>>23150291

Archive:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=mechengineer+quest

Or search for MechEngineer Quest on foolz.

LOADOUTS (pending more debate):

Military Configuration: 2xMlas 2xSRM4 w/1t ammo
+ High Firepower
+ Versatility with specialized ammo
- Prone to explosions
- Limited ammo (negated by military tier supply lines)

Garrison/Workhorse Configuration: 3xMlas 1xFlamer
+ Can fire all three lasers continuously
+ Can torch stuff
+ Easiest to modify or upgrade

Scout/Skirmisher Configuration: 4xMlas 4xJJ
+ High speed and mobility
+ Ammo independant
- Runs hot

How feasible would a loadout using Llas, Mlas, and SRM for a general purpose be?

I kind of want a variant that can engage at long range.

>>23150335
We had a big ass skype call going to go play MechWarrior Online but now you've started this so instead we're a big skype group participating in MechEngineer Quest.

Way to go jerk.


Sing very awkwardly to yourself in the shower.
Also what's left to work on for the mech?

>>23150291
Excellent. Let's go for a bit of a walk, get some food, check in with people, see what's going on, and then back to the grindstone.

>>23150422

Oh dude, how do I get in on this?

>>23150291
FUCK YEAH MECHENGINEER QWEST! FUCKYEAH!

>>23150410

(weapon loadout debate is still up for.. debate. It's not gonna take more than a few more hours in game time, plus you could ponder it in the shower too.)

>>23150422

(AWKWARD. Also, just armor is left, unless there is more debate about the weapons loadout.)

Which mech has chainsaw arms and rocket boosters?

>>23150422
I can write out the todo list again. One sec.

>>23150410
One of the variants suggested last thread was 1 LL, 2ML. This is perfectly workable, not sure if Anontech included this in the roll though. You can't fit SRMs on there too though because we don't have the tonnage.

>>23150335
This was pretty much agreed on once we were done last turn. We were just wanking and debating for lack of better occupation.

>>23150502

Weapon loadout? Debate?

Fuck no, we had those semi-modular loadouts for a REASON! I thought that shit was settled.

Also, we totally need to ENGINEER some special weapons for this thing, since we discovered its possible last thread.

Also, anontech, I have BRILLIANT LEAP INSIGHT.

here's what we're doing
1) Check Richard's terrible, terrible, awful mech design.
2) See what kind of engine it was GOING to use.
3) the mystery buyer from Vincent, who was going to take that engine off our hands? Yeah. I'm willing to bet it was Richard, trying to buy the engine back to finish his 'dream mech' on his own, for 500k cbills and change.
4) Guess how much the bribe to kidnap goddard was? 500k cbills or so.

If i'm right: he sent the ship/vincent here to retrieve the critical part for his dream AND exact revenge at the same time.

So it means if we find the money, we have Evidence

>>23150551
If we really want to go LL, then 1xLL is not all that great. how about a 1xPPC and 2xSL? or just 1xPPC

However we are overreaching. These three load outs are more than enough for now. We can make new variants later. Lets get a finished product out first.

>>23150529

(nothing outside of Solaris)

>>23150551

(It was, actually LLas, MLas, Flamer I think, but it was submitted. Not on the list I saw though.)

Sorry, sorry, it's just all the three layouts I saw had no real long range capability, although I suppose our speed will help offset that.

Personally, I just want to slap on the slabs of armoured plate and call it a day. I can't wait to see the investor meeting. CAPELLAN HO!

>>23150709
Err I meant to say *angled* plate, this is what happens when you don't drink your coffee!

>>23150709
IF we go with a LL, perhaps dropping anything we can from some jump jets, to make it a viable unit for shoot and scoot, and proper kiteing.

After pondering your weapons loadout in the shower one more time, you decide to hell with it, the investors will probably clamor for something other than what you offer anyway, so what's the point?

Now so fresh and so clean-clean, you retire back to your office, have a smoke, and scratch Max behind the ear.

On your computer, you have email notifications. Guess it's time to get to work already. You have three of them; one from Janine, one from Hatamoto, and one from Ilsa.

What do you wanna read first?

>>23150709

There was also a variant that replaced the SRM racks with LRM racks.

Of course, that's mainly elementary since we can always point out that our modular weapon railings allow for easy switching between missile systems. It's just a matter of showing the potential investors that the "variants" we are proposing are more along the lines of suggestions rather than completely different 'mechs.

>>23150759
I say Hatamoto, guy's really big on puncuality, then Janine, then Ilsa.

TODO:

- Armour (for the deadline)
- Modular armour system to adjust armour between 6.5-7.5 tons
- Extra cockpit cooling
- Pilot seat shock absorbers
- Cockpit red dot
- Jaw-visor for cockpit window
- Half-bin ammo containers
- Jump Jet hardpoints
- Penniform myomer architecture
- Utility water system for firefighting/rescue/hazmat etc

I have some other ideas too.

>>23150551
>I can write out the todo list again. One sec.

I can help with this!

1) find out if Vincent's ship is still in port, it should let us find out which version of what happened is true
2) grab a posse of the city garrison and go kick that Pirate Eight banshee's face in and steal the crate of half a mil cbills.
3) try to call up Blockade Ship Captain man and see if they feel like being helpful, and saying if they found any ships going off planet - or found a kidnapped man going off planet while doing a search. (have the garrison do it)
4) have janine start some legal movement (missing person's case, transfer of company authority) JUST IN CASE Richard is trying to screw the company out from under us with Goddard being a captive.
5) Armor.
6) Ask Ivan to invite some friends from solaris to our showoff. And since hatamoto asked for them, see if he can get them to bring a Freezer or two - since if any place will have some lying about in a junk pile, Solaris will.
7) Weapon designing. Lightweight SRM4's were proposed. Custom Medium Lasers seem like a general workhorse that we could profit from making a really solid custom design
8) Planning on/getting parts for Reverse Engineering AMS + UAC5

Did I miss anything?

Did

>>23150781
Yeah, that'll work, we can have our buyers request their own layouts to save us time designing additional ones. Gives it the personal touch or something.

>>23150665
>(It was, actually LLas, MLas, Flamer I think, but it was submitted. Not on the list I saw though.)

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22924190/#p22928909

Worth recapping for. Starshadow had a similiar but different and better formatted list, but lost some things like the long range one

>>23150665
>(nothing outside of Solaris)

Then lets 1) Make obtaining solaris the primary objective or 2) Create a mech based on the virtues of speed, stealth, survivability and destructiveness.

>>23150759
Read Hatamoto's email.

>>23150785

Seconding this order of E-mail reading.

>>23150787
>Modular armour system to adjust armour between 6.5-7.5 tons
Lego Brick style armour plating!

>>23150759
Hatamoto, I guess.

>>23150863

The second part is this mech.

