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How does /tg/ like their prosthetic hands?
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like my prosthetic dick.

There's no difference.
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>>23754440
You just made me imagine someone with horsecock dildos for arms. Damn my fetish.
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>>23754422

With hidden weapons.
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I can't find any decent pictures but this hand is beautiful.
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Strangling my enemies to death.
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>>23754462
You should look up pictures of amputees with split forearms.
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With rocket propelled punching capabilities.
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>>23754503
It's called a krukenberg procedure.
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>>23754532
WHY?
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>>23754540
It allows an amputee to use his forearm as a pincer.
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>>23754532

>Chaosmarauder.jpg
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>>23754526
How would you make that feasible?
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>>23754540
Looks like you could use them for very simple gripping? Because you don't have hands anymore, you see.
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>>23754422
With accurately sized pinkies.
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>>23754591
That is something that always annoys me about current functional prosthetics. It not like there aren't billions of functional hands to copy.
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>>23754422
Is...is this a thinly veiled fetish thread?

Or have I been just too long here?
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>>23754440
I'd imagine this'd make juggling easier, or at least more entertaining.
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>>23754642
Damn you, anon. Know you have me thinking.

The smooth, cool surface of the hand rubs me ever so tenderly. Without nerves in my hand, it feels like a completely different person. I increase the pace, the metallic surface heating up...
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>>23754591
Why on earth would you want normal pinkies when you can have freakish robotic slenderman hands?
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able to act as a chainsaw
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>>23754532
Hey there Crab Man.
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>>23754721
Hey Earl.
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>>23754614
>Forefinger longer than middle finger
Damn engineers spend too much time looking at robots and not enough time looking at anatomy.
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>>23754532

I want you to imagine a thumb war with this man.

No, seriously. Imagine it.
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>>23754683
And then you get it pinched in a joint. So no.
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>>23754745
NO! I DON'T WANNA! NO NO NO!
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>>23754683
"BLENDER MODE ENGAGED."

And then the screaming begins.
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>>23754745
Oh my. I'd get fucked sideways.
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>>23754772
The golden hand I posted earlier has a soft leather under side.
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>>23754683
Roll d20 to check if you've gained a new fetish.
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>>23754642
Not of a sexual nature. I happen to like finely crafted prosthetics as they are one of the few places that you see intricate detail and precise craftsmanship.
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>>23754492
I dunno, I heard hands of gold are always cold.
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Rolled 6

Fetish test.
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>>23754886
Something something woman
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>>23754997
I never liked GRRM's songs. I always thought they were clumsy.

Maybe that was because of the horrible way that Roy Dotrice sang them, though.
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>>23755050
I really like Roy Dotrice's voice but I wish he had a couple more voices, his Areo Hotah never sat well with me, and his lady voices make me giggle.
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Bumping with sixteenth century prosthetics.
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>>23755406
Fuck me, why do modern prosthetics look like hooks when sixteenth century stuff looks like Automail?
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>>23755462
Because the hook is functional cheap and durable.
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>>23755074
He's got an amazing voice -- he just made all the songs sound horrible.

And he swapped voices halfway through the series and I REALLY didn't appreciate new Tyrion or new Jamie.
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>>23755483

Yeah, but what about the person using it?

I don't know about you, but I'd find it easier to respect myself if I was rocking an Edward Elric original there rather than a functional but uncanny-valley-as-fuck modern prosthesis.

If you're not going to get your arm back, you might as well have a bitching robot arm instead of a device designed for compromise. It doesn't seem like much, but something like that could seriously and legitimately impact an amputee's quality of life.
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Götz von Berlichingen's Iron Hand.
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>>23755714
I completely agree. I do not think you understand the uncanny valley.
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>>23756028
>I do not think you understand the uncanny valley.

It'd be easier to have a conversation if you'd qualify that with why you're saying it.

The uncanny valley is shorthand for the human reflex to recognize something as human but not human enough, believed to be a survival trait allowing us to instinctually recognize corpses and thus danger.

