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Rolled 25, 65, 89, 59 = 238

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>>23528551

"Let's do it now," you say. "And be ready with fire spells in case she's not incapacitated. That might penetrate her kinetic shielding. Let's have Gaviscon on standby too. The plan is to either kill her or, if she's incapacitated, get her in one of the cells in the basement. And for the love of god, make sure Breakfast is keeping Selene safe somewhere else."

You all head up to the inbound teleportation circle and set up all the foci. Your dad's going to be leading with you guys assisting, for obvious reasons, so you hand him your mental attack ring and Liz hands him her permanent teleportation focus for extra aid.

Roll Samyaza's Enchantment for the mind-strike. He gets a +3 from people aiding, a +1 from the permanent focus, and a +8 from temporary foci. I'll consider the first 16 linked 1d100 rolls.
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Rolled 71

>>23532345
Gotcha, let's do this.
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Rolled 34

>>23532345
>We turn her into lunch
I hope you guys are ready for a mind rape scene!
With the girl screaming in horror and terror as she realises that all vestiges of her personality and self are being destroyed to leave only an empty shell that will be used as a fuck toy.
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Rolled 56

>>23532345
Please dice gods hear my prayer,
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Rolled 53

>>23532345
>16 rolls
I swear, if this fails...
Dice gods dont fail me now!
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Rolled 82

>>23532345
Rock ooon.
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Rolled 14

>>23532345
>tempting fate
>1s inbound
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Rolled 37

>>23532345
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Rolled 68

>>23532345
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Rolled 38

>>23532345
Fuck her up.
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>>23532345
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Rolled 99

>>23532345
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Rolled 60

>>23532345
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Rolled 23

>>23532345
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Rolled 54

>>23532345

Come the fuck on, let's do this.
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Rolled 69

>>23532345
Wouldn't that be 17 d100?
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Rolled 86

>>23532345
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Rolled 95

>>23532345
KO
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>>23532402
You're right. 17d100 it is.
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Rolled 94

>>23532345
Boom.
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>>23532402
It is 17. Are we incurring some penalty?
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Rolled 88

>>23532345
>>23532413

Either way....
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5 SUCCESSES
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Rolled 8

>>23532345
Mother Fucking mind bluets
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>>23532411
>>23532403
>>23532392
>>23532377
>>23532364
Fine work. 5 against 1 is a victory any day.
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>6 successes, multiple 90s
Fack yiss.
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Rolled 42

6 out of 17, average.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=blatant+fetish+quest
The previous thread is now archived. Remember to vote it up.
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>>23532425
No, 6
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5 Successes

You can do anything with a big enough pool!
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Rolled 6

>>23532428
6, it's 17 not 16
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>>23532413
So with that, I count six successes, several of which are 90+.

I like those numbers.
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She had 3 rolls of her own last time to defend against a mental attack. She's so fucked.

Now all we gotta do is not botch the extraction.
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>>23532434
Yup. She's down for the count. Now I think we bring her in, sift through her mind for any pertinent information, and then Lunchify her.
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>>23532411
>>23532403
>>23532392
>>23532377
>>23532364
>>23532415
6
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>>23532427
gotta love the tenacious D
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>>23532466
I think Liz Gets the honors of breaking her with our and dads help obviously. It can teach her and fill her last pixal on enchantment
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>>23532364
>>23532377
>>23532392
>>23532403
>>23532411
>>23532415
You feel the spell go off - and it goes off hard. It's almost frightening, really. It reminds you of all the lessons you've had so far about preparation for spells, the warnings you've been given against trying to wing it. The realization that you could be on the receiving end of one of these from anyone with the time and patience to collect enough foci... Well, it's food for thought.

"Good," your father says. "That went off well. If she managed to withstand that, we have a lot to worry about. Keep on your toes, people. Let's summon her now."

Roll Samyaza's Conjuration. He gets a +3 from people helping him, a +1 from the permanent focus, and a +5 from temporary foci. I'll consider the first 13 linked 1d100 rolls.
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>>23532507
It'll be a bonding teaching moment.

And once broken since Liz has that nice new dildo of hers us, her, and Dad can fuck our new Lunch.

Lin can watch and take commemorative pictures.
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>>23532507
I do believe the breaking has already occurred.
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>>23532507
If you mean mindbreaking, sure. But I thoroughly suggest that everyone with a dick take her all at the same time. It'll be a nice family bonding moment for the scrapbook.

The caption will be - 'March Fifth, 2013 - Breaking the Bitch'
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Rolled 58

>>23532535
Let's bring her in, be prepared to take her down if needed.
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Rolled 10

>>23532535
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Rolled 32

>>23532535
Let's do this
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Rolled 19

>>23532535
Please based dice Gods.
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Rolled 4

>>23532535
Oh boy
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Rolled 77

>>23532535
Let's do this.
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Rolled 22

>>23532535
I think the dice are apologizing for yesterday now.
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Rolled 52

>>23532535

P-pls....
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>>23532507
My body is not ready, but I don't even care. I don't need a dick after this.
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Rolled 42

>>23532535
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Rolled 22

>>23532535
Pull!

...I don't have to note I fear dad a little bit, now that we've got a proper taste of his power, right? And I'm not the only one?
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Rolled 15

>>23532535
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Rolled 14

>>23532535
Rolling. She shouldn't be able to resist this.
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Rolled 42

>>23532535
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Rolled 97

>>23532535

GET OVER HERE!
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Rolled 10

>>23532535
Successes?
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Rolled 9

>>23532535
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>>23532562

our only success....
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>>23532562
1 success.
Out of 13.
Bwahahaa
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>>23532562
>>23532576
Two successes, since she won't be resisting, hopefully that's enough.
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>>23532562
>>23532576
fucking two
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Rolled 56

>>23532539
yes that is what i meant and of coarse we take pictures.
>>23532535
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Oh, fuck. 1 success.
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>>23532581

Fuck, just one success. If it was 14, we'd have 2. Hopefully she didn't have any anti-teleportation foci active.
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Wow, went from really good to HURR IMMA DURR just like that.
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>>23532616
She would've had to activate them, which she can't do while mindfucked, so hopefully she won't.
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Rolled 94

>>23532616
only matters if she can think enough to use them
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>>23532616
We could always scramble to draw a couple more foci and try again if it fails.
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Hopefully we can just try again if that failed. She should just be standing there mind broken.
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>>23532616
Well I doubt she'd have time to activate them after her brain randomly turned off.
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>>23532629
Unless they're permanent and running on external power
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>>23532653

This was my fear. We'll just have to see.
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>>23532634
or we just got a piece of her we should have really set up a curtain
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>>23532719
I'm pretty sure it's harder to tear someone apart than to summon them whole.
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>>23532719
I thought the plan right after the heart summon was to put one up as soon as possible.
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Rolled 11

given dads strain and Liz's skill after this they will both be equity effective for one go of teliportation.
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Rolled 64

>>23532756
me to i assumed Dad did that off screen.
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>>23532760
Liz is taking a point of Strain as well, aiding another burns one.
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>>23532562
The spell, despite all the power you guys are dumping into it, barely goes off. For a moment, in fact, you're certain that it failed. Then, with nothing more dramatic than a pop and a thud, the hoodie bitch drops into the circle. She's wearing the same clothes from yesterday, but her bandana is down around her neck and her glasses are up on her forehead. Her hood is down too. You recognize her from your class.

She's a Japanese girl near the middle of your class. Long hair, dark, pretty face, flat chest. She's specialized in Conjuration and Sorcery. Most of her in-class solutions were to summon specialized spirits and bind them to do things for her. Nobody was ever sure which society she belonged to. You would think she was unconscious, but her eyes are half-open as she drools limply on the ground.

"Isn't that Kaoru?" asks Liz.

What now?
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>>23532535
On the very off chance this works, ask dad if we should temporarily disrupt the incoming teleportation circle to prevent possible reprisal from her society.
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Rolled 88

>>23532811

Make absolutely sure that this girl is incapped. Then restrain her anyways.
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>>23532811
>"Isn't that Kaoru?" asks Liz.
"No. That's Lunch."
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>>23532811
"Looks like it. I couldn't tell when she had her face covered up."
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>>23532811
no.... thats Lunch
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>>23532811

Probe that bitch.

First the mind, then the pussy.
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>>23532811
See if there's any useful information left in her mind. Or any at all, really.
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>>23532811
First things first, we need to take a look in what's left of her mind for memories and such that will be useful. About her minions, her base locations, any foci she might have and so on.
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>>23532795
Are you sure? i dont remember for certan

Also we need a set of these full of various temporary foci in one of our new rooms.
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So how do you target someone that you don't even know the location of or the identity of?

Did I miss that?
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>>23532811
>>23532837
>>23532840
"No. That's Lunch."
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>>23532811
Interrogation time? And by interrogation, I mean mind rape.
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>>23532811
MIIIND PROBE

Jesus, we got lucky. Let's find out what she knows and whether she's enough of a threat to warrant Lunching.
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Rolled 72

>>23532811
Interrogate her before mind raping her.
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>>23532811
Restrain the fuck out of her ASAP. Does Lin know Shibari? either way, duct tape and/or zip ties work as well.

Then grab her head and root around a bit. Hopefully we didn't totally bork her melon.
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>>23532835
this fing this
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>>23532811
Restrain her, try to gain some info from the scraps, why did she attack us, what society does she belong to.
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>>23532811
"Her name is Lunch now, or Sushi.

Dad, help me take a look in her mind, she's incapacitated, but we might be able to glean useful information, where she was, how good a bolthole her old place would make, what resources she had, if she was Nemesis or not. And then we Drain her some to get our strength back and reprogram her into Lunch."
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>>23532811

"no, that's Lunch. Lets get her bound up, both physically and mentally, cant have her blowing us up mid-way during interrogation"
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>>23532855
If I had to guess, basing it on the nature of temporary foci, the link just has to be something in the wizard's mind. So long as they can see it, and channel sufficient power, it happens.

A drawing or orange and blue ovals holds no bearing for teleportation outside of the meaning Lin gave it. I assume it's the same for Max thinking "hoodiebitch gonna get it" and then channeling magic at that understood entity.
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>>23532811
Well, what about the sniper she was working with? Maybe dad could scry him/her while we take a look at what's left of her mind? Get her out of the circle so no one can use her as a target to teleport a grenade (whatever) into the one unwarned spot in our fortress, take her foci, strip her down and destroy (focus burn) all materials on her not worth keeping.
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>>23532881
Lets wait on draining until she's turned into lunch, fucking vegetables aint my thang.
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So there's no chance there'll be some kind of backlash if/when we probe her, right?

At any rate, restraints first. Keep both eyes on her.
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>>23532811
>Cute Japanese girl kidnapped and mindraped by a dickgirl.

This is just like my hentais!
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>>23532837
I like this line, but her permanent name should be Sushi.

And we should restrain and interrogate her first if we can.
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>>23532811
Restraints. Into the cells for further mindfuckery and interrogation.
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>>23532939

But Sushi doesn't fit the whole Breakfast / Lunch / Dinner combo. Definitely Lunch.
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Guys, important question. Do we name her Lunch and go racist and call her Sushi?
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>>23532903
Look, after the Interrogation, sifting through her mind, all of that, we'll be down to 1 box of Enchantment, and our Dad to 3, we'll be using Foci to help, like broken mirrors, water, blood, a collar, and so on, but if we don't get some draining in turning her into Lunch will be a bitch on fire.

>>23532902
The Sniper wasn't an ally, it was a conjured spirit, almost certainly.

>>23532811
Be sure to strip her, just on general principle.
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>>23532953

and bind her
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>>23532900

So what's to stop Dextra from going "HURRRR DEMUNZ" and just uttering the name "max" and using +100 or so extra foci to just end it?
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>>23532953
Which is why we take a break and get some Breakfast?
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>>23532939
I am voting against Sushi. Let's keep the whole Hobbit Meals Of The Day thing we're doing.
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>>23532950
Lunch. We're trying to go with a theme here.
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>>23532962
Right now? Because we're in the tower.

Every other time, I dunno. Ya got me.
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>>23532968
So this would be second breakfast?
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>>23532962
We don't let them get a good look at us, our tower wards, and soon our warding tattoos.
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>>23532972
We might actually want to be careful about the name Lunch...
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>>23532900
>hoodiebitch gonna get it
Oh god I fucking lost it.
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>>23532811

Interrogation time
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>>23532986
We should get the regular meals filled out before Liz suggests Hobbit meals to us.
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>>23532986
Second Breakfast is a terrible name. Having two cumsluts wandering around, neither of which is that smart, both named Breakfast, that won't work well. There'd be a lot of confusion.
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>>23532984
Max's Name might be in the Word. Other than that agree.
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>>23532962
We touched her mind for a second last thread.
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>>23532968
well we need to get the core 3 then we fill in all of the rest.
Besides if Breakfast has a sister who is a bitch she will make a fine Second Breakfast.
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>>23532990
Everyone has to go to classes.

And because we go to classes people know our face who are in Dextra.
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>>23532811
restrain her, then go about making sure she cant hurt any of us, then check her mind to see if its still intact, then make her loyal to us
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>>23533010
Brunch? It's a "regular meal", plus it's not Lunch. I hate that as a name.
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>>23533006
This assumes there's anything left to interrogate...
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>>23533043
They know our face, but not Us in connection with that face, just as we know "red hoodie" without knowing the actual person.
Presumably if she'd taken the hoodie off, it wouldn't have worked as well or even at all.
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>>23533001
I thought her name was Launch?
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>>23533034
That's unclear as we flubbed the role. More relevantly she saw our face and we escaped...
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also if Lunch was in our class today we can rip that memory from her mind and then making up the day should be a piece of cake.
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strip and bind her just to be safe
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>>23533085
>Lunch (ランチ Ranchi?), named Launch in the Funimation dub
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>>23533085
me to
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call her hirumeshi (that's lunch in Japanese)
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>>23533138
Hirume for short, it flows well.
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Rolled 46

>>23532962
Well, if they went around blowing up every demonic student they could find, they'd have to deal with a lot of upset societies. I'm guessing whoever runs Dextra isn't completely nuts and realizes that they wouldn't survive having more than 2 or 3 other societies seriously angry with them.
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>>23533138
>>23533148
I like it
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My only regret is that we didn't get to interrogate her while she was still intelligent. MAN would that have been some fun taunting.
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>>23533138
>>23533148
Do any of our characters know Japanese?
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>>23533163
Lin, more than likely.
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>>23533163
Our dad knows dozens of languages, so it's a distinct possibility.
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>>23533163

Lin knows the fuck out of Japanese. Max would be doing good to know Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto.
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>>23533163
Lin very well might, our Dad is OLD so he probably picked it up as well.
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"No, it's Lunch," you say grimly. Liz looks at you, then nods.

"Let's get her shackled downstairs. Then we can take a look and see how much of her mind is intact." Your dad tosses her limp body over his shoulder, then carries her down to the jail and slaps her into some manacles. She just slumps there, seemingly unconscious. "There we go. She shouldn't be able to break free of those without a key, nor use any of her magic. What do you want to do now, Max?"

What now?
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>>23533179

>Seemingly
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>>23533066
Did we destroy her mind or just knock her out?
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>>23533179
>What now?
>Then we can take a look and see how much of her mind is intact
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>>23533179
Well, if she's trapped in the manacles, we can go gather some more foci for our mind probing and rebuilding.
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>>23533179
Is dad starting the fuckery now or later?
Because I wanna participate.
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>>23533179
Lets do some rummaging, Find out why she attacked us and what society she was part of.
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>>23533179
"Well, let's take a look inside her head. See if there's any salvageable information left. We know the location of her main base, but she may have more, and they're all certainly trapped.
If at all possible, I'd like to know how to get past her traps and wards."
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>>23533179
Had Dad get some Foci for mind investigation and fuckery. Keep a very close eye on her, strip her completely, rip her clothes off if the manacles get in the way of doing that.

Once we have Foci it's time to play a game called going through her memory, finding any pertinent information, and then reprogramming her as Hirume, our Japanese cock worshipping slut.
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>>23533179
time for a mind probe have dad walk Lis and us through the basics Lin to if she wants.
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>>23533179
It is mindprobing time
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>>23533200
Well, it's time to find that out, now isn't it?
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>>23533221

This could work. Leave Dad down there to watch over her in case she tries anything funny while we get more foci to rearrange her mind.
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>>23533179
Try to scrounge up whatever information is left intact in her brain. Bases, foci, traps, that sort of thing.

I'd also be curious as to why she targeted Max, if that info is still in there. I'm assuming she noticed us following her back when we found her base, but it would be good to know for sure.
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>>23533179
She had at least one partner, we need to make sure they aren't after us now, ask Dimitry what we should do about them
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>>23533157

Yeah, mind rape is a shitty plot device.
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>>23533179
check her mind maybe we can free some of the people she captured see if she remembers anything about her sanctum see whats left
also take off her clothing careful they could be trapped

temp foci
the google logo on paper, magnifying glass, a telescope/periscope/calidescope ,
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>>23533179
Ask if it's worth disabling the inbound teleport circle, or at least erecting blast shielding around it? Check that Liz and Lin are still feeling alright about what we just did and generally try lowering the group's tension level without totally relaxing our guard.
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>>23533179

COMMENCE MIND RAPE

INSERT OUR COLLECTIVE MENTAL TENDRILS INTO HER SUBCONSCIOUS ORIFICES
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Don't forget to alchemy her tubes like we did with Breakfast.

We don't want no babies that aren't dryads.
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>>23533268
Except no, it's most likely she didn't have a partner. She binds spirits to do things for her, remember? Anyway, if we find info to the contrary then cool. If we don't, whatever.

Also, it might be good to use her as a training tool, if that ends up being feasible.
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>>23533314
Watch us botch this role
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>>23532442
>You can do anything with a big enough pool!

SHADOWRUN LOGIC
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>>23533314

you made me lose my beer, you asshole
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>>23533285
i bet she is just unconscious yesterday she rolled 3 dice to defense today she had one success to our 5 so that means she probably had 3 mind and we strained 3 with only 1 left over for extra effects so i figure she is broken not destroyed. only one way to find out though.
Lets make it a Learning experience.
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>>23533328
Thank you for remembering that. Knew I was forgetting something.
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>>23533307
The inbound circle is just for people with a house key. For those without, it's just as warded as any other part of the house.
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>>23533332
I like second ed trolls,
"I have a million dice and my target numbers are twos!"
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>>23533328
It would probably be more human to do this while she isn't really aware of what's happening
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>>23533329
She had an associate, bound demon, helper, whatever. It shot at us, we need to know if it's still after us...
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>>23533332
>SHADOWRUN LOGIC
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>>23533364
I have no idea how I missed that...
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>>23533179
>"Let's get her shackled downstairs. Then we can take a look and see how much of her mind is intact." Your dad tosses her limp body over his shoulder, then carries her down to the jail and slaps her into some manacles. She just slumps there, seemingly unconscious. "There we go. She shouldn't be able to break free of those without a key, nor use any of her magic. What do you want to do now, Max?"

"This isn't a coincidence. We need to figure out who the sniper is and take them out too. My gut instinct says that this may be sanjay messing with us one step remove - the timing for him to join lotus after a month is just so perfect.... but it may just be because we found her sanctum. Still. She wasn't into Enchantment - or mind control. What if she's the one being USED?"
"We need to find out why this is happening first."
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>>23533179
Let's see if we can interrogate her mind-to-mind while she's unconscious. That might give us an edge when battling wills.
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>>23533418
Nigga you just went full Dane.
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>>23533418
I seriously doubt that, but we'll take a look around the old attic and see what comes up.
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>>23533418
>hur dur
Conjuration can be used like enchantment against spirits
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>>23533329
We should find her mindslave, though. Maybe we can rehabilitate them and gain an ally. Don't bring them to the tower, obviously, but we could still help them.
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>>23533430
>The gapedrank is poison!
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>>23533418

Hello Tzeench. glad you decided to join us
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>>23533332
It's also Exalted/WoD logic.

The assisted rolls in our current Space Opera campaign get ridiculous.
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"Let's see what we have to work with," you say.

"I would like a look too," says Liz. "I haven't gotten to try probing someone's mind yet."

"Oh, me too," says Lin, disappointingly. "I'm all tapped out when it comes to Enchantment at the moment, though."

"I'll give you three some help too," your dad says.

Roll Enchantment. You get a +2 from Liz and your dad assisting you. I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.
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>>23533461
It's the logic of all shitty dice pool systems.
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Rolled 28

>>23533462
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Rolled 36

>>23533462
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Rolled 61

>>23533462
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Rolled 21

>>23533462
All about the failtrain
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Rolled 2

>>23533462
Can we bring in a Foci or two before we start?
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>>23533468
>>23533469
>>23533470
>>23533473
Well fuck.
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Rolled 28

>>23533468
>>23533469
>>23533470
>>23533473

/tg/ never fails.
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>>23533468
>>23533469
>>23533470
>>23533473
Let's try again later when we've had a chance to rest and gather some foci, at least we didn't critfail her brain out her ears.
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>>23533468
>>23533469
>>23533470
>>23533473
Goddamnit.
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God we suck, get breakfast, get our energy back, and get some foci.
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>>23533468
>>23533469
>>23533470
>>23533473
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>>23533491

Yeah, this is the wise course of action. Post a guard on the girl until we're rested up and ready to mold her brain like putty.
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>>23533382
As I've said NUMEROUS TIMES, when we look, then we'll know. But until then, there's no sense arguing about it.
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>>23533496
This. I refuse to let this go
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>>23533468
>>23533469
>>23533470
>>23533473
Well, at least we dodged >>23533475
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We just broke her brain, didn't we? Fuck dice.

>>23533506
I declare this image to be the official badge of this quest.
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>>23533462
Yeah, at this point we need to strip search her for any foci and rest up.
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"Well, that didn't work," says your father. "Do you want to go recover? Maybe grab some foci? Maybe assist me instead of the other way around?"

"I'm done for now," says Liz. "Unless we're going to try again later instead, I'll have to sit this part out with Lin."

What do you do?
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>>23533526
A critfail would've broken her brain, we just didn't get anything useful.
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>>23533532
"Can you keep an eye on her while I go grab some Breakfast and some focii?"
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>>23533532

dad primary, lets go along for the ride this time
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>>23533532
Yeah, let's grab some foci and have a quick Breakfast, then assist Dimitri.
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>>23533532
"I'm gonna get some breakfast, someone watch her."
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>>23533532
>breakfast
>foci
>fuckery
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>>23533558
>>23533545
Maybe by the time we do this theyll be rested up, too.
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>>23533566
no no no
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>>23533467
Speaking of shitty dice systems, the not-so-RNG seed strikes again.
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>>23533532
Have some Breakfast quickly, then grab a pile of Foci. A mirror, a lens, a bowl of water, image of an eye, that sort of thing.
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>>23533579
Thats the same thing everyone else is saying.

Do you mean yes yes yes?
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>>23533609
Goddamit, do we need a poster safe word too now?
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>>23533532
Have some breakfast, drag in some foci, and try it again.
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>>23533639
I vote for "teacup"
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>>23533575
ye this is good I am happy with Lin looking at our new pets brain but this should be Liz's first mind Break. If she isn't already.
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>>23533609

I think he means Breakfast, Foci, Mindfuckery, then literal fuckery. That third step is important.
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Have we decided what personality traits we want to add to her when we reformat her mind? I hope we plan to control her with something other than a massive libdo, as amusing as breakfast is. I vote we imbue her with a servant mentality
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>>23533639
Tubalcain
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>>23533475
>Can we bring in a Foci or two before we start?

Retry. Use foci.

Use some of her things as foci - due to the connection with her.
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>>23533652
Mah homie.
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>>23533658
Slutty-on-the-inside maid.
Maybe TFed into lamia later
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>>23533639

Concrete.
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>>23533658
I think the more important question is, are we going to dress her up like a japanese schoolgirl.
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>>23533532
>"I'm done for now," says Liz. "Unless we're going to try again later instead, I'll have to sit this part out with Lin."

"dad, can we use enchantment to let them see what we see? Everyone should be part of this"
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>>23533658
Obnoxious 'nyaaaing'

More catgirls.
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>>23533679

I am 80 kinds of behind this plan
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>>23533658
Sluttiness, obedience, a desire to serve and please, subservience, more sluttiness, a love of cock and pussy, and mild to extreme euphoria when getting spanked, whipped, or tied up.
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>>23533658
Nya! Miau! Nya! Miau! Nya! Miau! Nya! Miau!
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>>23533532
Grab foci and give it one more shot. Cheap book or a research paper, a photograph (preferably one you have copies of at home) to represent memory, a magnifying glass, whatever other posters come up with...
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>>23533639
>poster safe word

Snuggle-upagus
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>>23533609
I mean No, using breakfast as a foci, as it would turn her into a pile of ash
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>>23533639
Why not use glorious inter-scene traffic light system?
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>>23533658

also if she wasn't Japaneses I would suggest that we mold her into a puppy girl but we need on slave going Nyan so that she and Breakfast can Nyan and Miau at each other it will be adoriblewd.

Also she needs to be submissive and like being owned. We may even make her a masochist out of spite but that might be to far unless she is one naturally then win.
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>>23533679
This is a Lamia.
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>>23533652
I like this as well, but nobody else will probably go for it.
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Rolled 85

>>23533652
You got my vote.
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>>23533738
No one suggested that.
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>>23533757

going with Japan's sexier version on this one, mate
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>>23533462
Can we please use Lunch's glasses and bandana (torn to change a symbol of concealment to one of revealation, which we can use for this)? It just seems appropriate to me.
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>>23533757
That is a hermaphroditic Lamia.
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>>23533757

Ah. Well then. Perhaps graft her some tentacles for that crowd, since we won't be getting it from a dryad?
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so the plan is Breakfast rest up and go at it after Liz and Lin are ready. Right?
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>>23533788
That's a naga.
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>>23533806

Perhaps we should shoot her with her own dartgun
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>>23533658
Catgirl again. She must be the nyaa to Breakfasts miau.
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>>23533721
I laughed. Even after reading Snapple's obnoxious nyaaing comment. Do it.
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>>23533738
You're retarded. No one said that.
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>>23533816

Definitely Naga then. But we're nowhere near Catpunch levels yet, so that's not something we have to worry about right now.
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>>23533802
>tentacles
Thats what Hera and her dryad is for.
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>>23533738
Thats not what he was saying.
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>>23533802
We're getting a little ahead of ourselves here. Getting her mindfucked first is the primary goal, then comes resetting her personality.

I vote stoic maid on the outside, complete slut on the inside.
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>>23533828
This assumes she's still packing sedatives, given that we escaped after taking that dart she might have loaded something more potent.
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>>23533830
>>23533834
I want utterly subservient slut maid who gets off of us whipping/spanking her and wears a fetishy maid outfit with a skirt too short to cover her pussy when she bends over and a top that leaves her tits exposed.
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>>23533791
i dont want to destroy any of her things unless we know it isn't a permanent focus but other than that we are good.

also we need to ask dad if those manacles are enchanted or if it is just the wards empowering any manacles we tie to the jail cell.
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>>23533447
>Conjuration can be used like enchantment against spirits

Can it?
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>>23533894
Plebe. ANYTHING is a better fetish than that.
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>>23533894
>I want utterly subservient slut maid who gets off of us whipping/spanking her and wears a fetishy maid outfit with a skirt too short to cover her pussy when she bends over and a top that leaves her tits exposed.

Just think of what selene would think before you jump ahead.

Need some more info first.
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>>23533925
yes it was mentioned yesterday and we are spirit enough to worry about that.
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>>23533894
>implying catgirls and slutmaids dont go together like nyaa and miau
Granted, I kind of want her to keep her hoodie and glasses for reasons equal parts erotic and making her into a living trophy of her own defeat, but I'm willing to maidify her.
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>>23533955
True, they can work together well.

And nothing but the hoodie and glasses. That has my boner/vote.
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>>23533894
Sounds more like a direction playtime with Liz might take eventually. The alternative is someone whose mind will have to be progressive rebuilt over months to fit that particular mold without seriously hurting herself...
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>>23533955
>>23533993
I, by which I mean my dick, second that.
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>>23533816
I propose Marilith.
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>>23533993
>And nothing but the hoodie and glasses.
Exactly.

