>>23967691
Nap nap nap

>>23967691
take a nap so er are fresh for tonight

>>23967691
naptime

>>23967728
Actually a pretty good idea. Then we'll be alert all night.

>>23967691
Take a nap.

>>23967750
Why? Liz has going to have to go to sleep at some point while we're there

>>23967691
Given that we are going to head out when Liz gets back we should head to Paris now, set stuff up for the romantic/lewd collaring, have rose petals and all of that stuff ready and waiting for the hotel room, make sure things are prepped for that, and then we meet the others when they pop in.

Let Lin know about this and to tell Liz to get dressed up and that we're waiting for them in Paris.

>>23967691
I support light napping, set Lunch to wake us when Liz gets home.

>>23967792
Everyone just wants to fastforward until Liz gets home.

>>23967792
Because that way we can both be on guard duty and work on some projects while she's asleep.

>>23967813
Yeah, it's been almost 12 hours of real time for something like 4 hours in quest. 4 hours that weren't even important.

>>23967813
Because I expect her to be late or note come home, and I'd like to cut out the building tension and head straight to panic time if I'm right.

>>23967691
Wait until Liz gets back. No point in getting into anything now if she could be back any moment.

>>23967691
this>>23967804

>>23967804
Or we could usefully kill time by meditating until she gets home

I missed a lot, who is Liz again?

>>23968152
We're waiting any second now to two hours, can we do anything useful through meditator in that time?

>>23968195
How much have you missed? We met Liz in the first thread and she's been in every thread since.

>>23968195
Reread thread one.

>>23968195
Are you sure this is the quest you think it is? Because if you don't know Liz, you know all but nothing.

>>23968195
Hmm, your name sounds familiar. What was happening last time you were here?

>>23968284
this
>>23968195
Liz is the girl we are dating, nerdy, possessive, submissive, calls us Mistress Lin is the Chinese girl who reincarnates.

>>23968222
>>23968223
>>23968248
>>23968284
I missed like the last 20 or 30 threads, so it my be understandable that I didn't remember right off the back. Why are we collaring her?

>>23968352
she is submissive calls us Mistress and we are in a committed relationship we want to last.

>>23968352
Because we are committed to this relationship and want to give her a sign of that commitment.

>>23968352
It's the kinkier and sexier version of making a long-term commitment in a BDSM relationship, depending on the participants it can be equivalent to a engagement ring, a wedding ring, or something less important but still meaning that you want to be with them for a long time and that you love them.

You only missed thirty threads? Spoiler alert: no plot development.

>>23968446
Not true, Kero missed the introduction of the Pierre subplot.

>>23968195
We're you there for Lunch?

>>23968499
Right Pierre has a crush on us Liz wants to break him we are teaching him faulty mind shields, and are likely to make his testis make estrogen instead of testosterone. Though i am against it because that makes turning him willingly much more difficult.

>>23968552
I want to turn him willingly, THEN feminize him.

>>23968377
>>23968399
>>23968401
I need to do more fetish research.

>>23968577
that is my ideal plan as well
I am >>23968552

>>23968552
Would him suddenly being confused, scared and alienated from dextra as a result of his body developing like a demon-human hybrid make him more likely to trust us more, being non dextra and a member of a society that teaches living alchemy to upper level students? Honestly I think this is the push that might drive him to us.

>>23968577
I want to zap his nuts during one of the lessons and watch as the transition unfolds and he spirals into depression, eventually being driven towards Max. His last and only friend in a school full of people who hate him. Not even his fellow hands like him.

And then we pull out the reveal. "Oh, by the way. I'm a demon. Check yer privlij"

>>23968552
Turing willingly some one who gleefully talks about holy fire after we know that 3 students were beating then burned to death. I don't think so.

>>23968577
Doesn't really matter which happens first. Feminization will take a while to kick in anyway.

Yay for Fem's asstier internet.

>>23968529
I was.
>>23968577
I support this.

>>23968627
Unless we want him to die outright, the transition is going to take months. Remember this is essentially hormone replacement therapy.

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Would it be possible to convince Peirre to try the Pillars? He's only a probationary Dextra, would there be repercussions?

>>23968664
Hmm, he's going to figure out that we have demonic heritage very soon (this week). So realistically you have Sunday (and maybe very early Monday) to turn him. FYI, it's saturday afternoon and we're about to leave for an overnight trip to Paris.

>>23968715
He might be a full member. The whole first year = probationary thing is how the Lotus works, but the other societies are different.

I would like him to try to leave though.

>>23968720
Why would he figure it out?

>>23968616
>>23968627
the problem is he may at that point put 2 and 2 together and realize what we did.

>>23968647
he is an idiot we may be able to fix him if not we break him.

I just had a great idea what if we use enchantment to make his own detection spell give super week inconstant falls positives of his own aura being demonic. It may drive him to suicide but if not he is ours. We should ask him if he thinks half demons should commit suicide for being evil, or if the sin of suicide is still forbidden to them. Before we do this and accidentally have him kill himself.

