You should be absolutely terrified. Now get in there and play! This sounds like a great game!

>>22907993
seconded

All GMs should be as committed to making a good homebrew as your fine acquaintance is.

>cows
>boats
>houses
Jesus Fish, how big are these fucking trolls?

That sounds weird, just having one fantasy staple present in the setting, but also kinda interesting. Most fantasy nowadays takes the "everything including the sentient kitchen sink beings" approach.

This sounds like a wonderful homebrew. If it works out, is the DM willing to share?

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Sounds like you got a good time ahead of you.

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Fucking excellent.

Is the damage rating for cows different than that of horses? Can we have some examples? We don't need to understand the system. Just give us some ratios and numbers for comparisons. This sounds exciting.

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>>22908095
About Troll Hunter big, I'd guess.

>>22908153
That.

>>22907993
>>22908007
Oh I'm excited, just fucking terrified. I don't think I've ever been frightened of a fantasy monster before, but... fuckin' trolls man!

>>22908095
I actually JUST looked through the bestiary. There are a few different types, but he only has one in here. River trolls are about fifteen feet, it mentions they can't throw anything larger than a cow.

>>22908119
I'll tell him there's interest, but I get the feeling he has plans to distribute it eventually. It's too well-made to just use for our group.

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You're on a one way train to Trollheim, sonny.

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>>22907962
>Oh! That's how much damage those things do to you if a troll throws them at you.
You have no idea how jelly I am.

The question you SHOULD be asking yourself are "Are trolls the worst he's going to throw at us?"

>>22908153
>>22908204
I think he consumed copious amounts of Troll Hunter and Norse myths while writing this, yeah.

Goats are showing up surprisingly frequently in all this.

>>22908186
YES. Ponies do less damage than cows which do less than horses, and without taking the time to explain the mechanics they're on about a 6/10/12 ratio of how much damage they do. Going off of that, a one-room shack for peasants does about 15, and a large house does 35. Going off of this, getting hit by a sword does 3.

But there's a damage reduction mechanic for glancing blows from blunt and crushing damage, so by my math, yes, it is possible to survive getting a house thrown at you.

What if a troll throws another troll at you?

And what if the thrown troll has a smaller troll on his hand?

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>>22908432
What if a big troll threw a house filled with smaller trolls?

>>22908423
I love it. I can't help but respect a game with damage types Piercing/Slashing/Bashing/Herbivore.

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>>22908423
>Goats are showing up surprisingly frequently in all this.
OH GOD. OH MY SWEET JESUS.

I just read through the bestiary closer. There are three different types of goats listed: Domestic, Wild, and Long-Bearded Goats. I did a double take, because the Long-Bearded Goats looked surprisingly tough.

I CRUNCHED THE NUMBERS. A LONG-BEARDED GOAT CAN SOLO THE RIVER TROLL. KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS ON THE COVER SHEET? "GRUFF." MY GM IS THE BEST GM EVER.

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>>22908631
HE HAS TO POST THIS.

HE FUCKING HAS TO.

OH MY FUCKING GOD.

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>>22908631
>a game about trolls and goats called "Gruff"
Give me your GM now and nobody gets hurt.

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>>22908631
Marry this man.

>>22908631

Oh god Trolls are weak to Goat type damage and their attacks are ineffective against Goat type armor. Goats are the natural trump to Trolls.

Goats are the natural predator of Trolls.

>>22908700
So goat catapults?
Goatbone weapons?
War goats?

>>22908631
Holy fuck yes yes yes.

How badly does the goat win? How many fucking PCs does it take to kill the goat? Call him up right now and make him tell you if there's some dire troll out there that can actually beat the goat. Get your GM to post this, sell it, whatever, I fucking want it.

>>22908631
I am so fucking jealous of you right now, you have no idea.

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>pic related: where the party goes to seek knowledge of how to defeat the trolls

>>22908717
>>22908700
You are now realizing that premier giant and troll slayer the Norse God Thor's Chariot was pulled by war goats.

Manually

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I propose we archive this before it goes any further. Future generations need to know the story of Gruff.

>>22908809
Wasn't it an octohorse (Slepnir)? Or am I getting my Norse gods mixed up again?

>>22908908
Indeed you are, Sleipnir is Odin's ride.

