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The year is 3040, and you are Daniel Holdt, Battlemech Engineer.

Your jaw hurts, but you're alive. And maybe a little tipsy by now, considering everyone is celebrating your recent victory over the pirate group the 'Eights', who while routed, still have your boss as a hostage, and now you have to wait till the local garrison finds their HQ so they can extract him, dead or alive.

In other news, the HZP seems to be on-track, and you seemt to have acquired a new relationship, or at least a more complicated version of a previous one. If you ever write a letter to your parents, it's going to be an awfully strange read. But soon you'll have the blueprints complete for the HZP; the deadline is so close you can taste it. And you're going to beat it, it seems. And not only that, your first offering is going to be something the Inner Sphere hasn't seen before. Sure, you haven't chosen the weapons yet, or set the armor configuration, but you have already made potential leaps and bounds in Battlemech engineering. If successful, your designs could influence future generations to come. Who knows what new strides in design could be made based on your work?

At least, that's what you think as you drink with the garrison troops and your own crew. You only lost a few people, all things considered, and the pirates were essentially crushed. You've come away with a new 'Mech for your trouble too: a worse-for-the-wear Spider, which you're unsure the state of beyond 'missing a lot of important stuff'. You speculate that its engine is the real golden nugget here; you could use it to design a much heavier chassis than you are currently capable of. Well, assuming it's in one piece.

The party seems to be dying down now, Daniel. And all you have are you thoughts as the garrison troops depart, leaving a single detachment to guard the depot till the Eights are all rounded up, and everyone else heads off to rest up/relax/cry/mourn/whatever. What do you plan to do with the rest of your day?
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>>22628602

Archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=mechengineer+quest

or just search for MechEngineer Quest on foolz.
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>>22628602
Let people know we're heading back to our room tp work, bring some alcohol with, and start fiddling with the armor.
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GET TO WORK.

We've already fought for our lives, now let's fight for the future!
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>>22628602
Get back to work. That deadline is fast approaching.
We've got the myomer for the legs done, so lets finish up the arms. Then we can work on weapons.
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>>22628728
>>22628768

You light a smoke, and wave goodnight to everyone, turning to head to your office for some much-needed work and stress. The HZP isn't going to build itself, and you really don't have anything to offer anyone who's lost a friend in the fighting besides the condolences you already have, and your promise to engrave the names of the fallen on the chassis of the first several HZPs that roll out of the depot.

Arriving in your office, you notice the window on the battle-side has been shattered, and wind is blowing in, throwing your papers all over the damn place.
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>>22628840
Speaking of which, how far away is the deadline again?
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>>22628887
Remove shoes, use as paperweights until someone fixes it.
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>>22628887
Well we can't work with that happening. Take a blanket or something, stretch it tight over the hole, and secure it to cover it, we'll board it up later or have it repaired. Stupid wind.
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>>22628887
Fix the window. Primarily with duct tape.
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>>22628893

(about 5 days I believe)
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>>22628887
Shit.
Check that our computer is okay. If it, and the data, are unharmed, then just get a sheet of plywood or something and duct tape it over the broken window. We can get it fixed later, right now we need to work.
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So let's see what we got so far

>Almost revolutionary armored actuator design
>Revolutionary myomer weave
>Small, insanely fast intimidating light mech that's built like a brick shithouse
>Modular torso that's easily repairable and easy to swap out
>Roomy and intelligently designed hallway cockpit design that presents a narrow front to the enemy.

This is before the Clan Wars and the adoption of Omnimechs right?

Holy shit, this little fucker might actually give a lance of Clanners a run for their money, y'know, disregarding the clanners enhanced weapons.
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>>22628957
Yeah, and we've got 10 whole years before the Clans come. So it might end up that they come here and get their asses handed to us by our mechs.
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>>22629018

~raped softly.
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>>22628919
>>22628922
>>22628923
>>22628950

Computer seems fine, and you grab one of your blankets, using a little duct tape, and cover over the window.

With that little distraction out of the way, you gather your papers, thanking your lucky stars that the printouts you made with your drafting printer are too heavy to be blown around when rolled up, and stuff everything into your currently-empty file cabinet.

