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Contemplate those telekinetic arm tentacle things I was talking about last night.

>>24317175
nothing
>>24317185
rather make a morningstar

Though a more immediate course of action would be small talk.

On a side note, you said there are more than the four fundamental forces in here. This made me wonder, is life energy a thing?

Could we jam some spirits in a bottle and hook a magic thingy on it to make it shoot heal beams?

>>24317175
See what kind of interesting costumes everyone is wearing.

>>24317175
just wait to enter.

>>24317185
Ah, right, I was clarifying a point last night when the thread 404ed. They would have a functional Body score equal to their augment rating, and wouldn't be boosted by things like your strength or speed augments. They could still be useful in bolstering your already prodigious physical actions, manipulating objects in your environment with 'limbs' that neither tire nor grow damaged, and so forth. Aside from having a functional Body score equal to their rating, they would also get a new manipulative point for each level you have in it, meaning Telekinesis 5 would give you Body 5 telekinesis allowing five simultaneous points of force.

So, they would be quite dissimilar in application from your concept, but not something lacking utility. The real question is whether they would be worth taking the time from other augments and other projects to acquire.

>>24317218
Life energy is a thing. Purely spiritual beings don't have it. It is, in fact, the energy being manipulated when you rearrange your chi flow to produce physical augmentations.

>>24317237
>>24317242
do nothing check out what every one is wearing, put on a glamor of a mecka godzilla

>>24317237
>>24317175
yea we should put up a glamor and look Voltron.

>>24317274
>>24317290
o god such good choices, Voltron defender of the universe.

>>24317274
>>24317290
lets not use get strain before class

>>24317175
Look what costumes everyone is wearing

>>24317312
we got plenty of enchantment we can totally swing it

>>24317260
Sounds cool. I don't remember if this questio got through last night before the 404, but how would acquiring the arms work mechanically? Roll sorcery, successes times final level of arms? What about multiple arms? Do they all level up independently of eachother or as a group? How about length? Could they go beyond 5 blocks? Would they add directly to things that they could do at the same time as body, or would they do something else, like average?

>>24317272
It wouldn't be pulling it directly from the spirits, rather converting whatever energy does get yanked out using sorcery.

>>24317365
Although using a sorcerous matter-energy conversion mechanism to turn energy directly into life energy could work well.

Wonder if mainlining it would be beneficial to our augments

>>24317365
It would be the lower of Sorcery or Alchemy and have the success threshold defined by Body, as any other physical augmentation. Telekinesis 1 would give you a single point of force with approximate Body 1. Telekinesis 2 would give you two points of force with approximate Body 2. You would need Telekinesis 5 to emulate five distinct finger tips.

Don't think of them as invisible, telekinetic arms.

>>24317402
>energy directly into life energy
Matter* into energy

>>24317260
>>24317272
>>24317407
That sounds kind of badass. Obviously it's not something we can do right this moment, but I am throwing my support behind awesome telekinetic arms.

In the meantime, go chat to friends, wait for Petrov to tell us we're all late.

>>24317407
>Don't think of them as invisible, telekinetic arms.
So, like tentacles? You know you want to write invisi-tentacle tower funtimes.

>>24317402
>Wonder if mainlining it would be beneficial to our augments
I'm picturing Max walking around with an IV bag full of glowing green stuff, progressively getting buffer.

>>24317439
>Max hanging out in the tower
>Minding her own business, maybe reading a book or something
>Everyone is getting molested by an invisible force
I approve of this.

>>24317439
Don't think of them as occupying space between you and the interaction point. They're more like invisible - or at least less-visible, their presence would still warp light and cause rippling in the air and other force-matter interactions - marbles that you can push things with - or grip them in larger quantities.

>>24317430
>>24317456

We're getting a timeskip soon. Vote for getting tele arms during it.

>>24317464
Could the telekinetic force be used defensively as well if the situation called for it? Could we use it to ward off physical attacks to add more dice to our resistance to damage?

>>24317464
So it's just the 'hand' then. Floating force hands, all around us.

How would it work if we anchored ourself to the ground with them and then took a hit that would normall send us flying? Stay in place (assuming the hands are strong enough to maintain grip), or go flying still?

>>24317464
What would be the range of it?

>>24317468
>Telekinesis
>based on the lower of Sorcery or Alchemy
we have sorcery 1

>>24317468
we need to get better at sorcery first there power is the lower of that and alchemy... so study with frenchey first, then we can get them.

>>24317489
I suppose rather than anchoring ourselves to things, we could use the telekinesis to apply an opposite force to ourself.

...Wait a minute. Does that mean we could use Telekinesis to levitate?

>>24317501
we could use sorcery to fly yes

>>24317493
Timeskip solves all things

>>24317531
it could be used more efficiently is all I'm saying

>>24317492
Not much further than Max's normal reach. The first level would require approximately four successes using a school of magic in which you have a single die. The fifth, which would give you the dexterity of a single hand slightly stronger than your un-augmented hand, would require twenty.

>>24317531
>>24317545
or to greater effect. like studying and practicing our living Alchemy.
>>24317554
>Fem shoots TK down

>>24317554
When you put it like that, it really doesn't seem worth it.