I desperately want to play this game. If you can convince your GM to share his creation I would be eternally appreciative.

Oh god, this is amazing, I'm going back and skimming through the setting and lore stuff I initially skipped.

The human religion is based around a holy trinity of goats, and there are other trinities of lesser humanoid gods. Troll folklore uses goats as a warning about the deceptiveness of non-trolls and in cautionary tales against greed. A big part of the economics in this world is negotiating with trolls over the use of bridges. THERE IS MENTION OF EIGHTY-FEET TALL GLACIER TROLLS FURTHER UP NORTH.

>>22908743
Actually, the troll has a fighting chance. The goat has to get a running start to do troll-killing damage - yes, the goat CAN potentially one-shot the troll if he has about a fifty-feet run up and gets a solid hit - but according to this the charge is interrupted if the goat is hit with anything child-sized or larger. If the goat doesn't make its charge, or they somehow start in melee, I'd say the troll would win slightly more often than the goat. But with the charge? Troll's fucked.

I think a party with bows could kill the goat. But even if it doesn't get a charge, it's a fucking close-combat terror. Thick fur for damage reduction and a head butt from it knocks you 1d6 feet (this distance and the damage scales with his charge range).

I really hope someone in the group DOESN'T read too closely and fucks with the goat.

>>22909012
This is amazing. Call your DM and tell him that /tg/ is clamoring for his creation.

>>22908809
Goat chariot < Cat chariot

>>22909012
This is maybe the coolest thing I've read all week. /tg/ is interdasted.

He could always put up a Kickstarter. Lord knows I've seen worse ideas up there.

>>22909012
....Goat railguns?

>>22909129
I like how you think, sir.

>>22909129
Alright, what you do is hire some wenches to be goat wenches. You line them up with prepared actions to push whatever is handed to them forward, then you use the PCs to feed to goats into the back and launch them forward.
GOAT WENCHES, TAKE AIM!
FOR GRUFF AND GLORY! FIRE!

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I want this game right now. I don't care how you get it online, just do it.

>>22909129
It caps after fifty feet of charging, I'm sure he took that particular potential munchkin maneuver.

>>22909070
I seriously want to encourage this to him, I think he could do it. Finish the unfinished sections like the bestiary, hire an illustrator, playtest it a bit, yes, he could sell this fucking thing.

>>22909220
Illustrators can be gotten for fairly cheap on the innerwebs. The real trick to selling an RPG is layout. Also, a searchable .pdf makes EVERYTHING easier.

Why are we still spoilering?

>>22907962
>Then there's a section for purchasing land, buildings, boats, wagons, work animals, and livestock, with some guidelines to establishing a business or trade routes(we like fucking around with economics in our games).
Hate to be a hassle, but could you post this? If it's cool with your DM.

I'm working on a Post-Apoc homebrew, own rules and all that, but my mind is frizzled with building establishments and trade caravan-ing

Please and thank you.

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/tg/ you are amazing.

>>22909220
Yes. Do it. Do it now. MAKE HIM. So many people flood Kickstarter with shit and made bank. Your GM has made something that even your hasty description of which makes me want to give him all my money.

You have a fucking duty now, OP.

I need this. If this where on kickstarter, I would make my first kickstarter donation.

>>22909012
PDF this shit

Alright, /tg/, I'm going to talk to my GM tomorrow, try to convince him to do this, and let you know tomorrow night (after our first game) what he thinks.

I'll let you guys know. This is fucking exciting.

>>22908631
WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE AND CAN I PLAY IN YOUR GAME???

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>>22909524
YES.


YEEEESSSSSSSSS

>>22909524
I will suck your dick if you do.

>>22908153
I love this movie. I love you for posting a picture of it.

>>22909631
Seconded.

Hey, post the rules man. I want to see this for myself.

>>22909761
>>22909631
>>22909524
better grow extra dicks, thirded.

>>22907962
Hug your GM for me.

>>22908631
You need to round up a herd of goats and go troll hunting.

>>22908631
I WILL DROP OUT OF UNIVERSITY RIGHT NOW AND START DRAWFAGGING GOATS AND TROLLS, HOLY SHIT, OP, YOU BETTER NOT BE INFLATING THE AWESOMENESS OR I WILL BE DISAPPOINTED

>>22909897
Could you draw a space goat entering orbit and aiming for a troll?