The uncanny valley more commonly comes into play these days with poorly-done 3D animation or human prostheses that look human-like, but not human enough. The aforementioned hooks, for example, (very) roughly attempt to mirror the color and texture of a human arm while ending in a distinctly non-human device. This makes an average observer do a double-take when confronted with this piece of assistive technology, and gives them a dose of instinctual repulsion.

Simply put, it can't be healthy to an individual's mental state to have something with Disquiet mechanics from Promethean attached to their shoulder or elbow.
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>>23756164
I was thinking of the hand itself. The hook does not fall in the uncanny valley, but the arm as a whole does.
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>>23754422
I like my prosthetic hands like I like my women:
Artificial.
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>>23755462

Because the tech was nowhere near possible to make anything work and the people who had prosthetics were the nobility, who were obsessed with decoration, so they went the decorative route. As time went on we thought "Hey, might as well look into making these things functional" and went with starting-out shapes like hooks, and now that we can make hands and shit actually work, we returned to them.
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>>23756470
The technology to make functional prostheses was present. A mechanism like the Becker or Monestier hand use nothing beyond pulleys and springs.
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>>23754422
I like mine able to do simple tasks I take for granted
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>>23756370
>The hook does not fall in the uncanny valley, but the arm as a whole does.

That's more or less what I'm saying. The hook is the kicker that really drives the point home, though, the bit that stands out and announces "Hey, this shit ain't human."

Look at Adam Jensen from Deus Ex, and you can see what I'm talking about. He's clearly recognizable as human (without the Deus Specs, anyway), and you can plainly see which bits of him are mostly flesh, and which are entirely machine. His arms straddle the fence between human body aesthetic and machine, and it's made plain to an observer that they're artificial. Even while they mirror organic muscle structure, there are plenty of design choices that remind us they're mechanical in nature. They don't pretend at being something they're not, and as such they miss the uncanny valley almost entirely.

Now I'm not asking why we don't have cyborg arms instead of hooks, but what I AM asking is: Why we can't see principles of aesthetic design in prosthetic limb technology? In our era of 3D printers and downright cyberpunk technology, why can't we make an arm that uses its aesthetics to say something individualized about the person wearing it?

After all, an arm is a very personal thing, and you'd think options would exist beyond the standard "one size fits all."
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>>23756708
Is that a real artificial hand?
If so, that'd be pretty sweet to see on the street even if it's sad it's needed at all.
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>>23756709
Cost, complexity.
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>>23756709
>>23756743
I agree, you want a prosthetic that's more than one size fits all, you need the green.
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>>23756709
Again I agree that a good mechanical aesthetic would greatly improve the look of modern prostheses. I think that the limiting factors are the additional cost of customization and the fact that many amputees are, sadly, looking for a replacement hand not some futuristic contraption.
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>>23756743
>Cost, complexity.

3D printers, man. If they can print functioning guns, it won't be long before they can print rudimentary yet customizable functioning limbs.

Shit, there could even be an online limb-design market where you could purchase templates and either print them at home, or take them to a local 3D printshop to have them professionally printed out.

I'd say it's a decade or two away, at most.
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>>23756811
I just saw a video about a grad student who designed a hand that could be printed as a mirror copy of the opposite hand.
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>>23756812
I don't think it needs to be a futuristic contraption. It just needs to be aesthetic, like an iPhone is to one of those horrible 1980's original cell phones.

Not saying that you should have an arm that looks like an iPhone, of course - a different aesthetic would be needed, which is why I referenced Deus Ex. Obviously THAT design has its own problems, such as being a little too clunky and video-game-y for the mass market, yes, but it's still an example that limbs can be created with aesthetic design ideals in mind.
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Damnation, /tg/, why must you daily push me further from pharmacy to the carbon-fiber wonderland of biomedical?
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>>23756887
Cyberpunk, kid. Wave of the future.
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>>23756870
I would let a apple designer design my prosthetic.
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>>23756905
The iLimb, with WiFi and Bluetooth functionality.
You can connect it to your iTunes library, browse the internet, and make phone calls.
Now available at the low low price of all your money.
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>>23756905

And that's your personal choice and you're not wrong for making it.

