>>23466054
let her sleep see if dad or lin is hungry

ask dad about spending a week in your head that would be great to learn our new language

>>23466087
As far as you know, Lin isn't back yet.

>>23466054
Leave Liz's meal by the bed in case she wakes up, go talk to dad about sleep lessons and accelerated thought learning (mental equivalent of Liz's physical subjective week)

>>23466124
Liz's subjective mental week was purely mental. The physical strain was a result of the concentrated stress she was put under by the experience. She didn't gain any physical experience, nor any magical experience save in Enchantment.

>>23466124
this
>>23466151
but there was like a week worth of time couldn't we use that to learn? or would it just feel like a week?

>>23466151
Apologies, I thought (probably incorrectly) that she'd had a bump in her body stat as a result of society training and drew conclusions from that.

We haven't had a good workout yet (outside of the assbeating) today, right?

We should go spend a good hour or two in our gym.

You leave Liz's food on the night stand in case she wants it later, put the cold pack on her head, and give her a kiss on the cheek before making sure she's properly tucked in. Once she's pretty sorted, you head back down to your dad. "Hey, dad, I just talked to Liz and something she said piqued my interested," you say seriously.

"Namely?" he asks.

"She said she just spend a subjective week trapped in her mind trying to escape. She said she learned a lot from it. I was wondering if you could do something like that - maybe teaching me while I sleep or something," you ask.

"First of all, that's a really dangerous thing to do to someone," he says, looking a little angry. "You trap a person in their mind like that and they can have a heart attack or stroke from stress if they get pushed too far. Second of all, you can't rest while active in your mind like that - that's one reason why the buildup of stress is so big of a deal. That means if I tutored you in your sleep, you wouldn't get any rest from it. You would wake up tired, like when you wake up from a nightmare."

"So... Bad idea, then?" you ask.

"Yes, probably. If you're looking for additional tutoring, you could always slim down on your sleep requirement even more, I guess."

What do you do now?

>>23466254
Actually, since we plan on augmenting our strength soon we should probably make Liz a durability charm to reduce the chances of our accidentally hurting her in a serious-not-fun-and-games way

>>23466283
let him work on the wards lets get back to RnD see if we can get something to work right on the spell

>>23466289
I am sure she can do that all by her self

>>23466283
lets jump back on spell research if we make a break through we can show dad and get help for the next step

>>23466283
One more hour of awake time won't help much.

Ask dad about engineered sleepwalking. It's not very important, but Liz asked for food then went to sleep... purely theoritically speaking, how hard would it be to enchant her into eating without waking up ?

>>23466283
So it seems that mental partitioning is the (relatively?) safer option, though we should probably augment to reduce mental strain and boost our sanity before trying it. For now let's try reducing the number of senses we can skim with the spell we're modifying for Selene.

>>23466283
what's the time?

>Capcha:increase enchentr
looks like the capcha wants us to study, and I agree

>>23466367
Early evening.

>>23466382
but is it enough to attempt a permanent strength boost

>>23466398
Each roll is three hours and you need to accumulate four successes for that. You tell me.

>>23466283
Ask him about our Foci design for teleportation blocking. Specifically about the idea of using a combination of strain reduction foci along with more conventional varieties to reduce the problems of that method. Also ask him about the blood bond enchantment thing.

>>23466416
>Each roll is three hours and you need to accumulate four successes for that. You tell me.
speaking of that if maxs get 2 successes but has to stop for say 2 hours does she start again at 0 or do the successes carry over

>>23466416
I recognize this is stupid, but we augment to have improved meditation - add one die for meditation rolls and nothing else?

>>23466440
FemCOCK has previously said they do not. All the successes have to be in one string.

>>23466440
They do not carry

>>23466459
>>23466463
must have missed that

>>23466449
That actually isn't that stupid. It's a tweak that boosts our concentration in that state. Though reducing time needed to meditate would be a better effect.

>>23466283
Ask him about permanent foci. We'd like to create some new ones.
Can we create a focus that helps with every spell of one given school of magic ?
We made focus-crafting foci at school... can we use the three of them together, regardless of whether the foci we used to create them were the same or different ?

>>23466449
Let's make some drain focuses for enchantment.

>>23466511
>Can we create a focus that helps with every spell of one given school of magic ?
No. You can't. Also, you already did use all three of those foci together when making Liz's dildo.

>>23466520
Foci are specialized, not broad enough to cover entire schools of magic. You could make a drain-mitigation focus for, say, mental attacks, or illusions, or perception, or what have you, but not Enchantment.

>>23466492
I agree, but given the mental strain dad just told of results from accelerated thought I think that's going to be a longer term project (first harden our mind to take the strain, then design some foci that when activated boost mental processing when in a meditative state.

