>>22902103
First!

>>22902103
FIR- ... Shit
Second!

>>22902137
And now that my place has been secured:

Good evening, dearest Britfag and participating players. Hyped for tonight already.

>>22902184
sceond

>>22902189
Indubitably. I find that tonight's thread shows great promise for the future wellness of our tribe and allied associates as we usher in a new age of global progress from the tip of our rather large, rather stiff swords.

>>22902230
Also, Chat up on the mibs #longfangs

I'm here

Turn Report

Population: 623 (172 elders and children)
Food: Sufficient (Fruit CRITICAL; Vegetables VERY LOW; Grains VERY LOW)
Morale: 5/16

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes, forest foods,
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, crude carts, fish traps
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine, rough calendar
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liquor, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets, clay wall-tiles

Moon 10

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>22902909
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>22902917
E) Find a way to better move in the snow. Like Snow-shoes.
or
E) Find a way to work with stone, now that we have a quarry.

>>22902983
I agree on wanting to work with stone, but I think we should keep that to winter. Until the ground freezes we should try and expand our fields more.

>>22902917
B. Trym and dat hunting.
G. Using our current influx of wood to construct a sturdy pen for: see next action
I. Have some of our best scouts and hunters attempt to capture some wolves. Inform Derrik that we intend to train the wolves to better help us survive in the world and form a brothership with our tribes namesake. A blessing from him and Hrunti would be pleasant.

>>22903021
silly me...

>>22903021
I'm fairly sure that moon 10 is winter, good sir.

>>22903052
Are you sure? In reality Moon(th) 12,1,2 are the winter ones...

If we are still in Fall, I want to keep expanding fields. However if we are already in winter, then I sceond this
>>22903024

>>22903021
Masonry sounds good, also hunting, you never have enough food.

>>22903024
I can get behind this, though I think we should spend some time in the winter working on our masonry. S'bout time we built some real monuments, let 'em know the Long Fangs were here.

>>22903024
Change Hunting for Masonry. Food supply should suffice for the winter I think.

>>22903067
Moons 1, 2 and 3 are spring
Moons 4, 5 and 6 are summer
Moons 7, 8 and 9 are fall
Moons 10, 11 and 12 are winter.

It makes MUCH more sense to count the first month as the first month of spring, so your tribe does it that way!

>>22903143
I don't think that would be wise. Letting our guard down has screwed us before. Maybe we could build the pen, hunt, and save the wolves for next turn while we ask the wise ones to work on doing something with our stone.

>>22903163
>It makes MUCH more sense to count the first month as the first month of spring, so your tribe does it that way!
But my gregorian calendar!

>>22903191
Do you even Julian calendar, nigga?

>>22903208
Get with the times, son! Rome is dead!

>>22903317
Bumping because of reasons.

>>22903589
11 minute bump. Update incoming, wazoooo.

>>22903024
B) Hunting with Trym
E) Masonry now that we have a quarry.
F) In the dead of winter we bring together the clan heads in order to discuss our current situation and our plans for the future. The priests will be here as well and everyone is invited. The war taught us we must become more organized and have a better power base. This will be the first steps towards discovering what our tribe must become to survive. If we must have a chieftain.

>>22903731
Good options. Good options indeed.

>>22903731
Sounds good. Secong

>>22903024
Trym again leads the hunters out into the forest, but with the snow and ice of winter closing in, it is a risky venture. On the positive side, the tribe's measures to preserve the herds of deer seem to have worked and though the hunters bring back a substantial amount of meat, they do not report that the herd is significantly lessened, to their eyes. On the down side however, the chill results in several of the hunters returning shaking, cold, sick and miserable.

The tribe finds it hard going to construct such a pen in winter. The cold makes it hard for the tribesfolk to move their hands and fingers and it is miserable work that many shirk in favour of warm huts and food. Eventually however, the pen is mostly finished, including a rough shelter against the cold.

Derrik refuses to pass comment on the tribe's plan to capture wolves. As he is getting on in years and Hrunti has a new priestess, he has chosen to spend this winter in the village, to stay warm. The hunters and scouts set out and, through more luck than judgement, manage to surprise a pack of wolves as they slept through the morning. The ensuing fight is vicious, as the Long Fangs are limited by not wishing to harm the wolves, while the wolves fight tooth and nail for their territory and to protect their young. Two of the hunters are killed in the struggle and eleven more are brutally wounded, but the survivors manage to bring home a half-dozen juvenile and lesser males, as well as four females

>>22903731
thirding. I wonder what will come of the meeting.

