>>22633521
[x] Ask Lancer what he and his Master know.

We can ask for dog names at the end.

>>22633521

This was unexpected.

You ok, AC-Guy?

General strategy meet. Lets go down the line.

All of them if we have the time but ask lancer what he and his master knows first.

We can cut fruit later and ask for dog names later.

>Dog names
It should be Cu, obviously.

>>22633638

Nah.

Heracles.

>>22633521
>[ ] Ask for Dog names.
important things first

>>22633638
>>22633711
Better yet: Arthur.

>>22633638
>>22633711

I vote 'Kirby'. As in Kerberos.

Or shit, ask Cain. Doesn't he know every story ever for some reason? Dude's got to have some good suggestions.

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>>22633521
>[x] Ask Lancer what he and his Master know.

>>22633711
We should name 'em Wishbone.

>>22633797
>>22633805
>>22633844

But it's just about Ilya's.

It's the loyal companion she never had in this verse.

>>22633805

>Kirby

Best part is an earlier comment about Shirou being aware of American comic books.

>>22633899

We can still help. Besides....
>Never had.
>Other than Berserker
>Her Maids
>And Shirou, who she has openly referred to as 'her most reliable minion'.

>>22633931

Ilya's bond with Hercules was something special.

And I meant it in the big hulking monster not there anymore, not that she was alone.

>>22633521
>[x] Ask Rider what she found.

"You saw anything suspicious underneath that blindfold of yours?"

>>22633638
>>22633711
>>22633797
Man, the cute little mongrel is quite the distraction. In a good way.

>>22634011

Damn.

We shall call it:

GILAMESH.

>>22633976

You want a Puppy to fill that gap?

You realize the dog is non-magic and you know, a puppy? Not an unstoppable killing machine made of pure soul power and hell bent on protecting her?

Shibas don't get that big, bro. She needs a Caucasian.

>>22633931
We should name him "Excelsior".

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>>22634011

>Cute little Mongrel is quite the distraction.

Like Ilya.

>Wait, I'm confused. Are you having a strategy meeting, or asking about Dog names? Because I only see three votes and a lot of discussion and I have no idea what's up.

>>22634040

No dammit, I meant the bond.

Ilya's new Berserker is cognizant and able to hold a normal conversation. Her interactions with her would be similar to that of a manservant. Herucles' actions like a very big puppy; albeit a very powerful puppy.

>>22634147

Ask Rider
>>22634011
Ask Lancer
>>22633575
>>22633844
Ask for dog names
>>22633714
Ask e'erybody
>>22633593

>>22634147

Strategy.

We're just thinking of dog names ahead of it.

>>22633521
>>[x] Ask Lancer what he and his Master know.

>>22634147
>HOLY SHIT, ITS THAT TIME OF NIGHT AGAIN

>[X] Ask Rider

I believe that was our consensus last time as well, before the previous thread suicided.

>>22634185
>>22634197

That makes 3 lancers.

Two lancers too many.

Ask Arc

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>>22634252
Don't worry. At least will end up killing himself.

>>22634304
Where the fuck did my 'one' go? I KNOW I typed it.

"Let's start with Lancer." I say, turning to him. "Do you and your Master know anything?"

"Not much more than before." He responds with a shrug. "Saw a couple more markings that looked a lot like runes of binding." He frowns. "Or at least, that's what I think they were. Different runes than I'm used to, but I could kinda get the feeling."

"Runes of binding?"

"Yeah. Weird, if I had to guess it was somewhere between a bounded field and a geas. Like it has a set function for certain people, over a wide contained area."

"Huh. You can do something like that?" I ask Rin.

"You could. I can't be sure of how hard it would be without knowing EXACTLY what it does. Or how they intended to target only certain people in a range."

[ ] See if Lancer has any more detail.
[ ] Set that aside, ask someone else (insert choice).

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>>22634304
Indeed.

>>22634346

[x] Locations locations locations.

And identifying marks.

At least we'll know where they are and how they look like.

We'll just avoid those areas for now.

>>22634346
[x] See if Lancer has any more detail.
Mas informacion por favor.

>>22634346
>[ ] See if Lancer has any more detail.
Magic Runes laddie!

What exactly is going on in this thread? Could I get like a quick summary or something?

>>22634371
His eyes. His rage.
Oh lawd.

>>22634430
If you're asking because you haven't been reading any of this particular quest, well, at least go read the last four or five threads. You should be able to follow along loosely with that. Really, though, this quest has become such a clusterfuck that if you're just starting you might as well be trying to comprehend The Warp.

How much knowledge do you have of Fate/Stay Night and the Type-Moon franchise as a whole? Anime? VNs? If you know anything of that at all, that makes it much easier to sum this up. Otherwise, we're going to be here a while.

>>22634430

>Fifth Holy Grail War, some minor background detail changes gave Shirou something of a personality transplant and the Fourth War ended SLIGHTLY different.

>Then /tg/ got ahold of the revised ruleset.

>So far, noteworthy things that have been noticed:

>/tg/ cannot into Grail Wars. All servants are, to /tg/'s knowledge, still alive. With 5the exception of Fake Assassin getting replaced by a real one.

>Sakura isn't a Grail, Shirou may or may not be a Demon, Ilya accidentally summoned Cain as Berserker, possible Vampire(s) fucking with things more, and Ilya just got a puppy.

>Did I miss anything?

>>22634495

This Chair.

Arc.

Avenger.

>>22634495

Shirou setting himself on fire

>>22634495
The fact that Avenger's running about being a right cunt?

>Placer eckseu
Yes, captcha, we should have summoned Placer. Things would've have been much simpler then. And the 'eckseu' is sadly worthless without the 'kalibuh'.

>>22634495
>Ilya just got a puppy
Is it really hers now?

Also Shirou turning into a walking Pink Floyd music video was kinda important.

>>22634491

>I would like to note, for the record, that I am staying VERY true to Nasuverse lore.

>If you ignore the two tweaks done before my involvement, everything else is as on key as I can possibly manage.

>This includes the supposed 'character derailment' I heard someone complain about. There's a reason for all that, it's just not something I can out and say/you haven't discovered/figured out yet.

>>22634520
>>22634537
>>22634545

>Oh right, the next best thing to a living God is having lunch with you, Shiki's hatred for chairs is apparently approaching omnipotent force, and Avenger is fucking with everything.

