"Mom's asked me to bring Selene along when I come home in the winter. Would you want to go too?"

>>23337799
this

what do we need to start expanding the basement?

>>23337881
I'd imagine it will be a multi-stage process.

Step one would probably be some sort of earth elemental to scout out and excavate under the ground. Then we use alchemy to shore up the spaces and work them into liveable rooms.

>>23337894
We might also want to check if Gav is at all useful for excavation or if it would be useful to build a second familiar for construction and home maintenance? Not sure if the second option is worth the time involved...

>>23337799
>>23337881
These, ask if he wants to come visit, leave it up to him. Then get to discussing about the expansion.

>>23337966
We could make another set of arms for him if we want him to dig.

>>23337966
This is why I figured a temporary summon specifically for the purpose would be the way to go.

We aren't likely to need a long term digger, and I'd rather summon up something that's specifically skilled at it rather than make Gav do it and risk him getting crushed in a cave-in.

"What do we actually need to do to start expanding the basement?" you ask.

"Nothing too complicated. First we need to design the floor plan, then excavate by transmuting the material into something else or teleporting it out, reinforce everything with Alchemy and maybe the help of some kind of spirit, and then furnish it. We could do that in a single weekend if we really put our minds to it. The hard part is extending the warding down there. I mean, you've seen how long it's taken me just to rework our wards here. I'm still not done - though I am close, now," he explains, pounding away at Breakfast calmly.

"Mom wants me to take Selene home with me this winter to meet her. Do you want to go home too?" you ask cautiously.

"I'm not sure if that's a good idea, Max," he says after a few moments of thought. "I mean, someone has to stay here to keep Breakfast and Gaviscon out of trouble - I mean, I doubt you want to take them with you. And... Ah, hell, Max, I'm afraid to see her again."

What do you say?

>>23338043
If he doesn't want to come don't make him. After all, he isn't wrong about keeping Breakfast and Gaviscon out of trouble.

Rolled 40

>>23338043
Dad needs to man up and come, we will find a way.

>>23338043
yea that makes sense you should probable see her at one point though.

well once you are done with the wards and keys we will start on new basement levels should probable fix the top too

>>23338043
>Ah, hell, Max, I'm afraid to see her again.
"I have a hunch it's a mutual feeling for both of you."

>>23338043
Maybe you should start by having a conversation with her on the phone.
I know I'm pushing you a bit here, but well, I'd like my parents to have at least a friendly relationship.

What do we want to put in the new basement ?

>>23338043
If he isn't ready to see her yet, don't push it, that would be a good way to have the two of them fall out.

In the meantime, do we have any other plans on what to do today? More studying would be my guess.

Also, we still haven't had that Liz & Gav threesome that was mentioned last thread.

>>23338095
True, but we should probably give him some more time to get his head together. Remember we only let him out of the cell 2-4 weeks ago, we have no idea how he'd react to a prey rich evnironment like new york. Besides, he's right about Gav and breakfast needing a caretaker and he'll probably have some projects to take care of while we're gone.

>>23338234
We haven't built it yet. And we shouldn't plan for it yet because it potentially endangers our whole base while it's going to be built.

>>23338242
>If he isn't ready to see her yet, don't push it, that would be a good way to have the two of them fall out.
He seems to be the kind of person that will never feel ready. He lost contact with most of his family.

>>23338234
I vote a pool, jacuzzi and sauna on some level, probably more living space in general for now though

>>23338242
>Liz & Gav threesome

Seconded, Gav needs to get the full set, he's already fucked Max, Lin and Breakfast, only Liz remains unaware of the wonders of Gav's vibrating attachment.

>>23338274
Well, some people proposed that, I'm curious what for.

>>23338294
Perhaps so, but I think that at first, we should go with >>23338226

Start him off with something that won't make him freak out and run away.

>>23338303
Yes, but later. Bugger, did we ever get around to child-proofing Breakfast and Gav? If not, now might be a good time for that...

>>23338043
Leaving the sanctum alone could be a really bad move, if anyone finds it while we're gone. I can't say I disagree with him.

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>>23338318
I'm fine with that.

By the way, I wasn't there for the end of the last thread, and I must say that I'm opposed to the giant kraken dryad idea.
It's a huge risk to get a water-breathing, 20-feet long dryad. She might even have a beak. Someone aid it was a bet she would just be tall and have tentacles, but I we shouldn't take that kind of chances with one of our dryads.
I think we would do better by using living alchemy to grow tentacles ourselves, and seducing a giant.

And I still want a dryad particularily good at gardening, and if possible able to create animated constructs out of plants.

Ask dad if he knows of any monster that has this kind of ability, by the way.

>>23338450
Remember that the Vampire Lord was the size of a large bear, but it didn't make Selene the size of a large bear.

It will most likely be tall, but not 20 foot tall.

>>23338450
Our dad's already sorting out the ingredients and has been in contact with sellers. It's a bit late to change our mind now.

>>23338450
All dryads are good at gardening, I think that was covered before.

It comes from the base dryad rather than the things added on.

>>23338434
Well breakfast is here right now, so we can pull our cock out of her mouth and give her some instructions on the proper way to behave around Selene.

>>23338480
Which begs the question, how is he paying them? Seriously, I assume he's just rich as hell given how old he seems to be, but if he's handing out favors or trading resources we don't know about we should probably correct our ignorance.

>>23338468
Remember, the taller the dryad the better the arborist

I'm looking forward to this giant/kraken dryad being all grown up and amazonian.

Because by that time, Selene will have grown up and watched us being all dom with Liz for years.

So Selene will start copying us, being the dom to her far more physically powerful sister.

...and that gives me a boner.

>>23338468
Selene hasn't finished growing, and I'm sure that results vary wildly. The size of the Vampire Lord wasn't its main characteristic. The size of a giant is. And krakens are pretty big too.
There's not certainty, but it's still a very big risk to take with one of our daughters.
>>23338504
No, they can get better. That guy from the Lotus used a water elemental and an earth elemental to make his dryad better at gardening. He said it was really useful.
>>23338480
No, he didn't buy them yet. And it's not too late until we use them. At worst, we can use them to make powerful foci.

