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First 102 threads:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/23072794/

Wiki:
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Blatant_Fetish_Quest

Previously on Blatant Fetish Quest, our protagonist, Max Power, learned that 'he' was actually a female with male genitalia, as a result of having an incubus as a father. Three years later, Max flew to Romania to enroll at the prestigious Scholomance, a school for magic, meeting Liz, your new girlfriend, on the way. On arriving in Romania, you learned that the Scholomance is extremely deadly and that only half of each class proceeds to the next grade each year.

You joined the Lotus prestige society, and befriended Lotuses. Upon arriving at the Scholomance, a city-sized school hidden in a cave that's bigger on the inside, you discovered a tower and found your father chained up in the basement.

You're currently trying to balance Dextra Domini, rivals, commitments to your society, relationships, and studying while trying to survive. You're more than a month and a half in. Liz made it into the Society of the Archmagi. Your dryad hatched and your mommy-instincts kicked into high gear. You were nearly taken out by a mysterious attacker. You're just got back from trip to Paris.

You just finished disciplining Liz and checking out the modifications that Lin made to your spell.

What do you do now?
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>>24136818
well we don't need sleep make another foci for the emotion spell
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>>24136818
Make foci for the emotion field. Also, do we need to sleep tonight, or can we make it through tomorrow on that extra we got in Paris?
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>>24136818
New emotion spell focus, failing this project will be bad for our rep.
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>>24136887
This, also make a couple film canisters of temp foci to use in class.
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>>24136818
New emotion spell foci.
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>>24136887
You can probably make it through without really pushing yourself.
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>>24136938
That must have been some awesome pulled pork.
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And we did succeed on that last roll to look at the modifications Lin made to our notes.

Was it anything important or usable to make some improvements?

>>24136938
Ok, thanks.
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>>24136818
Okay, we just did that roll for reading through Lin's notes on our stuff.

Let's make more Foci for the Emotion Field, get a few Drain Foci in there.
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>>24137001
I'd imagine having to try to cast it more than once to get it will drop our score.

We should still make one, though.
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>>24136938
Let's take a look at Liz's project, make sure it's Meal and Fap proof, then go check on Selene. I assume we should have the "Why did you make mommy cry, momma?" talk with her before Liz wakes up.
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>>24137024
Maybe it will, but it's better than failing on the second as well, and Petrov might want multiple applications of it.
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>>24136818
anything special in the notes Lin made?

we shold asembel 2 full sets of temp foci for tomorow and pack them in our school bag

>>24137096
this

then start in a drain focus for the field.
we should make 2 drain for the field spell. then move on to one boost.
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You decide to go make another emotional field focus. You go grab more of the temporary foci you had been using and two of the permanent focus-crafting foci.

Roll Alchemy to make a new focus. You get a +2 from temporary foci and a +2 from permanent foci. I'll consider the first seven linked 1d100 rolls.
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Rolled 78

>>24137265
>One throne
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Rolled 100

>>24137265
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Rolled 64

>>24137265
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Rolled 55

>>24137265
Fine.
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Rolled 40

>>24137265
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Rolled 96

>>24137265
focus
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Rolled 29

>>24137265
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Rolled 75

>>24137265
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>>24137280
>>24137283
>>24137304
Awesome.
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>>24137265
Oh for crying out loud, why didn't you anons make a drain focus for the field? We already have the normal field foci.
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>>24137371
Three of them in fact.
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>>24137383
We have well over 12 hours left and enough focus crafting strain foci to craft 100% of the tim until class starts.
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>>24137403
Scratch that. Not well over 12, but still a lot.

I think it's about 9 or 10pm ish atm
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>>24137403
You're point being?
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>>24137436
You don't need to get upset over the lack of strain focus right this second when we have time to make something like 10 more foci.
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>>24137403
unless we finish all of our foci faster than normal then we have a perfect excuse to finish the communal set of foci drain foci.

>>24137371
>>24137436
we need more regulars than drain for our demonstration though a few drain is also important.
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>>24137424
Time to put Selene to bed and check icedryad nutrient levels then?
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>>24137468
second we need to read our daughters a story.
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>>24137457
Given how we tend to suddenly change focus I worry, but you are right.
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>>24137486
Yeah, I'm kind of assuming that the spirit forge isn't going to go nuclear tonight.

Overly optimistic, I know.
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>>24137482
Or, given how quickly she was learning to read, help her read a bedtime story to us.
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>>24137280
>>24137283
>>24137304
Without any muss or fuss, you enchant another of the symbols on your back to be a permanent focus for emotional manipulation fields.

It's about 9:00.

What do you do now?
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>>24137529

ok lets make one more strain reduction Foci.
>>24137371
>>24137383
>>24137403
like these gentlemen want
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>>24137529
Could we go ahead and roll 4d100 to make the next four? Or however many we decide to have at once, really.
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>>24137529
>>24137506
>>24137468
>>24137482
this
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>>24137504
Oh it won't go nuclear, but maybe we should find a way of setting up a calming/passification field at the door to the storage room in case the thing breaks out of its jar and tries to escape.
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>>24137550
yes pleas
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>>24137529
I suggest we do >>24137096
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>>24137550
Lets do this. We're just going to craft foci all night(or most of it) anyway.
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>>24137529
Make sure our daughter isn't traumatized by hearing Liz breakdown crying after our tongue lashing.
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>>24137529
First do >>24137551

Then do >>24137550
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>>24137563
this is a good plan

but >>24137096, >>24137627 and a story first >>24137551
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>>24137529
Let's go see how our dryads are doing.
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Sounds like some of you want to keep working on foci, some of you want to check on the dryads, and some of you want to check on the spirit forge.

What's the consensus?
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>>24137771
Check forge, then dryads, then more foci. And roll for multiples at once.
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>>24137771

Im cool with ths >>24137789
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>>24137771
this is the plan >>24137789

we should also double check the forge at like 1:00 o'clock.
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>>24137789
This.
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>>24137789
Snaps got it
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>>24137771
Check the the forge is secure (it's too early for issues to develop, I hope) and then check in on Selene.
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>>24137789
Seconded, sans multiples.
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We really should focus on building up our Mind stat, we're like 2 fucking improvements away from a whole new box.
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>>24137789
I... i .. completely agree with Snapple.
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>>24137851
No. Because lower mind score means lower cost mind augments.

And mind augments are the ones we use most.
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>>24137849
Second this.
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>>24137864
we should do a bunch of mind augs if we are still on camera tomorrow night.
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>>24137851
Learn how to read and write the Word, learn the guitar, so much can improve a mind.
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>>24137911
no see>>24137864
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>>24137864
Wait, what? I thought the augment increase only affected direct augments, not secondary stats like focus.

Like if we tried to augment Mind +1 then... no wait, nevermind, I think I misread the explination for it.
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>>24137925
yea about that.... thats not how getting augs work. having a higher mind score helps us get them quicker. a lower score is better for use on some one else, so thats wrong. the entire thought is wrong... yea.
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>>24137911
I thought learning Word actually improved our soul instead of mind due to some weird quirk of the language.
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How about we improve our focus skill, then use the emotion field on our self to focus even more?
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>>24137966
No, it's not. The number of successes required to acquire a mental augmentation is some multiple of your Mind stat, and is gained through the rolling of Enchantment. Having high Enchantment and low Mind makes acquiring mental augmentations fast and easy, and vice versa makes them quite the opposite.
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>>24138009
o never mind that just odd
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>>24138009
So what you're saying is that being retarded makes it super easy to focus?