Just imagine pic related with a hood and some bright yellow ballistic glasses. Unf.
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>>23533993
>nothing but the hoodie and glasses
Oh fuck yes. Also, they're ballistic glasses, not normal glasses.
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>>23534024
Make sure they aren't foci first.
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>>23534019
>Maybe TFed into lamia later
>>23534024
>>23533993
>>23533955
I concur whole heartedly with hoody plans.
Maid seems a bit droll, but little red riding hood has legs.
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>>23533880
>a cute little asian maid that tries not to show any emotion while we fuck, but fails
Please?
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>>23534022

Now we know who the intended audience of The World Ends With You is!
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>>23534104
But shes playing NSMB.
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>>23534112

She already beat TWEWY and needed something else to play.
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"I'm going to go get some Breakfast. You guys go grab some foci," you say, climbing up the ladder. You left Breakfast with Selene in the workout room, to make sure Selene would be away from the action whatever happened. You find them playing happily, with Breakfast snuggling with Selene and seeming to take equal pleasure in playing with her toys. "Bend over," you say as you walk in. Breakfast immediately, ecstatically complies. You start fucking her immediately, wanting a quick drain. Selene clicks like crazy and gives you a confused look.

"Bekfist'n mama?" she asks.

"It's okay, sweetie," you tell her. "We're just playing a grownup game." You make a point to direct whatever energy you get towards mitigating your Enchantment strain first and foremost.

Roll Soul to drain Breakfast. I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

What foci does everyone else collect?
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Rolled 91

>>23534143
Get ready for asshurt, Fem.
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Rolled 30

>>23534143
Selene is going to grow up very strange.

Mirror/glass, a lens, bowl of water, a collar, a few links of chain, some of our blood, we can shoot some of our load into a cup and bring that with, a condom maybe.
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>>23533993
Hmm, as long as they aren't her original hoodie and glasses since those might trigger memory relapses...
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Rolled 23

>>23534143
Sock puppet
Crummy paper doll
A key

>other
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>>23534143

Ooooooooooofuck. Are we cool with having Breakfast in front of Selene?
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>>23534143
>Doing it right in front of Selene
Welp, whatever
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Rolled 81

>>23534143
A spare dildo if we have one. You know, for probing.
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Rolled 87

>>23534143
Let's collect things that penetrate - needles, knives, dildos.
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Why can't we do both? We never did decide whar clothes to give breakfast after all.
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Rolled 100

>>23534143

sudoku puzzle, incubus essense
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>>23534024
I would be okay with this, so long as we don't make her obnoxious.
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Rolled 26

>>23534143
.
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Rolled 15

>>23534181
A bit late for that now. Regardless, I'm pretty sure everyone has agreed that she's going to find out about the rampant borderline orgy levels of fucking that goes on here. It's not that big of a deal.
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>>23534193
Actually, every time I've brought it up the majority voted no clothes for Breakfast...good luck anon...
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>>23534182
I read that as we took Selene away from Breakfast, which is what made her confused. Maybe thats just my denial kicking in.
>>23534195
No more obnoxious than Breakfast is, obviously.
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Rolled 98

>>23534193
yes we did she is Naked
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>>23534194
Damn it.
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I propose that we give her a massive fetish for holding hands, and the missionary position with lights off
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>>23534181
>>23534182
It was going to happen sooner or later, even if it wasn't in front of her she'd hear/see it with her amazing hearing. She'll know, may as well start early so she thinks its normal.
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>>23534219
How did you read it like that?
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>>23534194
You WASTED IT! You fool!

>>23534238
Don't even get me started on you! Filthy!
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>>23534193
Yes we did. We decided not to give her clothes (which is pretty standard for the house)
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>>23534238
THAT'S CROSSING THE GODDAMN LINE!

I KNOW WE DO SOME SICK AND TWISTED SHIT IN THIS QUEST, BUT WHAT THE FUCK?!
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>>23534219
>I read that as we took Selene away from Breakfast, which is what made her confused. Maybe thats just my denial kicking in.
Nah, we're fucking right in front of her. No matter what, our primary babysitter/playmate for Selene has been Breakfast, and she's been naked the whole time. It's way, way too late to be bringing her up normally.
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>>23534238
Too much. I'm out.
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>>23534241
>>23534210

At the risk of reigniting flame wars, there's a difference between fucking in the same building and fucking within four feet of your dryadbaby. But FemCOCK posted it already, so there we go. I just hope nothing bad happens.
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>>23534219
I was thinking even less, but for some reason JAPANESE CATGIRL MAIDO just instantly screams irritating.
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>>23534238
>Breakfast and Lunch, holding hands and playing with Selene
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>>23534269
...we forgot to get Selene clothes didn't we?
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bestiality
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Rolled 10

If permanent foci Start charged we should make i permanent drain foci for foci making then use that to make a drain foci for mind probe so Liz can keep up with our mind probe longer. All foci making is alcamy drain right?
if the first question is a no we should just skip to the mind probe.
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>>23534274
We'll find out when we take Selene home for break
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>>23534289
Oh dear. I think you're right. I don't remember us ever dressing Selene.
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>>23534299
Thanks to Liz we have both sides of that one covered in quest and already crossed the line sort of
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Rolled 77

>>23534194

Why do I always roll well when it doesn't matter!
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Rolled 58

>>23534274
Thats how i feel to
>>23534289
I assumed Dad got her baby cloths.
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>>23534223
> not choosing a risque nun habit for her everyday wear.
Do you even irony?
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>>23534369
Maybe if she ever leaves the house
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>>23534348
That's what Breakfast and Lin are for. We haven't given Lin the dick on a while. DP with Gaviscon might be cool.
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>>23534143

Well now that we have hoodie bitch captured, I wanna know: how fucked would we have been if we had followed her into her sanctum?
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>>23534423
we do need to give Lin a good Dicking
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>>23534459
well that question will be answered by probing her mind.
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>>23534459
If I recall correctly, Femcock mentioned that would've been it for Max.
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>>23534494
He said we wouldn't be rescued, not that it was the end, hell she could have been some girl just trying to see why we were following her.
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We need to find out why she wanted us, and who her sniper friend was, and whether we are in danger from mindbreaking her. We don't want Sam and Hera pinned to a wall as a charred corpse because we fucked with the wrong peopel.
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>>23534274
>At the risk of reigniting flame wars, there's a difference between fucking in the same building and fucking within four feet of your dryadbaby. But FemCOCK posted it already, so there we go. I just hope nothing bad happens.

yeah its kinda shitty we didn't even get the OPTION
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>>23534171
>>23534188
You do a quick drain of Breakfast, not enough to maker a pass out, and then head downstairs again, letting Breakfast and Selene get back to playing. When you get down there, you find that they've collected a bit of mirror, a paper collar, some of your dad's semen, a condom, and another red-hoodied paper doll.

"Ready to go whenever you are, Max," your dad says. Liz and Lin still aren't recovered.

What do you do now?
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>>23534544
Time for fuckery.

Let dad take the lead, we'll assist.
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>>23534544
Mind rape 2, electric boogaloo
Also >>23534524
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>>23534544
>you find that they've collected some of your dad's semen
Damnit, we just missed out.

Let's try it again.
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>>23534544
Let's do it.
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>>23534544
Right, let's do this. Time for Mind investigation, taking any useful information on her, everything we need, and then the mindscrubbing.

Let's do this.
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>>23534544
Dive on in, find out why she attacked us and what society she was from, then find any resources that might be good for us.
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>>23534494
my recollection was that that was only a very very probable outcome
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>>23534544
Dig for info, we want to see what's left of her and maybe restrict her access to magic as a secondary objective.
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>>23534529
it is not a terrible thing.
grown up stuff, not horrifying secret we will ineffectually shield you from and create huge stigmas that manifest later in life.
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>>23534544

"Let's get what we need, first off. After that? I think we could use a maid."
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>>23534544
Can we remove memories from her mind and store them in a focus?
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>>23534544
Also we should have Dad walk us all through how he is doing this
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>>23534544
Jump on in, the cerebellum is warm~!
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>>23534544

"Dad, can you use sorcery to transfer some energy to liz and in? They should be here for this?"
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You decide to head on in.

Roll Enchantment to take a look around her mind. You get a +1 from your dad helping you and a +5 from your temporary foci. I'll consider the first nine linked 1d100 rolls.
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Rolled 35

>>23534708
I hope this is a 1
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Rolled 20

>>23534708
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Rolled 19

>>23534708
Let's do this.
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Rolled 74

>>23534708
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Rolled 12

>>23534708
blessed be the dice Gods, even captcha says so.
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Rolled 84

>>23534708
mind dive go lets see what she knew
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Rolled 99

>>23534708
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Rolled 95

>>23534708

Here comes dem /tg/ dice
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Rolled 75

>>23534708
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>>23534544
We want this done right, so Dimitri should take the lead. Look for anything regarding the sniper, her base of operations, or any allies/controllers, then replace her personality with a shy, somewhat stoic catgirl maid, who is loyal and subservient and also happens to be a massive slut for our cock.
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Rolled 23

>>23534742
>>23534739
>>23534736
>>23534733
>>23534731
5/9, not bad not bad.
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Rolled 22

>>23534708

Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight!
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>>23534731
>>23534733
>>23534736
>>23534739
>>23534742
Damn Max, you sure can mindrape like a pro.
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>>23534745
And with these rolls, any and all of that is now possible.
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Rolled 86

>>23534745
dont forget a mild masochist and a fetish for being mind controlled.
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>>23534739
>>23534742
>7, 8, 9
FUCK
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>>23534749
I worry about the dicelords' preferences...Oh well, rolling with it.
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>>23534783
dont worry we will still mind rape and break the shit out of her
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>>23534818
Oh shit. Somehow I read >>23534708 as "I'll consider the first 6 rolls.

Nevermind. We done good.
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>>23534783
>First 9 Linked rolls
What's the problem?
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>>23534731
>>23534733
>>23534736
>>23534739
>>23534742

I think the dice are telling us that they want more mindfuckery.
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>>23534731
>>23534733
>>23534736
>>23534739
>>23534742
You and your dad slip into her mind easily. There's damage - quite a lot of it, really - but even as broken as it is, it's still more intact than Breakfast's mind fully repaired. You wonder how your dad wrecked Breakfast so hard as to cause that. That can wait for another time.

Most of her mind seems dormant, rather than damage, stunned and inactive from the shock caused by the damage to the rest of the system. Her memories are damaged, some of her awareness and sense of self are damaged, but she otherwise seems relatively intact.

"Where do you want to start?" you feel your father think at you.

What now?
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What time is it now Fem?
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Oh wow. That poor girl is about to watch everything she ever was be stripped away like layers of an onion, and then turned into a well-behaved maidservant.
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>>23534958
Let's look through her remaining memories, and see what damaged them if not us.
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>>23534958

Find her motivations for attacking us, then her minion. After that, a breakdown of her sanctuary, permanent foci, and then anything else that she has that could be useful for us.
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>>23534958
look for info on the location we followed her to then info on the sniper then any other bolt holes then any magic items she has.
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>>23534958
Minions, bases, allies and goals (short term over long) would be good
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Rolled 50

>>23534958
see if any society secrets are there to plunder, and implant the obedience
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>>23534958
Find out why she wanted to capture us, what she intended to do, what society she was in, any allies/minions, and what kind of resources she's set up.
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>>23535030
this to
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>>23534958
First, let's go comb through her memories.

Learn as much pertinent information about her as possible, what Society she belongs to, her name, her allies if any, her safehouses and all relevant details, if anything else damaged her mind, any loot she has or resources we can appropriate. What her plans were, what her goals were, why she went after us. Everything.

We'll break her later, first we find everything we can.
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>>23534996
This about covers it.
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>>23534958
Any personal info she has on us and whether her society stands a chance of identifying us as her kidnapper should be near the top of our priorities.
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>>23534958
Try to find out if she was working with anyone.
If the sniper was a human, bound spirit, construct, or something else.
What society she joined and anything they taught her.
Search her sanctum for traps. Find out if she had any recharging foci.
Find out what she had planned for Max.
See if she knew any cool things or came up with any spells of her own.


>afterwards

Cut out everything that makes her her.

Anything that could be perceived as rebellious and all memories of anything outside this tower are gone. Also most of her language skills.

Instill some cat things like with Breakfast. Make her know her new name, forget her old one, and recognize the people in the tower as her masters.
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I'd like to request links to the fanfic that's been given to FemCOCK so far, if it's not too much trouble.
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>>23534958
Get the memories, burn them out as we go.
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>>23535030
>see if any society secrets are there to plunder, and implant the obedience

This. Browse. Plant the obedience. Then REPAIR. Fix. Mold her into a perfect shell. Ours.

Our secret sleeper agent in disguise - especially if she's in nemesis or dextra domini. Despite what everyone says, finding out their secrets next year is better than making lunch.
Maybe. If the opportunity presents itself.

But yeah. Make her ours then fix her up.
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>>23534958
1 the people she took and how she did it location of them now how to free them,

2 security on her sanctuary, and valuables with in

3 her society and anything about their methods exct
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>>23535062
>Learn as much pertinent information about her as possible, what Society she belongs to, her name, her allies if any, her safehouses and all relevant details, if anything else damaged her mind, any loot she has or resources we can appropriate. What her plans were, what her goals were, why she went after us. Everything.

This. Then this.

>>23535118
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>>23535131
I approve of everything included in this post.
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>>23535118
>>23535131
Bad idea. If we release her and she goes back to her society the archmage running it will take one look at her and know exactly what's up.
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Rolled 88

Do not fucking repair yet, we don't want her with any memories of her past if we do a Lunch, wait until we destroy everything first.
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>>23535118
At our level building a sleeper agent isn't the best idea because her society's grandmaster would be able to detect oit mind fuckery and it's their job to route out sleeper agents and punish those responsible.
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>>23535118
I vote against this with every single iota of my body.

We're good, but we're nowhere near that good, if we try that shit someone will notice what's up, find what happened, investigate, and fuck us up. This girl is not leaving this tower, we are not going to try some stupid fucking double agent bullshit.
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>>23535118
this is to dangerous and maybe to evil
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>>23535118
There's way too much risk. Even if they don't fix her mind she'll then know enough about OUR operation that somebody else could get us.
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Rolled 91

>>23535118
>Our secret sleeper agent in disguise - especially if she's in nemesis or dextra domini. Despite what everyone says, finding out their secrets next year is better than making lunch.
>Maybe. If the opportunity presents itself.
that's just asking for an archmagi to come down on us like a ton of rectangular building things
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>>23535118
>Potentially identify ourselves to a hostile society that can enslave our soul by sending the enemy we just eliminated to their front door.
Let's not take any suicidal risks after yesterday.
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>>23534958

Read her memories, we're basically going off of nothing but conjecture at the moment.
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>>23535239
Not too evil, but certainly too dangerous
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>>23535256
This. I'm surprised ANYONE would think that letting someone go once they've seen the inside of our safehouse is a good idea.
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Plus aside from the risk of a double agent we still have a small problem of 2 soon to be 3 part succubi in the house.
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If this were any setting but scholomance, I'd endorse the idea of a sleeper agent.

But this is paranoia hogwarts the game. Fucking no.
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>>23535225
>At our level building a sleeper agent isn't the best idea because her society's grandmaster would be able to detect oit mind fuckery and it's their job to route out sleeper agents and punish those responsible.

Not necessarily.

The means to do so is within our grasp.

Archmagi can't comprehend The Word.

We enchant her to be Ours with that, and she can't be detected.
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We still have about a year before we have to worry about that, but I still fully agree with this post.
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>>23535305
>3 part succubi in the house
incubi, this is a major difference
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>>23535305
>of 2 soon to be 3 part succubi in the house.
Wait, what?
There's one Incubus, one Half Incubus, and one Incubus-flavored Dryad.

Where are you getting that from?
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>>23535331
It doesn't matter how powerful they are. It doesn't matter how skilled at enchantment they are. They just can't comprehend what we've done at a fundamental level.

It matters only if they belong to a society that may have demonblooded in it.

Keep the options open. See what she remembers first.
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>>23535331
Neither could she possibly understand orders in the word, not to mention we don't any more than a four year old vocab in the word, so cannot do that.
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>>23535331
We can't enchant with the word, though, I don't think it works that way.
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>>23535331
That isn't how the word works.
Regardless of how we do it, they will be able to tell that her head has been fucked with.
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>>23535342
you are right i derped when i should have herped.
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>>23535331
Her mind is broken to be unable to comprehend to word, so option 1, we fail to bind her or option 2, she goes batshit crazy...
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>>23535331
>Archmagi can't comprehend The Word.
only the human ones can't. the Grandmaster Dreamweaver could and we don't know who else will
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>>23535373
Good lord what is with my keyboard.
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>>23535331
Won't work. Assuming this is Nemesis, these are the guys who bind demons as a casual afternoon exercise. They won't have anyone who has someone who can understand the Word.

We also don't understand the Word that well yet, I don't think it can be used like that.

What the fuck are you even thinking?
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>>23535331
Neither can she. We'd be speaking commands into her head that her mind and soul are CURSED to not understand.
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>>23535331
Still, that's one more target out there to be mind-controlled, turned against us, or pumped for information.

Decent thought, but still not a good plan.
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>>23535331
but then our slave wont know what her own commands are i doubt it will work plus some of the archmage probably know the word and if she is Nemisis they have slaves who can learn it and probably slaves that do know it.
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Let's attempt planting sleeper agent in a rival society whose vocations include protecting their secrets from penetration by Archmagi on a routine basis. We're a 1st year student, what could go wrong?

Really folks? Subtle brain hacks might work, but full on sock puppeting her is bad mojo.
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>>23535331

And all it would take would be to slip a little idea into her dreaming mind, a backdoor we can use to visit later.

Our dad knows the dreamweb and the word, so one we get some conjuration down so too will we.

The best part is, nobody EXPECTS manipulation at this level from a FIRST YEAR. The societies have NO idea a fourth year skill level may be involved. If anything she's MORE likely to slip under her societies radar because of it.

And all we would need is a tiny little hole we can slip into while she's unaware and sing the word until she's full of love and obedience for mistress
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>>23535375
>>23535378

False. We're already enchanting with the word on our own body.
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You start with simple information. Her motivation for attacking you, her sanctum's defenses, her minions, and her society. The information you find is scattered and, in some cases, vague, but it's largely intact.

She was following you because her scry-wards detected a foreign spirit immediately outside of her sanctum. She wanted to capture you, interrogate you, and then eliminate you as a thread - one way or another.

The sanctum has scry-wards, simple wards against Enchantment and Conjuration, and a trap at the entrance. The trap seals anyone not imprinted with her very specific mental shackling - or her - in a kinetic bubble, then bombards them with weak but non-stop mental attacks until they get worn down. She abandoned her base after you supposedly found it for fear of getting ganked the next time she left it.

The base itself is powered by a battery of simple spirits - dozens of them in one room. Her minions are, similarly, bound spirits. The one sniping you was her strongest and most loyal spirit, a tengu that her grandfather helped her bind before she left home. Her other spirits are largely inconsequential servants, though she has a few guardian spirits around her base. She had been working on acquiring a fu dog before you ran in to her.

You find nothing on her society. It looks almost like an implanted mind virus erased 100% of the memories pertaining to them as soon as you successfully entered her mind.

What now?
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Rolled 97

>>23535463
no, we using the Word as a focus for Alchemy
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>>23535453
No, no, no, no!

For fuck's sake, do not try to pull that shit. There is WAY too much that can go wrong.
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>>23535463
No, we're using the designs that non-Host beings interpret the Word as being as foci.
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>>23535463
no we are writing the word on our body and enchanting each letter of the writing.
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>>23535453
She cannot comprehend the Word
>>23535463
We did that so that noone would be able to identify our tats immediately, it could have been a dick for all it mattered.
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>>23535389
>We also don't understand the Word that well yet, I don't think it can be used like that.
>What the fuck are you even thinking?

You don't know if it can be used like that either. Stop assuming, and lets ask our dad first.
BUT THINK ABOUT THIS: We're making a foci out of The Word ALREADY. Its the language of magic. Our dad is enchanting our basement expansion with it.
It CLEARLY can be used to enchant things, and there's not a lot of difference between a thing and a mind.

Odds are good we(and I mean, our dad) can use it to do this.

As long as its not Nemesis.
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>>23535481

Besides the spirits, is there much to be obtained from her sanctum? Tomes, Foci, things of that nature.
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>>23535481
She's already half-gone. Let's finish the job, and create Lunch.
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Rolled 25

>>23535524
>Its the language of magic.
technically it's only the Christian language of magic.
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>>23535481
Find out if she has any recharging foci stashed anywhere for us to loot.

Where was she when we nabbed her.

And lastly Lunchify her.

And to everyone saying to sleeper agent her:
>You find nothing on her society. It looks almost like an implanted mind virus erased 100% of the memories pertaining to them as soon as you successfully entered her mind.

Oh look at how badly that would have gone.
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>>23535481
See if she left any standing orders for her Spirits, if we're breaking her we might get some free spirits out of this.

Is there anything of value in her Sanctum?

Confer with Dad, ask how much intelligence and magic we could keep in her while maintaining perfect and utter loyalty, obedience, love for us, and cocksluttitude.
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>>23535481
what is a tengu exactly and dose she have any magic items of value?
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>>23535511
>She cannot comprehend the Word

The point isn't that SHE comprehends it. She doesn't need to for it to have an effect.
And that nobody without divine heritage can see that its there.

>>23535481
Ask dad for clarifications on the SLeeper Agent arguement feasability ASAP.
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>>23535524
Our dad specifically told us that it cannot be used for magic anymore. He isn't enchanting with it, he's just goddamn singing while he works.
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>>23535481

I want more info on that Tengu spirit. If it's strong, smart enough to snipe, and loyal, it probably isn't going to let this go.
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>>23535524
We made foci out of tattoos, the word is so folks don't get any of the symbolism in it, The Word is no longer magical, it doesn't work.
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>>23535481
Well, it seems someone did a thorough job.

Would it be possible to take specific memories and overwrite specific personality traits? If so, how specific could we get?
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>>23535481
>a tengu that her grandfather helped her bind before she left home
God damn it, why do you have to remind us that these are real people with friends and family that will miss them? I wonder how Breakfast's family is coping with her disappearance... I wonder how our mom would...
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Rolled 58

>>23535564
>tengu
japanese crow spirit, they are like trickster wizard monks
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>>23535463
We're using the tattoos as permanent foci - the meaning of the Word in them is just so our tattoos don't say things like the equivalent of "Kung Pow Chicken" in a chinese character tat.
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>>23535481
I want to use a tengu lets get her to get us that

also implant loyalty to us hard like stop beating hard

also look for contingents on what she and her captured things would do if she was captured

also take the info on her base defense I like it
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>>23535487
How? By erasing a given word of the Word from reality? Asking because I have no idea how you use intangible objects as foci other than writing/drawing them on paper and using that as a standard temp focus. If I'm missing something here please let me know.
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>>23535589
Exactly. We're worried about ruining our mom's life, so we're staying alive. If her grandfather was powerful enough to enchant a Tengu for her, then he knows what she got herself into. Fuck it, tough shit.
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>>23535589
Well, once we get done with scholomance we just mindwipe them, create a new personality and dump them back into society, they'll be fine.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengu
For those curious about what a Tengu is and why we should still be afraid.
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There was a mind-fuckery paranoia trap in her head already. Trying to make her a plant without anyone twigging to her mindwipe or triggered trap is futile.

She's got to be disappeared.
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>>23535564
Tengu are basically bird samurai.
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>>23535612
it's the tattoo that we're going to make into multiple permanent foci
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>>23535481
>You find nothing on her society. It looks almost like an implanted mind virus erased 100% of the memories pertaining to them as soon as you successfully entered her mind.

Gee, it's like somebody's done that before at this multi-millennium old magical institution for backstabbery and general fuckheadism.

Right, dig out her potential (figure out her sheet that is) and then fry the memory sectors. She's ours now.
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>>23535487
Alchemy, afaik, is purely physical, not sure what you're trying to do with this...
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>>23535568
Even if your whole idea wasn't retarded to start with, making her a sleeper agent is now infeasible. Neither us nor her even know what society she was in any more so how the fuck would we infiltrate it?
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>>23535576
>Our dad specifically told us that it cannot be used for magic anymore. He isn't enchanting with it, he's just goddamn singing while he works.

No, he said it was WEAKER, and that it could still be used for magic but you had to find source of it in people. Thats why he wants/needs breakfast - she's a source of his supermagic..
Also it pretty clearly had a supernatural effect on us, which is why we noticed it in the first place.
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>>23535481
Look more into the Tengu and the binding on it, we don't want it to come after us after this. Will the binding stay solid after she is Lunched? Will we be able to command the Tengu or tell her to tell it to obey us as it would her.
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>>23535612
we are turning the writing of our tats into permanent foci.
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>>23535481
We should check her most recent memories to see if anyone witnessed us taking her out.
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>>23535564
>>23535603
Tengu are also in myth who the ninja learned their skills from.

>sktsReq capture
Well said, captcha
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>>23535588
Alright, I'm going to go pick up a pizza, but I'd like to suggest we leave a little bit of her there. After all, she was only reacting to us the same way we would have reacted had SHE found our base of operations.

Wiping most of her memories (specifically any related to scholomance or magic) and making her servile towards us should be sufficient.
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>>23535568
We aren't doing the stupid fucking Sleeper Agent thing. It's a terrible idea on so many levels, and not even doable at this point.
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>>23535618if we can capture it we can learn sward man ship just like Musashi
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>>23535646
>No, he said it was WEAKER, and that it could still be used for magic but you had to find source of it in people.
No, he didn't.
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>>23535481
looking at the aftermath of the supposed mental bomb, is there anything we can learn about it's function, specifically vulnerabilities or even simply a certain signature flavor?

Next time we have to deal with a similar binder and want to slurp out more secrets maybe was have to get them drunk first, or more illicit substances, or prolonged sensory dep. to break the shell before we go in there. Anything.


And when we are done poking around..

does a snatch and grab teleport leave a trail? even if there is no way to enter directly it would be bad if there was a big glowing trail from her last location to here. Doublecheck that with dad, who has more experience, and take steps to diffuse that smoke.

>not going to toss my own fetishes into the ring when it comes to everyone's excitement over rebuilding.
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>>23535641
>Neither us nor her even know what society she was in any more so how the fuck would we infiltrate it?

>>23535568
>Ask dad for clarifications on the SLeeper Agent arguement feasability ASAP.
This is a good point. Do this. We need to know if its possible, because if it is, we can do things like crafting traps and wards that people can't percieve.
Just cause it wont work on HER doesn't mean it wont work on others. Knowing whether it is POSSIBLE or not is a trick worth having up our sleeve.

Stop saying its not possible when you don't know. Thread is full of people who half-remember shit from previous threads, wrongly.
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>>23535652
this is a good idea.
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>>23535646
Uh, no, he said the Word is broken as a magical device, and that everyone had to RELEARN magic, and use humans as surrogate middle-men for a power source.
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>>23535481
>You find nothing on her society. It looks almost like an implanted mind virus erased 100% of the memories pertaining to them as soon as you successfully entered her mind.
this image comes to mind
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>>23535481
Will the tegu have reported her disappearance to her family, or is it still here?
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Hey femcock, what's the IRC channel for this quest?
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>>23535729
#scholomance

It's on Rizon.
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>>23535729
I think there's #scholomance on Rizon.
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>>23535729
No clue.

Is the consensus now to instill overpowering obedience/loyalty in her?
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>>23535752
Nope, let dad do that, he knows what he's doing.
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>>23535729
come on in, the water's sticky.
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Rolled 92

>>23535729
#scholomance
fem doesn't visit
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>>23535752
If that means Lunchification, then yes.
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Rolled 79

>>23535759

we gotta learn sometime
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>>23535752
It's Lunch time.
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>>23535712
Of course it's possible. You programmed a Mexican girl to act like a cat. Or it would be possible if it hadn't been for the mind virus. As for whether or not it's a good idea, most people seem to think it wasn't. I won't weigh in on that.
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>>23535752
FIRST get details on the Tengu. We need to know if we're going to need her to make it go away or if we can use it for ourself.