>>23338584
She can do that with the draconic dryad.

>>23338128
don't fix the top of the tower you twit, it'll make where we live more obvious.

>>23338450
Stop it, we have already decided to feed our soon-to-be daughter delicious jotuun bones. If by some miracle you're right and she turns out to be twenty feet tall, we just expand our basement floors accordingly.

Besides, the book just says that it influences their growth, not turns them into fucking giants.

Can we please just stick with the dryads we've figured out already, we've been discussing this for about ten threads now, and every time we come to a decision, someone appears and says we need to change it.

>>23338693
i agree

>>23338616
It didnt make the dryad more -skilled- at gardening, it just gave her a natural predisposition towards manipulating earth and water so that she could put her gardening skills to better use.

>>23338693
Seconding.

>>23338298
i think someone on the last thread was talking about making a room specifically for meditation and healing that had a waterfall we could sit under

>>23338651
>She can do that with the draconic dryad too.
Fixed that for you

what time is it where you are femcock?
cuz its like 10am for me and your threads run pretty late, it gives me something to do all day

>>23338736
Lucky you, it's 6.30pm over here, and I always miss the last couple hours of the quest.

It makes me sad, especially when I miss important decisions.

>>23338736
It's about 1:20 here. I'm in New York.

>>23338686
The vampire blood made Selene blind, not near-sighted. And what if she's aquatic ?
>>23338693
Better discuss it for one more thread than taking a bad decision.
>>23338705
Same effect. She'd be better at gardening because in addition to her regular skills she'll havee appropriate magical skills.
It will be useful for an artificial garden that doesn't recieve rain.

dont try and make him. things like this take time

>>23338817
You're the only one who thinks it is a bad decision though, you're just bogging down the quest restarting a discussion we had ages ago.

>>23338043
Thats understandable. We will have plenty more breaks down the road, especially if you keep working on things in the tower.

>>23338769
ah, east coast
west coast is where its at
>>23338817
has it been considered that the pheonix ash wont give the dryad fire-capabilities, but instead the ability of rebirth, like lin
also, using lins juices could very well make our dryads come back if they die

>>23338880
Hmm, that is actually an interesting point, would ingredients from lin cause some form of rebirth powers, or would she only register as human.

Unfortunately I don't think we know enough about her condition to be able to tell.

>>23338880
>pheonix ash wont give the dryad fire-capabilities, but instead the ability of rebirth
Thats why I wanted it all along. On the off case another ethnic cleansing occurs, she could just rise from her ashes.

It was also discussed briefly to have Lin bleed on them, but whatever is up with her I doubt its hereditary.

"I understand if you're worried," you say, looking him in the eye. "I think mom is too. You should call her at least, though. Have a conversation."

"Yeah, you're probably right, Max," he says, after a long sigh. "I think I'll call her after I'm done with Breakfast. If I can borrow your phone, that is."

"Sure thing," you say, nodding.

Is there anything else you want to do while you're here?

>>23338904
we could go to the library and try to figure it out, lin would likely be very interested, if she dosnt know already

>>23338988
We should probably wait until he's done with Breakfast before we run over the Selene ground rules with her. She's not likely to pay attention while she's receiving the dick.

I guess we should go find Gav next and make sure he understands what is and is not acceptable around Selene.

im working on a design for the next basement level
anyone have any ideas on what they want in it?
i had the idea of like a dedicated summoning area, with a counter to put all the reagents we would need and a summoning circle

also we should have an aquarium or something ready when we the kraken one is born in case she needs water
and if she does need water it might not be a good idea to give her the giants bone
like maybe kraken/dragon blood giant/pheonix

>>23339073
I think the current pairings are fine, we've got one sorcery, one bruiser.

The kraken/giant one isn't going to be that big.

>>23338880
>has it been considered that the pheonix ash wont give the dryad fire-capabilities, but instead the ability of rebirth, like lin
>also, using lins juices could very well make our dryads come back if they die
Yes, I think both ideas have been discussed.
The dragon/pheonix idea seems to be a good one.
>>23338878
You're just rushing to do something while refusing to think of the consequences. I'm not the only one who was wary of the giant/kraken idea, and that's why the discussion was long. For some reason at the end of last thread our concerns were handwaved, but that doesn't mean the discussion was finished.

And discussing our mid-term plans isn't bogging down the quest.

>>23338988
Get Breakfast cleaned up and take her to see Selene. After laying down ground rules, of course.

>>23339114
We have been discussing this for several threads, this was not a quick decision.

Jesus christ I don't want this to be the next incest war.

>>23339114
So do you have any alternative ideas?

As was said earlier, our dad has already started gathering the ingredients.

I think the Kraken/Giant one is fine, and it appeals to quite a few people's fetishes, which is one of the points of this quest.

>>23339114
Am I the only one who assumed that we would be planting the next batch of dryads in 6-12 months? Seriously we do not need three impulsive juvenile dryads running around the house at the same time.

>>23339190
They do grow up very fast, I think planting them all soon will work out okay.

>>23339104
>The kraken/giant one isn't going to be that big.
You have no way to know.

>>23339140
The discussing was long, the decision was quick and disregarded a lot of the discussion.

>>23338988
I still want to ask about a monster that can create its minions.

>>23339188
yes it does appeal
im just worried about whether we will be able to fit her inside the tower
aint no way were gonna have one of our babies outisde the tower without us

>>23339209
you onyl have impulsive juvinile for about 7 months, and then they're an adult. 1 year = 1 month.
And look, Selene is already walking a little too. near near her first worlds (hopefully those not being FUCK) Thats how fast they develop.

>>23339234
No, we also have no way of knowing that the dragon/phoenix one won't instantly burst into flames and die because it's full of fire without being properly fireproofed.