Consider my motivation to spend time on that gone.

>>24317554
>>24317571
But thanks to focus and calm we'll still roll more dice than we did first starting out our augments at 2 alchemy.

This is a viable timeskip option.

>>24317554
Translation: not worth it right now, and equivalent to a +3 or greater useful augment during timeskip.

>>24317578
>This is a viable timeskip option.
not really seeing as we need TK4 or 5 for it to be useful

>>24317578
No it's not
It's a waste of time

>>24317554
>Not much further than Max's normal reach.

Why though? I'm pretty sure most Sorcery and Enchantment based abilities are not limited to such short range.

>>24317554
what about dresden files style force bands, or projecting kinetic energy?

>>24317593
because permanent extra arms

>>24317593
Because it's producing an effect built off of your body's natural chi without causing strain. That, by its nature, limits the range at which your augments are applicable. So far, all of your augments have been internal or not going and further than your skin, so it's never come up.

>>24317600
Those are just Kinetic Sorcery Foci.

>>24317591
>>24317585
>>24317578
doesn't matter yet can we get on with class please?

>>24317554
>five points in strength aug makes Max a superhuman who can punch through solid steel.
>five points in telekinesis aug would allow Max to have one extra hand with all the abilities of... a hand.

If you don't want us to bother with TK, just say so.

>>24317578
>viable
unless you have no idea what the word 'viable' means, no, no it is not viable

stop trying to cripple max with your stupid ideas

>>24317578
shut up Snapple

>>24317614
yes please

>>24317618
Seriously... If we got a dozen of them then regular hand abilities might be worth it.

But just one? Wtf why?

>>24317638
Because this isn't about game balance, it's about how Lotus augmentation metamechanics work. Just learn how to cast sorcery spells if you want impressive telekinesis situationally and at a distance far from your body instead of permanent telekinesis.

>>24317614
>>24317636
this
force hands are useless and based off Sorcery, give it up

>>24317610
>Those are just Kinetic Sorcery Foci.
really? because I thought the force bands would work like a battery that when you hit something with it it would dump the stored energy into it. something like how the collar of liz's has a shapeshift spell that's powered by ambient heat

>>24317655
Fuck it. I give up on the hands.

>>24317627
l2readingcomprehension

Viable was describing the process of actually rolling for the hands, not the hands themselves.

>>24317674
And capture, storage, and manipulation of energy is a sorcery thing. The collar uses sorcery to draw ambient heat and light to power its alchemy-based shapeshifting.

>>24317687
I wouldn't call a 12 hour minimum for 1 finger's work of TK to be viable.

>>24317610
Okay, so aug telekinesis is crappy and underpowered, but I did have one other question based on what you've said. Is an actual life force/chi aug a possibility without killing Max horribly, and if so, what would it affect?

You look around at everyone and their costumes. The voodoo chick is wearing a top hat, tail coat, and carrying around some kind of pimp cane, aside from her normal face paint. You don't really get the reference. Hera is wearing a fairly obvious illusion of a human girl. One student - whose solutions to class projects have yet to be anything other than creating permanent tools or constructs via spirit binding - is wearing a giant paper mache Jack in the Box head.

With all of the masks, you can't tell who half the people in costumes are, and the other half tend to be wearing costumes designed to be slutty or so cobbled-together that you can't tell what they are. A few are wearing simple accents, like Liz's devil horns or the girl with a cat nose and whiskers painted on.

Eventually, Petrov pushes open the doors. "Just because it's a holiday doesn't mean you can stand around skipping class," he says, then heads on in. Everyone files in after him, sitting down in their seats and waiting for him to start. He snaps his fingers and a turnip, pumpking, potato, squash, or other gourd or root vegetable appears in front of everyone. You get a daikon radish.

"Today is Halloween," Petrov explains. "Ghosts are easier to conjure. The veils between worlds are thinner. Today, we're going to mimic an old legend and use vegetables to imprison spirits and ghosts. This is a lesson in improvisation, shoddy materials, and planar mechanics. Any questions?"

Do you ask anything?

>>24317718
All of your physical augmentations are based on manipulation of chi/life force.

>>24317700
You still don't get it, do you?

Even if using the hands for things isn't viable, rolling for them (or any sorcery based augment) at one sorcery still is viable because of our +2 calm and +2 focus. Our forcefield proves that.

>>24317720
"What's the legend?"

Or wait and hope someone dumber than us asks it.

>>24317720
>conjuration class
This day just keeps getting worse...

>>24317720
Nope. Let's jam a ghost in a pumpkin.

Maybe watch the voodoo chick and see how it do.

>>24317746
Do not ask that. I'd rather Max not look ignorant in front of the entire class.

>>24317746
Samhain gave everyone the dick.

The end.

>>24317754
Which is why I threw in that second part.

>>24317748
At least it isn't for Sorcery.

>>24317746
Yeah.. no.

>>24317749
I mean radish.

>>24317720
Don't ask anything

You don't ask anything, instead letting him continue the lesson. He explains the difference between summoning ghosts and summoning spirits - not terribly much. He explains the difference between lingering ghosts and shades in some afterlife realm, and the difficulties inherent in summoning the latter. He explains that, on liminal days, including regional ones, that difficulty is lowered to what you would expect of normal spirit summoning.

