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Previously on Blatant Fetish Quest, our protagonist, Max Power, learned that 'he' was actually a female with male genitalia, as a result of having an incubus as a father. Three years later, Max, now fit and a martial artist, flew to Romania to enroll at the prestigious Scholomance, a school for magic meeting Liz, your new girlfriend, on the way. On arriving in Romania, you learned that the Scholomance is extremely deadly and that only half of each class proceeds to the next grade each year.

You joined the Lotus prestige society, befriended Dane and Lin, other Lotuses. Upon arriving at the Scholomance, a city-sized school hidden in a cave that's bigger on the inside, you discovered a tower and found an incubus who's probably your father chained up in the basement.

You're currently trying to balance Dextra Domini, rivals, commitments to your society, relationships, and studying while trying to survive. You're about a month and a half in. Your custom-built beast won the quiz and Liz made it into the Society of the Archmagi. Your dryad hatched and your mommy-instincts kicked into high gear. You were just nearly taken out by a mysterious attacker.

You just finished showering off after breaking in a new ally to keep around the tower.

What do you do now?
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Study alchemy. Three dots would help our self augmentation nicely.
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>>23594300
I'll agree with this, Alchemy is always useful.
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>>23594300
Thirded
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>>23594254
I have a question Femcock, what exactly does gaining more blocks in the magic skills? Do we only gain extra rolls or do we unlock the ability to do more powerfull magic each time we gain a new block?
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>>23594373
Don't forget being able to keep casting longer, thanks to the drain mechanics. I think that's the main advantage of more blocks really.
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>>23594373
More drain, larger dice pools, and less need to research unusual applications of magic, like the spell you're building for Selene.
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You get your book on Alchemy and curl up in a chair in the sitting room to do some studying.

Roll Mind to study Alchemy. You get a +1 from Focus, so I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.
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Rolled 85

>>23594461
Studying.
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Rolled 36

>>23594461
We're waiting for Lunch to clean herself up, right?
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Rolled 8

>>23594461
rolling
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>>23594444
That seems underwhelming, does that mean that even Max can summon a part of the sun if she had a fuckload of foci?
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Rolled 31

>>23594461
>>23594461
Time for alchemy.
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>>23594491
Yes. Preparation can and will consistently beat skill. Skilled preparation, in turn, beats unskilled preparation.
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>>23594507
Suddenly I don't really care about studying.

Can we focus on making foci for everything then?
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>>23594561
I find this sudden change of heart amusing.
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>>23594507
Hey Femcock, if you keep up the daily questing for another six days, you'll have broken the current record of 35 days of consecutive questing, currently held by AC-Guy from Armored Core Quest.
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>>23594561
May I suggest finally building a healing drain mitigation focus.
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Did we leave Liz in the dungeon with Lunch or did she come with us?
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>>23594561
I dont think just making perminant foci for eveything is as practical because a focus can only be used for a specific type of spell and has its own additional cooldown period while having a whole skill point in a specif school gives an extra dice roll and another opertunity to cast a spell in that school. for foci to overshadow actual skill you would need to have atleast 1 point in each school and be decked the fuck out with perminant foci for each typ of spell and fuckloads of drain mitifgation foci all for the spesific spell type. also a pure skill roll could go from 5 to 4 to 3 ect. while foci could go from however much foci could posibly be on your person to 0, meening you could be gaurenteed a sucessful cast but only once untill its all recharged. So we need to balance the skills and the perma foci otherwise we risk being out of available times we can cast and having a low roll pool. Atleast this is how I think it works
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>>23594469
You get some studying in on Alchemy, making a bit of progress in your training. You're interrupted, though, by someone clearing their throat. You find Lunch standing there, looking embarrassed, her hood up, and trying to pull her hoodie down over her crotch in the front. "Excuse me?" she asks. "Mistress? I'm ready to be introduced. Like you said I could be."

What do you do now?
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>>23594671
Which is why we got the tattoos. Each character in them becomes a permanent focus, some to boost effect, some to relieve strain.
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>>23594671
>be decked the fuck out with perminant foci for each typ of spell and fuckloads of drain mitifgation foci all for the spesific spell type.
I'm pretty sure archmages do this. And being able to do this easily is why we have tattoos.

P.S. Get an English spellchecker.
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>>23594684
Smile at her, nod, and go take her on a tour.

Be sure to introduce Breakfast as her new sister.
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>>23594684
Well, time for introductions then. I hope Selene's playing horse again
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Rolled 93

>>23594684
No reason to not be polite.
Kindly show her around, introduce her to people as we come across them.
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>>23594684
Right then, time to show off our new toy.
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>>23594700
Seconded. Oh, and can we get Breakfast some clothes now?
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>>23594721
I'd support getting her a collar, but clothes is going to far.
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>>23594739
We certainly can't get her a collar before we get Liz one. Plus, I want to dress one of our meals up as a maid.
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You give her a smile and a nod. "Let's get you introduced, then. We'll start with Breakfast and Gaviscon," you say, walking over to where they're curled up in the corner. You stir Breakfast awake, and she sits up, rubs her eyes, and gives you a nuzzle. "Breakfast, this is your new sister, Lunch. Lunch, this is your sister Breakfast."

"Sister?" asks Breakfast, tilting her head.

"I don't think I have a sister," Lunch says cautiously.

What do you do?
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>>23594765
Desert.
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>>23594858
"You do now."
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>>23594858

"think of each other as very distant relatives, you'll be living together from now on. now be good and introduce yourselves."
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>>23594739
We also need to deign her and Breakfast's tats so we can bind permanent scrying wards to our pets i suggest we have Liz design a collar tat for them. I like a collar for 3 reasons.
1 a real collar hides it.
2 it is fairly hard to remove without major injury or life threatening accident.
3 it shows there place.
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>>23594951
Putting tats on them is going to be a lot more unfeasible. Sure, we can get the gear, but no one here really knows how to use it.
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>>23594858
you are both my pets that makes you sisters but in a more adopted sense.
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>>23594858
"Don't be mean to Breakfast. Apologize and give your sister a hug."
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>>23594858
"You're sisters now, that's all that matters." to Breakfast, "It means she's family. It means she's the same as you."
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>>23594970
When we got lunch we decided we needed to put a tat on her. So that we could make a magic item out of it. So that if the tower wards ever fell her family could not find her. I know doing the tat is hard but Liz is an artist. The warding tat on our pets can be very simple so i am sure she can do it. We may want to by some raw pork bellies for her to practice on first though.
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>>23594909
I'd feel more confident if maid didn't consistently get second place in almost every discussion about this.
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>>23594858
"It's more of a metaphorical sense of sisterhood. Your bond may not be blood, but there should be a sense of comradery."
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>>23595004
+1
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>>23595004
this is the best way i have heard yet
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"You may not have been sisters before, but you are now," you insist to them. You turn to Breakfast. "It means that she's family. She's the same as you."

"Miau?" asks Breakfast as she inches up to Lunch to get a good look at her. Lunch bushes and tries to cover her face.

"Lunch, don't be mean to Breakfast," you tell her. "Apologize and give your sister a hug."

"S... Sorry, Breakfast," says Lunch, then gives Breakfast a tentative hug. Breakfast hugs her back excitedly, then gives her a hard kiss with lots of tongue. Lunch gets a panicked look in her eyes and tries to pull away.

What do you do?
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>>23595150
Let it resolve.
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>>23595150
Might want to tell Breakfast to back off her for a while, at least until the whole overshame thing wears off a bit.
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>>23595199
"Breakfast, Lunch is not allowed to kiss or have sex with anyone without permission. Please remember that."
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>>23595150
Sorry about that Lunch, it's just Breakfasts way. It means she likes you!
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>>23595238
this
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>>23595150
Lunch, return your sisters kiss.
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>>23595238
>not allowed to kiss
I don't know, that seems a bit over the top. As long as she's not aloud to get off it should be fine, right?
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>>23595150
Let them work it out themselves.
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>>23595288
you are right we should phrase it as make out then hat gets my support >>23595274 was a little hasty

(part of this is to make lunch feel more comfortable and have Breakfast tone her sexing down on her (but nit stop).
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After the introductions (lets see dad last) get her detubed.
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>>23595417
we dont want her to hear that part but yes
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You decide to see how this plays out. Breakfast starts getting handsy, reaching up into Lunch's hoodie to fondle her. Lunch is protesting and struggling, but she's clearly stronger than Breakfast and could easily escape if she so chose. She whines and whimpers as Breakfast starts slowly fingering her, Breakfast licking away at her neck.

"N... No... Please stop..." says Lunch pitifully, though it's clear she doesn't want it to. Breakfast, though, immediately stops and steps away.

"Did I do bad?" she ask. She has a concerned and guilty look on her face.

"Yes!" says Lunch breathily, trying to straighten herself back out. "You're too lewd! Especially to a sister!"

Breakfast looks like she's about to cry, looking back and forth between you and Lunch.

What do you do?
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>>23595150
Sit back and watch.
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>>23595238
I don't know, it seems like a good way for breakfast to get to know her.
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>>23595517
Laugh, "Don't take it personally Breakfast, she says that to everyone. But even if she says she doesn't like it, she likes it. Just look at her pussy."
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>>23595517
Poor Breakfast, go comfort her and assure her that she isn't bad, and that Lunch is just having trouble getting adjusted to life here.
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>>23595517
"It's OK, Breakfast, she's just too embarrassed to admit what she really wants. Do you know where Gaviscon is right now?"
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>>23595545
seconding this.
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>>23595517
"You did fine Breakfast, Lunch in just easily flustered, you have to be slower with her."
"Lunch, apologize and kiss breakfast."
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>>23595517
now lunch that's not nice you can choose to not play those games with breakfast but shes not a bad girl for starting. (to Breakfast) I'm proud of you for stopping right away when she asked but you weren't a bad girl to start.
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>>23595545
this
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>>23595672
agreed
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>>23595517
It's ok Breakfast, Lunch is really shy and get embarrassed easily. But it's good that you stopped when she asked, good girl.

Lunch, even though your sister is a little bit forward and, well, a bit lewd by your standards, she's a really sweet and sensitive girl. You you're about to make cry...Try to be nice to her, ok?
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>>23595238
Better yet, Lunch is allowed to kiss, but she cant be kissed unless she initiates.
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>>23595592
Really, you want to start Breakfast's rape near flashbacks again?
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>>23595713
>>23595672
I like this as part of it but we should still tell her ti was good she stopped when asked and tell lunch that she can say no but that she can also say yes. I dont want to order her to go it but i will teas her till she begs for it like a good girl.
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>>23595753
Um, no. If anything that would be happen if we said this
>>23595545
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>>23595723
this is good all it could use more clear approval of there .
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>>23595802
*there intimacy.
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"It's okay, Breakfast," you say, patting her head. "Lunch just gets embarrassed really easily. You did the right thing by backing off when she asked you to."

Breakfast looks relieved and purrs as you pet her.

"As for you, though," you say, turning to Lunch. "It's fine to ask her to stop, but she was just trying to show her affection for you, and she stopped when you asked her to. Even if she's lewd, she didn't do anything wrong, and you almost made her cry. Apologize."

Lunch looks shocked and ashamed. "I... I'm sorry, Breakfast..." she says, hanging her head. "I didn't mean to make you sad..."

Breakfast gives her a big hug and a somewhat-more-chaste kiss on the cheek. "Thanks, Lunch," she says, already back to being happy and sweet. "You're my sister now. I love you."

"I, uh..." says Lunch, clearly feeling embarrassed and awkward. "I love you too, Breakfast?"

Breakfast just purrs and rubs her face against Lunch. "Oh, meet Gaviscon!" says Breakfast, pulling her over to where he's curled up. He perks his head up and looks around, then comes over to look at Lunch. "He's my best friend! He's nice and he's warm!"

Lunch tentatively pets Gaviscon, who appears to enjoy it. She smiles and pets him more, apparently relieved to find something both nice and not-lewd. "This is his cock!" declares Breakfast, holding up his big dildo. "It goes on right there. It feels so good!"

"That's much too lewd!" yells Lunch, covering her face again.

What do you do now?
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>>23595723
Gonna third this.
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>>23595824
THEIR
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>>23595845
"Lunch, you have a new order. You are not allowed to use Gaviscon's cock unless you ask someone for permission first."
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>>23595845
>"That's much too lewd!" yells Lunch
Well, this is getting obnoxious.

Just chuckle and go take her to see Lin.
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>>23595845
Just snort and lead to down to Lin or Dad.
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>>23595845
Laugh a bit and take her to meet the others.

"Going to bring Lunch to meet everyone else, you want to come along Breakfast?
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>>23595845
Laugh as hard as possible.
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>>23595845
"If you want to use it, you have to ask permission first."

Then continue with the tour.
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>>23595845

"Imagine what it would feel like my dear little Lunch, Gaviscon has a tendency to keep going for a loooong time. but, you are not permitted unless you have my permission." while running a finger along her lower back.

and then off to meet Lin!
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>>23595845
>yells Lunch
And now I'm too busy laughing to contribute anything useful...
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>>23595845
"Breakfast is right, it feels really good, but you can't use it unless you ask me first."