It's always going to be a bit of a gamble.

>>23339248
You could say the same about the dragon one though, last I checked, dragons were pretty fucking big too.

>>23339256
she said like... "fock" or something
>>23339276
in my experience giants are bigger than dragons

>>23339288
Really, in my experience dragons are bigger than giants.

Of course since we're both basing our experience on things that don't exist irl, it's a bit limited.

>>23339234
The vampire lord makes minions in the form of thralls. Can you think of any monster from any folklore that makes minions that aren't some form of thrall or more of itself? One that animates minions for itself? Because I can't.

>>23339324
lich makes its own minions

>>23339190
It will take dad several months to acquire all the ingredients, so we were trying to lock in a choice now.

>>23339324
if you play Last Stand and pick a full team of chaos sorcerers you can create and infinite number of minions

>>23339332
>>23339356
This quest seems to be going more on folklore, so a lich is probably going to be more like Koschei the Deathless than some necromancer skeleton. Also, liches make minions with learned magic, not innate magic.

>>23339266
There's gambles and gambles. Dryad are designed to become functionning hybrids, so bursting into flames is unlikely. They're not designed not to become very big or aquatic.
>>23339301
We could ask dad.

>>23339344
Not that we will lock in a choice until Femcock calls for a dice roll, because that's how this quest goes.

Everyone has their own ideas, and no-one is willing to back down.

>>23339379
We could also check up on the influence a giant will have on the dryad, I'd imagine giant parts are common enough additions that there's information somewhere.

We could solve all these debates by getting more detailed information on how the ingredients we're gathering would influence the dryad.

Perhaps there's another book for that in the library.

>>23339391
Blatant Arguing Quest;
IT NEVER ENDS

>>23339376
fair point
>>23339379
yes ask dad if dragons are bigger than giants

although i dont know if i want scaly tentacles so im thinking of backing off the kraken/dragon

>>23339344
Agreed, my point was more alone the lines that this desision is ultimately reversible, even if reversing course wastes a fair amount of effort, for awhile yet. We have time to look up dryad recipes later this semester.

>>23339188
Yeah, I want one with elemental powers.
If I can get one to create plant constructs I would like that a lot.
>>23339324
To be honest, I was thinking of a Wakfu (sadida and its dolls). But I'm not very knowledgeable on folklore.
Ents animating other trees in LotR fit the bill too.

>>23339391
In asking him to acquire certain ingredients, you have functionally locked in your choices unless you want to tell your dad, "Fuck the work you've already put in over the past month, let's switch to something else entirely because of my hypothetical concerned about the choices I've already made." If you're fine with telling him that, then there's no concern.

>>23339410
Yeah, doing a bit more research would be a good idea I think.

>>23339410
I second this. If we get our hands on a book with listings of how various ingredients influence dryads, we can actually get a better idea ahead of time. That way the arguments on whether or not a given ingredient will be instantly fatal or at the very least debilitating will be dealt with.

>>23339444
I'm not at all fine with telling him that. I'm happy with the choices we've made, but suddenly some people are whining about them again.

>>23339410
>We could solve all these debates by getting more detailed information on how the ingredients we're gathering would influence the dryad.
I like you.
Let's do this.

>>23339444
We already told him to get giant bones + Kraken tentacles and phoenix ash + dragon blood, right?

>>23339444
k, lol, i guess we can stop arguing about the dryad combinations then
dads already getting stuff for kraken/giant

>>23339444
Nope

>>23339472
Also next time skip we should really spend time with dad.

>>23339466
Yes. He's been spending the past month narrowing in on a giant bone and getting back in contact with a supplier of deep sea monster parts and meat.

>>23339444
Alright, we're doing this then. Good.

>>23339483
Then stick with it. He will be pissed if we turn round and go "actually I've decided to do something different, sorry about all that, we can just use them as a focus or something I dunno."

Also, for those curious, he's trying to get the bone of a Frost Giant, a Jotunn.

>>23339483
Oh good.
Hopefully that'll get some of the morons to pipe down.
I know it won't;~;

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>>23339514
yeah, frost giants are definatebly bigger than dragons
>>23339482
we could go bowling

>>23339444
I didn't think the timeskip would be over a month this time... I would have argued more at the time had I known.

I'm uncomfortable telling this to him, but it's better than risking making a mistake with the dryad.
We can always use what he buys on making foci, right ? It's worth their price and the work he put in, I think.
Let's ask for his forgiveness about making decisions without thinking them through, but we'd better not take risk with our dryads.

>>23339514
Sweet.

A bone from a type of giant that can make war on the norse gods. It's going to be badass.

>>23339514
also relevant, im listening to In Flames - Jotun

>>23339514
inb4Thor tries to kill our child.

>>23339444
Stick with it. No reason to change it now.

>>23339545
I think you're pretty heavily outvoted on this one.

>>23339543
Or we could fuck, whatever.

incoming incest argument

>>23339572
inb4 the sea god tries to fuck her

>>23339545
Well if we're going to do that, let's at least use a white lie to soften the blow to the poor guy, something like -
"Hey dad, I got some advice today that using that ingredient on a dryad wouldn't really be the best idea - but I DO have a really good idea for another way to use it if you want to keep going on getting it. If not, no problem, I totally understand."

But of course, that would only be if we did tell him to go get something else.

>>23339608
being the grandmother of half-gods seems pretty cool

>>23339545
>Let's ask for his forgiveness about making decisions without thinking them through
We thought them through, though I'm sorry you disagree with our thought process.

>>23339604
Why not both. We can fuck at the bowling alley.

>>23339624
Because being the mom of a demi-god has always worked out well in myth. Shit, at least we aren't attracting Zeus.

>>23339623
>Hey dad, I got some advice today that using that ingredient on a dryad wouldn't really be the best idea
But that's a lie.

>>23339623
I really don't think we should be changing our mind now.

>>23339657
You didn't actually read the entire post, did you?

