>>23955324

How's our fuel and ammunition holding? Medical supplies?

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>>23955324
But crude works, since the labor you're having them do is of the most basic nature, and most beneficial to yourself.

For the past five days, your engineers have been hard at work, bolstered by the gebirsjaeger soldiers that have arrived recently. An underground pipeline has been laid from your oil extractor to your moderately large refinery, which continues to supply fuel to your growing fleet of vehicles. You're currently running a mild surplus, which is being used to supply extra energy towards the construction efforts

Siegfried, under the watch of the new Gestapo officer that arrived with the other political support staff, appears to be extracting plenty of information from what mages could be captured of the Baron's forces. By no means is he making leaps and bounds, but he seems to be achieving a modicum of success in understanding the arcane.

Your primary assets, however, remain your men and your advanced technology. Your doctors tend to the wounded as best they can, your surgical hospital finding some good use after arrow injuries and residual effects from the enemy spellcasters.

Your general purpose factory, utilizing a focus on being able to quickly respecialize rather than dedicated production, activates towards the tail end of the working queue, though it still requires workers to operate it in addition to your concrete production facility.

Your hangars are currently capable of housing 10 Junkers, or an equivalent scale of bomber craft, though you currently have neither.

What are you orders, Oberst?

>>23955368
Personnel of Note:
>Hans - Tank Guy [+2 Influence]
>Gunther Hinden - Scary commando with an MG34 prototype ('Gertrude') [-1 Influence]
>Alfred - Infantryman
>Fritz - Whiny Medic
>Gretta - Radio operator lady
>Gabriella - Sexy scientist
>Alphonse - Head Mechanic
>Father Vickerson - Chaplain
>Eric Mottle - Master at Arms for Baron Farnsworth
>Dr. Buren - Psychology/Sociology/Pathology/Pharmacology/General Medicine Doctor
>Dr. Klein - Chief of Surgery and expert surgeon. [+1 Influence]
> Albert Siegfried - Thule Society representative [+1 Influence]

Assets:
Base camp established near Gate.
Heavy construction and manufacturing equipment
100 Prisoners, plus Baron Farnsworth, currently being held captive in the infirmary under armed guard.
Booze procured
2/3rd ton platinum, 2/3rd ton quartz, 2/3rd ton marble

Troops:
>[ ] One Squad of SS Commandos.
>[ ] 220 Wehrmacht infantrymen. These are broken down into 5 squads of 8, including a medic and a machine gunner, as well as submachine gun soldiers and riflemen.
>[ ] 1 Company of Gebirgsjager, numbering approximately 100 men
>[ ] 24 Opel Blitz light trucks, carrying ammunition, medical supplies, and fuel.
>[ ] 10 Krupp Protze heavy trucks, carrying the above, in addition to heavier construction materials and supplies.
>[ ] 4 Sd.Kfz. 251 with machine guns, towing a pair of FlaK 38.
>[ ] 2 Sd.Kfz. 247
>[ ] 1 Panzer IV tank
>[ ] Two squads of a dozen Combat Engineers each, able to quickly erect fortifications and assist in military constructions.
>[ ] 1 Flakpanzer IV (Wirbelwind)
>[ ] Four science teams, including a pair of geologists.
>[ ] A detachment of Gestapo and SS politcal officers, numbering twenty men.
>[ ] An artillery detachment of 3 leFH 18s, in addition to a dozen mortar pieces with associated ammunition.

>>23955368

Do we have accurate maps to the town the Baron came from? If so, begin preparations for a mechanized sortie to the town.

>>23955384
Currently Built:
>[ ] Mess Hall [Concrete]
>[ ] Triage Tent [Basic]
>[ ] Surgical Hospital [Basic]
>[ ] Infirmary [Basic]
>[ ] Barracks [Concrete]
>[ ] Bar [Basic]
>[ ] Machine Gun Nests [Basic]
>[ ] Anti-tank emplacements [Primitive]
>[ ] Perimeter watchtowers [Primitive]
>[ ] Wooden Pallisade [Primitive]
>[ ] Latrines
>[ ] Command Post [Concrete]
>[ ] Emergency water storage drums [Two weeks' worth]
>[ ] Steel prison cages
>[ ] Western observation post
>[ ] Warehouse [Basic]
>[ ] Science Lab [Basic]
>[ ] Magic Lab [Basic]
>[ ] Airstrip [Primitive]
>[ ] Stables [Primitive]
>[ ] Riverside Village Outpost [Basic] [12 Man Garrison] [Connecting Dirt Road]
>[ ] Motor Depot [Basic]
>[ ] Fortified Bridge [Stone]
>[ ] Machine Shop/Repair Depot [Basic]
>[ ] Oil Refinery [Basic]
>[ ] Hangar [Capacity: 10]
>[ ] Prison Camp [Basic] [Capacity: 250] [Concrete Production]
>[ ] General Purpose Factory [Basic]

>>23955360
You have a surplus of both fuel and medical supplies, your men churning out more and more of the former. Ammunition stocks are holding high as well, though slightly depleted from the extended engagement, there's more than enough to hold out for two or three battles like that. Your warehouse in particular has plenty of unopened crates of bullets.

Medical supplies are also at a surplus, though Riverside has put a slight strain on them, your men remain consistently healthy. The rat problem has also been taken care of, the creatures falling prey to your complex technological murder-gizmos, commonly called "Rat Traps".

>>23955406
You have a general outline of what Redding looks like, but Gunther's sortie was unable to get a full cartographic overlook of the town in question. He has outlined several vulnerabilities in there, however, including a sewer grate his squad opened that would allow infantry access into a (noxious) arterial network across the city.

Schutze reporting in! Catching up now, a thread went by and I didn't notice!

>>23955408

We'll want to expand our water holding capacity, that's our biggest weakness right now.

Do we have any idea on how many troops we might be able to get through on the next resupply?

Have we fixed that damnable bridge on the way to riverside yet?

Get those MG nests set up on the forest side of our base. also, see about setting up some tunnels going from outside of our base underneath the ring where any potential siege army would set up to allow for easy deployment of troops to their flanks.

Upgrading the outpost in Riverside may prove benificial. See about setting up a 'missionary' there to not only bring religion to the people there, but also to educate them, thus preparing them to work in our factories. introduce them to the Deutsche Mark.

>>23955415
do we have any gas masks or chemical warfare gear with us? It will not only protect our forces when infiltrating Redding, but also scare the hell out of the locals...

>>23955434

That isn't standard issue kit, so I doubt it.

>>23955430
Standard Gate openings, such as what will occur in 25 days, allow four 'supply choices'. You could theoretically get 800 Wehrmacht infantry if you focused solely on procuring those.

Expanding your water capacity will be easy enough with your surplus of building materials on-hand, however. What do you wish to be your new water reservoir?

Also, you may wish to expand your barracks facilities, as your population is currently hovering around four hundred with civilian and other extra personnel. Your barracks has housing capacity for three hundred.

>>23955434
>>23955450
Your warehouse has gas masks for potential chemical warfare gear stocked in it, but as it is not part of regular kit, your men are not currently supplied. You don't have much of a surplus of filters either, but gas warfare or a hostile atmosphere was not an immediate expectation or concern on this expedition.

Setting up MG nests on the western side is possible, but their range is still limited to the forest edge. Constructing underground tunnels is possible, but you should decide if you want basic dirt tunnels, concrete tunnels, fortified tunnels, or a full underground bunker complex.

Father Vickerson could be dispatched with some political officers to Riverside to convert the locals, as well as potentially indoctrinate them.

Lets invite the baron for dinner, discuss the possibility of ransom and the political situation.

He is probably very talkative after having seen us in action.

>>23955475

Ah.

Well, for the machine gun nests, we'll want them.

As for water, we'd want at least a month's worth for a battalion's worth of men, as well as purification facilities.

>>23955510
I don't think we should be worrying to much about base infrastructure at the moment.

Now that the Barron has attacked us our first objective should be to retaliate and take Redding.

We won't be able to accurately decide what needs doing here at the base until we know what resources Redding has to offer, and what needs to be built there.

>>23955475
Our first objective needs to be information gathering. So time to rake the Barron over hot coals, er I mean invite the Baron to dinner.

Also have Alfred Gunterh and Eric put their heads together and come up with a plan to take Redding.

>>23955493
>>23955636
I agree about securing Redding, but we need someone acting in between us and the population. To keep business as usual and keeping the inhabitants calm.

Eric would be a good middle-man, if we could locate him.

>>23955636

Read; LIBERATE redding. With a Baron like that and an army that was barely armed and armoured?

We'll want to investigate and try to bust Eric out. I bet we could do this without wasting ammo if we get the people behind us.

>>23955636

We'll be getting ANOTHER company of infantry in a month. We need the logistical base to support them.

Besides, a mechanized platoon along with Hans and 2 platoons of infantry on trucks should be enough.

>>23955728
Agreed. A surplus of living space is far preferable to having a tent army and dirty civies making our image less than Aryan perfect. If we can't prove that we are better in every way than we are not living up to the Fuhrer's expectations.

>>23955728
Do we know roughly what size Redding is? Depending on it's size we may be able to billet a company or more there.

>>23955780

In medieval conditions? We may as well roll out the mat for every disease known to man.

Yes, we might need to build a FOB near Redding, but we sure as shit ain't quartering with locals.

>>23955680
Eric is supposedly being held prisoner in the Baron's home city of Swordhenge, which is located several days away from Redding, but in the same western direction.

>>23955510
Purification facilities might take some time, as you lack desalination tools, but the river itself is pure water as far as you can tell. A month's worth of water could be stored in massive steel drums that would take a day to construct, or you could excavate an artificial pond that flows from and back into the river if you desire, though this would take three days to accomplish with your heavy construction equipment.

>>23955636
>>23955676
>>23955680
>>23955725
>>23955728
You should elect what forces to send, but Gunther recommends a force of no less than one hundred men, plus the armored cars. He actually thinks closer to two hundred will be sufficient, with the tank included and some Blitzes full of extra supplies. The goal is to take and hold the keep that sits in the center of the rather small city.