>>23968715
I don't think Dextra would like him leaving. Not sure if they'd put him in a body bag, but it is a serious possibility. I was under the impression that Dextra didn't do the probationary period.

>>23968764
Because we've been helping him and he's making foci.

Figuring it out is also his project for class.

I think it's better to keep Pierre as a friend and a potential lover (but, don't give him too much) and use him as a mole, rather than to overtly turn him in the foreseeable future.

>>23968720
>he's going to figure out that we have demonic heritage very soon (this week).
Why?

>>23968764
this >>23968785
We could put up ant detection wards when around him though.

>>23968764
As bad as he is at enchantment, he has been working on aura sight and is going to get it eventually. He'll probably be willing to swallow his provide and ask Dextra for help since he's using it for his class project.

>>23968785
I figured Petrov would make us show off our projects in private.

Failing that, we just ask dad to help us set up a detection proof ward before monday.

You decide to go take a nap until Liz gets back. You change out of your nice clothes, lie down, and close your eyes. You're woken up some time later by Liz kissing you. You're not sure how long she was already doing it by the time you woke up, but you do have her tongue in your mouth. You give her a hard kiss back and then sit up.

You check your phone. It's about 5:15; that's 3:15 Paris time.

"Hey, Mistress," says Liz, giving you a smile. Her hair is messy, but she doesn't look too tired, nor does she look injured. "I need to take a shower, but we can head out now if I can shower in Paris. It's your choice."

What's your preference?

>>23968806
True, but an illusion army aura would be more useful since it wouldn't look like we were hiding something. We don't know any anti detection wards by the way.

>>23968828
Sexy shower in Paris sounds just delightful

>>23968828
she can shower now

>>23968828
>in Paris we can check into the hotel, then we can take a shower and ... then we can walk around a bit :)

>>23968828
"Why don't we have a nice shower in Paris?"

we can set up a romantic collaring moment while she heats up the water.

>>23968828
Paris we collar her when she is naked and gets finished.

>>23968828
If we don't have the hotel key we might want to shower first. What is the plan for porting to Paris, where are we landing?

>>23968828
"It's not like it'll make a difference time-wise, but if you take it now we can drop our bags off and head out right away."

>>23968883
>>23968886
I vote we do it after we've had our afternoon walkabout.

>>23968883
>>23968886
Yea I like this idea

>>23968886
Perfect.

>>23968912
Agreed. Collaring her off the bat seems a little rushed.

>>23968828
Kiss her a bit more, feel her up a bit.

"We'll take a shower before we go slut. I ought to make sure you're clean and dolled up first, make sure that you're properly presentable."

Undress her, clean her, dress her, dote a bit on her but be somewhat controlling about it.

>>23968886
>>23968883
I'd rather not do it first thing in Paris, you don't start off a dinner with a marriage proposal, you set the stage first.

>>23968955
If we do it right away it cant get stolen

>>23968990
i proposed >>23968886 and still like it but >>23968990 is the best option for do it later.

>>23968997
True, but it still seems rushed and less romantic as a result.

>>23968997
Who the fuck is going to steal a bondage collar?

Besides, if it gets stolen, we locate it and teleport it back to us, then teleport the thief into the depths of the Amazon jungle to think about what he did.

>>23969021
It has platinum on it.

And the last time we went to Paris our shit got jacked by gypsies.

>>23968997
We keep it hidden in the Hotel Room or just let our Dad know to teleport us a box with it in it when we text him, simple stuff people.

This is about romance and that is far too rushed.

>>23969050
That was actually when we left Paris and were in Romania.

>>23969021
The base form has a lot of platinum on it. So highly dipesirable for thieves. However it can shapeshifter when worn, so we shouldn't have to worry about anyone seeing the base form and trying to steal it from Liz.

So is the consensus now or later?

>>23969050
No, our wallet was pickpocketed. We chased the fucker down and got it back.

The gypsies stole our luggage when we arrived in Sibiu and decided to leave it outside the can while we had a quicky.

>>23969071
Do >>23968990

>>23969071
shower now, collar later.

>>23969071
Now.

>>23969050
We were in Romania when our luggage got jacked. When we left it unattended.

A bondage collar in our pocket is hardly as big a risk.

>>23969071
Now

>>23969071
For the collaring, I think it's to do it later.

For the Shower I'm not sure, but I don't really care either way.

>>23969071
Shower now, collar later.

>>23969069
there was a pickpocket on the subway to.

>>23969071
fuck latter we waited this long we can wait a bit longer.

>>23969071
>>23969081
ditto

>>23969071

We'll dine first, then head back to the room after hitting a little sex shop funtime on the way back. We'll see when the mood is right on the way back to the hotel.

>>23969071
Now, and we should definitely tell Liz about our plans for Pierre too.

>>23969147
sounds like a plan
combine with >>23968990 please

>>23969189
No we aren't committed to them and it would undermine our don't break everyone talk later.

>>23969189
Good point, we should tell her about our plans for pierre now, because we won't be able to talk about it when we're in Paris.