>>23466416
I know it takes 3 hours per roll, I meant to ask how many hours until max needs sleep

Hey i just had a thought, what if we reduced our bodies need for oxygen? We wouldn't need to breathe as hard during physical exertion, and could hold our breath longer.

Just putting that idea on the table, though.
For now I think we should go back to work on the sensory spell.

>>23466530
Could we get a luck self enchantment? Being lucky is always useful.

>>23466541
lets just get to work on the spell we were doing self entrenchment should be a time skip thing any way cause it takes up soooo much time

>>23466541
What about physical stats? Admittedly augmenting our endurance is a better lout ion than reducing exertion induced strain, but as an example could we build a focus to do the later?

>>23466560
Usually Max sleeps from about 24:00 to 2:00. It's up to you guys if you want to postpone sleep or risk postponing sleep.

>>23466579
Foci are only for magic.

>>23466560
Pretty sure we just woke up.

>>23466541

is there a name for the language dad was teaching us

>>23466594
It's evening. You've been awake since early this morning. This is still the same day when you accidentally tuned in to Breakfast while testing your sensory possession spell.

>>23466581
so we have like7-8 hours to work with?

>>23466600
The Word.

>>23466610
More like 6-7. You have room for about two self-augmentation rolls before your usual bedtime.

>>23466541
Illusions then, given that its probably our best defense.

I vote an hour on a workout, then study a bit on Conjuration so we get a bit closer to learning to teleport safely.

So what are you guys actually going to do now? Continue work on Selene's sensory spell? Try to augment your strength?

>>23466615
>You have room for about two self-augmentation rolls
ok, then I vote working on the sensory spell.

>>23466632
I thought we did a workout routine to try clearing the first breakfast situation from our mind?

>>23466637
Drain focus for illusion, multiple if we can.

>>23466615
Let's do it.
I bet we can succeed. If not, we'll just postpone our sleep time. After all, meditation is almost like resting, right ?
Ask dad to change our incense regularily, and start improving our strength.

>>23466658
You do realize that literally the only time we have ever, ever done anything with illusions is the time we introduced ourself to the class, right?

>>23466637
Study Selene's spell.

>>23466637
Selene's sensory spell

>>23466637
See if we can do a luck based self enchantment.
Bullshit it as applying to every roll ever. You can never be to lucky after all

>>23466632
If we're working on teleporting (which I think should wait til Liz can help us) we should probably start by making a focus for teleporting

>>23466637
work on the spell since we are already here with dad.

>>23466637
Selen's spell

>>23466675
also that time we fuck lin into forgetting her name

yea we should make an illusion boosting foci eventually

>>23466637
work on the spell

>>23466637
Sensory spell research and testing

>>23466637
>>23466658
About that sensory spell and drain problems... How often will baby Selene be able to cast it, even as a game ? and how long will it last ? Won't all that drain be a problem for her ?

>>23466690
Dad's currently working on extending the wards into the new sub floors, so any time he's doing anything else is time that those areas are a risk.

>>23466675
Enchantment is our stongest magic, and this is the murder school for young wizards, the way were going Max is gonna pop like a grape when someone looks at her wrong.

>>23466735
So we should go with something we actually use, like fucking directly with people's minds instead of illusion.

>>23466741
We can potentially detect other students in our vicinity passively if we pull this off. Not a bad skill.

>>23466687
>focus for teleporting
>>23466707
>illusion boosting foci
We should ask dad to buy appropriate temporary foci for those.
I'm not sure about teleporting. For illusions, LSD, mirrors, magnifying glasses, a postcard illustrated with a realistic painting, an optimistic teenager... what else ?

You decide to continue to work on developing that spell for Selene. After all, you want to have it completely ready to go by the time she's ready to start learning it, and at the rate she's growing up, that should be a few weeks - a couple months at most. May as well use your free time while you have it.

You leave your dad to continue working on the wards and head up to the sitting room. You get some paper and start working, writing notes and crude diagrams as you go.

Roll Mind to work on slimming down the number of senses that this spell uses. You get a +1 from Focus. I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

>>23466741
Just because we rarely use something doesn't make it less useful, illusion is much more useful than mental attacks.

Rolled 18

>>23466798
dice now

>>23466741
We already have a "mental attack" focus, though I don't really know why illusions don't count as mental attacks, or what exactly does.

Rolled 59

>>23466798

Rolled 93

>>23466798

>>23466817
A mental attack is an attack using Enchantment that deals damage to someone's Mind score.

Rolled 64

>>23466798

Rolled 90

>>23466798
Would temporary foci like earplugs help ?

Rolled 97

>>23466798

>>23466817
Illusions are an indirect attack. Our focus helps us literally tear minds asunder.

>>23466836
Isn't that about the fifth time you've had to explain that to someone? You're answering a lot of questions in this thread that you've already answered plenty of times before.

>>23466835
You manage to excise one of the senses from this spell. Which one do you eliminate this time around?