>>23955780
>>23955676
Redding has a population of approximately 15,000, of which Gunther estimates a hundred to three hundred are active military or guard personnel.

The Baron can be spoken with if you wish, but the child remains as petulant as ever, even after his wardens had to (lightly) smack him around and restrain him to keep him from trying to attack them.

>>23955808

For now, I recommend we set up an OP and get accurate maps drawn up. We'll get a mech platoon, Panzer IVs, a company of infantry and a good convoy of supplies in the next month and then we can use that to occupy Redding.

>>23955794
If Redding is big enough I'm sure there will be a noble's House or two that with work could be serviceable.

Failing that, we can always burn down a section of the city to give us room for a FOB inside the cities walls.

>>23955859


That just invites the same sanitation problems, and is a potential security risk. There's a reason most bases are built outside but near a city.

>>23955808
Why take and hold the keep? Granted, holding a castle will definitly make a standing impression with the locals but 100 men (recommended bare minimum) plus logistics will tie up a great deal of our manpower and vehicles for no gain other than population sway. We should just raid the town and rescue our friendly, making nearly as much impression with our casual breaking into said keep and walking out with the prisoner. I doubt that the (admittedly large) civilian populace will bother us too much after our bangsticks turn their heaviest armored guardsmen into swiss cheese.

>>23955808
After this thing is over (Assaulting Redding and Swordhenge) I say we ask Gunther to train us a bit. There will be a time in which we need to defend ourselves or participate in combat and when that happens I believe we should be prepared.

>>23955845
Where do you wish to set up an observation post in relation to Redding, and with what forces?

>>23955913
Such is also an option if you desire. Gunther speaks up on this concept, as well as Alfred.

Gunther: "If we take and hold the keep, we'll have undisputed control of the city. Not only will we be able to use the sewers, but the keep is likely situated along several major avenues through the city. We could strangle any defenses or resistance from that point, not to mention the political message it'd send to the locals."
Alfred: "A quick strike would likely work better for our purposes, Oberst. while laying siege would likely end in our favor, we may run into problems with any nobles or local resistance seeking to undermine our control of the city. A direct strike to decapitate local leadership should let the city fall into chaos, and we can retake it with a larger force."

Your friendly, Eric, is currently held in Swordhenge: If you wish to circumvent Redding entirely and scout out Swordhenge instead, you may do so, but both Gunther and Alfred think it wiser to take the nearby city to ensure supply lines are secure.

>>23955957
You are already trained in how to fight as an Oberst, though you are by no means a special forces officer. You're quite adept with both your trench fighting sword and your sidearm, though Gunther could train you further if you wish.

>>23955974

For now, we'll make it a platoon sized recce FOB in a camoflaged position supplied via truck-based convoy and manpack'd supplies, with a single squad pulling actual OP duty from about 1km away. They'll do route and area recces around the town to build a picture of the ground before we get a geomatics team there to build maps we can call for fire on.

Also, for the resupply next month, here's my idea:

Slot 1 - Infantry Company
Slot 2 - Platoon of 4 Panzer IVs (Why we can only get a platoon when we can get 200 infantry through at once is kinda weird but w/e)
Slot 3 - Mechanized Infantry, as many as we can squeeze
Slot 4 - Trucks with building materials, medical supplies, and ammunition

Thoughts?

>>23955865\
I know, but I'm not sure that we'll be able to project a large enough display of power to keep a hostile town in line with our base located outside the city walls.I suppose it depends on how amicable the populace is to their "liberation".

Once we've secured the town, elevating their standard of living should be a top priority. If we can get sanitation up to snuff, disease shouldn't be a concern.

Speaking of disease, I'm mildly surprised we haven't given the locals some form of pox or plague already.

>>23955974
I vote for a quick overwhelming strike. If we hit them hard enough we can get them to surrender in larger numbers. Many of these nobels will become "vassals" and will be potential assets at a later point in time.

>>23955974
You know, if we take the keep Gunther's way, it will effectively BE a decapitation strike such as Alfred proposes. A commando strike through the sewers of, say, a hundred men, backed up by the armored cars and another hundred men attacking into the city proper, should do nicely.


>>23955384
Just a nit pick, but 5 squads of 8 is only 40 Wehrmacht. 220 is 22 squads with 2 loose infantrymen.

>>23955974
I was thinking, the Gebirgsjager are do a pretty good job at recon yes? How about we sent some of them to scout out Swordhenge while we take over Redding?

>>23956042

We'll have at least one detached tank assuming we get a platoon, trucks, and maybe half-tracks. If that doesn't scare them, not much will. Plus, we'll probably establish checkpoints at every gate.

We should give Gunther everything he thinks he needs to make the immediate capture of Redding. Judging from the ill equipped nature of the Barron's first attack we don't have to worry about any serious threats to the base camp in the immediate future.

>>23956029
I'm not sure we should waste a slot on bulding supplies. With Redding under our control, we should be able to secure raw materials to build with easier then using precious gate resources.

Probably, more machining tools to expand our factory base on this side of the gate. Soon we might have access to a much greater labor pool.

>>23956063
(Er, 27 squads)

>>23956042
If you'll recall, there is a fort inside the city. We can use that as an interim outpost.

>>23956089

We'll want the steel and concrete, mostly.

That way we can get the Redding garrison up ASAP assuming we go with that plan.

>>23956097
We've got a concrete plant going already, and we're sitting on top of an iron ore vein. The steel question can be taken care of by beginning mining operations, though we'll need manpower for that.

God, I am tired of this brat. Lets invite him and Siegfried for dinner and let the brat know that if he doesn't want to be useful to us, then we will make use of him..

>>23956129
Make use of him in what way?

>>23956122

Which we don't have, also we'd need to get the mine up, then a smelter, then a steel mill, plus we'd need all the other components to make steel.

For now, that's a bit much for our base.

>>23956029
Perhaps its a mass problem? The average Panzer IV was 25 tonnes. Maybe more with full combat loadout.

>>23956029
Seconded. This sounds like a pretty sensible requisition to me, though the medical supplies should include a decent chunk of water purification materials so we don't have to worry about dysentery and etcetera if we come under siege. This would be especially advantageous if we divert a water source to our camp as in >>23955808.

>>23956151
Basic steel can be made using a medieval-level smelter, using iron stock, charcoal, and wood. Not to say we don't have infrastructure to build, but I don't think it's quite so dire as you seem to think.

That said, if we ARE going to use a supply slot on building materials, we should use it solely on metals. Stone and wood are both easy to come by on this side of the gate.

>>23956143
>>23956129

If he doesn't want to talk, we will make him talk.

If his noble position, which is meaningless to us doesn't translate into something we can use, then we might as well put him into a labor camp, and if he proves to be more trouble than he is worth, there is always the possibility of a shallow grave when Siegfried has done has he pleases with him.

We definitely need those Stukas. Imagine the effect there sirens will have not only on their footsoldiers but especially on their horses! Their cavalry will be useless.

>>23956192
But emphasis on that we would rather not do that, we would prefer a civil solution, but his former actions makes us very concerned that we might not have it the civil way.

>>23956063
>Numbers adjusted

Such a battle plan is entirely feasible for you to do, if you so desire.

>>23956029
This plan is also feasible, though there is a mild concern amongst your officers of potential discovery by local huntsmen or similar persons while scouting the area, though binoculars give them an impressive advantage.

>>23956042
>>23956063
>>23956065
>>23956069
>>23956089
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>>23956097
You can certainly dispatch the Gebirsjager to move in advance towards Swordhenge if you so desire, especially while you take over Redding, but Gunther has a recommended force size in mind for an assault and takeover of Redding. A brutal plan likely to result in many enemy deaths, but one that will likely prove successful.

>10 squads, 80 men total, through the sewers with gas masks to reduce bacterial exposure.
>5 squads, 40 men total, with the full artillery detachment, three kilometers out, sandbagging the area and protecting it against potential incursion.
>5 squads, another 40 men, accompanied by both of the 247s towards the city's front gates, advancing directly towards the city.
>Panzer IV and combat engineers in the flank. Combat engineers will escort a pair of Protze trucks loaded with fortification materials such as sandbags, barbed wire, and steel sheeting.

His plan appears to be having the men use the sewers to emerge at key points across the city, slaughtering every armed person in sight, while the tanks and engineers storm through the front gates. Soldiers in the sewers will also carry dynamite and other blasting materials, with the objective of annihilating the city's barracks, the keep's front gate, the city armory, and any other vital defensive fortifications within the opening move.

The intent appears to be slaughtering every possible defender in one violent swoop, with all elements linking up after the initial demolition, and advancing towards the keep with heavy artillery covering fire.

>>23956226
I like this plan, most efficient.

I would prefer having a middle-man in position when dealing with the aftermath. There should be a mayor or a minor noble or some merchant that we can make an arrangement with.

>>23956226
Hmmm. An effective plan, more than likely, but the defenders are likely to be militia, and thus a potential resource if we can take the town without slaughtering too many of them. Going straight for the keep (possibly using a frontal assault as a distraction) would allow us to avoid wasting this potential resource unduly.

>>23956226
His plan, Yes. YES. This is precisely the strike we need to take the fight out of them before it is even born. If possible, give the men infiltrating through the sewers hoods so that they appear as reapers.

>>23956226

Incredibly direct, but first I'd like to see if they'll surrender peacefully. No sense wasting the ammunition and explosives if we can help it.

Of course, should they decide to oppose the Reich, well, then that's not our problem.

>>23956151
>>23956122
While you do need a mine, smelter, and steel mill, plus other components, such facilities would likely outstrip any facilities currently being utilized in cities like either Swordhenge or (Predictably) Redding.

>>23956161
The issue with tanks vs infantry is that there's a certain percentage of troop loss in the last two gate transits, except for the last one. Infantry are viewed as easier to lose as compared to a tank or prototype vehicle, due to the associated expenses and value of them in the front lines. If stability can be assured, more armor can be funneled through, but the Reich is attempting to conserve its armor assets and aircraft for the Poland invasion.