>>23969071
Tell her our plans over dinner, collar her after dinner and put her in the shower now.

>>23969229
Aren't we? Everyone seemed pretty committed to them in yesterday's thread.

>>23969229
Our talk isn't about breaking people, it's about her not doing it carelessly. Liz's problem is a lack of restraint.

>>23969243
It's just one or two people trying to go lawful stupid again.

>>23969243
I'm pretty sure we are committed to it, but Liz just got home from work so now really isn't the time to talk shop. It's time to Dom her in the shower.

>>23969229
We aren't breaking Pierre, we are instituting a champaign of psychological warfare through physical transformation. There is a huge difference.

>>23969229
furthermore when do we plan to have that talk? tomorrow before or after we meat Sam seems like a good idea. But she will be much more receptive right after we collar her.

>>23969243
there were at least 3 votes this thread alone to weight for him to turn first.
>>23968552 >>23968577 >>23968664

"Let's get you all clean and dressed up now, slut," you tell her, standing slowly out of bed. You kiss her neck and start slowly stripping her down, one piece of clothing at a time as you tease and kiss at her. You carry her to the shower and put her in, starting to rinse her down and soap her up. Every time she tries to lift a hand to do anything, you push it gently but firmly down. Every time she opens her mouth to say anything, you kiss her hard until she shuts up.

Once she's all clean, you lift her out and dry her off. By this point, she's blushing and whimpering with each action you take. You've been watching her closely enough that you're reasonably sure you know what outfit she planned on wearing around Paris, and dress her up in it piece by piece. You even do her hair and makeup for her, another thing that you've learned quite completely in your time together with her. Once she's all done up and ready to go, you step back to admire your work.

"Th... Thank you, Mistress," says Liz, her voice breathy and shaky. She's got a deep blush on her face and a goofy little smile.

What do you do now?

>>23969308
What talk are you talking about? We've already had the be smart, be discrete and be discriminate talk about breaking people with her. Twice. Both with regard to Pierre if I'm not mistaken.

>>23969314
"Now you get to dress me up."

Then walk into the room with our clothes and stand there. Lift up your arms and spread legs.

"Well? Chop chop."

>>23969314

You're welcome, Slut, now let's get going, we wouldn't want to be late, would we?

Or do we?

>>23969362
Seconded.

>>23969314

lets tell her to wait at the outbound portal while we get ready. then get back in our outfits and have dad port us out.

>>23969314
"still missing something " (rub our chin) "never mind I am sure It will come to me. "

>>23969362
this do this.

after she finishes
"Lets go, we gotta check into the hotel, and there are a few places I want to go around Paris, still."

>>23969314
I want to put her on her knees right now, but then we'd have to reapply her make up...

>>23969261
I want to do it in the end but i want to try to tern him willingly. if we ask about demon suicide like >>23968778
If he says they shouldn't kill themselves I am much less opposed. Until we know that lets not risk him killing himself. Plus operation estratesties kills the Dextra mole option ether they kill him or blame us.

>>23969314
Give her a kiss. "You look perfect slut, absolutely perfect."

Then direct her to undress us and put our outfit on, don't let her play with us too much, make her follow our orders.

Then gather up the stuff, secretly bring the collar with us hidden somewhere, and get a teleport for the three of us to Paris with our stuff.

>>23969381
Tempting, but given how smart she is I caution against giving hints.

>>23969362
seconded (thidthed?)

>>23969362
this

>>23969414
but thats half the fun teasing her.

>>23969291
Technically yes but it still weakens the message. We want Liz to grow emotionally and not become unstably possessive or dependent. We want our love to be psychologically healthy. Mixed messages undermine that.

>>23969314
this>>23969381

Wait a second, what actually are we unhappy with Liz a bit? Isn't it mostly just that she gets jealous?

>>23969475
Not really seeing your point here. I'm willing to listen, but admit I'm more pragmatic than moral when dealing with potential threats and resources.

>>23969414
well that's why the first place we go is a sex shop to get a remote control egg.

>>23969511
I thought it was mostly the jealousy and potential lack of restrain it brings about.

>>23969530
Can't use it we would probable lose it during the orgy.

>>23969381
I can live with this.

>>23969511
She's starting to get too big for her britches. We need to knock her down a peg, let her know we're in charge.

>>23969530
Of course.

>>23969560
I dont see it.

>>23969560
>>23969546
Somehow I get the feeling a talk isn't going to change much.

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>>23969475
Basically, she's been emotional about "break him, fuck the consequences" whenever she thinks about him crushing on us, while we're trying to be a lot more subtle and eliminate the threat with minimal risk.

She may also want a Poolboy for the harem, too.

We should take this opportunity in Paris to do some work rearranging her personality away from everybody else.

>>23969556
We can currently alchemize gold whenever we want, we can buy a replacement. Plus I expect Liz will be wearing her cock to the orgy, not the egg.

>>23969590
We've already told her to chill, we dont need to do it again.

