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I nod along with her, and bring her to the table. When I arrive for Lunch, I see that Lancer is already waiting.

He doesn't have much to report, from what he can gather there isn't anything at the Docks we needed to be concerned with, and that Avenger and Gilgamesh seem to be waiting for someone else to make a move.

Arcueid is notably absent from the proceedings.

>Anything in particular you wanted to talk about?
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Getting the maids?
Returning Rider to Sakura?
Setting up Caster's love nest?
Wait, where's Satsuki?
And on this episode of the bachelor, I only have one rose left. Who wants it?
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>>23604320

Love advice from Lancer.
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>>23604320
This can wait until after we eat, but we really, REALLY need to address the mounting sexual tension. Preferably with an orgy.
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Updated Ebook: http://www.mediafire.com/?mu7gqlxxu7kip7e

>>23604320
Let everyone know that we met the vampire if we haven't already, mention that Arc might be out after it, but we don't know.
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>>23604394
>Who wants it?
Best girl.
>>23604320
Ask Lancer for advice with our love troubles. Don't explicitly ask him about seeing multiple women, just ask for his advice. Shirou probably doesn't know how big of a pimp Cu Chulainn was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcPIA6_zKX4
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>>23604320
Ask Lancer for advice on dating multiple women at the same time.
Ask Lancer if his Master is a chick.
Ask Lancer if he's seen any sign of Arc or the Vampire.
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>>23604443

We should attempt to give her a call.

That shinso won't miss a free meal lightly.
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>>23604447

Send Rider to retrieve and seduce best girl
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>>23604458
>shinso
Did you mean "shisno"?
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Ok so I'm like 99.999999% sure there IS something at the docks we need to be concerned about.

We still have no clue what his Master's deal is, and a convenient "nothing to see here, move along citizen" just reeks of bullshit to me.

Also, everyone keep in mind that any romantic solution that isn't beneficial to Team Purple could end with Rider's knife in our gut. We were warned.
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>>23604394
While I'd love to talk with Lancer re: romance, we have bigger fish to fry.

This list is pretty comprehensive.
>Illya's Maids
>Returning Rider to her Master
>Getting Caster a proper base Obligatory "SHE MUST BEFRIEND AND TRAIN RIN!" comment
>Satsuki's whereabouts
>Resolve the Shirou Love Crisis


On an unrelated note: do we know what happened to Kotomine? I have the feeling he and Arcueid just vanished after the vampire showed up
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>>23604539
We'll only get knifed if we hurt Sakura. So IF we wind up going with another girl, we'll just have to let her down easy.
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>>23604544

Actually it'll be better for Sakura to do the befriending.

Especially since in CP, Sakura and Caster get along pretty well with Sakura teaching Caster dishes to make for her hubby.
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Also, we need to secretly work on setting Lancer up with Fuji-nee. They'd make a cute couple.
Also, it would give us some leverage on him.
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>>23604785

Nigger, are you trying to deny LancerxBazett?
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>>23604798
>implying Lancer isn't enough for two women
Nigga are you doubting the man who bedded both Scathach and her daughter? If anyone here can pull off a harem, it's him. Dude knows how to keep his bitches in line.
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>>23604742
True. Sakura & Caster seem like they'd have a LOT to benefit from each other, on the domestic/relational front.

I just imagine that Caster (Being one of the best sorcerers on the planet at this point) teaching Rin (the most magic-adept member of this household) the ancient secrets of The Age of the Gods would be incredible. Rin's Gandr, souped up with techniques dating back to when legends were real? Badass!

>>23604785
>>23604798
WHile I'd agree that Lancer & Bazett make a cute couple, we have nothing to indicate that Bazett is a key player in this war so far.

Lancer was being all comfort-y to Taiga earlier, and there were a few intractions between the two which were kind of cute.

Plus, she strikes me as the kind of woman who Lancer would really like. She's a tiger in the sack, I'll bet!
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>>23604853
>dat spoiler
CARLOS!
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>>23604853
>talking about Tiger-sensei in the sack
Let's just say that horrid pain isn't the ONLY thing Torashinai can inflict on your ass.
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>>23604853

I guess you can say shes a maneater.
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>Gonna try and touch on the Major points.

"Alright. So, for those still unaware, I had a run in with the Vampire."

"Did you kill it?" Lancer asks, while adding a few pieces of grilled fish to his plate.

"No, unfortunately. It go away, so I saved the girl it was holding Hostage instead."

"Another one?" Lancer comments with a confused "Damn kid, you need to slow down."

"What was I supposed to do? Leave her alone in the woods? She needed a rescue and I was in a position to help." He gives me a look like he's not entirely sure if I'm joking. "In any case, Arcueid decided to go after them while the trail was fresh. I'm guessing she's still on the trail if she hasn't called to touch base yet."

"Anything new about Avenger or Gilgamesh?" Rider asks the table."

"Not that I'm aware of. They went to ground somewhere, apparently." Lancer responds. "Unless you guys know something?"

"I'm pretty sure they were holding the Vampire hostage, for whatever reason." I hesitate. "Which reminds me. Apparently they've kidnapped Shinji, and were using him to watch the cell."

"Wait, he was there when the Vampire... got loose?" Sakura asks, alarmed. "What happened?"

"He got grabbed. I'm not sure if he's a hostage or food to it." I respond gently. Sakura seems to be holding back.... a smile? What the-

"In any case." Caster says. "We need to decide if we should be focusing on Avenger or the Vampire. I'll be relocating soon, maybe even tonight. But I can scry and set wards if nothing else, even if I can't battle directly yet."

[ ] The Vampire. We can't have two villains running around.
[ ] Avenger. We still have no idea what his plans are.

>I'm guessing more 'private' dialogues are for later.
>Also ignoring the questions you already know the answers to.
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>>23604911

>Sakura seems to be holding back.... a smile? What the-
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>>23604911
>She needed a rescue and I was in a position to help.

oh exploitable.
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>>23604911

>[ ] The Vampire. We can't have two villains running around.

Voting for vampire.
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>>23604911
>Sakura seems to be holding back.... a smile? What the-

BUENO.jpg

Sakura has an edge to her, mate! It's a fitting (and funny) contrast to the sweet-girl-next-door mentality and the long-suffering maiden routine

As for the question at hand:
[X] The Vampire. We can't have two villains running around.
Fuck this fang-banger.

Get back to your own franchise, suckhead! Vampires & Demon-hunters go in Tsukihime, Heroes of Legend and SWORDS go in Fate!

Besides, saving Gil/Avenger for a final battle will be much more satisfying
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>>23604911
>[ ] The Vampire. We can't have two villains running around.

We'll have Arc on our side for this one. She won't really care that much about Avenger unless we can somehow convince her to help afterwards by saying "He's literally All Evil of the World. Do you want to deal with him before or after he gets the all-powerful wish granting grail?"
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[X] Avenger.

Take care of the root of the chaos

Plot twist: it's all our fault and Avenger is trying to stop it
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>>23605026
>"In any case." Caster says. "We need to decide if we should be focusing on Avenger or the Vampire. I'll be relocating soon, maybe even tonight.
I'm slightly concerned about this. How loyal is Caster? A comment on the last thread struck me as that - if things changed in our dynamic -she could easily become an enemy. I have night mares of Avenger showing up all Mephistopheles-like and making an offer she can't refuse...

>>23605026
I'd like to have Arc on our side when Avenger (with Gil in tow) starts moving towards an endgame, but I doubt her loyalty goes that far. Could a REALLY good bluff check go so far as to convince her that Gil (with gold hair and red eyes) is another, rogue True Ancestor?

It's a long shot, but if we spin something like that...
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>>23604911
>[x] The Vampire. We can't have two villains running around.


Avenger and Gil seem content to wait, so let them stew. As long as we're taking the initiative and proacting instead of reacting, we should be fine.
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>>23605134
Yeah, this is a woman that does not trust easily. But! She's not an outright bad guy, She drained mana from people to unconsciousness. Souichiro is the one who asked her why not just suck em dry.
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>>23605134
I don't think that would work. One look at Gilgamesh and she'd know that he's no True Ancestor.

(From the 21st verse)
>We reach the bridge in relative silence, and Ilya's happily talking to Berserker about 'her' new puppy. Well, I did already guess it was headed in that direction, not that I particularly mind.
>When we arrive, Arcueid immediately confronts Berserker. "You aren't actually the 'Vampire' we're hunting, are you?"
>"Wait, you know who Berserker is?" Ilya asks confused.
>"... Of course. The heroes you have running around are or were people, so there's still a connection to the world there." Arcueid responds, genuinely surprised.
>"Wait, connection to the world? Marble Phantasms?" I look around. "Walking around in the middle of the day? I thought you said you were a Vampire."

With what I said about dealing with Avenger before or after she got the grail, I was thinking that if Avenger got the grail and if he or Gil used it to kill off most of the world, The World itself would call Arc and force her to deal with Avenger.
Granted, my only knowledge on if this could work comes from one of the last stages of the non-canon Battle Moon Wars game. I haven't played MB so I don't exactly know how Arc's connection to the world really works and what she's called to do.
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"The Vampire. We have him on the run, and we don't need two villains trying to ruin everything." I respond after a moment's hesitation.

"My Master wants me to focus more on Avenger." Lancer comments. "But if you have the Priest and that other girl to help you, you shouldn't need me."

Rin blinks and looks at him. "Didn't your Master have you investigating Vampires in the first place?"

"When there was weird stuff and rumors. Now the Vampire is a known factor with an people hunting it, and honestly, I think Avenger's the bigger threat." He shrugs.

Other than the mild surprise from his announcement, Lunch is finished in short order.

Rin stops me. "We're going through the groceries a little faster than we thought."

"We need more?"

"Wouldn't hurt. Besides, it would be better to do it now while we're not busy. Nobody's going to be making big moves in the middle of the day."

It makes sense. "Should we bring a servant along?"

".... Should we? I can call Rider for help, and we're staying in visible, populated areas." She seems to be avoiding the topic.

[ ] Try and Catch Lancer.
[ ] Ask Caster about her move.
[ ] Go shopping.
[ ] Other.
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>>23605352

>Are or were people.

>Are or were.

>ARE

Does she already know about Saber?
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>>23605382
>[ ] Try and Catch Lancer.
Then we can ask for relationship advice from the third biggest pimp ever to walk the Emerald Isle.
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>>23605382

[x] Go shopping then. Bring Rider too.
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>>23605382
Schlopping.

Bonding time with the purple posse and Rin, maybe.
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>>23605382
>[ ] Go shopping.
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>>23605352
>With what I said about dealing with Avenger before or after she got the grail, I was thinking that if Avenger got the grail and if he or Gil used it to kill off most of the world, The World itself would call Arc and force her to deal with Avenger.

Probably. I forgot that bit about Arc's senses. But it was worth a shot.

>>23605402
Ha ha! Or is SHIROU a Servant? IDFK anymore. AC-guy likes it when we spout shit, so why not take it all the way!

>>23605382
[X]Ask Caster about her move
I'm slightly concerned about this, but I'll elaborate in another post.
[X] Go shopping. Bring the Purple Posse! A Rin is fine, too
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>>23605382
[x] Other.
Drag Rin, Sakura, Rider, Saber and Sakura aside and discuss this stupid tension like responsible ad- erm, people.
>>23605402
It might be a 'certain point of view' thing. Or a 'fucking wizards I don't even know' thing.
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>>23605494

>AC-guy likes it when we spout shit

He actually added a commentary track to the insane ramblings pastebin from the last thread: http://pastebin.com/BwhREMG6
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>>23605382
>[ ] Ask Caster about her move.
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>>23605382

>Lancer.

We need to ask him for dating advice.
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>>23605494
>>23605223
She's quite justified in being distrustful, given her mortal life (I'm REALLY fond of the Euripides play which shares her name) and her first Master in Fate (a guy she happily ganked when he turned abusive, even if such an act would risk her life).

I just want to help her recognize that the people in this house are people who she can trust. Damned near everyone in this household is psychologically damaged and has issues being vulnerable with others (Sakura and her domestic history, Shirou and his self-destructive nature, etc).

Caster isn't alone in that regard, and shouldn't need to feel alone. This isn't just healing-type-author bullshit, it's a way of shoring our bets. If Caster feels she cannot trust us and someone *cough*AVENGER*cough* spins a compelling story for why betraying SHirou & co might be in her best interest (like, say, it guarantees her a stable body which won't fade and allows for CasterxSouichirou happy ending) she'd be be much more inclined to do so if she doesn't trust us.

If we can make her believe in Shirou, then we might not have to square off against a magical ballista with a magically enhanced kung-fu assassin as a bodyguard.

It's a small possibility, but worth avoiding all the same.