Then on to Lin or Dad.
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>>23595845
Yeah, just tell her she can't use it without permission.

>>23595874
I agree. It seems like everything in our tower is too lewd for her. Which is to be expected honestly, but it does make the introductions a bit grating. At least we got the lewdest except maybe Dad out of the way first.

>>23595904
>you are not permitted unless you have my permission
That's a wee bit redundant.
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>>23595845
Take her to see Lin. Dad is last stop.

Wen we get to Dad tell lunch that she's going to spend a lot of time helping him with whatever magic work he needs, and that she should always listen to him.

Then detubing.

Her 'too lewd' outbursts are the worst. I want to strike them from memory, Word style.
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>>23595874
>>"That's much too lewd!" yells Lunch
>Well, this is getting obnoxious.

She's a foreigner. Maybe teach her other words?
ALso, this is your punishment for not talking to her first or at least ATTEMPTING diplomacy.
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All this 'without my permission' stuff is going to bite us in the ass when she interrupts our meditation for something.

She's already interrupted our alchemy study.
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>>23595930
No, we want to see her face when we walk in on her experimenting with Gav.
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>>23595988
>this is your punishment for not talking to her first or at least ATTEMPTING diplomacy.

When? Before or after she shot us full of horse tranquilizers in a failed kidnapping?
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>>23595988
I don't know, so far the fallout's been pretty entertaining.
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>>23595995
Easy: "Don't interrupt meditation". And "Liz can give you permission if I'm not available".

>>23595963
We should be careful with wording, I want her to be able to disobey other people (rather than being compelled to obey through brain re-wiring as with us) so that we have a reason to punish her sometimes.
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>>23596014
After, obviously. Mindraping her to not betray us was necessary, mindraping her into an embarrassed slut who doesn't remember her old life was just for fun.
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>>23596046
You cannot honestly be stupid enough to think letting her remember her old life would have been a good idea.

As for the embarrassed bit, that'll wear off in a couple of weeks.
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"You can try it out sometime if you want," you tell her. "Ask permission first, and Breakfast can help you out with it."

"It's sooo nice," says Breakfast, giving her a sweet smile. She just blushes and shakes her head, covering her face with her hands.

"Let's go meet Lin," you say. "Come on, Lunch." You start leading her down the ladder. Your last view of Breakfast is of her starting to attach the dildo to its socket, a silly grin on her face. You find Lin in the kitchen trying to cook up some dinner for herself and doing a terrible job of it. She burned something and it all looks unappetizing.

"Hey, she's safe to be out and about now?" asks Lin.

How do you introduce Lunch?
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>>23596133
Lunch this is another member of our family, Lin.

Lin, this is Lunch.
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>>23596133
yes she is a good little slut now Lunch this is Lin you should listen to her and not interrupt her or I when we are meditating.
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>>23596133
"Lunch wanted to meet everyone." "This is Lin."

And now we wait for another outburst when she sees a dick-shaped carrot in the soup.
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>>23596133
Force Lunch to introduce herself.
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>>23596133
Also, while introducing her, take over cooking something up for Lin.
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>>23596133

"i could ask you the same about that food."
"everything should be fine for now."
"Lunch, go on and introduce yourself."
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>>23596225
this.
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>>23596133
I wonder if Lunch can cook. We should ask her that, and if she can then cooking for everyone will be one of her duties.
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>>23596133
If and only if Lin's introduction goes smoothly (I.e. no outbursts of "lewd!") do we tell Lunch that Lin is probably the lewdest person in the house by far.

"Yep. Now Lunch this is Lin, listen to her and be nice to her. Lin, Lunch why dont you introduce yourself?"

"Yeah, she is a little shy and tends to overreact when embarrassed, but I'm sure it will pass. Lunch, try to be a good girl around Lin and don't annoy her too much, ok?"
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>>23596192
agreed
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>>23596192
Huh, yeah, this might be necessary. Unless Lunch apparently retained some culinary skills.
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>>23596507
I sure hope Liz didn't mess with skill-related memories.
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>>23596689
There's also a big chance that many of them got eaten by the {REDACTED} mind virus.
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"I could ask the same of your cooking," you say. "Move over, I'll cook. Unless you know how to cook, Lunch?"

"I... I think I do," she says, taking over for Lin. "You're Lin, right?"

"Yes, I am. And your name is Lunch, right?" asks Lin in a nice tone.

"I... Yes? That's what Liz and Mistress told me. Is there anything that either of you want me to make?"

What do you say?
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>>23596784
I'd think we should finish introducing her first.
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>>23596784
surprise me.
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>>23596784
Tell her to take a look at the ingredients and think about it for a bit.

She can cook something after she sees dad if she still wants to.
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>>23596784

"nothing in particular comes to mind." just let her think about it while we finish up and introduce her to dad.
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>>23596784
"Look at the ingredients we have available, try to pleasantly surprise us with something good.

By the way, Lunch, you are to obey Lin's orders.

Lin, Lunch is a slutty girl you can use as you wish, she may act shy and embarrassed, but she loves it."
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>>23596784
i want to see if Lin'll gow down on her while she cooks
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On the next time skip are we only going to get 3 activities again like before we augmented less sleep or are we going to get 4+?
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>>23596784
"Surprise us."

As Lunch cooks introduce her to Lin, let her know that she should listen to Lin's orders. Grope Lunch's ass as she cooks and tease her, make sure Lin knows about Lunch being a shy embarrassed girl despite being a slut.
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>>23596784
i know we have reduced the amount of sleep we need each day could we also increase the time we need between sleep cycles?
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>>23597079
You could actually stay up significantly longer if you slept for more than two hours per day, if you chose to follow that method instead.
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>>23597127
These methods are mutually exclusive?
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>>23597127
So we could sleep for a long time and then meditate for a long time?
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>>23597149
Dude, it's just how sleep works. If you get ten good hours of sleep at night you can pull an all-nighter the next day more easily than if you'd only gotten the normal eight. Thus, if we go and sleep for, say, three hours instead of two, we'll wake up as well rested as a normal person would after twelve hours of sleep.
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>>23597228
It's pretty difficult to sleep more than your usual amount though. You tend to, you know, wake up.

Also, eight hours of sleep isn't normal, if it's normal for you you're not getting enough. Ten is what you should be at.
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>>23597285
Actually 7 hours of sleep is normal, 10 is for teenagers.
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>>23597405
Max IS a teenager, dimwit.
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>>23597437
Oh, yeah. Guess all the fucking is making me not think of her as one.
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>>23597405
True, but we can easily make up for any lack in sleep by Draining Lunch or Breakfast.
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>>23597457
Personally, it serves to remind me that she -is- a teenager, the way that out-of-control drinking is something I've come to associate more with minors than adults.
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"Make whatever you feel like making," you tell her. "So, Lin, this is Lunch. She's a filthy little slut, but likes to pretend like she isn't. She's loyal to us and depends on us, don't you, Lunch?" you ask her.

She blushes, but nods. "Yes... Yes, Mistress..."

"Good. And this is Lin. She's a friend and you're to follow her orders too. She's smart, cool, and just as big of a slut as you."

"Nice to meet you..." says Lunch, a whimper and a quaver to her voice.

"So, what do you like to do for fun?" asks Lin.

"Um... Free running, I guess," says Lunch. "Martial arts. Watching movies too, maybe?"

Huh, her hobbies look a lot like yours. What do you say?
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>>23597540

looks like we have something in common.
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>>23597540
It's like she's a clone of us, only Asian, and not a dick girl.
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>>23597540
Ask what sort of movies she likes, I guess we could also spar with her sometimes, she'll like that, and it will be good practice for us.
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>>23597540
Holy shit, we captured our double!
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>>23597540
>Free running

I know your game. You want a "let her out of the tower vs keep her in the tower" shit storm.

Maybe we can set up an obstacle course parkour area thing in a pocket dimension room thing with conjuration eventually.
Won't be the same as free running, but it would probably be fun.

Martial arts sounds good though. We can spar with her to help max out body.

Ask her about what movies she likes and then go see dad.
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>>23597593
We'll quickly grow way beyond her abilities thanks to our self-improvement though, so she'd likely only be useful for sparring with for a few months at most. (I won't say at ''best', because at best, we'll become too strong to spar with her as quickly as possible.)
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>>23597540
Gently pet Lunch, paying special attention to caressing the back of her neck.

"Those are good hobbies Lunch, I actually am interested in free running and martial arts as well.

These hobbies have kept you in very good shape Lunch, this makes your Mistress very happy.

What styles of martial arts do you practice?"
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>>23597627
Agree, we are only letting her out if we have successfully used living alchemy to make her untraceable by her family or anyone else looking for her. That isn't likely to happen any time soon.
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>>23597637
We should have her teach Liz ninjitsu.
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>>23597540
Well we may have to spar some time then..
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Is there a point where we'll have enough durability to have small guns and darts and the like not matter at all, nullifying enemy rolls that rely on them?

Or could we have +10 durability, skin harder than diamonds, and still get taken down by small arms fire in a string of ridiculous rolls?
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>>23597540
grab both arms from behind as if feeling for muscle, make an off-hand comment about finding use for a sparring dummy, then grind against her just a little and whisper something about not being Too hard on her, at least not with punches?

>too lewd

makes plenty of sense, we Did trail her across roofs and walls and whatnot the first time, when we were thankfully smart enough to stay outside. Elsewise we might be Her training dummy instead.

Hmm.. magic-marker 'tattoos' used for short-term spirit binding to boost her stats enough to follow our progression and not get too broken without making people freak out about or new minion being too powerful?
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>>23597678
I guess that would be a useful lesson in restraint for us? We have speed+, strength+ and durability+ on her...
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>>23597540
Order Lunch to keep in shape and practice her taolu when not busy with other chores.
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>>23597685
>too lewd
I'm really amused at the implication that Liz reads those Japanese comics.
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>>23597744
We should read them together some time.

>feeling UKeenta
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>>23597627
I don't think anyone thinks we're letting her out of the tower unless we have anti-scry wards tattooed onto her or something like that.

>>23597685
I agree with feeling her muscles up and grinding against her.

>>23597723
That is also a good thing. Though she won't be getting any freerunning in for a long time.
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>>23597680
I'm curious about this too.
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>>23597761
Definitely, sit her on our lap and make her read smut as we tease her and she tries to escape her embarrassment by burying her face deeper into the porn.
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>>23597723
Kata, not taolu, she's Japanese.
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>>23597627
we aren't letting her out until she has proven her loyalty to us and is under a huge pile of anti scrying wards. But maybe we will plan on it as a treat some day of course it will be a surprise. In the mean time an extradimentional obstacle coarse is the best bet normally it is just a room but when we turn it on it gets bigger and generates an obstacle coarse we should give it a redundant power supply so that if someone is in it and the tower is shut down they can get out. When all the wards are done we can have dad help her make it as a treat when she can get him or someone else to supervise and all her work is done. that way she has a selfish reason to do her work and pleas us so she can work on her toy.
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>>23597826
Her loyalty is already guaranteed by magic, no proof is needed. I'm not sure how feasible extra dimensional space is, I think it might be beyond our ability.

On a related note, teleportation is something we should become good at too, if we want to go on Paris dates. It would be a good thing to make a focus or two for, perhaps it should be Lunch's first task besides the day to day stuff like cooking.
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>>23597788
I don't think Liz gets particularly embarrassed around us anymore.
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>>23597995
True, but we should do it anyway.

Or have Lunch read them out loud for us.
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>>23597985
>It would be a good thing to make a focus or two for, perhaps it should be Lunch's first task besides the day to day stuff like cooking.
Agreed. Teleportation focus crafting would be handy.

She's also going to be our +1 for enchanting out antiteleport tattoos.
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>>23597995
I reckon she could still be embarrassed by sharing her porn with us.
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>>23597985
The loyalty thing is i want to be sure she embraces not resists her programing. As for the extradimentional space that is something that uses conjuration and dad said that was one way we could expand the tower. We chose not to do that because if the power were to fail for even a second everything in the expanded space would suffer catastrophically (i assume it is an implosion but dad never specified). So we make a medium sized empty room into a huge coarse and if it collapses no one gets squished though maybe knocked around a little if we build it right.
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>>23598051
at least at first and it will be adorablewd.
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>>23597995
Sharing your porn is a very, very late step in a relationship. Going steady is one thing, getting inventive in bed is another, but going whole hog and showing her your collection of cum-inflation monstergirl tentacle-rape is quite another thing entirely.
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>Not eventually wanting a hoodie wearing parkour catgirl operator who thinks you are 2lewd and who teams up with breakfast to snuggle up on either side of you and Liz for cheesy Wuxia movies.
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>>23597744
She also watches Star Trek and was willing to fuck a dickgirl on an airplane just because she was a dickgirl.
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>>23598157
So if we let Lunch out for parkour, would we let her use pants?
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>>23598157
Wait, I found a much better picture for endgame Lunch.
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>>23598157
>Wanting to let her out of the wards so that magic ninja Yakuza can pack our shit.
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>>23598199
I wonder how much she may have learned from her tengu.
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>>23598195
No.
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>>23598195
short shorts.
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>>23598236
Transparent short shorts with LEDs built into the waistband so her crotch is lit up.
Maybe on a color cycle.
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>>23597627
Or maybe femcock was just having a little consistency, seeing as how we first met her free running the same as we were.
>>23598256
>stealth operative
>light up crotch
Maybe for that indoor parkour track we are considering making, but if we ever let her out of the tower, the whole point is to NOT let her be found.
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>>23598309
true If we do let her out it would be nice to give her some kind of leg protection and heat retention. But ideally any clothing is ether totally stealthy or offers no modesty.
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>>23598309
>stealth operative
>light up goggles
It goes both ways.