>And Shirou is learning how to fix bikes, on something a few stages beyond 'hard' mode.

>>22634495
You missed how the one thing that got the closest to killing Shirou out of everything that's tried to kill Shirou has been a broken motorbike

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>>22634459
REMEMBER THE RAGE OF DIARMUID O' DYNA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjqtOOLIyQ

>>22634430
...Shit, that's right. I was working on a timeline, or at least a list of what's happened so far in F/SA. I'll get back to working on it during this thread.
I haven't even gotten through the second thread yet for the timeline. Fucking Skyrim, taking all my time.

>>22634589
And Taiga, Issei and Ayako are aware of Magus shenanigans.

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>>22634597
You bet your ass I will.

>>22634550

>You could say she has to share it.

>If you really want to see her cry.

>You monster.

>>22634590

>Oh right, forgot to mention this: The Blonde woman Shirou saw was Saber. That wasn't him hallucinating, that was actually what snapped him out of it since Saber wasn't there.

>>22634613

>You know what? Someone else take over the summary, I'm gonna get back to running.

>>22634613

Need to give Ayako a call.

She must be fuming a little at being left in the dark. Not to tell her stuff but at least to see how shes doing.

>>22634660
I thought she was still there at the house.

>>22634679

Rin sent her packing but Taiga is still lazing around.

So shes the only one in the know left out of everything.

>>22634626
>>22634597
Those eyes always did it for me... and the fact that he was screaming curses at them all and at the grail. He went down frothing mad... If he had a battle continuation/diehard like lancers are supposed to have I wouldn't have been surprised to see him warp spasm rage like cu chulainn.

Oh my god... has that been shirou's plan all along? To troll lancer so hard he warp spasms?

>>22634714
>"The first warp-spasm seized Cúchulainn, and made him into a monstrous thing, hideous and shapeless, unheard of. His shanks and his joints, every knuckle and angle and organ from head to foot, shook like a tree in the flood or a reed in the stream. His body made a furious twist inside his skin, so that his feet and shins switched to the rear and his heels and calves switched to the front... On his head the temple-sinews stretched to the nape of his neck, each mighty, immense, measureless knob as big as the head of a month-old child... he sucked one eye so deep into his head that a wild crane couldn't probe it onto his cheek out of the depths of his skull; the other eye fell out along his cheek. His mouth weirdly distorted: his cheek peeled back from his jaws until the gullet appeared, his lungs and his liver flapped in his mouth and throat, his lower jaw struck the upper a lion-killing blow, and fiery flakes large as a ram's fleece reached his mouth from his throat... The hair of his head twisted like the tange of a red thornbush stuck in a gap; if a royal apple tree with all its kingly fruit were shaken above him, scarce an apple would reach the ground but each would be spiked on a bristle of his hair as it stood up on his scalp with rage."

>>22634714
>Oh my god... has that been shirou's plan all along? To troll lancer so hard he warp spasms?
Let's go with that, sure.

>>22634735
We almost trolled gil to the point of warp spasm with >THE SHORTCUT

"Anything else you can give us? Details, locations?"

"Uh, details, not really. I guess I could take a camera around or something if I had one. Or I could show you."

"Then I'll settle for locations." I tell him.

"Underside of the bridge, near that one wrecked boat in the river, one at your school, train station, the one big mall, a couple outside Kirei's security net at the church, and one at the temple gate." He leans back, seriously concentrating. "A couple more near the western houses to the south on this side of the river, one at the docks, And a couple pointing in the direction of that forest we found her in." He tells you, pointing to Ilya."

".... Do we know any connections there? Significance?"

"You tell me." He says with a shrug. "Oh right, there was one that felt like a place where one might be near the river, but the whole place reeked of blood magic so bad I couldn't find the source."

"Blood Magic?" Rin asks.

"The Human sacrifice kind. Black Sacraments and the like." He says. "It's faded and old, but obvious as hell to anyone who knows how to look. Like the scars of old battle-wounds."

>Actions?

Someone want to throw me a link to archives of the previous threads?

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>>22634734
>the other eye fell out along his cheek
I always lose my shit at this point. I mean, really?! The fuck is the point in that?

>>22634714
>Oh my god... has that been shirou's plan all along? To troll lancer so hard he warp spasms?
Eh, sure. Why not.

>>22634838
Get a map of the area, mark on it the locations of the runes, see if a pattern emerges.

>>22634838

AC-Guy, did shirou run through any of those locations earlier that afternoon?

I think theres like only a single mall in the city.

>>22634839
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Fate/Stay%20Again

>>22634839
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Grail-kun
>>22634860
This.

>>22634839
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Fate/Stay%20Again

Haters gonna spam downvote.

This >>22634860

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>>22634641
>>You know what? Someone else take over the summary, I'm gonna get back to running.
Eh, you're just about done.

To make a long story short Sakura's been de-wormed, Rin is now Rider's master, Archer is a mole spying on Avenger, our Emiya Shirou is not the Emiya Shirou from the original FSN, Kotomine apparently isn't one of the villains, Saber is contracted to Caster, Illya's been moe the entire time, and just about everyone's crashing at Shirou's place now.

I miss anything that AC-Guy didn't cover?

>>22634838

Alright, I'm seeing a priority placed towards summoning locations of Servants during the 4th war, major battle sites, high traffic locations, and areas of magical significance.

So areas of high Prana and/or Prana disturbance. Anyone else want to give me their take?

>>22634860

There's a map on the Wiki. Be my guest if you think that would help.

>>22634876

I think he's been to all of those places, other than the boat wreck.

>>22634901
>>22634908
The first thread doesn't have the Fate/stay again tag. That's the only reason why I used a different tag.

>>22634938

Yes but I mean recently.

All of us were at the church the previous night and probably walked through that particular area. It might have been setup after that.

I mention Shirou's trip through town since thats the most recent time anyone has been near one of those locations and if so we can draw a conclusion the trap isn't meant to snare shirou.

>To answer the question, Shirou's been around most of those areas over the last few days, and he's crossed the bridge almost every day since the war started.

>He's done it twice today looking for the bike store. What impact this may or may not have, you don't know.

>Other than that, what's next?

>>22635038
>Other than that, what's next?