>>23466857
Touch. That should correct our loss of bodily control, if nothing else.

>>23466836
Do we literally rewrite their minds to make them less intelligent/aware ? Would rewriting memories be a mental attack ? What about just erasing them without touching the rest ?

>>23466857
smell or taste

Rolled 71

>>23466857
Touch

>>23466857
Tactile.

>>23466857
Touch. Might as well get rid of the one that was most traumatizing to us.

>>23466864
I agree.

>>23466857
sound. Are we using the traditional five senses, or our do we also have to eliminate things like vestibular, ans kinesthetic senses?

>>23466857
Touch!

>>23466857
>>23466875
this

>>23466857
Eliminate touch. It's probably time to check on Selene.

>>23466675
Do tell me, when have we ever used a mental attack?

>>23466896
Sound might be useful for other purposes (eavesdropping) later, I think we should eliminate it last the make a sound only version of the spell for ourselves.

>>23466857
Hearing, her own hearing is more than sufficient.

>>23466971
that;s agood idea

From the last thread:
Does rigorous sex increment the Body stat? Because sex really is some of the best exercise out there, so it would make sense...

>>23466971
>>23466971

But don't you want to be able to passively listen in on our classmates? If we eliminate hearing last then we're pretty close to building an eavesdropping spell otherwise we'll have to start from scratch...already voted but just saying...

>>23466857
Are we eventually going to skim the visual sensory information as well?
Sight can not be simplified as "seeing stuff" there are lots of different concepts that we absorb with our eyes. Shape, distance, colour, faces, patterns etc.
All we want for Selene is for her to recognise colour with her echolocation? We would need to skim the visual sense of the spill so as not to overload her with useless information she already gains with her hearing.

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>>23467083
I agree. Work it down to being active with hearing and sight for our uses, then further to passive sight for Selene.

Voting for removing touch at the moment.

You're pretty sure you've eliminated the sense of touch from the sensory possession spell. That should allow you to retain control of your own body at the very least, you hope.

What do you do now? Continue to work on removing senses from the spell? Try to expand its range of people? Something else entirely?

>>23467233
>Continue to work on removing senses from the spell
lets try for smell next

>>23467233
Keep removing senses. Get it down to hearing and sight, then work on expanding it's draw range.

>>23467233
keep removing stuff once we have it down to sight it shouldn't be to hard to expand range and number of people

>>23467233
Question, can the person whose senses we are using sense that they are being used by someone else? If not this spell will have some interesting surveillance uses for us as well.

>>23467233
Test it on Gav to check if it actually lets us keep control of our body.

>>23467265
They only notice if your spell fails. You require a number of successes equal to someone's Mind score to successfully possess their senses. For, say, Breakfast or Gaviscon, that means it requires only a single success. For Liz or your dad, it requires four successes, otherwise it fails and they notice someone was doing something.

>>23467265
Breakfast didn't seem to notice anything but the cock in front of, and then behind her.

>>23467277
lets test it again after its down to like sight alone
lets get back to work on this one down three to go

>>23467293

So they wouldn't know who did it merely that someone tried something? Still useful....

You keep working; you've gotten one sense down, only a few more to get rid of.

Roll Mind to slim down more senses. You get a +1 from Focus, so I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 78

>>23467341

Makes me wonder if there's anything in place to prevent us from using this to cheat in a written exam.
Assuming there will be more of those, obviously.

Rolled 86

>>23467341

>>23467299
I think we should check if it's the right way to do it before removing more senses.

Rolled 22

>>23467341
moo

Rolled 28

>>23467341

Rolled 74

>>23467341

>>23467345
>>23467349
Nice

>>23467345
>>23467349
Smell and Taste

>>23467341
Preemptively voting to eliminate taste and smell

>>23467349
>>23467345
Remove hearing. It's the most important sense for selene.
I'm not sure we need to bother removing taste and smell.

>>23467380
>>23467379
agree in that order

>>23467379
>>23467380
Agreeing.
>>23467381
We were keeping sound to last so we could make an alternate eavesdropping spell. At least thats what I was on board with.

>>23467345
>>23467349
You're pretty sure you've managed to eliminate scent and taste from the spell as well - you're down to something that lets you have sensory possession of just someone's sight and sound now.

Lin walks in. "Hey, Max," she says, grinning at you. She looks pretty banged up. "You're right, I didn't fare any better against Alexander."

She drops down into one of the chairs, puts her bigass headphones on, and starts zoning out for a while.

What do you do now?

>>23467381
Narrowing it down to hearing and sight makes it a useful spell for us to use, and we're still going to eliminate hearing before we give it to Selene.

>>23467397
I don't see how removing it later will make that easier... we can't divide spells, I think.

Show her your tantric meditative healing trance technique.

>>23467403
Give her a light kiss and a thumbs up for giving it a try!

