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>>24211387

Late is better than never.

> *What* are you?

> Assassin as bait, lead them to Monster in the school.

>>24211387
>[X]Who are you?
Might as well get this out of the way.

...and for tonight’s trap, you’ll:
>[X]Use your Assassin as Bait
>-[]Lead them to Monster elsewhere

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>>24211387
>[]You...what did you do?
REJOICE! The Dream Cycle is beginning! gibbering insanity in 3...2...1

>[X]Use your Assassin as Bait
>-[X]And lead them to Monster in the school

Our Assassin has proven to be rather skilled at running the fuck away from stuff, and Monster is already familiar with the layout of the school.

>>24211387
>[]You...what did you do?
We need some damn context for what we're seeing, or else I predict severe mental trauma in our near future. Especially if we see Mami's "freak out and murder everyone" moment.

>[]Use your Assassin as Bait
>-[]And lead them to Monster in the school
This tactic has been working so far. Don't fix it if it isn't broke.

>>24211387
>"Sorry, I had a nightmare about a blackguard dire mermaid."
>"What are you?"

>[]Use your Assassin as Bait
>-[]And lead them to Monster in the school

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>>24211387
What did you do,
as to the other half... its kinda decided already

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"What...What did you do?" You demanded from the white creature. Caster cleaned himself slightly like a cat before answering.

~You will have to be more specific, Master. I have done a great many things.~ Caster replied.

"Saber and Assassin and the red haired girl. Tell me what did you do to them." You ordered.

~I granted their wish in return for their assistance in fighting witches or demons depending on the timeline. It was part of a long term plan to assist in staving off the heat death of the universe.~ Caster answered, ~I took the most efficient means available to me in any given instance. I prepared the girls as best as possible for combat to assist in gathering the energy needed for such an endeavor. And should the girls fail, I had more systems in place to assist in recouping any energy losses. Everything I did was as much for them as it was for the universe. Am I correct in assuming that you have seen my memories, Master?~

"Yes. Yes, I saw what happened with Saber...with Sayaka..." You mumble.

~I see. Master, Sayaka-chan is already dead. Wasting time concerning yourself over her past actions prior to this Grail War are useless. Please, focus on the tasks at hand.~ Caster answers, seemingly unconcerned with what you witnessed. Part of your stomach churns at the thought of what happened to those girls, but the other part of you sees the logic in Caster's words.

Through the day, you manage to finish the mana generator and that night you head out into town. Caster is draped around your shoulders as you wait in the bushes near the school while Assassin roams the town with your familiar.

[1/2]

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Halfway through the night, the enemy Archer attacks her from afar. Assassin grabs your familiar, and there's a flash of lightning and she's standing on a nearby telephone pole. The enemy Archer fires again, and again Assassin seems to flash and bringing herself and your familiar hundreds of feet away. This game of cat and mouse continues for some time, until soon you see Assassin with your own eyes, bursting out of a transforming and hitting the ground running. Behind her huffs an Archer on foot. "Get back here, you little rat!" She shouts, stopping on one telephone pole to notch an arrow and fire it. Assassin barely dodges and leaps into the school. Archer lets out a cluck of annoyance, staring at the school critically.

[]Stay Quiet and wait
[]Summon another servant to harass her
[]Have Assassin come back out and start a direct fight
[]Have Monster come out and start a direct fight

>>24212085

[]Stay Quiet and wait

We need information before we can act.

>>24212085
>[X]Stay Quiet and wait

Don't tip our hand too quickly. Fighting in the open would benefit Archer, so lets wait and see if she takes the bait,

Also holy shit, an Archer who actually uses a Bow as her primary weapon? WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?

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>>24212085
>[X]Stay Quiet and wait
However, I think we should get a Servant ready
I suggest rider

Capcha:was Japhan

>>24212085
>[]Stay Quiet and wait
I hope that's just the picture you decidd to use and it's not really Archerko.

>>24212085
Stay quiet and wait.
>>24212161
Hope... is such a fragile, ephemeral thing.

>>24212161
>I hope that's just the picture you decidd to use and it's not really Archerko.
What and who now? I feel like I'm missing something again.

>>24212170

That it is.

Well, powerlevels sure are something.

>>24212188
It's from a series of doujinshi about a female version of Archer. Can't quite remember the details, but It's pretty much an older looking Ilya with the powers of Heroic Spirit EMIYA.

You decide to keep quiet and wait. Archer seems to be mumbling to herself as she observes the school. She seems to let out a defeated sigh, and settles into slight crouch on the pole, watching the school carefully. It doesn't look like she plans to leave any time soon.

Derp, forgot votes.

[]Call someone out to help
-[]Who?
[]Wait for her to make a move

>>24212510
>[]Call someone out to help
MONSTER, I CHOOSE YOU!

Lets get the show on the road. Half the point of this exercise was for Coobie to gather data on Monster after all.

>>24212510
[]Wait for her to make a move

Patience is the hunter's friend.

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>>24212085
Stay quiet and wait.

>>24212190
Now that we have confirmed that he steals girls souls you see why I said wish route was a foolish idea. If monster finds out what she did in order to get her wish this way she will, WILL fuck us with all her might. She will also witch out, Remember what happened to Caster in Fate/Zero? Yeah, he pissed off the church.

I will repeat that, he pissed off. The. CHURCH! So your plan will also result in Executors up our ass or every other fucking surviving master coming after us all at once eventually. Do you want to fight Kotomine or Ciel? Because I know I don't.

>>24212578
I second this.

>>24212085
stay quiet and wait. It'll drive her nuts.

>>24212590

Your persistence is admirable. Normally I would argue, as I have in many a thread. I am also 15 or so beers in, so I will not. Another time, friend.

>>24212590
I'd worry about fighting kirei, but by now he's dead, as in apocrypha it is said there is no timeline where he survives the fifth war. Ciel though is another good reason not to go about willy nilly handing out wishes like candy.

>>24211387
>In Saber’s hands is a Flamberge Egg
Just popping in to say that this is an incredibly appropriate typo.

>>24212590
Thats only if anyone figures out it was our fault.

If anyone asks we just tell them that Servant Monster was unstable to begin with, on account of being summoned as MONSTER. The only ones in on the plan are us, Monster's Master (who we'll promptly kill to ensure his silence, he is a rival Master after all), and possibly Tomoko (who we can silence either with murder or seduction).

>>24212590
Why would we allow the blame to be pushed onto us? All we would have to do would be to convince the other Masters that Monster herself witched out, and that we had no part in this.

The only problem would be assassin, as she would know the truth. however, even she can be manipulated to keep quiet. So long as we act as if we are interested in Tomoko Assassin would most likely be willing to overlook what we do, espcially as having Monster witch out will draw the other Masters and Servants out of hiding for us.

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>>24212626
Alright. Remember, I wanted to play this guy as "mostly" heartless. There are things he won't do, but they're pretty bad. Basically like Kerry only not obsessed with helping/saving people. Not actively malicious, won't involve innocents if he doesn't have to, ect...

But, I must emphasize this, he also has practical reasons for this. Start going on killing sprees and you get a visit from Ciel or members of the Mage Association. They will be out for blood. We would very much like to continue living so we don't go full REJOICE mode. It's hard to inspire maximum suffering, and we don't much get a kick out of it. Indeed, feels a bit bad. So we avoid it if possible.