>>23956280
>>23956283
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>>23956297
You could dispatch an envoy if you desire, but that might put some of your forces in a situation to be taken hostage should a request for surrender go over poorly.

The plan of action remains within your hands.

>>23956297
would be good if we could get a surrender without firing a shot, but how to best to this? maybe have some slightly more expendable commandos infiltrate into the keep and 'persuade' the cities leadership to comply with our wishes

if they say no fire off a signal flare and go with Gunthers plan

>>23956297
Expending the munitions will be worth it, we are working on our infamy. If we subvert the city fast and efficiently, then we might encounter little resistance later on.

>>23956314
>taken hostage
which is why they should not be terribly important, and have commandos in the sewers ready to kick the fight off

>>23956334
>>23956322
>>23956315
Gunther's men could be dispatched as the envoys as desired. They seem to have an unusual knack at violence and success for some reason: Even when put at the flank of the Baron's entire army, they seemed to hold their position with only minor injuries in the form of a few glancing arrow hits and some burns from a mage's spellcraft.

However, Gabriella is gaining a rapid proficiency with the local language, as are Siegfried and Dr. Buren.

It remains up to you just who you send, or if you go to the Keep personally, which may prove somewhat risky, but you are, after all, your own best advocate for security.

>>23956334
Have the tank blow in the front gate with its cannon, then politely ask them to come out and talk. They'll be much easier to persuade afterwards and we'll keep the commandos in reserve should we see any kind of duplicity or refusal.

If they cooperate, we'll still have them exit through the sewers to prove that we are NOT to be refused in any case.

>>23956224
>>23956192
If you wish to invite the Baron and Siegfried to talk, you can certainly do so, though it is uncertain just what the Baron might know, for he is still a child and likely heavily reliant on his own underlings for day-to-day activities.

>>23956377
hrm, seems to be the best of both worlds, keeping our men 'safer' and giving them a chance to peacefully surrender, but would mean we have less chance of surprise if things get loud, although we could still have men in the sewers, infil'd before we knock on their door, ready to erupt if need be

>>23956408
>>23956377
Gunther considers this plan as well.

"We could attempt to have the men sneak into the sewers under the cover of night, then roll the tank forward," He remarks, "But keep in mind that the tank might be exposed to any mages on the walls or nearby if we do that. I'm not certain if their magic can knock a tank out, but they did a pretty number on the front gate."

>>23956408
Even though we lose the complete element of surprise, we gain the advantage of them moving most if not all of their guards to the gate, making our commado's job even easier.

>>23956435
hrm, what would siegfried think would be the range of a mage?

because our tank can always stay 50-100m out of their range, while not as imposing its gun should get their attention

>>23956467
very true, if we manage to persuade the cities leadership to talk to us out front it leaves the keep effectively undefended as its men would be defending their lords at the gate

our men could force capture of it either with none or very little resistance

>>23956473
>>23956467
>>23956408
>>23956377
Gunther hasn't the faintest idea what their range is, and Siegfried is equally uncertain: Though his ability to understand magic is growing, his scientific understanding is limited by the nature of the subject.

As it is, you seem to be inclined towards this plan of approach. Do you wish to commit the force Gunther has recommended, or alter his notion? He also recommends sending at least ten of the Blitzes with additional supplies, as well as to tow the artillery pieces.

>>23956503
Lets go with Gunthers plan!

>>23956435
The Panzer IV's cannon had an effective range of over a mile. I doubt their mages can attack a 1/4 of that distance, keeping us well within accurate distance to knock on their door without risking our valuable armor.

>>23956503

First we'll try the envoy plan. But we won't send them out alone.

I vote for all our mechanized assets with Hans leading, and 2 platoons of infantry mobilized onto trucks to dig in on the road to our base around 1.5km away from Redding, preferably out of sight. They'll act as the ORV in case the surrender talks don't work, and then we can send in Gunther.

>>23956503
I say we implement Gunthers plan but have the men wait for our 'go' order, knock on their gate and lure them out, then sneak the commandos into the keep, the rest of the soldiers can be on standby if the commandos need them or we need to fuck their shit up

our primary objective in this battle is the keep, lets try and gear the element of surprise towards this, not the start of hostilities but giving our commandos the best possible chance to take the keep

>>23956513
I prefer Gunther's original plan.

Once Redding is ours by force, we can use it as an example of how futile resistance is in negotiating with other towns.

If the surrender peaceably, we haven't given the populace a reason to fear the Reich's might.

>>23956590

If they surrender peacefully we don't use up precious ammunition and explosives, and we can more easily indoctrinate the populace.

>>23956535
>>23956517
>>23956513
>>23956481
>>23956547
>>23956590

While you order the appropriate force to mobilize, your base is once again alive with dizzying activity as trucks are loaded with crates of artillery shells, magazines, clips, and countless kilos of ammo, food, and water.

You watch as Gunther and his men rally, the new initiates for commando training getting some last preparation orders as they're organized into an underling squad and equipped with excess vests of body armor.

You are left with a question, however, as you watch a squad of men form a chain to the rear loading dock of the warehouse, tossing crates of grenades betwixt each other to the back of a truck.

Who, if anyone, shall you dispatch as your envoy and potential sacrificial lamb?

You could always storm the city, eliminating that risk, but that option possesses its own separate network of issues. Both of which are viable options at this point, but it comes to you to decide which.

Gate 21 raw is out and kinda translated
Let's see if I do this right.
>>>/a/82530118

>>23956606
>BEGONE SPAMMER OF--
>Wait
>What is this?
>Not Sure If Should Stuka

>>23956601

We'll send our 2IC to act as the envoy, with appropriate guard detail.

They will not enter the town and will stay near their transport at all times.

>>23956601
As commanding officer, you have no choice but to go yourself.

>>23956615
how can you not know of Gate? it is essentially this quest but replace the nazis with the japanese self defense force in modern times

>>23956619
should we bring siegfried to possible shield us from magic attacks?

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>>23956606
>The only country with black men among their agents is America!
HAHAHAHA

>>23956634
Indeed, there is a link to it in the previews thread I think.

>>23956634
>Never really was a fan of Japanese manga or the like.

>>23956617
>>23956619
>>23956642
You could dispatch Siegfried with either yourself or Gunther, whomever you decide to send as your envoy, to provide magical protections. Siegfried seems agreeable to this notion in either instance.

Siegfried: "I could, at the very least, ensure that no mental meddling is utilized by any third parties present at the meeting. I do not doubt that this city will possess spellcasters-- of what number or potency, I do not know. Regardless, I would prefer to have some platinum or quartz with me to empower myself should I need to engage in any sort of arcane dueling. My skills are still rather remarkably weak when it is outside of specific, ritual, and premeditated acts of magic."

>>23956667
siegfrieds better than nothing, bring him along

as to the envoy, the micromanager in me says send Hans... whats everyone elses thoughts

>>23956688
>Hans
as in us, not tank man, hes already coming along for the ride but shouldn't be envoy unless we need to be diplomatic with our tank

>>23956667
Gunther needs to be with his men. Take Siegfried with you to the negotiations.

And extra grenades.

>>23956667

We'll take us, a squad, and Siegfreid in a half-track. Get Siegried some quartz and platinum to make sure we're good to go.

Rolled 22

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You elect to go yourself, donning your cap as Gunther and his men depart first, the soldiers forming an advance party as the rest of your forces move onwards. Loaded down with extra supplies and as much ammunition as each man can safely carry, the convoy of Blitzes and Protze trucks, accompanied at the front and flank with heavier vehicles, is a constant stream of motors. While far from silent in the late hours of the night, your forces move faster than any stallion could ever hope to, covering countless kilometers across all hours. Riding in your own Blitz, you catch scant hours of sleep as the drivers keep going at all hours of the day and night.

As such, it only takes two days before Gunther signals the convoy to stop, now only three kilometers away from the city, the convoy stopping along a section of road that curves around a hill. The trees are mostly gone in this area, and although you passed a smattering of farmsteads along the way, you have thus far had no sign of any locals or natives to this region.

Throughout the trip, Siegfried has been constantly scrawling into his iron-bound grimoire with a pen, apparently working on some unknown project or concept you can only catch faint glimpses of. It seems to be some sort of monster, but you can never get too good a look at his idea.

At the foot of Siegfried's spot on your truck is a footlocker filled with quartz and platinum, mostly quartz, considering the value of platinum. He has yet to do anything with it, but has apparently fashioned a way to 'plate armor' his chasuble with bars of the rock.

>>23956761
I agree with guy.

Rolled 4

>>23956881
As the convoy slows to a halt, your radioman's unit comes to life. Hans confirms that he has the force's flanks covered, whereas Gunther radios that he and the infiltration force will be moving the moment the sun touches the ground. The rest of the forces are moving out, the artillery detachment preparing to set up where you've stopped. There's a nearby hill that might make a better artillery position, but it's also partially exposed to the city beyond. You could also go there yourself to observe the city.

Do you wish to proceed on and engage the front gate's men in an envoy role, or wait for Gunther and his men to attempt their infiltration?

>>23956772
>Glad you do! In addition, are there any elements that participants, either new or old, would enjoy seeing/seeing more of?

>>23956887

Diplomacy first. No sense wasting rounds if we can spare it.

>>23956887
It can't hurt to go ahead and see if we can't talk to someone in charge. Just make sure we have a line to our arty once its set up and have Gunther and his boys have sharp shooters set up to cover us if a retreat is necessary

>>23956887
What are you rolling for?

I say we take Gunther with us and examine the city for a bit

>>23956916
From the hill I mean

>>23956887
I have yet to even read the archives, so I'm flying by the seat of my pants here.

Let's observe from the hill until Gunther has infiltrated. (he can join us on the hill for a bit if he likes).

We can approach at night, (and attack if necessary) or we can wait, make overtures during the day, then appear to withdraw peacefully and attack in the wee hours of the following morning (0100-0400 is when the night sentries will be least effective)

>>23956938

Out mighty aryan kommandos probably won't be happy with waiting in the sewers any longer than they have to, but it's what they signed up for.