I guess that explains idiot-savants, then.
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>>24138029
Not really. Its harder to paint a model thats already been put together than it is to pait piece by piece.
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>>24137966
no it takes more successes to boost a higher score with an augment.
To add a new level requires the new level times the associated stat successes.
a level 1 with mind 2 is 2, 3 with mind 3 ect
a level 2 with mind 2 is 4, 6 with mind 3 ect
a level 3 with mind 2 is 6, 9 with mind 3 ect
ect

see
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:Blatant_Fetish_Quest#Self_Enchantment
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>>24138034
No, being less intelligent makes it easier to break down the normal structures of your mind and remake them to be magically better at specialized tasks. There's a certain level of automatic and involuntary resistance both to mental augments with Enchantment and physical augments with Alchemy, which is why the required number of successes is defined by Mind and Body, respectively.
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>>24138034
No, being shit makes it easier to improve.
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>>24138086
the exponential growth in resistance for any but the weakest minds or bodies is pretty harsh though.
especially because 1s get a linear increase.
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>>24138034
>>24138075
>>24138131

perhaps we could some how make our selves temporally retarded to get a very high focus/memory,

perhaps with the mind fork, make it super dumb but good at enchantment, have it constantly up focus//memory/sanity/ then sink up with it transferring the enchantments
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>>24138131
Mind and body also act as your hp stat for mental / physical attacks.

Sure they get easier augments, but 1ers get insta knocked out if they get one less success than someone attacking them.
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>>24138154
no
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>>24138154
The idea was to give ourself temporary susceptibility to enchantment/augmentation/sorcery etc over summer break and augment the heck out of ourself. Dropping our base stats or taking vulnerabilities during the school year is asking for trouble.
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>>24138205
the idea of intentionally lowering our base stats at any point in time is exceedingly stupid
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>>24138205
thats why it wouldn't be us but a fork with the lower stat if it could work like that it would be all the benefit of lowering our mind with out the risk.
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>>24138228
True. But I expect getting +5 and greater augments is going to take some risk.
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>>24138131
what i mean is that you can keep the same fluff and idea but make all augments grow linearly or at the same exponent with a flat modifier for the mind stat
so the equation is (New level*Fixed factor)+Stat

heck we could even learn this as a refinement of the art when we become a full member that way there are no retcons.

>>24138166
I know my CS training just makes me HATE the jump from linear to exponential increase. my god this method blows right past quadratic and makes me wonder if Carl isn't 3-4 in mind and body with piles of augs.

>>24138228
>>24138205
>>24138166
yes lowering our base stats is dumb recovering from that trauma would be horrific. Plus Liz likes us buff.
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>>24138250
I don't think that would work because it's the complexity of the augment on our mind, not the fork's, that is rate determinant.
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>>24138266
Living alchemy would make the recovery not so bad. It's probably what Carl did.
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>>24138205
3 problems
1 we don't know how to remove an aug so there are no temporary augs
2 vulnerability augs are a linear solution we are facing an exponential problem.
3 lowering and recovering our stats requires a large amount of time and delays our overall improvement horribly.
Not to mention the externalities in the last 2
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>>24138325
I am not so sure look at Dane and when he borked his adrenal glands.
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You start with Liz's spirit forge. You head up to the storage room and root around in boxes until you find it tucked away. It's hard for you to tell whether it's just very warms or actually hot, but it's not it's not melting the wax, which means it's still fine, right? You stash it back where it was, the climb on down, looking for Selene.

You find her sleeping in your dad's arms as he works on the wards. He's singing some kind of lullaby in the Word. You take her easily from him without waking her. "I'm glad that both of you can hear the Word," he tells you, smiling. "All of my favorite old songs are in it. I hope your new daughter will be able to. I'm not sure how it interacts with spiritual beings unlinked to our past one way or the other."

You carry Selene up to her room, tucking her in to her crib. You'll need to make a proper bed for her soon too, both because she's growing and the new baby will need the crib. You give her a kiss on her sleepy forehead, then climb on down to the old jail level. The new dryad seedling is growing just fine. You check moisture levels and pH values and everything seems mostly in order. You spritz the plot a few times with enriched water, then stretch.

What now?
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>>24137771
Let's see Selene.
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>>24138429

Liz might need a little more emotional reinforcement. Go up to where she's sleeping and cuddle up.
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>>24138429
More emotion field foci.
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>>24138429
I personally think that we should use some of our fluids on this seedling. It will give her a dick just like her big sister, tie her to our bloodline in a spiritual sense, and guarantee that she has certain talents of our family, like the ability to understand the word. I think not doing so is like actively choosing to exclude her from what we have with Selene. Plus, based on what Sam said and what we read before, it shouldn't even interfere with her other talents, she just won't have the opportunity to reach her true potential with Enchantment.

I know I'm not in the majority on this. I just feel the need to voice my opinion on this one last time before we miss our window of opportunity.
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>>24138429
Make 1 or 2 Strain Foci for our Emotion Field.

Then we can check on the Pets.
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>>24138429
>>24138429


make a drain mitigation Foci for the emotion field spell. lets do it down by dad, so we can here him sing I think that would be nice.

also dad has a good point what in christian mythology is good at making things?
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>>24138478
I actually agree with you. I was against it when I thought it would interfere, but I'm all for it now. Why not make our daughter related to us if we have the opportunity?
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>>24138478
well maybe we could ask sam for help there but I am not sure of another dick girl daughter and we want complementing fertilizer what in Jewish,christian,or islam stories is good at making things? or very strong?
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>>24138429

Work on foci in the same room that dad is working on the wards. Might as well talk while we work.
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>>24138554
Jewish clay golems?
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>>24138554
The point is more of her being directly related, by virtue of spiritual essence, to us. As long as it won't actually interfere, what possible reason could we have not to? She's our daughter for fuck's sake. She should at least get to be as related to us as her sister if she can be.
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>>24138554
Hair of Samson? But that might also insert a fatal flaw...
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>>24138478
I am ok with it now for the same reasons.

We should also add a drop of Liz,s blood for that reason.
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>>24138580
Oh, I've got you. In that case, yeah, we should get some of our cum/blood in the planter right now and be done with it.
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>>24138478
>>24138534
>>24138580
the imprinting makes them our daughters and our love for them.Our fluids dont sink well with her other ingredients

>>24138504
do this and good question.

>>24138566
yea see if we can get some clay from one ask sam that should be close enough to help
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>>24138478
She's our daughter no matter what, I think she'd be better off without the distraction of Enchantment.

She doesn't need a dick or to speak some weird language to be our beloved daughter.
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>>24138580
Hmm, seems kind of hypocritical after we told dad off and failed the soul roll. I can see it going either way between mending fences and burning bridges...
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>>24138615
I agree. Diluting her abilities and reducing her potential for sentimental reasons is a waste of effort.
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>>24138628
Then we could go tell him that we've thought about it and, while she's still our daughter no matter what, if it doesn't hurt anything, then there's nothing wrong with being related by blood, or essence, or whatever too.
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No more foci, please. We're going to need the tattoos for other sutff.

Instead, have we actually finished the emotional field spell? How about we continue to develop it?
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>>24138668
We go over this almost every time we start enchanting the tattoos.

We are never going to fill them up over the course of t he quest. We have thousands of words tattooed on us that can be made into foci.
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>>24138478
>>24138580
>>24138605
doesn't work well with the other fertilizers
I would rather them be the best they can be rather then needlessly add a bit of us to complicate things
>>24138566
this could work

>>24138504
yea make it near him the sinning is nice if it doesn't interfere with us crafting.

>>24138668
we have Thousands of tattoo potential foci and we want at least 1 strain reduction foci for the spell. after that we can work on it more.
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>>24138640
Strictly speaking, the evidence you've gotten isn't that anything will be diluted or that her potential will be reduced. Rather, she'll have to pick between Alchemy and Enchantment, because she won't have enough time for both growing up, as her focus. The problem is having so much potential that most of it gets necessarily unfulfilled. This is why dryads with tons of fertilizer ingredients aren't strictly-better than focused ones; they also aren't worse.