Ask Rider what she found

>>22634179
Herc was cognizant for most of F/SN. He just never said anything because Ilya used a command spell to shut him up before the game started

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>"Oh right, there was one that felt like a place where one might be near the river, but the whole place reeked of blood magic so bad I couldn't find the source."
>Like the scars of old battle-wounds.

>>22635038
Move on to Rider.

>>22635057
What? I didn't think Ilya used up any of her command seals. They covered her entire body in the VN, other than her head.

>>22635075
KUURU!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BIBwe6su24

>>22635057

>Although Ilya has incredible magical power, restraining Berserker's mighty spirit caused her great anguish. In retribution, she has kept him in a continual state of madness, rendering him unable to think coherently any time. However, Berserker has shown great devotion to Ilya, striving to protect her whenever she is threatened.

>>22635057
>cognizant
No? His prana drain was such that Illya punished him by leaving Mad Enhancement active almost the entire time she had him for a Servant.

It actually weakened his combat effectiveness by capping his stats and preventing him from using any sort of tactic or Noble Phantasm that didn't involve ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.

>>22635038
Talk to Ridah, she's got info.

>>22635057

Hes under the effects of Mad Enhancement.

The only time he thought anything in the VN was after the fight with Archer.

>>22635038
Use TALK on RIDER.

"Alright." I say, mulling that over before turning to Rider. "Did you see anything?"

"Nope."

"Well, you are wearing a blindfold." I concede. "but did you find anything?"

"Vampire related?" She asks. "Not really. I smelled blood in a few back alleyways, but that doesn't always mean 'vampire'." The shrugs. "I didn't make much headway there, so I tried tracking Avenger from his last known location."

"Any luck?"

"A little. I found evidence of him moving northwest through the forest from where he was apparently rescued by that other Archer." She frowns. "My search was cut short when I ran into him again."

"What happened?"

"He told me that Avenger said it was 'too early' for him to be found, and that apparently 'these things have a proper order'." Rider sighs heavily. "That was when he propositioned me as a way to pass the time." She then smiles, innocent and cheerful. "He backed off when I explained my idea of a good time to him though."

"Northwest... towards the temple?" Saber asks, looking between us."

"No." Rider responds. "I mean, yes but.... that doesn't 'feel' right. Wherever he was going, it wasn't there."

>Further questions for her? Or move on?

>>22635269
"So, what IS your idea of a good time anyway?"

>>22635269
"What's your idea of a good time?

Did he say anything indicative of his hidden identity?"

Take a look at the map, see what's in the Northwestish direction from the forest, see if there's anything interesting.

>>22635269
This. >>22635307

>>22635307
I second this

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Here's the map. While I work on the timeline, someone mark where the blood runes are, and where Avenger is going on the map.
>>22635307
Also, this.

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>>22635269
> "He backed off when I explained my idea of a good time to him though."

>>22635307
Uh... she ran into ARCHER, not Avenger.

>>22635269
Let's move on. If Archer says not to look into it yet, he means not to look into it yet. Unless this is Tsukihime logic time? Eh. I say head on to Arc's report.

>>22635430
It was 'that other Archer'. Gilgamesh.

>>22635424
I was just in another thread discussing the Sword of Truth series. I read that whole series.

I think I might have an idea.

"..... Exactly what constitutes a 'good time' for you?" I ask despite myself.

"Oh, I just exaggerated a few details." She responds with a coy laugh. "I'm just, you know, less than gentle at times."

"And this was enough to-"

Rin kicks me under the table. "You're not trying to...."

"I honestly have no idea. I don't think I want to, but I'm not entirely sure what it is I'm trying to avoid."

"Did nobody ever give you 'the talk' growing up?" Lancer asks with a smile.

"I'm fairly certain nobody gives THAT kind of talk." Rider says "Although they should. The world would be a more interesting place."

"Can we talk about literally anything else?" I ask, attempting to herd the conversation in a vaguely useful direction. Sakura and Rin seem to be grateful for my backpedaling, but Arcueid merely looks confused.

"I don't know what we're even talking about anymore. Is this like that baseball thing?" She asks, with a note of frustration.

"... What baseball thing?" I ask, because I'm apparently incapable of learning the first time around."

"This one time when I was with Shiki Ciel asked him something about distance and then they started talking about baseball. When I asked them about it, they shared one of those 'do we really want to explain this' looks and then went in a different direction." She looks away. "I hate it when they do that. I still have no idea what baseball had to do with anything."

>>22635492

I'm struck literally speechless. This woman that Rin seems quietly terrified of is incapable of metaphor? I shake my head to clear the thoughts. "If you want, we can talk about that later." I tell her. "Rider. Did you find any clues as to the Gold Archer's identity?"

"No." She hesitates. "Well, kinda. He uh.... he said something about how he was the richest person ever. I'm not sure if that was a hint or just him being egotistical."

>?

>>22635494
"Bill Gates qualifies for Heroic Spirit status?"

>>22635494
"Maybe he's King Solomon? He was a king, great in power and wealth?"

>>22635494
This >>22635517

>>22635494
The richest individual in the history of the world...

Genghis Khan or King Solomon, I'd say

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>>22635494
>he said something about how he was the richest person ever
File that under vaguely helpful.

[x] Arcueid's turn

>>22635494

Right...

[x] Ask Arc if she found anything.

Also see if she has a phone. Might be useful in keeping in touch

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>>22635492
>Is this like that baseball thing?
No, it's more like... shellfish.

>>22635494
"Well I doubt he's Mansa Musa, so I have no idea."

>>22635494
Get off our asses and Google "oldest legends" already. Or just ask our collection of Heroic Spirits about the oldest legends. Berserker already told us that he knows Archer is old old, so we might as well ask our collection of heroic spirits, mages, and a True Ancestor what the oldest legend is and hope one of them says "Surpassing All Other Kings" or "The Epic of Gilgamesh."

>>22635492
>>22635494
I feel a little bit bad that it took me about ten seconds to realize what they were talking about.

>>22635550
God dammit, no, not the shellfish, not the MOLLUSKS.

THE FLOWER OF THANATOS BLOOMS BEFORE ME, AND IT BATHES ME IN ITS RADIANT, STICKY PINK GLOW. I CAN FEEL MY ORIGIN OVERTAKING MY SENSE OF SELF. IT IS A PAIN OF FEELING NO PAIN. A PAIN OF FEELING NOTHINGNESS.