More to the point I was talking about if we decide to let her free run outside for fun sometimes, not if we're using her as a splinter cell-esque agent.
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"Those are some great hobbies," you say, walking up and rubbing her ass slowly. "You should make sure to practice them in the workout room upstairs. You should probably teach Liz how to fight too. Which martial arts do you practice?"

"Karate, aikido, judo, jiujitsu, kendo, ninjutsu," she says, starting to list them off. "I learned a lot from my family."

"That's really neat," says Lin. "What kind of movies do you like?"

"A lot of kinds," says Lunch. She's squirming from you rubbing her ass, but seems pleased by the non-sexual attention. "Romances, action films... All kinds. I don't like American movies very much, though." She's still cooking, something involving the spam and ramen that you guys have stocked the tower with in huge quantities.

What do you do now?
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>>23598416
tell her about the free running room we will let her make if she is a good girl.
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>>23598416
>ninjutsu
Sweet, now we can get ninja training.
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Will our antiteleport tattoos interfere with elementals?

Also, are there blood elementals?

Because if the tattoos don't interfere with them blood elementals would be a good way to power some magic biotech.

Or even use them to get some wards built into Max. We'd need to keep them behind some antidetection wards of their own to ensure secrecy and some antibanishment ones just in case.
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>>23598416
Wait for lunch to finish cooking, eat, and then introduce her to Dad and Selene, whom I'm sure is hanging out with Dad.
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>>23598416
Tell her that she could keep practicing with us if she wants.

We could probably learn some more from her too.


When she finishes cooking take her to go see dad and Selene.
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>>23598447
Let's determine what kind of time frame we're talking on this project by talking to dad before we make her any promises.
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>>23598416
We should get her to teach us those things. For now, let her finish up cooking and then it's time to introduce Liz and Dad and Selene.

>>23598309
>NOT be found
That reminds me:
>>23598416
Do we know anything about how invisibility works? What stat would they even use? Are they an illusion, or sorcery dealing with light, or what?

>>23598458
Real ninjutsu isn't much like pop culture ninjutsu.
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A perverse part of me hopes that max will die at some point in this quest. Just to see how both the characters and the players react to the empire of our own gratification we have built, without its leader and star attraction.

You see, that's my Fetish. Your tears, rage and suffering.
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>>23598471
>blood elemental
the way you're thinking of using those is a terrable idea
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>>23598416
Keep on rubbing her ass and then slowly grind up against her from behind as she cooks.

"We'll have to spar some time Lunch, I'm sure we can learn quite a bit from each other.

You're such a cute little slut, maybe we'll set up some movie nights for the family."

After she finishes cooking eat some food with her sitting on our lap as we feed our pet, then take her to see Dad and Selene.

>>23598447
Let's not tell her about that, it's a tentative plan that we don't know when we can pull it off, if we can do it right. Don't get her hopes up unnecessarily.
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>>23598471
Maby in geting and binding them if they are always on (which i think I dumb). I would worry more about the tattoos we use to stop our-self from being bound interfering with our control of an elemental.
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>>23598528
>Are they an illusion, or sorcery dealing with light, or what?
yes. both those work.
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>>23598516
I was thinking of just telling her we are considering it and that she would have to do the work on her free time. But if we want to wight that is ok. We can ask dad when we introduce her to him that way even if he shoots us down on feasibility Lunch knows we are thinking of her.
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>>23598528
conjuration and living alchemy also work for invisibility.
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>>23598528
>Do we know anything about how invisibility works? What stat would they even use?

You could use any of the stats, just differently.

Sorcery could bend light around you

Enchantment could make people just not notice you.

Alchemy could turn a cloak into metaterials for cloaking. Or your skin with living alchemy.

Conuration could bend space around you so the light just flows around you.


Conjuration would be the most thorough, since it would also cover up sounds. Enchantment would let you control more precisely though.
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>>23598551
Then we should do both. Redundant invisibility just in case somebody has a way to beat one of them.
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>>23598593
Don't bother. If it's feasible it'll be a surprise that'll happen when we have spare time to devote to a hobby room, if it's not we won't get her hopes up.
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>>23598528
>Real ninjutsu isn't much like pop culture ninjutsu.
I am fully aware of this, and learning how to be inconspicuous and mobile seems far more useful then being about to sling knives and learning a library of named attacks anyway.
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>>23598685
I see your point but she is good at conjuration and this is a conjuration effect so i was thinking this is something she can work on in her spare time as a reward for being a good girl.
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>>23597761
What if Liz's choice of reading matches the MC's ex-wife in Gate?
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You move up behind her and start grinding against her, sliding your cock between her legs. She angles her hips slightly to provide better access - maybe even unconsciously - but reaches back to try to pull down her hoodie behind her. "Nooo, please don't..." she begs. She's soaking wet, though.

"You don't want to ignore your cooking, do you?" you ask her. She pouts and goes back to cooking as you continue to grind up against her. She's hot and wet in short order. "Maybe we should spar sometime. I doubt you could be much of a match for me, but you could show me a few techniques."

"Oh~kay, Mistress..." she says.

"We might set up a movie night too," you say. "Would you like that?"

"Uh~huh..." she says, finishing up with the food. It's some simple, good ramen, with a chunk of fried spam in each. She puts down three servings on the table.

"Come sit on my lap," you say, giving it a pat. She does so, trying to avoid your cock while she eats. You pick her up and set her down so that your cock is between her legs. She can't actually avoid rubbing up against it as she sits.

"Do... Do you have to do that?" she asks. "It's so embarrassing..."

What do you do?
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>>23598940
Lets... Tone down the emberassement, at least give it a kill switch. Its really getting on my nerves.
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>>23598416
"Well, we've got a pretty good gym setup here, maybe add a lot to each other's repertoires."
> Some kung fu san soo, plenty of jiujitsu, especially BJJ, some karate, a bit of muay thai, and you even took a class in tai chi once.
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>>23598940
Feed her like a baby. I wonder how much she'll protest to that.
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>>23598971
Prude. Get out.
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>>23598940
Well technically we don't have to, being only half incubus, but it's part of what we're keeping her around for, so I suppose we may as well tell her as much.

>>23598971
This level seems to be working fine to me, she's reacting pretty normally. It's not annoying in the way that going "2lewd!" whenever something happens was.
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>>23598940
"If you didn't want it you wouldn't be so wet. Your lewd body is saying that you're a slut and you love it."

Feed her as she sits in our lap, get some food ourself as well, keep on teasing her, rubbing against her, groping her through her hoodie.
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>>23598971
The idea's to have this last a couple weeks so Liz gets her vengeance cleared up.
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>>23598940
I want to be close to you and make you feel good plus i want to feed you and show you i will take care of you. (reinforce her dependance)
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>>23599020
>This level seems good to me to. The too Lewd outbursts could get annoying (i have found them funny so far).
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>>23599020
I'm fine with those outbursts as long as they happen during sex, but her entire character seems to be based around it.
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>>23599086
I found them funny to start with but for me it had already gotten grating by >>23595845

>>23599111
You realize she's been reacting to sexual things every time, right? We've got a pretty decadent day-to-day life.
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>>23599111
You don't seem to get that there's plenty of other things to her we're already starting to see, but she just keeps getting put into situations that trigger embarrassment mode. She hasn't been conscious for more than a few hours.
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>>23599154
The Breakfast/Gav part was "sides into orbit."
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>>23599154
>We've got a pretty decadent day-to-day life.
That's a bit of an understatement. Any more decadent and we'd have an army of Almohads coming out of the desert.
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"It's okay to feel good," you reassure her. You start feeding her, making her crane her head up slightly with every spoonful. Soon, she's whimpering like a baby animal, turning her mouth up again after she swallows for each new bite. "See?" you ask. "It's good to be a pet."

She squirms and blushes but keeps eating. Eventually, she finishes the entire bowl. She still seems hungry, though, which is unsurprising all things considered, so you feed her some of your bowl too before you finish it off for yourself. When you're all done, she turns towards you and, with downturned eyes, says, "Thank you, Mistress."

"She's a real cutie," says Lin, grinning.

What do you do now?
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>>23599311
Time to finish the tour/introductions.
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>>23599311
We still haven't introduced three people.
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>>23599311
show her seleen now
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>>23599311
Continue with tour.
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>>23599311
"She really is cute. If you want to play with her later feel free.

Come along Lunch, there are still people I am going to introduce you to."

Take her to meet Selene and/or Dad.
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>>23599311
Remind Lin that she can play with Lunch whenever, and then take Lunch to meet Selene and Dad. She needs to know how important Selene is to us, and what the ground rules with her are.
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>>23599311
Take her to dad. Tell her she should help him on his projects if she's able.

Detubing. Have dad to a quick checkup on her mind to make sure we didn't accidentally break something.
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"Yes, she is cute, isn't she?" you agree. "You can use her any time you want."

"Thanks, Max. I'll have to make sure to thank Liz too," she says. Lunch just gives a nervous little gulp as she rubs her thighs back and forth around your cock.

"Okay, let's continue the tour," you say, helping Lunch to her feet.

"Yes, Mistress," she says. You lead her down the stairs until you end up in Selene's room. Your dad is in there, teaching her something in some kind of foreign language. When she notices you, she grins and runs up to you.

"Shalom, mama!" she says, smiling proudly. You pick her up and spin her around, ecstatic to see your little girl.

"This is Selene," you say. "Selene, this is Lunch."

"Runch?" asks Selene.

"I, um... I'm not good with children," says Lunch, taking a step back.

What do you do?
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>>23599568

Selene is special, so we don't have to force her on Lunch. Just explain that she's our daughter, she means a lot to us, and that she is to be treated gently. Explain to Selene that Lunch is like Breakfast, she's a new sister to her. But she's not like Breakfast, she's shy. Offer Selene to Lunch for a minute, but we don't need to cram her into her arms or anything. Then introduce dad as our dad, Dimitri.
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>>23599568
"Oh, why not?"
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>>23599568
>Shalom
Why is he teaching her a disgusting jew tongue?
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>>23599568
Don't worry there its against the rules for you to do anything Lewd with her. But she is my daughter and i expect you to protect and care for her.
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>>23599649
You shut your dirty christian mouth.
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>>23599661

Don't respond to the troll.
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>>23599568
"Calm down Lunch.

Lunch, this is Selene, she is my beloved daughter. She is very dear to me and you are to be kind and gentle with her. I love her very much. Do not initiate lewd behavior with her.

Selene, this is Lunch, you can think of her in some ways as Breakfast's sister. She is a very shy girl.

Lunch, why is it that you aren't good with children?"
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>>23599649

so she can better infiltrate the Jewish tree conspiracy and steal all their golden sap!
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>>23599674
You, I like you.
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>>23599568
As someone who doesn't particularly like small children either, I know that there is no getting away from people forcing you to try, anyways.
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>>23599568
No need to force her if she's not comfortable with kids. Selene has plenty of caretakers so it should be fine.

>>23599663
Regardless of your feelings on Jews in general, it's not one of the most useful languages.
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>>23599568
"Don't worry, we already have more than enough people taking care of her. But she won't be a child for too long either. She's a dryad, and she grows very quickly."
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>>23599568
We might want to fix that up when we have dad touch up her mind.

We're going to have 2 more dryads soonish. And one of them is a sorcery specialist, so lunch would be a good early teacher.
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>>23599649
So she can read about Great Grandpa in the original tongue? Also being a polyglot is awesome.
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>>23599746
The original tongue is the Word.
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>>23599730
She can stay that way at least as long as she insist violent besides that might make her more accepting of being sterilized.
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Oh no What if shes a lolicon?
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>>23599784
So to be fair, she can read about him in the original tongue anyway. Also I agree with >>23599746
being a polyglot is good.
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>>23599730

I don't think that'll really be necessary. After all, she has Breakfast, Dad, us and Liz as good caretakers.
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>>23599788
new fetishes everywhere today!
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>>23599784
but the Torah and the original old testament are in Hebrew.
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>>23599673
this is good
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>>23599784
Technically it's one of the original tongues. Things are allowed to be contradictory so there are other tongues that could quite rightly be considered the first language as well depending on your point of view.
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>>23599806
Not to mention it's the language of the original Torah and at least related to many of the apocryphal scrolls that were left out of the various Testaments.

