For now we should stay with Selene, but in the long term we're going to have to figure out some sort of rota if we haven't already for looking after her, as we don't want to start falling behind in studying because we're being a mother full time.

Put her to bed and go study, we need to get Sorcery down.

hey

>>23319954
Oh hey there Femcock.

I got you a present: http://pastebin.com/0E2m9kJ0

Was going to post it last night, but I crashed out just before the thread ended.

Hope you like it.

>>23320009
We have something for the Dryad to sleep in right?

>>23320009
We can study quietly, so we should stay with her while she sleeps and read one of our Sorcery books or something.

FUCK YES, made it in time for once. All hail FemCOCK.

Stay with our daughter while plotting up an idea for a schedule as to who will watch her and when. Can't actually solidify anything without the others in on it, but we can think of the framework. Dote on our baby girl.

Rolled 78

>>23319954

well put her to seep and get a good work out in till liz gets up

>>23319954
Put her to sleep then study Sorcery, we don't have a full box in it yet.

>>23319954
Motherly instinct notwithstanding, can we get our dad to check if the dryad has done anything to us? We used a pile of things with mind magic after all, I wouldn't be surprised if it 'installed' the motherly instinct naturally as a survival measure or something.

>>23320022
...I might be a little distracted during this thread now.

>>23320156
We can check that ourselves, we don't need to go running to dad every time.

We do have 3 boxes of Enchantment now.

>>23320195
Oh, I finished something, too. You might be really distracted, now.

http://pastebin.com/CW2xC0CK

>C0CK
Pastebin has spoken.

>>23320156
While I would like to know this too, I wouldn't be all that upset if that's the case.

After all, we magically install in people a desire to fuck as our own survival measure.

>>23320218
I love it, save for a very small point. No sun shines into the clocktower. Scholomance is entirely underground.

>>23320295
Right, I forgot about that. That's what I get for shitting out smut at two in the morning.

I say we give Selene the cuddles.
Have we got all the ingredients for her sisters yet?
My vote is still for raising them as good kids and not our sex toys, but you know, I can deal with it.

>>23320195
I've still got the third Max/Dimitry scene to go, the full on anal one.

After that, who knows, I was all geared up to write Max and Gaviscon back when I thought it wasn't going to happen, but then it did.

I'm sure I'll think of something.

>>23320323
Dimitry/Liz NTR?

You cuddle Selene for a while, the put her to bed. You prepared an approximation of a nursery in the sitting room closest to the bedroom. Nothing too permanent - after all, in just a few months she'll no longer even remotely fit in a crib, and a few months after that she'll need a full-sized bed. You put her in her little bed, make sure she's nice and warm, then turn on the hydroponics light that your dad installed over the crib. She coos as the warmth and the UV rays hit her skin. You give her a little kiss, then head back up to the other sitting room.

You want to study - you still haven't managed to figure out any Sorcery. You're great at Enchantment, which comes as no surprise, really, but you're getting too specialized, and you know you're getting a little negligent of Conjuration and especially Sorcery. But then you consider something.

You hadn't expected to be so... overcome with motherly instincts. You don't feel like that's at all like you. Is the baby instilling them on you somehow? She is naturally gifted at Enchantment, isn't she? And you did figure out a bit of Enchantment entirely by instinct before you ever so much as opened a magic book.

You decide to check yourself.

Roll Enchantment. You get a +1 from your Focus augmentation, so I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 5

>>23320363
Hmm, I'm not a massive NTR fan, but maybe. I'll give it some thought.

>>23320381
Let's rock. By which I mean let's roll a 1

>>23320308
I believe we decided to raise them as good kids, but the sex was inevitable and we're kinda gunna have to do it.

Rolled 91

>>23320381
Balls.

>>23320308
Good kids have sex too...

>>23320043
This.

Also, suddenly feel frightened about our maternal instinct. This is not a good place to raise a child, after all, and we're pretty young to be a mother.

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>>23320295
tried to draw selene today. this quest is starting to menace my thesis

Rolled 89

>>23320381
Come ooon.

Rolled 81

>>23320381
Lets find out whats going on here

Rolled 30

>>23320381
rolin

>>23320396
We're not raising them as sex toys, we're just helping guide them through every part of growing up.

Every part.

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>>23320405
>>23320414
>>23320416
Aw yis.

Rolled 81

>>23320416
>>23320414
>>23320405
at least we'll know for sure.

>>23320395
I quite hate it, but it would be fun to watch everyone get mad.

>>23320432
I can't believe we waited so long for such a short VN.
Translation when?

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>>23320409
Paler skin and flatter eye sockets. She barely even has a brow ridge. Wider ear-leaves too - less elf, more bat. Aside from that, look good. It's going in my BF Quest image folder along with everything else produced by you guys.

Her skin is about the tone of white dogwood berries. The red veins in the leaves are good, though, I was picturing them as having veins a bit like certain breeds of rhubarb, just blood-crimson instead of the sort of purple-red that rhubarb tends to get.

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>>23320409
WHAT HAVE WE DONE

>>23320469
Never. The guy working on it is working solo and refuses to let others take a stab at it.

>>23320493
It's Takajun isn't it? That lazy faggot need to give me my Miyako route already.

>>23320504
No, I don't think it's Takajun. It's just...some guy. Takajun is too busy not doing things to take on another project.