Cracking your knuckles, you sit down, and get ready to work.

All you have left are to do the arm myomer layout, the armament, armor configuration, and plan conduit for the electrical systems.

What do you want to work on first?
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>>22629061

Arm myomer, then electrical systems, weapons and armor come last.
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>>22629061
Let's finish off the myomer, we can't put armor on until that's taken care of. Armament is dependent somewhat on armor, and the myomer uses electricity so we want them laid out before we try to hook wires up.

Use our notes and thoughts on the legs to influence the arms, we want them to be invincible as hell as well.
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>>22628957
>>22629018
>>22629103

I'm trying to imagine this shit being put into the design of a 65+ Ton mech way later down the road.

It's so beautiful, and filled with rape.
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We should give janine a call, could always use our muse
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>>22629155

Nah, that's getting into creepy territory.

We shall be the silent hero this night, safeguarding everyone's future.
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>>22629061
Arm myomeres. See if we can use the myomer design from the legs on the arms.
Is this where we do the arm-locking for red-dot sights or is that when doing the electrical and weapon systems?
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>>22629143
Well, we'd have to fiddle with stuff, we wouldn't just do a scale-up of it, square cubed law and all that. But sticking with similar design themes could work very well.
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The best time of the week has come early.
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>>22629187

The center lock systems were in the actuators, that's already done.

The actuators are the mounts we put the arms ON.
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>>22628957

It's like an Urbanmech Swarm, except faster, more heavily armed, more durable, and easy to repair, and has limbs so it isn't useless for building up fortifications or engaging in a desperate brawl.
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>>22629143
>>22629103
>>22629088

You pull up the files and prepare to lay out the arm myomer bundles.

You have several options here. You can simply port your annotations from the legs into the arms, do the math, and slap the same systems into them that the legs have (0 modifier), or you can try to add something more. Options include: better lifting, modular hands that can be replaced by other tools for construction etc., linkages for the same, and so on.

>>22629187

Yes, this is the point where the module for the arm-center lock for ironsighing is added. Though you have to decide if you need that, depending if you want to use arm-mounted weapons or keep them open for punching and utility.
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Work on the myomers, I think we've discussed it enough already in previous threads that all it should come down to is /tg/ dice.
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>>22629280

WHY DO YOU MAKE US CHOOSE BETWEEN THE IMPOSSIBLE.

Umm...uh, fuck, would the modular hand systems allow for it to be used in field-repairs of other mechs?
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>>22629280

I should add that if you port the leg layout over, the arms get the same Quirk. Your roll was that good.
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>>22629322

(Nah, see the archive link in the first reply.)
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>>22629280
I'm tempted to say just port the leg designs over to the arms: let's not get too ahead of ourselves on our first product. Otherwise, we'll have less innovations left for the next one!
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>>22629280
Port the legs over, I want that durability. Though nothing in the leg design stops us from making it have modular hands and making it more versatile at things outside of combat, so if we can add those as well.
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>>22629307

(You can put things like spot-welders, wrecking balls, and whatnot on the arms. You usually only find such linkages on IndustialMechs, but you have the option.
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>>22629280

Let's go for the modular hands. At least try to figure a way to put themin without reducing arm structural integrity. I'm sure it's possible.
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>>22629280

Port the leg designs, our legs are basically indestructible outside completely turning them to slag right?
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>>22629370

(adding extra stuff adds modifiers, but yeah, it's a straight roll to flat give the arms the same Quirk the legs have)
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>>22629405

(well, not exactly. They are really easy to repair, and have less chance of being incapacitated due to minor to moderate damage)
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Would heavier lifting allow us to potentially fit more weapons on them?
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>>22629441

(Sadly no, what it does is allow you to lock the elbows and shoulders in a way that lets you carry 10% more weight than normal only when carrying things not mounted on the 'Mech.)
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God, I'm so torn between straight porting and modular hands.
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>>22629553
I'm going to go with Keep It Simple Stupid and not add any more features for now.
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>>22629553

(Well either way, I'm assuming you're porting the leg configs, so it's just a question of modifiers.)
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>>22629553

How about we straight up port the keg myomer, give it weapon arms . . . And then give the fucker bayonet style arm blades? To carry on the chrysalid style design?