The second part of the lecture is a rehashing of the basic spirit binding from earlier, a discussion of the impact that shoddy materials have on attempting to produce magical effects - a negative one - and how to control for it, which is with temporary foci. He ends with the point that shoddy materials, while unideal, are still quite useful when put in emergency situations or when trying to do work that's intended to be temporary by definition. You're reminded of that small glass disc that he used to produce a temporary ward at the beginning of the semester.

"So then," he says. "Vegetables are terrible materials for binding spirits because they rot, slips of the knife are hard to impossible to repair, and so on. Carve them, bind something into them, and bring it to me to be graded. Spirits are adequate; ghosts are extra credit; powerful or old ghosts more on top of that. Get to work."

What's your strategy for approaching this class project?

>>24317995

First, make the best goddamned pumpkin anyone's ever seen. Carve it perfectly and beautifully so that hopefully, it'll offset the penalties from using an inappropriate vessel.

Try and co-opt Liz and Lin in as well, if group work is permitted.

>>24317995
Carve Petrov's face into our radish.

Then bind something into it. We're jamming Lenin into it.

>>24318035

I'm pretty sure Lenin is stuck in that glass case along with his body. You don't fuck with Russian necromancers.

>>24318022
we have a daikon radish
>>24318035
>We're jamming Lenin into it.
nah, that would be an old ghost. lets try for the dryad that got immolated at the start of the year

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>>24318022
>First, make the best goddamned pumpkin anyone's ever seen
That'd be pretty impressive, considering we're starting with a daikon.

>>24317995
Carve a happy face in it, roughly what kind of difficulties are we looking at for the higher scores?

Because I think we can afford one grade in the "adequate" range since this isn't our specialty.

>>24317995
If group work is allowed work with a group since our conjuration is shit, if not well fuck.

Start by carving it, making sure it's a damn good carving job, and collecting a massive fuckton of Foci.

>>24317995
Go big or go home, ghost of ceasar in a raddish please.

>>24317995
I'm thinking that we should aim for a spirit or a weak ghost

>>24318080
We're limited to two temp and two permanent.

>>24318100
>two permanent.
you mean just to temp because we don't have any permanent summoning foci

>>24318100
Do we even have any permanent conjuration focii?

>>24317995
Bind Hitler into our daikon

>>24318128
I was hoping for Ghengis Khan myself.

>>24318124
Our anti conjuration warding foci.

>>24318128
>>24318091
>>24318035
No, terrible idea. We go for something adequate and within our abilities, nothing big or tough. This is not within our specialty whatsoever.

>>24318100
>impact that shoddy materials have on attempting to produce magical effects - a negative one
we're going to be rolling 3 dice on this so we need to pick some thing easy

>>24318137
Can we activate those in a field effect, except for on us?
It would be hilarious to block everyone from summoning anything.

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>>24317995
I suggest that we carve our radish like this and then bind an earth spirit to it.

>Ghengis Khan
>Hitler
>Lenin
>bind any of them
not with 3 dices we're not, we should go with a basic spirit
>>24318155
too obvious, Petrov will fail us for cheating

>>24318155
If by hilarious you mean Petrov slapping our shit for ruining his class.

>>24318178
>Ghengis Khan
>Hitler
>Lenin
>bind any of them

You're right, we're not thinking old enough.

We bind Abel.

>>24318173
wrong sort of radish see>>24318072
but binding an earth spirit is a good idea

>>24318035
no, hey lets bind the dryad killed at the start of the year, we are pretty close to her after our daughters and a plant would be an ideal medium to summon/bind her in.

and nothing says fuck you dextra like bring back the soul of a kill to identify them.

>>24318197
>Not binding Uncle Lucy to the radish

>>24318197
we aren't skilled enough, and they are likely already bound.

>>24318211
"Hey uncle, could you do me a favour to make up for all those birthdays you missed... just get in the radish for about an hour."

>>24318203
Do plants even even have souls?
Time for a new shitstorm

>>24318233
GET IN THE BAG

>>24317995
bind a minor spirit, we don't have the mojo to take on a ghost and I'd rather we pass this then fail for over reaching

>>24318211
Old Ghosts > Spirits for this project, apparently.

Abel is, at least in the mythology Max descends from, the first person to ever be murdered, can't do much better than that.

>>24318173
>>24318199
>>24318070

Since we are gonna use a vegetable, binding the the ghost of a dryad should to it should be easy right?

By the way, the radish currently provides a -2 external penalty on the roll to bind the ghost or spirit into the radish. This doesn't reduce your focus limit, just your final dice pool. Each success on a well-planned attempt at carving the proper arcane patterns into it reduce the penalty by 1. If you fail, the penalty increases by 1. If you fail and get a net negative, such as by rolling a 1 with no successes, the penalty increases by 2 or more.

Summoning the ghost or spirit is its own roll, which is modified by how powerful, old, or occultly weird the object of the summons is.

>>24317995
carve something really slowly make it perfect,

>>24318203
ryad killed at the start of the year,

>>24318197
yea like they aren't yet bound/ being summoned.
perfect hell yes fuck yea.