>>23467424
That only works for things that can drain energy from sex, like an incubus.

>>23467413
If we can't, then we'll make this one for ourselves, then do it again for Selene. We have time before she's ready for it, and hopefully it would be easier the second go-round.

>>23467403
Let's massage her.
I'm impressed that she tried to fight him.

>>23467403
Try it out on Lin, obviously.
>>23467413
We are creating a new spell each time we remove a sense. Just because we've created one version doesn't mean we can't cast the others still.

>>23467403
I have a question though. Since we really simplified it now, do we still require the same number of rolls? I feel like if we arent intruding as much, it would be harder to notice, though I dont know

>>23467445
This is a good point. Maybe on a failed casting we can make a saving roll to not be noticed?

>>23467403
>>23467429
this
>>23467436
this too

>>23467445
Yes, you still require the same number of successes. The final version, where the only thing skimmed is color, will probably only require a single success, though.

>>23467436
>>23467429
She's meditating stop fucking with her.

Can we make some foci now?

>>23467435
Then we should copy for ourself the one that includes smell and taste. It should be useful too, in case there's dogs or monsters with a good smell sense around.

>>23467403

get a few bandages for Lin if she decides to heal and offer a massage, ask if we can tune in to her sight and hearing as a test, or don't ask and try to sneak in to her mind but it is easier to have her cooperate.

>>23467441
>We are creating a new spell each time we remove a sense. Just because we've created one version doesn't mean we can't cast the others still.
This is accurate.

>>23467403
ask her if we can try it out on her first so there might not be as much resistance and sh wont get mad for doing it if we fail

Rolled 42

>>23467471
we could try and make a permanent healing focus, like the one domino has

>>23467467
>>23467403
By the way, we should record that meditation chant she uses and put it on our phone. It'll make self-enhancement a bit easier.

>>23467403
Light a little incense for her and get back to work.

>>23467476
so could we use any combination of sences after we are done here or only the ones we have broken it down into

>>23467429
Seems out of character for us.

I think we should try making Selene her familiar. Summon a wind elemental for flight and speed, alchemize a fluffy or rubbery bat like body, enchant a Gav level mind. Souls be good practice for three different schools of magic.

>>23467502
You have a full possession one, a possession one without touch, and a possession one with only sight and sound. This is intricate high-tier magic requiring formulation in advance.

>>23467491
Hell, we should also grab incense, magic incense, and The Word meditative chant for maximum bonus.

>>23467403
assuming zone out doesn't mean meditate give hr a good rub down, we need a bit of a thinking break too

So, the next thing we need to do to the spell is have it add multiple people's senses to it. Hopefully our own, first, since I'm pretty sure it still works by overwriting the senses that it applies to with those you recieve.

Rolled 19

>>23467484
>Red Cross symbol
>blue cross symbol
>Rod of Asclepius
>Caduceus
we could make all 4

>>23467525
Start by trying the spell on Gav.

>>23467501
This. Seconding foci or familiar construction. Maybe check to see if Breakfast has eaten Liz's meal yet.

>>23467553
No, we need to remove hearing from it, then slim it down to just basic visual data like color rather than full vision, then expand it. We don't need to worry about it overriding senses because Selene doesn't have vision to have overwritten anyway.

Rolled 74

>>23467574
I think we should what for liz to help with the familiar construction

>>23467575
But we're also developing the sight+hearing one for our own surveillance purposes. We can remove hearing after we widen the number of people it can pull from.

>>23467603
We don't want our spying one to be broad, we want it to be targeted. We already have the final version of our spying spell.

So what do you actually do? Try to test the spell on Lin? Try to massage Lin? Try to continue slimming the senses or expanding the range of the spell? Try to build a construct toy for Selene?

>>23467627
But we don't want to lose our -own- sight and hearing while it is in effect, otherwise it leaves us completely vulnerable while we're using it. If we increase the number of people it pulls from, that includes ourself.

>>23467646
Continue slimming looks good.

Rolled 34

lets expand the number of targets for the spell, can it be made to work on everyone with in a specified range?

>>23467646
massage Lin

>>23467646
Test the spell on Gav.

>>23467646
Light incense for Lin, then expand the spell to include ourselves, at the very least.

>>23467646
Remove more senses. We can get rid of hearing now.

>>23467646
Try to massage Lin
we just made a bunch of progress on the spell and don't spend enough time with our live in Asian slut

>>23467646

we have removed quite a lot from the spell, surely we'll want to check how much different it has become?

that or massage Lin is fine with me.

>>23467627
I was actually thinking two versions for us. The spying spell which we essentially have done. And then an untargeted one (picks up anyone that enters the spells sphere of influence around Max) to prevent anyone getting the drop on us like that vampire lord almost did.