Then consult our Dad, talk to him about how good/bad an idea it is to keep her with her magic and intelligence and if she'll be able to break our control if we don't break her utterly.

Then we can make our slutty maid with undying devotion and love for us and a masochistic streak a mile wide.
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Rolled 22

>>23535767
assisting/watching Dad is less likely to mess up
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>>23535767
Yeah generally from someone who knows how to do it, I would much rather take a mental wrecking ball to the rest of her mind before we lunchify her.
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>>23535646
They couldn't use the Word as magic anymore, and the energy of the world that they breathed was gone, but people still generated it and Succubi/Incubi could feed from them.

Which is why many of them started coming through magic schools - to learn how the humans did magic so they had power again.
>>23535481
Wipe and rebuild after seeing if we can unbind/banish her spirits and if she's got any decent permanent foci to swipe.
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>>23535568
Her society's counter measures to her getting mindraped have already been tripped, if they see her again it's even odds that they'll kill her on sight. The double agent plan isn't going to be a viable option for awhile sir-anon, it's time may come.
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>>23535761
You think that's water you're paddling in?
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>>23535696
>>No, he said it was WEAKER, and that it could still be used for magic but you had to find source of it in people.
>No, he didn't.

Yeah, he did http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23449450/

>"None taken. We got weaker as time went on - there was less energy, we started needing it from humans. Magic faded - it used to be as natural as breathing, something that touched every part of everyone's life. We used to be able to simply Speak things into existence, until dad broke the Word for mortals. Actually needing to know things in order to do magic was a new concept for us, and it's taken us a lot of time to relearn - something that some of us did by, say, attending a school for human mages."
>None taken. We got weaker as time went on - there was less energy, we started needing it from human
> needing it from human

BOOM
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>>23535759
>>23535782
Your dad is actually drained down to the same level as you at the moment because he helped collect foci instead of having some Breakfast.
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>>23535752

If there's nothing else we can get about her sanctum from her mind, then saa, lunchtimuda!
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>>23535712
the sleeper agent is a bad idea but you are right it wold be useful to be able to plant very difficult to decipher suggestions in peoples minds so we should look into it though i doubt they could understand it. Also next chance we get we should ask Carl if Lotus dose anything like that and the reasoning behind the decision.
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>>23535752
>Is the consensus now to instill overpowering obedience/loyalty in her?

The concensus is to ask dad whether its possible, so we can get an opinion, so people start arguing and being dumb.

More info, THEN You get your concensus.
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>>23535806
He needs to take energy from humans. The Word is magically-useless sentiment that humans can't even process as a symbolic architecture.
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>>23535752
I vote yes. Let's get our Lunchtime on.
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>>23535816

You are my favorite person right now.
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>>23535752

Get the Tengu info first.
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>>23535712
Actually I believe it's only one who is half-remembering anything, it doesn't matter weather it can't be read, wards and foci on someones body will leave a mark. The Word cannot be used as a focus by itself.
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>>23535776
>Of course it's possible.

I don't mean whether its possible. I mean whether its possible to use The Word while doing it to make it Very Subtle.
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>>23535851
The Word just can't be understood as language. It doesn't make anything subtle or invisible.
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>>23535790
>Her society's counter measures to her getting mindraped have already been tripped, if they see her again it's even odds that they'll kill her on sight. The double agent plan isn't going to be a viable option for awhile sir-anon, it's time may come.

See>>23535712
>This is a good point. Do this. We need to know if its possible, because if it is, we can do things like crafting traps and wards that people can't percieve.

I get that we don't want to do it now.
I want to know about Related Applications of the technique.
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Rolled 7

>>23535842
>Get the Tengu info first.
odds are that the tengu is still bound to lunch, so we go and get it after "fixing" her
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>>23535776
I don't see how you get from "you can program a mexican girl to act like a cat" to "you can program people with the Word and not even an archmage could tell you did anything". Please explain.
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>>23535812
The mind virus already burned itself out right? Once we noticed the first set of counter measures did we check for others?
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>>23535876
You can make a person a sleeper agent with Enchantment. The Word isn't any more or less magically useful than any other language, it just isn't perceived as language by humans. I'm not explaining this again.
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>>23535873
Odds are good that it'd be bound to her, but we have NO FUCKING CLUE if there are any contingencies to that. If I had a Tengu I'd set up a "if someone brainfucks me into their servant you are released from my service with the final task of killing me and them" clause.
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>>23535835

I didn't even realize all the wizard and magic puns when I made that reference.

>Max is Haruto
>Lin is Koyomi
>Liz is Rinko
>Dad is either Wajima or Kosuke
>Pierre is Phoenix
>Sam is Shunpei
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>>23535895
>>23535909
>Odds are good that it'd be bound to her, but we have NO FUCKING CLUE if there are any contingencies to that. If I had a Tengu I'd set up a "if someone brainfucks me into their servant you are released from my service with the final task of killing me and them" clause.

This is a fantasticly good point.
We NEED to know more about her family and her spirits before we risk pissing them off.
She's probably a ninja.
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All of this reading comprehension failure...
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>>23535752
I think so then more info on the tengu then the fun parts of her reprogramming then we ask dad what should get ripped out for our safety.
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>>23535909
if we keep most of her mind together we can use her to bruit force foci like the one to help make foci even if she fucks it up 1/2 the time doing it every day she will get us a nice pile of permanent foci
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did anything ever come from that /d/raw thread request?
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>>23535931

He shouldn't be typing in the word, most of us can't understand it.
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>>23535909
Well then why the shit aren't we searching her mind for what happens to her spirits in this situation?
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>>23535945
not yet
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>>23535954
I suggested that we search her mind for that information.

People have been far too fucking busy yammering about the Word and Double Agent idiocy to think about the actual concerns right now.
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>>23535978
Yes, really.
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>>23535776
>>23535832
>>23535865
>>23535895

Thanks for the clarifications!

I don't really mean to be a drag, but if you stepping in to clarify things earlier than later would be AMAZING.
It would also save MUCH shitposting and reach concensus significantly faster when we can make informed decisions.
You know, if you happen to be around at the right time instead of working or distracted.
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>>23535991
>I don't really mean to be a drag, but if you stepping in to clarify things earlier than later would be AMAZING.
>It would also save MUCH shitposting and reach concensus significantly faster when we can make informed decisions.
>You know, if you happen to be around at the right time instead of working or distracted.
he did in previous threads, hence the >I'm not explaining this again.
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>>23535978
>I suggested that we search her mind for that information.
>>23535954
>Well then why the shit aren't we searching her mind for what happens to her spirits in this situation?
>>23535936


I rest my case about Word related shit. MORE info and brainscanning for things that will come back to bite us
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>>23535991
I clarified them many threads ago. You had a reading comprehension failure. I'm not upset about that, but I'm bothered by you passive-aggressively suggesting that I'm to blame for not correcting you sooner when everyone in the thread was telling you that you were wrong.
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>>23535991
But everyone else understood that, you're the only person that didn't
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FemCOCK, is there an upper limit or rate of diminishing return as to how many foci can be used in a spell? Because if not, I'd imagine hoarders being the best wizards doe to the bulk of foci they have on hand. Attacking a wizard and then suddenly seeing ash cascade out of his pockets would be scary indeed.
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>>23535978
What if we ripped out Liz's heart with the Word so she wouldn't understand it had happened and wouldn't be affected by it, and then we enchanted it into the HEART OF POWER and stored it in a box so it would be like a phylactery and make her immortal, and then we scoop out her insides and replace them with exploding rodents and then made her infiltrate Dextra Domini and snap the archmage in charge's neck?
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>>23535816
I am never going to be able to even attempt to take this show seriously again now.

I should thank you, sir.
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>>23536047
you need sarcasm tags there or snapple might think that's a good idea
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>>23536063

You took it seriously?
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>>23536047
Why are you mocking snapple when he/she/it/whatever had nothing to do with this particular bout of frustrated screaming?
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>>23536047
No, no no NO! That's not how the Word works! It's a language that can only be COMPREHENDED by celestial or demonic beings from the abrahamic version of history! Normal people can PERCEIVE it just fin-

Oh shit.
10/10 sir.
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You scan her mind for the tengu's capabilities and orders. You find that, in the event that she's compromised somehow, the tengu's loyalties revert to her grandfather and it's under orders to recover her and bring her home by any means necessary. The tengu itself has been with their family for more than a dozen generations and taught them swordplay and certain applications of magic. It is to her, in many ways, exactly what your father is to you, insofar as its tactical role is concerned.

It will most likely try to kill or otherwise neutralize anyone in its way of saving her, attempt to infiltrate any prison holding her by any means necessary, and exfiltrate as quickly as possible back to Japan. It could hypothetically be stopped by rebinding it or banishing it, but the most guaranteed effective solution is killing it outright. Until then, it won't stop trying to save her.

Well, fuck.

While you're in here, at least, you decide it would probably be a good idea to try to instill some personality traits beneficial to you.

Roll Enchantment to alter her personality. You get a +1 from your father helping you, but also some strain, so I'll consider the first three linked 1d100 rolls.
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>>23536045
Any real professional wizards probably have loads of permanent foci instead of using temporary ones.
We simply haven't had time to build up a stockpile yet.
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>>23536094

Well fuck is right.
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Rolled 38

>>23536094
>
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Rolled 37

>>23536094

Rolling for submissive neko meido
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>>23536101
Yeah, but temporary ones don't need extra attention to craft into objects of power. They're just stuff, and therefore very useful for large bursts of power when you need it.
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>>23535991
So apparently people explaining to you why you're wrong is shitposting now?

Do us all a favor: leave.
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>>23536083
Something in me was still trying to. God only knows why.
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>>23536094
No pause to gather foci? Goddamnit max...
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>>23536094
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SNtUuu2AtQ
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>>23536021
Goddamn. You stand up and tell people when they need to be told, don't you? I mean, I'm not surprised; you did the same thing when people were saying things that you hadn't been saying. Still. Damn.

I can tell you're a dom, milady.
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>>23536112
>>23536116
>>23536117

I think the dice gods are smiting us for making fun of their favorite Rider.
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>>23536127

You have hope. That's why.
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Rolled 100

>>23536094
Well fucksticks. Fuckity, fuckity, fuck fuck fuck.

Okay, loyalty, giant massive buckets of loyalty, love, devotion, obedience, submission and so on for us and those we choose.

Some level of masochism so she likes us spanking her, whipping her, and tying her up. Eagerness to please, and so on.
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Rolled 48

>>23536094
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>>23536021
>everyone in the thread was telling you that you were wrong.

the thread has people like Snapple, though, who are a steady source of wrong ideas.

>>23535806
At least this guy actually bothered to look up stuff you had said, and I think it may have biased things, mostly due to a lack of context.

Also the sheer amount of content doesn't help. Keeping things straight over 50 threads isn't a sure thing on anyone's part, and due to the speed the thread moves it had taken a while for people to realize you had said something relevant.

There's more factors are work here than just one person being terrible, so try not to feel too bad about it.
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>>23536094
maybe we should just let her go after we remove any memory of our home/tower ?
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Rolled 19

>>23536133

The dice gods need better fucking taste
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Rolled 29

>>23536094

Do none of the foci help us in this?
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Rolled 37

>>23536094
Only 3? Fuck. No Foci? No carryover from getting 5/9 on taking a look in her mind?

Damn.
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>>23536143
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>>23536094
Well this is bad.

The tengu knows us. See if she knows anything about its weaknesses.


>>23536143
Dice....
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>>23536143
FUCKITY FUCK FUCK
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>>23536143
WHY!? WHY!? First roll after the limit is a fucking 100?!

Fuck us.
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>>23536168

I distinctly recall such helpful things as a paper collar
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>>23536143
What the actual fuck.
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>>23536094
I'll suggest it again, the BARE MINIMUM mindfucking is the best solution: compliance, subservience, remove her memories of magic, the last year, and anything related to scholomance.

Because if it comes right down to it and we CAN'T manage to kill the tengu, we can at least release her as close to unharmed as reasonably possible.

Besides, it's not like she did anything we wouldn't have done to her if the situation were reversed.
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>>23536159

Well, it is the most /tg/-related series.
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>>23536116
>>23536117
You accrue still more strain and don't make any meaningful impact. You could give it another try before you're tapped out. At any rate, you remain in her mind and can continue to peruse it if you so choose.

What do you do now?

And no, the foci were for entering her mind. To get more foci as a bonus, you would have to disconnect and go grab some more. Temporary are good for one roll only, ever, period.
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>>23536094

OK, is there any way we can trick the tengu into thinking "she's not compromised"? How smart is this thing?
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Rolled 90

>>23536157
that is one option but if we take to long she may just come back to school pissed at us.
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>>23536143
SONOVABITCH
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>>23536195
What's Dad's enchantment strain right now?
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>>23536094
You're really rushing this. You gave us new information without an opportunity to change our plan or even prepare.
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>>23536094
>It will most likely try to kill or otherwise neutralize anyone in its way of saving her, attempt to infiltrate any prison holding her by any means necessary, and exfiltrate as quickly as possible back to Japan. It could hypothetically be stopped by rebinding it or banishing it, but the most guaranteed effective solution is killing it outright. Until then, it won't stop trying to save her.
>Well, fuck.

We should not fuck this chick. The dice are sending us a clear message: Don't mess with her.

We should just give her to the tengu, and be like "she tried to kill us, we're sorry"
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>>23536195
Search for tengu weaknesses. Where this thing might be now. What it's armed with.

Hand off the controls to dad after this
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>>23536195
Get out, talk to Dad about the tengu, see what his opinion on what we should do is.
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Rolled 22

>>23536195
Give it one more shot, to give the personality traits >>23536143

And then if that doesn't work Drain her with Dad and give it another go with Foci.
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Rolled 24

>>23536190

You...have a point there. Damn it.

Viva la Beast!
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>>23536218
He's down to the same level as you.
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Rolled 13

>>23536228
Search for tracking spells
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>>23536219
>You're really rushing this. You gave us new information without an opportunity to change our plan or even prepare.

Agreement.
In character, we pause and take a step back and stop rushing ahead so much.
Ask out allies for advice.

Think at our dad "Is a tengu worth dealing with? Do we really want the ire of a family of wizards that can bind them?"
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Rolled 67

dose the Tengu have any weaknesses we can exploit other then that i cant think of anything I want to try without getting more foci Also we didn't get a bonus for being in her Mind?
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>>23536143
>>23536234

Voting No to adjustment.

This is not the time to be messing with that shit.
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>>23536248
Look, we can't let her go. If we do we will have their ire. They won't forget this if they EVER find out about it, and if they find out about it we will be hunted down for vengeance. The only way to keep us safe from her family is to keep her here, mindbreak her, never let her out, and somehow deal with the Tengu.
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>>23536195
>>23536240
Try one more time to reset her, then pull out and start planning to deal with the Tengu.
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>>23536195
We can't use foci on our person already to help we a mental attack? Because I assume we have at minimum clothes and condoms on us right now (dad at least habitually wears pants), and there are other things in reach of the room (like one of the cell bars). I'm asking because if we can't get to five die at least I don't feel like it's worth rolling again, that we should just move on to game planning surviving the tengu...
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>>23536259
this guy has a point the only thing i would change is to remove her memories of us then consider our options.
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>>23536267

Screw this. We need help.
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>>23536195
Perusal is fine for now, and after we figure out what sort of a threat the tengu constitutes I still say we should just hit key magic-related memories and instill a sense of loyalty and possibly a desire to repent for trying to harm us. No more than that.

If Dimitir can help us accomplish that without totally scrambling her, that would be great.
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She's lost a good chunk of her memory right? See if we can get her to call the thing off. If she lost EVERYTHING pertaining to her previous organization, we could just selectively inform her what happened.
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>>23536285
You have nothing on you that would work as a focus here.
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>>23536285
>we make a mental attack
Should be "with a mentall attack"
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>>23536278
>Look, we can't let her go. If we do we will have their ire. They won't forget this if they EVER find out about it, and if they find out about it we will be hunted down for vengeance. The only way to keep us safe from her family is to keep her here, mindbreak her, never let her out, and somehow deal with the Tengu.

Sure we can. Erase her memory of us.
Use the outgoing portal to return her to japan. We can drop her on their doorstep if we really want.
Print a letter that says "Dear sir, your granddaughter tried to kill us. We didn't think it was right to take her from this world today, please forgive us."
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>>23536300
she has to many intact and mostly intact memories for that to work without ruining her more which we have yet to decide on as our coarse of action. Good idea just impracticable.
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You look through her memory, looking for any particular weakness of the tengu. You find nothing. Or, rather, you find no exceptional weakness. It can be killed, it can be banished, and it can be bound. It has amazing skills in stealth, swordsmanship, impersonation, and various expressions of magic, especially Enchantment relating to illusion. It has also, in the past few decades, begun to expand its Tengu-Sumo arts with the addition of modern military special forces techniques, such as the implementation of sniping and controlled demolition.

It's dangerous and highly skilled, but still ultimately fallible - in many ways, again, like your father.

What do you do now?
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>>23536318
That seems risky as hell. I'd really really rather not risk insulting this family and giving them any leads as to what happened.

Because I sincerely doubt it will be taken well by her family and that there won't be major consequences coming in if we do that.

If we keep her in the Tower she'll have just popped off the radar, disappearance, normal day at Scholomance. Nothing new.

The Tengu doesn't know where she is, let's keep it that way and not leave bread crumbs for it or her family to follow.
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>>23536094
>The tengu itself has been with their family for more than a dozen generations and taught them swordplay and certain applications of magic. It is to her, in many ways, exactly what your father is to you, insofar as its tactical role is concerned.

Dude. This thing is centuries old. Its a match for our dad, and hasn't been stuck in a prison for 15 years, and presumably has Badass Wizard Family to back it up.

We do NOT want this guy as our nemesis, and we will as long as we have Karou.

Our biggest problem is that IT knows us.

So clearly, we approach it an offer it a deal: We will just give karou back, in exchange for its memories of us.
Problem solved.
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>>23536372
It specializes in enchantment. I wouldn't be surprised if it backed up its memory of us before accepting the deal.
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>>23536318
that or killing the Tengu are our best options so far they still might want revenge though they are an old magical Japaneses family they probably have a pretty crazy idea of honor and may not accept our apology. plus I'm not sure that wold get her drooped from schoolamance.
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Rolled 87

>>23536372
>implying it wouldn't just kill us
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>>23536361

First thing: NO ONE LEAVES THE SANCTUM. PERIOD. If this thing is a stealthy, impersonating, magical ninja bastard, we're not letting him slip in disguised as one of us.

Use what little time we have to prepare for incoming tengu rape train. Maybe not Lunchtiming Kaoru and going with >>23536372 's plan is the safest way to go.
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>>23536372
Femcock's posts:
>It's killable
>It's fallible
>It can be banished
>It can be bound

Your post:
>SHIT GUYS WE'RE IN OVER OUR HEADS HERE LET'S ROLL OVER AND SUBMIT, MAYBE IF WE BEG HARD ENOUGH WE GET TO LIVE
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>>23536372
It would kill us on the spot. I say we completely decimate Karou's mind and use her as bait. We can either plop her in a binding circle and shoot the shit out of the tengu when it gets trapped or load her up with a bunch of explosives.
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>>23536372
Remember, she made the first act of aggression. They arent gonna back down now.
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unless there is a tracking spell on Karou, the tengu doesn't know about the tower.
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>>23536362
The tengu knows who we are though, so we'd be even less safe than usual outside of our sanctum.
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>>23536361
Back out, refocus, go for her magic-related memories, then her general memories of the last year. Last, leave a compulsion to be subservient to and ultimately reliant on Max, Lin, and Liz on the way out.
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>>23536362
>The Tengu doesn't know where she is, let's keep it that way and not leave bread crumbs for it or her family to follow.

Hey. It shot at us. It had our face in its scope. It knows who we are. We are the last one seen its charge. It knows our route to school and the lotus sanctum.

This tengu is an unsleeping samurai terminator wizard. Its going to come for us and interrogate us first thing.

Best thing we can do is offer diplomacy. The japanese are pretty reasonable.
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>>23536361
Selective heart teleportation after rest, recovery and foci gathering. Run the plan and the problem by dad and the Ls now, we need counsel.
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That is too much of a potential asset to ignore. Is it possible for her to successfully gain control of it once more even after we've subverted her?

If not, then we need to make an illusion that looks like us, but is in fact a manequinne covered in claymor mines....
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>>23536394
this is likely what will happen and how do we even begin to negotiate with it in anything resembling safety?
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>>23536411
fem is known for trying to lure us into traps, trust nothing they say
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>>23536361
that makes me want it even more

how about we bind it?

use a alchemy dummy of Lunch to lure it in then trap in and bind it?

come on guys we can do this
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>>23536372
I really, really, don't think it'll take that deal in good faith.

We have a Sanctum it doesn't know about, resources it doesn't know about, the element of surprise, numbers, and our Dad.

>>23536425
It knows who we are, not where we are or anything like that.

>>23536428
Stop blowing it out of proportion, and the Japanese are not reasonable. Diplomacy is a TERRIBLE idea.
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>>23536361
Back out, tell dad, mind wipe the shit out of her and leave her outside.
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>>23536429
This actually isn't a bad idea. If the Tengu is bound to her we could probably use a lock of her hair or something to trace it.
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>>23536420
>Remember, she made the first act of aggression. They arent gonna back down now.

Sure they are. Its no longer under orders to shoot us. Its main concern is to recover karou - and it can do that however it likes.

We just need to give it the path of least resistance to achieve its goal.
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>>23536434
>using illusions against a master of illusions
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>>23536457
FUCK NO. For the love of fuck, no. We do not leave bread crumbs for the Tengu and her family to lead back to us. Dear god no, she is not leaving the Tower.
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>>23536361

>all this pussying out because it sounds strong

Fuck that, we should bind it. It's skill set sounds invaluable, and this way it can still serve Kaoru in a bittersweet way serving us after we break her into Lunch.
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>>23536434
Or we could just strap a c4 vest to Karou.

We aren't giving her back either way. The Tengu is going to die, the only question is how.
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>>23536434
it is unlikely that she will be useful as anything but bait i think we should skip straight to killing the thing.
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>>23536476
Yes lets steal a valued spirit from a wizard family, sounds great.
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Can we set a dead man switch on her mind? If it's bound to protect her, it can't harm us while that's in place. See if we can bind the thing to us in the meantime.
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We just have to kill the damn Tengu, dad alone should be enough for the task, but with all four of us (possibly including gaviscon, also) it shouldn't be too difficult.
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>>23536454
>I really, really, don't think it'll take that deal in good faith.
>>23536440
>this is likely what will happen and how do we even begin to negotiate with it in anything resembling safety?

this thing is centuries old and really damn wise. We dont lose anything by talking to it.

>>23536460
>This actually isn't a bad idea. If the Tengu is bound to her we could probably use a lock of her hair or something to trace it.
This is a good idea. Find out where it is, and if we can open a line of communication to it.

Hell. Browse her memories and find her cell phone #. Just CALL her grand dad and/or her own phone and hope the tengu picks up
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>>23536457
If it can penetrate our wards, we're screwed because it ain't the most dangerous thing out there, by a long shot. It probably thinks its us and will pursue us anyway after we he turn her because it will be honor bound to regain face.
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>>23536488

I'm sure the bound Tengu would give us any heads up on how to/if we have to deal with the family.

They're going to be pissed however we do this.
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>>23536496
Keep in mind that the tengu has been practicing the current system of magic much longer than Dad has.

He used to be powerful.
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>>23536464
And when Karou gets back home to Japan and they fix her up, who are they gonna blame her dropping out of school on? When has Japan ever backed down from a perceived slight without the use of fucking nukes?
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everybody stop panicking, the tengu only knows what we look like from a distance and doesn't know were our tower is.
shave head + different cloths and port to classes
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>>23536493
That sounds like an okay plan, in addition to limiting the mindfucking.
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>>23536501
>open line of communication
Which it then can use to get into our mind.
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Guys, we CAN take town the Tengu. We just have to be cautious, plan like a motherfucker, and use lots and lots and lots of focii.
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>>23536488
well we also are stealing the girl too so who gives a fuck

we can have it all
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>>23536551
This.
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>>23536501
What? We lose an awful lot by talking to it. By talking to it we're exposing ourself, it means revealing information, it means letting it know more about us and that we have her instead of it not knowing where the fuck she is, that means it can and possibly will kill us to get Kaoru back.

DO NOT DO THIS.
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>>23536506
and if they are so what, we hold their relative hostage and have their Tengu to use against them

Getting Lunch to rebinding the Tengu to her or us would give us a huge bonus in the form of a very powerful ally
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>>23536525
Much more than what we had when we sniped his master.
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Whatever we do, back out and get Dads opinion on what we should do.
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>>23536563

...I agree, I'm arguing for binding the Tengu.
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>>23536559
Seriously. Don't talk to the thing. We have until the next morning before classes start. We need to kill it fast.

Let Dad use Karou to recharge. Max gets Breakfast. Gather foci and take it down.
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>>23536553
>mindbroken catgirls, demons, reincarnating immortals and samurai bird snipers
Selene is gonna have the best extended family, I tell ya hwat
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>>23536579

Seconding this motion. And again, NO ONE LEAVES THE SANCTUM. It's not getting in disguised as fucking anyone. Unless we set up some sort of password system or something
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>>23536454
>Stop blowing it out of proportion,
>>23536361
>controlled demolition
>modern military special forces
>stealth
>impersonation
>illusions

We're a 15 year old first year vs a special forces terrorist shapeshifter ninja with a sole objective to recover a hostage.

Antagonizing it sounds like a fantastic way to get max killed and the clocktower blown up. Every day we go to class.
Every day we to go the lotus sanctum
Every day we are out and about
Every day it has all day to stalk us and find out info about us.

I would not bet on max in this engagement.
But you know what else I wouldn't bet against?
The TG dice. How lucky do you feel?

Its SOLE goal is recovering karou, so let's make it easy.
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Guys, calm down. Don't be brash, and don't post suggestions without thinking things through.

Just because a situation goes tits-up does NOT mean it's a good idea to freak out. Deep breaths everyone, and think your posts through. Act like tacticians here, not headless chickens.

We all want Max to get through this intact and happy. And we will.
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>>23536543
Or we just recover strain, trace it down, and teleport its heart into the tower. Collectively we have 9 blocks of conjuration we can use to end this after a rest and a good meal.
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>>23536563
For the LAST FUCKING TIME, the first step here has to be NOT mindfucking her into Lunch. If we leave something of Kaoru in there, it leaves us something to work with.
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>>23536564
so we gotta git him quick

also we cant just giver her back with out doing something t the Tengu it knows our face even if we remove her memories it will tell her who her last target was then she will just come after us again we take the Tengu. for our selves its the only way
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>>23536597
>Seconding this motion. And again, NO ONE LEAVES THE SANCTUM. It's not getting in disguised as fucking anyone. Unless we set up some sort of password system or something

Say, did we ever finish wards in the basement?
Do we still have a gaping hole in our defenses? If so, we have a serious problem.
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HEY FUCKHEADS, CALM DOWN.

The tengu is a master sniper, it seems, so we simply need to calm the fuck down and find info on counter-battery-ing snipers, and get ourselves a proper rifle for doing so, either in .50 or 20mm, or 14.5 if we're feeling slav. We'll need enchanted rounds.

For a longer term or more effective solution, we can magic up a railgun, firing for now ferrous rounds, and then eventually iron jacketed uranium sabots.


(I suggest personally finding the Tengu's hide, and finding a way to drop the equivalent of a M777 battery MRSI salvo on it)
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>>23536615
so we make her unswervingly loyal to us but still Kaoru
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>>23536361
Why don't we wait till she wakes up and talk to her that way we are at full magic she is in the shackles we lose nothing.