>>24212697
Exactly my point. 7th Holy Scripture will rape our shit. And she may or may not still be immortal. Another reason we do NOT piss off the church. Witches roaming about causing mass suicides will get their attention.

>>24212725
I'm basing the worst case scenario on Monster figuring it all out before she witches out. Becoming meguca is a massive power level boost. She turns that on us? We're boned. Hard. Up the ass. Without lube. For hours and hours and hours. As that is a very distinct possibility I voted against Wish but was overrulled. I told you all, you will regret that choice.

>>24212758
The other masters will know of the dream cycle if they don't already. They'll know we knew, if they think about it, and they will.

This, you think to yourself, has got to be the most boring plan you've had the displeasure of sitting through. Archer spends most of the night moving from occasional telephone pole to telephone pole and sizing up the house, but never once makes a move. At about two in the morning she turns tail and leaves. You spend several tense minutes waiting for her to return before you manage to sneak out of your hiding place. John and Monster come out of the school with a nervous looking Assassin.

"Well, that failed. Try again some other night?" John suggested.

"Maybe, unless you have a better idea. We'll be in touch." You tell him, heading home with your two Servants.

You find yourself waking up late the next morning. You probably ought to...

[]Rest up, go out tonight and
-[]Patrol for Archer
-[]Try another trap
-[]Write in
[]Try and find Archer or her Master's in the day by
-[]Patrolling
-[]Gathering information
---[]At the college
---[]Around town
-[]Write in
[]Write in

>>24212792
>Becoming meguca is a massive power level boost.
To a normal human girl with no extraordinary powers, sure. To a Servant? Who the fuck knows, we're in uncharted territory here.

In any case, we probably won't have to deal with Meguca Monster for very long considering there is a distinct lack of Witches running around, so she'll have no way to purify her soul gem.

Remember, at the end of the day we're a Magus. This might be a once-in-a-universe opportunity to study how evil alien magic interfaces with a Servant. We must do it for MAGIC SCIENCE!

>>24212836

Lets gather some info, we live or die on intelligence.

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>>24212897
Yes.

>>24212889
>>24212792
Remember that we can ask Caster about the Megucas. He knows what keeps them alive. An agile Monster class wishing for strength... she may be sacrificing her Shade for the power she wants. Or she's just gonna be an undetectable tank.
>>24212897
Kirei knows what he's talking about.

>>24212836
>[]Try and find Archer or her Master's in the day by
>-[]Gathering information
>--[]Around town

Bah, I knew we should have jumped her ass. If she wasn't going to barge in to the building at the beginning, she most certainly wasn't going to after having time to think about it.

Anyway, lets gather some Intel.

>>24212889
At the very least they get EX Battle Continuation. Until you blow that gem apart they can't die, period. It also boosts endurance and agility by an absurd amount (see how fast a meguca can move? Imagine how fast a servant could given the same boost). So even damaging them to the point where you can easily target the gem is hard as fuck now. And monster has one HELL of a Stat sheet as is even without knowing her NP.

So yeah, me scared. Which is why I didn't even want to let the chance of that happening take place. I will say it a thousand times. You will all regret this, especially if we actually grant her wish. Best case scenario now is QB saying he can't establish a contract because she's already contracted to her master. He spends seal to break it and we kill his ass right after and RUN! She dies in an hour or two due to lack of mana, and we took out an enemy master without having to reveal our trump card. That's still a mostly good ending.

>>24212956
>an undetectable tank
That in itself is a terrifying concept if you think about it.

>>24212792
>The other masters will know of the dream cycle if they don't already. They'll know we knew, if they think about it, and they will.

The point is that we don't let the other masters know that Caster caused Monster to witch out. The fact that WE KNOW that will happen is irrelevant.

There's no point in crying "But we didn't know Caster would cause that!" if someone finds out Caster did it. If we were in a situation where we were to say that, and for some reason the enemy Master/Servant/The Church let us live long enough to speak, then we probably already lost the war and will be killed shortly anyway. The idea is to not get in that situation to begin with by keeping our involvement a secret.

>>24212993
In a sense he did not. QB made a good point. It was making the wish in the first place that was stupid. We merely provided them the opportunity to make that choice. But we let it happen. We knew about him, we could have told him not to do it, we could have spent a seal to make absolutely damn fucking sure he wouldn't do it... and we didn't.

Also, we met with monster ourselves along with QB. We're already involved to anyone who saw. If Rook lives long enough after she witches out he WILL report our sorry asses to the Church. They will listen, they will send executors. We will die. It'll be his final vengeance. He's into monster obviously, he'll do all he can to fuck the ones who destroyed his lover...

>>24212897
I don't like you Kotomine, but like I said we have similar thought patterns. We do indeed live or die on intelligence in a grail war. You get it, now if only you'd get why some form of morality is actually quite logical...

>>24213114
I think we've been thinking too much with our heads than our guts lately.

You head out into town, Caster draped around your shoulder saying something about an SEP field or something keeping people from noticing him. You stop at locations through town, trying to find out anything you can. At one point, you come across a pawn shop whose owner is complaining about recent gun thefts. You also find out about a family of orphans that just moved into town a week ago. The eldest is working at some news station and the second eldest is going to your college. You also pick up that a young woman at the college who's caught your eye once or twice has been sick an awful lot, lately. And there's been sightings of a ship suspected to be involved with a recent case of piracy off the shore in the pacific. With a sigh, you collapse onto a park bench. While you've found plenty of information out, you don't know if any of it is useful. With a sigh, an older man sits down next you. His black hair is greasy and mangy, and he's wearing a flannel shirt and worn jeans. "Penny for your thought?" He offers.

[]Listen to him
[]Thank him, but refuse
[]Thank him, and leave
[]Just leave
[]Write in

>>24213176
>[]Listen to him

Hobos ALWAYS have good advice in the Pacific Northwest.

>>24213176
Old man? Listen. it will never go wrong

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>>24213136
Guts only get you so far. True thinking is superior to guts. The problem is that most people have limited minds, SEVERELY limited minds. They don't even get what I'm asking when I say: "I have two coins in my pocket that amount to 30 U.S. Cents. One of them isn't a Nickel."

I get a blank stare or an "I give up" 9 times out of 10. Think people. Truly think. The answers is there, right in front of you. You just have to think outside your own self imposed box... Most never even try.

A flash of instinct can make that happen, in the moment, but it can't make it happen 24/7. You want to be in that mode all the time if possible. If you are, you have become a true genius.

>>24213176
>SEP field
I now love you OP. Hitchhicker's guide to the Galaxy is one of my most favorite series of novels.

>>24213176
LISTEN TO HOBO

Oh, and calling it now:
>a young woman at the college who's caught your eye once or twice has been sick an awful lot
Berserker's Master

>>24213188
this is true, very very very true.

>>24213176

>Trust Rose- she's not gonna let herself be wooed by some fancy suit"

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>>24213241
I hope you're somewhat right. Really, I hope you're wrong. We don't want to fight pic related. The master is sick, but Lancelot is one HELL of a servant if he's summoned as Berserker. He only lost because of who Saber was and Kotomine going REJOICE mode.

>>24213247

Blech, too drunk to play. Confusing quests. Will follow. Good luck everyone!