I vote stick with it. We have made our decision, backing out now after already setting things in motion is like getting halfway to your destination and turning around.

>>23338988
k, i think we should ask him to go bowling, to get a break from the tower
thats for whats happening directly next in femcocks story telling

>>23339623
>Trying to lie to someone with 5 squares of enchantment.

Good luck with that.

>>23339652
If anyone could impregnate Max, it'd be Zeus.

>>23339695
yeah, stick with it

>>23339574
There's a reason to change it (making a dryad we can care for and protect), and one not to (not upsetting our dad).
>>23339594
Still think I'm right.

Oh well, we would have reached autosage before the end of the session anyway, a few posts more or less don't make a difference.

Hey, Femcock, I just finished Planetary after starting yesterday.
Holy shit, that's awesome.
Anything in specific I should read now?

>>23339687
Of course I did, but I don't want to lie about getting advice. If we jerk him around like this, it's due to 100% hypothetical paranoia with no basis in fact, just our own head. Let's be straight with him if we're going to be a fucking cunt.

>>23339713
>Still think I'm right.

Perhaps, but if you're outvoted, all you're doing is arguing for the sake of it.

You need to learn when you can't win and should move on, like I did back when we didn't get incest.

>>23339747
i also wanted the incest
but you gotta admit that breakfast is a pretty good trade-off

>>23339514
This will be fun. Work on Gav and breakfast. Add looking up the size of the largest dryad on record (there's got to be a Guinness book of world records equivalent that covers this stuff) the next time we hit the library. To be clear, still voting for kraken/ frost giant muscle dryad.

>>23339713
Cheer up, when our Jotunn/Kraken daughter turns out to be 50ft tall and incapable of surviving without the pressure of the deep ocean, you can tell everyone that you totally called it.

For now though, let's stick with what was decided.

>>23339730
Have you read The Authority? Watchmen? Doom Patrol? The Invisibles? Sandman? Doktor Sleepless is pretty good - it features tulpa-creation in a way that isn't crazy and stupid and actually cleaves to Tibetan mysticism.

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>>23339713
No, your only reason to change anything is because you THINK its a bad idea. You have absolutely no evidence to back up your line of thought and have done nothing to convince us to change what was already agreed upon and lose in-game months of work solely for your trepidation about giant bones.

>>23339782
Heh, I used Don Bastardo as an NPC in a Traveller campaign once. The resident psychic went traipsing off into the wilderness by himself looking for a guru, and I just couldn't resist.

>>23339782
Watchmen and most of Sandman yes, but not the others.
Actually, I really should finish that. I took the first couple of Sandman books out of the library years ago, but they didn't have many. The others, I will add to my list. Thanks!

>>23339626
>I have a tentacle fetish
>I have a giantess fetish
>I have a lactation fetish
>let's make a 20-feet tall lactating tentacled dryad
>Wait that won't be attractive, and how could we care for it in this place ?
>We could use giant and minotaur and kraken bits
>Minotaurs don't exist, kraken and giant bits are easy to find - let's buy those
>But it'll be very hard to protect a giant dryad
>Let's assume it won't be a giant then
>One month later, dad is securing the purchase of giant bone and kraken tentacles
>What if it's too big and aquatic
>Oh, stop it it's too late.

That was our thought process.

>>23339861
I hate to admit it, but this guy is right.

At the very least, we should really look into what those specific ingredients do. Don't put a stop on them, but make dryad research a major priority.

>>23339861
I like the bit where you make everyone but you look stupid.

That's my favourite part.

>>23339861
It was more of we wanted a sturdy bruiser that was strong enough to grapple gods.

The kraken tentacles were totally fetish stuff, though.

>>23339896
They WILL help with the grappling though.

Especially sexy grappling.

>>23339884
We've never found any resource that tells us what specific fertilizers do. We know they have an effect, but aside from that it's 100% guesswork. ANYTHING could ruin our potential daughter. Literally anything.

>>23339890
And how he ignores the part where people voted down using minotaur milk and succubus milk because it was retarded fetishy nonsense that had no potential payoff.

>>23339789
>You have absolutely no evidence to back up your line of thought
Now you're just being stupid.
Dryads take on some of the characteristics of the stuff used to fertilize them.
Krakens are big and aquatic, giants are giant, vampires have no eyes.
From that I'm saying that we have a big chance of ending up with an aquatic giant dryad, and that taking that kind of risk is unwise.
If you think that it's a baseless assumption, you're wrong.

>>23339923
I happen to like my OJ in the morning.

>>23339934
Vampires have eyes. Bats have eyes.
Her not having eyes is an odd mutation that is pretty much just FemCOCK fucking with us.

>>23339934
Just get over it dude. No-one but you is still moaning about this, we're making the Kraken/Jotunn, no matter how much you complain.

>>23339923
I don't remember that. We did ask dad for minotaur stuff, though.

>>23339952
At some point Fem posted a picture of a vampire skull that looked like it didn't have eye sockets.

>>23339952
suggesting that he will also fuck with us on the giantism front.

Mind you I don't care much for giantesses, a bit of a turn off, but w/e, it's only one of the characters.

I do however demand that all our girls fit inside our tower, so anything more that 10 feet or soo is far too big, and who knows where the dryad will actually stop.

>>23339934
>vampires have no eyes.
Vampires DO have eyes, which makes your reasoning even more unfounded since dryads seem to inherit the “essence” of the fertilizer more than the actual traits of them.

>>23338450
>And I still want a dryad particularily good at gardening, and if possible able to create animated constructs out of plants.

We should do what that other Lotus did - and use summoned Earth and Water elementals to grow it.
At least for ONE of our dryads.

Bear in mind that dryads are still, for the most part, dryad.

The ingredients modify them, but Selene wasn't just a Vampire/Incubus.

She was a dryad with some odd vampire and incubus features.

It's highly unlikely that any ingredients will alter a Dryad to such a degree that it is completely unrecognisable as such, like making it 50ft tall.