>>23605382
Well, shit. There goes Lancer. Think he'll get back on board with us after the Vampire is dispatched. I liked our little Sentai team! I don't wanna see it dissolve just yet!
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>>23605382
>[X]Ask Lancer if we can count on his help again after the Vampire is dealt with, at least until Avenger is dealt with.
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>>23605382
[ ] Go shopping. Don't bring anyone else and see what Rin wants to talk about.
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>>23605586
I'll second that.
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>>23605586
Ya, I think the implication is that Rin wants to talk to us alone.
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>>23605543
Has Nasu ever really divulged much about Caster's summoner? All I know is:
He was a prick, and he forced her to keep her mana reserves limited (not wanting her more powerful than him)
She convinced him that he needed to use his command spells up on little stuff so she could off him
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>>23605643
>>23605607
>>23605586
Dammit, you changed my mind
[x] We go shopping with Rin alone... let's see what's on her mind.

>>23605649
I'm afraid not. There was an amazing doujin called Another Moebius which is this one guy's idea of what her pre-Souichirou history was like.

http://dracova.livejournal.com/5630.html

I've storytimed it a few times now. It's my head-canon for Caster's backstory before the series began
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>>23605515
That comentary track!

>[This joke never gets old. Just like Shirou's parents.]

I laughed FAR more than I should have.

>[Or maybe he could just hear Linkin Park playing. Sakura=Rap fan.]

Linkin Park? Rap? I feel the part of me that should be posting on /mu/ froth with rage, even though Wikipedia says they count as rap rock.

>['We are the sword'. Pretty Zen, Bro.]

"It's a state of mind thing, man!"

[Kinda surprised someone hasn't already been doing mapping shit like that.]

Should we start this? I'm off to bed, shortly, so count me out. But this seems like a Good Idea, somehow
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>>23605494
>Or is SHIROU a Servant?
Maybe Shirou's a ROBOT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wORyg8o81Y
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>The fuck is even winning.

>>23605782

>Mike Shinoda raps like a motherfucker. Just because they add grunge/punk/metal shit into it doesn't make him less of a rapper.

>I haven't really listened to them since I was.... fifteen? Still.

>>23605818

>Your comment would make more sense if it was accompanied by a robot.
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>>23605782
Making maps like that is literally my job, and I've thought about making one for this quest once or twice...but I'm too lazy to go back through and look up all the points.
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>>23605839
Hmm, using our non-dense Shirou senses, Rin wants to talk to us in guise of shopping. To the market!
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>>23605839

look like shopping with Rin.
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Guys, if we wind up letting Sakura down easy, I know what we have to say.
Me and you is a blessing see
Sorry, sweetheart we can never be
The little things you do be depressin' me
Still, baby girl, we can never be
Cause I got a girl at home that I'm blessed to keep
And to fool around with you would be the death of me
Can't have the ingredients of the recipe
Cause it isn't fair to you nor fair to me
And more importantly
It sure isn't fair to her
Guess we might've had a chance before I met her
Cause she is worth more than life to me
A soulmate
Who am I to control fate?
Cause somebody like you is much more than a cud buddy
But I can't give you all the things that you want from me
So...
We can't be, we won't be
Sorry love.
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>>23605938
>And to fool around with you would be the death of me
>Can't have the ingredients of the recipe
>Cause it isn't fair to you nor fair to me
>And more importantly
>It sure isn't fair to her
>Guess we might've had a chance before I me

Breaking the painful news to a girl who idolizes you in rap is NOT a good way to do so, especially when she is slightly sheepish about her own love of rap. It will NOT end well.
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>>23605938
>implying Sakura wouldn't recognize the lyrics to Hikari instantly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehYBw__AyQ
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I grab my coat and let the people remaining in the house know where we're going before departing with Rin.

We get about a third of the way to the Shopping district when she turns to me. "I should apologize."

"For what?" I ask, genuinely baffled.

"For.... well that spell. The failed tracking one." She sighs. "It was dumb of me to cast it. When I realized what it was I told you and.... My curiosity got the best of me."

"I don't think you need to apologize for that." I answer, shaking my head. "I'm not terribly concerned by it."

"But...." She looks at me, trying to find a way to make me understand her unease. "I used a spell like that knowing what it did. With a mix of our...." She blushes. "It was a stupid waste of time. Even if we DID eventually...." She trails off slightly, and shakes her head. "You're right, the war's more important. You've been saying that since the beginning."

She's quiet again, leaving me.... confused.

[ ] I might revise that policy.
[ ] But you did it with EVERYONE.
[ ] I really can't see the big deal.
[ ] You should show it to Caster.
[ ] (Say Nothing).
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>>23606091
[x]I really can't see the big deal
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>>23606091
>[ ] You should show it to Caster.
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>>23606091
>[ ] But you did it with EVERYONE.
Well except Caster and Souichirou.
>[ ] You should show it to Caster.
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>>23606091
> [ ] I might revise that policy
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>>23606091

Start with:
>[ ] I really can't see the big deal.
Then move into:
>[ ] I might revise that policy.

And finally as a laughing aside as shes digesting this new bit of info:
>[ ] You should show it to Caster.
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>>23606091
>[x] I really can't see the big deal.

Clueless Shirou mode engage!
Also, I hope Sakura doesn't read into this shopping trip too much.
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>>23606091

>[ ] But you did it with EVERYONE.

"Rin, are you planning something? I'm not sure I'll object, but I NEED to know."

Is Rin going for her Harem?
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>>23606126

Sounds about right, yea.
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>>23606126
Definately this.
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>>23606126

This.

A good sequence and covers just about everything we want to tell.
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>>23606091
>[X] But you did it with EVERYONE.
I thought it was just a funny joke!

>[X] You should show it to Caster.
Now THAT I would love to see! Ha! Take that Rider! You're not the only one who can meddle in other's love lives!
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>>23606126

If we can do this, we do this.
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>>23606091
>[ ] You should show it to Caster.

I'm personally against the whole "revising policy on no dating during Grail War". It really seems like something that only ends with us on fire by this point. Especially after the death threats from team purple.
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>>23606154
>funny joke
might not go over so well
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>>23606091
"I'll be honest, I would consider revising that policy if I didn't think it would lead to me getting killed messily."

Also
[x] You should show it to Caster.
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>>23606182
She's only gonna kill us if we toy with Sakura.
Admittedly, that means we REALLY need to make a decision, and let everyone know about it, BEFORE we go revising that policy.
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>>23606091
>[x] But you did it with EVERYONE.

"Rin, are you implying something?"
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>>23606151
This is pretty solid, actually. Change my vote to this.

Just be SURE to mention to Rin how Rider might turn murderous if Sakura's too broken up over this.
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>>23606198
>>23606134

Seriously guys. If she realizes she's encouraging things, she'll help us settle it.

Not necessarily seduce everyone into a pile, but at the very least prevent our dick from getting cut off.

And then there's the off chance she will actually help us seduce everyone into a pile of babe.
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>>23606126

Do it.
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>>23606126
Excellent course of action.
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>>23606091
>[ ] I might revise that policy.
>[ ] But you did it with EVERYONE.

"Rin, despite my insistences, I am not that opposed to having a relationship with someone. The problem is, right now, I'm up to my neck in girls who I trust and care about, and if I handle this badly I'm going to end up with some very powerful, very beautiful, very upset women angry at me. I doubt the city would survive it, let alone me.

So unless I can contrive a situation where everyone's happy, I can't really afford to revise my policy on fear of death."
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[x] >>23606134
... yes.
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>>23606234

"After all, I can hardly protect everyone when they're trying to kill me in a jealous rage."
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>>23606234
>win grail war
>use wish to clone self
problem solved.
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Well, let's tally the votes!

>I really can't see the big deal
>>23606104
>>23606130

>You should show it to Caster.
>>23606107
>>23606182

>But you did it with EVERYONE.
>>23606116 + Show it to Caster
>>23606134
23606154 + Show it to Caster [vote changed]
>>23606198
>>23606218
>>23606246

I might revise that policy
>>23606125
>>23606194 "if it won't kill me" + Show it to Caster
>>23606234 + But you did it with EVERYONE.
>>23606251 + But you did it with EVERYONE.

Combo pack:
>>23606126
>>23606135
>>23606150
>>23606151
>>23606173
>>23606208
>>23606219
>>23606222
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>>23606252
MY OWN CLONE!

NOW NEITHER OF US WILL BE VIRGINS!
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>>23606091
Sorta this >>23606234
With a bit of 'sooner or later someone will be distracted by it and get themselves hurt'.
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>>23606252
>>23606261
>inb4 Archerko, and she ends up being added to the Harem.
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>>23606234
Straightforward Eloquence. I like it.
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>>23606261
I imagine that if Shirou ever did clone himself, it would be the exact opposite of Scientific Progress Goes Boink.

A bunch of guys running around, doing manual labor, cooking, saving people.
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Perhaps we should point out that we're the only one who hasn't seen what his kids look like?
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>>23606091
"So, uhm, what did ours look like?"
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>>23606234
I'd actually suggest reorganizing that last thought. With apologies:

"So, since I would like us all *not* to die a painful and messy death, I can't really afford to revise my policy unless I can contrive a situation where everyone's happy."

The most emphasized part is generally the part at the end. Ending on the phrase "fear of death" might push her into trying to protect Shirou from everyone else (with a probable BAD END for her). Ending on the phrase "a situation where everyone's happy" is more likely to push her to strive for exactly that.
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>>23606306

>I'll incorperate that.

>>23606255
>>23606264
>>23606289
>>23606296

>It looks liek the consensus has become Goddamned EVERYTHING.

>Give me a minute to write this up.
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>>23606316

Hm, good call. I agree with your revision.
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>>23606322
>the consensus has become Goddamned EVERYTHING.
Well, we have to somehow distract you from the hopeless, porn-free void that is your life.
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>>23606329
Goddammit, not everyone thinks with their dick.

>>23606324
Do you think AC-Guy would be that picky about it? The message remains fairly clear - if we hurt Sakura, Rider might take issue with it. We need to be sensitive.

>>23606261
Goddamn, that line still makes me laugh
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>>23606380
>Do you think AC-Guy would be that picky about it?

Can't hurt to be specific.
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>>23606380
>not everyone thinks with their dick.
You're right. Women don't. They don't have one to think with. Perhaps AC-Guy is a girl who doesn't want to draw unnecessary attention based on that fact?

Kidding, kidding.
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>>23606407
Having followed his twitter for a while I'm fairly certain he's a dude.
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"I might end up revising that policy." I say, and Rin starts, looking at me. "It's not that I'm worried about relationships, I just thought it might be an unnecessary distraction. Now though, I'm wondering if I created a bigger problem."

"So..... Are you saying that because you picked someone?" She asks, equal parts concerned and hopeful.

"I'm up to my neck in girls I trust and care about, and if I handle this badly I'm going to end up with some VERY powerful, beautiful, and ANGRY women directing their wrath at me for stringing them along. Since I'd like us all to survive this war, I can't really afford to revise the policy unless I can find a way to make everybody happy."

".... You're not plotting something, are you?"

"Plotting something?"

She gives me a look. "You never really seemed the type, but are you saying you might try for more than one person?"

"You aren't exactly helping things, showing everyone the baby-visions."

She stops walking. "Oh god. I didn't.... I didn't even THINK about that." She buries her face in her hands. "I always manage to overlook something obvious."

I calmly hook one arm into hers. "Don't worry about it, we'll figure something out. Honestly though I can't see why all of this is a big deal."

"... The baby thing?"

".... I was thinking more myself, but yeah. that too." I hesitate. "You know, I'm the only one who hasn't seen that? It seems unfair that it was all me plus someone else and I didn't get any of them. You have no idea how hard it was not to ask Rider if all hers had little eye-patches."

Rin stares at me blankly, and then starts cracking up. "No, they didn't. That's... why would you even think that?"

"Sarcastic witticisms seems to be the entire basis for Rider's friendship with me." I pause. "You should show that spell to Caster."

".... Why?"

"Because I need to break her instinct to see us as enemies completely before I can help her." I give her a insane grin. "Plus, her reactions amuse me."
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>>23606407

Pretty sure hes a dude.

BUT he might look like a girl.

>trap AC-Guy.
>mfw
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>>23606640

"... That's kinda evil."

"It's evil for me to root for her when she's so obviously in love with somebody? It's evil for me to want someone else to be happy and push them towards it?"

Rin stares at me concerned. ".... No, but that's.... It's a really weird way of doing it. Manipulative and mean. Prodding by teasing her. It's...." She looks away. "... It's not really like you."

It hits me hard, like a punch to the gut. She's right. I've been sitting here, laughing at Caster and upsetting her for my own amusement. Sure, I was helping, but there were other ways.

I try to think of a way to move onto a new topic.

[DC 15 Perception]
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>>23606629
It's a descendent of a joke of something personal AC-Guy mentioned last thread. Which is prolly the last time that happens
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Rolled 4

>>23606646
Rollingu
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Rolled 11

>>23606646

Ohshit
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Rolled 6

>>23606646
dice GO!
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Rolled 14

>>23606655
>>23606666
>>23606673

>shirouyoulostme.jpg
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>>23606643

>Fairly masculine actually.