>>22635494
"Okay so far we have him calling himself the King of Heroes, and the richest person ever, and Berserker thinks he's really really old. Oh, and Saber, didn't you say something about him having loads of legendary weapons?"

>>22635649
>>22635552

Or we can just ask Archer the next time we meet him.

Our Archer.

"Alright, well I have a few guesses, but none of them fit." I say, going over the mental list. "Miss Arcueid? Did you discover anything?"

"Actually yeah, it's weird."

"What is?"

"Dead Apostles like to create semi-undead minions by draining people and using them as puppets. I found a couple, so there's definitely a vampire around."

"Awesome." I say, with as much sarcasm as I can manage. "What's the rest of the bad news?"

"Well it's weird. I could find evidence of a couple of feedings, and a few of those husks. But then it stopped."

"Stopped?"

"Like he just stopped feeding. But that doesn't make any sense. They HAVE to feed. The only reason the Vampire attacks would stop would be if they left or someone killed him. But in either case the husks wouldn't be here."

"You're sure?"

"Vampire needs to feed for their power, the power sustains the husks." She replies with a calm certainty. "Something weird is going on around here."

"Welcome to a week ago." Lancer mutters from the other end of the table.

>>22635695
Oh yeah, since we're not actually the same person that's not a time paradox!

>>22635702

"How long can they go without feeding? Could it be that it is just lying low for awhile?"

>>22635757

"Judging by the apparent power from the minions, it would last a day or two at most before suffering terrible consequences." Arcueid responds. "And it's been at least a week. He should be raving and ravenous by now, but it's.... silent."

>>22635702
"Could the vampire have gotten another source of blood, and the previous attacks only happened because the vampire didn't get that supply yet?"

It's theoretically possible that a vampire kidnapped 10-15 people, kept them alive, and only took enough blood to sustain themselves and not kill their food source.
I don't think it's likely that this is what's going on, but if a vampire needed to hide for some time and not reveal themselves through their thralls, this would be a possible method.

>>22635813
>another source of blood
Check blood banks for thefts?

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>>22635586
>THE FLOWER OF THANATOS

>>22635810
Those runes. Didn't they smell like old blood, like scars of a battlefield? Maybe the vampire is subverting a need for blood by draining life force directly through long-range boundary fields of some sort? Could the "special parameters" installed in the runes be designed to keep people from dropping dead in the streets, or to target people who wouldn't notice the effects of draining?

I'm gonna finish marking up that map, and get back on this.

>>22635702

"Can they get their power from another source instead of feeding? Say like Caster in her bounded field?"

>>22635702
>>22635810
"Maybe he.. found a coffin and went back to sleep to plan his revenge on the Van Helsing Family for the next 100 years?"

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I finished the map to the best of my ability based on the locations given in the previous conversation. The green is wherever the mall is. I can't recall if the "mall" is at the shopping district in the west or the commercial area in the east. The rest are generally correct, I think.

They're all in places where fights happened in the 4th and 5th wars in regular old F/SN.

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>>22635568
I... I still don't understand what they were talking about. I mean, being a pervert that I am I can make some good guesses, but... What exactly?
Pic unrelated.

>>22635928
"Talking about baseball", as in "first base, second base, third base"

>>22635928
"Bases" in Baseball. "Bases" in sexual encounters. Homerun is sex. Come on, Shirou, you have a quest to be in.

>>22635928
>baseball
>distance
>How far have you gotten?
>First base?
>Second base?
>Third base?
>Home run?
>Fuck. I'm an idiot.
That was almost my exact thought process.

>>22635813
>>22635831

"Possible." She concedes. "But kidnappings would leave their own sort of indicators. It's possible that he was just very careful about destroying evidence."

She frowns at the second question. "Can't be. Blood in a bag is.... lifeless. It's more of blood being a method of eating life than the blood itself." She frowns. "Or something of a combination between the two, actually. Anyway, it's like trying to make a sandwich with only bread."

>>22635847
>>22635854

".... Stranger things have happened." She tells me, but she seems highly doubtful of the prospect.

>>22635862

"Hibernation? His drones shouldn't be that active, but it makes a lot more sense than other options." She looks down at the table, deep in thought. "It could be he's just now waking up or going to sleep if that were the case."

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>>22635928
>Everything about that pic

>>22635946
>>22635939
>>22635936

Is it wrong that I find Arc's lack of knowledge/understanding and her frustration to be oddly adorable?

>>22635969
Nope.

>>22635969
It's pretty much in-character, too. She's borderline socially retarded as-is, we can't expect her to understand sexual encounters. Poor girl, Shiki's gonna give her the dick and she's gonna think she's being attacked.

Ha, oh wait. That might be for another reason.

>>22635984

Shiki already has. and curry-sempai too.

She actually mentioned something about Shiki having trouble unhooking her bra once.

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>>22635969
I think she my least favourite Tsukihime because she seems a bit sueish and I have a hard time trying to tell if she`s deliberately trolling or just completly retarded.

Also how come most Europeans in Anime appear like white, blond, blue-eyed japs? And I don`t even want to start about the portrayal of Germans..

>So uh, actions?

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So, ladies and gentlemen, the tactical meeting is concluded. What about dog names?

>>22636033
Well, unless Arcueid has anything more to say, I propose we get names for the puppy. I've been wracking my brains for an answer to the sleeping vampire and I've got nothing.

>>22636041

I guess I can second this

>>22636033
Lets sum up what we know about gold Archer and propose calling him Kin Kaiser until we know in game he's Gilgamesh

>>22636041

See if Arc has a phone number. Insert disclaimer that no, we're not hitting on her.

Then dog names with a side order of snacks.

>>22636054
This.

>>22635552
This, then dog names.

>>22636056
>Insert disclaimer that no, we're not hitting on her.
Well, we really can't. She's already given herself to Shiki. Unless you mean to avoid her knocking us a good one on the block for asking for her number. Though I doubt she has a phone. She can get anywhere she needs to be inhumanly quickly.

>>22636073

Yeah, but everyone else in the room will think we are considering the harem we've amassed.

>>22636032

She actually very deliberately blurs the line, playing dumb to trick people and cover up exactly HOW little she actually knows.