I mean, come on man, it's as fast a Jenner and quadruple the survivability, and it can fit 3 ML's with room to spare.

>>23150891
Nah. Layered brackets, so you can just unbolt a couple of plates if you want to lighten the load.

I dunno why, but I find myself really enjoying our visits with Hatamoto, despite his entire personality being pretty much "super strict all the time."

I guess he just meshes well with our workaholic tendencies or something.

>>23150950


But does it turn ememy mechs to scrap with blade arms(or weapons wielded in fists) with ease?

>>23150967
He's got a "gets shit done" air about him, and he does.

>>23150993

No, because blades and fists fucking suck for the most part, ESPECIALLY on light mechs.

>>23150993
No, because blades suck, especially at our weight class. They're heavy and don't do much damage.

I could be wrong but I think the most useful melee attack is to kick them in the shins.

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>>23150993
>using blade arms
>not using giant electrified flanged maces

>>23150866
>>23150785

You punch up Hatamoto's email, and settle in to read a novel.

He's explaining the process by which you will be graded and critiqued by the Capellan bureaucrats that will be coming to observe the plans for the HZP.

He tells you that first, they will be up front with their conditions for entering a contract with them. Likely it will involve licensing rights and what location(s) they will be producing the HZP at, since you are located in the FWL and at the moment they are not allied with each other insofar as trade and export are concerned. Which isn't a bad thing, since you don't have the facilities to meet the production quotas of a Great House, even if they are the Least Great House.

He then goes on to explain that they will bring computers, engineers, and other staff who will check your work, and based on this they will accept or reject the design.

Then, they will examine the weapons, armor, and other minutiae, and make changes or demands based on that, based on their own needs.

After all that, they will converse, and have a meeting outlaying what the circumstances of the final deal will be, if approved, then leave. They will expect all of this to happen with no other investors present, and they will contact us within a set period of time with a yea or nay.

The email is very detailed, but you feel like a lot of it is more Janine's game than your own, and just focus on the parts that concern you, which you soon notice Hatamoto has bolded for you. Nice guy that he is.

You consider yourself more ready to face the Cappies now than before in this meeting, but it sounds like Janine is going to have to do extra work to set up different meeting times for them.

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SKVOREK TOUGH MONSTER FACTORY


>I haz motto.


>colonies worlkes
Capcha is indeed right. The colonies of earth will start to work.

>>23151042
Blunt force might fuck up mechs more than getting a sword through the torso.

>>23150993
We're here to make a mech for military buyers, not so much for the gladiatorial arenas of Solaris, and we don't have the TSM that could conceivably make a Light mech primarily designed for melee viable.

>>23151002
>He's got a "gets shit done" air about him, and he does.

he's also our energy weapons specialist. We should DEFINITELY talk to him and get his insight if we want to manufacture some SVOREK TOUGH lasers ourselves

While we deal with PLOT, I have Solaris Skunk Werks open so I can give you guys the rundown since I know not everyone here is familiar with Battletech mechanics.

The Hazard Pay is a 35 ton mech and constructed out of a number of components with different weights. A whole 12 tons of weight comes from the engine because we selected a big one to make the mech GO FAST. Adding up all of the basic items leaves us with 13.5 tons of spare weight.

Armour coverage in battletech is worked out by points, one point soaks one damage. Armour is bought in half ton lots with each half ton being worth a set number of points. Now our basic design mounts 6.5 tons of armour with the maximum limit of 35 ton mechs being 7.5 tons. This is 87% armour coverage, not the best but generally better than what other mechs of the time tend to mount.

This leaves us with 7 tons of weight with which to mount weapons or extra armour.

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>>23150759
>>23151049
Now lets read the girls mails.
>>23151042
Fah! Grabbing claws that can act as blade and mace is where its at!

>>23151049
Lets read the emails from Ilsa and Janine next. Also should forward Hatamoto's email to Janine, though he's probably already done that.

>>23151042

I did state " weapons wielded in fists" so I think that qualifies.

>>23151007
>>23151007
>>23151007
>Then you know nothing of mech combat. A melee mech will unleash annihilation upon its enemies with ease(If the pilots human).

>>23151007
>>23151036
>I could be wrong

You are very wrong. Powerful melee trumps all equivalent ranged weaponry.

>>23151091
It's a choice between having more armour, or better firepower.

I want our next deisgn to be something nice to contrast with HZP. A quad would be good for some heavy duty firepower, while the HZP get in fast and close, I guess.

What I'm trying to say is I want our next design to be something that compliments HZP, and doesn't compete with it.

>>23151091
>>23151091
>This leaves us with 7 tons of weight with which to mount weapons or extra armour.

Install extra armour, obviously.

>>23151180
A single retractable claw would weight 2.5 tons on HZP. It would do 4 damage, a Medium Laser does more damage than that, weighs less, and doesn't require us being right next to things in a Light.

>>23151225

If we do go Quad, and make a non-sucky one at that, will we have the option to go a torso with limbs? Or will we be restricted to just the normal 4?

I figure we could make a dedicated artillery platform that also comes with a nice anti-air option for it, if it works good and isn't a technical nightmare, we will have the entire galaxy on our dicks for a very good anti-air mech, as air rapes normal mech deployments.

>>23151049
Who are we inviting again?
I seem to recall Capellan, Davion, Stiener, Canopus, Taurian Concordat and maybe a few others?

>>23151274

Ohmigosh :3

I'm the dude who made the AA Quad with the head turret last thread :d

Glad to see people were paying attention!

If we ever do decide to go into melee, I would think of designing our own weapons. Maybe something like a thermal pneumatic spike?

>>23151225
Maybe some kind of artillery or fire support quad? Missile boat or light show; maybe use the rail system we developed so that it can be customized between the two variants depending on the buyer?

Should we try to include some kind of ECM capability?

>>23151119
>>23151164

You check Janine's email, and she's gotten confirmation from the Capellans regarding the meeting, and she is working on a time for that to happen, given travel times and whatnot. Also she references Hatamoto's mail and tells you to read it, because there is tons of stuff in there you should know.

She also asks you if you want to go into town for dinner tonight.

Finally you read Ilsa's mail, and she sends you an image of the face/head that kind anon drew for us a few threads ago but the archive is not responding to me and I can't get the image to repost it. Ugh.

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>>23151298

I'm the guy that posted Starship trooper bugs as possible design inspirations.

>>23151091
The way most mechs mount weapons is "hardwired". Think of it like the headlights on a car. The headlights have a specific niche that they fill on the car chassis. If you wanted to modify them by replacing them with bigger lights or something else entirely. You would end up cutting into the chassis and welding on all sorts of new fittings.

More advanced mech designs are based around something called "Omnipods". Omnipods are like a USB stick, you plug them in and off you go. The mech automatically adjusts it's centre of gravity based on the location of the pod and loads the right targeting software for the weapon. Pretty slick.