Someone followed he home and she freaked and tried to take care of them just like we would have

Try to remember this is a person.

We are acting like psychopaths with alarming frequency and I don't think that should be who max is
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People, calm your fucking tits. Stop panicking and running around like headless chickens.

The Tengu is tough, but with prep work we can kill it and/or bind it to our service.

We are not giving Kaoru back to her family, we are not talking to the Tengu, we are not giving it information on us.

It doesn't know where she is, it might suspect that we're involved but it doesn't know anything about us other that it seeing us once through a scope.

We have wards, it's looking around so it doesn't, we have the advantage. Plan on how to win, not how to best surrender.
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>>23536601

Do you SERIOUSLY think this whole thing will just nicely end with giving him back Kaoru? Kaoru may already have irreversible damage (which equals revenge from him), and if she doesn't, there's no way she'll let this fly (again, revenge).

We can't run away from this encounter, it's stupid to try.
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>>23536617
It's only goal is to get her back, thats fucking it, I'm sure that the family will just be happy with their daughter no being dead.
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whatever happens Kaoru is not leaving this tower
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>>23536579
He's in there with you.
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>>23536646
Hahahaha. Are you sane? Do you really think that they'll say "You fucked our daughter's mind and she'll never be the same or succeed at Scholomance. But we won't do anything about that or seek revenge as the Japanese often do."
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we need to probe her mind and find out how her family will react to us returning her with only her memories of us removed and an apology letter.
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>>23536646
yea no, its not that retarded and any suggestion to give Kaoru to it is equally retarded
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>>23536643
>Do you SERIOUSLY think this whole thing will just nicely end with giving him back Kaoru? Kaoru may already have irreversible damage (which equals revenge from him), and if she doesn't, there's no way she'll let this fly (again, revenge).
>We can't run away from this encounter, it's stupid to try.

You don't know unless we try.

Fem said most of her memories were dormant, not damaged, and this thing specializes in enchantment, which can be used to fix her.
If they put a mind virus in her, i'm guessing they also have a mind backup.

Anyway.
We also need to consider the possibility that the tengu has a Bond of Blood or other insurmountable binding that we can't override.

its been in the service of -one- family for -12- generations. Either it likes being there, or its compelled to.
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>>23536655

femcock, out of curiosity, are railguns feasible with magic, or is this one of those dumb plans that won't work?
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>>23536636
Since we've seen it through rummaging around in Karou's memories we can have Max and Dad fill up on Breakfast + Lunch, then gather foci, and do the tengu like we did her.

We'll need much more foci, but we can do it. Spend the next 10 or so hours prepping and we can end this thing tonight.

I want this tengu dead.
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>>23536656
>You fucked our daughter's mind and she'll never be the same or succeed at Scholomance

We haven't fucked her mind yet, tho. We rolled too poorly to do anything.

AND WERE NOT GOING TO.


>>23536655
>He's in there with you.
>>23536579
>Whatever we do, back out and get Dads opinion on what we should do.

Seconded! Do this before ANYTHING else.
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>>23536646
yea cause If I got all my memories of my secret society and who knows what else I wouldn't want pay back

it wants her but she and her family will wan't our blood its us or her and I say its going to be her now we just gotta decide do we try to get the tengu for our selves or just kill it

>>23536635
>>23536646
>>23536678
thats the dumbest most dangerous idea out side of Wenidego fucking I have seen

>>23536636
good points
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>>23536690
Sure it's possible.

For comparison, there are rumors of students using tiny bits of the sun teleported into someone as a magical weapon. A rail gun is hardly an issue by comparison.
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>>23536361
Talk to Dad. See what he knows about the binding of spirits and killing them. A estimation of how much damage it can take, whether porting its heart out is a feasible solution.

>>23536664
BADLY. IT WILL GO BADLY. It is not going to happen.

>>23536678
So you want us to try giving Kaoru back and just hope for the best that no vengeance falls on us? Are you stupid or just fucking with us.

>>23536701
She's lost memories and we did a rather strong mind bullet on her. And if we do let her go, which is a TERRIBLE idea in every sense, we will have to remove a lot to make it even remotely close to safe.

We aren't letting her go, we aren't giving her back, we aren't keeping her as she is as she is currently a potential threat.
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>>23536655
we should do this >>23536664
and if we dont need to break the spell to talk to dad we should ask his opinion.
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>>23536697
Or just as easily we can do him like we did the Vampire Lord. If he has high enchantment he may be resistant to those assaults.

Anybody who thinks an old, noble Japanese family, especially magi, will forget this kind of insult and not plan reprisal is deluded. Better that she and her guardian disappear without a trace.
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>>23536635
>Why don't we wait till she wakes up and talk to her that way we are at full magic she is in the shackles we lose nothing.
>Someone followed he home and she freaked and tried to take care of them just like we would have
>Try to remember this is a person.
>We are acting like psychopaths with alarming frequency and I don't think that should be who max is

This is reasonable, actually. Recharge, wake her up.
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>>23536631
Basically, yes. The least amount of harm we can do the better, for a variety of reasons. If we make her loyal to us as a condition for leaving the rest of her intact, she could even continue going to classes after a while (depending on her position in the class, of course). Otherwise, we could go for some selected memories.

Basically all it would be doing is making sure she can't stab us in the back.
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>>23536701
We already did when we disabled her. We shredded her mind massively. We haven't outright mindwiped her, but we turned it from Provolone to Swiss Cheese with a psychic tommygun.
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>>23536361

Really, I think the best option is to keep her incapacitated for now, and start to plan for that Tengu.

Don't let her wake up, we don't know what she's capable of, and she can easily surprise us.
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>>23536719

And question 2, do we have any subjective ideas, or OOC, any idea on exactly how much force we can cause with a uranium slug traveling between mach 20 and 30 to someone like say, Pavana?
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>>23536714
I want to kill it.

The issue becomes do we want to use Karou as bait and blow the tengu up as it grabs her or do we want to go for a remote mental attack + snatch and grab.

>>23536730
I'd love to just port his heart out but I don't know if we need blood for that or not.

>>23536749
The shackles stop her from using magic.
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>>23536749
And strip search so she isn't hiding any foci on her in case she does become coherent enough for magic.
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>>23536742
>We already did when we disabled her.

>>Most of her mind seems dormant, rather than damage, stunned and inactive from the shock caused by the damage to the rest of the system. Her memories are damaged, some of her awareness and sense of self are damaged, but she otherwise seems relatively intact.

I dunno.

I think the best thing we can do for now is TALK TO DAD, and then talk to her WITHOUT lunchifying her.
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>>23536753
>I'd love to just port his heart out but I don't know if we need blood for that or not.
I did say earlier we should be able to use something from her to trace him.
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consult dad
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>>23536721
yes dad is in her mind with us we should ask him what he thinks of all this then we should probe her mind to find out how her family is likely to react to our returning her it is the closest thing to doing it that isn't potently retarded we have and can give us a good idea of what to do on that front.
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>>23536730
Agreed. Teleport kill the guardian, it makes it look like a walker attack. We even ran from the first fight by teleporting, so that helps sell it. Plus we'll have bits of tengu to use in summoning and binding one of our own (I'm not really interested in this particular path to power, but it might be worth exploring down the road).
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>>23536753
>The shackles stop her from using magic.
We didn't use the shackles, we use some shackles, we don't even know if the shackles dad wore still work.
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>>23536777

What do you think Tengu bits'd do if used as fertilizer for a Dryad seed?
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>>23536731
that will get us DEAD or worse
>>23536740
no if she leaves the tower her tengu/society takes her and fucks us she is now lunch

we now plan to kill or bind the tengu there are no other options

>>23536730
this
we should see if any of her guards have orders to report to her family

>>23536749
yes
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>>23536740
Are you fucking retarded? She does not reappear, she disappears now and never comes back up on the radar. We kill the Tengu and it's just a disappearance in Scholomance, no leads, no clues, nothing and we leave it at that. We don't do something fucktarded like let her walk around outside the tower.

>>23536731
We should alter her to make her loyal to us, we don't need to rip her intelligence and magic apart, but we don't want her in our dungeon if she can't be trusted, she might not be able to use magic, but she certainly can't be trusted in any way.

>>23536775
IT WILL NOT BE GOOD. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, horrific, idea to give anyone any bread crumbs as to who did this. We do not return her, she disappears for fuck's sake.
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Damn it's late.

Good night /tg/, please don't do something stupid.
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>>23536731
the reason we dont want to wait is the Tengiu we can read her mind and get the info on her and her family reaction that way.
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>>23536787
I suggested that back before Fem shut down the argument, no one listened
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>>23536796
You have too much hope anon.
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This thread has become a interesting look into dehumanization. When she was just a girl in a red hood who attacked us, /tg/ literally couldn't wait to make her into lunch. The moment she had a name, atleast half of the people changed their minds.

Also is she even hot? I mean that will likely change some minds if she isn't.
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>>23536791
>we don't need to rip her intelligence and magic apart
I think we need to rip her magic apart.

I don't want there to even be the possibility of her doing any fucking magic in our tower.
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>>23536775
we are never returning her
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>>23536788
>that will get us DEAD or worse

How? Shes trapped in magic inhibiting manacles.

Also.

All this talk of REVENGE FROM JAPAN is pretty damn ignorant that their ENTIRE #1 GOAL is the safe recovery of karou.

Revenge vs gratitude is a very delicate balancing act.

I also think we need Lin's input on this.
She's lived forever, and.... might actually be familiar with the deamon/family we are dealing with.

Talk to Dad AND Lin.
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>>23536812

It wasn't when we found out she had a name, it was when we found out that there was an impending rape train with cut brakes heading our way.
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>>23536812
It wasn't the name, it was the beatstick and a family of wizards backing her up.
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>>23536791
For the same reason we allow Lin and Liz to leave the tower. Because by one reason or another, their loyalty to us is assured.

This is, of course, assuming she's somewhere in the top ten or so. Judging based on the elaborate nature of the wards she placed on her safehouse, she may well be an asset to us as a more or less intact person.
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>>23536826

I sincerely doubt that train will survive a piece of iron flying at hypersonic speeds entering it's brainpan.

ALCHEMY UP A RAILGUN, THE MATH IS THERE!
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>>23536750
Nope. But if you have something travelling at mach 20-30 within an atmosphere, you definitely have a lot to worry about when it comes to collateral damage when the pressure front of its sonic boom impacts its surroundings.
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>>23536815
Uuuuh no?
She's a skilled conjurer, and she can be broken. This is useful.
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>>23536812
>When she was just a girl in a red hood who attacked us, /tg/ literally couldn't wait to make her into lunch. The moment she had a name, atleast half of the people changed their minds.
>Also is she even hot? I mean that will likely change some minds if she isn't.

>>23536635
>We are acting like psychopaths with alarming frequency and I don't think that should be who max is

Ditto to all of this.

Some of us just need to drown out the FETISHWANK voices with Being Reasonable
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She is not in magic manacles you fucks.
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Let's just ask Dad for his opinion on taking on the Tengu already. And also what a dryad fertilized with a tengu is like.
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>>23536195
Did we look to see why she followed us the first time? Let's just mind wipe anything about us and send her home, why bother incurring more risk to us by have a demon samurai after us?
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>>23536848
DEAR FUCKING GOD NO! STOP BEING A DUMBFUCK!
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>>23536815
If we make her loyal to us, then what's the problem? It's one more person who can lend a hand, and one more person who isn't a complete liability.
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>>23536848
we are keeping her
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Are there people seriously trying to negotiate with a supernatural being trained in spec-ops combat tactics with an undying, borderline maniacal need to protect its appointed master? A Tengu that is, as we've found, trained in SNIPING and CONTROLLED DEMOLITION? It's tactics most applicable to its situation are two different methodologies that are based on not even opening the chance for cooperation with the targets. Sniping and controlled demolition are made to put down enemies before one has to confront them. He's going to kill us when we walk out of the tower, permitting that he finds us, without speaking a word to us. He's old, powerful, and smart. He knows (or at least believes he can) handle this the quick and dirty way, because his target is an overzealous teenager and her friends. He has absolutely no reason to try and do anything peaceful to reacquire Kaoru.

Stop being fucking retarded. Have you seen what snipers do every single time there's a hostage situation? They shoot to kill, and they do it BEFORE negotiations finish, and sometimes before they even begin. You've made a dire enemy of a supernatural being, now fucking deal with it instead of shitting your pants and trying to apologize.
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>>23536855
That plans no more dangerous than keeping her.
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>>23536839

It's Scholomance. Besides, we aren't thinking about doing to her anything she wasn't trying to do to us.
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>>23536839
Get Lin and dad's opinions on what reasonable is in this case. We honestly don't know if we can safely return her, many of us think we can't...
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>>23536848
She didn't follow us, we followed her. And then she tried to capture us to figure out what we knew, then take care of us.

Please, DO try to keep up.
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>>23536812
This is actually the first time I have posted in these threads I decided to try to sway people from being unnecessarily cruel once I found out why she attacked us
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This is why we should've went out monster hunting more. We get one little honorable murderbird on our trail and everyone shits their pants.

We aren't going to last at the Scholomance if we run around scared of everything that comes our way.
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Get the opinions of our fellow tower peps, whatever we do we have also included them into a potential dangerous situation.
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>>23536870
Exactly, we can teleport her the fuck out of here, with no memories of us, leave her with the instinct to leave us alone if you want to be safe, and minimize the risk to us, calm down people.
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>>23536836
and the fact that with dense elements moving at those speeds your igniting the fucking atmosphere around it and turning the surrounding air into plasma which keeps burning the rest of the air around it.

sonic boom is the least of your worries
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>>23536753
if returning her will still piss of her family the only viable option is to telikill it

we should probe her mind to find out how her family will react to us just returning her.
If they will let us be we return her problem solved.
If they will want vengeance, as is likely, we telikill the bird. End of threat.
this plan is the best one i can think of. Or have yet heard.

we have more than one set of shackls
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>>23536848

NO that gets us killed/hunted she is lunch now

>>23536876
on how to deal with the tengu not about lunch
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>>23536870
>ancient Japanese secret societies and clans.
>Forgiveness.

Not thinkin' that's too likely.
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>>23536870
no it's way more dangerous than keeping her.
first the illusionist sniper doesn't know about the tower
second negotiating with a illusionist sniper
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>>23536876
We should also try to talk to her in a controlled setting.
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>>23536836


>collateral damage

My original plan was to drop the equivalent of 20-40 155m HE or DPICM rounds on the bastard at once from cover.

What makes you think I care about collateral damage?
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Rolled 32

>>23536883
Before that, she was following us, we lost her and followed her home, remember that??
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>>23536839
The number one, no fucking bullshit priority is the safety of the people in the Tower. We are not taking chances on this.

We got targeted first and won, and our choice with her is Lunch or Death. Giving her back is suicidal. At least as Lunch she'll have a new life she'll enjoy as a new person.

You aren't being reasonable. You are being craven.
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>>23536848
We tripped her wards when we stalked her home. She went paranoid hide/stalk/kill on us. We just retaliated both for revenge and to remove a proven threat. Now we are dealing with the fallout.
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>>23536897
I never said negotiate, I said mindwipe and ditch her out in scholomance somewhere where the tengu will eventually find her and skip off to Japan. You know using the exact same methods of remaining undetected as the people who want to keep her.
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>>23536902
or you could conjure up a really dense element into their brain then heavily increase local gravity around them and watch as the tiny element bisects them vertically
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>>23536870
... you're serious aren't you? If we send her home there will be a trail of some kind that narrows down on us, we will have INSULTED an OLD JAPANESE FAMILY. That means they will kill us. Giving her back is a terrible idea, attempting negotiation is a terrible idea. We do not let her go, we keep her behind wards, we kill the Tengu, and we go on our merry way.
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>>23536903
SHE WASN'T FOLLOWING US YOU RETARD, WE NOTICED HER ON THE WAY BACK FROM THE LOTUS AND TAILED HER.
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>>23536903
She was never following us, we saw her in the distance and decided to follow her.
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>>23536915
Right and what happens after that? Did you care to think that out?

No way in hell her family just lets this go.
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>>23536922
Yes. This. They're not just going to let us get away with this.
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>>23536929
Oh ok, I must have remembered that wrong, this is totally on us then, all our fault. Why some people get so upset I got that wrong is beyond me.
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>>23536887

Thanks for jumping in!

>>23536864
THANK YOU! This is the point I was trying to get across earlier.

Keeping the tengu as our enemy is going to get us killed. Its going to get worse the longer we keep karou, and its probably going to cross the line into revenge if we do anything more to her.

About the only peaceful way out of this is to wake karou up and get it to back down. SO MANY problems can be solved with phone calls.
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>>23536888
How high does dear old dad rank on the monster scale?
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>>23536930
And they're going to let it go if we turn her into our personal slut?

Both plans rely on remaining anonymous, only one gets a fucking freight train of our ass.
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>>23536930
>Think

Ha, this guy and all others saying we should hand Kaoru over are catastrophically mentally challenged
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>>23536887
>>23536893
the tengu still knows what we look like and will tell her then she hunts us again this is a BAD idea

>>23536895
turn her to lunch she never leave bind the tengu we gain food and a useful minion
>>23536915
the she orders the tengu to kill us she can't leave
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we can't and shouldn't release her
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>>23536903
Yes, but we abandoned anything to do with her at that point. She set up ambush, and if it weren't for getting summoned back to the tower we'd be in her place now, with a Tengu assaulting the tower with one of the keys in its pocket.
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>>23536917

Won't work if that tengu is warded against teleportation.

I would assume it is, hence, massive, overwhelming force, the proper counter when you encounter a sniper. Drop arty on the bastard and hope he dies screaming as the shells fall.
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>>23536893
>Exactly, we can teleport her the fuck out of here, with no memories of us, leave her with the instinct to leave us alone if you want to be safe, and minimize the risk to us, calm down people.

The problem with this, is while i was pushing for it earlier, the tengu still knows who we are and will come for us for answers as soon as it's back in japan.

The only way we get clear of THAT is to come to an Understanding.
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>>23536893
I think we should keep her and kill the tengu, but you've convinced me teleporting her into the sun is a decent viable option.
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>>23536956
or we need to conjure up our own sniper, name his Vasili and set him up in scholomances equivalent of Stalingrad
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>>23536938
I'd rather just drop her back near her sanctum with his knowledge of magic erased
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>>23536944
If we Lunch Karou we kill the tengu. Which means there is nothing to link us to it.

If we hand her over the tengu knows us.

We have to deal with them either way. If we kill the tengu it's alone, but it's now. If we hand her over we have to fight the tengu + whatever backup they send later.
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>>23536944
we aren't Anonymous if the tengu lives we are the most likely suspect we take care of it or get hunted no other options you same fag
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>>23536938
If we give her back it and her family are still probably going to want revenge on us. A phone call gives the Tengu information on who has it, information it can use to target us.

>>23536944
Yes. The one that gets a freight train on our ass is the one where we let her go and leave any sort of trail, if she just disappears and never shows up again and then we kill the Tengu we'll be FUCKING FINE!
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>>23536962
after all the effort we've gone to? fuck that, she is our now and has been since we decided to fuck her shit up
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>>23536948
How will she order it to kill us if she doesn't remember us exactly?
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>>23536959

But what happens when we don't come to an understanding and lose the small prep advantage we have over the Tengu? We have to strike first.
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>>23536959
Or, you know, to kill/bind the Tengu.

And that particular option leaves no traces as to who did the act in the first place.
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>>23536938
We crossed the revenge line when we shredded her mind.
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Okay, so here's my plan. Get the various opinions from Lin, Liz, and Dimitri, then address what's left of Kaoru. Explain to her that even though she made the first attack, we would not be averse to helping her recover under two conditions: first, that she allows us to make her completely loyal to us, and second, that she helps us take care of the Tengu one way or the other.

We get a potential extra set of hands, she gets strength in numbers and safety from us. If she turns us down, killing her seems the only option: if she's dead, the Tengu can't return her to her family and this that condition is removed from the equation.
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It looks like the closest thing to consensus is asking your dad for his opinion. Is that accurate?
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>>23536922
I agree that that is what is likely to happen if we check her mind we can be certain then in the unlikely event they wont want revenge we send her back.
otherwise we telikill the bird and end this so wee need to check her brain for her families and her reaction.
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>>23536985
exactly, we need to carefully plan and prepare with lots of foci, draw it out and into a trap on our terms and bind it to us or our new lunch
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>>23536997
Yes, although we should kill the fucking tengu.
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we can't hand her over because then she's evidence that can get us dealt with
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>>23536904
>We got targeted first and won, and our choice with her is Lunch or Death

The only reason you're being so obstinant is you want to wank over lunch.
That's gonna get your dickgirl wankbait killed.
We can't hole up in the tower forever. At the very least, we'll fail out.

>INSULTED an OLD JAPANESE FAMILY. That means they will kill us.
You don't know that. Stop assuming things. Its pretty goddamn 100% clear they want her back alive. The ninja above all else are bout secrecy and survival. Failure is a shame you can live with, but death is unforgivable.
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>>23536997
Yes.
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>>23536997
YES!!!
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>>23536997
Let's just do that
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>>23536997
Telekill the tengu like we did the vampire lord. If that doesn't work remote mental attack with tons and tons of foci.
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>>23536944
There is no anonymous without adead. tengu you dipshit
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>>23536973
Solution
Kill tengu
Erase memory of us
Teleport to japan
No trail
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Hey guys, while we're in her mind, let's see if she knows the true name of the Tengu, that should be plenty advantage for taking it out/binding it.
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>>23536997

Yes, but ask Liz about any cutting edge weapons that can cause massive kinetic damage and aren't physically impossible (assuming it's past 2010 ingame she should stumble on to the railgun program)
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>>23536997

Might as well or we'll never agree.
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>>23536985
>But what happens when we don't come to an understanding and lose the small prep advantage we have over the Tengu? We have to strike first.

Any techniques we can use to Locate, trace, and kill the tengu can also be used to open lines of communication with it.

Thats a start.

>>23536993
>We crossed the revenge line when we shredded her mind.
Its not shredded beyond repair. KEY DISTINCTION between that and Lunch.
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>>23537019

Oooooh I like this. Get more information on their specific bond while we're at it.
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>>23537019
Well, someone who has managed to get his neurons to rub together a little bit.
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>>23536997
>It looks like the closest thing to consensus is asking your dad for his opinion. Is that accurate?

YES.
DAD AND LIN.
DONT FORGET THE IMMORTAL ASIAN GIRLS OPINION ON ANCIENT ASIAN SHIT
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There are some sad fuckers in here that clearly only ever play LG paladins. Jesus Christ almighty, there are people really thinking that, in Scholomance of all places, goodwill is going to be answered with kindness. It won't. She aggressed first, and we answered in kind. She played her hand against someone who had more things hidden close to their chest, and she lost. She didn't have to try to enslave/capture us, and she certainly doesn't deserve our kindness for it.

Oh, and even though her mind was wiped of society affiliation, she's Nemesis for a fact. Here's the clues:

>Her closest familiar is a Tengu, a demon spirit.
>She has dozens and dozens of other familiars that she uses as power sources and slaves, as a FIRST-CIRCLE MAGUS.
>Her FAMILY was the one that gave her the Tengu as a familiar before she even came here.
>Evidence suggests her family is a long lineage of demon binders, as the Tengu has been under their control for over a dozen generations
For fuck's sake, she's Nemesis, and you're feeling BAD FOR HER, and on TOP OF THAT, you want to SEND HER BACK TO HER NEMESIS FAMILY WITH A METAPHORICAL PAPERTRAIL.

You're all fucking retarded. Every last one of you that wants to let her go. You're asking for Scholomance to get raided by a cell of Nemesis graduates with our head as their target. You're going to get us, our dad, Lin, and Liz killed or enslaved.

Kill the Tengu, erase her existence, cut off the trail, and never worry about retribution ever again.
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>>23536997
yes.
and we can check how her family will react from her mind?
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>>23536994
Or you know, we just mindfuck her into loyalty, kill the Tengu, and live happily ever after.

>>23536997
Yes, get his opinion and see how feasible it would be for us to kill the Tengu with Conjuration, possibly following a mental attack.

>>23537018
Still more of a trail than keeping her would make. She's never seeing her family again, the old Kaoru is dead long live Lunch/Hirume.

>>23537019
Good thing to learn.

>>23537035
Opening lines of communication gives it information that it can use against us. We do not communicate, we kill it quickly and move on with our life.
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>>23536997
Good first step. Delay the discussion between intransigent extremes.
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>>23536993
You're a bleeding heart pansy, you know that?
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>>23536993
Stop whining, we are perfectly within our rights to kill her and spread her entrails over the entirely of Scholomance.
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>>23537035
I'm sure it will make them much happier when they find that we only made her mildly retarded, instead of reducing her vocabulary to "COCK!"

Seeing a problem here? You should be.
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>>23536984


Lunch: hey bird what happened I cant remember shit for the last few hours ?

tengu: you got brained fucked and teleported away then back boss probable that girl we wear hunting the other day the one you trnaked and tried to mind fuck you

Lunch : o lets kill her


>>23536987
yes best idea

>>23536997
yes then break lunch and bind the tengu

>>23537018
but we gain nothing

>>23537047
we could also bind it

>>23537052
yes agree +++
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>>23537047
>Kill the Tengu, erase her existence, cut off the trail, and never worry about retribution ever again.

I brought it up before - we need to assume that we can't outbind the tengu. If our dad can't be bound against us due to Bonds of Blood, its reasonable to assume a nemesis tengu has similiar safeguards in place.
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>>23537047
Thank you
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>>23537010
Enough with the cowardice!

If she disappears without a trace and her Tengu is dead, IT'S OVER. We don't know the response of trying to give her back, but she took a huge risk trying to take a student so far above her in class that she knew was close with two others very high up, and she lost. We can win this, stop pretending your craven noblebright bullshit works here.
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>>23537064
>Stop whining, we are perfectly within our rights to kill her and spread her entrails over the entirely of Scholomance.

But we're the one who started the aggression by tracking down her sanctum.
She reacted rather reasonably to someone she was sure was gonna stalk and kill her.
In fact, she acted JUST LIKE US.
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>>23536997
That we should do.
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>>23537084
Stop YOUR sociopathic grimderp bullshit.
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>>23537052
Why are you so pathologically opposed to reasonable plans? If we get her to submit to certain control measures willingly, it's the best possible solution for us, for the other inhabitants of the tower, and for Kaoru herself.
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>>23537067
>Seeing a problem here? You should be.

I see it.

The lunchwank crowd yamming for their latest cockslave doesn't, tho.
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>>23537084
People like you are why Max has been slowly descending into unlikeable dickery, sir.
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>>23537099
Still all the reason to kill her, and I'm the one who just wanted to ditch her without her memories.
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>>23537099
>>23537105
>>23537084
Remember when Max was the one who saw the brutality of Scholomance and wanted to start a different, better one?
She can't do that if she accepts the Scholomance way of life.
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>>23537114
the bast option for Kaoru now is lunch, because otherwise we need to kill her
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>>23537136
true
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>>23537136
Agreed.
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Railgun/Artillery guy here, I also have a plan if we use a conventional rifle.

We enchant the rounds so that, after firing, upon impact, they generate equivalent gravity to that of a neutron star in a 1-6 inch radius, for at least a few milliseconds.

Thoughts?
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"What do you think we should do about this?" you think at your dad.

"Well, we need to get the tengu to stop coming after us, one way or the other. We can either do that the thorough way or the hopeful way."

"And those ways are?"

"The hopeful way is to negotiate her return to her family and hope that they hold up their end of the bargain and call off the tengu and whatever other attack spirits they could hypothetically muster. It's hopeful because there's no guarantee that they would hold up their end of the bargain, and might even use information gained in the negotiation to send more spirits after us. It's also hopeful because, if they do hold up their end, we won't have to hold up our end anymore, and that's that."

"And what's the thorough way?"