>>23969346
>>23969511
>>23969516
>>23969546
Liz was abused as a child a couple of threads ago we discussed how that coupled withe her obvious jealousy and reliance on our judgment was bad for her and us in the long run.
We also suspect that she doesn't get that there are different kinds of love and that nothing can ever take he place.

We want her to be able to make good decisions without our input.

>>23969607
How about fucking no?
We're not using mind fuckery on Liz.

>>23969637
She's clearly got some emotional trauma she needs getting over. We get rid of that, she'll be a lot better for it. Why the hell shouldn't we? It doesn't hurt her.

>>23969556
what >>23969612 said but if the egg sits up in her vagina and her cock is in her ass cant she wear both at once if we get a small egg?

>>23969652
Because fucking with her mind instead of working through the issues like an actual couple is betraying her trust.

>>23969652

If we're doing that, we're doing it the regular way, not with invasive mind-fucking.

>>23969607
We're not mindfucking Liz.

>>23969652
Going into her mind and rearranging it is not the way we're doing that. We help her through emotional trauma the old-fashioned way, because we love her and don't go around violating the trust of the girl we love.

>>23969615
We've had to talk to her about this before.

We can let up now, but I'm on a three strikes your out basis, she's on strike two, anymore and we have to do something drastic whether or not she likes it.

>>23969681
"Love" is a pretty strong word here...

>>23969697
GET THE FUCK OUT.

>>23969615
we have tried to treat the symptoms and had at best minimal success this talk is about the cause.
I don't care about her wanting to break him as much as her lack of trust in us and good judgment.

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"Now you dress me," you tell her, gesturing vaguely to your neatly-folded clothes and holding out your arms. She nods and moves in. She starts by giving each of your nipples a long lick, which sends shivers down your back, then sticking the pasties to each of them. She takes your matching banana hammock and drops to her knees. She runs her cheek down the length of your cock, then plants a kiss on the top of the head that leaves a clear pair of lip marks before sliding the underwear up your legs and tucking your cock in.

After that, aside from doing things like pressing herself up against you, running finger tips across your abs, and squeezing your arms, she gets you nicely dressed, leaving you in your nice, perfectly-fitted suit. You take a look at yourselves in the mirror, you in your suit and Liz in her nice, pretty dress. You're looking forward to slipping her in to her tight, short little club dress later, after you ditch your own shirt and suit jacket.

She smiles at you and leans up against your shoulder.

"Ready to go, then, Mistress?"

What now?

>>23969697
Have you not been around for us being in a committed relationship and having told each other that we love each other? Have you not been around for the fact that she's our daughter's mommy? Is this your first thread of this quest?

>>23969625
Ok, here's the thing, I agree with everything in your post and thank you for responding. However, what we plan to do to Pierre does not come from malice or jealousy. It is not impulsive or us lashing out. We are exploiting the trust of a declared enemy to remove him from this deadly game, non lethally. We plan to use him as a resource because it is too dangerous to use him as a mole (Dextra specializes in enchantment, remember. They'll notice if he's passing secrets). We might break him later, but that's a separate issue to me. I just don't see how this relates to Liz's issues, which are jealousy and impulse control. I know I have to be trying your patience, but I honestly do not see the connection you're making here.

>>23969607
>>23969637
>>23969652
>>23969677
>>23969679
>>23969681
the only way i would mind fuck her is with her explicit permission and only in a way she explicitly agreed to, that we planed out as a couple. Even that is hot as hell for my MC fetish though.

>>23969737
We got the collar in pocket? If not tell her to go to the circle and we'll be there in half a second.

But yeah, ready to go.

>>23969805
yes, this, mustn't forget the collar

but otherwise good to go

>>23969737
I'm 90% sure that she isn't wearing panties, I don't think we would ever do such a thing, but if she is remove them right now.

Give her a kiss. "I'm ready to go Slut."

Gather up our stuff, make sure we have the collar hidden and with us without her noticing, get Lin, get a teleport to Paris.

>>23969793
That I'd be perfectly okay with. If it's with her full consent and understanding I'm fine with rearranging a few things in her mind to make her happier.

>>23969737
yes lets (take her hand)
(don't forget a wallet with plenty of cash and the collar)

>>23969778
all good points

>>23969737

double check we have the following: Temp foci, documents, collar, money.

>>23969737
"Almost kitten." Go down and give Selene one last kiss, then grab our bags and get dad to teleport us out. Actually, throw up some mental wards before we head out, just in case.

>>23969827
The collar's in our overnight bag.

>>23969737
this >>23969882
and check on the list in>>23969845

>>23969737
Teleport to a backalley near the hotel, drop off bags at the room, and go sightseeing.

>>23969882
Mental wards 100% do them.

>>23969637
Care to give a good reason why not?

>>23969677
We could talk to her first. Not all enchantment has to be an attack, you know.

>>23969737
Make sure we have the collar, feeldo (for later naughtiness and embarrassment), money and any documents we need. Then we can head off.

>>23970006
Wasn't involved in the conversation before, but I just wanted to say that if we gat consent we should probably do some exploration (see how bad the root causes of her issues actually were) before we start making adjustments.