She's also aware of how bullshit powerful she is normally, and is equally aware that she's the ultimate extension of the world's rules as written, and the fact that raping/breaking/twisting the rules seems to be the driving motivation of freaking everyone in the universe.

I mean, having the best available stats doesn't mean much when half the named characters have a built in 'fuck the rules' button.

>>22635534

Mansa I Musa, King of Mali.

>>22636033
Well, I was thinking of using Caster's scrying for the vamp, but it might be a tall order for her prana saving state and Saber's contract upkeep.

So yeah, onward to dog names.

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>>22636041
I also vote for this.

>Dognames

Lancer
Cu
Diarmutt
Food

We haven`t trolled Lancer enough lately.

>>22636045
>I've been wracking my brains for an answer to the sleeping vampire and I've got nothing.
Perhaps it's feeding on a Servant? They bleed, more or less. And there is a Lesser Grail floating around, which could be held by said Servant, and provide the Servant with enough power to be fed upon consecutively.

>>22636096
Already said that.

>>22636073

It's more of to protect ourselves from the sharks in the room.

Guys, let's go talk to Kirei. He'll confirm/deny our suspicions of Archer's identity immediately, and when we tell him Arc's in town because the Vampire scares her HIS HEAD WILL LITERALLY EXPLODE INTO CANDY.

>>22636104
...We don't know the identity of True Assassin, do we?

>>22636104
Lesser...Grail? Dammit back to the wiki I have never heard of this.

>>22636103

While I don't vote for these as the actual name, I vote that we suggest them.

>>22636113

Oh god, this.

Fucking this.

In my head, I see Kirei, hear that little whistling noise Jiffy Pop makes before popcorn flies everywhere, and then fucking Candy.

Like a fucking overfull pinata.

I can't stop laughing.

>>22636113
Yeah, let's get in touch with him and have Tohsaka grill him.

>>22636113

For best performance, bring Arc along.

>>22636113

>[HIS HEAD WILL LITERALLY EXPLODE INTO CANDY.]

>You motherfucker, I was drinking soda. That fucking burns you cock-bite.

>>22636151

Juuust another manifestation of the E- rank luck, huh?

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>>22636103
>>22636122
Also, wear this expression while suggesting those.

>>22636146
And the puppy. Because not even he can resist angry Rin grilling him with Arc in the background while an adorable puppy looks on

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>>22636103
>Diarmutt
You're an amazing person.

>>22636114
True, but he's allied with Zouken, who isn't in with Avenger. I was thinking Avenger himself is the one being fed upon, though that's only if he didn't make the TA part of the Many. Pic related.

>>22636119
So, you've got your Einzbern hominculi who spontaneously combust into a Grail when enough Sservants die, and then you've got a Lesser Grail, which is what happens when a normal person gets some of the same treatments.

And actually, that brings one last point to mind: Shinji threw in with Avenger. Good money says he's been transformed.

>>22636158

>E rank is still ten times better than human average.

>I'm floating at somewhere around the 'g' spot.

You probably think I'm hiding a sex joke

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>>22636177

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>>22636186
You fu--my roommate is asleep you shit.

Was asleep. God dammit.

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>>22636186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnEowbJfZ4E

>>22636172
So... Lesser grail is some schmuck, who's been turned half homonculi, exploding into prana? Or at least having their prana levels jacked up

>>22636172

>So, you've got your Einzbern hominculi who spontaneously combust into a Grail when enough Sservants die, and then you've got a Lesser Grail, which is what happens when a normal person gets some of the same treatments.

... But... Only one servant has died.

I started thinking about all the other possible suspects for this unknown vampire, and now I'm suspecting Ayako for some reason. I'm clearly sleep-deprived.

>>22636235
Wait, idea. Do any of these husks have identities we might know? Is there anyone we should know about that is unaccounted for?

Also, is the dog a vampire? Because that would be just hilarious. No, I'm being silly. Ignore me.

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>>22636235
No. No that's fitting.

>>22636233
Maybe shinji got turned into a blood prana factory. Which means we still have a valid reason for every single ounce of explosives Dad left us!!!

>>22636172
I thought that you get the lesser Grail when you rip out Ilya`s heart and stuff it into Shinji like he`s a goddamn feastday turkey.

Also, wasn`t Zouken`s worm therapy in the first place for forcing Sakura into changing her origin so she more receptive to the Matou magic as well as making it easier for Zouken to turn her womb into the second grail?
It seems pretty clear to me that Zouken gave up on trying to actually win the Grail War after the 3rd War and was instead busy with creating his own Grail.

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>>22636212
>some schmuck
Pretty much. Pic rela-SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILER.

>>22636233
They've still got crazy prana levels. Illya has hundreds, if not thousands, of circuits in her body, and WALKING SPOILER has a lot too. They need a lot of power to hold the Heaven's Feel, which represents even more.

>>22636246
>>22636235
These both are horrifying and absurd to be true. And awesome.

>>22636273

Yes, but they're both sitting in the same room with us. Right now.

Not being eaten by vampires or having their hearts ripped out and stuck into Shinji or anything.

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>>22636186
>>22636208
Jeeze I dont even have to be around to post this stuff to bother AC-Guy anymore

>>22636273

>not posting step it up sempai

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>>22636235
>>22636247
>AC-Guy pulling a second Satsuki on us

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>>22636273
>>22636303
>Not posting the image you're chiding someone for not posting.

>>22636273
Oh.

BOMB THE MAKER OF THIS IMMEDIATELY, UNLESS THEY'RE DEAD/DEAD. THEN BOMB THEIR BODY AFTER WE REMOVE IT FROM IST GRAVE!!!

>>22636235

Thats it. Pulling her into the fold again.

>>22636273
Boy that filename sure makes sure to not give away the spoiler. But no, really, anyone reading this quest thread has forfeited the right to spoiler protection.

Anyhow, this unknown vampire is going to drive me up a wall.

>>22636307

Waiting for some one else to Step Up to the plate.

>>22636287
Here's the thing, the pieces of a previously existing Grail are used to create a Lesser Grail. Zouken never got the chance to play with his own. And yet there's still one in play, probably. Shinji might be a Grail, or we're going full Tainted Ideals and it's Shirou/Avenger. Because I havevn't beaten that horse to death yet.