The only reason not to include more ingredients are not wanting to waste the time and effort to acquire them, not wanting to give the dryad the option/temptation of trying to diversify, or not wanting to for personal/sentimental reasons.
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>>24138628
then we tell him what Sam said and that we have reconsidered it in that light of that and her being more related to us and her sister not hurting her. Then we also Add some of Liz's blood because Liz is her Mommy.
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>>24138668
According to FemCOCK we have a technically finite yet functionally inexhaustible number of Foci slots on our tattoos, we have a fucking epic poem written on us and every word/letter is available, thousands upon thousands of potential Foci are on our skin.
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>>24138668
For the last damn time, there's literally thousands of different pieces to use already, and we may get even more. Unless we bind an elemental to ourselves that automatically enchants words all damn day, we're not going to finish this off before the end of the quest.
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>>24138580
Of course she's our daughter, we are directly responsible for her existence and we fully intend to raise and nurture her. Plus the imprinting settles the issue. Is Apple any less Domino's daughter for not being fertilized with his blood/bodily fluids?

We should probably see if we could get another syncing reagent to boost icedryad's combat ability and alchemy skill, not muddle the mix with our own focused skill set.
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>>24138701
Well fuck it then. Let's tell dad we thought about it really hard and we're super extra duper sorry and he was right.

And then we wank on our daughter.
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>>24138701
That settles it for me, then. We have absolutely no reason not to add ourself to the mix. There's nothing to lose here, really, by doing it, and everything to lose if she feels alienated from her family because she can't speak the Word or whatever.
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>>24138730
second and wake Liz and add some of her blood.
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>>24138730
Out of context that sounds so fucked up. But we have to jizz on the plant.
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>>24138751
>wake Liz and add some of her blood.
The fuck? Why?
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>>24138701
Thank you! I've been trying to get people to understand that for dozens of threads now. They had completely forgotten what you said in the first place.
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>>24138701
O in that case ask dad to wank on it for us, hell ask sam for some fluid too that way we are sure to get Word knowledge, and enough enchantment ability she can just pick better what to do her self.
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>>24138737
>alienated from her family because she can't speak Word...
Ok, oddly enough that just swayed me, so that's how we explain our change of heart to dad. Also, we're eventually going to have to find a way to teach Liz without driving her insane.
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>>24138701
I still dont want to do it.
>>24138789
Her last sister wont speak it either if this is even an issue.
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>>24138751
One, human don't add traits as far as we know. Two, Liz is pretty exhausted so let the woman sleep,
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>>24138767
we want her to be her other mom it is the same reason we are jizing on her. I guess some of her hare is ok to.
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>>24138811
Why wouldn't we add it to her last sister too?
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>>24138824
Hair. Are you the same person who was spelling 'wait' as 'weight' earlier?
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>>24138827
If we don add it to this one we dont need to add it to the last one either
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>>24138824
It doesn't work like that, yo.
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>>24138813
I want the family ties anyway one and it can wate till tomorrow i guess.
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Fucking hell, femcock, I blame this all on you. We had everything sorted out until Dad brought up his grievance and Sam reinforced it.
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>>24138811
Can't be that hard to get blood from an angel given some sort of dominion over fire.

its much much harder.
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>>24138834
yes

>>24138839
why
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>>24138865
Is English a second language or something? If so, good job, that's a damn sight better than I am with Spanish. If not, learn to spell.
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>>24138824
You realize that our jizzing on her contributes no genetic information to our daughter, right? It's symbolic and gives her a set of traits through magic, but they won't be passed on to her daughters or any subsequent generations of dryads.
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Okay, then. Are you going to fertilize your second daughter with yourself right now?

A simple yes or no vote linked to this post will suffice.
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>>24138908
No
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>>24138908
Yes.
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>>24138908
yes
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>>24138908
Yes. Apologize to dad too. He may want in.
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>>24138908
yes
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>>24138908
Yes
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>>24138908
yes (also ask dad to)
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>>24138908

yes
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>>24138908
No.
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>>24138888
yes I do i want that same symbolic link she has to us to apply to Liz. I assume a human can contribute it and not just a spirit. If not i see no harm in it.
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>>24138908
No.
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Since adding more things doesn't hurt, can we add some marijuana to her soil so that her leaves can be used as temporary enchantment foci?
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>>24138908
No
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>>24138908

is there anything mentioned in the texts we studied about the timing of fertilization and it's effect on the dryad
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>>24138908
No.
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>>24138908
No.
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>>24138965
Sure, but with Liz it will be purely symbolic (unless FemCOCK decide to pass on a Mind boost, but that doesn't seem likely) since humans don't contribute traits (accept maybe aging faster, but that's a guess).
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>>24138979
>>24138990
>>24138998
Lol at alternating the period / no period to avoid the same message filter
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>>24138908
No
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>>24138908
Yes.
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>>24138987
No, but we should get some for the garden they produce tones of oxygen.
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>>24138908
No, we have enough fuckin dickgirls already.
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>>24138908
yes.
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>>24138908
No
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>>24138987
Add it to the third one. She's a party plant. And dragonblood already makes her lazy anyway.
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>>24138908
Yes
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>>24139016
If you wanna play that game, look at >>24138915
>>24138917
>>24138918
>>24138922
>>24138929
>>24138931
>>24138937
>>24138965
Every single one was a grammatical permutation, plus Snapple is known to both take off his trip to reinforce his own opinions and to roll twice.
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>>24138987
>>24139030
dito

Besides we want this one to focus on alchemy we must get her Legos and Kinex and erector.
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>>24138908
Yes.

Samefag harder, nobros
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>>24138908
sure, why not
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>>24138908
No.
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>>24138908
Already voted, just wanted to say thank you for running today Fem. Good night all.
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>>24138908
no.
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>>24139002
I want it purely for the symbolism that was known and ok by me.
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>>24139061
Right back at you, yesfag.
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>>24139050
Those first ones all popping up within 10 seconds of eachother.
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>>24138908
Nope.
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>>24139093
Same with the nos.
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You decide that you want all of your daughters, if possible, to have some of your essence imprinted on them. It would include them in the same spiritual family along with you and your father, and will probably keep them from feeling left out. You'll just have to make sure that they don't get distracted from what they're actually good at with their minor Enchantment talent.

First, though, you need to talk to your dad. You head on down to him again. "Hey, dad?" you ask him.

"Yes, Max?" he asks.

"I've been thinking," you say.

"About?"

"My daughters. Sam corrected a misconception of mine over the weekend and, well... I still think that family being there for you is what makes them family. But if I can include them, and keep them from feeling left out..." you say.

"What?" he asks, confused.

"I think I'm going to fertilize my second daughter with myself," you say. "I don't want her to feel left out if she can't speak the Word, or... Or whatever. If doesn't change how I would feel about her, but it might change how she feels."

"Okay," he says. "Was there anything else?"

"Uh. No," you say.

"Okay. I'm glad you're doing it for her, and not for yourself. I know your feelings for them wouldn't change either way," he tells you.

You climb back up the ladder after that and, a few minutes of swift jerking later, your semen is sinking into the soil.

You think you made the right choice. You hope you did. You check the pH to make sure it's fine.

What do you do now?
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>>24139050
The last one is mine and isn't linked to fem it is part of a separate discussion. and is not part of this.
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>>24139119
Make at least 1 Strain Foci for our Emotion Field Spell.

We'll check on the pets after that.
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>>24139119
More foci.