>>23340040
Dryads are plants
Trees are plants
Dryad giantess becomes tree-sized
How fit in tower?

>>23339997
I'm pretty sure Femcock said Vampire Lords do have eyes. I'd need his confirmation on that though.

>>23338988
After we're done with Breakfast give Dad our phone and clean up Breakfast a bit, we want her to be presentable when we show her our Daughter and lay down the rules.

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considering dad turned a cell into a garden for selene, i think this should be the next thing we make in the tower, a garden/room for selene to sleep/play peacefully
id prefer our daughter not sleep in a cell

>>23340070
That's an interesting and completely unfounded jump of logic right there.

You put your phone down on the table and wait for your dad to finish. "You call mom while I take Breakfast downstairs to establish some ground rules with her. Okay?" you ask your dad.

"Sure, Max," he says, sighing again. "I suppose she and I do have a lot to talk about."

Once he finishes, you help breakfast to clean up with a damp cloth, then head downstairs to the nursery while your father gets a call going. Selene is still sleeping soundly in her crib when you get there. Breakfast slinks slowly and quietly up to the crib and peers over the edge. Tears start forming in her eyes and she wipes them away. "A baby?" she asks.

"That's Selene, my daughter," you say, going up to stand beside her. "There are some rules you need to follow with her. Are you ready for them?"

She nods.

What rules must Breakfast follow in regards to your daughter(s)?

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>>23340070
>Dryad giantess becomes tree-sized
Bonsai tree
And thats how we got a dryad that is six inches tall and able to caber toss Thor

>>23340086
I like it, but remember, we're getting two other girls in there, they're probably going to bunk together, just due to space concerns.

>>23340102
Be very gentle with her
Sow her the food and tell her to feed her with it when she gets hungry
No sex play with or near the baby.

>>23340102
Don't touch her anus, vagina and clitoris, and don't make her touch yours.

>>23340102
Let's see.

No going on about cocks in front of her and no sex in front of her seem like good starting points.

>>23340138
These ones seem reasonable. Seconding.

>>23340105
>forced to cut her limbs periodically and restrict her food so that she doesn't grow

>>23340102
Nothing lewd around the baby. No saying the words cock, cunt, pussy, ass, or anything else related to sex. No propositioning me or anyone else for sex in front of the baby, no fondling the baby, if something seems wrong with Selene, come get us before you try to do anything yourself. Be gentle with her.

We should also ask why babies make her teary-eyed like that.

>>23340111
whats stopping us from making more rooms for them?
but if we do put them all together, ill make a pool for the kraken/giant, no reason for the dragonblooded one to sleep away form selene, she probably wont require anything extra

>>23340004
Well, kinda flipping back to fantasy, bug Haggrid is Half Giant, though he's freaking tall, its said he's not near tall as a giant (though they seem to only be a few stories, since they seemed to fight Haggrid but not do enough damage to really maim him. Expanding the haven would be a thing we'll need to do, since as he said, comfortable for two people. The jail cells not converted to garden areas can be changed to cozy bedrooms though.

COCK, can you give us a general layout of the place again? There's that enterance place with barbed wire, an armory, a kitchen (and a pantry?), a library, at least two bedrooms, the dungeons. How many sitting rooms is any? Where is Dad sleeping?

>>23340160
>implying that isnt someones fetish
You could probably handwave it with magic if you didnt want to be a sick fuck, though.

>>23340088
Completely unfounded? where?
adding giant bones and kraken tentacles (another giant creature) to a plant sounds like a great way to get a giant plant creature.

What giant plants are there in the world? Oh, that's right, trees.

>>23340160
mmmmm calamari

>>23340141
>Nothing about mouths
>Nothing about boobs
>Breastfeeding is still A-Okay

>>23340102
Make sure she knows not to do anything sexual to or around Selene, or proposition others for sex around her. At least until she's grown up.

>>23340102
Selene is not for Cock or Pussy. If Selene wants to play with Breakfast, unless Breakfast is busy getting drained, she is to play with her. Be gentle with her. Help feed and take care of her when you are able. If something seems strange with her inform either Max or Dimitri.

Make sure she knows that Selene is perfect and while she has no eyes she'll be fine.

>>23340148
>>23340138
Honestly I'm not sure about restricting sex near the baby, it's going to happen, Selene is going to wander about and there is often fucking in the kitchen and other public areas, that's just how this house runs. No sex with her yes, but not in front of her or where she can hear is completely unfeasible.

>>23340214
Well, yes, it would be.

>>23340162
>We should also ask why babies make her teary-eyed like that.

seems reasonable to me.
All the deep down mothering stuff, without the filters that keep Max's squee down to a manageable level. Plus maybe enough fragments stitched together to know that she won't have one.

>>23340102
let her hold seleene while pointing out the rules about being gentle and no cock, no pussy, etc. Let her feed the veggie-munchkin if she seems interested.

>>23340177
13 Clock Mechanisms
12 Workout Room
11 Sitting Room
10 Power Circle
9 Outbound Circle
8 Inbound Circle
7 Storage
6 Pantry
5 Kitchen
4 Bedroom
3 Sitting Room
2 Armory
1 Entrance
0 Prison

>>23340229
That was more a restriction on starting it in front of her rather than stopping whenever she came close.

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>>23340241
>Plus maybe enough fragments stitched together to know that she won't have one.

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>>23340241
>Plus maybe enough fragments stitched together to know that she won't have one
Dammit, femCOCK.

>>23340241
>>23340266
We can actually change that, all dad did was dissolve the tubes between her ovaries and womb, both are still intact, and we're learning living alchemy, we'll be able to fix it in the future.

>>23340162

This seems good.

>>23340218
>>23340162
>>23340148
>>23340138
Sex will happen around Selene, she'll hear it constantly. Trying to hide it from her and not have it happen in front of her might make her think it's something shameful or weird that we keep from her. It also won't work, people are going to keep having sex in common areas and Selene will be exploring the tower herself pretty shortly.