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>I smell a Troll

>>22909964
You are a true warrior, and worthy of respect.

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>>22909964
TO BATTLE THEN, BROTHER

>>22909980

>those horns
You call yourself a warrior?

>>22909964
>>22909980
I am now fully erect.

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>>22909992
You talking shit about my brother's horns?

>>22909964
I am picturing the Goat Knights from the Legend of Zelda mod for Total War right now, fighting the trolls in the troll-den from Troll Hunter.

>>22910013

Your brother is no warrior. A troll would laugh at his horns.

>>22907962

I saw porn of that painting once and I've never been able to get it out of my head.

>>22909971
I just hit that scene in my second DA:O playthrough. Sten and Dog are the best.

>>22910039
Post it.

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>>22910026
So, you think like a troll do you?

You came to the wrong neighborhood troll scum

>>22910055

Your brother has no hope. You will see him eaten by a troll.

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>>22910067

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>>22910084
>And that young ones, was how the heard defeated the troll that day. Remember to always rise to the challenge of the troll.

>>22910054

http://i.imgur.com/q8752Y7.jpg

Give us a page from the bestiary or this is bewildering tomfoolery.

>>22910119
When you think about it, the internet is a truly terrifying piece of technology.

OP here, just got off the phone with my GM.

He is surprised and delighted that a few people are showing so much interest in this. I'm going to show him this thread tomorrow (he's working the late shift tonight and doesn't browse /tg/), so if someone can make sure it doesn't fall off the last page for the next twelve hours that'd be pretty awesome of you.

>>22910146
Some archive this shit. I can't bump the thread personally because...

>>22910119
I've gotta go fap.

>>22910146
Damn. I may not be able to be here when he posts it.

I'm relying on the lot of you to save it in my stead, and spread this goaty gospel as much as you can.

This ought to be archived.

>>22910119
...who is out there modifying old artworks likes this into porn?

And do they have a gallery I can look up?

>>22907962
this is one of my ideal settings you sir are a lucky man

Why are you so gullible /tg/? Roll sense motive and subtract 6 for your autism. DC 15.

>>22910249
Nevermind. Found the artist, apparently it was dontfapgirl.

>>22907962
I normally lurk but I must bump because this is Great and I love your DM

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>>22908652
people postan muh OC

>>22907962
How strong would you have to be to catch the cow?

>>22910314
>a thread about a game about trolls is a troll thread
D-don't crush my hopes, man. OP will surely deliver...

For G.R.U.F.F!

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Fucking loved Troll Hunter. Keep going OP.

holy crap how do i not miss this if your GM allows you to post it here. time to lurk forever, i guess.

>>22910379
>>22910314
If this is a troll thread it is the most elaborate, well-thought-out, natural-looking troll thread I've seen in some time.

We'll see what happens.

>>22910438
>We'll see what happens.
If this Troll Game does turn out to be a trolling, then we'll just adapt the idea ourselves into a Homebrew.

/tg/ gets shit done on occasion.

What is this thing about goats and trolls?

Seems like a decent game, but I don't understand /tg/ obsessing over it.

>>22910513
/tg/ gets shit done no matter what.

>>22910673
Except it never does anymore.

It's archived, folks. Link's below if anyone wants it.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22907962/

>>22910518
Roll to defend against damage by house.

>>22910731
I don't see that as something new. If they can throw, they can damage your with it.

>>22910794
>your with it

>>22910314

I am kind of waiting for OP to tell us that the game's title is MYFAROG. If this is not it, both sound really cool in my opinion.

I guess that we shall find out tomorrow.

>>22910856
He told us it's called GRUFF.

>>22908631
>KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS ON THE COVER SHEET? "GRUFF."

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DO

FUCKING

WANT

>>22910518
It's a game called Gruff that has OP goats and Troll Hunter sized trolls. And that's as far as the fantasy goes. It's a really unique idea, and goats are cool, and Troll Hunter was a FUCKING AWESOME movie.

Plus, houses and livestock are given damage numbers as part of the system. Not some DM-makes-it-up-on-the-fly thing, but they're actually right there, in the book.

Bumping this so the maker of Gruff might see it.