>>23969949
Oh yeah, good point. Do this.

"You head on up," you tell her. "I'm just going to grab a few things, then I'll be up after you."

She nods and heads up. You grab your wallet - which contains your driver's license, your debit card, and over a hundred euros - your passport, and three temporary foci containers, one for a mind shield, one for a physical shield, and one for a mental attack. You also take the long, crisply-wrapped case for Liz's collar and slip that into the inside pocket of your suit jacket. You're still not sure if you're going to give it to her by putting it on her, give it to her all wrapped up, or some other way, but at least you have your bases covered with it right now.

You head on up to the outbound circle after that, where Liz has your dad waiting. The two of you grab each other's hands, smile and wave to your dad, and are then standing behind the hotel in Paris. You walk up to the front, check in, drop off your small overnight bags in the room, and are then free to do what you want.

It's not quite 4:00 PM in Paris. You aren't due to meet up with everyone else until after 8:00 tonight.

What do you do first?

>>23970129

We did make sure to have at least a thousand euros somewhere, right?

>>23970129
How long does the mind shield last?

>>23970150
No. You have a little over a hundred in your wallet and a few hundred in your bank account. You've yet to actually do anything at all towards liquidating your gold.

>>23970150
Doesn't look like it. This will certainly impact our shopping budget for toys.

>>23970160
One scene.

>>23970129
sex shop, look through collars with her so she can find one she likes, then to the Eiffel tower, use crowd control spell to make every one think they have something better to do, so we are there all alone.

>>23970182
Ah, I was wondering about the liquidate assets time skip option. Oh well.

>>23970129
sex shop for the egg

>>23970215
>look through collars with her so she can find one she likes
Wat

>>23970230
to fake her out we should do this while we >>23970229

>>23970215
We have a collar for her, why would we take her shopping for collars. Also, no to obvious mass enchantments in public. How many damn cameras do you think are around the Eiffel tower?

>>23970256
That's just really dumb.

>>23970215
Vetoing the Eiffel tower idea, seems like a silly waste of power in a very public place.

>>23970265
>We have a collar for her, why would we take her shopping for collars.
Mindgames and teasing so the real, magically built shapeshifting one is all the more impressive.

>>23970215
Did you just skip over what happened for like, ten threads?

>>23970129
Go for a nice walk through Paris, enjoy the sights, be romantic and touchy, hold her hand a lot, tell her how much we love her, stop at a street vendor to get crepes and feed her, all of that gooey romantic stuff.

I also have no objections towards getting her a vibrating egg.

>>23970215
We already have one, no need to make her suspect anything by bringing up the subject. And emptying the Eiffel Tower is overt and silly.

>>23970265
>How many damn cameras do you think are around the Eiffel tower?
How many magic-detecting cameras do you think there are? It might be unwise to use magic in public, since we don't know much about how the Occult Underground operates, but cameras aren't the reason why.

Y'know, as a celebration we should let Liz pick someone out in Paris for us to take back home for Dinner. Or brunch, if we're reserving Dinner for Liz's mom.

>>23970256
>>23970306
>Fake her out
That's just retarded. This is supposed to be an important moment for both of us, not god damned April Fool's Day.

>>23970327
>Eiffel Tower mysterious empty except for two teenage girls
>Absolutely NO ONE is going to look into it
Please think before you post.

>>23970230
>>23970256
we don't get it ours can transform to what ever she wants this gives her a good base of ideas to start with. I love that plan.

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>>23970371

>>23970322
>silly
No, you can seriously wait multiple hours to get up there, it's overt and unwise but it's far from silly.

Anyways, we should go down by the river, by the Notre Dame and the hillside beyond it, and look at art together. Great thing to do that ISN'T going to have thousands of people crammed into a tiny space.

>>23970371
I'd rather spring it on her.

Voting against collar bait-and-switch. Let's just have a nice time with our girlfriend.

>>23970327
You think dextra's little brother agency uses magic cameras or mundane to gather information? Obvious displays of magic are obvious to trained observers. And the church isn't the only organization in on the supernatural game, not by a long shot.

>>23970438
To me, overt+unwise=silly (in the condescending sense, not as in funny). We may have to disagree

>>23970289
>>23970338
>>23970440
see
>>23970306
>>23970371
we don't buy we just look and tell her reasons why any collar she likes isn't good enough.
>>23970438
we don't tell her till after diner this makes it more of a surprise that we had one the whole time.

>>23970298
ditto

>>23970256
>>23970306
seriously? thats retarded, vetoed

>>23970504
>>>23970289
>>>23970338
>>>23970440
>see
>>>23970306
>>>23970371
It's dumb even without the intention of buying her one.

>>23970504
yea I like this

>>23970182
Fuck, so after the hotel and dinner, do we even have enough for the egg?

>>23970523
no bait-and-switch, that's fucking dumb.