Abrahamic religion being presumably relevant to our family, I'm surprised WE don't speak it too.
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>>23599784
do we even know if any books currently exist that use the word?
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>>23599830
>Implying the tora and the old testament are the oldest books
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>>23599788
I can live with that.
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>>23599870
The original Torah is not written in Yiddish.
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>>23599870
To be fair, when would we have learned it? We should, but I'd focus on the Word first.

>>23599897
As far as I'm aware Shalom is not exclusively a Yiddish word, so what is your point?
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>>23599897
Yiddish is a hybrid of German and Hebrew. So the word in in both of them.
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>>23599897
And "shalom" isn't strictly a yiddish word. It's Sephardic Hebrew. Ashkenaz pronunciations are a bit different, of course, most commonly sholom.

The Torah was written in a variety of paleo-Hebrew modes.
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>>23599878
they ar the oldost books in common surculation aout her great great grandfather there are older ones and more comon ones but that is the oldest thing that is easy to get and therefor talk about with informed people

>>23599873
Not in common circulation. But uncle Luke may have written his down and written some others. Plus there is the Paradox of self You know the book that our tattoos are extracts from.
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>>23599993
>great great grandfather
You're referring to Max and God? He's just Max's grandfather. not great great.
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>>23599993
And other languages pre-date hebrew by thousands of years, so it's quite obviously not the original tongue.
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"Calm down, Lunch," you say. "Lunch, this is my daughter. She's more dear to me than anything, so when you do anything with her, be kind and gentle, and don't be lewd to her, you slutty girl. Selene, this is Lunch. She's Breakfast's sister, and she's very shy. Do you know what a sister is?"

"Sista?" she asks.

"Yes, her sister. Lunch, why is it that you aren't good with children anyway?" you ask.

"I'm just not," she says, shrugging. "I never have been."

"Well, this is Selene," you say. "She's wonderful."

"And that man?" she asks, pointing to your dad.

"That's my father. You saw him earlier when you first woke up."

"And I'm supposed to do anything he says, right?" she asks.

What do you say?
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>>23600078
Yes.
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>>23600078
More fun if we give her the option to refuse, so we can punish her for disobeying Dad.
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>>23600078

I'd say yeah, he's her pet as well. Tell Lunch to pay double attention to whatever Dad says; he needs a cockthirsty like her.
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>>23599975
How in the living fuck is this related to the blatant fetish quest? Shut up, go home.

>implying there aren't several DOZEN languages that are way, WAY older than hebrew

What yeshiva are you in? Your teacher is obviously a moron.
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>>23600078
Yes, do anything he says. Tell dad that she should be helpful for projects.

Don't order him to let her help, since he might not want to risk her understanding the wards.

Casually mention detubing.
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>>23600078
I'd say no, for now. She's supposed to be dependent on us and Liz.
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>>23600078
"Yes. His name's Dimitri. He could always use some help around here with magic-related stuff, too. Breakfast's not really any use in that area."
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>>23600022
he is Selenes great grandfather but you are in part correct a added an extra great.
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>>23600078
That's right.
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>>23600078
Only on magic-related projects and only with our approval.
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>>23600106
We're the ones who she's supposed to be dependent on to get off. Allowing too many people control over her weakens our ultimate position of authority.
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>>23600078
"That's right slut, his name is Dimitri, he's my Father. You are supposed to obey his orders and do what he needs. Whether he wants you to suck his cock or help him with wards or make Foci.

My orders come above his, but you are at his service. Do you understand Lunch?"
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>>23600078
"As long as it doesn't contradict my instructions, yes."
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>>23600267
The entire point of not mulching her mind was so she could help with things.

Let her help dad with his projects.
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>>23600078
yes
Casually mention detubing. see how she reacts.
when we get a moment alone with dad ask him not to do anything to her if she explicitly says no unless there is a good reason but he can teas her and do things if she is reluctant.
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>>23600300
How do you think she'll react? That's a pretty good way to cause her to freak out. If we are going to detube her, we most likely need to put her under and do it.
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>>23600300
Don't mention that in front of her.

Besides, we can just input a command to use birth control.
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>>23600300
Don't mention it to her... Just ask dad to do it.
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>>23600334
Well we can assist Dad in the procedure, no reason not to.
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>>23600296
Sure, she can help with any "projects" that don't involve fucking. Once it becomes a question of a dominant sexual relationship, too many cooks spoils the pot, so to speak.
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>>23600078
"Yes. With the exception that you are not allowed to withhold information from Liz or myself at his request."
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>>23600361
And to cut off the inevitable puns, too many cocks does indeed spoil the pot as well.
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>>23600281
This works for me
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>>23600370
Blood bond already covers that. Anything he could tell her to do that would have harm on us would conflict with the bond since he can't allow harm to come to Max and friends through his inaction.
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>>23600361
She's not just ours, she's a family slut/pet. We're her Mistress, but that doesn't mean that she shouldn't do what Dad says.

And not letting him fuck her means cutting him off from a second food supply.
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>>23600281
I think we were trying to tone it down around Selene.
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>>23600402
Right, but Dimitri could have her take over refreshing the wards so he could focus on the other projects we've given him, right?
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>>23600281
Dude, we're holding Selene right now, no naughty language.
>>23600361
She's here for feeding and you want to make it so our Dad can't use her to feed?
No.
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>>23600408
Fair point
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>>23600078
Don't tell her, ask her what she thinks.
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>>23600408
We literally fucked Breakfast in front of her under 24 hours ago. I don't think we should really be that concerned about it.

Selene is going to grow up in a house with sex everywhere, it's just a natural consequence of the situation.
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>>23600439
Yes. He already has Breakfast. It's only fair that we establish Lunch as predominantly "ours", especially because that's more or less how Liz programmed her.
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>>23600468
Breakfast is a family pet, Lunch can be 'ours' but still fuck our Dad under our orders to spread her legs for him when he requests it.

We don't monopolize a food source.
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>>23600468
But we also fuck breakfast, and everything else in the damn tower, she should be a family pet.
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>>23600450
She's programmed not to even be comfortable fucking US, how do you think she'd respond to fucking our father as well? Breakfast's not even REALLY her sister, and she didn't approve of it.

We were at least reasonable on that count, so why force this situation?
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>>23600455
Thats no excuse for exposing her to naughty language.
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>>23600468
That would be pretty rude considering that Dimitri shared Breakfast with us.
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>>23600432
The wards are the most important thing he's doing. He wouldn't put an enthralled firsty in charge of it.

Lunch making him foci? I can see it. But he wouldn't risk his and Max's safety on first-year crafted wards.

I could also argue that this also falls under the inaction clause of the blood bond. By not working on the wards himself when Max hasn't given a conflicting order he would be arbitrarily increasing the risk of harm by increasing the length of time we don't have all of the tower under fully functional wards.
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>>23600468
That's stupid. He didn't withhold Breakfast from us. Also, he's the only one who actually needs women as a food source.
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>>23600493
We fucked breakfast because she was the only one specifically programmed to be a food source. It was a question of availability.
>>23600489
And what I've been trying to tell you is that for a variety of reasons that's not the best of ideas. If it happens, it should be under our explicit orders, not as a standing order to accept orders from him.

You can see how those are two very different things, right?
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>>23600532
You have provided no reasons.
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>>23600532
It's pointless, Dimitri is sensible enough that he won't monopolize Lunch or usurp our position, you're just being selfish and risk damaging Max's relationship with her dad as a result.
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>>23600548
Hey, you assclowns were the ones who had her programmed to be uncomfortable with the whole business. You could at least CONTEMPLATE the possibility that in doing so you set up anything even remotely incestuous as a problem.

She's not Breakfast, you know. There's still an independant thought process going on in there.
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*nudge*
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>>23600548

This is how I feel. Dad shared Breakfast with us, I feel it's appropriate that he have access to Lunch as well. Plus, getting used by more folk should help drive home how much of a whore she is.
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>>23600614
You aren't even making sense, why would Lunch fucking Dimitri be incestuous?
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>>23600694
is this a case of short term satisfaction of revenge = long term damage/diminishing return on investment? if no long term issues from rapid whoring, no problem. but if long term use *is* compromised, we need a different tack
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>>23600781
You're to be congratulated, it's been a long time since I've seen someone write so much utterly pointless circular bullshit.
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>>23600781

Well, we eventually want her to acclimate to being a fuckslut, a la Breakfast. But while Breakfast is enthusiastic, we want Lunch to be more shy and demure. Still cockthirsty, but not running around shouting "COCK!"
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>>23600781
>long term use is compromised

First off, what kind of use are we talking here? Because of you mean the obvious I don't see how that would compromise Lunch or our use of her.

Second, why would you possibly think we were done tweaking her head?
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>>23600755
Because then she's fucking a father and his daughter at the same time. That's why I said "remotely" incestuous. It's not LITERALLY incest, but then again fucking Breakfast wouldn't LITERALLY be incest either even though we told them to refer to each other as sisters.

And we already saw how she reacted to that. It gets back to that whole issue of consequences: in the mental programming, Lunch was made to be uncomfortable with things, and since she is still acting with free will within the limits set by her programming it seems only fair that we respect certain boundaries if and when they come up.

If lunch would be uncomfortable being ordered to fuck our father, we should at least entertain the possibility of not MAKING her, or rather not giving HIM the option to make her. I'm sure Dimitri would understand.
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>>23600806
fuck you and the horse you rode in on

>>23600819
right - just don't want to have to waste time in future changing brain to cockthirsty when could be spending blocks, i don't know, perhaps making some wards
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>>23600859
We got Lunch so we could have a spare food source for us and Dad, and Selene when she got old enough. If she's uncomfortable with it we tease her until she's too horny to say no to us spit roasting her or him just fucking her, or we just order her to do it and she'll enjoy it and feel ashamed about it afterwards.

If she doesn't want it we'll either make he want it, or just convince her.

Lunch is a shared family pet, Liz can fuck her, we can fuck her, Lin can fuck her, Dad can fuck her, Breakfast can kiss and cuddle her and show her how to be a good slut, Selene can fuck her when she's old enough.
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did we lose FemCOCK
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>>23600859
You know that capitalizing shit in the middle of sentences doesn't actually make your point any stronger, right?

Lunch is food, she's smarter and has additional uses, sure, but one of the main reasons we got her was so that Max, Dimitri, and eventually Selene, could have another person to feed off of when they needed to mitigate strain.
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>>23600859
Your point is moot because we have rob her the ability to actually express what she want regarding sex. Whatever she want, she will deny wanting it anyway. Also, there no reason to make harder for our dad to regenerate in case of emergency
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>>23600859
Ahhh, I see. Well, that would be rather rude to Dimitri, but given that her inhibitions are set to degrade over then next 2-4 weeks (not sure if Liz set a specific time frame), I doubt it will be a long term issue. Of course, if Lunch is still suffering from the same level of needless shame by week 3 I expect we'll help the process along. As for dad, he help Liz reshape Lunch's mind and so far has never been shown to be cruel. So the question is do you trust dad not to mistreat Lunch given how well he knows her mind?

I'm actually more concerned about how Liz will treat our new pet, 16 year old girls tend to hold serious grudges.
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>>23600902
And I'm telling you that Dimitri is a reasonable guy. He's had a long time to think about the ethics of mind control, and he knows that there's still a lot of independent thinking in Lunch's head.

If we decided to do the decent thing for once and respect her discomfort to some degree, he will probably not just understand but appreciate the effort. It might even make him proud to see us treat her with some measure of respect. Because like I've said, Dimitri is a mostly reasonable sort of guy: surprisingly so, in fact, given his nature.

Of course this relies on people wanting to do something decent, and I've found that support for such actions has really evaporated over the last week or two.
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So, what do you actually say?
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>>23600992
She's a family pet. We treat her nicely, more or less, but Dad still should have command authority over her. It's his choice on how far to exercise it.

If he wants a snack from her he should have the option of ordering Lunch.

He's going to probably mainly be using her as a Foci and magic assistant as Draining her makes her less useful for that, but he ought to have the option open to him.

We're not going to try to make her exclusive to us or just under our command after Dad shared Breakfast.
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>>23601034
"Right."
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>>23600934
>no reason to make harder for our dad to regenerate in case of emergency
So we set a contingency. That's still no reason to limit it to a straight up-or-down answer.
>>23600933
It adds emphasis that I would add verbally were we talking face to face. And as for mitigating strain, WE can still order her to do things even if we don't give Dimitri free reigns. As for Selene, she can't even use her yet, so why bring her into the discussion?
>>23600937
It's partly his lack of cruelty that makes me think he won't mind having a boundary there, even if it turns out to be permanent: like if it's what's left of Kaoru drawing the line instead of our programming.
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>>23601034
She is to do what he says, as long as his orders don't contradict ours.

I think Dimitri has more than proven that he's sensible enough not to abuse the privilege. Far more sensible than Max anyway.
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>>23601034

There's just one guy it seems against not sharing Lunch with Dimitri. Tell Lunch to respect Dad's orders as if they were our own; the blood bond and the fact that Dad is a cool guy should protect us from bad things happening.