"Kill the tengu using overwhelming force, then never let the girl leave the wards unless we tattoo an anti-scrying ward onto her and bind a spirit to keep it permanently powered so that her family can never find her. It's not nice or gentle, but it's thorough and effective. We would also need to add certain loyalty protocols to her mind, maybe erase some memory groups - we could likely keep her a lot more intact than Breakfast, even if she'll be somewhat altered. I would personally pick this one, but the hopeful method has its merits, obviously."

How do you respond?
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>>23537135
She's not going to get that far if we do things your way, either.

Holy shit, looks like Snapple passed his "Stupid ideas to repeat ad nauseum" crown on to a new tripfag.
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>>23537152
Thats kinda like the whole, turn ourselves into wolverine thing, thats too much power for us to realistically be able to do.
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>>23537114
Which reasonable plan? The letting her go one, which is not reasonable in any way. Or the giving her a choice way, which honestly provides no benefit over just making her loyal.
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>>23537135
I do, but the slavering mealwankers don't. >>23537160
You mean you're going to start tripping?
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>>23537154
the thorough way
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>>23537084
>If she disappears without a trace and her Tengu is dead,

Man.
We are not going to kill that tengu.

Its just not gonna happen. There's absolutely nothing we can do to stop it from picking up a phone and calling its allies and telling them what just happened.

Unless we give it a reason to stop and talk.


>>23537114
>Why are you so pathologically opposed to reasonable plans? If we get her to submit to certain control measures willingly, it's the best possible solution for us, for the other inhabitants of the tower, and for Kaoru herself.
+>>23536994
>Okay, so here's my plan. Get the various opinions from Lin, Liz, and Dimitri, then address what's left of Kaoru. Explain to her that even though she made the first attack, we would not be averse to helping her recover under two conditions: first, that she allows us to make her completely loyal to us, and second, that she helps us take care of the Tengu one way or the other.
>We get a potential extra set of hands, she gets strength in numbers and safety from us. If she turns us down, killing her seems the only option: if she's dead, the Tengu can't return her to her family and this that condition is removed from the equation.

Those are the two most reasonable plans presented so far, and those two hinge on two things:

No Lunch
and Talking To Allies first.

Vote for that, and we can progress.
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>>23537135
Damn seems so long ago now
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>>23537099
Tracking != agression, she acted on a paranoid impulse and tried to get rid of a problem that didn't exist yet. She could have just moved her sanctum. Her mistake was unwittingly attacking someone with out knowledge of their allies
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>>23537154

Massive overwhelming force, eh?

While I know we were jocks, did we ever play any games or watch any movies that might spur us into thinking of a railgun or the neutron star plan?
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Rolled 72

>>23537136
>Make her lunch, demon samurai attacks us
>Make her dead, demon samurai attacks us
>Wipe her or make a deal (including magical bond(we make the agreement that she calls him off))demon might not attack us.
Remind me why lunch is the best option for anyone
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>>23537154

Ask him about binding the Tengu for our own purposes.

Otherwise I'm supporting the 2nd option.
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>>23537154
Kill the tengu. I don't trust her family at all.

Ask him if blood is required to do it like the vampire lord.

If we can't then as a last resort rig Karou with explosives after obliterating her mind and blow them both up.
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>>23537154
can we look in her mind and find out how likely her family is to keep there end if we go Hopefull?
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>>23537185
>>Wipe her or make a deal (including magical bond(we make the agreement that she calls him off))demon might not attack us.
still probably will
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>>23537185
Because their boners demand it. Also, because sociopathy.
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>>23537154
"The thorough way, it's the safest one, and I'd rather not have to rely on her family not feeling vengeful for our continued survival. They started it, we finish it quickly and she becomes just another disappeared student."
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>>23537136
Except we don't need to kill her yet? If she refuses to play ball we can lunchify her or shoot her in the head, but we should at least give her the OPTION of compliance.
>>23537142
You know that you're worse than Snapple ever was, right?
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>>23537099
And she LOST. Holy shit, do you hold a funeral for every person you kill in a game of counter-strike? If someone shoots at you with a pistol, is it somehow wrong to reply with a sniper rifle? Regardless of circumstances beforehand, she aggressed first, and she lost because of it. She could have simply left her hideout and made another in a completely different area. She could have outright killed us with an actual gun. She didn't, because she got greedy and thought she could enslave us, because she's our mortal enemy from Nemesis, and it bit her in the ass really, really hard. Tough shit, she joined a society that relies on aggressing a specific group of people, is heavily unliked, and apparently taught her to be a power-hoarding maniac rather than a caution, logical human being. Suck it up and face the fact that giving back Kaoru is only going to get us killed or minddbroken.
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>>23537154
Well this is exactly what I expected. Talk to the Ls, make your opinion that we can't take any chances known, but feel them out before deciding anything. Assuming they're both sane and go for the sure path start prepping for the assault.
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>>23537154
Thorough way.
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>>23537154
The thorough way.
>>23537175
>We are not going to kill that tengu.
And here's why I call you craven. We're a very potent collective ourselves, and turning our full force on him makes us just as scary.
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Rolled 38

>>23537154
Let's explain the situation and ask Liz and Lin too, could easily see either being pissed they got no say.
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>>23537185
Those first two are irrelevant as far as choosing something now. Both consolidate into "don't give her over"
>Keep her, we have to kill the tengu
>Make a deal, we might not fight the tengu, but we might also face a much harder fight later on. Also possible punishment from the archmagi if she is ever able to tell them what happened.
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>>23537154
>the thorough way
we'll need a second person to feed on in a year or two anyways
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>>23537175
I'm confused as to whether you're saying that the tendu could contact its allies during an assault or that it had already passed all the information it has up the food chain.
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>>23537154
Trusting them would be crazy. This is the Scholomance.

Thorough way.
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>>23537185
Have you not been reading or are you willfully ignorant?

If we Lunch her and hit the Tengu with overwhelming force with a bit of prep time we'll be fine. If we give her back to the family we are quite likely to have a Tengu and reinforcements blow up our tower and will gain nothing from this.

If we try to negotiate we'll give them information that they can use to hunt us down. If we return her we will have still left a trail that could be followed. Neither of these are good things.

>>23537175
Or we kill the Tengu, make her loyal anyways, and don't have to faff about with bullshit to make people feel more White Knighty.
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Rolled 2

>>23537229
The archmagi give no fucks, none.
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>>23537154
The thorough way, the hopeful way is dumb as fuck.
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>>23537197
This. SOOO fucking this. I think anyone who actually applied an IOTA of logic to the situation would be open to discussing it with Kaoru calmly before destroying everything she is.

For that matter so would anyone who wanted to actually act in-character. Max has had this sort of discussion before. We don't like the kill-or-die way scholomance works.
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Rolled 63

>>23537245
Have you ever seen our dice rolls, I mean, do it if you want, but someones going to die.
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>>23537154
You know what, fuck it. I'm voting the hopefuly way to spite the dicks clamoring for lunch.
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>>23537234
I wouldn't say need, but it'll keep Breakfast from constantly needing to sleep all day.
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>>23537246
Yes, yes they do, you insufferable moron. If there is ever a trail of evidence to point back to a perpetrator, they enact retribution. This has been discussed a million times over. Jesus Christ.
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>>23537154
>trusting people we don't know and taht we've wronged
>what could possibly happen
thorough way
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>>23537185
Because if they have proof of the attack (her) they can get us kicked out of school and it's much easier for them to kill us in the real world.
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>>23537246
If you don't get caught. Letting her go is a great fucking way to get caught.

They're lazy about it, but If someone else gives them proof we're fucked.
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Rolled 98

>>23537258
They attacked us, we would be in the right to capture her and send her home. No name calling in the classroom.
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>>23537228

Seconded
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Shit like these arguments are why I ignore BFQ when I see it in the catalog and just read the archive later.
Holy shit.
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>>23537154
Even tho there is no way it's passing I'm voting plan 1

Hope rides alone
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>>23537252
We don't, but apparently the newfags to the thread do. I'm just honestly hoping this doesn't turn out how it's looking like it will, because up until they started cocking it up, this quest was always the best thread on /tg/.
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>>23537154
Thorough way.
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Rolled 50

>>23537278
Voting 1 if it wasn't obvious.
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>>23537257
no we literally do need a second person once selene has grow enough
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>>23537270
Snapple has the right idea here. It's one more reason not to fuck around.
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>>23537285
link to the post.
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>>23537239

Both.

Special forces training. Assume it makes the smartest tactical choice with a day of prep time.


>>23537245
>h bullshit to make people feel more White Knighty.
Its not about white knighting. Its about surviving to year 2

>>23537185
>>Make her lunch,
>>Make her dead,
>>Make a Deal
>Remind me why lunch is the best option for anyone

This guys has the right of it.
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>>23537295
Go reread your sentence. Now sit in your corner in shame.
>inb4 Lunch is the new Heart of Power
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>>23537292
We don't need another one, we want another one, neither us nor Selene need to feed from sex.
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>>23537273
>They attacked us, we would be in the right to capture her and send her home. No name calling in the classroom
what do you think this is? kindergarten?
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>>23537273
>They attacked us, we would be in the right to capture her and send her home. No name calling in the classroom.

Actually, this is fair. We could go to petrov and ask for him to help mediate it with the family.
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>>23537154
can i get teh answer to my question? Based on her mind will Her Or her family seek revenge if we send her home?

If so i vote we kill the shit out of the bird and have lunch

If not talk to the family.
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>>23537273
And you have proof of their attack where, exactly? All the evidence lying around is in Kaoru's head with our scent in her brain where we broke it or knocked its lights out, and a Tengu that witnessed her disappear, and may or may not already have our trail, given circumstances. We are eliminating a threat, not preying on those weaker than us. This is not embracing Scholomance, this is surviving the ugly side of it. Once we start hunting students with no reason other than preying on them, then you can ride your moral high horse around the thread and accuse people of breaking character.
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>>23537252
Using Karou as a suicide bomber is a better choice than handing her over.

Boner is irrelevant to this because handing her over is bad. Very bad.

Handing her over trades one gamble on the dice for fighting the tengu for three gambles. The two you get in exchange are 1)do they want revenge? 2)Dice on the second fight if the want revenge and 3)Do the archmagi find out.
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>>23537305
>basic human decency
>White Knighty

Or we could go the way that doesn't make you feel justified in your sociopathy.
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>>23537305

Why don't you think we can beat the Tengu?

This is set up for us to be able to handle. We know what it's capable of, how it acts, we have time to plan,AND we have time to get the jump on it.
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>>23537154

Vote/consider option A.
Talk to Liz and Lin.
do NOT jump ahead and do dumb things without prep.
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>>23537318
And we end up starving to death in a dungeon. Great plan.
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>>23537292
Dad is the only one who needs to feed that way, and he's willing to cut back if he has to. Max and Selene just have it as a fun way to get a boost. But Breakfast actually being able to do other stuff than sex and sleep is why a second would help.
>>23537282
Huh, I've been in since thread one, and voted for thorough. Nice strawman, though.
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>>23537154
anyone who picks the first option wants max to die or be expelled
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Voting for thorough.
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Is Milady Femcock still here or is she still enjoying the rather effective tonguebath the man in her boat is getting?
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>>23537307
You're more retarded than Snapple has ever been if you think it's wrong just because he said it.
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>>23537342
And probably for hitting the bell with our dick. Your point?
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>>23537305
Let's look at the three options.

Making her Dead, we get nothing from it. Joy of joys. Sure the body won't be found, and we might still have to kill the Tengu as it'll be poking around and inconvenience us.

Making a Deal, first, we get nothing from this. And then we'll quite possibly have the Tengu and all of his friends come after us with explosive ordinance after researching us and getting all the information about us that making a deal will provide.

Getting Lunch. We get a Mana snack, which we need, leave no trail, and kill the Tengu which we can do if we have the advantage of preptime, numbers, and surprise, if we try to negotiate we lose some of that.
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>>23537329
You're mixing up your arguements/targets dude.

I"m not advocating for lunching(sociopathy) or white knighting(freeing without any sort of plan).

I'm advocating for more information
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>>23537354
Making her dead has the advantage of making it easier to kill the tengu by using her as bait.
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>>23537154
>>23537154
no chance to bind the tengu? our selves ?

lets search her memory see how her family would react

but I am all for lunching her
also we should get the warding tattoos for breakfast too
>>23537175
wrong that is the riskiest plans ever we can take the tengu hell we can probable bind it

>>23537176
to make the new school first we must survive

>>23537185
because we can kill the demon samurai hell we can probable bind the fucker our selves

>>23537196
true

>>23537200
well at least I only post with one name and vote only once samefag

>>23537204
>>23537204
yes this is truth

>>23537273
then her family comes after us or her >>23537274
third

voting 2

>>23537331
hell we could bind it

>>23537349
lol its probable snapple just trolling with our a trip
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>>23537342
>Huh, I've been in since thread one, and voted for thorough. Nice strawman, though.

I feel the same way.

THIS STUFF NEEDS TO BE RE-READ.
For the reasonable fags here, this should be our current character motivation!
>>23537197
>Because their boners demand it. Also, because sociopathy.
>>23537252
>This. SOOO fucking this. I think anyone who actually applied an IOTA of logic to the situation would be open to discussing it with Kaoru calmly before destroying everything she is.
>For that matter so would anyone who wanted to actually act in-character. Max has had this sort of discussion before. We don't like the kill-or-die way scholomance works.
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>>23537154
I vote option three: talk to Liz and Lin, and then EXPLAIN to what's left of Kaoru what sort of situation we're in here. At least give her the option of how we "take care of her", and hope that maybe it makes an impression.

If we don't talk to her, then we won't know which otion is the best, nor will we know if killing/mindwiping her is even necessary.
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>>23537345
FemCOCK always takes ages between posts.
I am still fairly sure it's because their true fetish is watching idiots argue ineffectively.
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>>23537351
>And probably for hitting the bell with our dick. Your point?
also from thread 1 voting thorough, and I think you're strawman is pointless.
ps. I voted against hitting the bell with our dick
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>>23537329
All of your samefag arguments have been ad hominem, accusing other of being morally devoid sociopaths. We should be getting more information before we make a decision either way, but I'm saying I'll need some serious circumstantial evidence that negotiating would be the smart choice before I even consider it.
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>>23537351
Nice try, but I've been against all the genuinely stupid plans, and giving up counts among them.
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>>23537356
Fair point, then. I apologize. ‘I recognize my failing and will be sure to correct it.’
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>>23537371
S/he must be in perpetual orgasm then. Because holy fucking crap this is the worst I've ever seen it.
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Why not force an alliance with her family? Use the fact she attacked us first to get access to the tengu, then offer our dad's knowledge in return. She stays safe, we get an assassin, they get info. Set up one of those things we used on our dad to make sure they don't go back on it.
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>>23537369
What benefit does talking to Kaoru saying "Well you tried to kill me, and if you want to live I'm going to have to mindfuck you into obeying me" have over just mindfucking her into a Lunch? It doesn't have any benefit, it just gives her a way to say no, and honestly, her being dead gets us nothing so don't even provide the option.
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>>23537345
Oh, I'm still here. I'm just barely reading as fast as you silly little sluts are posting. My pet went to bed well over an hour ago.
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>>23537386
Yeah, it is. Apologies all around for my part in it.
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>>23537387
Yes, a half-demon making a deal with a family of Nemesis. Perfect idea.
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>>23537367
>>This. SOOO fucking this. I think anyone who actually applied an IOTA of logic to the situation would be open to discussing it with Kaoru calmly before destroying everything she is.
>>For that matter so would anyone who wanted to actually act in-character. Max has had this sort of discussion before. We don't like the kill-or-die way scholomance works.
Max may not like it, but when it comes to her or max and everyone in the tower the answer is obvious
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>>23537387
You mean a Blood Bond? Which only works on family members. Because last I checked Max was rather occidental, and that'd work. And we REALLY should make a deal with a family of Spirit/Demon Summoners/Binders, no way for that to go wrong when we're half Incubus, nosiree. It's not like their daughter's first reaction to us was to try to capture and enslave us.

Dear god, that's the stupidest idea in this thread, and that is saying a lot.
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Quick question, FemCOCK. Since all of her society's memories have been deleted, would she be kicked out/in danger from them now?

Does she even remember being in a society?
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>>23537391
A chance to come up with a "So, how would you like to not be mindfucked into a cock-hungry cumdump?" option.
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Fine, you want some ethics? Here, have some naturalistic rule utilitarianism, with rawlsian deontology chaser:

We currently find our self in a position where we are confronted by a dilemma of conflicting moral rules. It is wrong to kill, it is wrong to treat a human as a mere means, it is wrong to cause net suffering. Pick whichever maxim you like. The fact of the matter remains, one or more of them will be broken no matter which course we take. The course of action wherin we release her, I would argue, has the highest probability for creating the greatest net suffering (the kind where a Japanese clan of demon binders kills us and everyone we know), while the version where we keep a hold of her, make her loyal in the least destructive ways possible and either kill or re-bind the Tengu have a much higher chance of net good than the alternative.

This is not a dick based argument. These are simply the facts, we have to choose which rules we're going to break, one option allows for better consequence than the other, and we are very much at a consequentialist scenario. We are not paladins, we are not in an environment that allows for strict deontology. We must be pragmatic, and this is sadly the best option available.
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>>23537396
They're using a demon in their service, they can't be TOO crazy about it. Besides, it's not like we lose anything making an offer. They know where we are, we can just off her if they refuse.
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>>23537392

I'm voting for the KILL THE EVERLOVING FUCK OUT OF THE SNIPERTENGU plan.

We can magic up some 155s and/or find a way to get a magic anti-materiel rifle OR make a railgun.

And if that doesn't float your boat, we can always just stalk the damn thing and stab it in the back of the head.
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>>23537369
i am all for doing this but before we talk to them and break our current spell we should check her mind to see how her family is likely to react if we send her back mostly unharmed (which she is). That way the family has more info.
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>>23537154
>thorough way
I don't want to give a family with a history of binding spirits a chance at max
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>>23537424

Do not attempt to engage the centuries-old highly-trained-sharpshooter specops Tengu in a sniper duel.

PLEASE do not do that.
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>>23537374
yes. Thank you! That is why we need to read her mind and find out how her family would react if we returned her.
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>>23537438
DO NOT ENGAGE LU BU.
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>>23537422
>They're using a demon in their service, they can't be TOO crazy about it.
You mean the one that's bound to serve them, and they pass on to their kids like a sword?
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>>23537422
>They're using a demon in their service, they can't be TOO crazy about it.
You're mixing up Dextra Domini and Nemesis. DD are the ones that purge the non-humans. Nemesis enslave them for their own self-serving purposes. Making any contact with Nemesis that doesn't involve us breaking their minds or killing them is asking for a fate worse than death for us and everyone they can dig out of our skull.
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>>23537417
We need a cock-hungry cumslut. We can keep her intelligent, we can keep her magically able, we just remove the right memories and stuff loyalty, devotion, and whatever fetish we feel like into her. Same result, but without the possibility of her refusing and us doing it anyway or beating around the bush about it.

>>23537428
We aren't sending her back. For fuck's sake we aren't sending her back, it's a terrible idea for multiple reasons that have already been stated.
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If we're gonna kill it, don't just stop with a bullet. Vaporize the fucker.
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>>23536994
>Okay, so here's my plan. Get the various opinions from Lin, Liz, and Dimitri, then address what's left of Kaoru. Explain to her that even though she made the first attack, we would not be averse to helping her recover under two conditions: first, that she allows us to make her completely loyal to us, and second, that she helps us take care of the Tengu one way or the other.
>We get a potential extra set of hands, she gets strength in numbers and safety from us. If she turns us down, killing her seems the only option: if she's dead, the Tengu can't return her to her family and this that condition is removed from the equation.

This is the best one. here's why:

>>23537354
Let's look at the four options.

Making her Dead, we get nothing from it. Body won't be found, tengu hunts us(in class/during travel), have to kill tengu. How?(does it have a blood bond? How many foci does it have? What sorts of permanent enhancements does it have? Will the tgdice kill us? yes)

Making a Deal A: We get nothing, they come for us as hard as the tengu would if it called its friends in, which it would do anyway.

Making a deal B: We get an ally, an understanding, and some respect for NOT being a scholomance dick, and out of jail free, and possible our secrets intact.


Getting Lunch. We get a Mana snack(room in tower is an issue), leave no trail, and kill the Tengu(not guaranteed, see above) which we can do if we have the advantage of preptime(it had a day for contingency plans between us finding her sanctum and the attack), numbers(not guaranteed, karou's existing summons+family connections+society in scholomance), and surprise(maybe), if we try to negotiate we lose some of that.
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>>23537317
No, but you sound like you're in kindergarten when you insult people over the Internet for minor disagreements. Honest advice here.
>>23537154
Voting option 1, didn't link to fem before, oops. Also we need to talk to Liz and Lin.
I'm really surprised people get so mad, on the Internet, who'da thought?
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>>23537421
agree for the greater good
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>>23537438

I'd much rather go with the tried and tested method of dropping enough ordnance on him from OTH that he'll die screaming, but if not, we can magic up some spotter drones and wallhax him with a railgun.
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>>23537391
Reread the last line of my post and you'll have your explanation for why I want to talk to her first. Here, I'll make it easy for you:
>If we don't talk to her, then we won't know which otion is the best, nor will we know if killing/mindwiping her is even necessary.
Mindwiping her now takes away the option of cooperation.
>>23537400
... which is? We haven't asked Lin or Liz, so how do we know how they feel? We could at least tell them WHY she came after us first.
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>>23537451
Mmm, my bad. We're gonna need a LOT more leverage in that case. If we're even gonna bother.
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>>23537386
>S/he must be in perpetual orgasm then. Because holy fucking crap this is the worst I've ever seen it.

GUYS GUYS GUYS, lets hit the dryad discussion again!
With our dick!
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>>23537451
And don't forget, we hold a tower key. If she had managed to bind us, there are 4 people in the tower who'd suddenly be in grave danger.
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>Kill Karou
We get to use her as bait / suicide bomber. The fight is made easier.

>Lunch karou
We get a bigger recharge sooner which means we can hit the tengu sooner. We also get a larger energy and spell potential reserves for the future.

>Send her back
1) Pray they don't want revenge (They will want revenge. They're Japanese demon binders)
2) Fight a bigger force of tengu + backup
3)Hope the archmagi don't find out.

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Even if there was going to be zero smut scenes written about it, Lunching her is the best option.

We get a short term boost and a long term boost.

If we send her back we get fuck tons of paranoia and yet another thing to constantly look over our shoulder for.
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>>23537479
>With our dick
And a wendigos heart of power!
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>>23537462
Making a Deal A means it comes in with all of its friends and information on us, it will know who we are and blow up our tower. B seems unlikely and not worth gambling on.

We have wards, we have magic, we have Foci, we have a Incubus, we can mind whammy it, we can teleport its brain/heart out, we have the drop on it and if we lose that it becomes a fucking crapshoot.

>>23537475
Cooperation is a terrible idea, we can not trust her in any way, shape, or form, unless we have mindfucked her into obedience/loyalty.
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>>23537421
Or we could see if she would rather submit to some safeguards, keep both her life and most of her mind+memories, and work WITH us rather than suffer.
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>>23537475
You realize it will probably take days to reconstruct her mind and we are at risk from the tengu next time we leave the house, right?
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>>23537414
Every moment and fact in any way relevant to her society is gone - including moments where she just idly thought about them. The mind virus did more damage to her memory than your mental attack did, though your mental attack still did damage to her memory and the rest of her mind as well.
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>>23537462
Deal B relies on her NOT being a scholomance dick, which she already showed herself to be. Still, I agree with interrogating her before any further plans are made.
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>>23537503
Leaves the capability for her to rebel and kill us, no.
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>>23537496
You seem to be ignoring the fourth option: cooperation.
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>>23537496
If we kill her and her demon, her family WILL come for us, they will spend every asset finding us, and they have a very good chance of killing us.
There is less guarantee we are safe if we kill them than if we make a deal.
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>>23537391
>What benefit does talking to Kaoru saying "Well you tried to kill me, and if you want to live I'm going to have to mindfuck you into obeying me" have over just mindfucking her into a Lunch? It doesn't have any benefit, it just gives her a way to say no, and honestly, her being dead gets us nothing so don't even provide the option.

"hey. So.... you tried to kill us. Sorry we followed you home. We understand you were just trying to protect yourself. Can I get you anything? Some water? A truce??"
If no, then, someothing else.
If yes "Well, we poked around in your head, and saw what you had planned for us. That's not nice. But. This was kind of a misunderstanding. So. We're giving you a chance to talk us out, well, returning the favor. We aren't feeling really murderous today."

"Well. We'll give you a phone so you can call off your tengu. Then.... we can all talk about calling this fight off and using magic to forget about it. Fair? We kinda feel sorry for you, so we'll help put your mind back together if it helps - you were gonna do the same to us with your trap, so, take the deal or leave it."
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>>23537496
Handing her back and pretending like it's something else isn't any different from just handing her back.
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>>23537452
I dont want to send her back ether but if the idiots ho want to white Knight or are just squeamish here from her own Brain how likely there plan is to fail then Maybe they will shut up it will also make me more confident i am right.
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>>23537502
WHICH FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME WAS ALWAYS THE WAY IT WOULD WORK.

I have never once advocated letting her go completely free, just offering to limit the amount of mindfucking involved to what is necessary to ensure her cooperation.
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>>23537386
It's a known fact that /tg/ players cannot handle moral conundrums or difficult decisions without the objective outcomes predetermined and laid out for them. Every thread based on a moral dilemma, and every quest in the history of this board that has a moral dilemma has always hit a big brick wall for hours on end as anywhere from a half-dozen to many dozens of people bicker endlessly about the pros and cons, never reaching a conclusion.
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>>23537537
And they'll have no leads other than the fact that it was one of the many deadly things in scholomance.
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>>23537540
And we know she's not lying under duress because?
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>>23537550
Meant to link to>>23537534

>>23537537
The tengu is the only one that has even seen us yet. Kill it and their family learns nothing.
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>>23537537
They will have nothing to go on. This is FUCKING SCHOLOMANCE, students disappearing is common, if the just drops off the radar and leaves no evidence anywhere they aren't going to cause a commotion. It's when we give them a trail to follow that the shit hits the fan.

>>23537540
Dear god, please not this. This means the Tengu gets more information on who has her and where she is, this is a terrible idea in every single aspect.
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>900 posts
I don't think I have ever seen a non sticky thread get this many replies.
I don't know what to say.
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>>23537413
>You mean a Blood Bond? Which only works on family members. Because last I checked Max was rather occidental, and that'd work. And we REALLY should make a deal with a family of Spirit/Demon Summoners/Binders, no way for that to go wrong when we're half Incubus, nosiree. It's not like their daughter's first reaction to us was to try to capture and enslave us.
>Dear god, that's the stupidest idea in this thread, and that is saying a lot.

You're misunderstanding.
I"m saying it won't be possible for us to bind the tengu to our service, because IT probably has a blood bond to ITs family.

not us<-> tengu but to japs<-tengu. The kind of blood bond/nemesis bond/permanent binding ritual so that we can't jack control of it
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>>23537525
Jesus Christ, YOU ARE A RETARD. Mindfucking her into being loyal to us gets around that little problem. That was always a part of the plan.

There are ways to ensure that she won't rebel.
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Let's talk to her no use wasting a character fem spent time making
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>>23537553
If she know about it then it will be removed once she's out of our influence
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>>23537570

It's been free, and she disappeared, what? Half an hour ago?

It is probably safe to assume that they have been informed.
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>>23537540
>"hey. So.... you tried to kill us. Sorry we followed you home. We understand you were just trying to protect yourself. Can I get you anything? Some water? A truce??"

>"Well, we poked around in your head, and saw what you had planned for us. That's not nice. But. This was kind of a misunderstanding. So. We're giving you a chance to talk us out, well, returning the favor. We aren't feeling really murderous today."