4d100
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>>24139107
Actually, almost all of the no's appeared with at least 30 seconds of gap between each. I'm not assuming any posts are samefagging, I just don't want inaccurate information being presented. The yes votes that appeared in the same interval were largely clustered closely enough together that samefagging was impossible.

Both were counted.
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>>24139119
Drain focus for our class project then check back on Liz's project. Keep an eye on that wax tonight.
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>>24139119
>>24139138

yep
ideally like this>>24139145
or at least 2
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>>24139119
God fucking dammit. Because what this quest really needed was more dicks on everything.
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>>24139119
more foci
if we batch lode i say in order
2 drain for the project
1 communal foci crafting drain
1 communal basic transmutation drain
then check the forge again
then as many project boost as we can get.
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>>24139193
Dicks, dicks every wear as far as the eye can see.

Its more about being close to our family.
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>>24139190
I still dislike the idea of rolling for multiple actions at once because it's just begging for Fem to through interruptions at up or force us to miss important developments (like an exploding spirit jar) while we're locked away crafting.
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>>24139193
You can't stop the futatrain.
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You decide to start making emotional field strain-mitigation foci - or at least one to start with. You gather up more temporary foci, more permanent crafting foci, a crafting strain mitigation focus, and sit down in the sitting room to get to work.

Roll Alchemy to create the permanent emotional field strain mitigation focus. You get a +2 from temporary foci and a +2 from permanent foci. I'll consider the first seven linked 1d100 rolls.
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>>24139248
We should make sure to keep checking that thing frequently.
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>>24139244
Not really, I voted for someone running around with a horse sized cock.
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Rolled 20

>>24139278
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>>24139248
so we say we check on things between each session we are much more aware then when we meditate for hours on end dead to the world.
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Rolled 69

>>24139278
Diced
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Rolled 77

>>24139278
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Rolled 55

>>24139278
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Rolled 100

>>24139278
Time for failure
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Rolled 77

>>24139278
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Rolled 34

>>24139278


>>24139282
O god I forgot she will be huge!
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Rolled 68

>>24139278
rolling
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>>24139306
Holy shit all these 100s today.
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Rolled 26

>>24139316
Yep, that dick is gonna scale with her size. I'm calling eleven inches minimum.
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>>24139278
second we should check it after every crafting we should actually be crafting where we can keep an eye on it. >>24139280
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>>24139325
And her Sisters are going to have to learn to deepthroat every last inch, Liz can teach them.
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>>24139346
Liz still needs some training, herself. She gags a bit still. That's no good.
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>>24139316
Yep, I'm sure we'll find a way to fit it though. Specialized augmentation or something. Might have to make sure she doesn't do any damage to Liz though.
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>>24139306
>>24139303
>>24139315
4/7
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>>24139346
What if they don't want to? We should let them have choices in life.
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>>24139372
Well then they won't deepthroat them. We will. While she's tied up, been sexually frustrated for an hour or so, and screaming for release.
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>>24139325
I hope she doesnt even have one.
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>>24139325
The chick is going to be around 10-12 feet tall I think. I'm guessing more than a mere 11". Oh, we should probably make sure Liz doesn't take it or she'll never even notice our cock again. Or we could start working on hentai sizing ourself, what could go wrong there.
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>>24139372
There's having choices in life and not sucking your sister's cock, two very different things. If they didn't they wouldn't be very good sisters, now would they? We won't force them, but we will encourage it quite strongly.
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>>24139393
Let's not go full Austrian Child Abuse here please.
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>>24139346
>>24139393
>>24139419
>>24139438
Please stop this. Because you know that we will instead DAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW the fuck out.
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>>24139303
>>24139306
>>24139315
Your spell succeeds, and you're graced with a focus on your back that will allow you to cast your emotional field family of spells without accruing the normal point of strain.

It's going on 23:00 now.

What do you do?
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>>24139456
Son, if you think some orgasm denial is abuse, we set that ship to sail a long, long time ago.
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>>24139477
Go check on Liz's thing again.
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>>24139477
Another foci.
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>>24139477
check the forge then a basic transmutation strain focus.
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>>24139477
Check the spirit forge then make another focus
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>>24139477
>>24139495 then >>24139499
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>>24139479
Orgasm denial with a consenting adult, not a child that we have too too much power over.

>>24139448
Let the kids decide for themselves without brainwashing them please.
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>>24139472
Not really. I kinda dont care about her at all anymore.
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>>24139477
check on liz's project then go over ours a bit more see if we can do any last minute tweaks, gather 2 sets of temp foci for it for focus field, that way who ever is too week at enchantment to stop it has the focus to get good enough to break it.
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>>24139531
>Orgasm denial with a consenting adult, not a child that we have too too much power over.
Who in the actual fuck thought we were going to be doing this to her in her child form? This is for when she's sexually mature, man.
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>>24139531
my thoughts exactly
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>>24139477
Check Liz's project, then see if we can work out a custom camouflage spell to avoid the very basic dextra detection method. Eventually we need something like a camouflage aura augment, not augmenting our would directly, but projecting a benign aura over our true semi-demonic one.
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>>24139545
Boy, you're a picky fucker aren't you?
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>>24139545
I am so fucking sick of all this shit about kids.

If I had known that this what we would have to deal with, I would have advocated mulching the fucking things in our protein shake.
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>>24139578
I think we ruined his fetish...if so sorry vanilla macrophilia anon, we didn't know.
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>>24139578
Sort of, I guess. More of what >>24139599 said where all this shit has made me start agreeing with Dextra. We should just burn Selene and her two sisters and be done with it.
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>>24139562
Well than that's ok by me but better save than sorry.
not so sure about him >>24139531
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>>24139599
>>24139632
You fucking monsters.
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>>24139599
I especially love that Fem went all "Oh. Yeah. Dad's suddenly having trouble with the third ingredient set" to prolong the suffering.
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>>24139578
Yeah, playing the adventures of hover mom micromanaging her kids for some payoff far in the distant grimdarkness of the future is REAL fun.
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>>24139632
No. I get your frustration, but Selene adds a bit of light to an otherwise fairly serious and dark quest. I personally need the contrast to stay engaged.
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>>24139670
If you're not having fun, then why are you still here?
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Wow, this playerbase really does burst into flames over the smallest shit, don't they?
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>>24139477
Check on the Pets, make sure they're sleeping well in their new bed.

Then check on Liz's project again.
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>>24139477

More foci to cast the spell. The last thing we want is to be unable to cast it tomorrow when we are being graded. We should also start collecting temp foci to use as well
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>>24139706
The light of a consistent pain in the ass nagging at us for attention all the time.
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>>24139710
Thats what Im beginning to wonder.
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>>24139710
I'm still here for all the shit that isn't Selene. Or Liz being a needy neurotic.
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>>24139738
Vs. doing what? With what little sleep we get we have plenty of time
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>>24139758
So... what, dozens of rolls on trivial makework and occasional Snapple contributions?
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>>24139758
well i like both those things.
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>>24139785
Anything else? I don't know with what it could be filled, but basically whenever I see the name Selene in a femcock post, I skip the section. Liz, if she wasn't so central, would be getting the same treatment with how it's been lately with the constant angsting.
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>>24139758
those are two of my favorite parts.
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>>24139785
>>24139840
Gotta love how the magical murder school means jack shit these days. I really hope you guys do go through with mindraping Pierre and that gets the Dextra to find out about us and purge our dryad garden and crucify Selene, because you know thats how its gonna go down. Or maybe you honestly wont see that coming.
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>>24139840
Maybe we could be out hanging with the Lotus Society? Meeting new and more interesting people to fuck? Running drugs for the Bulgarians? Trying to become the first futa president of the United States? I don't know.