>>24318211
>>24318233
we get less a grade for spirits.

>>24318211
>binding the devil
So we ARE trying to replicate that myth.

>>24318254
Question, are ALL spirits reduced by a penalty for summoning into a vegetable. What about if we bind something that is plant related, like a wood spirit?

>>24318254
What do we roll for carving, Body + Calm + Focus?

>>24318257
>we get less a grade for spirits.

Yeah but we also get A grade.

Failing to summon something is an automatic failure people, and Max sucks at conjuring in the first place.

>>24318211
>>24318233
>>24318264
fuck no, it's a stupid idea

>>24318254
Welp, time to get the x-acto out and start carefully carving a conjuration binding pattern.

>>24318279
I am also curious about this, if we can get something which is more in harmony with a natural binding material, will it help the process?

Use our glorious body/co-ordination skills to carve the everloving shit out of that radish

>>24318288
>thinking they're at all serious

>>24318282
Coordination probably counts, too.

>>24318279
>>24318308
>What about if we bind something that is plant related, like a wood spirit?

Yeah, and then we can use the little bits that are carved off the radish as foci for the summoning too!

>>24318254
draw the pattern on with a sharpy then slowly carve away

I vote Dryad from the start of the year.

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I know what to bind into it.

>>24318328
Oh indeed.
It's been a few threads since I participated, didn't even know we had that.

>>24318282
It depends on how you handle the carving planning and how you perform the actual carving. Some people - Hera for example - are going to use Alchemy to try to precision-etch patterns. Some, like the voodoo chick, are going to use secret, tried-and-true traditional methods for conjuring and binding ghede and other spirits of the dead, making the radish a formality. Liz will probably have a slightly harder time than she normally would - though still easier than people who are bad at Conjuration - because of the way she tends to approach problems and her magical background when it comes to the methodology and preparation of receptacles for spirits.

>>24318339
You.

I like you.

>>24318351
So can we get a ruling on whether we still get penalties for binding a spirit that has some sympathetic link to plants.

Hell, maybe even a radish spirit, as someone said.

>>24318351
Since we have augmented Focus/Perception/Calm/Coordination I suggest we use a normal knife to give our radish a humanoid form like >>24318339 picture.

>>24318279
Trying to use some kind of plant-spirit would give you a +1. This doesn't replace the -2, it's on top of it, and partially cancels it out. Even if you brought the -2 to a 0, you would still get the +1.

>>24318400
Right so I vote our action to be as >>24318332
said with the sharpie and then begin carving.

>>24318400
Great, I guess that's locked in now. All we have to do is decide how to carve the radish.

Frankly, >>24318390 seems the best option right now.

>>24318351
I'm voting sharpie + x-acto, since it's we're pretty likely to ace that part.

Okay, use our mad body/calm/focus/coordination skills to carve the most bitchin' conjuration pattern that has ever been carved into a radish into that radish, and then summon the poor dead dryad into it somehow. This sounds like a plan.

>>24318451
>>24318446
>>24318425
>>24318424

Yep, carve the radish into a humanoid form and then summon the dead dryad.

>>24318451
>>24318495
Let's do it, dryad is a ghost which is also a plant spirit, so that should help counteract the difficulties.

>dryads are spirits
>bind dead dryad, technically a ghost/spirit thing.
>points out murderers, competition eliminated.
>put it into spirit forge.
>fully developed zombie dryad.

>>24318558
>Murders probably weren't in our circle

>>24318558
We probably shouldn't keep the dryad around, it could be confusing for our daughters when she starts claiming to be their real mother.

>>24318558
>zombie dryad.
>is Seline's biological 'mother'

i see absolutely nothing wrong with this plan.


why are you guys so retarded?

>>24318558
Let's not keep it around, we know that resurrection is a bad plan, we're just binding her for a bit.

>>24318558
>>24318569
I'm pretty sure that the 5th(?) circle Irish chick we found in the first threads was the one that did the purge.

>>24318558
>>24318573
>>24318575
Yeah, let's not keep the dryad bound after the lesson. If we have time we could ask the spirit for some advice on raising young dryads, and assure her that her seeds are safe and healthy.

>>24318575
I don't think the radish would last long enough to survive the spirit forge anyway.

>>24318558
What would happen if we fertalized a dryad in zombie flesh I wonder...

Am I the only one that thinks that selene's 'mom' is not all that impressive?

1 mention of plants being better and we latch onto the first plant thing we remember, all the bonuses in the world for it being a plant spirit don't make up for the fact its mediocre and will put us down in the class ranks, making us and our family a target...

Goddamn people, think these things through ffs

>>24318642
....I would call you stupid but now I'm curious too godamnit.

>>24318649
It beats trying to do something impressive with our 2 dice and failing completely.

Goddamn anon, think these things through ffs

>>24318668
Add some wendigo on top and good 2 go

>>24318400
do the dead dryad good plan.?

>>24318558
not zombi but yea it would be useful to put into the forge.then bind her to some thing nice for our daughters.

>>24318649
She is a ghost, though
That gives bonus points

>>24318649
>Am I the only one that thinks that selene's 'mom' is not all that impressive?