>>24213279
Not trying to say its Lancelot, just saying that "OH GOD I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE PRANA DRAIN FUUUUUUU" is a pretty common symptom of having a Berserker, unless you're a walking ball of magic circuits like Ilya.

>>24213176
>gun thefts
someones in the war hijacking guns because they are either shitastic mages who are trying to boobytrap their home, or archer can snipe and has some sort of need for guns, or shirous father is somehow alive and running around as a magus in this war.

>orphans
guessing one of the orphans is in the war and the entire family is in on it.
>young woman sick alot
thats definitely berserkers master.
>ship causing piracy
AND THATS rider, probably a pirate of some sort, pulling for it being a one piece charactor.

>>24213327
dude, we stole those guns

>>24213327
>gun thefts

That was us bro. We sent our Assassin on a little "shopping trip".

>>24213041
Valid concerns, and I can't really deny them.
We could tell Monster everything straight up on what will happen to her and ask her if it's worth it. We could crush her soul gem moments after it's formed, and then kill her Master. We could keep Rook by us and kill him the moment Monster witches out to stop him from telling the church.

I think we'll just have cross that bridge when we come to it.

>>24213347
>>24213363
ok i forgot, its been awhile.
sorry guys.

"Sure. I could use some advice." You say, sitting up slightly. Caster shifts slightly on your shoulder as you move.

"Well, you look like you're a little frustrated. You might want to just step back, take a look around you, and maybe work on something else for a while. Spend some time to clear your mind. Relax, spend some time with friends or family. Or see if they can deal with your problem. Don't wast all your time focused on one thing." He told you.

"Sensible advice. But what if I'm on an unknown time limit?" You ask.

"Then deal with it as it comes. Be adaptable." He advises.

"Well, I'll take that to heart. Thank you." You say, standing. The grungy man stands as well.

"Well, good luck in the war young man. I guess a cat is fine, too." He says as he wanders away into the crowd drawing your attention back to him and causing Caster to bristle.

[]Chase him
[]Let him go
[]Write in

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>>24212990
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhm6EsRXbk

Also, I just realized that this is a great scenario because of a little addendum I just thought up. It'd let us give Tomoko "The Talk" I mentioned, we just add..

"Everything has a price Tomoko. Nothing in this world is free, nothing. This world is no utopia, indeed, this world is structured in such a way so as to make utopia impossible. This war? This is the price for our wish. If you somehow win, the price has been paid. You risked your life, you did horrible things, and you won. You paid the price, even if you don't realize it. That is why you can have your wish. I saved them from paying that price in the process of paying it myself, I have even paid a part of your price myself in the event I lose. Someone. Always. Pays. Nothing, NOTHING, is free. If you don't understand that, then you have no business being in this war. I do, I understand, I am willing to pay. Ask yourself, what is worth all of this for you? Can you pay the price? Are you willing to pay it like I am? Even love involves pain, you will be hurt by those you love. Is love worth it? I think so, and I am willing to suffer in order to experience it if I find one who is worthy. Are you?"

>>24213637
>[]Let him go
Just back the hell off. If he knows about the War, he'll be prepared for us to pursue him after a comment like that.

>>24213642
I think now is the perfect time to have such a talk.

>>24213637
Go after the Hobo, peaceable like, because he's obviously a cool guy.

>>24213709
>[X]Let him go

>>24213736
Actually, changed my mind.
>>24213637
Chase him

>>24213709
To have such a talk reveals much without the right trigger, might even convince her to kill us. Lectures of Hazama combined with a bit of heart can make people do things, deadly things.

We don't want to tip our hand until we must. Killing monster in that way seems like a dick move, but from a logical, "mostly heartless" perspective, it is not. We do care, in our own way, because we fucking know. Our origin is mind, we think. It is our nature, we can't not.

>>24213637
>[]Write in
Chase him, send our Familiar to Tomoko as fast as its little robot legs can run. If he knows we're a Master, but he might not know about our alliance with Assassin yet. We need an unexpected trump card, and "Jack the Ripper out of fucking nowhere" fits the bill nicely.

>>24213637
>[x]chase him
in b4 its kirei

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>>24213763
>>24213829
I'm getting a certain "knowledgeable old man" feel from this particular hobo.
He must be from the Church.

>>24213790
This. We can't just jump the "Hazama talk" on her for no reason, or else she'll just decide to dump us because we're a dick.

We save it until something happens that shakes her "sunshine and kittens everyone can get along" mindset, and use the Talk to shatter her naive notions once and for all. The reaction we want is "holy shit this guy is right", not "holy shit this guy is evil".

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>>24213799
looks like its time for Jack....
To let 'er Rip!

>>24213884
You. You understand at least a part of my thought patterns. We do need a trigger. We can't just tell her the truth. She'll just reject it out of hand.

To "awaken" the average mundane requires a trigger. They have to see something, experience something, that shakes their own naivete. We will tell her why she was shaken, why things work the way we do, and because of the trigger she won't be able to deny it. We will wake her up even if it is in our dying breaths. Someone has to win this war. If it isn't us, it will be our first ally. Our involvement in this war will have a purpose. Even if it isn't the purpose we would have liked. All things happen for a reason, all things have a price...

You turn around sharply and run after him. He notices you and starts running away surprising some of the nearby pedestrians. He manages to leave the park disturbingly quickly, and you're having trouble keeping up by the time you're chasing him in the streets. He expertly dodges cars, weaving through the moving traffic on foot. Two or three more alleyways later and you're barely keeping him in sight and your chest is burning. You were never that great at physical activities, and your self reinforcement is weak.

[]Send Caster after him
[]Have Caster summon someone to send after him
[]Give up
[]Write in

>>24214017
>[]Have Caster summon someone to send after him
Assassin and Saber. Saber will draw his attention, and Assassin will watch and observe what happens unnoticed.

>>24214017
>[X]Have Caster summon someone to send after him

FOOLISH HOBO, YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THE LOLIMANCER!

[x]Give up

Any more and we will be the one revealing more of our cards to him.

>>24214017
We have an Assassin Meguca. Send her after him. She can keep tabs on him while we chill with Sayaka and formulate other plots. We are Caster's master, and we are smart. We can multitask, and we will because that's the best way to win. Information people... That's what decides the war. Power levels mean shit, compared to the power of the mind. We be Xel'lotath, he's Ulyaouth. We, by our origin, are his natural enemy...

The instant he realizes he's being followed we pull her back of course. Don't want to reveal our cards to more than the too many we've already revealed them to.

>>24214076
This guy gets it.
>[X]Give up
He already knows too much.

>>24214098
this, but if he leaves electrical areas have her stop.

>[x]give up
we can't do anymore without dropping whatever info we have left hidden.
this is a terrible idea, don't persue lu bu.

>>24214017
>[]Give up
Ugh, a Hobo Master? In Tacoma?

Totally a druid, we best beware of Bears. And Elk. Fucking ELK.

You slow down to a stop, panting heavily. Caster jumps down to land at your feet and glances at you curiously.

~Master, should I have someone sent after him?~ Caster asks.

"No...No, we want to avoid tipping our hand any further." You warn him. Caster nods in agreement. "Let's just head home." You say. Caster hops back up and you make your way home slowly. Sayaka greets you at the front door.

"Master? Did something go wrong?" She asks worriedly.

"Nothing. Just...met someone involved in the war." You answer.

"Ah...Then will we dealing with them tonight?" She asked.