"Well. We'll give you a phone so you can call off your tengu. Then.... we can all talk about calling this fight off and using magic to forget about it. Fair? We kinda feel sorry for you, so we'll help put your mind back together if it helps - you were gonna do the same to us with your trap, so, take the deal or leave it."
Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Please, please tell me you're not thinking that will actually work. Giving her a fucking phone? Giving her a means of communication with the outside world? Giving her a way to contact her family? Are you kidding me?
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>>23537570
Or it's already told them. What would you do as soon as your daughter(perceived daughter) was kidnapped? Run to her rescue alone and unprepared or get your friends, the police, and some guns.
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>>23537391
>Well you tried to kill me, and if you want to live I'm going to have to mindfuck you into obeying me

Because the people insisting on PERMANENT LOYALTY PROGRAMMING are dumb and thats not how you make a deal with an awake karou.
Its the same people lunchwanking saying that.

reasonable solution is waking her up, making a deal, and using enchantment to make EVERYONE forget details of each other - including the tengu
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>>23537540
>She has serious damage to her mind
>Has every single moment related to her society ripped out and gone
>Still more damage from our mental sniper fire
>Thinks reason can work with her right now
>Still has a loyal murderninja
>thinks letting her call said murderninja with directive retrieve at all costs from inside the Tower is a good idea.
wow
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>>23537570
Cooperation IS NOT the same as "handing her back".
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>>23537595
>the police
Oh god, you really have no idea how this school works, do you?
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>>23537589
It was bound to retrieve her before anything else. It can relatively safely be assumed that all of its efforts in the last half-hour have been devoted to finding us rather than giving the family a vague description and admitting the Shamefur Dispray of failing to protect the family's daughter.
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>>23537154
>>23537519

In that case, maybe we can work out a deal with her. That way we have a chance for another potential ally, even getting the Tengu on our side without a fight.

Yeah, I'm voting talk to her.
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>>23537595
>Or it's already told them. What would you do as soon as your daughter(perceived daughter) was kidnapped? Run to her rescue alone and unprepared or get your friends, the police, and some guns.

DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER.
And NOW you see why i've been pushing for negotiation.

Killing it doesn't do a phat lot of good when its already done exactly what you pointed out
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Hey FemCOCK, this is entirely unrelated to the shitstorm that you stirred up with Kaoru, but I was wondering.
If we made a pseudobody of some kind, could we modify that sense-sharing spell to let us command it, like a remote control drone?
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>>23537595
>>23537589
Then it told them that they kicked the crap out of a short haired girl a day before Karou disappeared.


Thats all they have. They will have much more if we send her back.

If we can break minds they can unbreak them.
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>>23537607
Wut? WHAT? WHAT?? Dear fucking GOD NO!

Making a deal like that is fucking retarded, it gets us nothing and doesn't solve any of our problems.
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>>23537618
Goddamn, the example was an example, since he knows who we are the police in this case is the archmagi, the friends being a ninja clan.
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It looks like the consensus is to talk to Liz and Lin about what to do next, and that, though divided, the majority want to murder the tengu and alter Kaoru's mind to make her loyal, though by how much it's uncertain. Is this accurate? And no, I'm not asking for your votes, I'm asking if this is an accurate assessment.
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>>23537588
If you make her completely loyal to you, she won't WANT to remove that part of the control now would she?

Please use your brain. It must be growing atrophied by now.
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>>23537621
>It was bound to retrieve her before anything else. It can relatively safely be assumed that all of its efforts in the last half-hour have been devoted to finding us rather than giving the family a vague description and admitting the Shamefur Dispray of failing to protect the family's daughter.

Keep in mind that there was a FULL DAY between us finding Karous santum and her attacking us.
Not a half hour.
a DAY of military planning and strategy.
and THEN a half our ish to execute contingency plans.
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>>23537641
Fucking yes.

Kill the fucking bird.
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>>23537641
sounds about right.
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>>23537626
Negotiation is the worst option. Keeping her under wraps gives them no information and we can take out the Tengu and there are no loose ends.

Negotiating gives them information that lets them FUCK US IN THE ASS WITH A SNIPER RIFLE!

>>23537641
That sounds about right.
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>>23537607
>reasonable solution is waking her up, making a deal, and using enchantment to make EVERYONE forget details of each other - including the tengu
No, thats the most likely solution to fuck us, not the most reasonable option
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>>23537643
>If you make her completely loyal to you, she won't WANT to remove that part of the control now would she?
>Please use your brain. It must be growing atrophied by now.
>implying that the tengu or her family aren't the ones that will remove it
think a little first
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>>23537641
Yep
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>>23537641
It is.
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>>23537641
that sounds right
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>>23537641
bind/murder tengu, in order of failure. otherwise yes, correct.
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>>23537641
Agreed
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>>23537641
That is correct. Please , for the love of all that is holy, write up the next post so people will stop bickering so much. We can't make any kind of decision with the information given.
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>>23537462
Making a Deal A: We get nothing, they come for us as hard as the tengu would if it called its friends in, which it would do anyway.

not if they had no leads like most missing people in scholomance

her connection to the society is gone wiped from her mind we fucker her hard to begin with

>>23537519
see they will not be happy with damaged goods

>>23537540
are you retarded ? or do you want max lix lin Selene breakfast and max's dad dead?

>>23537607
but that wouldn't work at all the tengu wouldn't submit then we get hunted

>>23537626
its not her daughter but a bound servant for generations probable hates them all its orders are to recover her not inform any one

>>23537641
yes I want it bound but yea
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>>23537641
Kill the tengu
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Hey, not contributing or suggesting, but I'm just telling you now, I've been catching up on this quest from the archives, since someone mentioned it was based on Scholomance in a meta thread. I marathonned the first third of it in one evening and my dick was still sore when I woke up this morning.
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>>23537641
Right.
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>>23537633
They're assassins, who can say they won't just kill half the first circle looking for us?
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>>23537641

Yes.

Ask Liz and Lin how feasible it would be to rig up a mass teleport for high-explosive shells that ALSO imparts velocity to said shells.

FUCK SNIPER DUEL, LEVEL THE FUCKING BLOCK.

If someone IC thinks of it, we can also try one of the Russian thermobaric bombs or rocket pods, those should work if the Tengu's hide is in a building,at least to flush it. Depends how dangerous massive overpressure is to hardened people.
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>>23537644
She also had a lot of time between failing to bind us and us teleporting her, but she didnt act on it. Remember that she is just as green as we are, perhaps moreso since her tengu only has military experience, not Scholomance experience like our dad has. He knows the score around here like she and her tengu do not, so in a way we have some advantages.

Even if some of her previous family went through Scholomance, they aren't here guiding her step by step and the tengu is reactionary rather than proactive and singleminded, so we have a few advantages to exploit.

Think of it like a Dark Souls boss. Its all about find its weakness to exploit and learning its pattern.
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>>23537641

No, its not accurate.

I think the only concensus at this point is to gain more information and opinion from our allies.

I think ALL sides of the arguement are just debating on their opinions and assumptions without any real information.

what I really want is more info on the situation: Details we can use to reach concensus:
Karou's memories of her family's reactions
karou's memories of her prep for us
karous memories of any contingency plans
karous memories of phone #'s in case we NEED to talk to someone
Hell, what her personality is like at all
Liz + Lin opinion. Especially super-asian

Are about the only good ideas i've seen, and finding them is like finding needles in a haystack.

More info, ESPECIALLY when everyone's yammingering like this.
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>>23537641
I think that unfortunately yes, it seems more people are leaning towards something like "talk to the girls, kill the tengu, mindfuck Kaoru".

I'm still trying to convince the lunchify crowd into taking a more reasonable approach.
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>>23537641
We're at the bottom of page 8 now, BTW.
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>>23537702
We're trying not to blow everything up, blowing everything up is how you get Archmagi on your case.

If Dad thinks it's feasible to teleport his heart out then we can just do so, no fuss, no muss, just pop bang.
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>>23537641
FUCK NO

>We can't make any kind of decision with the information given.
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>>23537641
that is the majority
can we check her mind for how likely cooperation is to work before we break the spell pleas.
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>>23537694
I'm glad to hear that you've liked it. I hope you've been voting it up the archives, as I've been asking people to do in every thread. It's only a matter of time before people who dislike the name downvote it enough to get it purged; I just hope that happens later rather than sooner.
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>>23537641
Kill Tengu, Mindrape Kaoru, aka Hirume

>>23537712
Shut up.
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>>23537641

No way.
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>>23537725

That's the best course of action, though.

This isn't about ethics or morals, and we're beyond that point anyways.

We'll protect ourselves, and more importantly, our sub and our daughter. And that means bitch gotta be Lunch and Tengu must die.
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>>23537701
archmagi would notice
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Not advocating it at this point, but I'm kinda surprised no one mentioned doing an inverse binding on K. Make is so she is bound to die if we do.
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>>23537641
Yes sounds right
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>>23537712
Let's, at least with all the info we can make the best decision, if based on the information we find it's best to kill her or enslave, then fuck it, we will do that, but why not know more when we have time.
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>>23537641
Make her hyperloyal. Get her to call off the tengu if we can.
>>23537626
Maybe if we bind/kill the tengu, we will have more negotiating power. Right now we are just a kid with a meatshield rather than something to take seriously. I highly doubt such a prestigious wizard family will give us the time of day for lucking our way into their daughters head and pants.
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>>23537734
Hey Fem, any chance for a response to >23537629 ?
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I just want to read about Max fucking her dad, is that so wrong?
Lets argue about this again
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>>23537641

Nuh uh! don't kill it YET
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>>23537712
>Karou's memories of her family's reactions
If her family is connected to her society, they're gone from her memory.
>karou's memories of her prep for us
If any of it involved anything from her society, it's gone.
>karous memories of any contingency plans
If any of them involved her society, they're gone.
>karous memories of phone #'s in case we NEED to talk to someone
If any of them are connected to her society, they're gone.
>Hell, what her personality is like at all
This has been damaged severely by our mind sniping, and also the virus implanted by her society. It's not reliable.
>Liz + Lin opinion. Especially super-asian
This is agreeable.
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>>23537712
yes this

>>23537641
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>>23537641

Totally disagree.
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>>23537748
The archmagi won't intervene if there is not much evidence, like how Dextra kills tons of students all the time, same goes for ninja's on a revenge quest/
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>>23537753
Dad already said killing the tengu is the more thorough option.

All that remains is deciding the tactics.
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>>23537745
Kill the tengu, I can see. But I don't think we should be in a rush to wipe out everything Kaoru is without making DAMN sure it's our only option.
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>>23537660
>Negotiating gives them information that lets them FUCK US IN THE ASS WITH A SNIPER RIFLE!

False. There are WAY more ways to negotiate than in person.

We can use illusions. we can use teleports. we can use letters. we can use phones.
We don't have to open the door to the tower and do it the dumb way you keep strawman assuming we do.
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>>23537725
>I'm still trying to convince the lunchify crowd into taking a more reasonable approach.
This IS the reasonable approach. Your approach is unreasonably idealistic, you are just trying to lord over us with the moral high ground by insinuating we are acting out of lust rather than pragmatism. And sure, you may have the moral high ground, but that dont mean shit in Scholomance.
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>>23537801
I don't get why he's trying to take the moral highground when we're wallowing in a fucking moral trench.

And we have been for dozens of threads.
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>>23537788
It's not going to be like Breakfast where he did a quick and dirty "fuck it all, let's start from the beginning."

If nothing else she's going to be a lot of work just correcting what her own society did burning their existence from her brain.
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>>23537788
>Kill the tengu, I can see. But I don't think we should be in a rush to wipe out everything Kaoru is without making DAMN sure it's our only option.

>>23537782
>Dad already said killing the tengu is the more thorough option.

Its NOT thorough unless we counter any plans it ALREADY has in motion, and we DONT do that without more info from karou, which means NO LUNCH. Dad is also scholomance brutal, and doesn't always make the right choices.

>>23537641
No, we're not ready to move on, please reassess
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>>23537641
I want to bind the tengu if at all possible, but I agree with the rest of that stuff.
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>>23537795
any of those methods give out information some less than others but all leak info like a sive to a clever mage.
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>>23537795
>we can use letters
useable as a focus against us
>use phones
traceable
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>>23537795
Sorry, but how is teleports not in person?
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>>23537827
Yes, but our much more reliable moral center in Liz agrees with making her into Lunch too, so what's your point?
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>>23537712
Upvote this, since it deserves some support

>>23537641
Its the only sort of agreement we have.

Dont be afraid to multi-post a BIG POST full of fitting reactions and stories. LORD knows we need it and some emotional guidance from the cast
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>>23537829
That would be ideal but it is to much risk in my and others opinions it may for example be blood bound to its masters or any other fuckery.
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>>23537801
I'm no the one who's been insinuating. All I want to do is convince some of you people that the possibility of getting an ally out of it while simultaneously defusing some of the potential vengeance motives is a more pragmatic alternative.
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>>23537827
The known plan it has in motion are that 30 mins ago Karou disappeared and now it's in terminator mode. It's going to try to retrieve her and leave.

We need to find out if she already contacted her family about this. If she has then that changes things, but the odds are she didn't and that means killing the tengu ASAP rids all traces of this.
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>>23537827
>Its NOT thorough unless we counter any plans it ALREADY has in motion
It does not have nearly enough info on us to put any plans beyond the immediate rescue of Kaoru to motion. What will it tell her family, that a lightly tanned girl with short black hair and a suspicious bulge in her pants may or may not have abducted your daughter? That could be any number of people ignoring the bulge joke, which we still don't know if there are any other lady incubi in scholomance so it could be valid even then
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>>23537855
>Yes, but our much more reliable moral center in Liz agrees with making her into Lunch too,

Liz isn't informed that there's a FUCKING TENGU HUNTING HER AND US.

She's not only our moral center, but also our brains.
Fill her in in all the information, THEN see how her opinion changes.
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We're gonna need to close off the thread soon, Page 9.
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>>23537843
>Sorry, but how is teleports not in person?

We don't necessarily have to teleport people.
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>>23537874
>>Yes, but our much more reliable moral center in Liz agrees with making her into Lunch too,
>Liz isn't informed that there's a FUCKING TENGU HUNTING HER AND US.

Remember, its JUST us and dad here.

We NEED to talk to lin and liz BEFORE acting
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>>23537871
Hell, it was probably with her when we mind punched her. It fucking knows something's up.
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>>23537867
If I had evidence that her family wold hold up there end of the bargain that might work but unless we get that info from her mind i cant condone that course of action.
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>>23537885
Ah, thought you were trying to get around the "any physical object we handle with a purpose in mind is usable as a targeting focus on us" problem with either showing up in person, or talking through and open portal which is slightly worse sines the tengu wouldn't need to tidy up the scene of Max's murder.
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>>23537867
>I'm no the one who's been insinuating. All I want to do is convince some of you people that the possibility of getting an ally out of it while simultaneously defusing some of the potential vengeance motives is a more pragmatic alternative.

YES YES YES A MILLION TIMES YES

>>23537904
>If I had evidence that her family wold hold up there end of the bargain that might work but unless we get that info from her mind i cant condone that course of action.

There are other ways to do this!

>>23537890
>We NEED to talk to lin and liz BEFORE acting
Holy fuck! Why didn't I think of this before. We need to ask CARL about this - dealing with protecting students is something societies do, right?
WHY have we been neglecting this angle before?

Shit call a lotus buddy up and see if they can't ask for advice
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>>23537874
yes but there is more info we need before we talk to her and we cant afford the drain of recasting the mind probe so lets get that and then talk to liz ok?
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>>23537904
We're not bargaining with her family, we're seeing if we might be able to bargain with HER.

For the life of me, I don't understand why so many people are so unwilling to even try talking to her.
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>>23537917
>Ah, thought you were trying to get around the "any physical object we handle with a purpose in mind is usable as a targeting focus on us" problem with either showing up in person, or talking through and open portal which is slightly worse sines the tengu wouldn't need to tidy up the scene of Max's murder.

Fuck, no, niggah! If we open communnication, we do it SMARTLY. Teleport a printed letter that we handled with gloves or something.

Ive been SAYING this for a while, but all the WAH WAH WAH ITS DANGEROUS WAH people neglect to mention you can do it without much risk.
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>>23537920
Because lotus is neutral, they don't want involvement in this.
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>>23537929
>We're not bargaining with her family, we're seeing if we might be able to bargain with HER.
>For the life of me, I don't understand why so many people are so unwilling to even try talking to her.

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>>23537943
>Because lotus is neutral, they don't want involvement in this.
You don't know that
and
prestige societies exist to protect students
they're kind of like magical gangs
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>>23537920
Bringing it to Lotus takes time and requires us to leave the tower. We deal with it tonight, we port the Tengu's heart out or some other method, and then we fuck Lunch, both literally and figuratively.

Dude, trying for negotiations or anything like that is a terrible idea. We deal with the vengeance thing by not giving them anything to go on, she just disappears and life is good.
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>>23537929
There isn't much to talk to at the moment and we need to act quickly?
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>>23537641

Again, a NO to rushing ahead with ANYTHING.
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>>23537867
>I'm no the one who's been insinuating.
By calling everyone you disagree with the “lunchify crowd” you are insinuating a great deal.

And we are getting an ally. She will be much smarter than Breakfast and we may be able to get us a tengu out of it too. If you mean a person still involved in Scholomance studies, you should've thought about that before we fucking teleported her into our fucking private sanctum.

The moment we decided to teleport her, her fate was sealed. There is no way for her to safely leave this tower without us killing her in some sense of the word. And I wouldn't give her back to her family with anything less than a clean wipe, which makes the whole point moot anyways.
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>>23537920
as tio geting info from her mind it wont hurt her it is highly accurate and she cant lie what other source do you want? Calling her family or minion will endanger us to much.
Also waiting for her to wake up costs time and risks lies and we want all the info we can get now before we invest that time that MIGHT be better spent killing the bird.
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>>23537946
>>23537929
What's there to talk about with her?

We are never letting her leave the tower after this without anti-scry stuff stuck on her, we need to mindfuck her into loyalty if she is to live in the tower, talking to her about it gives us nothing.

The pragmatic/sane option is to kill the Tengu, make her into our loyal slut, with whatever fetishes we want (this bit is for smut value), keep her magic intact in our service, and remove whatever bits of her mind/personality that are detrimental to us.

Talking to her changes nothing about this.
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>>23537968
We deal with the vengeance thing by not giving them anything to go on, she just disappears and life is good.

HEY ASSHOLE THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE AND OUR ROUTE TO SCHOOL AND CAN QUITE EASILY IMPERSONATE STUDENTS IN CLASS AND AROUND THE SCHOOL

THIS ROUTE LEADS TO A NINJA GANKING US AFTER CLASS, MIND RAPING THE INFO ABOUT LUNCH OUT OF US WITH ITS MASSIVE ENCHANTMENT, STEALING THE KEY WE KEEP TO GET INSIDE THE CLOCKTOWER, AND GETTING LUNCH BACK ANYWAY.

ALL THE LUNCHTARDS ARE IGNORING THAT IT ALREADY KNOWS WHO WE ARE AND ITS MAKING ME REGRET EVER SUGGESTING BREAKFAST IN THE FIRST PLACE
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>>23537990
And even then only having her leave by the outbound port circle, no way she's going to leave any sign of where we are.
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You and your father pull out of her mind. "She has some kind of crazy special forces ninja spirit," you say as soon as you're out. "It will apparently stop at nothing to see her returned safely to her family. Dad says our only real options are to try to negotiate and hope for the best and that they don't try to kill us anyway or to drop overwhelming force on it and keep her under our wing."

"How intact is she?" asks Liz.

"More than Breakfast on her best day. A lot of her memories got wiped by some kind of mind virus, and we did some damage, but I think we can get her back up to reasonable functionality," says your dad.

"Well, normally I would advocate negotiating," Lin starts, "But I can afford to take that kind of a risk. In your position, I would do whatever needs to be done to guarantee that you keep yourself, your family, and Selene safe."

"I couldn't agree more," says Liz. "This isn't about just us - any risk we take is also a risk that affects Selene. We should start putting together foci while we wait for our strain to subside, then drop a piece of the sun on it or something."

"Yes, I'm not sure whether or not tengu have vital organs to be stolen," your father agrees. "Overkill may be justified here. Unless you want to negotiate of course. That's still an option at this point."

What's your response?
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>>23537934
it is the intent that makes something a targeting tool not a physical connection just like how thinking about hoodie bitch was enough to target her. Targeting the letter sender is enough to hit us.
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>>23538009
>What's there to talk about with her?

FUCKS SAKE READ UP A BIT. TONS OF GOOD IDEAS REGARDING TALKING TO HER AND THINGS TO SAY. JUST IGNORE ALL POSTS BY LUNCHFRENZY SAMEFAGS
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>>23538010
You mean the ninja that we're killing? They don't fucking know who we are. all the Tengu knows right now is that she went after some student and he saw her through a scope, he doesn't have any idea who we are, where we are or anything like that.
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>>23538021
"I agree. Lets start gathering foci to kill the tengu"
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>>23538021

Don't those Russians have weird missiles that kill you by pulping your internal organs or something? Maybe we can make some and just level the building the Tengu is in. If that isn't too overt an action for the Magi to investigate.
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>>23538012
>And even then only having her leave by the outbound port circle, no way she's going to leave any sign of where we are.

THIS STILL ENDS UP WITH MAX DEAD
DO YOU WANT YOUR PRECIOUS DICKGIRL DOMMY DEAD?
FEM HAS BEEN PERFECTLY WILLING TO KILL US OFF BEFORE. REMEMBER THE INCIDENT WITH THE DD ROOMATE GUNSLINGER? YEAH. THAT NEARLY ENDED THE QUEST RIGHT THERE.

WHATEVER WE DO NOW, WE PLAY THE ODDS TO SURVIVE WITHOUT A SWORD OF DAMOCLES HANGING OVER OUR HEAD. THAT MEANS NOT MAKING RASH PERMANENT DECISIONS RIGHT THE FUCK NOW>
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>>23538021
Maximum overkill
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>>23538021
Is mom safe?
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>>23538021
"Lets start getting ready to burn it into nothing."
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>>23538036
>You mean the ninja that we're killing? They don't fucking know who we are.

FUCKING WRONG. THEY SHOT AT US WITH A RIFLE. THEY HAD US IN OUR SCOPE. THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE.
EVEN IF THEY DONT KNOW A NAME THEY CAN FIND OUT EASY AND SCHOOL IS 5 DAYS A WEEK
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>>23538021
Kill the tengu with something like 50 foci.

Ask dad if he can use the Word written out as foci
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>>23538053
That's what most bombs do, actually. They kill with concussive force, not the fires of the explosion. That's why people outside of the immediate blast radius can still die days later of massive internal bleeding.
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>>23538034
See, this is what I'm talking about. You seem to think that anyone who is leery about trusting the girl that tried to fucking enslave us to her will is thinking with their dick. Im actually all for talking to her even if we do end up mindwiping her, but you are a massive tool.
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>>23538021
"Overkill is the only sane response. If he doesn't have vital organs we gather Foci, and either teleport a bit of sun into/near him or some other suitably explosive thing, but the sun bit is probably the best option."
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>>23538021
lets kill the Bird
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>>23538021
Over kill there is no over kill there is firing and is it dead?

also think we could bind it?
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>>23538021
We're going to have to kill that tengu.
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>>23538021
"Then we don't have any time to waste. We need to blast this tengu into atoms."
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>>23538021
there is no overkill just open fire and I need to reload
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>>23538021
We need to new thread nooow
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>>23538069
Which is why it's going to die.
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>>23538021

"Lin! Do you remember anything about tengu from your previous lives?"
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>>23538021
Agreed, grab a light bulb, a lighter, the mathematical formula for the amount of energy the sun emits, coordinates for the sun on the stellar scale based on our location, and the tengus true name.
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>>23538069
The Tengu knows very little about us and we're preventing it from getting more by KILLING IT NOW.
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>>23538034
>JUST IGNORE ALL POSTS BY LUNCHFRENZY SAMEFAGS
You mean the posters who outnumber you and disagree with your cowardly opinion, and even what L&L think go opposite to you?
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>>23538021
Fucking nuke the shit out of it.
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>>23538021
Kill or bind. I want to bind, but I can settle for kill quite nicely.
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>>23538075

Yeah, I know that, but I was trying to make Max-speak for thermobaric rockets, preferably either RPO-Ms, S-8s, or S-13s, and either a custom-alchemy'd drone to use them or a good network of spotters for indirect fire.

Since I'm guessing using a Smerch MLRS firing cluster rockets would be a bit too much.
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>>23538021
Sunbomb the tengu, keep Kaoru "under our wing". And by that I mean keep KAORU here, not Lunch.

The Tengu is a clear threat, and nobody would be able to argue otherwise. Overkill is justified. But Kaoru is a different matter. I still say we should keep her as whole as we can without putting ourselves at risk, and I do not believe making her into Lunch is justified at this point.
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>>23538021
Sigh
Fine just try to keep her at least a reasonable facsimile of the person she once was.

I feel like this is worse than just killing her I mean she dies she ends here life as she was but we are going to rip her apart and puppet her corpse around with a fake person inside but that's more of a personal thing I guess
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>>23538069
Typing in allcaps just shows how wrong you are.
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>>23538021
Also we should tell Lin she is part of our family the way she gave her advice makes me think she doesn't see herself that way. And that needs to be fixed.
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>>23538074
>word written as a foci
Why? Honestly curious because unless he's writing a poem about killing the tengu I don't see how it counts as a focus. And at that point he could just write it in English.
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>>23538069
>>23538090
>Which is why it's going to die.
AGAIN, YOURE IGNORING THE FACT THAT A SPECIAL FORCES NINJA SPIRIT HAD A DAY OF PREP TIME TO TELL THE NINJA FAMILY AND NEMESIS WHAT THEY WERE UP TO AND WHAT TO DO IF THEY DIE

WE CAN KILL THE SPIRIT BUT IN DOING SO WE LOSE ANY ABILITY TO NULLIFY ITS CONTINGENCY PLANS.

THIS WILL ALSO END UP WITH US DYING DOWN THE ROAD
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>>23538021
I propose a compromise to both parties. We kill the Tengu, leave Kaoru relatively as she is, keep her bound and secured magically and physically, and then, after we KILL THE FUCKING TENGU, we start getting her to cooperate. We remove the immediate urgency of the situation, and we may very well still acquire negotiation capabilities. Remember, these are Nemesis we're dealing with; they only care about demons insofar as they are useful. They don't put sentimental value on their thralls, only pragmatic value. I doubt they'll care all that much that they lost ONE decent spirit that they valued as expendable enough to send away with an initiate.
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>>23538111
>Fine just try to keep her at least a reasonable facsimile of the person she once was.
She already is, for fucks sake. No one wants to make her a gibbering idiot, we just want to install loyalty protocols.
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>>23538036
>all the Tengu knows right now is that she went after some student and he saw her through a scope,
ware dresses, shave head and get a different color wig with long hair
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I vote overkill. Teleport a pound of dry ice inside the Tengu.
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>>23538111
Is a person with partial memory loss now a dead person with a fake person inside? Is someone who has brain damage that affects their personality a dead person with a fake person inside? Is someone who has a drug addiction, brainwashing - any of these things that change someone's personality and memories now dead and replaced with someone new?

No. We're allowing her to live, just with some changes. That's a damn sight more merciful than simply killing someone - ending everything they ever were and ever could be, ending their continuity of consciousness, just plain ending them.
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>>23538108
Making her Lunch is justified, making her Hirumeshi as well, which is just Japanese for Lunch.

We can keep her magically capable, intelligent, useful, but we remove the memories and personality traits that will be detrimental to us as well as adding in plenty of sluttiness because she may as well enjoy the fact that she's going to get fucked by every member of the household.
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>>23538122
This is a birdman, not a Batman. A day of prep time doesnt suddenly make it invincible to the sun.
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>>23538111
People are the sum of their mental processes, she's not dieing just because we alter some shit.
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>>23538130
And tear out all the desire, or memory of how to bind and control spirits.
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>>23538122
Actually, it's had about half an hour since she disappeared and its loyalty and command protocols shifted.
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>>23538131
We are already gonna get shaved and cover ourself in tattoos. We are as good as gone once we barbecue this bird.
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>>23538122
>THIS WILL ALSO END UP WITH US DYING DOWN THE ROAD

OUR GOAL HERE SHOULD BE TO GET OUT OF THIS PREDICAMENT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF DICE ROLLING, BECAUSE TGDICE WILL FUCK US SO HARD IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY
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>>23538122
There's a big problem with trying to negotiate though.