Anything other than "Oh man Selene is totally being adorablez."
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>>24139758
I on the other hand, would be pretty bored with out those two. Without them, I'd probably just be advocating staking and taking out fellow students until it got us killed, which would turn this into a pretty generic and boring quest.
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>>24139856
did you like Paris or are you only hear for the porn?
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>>24139477
I think we've hit the "stupid arguments that contribute nothing" point, and might be best if it just ends for the night.
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>>24139738
We've gotten to the point where we currently don't have the information or resources to do much of anything else. We can sit around rolling to craft foci literally all day, if you'd rather, because if we aren't loaded for annihilation, we're risking getting offed by exploring Scholomance.

We really need a huge timeskip after this project presentation, in my opinion. We haven't progressed in the overall timeline much at all in the last couple dozen threads. By all means, I expected us to be on that winter vacation by now, and into the second semester. It's getting really grueling, and I'm worried that if we spend too much time in the first year, we'll end up breaking the system by being so jacked up with enchantments that we scare fifth years as a moderately above-average second year.

As a side note, I love Selene and find the occasional Liz bit like today to be entertaining. I just wish we had more options for stuff to do that wasn't screaming at us that we'll probably die before it pays off, like exploring the wilds of Scholomance, digging in society secrets, or anything like that. I'm really craving a more meta plot hook right now after what Carl implied about why the school exists. The problem is that people are understandably frightened of tip-toeing outside the safe white lines until we've quite literally already won.
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>>24139927
>>24139979
That's the thing, it's just annoying to sit around all day in the tower being all "OMGDRYADBABEEZ" and "OMGMUHFEELINGZ". Remember when we got Lunch? Risky, yes, but also something INTERESTING.
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You head off to check on Liz's project once more, digging it out of the boxes where you re-stashed it. It's even warmer now than it was before. The wax hasn't melted yet, but it's starting to get a little bit softer than it was before. The designs haven't lit up with glowing heat yet. The body of the thing is completely intact. You're not sure whether you should alert Liz to the fact that it's growing hotter, or whether you should let her rest until such a time that it shows a more concrete sign of something bad happening, if ever.

That's where I'm going to end it for tonight. I'm tired and want to be fresh for my lab tomorrow. I'll archive this thread.
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>>24139979
I like your plan but i would hate a huge time skip because of the stupid only 3 things rule

Now a series of week long skips back to back would rock. and make things easier on fem while letting us branch out. We are more willing to do semi risky things in a time skip because that is less likely to get us gibed as opposed to set up a challenge later.
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>>24139905
President of US? Boring ceremonial powerless position. We could hang out with Carl more. I mean, we were planning to get strength+2 after the project and start super martial arts as well as continuing our lessons with Dane, but we could always spend more time with lotus. Meeting more interesting people to fuck? Yah, but if we aren't training them it's going to get old fast. Sure there are a thousand other things we could do that are interesting, but most of them are also going to get boring over time. At least we get to watch Selene and Liz grow and change as a result of our interactions.

If you want to run a combat heavy game here, try to remember that well planned ambushes are king.
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>>24140077
night This was one of the best days IMO
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>>24140077
an early warning is safer, we don't want to oh it was probably nothing, and then have it meltdown
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>>24140107
Really? I found the much-longer-than-intended dinner break on my part disappointing.
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>>24140102
Things get boring, sure, but the answer to 'things get boring' isn't 'keep doing boring things' it's to do interesting things until they get boring.
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>>24140054
I think the Lunch episode scared quite a few people for a while, so we've gotten into a more passive routine. The fact that dad is teleporting us everywhere means that literally the only venue for us to get put in danger is now a non-factor. We really need some non-violent intrigue. Dane comes to us with something dangerous that might shake the foundations of the school. Carl pulls us to the side and starts giving us strange tasks and is oddly stubborn about giving us details until a particularly dangerous mission goes awry and almost kills us.
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>>24139979
According to FemCOCK, we will only ever get 3 actions over a time skip. The length of the skip doesn't matter, you get 3 actions.
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>>24140077
Can we please move beyond the fucking after school special shit?
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>I missed the punishment
Damn.
>It ended up being "rant at her without letting her talk"
What the FUCK?
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>>24140158
Aside from that, I enjoyed today quite a bit.
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>>24140158
that sucked but I LOVED the scene with Liz.
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>>24140190
Thats not a surprise at all, you prick.
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>>24140173
I'm glad that Dad is just willing to sit around and be our teleport bitch, but maybe we could try exploring or something.
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>>24140177
Correct. The length of the skip affects the progress made. The limitation is entirely arbitrary and purely for my convenience.
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>>24140188
OMG SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOODDDDDD
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance

This thread is now archived.
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>>24139979
Part of the problem is that in this environment, failure at anything risky means death and worse than death, and no one is particularly interested in orphaning our kids or not-technically-widowing our waifu.

The other part is that this quest is really slow. We get a couple of paragraphs a day, broken up by totally unnecessary rolling, consisting mostly of micro-micro-micro-management. I mean, literally every last thing we do involves at least five posts asking for rolls and WAT DO for every fifteen minutes of game time.

Do people do this in tabletop RPGs? Do other GMs not ever assume that minor tasks of prep get done offscreen? Do other GMs make players roll for individual acts of gear maintenance?
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>>24140078
I can totally see Fem ending a time skip early with a do or die situation. Or kill Max of outright. Or make it a much longer times kip than anticipated and have us wake up as a Nemesis student spirit binds us.
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>>24140223
So if we got a really long skip and picked "Augment strength" could we get it up to 4 or so from our current 1 with that one action?
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>>24140221
>Dad is just willing to sit around and be our teleport bitch
Strictly speaking, he has no choice in the matter, aside from if/when you give him one. He's quite extensively bound by Max using ancient, primordial blood bonds.
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>>24140223
over long breaks can we have several short back to back skips with no on camera just montage

that rule sucks horribly.
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>>24140243
If you're really not enjoying it enough to want to play, but still sit around and butch just fucking read the archives and skip through to Fem's posts.
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>>24140246
Fem wouldn't be a bitch, if something was coming up she wouldn't reasonably say "And you die."

And speaking honestly, if it's a choice between that and domestodrama...Bring on the do or die. Or the Nemesis binding. That's my fetish.
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>>24140260
It depends on how long the time skip in question actually is, but plausibly, yes. You have, in the past, had more progress with augmentation when chosen on longer skips. Also, they aren't the only things you do, they're just the primary focus of your time during the skip.
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>>24139902
Shouldn't you be pushing for us to mess with Pierre then? Personally I wouldn't mind that kind of a conflict
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>>24140269

He had mentioned wanted free time, have we given him any so far? We really should
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>>24140233
Pardon? I didn't read whatevver arguing may have preceded that choice, besides the previous night, so if you're referrencing that you'll have to elaborate.
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>>24140243
Seriously. I get that there's sex here, and it appeals to your BDSM fetish, but c'mon people, let's pick up the pace a bit.
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Dextra need to attack just to break up the tedium.
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>>24140246
I can see her breaking out of a skip unexpectedly but not killing us flat out we would at least get a saving throw.
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>>24140381
If they attack then the second it's over everyone will go superhardcore extraparanoid and do nothing but jam wards up our tower's metaphorical ass all day.
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>>24140326
We plan to give him next weekend off.
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>>24140413
God, you make a good point.

This is why freeform magic is a titanic pain in the ass.
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>>24140307
You don't think that coming back from a skip as Liz trying to find what happened to her mistress is out of the realm of possibility? I'm not trying to say Fem is a bitch, she's been pretty reasonable (auto-returning library books for example) and runs an excellent game. But at the end of the day this is her quest and will be run for her amusement. If she wants to see her players squirm she will make them squirm. If she gets bored of writing for Max, well there are permanent and less permanent ways for her to take a break.
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>>24140188
Real punishment isn't sexy or fun. It's humiliating and painful for the recipient, and a chore for the administering party. Sorry that not everything involving Liz is sexy kinky bondage fucking.