THIS SOUNDS SO FUCKING AWESOME! IM THROWING MONEY AT MY SCREEN BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING!

>>22910372

You need to be at least a Troll with good reflexes and a cow catching mitt.

Do you even RPG?

Y'all posting in a troll thread

I'm making a homebrew system myself and I find myself trying to live up to the simple, yet awesome ideas of OP's GM, who is truly a gentleman and a scholar.

Also, bumping for glory. HAIL, GOATS OF WAR!!!

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Fear, trolls, FEAR!

Bumping for great justice

Keeping Gruff alive
Billy Goat motherfucker

SONS OF THE GOATS TODAY WE SHALL DIE
OPEN GRUFFHALLA'S DOORS
LET THE BATTLE BEGING
WITH HORNS IN THE WIND
HAIL, GOATS OF WAR

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A GOATING NIGHT IT IS TONIGHT
THE NIGHT IS THICK WITH HORNS
THEY COME WITH AXE
THEY COME WITH HORN
THEY COME TO BUTT AND BASH AND GORE

A GOATING NIGHT IT IS TONIGHT
THE STARS ABOVE FORSEE
WHEN GOATS ARE GONE
WE COME ALONG
AND MAKE OUR TROLLISH HOMES

>>22908095

This is now my favorite way of invoking the Lords name in vain.

I have to agree with you. Christ on a fucking pogostick, those things must either be huge or so fucking muscle-dense that they'd sink faster than a lump of iron in water.

>>22908631

Your GM is now my favorite person ever.

I actually knew that was coming when you first mentioned goat frequency.

HUM! DRUM! The battle comes!

Billy Goats will slice your throats!

>>22908700
OP needs to RIDE A GOAT

>>22907962
Gotta pay the troll toll to get into the boy's hole.

>>22914517
Today is a goat day to die!

>>22910328
>all this wakfu
oh jesus

>>22914664
>http://i.imgur.com/q8752Y7.jpg

DFG is one of waifus.

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>>22910518
Because awesome-trolls of John Bauer, Troll Hunter and ancient lore rather than modern trolls, plus old folk and fairy tale trolls. Throw in some Theodor Kittlesen trolls and /tg/ will overflow with neckbear cum.

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>>22914746
Some Bauer to keep the thread bumped

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>>22915222
I'm guessing Moomins drew some inspiration from this kind of folklore. So adorable.

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>>22915275
Tove Jansson approves.

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More Theodor

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>>22914746
>neckbear
BRING ME THE TROLLS!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, good, this is still up. Here's Gruff GM, I made him a trip so he can post.

Hello, I'm the GM. It's great so many of you are interested in the game, just wanted to say thanks for giving so much positive feedback after hearing so little. My original intention was to polish up what I have now and just stick it on RPGNow, but now I'm looking into starting up a Kickstarter for this and making it into a more professional, finished product, and I guess I have a little time if anyone has any questions, comments, or suggestions?

I'm thinking about making a truncated version of the game document I have now to release as a sample/playtest of the game, to get some wider feedback since I really kind of threw the mechanics together as I went along. Would any of you be interested in that and possibly playtesting?

>>22919129
Just whip up a .pdf and post eeet. /tg/ can do theorycraft pretty well.

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>>22919129
Poast pdf and /tg/ will gobble it whole

>>22919212
Cool, good to hear.

>>22919393
along with gruffgm's balls because this sounds awesome.

This looks pretty awesome. Hoping it's real and not a troll, or otherwise I'mma make it myself.

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>>22920693
>Hoping it's real and not a troll
Dat choice of words...

>>22920818
The joke has been done so many times in this thread. Still chuckles.

OP, your GM sounds great, that game sounds great, and you should feel great... Until a troll throws a three-story building in your direction...

Why is there no PDF yet?

Will bitch need to slap it together?

This cannot die

bumping for goater justice

GruffGM.

We're still waiting.

I'm actually willing to drop my current campaign to run this.

>>22922500
Gimme about a week to make something I'm happy distributing to the vast interwebs. I'll go from there.

>>22922610
We'll be waiting...

>>22922634
We're about to start our first session, I'm excited to refine the game based on how this session goes before I make it public.

This is seriously cool.

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Goat story time!