>>23970504
>we don't buy we just look and tell her reasons why any collar she likes isn't good enough.
Oh yeah, that's real romantic. Just stop trying to kill the mood. We collar her, no gimmicks, no tricks.

>>23970544
fuck the egg veto the dumb ass egg

>>23970544
Don't we already have an egg?

Too many suggestions flying around on both sides for me to bother quoting. Dangling a purchaseable collar in front of her is dumb. If we happen to find her looking at collars on her own that's something else entirely. That we could play off of without being a jerk.

>>23970544
no egg save money for the clubs man we can get it latter

go to a nice dinner pay with our card then collar her lets stop fucking around.

>>23969778
As long as we discuss this rationally and don't rush to do it over objections this conversation will never annoy me more than my own horrible spelling and slow typing speed.

You are entirely correct as to why we would change Pierre and why changing him now is a good plan. (it is not my preference.) But imagine you are Liz Is this a probable internal dialog? Your Beloved Mistress just got done telling you about her Delicious plan to feminize your future Supper then Your Beloved Mistress starts talking about how you are a bad thoughtless Slut who cant be rational about your relationship {oh god is she dumping me am i[sic] not good enough? Stupid! Bad Slut!}* ...to clingy. I think your parents may play apart in this {is she judging me trying to tern me against My Family?!?} ... Love you and am worried about you. Do you understand Love? ...do i understand?{she expects an answer the only one she wants is yes otherwise i[sic] LOSE FOREVER my Beloved Mistress} I don't know what i think but Mistress gets what Mistress wants... "yes mistress"

things in{} are Liz's overactive voice of self hate and doubt caused by child abuse.

this will be hard no mater what we do. I want to reduce the Pierre and general mind break variables. dose that help explain it?

>>23970061
true fax that should be step on in any Safe Sane Consensual Mind Control Play or Serious.

>>23970006
withe her full consent we have 3 votes at least counting you me and >>23969831 otherwise you seem to be alone.

>>23970605
that works for me.

>>23970600
not with us I don't think we own one ether.

I want an egg to teas her all day but i admit funds are tight. we can go ether way IMO.

>>23970688
>I don't think we own one ether.
I'm pretty sure we had one that slotted into Liz's cock that we used to make it vibrate.

>>23970688
Please, for the love of god, tell me you are typing this on a phone or something.

>>23970619
Ok, I'm unable to put my head in subspace, so I'll concede Liz's internal monologue to you if we frame the conversation like that. My preference, however, would be to split everything you brought up into two different conversations, not to be had at the same time. The first about safety and the need for careful planing and consideration before acting against our fellow students, for whatever the reason (I believe we've already had this conversation, but I could be wrong). The second, which we shouldn't not ruin this weekend with, about Liz's codependency issues and how they might be related to childhood trauma. I see those as issues that while interrelated are best dealt with separately to avoid out of control panic and self abuse downward spirals inLiz's psyche/self perception. That's my two cents anyway. Thank you for the thought you put into your response, it's given me quite a bit to think about.

>>23970732
shit you are right we do.

>>23970562
No. The plan was to buy one when we got to Paris. We are sadly under funded and will have to make do...Maybe we could get mom to deposit another couple hundred in our account then pay her back during break?

>>23970732
Not remote controlled though. That's the issue here.

And it's quarter of one in NYC, I'm surprised Fem is still up and running.

>>23970829

We are absolutely not asking our mom to pay for our sex toys.

>>23970923
Who said anything about telling her it would be paying for sex toys? I was thinking travel expenses for a weekend eurotrip, but I suppose that's a flimsy excuse for the request.

>>23970794
You make a good point about not ruining the weekend. we have had the first conversation (twice I think) and it seems to have been only minimally effective.
I believe this is because we have not addressed the root issue shone in the second conversation. I want to do that this weekend because she will be super respective after we collar her, Dose tomorrow after we talk to Sam seem like a good idea to you?
also is bringing up a yellow safe-word right after we collar her a good idea in your opinion I suggest foxglove as it is another flower and is not used often in speech.

as for subspace being a switch rocks.

>>23970322
>Go for a nice walk through Paris, enjoy the sights, be romantic and touchy, hold her hand a lot, tell her how much we love her, stop at a street vendor to get crepes and feed her, all of that gooey romantic stuff.
>I also have no objections towards getting her a vibrating egg.
Seconded, and I also second the notion of subtly and slowly emptying the Eiffel Tower so we can present the collar to her without the usual crowds getting in the way. It'd be terribly romantic if it works, and it'd get Liz incredibly randy. If we can maintain the GO AWAY field, we could even have sex on the Eiffel.

>>23971198
that would be romantic but mean to the other tourists.

>>23971198
There is no way to subtly empty one of the greatest tourist attractions Paris holds. I'd also prefer we collar her somewhere more private, so we can start playing games with her shortly after.

>>23971198
I feel that emptying the Eiffel Tower is way too noticeable and suspicious. It may be romantic, but it's far from practical. And it'd be just mean to the other tourists.

We can collar her while looking at some nice view of Paris in relative privacy.