>>22636303
Dark Sakura is in the "D" section and Step it Up is in the "S", which do you think I saw first?

>>22636327

...

Do we know what Kirei DID with all of those prana based rapeworms he took out of Sakura?

>>22636338
I would like to assume he destroyed them, but...basement full of corpses. No idea.

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>>22636338

>kirei not working with Gil but WORKING WITH THE VAMP

>>22636349

But he doesn't have a basement full of corpses this time.

>>22636356

He does, he just claims Some Mysterious Other Person killed them all.

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>>22636273
>>22636307

There are way more terrifying things out there than Dark Sakura.

>>22636338
Nah, he wouldn't do that. Besides, I don't think enough times has passed. Plus I'm 87% sure that he or Caster destroyed them

I have NO idea what the fuck is going on anymore, I'm just imagining AC-guy going
>uh
>what
>how on earth would you come to that conclusion
at this whole tangent.

So yeah waiting until he posts again.

>>22636356
Oh, right, right. Wait, then that pretty much tosses out him being the asshole keeping Gil sustained. Unless the vampire is keeping Gil sustained. Which leaves a precious few suspects. Two most likely are Kirei and Avenger.

>>22636384
Someone has stumbled over the answer at some point in this discussion and we passed it up with brazen idiocy. I know it.

>>22636373
>that outfit
11/10 would bang and then have my head caved in

>>22636373
>terrifying
That's a funny way to spell "arousing", anon.

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>>22636373
You know nothing of terror.

>>22636393
Wouldn't surprise me that we've ignored the right answer. AC-guy did say in a previous thread that there were two story-breaking suggestions that we can pull off.

"Alright then. I need to go and consult Kirei about all this." I look at Arcueid "Care to come along?"

"May as well." She says with a shrug. "What's he like?"

"..... Intense." I answer honestly. "I'm pretty sure he can smell fear, and a part of him enjoys the not so gentle prodding he gives people to get them back on the right path."

"That's an interesting way to put it." Rin comments, looking at me. "I mean, it's not wrong, but...."

"I'll be honest, something about him just bugs me. I almost feel like I'm looking for an excuse to hate him or something." I sigh, looking over at the newest addition to the family. "Oh well. If you guys want, we could probably use some help naming the dog."

"Dog?" Lancer asks, perking up slightly. He leans over and smiles. "Oi." The pup stares at him, and growls. Lancer growls back, and the dog barks angrily, to which Lancer laughs. "You've got a good one there kid. Brave and smart."

"You can just tell?" Arcueid asks.

"I'm good with dogs." He responds with a shrug. "I like dogs. You always know where you stand with a dog, it's people who get weird and complicated."

Berserker leans in with a smile. "And you haven't named him yet?"

"Nope. Do you have any suggestions?"

"Dogs are named for many things. A trait they exhibit, for events or people significant to the dog. Or people and places from folklore. There's more than a few heroes who would be honored to know you wanted to name your pet after them."

"Damn straight." Lancer comments.

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>>22636412

>>22636420

"Choice is your Malik." He says with a shrug. "Your pet should have a name that means something to you. Unless of course you were just searching for a convenient label, but you may as well call it 'dog' then."

".... This is really a big deal?" Rin asks, confused, and everyone turns to look at her. "I mean, new dog's alright it's just... there's a war on? With Vampires and messed up cheating magic interfering with everything?"

"Sadly, she has a point." Lancer sighs. "Perhaps we'll think of one along the way but...."

"We should talk to Kirei." Rin says looking at me. Lancer and Berserker both want to come with, along with Arcueid and Ilya.

As we start to leave, Saber calls out to me. "Yes?" I ask, returning to her. It's... weird not feeling our connection anymore.

I wonder if I've been avoiding her because of it.

"Bedivere."

"... Pardon?"

"You said you wanted suggestions for the dog." She responds looking away. "I know he'd like it, and it's a good name. I mean, it's up to you of course, but...."

"Right." I tell her with a smile. "I'll think about it. It is a good name, but I get the feeling Ilya's going to be the one to convince."

"Perhaps." She responds with a smile. It's a small moment, but it makes me feel better.

Soon we're headed out, and Ilya tells me that she'll meet the rest of us at the bridge as she goes with Berserker to get a leash and collar for our new dog. I also note that he's following her closely even without a lead.

>Talk? To? About?

>>22636426

Talk, in general, about those mysterious runes. we're gonna go right by one going to the church, right? Maybe Rin or Arc'll have an idea if they get a look at it, or we could do our prana feeling thing.

>>22636413

>One of them was 'absurd shortcut to victory' and the other was more like 'completely break the rules of the setting'.

>Since then, a third 'dammit, that's way too effective of a contingency plan' has been proposed to me in private.

>And no, I'm not hinting at anything here, or giving you ideas. I'm just saying that when the more you know about the rules of the Nasuverse, the easier the setting is to break.

>>22636420
>I'm good with dogs.
>I like dogs
This makes me laugh, for reasons only those familiar with his Legend will get.

Its a good chance im just being paranoid but i still dont trust the dog, im just waiting for him to turn into a evil version of Iggy stand and all

>>22636466
It should make you cry; Setanta got a bum deal.

>>22636477
>TONIGHT YOU.

>>22636438
Good ideas.

>>22636426
Yes. Rin. Why DOES Rider wear a blindfold?

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>>22636466

>>22636486
>It should make you cry
I have a fucked up sense of humor. You kinda have to when you're a paramedic, or you'll tear yourself up over shit.

>>22636477
The dog was given to us for no effort on our part, with no struggle to get it to follow us. Be paranoid. Ilya's not going to be at the bridge. Calling it.

>>22636451
It's been so long since I've read a T-M work. I'm so hazy on the minutiae of the setting. It's frustrating.

>>22636477
>im just waiting for him to turn into a evil version of Iggy stand and all
Thats a terrifying thought. Doubly so because we don't have the manly pecs necessary to deal with such a problem.

>>22636494
Seconding asking about Rider's blindfold.

>>22636494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OemNp6hgX4&t=00m01s

>>22636477
It is an adorable puppy that has been adopted by our little sis. If one hair on its pelt is hurt, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PERP IS SUFFICIENTLY MANGLED. Unless its a little swat on the nose (very light swat) the teach him that peeing on the carpet is bad. Unless the carpet is unknown vamp, Avenger, or lancer. I'd say Gil, but he'd kick the dog, and all the resulting collateral damage of the ensuing fight would be bad.