1/8

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>>22922695
2/8

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>>22922712
3/8

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Aww man, time to watch some Trollhunter.
Lucky I got a dvd of it.

>>22922727
>>22922731
TROLLHUNTER!

NO TROLL SHALL BE LEFT ALIVE!

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>>22922727
4/8

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>>22922751
5/8

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>>22922767
6/8

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>>22922731
>mfw I found out my neighbour country can make excellent movies

>>22922668
Inb4 vaporgoat.

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>>22922781
7/8

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>>22922798
8/8 END

>>22908228
>I don't think I've ever been frightened of a fantasy monster before

What the hell kind of systems you been playing, son? Guys with knives are usually enough to but me on edge, let alone fucking trolls.

>>22922746
>>22922784

It's such a damn enjoyable film and you feel sorry for the camera man for the first part of the film.

Otoyomegatari is so great
Kaoru Mori is by far my favorite mangaka.

>>22922835
And that visual porn... I only an hour and a half by train away from Norway, I should visit someday and check the scenery.

>>22922900
>visual porn
I think you mean scenery porn. Maybe. Visual porn would just imply porn that you can see. Meaning, all of it.

>>22922835
I'll cop to it; Troll Hunter was a huge inspiration for this game. I'll freely admit now that my game isn't 100% true to folklore and mythology, but I wanted to give the feeling of regular humans being dumped into a fairy tale world. And I chose trolls because, when I was first writing shit up for this game, I was thinking of gods the characters could worship. I was looking through my Greek mythology and Artemis and Apollo interested me, and I added a third archery-focused god and thought "hehe, yeah, lots of myths and fables focus on threes, like, um... Three Billygoats Gruff-HOLYSHIT." That's about where this game came from, I won't even pretend that this is thoroughly researched or "historically" accurate, I just wanted to make a fucking awesome game.

>>22922900

Yeah, even if most of the film was set in a wet, damp and grey season, it just feels like home to me.
Gotta love English summer.

>>22922924
>All of it

>Implying I don't have several thousand words worth of erotic literature and smut saved
>Implying I don't have several hours worth of moans and lewd radio plays

>>22922942
>Troll Hunter was a huge inspiration for this game

You say this like it's a bad thing...

>>22922900
Take some trollstank with you.

>>22922942
>I just wanted to make a fucking awesome game
From what we've seen so far, you did a good job of it.

>>22922956
It's not porn. It's erotic literature and lewd radio plays. Porn according to Webster is images, not words or sounds.

>>22919129
You are trip trappin' my interests, good sir.

>>22922942

All I know of Norway and fellow county's love their folklore, and trolls play a big part of it, even with Beowulf poem and Thor mythology.

Also I'm hella drunk right now so sorry in advance if I'm talking out of my arse right now.

Does anyone have a torrent link for Troll Hunter? I want to watch it but don't get paid until next week...

>>22923095
In English, forgot to specify that

Fucking awesome game design so far GruffGM, really hoping this pans out in the future

>>22923109
>watching toll hunter in english
Fucking pleb. Reading too hard for you?

>>22923126
It has subtitles? I hadn't found a subtitled version yet. I don't mind that then

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Sounds like fun, I would Varg the shit out of that game.

>>22923140
I watched it with subtitles. Must be one out there somewhere. If not, just go learn Norwegian.

>>22923175

Or look on amazon.

>>22923175
I'm pretty sure it's on netflix.

>>22922966
Oh, not at all a bad thing, I just want to make it clear that my game isn't 100% based on mythology. Rule of Cool is in affect to a certain extent. Also, trolls are considerably tougher to kill in this game. The typical weaknesses of fire and sunlight only apply to specific types of trolls, in general players are best served trying to talk their way past trolls rather than trying to fight them.

At least until they're more experienced, where becoming genuine troll hunters is a valid career path. Something a player suggested when I started this homebrew, and something I took to heart, was "You know how the dragon fights in Skyrim were cool, but kinda piss-easy? I wish we could have something like that, but challenging, where it felt really fucking awesome when we managed to kill a dragon instead of it just being another notch in my character's belt."

>>22923454
Talking your way past trolls? Meaning the 100-foot behemoths can carry on a rational conversation? Fuck yeah!