>I'm actually wondering if I'm in something of a minority on 4chan, being masculine and pretty much entirely hetro.
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>>23606685
>and pretty much entirely hetro.

the exception(s) being?
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>>23606707

>None that I'm aware of. I'm just secure in myself enough that I'd admit to being attracted to a dude if I was.

>I'm just not. Or at least haven't been yet, and have no reason to expect it to happen.
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>>23606685

So you DON'T want to be the little girl?

also hopes and dreams shattered.
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>>23606715
Say hello to Yoroi Mikoto.
No, we're not sure if he's really a guy. He's a she in Unlimited and Alternative, and very well might be a reverse trap in Extra. It's never really clear. Fucking alternate-universe dickery.
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>>23606646
>"... It's not really like you."

>It hits me hard, like a punch to the gut.

No, Shirou, YOU are the jerkface!

It's nice to see the smartassery clash with the compassionate side a bit. Shirou suffering is delicious (as I've said before when the reveal of maybe-demon first came about), and seeing his altrustic inclinations get slapped by the troll side /tg/ has been cultivating this quest is a nice touch.

Perhaps Shirou really IS a hero! The classical antiquity kind!

>>23606646
Well, shit. No point in me rolling. I just hope we can survive getting broadsided by whatever-it-is that's screwing with us
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I turn, hearing something and see someone arguing about someone being accused of shoplifting.

They kinda look familiar, like I've seen them at school. I turn to ask Rin, and see her moving away through the crowd.

I follow her, speeding up to catch her but she seems to always be one step ahead.

I start to realize something weird's happening when I arrive at the bridge. I look around, seeing nothing, and I start to reach for my phone when I hear a voice.

"Oh hey, the lure did work." Avenger greets from a nearby bench. "Wasn't sure that it would."

"Avenger." I greet tersely, mentally calculating possible exits and attack plans, watching the corner of my eyes for the possibility that Gilgamesh is nearby.

"Shirou." He greets with a nod, drinking some sort of black liquid from a cup. "How are things?"

>What say?
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>>23606807
Perception fail: Gil and Avenger out walking their pet Berserker
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>>23606817

oh fuck.

PUT PHONE IN POCKET AND DIAL HOME.

GONDOR CALLS FOR AID
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>>23606817
"Complicated. You?"

He wants to talk? Let's talk
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>It's evil for me to root for her when she's so obviously in love with somebody?
>It's evil for me to want someone else to be happy and push them towards it?

>...weird way of doing it. Manipulative and mean. Prodding by teasing her.

Uhh... This Shirou's "helping instinct" seems to be getting out of hand.

Unconsciously trying to fulfill the wishes of those around him? A manifestation of Shirou's (hypothetical) Demon origins? Or perhaps Avenger's personality is bleeding off to Shirou?

>>23606817
"I'm getting sick of the mind games, really. You?"
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>>23606846
seconding.
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>>23606817

Bench means vending machine somewhere.

Find vending machince.

Acquire beverage.
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>>23606846
>>23606869
These.

Oh, and this might be that dream Sakura saw of us with Avenger. Just throwing that out there.
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>>23606846
>>23606860
thirding
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>>23606846
>"Complicated. You?"
YOU CAN HAVE MY VOTE!

>>23606817
Did Avenger just Pied Piper Our Girl In Red away with his Satan powers?

And is he drinking Demon Grail Jizz? I mean, really! That shit's bad for you, 'Venger!
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"Complicated. You?" I ask, deciding not to escalate the situation.

"Same really." He looks around. "I seem to have lost my minion. Apparently he messed up one of my schemes somehow."

"Really?" I comment, grabbing a drink.

"Yeah. Apparently he failed to contain my prisoner, and got his stupid ass kidnapped." He shakes his head in disappointment. "Archer seems happy for the distraction at least, since apparently finding his Minion kills time." He shakes his head. "He apparently bought a bow and arrow set from somewhere to make the hunt 'sporting'."

"Huh."

"I shit you not, his reasoning was that nobody in this war would expect an Archer to actually use a bow in combat." He sighs dramatically as I sit next to him. "At least I know his handicap won't result in him leveling half the city somehow."

"That's something."

"It isn't much." He counters, then looks at me. "So what's complicating your life? Girl problems again?" A small, almost mischievous twinkle rests in his eye. "Or still?"

>What say?
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>>23606959
No, I'm pretty sure he just Pied Pipered *us* away *from* Our Girl in Red with his Satan powers.
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>>23606989
"Actually, the pantry is about to run out of supplies..."
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>>23606989
"Every problem a grain of sand, every night I inherit the desert."
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>>23606989

I want to hate him, but scenes like this make things hard.

Things we need to bring up:

>His motivation.
>Why he says we're his brother, and how accurate that is.
>His connection to the Avenger from the third war.

Anybody else?
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>>23606989
"i'm not sure how to phrase an answer that's going to be temporally correct enough for both of us to make sense of it.

But yeah. Girls, and i'm starting to run out of food."
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>>23606989
"A little from column A, a little from column B.
Don't suppose you know where my soul got to?"
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>>23607007
Open with this
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>>23606989
"Okay, seriously, what's your problem anyway? Why do you want to destroy us? We've got got dog racing. East Tokyo United. Those fruity little drinks with the umbrellas. Is there really NOTHING in the world that you'd miss if it was all gone?"
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>>23606989
>"I shit you not, his reasoning was that nobody in this war would expect an Archer to actually use a bow in combat."

Team Evil is also Team Genre Savvy! I like these guys, when they aren't fucking with us.

>>23607034
>>23607007
Hey, we're a culinary guy. It's our thing.

I kind of want to idly chat with him. Shit, for a person forced against his will to be the personification of all sin, Avenger is really laid back.

>>23607052
>>23607018
I think we need to work this in, somehow.

We've not had much face-time with you mysterious 'brother', so we might as well ask:

"What's the deal with Avenger-class Servants? Do they wanna avenge or do they wanna serve?"
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>>23607018
Well, if Avenger is in a gloating mood, I'm seconding this.

If he's pretty savvy or have read the Evil Overlord List then this is just him buying time or putting wool over our eyes.

The Emiya house is probably under attack now...
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>>23607140
Alright, here's my shitty attempt to unify.
"What's the deal with Avenger-class Servants? Do they wanna avenge or do they wanna serve? And I mean why are you so hell-bent on world destruction? We've got got dog racing. East Tokyo United. Those fruity little drinks with the umbrellas. Is there really NOTHING in the world that you'd miss if it was all gone? And why do you keep calling me 'brother' anyway? Is it, like, some Metal Gear Solid thing, where we're both clones of some crazy powerful Magus, and you got all the recessive genes while I got all the dominant ones? Because you DO know Liquid actually had the dominant genes all along, right? Or maybe we're clones of the Avenger from the Third Grail War? Seriously, I'm completely lost here."
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>>23607151
Additionally, Avenger still has that tracking bracelet on Shinji.
...who is with the vampire right now.
...while being chased by a True Ancestor.

Well shit. Gilgamesh vs. Arcuied: Final End-of-the-World-as-we-know-it Round.
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>>23607181
Arc wins, provided she goes all out.
HEVEN OR HELL!
FINAL!
LET'S ROCK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9X1Ta1jN8E
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I can imagine AC-Guy going sighing and going aw shit.

We'll be here for a while.
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>>23607175
"And does that mean that even when we do have our final showdown, I won't get to kill you, you'll just die due to some virus I didn't even know I was carrying? And are you gonna wind up possessing Archer a few years down the line, and some albino Liberian child soldier with serious memory problems and a clingy girlfriend is gonna have to fight the possessed Archer and HIS squad of badass Servants? Is Magecraft really just "Nanomachines, son." or am I reading too much into this?"
Engaging operation "annoy Avenger to death"
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>>23607192
Might I recommend a fitting finale?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hdi2yuYoU0

>>23607239
Goddammit. This Shirou is /tg/ influenced, not unfiltered /b/.

>>23607151
I'm betting this is a ruse. Capture a Grail vessel-to-be and run all the way back home.

Still, I wanna milk this guy for information. We haven't had a civil chat with the opposition in a while. He might drop some more hints.
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"I'm not completely sure how to answer that for accuracy." I respond. "But a bit of both really. Every problem's a grain of sand, and every night I inherit a desert."

"Know how that feels." He tells me with a pat on the back. "What's today's flavor?"

"Food shortage actually." I tell him. "By the way, do you happen to know what happened to my soul?"

"Your soul?" He asks, blinking heavily and turning to me startled. "You have it."

"Not according to magic."

He hesitates, putting a hand on my shoulder, eyes unfocused. "No, it's there. You just aren't used to looking for one like that." He shakes his head. "The problem is making some assumptions about who and what you are makes them not realize what they're seeing when they look at it." He takes another sip of his coffee.

"Speaking of which... are you actually my brother?" I ask, looking at him. "Because you're a servant and I'm.... a something else."

"... I suppose it isn't technically accurate." He responds. "I mean, what if someone had a clone? Would that clone be their Child? Sibling? Legal slave?" He shrugs. "We don't really fit any conventional label. Brother's just the closest and most convenient."

"So what about the third war?"

"Wasn't me."

"... What?"

"... Trying to think of a good way to explain it. Are you familiar with Christian Theology? You know how there's God, and then there's Jesus? And how Jesus is God, not god, and God's Son kinda all at the same time?" He makes some vague hand gestures to accompany his explanation. I just nod along, pretending it makes sense.

"So you're working for someone else?"

"Kinda? I mean, I don't HAVE to, but I sorta have to."

"... I don't follow."

"Think of it like this. There's a villain in a story. In fact, the villain is necessary for the story to even exist in the first place. The hero needs somebody to fight and be all heroic against." He gestures. "It's a short straw, but what's the alternative? Not existing in the first place?"
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>>23607331

He stands up, turning to walk away. "You're leaving?"

"Rin's about to notice you're gone. Probably be for the best if you don't tell them we had this talk." He hesitates, as he steps over the side to dive into the river. "By the way, about your girl problems? You should try getting advice from someone who knows how to handle that kind of situation." He smiles as he starts to fall. "Good talk. Maybe we have another soon, yeah?"

My phone starts to ring.

>Actions?

>Sorry about the delay, friend asked for my opinion over Skype.
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>>23607336

>AC-Guy has friends

The horror. Not one of us.

Check that its rin. Answer it i guess. Say we went to a public restroom or something.
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>>23607336
Answer the phone. If it's Rin, tell her we got distracted by a fuzzy thing. Or something.
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>>23607336
Continue shopping. Think aboot what to ask Lancer?
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>>23607369
er right, and check the phone
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>>23607331
>Are you familiar with Christian Theology? You know how there's God, and then there's Jesus? And how Jesus is God, not god, and God's Son kinda all at the same time?"

the cruel mistress that is western theology.
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>>23607336

If it's Rin, tell her we got distracted thinking about her pointing out the way we've been treating Caster.
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>>23607336
That was impressively helpful.

Shirou is a clone(?) of Avenger? His descendant, made flesh?

And Avenger wasn't responsible for th fuckup that ward 3rd Grail War. It was another cope or Avatar or Jouten or what-have-you.

>"Think of it like this. There's a villain in a story. In fact, the villain is necessary for the story to even exist in the first place. The hero needs somebody to fight and be all heroic against."

Oh, shit. Don't tell me we have to fight Pic Related before this is all over... because if we do, I'm scared.

>"By the way, about your girl problems? You should try getting advice from someone who knows how to handle that kind of situation."

So Avenger wants us to team up with Shiki?

I'mOkayWithThis.jpg

>Actions?
[X]Answer the phone.

"Emiya."
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>>23607397
Well, let's think about Shirou's ideal, To Save.
In order to save someone, they must first be in trouble. Every wish to aid in salvation is a wish that there is someone in danger of damnation. That is the crux of his ideal. And it gets far worse than that. In the end, the bitter truth is that you can't save everyone. In order for succeed, another must fail. For one to live, another must die. If there are two people fighting, both with a knife to the others' throat, in order to save one, than the other must lose their life. And even beyond that, there's always the math. Tell me, if the only way for you to save ten innocent lives is to end one innocent life with your bare hands, could you do it?
How about one hundred saved for the cost of ten?
A thousand for a hundred?
In the end, the price of salvation is a heavy coin to bear.

It's why Archer snapped, and decided it was better not to have existed at all than to have to live with it.
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I answer my phone. "Emiya."

"Shirou? Why did you take off running towards the temple?"

"I didn't. I followed what I thought was you in the direction of the bridge."

"... What?" She sounds confused, and then panicked. "Wait, are they trying to separate us?!?"

"Possibly." I respond with a sigh. "Look, we'll meet up at the Grocery store. Just stay where there's people and you'll be fine."

A few minutes later, I reunite with her and we do the shopping. We leave soon after, moving as quick as we can without drawing attention.