Isn't it empowering to have a choice in the visual design of your body part?
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>>23756737
Real prosthetic, not sure if it's actually bionic.
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>>23756933
>not compatible with other technology of similar make

They're already disabled, now you want to cripple their prosthetic too?
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>>23756993

In all fairness, you'd think they'd be able to have iLimb Flash Player support out of the box.
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>>23756870
Even with current prosthetics a simple fairing makes them look so much better.
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Pic related is spoils of war from Poland in the royal armoury of Sweden.
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>>23756905
A piece of shit that looks fancy, breaks easily and is feeds its mother corp info about what you do? That requires you to go through complex and completely unneccesary program procedures just to get new software? And that's not getting into hardware upgrades...
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>>23756976
That is so cool.
I found some video of that man showing what he can do with it. He is right about it's a bit weird with the rotatable hand, but still, must be nice to have a mostly working hand again.
I also read that it has a limited number of movements programmed into it, but the fact that the programmers made rock and roll accessible is amazing.
I love the whole world.

>>23756993
Hey, I wasn't the one who wanted Apple designing my prosthetic limb. Besides, learn how to jailbreak, man.
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>>23757041
It's dated to around 1600.
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>>23757048
Designer produces the aesthetics of a product not the business model of the company.
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>>23757040
And it's so fashionable! Black and silver can go with so many outfits. I'm not even kidding.

>>23757048
"Hmm, every iLimb we've sold is used in a regular rhythmic motion at least twice a day. Maybe we should be sending the exercise ads...."
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Magitech w/ filaments that can snake out of them at the behest of the user and can burrow into stone and tear down walls

think an upgrade of this except instead of splitting apart the threads just slide out of the flesh perpendicular the palm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkyZGZRnQb4
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>>23757107
You could go a step further and have the filaments compose the "muscle" of the whole arm.
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>>23757040
Carbon fiber is best look.
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>>23757103
>I'm sorry sir could you please repeat your problem... No we do not cover water damage... Yes that falls under water damage in so far as your warranty is concerned.
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>>23757040
Yep.

If I ever lose a limb and have to get a prosthetic, I don't want it to be a flesh colored load of crap.
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>>23757176
What about a fine hardwood?
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>>23757196
>You did WHAT!? Ma'am, I'm afraid that putting your entire fist up... Look, I KNOW that it's something you normally do, but you have a delicate piece of electronics now and.... Ma'am. Ma'am, I'm going to refer you to the repair and replacement department. Maybe next time you'll consider the insurance and the water-proof coating.
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>>23756816
The functioning "gun" they print is a gun in only the legal sense. All the serious work is still done by metal parts. Still great for possible decoration though.
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>>23757249
Ooo, classy.
>>23757110
Looks like he's got greaves on over his new leg. Pretty sweet.
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>>23757138
But then I can't turn the arm into a megabuster when you pull off the hand
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Since this is a board of traditional games. How do you treat prostheses in your games? Or do they not come up?
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>>23756709
I love that aesthetic. It looks purposeful, but not at all ugly. I suppose I like my prosthesis Jensen style-- fully functional and understated.
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>>23757297
Shadowrun and Cyberpunk 2020 are all ABOUT the prosthetics.
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>>23757297
Oh, they do.

They do...