Who's with me?
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>>22629369
>>22629370
>>22629405
>>22629594

Do the 'KISS rule' folks have it then?
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>>22629280

I Say We be lazy and just port the Legs. The Dice Gods Hate this quest already, No need to tempt them with our hubris
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>>22629660

Yeah sure.
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>>22629640

(blades add weight sadly, so if you wanted them, you'd have to consider them weapons in addition to all the other systems you want to add for combat)
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>>22629663

Fuck the gods, lets tempt them with our hubris!

I vote for modular hands!
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MODULAR HANDS.
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I vote for Modular hands, it's a garrison mech, so construction abilities would be really fucking handy if a garrison ever needed to set up extra buildings or blockades.
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>>22629692

If done right with the maths and the improvements in myomer distribution and heat efficiency, would there be a significant weight difference between blades on the arms and the modular hands?

Also I just saw that last time around I said "keg" myomer, is it possible to build a mech out of ke- I forgot about the urbie . . . Nevermind.
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>>22629718
>>22629708
>>22629693

(Well hell, okay. Maybe I miscounted. Rolling on this modification next post, added difficulty is 5, since the tech already exists

to explain how it works: these are not 'omnihands', they are hand actuators and wrists that can be detached and replaced more easily than standard hands which are hardwired to the chassis, and you have to cut free to modify. they allow for standardly produced commercial construction hand replacement attachments to be put on the 'stub' for utility purposes.)
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>>22629790
Well, as long as it's simple... OK.
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>>22629778

(yes, because blades need to be measured in tons to damage 'Mechs, but the modular allowances for hands don't, they are much lighter, for these >>22629790 reasons.
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>>22629790

So...perfect for a Garrison' mech that may or may not be used as a defunct construction mech in the event of a siege or for cheapo-cities.
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>>22629824

defacto* not defunct.

Phone, you are several shades of retarded at times.
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>>22629824

Yep. SKVOREK TOUGH, SKVOREK ADAPTABLE.
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Rolled 100

>>22629838
>>22629824
>>22629803

You decide that the HZP should focus on appealing to the PDFs and garrison forces that will likely be getting the design, since it is foremost made to be easy to maintain and cheap, so you opt for the modular hands while porting in your leg innovations.

(rolling for modular hands + porting leg design, +5 modifier, lower is better)
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>>22629976

>lower is better
>roll the highest we possibly can

well... fuck
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>>22629976
I certainly hope this counts as a 00 instead of a 100.
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>>22629976
Yep. MechEngineer Quest everyone.
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>>22629976

No.

Just.

No.
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>>22629976
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>>22629976

Yep, that's Mechengineer quest.
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>>22629976

How about we just let that flip over and count it as a 10?
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>>22629976
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>>22629976
WHY

ARE

YOU

CURSED
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>>22629976
Good.
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Wohoo time for engineering! I need to get some food but will be back shortly.

Just to remind you guys, we only need a saleable design at this point. What we are designing now just needs to be complete so that we can show it to the investors. There will be some time between then and the first production prototype where we can go back and add the finishing touches. I have all sorts of ideas for little innovations we can include.

>rolls 100
It's like we really ARE a drunk engineer who just got punched in the head!
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>>22629976

Ugh, try again anontech?
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>>22629991

(sadly... no)

>>22629989
>>22630007

You work for hours, and finally manage to get the modular hand plates working properly, and all tests go green.