Snapple's idea of having him detube her and / or check on Liz' work are good too.
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>>23601034
This.
>>23600281

You can tone down the naughty language if you want, though I don't really see the big deal.
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>>23601034
Tell her to listen to everything he says. Let him know if she doesn't know how to do something though.

Tell dad that she could help him with his projects, craft foci for him, or do whatever.

When we get a moment with dad more privately bring up detubing.
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>>23600937
Dose this sound at least ok to everyone.
We let Dimitry fuck yer but tell him if she says no he shouldn't unless it is an emergency.
That way he can use his judgement still subdue her if need be but wont cause her to much trauma. and he can seduce her if he wants to use her instead of Breakfast.
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>>23601040
I give up. I'm not going to win this one, either.

But can we at LEAST ask Dimitri to be somewhat respectful of her discomfort? After all, Breakfast will never begrudge him.
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>>23601049
>>23601051
>>23601058
these
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>>23601068
That's stupid because we programmed Lunch to act like she doesn't want it regardless of if she actually wants it.

She'll always just say no.
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>>23601077
Dimitri is more likely to be respectful of her discomfort than most people in this tower, I don't know why you're so worried.
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>>23601077
hell yeah - we already have a Breakfast, don't need two brainless bimbos
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>>23601068
When talking to Dad privately we can tell him that she's shy, embarrassed and ashamed but she honestly wants it.

>>23601077
He was there, he knows what's in her head, he knows that she's been turned slutty and embarrassed about it, and he'll work with that.
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>>23601034
trust dad to respect her and say "yes" in private talk about detubeing. If he advises we put her on normal birth control instead do that.
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>>23601068
Are you seriously suggesting we make Lunch's safeword "lewd" to get her to stop saying it? Because that would be brilliant if we hadn't programed her to say "lewd" whenever she gets excited.
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>>23601051
>>23601110
I think we should suggest birth control first, rather than jumping straight to the detubing option, but we should certainly talk to him about it later.
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>>23601123
Why? The only reason that anyone felt remotely bad about detubing Breakfast was her immediate tears reaction to seeing Selene.

Lunch's first reaction was that she dislikes kids and is bad with them
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>>23601094
Yes, but making it EXPLICIT means that Lunch knows what to expect, and Dimitri knows she knows, and Max knows that they both know and they both know that Max knows.

Being explicit and open about expectations: yet another thing that good doms do, though after more or less ignoring the idea of respecting boundaries I don' know why I'd expect you to internalize this point either.
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>>23601058
This. All of this.
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>>23601162
Because she is still capable of rational thought and therefore of formulating opinions, being scared, et cetra.

Sterilization is not a thing you force on a person if you are yourself a decent and rational human being.
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>>23601085
yes she like she dose with us then we teas her and she begs for it. I dont want Max ever to fuck her if she flat out said no but we can use any means of persuasion that she hasn't yet refused. I want Dimitry to know Max has set that limit and wants him to abide by it to.
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>>23601236
>yes she like she dose with us then we teas her and she begs for it
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>>23601236
First, grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. That physically hurt to read.

We haven't set that limit as far as I know, and honestly we made her incapable to refuse sex outright, just be embarrassed and ashamed.

For fuck's sake people, we turned a girl into a embarrassed sex-craving horny slut who we don't let get herself off. Stop trying to take the moral high ground, there is no moral high ground. If we want to fuck her we can order her to do it and it happens, she's a pet in many ways.
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>>23601236
Could you, oh, I don't know, perhaps speak in English? Or rather, CORRECT English, since your linguistic ability seems to be matched only that of a dyslexic three year old.
Failing that, shut up entirely.
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>>23601236
>yes she like she dose with us then we teas her and she begs for it.
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>>23601122
first I forgot to remove the link in that other post.

Further no I am not I dont understand where you get that. I want her to be able to say no to explisit acts. Maybe we should give her a safeword that would be good. I would still be willing for anyone to ignore it in an emergency but that would be useful.
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>>23601163
We're not really trying to be a "good dom" to her. We're not trying to be a dom at all, she's our servant and sex slave for purely non-romantic reasons. You seem to have internalized things that aren't true, and unless I'm mistaken you've used it to draw conclusions which would be irrelevant even if your assumptions were accurate.
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>>23601252
Allow me. She resists us initially, but if we tease her she eventually gets to the point where she begs for it. I don't want Max to ever force it on her if any of the usual means of persuasion fail, since she is still capable of forming her own opinions and could end up legitimately hating her new role in our erstwhile "family".

I therefore see a sensitivity to her discomfort as a sort of self-imposed limit that Dimitri should also respect.
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>>23601300
The time limit was a concession we wrung from Liz. If she didn't manage to put it in place then we will have to go in and correct that. After we make a mental modification drain mitigating focus because seriously we need one.
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>>23601300
This reminds me.
I feel like max and liz should at SOME point address just how evil they have become on some level.

>pic related.
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>>23601236
Your English is pretty bad. Seriously, find an English spellchecker, and read up a bit on how commas work. You're a bit tough to understand.

>>23601304
Not everybody speaks English as a first language, bro.
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>>23601339
That is what i meant.

>>23601304
funny you mention that I have dyslexically
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>>23601347
I don't think Max is evil, just very protective of her small circle of friends and family and willing to do some terrible and pragmatic things to protect them. Combine that with incredible mind-influencing powers, an overactive libido and the maturity of a sixteen year old who's had a very confusing upbringing, and you have Max.
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>>23601347
>our face when

>>23601363
I've found that people speaking English as a second language tend to have excellent spelling but unusual sentence structure. Note that "unusual" does not mean "outright bad." That travesty of language was just outright bad.
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>>23601376
Does your spellchecker have dyslexia too?
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"Yes, you're to do what he wants of you," you tell her. "He'll be regularly fucking you, and you'll occasionally be his assistant on magical affairs."

"I'll be happy to have the help," your dad says. He gives her a warm smile, but she just blushes. "I'm sure Breakfast won't mind sharing either, especially if it means she's less tired all the time."

"But that means he's going to..." she says, pulling her sweater down self-consciously again.

"Yes, I will," he says. "I won't be cruel about it, though, and I'll make sure that you enjoy it."

She blushes harder and makes a nigh-inaudible little mumble.

What do you do now?
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>>23601347
Stop, please stop. Don't try to look at Scholomance in terms of good and evil, it's silly.

Look at the chain of events. Someone attacked us and threatened her safety and the safety of the people we care about.

So we took out the threat and instead of killing her decided to make her into something useful to us.

We're pragmatic. We deal with problems quickly and permanently with the resources available to us. We are protective as hell of our little family group and willing to kill for them. We're also horny as fuck.
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>>23601418
If Dad's going to be fucking her regularly, we should probably acquire birth control for her. Unless we want to go the rather drastic route of spaying her like we did Breakfast.
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>>23601418
Maybe it's time to alchemize a oversized doggy bed (or futon mattress if that's unacceptable to the rest of you) for the pets. They really should have some place more comfortable than the floor to nap when we aren't taking them to bed with us.
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>>23601418
Ask her to go work on another focus crafting focus. Let her borrow your notes.

Tell her to take special care with them. When she finishes it bring it back to Dimitri.

When she leaves us alone ask dad about making sure she doesn't get pregnant. Detubing preferred. Also ask him to take a quick peek in her head for anything glaringly dangerous or malfunctory.
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>>23601438
Personally, I think we should, but I suppose we dont have to. Unless we plan to release her from servitude at some point, or worse (Like impregnating her), it seems silly to take a less than permanent measure.
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>>23601418
Only one left is Liz, right? If we want to fix her now though, we should ask her what she thinks of that first. Not necessarily because it's her choice, but because her opinion might influence our choice. The fact that she doesn't like kids may mean she's totally okay with it.

>>23601389
If that makes her not evil, I don't think any real person or believable character would be considered evil by your mindset.

>>23601421
It's no more silly than applying notions of good and evil to real life, and tons of people do that.
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>>23601418
"You see, you have nothing to worry about."

We should actually ask her if she's already on any form of birth control before we start planning for it. Be a bit silly to learn afterwards that she's already set.
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>>23601315
Put another way, would you rather give a puppy a pat on the head and a treat, or throw her out in the garage?

Treating Lunch the way you'd treat a sub would be a good way to establish and reinforce genuine feelings of love and comfort within our family. Anything else is counterproductive, and might reinforce negative feelings towards us.
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>>23601468
She was already introduced to Liz via feeldo.
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>>23601465
Sounds good.
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>>23601468
Personally I'm finding Max to be a refreshing change of pace from most quest protagonists, who either become complete paladins or moustache-twirling baby-kickers.

She's a shade of grey, perhaps a fairly dark one, but that suits me just fine.
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>>23601489
Good point. I suppose another introduction would be redundant. We can go straight to the question of birth control then.
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>>23601418
Her pulling the hoodie down is just adorable. We'll have to tighten it some time so even with her pulling it down it can just barely not cover her up.

"What was that Lunch? Do speak up.

You will be getting fucked a lot Lunch, but we'll all make sure you enjoy it. You're safe and loved, this is your home and we'll make sure you're taken care of.

Lunch, I have a question for you. Are you currently on birth control?"

After we get the answer to that. If she's already on it give her orders to continue being on it, if not we get her started on it or talk to dad about detubing her, I honestly don't care which.

Then we should work with Dad, check her head, make sure everything is placed right, that the shame will slowly wear off, maybe add the masochism and cat mannerisms.

Then put her to work, have her make some Foci, like more Foci crafting Foci, or a Teleportation Foci, let her collect supplies from the tower and provide Dad with a list of requested Temporary Foci that she can't get here.
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>>23601236
>yes she like she dose with us then we teas her and she begs for it
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>>23601315
I would rather treat her well and have her enjoy her position, so that if for example someone broke our compulsions on her, she would chose to return to us or at least not hate us. What you propose would have her looking for any way out of the hell she is taped in.
Finally i dont want our Dryad daughters growing up thinking outright rape is ok. Whatever we do with Lunch we will play it with Liz and I want them to understand the difference between the real thing and what we do at home.
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>>23601548
yep, this
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>>23601548
I second this, except for discussing detubing in front of her.
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>>23601578
I think we should get her opinion on the detubing. We shouldn't just decide it behind her back and then surprise her with it, since she's rational enough to have an opinion.
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>>23601548
>>23601465
Having her get to work on a foci making focus seems to be the best option.
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>>23601588
agreed.
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>>23601578
Oh yeah, if we do bring up the detubing thing do it in private with Dad, I just don't care either way whether we stick her on birth control or detube her. I'm staying out of this argument.
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>>23601411
funny story my text pad has no spell checker and I just realized the embedded one i use doesn't register errors in copy pasted text. Again this is my fault.
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>>23601588
Or we discuss it with dad behind her back.

If she realizes what he did to her after it's done then remove it during the mental touchup.
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Why detube her, after all shes going to be one of our special maids. Who knows she may want to have kids so that she may continue to serve us.
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>>23601628
>human babies
Fuck that noise.
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>>23601613
Why bother? It's not like we can't go against her wishes if we decide to, and if her knowing becomes problematic somehow, we can remove her knowledge of it with mental touchup anyway.
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>>23601471
yes that is what i am saying that is why i want her to chose her birth control method to we should also explain that we plan to learn living alchemy so detubing is not entirely permanent if she wants children and we allow it.
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"Were you on birth control, Lunch?" you ask her calmly.

"W-what?" she asks.

"Did you use to be on birth control, before you joined us here?"

"I... ye... I think so," she says, blushing furiously and fidgeting.

"Okay. Here, go find my notes on focus-crafting foci and go make one. Only use easily-replaceable objects as temporary foci."

"Yes, Mistress," she says before dashing off.

"How do you think we should handle her birth control?" you ask your dad once she's gone.

"We could do what we did with Breakfast," he offers. "That would certainly be the most thorough and guaranteed option. It shouldn't be an issue if we keep her on her birth control, though. We have the resources to afford it and unlike Breakfast she seems rational enough to consistently remember to take it. It's up to you, Max."

What do you say to him?
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>>23601418
I'm going to suggest one last time that we ask Dimitri to go easy on her and try to be sensitive towards her obvious discomfort. And before anyone jumps on me for it, I think it's a reasonable request and that it's worth making it clear and verbal.
>>23601421
We threatened her safety first. Then we mindraped her, and now we're using her as a tool.

Placing pragmatism over empathy for others is a textbook definition of clinical psychopathy. Refusing to acknowledge that she did no more to threaten us than we would do if we felt our security may have been compromised is simply being bull-headed.

We did not even investigate the possibility of attempting to reason with her before people started screaming to turn her into a fucktoy, and the subsequent mental gymnastics I saw people go through to justify it were appalling. And now we, as a collective at least, seem to be contemplating the possibility of having her sterilized.

Don't you tell me that we've yet to cross the line into evil territory, and taken everyone in the tower with us. Except maybe Selene, she's really too young to deliberately disregard the welfare of other people.
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>>23601628
Didn't she just say she didn't like kids? That kind of thing doesn't naturally change overnight. (could be years in quest if ever)
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>>23601421
Yeah, but wouldn't max and liz at some point point stop and go "holy shit this is really fucked up."? They were raised with traditional western morals after all.
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>>23601713
Let's stick with birth control, I think, seems kind of cruel to take the other option on someone who's actually intelligent enough to understand.
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>>23601713
May as well keep her on the pills, it's easier to reverse if we change our mind.
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>>23601713
I want to detube her.