My most recent character has lost an arm at the bicep-- has a bionic arm kinda like Adam Jensen. Gives a +1 bonus to grappling rolls.
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>>23757297
>butterworth
Ironically that is what I would name the soldier that keeps getting limbs blown off but never dies
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>>23757269
>well ma'am your procedure was a success and we recovered your hand with only minor superficial damage. In future I would advise you not to use a $10,000 prosthetic in the way you were prior to your accident.
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>>23757296
20/10, would fight Robot Masters with.
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>>23757395
>Maybe I could interest you in our newest product. It's an attachment for all models of the iLimb specifically designed for... spelunking. As such, it's designed to be completely... waterproof, features a proximity alarm that alerts you to unwanted company approachable (which can also be disabled if you wish), comes with some specialty attachments, and it vibrates at sixteen preset speeds.
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>>23757380
Sergeant Butterworth was once captured by the enemy. He escaped his restraints by systematically detaching his own limbs, and then beat his captors to death with them.
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>>23757586
I would pay good money to watch a movie with this being the driving conflict.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EnbkilnYcE&feature=player_detailpage#t=139s

Riderman thread?

Riderman thread.
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>>23757611
But anon, that'd be a decent action movie with an interesting premise!
And we all know that only 80s action movies did that!
I haven't seen many recent movies. Most recent one I saw was Argo, and before that the Avengers.
Besides, they'd use shaky cam.
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>>23757669
If they did it anything like the cave segment of Iron Man, it would be fantastic.
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>>23754571

I imagine there's a small booster where the wrist meets the hand it detaches at launch like the second phase of a space shuttle launch.
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>>23757699
"That's one awesome robot suit."

"That's not a suit. That's Sergeant Butterworth."
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>>23754591
>>23754614

Really, they could just take a scan of your remaining hand, reverse it, then build around that for your prosthesis.
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>>23757758
So a full proper rocket punch and not the watered down pacific rim version.
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http://youtu.be/8AoRmlAZVTs

>This was made in 2010
>It's 2013
>It's been 3 years, image what his legs are like now
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A TENTACLE
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>>23757820
I'm mentioned a grad student doing just that further up the thread.
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>>23757758
>>23757833
Yes, but what about damage to the person wearing the prosthetic?

>>23757699
>>23757770
I'd watch it
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>>23757896
Why would the weirder be hurt?
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>>23757918
Have you SEEN a rocket blast off?
Why WOULDN'T the wielder be hurt?
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>>23757931
Have you seen a gyrojet being fired? Why would they be hurt.
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>>23757770
I can just imagine the guards that he takes out first, explaining to their superior what happened.

"Sir, the prisoner... pulled his arm off and beat me with it when I went to bring him his meal..."

"What do you take me for, a fool?"

Grunt #2: "Sir, I saw him replacing it when he walked out of the cell. When I started to advance on him, he kicked his leg at me and his foot flew into my face."

"What in the fuck have we done?"

Just then Sgt. Butterworth busts in, a whirlwind of metal bits, flying to and fro like Jackie Chan in a chair, table, and rope factory.

There are no survivors.
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>>23757955
Well no one mentioned gyrojets until now.

>>23757961
>Coming soon to theaters: Sergeant Butterworth Kills Everyone.
>Staring Sergeant Butterworth as himself
>Staring everyone else as themselves
Oscar bait.
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>>23757854
Fuck yeah, tentacle arm
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>>23758006
I could die happy taking part in that monumental undertaking.
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>>23757851
>"I designed my body from the ground up."

We live in an age where someone can earnestly say this in casual conversation.

That fucking FASCINATES me.
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>>23757961
The mission begins. Sergeant Butterworth is smuggled behind enemy lines in a collection of individually packed crates. Once inserted, he reattaches his limbs and various support bits and unleashes himself upon the enemy like a spring-loaded Adam Jensen.
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>>23757861

Ah, is there? That's awesome. was there a link to an article as well? I'd like learn more about that.
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>>23758057
Spring-Loaded Adam Jensen is the name of my Deus Ex remix album.
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>>23758035
And yet if he'd demanded to have his legs removed BEFORE he got frostbite so that he could improve his ability to climb rocks and control his height, no one would have let him.
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>>23758110
The same way that you're not allowed to let people who have next to no chance of recovery for comas and such (being a vegetable) die.
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>>23757854

I'm not sure we can blame Japan for this one.
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>>23757851
Jesus Christ. This is so fucking inspiring.
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>>23758267
I'll say it again, that is really terrible design.
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>>23758267
>I'm not sure we can blame Japan for this one.