[]Sure. We need something new to focus on for a bit.
-[]How?
[]No, let's stick with catching Archer
-[]How?
[]Write in

>>24214454
>[]No, let's stick with catching Archer
I'm not too sure about taking Hoboman's advice now. If he's a Master, he might just be fucking with us.

>-[]How?
Lets have Assassin bait her again, but this time Monster will try for a gank in mid-chase. Archer is obviously too cautious to just wander into a trap, so we'll have to resort to an open-field fight.

>>24214454
Should we take his advice?
Is he tricking us, or looking out for us?
Why do I have a feeling that he is (one of) Archer(s) Master(s)?
I think we should ask John about Archer's "Masters."

>>24214586
this.

>>24214586
One of the other choices we had at the beginning reeked of a Souren Araya. That's archer's master. She has connections. Why? Because she controls them on one level or another. She's been seen with multiple people for a reason. The reason is because they are her puppets somehow. She's pulling the same ploy we are from a different angle. We want to trick people into thinking we have a different servant than we do, she wants to trick people into thinking her servant has a different master. Think people, think outside your box. Our origin is mind, we get it on an instinctual level because of that. We figured out the ancient riddle of the two doors because of that. We think, most don't. Think people, THINK!

>>24214685
She's crafty... but she's not as smart as us. She probably gave us that information through the Hobo to talk us into forgetting about her plans. I'm sure that if we keep pushing and find her, she'll end up trying the diplomatic approach and stab us in the back.

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>>24214809
Indeed. She's Araya. We can't trust shit. I still reccomend we send Meguca Assassin after him. Araya was a puzzle, we will solve it, we will trace the strings of her puppetry back to where they go if we can without her knowing it. Info, info decides who gets the grail. We be pic related if we can help it. We will solve this case, and our allies will love us for it.

>>24214685
>>24214809
>>24214863
where the hell is all this coming from?
Paranoia.mp3?

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>>24215023
It's coming from both paranoia and logic, something the MC is prone to due to his origin. Remember the words of Stalin:

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."

>>24214454
>[]No, let's stick with catching Archer
>-[]How?

Fuck that crusty homeless bastard. He's clearly working with Archer and trying to throw us off the scent.

Lets just go with >>24214577 and pull a surprise doubleteam. We still need to give Coobie time to gather data to see if Monster is suitable for a Contract, so even if Archer gets away we still benefit.

>>24215266
If you think Coobie granting a contract is a good thing... Boy do I have news for you.

>>24215344
We've been over this. Its not a "good" thing, but we're not necessarily a "good" guy. It benefits us because it takes her out of the running for the Grail, and if we're lucky she'll fuck up another Servant or two when she witches out, while we eat popcorn well outside of minimum safe distance.

"I don't know, yet. I need to get some info first." You tell Sayaka, pulling out your cellphone and giving John a ring.

"Rook here." He answers on the second ring.

"Yeah, I need you to tell me what you know about Archer's Masters." You tell him.

"Well, where to begin. I haven't much on them, besides the fact that they're related by blood. As well, they seem to be from a new image family. I got a little on their father, he was attempting to mimic the Edlefelt crest. They're comprised of two young men and a teenage girl." John tells you.

"Right. Thanks." You say, hanging up. Now that you know a little more, you decide to....

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Hey, sorry about the wait. Currently unable to sit at a computer, posting via mobile device. Should be able to sit and post soonish

>>24214863
>>24214809
>>24214685
Wait what? Araya Souren creepy monk dude with the tower. Puppets was Touko's thing

>>24215389
Do this >>24214577

>>24215389
Haven't heard of the "edlefelt" family. What was their crest pray tell? If we know of it IC that is...

>>24215471
Araya had a whole apartment building of people under his control. When I say puppets, I mean people who are under the control of someone else. The people in that building? yeah, they were his bitches. Thus, his puppets.

>>24214577
all this

>>24215513
Edelfelt are a lot like the Tohsaka, but its said that they can split their crest amongst heirs.

>>24215389
Oh, and I'm back, now. got everything straightened out

>>24215471
He used other people as puppets. Ghost chick from the first movie who had people commit suicide? Araya gave her the power to do that.
Fujino, the girl in the third movie who was raped repetitively, went on a murdering spree because she could suddenly feel pain again? Araya did it.
Everything from the 5th movie, obviously, was by Araya.
Guy who spoke the original language from the 6th movie? Was summoned by Araya and he took his damn sweet time getting there.
2nd and 7th movies with Lio? Araya awoke his Orgin and gave him the insane marijuana. Oh, he also stopped Shiki from killing Kouktou because that was not as planned.

>>24215586
Ah, knew it sounded somewhat familiar. Knew there was one family that could violate the "Only one Heir" rule. Still not good, for us I mean. Would suck to face multiple magi with a crest after all...

>>24215639
I'm glad we're not fighting two with the actual Edlefelt crest that teamed up. Together they can summon two Servants for the price of one. Both Servants are really two aspects of the same spirit though. In the 3rd war it was used to get a good Saber and an evil Saber.

...Wait a--
>two aspects of the same spirit
>Archerko

I don't like where this is going.

>>24215389
Lets go with >>24214577
One thing at a time.
Get the confrontation with Archer and QB's "can I turn Monster into an Eldritch Abomination" research out of the way before we worry about the murderhobo.

>>24215639
Also OP, must ask. How many generations has our MC's family been into magic? Kayneth had a bit of a point, though I do ultimately agree with Waver...

>>24215720
You're a fifth or sixth generation mage, its unclear because its uncertain which generation truly finished the crest and began passing it on. Your family records are a little spotty, and the Association tends to ignore your family's existence as an affront.

>>24215695
>archerko + EMIYA
fuck, well i'm not sure guys but i think duelspammed UBW even beats magical girl army.

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>>24215770
Well fuck em'! We're gonna win this and make them see our logic. Akasha is the root of all, ALL FUCKING KNOWLEDGE!!!

That would logically include the mundane. Those luddites are fools, they can't think for shit. We are mind, we are thought, that is why we chose our path. We think, they don't. Because of that, we will win.

>>24215772
UBW takes time to cast, do you really think we'll let him get it off if we can help it?

>>24215858
If one Archer provides cover for the other, giving then each to get a line or two of UBW off in turn, then yes, duelspammed UBW.

Assuming they've mimicked the Edlefelt crest well enough.
Also assuming that they did summon Archerko.

>>24215388
Aaaand then we get Church Executors shoved up our ass. Again, you fuck shit up that bad, the church gets keen on having you head on a pike. I keep telling you all but ya just won't listen. You WILL regret letting QB grant ANYONE'S wish. Period. End of discussion. There are more players on the board than you all seem to realize...

>>24215976
The prospect of facing not one but two EMIYA's is terrifying. I mean, if you had two of them, how could you not win? Just one took like half of Heracles's lives. If you had two? He just plain dies. Not even Gil could beat one. Up against two? Can we say rape?

>>24216040
i believe this is why i was advocating the idea a while ago of operation witchpocalypse, because that feels necessary to kill a retarded combo like that.

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"We're going to pull a variant on our trick from last night. Except this time, Monster will strike early." You tell Sayaka, "And I'll also appreciate it if you stay at the ready tonight."

"Certainly, Master." She answers.