I vote that we OK the infiltration (Can our radios reach into the sewers? If we can't do voice, at least short morse code commands) and let them ping us when they are in position, then begin negotiations. If the negotiations go stupid, let us teach these primitives of the story of Troy.

Either way, Gunther and his group should get first pick of the booze cellars when the city is ours.

>>23956974
I am supportive of this plan.


...I should hope I am, I suggested the verdammt thing first.

>>23956974

On that note, we'll have to add a few subterranean twisted copper pairs when we next make a road.

We should also teach a Discworld style semaphore system to the locals, if they don't have anything similar -- it's easy for us to snoop on and we have better tech.

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>>23956916
>>23956921
>A variable! Or perhaps a constant. Constants and variables.

In addition, your artillery detachment have plenty of radios on-hand, so being able to keep in contact should not be an issue. Sharpshooters are present in both forces, but they will be covering any discussions or negotiations that take place within their range.

>>23956900
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>>23957000
As yourself and Gunther approach the hill in question, moving atop it with Siegfried and your bodyguards in tow, the man simply smiles as both of you take your binoculars out to examine the city ahead of you.

You almost don't lift them as you catch sight of what looks like a city ripped out of a painting. The city itself is not impressive in scale or design, but instead in its contrasting antiquity and the seemingly fresh nature of it. It is certainly a city that is inhabited and active, but its technology and designs so outdated as to be almost laughable.

Almost.

You spot a half-dozen men in blue tabards around the front gate of the city (front relative to your forces, in actuality, the eastern gate). The gates themselves are currently open, but appear to be nothing more than massive pieces of wood, fifty feet high. The city is enclosed by stone walls, with a large gatehouse. The walls have a number of persons walking their length, all of them dressed in chainmail suits with blue tabards. The ones on the ground have swords and spears, but those atop the walls seem to have longbows and an assortment of crossbows. Outdated, for certain, but Gunther speaks up.

>>23957100

"The towers have big crossbows on them." He remarks, to which you change your perspective. Indeed, each tower seems to have a pair of ballistae situated within its interior, manned by chainmail-clad fellows as well.

You also spot a smattering of the robed persons, mostly concentrated around the gatehouse itself, their blue robes marking them plainly as they seem to be engaged in some form of discussion.

Siegfried speaks up, "They are not powerful-- I can tell, even from here." He informs you, "They do not have the same stature or presence of Magi Arthur or the others. They could prove problematic for the other troops, but I should be able to protect you for now, if that is the best they have to offer."

Unlikely, but you can hope. In the meantime, you dispatch Gunther's squads, the teams of men approaching under the cover of darkness as the sun settles and the defenders light torches. There's a number of farms laying on the outskirts of the town as well, the fields of which Gunther's men cut through in absolute darkness.

It takes two hours of waiting, waiting for detection, waiting for the city to dispatch riders, but eventually you hear Gunther's voice over the radio.

"Had to kill a couple sentries near the sewer gates. Seems they found my handiwork." He informs you bluntly, "Ditched the bodies in the sewer itself. They won't be a problem-- no alarms raised. We're moving out now through the sewers, we should be in position within the hour. The show's yours, sir." He tells you.

Thus, leaving you to initiate diplomacy... or war. In what fashion shall you announce your presence?

>>23957065
A semaphore is feasible for you to create, though if you desire a communications system, it's entirely possible to set up radio stations that simply record transmissions sent through them on reels of tape.

>>23957107
Decap strike if they dont know we are here. Otherwise negotiate for the return of their baron WHILE we decap strike.

>>23957107

I meant in the sense of sharing some outdated to us, but useful to them, technology or infrastructure with the local. Although setting up a telephone network and making sure we're the only ones who can do maintenance on it can be powerful...
>>23957228

"How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us."

>>23957107
Honestly, I say we introduce ourselves peaceably. I know we're trying to foster an 'implacable' reputation, but we should also try to foster one of reasonableness; if you don't fight us, then we won't have to kill you.

Also, the less fighting we do, the less potential resources we damage.

And now, I must sleep. I look forward to reading the after-action report.

>>23957107
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>>23957276
I like this one. There is no need for wasting ammo.

>>23957276
sounds good, maybe take us, siegfried, and a squad in a halftrack and approach the gate

>>23957276

So we're basically the Knights Inductor with swastikas? I'm OK with that.

>>23957296

Explain to whoever has been left in command of the city that the Baron saw fit to dictate terms (Just the fact that he's a child doesn't mean much in and of itself) and so we will now dictate ours.

>>23957296
is me and unfortunately my bed beckons me, I look forward to catching up on our glorious conquests when I arise

>>23957306
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>>23957228
You, Siegfried, and your escort detail board one of the transport trucks you came in on, riding out towards the city as you grab the radio handset for the vehicle's PA system.

Your voice echoes like the voice of God from those broadcasters, your ring translating your words.

"ATTENTION! PEOPLE OF REDDING!" Your voice booms out, the vehicle's engine rumbling as you span the distance, approaching the front gates. You see the mages atop the wall scramble into position as your vehicle trundles along, Siegfried putting one hand on the steel footlocker before him, the other resting on his iron-clad book.

"Good evening! I am Oberst Landa of the Third Reich! I am here to speak with those who help rule this city." You broadcast out. You know your men are taking aim even from afar, as evident by the fact that you catch a hint of movement along the treeline several kilometers back. Mortars being set up from afar, ready to turn the farmlands into a fiery abyss if the enemy should try to storm out.

You watch one of the guardsmen hurry back into the gatehouse, before a man clad in plate armor begins to march towards your vehicle. Your squad dismounts as Siegfried emerges behind you, having hurriedly slipped the bars of quartz into his chasuble, the pink stone blocks fitting together smoothly into the hand-sewn pockets.

>>23957474
The man in question almost looks like a knight, but his tabard bears a black gavel of some kind, held upright on the blue cloth. His armor appears to be made of some light blue metal instead of steel as you stare at it, Siegfried letting out a rather surprised note.

"I am Knight Commander Beregen-- Paladin of Iudex." He states simply, the man having a shield across his back and a sword sheathed at his hip.

"For what reason have you come to disturb the peace?"

"Are you the man in charge, Herr Beregen?" You ask, smiling faintly.

"I am in charge of the city's watch and paladin detachment, but that does not answer my question. If you are foreigners, then I will direct you further west, though the Baron and his men passed through here a short while ago." He states, "The city of Swordhenge is better suited to foreigners as yourself." He directs you, to which you simply smile and shake your head.

He pauses, about to speak, but you interrupt him. "No... I have spoken with the Baron." You remark, "In fact, he is currently my guest. I am here because of a... 'implacable' situation." You state. "Of sorts."

The Knight Commander gets a wary look on his features, and you can see the mages on the gatehouse shuffling about near the edge of the towers, clearly unaware of the range of your weapons.

>>23957478
"The Baron has attempted to attack us, in favor of the diplomacy I am attempting once more with you, Knight Commander." You tell him simply, "Because of that, I was forced to... defend myself and my peoples. The Baron is now a guest due to his actions." You state honestly. Or, at least, semi-honestly. "I am here to discuss with you two things: The terms of your surrender, and the terms by which the Baron will be released."

To his credit, the man doesn't react with confusion, instead looking between your vehicle, your attire, and the weaponry your men have in hand, as well as toward Siegfried. There's a slight glaze to his eyes, and Siegfried simply smiles at the man as his eyes glaze over somewhat.

"I sense no lies." The Knight Commander states plainly, looking perhaps even more disturbed. "You speak the truth-- and if you have truly routed the Baron's army, I suspect we will not fare much better." He remarks, "But I cannot be expected to simply surrender this city's garrison. I am bound by Iudex's Law and the Emperor's Mandate." He tells you honestly, though he seems perfectly open to conversation.

Putting you in a unique position once again. What do you say to persuade him, if anything?

>In addition, an IRC channel is active on irc.Sorcery.net at #fantasyland

>>23957485

"No man is above the law, but the law exists to serve men. We are not here to loot or massacre: think of the lives you can protect by leaving peacefully, not least that of the Baron - we will not bargain his life, he is quite safe and will remain so, but someone with the authority will have to formally request his release and that someone will have to be informed of the situation."

>>23957485
Ask if he likes / agrees with the current baron, it would be good to know his standing on his rule.
Also request free passage and maybe some trade agreements (Show the watch how to treat wounds more efficiently, how to make better medicine, some engineering innovations, fancy stuff that doesn't endanger us like showing them how to make gunpowder.)
Remember, our end objective for this scenario is making whats-his-name-because-I-forgot the new Baron.

Why are we trying to ransom Baron out? He will just run to the Emperor (or whatever is lower) and tell them what happened, of our capabilities and we will be facing full might of Empire before we are ready.
Do not release the baron, ffs!

>>23957485

"Ah! A man of conviction, a man of strong will and above all ideology! I respect that as we are too, men of strong ideology.
It is a shame that I do not know that Iudex's Laws nor Empreror's Mandate, but I can guess.
Baron's army was routed withing minutes with almost no losses on our side, like you said, if you fight, you will lose but worse of all, you will archive almost nothing. The men will die in vain and there will be civilian casualties as our weapons .... do not discriminate.
I am not asking you to go against your ideologies, but I am asking you to think of the people. Are you willing to sacrifice them just to satisfy your dogma?
I assure you, we will not treat anyone harshly after we take over, in fact, the people here will see prosperity and better quality of life, I suspect"

>>23957655

We should actually ask what it is. Maybe there is ideological compatibility.

>>23957485
Release the Baron? He was supposed to be our test to see if we can indoctrinate these people, and if we can make them contribute to us.

He's probably had more education than any of the saps of this village, so he's probably our best source of information on the Empire. Don't release him. Mold him, and make him one of us.

>>23957655
> I suspect
No, "I vow".

>>23957732

Point, I derped.

But we should ask what law this guy is bound to... and point out that it can't possibly require a one sided battle, which is what he'll get.