>>23467669
Before that, write "I'm impressed you tried. Want a massage to recover ?" on a piece of paper and show her.
I do not think massaging helps against bruises, but she apparently healed herself.

>>23467646
expanding the range of the spell

>>23467646
well liz said help would help with the construct so don't do that I guess the next step of spell research would be get it down to just sight

but maybe we should spend some time working on lin

>>23467646
Any chance we could see Lin's sheet, I want to see how much strain she's holding

>>23467711
>And then an untargeted one (picks up anyone that enters the spells sphere of influence around Max)
proximity sense would be a completely different spell

I can't tell what the consensus is. Massage or slimming?

>>23467646
Did we ever figure out how to escape the spell aside from letting the duration elapse?

>>23467761
Slimming. Let's get this done and not get distracted.

Massage.

>>23467761
Can I just get some confirmation that nothing we've done to the spell so far lets us have our own senses while it's in effect, leaving us effectively sitting ducks?

>>23467761
Massage

>>23467761

massage.

>>23467761
Massage

>>23467761
Slimming

>>23467778
Yes, your own senses get overridden by whatever senses are left. At the moment, though, you're making a spell for Selene, not for spying. That's my take on the consensus, anyway. Perhaps you should concern yourself with the spying spell when it's actually being worked on.

>>23467761
Massage

>>23467778
You're right. Before we slim it anymore we have to structure the spell so that the new information is overlaid on the caster's existing senses instead of replacing them.

>>23467815
The spying part is simply a matter of changing the order in which we alter the spell. Before we give it to Selene, we're going to remove sight and widen it's range. It's just most efficient if we widen the range before removing sight, since it serves two purposes at once.

>>23467851
Widening range doesn't add your own senses to it.

>>23467851
>Before we give it to Selene, we're going to remove sight

Didn't we want her to learn the spell so that she could see?

>>23467815
Overriding sight isn't an issue with selene, that should be a low priority

>>23467815
Once we get down to just having the visual sense affected, I reckon that needs to be skimmed down also. All she needs to recognise is colour ontop of her echolocation.
She already has the ability to sense distance and shapes. So that part of the visual senses of other people should be removed to avoid cluttering her own senses.

>>23467868
Er, to clarify, I mean the range of people that it can pull from at once, not distance.
Because it would be silly if we could hack other people's senses with it, but not our own, right?
>>23467870
Er, yeah, I meant hearing.

You stand up and walk over to Lin to give her a shoulder massage. She swats at your hand lightly as soon as you start, though. "I'm still all bruised from sparring. I don't need a massage," she says, taking off her headphones briefly. "Thanks anyway, Max."

What do you do now?

>>23467875
do we even know if the slimmed down spell only shuts downs those senses that it skims?
might just as well be that it still overrides everything

>>23467761
If she isn't meditating offer the massage, if she is then light insence for her and tell her you're impressed she tried sparing with Alex after seeing you taken ro pieces by him.

>>23467892
Say sorry then. Work on removing hearing from the spell.

>>23467892
back to work lets get hearing out of the spell

>>23467891
I knew exactly what you meant. Expanding the pool drawn from doesn't add your own senses in. That would cause a feedback loop because it would feed all of the senses you're drawing in into you a second time, then double again, and so on until you either go insane or the spell breaks.

>>23467892
"Sorry. Also I want you to know, I'm impressed that you tried."

>>23467892

"my bad, sorry. I'm impressed that you tried."

get back to the spell.

>>23467892
"Gee, everyone is getting beat up today."

>>23467919
This, then check on Selene (who is hopefully still napping) before pairing down the spell to just sight.

>>23467646
Incense and slimming senses.

>>23467916
Okay, I see where I got confused.
I thought we were pulling from the sense before their mind processed it, like grabbing their visual data from between the eye and the fully comprehended brain gestalt.
What we're actually doing is taking information as the brain is processing it and overlaying that into ours. So if we try to do the same to our own brain it would cause said feedback.
If it was the former then we could have simply added our own senses to what we're hacking, but since it's the latter, we're going to have to add the ability to keep our own senses separately.

>>23467484
>>23467554
this is a good idea that we should get around to doing sometime soon
>>23467892
offer to get her some painkillers, then work on increasing the spells range

>>23468011
Pain killers don't work on bruises, in fact, due to how they thin the blood, they make bruises worse.

Offer to draw her a hot bath instead.

>>23468072
>Pain killers don't work on bruises
But they work as a foci.

I vote we heal Lin's bruises as a method to study more Alchemy

"I'm impressed you tried anyway," you say. She just grins and goes back to her music.

You head back to where you were working on the spell. It just needs some more slimming, then it will be ready for expansion.

Roll Mind to continue slimming it down. You get a +1 from Focus, so I'll consider the first four 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 46

>>23468125

Rolled 82

>>23468125

Rolled 82

>>23468125
Rolling.