>>22904062
Great... we should have asked Hrunti to gift us the wolves.

>>22904080
He'd probably just tell us to earn them or something, and then go back to doing the doggy style with his priestess

>>22904104
good point

>>22904080
Meh. Judging by Derriks demeanor, I don't think Hrunti would have been down for us capturing wolves.

>>22903731
Sounds good to me.

>>22904062
EVENT
Gerrin, Salina and the devouts return to the village just as the winter snows start to close in. When they left, the group had little direction, until Gerrin took it upon himself to lead the group. The group, it seems, spent the year travelling the land, looking for a site sacred to Groza, so that a shrine could be established there. Sadly, they found no such location on their wanderings this year and returned to the village when their supplies started to run low.

EVENT
As the first snows fall, Khoine is sighted near the village, hand-in-hand with an unknown young man. She approaches the village gates and some of the tribe rush out to greet her. She enquires as to where Mikuhla is, but shows little more than sad acceptance when she is informed that he is gone, saying she, "Suspected as much." She introduces the young man by her side too, though not by name. He is a little shorter than Khoine herself, giving an impression of a boy not quite yet a man. His face is strangely clean-shaven, but his hair is brilliant white, just like Khoine herself's. Upon closer inspection, it can be seen that his hair is hung with scores of tiny icicles, as are the buckskins he wears. When he speaks, his voice is quiet and polite, asking the tribe one simple question, "Please... As you did my sister, I would be named."

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>>22904474
Name him Josh. Just because.

Pic not related. The one to the immediate right of Gene Wilder gives me nightmares.

>>22904474
Glacies for the name

No dice on Josh then?

Glacies as was suggested. Sounds girly but whatevs. Means ice in latin, apparently.

>>22904712
And then obviously welcome them into the village with open arms and blah blah blah. They are always welcome to sit amongst our people as members of our tribe and beloved spirits.

>>22904474
Call her bluff. Does the boy bare any resemblance to Mickey?

If so we ask if that is really her brother. If not we simply name him as usual.

>>22904843
Anyway, this is me. My reasoning is that in funky spirit world time that is Mickey and Khoine's son. I think she is trying to pass it off as otherwise.

>>22904474
Oh. Forgot there's still naming to do.

Let's go with... Mr Freeze

As per the name I vote Svell, it means Ice in old Norse.

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>>22904865

>>22904843
Sounds like a good idea to me. Name him and then ask Khoine about it

>>22904890
Svell it's gewd.

>>22904890
I'll second this

>>22904702
Is me.

I change my vote to Svell and ask Khoine about where he came from

HEY OP!

WHICH IRC CHANNEL DO I GO TO?

>>22904987
#longfangs. As mentioned somewhere above.

>>22905011
The chat isn't usually this bad...

>>22904890
The tribe gives the young god the name Svell and with typical bluntness, enquires of Khoine as to whether he truly was her brother, or the result of her and Mikuhla's relationship. Khoine is quick to point out that any child they had, had they even done the deed, could not possibly be as old as Svell is. Strangely enough, though Khoine leaves shortly thereafter, leaving a soft snowfall behind her, her brother chooses to stay in the village longer. He seems to suffer no discomfort from the cold, despite being found one morning from having slept in a snowdrift, covered by a sheen of ice, almost like a blanket.

>>22905403
Turn Report

Population: 621 (172 elders and children)
WOUNDED 11
SICKENED 9
Food: Sufficient (Fruit EXHAUSTED; Vegetables CRITICAL; Grains VERY LOW; Meat low)
Morale: 5/16

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes, forest foods,
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, crude carts, fish traps
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine, rough calendar
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liquor, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets, clay wall-tiles

Moon 11

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>22905437
EVENT
Svel's presence in the village is unusual. Most gods the tribe has met thus far only visit mortals briefly, even Khoine leaving Mikuhla regularly in previous years, when they spent time together. Svel sleeps and eats and lives among the tribe like any human, particularly spending time near to the devouts of Groza, as they train. He makes a passing mention of wishing to join them, seeing how they grow stronger through their training, but unwilling to bend a knee to Groza in subservience, he simply watches from the sidelines.

Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>22905484
How about we hold a festival for those deepwoods?