This is a conjuration based test.

Max's Conjuration score is 2.

Failing to summon ANYTHING will give us a 0.

You do the math.

>>24318649
Yeah, the point is we're just trying to pass here because trying to go impressive will just result in abject failure because we are SHIT at conjuration. Stop overreaching. The dryad spirit would at least be easier to bind and also narratively interesting depending on how we can interact with her.

>>24318649
>We are mediocre at Conjuration
>We have no permanent conjuration foci

Trying to do anything more than average in this lesson is a recipe for disaster.

>>24318649
Getting an adequate grade will be fine for this one, we're still in the top 7.

Failing it is a far worse thing than just getting a decent result.

>>24318699
We aren't down at the level of "shit" in Conj. That's where sorcery is. We're just below average.

>>24318699
>>24318689
>>24318713
>>24318705


agree summon the dryad hell use draw all makings on with a sharpie then go slow and carve them.

temp foci use the green at the top of the plant and a lighter

ded

I hate to be that guy, especially because I think the gosth dryad is a good idea and we should do it, but wouldn't that tip off Pierre?

>>24319003
How would it tip off pierre?

>>24319003
Why?
All it tells him is we know that the dryad was killed by DD and everyone already knew that

>>24319003
We don't even know if he knows about her, and even if he did, it says nothing about us that we summon a dead student.

>>24319003
he can not notice us doing wrong, like at all.

>>24319031
Well, he can, but he'll at least hear our side out first, using the "shoot someone in the face in front of him" example from when we hit him with the spell.

>>24319055
and this is not shoot in the face close.

>>24317674
that is basically what drain foci do.
>>24317718
when i asked flat out many threads ago fem said we cant build an aug to improve our chi network directly

>>24317746
the legend of jack of the lantern
Ant the headless horseman to a lesser extent.

>>24318605
she may not like us raising them but if she dose woot

if she counts as a ghost not just a spirit bind her if she is only a dead spirit don't.

just bind someone at random or an old family member we never got to say goodby to then say goodby.

>>24319236
*and
>>24317746
also the prince in howls moving castle. and whatever that got kifed from.

link to jack of the lantern http://merganser.math.gvsu.edu/myth/jackothelantern.html

>>24319236
>that is basically what drain foci do.
not that same at all. I'm talking about something(say an enchanted ring) that stores a whole lot of kinetic energy and when you punch some one with it it dumps all that energy into what you hit.
drain foci on the other hand makes it so you don't get strain from casting a spell.

>>24319362
ok i see what you mean. But drain foci take energy from the environment and dump it into a spell. That can do what you said with an extra step of casting the super punch, but it is the same kind of thing. Foci are much simpler if slightly less elegant.

Did Liz fertilize our second daughter with a few drops of her blood, so that she is spiritually her Mommy more?
When it was brought up right after we fertilized her it seemed like some people wanted it some didn't care but everyone wanted to let Liz sleep. Then we got distracted by the brake and the spirit forge.
If not i say we have Liz do that over this time skip.

>>24319442
right, and if we didn't suck at sorcery I wouldn't have bothered. this way it would be a big one time cost vs serveral small costs and studying sorcery.

>>24319517
>and studying sorcery
we need to get on that any way so the marginal cost of the foci plan is still small.

>>24319511
>Did Liz fertilize our second daughter with a few drops of her blood, so that she is spiritually her Mommy more?

What the fuck, no.

>>24319511
Liz is just a normal human, there's no magical element for the dryad to absorb from her blood.

>>24319547
>we need to get on that any way so the marginal cost of the foci plan is still small.
really I just want it as a magic item not a spell we'd need to cast every time, and making it would count towards studying sorcery

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>show up 3 hours late
>literally nothing has gotten done
Gat dayum, femcock, you typing with that malformed clit of yours or something?

>>24319691
fem died, obviously

>>24319691
Ded net, ded thred.

>>24319713
The stupid in these threads finally killed her. Thanks a fucking lot, Snapple.

>>24319732
>implying fem doesn't get off to our stupidity
If she was allergic to it, she would have died much earlier than now

Okay, there we go. My power went out for a little bit. What are you all going to do, then? What's the plan?

>>24319765
See >>24318495 for a summary

>>24319765
I think some people were thinking to try and summon the dryad that died. I want people to confirm that, though. This might get sensitive.

>>24319765
Sharpie
Carve
Dryad

>>24319786
Actually, question to ask: If we summoned and bound the dead dryad girl, would we be manipulating her in a permanent way, or would we be summoning her temporarily and letting her go unchanged?

>>24319765
>>24319765
outline the symbolizes/pattens we need with a sharpie.

slowly carve them

summon Dead Dryad

temp foci the green part of the top of the plant, and a lighter

>>24319765
Sharpie the design and carefully carve it with an X-acto. I'm voting just a normal plant spirit so we don't overextend ourselves.

>>24319765
These sound ok

>>24319786
>>24319794
>>24319781

>>24319765
I am ok with >>24319781
If the dead dryad counts as a ghost not just a dead spirit.(i assume Max knows this).