Also, they're totally preparing some magical sniping.

An idea I had that I think we should do.
We should upgrade all of our uniform to resist arrows. The soldiers in WWII didn't really have any armor because it was hard to make any useful armor against fire-arms and then equip all of the soldiers. But here, we can easily protect our troops with minor modifications, which will protect all vital areas from arrows.

I think even WWII arrows could easily protect against longbow shots.

>>23957732

Did we hand him over to political officers already? If not, we should.

>>23957759

Also, we must ask Siegfried to fashion protective charms against magical attacks. He really saved our asses during the fight with Baron's army.

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>>23957732
I agree.

Although I'd like an anon's suggesting early of breaking and molding him into a general of auxilliary or a puppet baron, such a thing won't probably happen for years.

Maybe, we can make him the leader of a local Hitler Jugend group for starters, after a few months of hard labor, strict discipline, and indoctrination. Make him work hard, but praise him when he suceeds, don't make him feel like a slave but a hard working youth. Show him the glories and achievements of the Reich, from newsreels, stories, and history lessons. Make him feel German.

But after all that grueling work and indoctrination Reich, can you imagine how he'd feel to be appointed leader of our local Hitler Youth by the Fuhrer himself (whom he'll treat like a god at that point)?

>>23957770
We did, last thread they were waiting near his infirmary.
I believe after something like the carnage and brutality he witnessed yesterday, he's now very quiet and withdrawn. Now is the perfect time to indoctrinate; The iron is hot and soft, now is the time hammer in our ideology.

>>23957779

That is a cunning plan.

>>23957779
Oh yeah, if we're going to assimilate anyone in this place it's the impressionable youth.

Building a school and finding and educating the brightest minds here into loyal Hitler Youth and future puppet leaders is perfect. The Babylonian's did it, as did the Romans.

Does anyone know how our little lightning rod test worked out with Siegfried? We should get on with that.

>>23957824

Either way, on the matter at hand - let's try to reason with this guy. He seems sane.

"If your honor compels you to make a stand, I ask that you allow the populace to hide until it's over."

Say that loudly, maybe.

>>23957843
>I ask that you allow the populace to hide until it's over.

This one actually depends on us and is a bad thing to do. If we are fighting, we are fighting with maximum efficiency.


Also, if he still seems unconvinced, should we tell him that our men are already waiting to blow up strategically important locations as we are speaking? We only need to order.

>>23957862
>This one actually depends on us and is a bad thing to do. If we are fighting, we are fighting with maximum efficiency.

The point is for the good citizens of this medieval hovel to hear that we said that.

>>23957880
I'm sure they are doing this already.

I am also in favour of reasonable negotiations with the Knight-Commander.
I would suggest asking if he wished to confer with the towns leadership, though that would just give them time to entrench and make Gunthers job a little harder...

>>23957862
Or have the artilery fire a barrage several hundred meters in front of the town if he proves to be highly stubborn.
"Struggling is futile. We prefer not to fight you, but this town will belong to us at the end of this day, with or without a battle. There is no reason to bring suffering over your people, and we will treat them with honor if you decide not to force us to fight."

>>23957924
Leadership does not matter. The Paladin controls all of the defenders in this town except, perhaps, the mages. If tells them to stand down, no other leader can do anything without anyone to protect him.
So no, lets not waste time.

>>23957805
IRL the germans did it with the Ukrainians.

>>23957937
I like the idea of impressing them with a display of artillery fire. Say that we don't want to bring harm to the town or her people (we are civilized, after all) but hint that we can still flatten it completely if we so desire.

>>23957655
>>23957843
>>23957862
>>23957924
>>23957937
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>>23958179

The thred is stagnating, so I'm proposing a complete plan we can vote on:

"Ah! A man of conviction, a man of strong will and above all ideology! I respect that as we are too, men of strong ideology.
It is a shame that I do not know that Iudex's Laws nor Empreror's Mandate, but I can guess.
The Baron's army was routed withing minutes with almost no losses on our side, like you said, if you fight, you will lose but worse of all, you will archive almost nothing. The men will die in vain and there will be civilian casualties as our weapons .... do not discriminate.
I am not asking you to go against your ideologies, but I am asking you to think of the people. Are you willing to sacrifice them just to satisfy your dogma?
I assure you, we will not treat anyone harshly after we take over, in fact, the people here will see prosperity and better quality of life, I vow"

If he proves stubborn fire a barrage several hundred meters in front of the town as a warning and demonstration, but make sure that it won't be seen as an attack.
"Trying to resist the Reich is futile. We would prefer not to fight you, but this town will belong to us at the end of this day, with or without a battle. There is no reason to bring suffering over your people, and we will treat them with honor if you decide not to force us to fight."

If he still does not give up, we will tell him to have the population hide in their basements and express our deep regret over being forced to fight. Then let him retreat into the town before we start our assault.

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I really hope we don't have to fight them.
If we're lucky, they didn't exactly like the baron, and we can be greeted as liberators like in the baltics. Do you think we should parade in town if that happens?

Play some nice music on the loudspeakers like >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky-zdHMNFNM
while marching in the colors and flags of our glorious Reich.

>>23958202
This town? Unlikely but it's possible. However, if improve the life for these people, and we will by bringing them into German society, word of mouth could spread in our favor, and other towns could very well greet us like liberators.

>>23958201
Sounds good.

>>23958201
This I like

>>23958201
This is good. But I don't think whatever these people call a basement will protect them from our artillery fire. Maybe show them the logic of evacuating their civilians.

Actually, do we want collateral damage? The townsmen won't take fondly to their town getting blown up. Didn't we get some neurotoxin shells last thread? Blow them upwind, and then gas the soldiers with no collateral damage.

But overall, yeah let's avoid hostilities.

>>23958302
>civilians will be in danger if we use artillery
>lets use neurotoxin instead!

SHEEEEEIT
NIGGA

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT

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>>23958302

> flood the place with deadly neurotoxin
> but let's avoid hostilities

>>23958302
We decided to wait with the chemical weapons. I'll have to make sure we'll take them next time as a defense against a large Imperial army. With them, 100000 are no problem

>>23958331
>>23958336

He wrote that the civilians should be evacuated first, but I doubt that this will be done by medieval folks.

>>23958344

I grok that, it just sounds funny the way he put it.

>>23958201

Or instead appeal to this Paladin's chivalry and his oath. We'll not make a mess of this town, ask his garrison to meet us in the field. It might even get support from our Wher troops taught to fight in a fluid environment.
In any case lets not make the town a wreck

>>23958361

That sounds good. Plus it'll dispel any notion that we are bound to our defensive positions.

>>23958361
They are already at a disadvantage. Maybe if they try to do a symbolic last stand, but after seeing the artillery he will know that this is suicide.

>>23958383
>>23958380

Well yer, I suggested that with the intention to try to talk him down first. I keep saying it, but if there isn't any reason to waste ammo and our resources then by all means I believe its the best course of action.
But I digress Major. I'm in favour of talk first, ask for field battle later

How about we don't artillery their town at all, just use it as a show of force.

In a town, an encoutner between an armored knight and a man with a submachine gun will always go one way. Just send in our troops and sweep the town clean, if we're lucky we might get some of them to surrender.

>>23958452

There's also that asking for a field battle is what these people are probably used to.

Right now we still have the advantage of tank/machinegun shock, which will go away eventually; let's use it by showing ourselves to be honorable fighters, since it costs us nothing.

>>23958463

the problem with that is that our opponents are melee troops and archers, since it will be urban combat, we won't have the distance to out-range them, and their swordsmen could ambush our forces from within houses and shops or around corners. I would prefer the field battle option as it allows us to utilize our superior range and power than urban combat would.

>>23958463
If we invade the town, the greeted as liberators thing >>23958202 goes out the roof.

But yeah, I think what we should do is this. Wait for the men to return to their town. Then load our troops in halftracks and drive up to the wall, use sniper from afar and machine guns on the halftracks to mow down the archers on the walls.

When the archers are all dead, blow up the gate with a well placed tank shot. As the men scramble out the gate to defend, mow them down with fire to, then sweep in with guns to clean out any left who wish to fight.

>>23958463
I'd use artillery against the towers , but not inside the town.

>>23958490
>>23958508

I wouldn't accept a field battle if attacked inside a town with an inferior force, but since paladins are usually lawful stupid let's try

>>23958508
Then, there's no real guarantee that the streets of the city would be wide enough for our vehicles to come in and give our men fire support.

>>23958508
Medieval armies rarely fought house to house style like in the modern era.
They defended the walls to the last man. Besides, there are no perfect battles, but three or four casualties are already reasonable losses. Just send in halftracks to mow down any heavy resistance.

>>23958517
this makes sense, their bows just deflect of our armor as we eliminate the archers. Then it's only melée leftz

>>23958517

It is unlikely we are going to be met as "liberators". What is with this wishful thinking?

>>23958543
When the town is surrendered to us and we bring them food, medical care, education and infrastructure we will be seen as liberators. Not so if we mow every resistance down first. Then, they may try to sabotage our efforts and harm our long-term goals.

>>23958563
Yes, but it seems that some think we will be "liberators" RIGHT NOW.

Usually, common folk wouldn't care about the change of ownership unless the quality of life plummets.

Also, this is a town of 15000 people not a tiny village. Bringing medical care would deplete our medical supplies and personnel very fast.

>>23958563
>we will be seen as liberators
You need to look up that word.