Rolled 40

>>23468125

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>>23468125


>>23468119
lets not kill her

>>23468134
>>23468136
You not only manage to cut out hearing from the spell, you also pare down vision to just including the parts you want Selene to have to help augment her echolocation. It looks like Lin is dozing her her chair, her headphones still on as she sleeps.

What do you do now?

>>23468170
Let's test it on Breakfast since Lin is asleep.

Rolled 92

>>23468170
>time?
now to work on increasing the number of targets

>>23468170
Check on Liz and Selene then move on to something else.

>>23468170
Talk to dad about abusing the blood bond to make us immune to mind control.

Rolled 74

>>23468202
no, that cuts of all sorts of beneficial enchanting we can do

>>23468170
Alterate moar!
Add draw range.

>>23468170
carry her to bed no reason to sleep in a chair,then get a bottle reedy for Selene, grab our note and show dad what we got done so far

>>23468218
Not if you word it correctly.
"Without my explicit consent" is your friend.

>>23468170
The plan is still to augment selene's echolocation (color in the surfaces she detects by clicking with externally acquired sensory information), right?

>>23468236
As far as I know.

>>23468170

share our news with dad but don't keep him from what he's doing.

let Lin stay in the chair but cover her with a blanket so she doesn't get cold, after that I'm down with working on a permanent healing focus.

>>23468170
Test it.

>>23468218
This would potentially eliminate our ability to augment our mind. No.

Make foci, illusion foci, drain foci, lightning foci, golem crafting and spirit conjuring foci.

Make all the foci.

>>23468257
Seconding covering Lin with a blanket

I think we should make a sex foci, for any sex related alchemy or enchantment we do. Is that too broad, covering two different schools?

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>>23468234
>"Without my explicit consent" is your friend.
that's just asking for physical torture until you consent

>>23468322
This does nothing to increase our survivability.

>>23468170
show the pops what we got done so far see if he will help on wear to go next

>>23468326
If someone is able to capture and torture us for long enough to do that, then we were already fucked anyways. There's nothing we could do against someone that powerful.

>>23468326
If you're in the position to be tortured until you consent you have bigger problems.

>>23468378
>here's nothing we could do against someone that powerful.
all it would take is someone blindsiding us.

>>23468234
Dad is a several thousand year old demon who is required to tell us the truth. Ask him for help with the wording.

>>23468326
Or just say that consent given under any form of coercion is invalid.

no screwing with the blood bond

>>23468420
If we are already blindsided and being totured, we've got bigger issues than that they might be able to get around our defenses. Plus, they'd have to know that ability even exists in the first place to try to get around it. The fact that it could be defeated if we are already in a position to be killed is not a reason not to do it, particularly if it takes no more than an hour.

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Guys, I just realizing something amazing
>Most demons are dicks, but some just wanted peace and love
>Demons know the Word
>To humans, the Word just sounds like gibberish
>If sung, the Word sounds like lyrical gibberish
Scatman John was an incubus.

>>23468420
Oh, sorry. I must have posted in the wrong thread. I thought this was More Paranoid Than Shadowrun Quest.
We're taking steps to make that extremely difficult, and if someone blindsides us like that, then their intent will be to kill us, not capture us and risk us escaping with the knowledge of one of their bunker's location.

>>23468435

i agree, dad would likely get upset if we mention something like this. (like that time with the Wendigo, which was a horrible idea.)

>>23468426
"any form of coercion" is way too broad, it would prevent us from acting in response to anything

Look, our dad is required by the blood bond to tell us the truth, and he knows as much or more about the bond than us. Ask him if it would work and how to word the deal.

Rolled 69

drop the blood bond, thing we have more important things to do, like healing foci

You pick up Lin and carry her to bed. You tuck her in and check on Liz. She's still asleep, her food is still intact - and now cold and having sat out for hours. Her cold pack is discarded on the pillow, likely from moving around in her sleep. You head on down to Selene after that and find her asleep in her crib, half-chewing on her entire fist. She doesn't seem to be hurting herself with her fangs.

What do you do now?

>>23468504
we need to make some healing foci

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>>23468170
Let's try to improve it so that it passively gets sense from the nearest creature(s), instead of being targeted at a specific one.

If we test it, test it on Gaviscon.

>>23468486
I'm pretty sure when we were setting it up he said it was a bad or at least restrictive idea to block mind control effects through the blood bond.

>>23468459
>"I'm the scatman!"
Surely makes you feel knots, eh?

>>23468435
To skrew with our original blood bond we have to make a new blood bond that has a clause explicitly eliminating a previous one. Not something we can do by accident.
>>23468477
In that Case OP had said multiple times that it was stupid. He's said that this idea could actually work.

>>23468504
Get her her teething ring and then go talk to Liz about the tattoos if she's still awake.

Let's get these things done tommorrow.