>Say anything on the way home?
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>>23607465
Hrm, we're keeping more and more secrets. Meetings with Archers and Avenger.
Bite us in the ass mayber?
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>>23607465
Ask her if, hypothetically, she'd be okay with sharing us with 3 other women.
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>>23607563
No. Do not do this.
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>>23607488
>Bite us in the ass maybe?
This this even a question?
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>>23607465
>>Say anything on the way home?
Maybe we should talk about having visions of a guy who calls us brother and may be an uber-chill version of Satan? I don't know, I'm starting to have doubts about Shirou's sanity.

Maybe we should own up to being jerks re: Caster & Souichirou, at least. Dammit, it's funny goading people into their happy endings, but it could make us blind to their suffering, too.

At the very least, being open with Rin that (1) Rider may end up killing us if Sakura's heart breaks and (2) We really care about all of the girls, quite a bit. I want to say 'especially her', but that's me being partial to Rin. Help Rin to realize we want to value all of the women in our life, and not end up hurting them.


If we can also work in our Satan-brother gave us excellent advice on this growing conflict, it might now be a bad idea.
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>>23607563

THAT IS A TERRIBLE PLAN!
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>>23607465
Ask if Rin has any other agenda in mind if she wanted to speak alone with Shirou.
It kinda seems off if it's just her venting out in making a mistake with the misuse of magic.
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>So what's the plan? This: >>23607588 >>23607597 ?
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>>23607588

>Maybe we should own up to being jerks re: Caster & Souichirou, at least. Dammit, it's funny goading people into their happy endings, but it could make us blind to their suffering, too.

Yes. This too. It's looking more like helping is an excuse to satisfy one's own ego than genuine concern. Leave the choices to the two lovebirds.
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>>23607563
>do this
>obtain Taiga Dojo

"I don't even have to explain where you went wrong. Just put the game down and go to bed."
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>>23607614

Minus the visions thing.
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>>23607640
You make me want it more

Seriously, if nothing else it will be worth it for Rin's reaction

Then, when she's about to kill us, blame Rider, because it's totally her fault anyway, she's the one who keeps mentioning these things. We just want everyone to be happy
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Oh yea, there is something that everyone seems to have forgotten, or I have missed something.

Caster is currently Saber's master, if Caster moves away Saber will have to move away. We should see if we can get Rin to become Saber's master. She's currently free.

No alter servants have appeared yet other then Diarmuid Alter. I wonder if Avenger is holding back or there is some thing stopping him from granting every 4th war servant Alter status.

The only difference between Diarmuid and the others is that he died while cursing everyone in the war.
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"I think you were right about the Caster thing."

"Hmm?" She turns to me as I continue.

"I don't think it was the wrong thing, but that probably wasn't the best way to do it." I sigh and shake my head. "I should probably apologize to her."

Rin smiles and nudges me. "At least your heart's in the right place." She sighs. "It's not like you're the only one to make those kinds of mistakes."

"Yeah. Speaking of romantic misadventures, Rider flat out told me that if I ended up really hurting Sakura she would kill me. Painfully." She gives me a concerned look. "Which I'd like to avoid."

"Dieing?"

"Hurting her. Hurting any of you, honestly." I frown. "The worst part is that I can't blame anything else for this turning into an emotional mess because I deliberately put the decision off. This was all me."

"Yes, how dare you be so charming." She responds blandly. She then gives me a look. "Not everything is your fault, you know."

"Mmmm. By the way, did you have something you wanted to talk about? I mean, purposefully dragging me away to go shopping, insisting that it would be cool with just us."

Rin turns crimson and looks away. "Yeah actually. But I changed my mind."

"You sure?"

"If I decide we should talk about it, it isn't something I should be hiding from everyone else." She shakes her head as we walk up to the front door. "I just don't feel like it would be right for us to keep secrets."

Saber helps us unpack the groceries, and tells us that Caster's apparently scouting around town for a new lair. Rider and Sakura went off to her room to talk about something, and Satsuki is still passed out from her ordeal in the guest room. Lancer said he'd be back with a status report around dinner.

No word from Arc, still.

>Actions?
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>>23607766
Where's Souichirou? With Caster?
Haven't really talked to him since awakening
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>>23607766
Right, this fucking does it, gather all the girls together, including Ayako, and SORT THIS SHIT OUT!
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>>23607766

Check in on sensei.

If we can convince him that it'll be in their best interest, his word will instantly convince caster.

Also, send a quick text to arc, ask her if shes alright and to just call us since she'll probably not really know how to use the phone.

...


WHERES ILYA.
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>>23607766

Will we ever get around to telling Ilya that Avenger wants her for something? Also, extra maid security.

If nothing else, sparring with Saber. Let's not repeat that embarrassing ordeal with Shinji.
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>>23607766
>>23607789

Yea, that is something. Where is Ilya, she doesn't have Cain looking after her anymore
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>>23607766

Damn, Rin.

Were you about to confess to Shirou? Then decided not to so as to not doom him?
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>>23607766
Should we mention to Sakura that Gil is hunting down her brother with a bow and arrow?
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>>23607812

Avenger did say not to talk about our frequent talks with the enemy.
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>>23607812

When she's finished her little private thing with Rider.

...Good god that sounds wrong, but is probably right knowing those two.
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>>23607822

So Rider connects to Sakura and Ayako, Sakura connects to Rin, Rin to Saber and the Saber to Rider if her plan works out.

Damn.

The harem might actually work.
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>>23606685
>>23606715
Thank fuck I'm not alone.
I really fucking hate how almost all of 4chan seems to be gay and pretends that everyone is like that.
I have come to the conclusion that being bi is the natural state of humanity and heterosexuals/homosexuals are both very rare.
I remember reading that it was considered weird to not like little boys in ancient cultures.

I consider porn to be a lot of hassle because I'm annoyed by seeing guys in it. But lesbian stuff just isn't good enough.
And futa always concentrates on cocks, instead of females being fucked by futa.

I also don't consider the idea of only having one partner in life to be something negative. But for some reason many guys seem to consider it a horror vision. Is there maybe two kinds of people, some that are inherently monogamous while others want to fuck around as much as possible?
I wish I could do a study on that. Might prevent a LOT of heartbreak to know that there's these two types of people - One kind could practice free love while the others could keep among themselves in long lasting relationships.
Unfortunately, just asking people in a study would cause everyone to lie.
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>>23607831
As long as they all end up with little Emiyas in them I'm happy
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>No word from Arc, still.
I think we should look into this. Arc may have just gone off for Ice Cream with Shinji after one-shotting a vampire, but you'd think she'd check back in.
>>23607822
>>23607812
It's sadistically delicious!

>>23607789
>Check in on sensei.
This seems sensible. I think he might be able to convince his lady love of why going turncoat might not be the wisest in this war.

>WHERES ILYA.
FFFFFFFFFFFFF-
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>"Think of it like this. There's a villain in a story. In fact, the villain is necessary for the story to even exist in the first place. The hero needs somebody to fight and be all heroic against." He gestures. "It's a short straw, but what's the alternative? Not existing in the first place?"

... so, Avenger is Deadpool?
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>>23607789

PANIC AND SEARCH FOR LITTLE SISTER.

If shes around we hug, mutter something about thought losing her then go find sensei.

Otherwise PANIC PANIC PANIC
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>>23607865
>>23607842
>>23607798
>>23607793
>>23607789

>Ilya isn't missing, she's just not currently doing anything of consequence.
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>>23607885

Phew.

Did we buy ice cream?

Bring Ice cream to ilya. Then go check in on sensei.
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>>23607885
So she's on standby?
Now I imagine her sitting at the desk and not even breathing.
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>>23607885

Oh lol.

Anyways, new action
>>23607766
I think we should plan out our next patrol.We need to check those ritual sites. What are the places that lie on the layline?
Its the church, the devastated area, the temple and somewhere else.
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>>23607885

>Being insufferably cute playing with Bevidere the 3rd is nothing of consequence

O-ok, AC-Guy...
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>>23607766
[x] >Talk with Ilya about our Relationship-Problems.

I mean, she is actually older sister and and family. So. I don`t know, maybe it will also make her kind of happy, that we trust her so much, that we talk about relationships.

Not that she ever had any BUUUUT, she still is the older one and might have some good advice for us.

If you can`t rely on your older sister, you can`t rely on anyone.
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We need to sort out our love lifee, it's starting to interfere with combat and the war

Gather everyone for a strategy meeting, discuss strategy, but also discuss how we appear to have unwittingly gathered a harem of girls all to capable of turning us to dust
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>>23607930

Too direct. It'll get us killed and make the table fucking uncomfortable.

We really really need that talk with Lancer first.
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>>23607930
>discuss strategy
How about talking about how we might be able to achieve a happy end?
Fuck, we've got people like Caster. She might very well know how to keep all the servants alive.
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>>23607939
Directness is becoming necessary, if we aren't direct, we risk this sort of thing coming up in combat and killing everyone
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>>23607930
>>23607930
>We need to sort out our love lifee,

I agree.

[x] Confess to Issei.

Finding out that we are gay would probably hurting our harem less then us choosing the wrong one.
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Does anyone know an IC reason to find Shiki?
Or who else might know how to handle women? Lancer?
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>>23607939
>We really really need that talk with Lancer first.
>Talking about Relationships with a Lancer
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>>23607885
Private dialogue then. Just as a quick heads up.
We don't want others (coughLancerCastercough) to learn that she may be a component to whatever Avenger is planning. They may just get it into their heads that she may be useful for their own plans.
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>>23607948

Not like this!

The likelyhood of it spirally out of control when someone embarrasses or pisses off Rin means she'll be using jewels and command seals!

The Rin points made Shirou slightly unhinged already. Whos to say what effect it'll have on her when shes already easily angered to using magic!

We'll lose the house at the very least!
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>>23607954
Talk to Arcuied about her love life?

Seriously, just asking everyone who's not a part of our unintentional harem about how to make things work may have to be our path. It would also allow us to learn some Tohno magic... possibly
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>>23607954

I think Ilya would be a good idea. She is quite insightful when it comes to people, at least she was in FSN and Heaven`s Feel Route.
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>>23607960

Lancer and caster just don't really get along.
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>>23607965
Well then, beforehand, we tell her what we're doing, promise it's for the best and that it's happening to help everyone in the war, and give her a hug while gently asking for just some cooperation when we know we don't really deserve any

It will put us in her debt, but, Rin loves having people in her debt, so much so that she may just refrain from blowing up the house just to hold us in her debt
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>relationship advice/therapy

Taiga! She's a teacher and relatively impartial, pretty much treated as family and will look out on behalf of Shirou's interest.

I mean, she might not go toe to toe with Rider, but when she loses her best meal ticket for something like jealousy and stuff, I dunno how she might react.

Alternately, Souichibro. He helped us last time right?
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>So is there anything resembling a consensus?
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>>23607967
How are we going to go about this?

Its it going to be like the pic?
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>>23608019
Yes, exactly
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>>23608018
We are going to discuss our love life, that much is certain, now it's a matter of deciding who with
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>>23608000
This reminds me... Doesn't she have an incredibly powerful magical weapon?
I wish Shirou knew that. Could help us make her less vulnerable.
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>>23608018
Ilya time.
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>>23608019

>WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE THIS MOVIE?!?
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>>23608018

(optional) Check in on little sister. See what shes doing (Ice cream, maybe?)

Check in on Souchirou-sensei and see how hes doing. We're gonna to try to convince him to make the alliance permanent.
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>>23608031
Never heard of it.
What's it about?
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>>23608000
>>23607981

Asking Taiga for big sister advice and Ilya for little sister advice strikes me a as good idea. they're fairly neutral parties in this, after all.
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>>23608032
And I'm still voting for at least mentioning the "Happy end" plan. Caster might be very valuable for that.
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>>23608038

I think you've got their mentality backwards.

And I honestly dont see how Taiga will be of any help.
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>>23608038
I'm still mildly annoyed that everyone's decided not to go for a Taiga route, but you're right, we should do that
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>>23608032

This.
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>>23608038
Actually, we really should see how Taiga's been coping since the thing at the Church.
So, Taiga and Ilya together?
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>>23608046
She's a teacher. She's probably go training in answering relationship questions from angsty, horny teenagers.
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>>23608032

We need to firm up the alliance. Check in on Souchirou sensei.
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>>23608059
Yes, I vote for this

Discuss many things with our two big sisters
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>>23608059

I don't think shes even in the house.

She'll still be in school.
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Seems like we want to talk to all non-harem characters.
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>>23608067
>She'll still be in school.
Our legs are augmented.
Distance is no issue.
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>>23608070
Let's go stop random people in the street and ask for their opinions!
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>>23608070
>Implying Souichiro-sensei isn't our harem
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>>23608062

Sure.

Which would be basically 'choose one' and how to deal with the fallout from teenagers.