If not then that is to much risk when we could just bind someone at random or an old family member we never got to say goodby to then say goodby

>>24319808
if this is true or dead spirits are not ghosts

go with >>24319835
>just bind someone at random or an old family member we never got to say goodby to then say goodby

after carving.

>>24319765
Summon up the dead dryad, it's the ghost of someone we've seen before, so we know what we're going for, it's also a ghost of a plant spirit, so hopefully we will mitigate some of the penalties for it.

I would have questioned if spirits have ghosts, but then I remembered dad planning to summon up the dead tengu.

You decide that the obvious choice here - at least for you - is to try to bind the spirit of the dead dryad girl. Your daughters' biological mother, that is. You first start to work with a sharpie, drawing on the designs for the eventual carving - after all, knowing what you're going to carve is just as important as the carving itself. You end up settling on a vaguely humanoid figure, to make it more familiar and conducive to the humanoid spirit or perhaps ghost or even ghost spirit, along with designs of symbolic and mechanical significance.

Roll Conjuration to plan out these designs. You get a +2 for Calm, a +2 for Focus, and a +1 for Coordination. This will not result in strain; it's just an expression of Conjuration theory. I'll consider the first seven linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 59

>>24319997
Set sail for fail.

Rolled 39

>>24319997

Rolled 63

>>24319997
Here I go

Rolled 87

>>24319997

dice roll, dice roll

Rolled 28

>>24319997

Rolled 65

>>24319997

Rolled 41

>>24319997

Rolled 75

>>24319997

Rolled 68

>>24319997

>>24320018
Oh thank god, we got one.

>>24320018
>1/7
Thoroughly mediocre.

>>24320018
1/4, that'll do.

>>24320018
You did a reasonably good job, you think, making the design. It should - if you carve it right - end up looking something like an ancient fertility idol, along with the arcane patterns and bindings. You take out your tiny utility knife - worthless for fighting, but you've used it a few times on similar projects in class ever since a presentation where you needed one and found yourself lacking - and get to work.

Roll Body. You get a +2 for Calm keeping your body even and regular, a +1 for Coordination making your hands precise, and a +1 for the detailed designs you drew out in advance. I'll consider the first eight linked 1d100 rolls.

>>24320070
>>24320070
we can try again we do have all class lets make sure we do this right.

Rolled 72

>>24320088
Woohoo, more rolls.

Rolled 51

>>24320088

Rolled 78

>>24320088

Rolled 76

>>24320088

dice roll, dice roll x2

Rolled 56

>>24320088

Rolled 97

>>24320088
Time to critfail it into radish paste.

Rolled 9

>>24320088
carve beeg fertility titties

Rolled 56

>>24320088

Rolled 10

>>24320103
>>24320109
>>24320110
>>24320116
4/8 not bad

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>>24320103
>>24320109
>>24320110
>>24320116
Yessssssss~

>>24320103
>>24320109
>>24320110
>>24320116
4/8
Max clearly has a knack for carving fertility idols out of vegetables.

>>24320103
>>24320109
>>24320110
>>24320116
You do a pretty damn good job, you think, even adjusting the design slightly to work along with the root's grain, and not making a single errant slip of the blade. You put the curvy little vegetable statue in front of you approvingly. Liz raises her eyebrows at it - it has gazongas like you wouldn't believe - and Lin grins and gives you a thumbs up.

Now's the part you're less sure of. You're not a great conjurer, after all, and you'll still have to bind it too once summoned.

What preparations do you make? What foci do you collect? Class is more than half over at this point, so while you have time to do a little prep work, you don't really have time to fuck up.

>>24320164
we can use shavings form the radish in both binding and summoning.
to summon a summoning circle
to bind a binding circle

and that is our foci cap for both

>>24320164


temp foci for summing lighter and some of the green top of the radish.

for the binding, use some more of the green top and write a note to her tell her that her seeds have grown int to a beatufull little girl.

>>24320164
Hmm.

Some plant life, I'm sure we can find some weed or something growing somewhere around here.

Something dead would also be helpful, perhaps a dead insect or something if we can scrounge one up.

Can we remember any symbols representing death or the underworld we've covered in class? If so, then draw one of them onto a piece of paper.

A lighter, since the dryad was burned to death.

Rolled 92

>>24320164
Use the parts we cut from the radish as summoning foci.

>>24320272
We can only use 2 temp focii, as of the new rule changes

>>24320224
This

>>24320297
Oh well then, Femcock can pick whichever of those she thinks work.

>>24320272

Do we have like a leaf or something stuck to out cloths from Selene? That could work

>>24320164
For the binding portion of this, a nail would be handy, for afixing things to other things and all.

Guess we could rig up a quick makeshift dreamcatcher with some wood and string as another binding foci if we have time.

>>24320337
or just draw a circle for containment.

We should tell the Dryad girl that we are raising her daughters and that she can rest easy knowing they are well taken care of. After we get the grade, of course, just in case she freaks the fuck out at this news.

>>24320407
Just throwing this out there, not actually suggesting it just yet, but Maybe, if it feels right

we could introduce her to Selene?

>>24320539
We'll save that for when she's older and can understand the implications. Right now it's either not going to phase her, or she's going to be totally traumatized.