Do you mean that we should thank them for a tentacle prothesis or that someone else is responsible for it?
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>>23758267
> no suction cups or dick-tip
Weaksauce.
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All I know, is that I'd really like to have one to replace my useless and deformed little mutant right hand...
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>>23758377
"It's my strong hand"
>sorry
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>>23758082
http://www.insidescience.org/content/printable-prosthetic-hand/917
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>>23757041
>>23757075
How on Earth did those work?
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>>23758463
They don't. It's purely aesthetic, the ... shit, what's the word.
It's not symbolism, but it's a similar term.
Basically; you can intimidate people when you have a metal hand, also you can punch them with it.
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>>23754422
>How does /tg/ like their prosthetic hands?
With 70's era computer technology.
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>>23758486
Did they lock into place?
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>>23758535
I laugh at your puny human hand.
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>>23758542
What do you mean by 'lock into place'?
If you mean do any of the fingers move in any appreciable way, then no they don't. It's purely decorative. People with only one hand are seen as cripples and if you're a noble or a king you cannot afford that image.
If you mean attaching to the stump, well as you can see by some of them, it's basically strapped on. That's it.
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I've been in a prosthetic thread yesterday, but I didn't ask this: Could you please provide some pictures of bionic eyes? Not very advanced, sometihng like picture related.
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>>23758486
They do work, you just have to manually lock them into position. Obviously they're not very versatile.
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>>23758585
Did you know that you can kill her in that scene? And there's even dialogue options about it!
The dev team thinks of EVERYTHING in that game!
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So, do artificial muscle fivers exist yet?
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>>23758610
Oh yeah, like in Young Frankenstein with the policeman. Even if that example is incredibly played up.
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>>23758612
Of course, that's what I always do.
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>>23758585
Funnily enough real world bionic eyes completely skipped that stage of development.
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>>23758612
I came a bit when I killed her by placing a LAM on the corridor for the first time.

Man, too bad we couldn't take the evil path.
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>>23758612
A creative player with a fistful of LAMs need fear nothing in that game.
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>>23758637

Yeah, the main reason would be that nobody would want artificial eyes which looked like that.

Artificial eye tech is actually coming along quite nicely.
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>>23758637
Really? What bionic eyes do we have now?

>mfw we won't have cool-looking mech-eyes
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>>23758637
Makes me sad. That is the best stage.
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>>23758618
If my muscles were fivers I would have a fair amount of money and be completely immobile. Would spending the cash count as vandalism?
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>>23758560
Commisar Yarrick?
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>>23758618
Being worked on.
http://www.hizook.com/blog/2009/12/28/electroactive-polymers-eap-artificial-muscles-epam-robot-applications
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>>23758661
>Climbing walls with LAMs
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>>23758618

Fibers*
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>>23758670
>nobody would want artificial eyes which looked like that.
I would.
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>>23758703

>2009
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The one thing I don't understand about bionic prosthetics is they're always portrayed as replacing a missing limb.

I feel that's short sighted. Bionics shouldn't only take the place of biological parts, they should be used _in addition_ to biological parts.

How many times while your working do you think, "gee, this would sure be easier if I had a spare hand."
We could do that! We could make that happen!
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>>23758674
Direct implants to the sensing surface of the eye coupled with a mini camera attached to glasses. Now that I think about it you could configure that into a sweet mech eye quite easily.
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>>23758741

Ya called?
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>>23758741
not really, because your core construction is not designed to support additional humanoid limbs at all.
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>>23758741
The sex toy industry is way ahead of you.
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>>23758755
Do...do they work? Or do people just have partial vision?
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TBH I really like the look of Anikin's Arm from the Prequals, maby not in black, but polished silver would be nice, maby brass or oxidised copper.