Not servants or mages.
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>>23608032
>>23608018


Check in on sensei
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>>23608080

Well it can't hurt.
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>You haven't seen or heard from Taiga since she left with Ayako that one time.
>Souichirou is still asleep.
>Arc is unavailable.
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>>23608094
>Arc is unavailable.
Is her phone off?
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>>23608094

Well, talk to Ilya-nee-san then.
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>>23608094
GO FIND TAIGA

Then dragher along with us to discuss our rediculously complex romantic entaglements with her and Ilya

She'lll listen, and she will help, she's the one person in F/SN who's known Shirou the longest after all
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>>23608094

Phonecall to ayako and taiga to see how they're doing.
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>>23608094
That leaves just Ilya then.

I guess the rest will be around at dinner time (sans Arc). The relationship issue could be discussed then.
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>>23608106
>She'lll listen, and she will help, she's the one person in F/SN who's known Shirou the longest after all
You know, this is one of the stories where I feel like the protagonist has somehow been possessed.
You see it all the time - A dude with friends. Once shit goes down, these friends simply disappear unless they are caught up in the matter.
I would actually interact with my friends if crazy shit happened. I would likely talk to them more than I normally would, because the chance of losing them would be a lot more real.
I wouldn't cut them off from my life, except if I knew that I was dragging them into danger. But even then I'd tell them and maybe ask if they actually WANT to be dragged into it.

This Shirou knew Taiga all his life, but for the past few days he didn't give a fuck about her, despite her being caught up in all that same shit.
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>>23608133

Not giving a fuck about Taiga is a proud Fate tradition.
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>So you're going to talk to Ilya about relationship things?
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>>23608151

Looks like it.
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>>23608151
And feed her icecream.
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>>23608151
Yes
Maybe
No
The Bike
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>>23608161
>The Bike
Let's talk to the bike.
We have become more unhinged.
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>>23608151
AND try to contact Taiga

But if it's too hard, yes, Ilya alone
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>>23608161
>>23608169

Oh yea we should fix and bike and give it to Rider
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>>23608174
Rider is in the harem right?

Right?

Please?
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>>23608151
Yes
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>>23608151
No.
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>>23608186
Of course.

The Purple Posse is inseparable. A Package deal. Two-for-one.
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>>23608094
maybe
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>>23608151
Eh, I'll go with that.

I'd prefer to have more adults present along with Ilya's opinion on the relationship matter, though. For now, maybe a heads up about Avenger's plans with her would work. But tell her we'll talk some more by dinner.

Give Taiga a call too to come over for dinner and discussions.

Fridge Horror: Taiga didn't have breakfast at the Emiya house.
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>>23608151
Yes.
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>>23608151
And check in on Ayako/Taiga.
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>>23608204
Can you repeat that question?
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>>23608205
>Using Tropes
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>>23608218

I remember that hate that went around /tg/ when I pointed out that MGNQ is on the fanfic rec page.
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>>23608218
Fine, would "Horrifying Realization" work better for you?

Sage for non-contribution.
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>>23608233
I want to murder the entire tvtropes userbase.
It was actually quite good when it was entirely new.
Then they stopped adding content and became more and more biased and politically correct.
And then they deleted all content that they didn't like.
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>>23608233
No wonder. You are either too young or did miss all the >This trooper
-bullshit.

Even more annyong were people trying to shoehorn every little fucking things into Tropes so it would fit. It was like.. categorization of everything possible by autists for autists.
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>>23608255
It's a real shame, once upon a time it was a useful website

Also, you really should sage, this isn't on topic and we only have so many posts left before auto-sage
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I go find Ilya, who's currently relaxing in the room she's claimed with her Puppy. "Ever come up with a name?"

"I'm leaning towards Bedivere actually." She says with a smile. "I did some reading. Apparently he was actually very loyal, even up the point where his King died in front of him." She smiles, kinda sadly as she scratches him behind the ear. "Did you need something?"

"Actually, I was wondering if you had an opinion on... the situation with the girls."

"I think it's kinda crazy that you haven't hooked up with any of them yet. I mean... there's nothing WRONG with you, is there?"

"No, not that I'm aware of." I sit down. "It's just... I wanted to put off those kinds of decisions to avoid distracting people or hurting anyone, but...."

"Mounting sexual tension is starting to worry you?" I give her a look. "I'm not as young as I look, you know."

"No, I kinda figured that out already." I sigh. "Yes basically. Now I'm in an awkward place. I don't know how I COULD pick one without hurting everyone else. I'm not even sure who I'd pick if I had to right now."

"But you feel like you should, because everyone's starting to wonder and you're worrying about the distractions." She smiles and shakes her head. "You're going to get yourself killed running around trying to solve everything."

"Well... what do you think I should do?"

"Nothing."

"Nothing?"

"Exactly. You're not going to gain ground, and forcing the issue now isn't going to help. The proper time to be asking these sorts of questions were when this started, or after it's all over."

"... Alright, but what about them?" I gesture to the rest of the house, to where the various girls are located."

"I'll deal with it." She says with a confidant smile. "I can't pick for you, but I'm pretty sure I can keep the situation from imploding until you make a choice. It's just a matter of distracting them from the distraction.

Not sure I like the sound of that.

[ ] Trust Ilya.
[ ] Find another option.
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>>23608294
>[ ] Trust Ilya?
>[X] Trust Ilya.
But say "Not sure I like the sound of that"
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>>23608294
>[x] Trust Ilya.

Running romantic interference.

that's what little sisters are for.
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>>23608294

>[x] Trust Ilya.

"Alright, but give Taiga a heads up with whatever you're planning."

Family shenanigans are the best.
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>>23608294
[X] Trust Ilya

Don't be a pussy, she seems legit this time.
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>I'm calling it a night on my end.

>What are the odds this thread will live to tomorrow?
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>>23608294
Does Ilya want us for herself?
... nah.
[x] Trust Ilya.
>>23608344
We're at 264 posts already, so fairly low.
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>>23608294
[x] Trust Ilya
[x] Give our Nee-san a hug.
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>>23608294

Not completely sure i like the sound of that. That will remove the option for mana replenishment.

Lets leave our options open. Will it have adverse effects?
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>>23608386

If we absolutely need that, we just need to get everyone so drunk they won't remember it in the morning.
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>>23608386

I wonder if it means the harem capture plan wont be able to advance either.

Not exactly the advice i was looking for either.
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>>23608386
We get blood in a non-lewd way from Ilya. She's practically made of magic, so that shit should be potent.
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>>23608419

Didnt ac guy already shoot that plan down?
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Oh fuck, is this archived?
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>>23608685

Oh, archive, is this fucked?
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>>23608702

Fucked archive, is this oh?
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WAIT. WAIT WAIT WAIT. We've all been assuming that we're the clone/descendant/whatever of Avenger. But what if he's OUR clone/descendent/whatever. We don't know for certain if he existed before this war; our evidence is circumstantial at best, and we were found at the scene of the grail's eruption. Or worse...

What if we're Verg Avesta?

A weapon that heals through transferring damage to others, thus creating a need to be saved.
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>>23609075
Oh goddamnit that would explain so much.
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>>23609131

No Shirou, you are the Noble Phantasm.
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>>23609484
And then Shirou was a servant.
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>>23609529

>implying he was never a servant
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>>23608685
>>23608702
>>23608746
You deserve to be raped.
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>>23610022

Raped, you deserve to be.
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>>23609075
>>23609131

Actually, I have another idea. Remember that Avenger said he sort of worked for someone else? Do you also remember that the wizard in our dreams told us that this war shouldn't be so fucked up, because he interfered with it?

What if Zelretch made a copy of the original Avenger and threw it in this war to guarantee victory for this world's Shirou? It would explain why Avenger's change in behavior when he meets Shirou alone.
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>>23610471

So...you're saying that there are two Avengers? Because hey, the original Avenger was STILL ANGRA MAINYU. Worst help ever.
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>>23610537
>So...you're saying that there are two Avengers?

Zelretch can travel between parallel worlds, so yes. Maybe Zel saw F/HA and wanted to make his own version of it. I don't know what his motives might be yet, only what might have happened.
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>>23610588

We're still not sure that this is Zeltrech, are we? I remember that somebody suggested Merlin as another possibility. In regards to the 2x Avenger thought, wouldn't we have seen some sign of it before? I can't imagine another servant not being noticed when we're canvassing the city practically every day.
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>>23610625
I am basing my theory based on what Avenger said today:

>"So what about the third war?"

>"Wasn't me."

>"... What?"

>"... Trying to think of a good way to explain it. Are you familiar with Christian Theology? You know how there's God, and then there's Jesus? And how Jesus is God, not god, and God's Son kinda all at the same time?" He makes some vague hand gestures to accompany his explanation. I just nod along, pretending it makes sense.

>"So you're working for someone else?"

>"Kinda? I mean, I don't HAVE to, but I sorta have to."

This is the part in particular led me to believe that Avenger was kinda forced in taking part in this war.

>"... I don't follow."

>"Think of it like this. There's a villain in a story. In fact, the villain is necessary for the story to even exist in the first place. The hero needs somebody to fight and be all heroic against." He gestures. "It's a short straw, but what's the alternative? Not existing in the first place?"

The "not existing" line in particular makes me think that someone either created or revived Avenger for some reason.
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Dammit, I finally finish reading the entire archive and now the thread is finished.

Oh well, there's always next time, I suppose. Although I did notice some things that we haven't acted on yet:

-Way back in Thread 16, when we were trapped in the church, we looked around a bit and found Kirei's diary. These passages stood out to me:
>Then he starts speaking of a robed man, demanding payment for saving him. He claims to not recall anything but laughter, but woke the next day to discover one of the children dead.
>Then, the man returned around a week before the war started to 'clean up after himself' and Kirei apparently asked him why he was doing this, and what his plans were.
>The only response was that it was 'For his brother's sake'.

We know of one guy who has a brother and a connection to the end of the previous grail war, and I'm fairly certain we never asked Kirei about this. We should.

-Before going out to Shinji in the woods, we told Rin about it. Then when we called her, she doesn't remember us telling her about it. This could mean she's just stressed out, but we've already confirmed there are multiple shapeshifters in this war. There might still be an impostor in our house.
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>>23612430
>-Before going out to Shinji in the woods, we told Rin about it. Then when we called her, she doesn't remember us telling her about it. This could mean she's just stressed out, but we've already confirmed there are multiple shapeshifters in this war. There might still be an impostor in our house.

We're fine bro, the extract you're referring to, in order:
>"Rin?" I tell her, knocking on the door. "Stepping out for a minute. Shouldn't be gone for too long."
>"Eh? She responds, distracted. "What's going on?"
>"I figured I'd go talk to Shinji, if he's really in the woods."
>"Be careful." She responds, somewhat distant.

"somewhat distant"

Followed by
>A moment later, I get a call.
>"Shirou? What is this I'm looking at? And where are you?"
>"[Blah]"
>".... Wait, when did you leave? Why are you alone?"
>"I told you I was going, and it's not like I can take a servant into the anti-magic forest."
>".... Wait, when did you tell me you were leaving?"
>"Right before Sakura and Rider went to talk to you about something." I respond confused. "You don't remember?"
>"NO!" She yells, suddenly... flustered?

Rider and Sakura
"...flustered?"

And finally:
>Sakura gives me a mildly concerned look [...] turning away with a blush.
>"Alright, did I miss something?" I ask, looking between the sisters. "Did something happen while I was gone? Is there a cold going around? Is that why Sakura's face is red?"
>They both look at me, and then each other before looking away. "Nothing you need to be worried about." Rin declares calmly, slight blush appearing on her face. Sakura nods frantically a few times, but otherwise doesn't respond. Rider walks in behind Rin and makes a gesture seemingly asking me to follow her.
>[follow Rider]
>"You're wondering why they were acting so weird." Not a question, but i nod anyway. "When Rin was working on some sort of tracking spell for you, she accidentally discovered a new spell."
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>>23607960
The whole children dig was really a dick move by lancer
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>>23615910

We need to figure out how to give everyone the D.
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Bump. Hopefully, AC-Guy comes back soon.
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"Not sure I like the sound of that."

"We could keep using your methods. I am mildly curious as to how many women you could attract before the situation implodes violently."

".... Promise me you'll tell me if you're going to do anything drastic."

"Of course." She responds with a nod. "Though I'm not sure it'll come to that. I'm not running them off, just stabilizing." She then gives the puppy another scratch as he looks at her. "Did you want to talk about anything else while things are quiet?"

[ ] Yes, (topic).
[ ] No.
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>>23621214
[x] Yes,
"If you're not as young as you look, how old are you?"
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>>23621214
[X] Ask her "What do you plan on doing once the war is over?"

Need to ask.
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>>23621214

>[x] Yes, (topic).

"Avenger apparently needs you for his entire 'Master Plan'."

Ask if she needs a Servant to watch over her, or need extra security.
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>>23621246
>>23621270
these

Oh, and seeing as AC-guy is continuing in this thread, I'm going to delete the link to the 29th verse that I put up when the thread "ended." If the thread is alive 11 hours from now (Ha!) I'll put the new-new link up.
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>>23621214

[x] Actually... What do think of the...'everyone choice'...
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>>23621214
[x] Yes
These:
>>23621246
>>23621270
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>>23621309

Ask her.

