime to sell or by gold without proper documentation that is the problem.
Also how do we answer anyone official who asks where we got our gold?
hence the >buy a dead mine as cover plan

>>24347854
>an entire mansion's worth of new wards
Looks like dad ain't resting this century

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>>24347847
>my best plans are to buy a dead mine as cover
I like that plan, another one is change the gold into coins

>>24347849
We could, you know, also play like smart people and only sell off enough to buy her a nice house without it being a retarded fuckhuge mansion. You know, a purchase people make every day. It's not like our single mother is going to want or need a fifteen-bedroom mansion villa, anyway.

>>24347907
Love it. Make a whole fake shipwreck and have the name SS Longcock carved into the side.

>>24347902
>in the us now it is a federal crime to sell or by gold without proper documentation
No, it's not. And even if it was, wire transfers from overseas are neither illegal nor require explanation as long as you pay the taxes on them.

>>24347907
>I like that plan, another one is change the gold into coins
that is actually a lot worse because counterfeiting.
Home smelted gold is much safer.

>>24347930
I was never suggesting the mansion or whatever stupid bullshit. I was just saying that merely selling some gold and transferring the money to her is an entirely less retarded idea than trying to cheat at gambling.

I take back what I said in >>24347829. This is a kind of idiocy that defies logic and explanation.

>>24347951
Seriously, we run a Swiss account wired to the USA into our mom's savings. No taxes, no suspect, no feds give a shit. Easy peasy problem solved.

>>24347737
Getting audited is ALWAYS a bad idea. Especially because we actually are hiding something - just because that something is magic rather than crime doesn't mean we want them airing out our questionably clean laundry.

>>24347785
What, that people place more stock in the competence of the IRS than of law enforecement? While I think cheating at any large-scale gambling is a bad idea, everything seems to be in order in terms of risk assessment from my perspective.

>>24347849
>Why do we need to explain it?
Because money from nowhere is not something they'll shrug off, if it's in large enough quantities to be significant. Sure, a hundred thousand here or there is no big deal, and will help our mom a lot, but we can't go buying her private islands and shit.

>>24347785
>it's interesting how people are more eager to illegally cheat at gambling than sell questionable-but-legal gold. It certainly shows where people's senses of risk
Personally I have been for just selling gold; I don't think the IRS will come and if they do I stated a single enchantment will send them away satisfied. The sudden inheritance could be of some gold jewelry which is then sold.

>>24347907
I had that plan some threads back and forgot about it, thanks for the reminder.
Problem is to get the money for the mine, and equipment, and its kinda weird that we have no employees yet money coming out.

>>24348007
>we can't go buying her private islands and shit
Why would she even want that? Why would we even do that?

>>24348021
Some people seem to think we need to do everything in the most extreme fashion. Fools and their money, as they say.

>>24348007
>What, that people place more stock in the competence of the IRS than of law enforecement
Not a single person, not 1, has considered law enforcement a threat when cheating in gambling.
Instead everyone was focused on the crime syndicates that own those and POTENTIALLY other mages who are involved with those criminal organizations.

>>24348054
>Not a single person, not 1, has considered law enforcement a threat when cheating in gambling.
Shoes how much stock people set in the competence of law enforcement, right?

>Instead everyone was focused on the crime syndicates that own those
Easily circumvented by gambling at establishments not owned by crime syndicates.

You know, we don't even have to fake a shipwreck, we can probably magically locate a real one that hasn't been found yet and "find" it. Do it under your name rather then mom's so anyone suspicious comes after you (and can be easily deflected) and then just put it all in a trust fund shared by you and mom.

Whole thing would take a matter of days and we will be done with this issue already.

>>24348054
yes the IRS (and any mages they may have) is a real threat as are The Mob (and there mages, like Sam) normal cops are not an issue.

Unrelated question guys: Will we ever get back to looking through the stuff we found in our other secret hideout?

Or we could just sell some of our gold. There are places - in NYC - that legally purchase gold. No documentation. No nothing. You walk in with gold, walk out with cash.

Gold isn't diamonds. You don't need papers to prove it hasn't been smuggled out of a dictatorship. It really is that easy.