If we have a shitstorm over this, or even if we can't reach a consensus, I say we ask Lunch if she'd like to not need birth control pills anymore.
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>>23601713
"Lets just stick with it for now. We should use condoms until she's been on the new stuff a week just to be safe, though.
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>>23601713
Lets use the pill, we could even implement a compulsion to make sure she takes them.
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>>23601713
"Let's stick with birth control, she's smart enough to stick with it, and it's easier to reverse if for some reason we ever want to do so. We can always take out her tubes later if need be."

What time is it?
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>>23601588
that is what i want as well. She is going on birth control and we are riding her bareback but i dont want to force sterilization on her.
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>>23601745
But we won't change our mind. There is absolutely no reason or benefit for raising nondryad babies.
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>>23601729
Probably on vacation away from the scholomance, which might make Liz's trip home interesting. Before that I think morality will take a second seat to survival and stress relief.
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>>23601751
Seconded.
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>>23601776

Other than this being blatant fetish quest, and that being a fetish some people have
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>>23601777
>Probably on vacation away from the scholomance,

...That would make a good story arc.

>>23601713
Pills.
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>>23601716
>We threatened her safety first. Then we mindraped her, and now we're using her as a tool.
No, we noticed someone on our way home and tracked them to their sanctum, decided it wasn't worth the risk, and ignored them after that. Her sanctum detected that a "spirit" had come near the location, so without any kind of recon or planning she tried to capture it with a half-assed plan that almost worked solely because our magic was being a bitch that day.
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>>23601716
We already had this fucking argument.

Once we had her knocked out and in our Sanctum we had two fucking options, we could either kill her and dump the body somewhere, or keep her and mindfuck her.

If you want to argue this just go back to the old thread that had this argument in it and reread it, I doubt you'll bring up any new points.
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>>23601751
Yeah, that's why I wanted to ask her. I figured she might prefer it. But apparently everyone's dead set on not consulting her about what we do to her body.

>>23601776
What if we find a way to accelerate time and we want to raise an army? That's just off the top of my head. You never fucking know with Wizards, man.

>>23601777
Speaking of Liz's home life, did she ever call her dad like she said she was going to? That should probably happen.
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>>23601793
Well, figure out how easy it would be to put the offspring up for adoption or to spring them on an orphanage and whether or not the bloodlines to us could be used against Max and Dimitri.
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>>23601716
>We threatened her safety first. Then we mindraped her, and now we're using her as a tool.

If someone tried to gun you down in the street, and you only escaped through pure luck, and were fairly certain they'd try again, would you then rush off to try and reason with them?
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>>23601820
>accelerate time
That's master level theoretical conjuration.

We could just reverse the detubing with living alchemy, which we have a better chance of learning how to do.
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>>23601818
I don't think the argument is should we or should we not, but should the characters make a mental note of how far they have gone.
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>>23601713
The right thing to do is to ask her. We don't have to actually follow through on what she requests, but she deserves to at least be consulted if we're really going to be treating her as anything even approaching a sentient being.
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>>23601713
Do her like we did Breakfast
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>>23601818
>We already had this fucking argument.
That has very little bearing on whether we'll have it 200 more times.

>We could either kill her and dump the body somewhere, or keep her and mindfuck her.
Or we could have woken her up, talked to her, with an optional side of mindfuck, and then teleported her back to her home while staying on good terms. It's not like she'd be able to find our sanctum again from that. The "only other option is to kill her" is rhetoric with no grounding in reality. We chose to keep her largely because we wanted a second meal.
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>>23601751
thank you i want to ask her. My preference is detube but i care what she thinks more than i prefer detubeing. hell if she wants that that would be perfect. We can make it more appealing by pointing out the pill sometimes fails and in a year or two we can undo detubeing if she wants kids and we dont say no.
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>>23601844
Especially since we already conveyed a message to Liz about how far one must go to become an archmage, and whether it's actually worth it.
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>>23601867
You know we hit her with a mental attack before we teleported her to our sanctum right?

She was already missing large chunks of her memory.
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>>23601867
We had this argument, the point you made was already addressed multiple fucking times. Go back and read the old thread if you want to relive it.
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>>23601870
>in a year or two
Since it's Archmage-level magic, probably not for about seven years unless we turn out to be a prodigy.
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>>23601867
She's a god damned wizard, the second she woke up she would be trying to sling spells and escape, that was the reason people were against it.
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>>23601880
We did a bit of damage and mostly just stunned her.

[REDACTED]'s mind virus burned out far more.
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>>23601713
Just ask her when she brings back the focus in a couple hours.

>>23601894
It would give her more of a reason to want to help us succeed if she changes her attitude about children later on.
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>>23601820
The dick wants what the dick wants. I've given up on Max ever getting to do something that even resembles decency, because the majority of people here just don't fucking care.

Trying to get them to admit that there might be an option that gets things done without us acting like a comic-book version of Dr. Mengele is an exercise in futility.
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>>23601820
>accelerate time...raise an army
It takes a dryad less than 2 years to reach full maturity, so I expect it would still be the better option to go non-human for the instant army project.
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>>23601894
They start teaching living alchemy to second year lotus students.
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>>23601713
Keep her on birth control, it's simpler. If we need to take out the tubes we can do it later.
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>>23601913
The most dramatic living alchemy that Ali, a talented member of the third circle, could do was extending her fingers into claws. We're talking about precision living alchemy on another person rather than ourselves. We're already doing minor living alchemy in the form of healing spells.
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>>23601908
>a comic-book version of Dr. Mengele

Oh good god, are you actually that retarded?
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>>23601895
Newsflash: SO ARE WE.Dimitri was what, fifth circle?

If we wanted to do things calmly and rationally, we could have bound her and taken away all her focuses. Then, after a little while recovering, we would be ready when her mind eventually pasted itself back together. Alternately, we could have removed her hostility towards us.

Don't pretend that there were no alternatives to how we handled it when there clearly were.
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>>23601922
Simpler, no. Easily reversible, yes. Which is the problem if you think about it.
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We should kidnap Ying and Yang so that we can try to stitch their minds together.

It will be really interesting to see what happens with both pairs of forks being combined into one entity.
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>>23601986
That is so retarded I don't even have words for it.

Please go. Leave and never return.
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>>23601965
No good, time-effective alternatives anyway.

You want to spend a month spoon-feeding warm soup to a prisoner who may or may not doublecross us later, that's your business, but don't act like it's a good idea.
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"Let's keep her on the birth control for now," you say. "We could give her the option of a tubal ligation later. If we can trust her to take it reliably, there's no reason to just jump straight to the permanent option."

"I completely agree," your dad says. "You look tired, Max. I don't think you got very good rest while tranquilized."

You hadn't noticed because of the steady pounding of adrenaline of the past day or two, but you are feeling tired. Selene tries to blow a raspberry on your shoulder; she's getting better at that. You return the favor, leaving her giggling and squirming.

What do you do now?
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>>23601965
No offense, but you do realize that by the time diplomacy was an option we had already done irreparable damage to her mind, right?
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>>23601932
Determining who lives and who becomes a slave? Ripping away parts of a prisoner's memory and personality and rewriting them to suit us? Doing inhuman things to healthy human beings because, and allow me to quote several previous posters, "we're really horny"?

So comparing Max to Mengele might be hyperbole, still not liking the comparison doesn't mean the similarities aren't there.
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>>23602017
What time is it? If it's late, we should probably go get a few hours sleep if we're that tired.
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>>23602017

Well, if we're tired, we should go nap out for a little while. Maybe encourage Liz to use Lunch some more while we're out?
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>>23602039
It's after midnight.
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>>23601965
So you wanted to wait a week with a sniper tengu with 300 years of combat experience was out for our blood?

That would have gone so well.
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>>23602017
>>23602054
Take a 3hrs of sleep.
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>>23602054
Whelp, time for bed
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>>23602054
Then let's go cuddle up with Liz and get a few hours sleep.
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>>23602017
Get as much sleep as we can. 6+ hours. Yes, 2 will do the trick, but we have catching up to do, and want to be well-rested for the next couple days.
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>>23602054
Go to bed with Liz, for serious talks about what we just did.
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Put Selene down and go sleep. No fucking again until sleep is had.
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>>23602017
Give Selene some more kisses, play with her a bit more.

Tell Dad to have fun with Lunch, and make sure he knows that she's shy and embarrassed but she is a slut and you just have to tease her enough.

Then curl up in bed with Liz, cuddle up against her, rest our boner in between her buttcheeks or her thighs and get a good 3 hours of sleep in.
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>>23602073
2 hours of sleep for us is equivalent to 8 hours for an unaugmented human. Max can't sleep 6+ hours unless it's induced by a tranquilizer.
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>>23602077
Doubt she's awake and I'd be shocked if she was feeling much besides satisfaction with how Lunch turned out.
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>>23602113
FemCock already pointed out that we could sleep longer and stay up longer as a result.
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>>23601867
i disagree that we could have returned her safely but that is a difference in threat assessment between you and most of the people in the thread. If she is not safe to release then keeping her and killing her were our only options. We collectively decided killing her was to evil/wasteful. that leaves all the flavors of keeping her. Chained in the basement is out for the same reasons as killing. Not modifying her was to dangerous. Making her obedient loyal and dependent is acceptable given the above (do you agree if the above is all true this is?) and we did that. Now we hit the stick part are the fetishes ok. She is now our dependent as such we are responsible for her welfare. That responsibility gives us the right to use her to further her defense (do you disagree?). to that end she can clearly be our foci bitch. Further I believe we can extract her energy and the fetish mods improve that function in some opinions. Further her current ones makes Liz feel better. On the other hand i believe we should consult her on her birth control.
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>>23602142
Have you, or anyone you know, succeeded in sleeping over 18 hours straight? I'm happy to be wrong but I thought that was still an issue for max.
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>>23602020
If you can't be bothered to pay attention then don't bother trying to argue. FemCOCK specifically told us that most of her mind was just withdrawn due to shock, and that the most serious damage was to the areas of her mind containing memories of her society. We never actually let her wake up to assess what the extent of any other damage was like.

This has been reiterated countless times since then whenever somebody brings it up. See, what you're doing is bringing up a misunderstanding that has been repeated so many times people have started treating it like it was a fact.

>>23602001
Putting in a little extra effort to care for her while she was in that condition could have made her less likely to treat us as a threat when she woke up, because it would be the decent, humane thing to do to a prisoner. It shows a degree of intentional restraint and thoughtfulness. We might have ended up with another ally, though the bird definitely needed to go in any event.

But nobody was even willing to entertain that possibility, because why be decent when you can make a fucktoy and rationalize it as the only acceptable solution?
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>>23602169
I did a couple times, but I also forced myself to stay up for a little over 60 hours beforehand each time.
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>>23602179
>why be decent when you can make a fucktoy

Because this is Blatant -Fetish- Quest.
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>>23602179
>though the bird definitely needed to go in any event.

Yeah, I'm sure murdering her mentor would've gone a long way towards fostering those feelings of goodwill.
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>>23602202
You DO realize that sparing the tengu would set an incredibly powerful spirit after us until either we or it were dead?
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>>23602191
And some of us have a fetish for hand-holding.
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>>23602202
>>23602227
I agree killing the tengu was necessary, I'm saying it would be retarded to think that we could have become bffs with Kaoru while murdering her mentor.
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>>23602183
Well, I stand corrected.
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>>23602179
We fucking covered every single complaint you have right now in the old argument, go back and read it. For fuck's sake.

Sending her back home or letting her leave our Sanctum would be a terrible idea in every single respect for reasons covered in the previous thread.

We could either kill her, or keep her in our tower.

The only good way to keep her in the tower would involve mindfucking her at some point to be sure that we wouldn't get fucked over. Once again, already covered in the old thread.

Now shut up, stop arguing in circles, stop bringing up old arguments, and read the old thread if you really want to relive that retarded bitchfest.
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>>23601894
Archmage-level magic is the cat punch. Self living alchemy is taught to second years. Firsties could probably learn it but they dont teach it for security reasons. A willing unresisting target is much less difficult. I figure it is year 3-4 because we know a 3-4th year who has a contingency plan based on it.
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>>23602169
Yeah, when I had mono for a month I slept for 29 hours straight at one point. Also, apparently Max hasn't had any rest since Saturday night/Sunday morning.
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>>23602017
Ask dad how often he's refreshing the wards and if it's more than once a week add fixing that to our list of priorities.
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>>23602191
It is also a -Quest-, meaning that we are free to -Not- turn everything into an exercise in fetish fulfillment.
>>23602202
Just as she felt the need to strike at us for discovering her hideout, we felt a need to kill a powerful bound spirit whose only mission in life was to find her and go all Terminator on anyone that got in its way.

A reasonable human being would be capable of understanding this point. Instead of explaining it to her and seeing if it stuck, we ended up skipping ahead to mindfuckery.