What we have in the HZP are weapon rails, essentially we created a standardized mounting system and designated specific areas of the chassis for mounting weapons. It's not a truly modular system but it greatly simplifies the act of attaching weapons to the frame. All you need is a bracket of sorts that fits around the item and bolts onto the rails.

So basically we can mount pretty much anything we want as long as it fits within the weight restrictions. But one important thing to keep in mind is balance. If you stick a 7-ton PPC on the right arm the mech will have trouble moving around unless it's software isn't designed to handle it.

>>23151309
>>23151274
Yeah I was thinking of a combined long-range support and AA combination. Quad hangs back and provides long range fire while HZP does all the wetwork.

Although I suppose we could make them two seperate configurations, I thought a combination would see more usage.

>>23151297
>I seem to recall Capellan, Davion, Stiener, Canopus, Taurian Concordat and maybe a few others?

Janine DID mention there were for-rent factories available in.... the magistracy of new sirtus?
Its possible we could actually produce our OWN stuff.


Also, is it just me, or is the lack of a heavy bay kind of suspicious?
I mean, the underground parts of the base was obviously made to be a self-sufficient star league base from the ground up. That the heavy bay just flat out doesn't work leads me to believe there is a REASON it is out of order.

I'm suspecting its not Disabled, but intentionally Locked Down for a reason. Whether to keep something in, or safeguard something really nice. We... may want to examine that computer system for clues to why.

>>23151318
>gf wants a date on the eve of mech deadline: wat do
Fire off a reply to Janine that we may be able to swing that meal in town, if we can finish the design on time.

Then put on another pot of coffee and get designing.

>>23151258

Well I said that under the assumption this was freeform. Now I know better. Still, those rules suck. Melee wouldn't logically be surpassed by ranged weaponry.

>>23151297

As it stands, you wanted to invite the Capellans, the Davions, maybe the Canopians, the FWL, and send an invite to Outreach. Steiner is also a possibility, Janine might not like it, but she might know who to talk to.

>>23151359

I was thinking that it would have three major variants, one that's dedicated artillery, possibly with a fuckload of long-toms (If time-period applicable) or Thunderbolts, One dedicated for AA / AI with a fuckload of missiles / AC's, and the standard would be a combo.

Y'know, different strokes for different folks, a city may already have dedicated artillery, but may not have decent AA.

>>23151180
Melee in Btech is quite strong, but rarely used. Mounting them on a light mech is a bad idea because melee damage scales to mech tonnage. Mechs are REALLY tough, so a melee weapon big enough to hurt one is going to be extremely heavy. If it was not it would be like attacking a guy in plate armour with a wooden sword.

>>23151376
Hmm, I always pictured a date with Janine having them both working in the same room, while occasionally glancing at the other.

We're a workaholic, a glance and a smile count as a date from us!

>>23151318
>>23151318
>She also asks you if you want to go into town for dinner tonight.

She wants the D.I.C.K

>>23151318
Send her an email back saying we're good for dinner.

We can take a few hours off, she's worth it, and we're ahead of schedule. Let's not burn out.

So get a snack, some coffee, lay out a nice outfit for later, pet Max, and make some of that Armor.

>>23151338
Don't forget that Omni technology IS NOT available to us at all. In-character, the very idea of Omni-mechs is science fiction, and that's as a designer of a radical set of technologies that could potentially revolutionize the 400 year old field of BattleMech design.

>>23151424
Well yeah, I was thinking something like that. It's always my first inclination to focus on only one loadout.

Not that that's a good thing, mind you.

>>23151318

Didn't Hatamoto want us to email him a weapon loadout configuration so he could check power draws or something?

>>23151435

How many tons is a melee-suitable mech?

>>23151393
Huh, I distinctly remember pushing for the Tarunians a few threads ago.

>>23151478
I disagree, we've got ONE day, and we're notorious for screwing up the design initally (/tg/ dice!!!)

We tell her we're trying to meet the deadline ASAP and if we finish early we'll got, she'll understand considering the stakes in this.

>>23151486
Probably. Send him the configs we have if we haven't already.

>>23151495

(they are easily added to the list too, and nearby enough to be worth it)

>>23151486

(you can do that easily now, so sure)

>>23151486
We sent him the weapon load outs last thread, with the TECH DEMONSTRATOR PROTOTYPE loadout.

>>23151492

Heavy and Assault.

Heavy = 60-75 tons

Assault = 80-100 tons.

Mediums can be swung if they are built durable enough, and are easy to repair.

>>23151309
>Should we try to include some kind of ECM capability?

I don't think that exists yet :(

We MIGHT be able to get ecm and/or case from the cappies if we impress them enough

Having read your emails, you now have a decision to make. Armor still needs to get laid out, and you have a potential date/meeting tonight to get some food and take a break from the screen in favor of probably discussing the meetings and who to invite and all that.

Probably should make a judgement call on this pretty soon.

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>>23151492
The Hatchetman is 45 ton mech designed specifically for melee.

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>>23151338
>What we have in the HZP are weapon rails, essentially we created a standardized mounting system and designated specific areas of the chassis for mounting weapons. It's not a truly modular system but it greatly simplifies the act of attaching weapons to the frame. All you need is a bracket of sorts that fits around the item and bolts onto the rails.

We made something like these.

Hey, why don't we start with a 7.5 tonne design, and when that's finished we try the 6.5? That way if /tg/ dice screw us over big time, we already have a working design, and I assume it'll be easier to adjust to a lighter loadout than a heavier one?

>>23151584

(cappies have EW Equipment in a prototype stage at the moment. They've had it for a year or so. It's 7 tons I think and doesn't do everything the TAG, GECM, and BAP do as well as the actual modules do)

>>23151538
Yeah, I like them. They made the feddies go crying to the SLDF like a little bitch.

>>23151591
Armor. Janine will understand, and we told her in the beginning that our work comes first.

>>23151591
I say dinner. Armor is important but we can all-nighter that if need be. Dinner is good to relieve a bit of stress, spend some time with our girl, and we'll end having the talks about the meetings and negotiations which we need to do soon anyways.

>>23151591


Are there any vidya? Go play those instead. Everthing will work out. You'll see eventually.

>>23151591
Lets set up the armour. And then get a bit presentable for our date/meeting.

>>23151522

I'm leaning toward this option as well. The Cappies are going to go through the HZP schematics with a fine-tooth comb. They're also providing software for the 'mech, so we need to be sure to impress upon them that this design is worth investing in.

>>23151591
Get a bit of work on Armor, but lay out an outfit for the date and be sure to go to it. If we fail we'll want a break to relieve stress, if we succeed we'll want to celebrate some.

>>23151609

Yep, except spanning an entire 'mech torso.