>>22905484
I. Heal them sick and wounded as best we can. Rina can help if she feels up to it.
I. Set somebody to train the younger wolves. Wolves would be good to have in the spring for hunting and such.
F. Have our priests and priestesses begin communing with their gods. Might as well get this get since pretty much everything else is out the window due to it being winter.

Also, for Svel's sake, lets ask Gerin if there is any way he would be able to train with the Devouts without having to become a follower of Groza. Being a god himself makes that much impossible but he still wants to learn the ways of honor and battle prowess. That must make up for something.

>>22905576
Second.

>>22905484
(I) Well, Svell is not a hero unit so we can't directly command him, but why don't we have Gerin speak with him. Something along the lines of-
"You're a God, Groza is a God, why don't you just call out Groza and ask for instruction/a duel? (depending on what Svel's intentions seem to be.)

(J) Ask the elders for advice on how to tame the wolves

(D) All about that food, though I don't see how we're so low already.

(I) Get the sick and wounded healed to the best of our (by which I mean Chani and Rina) ability.

>>22905576
Sceond.

>>22905576
This works for moi.

After this vote, do you guys want me to put in some writefaggotry for the formation of a government? I've been thinking on a nice speech to give and a few ideas sound rather decent, I think. But that's if we could manage to get a vote for it going tonight. Needs to happen sooner or later.

I know it isn't entirely related to the topic at hand, but Brit wanted me to keep discussion in the thread.

So it appears that we have at LEAST two forms of god.

The First is a primordial god, and was at a previous point nothing more than a spirit (Referenced to by Hrunti commenting on when he was just "Another in the pack" (I'm paraphrasing))

The Second is a conceptual god, which is (probably) a concept given spirit through distinction. A conceptual god needs sentient beings who believe in the concept in order to begin existing, but once it is named it can sustain itself without actual further belief in the concept (From our conversation with Rising Sun Lady)

A God seems to be nothing more than a spirit until it is given a name, at which point it either ascends in actual power, or gains a different status amongst the order of spirits (Learned from Hrunti). Without a name, Hrunti was just a powerful Wolf Spirit. When we named him, he became a God (Personal Observation). Perhaps Spirits and Gods are interchangeable terms, or perhaps a Spirit is the same as a god in every way except they are not named/not worshiped.

Anyone else have any insights or comments?

>>22905815
Twas me, by the way.

>>22905484
I have to go with my old suggestion:
B) Hunting with Trym and the Wolf Priestess
E) Masonry now that we have a quarry.
F) In the dead of winter we bring together the clan heads in order to discuss our current situation and our plans for the future. The priests will be here as well and everyone is invited. The war taught us we must become more organized and have a better power base. This will be the first steps towards discovering what our tribe must become to survive. If we must have a chieftain.

>>22905576
Sceond this.

>>22905962
I think we have enough food to last through the winter. And if we start hunting in spring again, their numbers don't run the risk of dropping too low.
Also it's a bit cold in winter for masonry, seeing how our people already had problems with a mere pen. We should get to that in spring/summer and use the winter for godlore/government/research/other stuff we can do in the comfyness of our homes.

"People of the Tribe, we gather here today in the cold and darkness of a bitter winter. We gather as a show of strength, a sign of force against this world that wishes nothing more than to destroy us completely. A sign of force against a world full of gods and beasts an men who would wish us harm, and so we stand here today as an army, defying them and their demands that we kneel and accept our fates."

"We are an army, each and every man and woman a soldier, every elder and child too. We fight a battle for our very survival, to continue our own existence. The moment we stop fighting, we lose. And the moment we lose this battle, we are gone, another flurry of snow in the blizzard of reality. We are an army, but we are not invincible."

"We can, however, make ourselves better prepared to face the harshness of the world. Every army needs a strong general, and so too does our Tribe need a strong leader. A leader skilled in the ways of trade, knowledgeable of the riverlands, and wise in word and thought."

"I stand before you in the cold, asking if such a leader exists amongst us. Who will take responsibility and lead this army into battle against gods and beasts and men and even the seasons themselves? Who of you will guide this army through times of drought and starvation, disease and sickness, war and death? And most important, who among you can lead this army to victory?"

If there is a man, let him step forth.
All in favor of the candidate say "Aye"
You know the drill.

>>22906198
Some writefaggotry for if we decide to tech into government.