>>24320574
Seconded, to be honest, the dryad would probably be happy enough knowing that her daughters were safe. Anything more would just cause all manner of difficulties.

You put together some leaves and burn them in a drawn circle on the desk to try to summon the dryad ghost. With the quality of your Conjuration skills, you're pretty much in the do-or-die category. Maybe you can present the carved radish if you fail?

Roll Conjuration. You get a +2 from temporary foci and a +1 situational bonus from the circle. I'll consider the first five linked 1d100 rolls.

>>24320539
lets do >>24320574 and promise to have her meet her daughters when they are older and wont be so hurt by it.

Rolled 69

>>24320607
Dice, don't fail us now

Rolled 6

>>24320607

Rolled 39

>>24320607

Rolled 61

>>24320607
Oh god damn.

Rolled 51

>>24320607

No grades for you MAx.

Mother fucker.

>>24320617
>>24320620
>>24320621
>>24320625
>>24320626
Looks like we're dropping a few places in the rankings.

>>24320617
>>24320620
>>24320621
>>24320625
>>24320626
FFFFFFFFFFFFF

We're studying our conjuration, god dammit. We need at least three squares in conjuration ASAP. This is unacceptable.

>>24320617

This is the best one, because it was so close but not close enough

Rolled 14

>>24320614
I don't know if dryads care about who the biological mother is that much
I think I remember everyone bonding with the same dryad, regardless of who's seeds were planted

>>24320617
>>24320620
>>24320621
>>24320625
>>24320626
You make the call, reach for the spirit, and... Nothing answers. The leaves just sort of smolder in the circle, and the fertility idol stares up at you with its featureless face, judging you silently. That bitch.

Well, that's it, then. The only way you could possibly salvage this grade now is if you pulled someone aside and drained them, and even then you would probably be cutting it close. Petrov might accept the idol for partial credit, right? You did a pretty great job on that.

What do you do?

Rolled 53

>>24320688
Can we leave the classroom?

>>24320688
Accept it. Use it as drive to improve the fuck out of conjuration.

I suppose we can still try to summon her back at the tower.

>>24320688
How much time do we have before due, and are we free to leave the class as needed.

>>24320688
Check if Liz or Lin are finished and willing to help at all with our strain issue.

Maybe Liz has an extra permanent focus we could borrow!

>>24320724
We can go back to the tower and do it properly with a good set of materials as a meaningful project for conjuration practice.

Rolled 83

>>24320713
no

>>24320688
try for partial credit then
>>24320713
yes

>>24320688

Burn the motherfucking idol and/or use emotional aura to screw the competition.

If we are not getting any grade, then neither are our rivals.

>>24320688
How long we got? Is Liz or Lin done with theirs? If she is, see if they wouldn't mind us taking a sip.
>>24320713
Also this, because we could totally port home, feed, and then come back.

What exactly would the difference between bringing back her spirit and resurrecting her from the dead be? Like will she even be capable of thought or is she just some form of non-sentient spiritual energy or something?

I remember Fem saying back when she first died that it is a horrifically bad idea for any of us to try to resurrect the dead, and it was literally a discussion about trying it with the exact same person we are currently doing it with.

Even fucking worse is if we botch our rules and we accidentally turn her into a suffering chaos spawn like Gaviscon in the beginning, except unrepairable.

>>24320748
Yes, because that will blow over just fucking fantastically with Petrov.

Idiot.

>>24320724
>>24320742
lets not do that till our daughters are ole enough to not be freaked out by it especially if the Dryad is pissed at us.

>>24320688

draining someone during class? not a very good idea, since Petrov already gave us a warning about doing stuff like that.

we'll accept our bad gradeand we will use this experience to start learning more about conjuration.

>>24320761
Talking with the dead is usually a conceptual exchange, not verbal. It works differently than sticking a passed soul into their old body and making them function again. It takes a lot of work and finesse to reconstitute a soul and then attach it to the body. Getting a conceptual message or conversation with a spirit in their underworld of choice is not nearly as difficult.

>>24320688
try again bind a wood spirit to it we only got 1 strain right?

Rolled 71

>>24320688
Wait, don't we have 2 boxes? Don't we have another chance?

>>24320761
exactly. we cant do it for a grade in class.
We aren't up to snuff to do it as a practical exercise at home.
Plus lets not risk making our daughters know there biological mom hates our guts for taking then from there Biological grandmother.

Rolled 37

>>24320816
>>24320821
This, can't we try again?

>>24320713
>>24320725
You're free to leave at any time, with the assumption that you present your project before the end of class and that you not get someone else to do your work for you. You're doubtful that you could coordinate a teleport home, drain, and get back again in time to finish and present your project, but you might be able to.

It might be better than simply giving up, too, especially if it works.

Rolled 9

>>24320816
I think the problem is we need to summon the spirit and then bind it, that requires two uses of Conj. and we only have one Box left

>>24320816
>>24320821
we need to cast 2 spells to complete the project a summoning and a binding.

>>24320761
>What exactly would the difference between bringing back her spirit and resurrecting her from the dead be? Like will she even be capable of thought or is she just some form of non-sentient spiritual energy or something?
She would be more fragments and echoes of who she used to be. Bringing someone back from the dead is trying to glue all of that together into a functional, working person. That's why it so often goes wrong and creates a horrible, deadly zombie.