Thus, the criticism that the alternative was not even partially explored. In effect, instead of showing ourselves to be reasonable we turned out to be exactly as bad as she was afraid we might be when she found out we trailed her.

We had the opportunity to be better than what scholomance forces people to be, to set an example for our circle of close companions and for our dryad-Daughter, and we passed it up.
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>>23602302
>A reasonable human being would be capable of understanding this point. Instead of explaining it to her and seeing if it stuck, we ended up skipping ahead to mindfuckery.

My god, you are actually stupid.

The tengu was a trusted retainer of her family for 1000 years or something similar, she would have freaked the fuck out about us killing it, or pretended to be our friend, stepped outside, and told her family what we did.

Then yakuza wizards would send Max her mother's severed head in the post.
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>>23602302
No, see now you're just letting your hatred of what we did blind you to the facts.

If you kidnap someone, murder their only ally and mentor, and then tell them "hey, it was pretty reasonable when you think about it, let's be friends" then the answer is either no, or they're suffering from stockholm syndrome and you've effectively mindbroken them anyway.
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>>23602302
Please see>>23602262

We covered every single complain you're raising. Please stop bitching.
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>>23602302
She called it Onii-chan man, there was no possibility of understanding.
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You play with Selene a bit more before setting her down. "Mama's going to sleep," you tell her. "Night night."

"Nite nite!" she says, giving you a little wave. It really warms your heart. You climb up to the bedroom, where Liz is reading something in bed. She's still reasonably well-rested from sleeping before. You lie down next to her and rest your eyes.

"Hey, Liz?" you ask her idly. "Do you feel okay with this whole situation? What we've been doing?"

"What do you mean?" she asks.

"Like, Breakfast and Lunch. We haven't really done anything else like that, not really... But is what we did to them justified?" you ask. It's been bothering you a little lately.

"I don't know," says Liz honestly. "Someone had to feed your dad, and he could have just killed her. But what happened to her shouldn't be on your conscience, it should be on his."

"Lunch, then," you say. "Maybe we could have handled that differently."

"Mistress, her reaction to you discovering her sanctum was to try to kidnap you and enslave your mind and soul," Liz says angrily. "That alone is worthy of killing her. She's lucky to be alive at all - you were merciful."

"And we couldn't have negotiated? Talked it through?" you ask.

"We already considered that. There would be no way to guarantee that she would hold up her end of any deal, especially when she had already proved so willing to escalate things," she says. "Stop beating yourself up for something that wasn't even an option."

continued
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>>23602262
And as I said then, and now, your "arguments" are flawed. I never argued for letting her go. I never argued for killing her. What I argued for was not turning her into a cockslut until we had investigated the possibility of gaining her cooperation, by instead finding a temporary solution that would keep her from becoming a threat. I also argued that anything beyond this would be unnecessary until we had determined whether the less invasive option was viable.

I will stop arguing with you now, because you are clearly unwilling to accept that any part of my thought process has any merit, and besides which what has been done is done.

Furthermore, to continue to try to reason with people who will never agree with me is a waste of time and effort.

Congratulations, you have succeeded in driving off the last bit of opposition to mindfuckery and rampant fetish fulfillment. Enjoy the rest of your quest.
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>>23602483
"Then what about changing her mind like that?" you ask. "We're making her feel all of this shame and unhappiness when everything that had been a problem to us is now gone. And, I mean, Breakfast was necessary, but did we need to make her a sex slave?"

"I... Okay, you may have a point there," says Liz pensively. "Maybe I was too eager to punish her... When now we're punishing someone who doesn't even remember why we were mad at her. She's more useful to us like this, but... Well, I mean, at that point, we have to consider things like spirits too. Gaviscon doesn't have the option of betraying us; the tower is powered by summoned elementals. I don't know if there's a way to actually survive here without exploiting something somehow."

"But a person?" you ask. "My dad says it's better for something to keep existing modified than to just die. I'm inclined to believe him - after all, if anything knows how the afterlife works, it should be him, right? What if we've already crossed the line?"

"Do you think we have?" she asks.

What do you say?
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>>23602491
I think we've made some difficult decisions, but ultimately as long as we understand that, we haven't crossed the line.

You did remember to make the shame wear off over time on Lunch, right?
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>>23602522
this about sums it up.
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>>23602491
>implying there's a line
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>>23602522
Agreed.
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>>23602522

this
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>>23602491
"Maybe, but I don't know if it's possible to get through this place alive without tough choices. I just want to keep the people I care about safe, and if we have to do some bad things along the way to make it happen, then so be it."
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>>23602491
Doubt doesn't just come out of nowhere. If we're doubting it in-character, we probably already have crossed the line.
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>>23602491
"I really hope not. Maybe still having these doubts is what separates us from those remorseless murderers in Dextra. At least I hope so."
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>>23602522
This.
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No, we didn't cross any line, for fuck's sake. There are things way worse than that. Changing people at least gives them a new life they can be happy with, while we could have simply ended them; or worse, ruined their lives and let them remember it to hold a perpetual grudge, preventing them frome ver moving on.
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>>23602522

Yeah, basically anything else I could say would boil down to this.
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>>23602491
>"Do you think we have?"
nope
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>>23602491
This >>23602522

Maybe make the shame wear off faster when dad gives her brain a lookover.

I don't want to deal with the too lewd for another week.
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>>23601908
look some people here are proposing flat out evil. We are both trying to talk then down. Your moral minimum is just higher than the consensus decision. Pleas help me keep the evil in check but dont bother derailing and getting upset when people are less moral or more risk adverse than you in evil Murder Hogwarts.
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>>23602522
"I might not have to turn this person into a sex slave, but it was a really hard call so I guess it's okay."

Having a tough time deciding doesn't answer whether the action in question is wrong or not.
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>>23602522
This. At least we're willing to question whether we've done the right thing, so even if we're skirting the edges, we're not evil. Evil Max wouldn't even ask herself these questions, let alone voice doubts to Liz.
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>>23602588
Seconded.
>>23602579
What separates us from dextra is that we aren't ideologues about it, and we have much better target identification.
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>>23602593

I'd like it if she breaks it out once in a while, but not freaking constantly.
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>>23602583
Doesn't make turning her into a sex slave any less bad.
>>23602595
When their answer is "nope", it really makes me doubt that morality is even a consideration.

Liz is wondering if we went too far. LIZ, the one who was so insistent on punishing her. If that's not grounds for an honest-re-evaluation of our solution nothing is.
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>>23602491
"I don't know, and honestly I don't care if we have or have not as much as I probably should. I don't think we did this time, we dealt with a threat and instead of killing her we gave her a new life where she can be happy.

My highest priority is keeping everyone here, our little dysfunctional family, safe, happy, and strong enough to deal with any threats that come our way, everything else is secondary.

I have no problems with crossing any lines if that's what is needed."

Hug Liz, cuddle up to her, give her some kisses.
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>>23602658
You do realize half of the point of the post was to tell you to stop being stupidly optimistic.
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>>23602658
>it really makes me doubt that morality is even a consideration.
For me, it's not. If you have to consider morality in the first place, your morality is already fucked up. Whether that matters is another question.
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>>23602660
Seriously? The question is "were we wrong", and your answer is "if it's for the right reasons, even doing something wrong is right".

We have a chance here to correct a possible wrong, and we're really not even going to contemplate it?
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>>23602658
Liz is not wondering if we went to far. She is worried that her mistress is upset that she went as far as she did. There's a difference.
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>>23602708
We have contemplated it, and come to a different conclusion from you, deal with it.
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>>23602658
Compared to pragmatism and keeping our people safe 'morality' is overrated.

Liz isn't sure about punishing her, once the setting of her being embarrassed and ashamed of what she was doing fades, she'll be a happy assistant/slut for us, have a new life where she's taken care of, and is far better than the alternatives and won't be being punished any more.

>>23602708
I said "I don't think we were wrong on this one but I'm willing to cross the line if it's needed".
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>>23602522
This one sounds good to me.
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>>23602680
Yeah, I got that. But if the shoulder-angel rolls over, it's game over.
>>23602704
But this is an unusual circumstance. It calls for careful consideration, in my view, and I'd like for us to at least continue the discussion in-character. Maybe ask Dimitri where to draw the line, or even ask Liz if SHE feels like we crossed the line. Ultimately, all she'd done so far is express some doubt.

I really think we should give this new line a thorough appraisal.
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>>23602733
>have a new life where she's taken care of, and is far better than the alternatives and won't be being punished any more.
And she's guaranteed a far more enjoyable sex life than she was likely to have back in Japan.
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>>23602762
>And she's guaranteed a far more enjoyable sex life than she was likely to have back in Japan.

Well yeah, but she would've gotten that even if we'd killed her.
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>>23602714
>Maybe I was too eager to punish her... When now we're punishing someone who doesn't even remember why we were mad at her.
Sounds like doubt to me, cap'n.
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>>23602708

There is no wrong done, though.
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>>23602491
I dont know i think these questions mean that even if we have we haven't crossed all the way. We might be straddling it but that is probably better than being dead and certainly better than letting my family die.
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>>23602794
>turning a person into a sex slave
>not wrong
>even the characters at murderhogwarts are starting to wonder if maybe they made a mistake
Try again. There are valid counterarguments, but "no wrong was done" is not one of them. At BEST you could argue that it's an "eye for an eye", but even that's been called out as being the wrong attitude.
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>>23602761
>shoulder-angel rolls over, it's game over.
What?
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>>23602761
Fuck drawing lines like that. Pragmatism takes precedence over morality, we aren't random puppy kicking evil, but there's no way we should let wondering if we're a good person interfere with doing what's best for us and our family.

Stop trying to take the moral high ground, it's getting shelled by artillery, the trenches are the smart place to be. Stop looking at it in terms of good and evil, it gets in the way, promotes bitchfests, and just doesn't work.

>>23602829
We had two options after capturing her, kill her or mindfuck her, if we're mindfucking her we may as well make use of her so us and our Dad can get another person to Drain.

The only concern of note is whether we should keep her from fully enjoying being fucked or keep some of the embarrassment in.
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>>23602816
If we asked around to see if there was a way to try for a "lighter Lunch" that was less invasive but still kept her from being a threat, and it turned out there was, would you consider it?

Because telling Liz "nah, we're still good" would close that possibility off. Probably for good.

And if it turned out there wasn't, I'd shut up.
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>>23602829
You know what, I disliked the way we reprogrammed Lunch, but right now I just want you to shut up.
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"I don't know," you admit. "I don't think we have. I think we're getting close, but I don't think we have. If we ever stop doubting, though... We'll have probably crossed it by then."

"That makes sense to me," says Liz. "Maybe we should be careful in the future."

"Maybe," you agree. "We went a little bit beyond just making her no longer a threat to us."

"That reminds me," you say. "You did make it so that shame would fade over time, right? We want her to be happy with her new life eventually, not constantly doubting and self-loathing."

"Uh..." says Liz. "Whoops?"

And that's where I'm going to end it for tonight.
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>>23602900

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

Well, we'd better fix that later then.
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>>23602861
Seriously, is this an expression or something?
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>>23602900
God damn it femcock!
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>>23602900
"You know, I think I'm going to have Lunch spank you."
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>>23602861
It means I'm trying to play the tough gig of being our collective conscience, and if I stop then that role goes vacant.
>>23602864
That isn't true. We have never thoroughly explored the minimum amount of mindfucking we could do to keep us safe and subsequently treating her like a friendly NPC. Don't pretend like that's not an alternative to killing or full sex slave.
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>>23602900
Well, we can fix that when we wake up. Good thing we caught it now though.
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>>23602923
Seconded! (And Liz -does- have her safeword if that's too much for her.)
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>>23602913
they mean the little proverbial angel and devil on everyone's shoulder.
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>>23602913
Shoulder angel is a metaphoric term to describe the "good" side of your conscience. Rolling over means to give up.
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>>23602923
That would mess up the whole hierarchy if we let Lunch dominate her like that.

Max should spank her, then we go make the alterations to Lunch.
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>>23602900
Haha. It looks like it's spanking and kinky sex time with Liz.

We'll be sure to fix that in the morning. Set it to degrade to a lower point. I still want some embarrassment, her being shy is cute as fuck, having her try to cover herself up from people watching as she's sitting on our lap and getting fucked, hot as can be. Or us making her expose herself to us while she looks slightly reluctant but excited about what's going to happen.

>>23602923
Definitely a no. We're the one who gets to spank Liz.
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>>23602961
Not if we order Lunch to administer her punishment. It would still be us in control, she'd just be our tool in this situation.
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>>23602957
Thankee sai.
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>>23602491
>"Do you think we have?" she asks.

"I don't know, but I love you and will do everything I can to keep you safe.... but I hate what this place is making me do. What kind of people will be next year? Will I be a monster? Will you?"
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>>23602999
>slowpoke.jpg
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>>23602999
Less angst please.
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>>23602658
The people going "nope" are why we need you. But again we went darker than your minimum on this pleas let it rest, it is siting right on or just below my bottom line and i am. Pleas let it go and help me fight it next time. We can't convince the "nope"s we can at least help the others but if we whine about it now and have sour grapes they wont listen when we can change things for the better again later. This time we stopped them going full Breakfast i call that a win.
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>>23602829
The characters are wondering because we were discussing it, I think.