>>23320490
Mother fucker, you got a problem with our perfect little angel?

>>23320448
>it would be fun to watch everyone get mad.
I think you actually wouldn't appreciate that.

>>23320517
Fucking Takajun.
Oh well, the guys who read jap on /vn/ said it was mediocre anyway.

>>23320537
Why not?

>>23320409
>eyebrows
>no eyes to brow

>>23320539
Yeah, I've heard. I just want to read it because I'm a little slut for Type-Moon. I'm not surprised it's mediocre, given he wrote it back when he was in high school, if I recall correctly.

>>23320405
>>23320414
>>23320416
You meditate for a few minutes, examining your mind in detail. You've gotten quite familiar with the workings of your own mind, and have the focus to do it well. You find the maternal instincts thriving, which are relatively new and unusual, but you don't find any trace at all of them being foreign to your mind, and even if Selene is a natural at Enchantment, you doubt that she could pull off something so seamless without at least some training.

It looks like they're entirely natural. That makes you feel all warm inside, but also really girly. You scoff internally at yourself, but can't help but smile. You're thinking of her as your perfect little girl because, well, she's your perfect little girl.

Now that that's sorted, you break out your introductory text book and start reading up on Sorcery. So far, it's a subject that you're just, well, not at all good at. Still, that might just be because you've been neglecting it.

Roll Mind. You get a +1 from your Focus augmentation, so I'll consider the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 1

>>23320570
Well, Im relieved. Lets get cracking.

Rolled 76

>>23320570

>>23320561
It's okay anon, we're all cum sluts for Type-moon's work.
When they reward us with things like carnival phantasm it's hard not to be.

Rolled 14

>>23320570
Rolling

Rolled 35

>>23320570
INB4 this goes horribly.

Rolled 20

>>23320598
God fucking damn it

Rolled 15

>>23320570

Rolled 12

>>23320570

>>23320598
>>23320609
>>23320611
TGdice are in an awfully sadistic mood today.

Rolled 74

>>23320524
Yes, she looks like a manure golem.

>>23320598
This thread is off to a promising start...

>>23320634
Well, at least we didn't critfail a bullet dodge (Now that I said it it's going to happen isn't it?)

>>23320570
Basically, we're wired to take care of babies regardless of whether or not they're biologically ours.

It's why puppies and kittens make us squee and dote, too. SCIENCE!
>>23320598 1
>>23320603 76
Fucking hell.

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>>23320598
Guess we're still the jock.

does anyone else find 4chan better at certain times of the day?

>>23320598
>>23320603
You realize after a while that you're just reading the same sentence over and over and processing none of it. You try to pay attention, but your eyes just slide right off the page. It's just so boring!

You sigh and put the book away. You're not getting anywhere with that right now. Maybe Liz can help you study later, when she wakes up. After all, today is going to be Sunday, so nobody should have anything pressing to do. You go make yourself a cup of coffee - you had only gotten an hour and a half of sleep, instead of the full two hours, so you're feeling a bit tired.

"You get one of those for me, too?" asks Lin as you sit down with it. You consider it for a moment, then hand Lin your mug and go make yourself a second one. When you come and sit back down, Lin says, "They grow about the equivalent of a human year each month until they're adults, you know. She should be speaking by the end of this month. I'm going to teach her Mandarin, if you don't mind. Knowing additional languages has always been useful for me."

What do you say?

>>23320692
We've still got more blocks of magic than Liz, we've apparently just got some kind of derp going with sorcery.

>>23320693
It's a fact that night time posting is still of higher quality, generally 6 hours before now to 2 hours before now is the best time.

>>23320693
Yes. At some times of the day, Europeans are asleep. At some times of the day, American high schoolers are in school. At some times of the day, various nationalities are at work. What time it is can dramatically affect the makeup of any given board, and similarly affect the quality of the board for given tasks.

>>23320702
Sounds like a good idea. We should be teaching her as much as we can while she's still in the best development stage for it, since they grow so fast.

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>>23320731
The best time is obviously when it's just us Aussies out in action eh?

>>23320731
>At some times of the day, Europeans are asleep.

Unless you stay up until retarded o'clock in the morning for this quest like I do.

Good thing I don't work first thing.

>>23320731
Europeans?

>>23320702
One month to learn multiple languages? I approve, but the kids going to be speaking english and chinese in the same sentence all the time.

And Breakfast can't teach her spanish. Pity.

>>23320751
I'm American, I just don't work in the office most days.

Mmmmm, Max making coffee made me want to make some tea. My pet got us some raw honey that I want to try using as a sweetener. I'll be right back.

>>23320769
So it'll be like Firefly.

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>>23320474
like that? or does she need bigger ear?

>>23320767
Mythical creatures from across the sea.

Rolled 25

>>23320702
Hmm, maybe we should see what languages dad can teach her

>>23320755
I do the same thing for HPquest, for the adorables.

>>23320799
Some say the Americans descended from this lost peoples.

But such things are pure superstition, of course.

>>23320784
What time is it over there for you claps anyway?

>>23320702
Ask for a bit of help on what we don't understand with sorcery. She has a block and a half.

I don't like to give up after a failure.

>>23320797
You didn't actually need to lighten the leaves. The leaves and her flesh are two different colors. The only change I would suggest to the ears is to have them less meet with a stalk on the side of the head and meet more like actual ears. They're less truly leaves and more extremely leaf-like.