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That night you await in the docks with John as Assassin bounds about dodging Archer's attacks. "Monster, if you would." You say. The straw haired woman nods, and leaps away to intercept Archer and Assassin. Watching through Assassin's eyes, you spot Monster appear from behind Archer, four spider legs arching around her body to stab at the young woman in red and black. Just as she's about to strike, you get knocked out of the connection as John tackles you.

"John, what-!?" You begin, but stop when you see the sword that in the space where you just were. Holding it is a well toned arm attached to a rather familiar looking man. "You." You say stiffly as you and Jonh scramble further back. Caster moves to sand next to you, keeping his eye on the man. Slightly behind him is a young girl, probably in her teens.

~Saber is on her way.~ Caster advised you.

"Archer's master." John greeted her with a slight incline of his head.

"Monster's Master. And Assassin's, I presume." She replies, "You're not the only one with a new friend. Meet Saber."

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>>24216132
I don't think we have time to wait. We need to HAUL ASS.

SUMMON A RIDER.

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>>24216132
Move it move it moveitbygod getthe fuck out now shit!!!
Is that musashi? i don;t care, bet out naow

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>>24216132
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hryHF3kTw

Fuck. If we're up against Jin I fear for our chances. That too was another man of the mind. He gets logic and thinking. And he ain't too bad with that sword. I mean damn is he good with that Katana. If he can use and ES too...

Run. Run for it! Clear out we can't take him right now!

>>24216132
>[X] Summon Joan of Arc as a Saber. Fight Saber to the death.
I am not giving up on this and this seems to be the perfect time to test it!

>>24216132
>meet saber
>theres a group that owns an archer AND a saber
well fuck guys.
that is musashi.

also wheres caster right now out of curiosity? is he doing long range telepathy or is he here? because its kind of weird they think we own monster.
this may help determine what we do.

>>24216263
Let me clarify. OUR Saber fights them to the death. WE hightail it out of there.

>>24216272
He's with you, at your feet right now. And they greeted you and John as Master of Assassin and Master of Monster

>>24216263
BULLSHIT! Now is not the time to be rolling the dice for a Ruler in THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF MAGICAL GIRLS.
We choose a girl for the situation, and NOW is the time for a Rider.

>>24216300
ok.
actually this gives us an utter advantage because they have no clue coobie is caster.
is there some bullshit thing he can cast as caster right now or are we gonna have to think on our feet because that may be true saber if it is musashi, and if thats the case we lose hard in a open fight like this.

>>24216132
Ok guys, calm your tits. Showing your back to the enemy is a great way to get dead fast.

Have Caster pump power into our Saber, we need her here yesterday. Also prepare a Lancer summon, Battle Continuation will let them buy us plenty of time, and (assuming they haven't met the real Lancer) it'll throw the enemy for a loop.

In the meantime, try to get them talking. They THINK both our Servants are tied up with Archer. Let them KEEP thinking that.

>>24216328
QB can teleport. But we don't know if we can ever survive that.

>>24216294
I actually liked Sayaka, but we need someone to buy time and well, we ain't got much choice if we want ourselves to live through this very, very bad turn for the worse without using our trump card.

We order her to buy us time. She might be able to get away after we have, but we have to risk her now. Buy. Us. Time. MEGUCA!!! Boost her if we must, we must get away. And have her survive if possible. Our megucas are disposable, but not all that disposable, if you catch my meaning.

>>24216339
I like you!

>>24216313
If she comes as a Ruler, then hurrah, OHKO.
If she comes as a normal meguca, hurrah, meat shield while we get the fuck out of there.
>>24216353
I meant our newly summoned Joan of Arc Saber/Rule to fight them to the death, not Sayaka.

>>24216343
well i like teleport, because that allows for all kinds of spacial bullshit because of the fact he could just switch places with his magical girls whenever fighting to be confusing the shit out of everyone.

i was still more wondering if there was some sort of offensive type thing eh could do besides crap medukas errywhere though.

>>24216371
Taking out saber would indeed really help us. That is the servant that fucks Caster over the most after all, dat A rank magic resistance, tis the bane of our existance...

>>24216371
big problem is IC we don't have a damn clue if he contracted joan of arc or not.
if we knew exactly who he has to use IC then we probably would have already won the war along time ago.

>>24216372
We have not asked QB for all of his abilities and I do not like this.
He can teleport, he's kindof/immune to mental magic, he can grant wishes and summon megucas. Plus alien magic nobody knows about.

>>24216339
Yes. This.

>>24216353
If possible we should sacrifice a Lancer before we sacrifice Sayaka. Musashi is a duelist, so he'll probably butcher poor Sayaka in short order.

Plus if we have Sayaka fight him they're almost sure to realize we have Caster, since there can't be two Sabers running around. If they haven't met the actual Lancer yet, they might just think we're allied with him as well.

>>24216412
The only possible way to get this information is to risk asking our waifu Tomoko about it.

>>24216420
If he has a way to fuck shit up now is the time for him to fucking use it!

>>24216426
You are right, I admit. Time for the lancer. Just hope he doesn't burn Kyoko yet. She's got something damn close to an NP. Want to save a servant like that for later if we can.

>>24216420
OOC we also know he probably has methods of not dying as well, because of his cloning shenanigans in PPMM
so the big thing is how do WE get out of this, i really don't have many worries about caster right now.

>>24216443
From >>24216443

After all, he did say he could summon one more meguca if we REALLY needed it. And ya know, we need it now, like, RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!

However, this will tip our hand to our allies. Then again, surviving now takes precedence over hiding our shit from our "allies"...

>>24216450
UNLESS those were non-magical clones. We still never found out if they were other Incubators with QB's consciousness or copies.

>>24216443
Ideally, I'm hoping a third Servant showing up on our side will spook them into retreating.

Thinking about it from their perspective, 2v3 against a Lancer and two Gank classes isn't an attractive prospect, even for Saber and Archer.

>>24216442
or just ask coobie, because odds are he actually knows.

i'm also for expending a lancer.

or for maximum shits and giggles, we could expend a caster so he thinks someone lost their servant

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>>24216492
If only Jack were here...

Damnit Tomoko, We need you, help us! Seriously, we'll do whatever you want, even date you, just help us when we need you!

>>24216514
If the should stalk us at any time, let it be today she stalks us the most.

>>24216531
>Call up Tomoko after this
>Us: "Is Assassin stalking me"
>Her: "What!? No!"
>Us: "WELL WHY NOT?"

>>24216531
I know man. We are in SERIOUS SHIT right now. C'mon Jack, we're your ally, we'll remember this. We at least follow the Evil Overlord list. You save us here and now, we'll save you/spare you latter. Maybe just once but still, we know what to do to encourage some form of niceness! HELP US MURDER McBITCHTITS!!!!

>>24216412
Just ask him if he contracted anyone a few hundred years old and well known today. His answer will be along the lines of "Any famous enough girl was someone I made a contract with." Then we summon Joan of arc. This is metagaming as fuck though, and as much as I want to get off a OHKO with Joan, let's have this be a last resort.

>>24216554
GUYS. We gotta say
"I could really go for some TEEEAAA right nooooww..."

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>>24216555
That takes time, time we likely don't have. Again, I'm praying for Jack to save us so we don't have to tip our hand.

Damn, I praying for the Yandere to save me. That tells you just how FUCKED we are right now...