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>>23971240
>mean to the other tourists
>Implying we have empathy for the mundane masses now we're a WIZARD, and a MUSCLE WIZARD at that.

Perhaps we could break into the roof access of the hotel we're staying in and have a lovely candlelight picnic with wine and nibbles? What's the view like from the top of our hotel? Is it suitable?

>>23971117
We're talking to Sam tomorrow? Must have missed that. Tomorrow's better than today, I'd prefer wait a little longer but you're right that we should at least start this conversation soon. If we can find a descent way to segue onto the topic of her underlying issues (the proposed trauma and obsessiveness) then tomorrow would work. Expect there to be a few soul rolls though.

>>23971337
yes i assume we have empathy especially when we have no pragmatic reason not to be and definitely when we have a pragmatic reason to be as shown in>>23971266.

>>23971337
I'm all for that if the roof is nice and has a good view. Preferably prepped before hand with romantic stuff like rose petals and something soft for her to kneel on.

Making her strip and giving her nothing to wear but the collar and fucking her as we have a great view of the city that brought us together with her knowing that all of Paris might just be watching her devote herself entirely to her Mistress.

But that comes later, are we planning on doing the collaring before or after the clubbing?

>>23971379
yes Sam Liz and maybe Lin and Hera are all going out for coffee tomorrow morning in London,
I fully expect soul rolls.
Also anyone have any opinion on foxglove as a yellow safe word and telling her right after we finish fucking her brains out when we collar her.

>>23971473
before but after dinner.

>>23971337
Doesn't our hotel room have a veranda over looking the streets of Paris? I like your plan, but I'm not sold. Also, I doubt we have enough cash on hand for descent wine in Paris. Could be wrong I suppose.

Wait, have Max or Liz even developed tastes for wine yet? They're sixteen year old Americans after all.

So what do you guys actually do?

>>23971538
I think >>23970322
or something like it.

I'll let other people bicker about to get the egg or not, I'm fine either way.

>>23971538
Let's go out shopping, and discreetely check how much a rooftop candlelight picnic would cost under the cover of getting groceries/clubbing supplies.

>>23971538
Walk around. Look in a sex shop for an egg. See sights until we hit the clubs.

>>23971538
>>23971568
i vote egg

>>23971538
At this point? No fucking clue. I would have said go for a walk and stop by a sex shop, but I think our funds are probably too taxed by the overall trip already to make any purchases...

>>23971568
Seconding >>23971568, but voting against egg. Just make it a nice, leisurely romantic walkabout. We can save the lewd stuff for after we collar her.

If we do buy the egg, buy it discreetly so we can spring it on her at the same time as the collar.

>>23971538
>>23970322
this is fine don't get the egg we don't need it now and its going to cost money we don't have right now.

>>23971538
>>23971568
looks good but skip the sex shop we don't have the money right now

>>23971625
the point of the remote egg is to teas her all day otherwise there is no point in buying it.
>>23971635 has a point.
>>23971654
I still want to window shop.

>>23970322
This without the egg.

>>23971672
You tease her at the club, silly.

>>23971683
we can do both but funds are tight.

I have a solution! Tonight, once Liz is finally asleep (I expect we'll be carrying her home from the clubs) we use alchemy to make a few 200 euro bills. That pays for the hotel and/or a shopping spree before we head home.

>>23971759
counterfeiting is a bad plan.

>>23971759
Downvoting counterfeiting like an idiot.

>>23971759
Text Dad and see if he can send us some cash.

>>23971791
Well, we could always conjure it from someone else's pocket instead. But I suppose your right.

>>23971821
Seconding this. This is a far more sensible idea. We'll need it for after clubbing, when we spring the rooftop picnic.

>>23971838
>>23971821
he doesn't have any we have most of our cash on us we didn't liquidate money as an option so it is tied up in gold.

>>23971838
we are eating first we will be out till like 2 clubbing.

>>23971886
Fuck, we're poor? Is there no way for us to pay with gold? Doesn't France have its' own version of Cash 4 Gold or something?

>>23971936
to big a paper trail and to much time.
To do it discreetly takes a while and we cant do it in the wide open.

>>23971936
Can't we just magic people to give us shit?

>>23971886
Just drain the bank account and have dad liquidate the gold asap...

>>23971936
>Is there no way for us to pay with gold?
We can hand over a bit of gold but that does attract attention.

>>23971976
>>23971936
>>23971823
>>23971821
Why are you guys even worrying? we have nearly $200 USD in cash on us right now, and more sitting in a bank card, we aren't rich or anything but we aren't anything near tapped on funds for the night.

>>23972013
Do we? I saw we had $100, and that can run out pretty quickly when you're a tourist.

>>23972013
Because Paris is expensive as fuck and we haven't paid for the hotel room yet. That's going to be a chunk of our bank account.

>>23972013
I think we were hoping to throw around cash like a boss.

>>23971976
1 that costs drain
2 its not romantic for Liz
3 it is not descreet
4 it is evil unless it is a matter of safety Max is pragmatic not Evil.