See if she'll give her blessing. Since her only idea was that shirou MIGHT choose one. NOT ALL.
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>>23621214
Yes

Ask if, considering that she's older than she looks, she's capable of bearing children. Not ours, but some other lucky lads
GO FULL SHIROU! NO TACT AT ALL!
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"I suspect Avenger wants you for something. Probably information. Do you think we should take additional security measures?"

"Not really. I'm not planning on going anywhere without you or a Servant of some kind." She shrugs. "If I was ever left here all alone I might be concerned, but I don't think it will be an issue."

"Alright." I hesitate. "I'm curious. What do you think you're going to do when the war's over?"

Ilya stops idly petting her dog and looks at me as though genuinely confused by the question. "..... I'm not sure. Nothing about my life's ever really been considered important except my role here."

"... Really?"

"I've never really even been aware of a choice, actually." She looks away, lost in thought. "Due to the way my body is, I'm not sure I'll ever have a normal life. Maybe..... maybe stay here with you? Or at least in town."

"You're family. You're always welcome here." I tell her, and she smiles. Then something she said registers. "Wait, what do you mean about your body?"

She gives me a look. ".... Well, for one I'm not exactly human. I'm a Homunculus, an artificial human. Or mostly Homunculus anyway, apparently I was born... differently from the normal method. Something about the magic circuits given to me and my creation stunted my growth. I'm actually about as old as you. Maybe older."

"... So you stopped growing at some point?"

"I'm not sure it completely stopped. I've gotten a few inches, but nothing like I should have." She sighs. "I'm not sure if that means I'll never grow up at all, or just at an exceptionally slow rate. I'm not even sure I'll live long enough to find out." She shakes her head. "Sorry, Onii-chan. I'm not really sure about the details."

".... It's a lot to take in." I say weakly, trying to make sense of it.

"Don't worry about it, there's more important things going on." She smiles again. "Look at it this way, with the soul concerns and everything. You're at least as human as I am."

>Anything else?
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>>23621587
Looks like we have another subject to bring up with Caster. For now let's work on the bike.
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>>23621587

Ask about her tentative thoughts on the harem option.
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>>23621587
>You're at least as human as I am.
*snif* I'm misting up a bit.

I feel a little emboldened about this, actually. Illya's given Shirou a sweep and (according to her) he's NOT a demon. Handy little tidbit of info.

>>23621553
I now have a weird urge to ship her with shota-Gilgamesh.

>>23621587
Does Illya have any knowledge of Kotomine? If we can trust him, if there's something about his personal history the Einzeberns know of, etc
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>>23621587
Bike. We defy it's wrath.

Either that or Train a bit more with Saber. We should practice our combat body reinforcement a bit more, I think.
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>>23621667

Shota-Gil, IF we can get him to change into, would be excellent suitor for her.

>>23621587

CALL TAIGA.

AND AYAKO.

Check in on them, make sure they're ok.
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>>23621622
I have a feeling the harem option would only work if we made no mention of it at all. The more we bring it up, chances are the less likely everyone else will go along with it.
Rider and/or Rin might be steering things that way anyway, why ruin their hard work?
>>23621669
I support training with Saber. It's been a while since we've done that. Or at least it's felt like a while since we did that.
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>>23621669
Some sparring or stealth training might not be a bad idea. Shirou has had some SPOTTY sneaking history, to say the least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maWwTT8Q9TI
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>>23621711

>CALL TAIGA.
>AND AYAKO.

Oh god, taiga's been absent for awhile.

CALL
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>>23621726

>I was actually hoping you were linking this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv-sKP17xTw

>It's pretty much the first thing that came to mind on the nat 1 sneak.
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>>23621726
"I will have to use stealth instead" said Shirou and jumped in the broken window screaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJg6Duzzf4
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>>23621587

>>23621711
Invite Taiga over the phone for dinner later and relationship discussions. It's not like her to miss out on a free meal.

>>23621669
>>23621726
If there's nothing else to tell Ilya, some combat training with Saber may be in order.

>A question about combat mechanics.
I notice that whenever the dice decides to screw with us in combat (sometimes even in SWORDS, which Shirou is supposed to be better at), other options tend to follow to give us a chance, so to speak.

Does this mean it might be better to have multiple types of combat skills (unarmed>reinforcement>SWORDS>running away) to get more chances, and thus less likely to get the short end of a roll?

Or would training in one combat skill lessen the numbers or eliminate rolling entirely (but still depends on the type of enemy)?
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>>23621711
I think checking on these two might be a good idea.

Training can wait. We've probably triggered some fairly serious 'family abduction' events inadvertently, didn't we?

>>23621711
He's rich, he's quite sweet (as a kid), and he's age-appropriate. Provided we could charm him into some Binding Oath, and we'd have little big sister set up for life!

I've been reading a lot of Exalted-inspired fluff like Lunar Quest & Keychain of Creation - there's nothing like using Social Charms to make someone pledge to a Divine Oath which can't be broken without invoking the gods' wrath, is there?

>>23621759
Ha ha! I could totally see Shirou do that. I'm SNEAKING!

>>23621767
Gilbert & Suillivan never fails to bring a smile to my face.

Ye gods, I'd love to see a FSN musical/opera done by G&S. It'd be a wonderful marriage of terrible and excellent!
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>>23621844
Somebody wanna rewrite "I've got a little list" for Gilgamesh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOY_R5XIJ8
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I tell her that I didn't need anything else right now.

She leaves to talk to the other girls, and suddenly I have a thought.

Taiga should be home by now. I give her a call.

It rings for a while, and then patches through to voice-mail.

Concerned, I give another call, and get nothing. Not even an answering machine.

I call Issei. He answers on the second ring. "Shirou? Did something happen?"

"No. At least I hope not. Have you seen Taiga today?"

"... Yeah? She had someone take over after lunch to deal with a family thing." He hesitates. "She told me you called her and she went to your house." I can't bring myself to say anything, as my mind races through the implications. "Shirou? Is this bad? Should I tell Archer or something?"

>What do?
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>>23621714
>I have a feeling the harem option would only work if we made no mention of it at all.

fully agree with this gentleman/trap
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>>23621886
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of filthy little mongrels who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs —
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs —
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat —
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed!

Seriously, "society offenders" to "filthy little mongrels" is the only thing that needs changed.
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>>23621961

"Pass the word to him, yes and watch out for Ayako and yourself. I'll try to find her on my end as well."

Time to summon YAKUZA BOSS
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>>23621961
Do we have an SOS type thing set up? round up our allies and tell them to comb the hills to look for taiga?
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>>23621961
Hoo~ boy.
Tell Issei to inform Archer, but remain on standby for now.

>deal with a family thing.
Give Raiga a phonecall first to confirm if it's a family matter.
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>>23621961
[x] panic
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>>23622006

Taiga's mug is here, probably lots of leftover hair or something and there some be some of her personal effects.

SUMMON RIN. Use Taiga's personal effects to track her location.
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>>23621961
"Yes."
Also, call Caster and ask her to keep an eye out.
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>>23621961
>>23622001
We need to inform Archer that he needs to get in touch. "A protean antagonist stalks!"

Fuck shapeshifters.

We should then inform Raiga. Get some intel, and prepare for fallout.

On an unrelated note: how IS Archer sustaining himself without Rin supplying prana? Hot Issei buttsecks?
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>>23622084

He licks the prana off issei in his sleep
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>>23622105

Independent Action, I assume.
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>>23622084
>and prepare for fallout.

By which, I hope, means that this time we will be smart enough to break out the gun cupboard And pack some heat when we run off to investigate.
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>>23622084
>>23622156
He's also double dealing with Avenger.
Where Avenger gets his own prana source, I have no idea.
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>>23622156
Nah, its only rank B, so he only has 2 days. The has to be getting some from somewhere
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>>23622205

He is the bone of his issei Route?
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I sigh, sinking feeling in my gut and call Raiga.

"Shirou?" He says after one of his underlings passes the phone along. "What's going on?"

"Nothing much. I was just wondering if you're seen Taiga recently."

"Not since last week when she mentioned your seizure." He responds. "Why? Did you need to talk to her?"

"It's nothing urgent." The lie comes easily. "I just hadn't seen her the last couple days and normally she's here for breakfast."

"Maybe she's finally grown out of mooching food." He comments jokingly. "Anything else you needed?"

"Nah, I know your busy." We exchange a few more pleasantries before I hang up the phone.

I stare at my phone, trying to formulate a plan.

"Hey Shirou?" Rin's voice snaps me out of it. "Ilya's asking about our-" She hesitates as she sees my face. "Is something wrong?"

>Actions?
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>>23621587
>"I'm not sure it completely stopped. I've gotten a few inches, but nothing like I should have."

XD
also this bike is an eyesore.
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>>23622328
I need you to scry Taiga's location. As soon as possible.
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>>23622328
Tell her!

We must rescue Taiga! Taiga is our top priority! Nothing is more important than our sisters! Gather our allies, then head out to kick ass and take names! Now!
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>>23622084
The same way he lasted 4 days in UBW without a master, during which he cast UBW 2-3 times, stabbed by Shirou, turned into a pincushion by Gilgamesh while saving Shirou, brought a storm of blades down onto the grail to give Rin and Shinji a path out of the grail, cast Rho Aias to save Shirou before he used UBW himself, and then killing Gilgamesh with one of TA's Dark daggers.
>>23622205
If B ranked Independence Action lasts two days before the Servant disappears, would they get some kind of invisible bonus for being summoned in the same time period that they're from? IIRC, part of a Master's job is to act as an anchor to keep the Servant in the present drifting/disappearing to their own era. If the Servant is from the era they are summoned at to begin with, then wouldn't they be able to last much longer without a master?
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>>23622328
>"Nah, I know your busy."
not too busy for grammar though, huh?
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>>23622328

THIS: >>23622050 SCRY SCRY SCRY
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>>23622364

>.... I'm honestly shocked I missed that. Like holy fuck do I have a tumor or something?
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>>23622328

>>23622345
This. Cooperate with Caster for maximum efficiency. This is Souchirou's fellow school teacher, so that might be motivation enough.

Then load out on stuff needed for a search. Phone, a flare, maybe a flashlight if it gets too dark out...
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>>23622383
It..it's not like I care about your writing, idiot!
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>>23622383
That's always how it begins.
It started with me a few years ago and now I'm constantly fucking up any words that sound phonetically similar.
Maybe it's caused by too much multitasking. A friend of mine, who recently became a teacher, has the same issue and it seems to be getting worse.
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>>23622328
"Tiaga's missing. Raiga hasn't seen her, and Issei said she left to come here when 'I' called her after lunch."
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>>23622406
Did you just steal my gimmick?!
Back off you fucking tramp, AC-Guy is MINE to be tsundere towards!
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>>23622453

>1600x1200

>I was NOT ready for that when I scrolled over it.
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>>23622453
sounds like someone's going from a tsun- to a yan-
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>>23622470

Be thankful it wasn't a gif.
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>>23622539
You mean like this one?
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"Taiga's apparently missing. Raiga hasn't seen her, and Issei said she left to come here after I called her."

"... But you didn't call her."

"Nope." I put my phone away. "I'm grabbing my coat. Can you try and get a tracking spell of some sort going?"

"Yeah, right now. Is there anything to use as a focus?"

"She has a spare set of clothing or two here, just in case in one of the guest rooms." I inform her as I run to the front door. Sakura gives me a surprised look as I pass by, Rider merely falls into step.

"Something happening?"

"Might have to go rescue someone."

"Again?" She asks surprised. "Is this normal for you?"

"For a grail war, or in general? Because the last week or so hasn't been normal at all."

"Point."

We get out the door, and Rin follows us with a piece of cloth tied up in a tight bundle. "Here, if you focus on this, it should lead us to her. you're closer to her, you'll probably have a stronger bond."

I nod,taking it from her. Then hesitate. "I-is... Is this a pair of Taiga's-"

"I needed something small and didn't want to rip up a shirt or something."

[DC15 Magic means staying focused]
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Rolled 20

>>23622582
Dice, don't fail me now.
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Rolled 3

>>23622582
PANTY POWERS
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>>23622590

aaand, I think we're done here.
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>>23622582

>...if thats what i think it is...

AC-Guy pls
pls AC-Guy
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Rolled 7

>>23622582
Let's find this tiger.
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>>23622582

We didn't bring a gun, did we. We didn't bring a damned gun. Again.
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>>23622590
PANTSU POWERS ACTIVATE
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>>23622612

To be fair, unless SHINJI has kidnapped her, it will be fairly pointless.
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Calling it now, we've got a vampire Taiga on our hands.
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>>23622620
Those dragon tooth minions caster summoned died to a reinforced stick.