>>24216594
Hahahaha! Ya know, that is a good point. If we die we at least make a good IC reference to the past...

so...do we have a general consensus of what we want to do?

>>24216624
Run around and scream with our heads cut off.
Well, in our heads at least.

>>24216624
Consensus is do anything, ANYTHING, that will save us from a horrible horrible death at Saber's hands that doesn't involve using our Meguca "Army of the King".

If Jack is anywhere near us, now is the time for her to show up. Seriously, unless Tomoko wants to watch us die here and now she'll interfere. NOW!

>>24216624
essentially everyone is flipping their shit right now because the general consensus i think is we just saw musashi who may be actual saber who is really well known and in addition to that is argueably one of the best swordsmen who ever lived.

so the general consensus is we are pretty sure we are gonna get our ass kicked since caster as a rule is shit in an open fight and we are here, and we are deliberating how in the shit we arn't going to die.

>>24216624
Summoning a Lancer and powering up Sayaka to protect us while we're on the run...Right?

>>24216624
"Chill out and talk, prep a Lancer" and "Mount a Rider and book it" are tied it looks like.

I'll throw down for the "Chill the Fuck Out, prep Lancer" option, because running like a bitch and leaving John to his fate would be bad form. What if Jack IS watching to see how we treat our allies while under stress?

>>24216132
OP said SHE! C'mon Jack, Use that NP to instakill a bitch!

>>24216661
Waiting for someone else to do something is stupid.
Let's engage in conversation, they think they've got the upper hand and let's let them keep that. Invite them for tea, go for coffee, offer a bumfuck, whatever. Stall.
Meanwhile, we plot like motherfuckers trying to get any of our many backup plans working and into place as a distraction / legitimate threat. Whichever happens faster.

>>24216677
essentially.
or we could go completely off the rails retarded and summon a berserker

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>>24216683
>What if Jack IS watching to see how we treat our allies while under stress?

OH GOD
We can't run yet then, because if she sees us ditch John she might decide we're an unreliable ally. SHE'S WATCHING, SHE KNOWS!

>>24216696
Too many variables. Who is this master? Is she a True Magus? If she is, she won't want to listen with two master's within killing distance of her servant no matter what we say.

But She doesn't know about Jack. She has a cootch. That fucks her so hard it ain't funny. C'mon Jack, we need ya now more than ever. Tomoko is naieve, not stupid. Off a Knight Class for us!

>>24216742
I never said abandon him. I said run. We use a meguca to buy time he by definition gets time to run too. Logic friend, learn it, use it, and enrich your life.

votin for chill, calm the tits off of sabers master, summon lancer.

>>24216624
Welllll...

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE:
>>24216216 + summon a Rider (same as >>24216313?)
>>24216249
>>24216258
>>24216372 Via teleport (Think that's a vote anyway)

Summon a Saber:
>>24216263 Joan of Arc, hope for OHKO
>>24216396 Joan of Arc, hope for OHKO (I assume that's a vote)

Summon a Lancer
>>24216339 + pump up Saber
>>24216353 + pump up Saber (I think)
>>24216426
>>24216443
>>24216683

Casually chat and buy time
>>24216696


>>24216624
I have no fucking clue. I also have no idea which posts are samefags / posts that were in debate and not actual votes

>>24216812
the via teleport one is mine and that was more of me going off the possibilities of what can coobie do.

my vote was for:
>>24216795

>>24216812
Both of the Rider votes are mine.

"Caster? Give Saber as much power as you can. Get her here as quickly as you can." You mutter before raising your voice as you and John back away cautiously, "Say, John. I could go for some Tea right about now." You say rather loudly.

"Don't worry. I'm certain they serve tea in the afterlife." The glasses wearing girl offered, bringing her hand up in fists as if she's going to fight you. She takes several strides forward, her movement disturbing the low hanging fog.

"Oh? Will you verify that for us please?" A familiar voice says as tthe girl suddenly stumbles and blood wells up underneath her shirt. Behind her stands Assassin, glaring down at the girl as she bleeds to death.

"You cur!" Saber exclaims, swinging to attack Assassin as she leaps out of the way, jumping into the growing banks of fog.

"Ah ah." Assassin taunts as she fades from view. As she does so, Sayaka bursts through the fog from behind you, charging Saber down. Saber curses defending against Sayaka's wild and desperate blows and stabbing her through the chest. She slumps forward slightly, dropping her two swords. Saber grunts, and moves to pull his sword out of her chest when her head snaps up and she grabs his sword with one hand and summons a saber to her other. He clucks his tongue in annoyance and abandons his sword in her chest.

"You've won this battle, then." He accedes before jumping back into the mist as well, disappearing from sight. Sayaka stands there, panting heavily, ignorant of the sword sticking through her body.

[]???

>>24216812
>>24216624

right now majority vote is essentially buy time, summon lancer.

>>24216812
a few of those are me. In all I just want us to live. Any way is fine by me, just somehow not die now without using our ultimate trump card. Summoning a sacrificial Lancer is the best option from that perspective, I'm just praying Jack saves us before it completes, as that keeps us from tipping our hand if it goes down like that.

QB can theoretically port us away, hopefully ports Rook too, as that would show a stalking Jack that we give a shit about our allies. That is good, because she can sneak through our barrier and gut us in our sleep.

>>24216812
and i missed the flurry of decision making while writing. oh well.

>>24216857
[x]make little blue haired girl die less.

>>24216873
Did we... Just kill Saber's master? If so fuck yeah!

>>24216857
FFFFUCKING ASSASSIN.

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>>24216857
JACK! JACK! JACK!

>[]???
1. John is probably wondering why the shit a little-girl Saber AND another Assassin just showed up. Make sure he doesn't flip the fuck out.

2. Medical attention for poor Sayaka.
If she operates like a normal Servant, she should recover assuming the wound isn't cursed (Musashi never used a demonic blade to my knowledge), but this is our first time having a pseudo-servant wounded, lets not take chances.

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>>24216857
Save Sayaka. Don't care how. She did well and we will reward that with our own efforts

>>24216893
no we didn't:
>>24216857
>"You've won this battle, then." He accedes before jumping back into the mist as well, disappearing from sight.
he ran away, the little girl was some sort of puppet.

>>24216873
That's okay. After a few posts of telling me who voted what, I still don't have a fucking clue what was winning.
Let's just go with what you have and move on.
On that note, Pragmatism of letting the injured Meguca fade away and having another one replace her be damned, heal Saber.
I can just feel KOTOMINE KIREI drunkenly glaring daggers at us all through his screen.

>>24216893
Doubtful. My guess is the girl was one of the people Archer was seen with. Meaning we just pissed Archer's actual master RIGHT the fuck off, since according to John's intel they're a family.

>>24216893
>Forgot music to this thought. Something metal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMvkc1NtxVI

>>24216908
FUCK! It's Araya bitch clone then, and Jack just revealed "Holy Mother of Dismemberment" to everyone present. Oh well, better Tomoko tip her hand than we tip ours. We "mostly" heartless, not totally heartless, but logic is the ultimate process through which we make decisions.

>>24216905
Indeed, we care. We help our friends/allies. If only because it encourages others to trust us. Reputation, a most logical thing to build and maintain.

>>24216956
>Jack just revealed "Holy Mother of Dismemberment" to everyone present.