What if they, ya know, lie? And just sorta try kill us anyway?
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>>23538076
She tranqued us, and if I recall correctly her plans after the interrogation were vague at best.

Also, there are multiple people who are against Lunchification (for lack of a better word) and in favor of at least an attempt at diplomacy with Kaoru. For reference, I'm >>23538108

I'm also contemplating a name, for the first time in forever, just so we can start to keep people more or less straight and stop shouting samefag at each other. It's getting confusing.
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>>23538124
>I propose a compromise to both parties. We kill the Tengu, leave Kaoru relatively as she is, keep her bound and secured magically and physically, and then, after we KILL THE FUCKING TENGU, we start getting her to cooperate. We remove the immediate urgency of the situation, and we may very well still acquire negotiation capabilities. Remember, these are Nemesis we're dealing with; they only care about demons insofar as they are useful. They don't put sentimental value on their thralls, only pragmatic value. I doubt they'll care all that much that they lost ONE decent spirit that they valued as expendable enough to send away with an initiate.

THIS IS THE BEST THING ANYONES SAID RECENTLY
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>>23538140
>dead person with a fake person inside
Of course not. They are someone new, allowed to exist and growth via the death of the original persona.
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>>23538122
Everyone dies eventually.

I'd just prefer ignoring you and doing it 20,000 years from now.
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>>23538122
He's had 30 minutes, maybe an hour, since we grabbed her. That's not a DAY OF BATMANESQUE CONTINGENCY PLANS.

We teleport some sun into it, problem solved.
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>>23538124
We're not sure she was Nemesis, and even if she was she's not now.
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>>23538112
BULL SHIT THERE CRUSE CONTROL FOR COOL

>>23538108
not like she gets to leave the tower do you really care what er call her?

>>23538122
its ordered to return her not inform them and is bound forceful its will it wouldn't help them any more than it must probable want's them dead,

>>23538124
we keep her useful but she is Lunch now

>>23538125
Amen blow this bird back to jap hell
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>>23538124
I forgot to add that if any kind of negotiations we take or don't take fall through, we can simply erase her existence by turning her into Lunch.

>>23538175
There's an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence that her, as well as her family, are Nemesis.
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Alright, this is very important to my choice.
Does Kaworu have sex-hair?
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>>23538107
we dont have time to set that up but later it might be good to make time.
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>>23538144
>This is a birdman, not a Batman. A day of prep time doesnt suddenly make it invincible to the sun.

ELABORATE ON YOUR PLAN.

EVERYONE ADVOCATING OVERWHELMING FORCE HASN'T COME UP WITH ANY SORT OF PLAN TO ACTUALLY FIND IT.

IRONICALLY, ALL PROPOSED AVENUES OF ATTACK PLAY TO ITS STRENGTHS IN MAGICAL SCHOOLS.
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>>23538124
Welcome to 100 posts ago where we agreed to leave her head mostly alone save for loyalty measures and kill the tengu. Christ, yall niggas to read instead of shoutin in allcaps and gettin angry at nothing.
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>>23538124
Or we just remove the right parts that might bite us in the ass later, shove in loyalty/love/obedience to us and the inhabitants of the tower, except Breakfast and Selene for now, those just get love.

Then we add the fetishes we feel like and end up with a slutty maid girl who loves us utterly and makes us Foci when we're not fucking her.
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>>23538144
>This is a birdman, not a Batman. A day of prep time doesnt suddenly make it invincible to the sun.

ARE YOU SURE? BECAUSE IT SURE SOUNDS LIKE A GODDAMN BATMAN, EXCEPT WITH A FEW CENTURIES MORE UNDER ITS BIRDBELT.

ANYWAY, IF WE'RE GONNA OVERWHELMING FORCE IT, WE SHOULD TRY TO BIND IT AN FIND OUT JUST HOW FUCKED WE ARE ON CONTINGENCY PLANS
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>>23538141
See, this is the sticking point. This is why people accuse anyone that wants Lunch of being driven purely by fetishistic lust.

There is no need to fuck her. There is no need to turn her into a slut. Doing so may in some ways even be counterproductive, and doing so before we even get a chance to talk to her is jumping the gun.
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>>23538171
By that measure, her original persona has already died between us and her society's combined mental attacks. May as well mold whats left of her in our image instead of literally building ours own nemesis.
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>>23538192
actually, if we have its true name we don't actually need to find it, the name would be inherently magical as a spiritual being and could be used to target the attack.
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>>23538196
I'm actually in the party advocating just snapping her mind like a dry twig and offing the bird, but I'm trying to offer a plan of action that will get me what I want while shutting up the opposition. The trick is that my proposed plan of action will more than likely end up giving me what I want, while giving the opposition nothing.

Oh, dear, did someone say the mindbreakers were sociopaths earlier? Funny, that.
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>>23538185
For cool, yes, but it is not cruise control for logic.
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>>23538185
If you think yelling is the same as emotional intensity you are beyond saving.
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>>23538150
>Actually, it's had about half an hour since she disappeared and its loyalty and command protocols shifted.

EXACTLY. IT HAD A DAY TO PLAN FOR SUCCESS AND FOR FAILURE. EVERYONE PROPOSING NUKE IT IS FAILING TO SEE THAT ITS HAD HALF AN HOUR TO FIND OUT AS MUCH AS IT CAN ABOUT US, MAYBE EVEN TRACE THE TELEPORT BACK TO THE TOWER.
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>>23538207
There's need to fuck her, you know the same reason we fuck Breakfast.

Since we're going to be Draining her, since she's Lunch, she may as well enjoy it and offer it.

And of course, the smut. That's good too.
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"Yeah, you're right," you agree. "It's the safest option - I think - and I'm sure as hell going to pick what puts Selene in the least danger. Let's start grabbing foci. At the moment, I'm planning on leaving her mostly intact - maybe even fixing as much as possible - while adding in some simple overwhelming loyalty. I don't know yet. Anyway, let's all start getting some foci together - I'm liking the idea of either teleporting some sun into it or, even better, teleporting it into the sun."

"Ah, like we almost did with the rock in the new basement," your dad says.

"Exactly," you agree. "Now, let's all collect as many foci as possible. We want to get this done, get this done right, and get this done right the first time. Go!"

And that's where I'm ending this thread for tonight. Everyone feel free to brainstorm on a list of foci for this spell for tomorrow. I'll archive the thread and stick around for a while and answer questions - maybe even tell you guys what title to use for me.
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>>23538227
Tower is warded to fuck, it wont be able to trace it, we have the girl, we have it's name once we dive back in.
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Between the new capslock tripfag and everything else I seriously can't tell who's being sarcastic and who's being serious. I assume that if this thread 404s, then we'll pick it up tomorrow. Speaking of which, has this thread been archived?
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>>23538187
Based on what, her paranoia? Her Society's paranoia? In scholomance, paranoia is the common denominator.
>>23538185
It's not just a name. Turning her into Lunch implies turning her into a submissive slut. It's a level of personality and memory tampering I feel is not yet called for.
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>>23538185
>its ordered to return her not inform them and is bound forceful its will it wouldn't help them any more than it must probable want's them dead,

THE PART YOU ARE FAILING TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT IT ISN'T A DUMB ASS. IT HAS TO RETURN HER ASAP, BUT HAS ITS FULL INTELLIGENCE TO MAKE TACTICAL DECISIONS ON HOW BEST TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK.

YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
RETURNING HER MEANS FINDING HER FIRST
FINDING HER MEANS FINDING US.
FINDING US MEANS GETTING THAT INFO FROM US
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this should have a 1000 tag on it when archived btw.
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The tripfags in this thread are collectively worse than anything I've seen on /a/ or /v/, ever. Jesus.
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>>23538218
>actually, if we have its true name we don't actually need to find it, the name would be inherently magical as a spiritual being and could be used to target the attack.

WE DONT HAVE ITS TRUE NAME. SHOULD HAVE ASKED WHILE WE WERE INSIDE HER HEAD, BUT NO, WE CANT PLAY THING SMART
ALSO ITS TRUE NAME PROBABLY GOT DELETED BY THE MIND VIRUS

>>23538237
>warded to fuck
IS IT WARDED AGAINST MILITARY GRADE EXPLOSIVES?
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>>23538236
We're forgetting one thing.... someone has certainly tried this on it/him before as a centuries old assassin demon. Can we hope to succeed autokill?
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>>23538257
It's warded against it ever finding it.
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>>23538236
We should collect TWO sets of foci. Incase we botch the spell the first time we can immediately try again.
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>>23538207
>There is no need to fuck her
With the exception of Dad, we have literally fucked every of age individual in our tower and even the less than a year old Gaviscon. And we even tried to fuck our own dad and some people plan on fucking Selene when she gets of age.

Im not one of the ones saying to implant in her some sort of slutmaid protocol because I think thats pretty dumb, but you would be a fool to think she is going to stay unfucked if she lives with us. Especially if we instill in her super loyalty.
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>>23538257
That's why we're killing it now. So nothing gets a chance to attack our tower.
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>>23538246
And killing it now means none of that happening.
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>>23538257

The mind virus was from her Society, not her family.
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>>23538260
I mean, it's the best plan we have for killing it, and I guess if it fails theres no risk.
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>>23538255
I've seen much worse.

On /k/. It's why I don't go there anymore, after it became a huge circlejerk like they were on a traditional forum or something.
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>>23538257
>IS IT WARDED AGAINST MILITARY GRADE EXPLOSIVES?
Yes.
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>>23538260
It's used to Military, standard magic stuff, it's probably new to Scholomance.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=blatant+fetish+quest

This thread is now archived. I'll stick around to answer some questions for a while, then I'm going to sleep. I allowed this to continue way too far into the morning.
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>>23538223
Even with cruise control, you still have to steer.

>>23538227
No. It had half an hour since the person it's programed to protect (and I can't stress this next part enough) AT ALL COSTS go hit with a high level mental attack (probably in its presence) and teleported away.

It has, however, had at least one day to plan for an attempted capture to backfire. Which means we can assume that it's near where we first encountered it either cleaning up traps, reinforcing the existing ones, or looking for something, anything that we dropped there.

Nothing fell out of our pockets, right?
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>>23538280
Are we sure this is it's first time escorting someone here? I mean, I'm just exploring possibilities, I'm sure we will still try it.
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>>23538289
Everything in your pockets was accounted for, but you might have left some blood behind from that dart.
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>>23538236
Good call. I don't think we're going to get anywhere tonight anyway.
>>23538240
As the quieter proponent of taking it one step at a time with Kaoru, I'm going to use a name in these threads. I'm tired of people mixing me up with hotter heads than mine.

I already hate myself, but I really do think it'll simplify things.
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>>23538302
This is why you don't remove things sticking out of your flesh.
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>>23538289
If anything did, and Fem uses it against us without some previous IC statement explicitly stating that we're missing something, that would be a gigantic ass-pull of a dick move and I'd consider leaving the quest over that.
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>>23538269
>The mind virus was from her Society, not her family.

IT IS HEAVILY IMPLIED THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME, BEING A 12 GENERATION OLD FAMILY OF DEMON BINDERS

>>23538260
centuries old assassin demon. Can we hope to succeed autokill?

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING. WE CAN'T WINSTAGIB IT IF WE CANT FIND IT. IF ITS A MASTER OF ILLUSION WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GUARANTEED TO LAND OUR FIRST SHOT
AND IF WE MISS IT, THEN WE LOSE ALL HOPE OF NEGOTIATION, WHICH IS A RISKY BUT POSSIBLE CHANCE TO GET OUT OF THIS SITUATION

I JUST DONT THING IT SHOULD BE PLAN A IS ALL
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>>23538302
FUCK.

That's it. The bird shall not live to see the night.
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>>23538284
It's certainly been an exciting day in Blatant Fetish Quest.

Good night Femcock, looking forward to the next threads.
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>>23538317
No, dart turned to ash, we're clear.
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>>23538236
light bulb, superman shield, picture of the sun, a paper space ship, diagram of a worm hole to the sun, the red and blue foci portals, the star trek badge, a paper doll of the tengu, hell a live bird would be nice,
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>>23538278
>>IS IT WARDED AGAINST MILITARY GRADE EXPLOSIVES?
>Yes.

SOURCE AND PAGE NUMBER

>>23538307
>As the quieter proponent of taking it one step at a time with Kaoru, I'm going to use a name in these threads.

THATS THE REASON I STARTED USING MINE.
REALLY FEM SHOULD JUST STOP COUNTING ANONYMOUS VOTES
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>>23538339
>REALLY FEM SHOULD JUST STOP COUNTING ANONYMOUS VOTES
Get out.
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>>23538339
That's a little extreme, but I don't get why 4chan despises names. It's like knowing who someone is is a crime...
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>>23538339
go away please or at least stop caps lock spamming
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>>23538307
>As the quieter proponent of taking it one step at a time with Kaoru
I think most people dont want to utterly mindbreak - or lunchify as you guys seem so keen on dubbing it - Kaoru, I know I just want to install hyperloyalty into her at first and leave it at that for the beginning. Depending on how she reacts to her fate, we may have to remove more of her memories or mind simply for her own sake, but I would like to keep her as intact as possible, both for faggoty whiteknight reasons and for pragmatic reasons.

She will still be incubi food if we need an extra meal, though, theres really no getting around that.
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>REALLY FEM SHOULD JUST STOP COUNTING ANONYMOUS VOTES
I have no words. None at all. If you've been working a troll angle for the last hour to lead up to this punchline, then by god, you win. If you're serious, I hope you get banned.
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>>23538339
I respectfully disagree. While accounting for samefagging sounds good in theory, the vast majority of posters will never go in for mandatory namefagging. There's always been a certain hesitation there.
>>23538266
I would like to point out that this still is not a "need" to fuck her.
>>23538272
Funny thing was there USED to be good namefags there. Drake and his magical deck come to mind. Drake, meplat, and... hell, I think that's it.
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>>23538339
>REALLY FEM SHOULD JUST STOP COUNTING ANONYMOUS VOTES

Oh, so you are a troll. Wasn't totally clear on that, thanks for making it plain.

>>23538284
So Fem, It's Mi'lady right?
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I find it hilarious that there was a huge uptick in participation for the action scene and the fallout of getting ambushed, but the real spike was the paranoia that came afterwards. Oh, before I go, have any of you pretty little sluts finished any new draw/writefaggotry? If so, I would love to see it. I get off to all of it.
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>>23538338
What about a comic about that Marvel superman? You know, the one who throws all his enemies into the sun?
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>>23538354
It's rather simple. You're not the OP of a thread or questline, and your vote counts no more than anyone else's. Your name and tripcode are purely to make yourself separate from the rest, when there is no good reason to.

Basically, you're an attention whore.
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>>23538339
Because its so hard to spam different trips.
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>>23538384
And TSD is a fucking retard who spams emoticons and bad jokes.
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>>23538354
>That's a little extreme, but I don't get why 4chan despises names. It's like knowing who someone is is a crime...

INTERNET SUBCULTURE SYNDROME.
ANYWAY IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON A LOT OF ANON V ANON SUGGESTIONS AND VOCAL SAMEFAGS THROWING OFF VOTES ON WHAT TO DO NEXT
I MEAN ONCE YOU KNOW WHO SNAPPLE IS ITS EASY TO IGNORE HIM, RIGHT?
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>>23538334
Blood on the ground. It's not much, but it's still a trace.

Tenguman is in full fucking death-before-dishonor mode. We need to make this quick, fool proof, and decisive. If our first shot doesn't kill him or, God forbid, misses entirely, we're probably going to lose someone.
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>>23538393
I'm sorry but the only poster allowed to capslock everything is MR.RAGE, please stop.
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>>23538384
>>23538392
Ouch.
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>>23538371
Don't forget IVAN, but yeah, Drake and Meplat were the tits. Dat deck.
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>>23538265
no we need like 5 sets so we can spam it for as many times as we can cast the spell Maybe even Make dad a drain focus for teliport so we can use our alchemy drain to give us more shots.
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>>23538367
See, that's precisely what I've been arguing for. It seems like a lot of people want to paint any argument as one extreme or the other for simplicity's sake: either full Lunch or utterly caving. There ARE some people who want to kill the tengu and then have some Lunch, and I think there's at least one person who's arguing for total diplomacy, but once we stop yelling at each other I think most of us fall somewhere in the middle.
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>>23538371
Drake, meplat, and... hell, I think that's it.

MY INSPIRATION COMES FROM MISTER RAGE
THE LOGIC NINJA IMPOSTOR WAS PRETTY GOOD TOO, THOUGH.

>>23538376
>. Oh, before I go, have any of you pretty little sluts finished any new draw/writefaggotry? If so, I would love to see it. I get off to all of it.

FUCK IT, I'LL WRITE SOME. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE?
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>>23538236
Okay, foci for sunfucking it. It's probably easier to send the sun to it than it to the sun. But the Foci will be pretty similar.

We did a thorough mindsweep on everything she knew about the Tengu, I figure its true name would be included in that if she knew it.

UV lamps, we have several. A drawing of the sun, preferably crayon and made by Breakfast for maximum hilarity. The name Lucifer (Light Bringer) written on a piece of paper in the Word, not magically significant in and of itself, but might be relevant and usable for this purpose. An audio recording of "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" might work. A lightbulb. Something to do with Superman, a drawing of him or his symbol. Maybe a small cutting from a plant in our garden. A star map if we have one. A book on astrophysics if we have one. A lighter. A fan because it's a Tengu.

All the Conjuration focuses used earlier, those being a paper air plane, a drawing of an orange oval and a blue oval with Aperture Science written underneath (Lin's idea), a picture of that weird triangle badge thing from Star Trek (Liz's idea), a condom, and a little lasso made of a shoelace.

>>23538377
Sentry.
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> IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON A LOT OF ANON V ANON SUGGESTIONS AND VOCAL SAMEFAGS THROWING OFF VOTES ON WHAT TO DO NEXT


Gentlemen, we have a new Snapple.
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>>23538393
>I MEAN ONCE YOU KNOW WHO SNAPPLE IS ITS EASY TO IGNORE HIM, RIGHT?
>implying you needed a name to tell who snapple was
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>ANYWAY IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON A LOT OF ANON V ANON SUGGESTIONS AND VOCAL SAMEFAGS THROWING OFF VOTES ON WHAT TO DO NEXT
Not when people adopt multiple trips.
>I MEAN ONCE YOU KNOW WHO SNAPPLE IS ITS EASY TO IGNORE HIM, RIGHT?
Not when he samefags agreement with himself with other names/as anonymous as he has done before.
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>>23538376
That was marvelous. The build up and ensue 600 post shitstorm once we realized we now have a samurai who's lived 1,000 years after us was fantastic. I love this shit.

I don't even care for the smut.
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>>23538412
And most of us arent yelling at each other, people come to a consensus, then some faggot claims the consensus is actually some gross exaggeration of what it really was towards one extreme or the other and then we start all over.
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>>23538302
no we didn't the dart turned to ash blood and all and we fell on our back so no blood on the ground... I hope.
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>>23538371
>I would like to point out that this still is not a "need" to fuck her.
Fair enough, I just wanted to point out that it will happen sooner or later.
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>>23538384
Because using a name will hopefully keep people from going off on me because they think I'm someone I'm not?

I'm not saying my vote counts for more, it's just that if I'm going to try to discuss things with people in a thoughtful and rational manner it helps if they can easily identify who they're talking to. Otherwise it's a mess.
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Fem, can I suggest something that in my mind would greatly reduce the shit spamming arguments between updates and help achieve consensus faster?

when we have major decisions to make like whether or not to negotiate or kill it, put it to a "What Do?" as in:

Blah blah

What Do?

[] Option A
[] Option B
[] Option C

while allowing players to refine on the individual options

or you could ignore all this because you get off on watching us argue in circles and greatly reducing the speed and quality of the threads
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>>23538458
Trust me, we'd still have just as much bickering.

Now people, come up with Foci for sun exploding the bird.
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>>23538414
Oh, I'm happy to see anything.

>>23538439
I wonder if anyone had any idea in the first thread the direction I planned to take it, or if everyone thought it was 100% smut. I like to think that they thought it was just going to be smut and that it proved to be a pleasant surprise, but that's a self-serving and self-aggrandizing hope of mine.
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>>23538451
>I'm not saying my vote counts for more, it's just that if I'm going to try to discuss things with people in a thoughtful and rational manner it helps if they can easily identify who they're talking to. Otherwise it's a mess.
> easily identify who they're talking to.

AGREEMENT.

>>23538417
>>implying you needed a name to tell who snapple was
MY GREAT BIG SECRET IS THAT I AM ACTUALLY ALL OF THE TRIP POSTERS IN THIS THREAD SIMULTANEOUSLY
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>>23538464
>I wonder if anyone had any idea in the first thread the direction I planned to take it
I thought it was satire at first, with a name like Blatant Fetish Quest.
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>>23538371
I would be ok wit needing a name but not a trip. In part do to laziness in part hesitancy to cross that line.
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>>23538451
If you're so worried about your individuality on a board based on anonymity, then you have an issue in priorities. Putting a name upon your posts only promotes people ignoring you outright, rather than mistaking you for another poster. I've already ignored Snapple, TSD, that capslocking faggot, and a couple of other tripfags in this quest because they've already said incredibly dumb things before and, since they have a name, and I can put a name to their stupidity, I can proceed to ignore them outright with prejudice, rather than consider each post individually, like I will with anonymous posters.

All you're doing is flaunting yourself as an individual and asking for others to ignore you.
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>>23538477
It's that too.
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>>23538458
>[] Option A
>[] Option B
>[] Option C
>while allowing players to refine on the individual options

BROTHEL QUEST DID THIS, AND IT WORKED FANTASTICALLY.
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>>23538477
Same. I avoided it and just did a groan/eyeroll whenever I saw it. I actually just started following 3/4 days ago.

I have no intention of catching up on what I missed.
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>>23538501
Fair warning, you might say some things that will get you laughed at. Not accusing you preemptively, just warning you.
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>>23538501
You might want to, there's a lot of context in there.
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>>23538501
It's a lot less than it looks like really, most of the posts aren't fencock
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>>23538442
Admittedly it's just the impression I get that there is a good deal of arguing going on that's far too heated for what it is, but I would agree that saying "most of us are yelling" would be an overstatement. However, there's enough yelling and bickering for it to be a problem, which is kind of a disappointment.
>>23538446
This is true, but when it happens it should ideally be the result of a natural character progression and not because we hard-wired her to.

Or it turns out Kaoru is completely unreasonable and we have to wipe her mind entirely for our own safety and for those around us, at which point sure. Why not have her enjoy getting boned while we're at it?
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>>23538451
>Because using a name will hopefully keep people from going off on me because they think I'm someone I'm not?
And now your name will become an insult. Observe
>Quit being a faggot, that sounds like something vira would suggest
And then no one will listen to anything you have to say ever again
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>>23538501
Please try, a good percentage of the shitposting can be attributed to questions already answered ages ago.
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>>23538487
Ugh, to think I shared Brothel Quest with this faggot.
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>>23538477
>I thought it was satire at first, with a name like Blatant Fetish Quest.

I WASN'T SURE WHAT TO THINK AT FIRST. BUT IT SEEMED LIKE AN INTERESTING RABBIT HOLE BETTER THAN THE OTHER QUESTS, AND YOUR WRITING IS REALLY WHAT MADE ME STAY.

THE AMUSING THING IS, I RECENTLY TOLD MY A FRIEND ABOUT THIS QUEST, EXCEPT I LEFT OUT THE NAME AND PORNY BITS, AND HE THINKS ITS A GRIMDARK HOGWARTS RULED BY MAGICAL GANGS. IT WAS KIND OF AWESOME, HE SAID IT SOUNDED REALLY INTERESTING AND YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK ABOUT IT.
I'M GONNA LINK HIM TO THE ARCHIVES AND SEE HOW FAR MISTER RELIGIOUS GETS BEFORE BEING OFFENDED NEXT TIME I SEE HIM.
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>>23538501
You can ctrl+f femCOCK and not miss much. Most of the discussions in these threads are just massive shitfits.
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>>23538501
>I have no intention of catching up on what I missed.

YOU ACTUALLY SHOULD.
FEMCOCK POSTS RATHER INFREQUENTLY, AND THE ENTIRE THREAD IS BICKERING FOLLOWED BY A CHANGE IN THE BICKERING PACE.

THAT IS, YOU CAN SEARCH FOR FEMS POSTS AND BREEZE RIGHT THROUGH THE THREADS.
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>>23538375
It is milady. There's more to it than that, but I don't really want to risk grossing anyone out. Suffice it to say, I'm not a male-identifying-as-female or a transexual or some silly cunt who uses terms like 'cis.' I'm female - mostly.
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>>23538484
And have I done anything in the brief time I've had a name to earn your ire, other than the act of taking a name itself?

I have been mistaken multiple times for cruisecontrolguy and possibly some other still-anonymous posters over the course of this thread, and I find it annoying to have to tell people repeatedly that I'm not the person they think I am. So I took a measure I felt would remove that problem in the future.

If that is enough to offend you into ignoring me, then so be it, but I hope you would at least give me the chance to show you that I'm not, in your words, "incredibly dumb".
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>>23538565
Tomboy. Tomboy. Please be tomboy.
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>>23538521
>Admittedly it's just the impression I get that there is a good deal of arguing going on that's far too heated for what it is, but I would agree that saying "most of us are yelling" would be an overstatement. However, there's enough yelling and bickering for it to be a problem, which is kind of a disappointment.

IF ANYTHING, I WISH THE TEXT FIELD WAS LONGER.
I FEEL THAT ONE OF THE CONTRIBUTING REASONS TO ARGUING IN CIRCLES IS THE TEXT FIELD LIMITS, AND PEOPLE BEING UNABLE TO FULLY ARTICULATE THEIR POINTS.

AND THEN PEOPLE IGNORING WORDY POSTS BECAUSE, ESSENTIALLY, TLDR EVEN IF THEY HAVE GOOD INFO.
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>>23532345
How pleased are you that so many people are getting so worked up about something you made? It takes talent to make so many people care that much.
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well we could use a bullet as a focus because this is an attack,a flame, anything with a plasma screen, a diagram of solar fusion, We can use a teal and dark blue circle to represent Atlas' portals and a red and yellow set for P-Body's portals as well as the ornge and blue for chell. we can use the stargate symbol for earth to tap into that cultural touchstone, we can use a telescope or binoculars or gun scope to represent bringing the far near, A slingshot can represent throwing the sun at him.
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>>23538575
I'm telling you the end result of other's posting, not of yours specifically. I'll listen until you've shown enough evidence that I don't need to consider your opinion on the matter. If you would post anonymously, this would never be a problem, you'd never have a chance of earning a reputation, and people would consider your opinions all the time with the same level of fairness as all the rest of the anonymous posters. Putting on a name is only asking for others to judge you, both on your posts and on site-wide stigma.
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>>23538565
>but I don't really want to risk grossing anyone out.

MILADY, AFTER THE SUBJECT MATERIAL SOME OF YOUR SMUT HAS DELVED INTO, I DONT THINK THATS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
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>>23538581
Moderately. I was able to gauge the reaction in advance pretty well.
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>>23538565
... you do a quest about a dickgirl in dark hogwarts who has sexual tension with her father, fucks her day away, is going to fuck her plant daughter, and is well on her way to two mind broken sluts.

I really don't think you are going to disturb or gross out your audience.

You don't have to tell us, but don't let that hold you back, milady.
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>>23538606
Maybe, maybe she's shy!
*Squee*
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>>23538575
>And have I done anything in the brief time I've had a name to earn your ire, other than the act of taking a name itself?