But if I was replacing a leg i'd probably get a proper prosthetic and them make myself a peg-leg.
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>>23758661
Well there were a few things, but the speed aug takes you out of range of that.
>>23758704
And it WORKED too.
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>>23758766
A light third arm folded against your chest? Become a street fighter and wear a loose hoodie. Bam surprise fist.
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>>23758737
Yeah, it's old news, it was simply an article I grabbed in a little time.

If you want something more recent: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130123165042.htm
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>>23758816
Then I could fist THREE women!
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>>23758806
I liked it, too.

>>23758816
Picture related, it's you
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>>23758778
Only vague shadows currently but the definition is just a matter of down scaling the electronics.
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>>23758837
your comment is the only reason I saw this thread as awesome before I looked in
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>>23758816
attached to what exactly?

Your arms are only useful because they are part of a complex system connected to the shoulder, scapula, back muscles, chest muscles etc.
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>>23758766
>not really, because your core construction is not designed to support additional humanoid limbs at all.
That isn't so great an obstacle. We have engineers.
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>>23758849
Damn straight! Now if only I could remember the colour of that froodin filter...
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>>23758852
Oh baby!

>Custom "monocle" models stuck to your face by adhesives that look like camereyes

That'd be great
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This thread makes me want to take my interest in engineering and my talent for prop-making and start a business that supplies amputees and prosthesis owners with stylish, personally customized arms and legs that match their desires, tastes, and style.
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>>23758865
attached to a rigid carapace that protects my soft organs from devious street fighters. Also the arm is useful because of the function it serves, not because it is part of a larger system.
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>>23758895
You aren't doing this why?
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>>23758895

You and me both, fellow Anon. This sort of thing is just begging to be Kickstarted.

Wouldn't it be funny if the next great advancement in human aesthetic design came from /tg/, of all places?
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>>23758895
Wait, is this not already a service?

Holy fuck. I assumed if I lost an arm someone was already ready to put LED's in the replacement.
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>>23758944
Because I'm a lazy 20-something slacker who spends all his time on 4chan?

Also, I don't really know any people with prostheses.
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>>23758865
>Your arms are only useful because they are part of a complex system connected to the shoulder, scapula, back muscles, chest muscles etc.

Additional arms wouldn't necessarily be as powerful or as versatile as the biological arms, but they wouldn't need to be.
The point of the addition isn't to take the place of your natural arms; the point is to work along side them.
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>>23758661
Obviously I was not creative enough, because I feared things in that game.
Except Gunther, because I took the time to learn his phrase.
I tried to fight him for real once. Fire. Fire and plasma everywhere.
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>>23758969

Fuck, man, that's literally no reason not to do this. I'm a 26-year-old slacker stoner with a limited design background, and even I think I could get this shit working if I found the right people and threw it out there on Kickstarter.

Do you have an eye for design and people skills? That's literally all you need to get going.
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>>23759005
techpreist plz go
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>>23758457
>http://www.insidescience.org/content/printable-prosthetic-hand/917

Thank you kindly, good sir.
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>>23758674
Current bionic eye
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>>23759021
I'd likely need something beyond a hot glue gun and some cardboard. Don't get me wrong. I can make cardboard into some amazing shit, but I don't know how many people would want me to spiff up their arm with some cardboard.
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>>23759050
Even a weak third arm would be awesome for soldering. Especially since it wouldn't be as sensible to heat.
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>>23759077
So not too far from cyber-mirrorshades.
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Imagine being able to snap your smartphone into your arm to charge it with your bodyheat.

Imagine it integrating with the processor in your arm, allowing you to palm-activate purchases in a similar method to that which Google Wallet currently uses.

Imagine Bluetooth connectivity between the phone docked in your bicep and a tiny device implanted in the bones of your inner ear, allowing you a truly hands-free experience.