It happened so damn fast I doubt anyone understands what exactly just went down. Its unlikely anyone could figure out the criteria for its activation after only seeing it used once.

>>24216956
>>24216976
Something off the type-moon Wiki on Jack the Ripper's skills:

>Information Erasure (情報抹消, Jōhō Masshō?) is the removal of information regarding the Servant's true name, abilities, and appearance from the records and memories of all witnesses, including the opponent, following the conclusion of an engagement.

> B: This effect is enforced even within digital recordings by a closed-circuit camera in broad daylight. However, evidence of the engagement is not removed from the scene, and by way of logical deduction, the Servant's identity may be revealed.

>>24217027
Oh yeah, forgot about that little tidbit.

Goddamn Jack is scary. I'm glad we've got a dick, and that our Servant is a marshmallow cat made out of broken dreams. Sucks for the Meguca if we ever have to fight her, but at least she can't insta-gank the two of us who really matter.

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>>24217027
Forgot about that! Damn, Jack really is an awesome servant. Perhaps Tomoko didn't draw the short stick like we originally thought she did.

She got a damn good servant, now happy as all fuck she's on our side. We love you Tomoko, even it isn't in the romantic sense.

"Ah, Saber. Are you alright?" You ask her, moving up to help her out.

"I'm fine, Master. I just need more mana to heal this with." She said, pulling the japanese sword out of her with some difficulty. The wound begins to seal itself as you watch, small musical notes surrounding it. She inspects it for a few moments before tossing it aside. "Not even a Noble Phantasm." She muttered darkly.

"So...courtesy of the third Master you told me about?" John asked, gestruing to the deceased girl on the ground where Assassin was now standing.

"Yes. John, meet Assassin. Assassin, meet John." You introduce.

"...Monster is coming." Assassin warns suddenly, moving to stand over by you and Saber. The brown dressed woman appears as if out of thin air next to John. She's bleeding from several wounds, and there's no sign of your own Assassin.

"I'm sorry." She says when she notices your gaze, grabbing her Master and disappearing.

"...I can kill her, if you want." Assassin offered silently.

Write in vote, btw, forgot to add that. And status sheet is updated.

>>24217167
>"...I can kill her, if you want."

"Not at the moment, I've got other plans for her."

Then see if Caster at least got enough data on Monster to give us a yes/no on the Wish thing. That will inform our next move.

>>24217167
Tell Caster to check on our Assassin.
>>24217215
This.

>>24217167
While it warms the cockles of my heart that you would so willingly defend us, I do not think this situation warrants such an... extreme response.

>>24217215
>>24217223
These.

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>>24217167
We hold off. We don't backstab, we front-stab. Also, Our enemy has Saber as an ally, and she has Archer. That's 2 out of 3 Knight classes. We need all the help we can get. We spare them, at least until one of those fuckers is good and dead. We also have a reputation to maintain. Like I said, it is most logical to have one built up. If people know you are not a backstabber, they are much more likely to trust you instead of simply killing you. Unlike Kotomine, I believe morality has a most cold and logical basis. Humanity would not believe in it were that not the case. Thus, I advocate being moral in most cases. Because it is logical, not because I have a bleeding heart. Well yeah, in truth I do, but I don't let my tears blind me if ya catch my meaning. Pic is my kind of person.

>>24217223
Indeed, check our other meguca. We care, we don't see them as "mere" pawns. Pawns they may be, but we won't throw them away for no reason.

>>24217215
Also, in the event our Assassin died, I want her name.

She may have just been a summoned shade of a someone already long-dead, but she wasn't an automaton. She got scared, she drank our cocoa. Even if she wasn't truly alive, it would do us well to remember the names of those who sacrifice themselves to ensure our victory.

>>24217167
Also, we a cleaner now. Make sure that master doesn't find the body. We can't let her use it to get past Information Erasure. We will protect Tomoko, and ourselves in this process. Cremate the body with magic if we can. No evidence, no witnesses. Logic demands this.

>>24217295
Her name was Elly.
She was my third favourite witch.

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>>24217318
>Forgot Mah Pic

>>24217319
Well yes, I know that, but I don't think it ever came up during in-character conversation.

Showing that you care (even if caring won't get in the way of pragmatic decision making) is good for team morale.

>>24217319
That's her witch name, not her real name. Sayaka doesn't call herself Octavia, so Assassin wouldn't call herself Elly.
Make something up OP

>>24217215 here,
voting for >>24217318 as well. There is plenty of info for our enemies to gain from that corpse, if they're smart enough to look. Don't give them the opportunity.

>>24217347
You... you understand. We care, it might not stop us from doing something horrible, but we do care. Us not having a heart isn't "Entirely" true.

>>24217354
Oh yeah, That's her "Handel Name." Her real name is Kirsten. Check the Puella Magi Wiki.

>>24217365
This is why I love /tg/, you people, you can into logic. You think, at least a little bit. More than I can say for those I meet IRL.

"Not right now. We might still be able to use her." You tell Assassin. She shrugs and turns to the young girl on the ground. It truly is too bad what had to happen to her, but she did show up at a fight amongst Servants. Assassin crouches down and begins workings on the body with her array of knives. You leave her to her work and turn to Caster. "Caster, what's the status on our Assassin?" You ask him.

~She took a fatal blow when the enemy Saber stabbed her in the back on his way to support Archer. She managed to at least strike back at him with a small burst of her energy, however. Had I been paying attention I could have perhaps supported her enough that she might have survived.~ Caster answered, ~As well, I can confirm that I can grant Monster her wish. But it may have unintended side effects that I cannot predict, both due to her nature as a Servant and due to her inhuman nature. I would not be comfortable granting such a wish, but if you request it, I shall grant it.~

[]Grant it
[]Don't grant it, we'll find another way
[]Don't grant it, our alliance is officially done
[]Write in

>>24217382
I thought that was all part of her witch name. Huh. The more you know.
>>24217432
>[]Grant it
I'm sorry, but there's just this overwhelming urge to channel Urobutcher.

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>>24217432
[X]Don't Grant it, we'll find another way

We want monster on our side and we have the Tech route still. And if QB isn't comfortable with granting it, I know for damn sure I don't want to against him. If the Devil himself is uncomfortable with something, you fucking KNOW it's a bad idea with a capital B.

>>24217432
[X]Don't grant it, we'll find another way.
All she needs is power. We have the generators and that is all she needs. The only reason she would turn on us is if:
>1 She realizes WHAT she is doing. After the wish.
>2 We straight up leave them.

>>24217432
>[]Grant it

"Even if something goes horribly wrong, we can at least use her to lure out the other Servants. I doubt the Knight classes would overlook an out-of-control Monster rampaging through the city."

ALSO, two things to do before granting it:

1. Give Tomoko the full scoop. Explain to her that even if there are side-effects (which there will be, muahahahaha), that Monster will at least have her wish fulfilled, rather than dying in the Grail War before she can achieve her goal.

2. Explain to Monster that there may be side effects. If the fulfillment of her wish requires her to remain alive and well, give her the chance to back out. I doubt she will though, since as all serious participants in the Grail War know, some Wishes are worth dying for.

>>24217432
So we lost our assassin? Damn, I liked her. Oh well, this is a war after all. Casualties are inevitable. If only we could have given her another cup of coco...