If someone's packing minions of similar caliber, a sidearm would let us deal with them at range without wasting mana.
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>>23622620

Not that I'd put it past him. But he's probably busy being eaten by vampires or somethi-

>>23622636

FUCK!
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>Guys we haven't seen Ilya for a while I'm getting worried
>ACGuy: "Oh yeah she's just around. Not doing anything."
>Oh okay. What about Taiga?
>ACGuy: "She's been kidnapped."
asdjskfgdsjd
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>>23622590

>BLOODHOUND SHIROU
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>>23622658
sounds about right, really.
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>>23622620

Fine. But let's agree on this:

If we have to fight an endboss in that damned cavern; we are damn well going to open up with kiritsugu's hotel special.

By which I mean we collapse the damned thing with C4.
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>>23622658

>To be fair, Taiga's been absent for a while, Ilya was unobserved from a single roll-call.

>>23622590

>Fucking 20s
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>>23622690

Oh absolutely. Boom is more widely applicable than firearms.
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>>23622690

>That cavern

GUYS.

I KNOW WHERE AVENGER'S SECRET BASE IS.
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>>23622705

No shit. It's kinda obvious. Shirou doesn't know shit though.
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I refuse to even acknowledge what I'm holding as I use it to focus on Taiga.

"East. Across the river."

Rin nods, and we head out at a solid pace. We cross the bridge, and head into town. Our route takes us closer and closer to the port. If it's not there, it's close.

[DC15 Perception]
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Rolled 16

>>23622890
panties, lead us to your master
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Rolled 9

>>23622890
Eyes of steel give me strength.
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Rolled 7

>>23622890
Let's try again!
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Rolled 13

>>23622890

Sniff and breath deeply.
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Rolled 7

>>23622894

Panties obviously gain some sort of bonus.

For maximum minmax, we need to wear a pair over his head
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>>23622894
i believe it is clear now that panties are the anti-bike

captcha: searching ,tagers

. . .
it knows.
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>>23622911
Well it worked for Homura. Speaking of which, does anyone have the whole image?
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>>23623026
This? http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/4617
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>>23623055
That's it. Saw the whole thing posted as a single (long) pic in a thread on /a/ last year. Gets me every time.
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I reach out unconsciously, and grab the arrow out of the air. judging by the angle, it would've hit me in the knee.

"Impressive." Gilgamesh comments from his perch in a nearby tree. "I might not be able to use my full strength with this simple instrument, but you've got impressive reflexes to catch it. I thought such a thing was beyond a Mongrel like you."

"... So why are you here?"

"Attempting to kill my minion and rescue a vampire!" He responds cheerfully. "Or maybe the other way around. We'll see how I feel when I catch up to them."

"So the vampire's nearby too?"

"Too? You weren't after them?" Gil asks confused. "Oh well. Stay out of my way and I'll spare you this time. Unless of course, you'd like a repeat of our fight in the forest."

He the skips away through the trees, in the direction of the docks.

Rin looks between our impromptu dowsing device and the direction it's pointing in. The same path Gilgamesh took.

>Actions?
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Rolled 18

>>23623098

Well if we follow behind him, we're technically not in his way.

[x] Follow
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>>23623098

Motherfucker!

Pursue!
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>>23623098
After him. With a traced bow of our own.
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>>23623098
wait- Gil's the Archer who went and bought the bow and arrow? Double archers is getting really confusing
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>>23623098
Call Arc. Ask if she's still tailing the vampire.

If Taiga, Shinji and the vampire are all in the same place anyway, we'll be able to coordinate our actions/rescue.

Keep following that dowsing device's directions, but keep your distance from Gil.
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>>23623162

EMIYA already HAS a bow. He can just trace it.
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>>23623098
Pray that Taiga isn't anywhere near the vampire and that Gilgamesh is dicking around here because he can't track for shit.

Then keep going.

Also guys, you know who we should have talked to about the harem problems? Archer. He is us (mostly). He survived his time in the middle of the horde.
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>>23623141
THIS
Let's do bow combat.
Can we turn invisible?
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>>23623098
Call for bac--
>Caster is looking for a new sanctuary
>Saber is keeping everyone home safe
>Berserker is AWOL
>Archer is a dick
>Lancer won't help with the Vampire
>Wouldn't trust True Assassin/Zouken if our life depended on it
>Already have Rider with us

[X] Call Arc, then Pursue.

>>23623182
He's from UBW, he only had to deal with Rin.
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>>23623098
Give chase, Comment on Gil's un-kingly weapon choice
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>>23623141
YES. We shall make it a contest!
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>>23623199
>He's from UBW, he only had to deal with Rin.
He's actually from none of the routes actually in the VN. Popular theories include Ilya route, Issei route, and Fate/Unlimited Codes Shirou Arcade route.
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Rolled 9

>>23623182

Nah, pray that Taiga isn;t the vampire
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>>23623197
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUBX0NLCZEE
The life of an archer.
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>>23623222
I know, but AC-guy confirmed that he's from UBW in F/SA in the commentary he made of the insane theory pastebin.

From http://pastebin.com/BwhREMG6:
>Eighteenth Verse-1
>{Confronting Heroic Spirit EMIYA}
>>Of course, when I was you, we did this next to Ilya's grave in the hollowed remains of her mansion."
>Archer is from UBW route here, or some morbid Ilya route where she dies half way through.
>[That's been pretty obvious I thought. It'd be more accurate to say that this Archer's past most resembles UBW because of the high level of accumulated Rin-Points.]
>>
>Internet's fucking with me. I'm gonna go reset my router.
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>>23623222
I thought he was closest to being from the Fate route? But yeah, AC-Guy said earlier that Archer's backstory was affected by the Rin points we've racked up. Didn't see that until after I made my post. I suppose you could argue that our Archer remembers UBW because our timeline is "behind" that one and Archer does have some memories of his Grail War summonses, but that's meta as hell and AC-Guy probably would add that to the crazy theory pile.

>>23623224
Fuck, I was trying not to think about that.
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>>23623279
Even if she is, we won't kill her

We can never kill our big sister, we'll just have to help her somehow

I propose giving vampire Taiga the almighty healing dick
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>>23623274
Fucking Assassins in this thread. Pic probably unrelated.

>>23623303
She'd bite it off and drink our lifeblood from it. You could say she's a... boner killer. YYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH!
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>>23623326
I would do blasphemous sexual acts to Jack the Loli.
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>>23623326
>dose hips
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>>23623338
>>23623415
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1BtExxkP0M
Sums up my feelings on the matter quite nicely. Except not in the past tense.
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>>23623326
You don't get it, the point is we can't kill Taiga

If she's a vampire, we catch her, defend her, and try all we can to heal her, if she isn't, we rescue the fuck out of her.

I refuse to allow Taiga to die, not her of all people. Taiga will not die while her little bro still breathes
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>>23623462
But there's no cure for vampirism. AFAIK, Sion never found a cure for it.
If we tried to keep Taiga, Kirei would be forced to kill her. If we tried to defend her, Kirei will kill us as well, saying "He's a Demon AND he's protecting a vampire! I STILL Have the moral high ground I had 10+ threads ago!"
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>>23623516

Kirei can go to hell. Noone is killing Taiga.
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>>23623516
I can accept that

Convincing Kirei isn't the important part, the important part is convincing Arc.

Besides, we may, at some point in the future, have a sheath capable of healing fucking anything
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>>23623516
Didn't she cure it after the turned into Dust of Osiris?
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>>23623516

That would just be Kirei being a dickbag. He's been ignoring ZOUKEN for long enough. A man who, I will remind you, is officially considered a vampire by the church.
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>>23623552
>A man who, I will remind you, is officially considered a vampire by the church.
I really want to know what the Nasuverse definition of a vampire is.
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Rolled 1

>>23623552

They ignore because they can't do shit against someone who makes physics, time and magic his bitch.

Like how they ignore Arc.
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>>23623536
Did she? I don't know Melty Blood very well and I didn't recall reading on the wiki that she cured it, or anything in BTW waying she cured it (then again, Non-canon and it takes place before... Actress Again I think?)
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>>23623560

Something that consumes the life of others.

They mostly just don't give a shit about Zouken because he siphons a couple people every few decades, and there are Dead Apostle Ancestors running around eating cities.
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>>23623585
Now I want to see Alex Mercer in the setting.
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>>23623590

>I'd give him a week before Arc/Shiki caught up to him.

>Regeneration doesn't to much good when you can be thrown into the sun, or stabbed in the metaphorical core of your existence.
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>>23623607
Would they even care as long as he only munches a few people per week?
It's not like he likes murder. That would be the dude from the second game.

Then again, I dunno how he would interact with magic. What happens if he accidentally eats a magician?
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>>23623607
Well Iunno, I think it could be put TO good use, but it might not DO much good.

That said it depends entirely on whether this is evolved!Mercer from the first game or dickbag Mercer from 2.
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>>23623617

Shit gets real.
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>>23623617
>>23623625
It's entirely dependent on whether he can integrate their magic circuits into his own system. If he can shit gets realer than real and he probably gets an invite to join the Dead Apostle Ancestors.
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>>23623620
>dickbag Mercer from 2.
I'd say that's an entirely different character.
Fuck Acitivision.
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I keep walking, while pulling out my phone and dialing a number.

"Shirou?" Arcueid's voice answers.

"I have a lead on the Vampire's location."

"Where?"

"Docks, north side of town by the river. Reason to suspect he has hostages."

"Not a concern." She answers calmly. "I'm on my way."

"... What do you mean 'not a concern'?"

"I mean I'm going to kill the vampire." She responds. "Hostages are mostly irreverent collateral unless they're needed for some grand scheme or killing them would lead to some sort of massive collateral damage."

"What if I know the people he's holding hostage?"

"Make sure they aren't in my way when I get there." She hangs up the phone, and I start running towards the docks.

"You're dangerously close to being in my way!" Gilgamesh taunts from up ahead.

[DC15 combat check]
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Rolled 15

>>23623659
Not now Gil!
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Rolled 16

>>23623659

Fuuuuu
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>>23623652
Wouldn't that basically be a magical singularity?
He would achieve everything that all magicians have dreamed off. They would probably willingly get themselves eaten so that their knowledge can live on.
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Rolled 19

>>23623659
I am the boner of my dice.
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Rolled 10

>>23623659
Should we tell him we have a big gun coming in to kill the vampire?
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Rolled 16

>>23623682
>>23623683
>>23623685

Does 3 successes count for anything?
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>>23623617

>Someone would care. Church would go after him, then the Burial agency. After he geeks enough Executors/mages in self defense, someone like one of the Brunestuds brings the hammer down HARD.

>The time of 'needs to die' on Arc's list would come about a million times faster if he could absorb magical power like >>23623652 suggested.

>>23623653

>Never played two. Was it really that bad?
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>>23623682
>>23623683
>>23623685
I'm seeing it now:
We trace a bunch of bows, which shoot autonomically while floating above us.
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>>23623710
>Never played two. Was it really that bad?
From what I know, the gameplay is actually quite good.
However, they made Alex a Sephiroth wannabe who lost faith in humanity because he fell in love with a human girl in a comic that bridges the two games.
The he talks shit about "evolution" and all kinds of stuff and somehow gets defeated by the retard nigger who should be quite a lot weaker than him.
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>>23623728
>he talks shit about "evolution"
Lemme guess, the writers, like all writers desperately trying to make their shit seem deep, have no grasp on how evolution actually works?
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I summon the swords with virtually no effort and swat the hail of arrows aside. He's a good shot, but his rain is nothing compared to what he could summon from his gate.

"Hmmm.... Perhaps the bow was too much of a handicap." Gilgamesh muses from somewhere above. "Oh well, time to move on." He races further ahead, in the trees.

I try to match his pace, mentally anticipating Arcueid's rapid approach somewhere behind us.

[DC15 Magecraft]
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>>23623741
No, they transformed him into a rambling retard who considers humanity inferior and wants to infect everyone or something.
It was simply balls to the walls crazy. There was no attempt at anything here - The writers didn't even try.
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>>23623710
Gameplay is fine. Plot and characters are awful.
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>>23623775

Ac-Guy.. Why so many checccccks
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Rolled 6

>>23623775

Screw you, Gilgamesh! We don't have time for your crap!
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>>23623775
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Rolled 11

>>23623780
>>23623775
I think he's just waiting for us to fail
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Rolled 5

>>23623780
He wants us to botch one.

>>23623775
That said, rolling.
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>>23623775
oh gods
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>>23623780
>>23623789
>>23623794

I hope you're happy.
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>>23623775

Let's beat the king of heroes

We deserve this victory
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Let Gil and Arc entangle themselves with one another. Saving Taiga takes precedence.
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>>23623796

>I'm an impartial storyteller. Dice are just assigned to tasks that have a chance of failure with an appropriate percentage of chance.
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>>23623741
To be fair, neither does Mercer, I expect.
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>>23623684
Some would, plenty wouldn't. Like I said, he'd be counted as a DAA at that point, and he'd immediately have followers and enemies. It'd probably get really bad really fast. Like, "cities disappearing overnight" bad.