>>23971982
see>>23971968

exactly we cant clear our shopping list but we can have fun.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:Blatant_Fetish_Quest#Shopping_List

>>23972048
hotel is paid up when we reserved it I assume.

>>23972013
This. We shouldn't be dropping a grand on sex toys or anything and what we have available should be more than enough for clubbing.

>>23972013
Do you know how much a decent meal costs in Paris? Do you know what night clubs cost? I haven't hit Paris clubs but I can tell you the meal will run you nearly double what you'd expect to pay elsewhere - more if your expectations are based on food-rich areas like the US.

>>23972050
next time i guess

we will do this again passably in new-york over break

So are you going to a sex shop to buy a vibrating egg or not?

>>23972035
That's $100 euros, the euro is worth nearly 2 USD.

>>23972099
No

>>23972099
with our current budget? no

besides we can always make a better one with MAJIK

>>23972099
Yes.

>>23972099
No.

>>23972099
nope.

>>23972119
No.

>>23972099
Not yet, we'll do that after clubbing. Let's get something to eat and do the whole snuggly-relationship thing - get dinner together, long walks around the city, buy a rose for Liz, etc.

>>23972035
We have a hundred euros and change in our pocket and at most three times that amount in the bank. Between the hotel, dinner, clubbing and breakfast we've may well have already blown that budget.

>>23972099
no we are going there to window shop.
then do >>23970322

>>23972050
Why? Liz already knows us and doesn't need to be impressed with bait, and would probably look down on us being wasteful with our relatively limited supplies of cash when she knows our current situation.

>>23972099
If we could afford it sure, doesn't look like that's the case so I guess we're doing the scenic walk and hitting up a museum or to for Liz instead. Rather disappointing turn of events, but we can only blame ourselves for that.

>>23972143
Conspicuous consumption is its own reward.

>>23972099
no.

>>23972099
No thanks.

>>23972169
>conspicuous
This worries me. Veto.

>>23972143
Conspicuous consumption can be fun If we had piles of Dosh Liz would have no problem Flaunting it once and a while. But we don't and she is practical enough to also respect our restraint.

>>23972099
Fuck it, we'll just pesonally skip meals while we're here since we don't need to eat much. Go for it.

>>23972221
>Not eating on a romantic date.

Well, that's certainly one way to kill a mood I guess.

Since no one's mentioned it, it seems like the dutiful thing for a daughter to do when she's (literally) making a lot of money is to send some back to her hard-working single mother.

We should look into that once more of our funds are fungible.

>>23972276
That is on the to do list the real hard part is avoiding attention while we do it. IRS records and all. We seem to have no problem wit taxes it is the paper trail and questions we hate.

>>23972180
Conspicuous in the sense that involves normal cash isn't a significant danger to us.

Voting we just call it quits for the night and figure this shit out tomorrow, assuming there's an Easter thread. G'night all.

You decide to take Liz out on a long walk around Paris. The climate and atmosphere have already changed from when you were here back in August, and you start by traveling around some of the places you had already seen last time you were here. You end up stopping at a restaurant whose reservation was established well in advance along your chosen route.

It's nice, with the two of you laughing and chatting, remarking on the city, and enjoying each other's company. The food is good, the atmosphere is great, and you think Liz is having a great time, especially since her leg keeps intentionally rubbing up against yours. The two of you end up back at the hotel, arm in arm, by about seven in the evening, happy and laughing.

I'm going to end it here for the night. I'm starting to get really tired. I'll archive this thread.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance
This thread is now archived. Remember to vote it up.

>>23972383
good game tonight
My only complain is i still think you messed up about the foci count see http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23641994/#p23963912

But i had fun and it is not that big a deal.

A shared resources sheet would prevent this argument in the future have a nice night see you tomorrow.

>>23972383
Is the hotel prepaid as suggested? That could greatly influence our decisions tomorrow.

>>23972383
suggestion for what we do in tomorrows thread

Order Liz to strip and kneel down in front of us and to close her eyes, then we get the collar out and hold it directly in front of her then tell her to open her eyes.

as she stares at the collar we slowly bring it closer to her, telling her that we love her and want her to wear this symbol that she is truly ours.then we gently fasten it around her neck and explain the latch and transformation functions.

>>23972753
second also tell her her yellow safe word is Fox glove,

>>23972796
Mostly that was a plea for someone to remember to post that next thread, as I will be at easter dinner instead of posting.

>>23972858
I will try but i often miss the start of threads.

>>23972383
And I finally figured out what's been bugging me. If we use our debit card we're going to end up with a hold on our bank account since there's no travel record of us leaving Romania. Best case scenario is that we will end up flagged by the mundane authorities for suspicious travel patterns. Worse case scenario is that clued in organizations might add us to there data base of potential magic users, or add tracking data of us and Liz to their files. Either way, we probably get one use of our card before it gets deactivated, assuming this is being run realistically.

>>23973620
shit you may exaggerate a little but you are right we cant use our card. That sucks next thread we should text Liz and warn her of the issue.