>>23958597
Well, we could steal all the alcohol and get drunk. We will be seen as libators

>>23958595
We might be able to use the town's resources to make more, maybe even make new, better/boost the effectiveness of our own medicine by mixing in plants that are unavailable back on Earth

I'm growing tired of debating this for two and a half hours despite consent over our approach. Please let us proceed with the following plan:

"Ah! A man of conviction, a man of strong will and above all ideology! I respect that as we are too, men of strong ideology.
It is a shame that I do not know that Iudex's Laws nor Empreror's Mandate, but I can guess.
The Baron's army was routed withing minutes with almost no losses on our side, like you said, if you fight, you will lose but worse of all, you will archive almost nothing. The men will die in vain and there will be civilian casualties as our weapons .... do not discriminate.
I am not asking you to go against your ideologies, but I am asking you to think of the people. Are you willing to sacrifice them just to satisfy your dogma?
I assure you, we will not treat anyone harshly after we take over, in fact, the people here will see prosperity and better quality of life, I vow"

If he proves stubborn fire a barrage several hundred meters in front of the town as a warning and demonstration, but make sure that it won't be seen as an attack.
"Trying to resist the Reich is futile. We would prefer not to fight you, but this town will belong to us at the end of this day, with or without a battle. There is no reason to bring suffering over your people, and we will treat them with honor if you decide not to force us to fight."

If he does not give up, we ask for a field battle to protect the townsfolk, or challenge him to a duel resolving the combat instead.

If nothing of this works, blow the towers and the gate up and invade the town with minimal damage.

>>23958701
>I'm growing tired of debating this for two and a half hours despite consent over our approach.

we're just waiting for OP
Anyone on the IRC? Is he still around?

>>23958701
Well I second your approach. Just waiting on Herr OP now.

If this works poor Gunther will be so disappointed. I don't doubt he'll have his chance at Swordhenge though.

So, what kind of Improvements do we want to give to Redding initially? Will we use is as a munitions plant mayhap? or convert it into a self contained prison camp? Or even just as a place to conduct negotiations and house dignitaries & Party members who could eventually conduct an inspection of our conquest and facilities...

>>23958778
They must know of material deposits nearby or maybe even have mines already. We could expand on that. Hopefully we'll find all that we need to produce ammunition so we can build everything we need for that.
We'll have excess labor, so we will be able to build stuff much faster. Before we try to upgrade the town itself, we should first see what they lack the most.

>>23958778
Should we stop and expand on Redding now, or move quickly and sieze Swordhenge/Commando rescue Eric?

For our next complement of reinforcements I advise we get all the Infantry we can, we need to garrison these places and keep an eye on our growing labour force.

>>23958898

Blitzkrieg!

>>23958898
>Commando rescue Eric

This is another thing.
What's with the obsession of rescuing Eric? He's just in prison, not like he is going to die soon, and even then, what do we care about him?

>>23958911

We haven't even identified their capital though.

>>23958912
I kind of see your point.

Say, this Paladin guy sounds like he'd be the honour-bound type. Should we let him remain nominally in power granted that he swears some sort of oath? Also Nazi Flags everywhere.

>>23958912
Well for one he seems like a pretty cool guy that got backstabbed for being the messenger, and second we could use him as the new baron with us pulling the strings thus making the expansion of our glorious Reich easier

>>23958979
I see no problem with this, if he is willing to, what I doubt. I mean, he already swore an oath of allegiance to the Empire and his codex.

AHA!
I found you, sneaky hidey thread of glorious awesomeness.

I really ought to talk to Gerald about some organization or email lists to avoid missing things like this. Either way!
>>23958701
This gets my vote. Very reasonable, very good. Also fits into the Landa way, Schweer likes.
Tho a duel should be avoided. really, since we would be chopped to pieces unless we resort to cheating (guns). Dying is bad for morale.

>>23958979
I cannot see why not. If he proves honourable and capable, it should also help since he is a respectible man. And if he sees that we do indeed improve the lives of the common men and women. He might even side with us fully, rather then just being the guy who keeps tabs on us.

>>23959023
>use him as the new baron with us pulling the strings thus making the expansion of our glorious Reich easier

This is retarded. Do you not know how monarchy works? There is a reason why the baron of these lands is a 10 year old brat and not someone who is actually competent. You do not just remove noble-born leaders and put whoever the fuck you want in charge.
Besides, Eric made it quite clear that his allegiance lies with the Empire.

>>23959065
I'm not too sure about it. Redding should fall directly under our control, maybe in the future if we come to dominate large tracts of this Empire that would be difficult to police, we might establish a Vichy Empire as a vassal state, but for now we should annex the places we sieze for the Riech direct control.

>>23959065
Aye fella. But if we put it like this "we made a promise to treat everyone honourable, to improve the lifes of the men and generally be good rulers. It is only reasonable that you should stay so you know our promises are kept. Free to leave at any point, all that jazz"

>>23959100
>Tho a duel should be avoided. really, since we would be chopped to pieces unless we resort to cheating (guns). Dying is bad for morale.

What? Duels? Who suggested that?
No, certainly no duels! It is fucking retarded to ask a duel to resolve a battle that we will certainly win.
Not only that, but Paladin clearly has magically enchanted equipment.

>>23959108
I doubt he's all too happy given how he's been treated. But really, we don't have much of a use for him even if we get his full loyalty.

If we do earn his trust (and rescuing his arse will do exactly that) I think he'd make a great public face to the common people of the Empire. Let's forget cozzying up to the monarchy, we should send them by the way of the Kaiser.

>>23959141

Second this. We are building an efficient industrial meritocracy (If you are human. Untermenschen will be allowed to fade into the sunset in due course).

>>23959116
I disagree with having ANYONE free to leave. So far the Empire at large is completely unaware of our actions. The most they'd know would be whatever the kid Baron passed on to someone else, and that'd likely just describe us as vagrants with cool toys. I think we should keep our expansion under wraps for as long as possible.

>>23959132
>If he does not give up, we ask for a field battle to protect the townsfolk, or challenge him to a duel resolving the combat instead.

challenge him to a duel resolving the combat instead.

Not entirely sure who mate. but it must have snuk into his post by some clever infiltrator, or bolshevik secretary. You wouldn't mind if we took a look into the history of your staff,

would you, herr Major?

>>23959163
This.

We'll treat them right though.

>>23958898
>Growing labour force
Now now, musnt have that mentality. "Future citizens of te Reich" is better.

As for the town itself, we should begin germanization. Lots and lots of flags and banners for a start. We should get the propaganda boys to make some simple posters in their language.

>>23959159
So how does this work on the Juden front? I mean, as vile as that race is they've still gotta be above orcs, right?

>>23959182

Hasn't been an issue yet.

"Racism was not a problem on the Discworld, because - what with trolls and dwarfs and so on - speciesism was more interesting. Black and white lived in perfect harmony and ganged up on green."

>>23959180
>Future citizens of the Reich

Implying a loyal citizen of the Third Reich wouldn't sweat and toil for the our glorious nation.

>>23959159
Human and elves. They'd be Aryan.

Dwarves would be honorary Aryans by merit of their skills, but be prevented from cross breeding with elves and humans.

>>23959202
Back home it is though, just wondering.

>>23959163
I'm betting that he will, infact, not leave.
Since his honour is here, protecting these people of their empire, he will want to see how we treat them all, what happens, what we do to the churches etc etc.
He will want to see what happens, so he can report to his superiors if nothing else...

And he will see, we will show him civilization, medication, we will help, aid and support.
We will be better rulers then the baron and the nobles ever was.

They will find out either way, why not let them find out from a man who is impressed and has nice things to say about us rather then the survivor of a failed frontal charge.

One shows us to be monsters, the others as angels...

>>23959208

I say we take the Roman route. Service guarantees citizenship, would you like to know more?

>>23959211
We don't know what kind of elves there are. I think Dark Elves are going to be pretty low on the scale.

>>23959224

so will we be forming a militia of the locals equipping them with the weapons of their tech level as opposed to making them conscripts? or did you mean manual labour over military service?

>>23959222
He hasn't surrendered yet, and even so he might try to slip away and warn the rest of the Empire. I'm not saying we should restrict him from leaving ever, but I reckon we should 'request' he remains and is assured of our goodwill until the element of surprise has been lost. And even then, we might not want to let him go.

>>23959224
I agree, but I don't know if even we have the authority to actually do that (though we can still promise it).

>>23959253

That depends on what we need at any given time, really. I'd hold off giving modern tech to anyone, but maybe cannons and muzzleloaders can be arranged.

>>23959224

Evetually we'll be successful enough that a career politician will take our post. Then we can decide whether to revolt or not, really... Either way, whoever comes in after us will have an incentive to keep the status quo as we have made it.

>>23959227
As they should. If the blond elves report that they've been doing some freaky deaky shit or pillaging of convoys, then yeah they're untermenschen.

At best, they can be auxilliary, but denyied the right to breed with Aryans.

>>23959253
Absolutely no weapons of our tech level. Even in emergencies I think breaking out the guns for the militia would be a bad idea.

All it would take is for one scientist/gnome/dwarf fella to get their hands on our weaponry and suddenly their tech level will jump forward a century or two. We can probably handle primitive rifles, but I'd rather not.

FAR in the future we might send some of the most promising to Germany on a sort of exchange I guess.

>>23959211
if we go by german folklore dwarves would be a kind of elf

>>23959297

I wouldn't be against sharing a few things though. Girandoni air rifles, wired telegraph (but not radio).

>>23959253
Service by labour or military garauntee's citizenship to all sentient beings, but newborn Aryan children are automatically granted citizenship.

Aryans will be educated till they are competent to handle simple rifles, or the most astute ones will be vehicle drivers, engineers or skilled labor.

nichtmenschlichen and untermenschen can work for (a lower form of) citizenship, with only the best of the best being honorary Aryan, but are barred from crossbreeding

>>23959297
and what is far, far, worse:
it would remove the mystery, the wonder and the fear our our weapons.

Right now its some kind of horrifying magic...
I'd rather not have it be demoted to "weird foreign crossbow but better"

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>>23959132
>>23959176
I thought of it as in the pic. We're not suicidal paladins, after all.

>>23959286
pretty sure dark elves would be more in line with are views

>>23959339
Then we are dishonourable, cheating, wretches that disregard what is most likely a near sacred ritual for these people.
Bad pr, very very bad

>>23959339
The Paladin certainly has magic armor and if we don't put him down in one shot and give him a chance to get into melee range, we are fucked.
We shouldn't take unnecessary risks.

>>23959328

Sounds good to me.

>>23959354

Except the whole matriarchy and spider-god worship.