Re: Check fails: Fuck, Shirou, do you even hero?
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>>23623821

Mercer ate a lot of biologists and doctors in the first game, and should really know better.
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My focus isn't in it, and I stumble. Rider helps me steady myself as she carries Rin catching up.

Gilgamesh pulls ahead and I lose him. As we reach the docks, I feel a sudden shock like a bucket of ice water got dumped on me.

"Bounded Field." I say aloud as the other two step forward.

"The Vampire's?" Rider asks.

"No way to tell." Rin responds.

Someone's warded the docks. When I check the charm Rin made for Taiga, I see that it's limp and inactive. Apparently the field blocks tracking spells? Odd.

>Actions?
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>>23623826
Not that the writers would ever be able to properly portray such a being, though.
I would fucking love to see a kickass cutscene with him doing unaugmented close combat due to the centuries of combat experience that he gained from eating all these people.
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>>23623888
>Mercer noms a tank crew
>the Commander was a bit of a history buff
>Mercer can now quote Panzers in the Mud from memory
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>>23623887

Ask Rin to check for human lifesigns.
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>>23623913
Imagine the scientific advances that he can create just by connecting the minds of the scientists that he ate.
Not to mention the kind of knowledge he gained about biology.
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>>23623887
Hmm...

Magic hacking the Bounded Field may take time we do not have.

Manually searching might not garner much progress, and splitting up to search would definitely make the team vulnerable.

Ask Rider to take to the air for visual or use Rin's familiars (unless this field probably blocks that too).
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>>23623887
Rule Breaker the ground.
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>>23623948

Ah yes.

Rule Breaker the bounded field.
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>>23623927
Iàmagine all the weirdass porn that's now in his memory.
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>>23623948
>>23623952
This.
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>>23623955
He could make a fortune simply by filling the demand for weirdass porn.
He could be as many people as he wants at once. He could be a tentacle monsters that is fucks a girl that is also him.
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>>23623887
[x] panic
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>>23623956
Very clever, I agree
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>>23623888
>>23623913
>>23623927
>>23623955
>>23623963

/tg/ wholly encapsulated in merely five posts.
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>>23623947
>>23623948
>>23623952

Ruuurrruuu Breeeiiiikkkaaahhhh

Always a good decision
>>
>Rule Breaker only works if you have something to stab. Like an anchor or something.
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>>23624058
Well then lets find the anchor.
>we're at the docks
Shouldn't be hard.
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>>23624058
Once we summon it, we will know exactly how it works.
That will give us a hint as to how to stab it.
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>>23624058
Er... Plan B.

Find highest point in the docks.
If we can't get an instant location of Taiga, then surely Gil will be hanging out there.
Keep Rule Breaker on hand just in case.

I'll bet they're in a ship, a container, or a container on a ship. Fuck.
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>>23624076

>I fail to see how knowing it won't really work will improve your situation.
>>
Can't we summon sword minions?
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>>23623887
Go high. Into the sky.

We fly.

(See, this is where a gun would be handy. We shoot randomly and make noise until the vampire comes after *us*)
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>>23624177

>Shoot gun, attract vampire.

And the cops.
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>>23624177
>>23624185
>Attracting vampire

We could try... bleeding?
I have no idea anymore.
>>
I look around for a better vantage point. I see a crane nearby, it's a good place to start.

[DC12 Athletics]
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Rolled 8

>>23624199
We have Rider!
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Rolled 14

>>23624199
>>
Rolled 11

>>23624199
FUCK THE POLICE!
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Rolled 7

>>23624199
LET'S DO THE SPIDERMAN
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Rolled 13

>>23624199
wjere is out fucking bike?
>>
>>23624216
If I recall correctly, the essential mechanical parts parts should arrive tomorrow, in-game time. Otherwise, currently out of commission.
>>
The climb is actually fairly easy. The better vantage point gives a solid lay of the land, but I'm struggling to find clues.

[DC15 Perception]
>>
Rolled 13

>>23624311
What do your Reinforced eyes see?
>>
Rolled 7

>>23624311
My vision is augmented
>>
>Searching for a Vampire

Let's ask Rider if she smells blood.
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Rolled 5

>>23624311

PERCEPTION!
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Rolled 19

>>23624311
you guys suck.
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>>23624320
>>23624328
>>23624333

Damnit! Blood sniffing Rider or Bounded Field hacking it is.

Another hindsight. Infrared goggles courtesy of Dad.
>>
No obvious clues, and the clock is already ticking.

No sign of Gilgamesh either. I'm not sure if that's a bad thing yet.

I quickly climb back down, and look at Rin, who seems to have called in a pair of familiars to help scour the area.

"Rider, do you smell anything?"

"Like what?"

"Like blood." Rin gives me a weird look, but Rider zones out and seems to be focusing on something. "Faint, but it's there. What made you think?"

"Vampire eat people and drink blood, right? I figured the smell would rub off on them."

She nods, and we start moving in the direction of the smell. Soon she starts picking up the pace as the scent gets clearer.

Soon, we see a small building, not much more than a shed with the door ripped off it's hinges. Rider confirms that it's where the trail leads. As we arrive, I hear a noise close by. Someone else coming.

...Arcueid, maybe?

>Actions?
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>>23624475
Project a weapon and remain on guard to protect Rin.
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>>23624475
Trace K&S, just in case.
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>>23624512
Bah, I derped with the abbreviation.

K&B. Kanshou and Bakuya, if it still wasn't clear.
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>>23624475
Summon conceptual pistol.

Be ready to blast anything hostile.
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Rolled 13

>>23624475
DYNAMIC ENTRY
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>>23624475
Project sword, speeddial Taga's mobile.

Follow the undoubtedly-embarrassing ringtone.
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>>23624475
Blow a hole in the shed roof with a copy NP.
Sunlight bothers vamp (though won't probably help as much) and instant interior lighting.

Debris and shrapnel could be a problem though.

Also, if we ever see Lancer again, berate him for a real bang up job on scouting the area.
He's probably in cahoots with the villains.
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I call the swords to my hands, and relax slightly when I feel the weight.

I creep closer to the door, maybe I can get a better look at the situation before having to act.

[DC14 Covert Ops]
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Rolled 13

>>23624571
Sneaking again?
>>
Rolled 67, 34 = 101

>>23624571

We need a MGs callsign for this shit.
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Rolled 5

>>23624582

Bam. Shirou sucks at stealth, let's see how Rushing Leopard does.
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Rolled 47, 31 = 78

>>23624586

Rushing Leopard apparently sucks.

Perhaps a better codename?
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>>23624590

>Fighter Tiger

You know what? Maybe this plan isn't great.
>>
Rolled 7

>>23624571

>Sneak

Set sail for fail.
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Rolled 15

>>23624571
WITH CATLIKE THREAD
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>>23624608
Thank you!

>>23624582
>>23624590
The hell?

>>23624586
Thank goodness this wasn't linked to >>23624571
>>
I slowly step forward, and peek through the doorway.

I see Taiga, apparently asleep in the arms of the vampire. Shinji's laying on his side, not daring to move with his hands still bound.

They're both watching some European woman with red hair holding a short-staff with glowing runes in one hand, the other clutching at a obvious wound it her side. Judging by her complexion, she's lost a bit of blood holding the stalemate.

Her arm quivers slightly, and the vampire smiles.

>Actions?
>>
>>23624664
Do we have arrowlike Black Keys (or hell, any Holy blade)? SHOOT THE VAMP!
>>
>>23624664
Shoot the vampire in the face with conceptual bow. Use the most magical project we have that WON'T explode.
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>>23624664
Do we know any holy swords from the UBW or from Gil's treasure? Project them and shoot them!
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>>23624674
>>23624677
>>23624691

>Shoot artifact.

How about we use the conceptual gun and pull a quick double-tap before he can do anything? It might not kill him, but if he drops Taiga the girl (possibly Bazzet) can blast him.
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>>23624705
So, doulbe-tap and them bumrush him? I like this plan.
>>
>Alright, sorry to do this guys, but I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. I'm ending it here for now.

>I'll post on twitter when I do the next thread. Later guys, hope you had fun.
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>>23624776
Always a hoot.
Next time on Fate/Stay Again, Bazzet falls for Shirou. Or reveals she's already fallen for Lancer.
Either way, happy fun times!
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>>23624776
Alright. Participation was kinda slowing down anyway.

Won't really be a surprise when you wake up the next day, check the archives and find more crackpot theories and insane plans that just get shelved from this point onwards.
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>>23624814
It will be a surprise, seeing as we're already on page 9.
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>>23624664
I vote we step into the room. Make ourselves obvious.
"Hi. I don't know who either of you are. But that doesn't matter. You see, what matters here is who she (Taiga) is. And who I am.
You see, you have just made me incredibly angry.
And I am the bone of my sword."
[Project UBW]
"Step away from Fuji-nee."
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>>23624914
>You see, you have just made me incredibly angry.
>And I am the bone of my sword."

That's awesome.
>>
>>23624821
Well, I could start the ball rolling...

Based on Avenger's motivations, I think he wants a Hero to get him out of his shtick as "All the Evils of the World". (He mentioned, "We'll make a hero out of you yet.")
The dude needed a selfless martyr to shoulder the burden.
Enter one young Shirou Emiya who may have all these qualifications after the Fuyuki fire. Kiritsugu's wish, Shirou's wish, and hell maybe even include Avenger's wish all tried to balance one another.

Result is a compromise between these wishes, where one cannot be fulfilled if it entails breaking the wish of another.

Kiritsugu wished for someone to be alive in the fire. (He got Shirou; may also explain why he cannot die even when killed.)
Shirou wished he'd gain the same satisfaction Kiritsugu had when he was rescued. (Selfless heroics syndrome; jury's still out on whether the "fulfilling part" of every heroic action is granted -Rider did mention that Shirou seemed empty...)
Avenger MAY have wished for someone to save him. (He's molding Shirou for that role.)
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>>23625006

>The Theological Metaphor clue

This is a bit of a doozy. Feel free to correct both the theology and Nasuverse lore.

In this quest, if Jesus=Avenger then perhaps God=Great Grail. Except this "God" is surely malevolent and grants only destruction (Zouken mentioned the Grail might be birthed into a malevolent god.)

Like how Big G can't really manifest to mortals in true form lest He burn our eyes from His brilliance, the Great Grail can't manifest long without the World trying to "correct" itself into normalcy again.

So I'm guessing the Great Grail needed a representative in the mortal world. Avenger was probably pressed for the job or he tried to wheedle a deal with it, but actually has a personal agenda. Maybe it's to splinter away from the Grail, before someone else BREAKS the Grail to pieces.

As for what he said that he wasn't the same Avenger from the 3rd War, I dunno what to make of that. Maybe this Avenger is just a manifestation of his "good" personality that managed to break off.
Here's a thought, if Heroic Servants swallowed by the shadow gets spat out as Alter-Servants, what about non-heroic Servants then?

For now that's all I got. Feel free to add.
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>>23625011

>As for what he said that he wasn't the same Avenger from the 3rd War, I dunno what to make of that.

Throwing ideas to see what sticks:
What happens when a Servant dies and is returned to the Throne of Heroes?
I remember something along the lines of that the Servant itself is only a splinter representation of the Hero's soul.
And that after the war, that particular splinter is simply dissolved or absorbed into the Grail, not sent back to the original Hero.

Then.... Hence, if that same Hero was summoned into a new Grail War, the new splinter Servant would have no knowledge of a prior war, because the Hero has no knowledge of anything that happened to the Servant that is never returned.

So I'm picturing it kinda this way:
3rd Avenger, Jesus Mark I, summoned into the war. Gets himself grailified. Turns Great Grail into Seihai-kun.
5th Avenger, Jesus Mark II. He could either be a new summoning of Angry Manjew, or he could be a Servant version of Seihai-kun. Either way, he's not Jesus Mark I.
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>>23624664
Running jump at the vampire while yelling "Obvious distraction!" Hopefully the magus will use this moment to attack the vamp failing that Rider should be able to get the hostages.
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>>23625345
>I see Taiga, apparently asleep in the arms of the vampire.

Reckon jumping at the vamp will increase or decrease the chances they'll snap Taiga's neck on a whim?
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>>23625381
>>23625345

>Flying kick.
>Miss.
>We kill Taiga.
>>
So Lancer's Master being holed up at the docks would explain why he was telling everyone to ignore it.

Possibly why Kirei had an interest in the area?
>>
>>23623590
>>23623607
>>23623617
>>23623620
>>23623684

That fanfic already exists, and it's excllence. A writer gets that the Nasuverse's schtick for grandstanding heroes doesn't always jive with modern military tactics. Hilarity (and suffering) ensues

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/1870-Maybe-I-m-a-Lion-%28KnK-Prototype-Crossover%29
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>>23624664
>Her arm quivers slightly, and the vampire smiles.

The European Woman's arms, or Taiga's arms?

What does the vampire look like? Is he/she/it standing/sitting hanging upside down?

Also: Tied up Shinji? Ha ha! Time for humiliation!



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