That's fucking amazing considering how they normally do it.

It's not quite the weapon pods of omnimechs, which is just weapon systems self-contained in their own little part with standard ports for ammo lines and power lines built into them, but it's a HELL of a lot better than the usual method.

>>23151591
Armor, everyone's butts are on the line for this, I don't want to screw it over because we couldn't postpone a day by a freaking day.

>>23151591
>>23151634
Oh its a choice between the two? Then lets go diner/meeting and then pull a all nighter for the armour.

>>23151591
Armor.

>>23151591

Armor should be EASY, after all, you've been saying it will be so far.

I say we say what janine has to say! Night on the town sounds good, and we can't say no to a Steiner! bad form and all that.

what time is it? Do we have time to do some light armor work and head out while the calculations and code compiles?

Because man a 'we did good' self congratulatory date sounds good. Also my intuition says interesting something interesting might happen while we're out. And I've learned to trust my gut!

>>23151591
Both! Work, work, work, see when she wants to get dinner, and if need be we'll work more later.

>>23151681
I think you underestimate /tg/ dice.
Ask yourself this, is a date worth risking a negative quirk on armour?

>>23151645
>>23151634
>>23151625
>>23151522

You fire an email back at her telling her a late dinner might work out if you can get done with the armor loadout for the HZP with no problems.

Taking that into consideration, you throw on a shirt and crack your knuckles. It's time to finish this puppy. At least enough to present to investors.

(if you are ready, we can roll for the armor configuration, but you have to pick a weight for a straight roll. If you want semi-modular armor as was suggested as a possibility earlier, you make your roll at +5 difficulty, but can swing the armor tonnage by ~ 1 ton if you succeed, making weapons loadout easier and more flexible as a result, with consideration to weight restrictions.)

>>23151706
>Ask yourself this, is a date worth risking a negative quirk on armour?

Yes.
and.
We have Max to use for inspiration.
Also? can always scrap and redo.

But tgdice are not ALWAYS terrible. Think about this: A date also potentially risking a POSITIVE quirk.

but still, we shouldn't risk blowing things at the last moment by being slapdash and haphazard.

I'd vote see how long it takes, maybe plan on a late dinner?

>>23151722
Modular armor!

>>23151338
Okay so in terms of "pod space" we have 7 tons. Our options are as follows:

4 tons: Large Laser
2 tons: SRM4, LRM5
1 ton: Medium Laser, Flamer
.5 tons: Small Laser, Machinegun, Fluid gun

When mounting weapons you have to consider the space available. Everything on a mech takes up "crit" spaces. The Large Laser is 2 crits, everything else is one. Basic mech design without any high tech components leaves you with the following space:

Head: 1 crit
Center Torso: 2 crits
Side Torsos: 12 crits each
Arms: 8 crits each (with hands)
Legs: 2 crits each

Canonically the HZP has three weapon mounts per arm and none in the legs. But other than that we can mount equipment pretty much anywhere. You could for instance get 12 machineguns and stuff them all in the right torso.

>>23151492
Heavy and Assault weight class is ideal, but I'd say that 45 tons is the bare minimum. Anything below that and the damage-weight ratio isn't as effective as just mounting the same weight in medium lasers. There is a component called Triple Strength Myomer that doubles melee damage, and that mixes things up a lot. But it's fairly advanced tech and only just now being invented in the current time period.

>>23151722
Modular. Spirit Animal, do your thing!

>>23151722
Modular.

Regarding Company Finances and future plans.

The first things after ensuring HZP is marketed accordingly and is set up in full production line is

a) Starting designs on a medium mech , possibly a quad.
b) Start getting some serious security. Low profile bodyguards for the named characters/members of the board, guards on the facility, cooperation with the local militia of some kind etc.

Afterwards I seem to remember someone proposing we branch out into dropship designs.

I personally think we should go for a heavy first or a second medium to have at least two successful designs generating a constant revenue stream before that, and to expand our security firm with proper personnel and gear, probably retired militia or mercs and such, with the required aerospace fighters, mech and armoured vehicles, to ensure we dont get any more surprise raids.

Then we should go on a adventure into dropships. Once we have built a few of those, probably sold to Skvorek directly and some for our own use, we can guarantee our safety trough orbital superiority, and start researching and reverse engineering that lostech ABM. Because i really dont want to be raided for it by a major player.

We need to pull a Grey Death Legion on this one, and money, a small military and armed drop ships that can blow up jump ships if they get lippy are the way to secure it.

>>23151722
modular.

>>23151722
Let's do the modular so we can really open up how many variants we can make.

I can't think of anything special to draw inspiration from, make sure the armor overlaps properly though and doesn't get in the way of the rest of the armor. Pay special attention to armoring the actuators as the myomer can take a hit anyways.

>>23151615
>(cappies have EW Equipment in a prototype stage at the moment. They've had it for a year or so.

More than a year. Its 3040, and, according to sarna.net, the generically named Electronic Warfare Equipment was out on the raven in 3025.

>>23151722
So it's going to be a semi-modular system with 6.5 tons as the base configuration. And then you could add or subtract armour in .5 ton lots to adjust the coverage between 5.5 and 7.5 tons.

Beyond that we were going for a sloped armour design made up entirely of flat panels to make repair easier. Oh and with adequate joint protection.

>>23151722
Modular armor. Angular, but sloped, with spaced plating. I'd go with cage armor- Soviets loved that shit, and we are trying to make the T-34 of mechs after all- but it'd be pretty shit against energy weapons and kinetic penetrators, so solid plates will be more useful.

>>23151845
Okay, I'm confused, does the modular design allow us to modify the armour tonnage 1 tonne in each direction, or total?

Rolled 90

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>>23151845

(rolling for modular armor, base 6.5 tons, for 1 ton swing, +5 difficulty mod, lower is better.)

>>23151837

(thanks for that, I forgot how early it was. was going off the top of my head with that, which i should really not do)

>>23151867
Hmm, maybe we can make some hardpoints to easily install cage armour over solid plate.

That way people can decide if they want to equip havier armour or add a cage?

>>23151911
Goddamn dice.

>>23151911
*slow clapping*

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>>23151911
This is why I'm glad we didn't decide to go on the date first.

>>23151911

Fuuuuck just let us roll

Or chage your trip or something.

Shit be cursed :(

>>23151911
There's our /tg/ dice.

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>>23151874
If I understand this correctly we are attempting to design the mech so that it's "stock" armour coverage is 5.5 tons. With designated mounting points to allow you to add armour in half-ton lots up to 7.5 tons.

So you START with 5.5 tons and then just keep adding armour until you reach the level of coverage you want. Most of our designs use 6.5, but you could go up to 7.5 or stay at 5.5 depending on what you want to design.