>>23320829
It's 12:30 in New York.

>>23320829
I'm in Minneapolis, so almost noon.

>>23320755
Yeah it usually finshes around 4-5am for me I think, but I can never force myself to sleep until it's done xD <_<

>>23320848
Oh wow, it really is past time for me to pass out.
Fem, is it gonna be a slow nice session or are important things gonna happen? I'll pass out depending on your answer.

>>23320829
Central timezone here, so almost noon. I have an Accounting exam in three and a half hours.

This quest is distracting me. Badly.

>>23320880
Depends on whether or not you guys decide to do important things or if you take it nice and slow.

>>23320827
Everyone knows Jesus was the first true American, and all others are descended from him.

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>>23320895
Fuck it I'm going to sleep, my vote as always is for cuddles and non-sexual child raising.
Have a good one.

>>23320918
I really doubt that we're going to get to Selene being grown up today.

"Sounds like a plan to me," you say, giving her a wide grin. "I wonder what languages my dad can teach her."

"I know he mentioned speaking Hindi, Russian, Spanish, and Arabic," Lin lists off, counting on her fingers. "Plus, we know he speaks English and we've chatted in Mandarin before. He speaks an old dialect, though."

"Huh. I wonder how many languages she can handle learning," you say.

"No clue."

"Hey, could you help me out? I'm trying to get some Sorcery studying in, but nothing is clicking."

"Sure, I can help you out," she says, coming over and leaning over the side of the chair.

Roll Mind to study. You get a +1 from your Focus augmentation and a +1 from Lin helping you out, so I'll count the first five linked 1d100 rolls.

>>23320908
>This is what Mormons actually believe
>>23320702
"Sounds like a plan. Have anything planned for today yet?"

>>23320755
Actually it starts at 7 PM and I'm in the +2 area. Most of EU is +/-0 and +1.

Rolled 11

>>23320932

Rolled 65

lets get this done

>>23320702
As an American, does Max have any grasp of Spanish?

Rolled 1

>>23320932
Boom goes the dynamite

Rolled 5

>>23320932
Come on Max, get it together.

Rolled 69

>>23320932
TRY AGAIN.

FAIL AGAIN.

Rolled 34

>>23320932
proper linked

Rolled 37

>>23320932

Rolled 89

>>23320932
WE CAN DO IT!

>>23320958
Welp.

>>23320958
Oh fucking really now?

Rolled 29

>>23320958
you stop rolling this instant

>>23320958
Damnit guys. The critfails are strong today.

>>23320958
Two critical failures in a row?

Seriously?

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>>23320958
BOOK MAKE MAX MAD

MAX SMASH PUNY BOOK

>>23320958
Bahaha.

>>23320958
Sweet god damn fuck. That's it. I'm going to go find that conniving slut TGD, and I'm going to spank her until she starts crying.

>>23320958
I know you're not responsible, but I'm still blaming you.

>>23320958
Does this mean we get worse at it?

Rolled 21

>>23320932
Cue second critfail

>>23320958
It's official, we're going to reach the end of the seven years and still not have filled in our single box of Sorcery.

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>>23320958

>>23320218
Just finished reading that, very good.

You put my writing to shame.

>>23320958
You end up getting so frustrated by your inability to figure this Sorcery bullshit out that you end up just closing the book, dropping it on the ground, and saying, "Fuck this, I'm done."

Lin frowns at you and just goes back to meditating. She was getting pretty frustrated by you too.

What do you do now?

>>23321032
Cuddle Liz in frustration
>LIIIIZ! A book just made fun of me! Twice!

Rolled 83

Well, I think we need to meditate now.

>>23321032
Go work out, clearly Max needs to do something she's good at.

In b4 another nat 1 and we strain something.

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>>23321024
Aww, you got me all in a titter now. You're such a cutie.

>>23321032
Take a furious dump and then go kick the shit out of a tree or something.

>>23321032
Go freerunning

>>23320932
I think you should change the rules so that 1s only become critical failures when there's no successful roll, like in this particular case.
It would solve the problem of an increasing chance of failure that comes with a bigger pool (especially over 10 dice like we saw last thread).

>>23321032
Please tell me we have a heavy bag now so Max can go destroy it.

Not particularly related to the situation at hand unless we want it to be.

It just occurred to me that I don't recall us ever trying out Breakfast's ass.

Could me make a ward/self enchantment against bad luck? I think we might need it

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>>23321069
Furious Breakfast buttsex. Get on it.

>>23321032
Either work out or practice tai chi until calm, check on Selene then meditate for awhile

>>23321062
Let's assume you have basic workout/sparring equipment in that empty room near the top of the tower, including mats, a heavy bag, and some free weights.

>>23321073
This, some sort of enchantment ward which lets us ignore our first nat 1 each day or something.

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>>23321087
I don't think we're ready for those peaches.

>>23321055
Actually, for the first fail, we had one success. So that was cancelled out by the crit fail, resulting in a fail.

This time we had no success. Only the crit fail.

>>23321032
Tell Lin sorry for losing our temper, then meditate with her.
Try to concentrate on the feeling of our own energies, and how we manipulate them, as a model for sorcery.

>>23321087
Sounds good to me. Let's work out some frustration banging the fuck out of Breakfast's big latina ass.

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>>23320834
hopefully this one is correct, because I have to go.