QB sac'd her because he wanted to free up a space for someone else. He was paying attention, he just made a coldly logical choice. He has no emotion people. He has but one goal, and will do anything to achieve it. Indeed, this might be a ploy to get us to burn a seal to resummon her. He's that kind of asshole...

>>24217432
[X]Don't grant it, we'll find another way.
We do not need more wild cards at the moment

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>>24217382
>>24217458

The name Kirsten is in the brackets

>>24217432

"I suppose our Assassin already died a long time ago."

>[x]Don't grant it, we'll find another way

But lets been Coobs opinion on that matter secret. Just say the he is still unsure.

>>24217432
>[]Don't grant it, we'll find another way

If Coobie doesn't want to grant a Wish, thats a pretty big red flag. The little guy is crazy for wishes.

We'll look into the mana generator route next i guess. In any case, a continued alliance with Monster is a good idea if two of the Knight classes have teamed up.

Oh, and COOBIE, WHAT WAS ASSASSIN'S NAME? We must show proper respect to the fallen.

>>24217547
Indeed, no need to reveal all the information. Just say that he's still unsure and that the Tech Route is still pretty much guaranteed to work.

Also, if we get our wish granted, we can grant theirs much, much faster. Remind them of that.

>>24217599
But maybe he's pulling everyone's leg. They only die if the soul gem is shattered. Unless Saber landed a hit on it somehow, she's technically not dead, just looks like it. A bit more mana and she's good as new.

>>24217626
Something just occurred to me:

The Grail won't grant a wish until only 1 Servant remains. If we fulfill Monster's wish via the Tech route, that means she's alive, and consequently the Grail won't be filled.

We either need to hack the Grail (not impossible i suppose, since we've got Caster), or this won't work out in the long run.

>>24217663
Now ya thinking! We DO have caster, it's pretty much his job to hack it. It's like... A tradition!

>>24217653
Remember our pseudo-servants aren't proper Meguca. They're just shades summoned by Caster's Noble Phantasm, and as such don't have Soul Gems.

If they did, they'd start exploding into Witches if we kept them around too long.

>>24217679
And what can't ya do with alien maguc?

>>24217679
Forgot to add, we ARE planning on killing our little bastard at the end. Can't trust him for shit. So we can still make it all work out, because we ain't too keen on QB surviving this war.

>>24217684
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps our mana is cleaning those gems as they're used up. We don't know everything yet.

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>>24217663
Plans of hacking the grail is a prerequisite of being summoned as a Caster.
We should work on this. Perhaps summon a Caster Meguca, send her to a ley line to gather mana to send to coobie. After that...
...How do we hack a grail again

>>24217711
Well assuming it functions basically like the one in Fuyuki, we would first need to find the Great Grail (the giant-ass magic circle that facilitates the whole ritual) and start poking at it.

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Lets see who do we have
>Monster (ally)
>Caster (our servant)
>Assassin (ally)
>Saber (enemy)
>Archer (enemy)
>Lancer (unknown)
>Rider (unknown)

I got a feeling that the monster class has replaced berserker.

Pity, I was hoping to see the pic as a berserker. and then the quest will reach a DEAD END!

Well, I'm going to call it a night, folks. We'll pick up next week, hopefully at an earlier time. If you guys have any questions you might want answered, leave em here. Hopefully the archive will pick em up, and they might be covered in the twitter or the story proper.

>>24217432
Don't grant it. Our alliance is damaged. We need a larger return from them now. It is Monster's fault Assassin died, If she had fought harder, they both could've gotten away I'm sure.

>>24217761
Who said there was only 7 masters involved in this? Nobody that's who. Like I said, more players on this board than we realize or even think. We know nothing until it is confirmed. Remember that.

Really, REALLY don't want to fight Guts. He might make it through our meguca army and gut us.

>>24217780
>It is Monster's fault Assassin died
Hey now, nobody had the slightest idea that motherfucking Musashi was going to jump in on Archer's side mid-fight.
Throwing the blame on Monster just seems like an arbitrary dick move.

>>24217779
Thanks for the thread OP. Sad Assassin died, wanted to get more of her character, but oh well, this is a Grail War. People can, nay, will die. Just glad it wasn't us or our non-servant allies.

>>24217780
If you're going to be like that, why not blame Tomoko for not making a contract with coobie to give us the grail?

We've got thousands of megucas, losses are to be expected.

>>24217832
They don't know that, best we keep it that way.

>>24217825
Well... except Sayaka.

Motherfucking EX Battle Continuation. Holy fuckballs.

Also, Musashi's NP is totally going to be the bokken he used to kill Sasaki Kojirou. If he pulls out a wooden stick, run like hell.

>>24217832
okay, maybe a bit hasty on my part, but I'm thinking monster's a bit more durable than our assassin, and since the blade musashi used wasn't even a phantasm it would be like paper cuts to a real servant, minus Tsubame-gaeshi type hax swords moves. Maybe its late and I'm tired, so I'm gonna let that bit go, but... well, monster's a scheming servant in any case

Also archived here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24211387/

>>24217869
Only two things I've seen that might qualify for her. One is the girl from Waseuregumo (aka Spider Loli), the other is the spider girl from "Wicked City" I believe it was called.

Either way, they are useful, but they are not to be trusted. We will use them for now. Once the knight classes are good and dead, front-stab the fuck out of them!

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>>24217432
[] Grant it
Yoloswag

>>24217887
If it helps at all, here's what she told us when we asked her why she is after the Grail:

>"I'm doing it for my people. My Master, my family, my home. I want to help them all. Watch over them all." Monster replies from above, "I either need the grail for my Incarnation, or an immense source of power.

I'm no expert on spider-girls, but it might give a clue to someone more informed than I.

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Oh... oh my. Taking a look at Archer's stats now, and they've removed all doubt from my mind that it's Archerko.
Aside from Agility, Mana, Magic Resistance (which are all a rank up), and Alignment, they're identical to EMIYA's stats. Keeping in mind that Archerko is just Ilya with Shirou's powers, those changes make sense.

Archer's stats for reference:

>Spirit: EMIYA
>Japanese name of spirit: エミヤ
>Master: Rin Tohsaka
>Alignment: True Neutral
>Strength: D
>Endurance: C
>Agility: C
>Mana: B
>Luck: E
>N. Phantasm: E-A++

>Class skills:
> Independent Action B
> Magic Resistance D
>Personal skills:
> Clairvoyance C
> Eye of the Mind (True) B
> Magecraft C-

>>24218206
Ugh, that counters us hard. Our NP is good, but its not Army of the King good.

This looks like a job for our favorite yandere serial killer.

>>24218206
Noticed that myself, was too tired to go verify it for sure. Not sure if she has all of is shit, especially Eye of the Mind. But I'm not totally familiar with that character. I ain't a Nasuverse Encyclopedia. Getting Eye of the Mind (true) means you've been through a fucking ton of battles.

We can still punch through UBW though. It's still pretty much Army of the King, and who the hell said we'd just charge like Iskander? No, we surround her with megucas and attack from all sides (including from above, never forget the 3rd dimension). It's at least "Delusional Illusion" good. Assassin got fucked because he just up and revealed all his clones. If he had been truly serious he might have been able to gank someone before going down.

>>24218237
Good point. I said Tomoko lucked out by meeting us, perhaps we lucked out a bit as well. She can kill anyone who lacks a dick, we are there to kill anyone who does. It's a profitable relationship.