Not having sex with Selene is good, we don't want that, but trying to avoid having sex happen where she can 'see' it, not really feasible in the least, it'll just make Breakfast sad because she broke the rules.

>>23340266
WELP
Time for mindfuck practice!
>>23340253
I thought there was like two bedrooms?

The Dragoness Dryad, i like the idea of her being taught about weapons and fighting the most, teaching her how to repair and maintain guns as well, until she ends up sleeping in the Armoru out of habit.

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>>23340253
we should see about adding a garden for selene to that list
specifically one like this, just revised it

>>23340305
He does have a point.

Selene is going to grow up in a very sexually liberated house, but we also need to make sure she knows that it's not the same outside the tower, in case we ever take her outside.

Don't want her to suddenly try and fuck someone in a crowded place because that's what she was brought up to think was normal.

"First of all, try not to do anything too lewd around the baby," you say. "No cock, no pussy, no asking for sex, nothing like that. Especially don't fondle or do anything sexual to her. If something seems wrong with her, come get one of us, especially me or my father, before you try to do anything by yourself. Always be gentle with her."

"O... Okay," she says, sniffing and still looking down at her. "Can I touch now?"

What do you do?

>>23340501
Ask her why she's crying first.

>>23340501
Of course you can.

Hand Selene gently over to her.

Selene, this is Breakfast another member of our family She'll be here all the time with your Grandpa to help watch over you.

Hold Breakfast close with Selene for a bit.

>>23340501
Say yes. Tell her that unless there's something, we'd like her to stay close and take care of selene when she's awake.

>>23340501
Gently pick up Selene and hand her to Breakfast.

"If she wakes up she'll probably touch your face so she can remember it. She's a real sweetheart.

I have one question, why are you crying?"

>>23340585
i think it's karma coming back to bite us

earlier we had dad destroy her tubes because "this was no place to raise a child" and now we are raising one

>>23340624
Magic child with multiple pragmatic benefits and who will grow up far quicker than a normal baby would.

And Breakfast wouldn't make a good mother and I don't think the kid would be at all well adjusted knowing that their Mother was a mindbroken petslut.

>>23340624
Human children are different due to the length of time and energy required to raise them.

That being said, having her tubes destroyed is not an unfixable thing given our lotus membership, just something that should wait a few years.

>>23340671
>>23340667
Right, but she might not see that since shes, you know, Breakfast.

Selene's enchanting might be passively radiating something that stimulates motherly instincts.

in Breakfast's case it could be unconsciously making her aware that she cannot have babies (not until we find a way to fix it).

>>23340667
That last bit reminds me, we should do some work on her mind as practice, she'll still be our little petslut, but with some real intelligence, able to actually contribute to the running of the household.

>>23340707
for fuck sake
we have already done checks to see if shes affecting us
SHES NOT

>>23340707
We've already check our mind to see if we're getting messed with, maternal instincts are one hell of a thing man.

She's barely even born, she couldn't pull off something subtle and complicated like that. She's just too adorable and lovable for words.

>>23340624

fem has ALWAYS been good about making sure our actions have consequences.

Also, I think I realized why selene is blind. It isn't just predisposition because of vampirism.
It because we raised her underground. Away from the sun.
THATS why

If we want a dryad to grow things well, whatever we do, we should do it on the surface.

perhaps use teleportation to do it at our mom's house.

>>23340741
>>23340767

not exactly what i meant but whatever.

>>23340790
We had a hydroponics setup.

>>23340741
>for fuck sake
>we have already done checks to see if shes affecting us
>SHES NOT

You don't know that for certain - thralls don't question their newfound motives.
And its entirely possible that selene rolled higher than us. Unlikely, but tgdice are fickle, fickle bitches.

>>23340741
its also instinctual.
We want to care for the baby because we mentally believe it, deep down and out we want to care for Selena.
Its just a mother daughter thing, she's effecting us, but its just our own motherly instincts.

Really, dont worry about it. Max is smart enough to know its because she likes the whole 'mom' thing. The bonus is that the Terrible Twos only last a month, and soon she'll be as smart as us (and smarter likely)

>>23340810
>We had a hydroponics setup.

And no sun.

>>23340790
Every single Dryad born/grown in Scholomance won't have sunlight. It's part of Scholomance being in a massive fuckhuge cavern.

We gave her plenty of artificial sunlight and a good growing setup for it to be as not like underground as possible.

>>23340790
Then that would be common and we would have heard about it from domino. It wasnt the lack of sun

>>23340822
Sun lamp is about the same thing.

>>23340828
its just a cavern?
i thought it was a cavern that opened up into a fuckhuge area that dosnt exist when looked at from above

>>23340867
It's bigger on the inside than it should be, but it's still a massive cave with piles of buildings and so on in it, and no sunlight whatsoever.

>>23340888
what about other, non-natural lighting? an artificial sun?

>>23340905
Not sure of the specifics, FemCOCK would know, but it's all artificial and I don't think there's a Sun in here. We gave Selene plenty of light from lamps meant for this sort of thing, I don't think that's why she's blind.

>>23340888

I just assume that the standard "glowing crystals and luminous moss or fungus">>23340905
provided a murky twilight through the whole place, shading marginally up and down following a day&night pattern. Standard trope

>>23340955
oh cool
anyway

>>23340501
let her hold the baby and ask why shes crying

>>23340955
Huh, I just assumed with all the archmagi running around this place that a high level of sourceless ambient lighting existed. Not sure if the scholomance has day/night cycles though

Hey femCOCK, can we make a focus to mitigate drain, so we aren't limited to one spell per box?

>>23341006
She's probably crying because Selene has no eyes and Breakfast hasn't realized our daughter can echolocate

>>23341100
we cans speculate all we want but its easier for her just to tell us

>>23341076
Sure. It would mean the focus would absorb drain instead of providing you a bonus for that specific type of action.