>>22923605
Haha, most trolls the party encounters won't be more than 15 or 20 feet. Those are River Trolls, they're the ones that regularly deal with humans. Lake Trolls are about 30 feet, Forest Trolls are around 25 (this is, of course, assuming they're full-grown), Ocean Trolls are around 100 and extremely rare, and Glacier Trolls (the largest players are likely to encounter) are around 80 feet. There are a couple other types I haven't defined yet, and they're all really the same species. They just tend to adapt to their surroundings in different ways.

They're all intelligent, if a little slow. Humans can't really impress them with physical strength, but a quick-witted, funny, or charming human can earn their friendship pretty quickly. Trolls fucking love stories and jokes, and if you're a fast-talker you can earn a River Troll's friendship pretty easily. Others aren't so friendly, Lake and Glacier Trolls in particular are right assholes most of the time.

>>22923725
I'm picturing an adventure where the ultimate goal is to locate and befriend an ocean troll to defend a seaside village from the encroaching lesser trolls...

I love you.

Needs cave trolls, mountain trolls, and hill trolls.

C'mon man, if trolls are gonna be your whole thing you need some variety.

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>>22923725
Fuck yeah ocean trolls!

>>22923725
You should read I Kill Giants, if you haven't already.

>>22923725
Is there any form of unified Troll society beyond a shared form of religion mentioned earlier?
Or do they all live separately from each other?

>>22923454
I'm interested in using the Gruff setting for a campaign. I'd like to request more information if possible. If private means are needed to do so, then that will do.

Is it alright?

Also read Shingeki no Kyojin. More giants, but still.

>>22910011
Fucking Welshman

>>22924196
I only got so far into that, isn't it just about an unpopular schoolkid who is a dick to his family and D&D group and has a delusion about giants? I mean, if there are any actual giants that get killed in the comic then send me a link or something and I'll read the rest, but what I read just seemed like "The childhood of a NEET who was institutionalised for paranoid schizophrenia."

>>22924453
It starts out like that, but it ends with a pretty climactic showdown with a giant. That part you should check out, at least.

>>22924295
The closes you would get as far as i know are two different northern mythologies. The Norse mythologies have the Jotuns (called jotner where i am from) which are the arch enemies of the norse gods. You also have old norwegian folklore which deals with the Subterraneans (de underjordiske). It was a sort of collective term for all the evil spirits i think. Among them you have the troll court living deep in the mountain from the play Peer Gynt. Sometimes the words for Trolls and Subterranean were separated as the two different kinds of supernatural evil beings.

The word Troll in it self can actually be sort of translated to hex or magic, as hexing people and trolling people could mean about the same. Although trolls often differ from magic or hex as it was almost always viewed as a negative thing. A wild, unruly, dark and destructive thing.

I am not completely sure about this but this is what i have grown up with and the conclusions i have reached i draw from proverbs and similar.

>>22924592
>as hexing people and trolling people could mean about the same.

There's a joke in there somewhere, but work has dulled my senses.

By the way, I like your setting, OP.

>>22924394
>shingeki no kyojin
My melanin-enriched comrade-in-arms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKzmOh4SuBc
>DAT GLORIOUS 1080P

GruffGM, I'm a freelance editor. If you're worried about making your writing more "presentable" before showing it to people, drop me an email.

>>22927431

What kind of rates would you charge for a ~150 page homebrew RPG that I intend on releasing for free?

>>22927466

If this was about money, I wouldn't be on /tg/ talking to you. I just want to do my part in getting shit done.

If GruffGM is interested in playtesting after he's refined it a bit, I totally think I could interest my group in playing a sort of "minicampaign" using the system. This sounds right up their alley.

I'm beyond interested in play testing this system. The initial image post hooked me, and everything since has been sheer gold.

Gruff Player OP here, we played our first session tonight.

Everyone had a good time and the system worked pretty good, but there are some kinks to work out. Dunno when he'll have something ready, I'll keep /tg/ posted.

>>22930474
sounds good

Whats the damage if a troll gets thrown at you?

>>22930789
There's a rule for that, and the answer is "about twice as much as a horse" for a fifteen feet tall troll.

I did not think OP would deliver.

Give me his dick, I want it in my mouth.

What if the OP is making this entire thread up as he goes along, and he's just pretending to be GruffGM?

A PDF would be trivial to give otherwise.