Hell, imagine if your arm WAS the smart phone, and part of the back of your prosthetic hand could be flipped back to reveal a touchscreen, complete with the mobile OS of your choice and all the apps you care to download?
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I fucking hate religion. Its all that is keeping us back from evolving past the human body
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>>23759336
Because religious officials have been saying so much about prosthetics lately. Or ever.
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>>23756812
Treasure Planet.

Muh nigga!
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>>23759336

Yeah, religion really isn't what's holding back prosthetics...
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>>23759352
>>23759450

I was veering more in the direction of biological geneering.
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>>23759466
Without religion genetic engineering would still be held back by ethics, which are not a part of religion.
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>>23758637
Nah, we had grimdark bionic eyes. It's just that only a couple were ever made.
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>>23759250
http://phys.org/news122819670.html

I remember seeing this shit in high school, and being so fucking ecstatic, but it died out. I have no idea what happened to this project, but I am gonna look into it right now.

But what you are saying is more or less along the lines of what this project was supposed to do.
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>>23759560
Yeah for some reason people don't appreciate having a metal port in their skull with a bundle of wires trailing out.
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>>23759560
It didn't help that the early bionic eyes didn't have a high enough resolution to read, and were only black and white.

It's fine if you want to live in a world reminiscent of a surrealist 1920s film, but it's not all that better than blindness for most people
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>>23759604

>Getting it snagged on things

Nope.
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>>23759680
Even just taking a shower.

Fucking nope.
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>>23759712
In the grim darkness of about 7 years ago, nobody takes showers.
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>>23754422
Still not videogames, janitor.
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>>23759680

>You've just had the gift of sight given to you, and it is a beautiful day
>You decide to go for a short walk over some fields and woods with a friend
>Your friend is ahead of you, you're speaking to each other and laughing
>Distracted as you pass a tree a stray branch hooks itself in the wires
>You don't notice at first
>Taking another step you feel a tug on the surface of your brain
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>>23759791

This is /tg/.
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>>23759716
I laughed entirely too long and hard at this.
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Thiiiiissssss
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>>23760097
Now just make it four times as long, and graft it onto the upper back...

Praise the Omnissiah, etc.
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>>23760097
>that feel when you will (probably) never get a mechanical tentacle handjob
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In another decade, stylish prostheses will probably be the norm. Designer legs and hands and such will likely become a thing as cybernetic replacement limbs become commercially viable.
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>mfw people still have organic parts
Why bother with prosthetics at all? Once we get too the point where we can fuse the biological with the artificial to such a great extent why not just stick your brain inside a sweet new body?
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>>23760275
That's the plan.
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With claws, ideally.
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>>23757249
The /k/ommando in me has a boner.
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>>23760275
>>23760282
because of economics and Q&A testing.

I'm going to go with low model genemods, most likely. Maybe artificial joints, if we can't fix my rampant arthritis.
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What would fapping with a prothesis be like?
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>>23758956
I wouldn't be surprised at all.
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>>23760737
Lay on your arm until it falls asleep, then fap with that. It's about the same.

Alternately, get a mannequin arm and try touching yourself with that.
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>>23760275
Well, a Russian oligarch is apparently working on transferring human consciousness to robot bodies.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100559031
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>>23761373
I wish him the best of luck. Hopefully it will be stable by the time I need it.
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>>23761425
Looks like he's aiming to complete the project by 2045.

How long do you suppose you have left to live, anon?
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>>23759336
The religious right is only half of the opposition to transhumanism.

The other half consists of far-left ecotards who cannot stop sucking mother nature's cock, and those assholes who pop up in every. single. transhumanism thread, who know nothing about the subject, but laugh and jeer at it anyway, and inevitably bring up how a copy of your brain in a computer is totes not you and just a copy even though no one gives a fuck.
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>>23761575
I give a fuck.
I give a lot of fucks actually.
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>>23761597
SHUT UP.
NO.