>>23341208
K, also can permanent focuses be upgraded so that they can be used multiple times?

>>23341270
I'm not sure what you mean by multiple times, if it's a permanent focus then that obviously means that you can use it more than once.

>>23341325
I mean more than once per day, like right now our ring would be Mental Attack Focus (lvl1).

"Sure," you say, picking up Selene. "But why are you crying?"

Breakfast gives you a look of surprise. She looks at her hands, then wipes her eyes. "I... I don't know," she says, shakily. "I just... I really want to hold her."

You hand Selene to her carefully, and Selene wakes up and touches Breakfast's face as you do. Breakfast starts actual crying in short, choked sobs and nuzzles her cheek up against Selene.

What do you do?

>>23341352
You can already use them more than once per day. You can basically use them once per encounter, or once every hour or two.

>>23341369
That's the longest sentence Breakfast ever spoke.

>>23341387
Oh, I thought they were a 1 time per day deal for some reason.
Well then can they be upgraded to provide multiple dice in a single encounter?

>>23341369
Hug the Breakfast.

>>23341369
Oh god, now I feel kind of bad.

We need to make sure that Breakfast can be involved in helping raise all our dryads, so she can experience some motherhood at least. So we should train her on feeding them and looking after them.

>>23341369
Well, now we're going to have to give breakfast kids at some point in the future.

Selene, this is Breakfast. She's going to help take care of you. She's a very good girl. Later I'll introduce you to Gaviscon, who is usually a good elemental construct.

>>23341369
Hug breakfast, let her cry it out.

Way to tug the heartstrings, Femcock.

>>23341451
Gaviscon still has Unstable as a trait. I think we should get to fixing that.

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>>23341369
We're going to want to get some foci together and peruse Breakfast's skull in a bit. See how she's doing intelligence wise, what's causing this, if it's fixable without breaking other parts, and we want to improve Breakfast enough to help with raising since we'll not always be in the tower.

But for now, give Breakfast a hug while we gently play with our Daughter's hair, let Breakfast nuzzle.

"Selene, this is Breakfast. She is going to help take care of you, she's play with you and watch you if I'm not here. She's a good girl."

>>23341369
Let's go take a good hard look at Breakfast's mind.

It'd be one thing if we can't find shenanigans in our own head, but we should definitely be able to find something in Breakfast's barebones bimbo brain. If everything is legitimate and (relatively) normal there, then I'll feel a whole lot better about this whole situation.

>>23341369
Hug her and tell her it will be okay. Also >>23341451

>>23341473
...yeah potential emergency babysitter not exploding while Selene's playing with him should probably be on the priority to-do list

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>>23341369

>sentence structure
>I

>>23341473
Agreed, we really don't want Selene to get melted.

>>23341495
Let's let Breakfast get some hugging in, and then we gather Foci for it, always gather Foci for this sort of thing if you have a chance. It's free dice.

>>23341540
We should also grab dad, this is still practice and might go wrong

>>23341536
I noticed that too. She is getting smarter.

I second checking in Breakfast's head, though we should probably wait until she's not holding Selene, unless something goes wrong.

there is nothing wrong with our mind! we did a thorough check already and it was stated we are familiar with it from previous searches that we know our own mind so we weren't going in blind

I think this might be related to her freak-out during the vampire lord incident. She probably remembers enough at the subconscious level for the trauma of rape to cause her to freak out without knowing why, and she's probably just as aware that she's sterile now. She can't articulate why because its just remnants of things she experienced before.

>>23341632
You should really learn to read before you go dismissing a legitimate concern.

>>23341369
Warn breakfast about Selene's fangs and that our daughter might be a biter. We don't want Selene getting a taste for blood yet

>>23341641
Yes, we will check through her head, she's acting odd, not necessarily bad, but odd.

But we don't do it without our local Enchantment expert on hnad and a pile of Foci.

>>23341632
What are you talking about?

No-one is talking about Max's mind.

>>23341641
Or, and this is just my rampant paranoia talking, the vampire lord blood we used to help create Selene has given her the ability to enthrall people without even really trying at it - and either we missed it when we checked ourselves OR she had no need to enthrall us because the love was already very much there.

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>>23341641
I'd better read all the posts before wrinting mine next time. Sorry bout that. Have a baby seal.

>>23341686
As far as we know there is not passive magic, it all takes effort on the part of the caster.

>>23341702
the cuteness cortex of my brain just popped

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>>23341702
Could we make an extra cute dryad by feeding her small animals ?

>>23341947
Only if they were cute as a result of inherent magic on their part.

>>23341947
>implying Selene isnt adorable as fuck even with bearbat blood.

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>>23342047
>Not wanting a perma-loli dryad.

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>>23341990
Maybe by making her grow over a formerly animated doll ?

>>23342068
>>23342127
NOPE.jpg

>>23342127
I actually jerked back in fear when I opened that.

>>23342127
Let's stay on the fearboner side of things, that easily crosses the line into fucking creepy and not bonertastic.

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>>23341369
Oh look. It's started to rain. I vote to allow Breakfast a little more time holding Selene, then gently put her back in her cot and then probe Breakfast's mind a bit. She seems to be getting smarter, and all hell would break loose if she remembered who she was.

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>>23342127
Hell the fuck no.

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>>23342127
Or we could just toss a bunch of faries in a blender and fertilize her with their pureed remains.

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>>23342127
That is as creepy as fuck and you should think about what you've just said.

>>23342279
And she'd end up with wings in the bargain.
I could get being this.

>>23342279

Can we not add any more ingredients to either of them. Perhaps the fairy would've made sense when we were making the enchantment specialist, but that's done now.

>>23342302
The Dragon one will probably have wings already, you know.

>>23342193
That would be interesting to see her progressively get her personality back, I think.
We can always destroy her mind again, but maybe we could make literally grow into her situation, like a fictional cat growing in a jar and ending up espousing its shape.

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>>23342279
> Fairies in a blender
Damnit, sound association.