>>23602900
Well, no need to change it for now.
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>>23603005
I swear, there's a guy who does this almost every thread.
I think he might be doing it on purpose.
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>>23603009
No-one was ever suggesting going full-breakfast.

Also, please has an e on the end.
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>>23602999
>>23603007
>Less angst please.

Not angst, more a tie-in to max's feelings about not knowing why she was a freak
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>>23602983
Not only that, but we get to tease Lunch about how lewd she is for enjoying punishing Liz like that.
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>>23602923
Let the punishment fit the crime!
>>23602977
I was never happy with her embarrassment anyway. I vote we lower her libdo and embarrassment and up her submissiveness and eagerness to please.
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>>23602932
The only questionable thing on our list of alterations is the shame part.

Jacking up her loyalty, obedience, and dependence on us is just common sense. Making her horny is good as she's going to get fucked and Drained.

We don't need a collective conscience, we didn't vote on you, and all you really do is kvetch when we do something that makes you uncomfortable and it's annoying and not helpful.
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>>23603041

I like her being horny and embarrassed, I just don't want it 24/7.
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>>23602900
You know, before I waltz off in frustration to make dinner, I'd like to make a suggestion.

Since we have to go back into her mind anyway, why not... you know, have a look around while we're there? We know very little about what she was like before we turned her into lunch, and some of that is probably still bouncing around in there.

It does us no harm, and may settle the question of whether she'd have been open to diplomacy or limited mind-control. It settles the argument, and shows Max and Liz if they really did go too far, helping resolve the issue for any future case where we might need to go inside someone's head.

I mean, really, what would be wrong with that?
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>>23603049
It would give you an inch.
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>>23603049

Well, we were rooting around in her brainpan before now, and our favorite questrunner (questmaster?) didn't bring anything of that nature up. Then again, we didn't ask about it either, so maybe we could take a look at it when we fix Lunch's mind properly.
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>>23603055
I would give you the whole mile, baby.
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>>23603049
It's gone, we stripped all her old life out of her head. Enjoy your frustrated dinner, salty tears of rage always make food better.
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>>23602882
Ooc i would that was me Ic and compressing that general idea and a resignation that we probably missed that chance into her response to Liz as well as a lot of other stuff.
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>>23603066
Whoops, read your post as
>I would give you an inch.
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>>23603046
Making her horny is what turns "rendering her safe" into "turning her into a sex slave".

If that isn't something that would bother your conscience, then you need some outside critique more than you think.
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We still need to make Lunch more catlike.

nya~!
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>>23603049
Diplomacy was a terrible solution and you should feel bad if you brought it up as a legitimate idea at the time. There is no benefit at all to the 'limited mind control' that you so desperately want, none at all, no advantages over what we're doing with her and plenty of possible disadvantages.

We could not have been friends, we could not trust her, we could not talk it out, stop being silly.
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>>23603107
I like you.
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>>23603049
True, it would be better to wring as much information as possible about her family's organization and the threat they pose to us and mom out of Lunch ASAP. There are also probably some dangerous memories (contingencies in case of capture, family allies and minions contact info...) that we really ought to erase.
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>>23603103
Seconded. We can do that when we go in to fix her overshame problem. Then there will be no question of her relation to Breakfast!
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>>23603103
Hell I second that if only to make the self-proclaimed moral champions of BFQ mad.
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>>23603103
Yes we do.
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>>23603101
Her name is fucking Lunch. She was going to get fucked by us and Dad, half the reason we got her was for a food source for us. We were going to fuck her and drain her. I'd rather have her enjoy her place in our home.

>>23603103
I agree completely. Can we also add in some masochism? Because I do want to be able to make her cum just from us spanking her.
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>>23603069
And yet she still has some memories of her favorite hobbies, free-running, movies, and similar. For someone we mind-wiped as cleanly as you seem to think, she seems to remember quite a bit.

Don't try so hard to be right and maybe you'll be wrong less often.
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>>23603103
We already did that with Breakfast. Its getting annoying. Can't the Maidfags get a turn?
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>>23603168
Why not both?
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>>23603069
>It's gone, we stripped all her old life out of her head. Enjoy your frustrated dinner, salty tears of rage always make food better.

We didn't, their family did. We just changed her name
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>>23603177
works for me
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>>23603030
some people were advocating taking all of her memories and magic on top of what we did do. If that is not full Breakfast i am afraid to see what is.
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>>23603208
Breakfast is full Breakfast.
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>>23603189
Fuck, you're right. We need to correct that since apparently Liz was too soft.
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>>23603048
we might want to tone it down but i think toning down the shame on its own will have the desired effect if not we can do that later. Ok?
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>>23603208
>advocating taking all of her memories
No-one said that. Some people were sujecting we remove her memories of meeting us personally then releasing her, but that's retarded for it's own reasons.

>and magic
Not all of it, just enough that she's not a danger to us. She'll be fine with just one box in everything. Frankly, anything that would need more than one box dedicated to it would be something I wouldn't want a minion handling anyway.
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>>23603208
Take a look at Breakfast's sheet.
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>>23603064
actually i did ask how he family and her would react to her being returned unmodified.
I never got an answer but it would have shed a lot of light on the situation.
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>>23603048
I'd prefer her lidibo to be at normal horny teenager levels. As for embarrassment, I'm fine with keeping it if you insist, but I want her submissiveness and eagerness to please to be her defining characteristics, not her embarrassment.
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>>23603297

I'm thinking blushing while grinning as she slips her panties down, exposing her pale thighs for us and bending over. That sort of embarrassment; enough to turn her cheeks red, but not enough for her to stop enjoying or stop doing sexy things.
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>>23603318
now that works.
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>>23603241
>Fuck, you're right. We need to correct that since apparently Liz was too soft.

how else would she have hobbies and skills and desires?

Fuck erasing everything - we're leaving her sorcery intact so she can crank out foci for us, and we might as well leave enough so she's a decent conversationalist.

If she's gonna be a houseservant/maid/lunch, she MIGHT as well be someone intelligent enough to a) supervise breakfast and B) not kill selene through negligence while everyones out on business
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>>23603208
Breakfast was a hatchet job. We rebuilt her as much as we could, but Dad basically completely fried her mind out. At least with Lunch we saved as much as we could so she wasn't starting as a mindless cockslave.
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>>23603349

She's not good with kids, though. I suppose she could supervise Breakfast while Breakfast watches Selene.
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>>23603318
Embarrassed enough to be cute, but not so embarrassed that she'll actually say 'no'.
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>>23603288
It would've been an absurdly fucking stupid risk to take that ended with us getting abso-fucking-lutely nothing out of this chain of events.

>>23603297
I want a lot of horniness, I'm good with submissiveness and eagerness but I really do like her being embarrassed. Her seeing someone else in the room as she gives us a blowjob and trying to hide her face by deepthroating us, we're fucking her in the ass and she's moaning and screaming and trying to stretch her hoodie to cover her dripping pussy with Lin is watching and masturbating. Us making her hoodie smell like sex and cum, letting it be the only thing she can wear so she has to decide between going completely naked or partially covering herself but smelling sex and cum all day leading to her constantly being wet.

>>23603318
That scenario makes no sense, when would she ever wear panties?
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How the fuck did Dad mind laser Breakfast so hard anyway? We did a super prepared group mind laser on Lunch and she's nowhere near as bad.
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>>23603384
Because Dad mindfucked Breakfast while he was panicked, hungry and not in a calm state of mind. The fact that she has any mind at all speaks for his skill at enchantment.
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>>23603380
And I, and other apparently, really don't.
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>>23603380

So we can command her to take them off for us!
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>>23603384
It was a high-power, rape fueled hit and run. Not a lot of room for preparation for being delicate or subtle.
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>>23603404
We were trying to be delicate and subtle when we hit Lunch?
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>>23602900
Thanks for giving us the option to reconsider the ethical ramifications of what we as a collective did to Lunch, and thanks for leaving a possible pretense to go back into her mind at a later date. It really makes me think that perhaps you too are at least somewhat displeased at how off-the-rails this whole thing with Lunch has gone, or that at least you've noticed that there's a subset of your players who have gotten overruled on every major decision recently. That's good management.

Maybe a few of them will entertain the possibility that they might have been in the wrong. Maybe one or two might consider that we really have no idea how Kaoru would have reacted aside from the results of guesswork and assumptions. But ultimately, I am one of maybe two people still involved in this thing who didn't have their minds made up before the fight was even over that they wanted another mindbroken fucktoy.

So I appreciate the effort to give at least a chance to expand Lunch's character a bit, and to maybe grow Liz and Max into slightly more experienced characters who consider their actions more carefully. But as they're so fond of saying, this IS "Blatant Fetish Quest", and what the dick is determined to get the dick will end up getting.

You're pretty good at running these threads, and so long as you and your playerbase are having fun, I'll leave you to it. I just hope the next thread you run will be one that I'll actually enjoy too. But until then, I won't impose.
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>>23603240
>>23603273
I meant if what i described was not the way Breakfast was made, then i am afraid to see the proses. The results are a different matter.
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>>23603384
5 dots in Enchantment, maybe a Temp Foci or two, not a single care over how much he damaged her, and Draining her to recharge enough to keep on breaking it.

To use a metaphor what we did with Lunch was pick the lock on her mind's door and rearrange the furniture and take a few things. Dad bashed Breakfast's door open with a sledge hammer and went apeshit on the interior design work.
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>>23603424
We jumped in and took a look around to see what would be useful to keep, so I'm gonna give a tentative yes.
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>>23603168
Ive been saying to make Breakfast a Mexican Catmaid since maids were brought up, but no one seems to want to.
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>>23603438
Perhaps he used her virginity as a unique temporary focus.
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>>23603430
Nope
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>>23603268
Both of those proposals happened at least once virtually everyone else shot it down as dumb. But they were suggested.
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>>23603403
That's what the hoodie is for, we can order her to lift it up for us and show us how wet she is.
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>>23603430
Hahahahahaha, are you fucking serious?
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>>23603454
I want to. We just get overruled by the "lol naked" crowed every time.
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>>23603424
We took Lunch (I think) to zero mind with our attack. Dad, through the power of plot or off screen dice rolls, put Breakfast in the negatives.
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>>23603467
Very temporary.
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>>23603438
>To use a metaphor what we did with Lunch was pick the lock on her mind's door and rearrange the furniture and take a few things.
And accidentally set off a trap that started a fire to burn away certain secrets.
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>>23603478
I thought we were transitioning to her as an obedient maid?
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>>23603430
You sound like such a tool.
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>>23603430

lol wwhat?

Please leave and enver come back.
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>>23603077
I did too.

>>23603101
No, the fucking is what makes her a sex slave. The horniness just allows her to get some pleasure from it.

>>23603168
Considering she's already our cook this seems like a good way to go. We should get her something better than spam as soon as we can.

>>23603384
We don't know. We decided to ask him at one point, but we haven't actually done so yet.

>>23603430
The only thing I'd want to change with her at this point is to add the masochism like we talked about at one point.
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>>23603380
How is probing her mind for how she and her family would react a stupid plan? Handing her over probably is. But there is an off chance it would win us an alliance. So why is asking the question of an unconscious mind that cant lie a stupid idea? I can imagine no risk in that plan.
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>>23603430
Less 'give her the D' and more 'give her TO the D'
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>>23602900
Good job handling the threads ethical debate.
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>>23603501
Yeah, that too. There was a security safe that was tripped and burned its contents.

>>23603487
We took Lunch to a temporary 0 mind, we shocked her, stunned her, Dad broke Breakfast.

>>23603509
I dunno, I like the hoodie, but I'd be perfectly fine if she wore a maid outfit.

I'd prefer a historically accurate Victorian Maid outfit over a fetish one, but that's mainly because I like period costumes.

>>23603430
What the fuck are you smoking? Because if it makes people that delusional I want some.

Most of the last posts were directly against what you were saying, and then us rejecting what you've been saying.

Go away, you're not wanted, you're obnoxious and arrogant.
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>>23603541
>Saging when the thread is in autosage on page 10
That's doing nothing.

And even if it weren't, you know saging is being a dick if you're not trying to get rid of the thread, right?
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We are not archived
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>>23603509
I still feel like Breakfast makes a better maid. Eternally cheery and eager to please. And dont forget that delicious brown skin to contrast the pure blacks and whites of the maid outfit so wonderfully, not to mention the figure to fill it out. She was practically made to be a maid.

You could say she was...maid to order.
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>>23603543
I was referring to handing her over. Terrible plan, and even if she thought it might work we still shouldn't have done it as she is not in charge of the clan.
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>>23603571
Why not get Lunch a whole wardrobe of costumes.

No reason to make her stick with a single fetish outfit.
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>>23603377
yes that is ideal or we give her a safe word so she can say no and not mean it. we can still overrule her safe word but wont without a good reason.
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