>>23468504
Focus-crafting time.
How long until midnight, and how long does it take to make a single focus?

>>23468504
talk with dad show him the progress we made on the spell

see if he will help on the next step then do it

>>23468504
Is Breakfast awake? If so, we should set her up doing something mildly visually stimulating that isn't sucking our dads dick and try out the spell.

Either that or explore a little.

>>23468504
Dad, blood bond mind control. NOW
>>23468539
You're wrong.

>>23468546
Liz hasn't been awake since she fell asleep at the end of the last thread.

>>23468554
She isn't awake.

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>>23468540
That would only happen if you were half-demon. I'm talking about his actual scatting being what the Old Tongue sounds like to mankind.

>>23468504

gather items for a permanent healing focus (banages, disinfectant, medical tape, painkillers, etc...) also get our notes on it.

or ask dad if we can test our spell on him.

>>23468568
Ok then. Nobody is awake, lets augment strength.

>>23468504
Well we could ask dad some tips, like what we should be doing.

Or we could make focuses

>>23468504
Ì still think we should make ourself an utility belt filled with temporary foci.
Matches, lighters, a small flashlight, batteries, electric cable, a small wire cutter, a bit of vynil tubing, a small length of copper pipe, a steel bolt and nut, a few springs, some lead, vials of water, alcohol, acid, blood, semen (ours), condoms, a root a branch a nut a flower and some leaves, a claw, a bag of dead insects, a rabbit's heart and eyes in small jars, some clay, some ash, a magnifying glass, a small mirror, bandaids, a roll of gauze, pain pills, needles and pins, a pair of scissors, a small knife, a fork and a spoon.
We should have glue, tape, paper and pens in a bag we carry around too. And that cheap book we bought for the plane.

>>23468504
Healing focus crafting time, we've made enough progress on the sensory spell without getting a second opinion from dad for now.

>>23468546
Liz is asleep

>>23468585
we don't have the time for the now, we can do that after max has slept

>>23468585
Don't have enough time before we have to sleep.

Snapple, start finding quotes or composing text for our tattoos.

Rolled 91

>>23468540
No, but Ski bi di bi di do bap do Do bam do Bada bwi ba ba bada bo Baba ba da bo Bwi ba ba ba do does.

>>23468559
no lets not fuck with something that is working just fine
>>23468568
its just us and dad lets show him what we have done with the spell then move on to the next part to make it work for Selene

>>23468585
that takes sessions of 3 hours and we will need to sleep before then no

not right now

>>23468608
focus and self aug should be done as a time skip rolling for them is a pain in the ass plus we would want liz and lin to help making it more likely to work well with a smaller refractory time

>>23468650
This is oddly true

>>23468636
>asking Snapple to do anything
Now he is just going to find some retarded quote or demand that we tattoo the word Necksnapper all over our body and spam the threads for the next few days while >implying anyone who shoots him down wants Max to die.

>>23468570
>>23468650
Flashbag from some time long ago:

>"Boss"

>"Dimitry?"

>"Skibbity beep-bop zip zop zoopity blip blop yeah..."

>"What?"

>"Just testing, Boss. I'm thinking up a prank."

>"Right. Coffee, Dimitry?"

>"Thank you, boss."

>>23468704
Tattooed on our knuckles
>N E C K
>S N A P
For force increase at a moments notice

>>23468653
Augs I agree with, but actual foci crafting usually takes us under an hour and most of that time is spent gathering temporary foci. We also have time to regenerate strain before Liz or Lin (assuming she's still at half sleep) wakes up.

>>23468636
>>23468704
I don't even care what we get at this point. Anything I pick is going to get people that say it's retarded. I want the tattoos over with before some dick ass wizard steal our liver.

Although it would be funny as fuck if Fem decided to troll everyone by making our Old Tongue (whatever it's actually called) script look like cheesy, tacky valentines hearts to humans.

>>23468725
We're having the language of the demons tattooed on us. Hopefully for kickass magical boosts.
Equivalent of language of magic.

>>23468725
Wow a suggestion related to neck snapping that semi makes sense

>>23468746
Make a living alchemy meditation Foci. Actually, make as many as possible.

>>23468769
Huh, just realized that the higher circle dextra and nemesis kids will probably be able to recognize the script...

>>23468767
Thats because everything you pick IS retarded.
>>23468771
Notice it didnt come from Snapple. Its still stupid, too, just not Snapple stupid.

Anyways, I vote we either make some foci, tinker with Gaviscon - which could be related to making foci, or go splorin.

>>23468820
No, they won't. They either bind or kill demons, they don't accept them into their ranks, and anyone who doesn't have that kind of heritage will just see a bunch of incomprehensible squiggles.

>>23468820
>dextra
No. Humans can't read it.
>nemesis
Maybe.

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Also Max is really starting to give me a Zorin Blitz vibe.