>>23321098
No, we need to go work out our frustration for a bit before we're ready to meditate again, and we've got the equipment to do it.

>>23321087
>>23321107
I think we should work on maintaining our cool in all situations, instead of venting after losing it. We seem to get frustrated and stuck much too often.

Let's meditate on that.

Rolled 56

>>23321092
Please this. We clearly require it.
>inb4 we critfail the ward, making us critfail the first roll of each day

>>23321069
>>23321087
>>23321107
Sounds good to me.

Breakfast anal to drain some energy, work out some frustration and calm ourselves down.

Then we can try studying again.

>>23321131
The concern I have with this is we could hurt Breakfast in our current mindset.

>>23321155
We just turn her pain receptors into pleasure ones.

It looks like the consensus is either waking Breakfast up to fuck her ass or going and having a nice workout. Which one are you guys going for?

>>23321174
Both. Though not at the same time.

>>23321174
Why not both? Why not Zoidberg?

Rolled 87

workout. better to work out our frustrations rather then risk hurting Breakfast

>>23321174
Workout first, then fuck Breakfast in the ass.

Once we've done both, we'll be ready for more studying.

>>23321187
This.

>>23321174
work out to clear our head then get back on the books

>>23321174
Fuck Breakfast in the ass while doing squatz.

>>23321174
I'm voting workout. Let her sleep.
>>23321172
Which still leaves injuries and might just kill her ability to feel any pain, which is a very bad thing.

Work out first.

Get energy back from Breakfast after.

>>23321174
Both, if we work out first then we won't be frustrated enough to hurt Breakfast by the time we get to dat ass.

>>23321230
This.

>>23321230

Agreed; this one.

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>>23321197
>fuck Breakfast while working out
>use the energy from Breakfast to work out longer

I think Fem got distracted again.

You decide to work out for a while to blow off some steam. You head on up to where you've set up an exercise room. There are free weights, a heavy bag, mats, and a few other times.

Roll Body to exercise. I'll take the first four linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 29

>>23321767

Rolled 47

>>23321767
Ha ha, time for crit fails.

Rolled 32

>>23321767

Rolled 99

>>23321767
How's the tea there, buddy?

>>23321785
Oh thank god we're not horrible at everything

Rolled 43

>>23321767
Dice

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>>23321785
Oh thank the lord I didn't roll like shit for once.

>>23321793
We're Max. No matter how badly we fuck up the magic, we'll always be good at hitting things.

>>23321785
She likes the honey.

You hit the heavy bag for a while. Between your reinforced flesh and your augmented strength, its seams are threatening to burst, as they have been for the past couple of weeks. Still, after a while, you manage to tire yourself out a bit and work up a good sweat. You miss the feeling of getting your knuckles sore, though. Maybe you'll be able to get to work on those bells at the Lotus sanctum soon...

What do you do now?

>>23321841
Right then, on to Breakfast.

Time to try out dat ass.

Can't believe we never thought of it before.

>>23321841
I believe the consensus was going from pounding the bag to pounding Breakfast's ass

>>23321841
Time for some good ol' fashioned butt-fuckin' with the pet. Afterwards, we should hold on to her and force her to spell out how much she enjoyed it and why.

>>23321841
Let's find Breakfast, get some Breakfast, if you know what I mean, and we can have a bit of cuddles with her afterwards, make sure she enjoyed it, feels cared for, all of that.

>>23321908
This

>>23321908
yea catch up on that 1/2 hour of sleep by draning

today is the day of failure, lets get downright nasty with breakfast

You head back downstairs to where Breakfast is lying curled up with Gaviscon, sleeping. Lin looks over at you and you flash her a smile before touching Breakfast's should and shaking her slowly awake. "Mmm... Max?" she asks, sitting up and rubbing her eyes. "Is the baby here now?"

"Yes. She's beautiful. Her name's Selene," you say, rubbing Breakfast's hair. She purrs happily at the attention.

"Can Breakfast see her?" she asks, rubbing her cheek against your hand.

"Later. She's asleep right now," you say, moving your hand lower to slowly pinch and knead Breakfast's ass. "I want to relax and have some fun."

"Pussy?" asks Breakfast, spreading her legs immediately. She's already wet.

"Ass," you say, holding up a little bottle of lube.

She bends over, her face buried in the blankets where Gaviscon is still resting, and reaches back to spread out her cheeks. "Here you go," she says, turning to look back and smiling at you. Her pussy is positively drooling, and you can see that she's relaxing her ass for your. You lube up your cock, stroking it slowly, and lube up her asshole, even sliding in a finger to make sure she's nice and ready. She shudders as you do, slowly squeezing and unsqueezing around your finger.

You place the head of your cock against her asshole, then slowly push it in, meeting little resistance until you're about half-way in and she starts squeezing around you. She doesn't even try to keep from moaning.

How do you continue?

>>23322276
Go to town on Breakfast, ask Lin if she wants in.

>>23322276
Pet Gaviscon, he deserves some attention too.

beat the hell out of her, in an endearing way

>>23322276
drain her then get back to studying

>>23322372
Seconding

>>23322276
Once we get all the way in pick her up and lift her up and down on our cock, use our other hand to play with her pussy, tits, and so on. Make sure to give her some licking, kissing, gentle love biting, that sort of thing, slide some fingers into her mouth and have her suck on them.