>>24320840
Tell Liz what we're doing, then teleport back, drain, come back and try again
It's better than just giving up

>>24320840
Ha, shit, I forgot we said we weren't draining Liz for any reason. It WOULD be a problem if she were to pass out, too. Dammit, this got a lot harder than I originally thought.

Where would we end up rolling for speed to determine if we make it in time? Soul to drain?

>>24320863
Would a binding like this if successful and then broken, with the intent of not harming the soul, not harm the soul fragments?

>>24320875

>>24320840

Fuck it, may as well give teleporting home a try.

>>24320909
meant to say do this at the end

>>24320909
What?

>>24320875
Well, what we're effectively doing is choosing between getting a 50/100 or risking a 0/100 to get a passing grade. Submitting now is a failure but won't hurt too much, but risking it risks us submitting late and getting a flat zero, while giving us the chance for a passing grade.

Rolled 29

>>24320863
>>24320840
Femcock, what would happen if class ended without us being on time? Is it worse than just presenting the curved figure?

>>24320942
You would get a 0.

>>24320926
I think he's asking if you have to release the fragments to keep them undamaged through binding. Like, if the carving was burned or broken before we released the spirit, would it damage the fragments?

>>24320933
I don't think the figure would get 50/100
Maybe 10/100
Petrov is an asshole, after all

>>24320933
I can't imagine carving a figure being worth as much as the actual binding.

>>24320950
No, it wouldn't damage them.

>>24320875
>>24320875
yea hell with this we can get lunch to help summon and bind along with a cutting/ or something from Selene should help us grab the spit we want.

Rolled 16

>>24320933
>>24320942
>>24320945

Yeah, if it'ss between a 50/100 and a 0/100 I will always pick the 50/100. Fuck it, lets just present the figure to him and just tell him what we wanted to do.

>>24320965
It has great bazongas, though

>>24320959
Still.

10/100 > 0/100

I don't want to take this chance.

>>24320926
>>24320973
thank you both that was my question

>>24320974
No, Petrov will know if we get someone else to do any of the magic.

We can however send Lunch to gather foci while we drain Breakfast.

>>24320973
Fem, do we have ANY Conjuration left to expend? Can we just do a basic spirit and get a passing grade?

>>24320979
It has gazongas like you wouldn't believe.

>>24320975
It's a choice between a low, failing grade (doubt it's even as high as a 50), and a decent chance at passing. Voting for at least trying to succeed. Teleport home, pronto.

>>24320975
It's not 50/100, it's most likely close to 0/100, the assignment was to bind something to the radish. We have not bound anything, therefore we have failed.

>>24321004
You could still summon something. You couldn't bind it, though.

>>24320688
Risk it, port home, drain breakfast while Lunch gathers foci, port back.

>>24321016
...Could the spirit enter the radish by itself if we coers it with a mind attack?

Wait guys, I just remembered something.

We have drained the lunches already. One hour ago at most. They wouldn't even be awake if we went there.

>>24321009
the carving is wort at least 1/100 even from a douche like Petrove but >>24321007 is right

unless we want to just summon a random ghost and not bind it. A random human ghost is easier then a specific spirit and it is defiantly a ghost

>>24321035
Possibly. You don't have enough Conjuration to know whether there's, strictly speaking, a difference between binding and habitation. For all you know, that could lead to getting failed for attempting something that Petrov perceives as cheating. Or you could ace it for creative problem solving.

>>24321059
I'm pretty sure we've been working on this project for longer than an hour. Remember Petrov was lecturing for a while before we even started.

>>24321079
I figure if we're honest about our methods that would improve our chances of him being amicable to the methodology. Probably a Soul roll against that pessimistic fucker, though, to make him like it.

>>24321079
>>24321109
>Or you could ace it for creative problem solving.

Let's do it. We will try and summon the dead dryad and tell her how good her children are growing up in order to get on her good side.

>>24320979
>>24321005
Petrov prefers older dudes though, would bazongas really impress him?

>>24321109
>>24321079
Lets go for it and be upfront about what we did.

>>24321079
hell lets go for it its our best plan also enchantment binding conjuration binding whats the difference.

>>24321146
Just because he prefers older doesn't mean he doesn't like other things. Maybe he's bisexual and just likes mature partners in general.

>>24321079
Let's go for it.

And work on Conjugation in the timeskip, jeez.

>go to crummy class to give speech
>come back
>the bitch still isn't jammed in the radish yet

Gah.

>>24321203
Conjuration and Sorcery, we should have at least 3 on all stats just to be safe.

>>24321215
Agreed, I know Enchantment is our main focus, but we really have been letting Sorcery and Conjuration suffer for it.

>>24321203
Just waiting for the inevitable berating from Petrov in the vein of "you're so stupid, ghosts and spirits can't be affected by mind attacks, you suck go away".

Beats the alternative.
"Are you trying to bribe me with bazongas!?!"

>>24321304
But it would almost be worth it just to have him say it.

>>24321334
almost but not quite.

>>24321286
>spirits
yes they can, provided it's smart enough to have a mind