>>24140246
That would be fucking awful and I really don't think FemCOCK would seriously just off a character without warning in that manner, especially our current PC. At the least, we'd play out the scene in full and have at least a few chances to save ourselves.
Fem, I know you've gotten a ruleset of some sort established for this quest, but consider what that other anon said and maybe start letting tedious things like making foci go a little more often. It's getting boring having to slowly grind through so many rolls like this. I'm finding it strange that some really basic things aren't simply auto-successes in passive time, like making foci (time permitting) and studying. I'd be fine with a static (or even completely arbitrary) amount of auto-progress for saying "Study the last three hours of the night and go to bed".
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Long time reader, first time commenter. I just wanted to say I would like it if time moved a bit faster.

Otherwise I enjoy this quest a lot.
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>>24140478
To elaborate I mean time chunks of multiple days or even a week. I just worry that familial interactions will get repetitive.
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At a certain point, everything erotic is ground out with all the domestic shit. We're not a dickgirl musclemage, we're a teenmom stuck living with her dad micromanaging our kids and trying to keep our relationship together through a shitty vacation.
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>>24140541
So your complaint is that you find the title misleading?
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>>24140324
Im just saying that people have gotten retarded lately. Its kind of ironic that we just bitched out Liz for unnecessary risks when we are trying our damnedest to get Selene killed.
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>>24140541
So, your saying we're a reenage muscle Milford with a dick that lives with a sex demon, a sub and a nymphomaniac? Just checking.
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>>24140586
That's an incredible simplification and exaggeration of his point. We've done literally nothing but partied, parented, and dealt with Liz for the last ten or so threads.

>>24140609
You're taking a possible risk that we've been taking every precaution to avoid and claiming it as our primary goal. That's a great amount of words you're putting in everyone's mouth.
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>>24140609
Good, I want the little bitch dead. I wish we had an abortion.
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>>24140609
I'm not sure you've got that right, we are risking orphaning Selene, they'd have to find the tower before they could take out our daughter.
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>>24140666
You seem very angry. You should stop following this quest if it makes you as angry as you seem. This is, of course, assuming you're not a troll. I'm pretty sure you're either a troll or an angry drunk.
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>>24140478
>>24140476
Time scale is my big complaint. Slow time is a grueling crawl with all actions using the combat resolution and no smoothing over so it gets boring fast.
Time skips are a useless blur because we cant balance our resources its all or nothing on 3 things and no finesse at all. Plus we have no idea what if any "minor things" we did on the time skip. For example those scarves we made off screen came out of nowhere and had no lead in from you or us.

I want to be able to have a middle pace between constant combat time and hectic jump ahead.
Ideally we would have 4 speeds
combat(we use this now for everything),
normal(we give an idea of what we do and you our plan and you tell us when something unexpected happens),
fast(we are siting at home all night studying, crafting and fucking) and
time skip(we use this now)
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>>24140712
I was making a joke, chill out.
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>>24140476
It's not supposed to be sexy or fun, it's supposed to be effective behavior modification. An entirely one-sided lecture isn't going to do that. In fact, we already know it didn't since for all the successes we rolled, she didn't do anything but keep saying how sorry she is, meaning that all we effectively conveyed is that we're mad at her.
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>>24140660
>we've don't literally...for the last ten threads or so.
So many crafting rolls. So many research rolls. I'm not complaining, but you realize that most of our time (not necessarily content, but in game time) is going to end up going to schoolwork, meditation and foci crafting?
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>>24140744
It didn't carry through as a joke. You seemed to be one of those people who seriously wants Selene and the other dryads now removed from the quest, retroactively if at all possible.
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>>24140744
Oh good. I was also a little worried about you're health. Gotta keep you're blood pressure under control, right anon?
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>>24140752
Thus, we need to just get in their and alter her brainmeat.

If she does it again, that's what I'm advocating we're doing. Enough angst, just edit her to our liking.
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>>24140771
That's who I was parodying, if you didn't get that.

>>24140801
It's all just cardio mate.
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>>24140805
That's among the most evil things that anyone has ever advocated seriously in this quest - violating the mind of someone who loves and trusts us because we find their behaviour somewhat inconvenient and occasionally annoying.
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>>24140842
Wow, you're overdramatic. It's not like we're killing her or anything, all we're doing is making a change which she'll thank us for later.
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>>24140752
What?
She sincerely wants to change her bad behavior. She cried and said she got it and wanted to change. After fucking us she went right to sleep.
What evidence do you have that she doesn't want to change? What could she have done to convince you.
Now you might propose a punishment that you think would have given clear feedback by now, but that is no reason to say we failed when she has had no chances to clearly show success OR failure.
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>>24140842
For all we know she may become better for it. Its no different from us ballbusting Pierre to somehow make him more compassionate. Both are just manipulating someone who utterly trusts us to keep ourselves safer while doing our best to mitigate the damage to them.
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>>24140863
No, really, that's just too evil for me. I knew this quest attracted sociopaths, but wow.
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>>24140887
The only reason Pierre hasn't tried to kill us is because he's too incompetent to realize we're a demon.
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>>24140887
It's entirely different. We actually care about Liz. We detest Pierre. Seeing rewriting the minds of the people you care about as okay is profoundly evil. Doing it to enemies, even with trickery, is a comparative moral gray area.
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>>24140752
Did you not see her specifically say everything she wasn't going to do any more, or did you just skim over the thread? She's been unbelievably obstinate for the last twenty threads, and refused to listen to reason in a two-sided argument. I would have actually preferred we had taken the method of hard spanking/paddling and extreme discomfort with self-degrading rote of some sort, but we were taking consideration to her abuse issues, which may end up culminating in her fucking snapping and hurting us or someone else, or worse if we start physically injuring her as part of legitimate punishment. I'm not saying we can't backhand her or something when we've had enough of her shit, but it's become an annoyingly problematic factor that she might have some kind of trauma from her parents.

>>24140805
Yes, and what happens when we fail? At best, she storms out furious at us, the archmage society keeps us under their sights at all times because we attacked their newest initiate, and we'll probably end up having to deal with the top-ranked student in our class retaliating against us at some point for whatever reason. At worst, it backfires, leaves us dazed, and in a fit of rage and broken-hearted betrayal, kills us on the spot.

I'm all for these kind of dangerous quests, but it's gotten to the point where I'm honestly convinced that failing a single roll at any time is going to get us killed. More than once, Fem has come out after the fact and laid out the multitudinous ways in which we could have gotten ourselves killed over things that, in my opinion, did not justify getting us killed.
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>>24140921
The only reason Liz loves us is because of our magical girlcock.
>>24140922
>We actually care about Liz.
You do, maybe.
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>>24140943
>You do, maybe.
Our character does.
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>>24140956
So long as she remains not a nuisance.
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>>24140805
I think that if she dose it again we tell ask her if she really wants to change and be better. If she says yes (and she will) we tell her that we think she need help. Then we sit down with her and systematically plan he mind edit, or any reasonable alternative she offers, Then carry out that plan to the letter and spirit.

Consensual MC is best MC
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>>24140819
sarcasm + internet = lost
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>>24140943
Oh, good, so you're participating while being uninterested in the characters, and just want to kill shit. Good, glad to see you want to make an egregious break of character just because things got a bit too boring for you. You're That Guy.