While we're doing this tell her to describe exactly how it feels, how much she loves it, how cared for she feels, get some feedback.

>>23322394
This.

>>23322276
Tantric meditation on sorcery.

>>23322276
"Do you like it up the ass, Breakfast? Which do you like more--in your pussy or your ass? You can tell me. Personally, I love both of them."

"Inside or outside, pet? I'll let you decide. I love when your ass squeezes down on me as I fill it up, and I love seeing that happy grin when I paint your face. I'll do either of them for you, it doesn't matter to me."

All the while, drain her a good bit to make up for expenditure of energy. Once we finish up, give some studying one last shot. Maybe in Alchemy this time.

>>23322394
>slide some fingers into her mouth and have her suck on them.
You read my work, didn't you~.

>>23322404
good plan we are the zen of sex

>>23322440
Yes, I admit that's where the idea came from this time.

I've always found girls sucking on fingers like that to be hot and may have suggested it without you, maybe. But I did like your work.

>>23322433
This is also good.

>>23322404
>Roll 1
>Dick bursts into flames

So does anyone else have John de Lancie voicing Dimitry in their head?

>>23322475
>I've always found girls sucking on fingers like that to be hot
I admit that I developed a fondness for it after that one scene in Tsukihime with Hisui, and this one scene in an untranslated nukige called えれくと!where the nee-san character did some finger fondlin'. It really grew on me.

>>23322500
I have that angel guy from Supernatural in my head.

Don't be too violent with her ass. We don't want her to be in real pain.

>>23322516
Aaaand now so do I.

You pick her right up off the ground and let one hand explore her body as you slide her up and down your cock. "Tell me how you like it," you whisper to her.

"Uh... What~?" she asks dreamily. You stroke her pussy, rub her clit.

"Do you prefer it in your ass your your pussy?" you ask.

"P... Pus~sy..." she whimpers. She doesn't seem embarrassed, just pleased to have an answer for you.

You rub slowly up her body, playing with her big breasts, her sensitive nipples, her soft lips. "Where do you like me to cum? Inside of you? On your chest? Your face? In your mouth?" you ask, trusting a little harder.

"Inside..." she gurgles happily as you pound her ass. You kiss her neck, her ears, even give her a few bites that are sure to leave marks for at least the next few hours. She gives pleasurable little yelps of pain when you do, moaning all the harder afterwards. You push your finger tips against her mouth, sliding in two of your fingers to let her tongue curl around and stroke them. She seems to enjoy it, because every time you try to pull your fingers away, she sucks harder.

You keep pounding her ass hard for a while, not trying to drag it out for too long. You want to drain her an have a good time, but not have a marathon of it. Soon, you feel your cock expand slightly, and Breakfast's ass clench down hard, as you start cumming. Her mouth hangs open around you fingers, tongue lip and eyes rolled back, and she cums in turn.

How do you continue?

>>23322716
Is it too late to start draining?

>>23322737
Balls, I knew there was something I forgot to include. You take a big sip right near the end.

>>23322716
drain to the MAX then clean us both up and then get back to studying refreshed

>>23322716
I think we can consider Max to have well and truly calmed down by now.

So back to studying.

>>23322716
Keep her on our cock for a bit, call her a good girl, reassure her, tell her that she's a beloved pet, give her some scritches behind the ears, once she feels properly loved and pet-like tuck her back into bed.

>>23322716
Hold her gently while she comes down, then get to work studying up a way to create magical eyes for our daughter.

>>23322825
We won't get that any time soon, if we want that we study lots of stuff and then work on trying to put together a big project like that.

For studying I think we should work on Alchemy, give Sorcery a break. Meditate on it, we're good at meditation.

>>23322716
Drain her, then go say sorry to Lin about getting frustrated and quitting.

Can we see Gaviscon's sheet ? We could work on upgrading it.

Alternatively, I want to start enchanting ourself to have a prehensile penis.

>>23322867
That would be why we start it as soon as possible, wouldn't it?

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>>23322890
We don't have the tools, foci, or skills needed for that yet.

>>23322716
Get Breakfast and yourself cleaned up, then go do some more Sorcery studying.

Hopefully we're in the right mindset for it now.

>>23322907
Let's try to give it functional wings. Liz can probably help. Pratice might be a better way to learn for us than reading.

>>23322945
And researching what would be needed for the eyes would in fact tell us what we need, which we could then make, now wouldn't it?

>>23323004
the wings aren't functional?

>>23322890
We already started, by working on other things to improve our skill. Better practice morrning jogs before trying a marathon.

>>23323025
I think they're not, since it couldn't fly during the exam. Did that change ?

>>23322887
I think we should wait to work on Gav with Liz in the morning - stabilize the acid elemental and (if that goes well) add an air elemental focus for speedy flight or a metal elemental focus so it can help with base repairs/upgrades. For now check on Selene (in our breakfast woke her) and then work on alchemy.

>>23323025
>>23323004
The wings are functional, it's not going to be flying across any oceans, but it can fly.

>>23323057
It didn't have enough space to get up and going.

>>23323057
i thought that was because of the tunnel

You lower her back down without pulling out of her yet. You give her back some nice, long strokes and rub her ears. She arches her back, stretches, and purrs at the attention. You finally pull out of her and go to get yourself cleaned off. She follows you and rubs up against you as you go, but she's looking sleepy again. You did take a pretty big bite.