WE'RE NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

IT HAS BEEN HAD. THOUSANDS OF TIMES. NO PROGRESS HAS EVER BEEN MADE IN CONVINCING ANYONE OF ANYTHING ON EITHER SIDE.

SO SHUT YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH.
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>>23760856
Permanent Strangers would be pretty rad, but not sure if I'd give up my arm for it.
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>>23761575
Meh. Transhumanists will win in the end, if only because there's so much shit that can kill humans that can't hurt machines.

>that feel when setting off a radiological weapon in a population center and just doing the haters gonna hate walk through the streets while all the organics are melting
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>>23761727
You mean ignoring the EMP that kills all the electrical circuits in the area also?
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>>23761747
Not every radiation spreading weapon involves a nuclear blast, bro.
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>>23761747
>What is electrical shielding.

>What is no one has invented an EMP weapon that doesn't rely on detonating a nuclear device in high atmo.

>What is I have no idea how electronics work.
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>>23761766
True, but my main point is there are also plenty of things that can kill electronics that don't even phase bioforms.
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>>23761747
You can back up your existence if you have a computer brain. Also if we are using that kind of argument then I would like to point out that the mortality rate of humans is 100%
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>>23761799
You don't know what those words mean.
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>>23761799
It's not that hard to shield electronics against even the strongest EMP. Hell, most military computers are already protected against it.
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>>23761799
Name some please.
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>>23761891
Computer viruses, cutting off energy access, EMP (which can be generated without nuclear explosions). I am sure there are others, but I cannot personally think of them.
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>>23755852

Hey there
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>>23758585

The good news is we have bionic eyes, the even better news is you have to wear Deus Ex type sunglasses when its operating.
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>>23761931
>Computer viruses

Why would you hook your body up to the internet and not use a sequestered system?

>EMP

Requires a nuclear detonation. Let's see you survive that, fleshy.
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>>23761799
Likewise, there are things that can kill biologicals but do not matter at all to electronics, like infections and lack of water.

The question is, which will end up being more suited to survival: Pure biological, pure machine, or a fusion of the two. Since the distinction between the two gets a bit weird when you reach the level of miniaturization on which cellular machinery resides, the question may not even make sense.
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>>23761931
All of which are negated by having back ups. Please tell us how to create an emp of useful size without a nuclear explosion.
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>>23760275

That's my plan; I'll be an old man in the 2070's, who knows what we'll have then? I'd like it if I could buy some 17 year old suicide victim and have them put my brain into his body after they've patched up the corpse. Wash. Rinse. Repeat
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>>23761931
>Cutting off energy access

Have fun surviving without food meatboy.
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>>23762043
If it's the 2070s, and complete brain transplants exist, why would you need corpses? Just have a custom body printed.
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>>23762096
Because it's my fetish.
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>>23762114
But will it still be your fetish in 60 years?
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>>23762096
Well "if" is the operative word here; the world's not doing so hot right now in general and I'm not sure how long our little rough spot will last.
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>>23762146
Look on the bright side, if the world is grimdark in the future, it should be easier to find a fresh body to use for your sick experiments.
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>>23762174
No need, Syria's in the midst of a terrible civil war and there's plenty of bodi- I mean subjects to work on.
brb gonna go be Re-animator lolz
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>>23758585
I'll do you one better:

THIS FIRST ANTI BIONIC HATECRIME

>"He angrily grabbed my eyeglass, and tried to pull it off my head. The eyeglass is permanently attached and does not come off my skull without special tools."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/steve-mann-attacked-paris-mcdonalds-digital-eye-glass-photos_n_1680263.html

http://www.connexionfrance.com/McDonald%27s-Paris-Champs-Elysees-bionic-eye-Steve-Mann-attack-13966-view-article.html
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>>23763129
The French are very lucky they did not try this on Sergeant Butterworth.
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>>23759820
Actually, no. Your brain itself can feel NOTHING.
I'm not kidding, your brain has no nerve endings, it can feel nothing for itself.
Which just makes it even more horrifying to get the wire snagged.



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