I don't particularly like Liz, and think she's actually probably the most boring, safest choice for a main girl we could have chosen, compared to Lin, one of the twins at the Lotus, Kaoru, the dryad girl from the dorms, Sam, Hera, and everyone else, but I'm not going to suddenly turn Max into a psychotic sociopath because I think it might be amusing.
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>>24140922
That's probably one of the shittier justifications I've ever heard. How is it so morally good to ruin the lives of people you don't know?

You have two choices of who to kill, either your friend who has just murdered someone, or a little old lady. Or better yet, which would you have effected with a magic mind ray to make them in to a better person?
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>>24140899
how about >>24140970
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>>24140988
We are Max, and if you can't think of a singular justification as to why Max might do this, you're an uncreative lump.
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>>24140805
Right, that's not going to happen. We're not going to mindfuck our lady love because you're whinging about this. It's impolite and a complete breach of mutual trust.

>>24140887
Liz is the girl we love, Pierre is some guy who is attached to us and who we're manipulating and using.

I see it as us having five general groupings of people. Family, like Liz, Dad, Selene, and Lin, people we actually like a lot. Friends, Sam, Hera, and most of Lotus. Apathetic, people we don't give a fuck about one way or another. People who are involved in our life in one way or another who are too strong to fuck with, Petrov and the Librarian, we don't trust them or like them, but we work around them or with them because we can't work against them. And people involved in our life who we can fuck with and may need to remove, this would be Pierre and the rest of the students in our class. We don't hurt or fuck with Family, we try to avoid hurting or fucking with Friends, Apathetic we leave alone and it leaves us alone unless we have something to benefit from messing with it and minimal consequences, we try to avoid getting fucked by the strong, and if need be we remove the ones we can fuck with and don't care about them much.

>>24140970
I'd be okay with this, but let's see how this little chat with her works out before we start throwing MC around.
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>>24140988
>so you're participating while being uninterested in the characters
Oh good, so you put words into my mouth and argue against a strawman.

I find Lin, Sam, Hera, our dad, the twins, Dane, Selene, and hell, even Lunch and Breakfast more interesting than Liz. And they all have better personalities to boot. Liz is kind of a cunt.
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>>24140927
I agree with almost everything in this post.

Slight modifications, Fem said from the get go that this was murder hogwarts, anything can be an excuse for us getting murdered, captured, maimed or subverted. Second, why would SoA send Liz against us instead of an older member?
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>>24141042
Seriously, Liz's defining trait is being stupid and whiny and needy and constantly needing to be told what to fucking do.

The "LIZ 4EVA" contingent is seriously hampering this game. Especially since it was the first girl we met come fucking on.
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>>24140805
If we had gone wiith the paper idea, we wouldn't have this issue. We would be able to assess her understanding, and we would be encouraging her to come to an accurate understanding of acceptable risk/reward.

>>24140842
Not even close. First of all, the fact that we know her better doesn't make altering her more evil, just as it doesn't make her more of a person (except in the meta sense). Furthermore this would be a very minor modification - possibly less than what we did to Pierre without even thinking about it. And finally, we'd be doing it to ensure the safety of everyone in the tower, rather than for stupid and selfish reasons as with Lunch's personality and Pierre's balls. I hope she can change herself without us needing to use magic, but if it turns out that this is impossible, mental alterration will be both mandatory, and one of the less evil things we've done.
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>>24140970
You really want us to roll soul against her common sense (mind) to convince her to let us fiddle with her head?
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>>24141114
>implying common sense is intelligence
Liz is smart as fuck, but this whole episode with her needing to be punished proved she has zero common sense.
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>>24140943
Max is, in fact, in love with Elizabeth, barring a sudden shift in consensus. If you have a problem with that, feel free to try to steer the consensus elsewhere, downvote the archives, samefag tremendously, or whine about it. If the sway of consensus becomes frustrating enough to you, you could also post troll comments, complain about this quest's player base in meta threads, or criticize me as a person, as these are all valid methods of self-expression.

As it stands, though, your opinion is wholly contrary to the protagonist's. Max is in love with Elizabeth.
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>>24140927
We tell her it's time for some fun bondage, get her good and strapped down, immobilized, gagged, whatever, and then we get to work. She can't do anything, and we can make certain she's properly aligned.
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>>24141138
Please don't be so upset at us discussing the game. I thought you were going to bed?
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>>24141023
spot on with the 5 categories

the MC plan is my advised next line of punishment on that the ball is in her court for punishment or fun.
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>>24141138
>feel free to try to steer the consensus elsewhere, downvote the archives, samefag tremendously, or whine about it. If the sway of consensus becomes frustrating enough to you, you could also post troll comments, complain about this quest's player base in meta threads, or criticize me as a person, as these are all valid methods of self-expression.
Now, now, no need to get all passive-aggressive and snide. I never said my opinion was representative of everyone's or even of Max's, I was just objecting to someone else doing the same. No need to be such a cunt about people discussing things, or would you rather these arguments crop up while you are trying to run the quest?
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>>24141138
Why does love prevent us fixing her? Liz isn't right in the head, and it's starting to get clear now. We love her, so why can't we make her better?
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>>24141168
I'm not upset. Merely correcting. That Anonymous implied that the other Anonymous was acting on opinionated conjecture. That was incorrect.

>>24141197
That Anonymous was stating, accurately, that Max cares about Elizabeth. You were implying, incorrectly, that it was merely that Anonymous's opinion. You have now been corrected.
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>>24140880
It's like you've literally never raised a teenager before. The fact that she's telling us what she thinks weto want to hear now has no bearing on whether she'll actually change her behavior. The fact that she's sorry and wants to change will have rapidly decreasing relevence to her decision making and in a week nothing will have changed. She needs to understand what the problem is, and why it's a problem, and the only problem she's demonstrated an awareness of is us being mad at her.
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>>24141138
hey fem I think I know one of the other quests you ran. I wont guess out loud without your approval because you said you didn't want to say them so your work could all stand alone. what do you say should I spill it or mum?
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>>24141224
He said WE care about Elizabeth, not MAX cares. I now know what he meant, but that's not what I was objecting to at the time.
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>>241410899
Settong someone on a less self destructive path is somehow more evil than total destruction of a mind or forced feminization?
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>>24140994
>morally good
He didn't say it was good or justified, he said it was a grey area. We're doing something terrible and extremely unfair to the victim, yes, but Max has reason to hate that character, while Max has reason to not want to fuck around with Liz's head. I personally wouldn't have ever even made a romantic commitment to Liz this early in the first place, and kept a fun harem going of the girls.

>>24141042
>putting words in your mouth
You literally just fucking said you didn't care about Liz. Twice.

Aside from that, I agreed with you after that part in that Liz is the most troublesome, irritating character in the quest. I was willing to go with her becoming our main girl for a while, but she really has gotten to be more trouble than she's worth. She doesn't really bring anything to the table for the story or for our personal benefit as Max. She's quite literally just a submissive hole that likes us and is also very good at magic that we have no talent for. Really, unless something crazy happens to us and gives us an incredible aptitude for the other schools, the two of us are going to go down separate metaphorical roads in the world of magic.

>>24141153
I'm going to go ahead and be blunt about this, although I doubt you care; Not only is this completely breaking Max's character, but it's totally psychotic and even as a major sadist who reads mindbreak on a daily basis, I felt physically and mentally threatened by what you just said.

>>24141228
So what you're saying is that she's not going to listen unless we do something extreme to make our point? I'm legitimately curious as to what you would have done.
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>>24141294
Ooh, ooh, what'd he say?
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>>24141314
>You literally just fucking said you didn't care about Liz. Twice.
You just implied Liz is literally every character in the quest. Twice.
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>>24141314
>I felt physically and mentally threatened by what you just said.