When you're done, you head back upstairs and take a seat. Breakfast yawns, stretches, and goes back to curl up with Gaviscon. "I'm sorry I got upset before," you tell Lin. You feel kind of silly now that you've had some time to cool down.

"It's okay, Max," she says, putting aside her book. "I know how frustrating it can be."

You start considering what to do next. You kind of want to continue studying - you still need to learn some sorcery, and there are a few different projects you have in mind for various purposes. You should also probably check on Selene at some point, and you know you have time to treat Liz to another breakfast in bed if you wanted.

What do you do?

>>23323033
Better to learn what we need that randomly build everything and try to get what's needed by chance.

To put it in your terms, if you're training for a marathon, going to the gym for a full body work out is pointless, you need to train cardio and running.

This isn't something that we can wait years on, if she's going to develop the ability to process sight, she's going to need to do it early on, which means we need to focus on exactly what's needed.

>>23323099
well, we could give her cyborg eyes or something.
but not creepy ones
cute and cuddly cyborg eyes that run on jizz, and since that clit is going to become a penis shell probably have plenty of it

>>23323087
How long would it take to make a meditation focus? How hard would it be?

Given that meditation is a very versatile thing and is how we give ourself permanent buffs getting a free +1 to it would make our life a lot easier.

We can use some incense, a bowl of clear placid water (to represent an empty mind), and maybe a few other things to help us with this bit.

>>23323087
Figure out how to make a pair of goggles for our dryad baby that'll let her see.

>>23323125
That's what I was saying, the magical item that sees for her bit, that I mentioned in the very first post of the chain, that we need to look up what would be needed to make them work, so we can actually make them for her quickly.

>>23323087
Check up on Selene, then get to studying. How long do we have until class?

>>23323099
>if she's going to develop the ability to process sight, she's going to need to do it early on
I think that for a creature born without eyes, doing it early on or later doesn't make much difference, her brain won't develop the missing parts more easily.

>>23323087
By curiosity, what would have happened if we had added a bit of succubus? Would that have made her more humanoid ?

>>23323138
to the library
also lets find something for the librarian

>>23323157
It's going to be a Sunday.

>>23323173
The effects of making her part-succubus wouldn't have been very obvious until she started maturing.

>>23323156
well, flight goggles for sure, gotta be stylish see
and an optic nerve would probably be good too, maybe a whole brain

>>23323087
Go back at studying until we get it. Ask Dad's help if he's available.

>>23323173
People born without eyes aren't missing the visual cortex of their brain, why should a dryad?

And how soon it happens is the most important thing of all, as after development finishes it becomes impossible to learn things like that.

>>23323156
Think about it, the foci would be quite simple. A blindfold cut in two, two eyeballs, a palate covered in paint for color, and a ruler for depth.

>>23323194
>wouldn't have been very obvious until she started maturing.
So you're saying we wouldn't know until everyone in the house started passing out at random intervals, then. Because if we mixed Incubus and Succubus together like that, I imagine that might make them unisex in their targets.

>>23323209
Alternatively you can go with a prism for color.

>>23323209
We still need the materials to make her sexy sleek cybergoggles though. We don't want our daughter wearing a crude blindfold all the time.

>>23323209
Yeah, but do they need to be "animate" with some sort of intelligence for her to tap into? Or do they need to have some sort of power source? They might need to be specialized for her specifically or some other stuff that I haven't thought to question yet.

>>23323138
>>23323156
Honestly, I think that making something like that is too big for us at our current level. And definitely something we will want our Dad to help on, considering that he's better with Enchantment, and this is going to be heavily Enchantment based. It's not anywhere as simple as anything we've already done.

Also, she's not even a day old, I'm worried that throwing magic like that at her developing brain might be bad.

>>23323205
>People born without eyes aren't missing the visual cortex of their brain, why should a dryad?
Because her lack of eyes isn't an accident in her development, like with humans, it's part of the design.

Give that sorcery dot another try.

>>23323237
yeah, it cant be that hard to find some flight goggles, and you can kill any shmuck to harvest his optic nerve/eyes/visual cortex

>>23323251
Yes, this is something to keep in mind. We should give her at least a couple of weeks to a month to finish "developing", as it were. Newborn mammals are sometimes blind for weeks after birth, but gain their sight afterwards. We don't know her full capabilities yet.

>>23322907
What's Elementalism exactly ?
Its ability to spew fire, acid or water ? Or is it an ability to manipulate the four elements ?

>>23323276
A month is supposed to be the human equivalent of a year, dude, in terms of development.

>>23323287
Yes.

>>23323276
And she also doesn't have eyesight for a probably good magical reason, don't rush this, we can research this sort of thing on the backburner as a side part of all the Enchantment we learn, but just sticking magic seeing goggles on her could turn out bad.

>>23323251
Too big or not, we need to do it and do it soon, and as I said, we need to research what would be needed or we're just doing it willy-nilly and that will flat out fail because we won't be building any foundations for the project.

waiting "until we're good enough" is a great way to say "I never want to start this project" as there are always improvements to be made to your skill or preparation, instead you say, "what do I need to get this project done" and then acquire what is needed.

>>23323307
Oh You

Touch her head where her eyes should be. Is there bone beneath the skin, or eyeballs, or eye sockets ?