Which means that I'm seconding >>22905962 for now, with the addendum of J) Ask the elders for advice on taming the wolves.

>>22905962
>>22906198
Seconding these. I like what's happening here. Afraid, though, that Trym won't get to be chief because of River Brothers contract.

>>22906198
Long Fangs, hear me! I come to you today on the eve of a great event for out tribe. Not concerning the welfare of our friends, not concerning some great war but something much, much greater: Ourselves.

For many and more generations our people have lived under the rule of our family elders and, by and far, this has worked without flaw. It has taught our children the difference between right and wrong, how to be strong, and how to deal with the trials and tribulations of the world. This has made us great, this has made us numerous and this has made us the center of a fledgling confederation. But it has a less romantic side.

Those same values that made us strong now weaken us by making our decisions slow or even unenforceable in the few times we have reached an agreeable consensus. They weaken us by being unwieldy. I remember the groans of becoming bothersome to maintain when we were a much, much smaller tribe and now at nearly a thousand souls all told, the bother has turned into outright frustration. I have seen this in my family and I know, in your hearts, you have seen it too. Surely we all remember the battle before the Sun Village? Each warband leader doing as they thought best. Tell me, how did that end for us? I praise their courage, do not doubt me in that, but there must be a better way!

What I now suggest does not come without serious thought. We are looking at a change to the very foundation of our society and it will not come easily but it is a change that we should, no, we MUST make. We must present a united front and that cannot be done when our village is represented by nearly half of our people. Surely such an arrangement cannot last much longer as we continue to thrive as a people.

Please my friends, I have said all I can and I end with a simple request. Give this some consideration. The future of our tribe may well depend on your answer.

>>22906832
Just in case we move for a government. Imps is rather pleasant, but I figured I would writefag too.

Because I'm a writefag.

>>22905592
The Elders have absolutely NO clue about how to tame the wolves. Such a thing has never before been attempted and they are worried that it may bring down the wrath of Hrunti.

>>22905576
Rina tends to the sick and the wounded. Though her arts, most of them make a full recovery, but some, particularly the older members of the tribe, as well as the very young, die due to complications caused by the strength-sapping chill of winter.

Some of the more adventurous members of the tribe try to get the wolves to follow commands and orders, bribing them with smoked meat. They meet with very limited success and one badly mauled arm. The wolves are almost totally feral, scared and confused by their surroundings and unwilling to react kindly to humans. None of them exactly look like cubs; even the youngest among them is fully mature.

The priests of the respective gods of the village spend the winter moon in prayer, trying to commune with their gods and gain a deeper insight into their ways and abilities. For most, there is little result, but Rina almost at once feels a deeper connection to the river, as she prays at Chani's sacred shrine, by the waterfalls.
>Rina gained a level as Priest!
>Rina gained the 'Blood of Flowing Water' trait!

Gerin, roused from his 'communion' with his god (that seems to involve beating three of the devouts at once, bare-handed, then drinking oneself into a stupor before the shrine, takes one look at Svel and shrugs, shaking his head. "Groza cares not who fights, nor do I. If he wishes to brawl with the devouts, then let him! I will not teach him, but by fighting, we honour Groza, regardless of whom we fight. The only rule..." he gives the councillor who asked a pointed look, "Is that it BE a fight. Torture, murder, killing those you hold bound and helpless... These things alone Groza despises. To restrain an enemy and kill them in battle is one thing, but never in cold blood."

>>22906198
>>22906832
>I approve of this writefaggotry and will store it for future use, should the tribe evolve a new government.

>>22906861
"No matter if the fight be one-sided, it must BE a fight, understand?" Gerrin waves Svel and the man with him out of the shrine and reaches for another jar of berry liquor to slake his thirst. Encouraged by Gerrin's words, Svel starts sparring with the devouts, using a sword made from ice as hard as bronze. He regularly can be found fighting with Xotel, the devout with the terrifying shield. The two of them are seldom seen apart, often going at one another hammer-and-tongs, as though each fully intended the other dead!

And that'll have to be it for tonight. I am operating on about 4 hours sleep and need to crash, BADLY. I hope you all enjoyed tonight and I look forward to seeing you all again in the next thread, on Tuesday! 1600EST once again, people! I wish you all a good weekend and a good night!

Dat Blood of Flowing Water. Probably good, sounds nasty.

>>22906962
Was a good thread. See you in two weeks probably. Maybe earlier. Good night!