5.5 tons is only about 75% of the possible armour you can mount on the mech. But some canon designs actually have LESS than this.

>>23151911
WHY? WHY?

>>23151936
Well I suggested letting us call high or low....

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>>23151911
TRUE TO FORM WE ARE PULLING AN ALL NIGHTER.

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This gif pretty much sums up MEQ dice.

>>23151942

Not quite. see:

>>23151722
>but you have to pick a weight for a straight roll. If you want semi-modular armor as was suggested as a possibility earlier, you make your roll at +5 difficulty, but can swing the armor tonnage by ~ 1 ton if you succeed

So we're aiming for 6.5, which lets us modular up to 7.5 or down to 5.5. The Swing isn't just an UPswing . I think.

>>23151984
You lie good sir, I did not see it catch fire after it broke down!

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>>23151961

Well, it won't work. But at least you know -why-.

It seems the custom internal structure you are using to facilitate the redundant conduits and coolant lines and whatnot is causing hell with the logistics on how to place the brackets for the armor, at least if you are trying to build the mounting system by default capable of modifying the tonnage on the armor by a ton or so.

Well this sucks. You could try designing around it, or you could give up and just set a fixed weight.

>>23152013
Fuck it, we can figure this out! The answer is layers! LAYERS! LAYERS AND SPACED ARMOR! DESIGN AROUND IT!

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>>23151911

Diiiiiiiicceeeeeee!

Guys, guys I got it!
Blop's stealing all the good rolls from MEQ to fuel Ogre Quest!

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>>23152013

I just got me a big gulp of coffee and forced my body to produce a five o'clock shadow on my manly chin.

It's go time.

>>23151991
But it's basically the same thing. If you want less armour you don't put 6.5 tons on and then cut some of it off the mech with a torch. You start with 5.5 tons and keep adding until you reach the target weight.

>>23152013
Would it be easier if we made 6.5 tons the base design and only make it possible to adjust the weight upwards? I don't see any point in using less armour anyways.

>>23152013
I say one more try, and if we fail *again* we give up and give it a fixed weight.

>>23152013
Well, the armor is only going down and up by a ton or so, right?

Maybe weave the redundant coolant lines through the lowest layer of armor?

>>23152062

That would interfere with the "cheap and easy to repair all the way down" thing.

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>>23152033
>Well this sucks. You could try designing around it, or you could give up and just set a fixed weight.

Take a break. Fuck this stupid math. No use working while frustrated.

Go ask to look at janine's legs for inspiration.
Maybe it will jog something in the memory for the myomer calculations we can use.

>>23151740
Youre new to Mech Engineer quest and here is how i can tell.

1) You don't know that The Dice gods Have Cursed this quest with Terrible rolls.

2) you would rather we Spend time with our Girlfriend Janine, Than our Waifu HZP

>>23152062
That would make the armor itself a heat sink.

>>23152080

>Take a break. Fuck this stupid math. No use working while frustrated.

You have obviously never done engineering work.

>>23152057
I assumed the armour would be layered, and for a lower weight, you would just add less layers or something. 6.5 would be the standard configuration, but for 5.5 we wouldn't shave armour off, we'd just add less armour to the mech.

>>23152057

(it is pretty similar, but the main difference is the calibration of the gyros and C&C computer, with regards to the baseline weight of the armor. Plus, you can default at 6.5 with some removable, even if it works exactly as you put it, essentially. it's really just a semantic argument, truth be told)

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>>23152088

There is no way that could possibly work.

Or is there?

>>23152080
>Take a break. Fuck this stupid math. No use working while frustrated.

Designing mechs would be so much easier if only Kircheis was here.

>>23152013
We must understand why the armor brackets have such a hard time with our redundant design, and then design a solution.
This isn't just designing armor that will work, this is designing a paradigm we can use on all future armor designs.

>>23152119
>There is no way that could possibly work.

Down that way probably lies the Null Signature System, actually.

>>23152119
Well, what would be the benefits of it if it did work?

>>23152158
inb4 we make stealth mechs much cheaper and flood the market

>>23152057

(the main issue is the brackets, not the weight, so it's the same mod)

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>>23152157

(seems you want one more go at it then?)

>>23152236
Do eeeet

I'm new by the way, this looks amazing

>>23152013
We take a slow drag on our Cigareete E-mail Janine that Dinner will have to take a Rain Check and then, we Consume a Shit ton of Caffeine AND BEND PHYSICS TO OUR WILL TILL THIS ARMOUR IS MODULAR.

>>23152216
Maybe we could do something with the spaced armour idea? That wouldn't require any internal changes. But you would need posts or studs on the outside instead.

>>23152158
We star league now

Rolled 71, 99 = 170

>>23152286
fuck that, we are not letting this derail our first date

>>23152304
woops, still had dice on

Rolled 41

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>>23152033

You take a closer look at the internal structure, and after about an hour of pondering, you think you might have a solution to the problem, but you need to do a full layout and run the stresses to be sure.

(rolling for modular armor, 6.5 ton base, 1 ton swing, +5 mod, lower is better)

>>23152304
Fuck That we aren't gonna let some date get in the way of our HAZARD PAY

HOLY CRIPPITY CRAP!
THAT BETTER BE A SUCCESS

>>23152328
This is a success, right?

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>>23152328
... Acceptable.

>>23152352
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>>23152339

Success! You've figured out a way to make it work, even if it is slightly unconventional.

What you've done is to build brackets into the armor itself, and designed for the additional armor to be attached to them in set locations, instead of the armor itself being fully modular. You just decided to set the baseline at 6.5 tons, with most of the pre-attached armor being located in the torso and legs for ease. Sadly the only spot you were not able to hang brackets was the rear of the 'Mech, due to the engine layout, vent system, and pylon layout.

>>23152468
soo we have no rear armor?

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>>23152468

Our mech has... .... scales?

>>23152493
If you're facing away from your enemy you're doing something wrong.

>>23152493

We have rear armor, we just can't beef it up or trim it down as easily as the rest of the mech.

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>>23152468
Good lord, does that mean if the HZP gets an errant rocket up the tail pipe it goes kablooey?

>>23152493
The solution is obvious, just never retreat.

>>23152518
ah, that makes sense

>>23152493

(you just have no option to add extra short of welding it on in a messy fashion, that's all. it has base armor based on the 6.5 ton layout)

>>23152505

(yep!)

>>23152493
>>23152528
We have rear armor, we just can't increase the rear armor on it.

Not a big deal, if a light mech gets shot in the ass by something big an extra point of armor is unlikely to help it out. The solution, don't get shot in the ass.

>>23152505
Dear god, we're a scaley Chyrssalid Xenomorph RAPE MACHINE!

>>23152528
I think that's how it works for pretty much any mech regardless.

The majority of all armour on a mech is on the front torso, generally.