>>24348163
what?

>>24348163
I hope so

>>24348163
Probably not.

>>24348179
Remember when he tried to decipher some old documents and ended up making it crumble to dust instead?

>>24348176
yea but people want to sell enough to become a multi millionere at which point it becomes more difficult.

Hence the plan of:
1. Scry a real shipwreck
2. "find" it yourself
3. put all money from it in a trustfund.

>>24348225
I completely forgot until right now.

>>24348176
People seem paranoid (as usual) that any kind of productive actions not involving the copious usage of magic threaten our safety. Selling gold to some licensed schmuck in NY is not going to get a mob of ex-archmages on our asses. That would be ridiculous. We can funnel $15,000 of gold through a privately-owned family gold shop and walk out with a single document to sign for. Thinking that doing something as harmless as that will get us in deep shit is beyond paranoid and just outright pussy-footing.

>>24348209
Well, as soon as it's "safe" to walk around again, we should consider using some of our free time to go there and transfer all the stuff inside back to the tower. I'm pretty sure FemCOCK meant for us to learn something from all those documents.

>>24348242
>We can funnel $15,000
I am pretty sure the people being paranoid about it want to add at least 4 zeroes to that figure (which is kinda pointless)... but I might just be giving them too much credit

>>24348257
yes i think we still have a chance of restoring that ash but it will be more work than if we hadn't flubbed our first role.

>>24348300
since there are a whole bunch of those books there, we should craft enough perm foci to maximize our rolls and restore all of them as a foundation of our library.

oooh, if any are overdue library books we could use them as a bribe too.

>>24348300
Weren't there other books in that place?

>>24348317
Oh yes, that'd be good too. After we finish studying their contents, though.

>>24348280
Their lack of scale is astounding. Do they have any idea how much $15,000 would mean to our single mother? Dropping $15k to our mother every six or so months won't draw any attention, like, at all, and easily push her from working class to middle class. Any tax laws can probably be circumvented with a good tax expert and a trust fund. They ask where the money is coming from? We have an inheritance from some relatives in eastern Europe. Done.

>>24348344
You realize the Librarian can read minds and you are proposing a delay in the return of overdue books, right?

>>24348381
Bluh, no fun!

>>24348369
Remind me what her base salary is, because is was under the impression that she was middle class but living in one of the most expensive areas in the USA.

>>24348280
yes if we want medium amounts of money we need next to no prep but shit tons of money is another matter.

the is why my nwe plan is
1. Scry a real shipwreck
2. "find" it yourself
3 by a working gold mine
4 use enchantment to screen interviewees for the mine manager position
5 higher the best applicant to run it for us
6 dope the mine output with alchemical gold
7 now we can dispose of almost any amount of alchemical gold at no extra effort for crystal clean mortal money we can do anything with. & nave a source of automatic non magical income.

>>24348381
we didn't check it out though

>>24348416
she is a nurse and was a single mother go from there.

>>24348176
Those kinds of stores buy gold in jewelry format at a significant rip-off level undercut. Not exactly a good idea since we've already got decent channels to buy through.

>>24348446
True, but depending on whether she's making 60k or 80k a year I may simply have a different understanding than you.

>>24348478
And the quick look answer is roughly 90-100k a year. I'm thinking middle class over working.

Didn't we already talk to Sam and he can liquidate some gold for us anyway?

>>24348416
Average RN Salary in Ny, Ny: $98k
2-bedroom apartments in Manhattan: $3-5k a month

>>24348568
People seem to think that giving our mom cash is going to get her Guantanimo'd

>>24348344
>>24348381
She would probably going to be happy enough with that to allow us to check them out.

>>24348424
That seems like an ironclad plan for becoming fabulously wealthy. But the latter steps are probably more effort then they are worth. Yes they would make us more fabulously wealthy in mortal terms but we hardly have the time for it right now. A few extra points of body enchantment are probably gonna be time better spent.

You know... mortal money is considered worthless in mage-mage economic dealings to the point where none of them even accept it accord to sam... We could commission some mages to arrange for a trust fund, associated government dealings, etc with large amounts of mortal money in exchange for some magical good.

>>24348568
Yes, he did actually.