>>23323295
Giving her a month to grow would give a much more clear indication of what she can and can't do. For all we know, she might develop the ability too "see" on a level that surpasses regular sight, and giving her regular sight may actually hurt her potential. She doesn't have eyes, but maybe she'll be sensitive in a psychosomatic fashion to heat, or infrared light.

>>23323205
>And how soon it happens is the most important thing of all, as after development finishes it becomes impossible to learn things like that.
Your brain can actually adapt to new senses pretty fantastically even as an adult. In one study, for example, they had the subjects wear a special belt that would vibrate towards north regularly. Everyone wearing it had their sense of direction and spacial memory of their surroundings massively improved.

The big thing in this case is learning to associate the new visual information with how it was perceived by Sonar.

>>23323307
Ok, let's study what it is then.
It's related to sorcery, I suppose.

>>23323256
http://discovermagazine.com/2003/jun/feattongue#.USfWDWf3DNo

>>23323315
We need more Enchantment, a better idea of how we're doing it, are we doing the magical equivalent of wiring a camera into her brain? Are we going to have her piggyback on the senses of others, are we going to make something that adds color and more detail to her sonar? I actually like the idea of just making her sonar supernaturally good.

But before we futz with this we need to let Selene get to the point where we can be aware of the consequences of any changes and fiddling we do, all we know is that she has echolocation, we don't know how exactly her lack of sight works, we don't know how else the Vampire bit influenced her senses, she can't describe how she sees the world so we don't know if we'd be doing it right.

>>23323432
Waiting that long could very well leave her unable to learn to see at all however, and I'm still wondering why you're against researching exactly what skills and tools will be needed for the project in the first place.

>>23323511
I don't have a problem with looking into the possibilities, but I think you are grossly underestimating neural adaptivity.

>>23323511
I'm not against researching the skills, I'm against jumping the gun on it.

Researching Enchantment, and the senses is good, throwing goggles together today is iffy.

>>23323511
I think the first idea we get on how to do it will not be the best one. I'd rather have a more complete understanding of magic before doing it.

>>23323542
And I think you're vastly underestimating how important the development stage is.

It's one thing to relearn something you've already learned once, it's quite another to learn something completely new and foreign, and if we don't get this done for her in the stage where that comes easily, it'll be a hell of a lot harder, if not impossible.

>>23323335
Giving her a month will probably put us well past the point of no return. If we're going to make a decision, it sure as hell has to be in less time than a month.

>>23323544
>>23323581
I've not once suggested that we actually make the goggles, I've always and only suggested that we do the research on what would be needed.

I don't get why we can't just be happy with her having superior hearing, smell, and touch, and not try to cram in another sense that will dull the others.

FemCOCK, could we make a ring that converts text that the wearer runs their finger over to the sensation of Braille? Or are permanent effects impossible in this setting?

>>23323619
>>23323616
Mistaken identity ? If we try to do it in one month, I think we'll do a bad job.

>>23323670
I think if we focus on what's needed, have Liz, Lin and Dad helping and actually do the research on it, a month is more than enough time.

We're really good at enchantment, and decent at alchemy, the two of which most likely being the most important in the process, and time is not on our side.

>>23323641
Permanent effects are possible, but usually require a power source. With something like that ring, it would require only a very small power source.

>>23323710
Time isn't a huge issue, we don't want to delay it too much, but introducing it before she has a chance to actually develop her senses on her own would be bad, and we don't know the full extent of her senses yet.

Also, it'll be a lot easier to give to her if we do something like make it based in synthesia or something like that, have it add colors to her sonar mapping hearing thing.

This means she's still going to be practicing and refining her hearing, her best sense, if the magic gets knocked out of commission she won't be overly disoriented, and it'll be easy to tack on.

>>23323710
Considering that in this setting we can literally, physically rewrite her mind I do not believe that the month deadline is anything like hard cap on giving her sight. That said I think sacrificing her natual development of echolocation is a bad idea.

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Hey FemCock have you wondered if the 30% success rate is a little to difficult? A 40% success rate I think would be more reasonable don't you think?

Also is there any way we can augment our own eyes into seeing farther in the same manner that hawks do (they pretty much can at will zoom in)

>>23323776
Giving it much more than a month however might mean her never developing the skill.

Also, having it be removable should help her keep her sonar as her primary sense, as she'll likely just take whatever we use for her off when she doesn't need the sense.

Regardless, starting the project now, what with us being on a timer, is the best option, it's not like we need to give it to her right off the bat even if we do finish early, but finishing early means we won't be too late for her to learn to use the new sense.

>>23323814
Well, technically it's 31% success rate, and it's pretty reasonable considering the amount of successes we need for most things is low, we can usually get by with 1 success, and we're rolling a good number of dice for things.

>>23323742
Can we just make her some kind of crystal oculus and enchant it to give her vision?

>>23323814
Ehh, 30% success rate is actually fairly easy as is. The chance of getting at least one success ramps up fast, and hits the point of massively diminished returns at around 10 rolls. Actually, does anyone have that chart someone made?

>>23323814
That actually reminds me.

Femcock, I had an idea for the crit system.
nat 100s count as two successes, so to put a nat 1 on the same scale it should remove 1 success instead of being an automatic failure.

it allows crits to continue to have an impact, but not on the unbalanced scale that nat 1s had before.