>>23152493
>>23152528

No, we still have rear armor, but, to beef it up back there takes longer and is more difficult compared to the rest of the body.

Which is fine, because you shouldn't be letting the enemy see your ass in a light 'mech at all, even when retreating, you turn that torso right around and like them up.

Man it's going to be funny at the investor's meeting, watching everyone try to make heads or tails of HZP.

We'll just make it a feature.

The Hazard Pay: Don't ever turn around.

>>23152493
The difference in rear armour between 6.5 and 7.5 tons is only 3 points using the SSW default configuration. It's possible to shift the points around so that the rear facings have that armour to begin with. It's not a big issue.

>>23152582

Starshadow, you and your rules jewery are a great asset to us.

>>23152468
So, what time is it now? Is there still time for the late dinner date?

>>23152535
Makes me wonder if armour shaped like heatsink fins or slat armour would be possible since it's designed to be ablative.

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>>23152625
If all of the hot stuff is in the back, it doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to fit something like a heat sink on.

Captcha is otter vexcess

>>23152614

(it's about 9pm or so, plenty early for a late dinner on your schedule)

>>23152535

Out of curiosity, its possible to update this design before release, right?

We're mostly just making a techdemo model/unit now, right?
So theoretically we could go back and tweak things/make custom weapons inhouse for when it finally rolls off the production line?

I'd be kind of inclined to try to rack up some positive traits by seeing what could be improved. Or at least hatamoto if he can see any room for improvement when it comes to energy weapons

>>23152683

The problem with that is that we have fuck-all facilities for weapons development.

>>23152683
Yeah, this is just a set of schematics we are using as a tech demo for the investors. Actually building the HZP comes next and it's going to be a long process. Plenty of time to tweak things and deal with the inevitable issues that crop up.

>>23152704

I think you mean manufacture.

We can DESIGN plenty.

>>23152716
Designing weapons requires new computer suites, new software, and different testing equipment.

>>23152683

(yes you can change it, but you'd need to approve that with the folks who buy to makes sure it's what they want. this setup is all about initial interest/investment, and so you just need something someone can run through theoretical stress tests and stuff and green light it to check that it works as it should and everything is go)

Is there any kind of weapon in the MechWarrior-verse that makes mechs overheat? Fucks with their weapons' cooling systems or whatever.

That might be neat. Force your enemy to fire less often, or loss accuracy and potentially have their weapons melt from the heat of firing.

>>23152677
Time for a late dinner date, ask someone to take care of Max for a while so we can have some privacy, I'm sure Ivan would love to have a puppy for a bit.

>>23152765

(Inferno SRMs and Flamers, as well as Plasma Cannons and Plamsa Rifles)

>>23152744
Speaking of initial interest, do we have any idea of how we're going to grab the investors' attention? Do we have a pitch or a grab, or are we just going to rely on their ability to identify a kickass mech?

>>23152765
Flamers do this.

They're incredibly short ranged and generally better used for utility, anti-thingsthataren'tmechs, or a last resort.

Although I suppose they add to the whole terror tactics thing the HZP allows.

>>23152765
Flamers, Inferno missiles

>>23152765

Plasmas, Flamers, and various Inferno-loaded weapons such as SRM's.

>>23152786
>Blinding them with our genius
ftfy

>>23152786

(thankfully this is the 4th Succession War era, and everyone is hurting for 'Mechs. So if it works, if it moves, if it fires, then it's potential game. I mean look at the Scorpion. the Javelin. there are mechs that have bad quirks that are in full production, and yours is actually GOOD, so your chances are pretty high of success in regards to selling to SOMEONE. just might not be who you want to sell to)

>>23152802
>>23152800
>>23152785
Flamethrowers are scary as shit in warfare, I agree.

I was thinking more along the lines of a SuperSpaceScience heat gun or something stupid, but fire/napalm works just as well.

>>23152834

>yours is actually BRUTALLY AMAZING

FTFY.

>>23152786
We show them a giant fucking list of all the ways our Mech is the most awesomesauce thing they've seen and then they notice that they're technical specialists all have massive fucking boners and look like they want to hump the blueprints.

>>23152839

Plasma cannons are like that, they are basically Heat PPC's.

PPC's are Particle Projector Cannons that fire concentrated streams of ions, multiple ones, or a heavy PPC, can often cause electrical system overloads.

Plasma cannons are the heat-based equivalent for the most part.

>>23152613
Heh the funny thing is I've always like the Battletech universe but it was MEQ that finally convinced me to crash-course myself into learning the tabletop rules.

Anyhow in this context I think we should give the base design 5 armour on all rear facings. That would allow the HZP to survive one hit from a medium laser without it being able to punch through to the internals.

But really, if you're getting shot in the back it's curtains for you. Though it's generally less of a problem in a mech this fast.

This came up in a playlist just now.
Time for SCIENCE-ing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WOtxi0nkck

You finish your work, and sigh with satisfaction. It may not be perfect, but it works, and works well, with no flaws.

It's good to be the king.

You light a smoke, and pet Max, who seems to be dancing a bit, so you go to let him out.

You open the door to your office and Janine is standing there, with two plastic bags containing familiar containers with little red dragons on the side.

"Romantic dinner out, for two?" she posits, grinning a bit lopsidedly.

I have to wonder what the end user (the pilots) will think of the HZP. How easy it will be to pilot, etc.

>>23152922
"You're an angel, and angel with absurdly nice legs and Chinese food.

Hazard Pay is presentable, I might fiddle with it later, add a few tiny things, mess with bits here an there, but for now, I'm all yours."

>>23152940
What I would pay to see is the look on the face of the first enemy that has to fight it.

>>23152922
Interesting that you can generally tell what GMs are either hungry for or have eaten recently.

>>23152785

aren't there emp missiles or something too?
i blame sarna browsing

Though i have a question!
what kind of alternate ammo exist for things, and are also worth using?
Mostly curious about SRM and Autocannon alternates

>>23152940

(it's the lore and fluff on designs that really gets me too. stuff like you mentioned)

>>23152967
Oh! We should make a system that records your kills a default feature!

>>23152968

(i am a bit hungry, but cheez-its will pull me through)

>>23152986
Doesn't the computer already do that?

=>>23152919
>This came up in a playlist just now.
Pft.

Got you beat, sonny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xrfbKTG_xE

>>23153001
Yeah, but our system lets you share them with your fellow pilots, and post comments on the videos.

>>23153027
...Does the internet even exist in Battletech?

>>23153013
To be fair, it was the Air Gear OST playlist, but that's not important...

>>23153027

No.

I will NOT be responsible for making 360noscopes a thing in Battletech.

We aren't producing mechs for Solaris quite yet.

>>23153027
>>23153001
>>23152986

([FWL] xX420YOLOBl4Z3][TXx is on a killing spree!)