NOT THAT I AGREE WITH IT, BUT TAKING A NAME IS LIKE CASTING OFF THE SACRED CLOAK OF ANONYMOUS. A BETRAYAL OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER.

WITH THAT ATTITUDE, I GET THE FEELING YOU'RE MORE USED TO FORUM-BASED FORMS OF DISCOURSE.
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>>23538565
She absorbed her fraternal twin brother in the womb and somehow acquired his dick.

Calling it now.
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>>23538599
As long as it doesn't matter if I spam posts, thank you for sticking to this quest and doing such a damn fine job. It's the best I've read since Sir Daniel the dancing knight.
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>>23538528
you did not good sir, never been in any of that quests threads, this just seemed logical to me
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>>23538614
FemCOCK confirmed for waifu material
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>>23538629
If that happened, we'd have geneticists kicking down her door.
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>>23538629
>She absorbed her fraternal twin brother in the womb and somehow acquired his dick.

SO THATS WHY FEMCOCK IS SUCH A GREAT WRITERS! [SPOILER]SHE HAS GREAT DICTION[/SPOILER]
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>>23538640

OF ALL THE THINGS TO BE CASE SENSITIVE.
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>>23538639
Excluding the dick bit, twins get absorbed in the womb from time to time and sometimes youll find leftovers of them attached to their surviving siblings, like stomach tumors that when the doctors cut open are filled with teeth and bone fragment or one guy who was born with a whole damn face on the back of his head.

He claimed it whispered to him when he slept.
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>>23538565
Well, now I'm just going to feel uncomfortable, because I don't like femdom. Probably because I'm a male and a sadist, so seeing a male get humiliated bothers me on many levels.

Well, correction, I like woman-on-woman femdom. That's pretty damn great. It's the female-on-male that irks me in specific.
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>>23538638
If she don't make you the wife.
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>>23538651
There was a girl at my school who had her twin removed from one of her ovaries in highschool. She never knew it was there until she was in crippling pain sometime in tenth grade from it and had to go to the hospital. Pretty cool.
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>>23538657
You have no idea how okay with that I would be.
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>>23538578
>>23538598
>>23538606
Oh, fine. I guess I am a bit shy. I'll spoiler it at least, just in case you guys aren't interested in the details after the big reveal.

I'm intersex.

I'm an XX female, but because of hormonal issues, I have certain unusual virilization traits. I have very small breasts and an oversized clitoris. I'm told I'm actually very lucky - most intersex people have vaginas too shallow and tight to have sex without pain and/or micropenises/macroclitori too small to have sex. I can have penetrative sex and my penis/clitoris is about the size of the average man's. When I'm clothed, I just look like a tomboy.

And that's why I use gender-neutral terms online. And also why I can't have kids - which honestly I prefer. I'm a fantastic aunt, but probably not much of a mother.
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>>23538687
And I suppose that's why our protagonist is a dickgirl?
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>>23538687
Huh, I can honestly say that isn't something I would have guessed.

It's really interesting and pretty cool though.
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>>23538687
I find that more incredibly hard to believe than disgusting. And most people here will just tell you that its hot.
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>>23538687
>>23538687
And suddenly everything makes sense. I find it hard to believe, but that's with anything out of the ordinary on this site, so it's nothing against you if you're telling the truth.
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>>23538597
Admittedly I'm aware that namefags always garner a reputation, and that it's rarely a good thing. However, I have no intention of using the name OUTSIDE these threads, when they come up, nor do I intend to continue using it if I do somehow end up with a bad reputation. Certainly, I'd prefer not to say anything that would put me in such a position.

Look at it from my view: I like to converse and discuss things with other individuals. If I'm doing that, chances are the poster I'm talking to realizes I'm one guy anyway, so I might as well take a name. It cuts down on accusations of samefagging (ideally) and makes it easier to talk to a single person when there are as many people posting as there are in these threads. It also makes me less likely to go el-flippo on someone because it's immediately obvious. Social circumscription, in other words.

So I'm trying it out.
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>>23538687
Well, that certainly explains the trip.
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>>23538719
>I have no intention of using the name OUTSIDE these threads
And we still have to put up with you and all your ilk INSIDE these threads.
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>>23538687
I didn't know that was a thing, ok, cool.
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>>23538687

WOW. I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT GOING THROUGH THE SPOILER TEXT, BUT...... THATS ACTUALLY KIND OF HOT.

SO, LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE WRITING BLOWJOB SCENES, THATS ACUALLY SOMEWHAT DRAWN FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ISN'T IT?

I THINK MOST GIRLS I KNOW WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CLIT THEY CAN PUT DOWN A CUTE BOYS THROAT.
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>>23538712
It's really not that hot. Most people with my condition have, well... Look up 'intersex genitalia' on google images. Even I don't have something like out of a hentai - a normal dick on a normal pussy. I'm just capable of penetrative sex from both sides. Most of the internal bits are either not there or not intact.
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>>23538687
That's... kinda hot, kinda interesting, and kinda sad all at once.

I don't know what to think if this is one of the rare times the internet isn't lying to me.
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>>23538736

MAN.

AMONG THE PEOPLE I KNOW, THERES AT LEAST ONE TRANS. I DONT WANT TO START A GIANT DEBATE ABOUT IT, BUT THE HORMONE COCKTAILS THEY TAKE MAKE IT SO THEY CAN'T GET OFF. IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.
SO THEY'RE CONSTANTLY IN A LOOP OF WANTING A RELATIONSHIP, BEING INTENSELY AFRAID SOMEONE WILL REJECT THEM, AND THEN BEING UNABLE E FULFILLED ONCE THEY'RE IN ONE.

ITS REALLY KIND OF SAD.

SO, HOW DID YOU MEET YOUR KITTEN, ANYWAY?
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>>23538736
>Look up 'intersex genitalia' on google images.
Oh I know, which is why its a bit hard for me to believe you won the intersex genetic lottery, considering how intersexed genitalia usually turns out. Well maybe not lottery, but certainly some sort of consolation prize, all things considered. But hey, I guess with things being what they are, sometimes things line up like that.

Either way, the writing is good and the quest is fun, so you could tell me that you were some sort lizard person from space fighting the sun to free us from its psychic domination and I wouldn't care. Hope you're having fun with all this, too.
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>>23538748
Eh, like I said, I mostly just look like a tomboy, and I'm lucky enough to be actually capable of normal sex. It could have been tragic, but it's more just weird and kinda gross. The biggest problem for me on a day to day basis is that I have to make an effort to keep thin or I'll end up with the androgynous figure of an overweight post-menopausal woman.
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>>23538687
your your serious that is very cool and you are lucky I have looked into this stuff and that condition is rare but i have herd of it. As to it being improbable yes it is in general but given the subtle social clues it makes sens. Defiantly more sense than that your male and about as muck as being a dominant female who chooses to fuck with us if not more. So i believe you.
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>>23538779
Yeah, I don't know if I would call it a win. Still, it could be much worse. Hell, I know people that have had it much worse. I'm just glad my parents didn't do what the doctors were recommending when I was born, which was removing the 'genital growth.' Like I said before, the biggest issue for me, these days, is keeping slim. There were some issues back in the day with dating, but not so much anymore. My pet's been wonderful.

Anyway, like I said, I identify as female, am XX, and all things considered am mostly female.
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>>23538781
that would suck at least if your not fat you can still look good.
>>23538783
also when i say cool and lucky i mean that you can have normal sex at all.
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>>23538814
Oh god,
>"let's just chop it off"
>"k"
>Never have a proper clitoral orgasm
>Happens all the time
>Sad
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>>23538821
Yeah, it was - and still is, for the most part - the standard way of dealing with that 'problem.' I really can't over-emphasize how pleased I am that my mother adamantly refused. I rate the whole experience of my sex 6/10, could be much worse. Like I said, though, it's not something to brag about, and it is something I find embarrassing.
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>>23538841
awww, Milady is shy
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>>23538841
Actually these days it's generally frowned upon to mess with the bits until the individual can decide for themself, although this is a very recent and still developing occurrence.

At least thats what I've been told at least 9 times over the last 3 years or so, never have met anyone who had to deal with it recently.
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>>23538814
I just realize the biggest thing that makes me believe your story is the way you describe max as an XX female with a dick.
It is very improbable you would do that if you didn't consider that an important or even critical point of definition yourself. But most people dont, and your story lines up with that way of thinking elegantly. Further there is no way I believe you set this up as an elaborate troll to fool us all the way back in thread one. So i am convinced this is true.
Wow I believe something told to me on 4chan that i cant verify at all. I dont know if I should laugh or cry.
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>>23538864
In college, Psych and Bio major.
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>>23538841
You've given us a powerful weapon, FemCOCK. You've given us the ability to tease your shy side. A terrible mistake.
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>>23538724
Well, sorry to impose, but I'd thank you to remember that I'm trying my best to break the supposed pattern of annoying namefags.
>>23538781
I mean, don't get me wrong. It's just that it's a lot to think about, and I'm sure it was a lot for you to sort out as well.

It takes a lot of guts to talk about something like that to complete strangers. I guess rather than talk the point to death and risk saying something to offend, I'll just say I can respect that and call it a day.
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Its pretty easy to create a persona and femcock obviously plans ahead. Not saying I do or don't believe her, I'm just saying, its not hard to believe that this is all just a con to add another layer to things.
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>>23538887
>but I'd thank you to remember that I'm trying my best to break the supposed pattern of annoying namefags.
As does every namefag. And by acting with that superiority complex there, you're just like the rest.
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>>23538879
A true gentleman wouldn't consider it.

If there were any other way to tease her, then sure as hell we'd use it, and I'd be first in line. But there's a reason she hasn't shared this before, and I say that even though she has we would do well to respect certain boundaries.
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>>23538879
Well Milady can use it as a growing experience if some of us are that disrespectful and rude to someone giving us such fine entertainment. Unless of course Milady secretly likes it then it will likely just stoke the fires.
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>>23538870
Laugh. It's just raining.

>>23538879
I just failed to think of a good rebuke because I was blushing. Yeah, this is pretty much the only thing I'm shy about. It was probably a mistake giving you guys ammunition.

>>23538887
It's honestly easier to talk about it to strangers. Also, literally the only time I use a name or trip is when it's essential, like as a QM. Maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm mostly just hoping this won't become a point of conversation in the body of the actual quest itself. I don't want to distract with this, bog down the quest, or seem like some kind of attention whore; you guys just seemed really curious the past few days about whether I was male or female - even scouring the fucking archives.
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>>23538814
So... Max is your self-insert?
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>>23538841
Yea, I'm surprised you're so forthcoming tonight. I completely expected you to (cock)tease the whole gender thing forever. Sleep well thread lord.
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>>23538870
>i cant verify at all
I picture with a timestamp would verify it right quick.
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>>23538969
Cant really be a self insert if her every action is decided by the players.
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>>23538977
Thats a bit too sensitive a thing to request a timestamp.

Even on 4chan
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>>23538903
but to wait this long most quests never make i anywhere near this long on the other hand you did just hit my paranoia button.
Whatever i prefer to believe this way and it really doesn't matter so who cares.
I wish i could tell if i new FemCOCK form the /d/ bsdm threads but i haven't been there in a while so that's hard.
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>>23538979
But how much really is, I wonder?
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>>23538961
Damn am I tempted to say that we won't use if if you're a good girl.

But in truth it'd be pretty dickish of us to do that after you run this for us everyday for hours on end.

I won't bring it up, it's not part of the quest, and we honestly have enough to bicker about.

And the reason I scoured the archives wasn't for an answer, but for the search, I'm a curious person and I like looking for little hints and clues like this, the answer isn't the important part.
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>>23538922
Oh, please, I was just kidding. I'm only acting in turn to the general sadist/dom attitude of everyone in this thread. I'm not an asshole.
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>>23538992
Pretty much fucking everything, been here since thread 1.
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>>23539002
And you honestly believe a quest runner has no influence over what the body of voters decide?
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>>23539002
Oh wait, no I fucking havent, sorry thread 7.
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>>23538969
I guess? I mean, you guys picked Max's build and personality, and I never had some big reveal about my sex. I'm a skinny intellectual tomboy, not a buff musclefuta. I was pretty pleased when you gave her martial arts skills, though. I took a lot of martial arts classes in college.

>>23538977
I really don't want to attention whore, let alone camwhore. I run this quest because it's fun and the Scholomance setting deserves more attention. I would have probably preferred just not to mention it - it worked fine for the first fifty or so threads. I guess some archive-reader noticed my wording, though?
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>1230 posts
Shit, this is one hell of a thread.
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>>23539009
Of course she does, but to a point everything that has occurred that was sexual in nature was mostly the choice of the players, at least in my perspective, the only time I remember there being an obvious set of choices was on the plane.
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>>23539021
Yeah, it turned out pretty much exactly as I expected. I'm really pleased with the paranoia and I'm glad you guys realize there are no entirely-right answers, just answers that are mostly-not-wrong.
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>>23538973
Me too but
>>23538961
Again me to at most i hope it only comes up after the game is done for the night and we just BS around. Or in no more passing then we already have felt.
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>>23539015
>the Scholomance setting deserves more attention
You haven't been entirely true to it though - you've ramped the power level way up.
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>>23539026
i think you are forgetting the stewardess and that the old guy might have been a teacher.

>>23539027
also what could have been up with those two?
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>>23539015
Well, >>23538879 here, I wouldn't dare bring it up during the quest. It's not a big deal at all on this site of all places, and nobody really has a reason to mention it with respect to the quest. In case anyone misunderstood my intention with that post, I was teasing. I guess I should be saying some kind of safeword or something when I say stuff like that.
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>>23539015
So you have the perfect intersex genitalia and you won't even show us? That seems a bit selfish.
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>>23539028
Same here. I feel like just the amount that I already talk about myself during the game is too much - mentioning when I'm distracted or why I'm out or whatever.

>>23539033
We were always pretty vague about the magnitude of effects in Scholomance, which is why the casting section on 1d4chan and the archives is so sparse. It mostly just left it up to GM interpretation. I think the place where I'm least-true to it, though, is my inclusion of versions of real-world mythologies and the inclusion of what basically amounts to magical fraternities. That and, of course, the way casting actually works is completely different. I would have used the normal method of 'fuck you, I'm not telling you the target number, just try to guess how much you need to mitigate,' but I knew that would be impossible to actually handle in a quest thread, which disappoints me enormously.
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>>23539033
some liberties are to be expected with anything.
Besides the game i fun this way
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>>23539065
>my inclusion of versions of real-world mythologies
That's basically expected though, even if it's hardly a focus of Scholomance in general.

>and the inclusion of what basically amounts to magical fraternities.
Those are so excellent I seem to have forgotten they weren't part of the setting to start with.
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>>23539063
I think perfect would be 'normal looking penis replacing the clitoris of otherwise-functional vagina.' I'm functional, not 'perfect.' And seriously, I don't want to camwhore. That's much, much lower than I'm willing to stoop. I'm already uncomfortable with how much this feels like attention whoring. I would rather discuss where I went right and wrong with my implementation of Scholomance, like here:
>>23539065
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>>23539063
Stop that.
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>>23538961
We get it in our heads that we want something and we MUST have it. Hopefully you're right though, now that we know it may become a nonissue.

Like you said, sometimes it's easier to talk to strangers, so if you ever feel like it, etc. My proverbial door is always open.
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I kind of want to run the setting as a table top now, maybe I'll run it by my friends this weekend.
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>>23539000
Yeah, I know. Thus the "A TRUE GENTLEMAN" part. It sounds better if you imagine me scoffing at you with my nose in the air, since I usually play that as a visual thing too.
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>>23539080
I feel like they were a bit lazy on my part. Seems a bit 'planet of the hats' to me. Wuxia Frat, Abrahamic Extremist Frat, Teleporter Frat, etc. I decided to call them 'prestige societies' to make it more sense for them to have themes, and also so I could have a pun with the 'prestige classes' that they run.
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>>23539093
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Scholomance

You should use the actual system designed for the setting. It works a lot better than this shitty dice pool system I spent a minute thinking about once. Seriously, I know this system is so, so shitty. There's so much I would fix if it wouldn't bog down running the quest.
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>>23539101
I actually have a character idea in my head related to how the whole "murdefest" mindset of the school came to be. The character is related to ol' Irish DD gal.

I'm really tempted to write out a blurb scene introducing the character to Max.
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>>23539027
>We were always pretty vague about the magnitude of effects in Scholomance, which is why the casting section on 1d4chan and the archives is so sparse. It mostly just left it up to GM interpretation. I think the place where I'm least-true to it, though, is my inclusion of versions of real-world mythologies and the inclusion of what basically amounts to magical fraternities. That and, of course, the way casting actually works is completely different. I would have used the normal method of 'fuck you, I'm not telling you the target number, just try to guess how much you need to mitigate,' but I knew that would be impossible to actually handle in a quest thread, which disappoints me enormously.

Hey, Fem, thanks for sharing. Even after 50 threads, which is plenty of time to establish a rapport with some players, that was awfully brave of you to admit.

I don't think your interjections of real life status are too much at all. If anything, titillating tidbits serve to drive the Blatant Fetish point home, and having a gm that keeps in touch and lets you know when things are going to be slow.
For what its worth, I think you did it just enough to egg people on without stealing the show.


I'm just more disappointed more people haven't realized their actions have consequences, yet. Even from the beginning you were setting people up to realize that boning everything in sight leads to your junk getting stolen. So far, the dice have been able to save us, which is kind of regrettably because it hasn't drove the lesson home.
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>>23539081
If you have a thread that reaches quadruple the bump limit, you're entitled to a bit of attention. And even if you don't think it's pretty, that doesn't mean we won't appreciate it.

>>23539081
>I would rather discuss where I went right and wrong with my implementation of Scholomance
I do feel that the focus on myth is a bit heavy compared to the core setting. But, since the main character is an incubus I reckon it's fine. I don't know if the power level as a whole is too high, but the power level for first years is too high, and so's the rate of advancement - as things currently are it would be easy to have five dots in everything by the end of second year, if not sooner.

>>23539082
No.
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>>23539101
They serve their purposes fine. One group having a monopoly on modification of self seems a bit strange, you should explain some history on that. But a sanctioned society which feeds into the Malleus Maleficarum makes perfect sense. Nemesis seems a bit odd, and the "teleporter frat" would be better envisioned as a union of shipping magnates or something like that. But the basic concept is solid.
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>>23539118
This system works pretty good for questing, though.
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>>23539138
Stop asking FemCOCK to camwhore, it's rude.

>>23539118
Since we're doing the dicepool thing you could probably stick it onto d10s, have 8,9,10 be successes with 10s either being 2 successes or an exploding dice, your pick.

You could keep 1s as the -1 success or have it if we have too many 1s and no successes we get a crit fail.

Pretty much crib half the dice pool system from the large number of games that use them.

Either keep it at just Stat+Foci/Misc dice for a thing, I'm not sure if it'd work to do Stat+MagicStat+Foci for something, unless you really bumped up the number of successes for things.
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>>23539138
>as things currently are it would be easy to have five dots in everything by the end of second year, if not sooner.

I've brought this up before, but I don't think its too bad. Most of your bonuses come from your additional things off to the side on your character sheet.

What I'd really like to see is a Skill keyword that lets someone swing a near-failure into a hit if its close enough.
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>>23539170
>Stop asking FemCOCK to camwhore, it's rude.
Incredibly so.
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Also, apparently the Scholomance is a place in WoW?

>>23539120
Go ahead. I'm not lying about reading and getting off to everything.

>>23539129
I'm a little disappointed that you guys had the presence of mind to inform everyone that you were under fire. If you hadn't, you would have been captured alive. Then you would have gotten to experience some first-person mind fuckery and, if you guys got really lucky, eventually escaped.

Of course, if your dice hadn't shat the bed, you could have won the fight then and there, especially if that alchemy trick had worked so that you could engage the attackers separately.

>>23539138
Yeah, one of my big regrets was letting you guys study so high so early. I've tried to curtail that somewhat by having little advance aside from during important events and progress during skips, but that's definitely a regret and disappointment of mine. I've tried to balance that slightly against permanent foci and other preparations mattering more than your explicit mastery of a given school, but I still wish it hadn't needed to be something needing balancing or curtailing in the first place. Honestly, I expected interest to die before thread 10.

>>23539167
Yeah, that's really all I had in mind when making it. Something with more than just 'spam all the d100s' that would still function in a quest setting. I figured dice pools that expand player participation with higher skill would be the way to go.
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>>23539138
It's not a matter of appreciation, it's that pestering anyone at all to expose themselves to the world is beyond rude. Stop.
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>>23539170
d100 is working fine, and it's prettier to have the double digits even if it's statistically equivalent.

>Pretty much crib half the dice pool system from the large number of games that use them.
>implying it's not a shitty system when they do it too
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>>23539192
The advancement from single studying sessions was overly much. Honestly, keep major stat gains and a lot of foci crafting to timeskips, it leaves our main sessions as doing productive stuff that isn't just Study X, Make Y, and instead can be Plot A, Fuck B, Kill C, Set D on Fire.
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>>23539208
>Set D on Fire.
why would you do that
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>>23539192
>Yeah, one of my big regrets was letting you guys study so high so early. I've tried to curtail that somewhat by having little advance aside from during important events and progress during skips, but that's definitely a regret and disappointment of mine. I've tried to balance that slightly against permanent foci and other preparations mattering more than your explicit mastery of a given school, but I still wish it hadn't needed to be something needing balancing or curtailing in the first place. Honestly, I expected interest to die before thread 10.

Frankly, I think you should embrace the fast-study change.

I miss the PACING of the threads then. Its was a little more personal and it seemed like stuff got done.

Saving the statgrind for weekends, holdiday breaks, or letting one-day studies happen but ramping up the number of successes to make it make a difference seems like a fair tradeoff.
I also honestly dont see a problem having good stats - with the way tgdice roll, its not that big a deal.... but also because most of your special magical power SHOULD come from specialist training/traits. There's only so far raw talent can take you.
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>>23539224
We've already made an animate rubber D. A flaming one would only heighten the sensation.
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>>23539224
I dunno. Dane said he could produce fire from his hands, having a firey dick might make for a good holdout weapon.

This is a joke, this is not a serious suggestion, do not take it as such.
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>>23539232
>I miss the PACING of the threads then. Its was a little more personal
I agree with this.
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>>23539192
As far as the rapid advancement, I feel like you could gain a lot by obviating the five-box limit. Honestly, character sheets could use a facelift anyways.
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>>23539242
yea, it seems like a long time ago when we actually got shit done in a thread, now we just watch stuff turn to ash
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>>23539170
I would definitely rework how pools are canceled if I ever run another quest using some version of this system. There's no question about that. There are plenty of things that could improve this shitty dice pool system that I could take from other shitty dice pool systems. What I really miss is Metahuman Renaissance Quest - Omega actually used the real Wild Talents system, with character sheet and everything. I would have done something like that, but I felt like players would enjoy participating in the rolling experience more than having a robust system.

>>23539173
I've been considering having some kind of luck focus/augmentation/spirit that lets you modify your success range, or crit range, or whatever, but I feel like you guys would go too far with it - I know I would - and I'm worried it would bog down the game even more than it already tends to be.

>>23539208
Yeah, that's what I was hoping for as well with my adjustment. You guys hardly make any progress at all on skills and such during actual play except when doing truly exception training.

>>23539232
The problem is once you max them out - and still have six years to go. That's one reason why I showed that Samyaza had five squares in something by fifth circle, and why I slow down progress the higher something is. If I can get your pace to a point such that your magical spread resembles Samyaza's by the fifth circle, great. If not, I'll pretend the difference was building a tower and his foci.
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A quick return to the previous discussion of defensive gear, it seems to me something like a ninja suit would be the best to work on, since it covers everything but the eyes. Also, making it invisible could help prevent other problems from chance encounters in the future.
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>>23539232

While we're being honest, the other issue i have is the.... lack of endurance wizards seem to have.
Like.
Its setup for very backstabby wizard politics, with great big murthering duels that wreck the landscape.
But.... being able to only blow 5 spells at the peak of your power before you've got to change schools seems a bit anemic.

I mean, sure, you can bind elementals for power and use foci, and other ways to gain more power, but at the end of the day there's not really any way to fast- recharge under pressure in an adrenaline-fueled torrent of magic that leaves your body raw, or draw energy from the environment, or even recapture ambient magic from all the spellslinging in the area.

It just seems like there's not really a lot of room for cantrippey/minor things when there should be, since its a fairly high magic environment.

I'm not saying these things dont exist(and are probably the province of higher circle students), but at the moment it just seems kind of wierd on a power-scale.
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>>23539256
>I've been considering having some kind of luck focus/augmentation/spirit that lets you modify your success range, or crit range, or whatever, but I feel like you guys would go too far with it - I know I would - and I'm worried it would bog down the game even more than it already tends to be.
you can just make a component rare enough that it can't be exploited
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>>23539256
You can rework stuff now, you know, and retcon mechanics as needed. A robust system is good but participating in rolling is also part of the fun.
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>>23539269
>But.... being able to only blow 5 spells at the peak of your power before you've got to change schools seems a bit anemic.
This is just an issue of scale again. Getting tired as quickly as we have been is totally appropriate for first years. I really just think higher years should get more dots of each stat.
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>>23539262
Unless the item is going to be a focus for an effect or you're going to bind an elemental or something to make the effect enduring, you should focus on things that have scientific merit when it comes to magical fabrication. Making a ninja suit protect like armor all the time would require an elemental to power the effect, you to temporarily produce the effect with spellcasting, or for it to be made of a material that actually serves as armor.

>>23539269
You guys will be running into people with drain-mitigating foci as you get further in the first circle, and especially once you get into higher circles. It's not hyperbole to talk about how important permanent foci of both kind are in a wizard's arsenal and how functionally-naked your father is since Petrov took his and he hasn't had time to make new ones. I'm really trying to build up the idea that preparation wins fights, and the lack of fast, emergency recharges helps that, I think. I would be interested in hearing if you agree, though.
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>>23539248
Tying the limit to years completed might make sense too, giving another five boxes for each year or something like that, although it would deviate further from the core setting.

How far into the year are we at this point, anyway? I've lost track.
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>>23539294
I, for one, get how important foci are. I think the average anon forgets or glazes over it, though.

(I keep meaning to push for a modular choker full of focus medallions, but forgetting until I'm on my phone)
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>>23539256
>I would definitely rework how pools are canceled

there's no reason you can't change midquest. If you feel something works better,
dont be afraid to alter it. Quests and games are a work in progress, and having fun should trump bad rules: if its getting in the way, noticably, might be a sign to tweak things in small ways. Even something simple like changing the success rate to 66(1/3), and crits to 1-2 and 99-11 could make things more interesting

>>23539208
>it leaves our main sessions as doing productive stuff that isn't just Study X, Make Y, and instead can be Plot A, Fuck B, Kill C, Set D on Fire.
I'd second this. it would be nice to set weekly/shortterm/sideline goals for things on our calendar/to-do list - maybe one from each category - and de-emphasize it a little, let it happen in the background, and focus in the interesting things that happen during the week during class and training and stuff.
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>>23539294
>I'm really trying to build up the idea that preparation wins fights
I really don't think you need to do more to build this up than you're already doing though.
This is pretty solidly ingrained in everything by this point.
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>>23539311
well we are trying to deck max out is tons of permanent foci tattoos, seeing as each letter of each tattoo can be made into a permanent focus
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Just a heads up, there's only two threads between us and 404.
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>>23539298
Unless I'm mistaken, you're about a month and a half in. We've had two one-week time skips and one one-month time skip, right?

>>23539314
That's the reason why I don't really want an emergency recharge. Max may be the protagonist, but I don't want to give her plot armor or whatever. I want to emphasize that even the skilled need preparation and planning. I feel like giving the ability to recharge quickly - rather than just have strain-mitigating foci - would reduce, or at least cheapen, that.

>>23539330
That's fine, let's ride this bitch into oblivion.

Almost 1300 posts. What a slutty thread. How lewd.



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