Sorry I forgot to put up a trigger warning, Anita.
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I think the simple issue with the whole too much focus on Selene thing is easily remedied: yes she matures quickly so we need to spend as much time teaching her as possible so she doesn't start school with low stats, but we aren't the only ones capable of teaching her. Hell even breakfast could teach her basic math and whatnot. Have other people pitch in spending time with her and we can focus more on other endeavors. Not advocating neglect just that she will grow to quickly for us to teach her everything she needs and everyone except lunch would ne happy to help. We could Eben incorporate asking them to help into time skips if fem wouldn't count asking others to do something as one of our 3 actions.
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>>24140927
What do you mean, if we fail? We're not mindraping her here. She'd know ahead of time and if the dice fell wrong she would help gather more foci.
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>>24141224
>If you have a problem with that, feel free to try to steer the consensus elsewhere, downvote the archives, samefag tremendously, or whine about it. If the sway of consensus becomes frustrating enough to you, you could also post troll comments, complain about this quest's player base in meta threads, or criticize me as a person, as these are all valid methods of self-expression.

You're certainly taking on an unmistakably hostile tone there in those words.
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>>24141214
we care about her opinion and value her willing participation even in our bondage games >>24140970 is fixing her and respecting her agency in the relationship.

>>24141314
>So what you're saying is that she's not going to listen unless we do something extreme to make our point? I'm legitimately curious as to what you would have done.
dito

>>24141341
you and him are talking about Liz in particular you twit

>>24141390
he assumed as did I you didn't mean consensual MC
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>>24141426
I said I didnt care for Liz, to which he claimed that meant I hate all the characters and am only here to kill things. I was correcting him on this.
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>>24141396
>You're certainly taking on an unmistakably hostile tone there in those words.

I think milady has had a bit to drink! wouldn't be the first.

Also, while a bit edgy, have you SEEN the whining on the 4chandiscussion boards about this quest? Hooolllly shiiiiit
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>>24141396
>tone
>internet
I read it as a calm and rational explanation of the options you have, including having rational discussions and trying to sway the consensus. Perhaps it wasn't as unmistakable as you thought. Perhaps you're just defensive or projecting.
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>>24141485
No, it was pretty fucking snide how she implied that the only way you can disagree with anything she writes is by making an ass of yourself.
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>>24141504
>feel free to try to steer the consensus elsewhere
Okay. I think you're making a bit of an ass of yourself right now.
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>>24141485
Fem implied that disagreement with a part of the quest is tantamount to being a trolling asshole out only to destroy the quest.
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>>24141390
I guess I should have specified failing to convince her to cooperate or submit to the procedure. Your original post on the issue implied you just wanted to do it to her without her consent, much like forcing a child to get a shot at the doctor. If we fail the obvious soul roll that would be involved in that, it would almost definitely welcome nothing but violent, bitter trouble. The kind of trouble that's going to put a damper on everything else we want to eventually do with this quest. It's going to mean that instead of Liz being needy and whiny under our thumb, she's going to be angry and angsty while holding a very well-justified and bitter grudge against us that will almost invariably result in something tragic for at least one party at some point. My point is that while we have to deal with her more often, at least she won't be actively trying to cause us legitimately life-threatening trouble.

>>24141478
I admit that you're right about that. I kind of lashed out at first because of this whole debacle that started over something as stupid as a dryad seedling getting jizzed on. Looking back on it, this entire shitstorm is really quite silly, and I'm feel incredibly dumb for getting wrapped up in, and contributing to it. I got emotional and argumentative. If you're willing to let that be settled, I'd like to agree that Liz is currently losing points with me as a personal participant in this quest. Then again, I've been consistently, but silently agitated that we haven't spent much time with any o the other girls, especially Lin. Lin seems like an entire oasis of fun and exciting sub-plot, but the consensus hasn't given her much love yet.
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>>24141314
What I would have done is the paper suggestion we'd agreed on last night. First, talk to her about it then have her write up a proper risk/reward analysis. Look over her first draft and don't let her call it done until it includes all the reasons her vindictive shit towards Pierre is utterly impractical. That way rather than think about just how in trouble she is, she's actually thinking about and gaining an understanding of the issue.
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>>24141571
>What I would have done is the paper suggestion we'd agreed on last night.
Last night, the agreement was the lecture. I hated both ideas, but it was the clear majority, and for good reason, the paper idea was the worse of the two.
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>>24141571
Tell you what, if she's still causing trouble after all of this, I'm totally willing to try this as an alternate method. Really, I'm fine with any method that doesn't involve physically injuring her. That's not because I'm squeamish about a hard paddling, but because I'm trying to minimize her overhead as a character. The sooner we can keep her quiet and get the other characters some metaphorical screentime, the better. Regardless of if you're right, hopefully the seven out of eight successes will overcome any conceptual shortcomings in our methods.
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>>24141620
We've given her way too many chances as is. We need to end the issue if she fucks up again.
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I find that the post-thread discussions tend to feature only a tiny segment of the actual player base of this quest, and most of them are either the crazy ones or the rabid defenders of the QM. As such, it's almost always a bad idea to participate in these, and an even worse idea to pretend plans made in this segment matter. I just wanted to inform you because this particular segment is pants-on-head retarded every which way, even compared to the normal ones, and that's saying a lot.
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>>24141593
Last night after you'd left, then. That plan received modifications and became athe consensus as the thread was winding down.
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>>24141695
This was by the end of the thread. The only time the paper became a 'consensus' was when there were only about two posters left. The actual consensus was the lecture then, and it was the lecture today too. Also, this guy has it right:
>>24141690
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>>24141690
I think some of the crazy ones are just trolling the rabid defenders, because its really fucking easy. Just insult Liz or Selene and you get 75 posts of butthurt.
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>>24141690
Unfortunately the posts that actually try to fix shit, such as >>24141384 go largely ignored. Such a waste.
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>>24141620
From how she was written, it doesn't sound like our successes achieved our actual goals. But, sounds good to me. I'd rather try the paper first rather than cut straight to enchantment.
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>>24141593
What was your plan. I assume it was not physical violent or sexually rewarding for her.

>>24141657
which is why my plan is >>24140970 then it is done
and if she doesn't consent to MC or have a good alternative. We tell her than we don't think she can be our sub or Girl Friend any more and the price of staying unDinnered is our collar and losing her memory of our tower, the meals, Dad, Selene, and our plans for Piare and anything else vital to our and Lin's safety. We will store them for her and if she earns our trust back she can have them back and she will remember that we dated and why we broke up and the the price was to lose her memory of the sanctum we gave her.
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>>24141695
As the guy who originally proposed it, you are right. I was hoping people would discuss the idea a bit more today, rather than just go "yep, that's fine". I even specifically said that I pulled it out of my ass while driving down the interstate. I guess this is all part of the risk of trying to contribute so heavily to our actions, but now I feel responsible for this entire shitstorm. Obviously, I am at least to some degree, so I guess that's why I'm getting so worked up about people happening to bring up quest-wide grievances near the same time this happened.

>>24141690
This all got set off by one particularly bitter and obviously exaggerated complaint about us giving our second dryad Incubus traits. The fact that this blew so far out of proportion over something so minuscule is sobering. Some people, myself included, are way, way too invested in this quest. I need to learn to just let shit slide and go to bed instead of staying up another two hours to bicker at people because they say something, after the fact, that differs from my opinions. All I've done is exacerbate this whole fucking argument. So, sorry for that.
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>>24141831
I'm going to completely avoid arguing over stuff that hasn't happened, and I'm just going to point out that it's going to be one hell of a fiasco trying to cut and paste her memories of our tower and et cetera into a storage device. I really doubt we have the talent or training to manage that right now.



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