>>23959328
Herr Anon.
I can dig it.

>>23959364
Assuming DND

Who knows, they might just as well be based upon the Druchii. (which would make them far more dangerous)

or some other nasty kind of buggers. or just something Oberst Gerald just made up

>>23959328
what about crossbreeding them to make stronger solders

>>23959356
>>23959355
You're right. We should let him return into the town and conquer it normally, but with minimal destruction, if he does neither surrender nor accept a field battle.

captcha: icyOnes peace
I see once peace. The Endsieg will come!

>>23959328
I agree with this policy, except only newborn Aryans with no ties to the empire should be given rifles.

No tech to anyone not born and raised a loyal German.

>>23959385
You sick motherfucker. Report to the Political Kommandant at once!

>>23959385

There's a whole medical corps back home who will be eager to do science to it.

>>23959394

Sounds sensible -- we can pull it off.

One thing is, if there is no need for Gunther's services, he should still get his pick of the wine cellars, as thanks for having slogged through shit.

>>23959398

Giving rifles = ok
Giving the knowledge to make modern ammo = not ok

>>23959385
to improve auxiliaries, that I agree with.
Making them the best we can, despite the inferior material is definitely a good and in character idea.

Mixing them with the pure Aryan race(s)? nein nein nein!
That is just wrong, it will do nothing but pollute, possible permanently, bloodlines. Weakening the race as a whole for a minor gain.

Besides, guns dont need you to be a hulking brute.

>>23959407
>One thing is, if there is no need for Gunther's services, he should still get his pick of the wine cellars, as thanks for having slogged through shit.

yes, I agree

>Giving rifles = ok
>Giving the knowledge to make modern ammo = not ok

reverse-engineering them wouldn't be as hard as you think, especially WWII era weapons.

>>23959421

True, but we must accept that a tech embargo is at the end of the day unenforceable and plan for that.

In that sense, a good Volkswaffen would be the Girandoni air rifle, or something like it: it works very differently than our weapons, it's about 150 years behind them technologically, and it's still better than what the primitive screwheads have. And it can be manufactured locally.

>>23959407
It's easy. We'll split the production. One town will have a barrel manufacture. Another one produces magazines and so on. Imported German workers will produce the recievers and finish the weapons. Some parts of the ammo can be produced by the locals, but will be watched strictly, as all superior technology or parts thereof.

>>23959459
Agreed.

>>23959471

Plus, it implies that we have much-better pneumatic weapons and misdirects reverse engineering attempts.

>>23959459
>>23959471
>>23959491

With our constant supply and reinforcements from the Fatherland I don't think this will be necessary for a long time. Likely years.

We should focus the native populace on getting raw goods back to Germany.

>>23959519

The resource to be taken from this land is obviously magic items more than raw materials. Just as our technology gives us incredible shock and awe potential here, magic will give us the same there.

>>23959491
We should consider marking the guns the militia is allowed to have, and all others are to be returned to the nearest Reich armory immediately, or else those nice Totenkopf guys will have a little talk with you.

>>23959519
This depends on whether we're able to open the gate for a long time or not. Maybe we should consider requesting more Thule Society members next time.

>>23959546

Imagine what even the equivalent of Cure Light Wounds or Create Food could do for an army on the march, why, we might even be able to conquer Russia in winter!

>>23959549
No. It has been said time and time again.
No advanced tech to militia or axillary forces.
No, bad major!

It gives us very little and risks a very great deal
Those Air rifles (after a short google) could be the very max I'm wiling to offer, since they are not even near proper weapons in terms of how or why they function. They also give a very nice distinction "those guys are Aux, those guys are proper germans"

>>23959421
>reverse engineering rifles
>Medieval-era technology base

Hahaha

They wouldn't have the first fucking clue how to make a rifled or even smoothbore barrel, let alone how to make gunpowder or oxidized gunpowder and a steel barrel able to handle the pressure.

That doesn't even get into the mechanics of the bolt action, just making a steel spring is something that might prove incredibly difficult for medieval society craftsmen.

And even if these people DID figure out how to make near-modern rifles. They are a pre-industrial society. They have NO industrial base, craftsmen are still a thing. Weapons are made by individuals, they're not stamped out in a factory.

On top of that, they lack the kind of farming and food growing techniques of the modern times. Refridgeration technologies, preservatives, pesticides, oil, mechanized production - All of which means that the 1940 industrial German society is guaranteed a larger, stronger and more intelligent population than this medieval society in this fantasy world.

There's more to a technology than just the principle behind how it works. The idea of using energy to push an object to a lethal speed isn't lost on medieval society, but they simply do not have the infrastructure, knowledge and resources to actually make or even compete on equal terms with a modern day society in any capacity whatsoever.

The -only- thing the medieval society in this case has over the industrial society, is magic. Which is unfortunately a very capricious literary tool that is extremely easy to misuse. There's not much to stop someone from going 'magic done it' to explain anything away.

Magic is the only real threat in this story quest. Nothing else is even close to threatening an industrial society. Magic however ... - because it is not restricted by any sort of rules, can be used by the author to do anything.

Very dangerous literary tool. Hard to use right while maintaining internal consistency within the story being told.

>>23959519
as not so much raw good as oil.

>>23959385
>>23959413
The only ones in the realm to be considered true Aryan are a blond haired, blue eyed humans and elves. Elves are intelligent, beautiful, immortals. The standards of the übermensch.

All else cannot breed with them or Aryans of earth.

However, crossbreeding among auxilliarys should be looked into. I for one will be glad to see a return of a Prussian Giants Grenadiers corps.

>>23959593

Actually you know what we could dole out to favored vassals? Modern fertilizer. Just that would change this world in a year -- or at least the parts that we want to change.

>>23959546

This assumes that Magic works back home as it does here. In Germany, the Platinum was just Platinum, not Magic Battery Platinum...

>>23959591
I meant in case they somehow get their hands onto one. I would never give the people here modern guns, but maybe someone will find one on a dead soldier. That's what the post was about.

>>23959610

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superphosphate We're Germans, setting up a plant to produce a simple chemical is something that we can do blindolded. And to a feudal society this would truly be magic for the masses - sprinkle some on your fields (after reciting a totally-not-a-prayer statement of thanks to Der Fuhrer) and your yields will triplicate.


>>23959631

That's worth finding out ASAP, no? Get some bland-ish magic items that do something clearly physically impossible, and send them to the Fatherland for experimentation. Let them see early returns!

>>23959634

That's why controlling ammo fabrication is important.

>>23959602
Dr. Klein and I would be happy to carry out anatomical and eugenic experiments among the untermenschen. Just provide us a steady flow of test subjects.

>>23959634
Goodie, then we are in agreement.
Apologies for the misunderstanding Herr Major

>>23959634

That's why I am pushing for manufacturing Windbuchsen. It's a technological dead end that is still better than what they have.

>>23959649
Indeed. Establishing economic and cultural dominance over the populace should be one of our primary goals in this land. They should willingly submit themselves as vassals to our state and the beneficent Führer above all else.

>>23959656
Just remember to share with herr Siegfried mein good doktor. you know how he loves to play with der untermenchen.

>>23959610
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process

Pre-industrial society is not going to be able to recreate this process without the infrastructure and knowledge in place to produce steel that can withstand high pressures.

Devices could be supplied, but it'd be like magic to the people. Creating fertilizer out of natural gas and air.

>>23959723

And -- this is crucial -- it would be more than either the nobility or the magi have done for the people, ever.

By next harvest we could have a line at the door of people wanting to swear fealty to the Reich.

Kind herr, could you make a pastebin of the history of this quest? It seems quite extensive and the civilization thread on /pol/ manages to keep people up to speed via pastebin.

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>>23959563

Plus, it looks like that while magic items cannot be made back home, they can be recharged electrically.

Again, just something like Cure Light Wounds would make a fighting force unstoppable if deployed massively.

>>23959758
What exactly do you mean by history?
An extended summary of sorts?

>>23959758
>>23959780

http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=TheFourthEmpire.TheFourthEmpire is open for login-less editing.

>>23959780
>>23959793
well, something like this
http://pastebin.com/htDJ8Jt3
perhaps? It's one of the older pastebins, but I suppose a retelling instead of copy of the history is enough.

>>23959853

If it is expedient to use the wiki, I'm generally OK with it.

Quick post because I'm off to lunch.

We should build influence with some of our people. We haven't spent much time talking and developing relationships.

On that note, as long as Seigfried doesn't get any ideas of global domination, we should see if we could learn magic alongside him. Arthur seemed to think that we and anyone else intelligent would have a high chance of being magically capable.

>>23959947

We'll have to set up a X-Com style psionic screening program.

http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=TheFourthEmpire Started and unlocked, feel free to edit. Slightly easier than a pastebin I think.

Thread archived here
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23955324/

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>>23959947
Do you mean the people here?
>>23959180
Banners, flags, posters, and possibly introducing newsreels with a translator.

Use this place as a test for when we assimilate their capital to look like
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>>23957596
Eric Mottle was the one discussed as being made the new Baron, but you are unaware of if he actually is in the dungeons at Swordhenge or not.

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>>23958201
You speak up.

"Ah! A man of conviction, a man of strong will and above all ideology! I respect that as we are too, men of strong ideology. It is a shame that I do not know that Iudex's Laws nor Empreror's Mandate, but I can guess."

He seems resilient to your flattery, but he does quirk an eyebrow.

"How do you not know the Emperor's Mandate or the Laws of Iudex?" He asks, "... Ah. Foreigners. Of course. I assume the Baron attempted a more literal translation of the Mandate on you?" He pauses, "Rather, that he attempted to conquer you by force of arms?"

"Correct." You inform him, "And the Baron's army was routed withing minutes with almost no losses on our side. It's like you said; if you fight, you will lose, but worse of all, you will archive almost nothing."

The Knight Commander simply stares at you as you make this claim in candid fashion, the man clearly debating something.