Are we all crystal clear about the potential problem a re-emergent Breakfast represents?

She was a devout catholic dextra domini aspirant. Further she is a hispanic female, embedded with the associated cultural morays.

She was raped by a demon, mind fucked, had her ovaries burned out and is currently being used as a lobotomized battery and cum catcher by two demons and a pair of bisexual/heteroflexible women.

If she ever, EVER figures that out, she will try to kill everyone in this tower.

Are there any ways to mitigate this that are not totally sociopathic?

>>23342351
We're already in totally sociopathic territory. Go back and read line 3 of what you've just said.

>>23342351
We should check her mind, and discuss it with dad.

We can fix this.

>>23342305
>Perhaps the fairy would've made sense when we were making the enchantment specialist, but that's done now.
and when it wasn't done people bitched at the very idea of discussing ingredients

>>23342344
True, but those will be powerful, massive beaters of the air, not fine, delicate, shimmering blurs that she uses to flit about the tower.

>>23342351
Her fallopian tubes were severed, thats somewhat reversable.

>>23342351
It's a little late for that, I'd say the best thing we can do now would be to discuss with dad about stripping away any residual memories she has that are causing these reactions.

>>23342351
I hope she does kill you degenerates in the most dramatic and non-sexual way possible.

>>23342345
And maybe we can guide that growth to where she never regains her memories or hatred of demons, but she becomes smarter than bricks.

>>23342351
I think the least sociopathic way is to keep her as a regular prisonner, physically restrained, until we're done with our education.

>>23341675
For foci, a pencil, paper with an equation written on it, disposible contacts, any psychotropic medication we have in the house, small among of coffee, newspaper...stuff related to thought and sight for looking at her mind and related to thought, memory and logic for modifying her mind. If any one else can think of potential foci lying around the house, feel free to post 'em.

>>23342351
I doubt that's what's happening here. She's gotten more intelligent recently because Dimitry patched some more parts of her mind together - but he also added some brand new things from whole cloth.

Even if somehow her mind was regrowing, she wouldn't grow back into the same person she was. That person was a sociopath herself, and she's effectively dead now.

>>23342426
We don't want her questioning things.

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>>23342426
Oh, you know what they say, hate is very close to love.

>>23342351
She wont regain her old memories. Those were torn out and destroyed. She might become more like her old self, but she wont regain her memories or her hatred of demons unless we give her a reason to hate them.

Which we have, but she has no memory of it.

>>23342351
Yes, we know it's a problem. That's why after we let her get some cuddles in with Selene we get our Dad, get some Foci, and see what's happening in her meatbrains.

A bit of intelligence is useful, lets her do chores and keep an eye on Selene while we're out. But we need to make sure she stays subservient, compliant, loving, cock-hungry, and not particularly religious or likely to question her situation. It's a very fine line to walk.

>>23342448
Hmm, mirrors or broken glass might work. A crossword/sudoku puzzle.

Our cum is almost always a good focus when it comes to Enchantment, it just is, so we could use that as well.

fuck
ive been gone for an hour and femcock has only added on more peice to the story

stop arguring so damn much!

>>23342564
Femcock generally only adds something new once an hour, since he's quite often "distracted".

>>23342534
>Our cum is almost always a good focus when it comes to Enchantment, it just is, so we could use that as well.

So just give her a facial before we start?

>>23342564
Are you >implying that the arguing keeps him from posting ?

>>23342564
We have come to a decision, that is let her get some cuddles in with Selene before getting her to our Father and working with him on seeing what's going in her head and molding it if need be.

We're not really arguing.

You give Breakfast a warm hug. "Hey, it's okay," you tell her, stroking her hair. "It's okay."

"Okay..." she says, still crying. She's treating Selene extremely gently.

You think that now would be a good time to check out Breakfast's mind. She's been acting a little unusual lately.

Roll Enchantment. I'll take the first three linked 1d100 rolls.

>>23342564
We have a consensus on our next course of action, we are just discussing further down the line to occupy ourselves.

Rolled 77

>>23342635

Rolled 99

>>23342635
Can we wait a tiny bit and get some Foci together for this?

Rolled 73

inb4 nat 1

Rolled 46

>>23342635
Rolling

Rolled 66

>>23342635

>>23342664
>>23342660
>>23342656
Well, uh, good enough.

Guess we don't need any Foci, we're just a lean mean Enchanting Machine.

Rolled 87

>>23342635

>>23342660

we can see forever now

Rolled 6

>>23342656
>>23342660
>>23342664
Yeah I think we're good.

>>23342656
>>23342660
>>23342664
Fuck yeah!

>>23342664
>linked rolls
Way to waste a 73

>>23342347
Why is it that weird subcultures have cool music?

>>23342656
>>23342660
>>23342664

What just happened here?

>>23342351 Here.

Fair points, I'm simply wondering about the way forward. If she cannot recover her memories, we run the risk of her looking back at what has occurred as she develops her intelligence further and still gets pissed at how she's being used.

Provided we can control the presentation of information and the environment, I think it's possible to restore her to full mental function, and have her as a /willing/ participant in our enterprise. In the long term, this and/or killing her are the only secure options.

>>23342710
Darn, oh well

>>23342656
>>23342660
>>23342664

Man we are just an enchanting prodigy, aren't we?

>>23342656
>>23342660
You poke around in her head. It doesn't look like anyone new has been poking around in there, nor does it look like she's starting to rebuild what she lost. Rather, it looks like she's been learning, picking up more English now that her mind's been rebuilt enough for rudimentary learning. There are still some fragments of herself left - the desire to have and care for children, for example - but it doesn't look like anything unexpected.

What do you do now?

>>23342821
Enchanting and punching, that's Max Power

>>23342849
Study some sorcery with Liz or Lin, we need to tick that box.

We need to increase her submissive tendencies or we are going to have problems down the road.

>>23342849
Teach her how to feed the baby.

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>>23342849
Concentrate and start lactating.