O ya i said this a few threads ago but it was late so im not sure anyone saw it

I believe our shirou was created out of the grails wish to live from the 4th war. it explains why our soul is so screwey and our relation to avenger

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>>22636494
>>22636523

Shouldn`t we rather ask about that weird trampstamp on her forehead?
I do get the Blindfold and the fetishy clothing because "Hurr Shinji" but what`s with the red thing on her forehead?

>>22636494
INB4 we get cold-shouldered on the issue because it's lolcritical to her identity. Also, in before we use this data to extrapolate her identity anyway. Sorry, Rin babe, but we gotta keep ourselves safe so we can give you the dick later.

>>22636574

I love that the blindfold and minidress are just attributed to Shinji being a lecherous douche.

Also, with Rin as a master, Rider is probably the strongest servant in the war. Even Gil only has Mana B or C. That means petrification time.

>>22636576
>INB4 we get cold-shouldered on the issue because it's lolcritical to her identity.

We've already seen her goddamn PEGASUS. There isn't exactly a long list of people she could be once we know about that (though it doesn't seem Shirou is all that well versed in mythology). Seriously, her name is in the second sentence of the Pegasus wikipedia entry.

>>22636504

"So Rin, why does rider wear the blindfold?"

"Something to do with her legend." She responds. "She won't tell me exactly what it is because she insists that I'm only supposed to be her Master until Sakura's fit again. Which should be in a day or two at the latest."

"Ah." I look away. "No real trust then?"

"The little arrangement we have is semi permanent, but it's not exactly stable." Rin responds. "It's like a house of cards. It looks nice now, but there's still the matter of people gaining their wishes. Everyone who wants a wish is still out for blood."

"....Yeah." I say after a moment looking away. Maybe it was childish, but I didn't really want to have to kill anybody.

"....You're not a warrior at all, are you?" Lancer asks me, glancing back my way.

"I can fight."

"Yeah, you're a fighter. A warrior is something different. A warrior is someone who can take that extra step and kill, willingly commit that act. You don't want to."

"..... There's something wrong with not wanting to kill people?"

"In the general sense? No." He answers, shaking his head. "It's a fine sentiment to wish for peace. Admirable even. But when war comes knocking at the door you can't close your eyes and try to wish it away."

"..... Do you have a wish?" I ask him.

"Yep. Made a promise right after I was summoned. Honor-bound to deliver."

"Never learned your lesson about the whole 'Geas' thing?"

>>22636650

"Nah, no magic. Just a promise. Means a lot more than any spell." We walk a little further in silence. "If you don't mind, I'm going to fade for a little while. Less of a burden on my Master."

I nod, and we continue along. The bridge isn't far now, and I can see Ilya already waiting in the distance.

>Anything else? I know you wanted to have someone look at the/a mark, but that'll be right after this bit.

>>22636641
>her name is in the second sentence of the Pegasus wikipedia entry.
English or Japanese? Because if Shirou looks it up he'll be reading the Japanese one.

>>22636641
Well the other issue is that we haven't bothered, you know, thinking about it in-character. If we did that (kinda like we are about to), it would be out in the open fairly quickly.

>>22636636
Yes, but he would still make it so he turned to gold instead of something as common as stone.

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>>22636636
That reminds me..

Genderbent Shinji and Issei

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>>22636659

Tell Rin that she needs to let loose a little.

Having that stick up her butt all the time is not healthy.

>>22636659
Suggest to nobody in particular that you want to name the dog Perseus. Make peace with our creator of choice.

I'm kidding. Don't fucking do that.

>>22636713

Man, why were all the Greeks such dicks? She wasn't even DOING anything. She was just kinda hanging out in her cave being hard to kill.

So HEROES EVERYWHERE.

>>22636740
Because Greeks were a people that demanded heroes for everything. They were a people obsessed with heroics and Aesopic tales of people, well, sticking to ideals in logically impossible situations and winning for no other reason than the fact that they're the "good guys".

>>22636740
Well, to the Greeks, being a Hero was all about Greatness, and Greatness did not mean being good.

>>22636763
Shirou could sure use that fucking hint right about now.

>>22636659

No one's come up with anything serious, so seems we're ready.

>>22636778

Shirou wants to Save People. The fact that this conforms roughly to "Being a Superhero" is secondary.

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>>22636740
> She wasn't even DOING anything. She was just kinda hanging out in her cave being hard to kill.

Weeeeeelll, the Nasuverse Version if her is quite a bit different.

>So do we have a course of action? Because all I've got as a direct suggestion is a 'Descartes' post that's gonna get Shirou's shit slapped for being a hypocrite.

>>22636793

Go hang out at the bridge. Ask Lancer where that rune was and take a look at it while we wait on Ilya.

>>22636793
>Imokaywiththis.jpg

>>22636793
Well, isn't Arcueid with us? it's daytime, isn't it? Shirou should be bothering her with a stupid question related to that. Mainly why she isn't dying right on the spot. If you want to add a little conversation before we get a move on.

>>22636792
And apparently the Nasuverse version of Perseus is retarded, too.

>>22636808
Because he is.

OH NO I WANT TO BE A GREAT HERO AND SAVE EVRRYONE-
>It can`t be helped.

>>22636801
This. May as well poke our nose where it doesn't belong while we're here.

>>22636823

When the gods give you, what was it, six Noble Phantasms? You can generally afford not to think too hard about how you deal with most things.

>>22636740
>why were all the Greeks such dicks
Because they learned from their gods, who were dicks of the highest degree.

Medusa was once a priestess of Athena beautiful in body and mind. One day while walking by the seashore she was spotted by Poseidon, who was enraptured by her form. He followed her to Athena's temple, and rather than respect the sanctity of his niece's place chose to invade it, and raped Medusa on Athena's altar. The goddess saw this, and was enraged by Poseidon's assault on her temple, which she believed must have come about because Medusa had tempted the god. Athena cursed her for being raped, stole her beauty and warped her mind, and cast her into the ocean.

I believe the Gorgons found her later, and adopted her as their sister.

>>22636792
Of course this is Nasuverse so the cool tragic stories get steamrolled for animushit and genderbending. YesIamstillbitteraboutArthurdammit.