>>23153053
Nope. 70s and 80s schizo tech.

>>23153053
>>23153070
To do: Invent Internet

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>>23153061
>leading cause of pilot death becomes botched trick kills
>leads to ban on tricks by the brass
>only makes them (and us by extension) more popular

I fail to see the problem here.

>>23153082
Planetary networks probably exist on the most developed planets (remember that most planets in the Inner Sphere have a lower population than modern-day Earth), but the expense and delay in FTL communication due to Comstar's HPG monopoly makes a Sphere-wide Internet impossible.

Okay. I have a Proposal for us to start thinking about now that the HZP is out of the design stage. Now, we have the CapCon as an interested customer, and if they're pleased with our HZP, they'll be coming back for more. Ditto for whoever else buys. Canopus, FWL, Mercs, Taurians, whoever.
Now. Aside from the FWL, what's two factors these buyers have in common?
1) Tight budgets
2) Severe lack of heavy-class 'mechs in their TO&Es.

So. I'm going to make a proposal. Instead of our (admittedly cool and great for the future) quad ideas, "Bigger HZP" ideas, i'm proposing we should build a Heavy to cater to these ripe markets. One built on the same principles as the HZP: Tough, easy to repair, modular, with the added criteria of being affordable and *upgradeable*. Having two solid bread-and-butter lines gives us huge leeway for investment, research, or crazy-ass designs (like that cool Quad).

>>23153122
To do: Invent Ansible

>>23153122

To Do: Invent Hamachi.

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>>23153153

So. See attached Datasheet. The design I want to propose is a 75-tonner, with 12.5t of armour, a 225-rated engine and Jump Jets for a 3/5/3 movment curve, and 20 Single Heatsinks. Yes, yes, "3/5 on a Heavy? So Slow!" Not really, it's far more tonnage-efficient compared to 4/6/0 (saves us 6 or so tons), and the jump mobility means that anywhere there's even a modicum of terrain, it's much faster than your typical 4/6/0 Succession-wars Heavy contemporary. Plus, they're all in the torso, so it laughs at Depth 1 water.
Armament would ideally be a PPC, an AC/10 w/3t of ammo, and 4 Medium Lasers.
Now, I know the AC/10+Large Laser and PPC+AC/5 have better range synergy, but two 10-point hits at range and 4 5-pointers up close is a soid firing bracket, and has heat capacity to jump and fire a full bracket without over heating, and then some.
Also, this weapons loadout is easily upgradeable to items of similar weight and size very soon.

People who play FedCom in 3055 might be seeing where i'm going here.

I want us to produce a Clan/Fedrat/whoever-smashing, Tougher, cheaper (albeit slower) Falconer, 10 years early. Because 90% of IS lostech is available by 3040, if not widespread. 3045, sure.

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>>23153154
To Do: Invent Inventions

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>>23153166
Now. Let's go with the same sort of easy, low-cost upgrades we we were contemplating for the HZP. Double Heatsinks, Ferro-fibrous armour, new guns. Nothing expensive or difficult like Endo or XL engines.

So, pull the Heatsinks for 10 doubles. Replace armour with the same weight in Ferro, bringing us from 86% to 96% coverage. Swap the PPC for an ER PPC, swap the AC/10 and it's 3 ammo bins for a Gauss Rifle and 3 Ammo bins. Medium Lasers stay as they are. Also, assuming we manage to reverse-engineer and produce it, add one Skvorec-brand AMS and a ton of ammo.

I don't even care what we do at this point, because we've got 5 and a half tons to fuck around with whatever. ECM/BAP/TAG for the Capellans, CASE for the paranoid, a couple more heatsinks, maybe an SRM for some more short-range punch. Who cares, becasue this thing is ready to rape faces all over the Sphere at this point. I added an SRM6, ammo, and ECM kit on this example, because that still runs pretty cool and balanced. You could add flamers if you wanted to, for anti-inf. Also? This is a Class D refit. Can be done in a maintenance bay, almost in the field. No fucking around with Factory refits adding Endo-steel or new engines and gyros. Old workhorses go in, and a couple days later shiny, modern death-machines come out.

>>23153153

We also need to give a formal name to our 'mech. Hazard Pay is probably not the image we want to give investors of our 'mech, nor anyone who wants to buy it.

>>23153185
"But', I hear you cry, 'It's still only 3/5/3! It's so slow compared to the Falconer!"
Okay, sure. It's also not going to die if the Gauss rifle explodes or the side torso falls off. It's going to keep on fighting until it's down to a CT and Head. Also? It's cheap as all balls fuck. This example clocks in at 7, 232,750 C-Bills. A Falconer is 18,821,250 C-bills. That's right, because of that fragile, fuckoff-massive XL engine in the Falconer, you can buy and field 2.6 of our Heavy 'mechs for each Falconer the Fedrats or whoever field.. The CapCon, the Periphery, Mercs alike are going to be all over our dick to get first crack at buying this. Yeah, it's still a touch slow compared to some other designs. But these upgrade kits would be coming out in 3045 or so, and I think we can all agree it's a far better overall design than the TRO3050 Schitzophrenic fuck-jobs that everyone seems to be eneamoured with. Plus, at 96% armour, an AMS, CASE and Standard engine, it'll take fucking forever to kill.

Other selling points are good ammo endurance, Hands (Utility, ho!), and whatever Skvorec improvemnts we manage to fudge in during the design diceroll process.
Also, unlike that fucking derpface Falconer, it'll be a Skvorec Humanoid chassis and able to goddamn Torso-twist. Beacuse FFS TharHes, what moron did you hire to design that leg/hip assembly?

>>23152945

She brings in the food and sets it on the desk.

"I got your mail and had to chuckle. I actually thought about it and realized that if you had put this off to go out I would have been pissed."

She opens the bags and hands you some chopsticks and a container which you open. It contains some pretty legit-looking General Tso's Chicken. Your stomach reminds you that food is good, and you dig in.

Janine sits next to you on the couch, tucking into a noodly thing that looks like Chow Mein. In typical date fashion there is some food sharing and a moment of laughter when you fail at eating a noodle and it slaps you in the forehead.

After dinner, Max finds himself locked out of the office for a little while longer than he'd like, ears perked up and a quizzical look on his face as his head tilts to the side now and again, trying to figure out what's going on.

A few hours later Janine packs up and takes off, saying she needs to do some more logistical work to get reps here asap so you can get them looking at the HZP, and you light a smoke and wave a little wave as she shuts the door and blows you a kiss goodbye.

Well, it's about midnight, and you're still wide awake. What's your move, Daniel?

>>23153198
Addendum: If we do adopt this, we should reccommend to Janine that we either invest in both a DHS-manufacturing line and/or a Ferro-fibrous armour line. Lots of the big 'mech companies make many of their own components, and having an in-house source for LosTech components (especailly incredibly common ones like FF and DHS) is another valuable income stream, as well as streamling and cost-saving our own supply and logistics.