"The men will die in vain and there will be civilian casualties as our weapons ... do not discriminate. I am not asking you to go against your ideologies, but I am asking you to think of the people. Are you willing to sacrifice them just to satisfy your dogma? I assure you, we will not treat anyone harshly after we take over, in fact, the people here will see prosperity and better quality of life, and this I vow."

>>23960126
He pauses in consideration, his thoughts clearly torn. "We have golems as well, you know." He remarks, staring at your vehicle, "And magic. What makes you so certain you could slay us easily?" He asked, "I am bound to honor the laws of those who rule. While there are passages of Iudex's Laws regarding changes in rulership, the Emperor's Mandate holds me to put up resistance. A reasonable resistance." He remarks.

You pause, thinking, before looking to Siegfried.
"A demonstration?" You ask.
"A demonstration." He nods.

You pause only to look to the Knight Commander, putting your hands on your ears, gloved fingers plugging them.

"You may wish to cover your ears. Set up a fire mission six hundred meters east of my position, avoid all civilian structures. HE rounds and flare shells ought to do it! And tell Gunther it's a demonstration!" You announce for your radioman.

The Knight Commander pauses at your instructions, but hesitantly raises his mailed hands to cover his ears.

>>23960144
Which is wise of him, because the next thirty seconds are filled with such fire and noise that you can feel it in your chest. Turning aside slightly to view the fields, you watch as one of the fields of wheat becomes an instant inferno that simultaneously rages and smothers itself out. The leFH 18s fire almost simultaneously with the mortars, a one-minute barrage that sends over a dozen shells smashing into the ground with such whistling intensity that all you see are massive mushroom clouds of dirt, pockmarked by expanding clouds of flame and dust that the mortars produce. The continuous stream of ordinance lights the wheat fields on fire, several flare rounds shooting from the mortars to illuminate the night sky. Hundreds of eyes are allowed to watch the hell you open up before the Knight Commander's eyes, eyes that go the size of saucer plates as he gapes open-mouthed at the flames your weaponry produce. When the bombardment is over, he's not even covering his ears, staring with a gaping mouth.

"Trying to resist the Reich is futile. We would prefer not to fight you, but this town will belong to us at the end of this day, with or without a battle. There is no reason to bring suffering over your people, and we will treat them with honor if you decide not to force us to fight." You state, your ears ringing slightly, but you can hear him clearly.

"I..." He pauses, "... We will be unable to hold." He remarks bluntly, "I will ask you to respect the abodes of the nobility, but I shall order the Watch to stand down. The nobles in the Northern District, near the keep, may attempt to resist with their own forces. Please do not hurt them." He tells you quietly, "I also ask that you respect the Guildhouses and Temples. They are places of learning and divinity, and I would prefer them to remain unharmed. Can you agree to such terms?"

>>23960153
These are excellent terms, I don't see anything we wouldn't agree with.

However, we should make the best of our terms as well.

>>23960153

We have no interest in damaging the city.

Anyone who chooses to resist will asked to surrender once, then see their choice honored for the rest of their very brief life.

We should offer the Knight Commander the choice to stay or leave, as well.

>>23960153

"Splendid! I see you are a reasonable man.... unlike the baron. You terms are more than acceptable, we will not harm anything or anyone within the city unless we are provoked. We'd like to keep the city and its people whole."

>>23960177
>>23960124
Make sure there is an understanding that the town is now a part of the Reich, not the empire, and allow us to place the flags and banners and such.

>>23960243

And now let's have a proper goosestep march into the city!

Should we tell Gunther to head to the mansions in the northern district and have fun before the Anschluss is formalized?

>>23960250
Also, the watch should understand that they now serve the Reich as well, but are still soldiers in arms.

Maybe hire a big Tavern and have our men and theirs get to know each other. Beer and ale brings men of all kinds together.

>>23960216
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He simply shakes his head at the mention of leaving, "I will not leave this city, but I will defend the Temple grounds to the death. I will not see the holy grounds of Iudex or any of the other gods defiled, nor the guildhouses and workshops, which are the territory of Kraeth. While your men are welcome to trod their grounds, my terms are only to have them respect property that belongs to the divine and not those of mortal men." He states, standing upright.

"If I must die to preserve the honor of Iudex's Laws, then I shall gladly die, even if it is a quick death that yields me no boons." He warns you, "As conquerors, I expect you to place flags of your conquest." He remarks plainly, "I simply ask that you do not defile the Temples with such adornments."

At mentioning the Watch, he nods, "The men are bound to uphold the law, whether it is the Baron's law or your own. They are familiar with the intricacies of politics and aristocratic warfare. So long as you uphold your words of greatness and improvement, they will enforce whatever laws you mandate, so long as they are just."

>>23960266
>And now let's have a proper goosestep march into the city!
>Should we tell Gunther to head to the mansions in the northern district and have fun before the Anschluss is formalized?

The fight isn't completely over yet, the nobles with the private force may put up resistance so no marches yet. We should inform Gunther and tell him about the potential dangers that those private gangs might pose and see if he can take them out or weaken them while we are advancing.
We haven't captured the city yet before we hold the temple.

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>>23960266
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>>23960124
Alright, get the loudspeakers and and flags.
I recommend Westerwald or Prussens Gloria

>>23960300
Alright, we will not touch the temples.

Put your hand forward for a handshake "This is a start of beautiful relation ship, Herr Knight Commander Beregen"

>>23960300
We should get a codex of their law system, see if there's anything that needs improving or if it's good as of yet.

>>23960308
Relax, when they see our military forces they won't have the stomach to fight.

Their nobles, they wouldn't have the guts in the first place.

>>23960153

We have no interest in damaging the city. We do, however, wish to know the status of a man we rescued and sent as an envoy, one Eric Motte, Man at Arms.

As well, we will begin construction of a garrison outside the city to support our occupation. If your forces have translation rings, they will be needed to assist the effort. For now, however, we will simply need to ensure the surrender is achieved with a small ceremony in the town square.


At that point, procede to bring up Hans and the mechanized units, and head into the square on a half-track.

Make sure Gunther and the men know of the victory, but to keep alert. ROE is not to fire unless fired upon, and to check targets.

Until we get the reinforcements, I'm thinking our garrison should be a half-track, mortar detachment, and 2 platoons of infantry, plus whatever work parties we need to set up a FOB near the town capable of hold roughly 2 companies of troops and vehicles.

>>23960300

"We have no quarrel with your gods. Our Fuhrer makes no claim to divinity, he is merely a great leader of men".

>>23960348

This.

>>23960369

Which is why parading in is good -- with safeties off, of course.

>>23960347
>This is a start of beautiful relation ship
Nein,
"This is a sign of understanding, and the begging of your towns ascent into the glory and blessings that all citizens of our Reich share and uphold.

>>23960369
well, still we should play on the safe side and have Gunther be ready.

He can have pick on wines and wenches later.

Rolled 67

>>23960308
this.
a display of power to the common man is always a good idea

>>23960327
I agree with this.

Also, ensure no one is running of with a message or anything. Let Gunther have his fun with the nobles if they resist.

>>23960370
>As well, we will begin construction of a garrison outside the city

....Outside?
There should be a keep in middle of the town. This is what we should occupy and where we should put our garrison.

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>>23960385
>We have no quarrel with your gods
Actually, in the long run, we could add them to our pantheon of Germanuic Gods in the planned state religion the Fuhrer has.

>>23960419

Sanitary reasons, security, and just in case of mobs. We'll want clear fire lanes and properly built buildings that aren't abominations before Engineering.

>>23960421
Let's leave such details for later discussion, shall we?

>>23960300
These terms are most acceptable. It pleases us greatly to deal with a reasonable and honorable man that respects human lives.

While we will not hesitate to take actions to assure the safety of our men, you will see no unprovoked actions from us.

Considering our ill-fated encounters with the nobility, do you think there is any representatives of these mentioned guilds, nobles and temples that we could reason with?

We find unnecessary casualties distasteful and would prefer to go into negotiations in a civil manner, rather than unleash the kind of arguments that you have just witnessed. We find it urgent to explain that we have no desire to defile hallowed ground or interrupt the order of business.

>>23960436
Keeps are, as a general rule, very much not abominations unto engineering.

That said, we should eventually construct a garrison outside the city walls, if for no reason other than to give us a place to put any infrastructure we put in Redding.

>>23960436
Before we started the march to Redding, during the planning period Both Funther and some other important dude said to take over the keep because that is the most important thing.
And really? Sanitary reasons and security? I mean, fuck, these are medieval people but they are not retarded. Those issues have already been resolved due to the fact that this is a fucking KEEP. It was designed to be secure and this city already has severs.

think with you head man, what kind of a takeover is this if we don't keep garrison inside?

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>>23960436
The sewer system should be a big priority too, no more throwing shit on the street.

Or at least we'll need to get some disinfectant trucks. How happy will the townspeople be when we tell the the plague won't come around this year, or we can cure it?

>>23960498

There is a sewer system, we just have to make sure it operates properly. Happily, we're good at that.

>>23960498
They HAVE a sewer. An actual drainage system, no less. This isn't just shit lying in ditches on the side of the road.

>>23960498
They already have sewers. This is how Gunther sneaked in.
Doesn't mean we cannot upgrade them of course.

>>23960496


It's good sense. We can define a perimeter easier, expand if necessary, and there'll be ample room for vehicles to move and be serviced. It'll also make for easier security as there won't be locals everywhere.

>>23960545
I see what you're saying but we still have to take over the keep.

>>23960558

Well obviously, but only a ceremonial sense. Besides, I'm betting that it's used as the quarters for the local militia.

If we REALLY need to, we can have the OC of the garrison do his day-to-day there, but we really want a separate garrison for all the reasons.

>>23960588
>>23960545
Mmmm. We'll determine the future status of the Keep in, well, the future. In the meantime, we can garrison the keep and initiate construction of a vehicle yard outside town.

>>23960588

So let's make our entrance. Do we have a loudspeaker truck? (I realize it's night, but everyone's probably wide awake after the fireworks display)

>>23960630
Do we have flares?
Could illuminate the whole thing with them

>>23960630

We should probably play either the National Anthem and/or Erika.