>>22636849
Anyone NOT bitter about Arthur is a saberfag and their opinions are invalid anyways.

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>>22636823
She refers to him as a more capable version of Shinji with huge mommy issues.

What pretty much also fits the mythological perseus, sooo.. there you have it.

>>22636810
This. And mention the Kin Kaiser idea, because differentiating between archer and Gil is getting annoying and confusing(in character). OOC, how mad would Gil be if we started calling him Kin Kaiser? Like, Shortcut levels of fury?

>>22636876
Isn't Kin Kaiser 'Golden King'? He'd probably be fine with that.

>>22636871
>blue eyes and red hair
I'm almost absolutely sure red hair was an almost fantastical idea back in those days in that area. Am I wrong about that?

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>>22636849
>>22636865
Blame Takeuchi. He's the one who convinced Nasu to go to a male protagonist. To be fair, that DID lead to Shirou, and trough him to the whole "living solely for other people never thinking of yourself" theme that runs through all of F/SN, so there is an upside to it.

>>22636871
Which I don't care for much. If anything, Perseus is one of the Greek heroes whose morality best maps on to our own.

Now, if it were Jason she might have something. Theseus too, maybe, but Theseus mostly just forgot to raise the right color sail and broke his promise with Ariadne. Of course Hippolyta was supposed to be pretty hot so who knows what the real story there is. Hm, I think I'll re-read The Bull From the Sea, been a while.

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>>22636849
>>22636865

I think I´m way more bitter about Mordred not being a trap anymore for Apocrypha.
They also changed her to being a good guy err-..girl, instead, and she is now the archetypical Saber Stand-In for that version of the Grail War in place of Jean`D Arc.

You may rage now.

>>22636905

Whaaaat?

>>22636905
Various interpretations of Mordred have him as not-a-dick, just possessed of extreme father/entitlement issues.

Also, Mordred's gender was never confirmed in any way. The original pronouns were all neutral.

>>22636905
Oh what the actual fuck. Also, I remember when I first read F/SN my first theory for Saber was Joan of Arc. I'm amazed JoA hasn't come into play at some point. That would be a hell of a fun one to play with. If she's been referenced, it was in one of those PSP games I ahven't played yet.

>>22636922

She has. She was "Saver" in Fate/Extra.

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>>22636915
Yep.

>>22636849
>>22636865

>I'll be totally honest: The implications of Arther having secretly been a woman is actually an interesting 'what if' take on the mythos.

>I don't have any particular hatred/dislike for Saber or the implications, but some small part of me will never completely forgive Nasu/Takeuchi for immediately ruining the potentially interesting twist for everyone by awkwardly shoving pornography into the mix.

>Which I know makes it look like a hypocritical paradox. Without the porn 'Saber' as we know her would never have existed. There would've been know reason for her to be swapped without the coincidental adding of an acceptable penis-friendly hole.

>But fuck me. Literally the only thing that bugs me more in the entirety of Nasu's everything is Gil wearing Plate-mail. I know owning a sword that isn't part of the universe is a million times the bullshit in every way, but plate-mail?

>Plate?

>Fucking seriously?

>Alright, rant over. I feel better now that I got it out of my system. I'll start typing the next bit.

>>22636905

>The 'actually a woman' thing kinda makes sense in that no male DNA went into 'her' creation. Which is a byproduct of, and therefore an acceptable target for, 'HURR DURR JAPS RUINED CAMELOT' shitstorms.

>And Honestly? I think Mordred was always a little bit more of a victim than a villain.

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>>22636922
Joan of Arc has been represented.

>>22636929
No, someone else is Savior.

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>>22636905
Mordred was genderless originally, wasn't s/he?

And I'm sorry, I can't rage about Apocrypha, Kotomine Shirou is a thing that exists in it.

Servant Assassin is Semiramis if you're curious. Funny how Hassan isn't the True Assassin anymore, isn't it?

>>22636939

>Why did it auto-correct from 'no' to 'know'?

>Why do I still have autocorrect on? It does nothing but fuck with me.

>>22636905
Y'know what I really wanna see?
New Nasuverse stuff that ISN'T just more magus stuff. I mean they're cool and all, but I wanna see more of the Church and all their shit.
>>22636942
Well, Apocrypha IS an alternate universe, so...

>>22636941

Ah. Right. Derp. Sorry, I just remembered that she was one of the irregular classes, and my brain went "Saver". I actually check, and she was Ruler in Fate/Apocrypha.

>>22636942
>Kotomine Shirou
God damn it gets me every time. Holy shit, Nasu, make some new fucking characters. Almost every character in KnK was a recycle of a character from Tsukihime or F/SN, and now you're doing the same shit cranked to 11. It's getting out of hand.

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>>22636922
Lower right corner.

>>22636942
Where are my eyebrows? WHERE ARE MY EMIYA EYEBROWS!?

>>22636939
Ahh, fair enough. I'd actually have been interested in that take myself but the handling of it was pretty bad. Fate/Zero did it well though, but the main VNs in the Nasuverse are all the weakpoints in the canon now. The fanworks and side stories are much more interesting.

But oh man imagine if they'd used The Crystal Cave and The Golden Bough as inspirations for FSN.

>>22636941
Jean is Ruler, I don't think there's a Saver/Savior in Apocrypha just yet.

>>22636976

Well that's because KnK predates both Tsukihime and F/SN. But yeah, he does tend to stick to fairly set archetypes.

>>22636941
>>22636977

Am I the only one bothered by the 'not helmet' she wears?

>>22636976
1) Apocrypha is NOT written by Nasu
2) Kara no Kyoukai existed as a series of light novels BEFORE Tsukihime and F/SN
Get your facts straight kid.

>>22636988
Neither was Fate/Zero. This is why they are good.

Also, Shakespeare is Caster. HAAAA HAA.

>>22636942
>167cm/51kg
>89/58/87
Whatever she's made of it's hella light and fluffy.

>>22636986
No, but I'm more bothered by Jack the Ripper being a loli and Spartacus wearing a bondage outfit.

>>22637002
She's made of ether.

>>22637007

Jack the Ripper at least has some historical precedent for possibly being a woman. But that character design is fucking stupid, yes.

>>22636976
I don't think that Shirou is Shirou. He doesn't look like him at all.