>mind fuckery
>muscles
>shortish hair
>not human
>gibberish magic script tattoos imminent
>Zorin is a world class dick, we have a world class dick.

Now all we need is a scythe.

>>23468820
only if there part Angle/demon and had some one to teach them

>>23468725
yes love it

lets finish what we started with this spell for Selene

>>23468504
Foci craft, healing

>>23468875
Fuck no. No scythes. I don't think it gets any more stupid than that.

>>23468820
Dreamweavers could

>>23468820
Unless they have demonbloods in their midst, Dextra will not recognize it as anything other than gibberish. They will literally be incapable of comprehending it as anything but. And even if they do have a demonblood in their midst, said demonblood would probably just think its some weird Asian language they dont know if they know we are in Lotus

Nemesis maybe, but then that would also mean they would either have to be first generation demons or taught the language by one, which if our dad is anything to go by, its not something they like to talk about.

That is still something to keep in mind though, we might be making a few friends/foes by branding ourselves as a demon to those that know the language.

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>>23468897
>I don't think it gets any more stupid than that.
Battledicks

Still think we should make an illusion drain focus or two.

>>23468905
UV ink still prevents some of that.

>>23468769
>We're having the language of the demons tattooed on us.
Except it's not, it's the Word, the combined language of heaven and earth (at least by the christian mythology element of reality) that, prior to Babel, everything spoke. We could probably talk to angels with it, too.

>>23468905
What about angel bloods?

>>23468931
I wonder, do angel bloods also have cocks? Or does each angel/demon have its own unique thing it passed down through its descendents?

>>23468931
Traditionally speaking, angel bloods are nephilm, which are fallen angels, which are demons.

That and they all got drowned in the flood.

And assuming they survived all that, I doubt they would be all that keen on doing the work of the guy who essentially tried to bathtub murder his own grandchildren.

>>23469004
Pretty sure not all demons are of the incubi/siccubi molds. Also not sure if demon is much more than a political designation for the collection of angels that rebelled against heaven in this setting.

>>23468905
I was not trying to imply either dextra or nemesis could read "the word", just that they probably can recognize some of the alphabet

>>23469040
>Pretty sure not all demons are of the incubi/siccubi molds. Also not sure if demon is much more than a political designation for the collection of angels that rebelled against heaven in this setting.
all mythology is true in this setting, so that maybe the case for christian mythology

>>23469089
>just that they probably can recognize some of the alphabet
>he Spoke a flaw into their minds and souls, broke their ability to understand the Word
they literally can't

>>23469089
They can't unless they're part demon or angel, it's literally impossible for humans to recognize it due to YHWH shattering The Word.

And even if they are half blooded, they still wouldn't recognize it as a language unless they had learned it.

>>23468504
Create healing focus.

>>23469162
Funny since we (probably an exception but still, that's what we have to go on) recognized it the first time we heard it. You're right though, I am being paranoid and will happily drop it.

>>23469207
>Funny since we (probably an exception but still, that's what we have to go on) recognized it the first time we heard it.
it's more they'd know it was a language, but have no clue what language or what It meant

>>23469207
that would be because we "heard" it, speaking a language has a rhythm and pattern, a written language just looks like random symbols until you learn what those symbols mean.

As an example, compare how quickly you learned to speak, to how quickly you learned to read and write, and the method used to do so.

>>23469207
That would be because were half demon, and we only recognized that it was a language.

>>23469186
yes, lets make some healing foci

>>23469236
They likely wouldn't even recognize it as a language as opposed to random symbolization.

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>>23469207
We recognized it as actually being a language, though we couldn't understand anything past that. Even if they have the heritage to be able to read it, it'll just look like some kind of made up language, like elvish.

>>23468897
to good for the grim reaper eh?

>>23469325
>grim reaper
he can't be killed, and doesn't have to worry about portability or practicality

>>23469325
the grim reaper is the one entity that is allowed to wield a scythe for purposes other than cutting plants

>>23469325
>>23469364
also
his scythe is a proper scythe
not like this >>23468875 useless piece of shit here
there is literally no purpose that thing is suited for

>>23469267
>Even if they have the heritage to be able to read it
wrong, Dad said it had to do with the fact that we are part spirit, and only spirits can read/recognize it as a language, comprehending it is different entirely

so no, heritage would not help, being part spirit would

>>23469398
pretty sure thats exactly what anon meant by heritage

Anyone else worried about the state of FemCOCK's internet?

>>23469390
>there is literally no purpose that thing is suited for
Well now that's just not true. It's perfectly suited to looking like a gaudy piece of trash, for example. I bet you could also use it to impress edgy tryhard twelve year olds who don't know any better.

If we are getting a melee weapon then there's only two real options, claymore or tetsubo.

>>23469424
True, but if those are your goals then the keyblade works much, much better.