>>23323814
carve the eyes from hawkes and use them as an augmentation to the eyes

also for the most part we are rolling 3/4/5 dice at a time, so about 4d100 it is fairly likely that we will get a win

>>23323889
That's actually how I was already thinking of handling it.

>>23323850
How is it technically 31%? 70 to 100 is a total of 30%, and anything under 70% is not a success. Where are you getting that extra percent?

>>23323890
>>23323864
Foci for our crystal eyes!

>>23323814
It's basically the oWoD dice system on a fixed target number of 7, expanded into a D100 so crits/botches are a 1% chance instead of 10%.

It's really not that bad, except for how wonky /tg/ dice can be. And I think he's said before he wants there to be challenge and risk to using magic.

>>23323814
What needs work is the critical failure stuff.

Should be -1 success, if that brings you to negative successes, then it can be a 'crit fail'. That way skill can help balance out rolling 1s.

>>23323921
crystal eyes? what?
we are making flight goggles that give her the gift of sight

>>23323917
Count to 30, you do not count the "0" before 1, the roll of 70 is our equivalent to "0", but it's counted. It's 31%.

70-79 is 10, 80-89 is 10, 90-99 is 10, 100 is 1, adds up to 31.

>>23323936
Tiny flying eye golems are also an adorable option.

>>23323924
I love a system that makes magic "at your level" always seem like things might go horribly wrong, instead of things getting easier as a whole as you progress. A level 17 wizard casting a level 17 spell should be at the exact or even worse risk of severe injury or backlash that a level 1 wizard casting a level 1 spell should have. I hate when it gets to a statistical breaking point where success is either figuratively or literally a forgone conclusion.

>>23323963
she sees through the golems then?

that would be good, she could help covertly scouting things in the future

>>23323936
While I'm still against project vision, if it goes through can I at least suggest that we give her infrared and UV sight in addition to the standard color ranges

>>23323936
That's cute and works just as well
I was just suggesting we simply embed crystals into her eyesockets for a similar effect. They would be harder to remove, but it's all the same to me.

You decide to research how to feed people modified sensory information permanently. Maybe something that will let Selene add color to her echolocation.

Roll Mind to research advanced applications of sensory-based Enchantment. You get a +1 for having the Focus augmentation, but you don't have any sufficiently specialized books. I'll consider the first four linked 1d100's.

>>23323936
>>23323921
Guys, both of those are impractical. Directly shoving a sense of sight into her brain is going to require lots of rewiring and might not work well with her.

Use what we already have, she has echolocation, she already has 3D mapping of her surroundings, instead of trying to throw sight at her, which'll overlap with that, confuse her,and otherwise be messy, we just improve her sonar.

With Magic it won't be all that hard to stick color sensing onto her sonar, it'll let her keep her ability to see around corners and all the other various benefits of sonar, and means her hearing is still going to be focused on.

>>23323990
I'd prefer her to be capable of removing the effects if they upset or discomfort her, or hinder her natural abilities. At this point in time, it should be a forgone conclusion that the natural talents of a creature should be prioritized over our artificial additions and enhancements. If our meddling would hamper the development of their natural talents in any measure, we should avoid doing so until the benefit is equivalent to or surpassing the consequences.

>>23323990
I was under the impression she didn't have eye sockets...

Rolled 95

>>23324007
Rolling

Rolled 79

>>23324007

Rolled 52

>>23324007
Magic!

Rolled 26

>>23324007

Rolled 95

>>23324007
Here we go.

>>23323846
everyone should remember, we don't have to work alone on this, we have 3 other people who are capable of helping in this endeavor.
but we should keep it a separate thing (such as goggles) so if we fuck up, we don't do any damage to her

>>23324007
i still think goggles

>>23324021
>>23324019
2/4, not bad.

>>23324019
>>23324021
Hot damn.

>>23324028
Aw, I was so close.

>>23324014
He mentioned shallow eyesockets with nothing in them didn't he?

>>23324034
Don't just try to shove sight into it, magically enhance her sonar, don't try to kluge sight into our child's face.

If we can do something to add color to sonar it would probably work better as earrings or something like that.

>>23324007
No bonus for being really good at Enchantment?

>>23324065
I think we got negatives for it being crazy advanced.

>>23324036
That's statistically better than what we should have gotten with four rolls, I think, so I'm happy with it. At 30% success rate, 30% of all collective attempts (such as rolling four times) should succeed, correct? Then again, since 1/4 would be 25%, then I suppose 2/4 (50%, the first value over 30%) would be the statistically most frequent result.

I haven't gotten a chance to get very far in my ISDS classes yet, so probability is still a half-mystery to me.

>>23324065
dont need to be magical goggles

i just think shed look cute with flight goggles

With how good we are at enchantment, clearly the answer isn't to get better at Sorcery.

It's to find someone else who is good at it and mind control them to do it for us.

Pierre comes to mind.

>>23324060
>Paler skin and flatter eye sockets. She barely even has a brow ridge.

>>23324065
i know this is magic and all... but adding color to hearing is physically impossible.
before someone even asks, synesthesia doesn't work like that...

>>23324113
That right there, that's muggle talk.

>>23324079
>What's ISDS?
>Google it
>Get a shop selling dog semen
Cool.

>>23324144
You can take classes in dog semen.

Truly we are living in a golden age.

>>23324113
Ahem...

WIZARD!

I would still prefer we just give her sight or something, we could recharge it ourselves.

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>>23324113
>limiting magic with science