>>23153053
>>23153070
>>23153082

(Actually it does exist, but mostly it's planet-wide, since communications take a while with HPG, and there are signal priorities, so getting info from another planetary network would take a long time for even a little data.)

>>23153206

Back up everything.

And.

Let's go take the design to the relevant people, especially Ivan, and point out all the shit we are doing on it.

Also, let's go talk to the guy who told us about the thing to do with that other thing, I'm fairly certain one of those things is Goddard.

>>23153206

I think we should figure out a name for this thing.

Something that'll leave a good impression on the Cappies and suitable for a 'mech with a 24/7 rapeface.

>>23153206
Question, how far did we get? I'm pretty sure we got laid, but I just want to confirm.

Back up the design a few dozen times. Send it to the people who need it.

Run out onto the tarmac screaming "I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD! I MADE THE BEST MECH EVER! WOOHOO!" We deserve it.

>>23153084

(sorry, I had to)

>>23153013
>>23152919

I got you both beat.

Ever since I came into this thread at the start, turned on foobar, I have only now realized that it's been playing "HARDER BETTER FASTER STRONGER" on repeat.

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>>23151911
Ah, yes. The good ol' MechEngineer Quest dice.

>>23153256
Cliff Racer!

>>23153166
>>23153185
>>23153198
It's starting to sound like we're the Kalashnikov of Mechs.

I like this.

>>23153166
>>23153185
>>23153198
I like it.

>>23153294

Nah, that'll be reserved for when we inevitably try and make a LAM.

>>23153294
FUCK, Anon, we're trying to scary the enemy, not scary the pilots

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>>23153298

But...that means we'll replace the Urbie.

;_;

>>23153298
The best part AKs are still being made in the Inner Sphere.

>>23153298
That was kind of the intention from the get go.

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>>23153315

>>23153334
Of course they are, why wouldn't they be?

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>>23153315

>Cliffracer LAMs supporting our Hazard Pay Chrysalid Swarms with whatever we call the big Quad.

There really is no term accurate enough to properly convey how fucked the people fighting against that would be.

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>>23153316
Well we COULD name it "5 Salvage Corvettes" but it doesn't have the same ring to it.

>>23153263

(You gonna archive this thread yet, Anontech?)

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>>23153294
>>23153316
>>23153409
>>23153315

Welp, the HZP is done.

Finally. Victory! All that's left is to give it an official service and production name and designation, and put the done stamp on it.

So what'll it be?

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>>23153449

>>23153459
It needs to be the name of something horribly frustrating.

>>23153459
Are there absolutely no more tweaks or adjustments to make? Names are hard, more mech is easy.

>>23153435

(usually when it autosages or is almost done for the night, yeah)

>>23153462
Truly, he was the greatest hero of all time

>>23153459

HZP-XX Huitzilopochtli

Aztec god of war, sacrifice, and other stuff. But it sounds weird, and it's really hard to spell.

>>23153459

CRIKET-867

(And you gonna archive this thread, Anontech?)

>>23153499

I'm the same guy here.

My main suggestion is CRIKET, but I don't know if the numbers at the end mean anything or are just there to look nice.

I posted thinking the latter point, but I'm most likely wrong. So ignore that if I fucked up.

>>23153459
HZP-1A/2A/1B etc for variants

>>23153467

MTS-00P Many Tiny Splinters

DPC-00 Deep Paper Cuts

MND-00 Mantid

>>23153486

(The Hell's Horses would be pissed; aren't they the ones that name their vees after Aztec and Greek stuff?)

>>23153385
They are still made in 40k.

>>23153256
Hazard Pay is good.

It makes you think its going to be bad, but its so bad it makes you realize its good. Like the rape you are going to receive if you are not driving it, or have some on your side.

Anyone fighting against HZP's should receive Hazard Pay.

And with some mental acrobatics you can cut down on any hazard pay to HZP pilots, because they are in the rape mobile.

>>23153459
How about we name it Cazador?

>>23153459
PHB-00 Phobos. A god of fear is an appropriate name.

>>23153593
THIS! THIS! IS PERFECT!

>>23153459
I've been thinking about this. I suggest we go with just 'Hazard'.

>>23153467
DTX-1A Death and Taxes
FRZ-00 Friendzone
BRC-0A Bureaucrat

>>23153586
This.

At this point how can we not name it Hazard Pay?

>>23153586
>they are still made in 40k

The God-Emperor isn't a moron, of course they're made in the Grimdark future.

>>23153586
Instead of 'Hazard Pay' why not just stop at 'Hazard'?
Easy to say, easy to identify.

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>>23152505

>Drawfag here

Quick update of the HZP drawing. Still working on getting everything in...

>We scale mail now
>Nice.
>Wait.
>OH GOD DAMN IT NOW I HAVE TO DRAW THAT.

Whelp, time to add another number and letter to the save file.

>>23153593
CZR-URF4CK3D Cazador

>>23153618
We went over the problem of calling it the 'Hazard Pay' quite a while ago, and it was generally agreed that while it's a great in-house project name, that for actual sale a better name would be needed.

>>23153459
Can we paint the first prototype in hazard stripes?

>>23153593
Cazador--xx "Hazard Class"
xx can be used to designate different lines, etc.

>>23153586
I don't want to name it Hazard Pay, it isn't the most promising name.

>>23153600
If we name it this we can name its Brother and Sister mechs Deimos and Enyo and have a trio of murderous mechs that are designed to work well together, cover each other, and rape shit.

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>>23153634
While I'm not Anontech, I have to say:

I FUCKING LOVE YOU

>>23153634
Fucking
Gorgeous

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>>23153486
There's a canonical Huey already, but that's a Clan vehicle.

How about Gremlin? Or Groke, picture related? Balor?

>>23153600
>>23153653

See: >>23153561

>>23153600

Thirding this. It's simple and fits the unnerving face and alienesque architecture.

Plus, the Greek name might endear it to the FWL investors.

>>23153634
You know what'd be great? If we could make the eyes swivel. And blink.

>>23153653

(sadly Deimos is taken, albeit by a later design)

>>23153600
>>23153653

And only now am I realizing that the Phobos and Deimos levels in DOOM were named after the moons of Mars.

LETS DO IT.

>>23153701

(they do, you said you all wanted to make them into searchlights so they are on gimbals and have shunts to direct the light in spot or flood mode.)

>>23153722

Well fuck those guys then.

>>23153699
>>23153737
Aww, I was hoping for the Cazador. They're fast, hard to hit, and have a habit of swarming your shit, just like a bunch of HZP's would.

>>23153737
>>23153722

What about HZP - Phobos? Or Cazador or anything else.