(Negative Quirk! You have managed to get your modular arms working, but at a bit of a cost. The system functions 100%, but your arms are packed in such a way that they cannot accept any non-structural systems now. The HZP gains the Negative Quirk: Weapon Incompatibility: Arms. This means you cannot mount weapons in the arms as they are, but they function as intended 100%)
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>>22629976

Well I'm getting shitfaced tonight.
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>>22630099

No.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
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>>22630099
So, they're completely useless for their intended purpose of carrying weapons for the PDF? Welp. Fuck it, let's become a 100% civilian technologist, then accidentally invent a device that is useless for peaceful purposes but kills stuff real good.
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>>22630099
I guess it's not too bad.
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>>22629976

How abouy a second time around?
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>>22630099
>cannot mount weapons in the arms
NO! MY AC/2s!
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Rolled 67

>>22630099
Smoke a couple cigarettes, save this to a separate folder called "FOLDER OF SHAME", revert back to what we had before and smack our head into a wall.

Did they have the awesome durability that our myomer system is supposed to apply?

Rolling for no reason.
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>>22630150

BITCH I WILL MURDER YOU.
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>>22630147

Okay I am just bad at this . . . Never mind.
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>>22630153
Yes, verily, we shall put this design somewhere very dark and yet near at hand, that we may ever remember this dreadful failure.
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>>22630194
Might be okay on one arm...
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>>22630130
>Keanu Reeves is an Anagram for Eureka Seven
Holy crap.
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>>22629693

I TOLD YOU.

I TOLD YOU THE DICE GODS WOULD PUNISH YOUR HUBRIS.

WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN TO ME

why?
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Rolled 28

>>22630130
>>22630142
>>22630147
>>22630150
>>22630153

(rolling to check your design. success means you spot the problem now, when you can more easily fix it, and can work to resolve it. failing means you don't see a problem till you try to mount the arm weapons, if any, and your system redlights the process. You'd then have to take everything apart to find the problem, and it would waste more time. rolling under engineering, lower is better, no mod)
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>>22630234
Shut up Tennant, literally anyone but Celery Shirt had better writing than you!
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>>22630130

>That filename
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>>22630247

WELL AT LEAST WE NOTICED OUR DARK AND INFINITE SHAME.
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>>22630099

so have we realized the same this design have caused? or will Daniel be blissfully unawares until he tries to design the weapons system?

Cause I want to just fix this atrocity but then again it is a Nat 100
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>>22630153

(oh, and yes, they did. 100% working as intended, just no weapon mounts allowed)
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>>22630279

So not working as intended at all!
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>>22630297

(also yes!)
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I say we Just give up on designs for the night, get shit-faced and end the night crying about how terrible a engineer we are as Hatamoto awkwardly tries to comfort us.

because tonight is apparently that kind of night.
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>>22630247

You start to wrap things up when you notice that one of your greens has an odd readout. It reads 'Z tolerance: 0, Green', which is right, but it isn't. If this is left as-is, the arms will be incompatible with weapon-grade mounting brackets and power couplings. Bad, if you plan on arming the arms with anything but physical weapons, but fine in every way conceivable for your intended design so far.

Do you want to change it? It works perfectly aside from the Quirk.
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>>22630397
Change it. Oh for the love of god change it.
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>>22630397
Table it for now.
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>>22630397
Save it, place it in the FOLDER OF SHAME, and then change it.
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>>22630397
Maybe we can work something out where we attack the weapons to the outside of the arm...
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>>22630433
"Hey Daniel, can I use your computer. ... What's this, 'FOLDER OF SHAME?' Is this porn? ... What the fuck, it's just designs..."

"No, don't look! The shame burns!"
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>>22630462
"Don't look at them. I don't deserve to be an engineer, they remind me of my failures."
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>>22630442

Oh you mean...weapon mounts?
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>>22630442

(outside = inside for the purposes of this, since you still need to bracket them to the chassis, and connect them to power couplings.)
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>>22630477
Like the medium lasers on the Atlas.
Maybe give it a bit of an actual flaw, what with the weapons being exposed and all. And with not ever being able to mount projectile weapons.
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(Change or no change? You're not entirely sure what the problem is, so you don't know what you need to do to be rid of this, only that it exists)
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>>22630567
As I said >>22630433

we save this iteration in case we can't work anything out. And then change it to something without a massive glaring flaw.
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>>22630567
Again, I say just table it and come back later.
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>>22630521

So make it fucking useless against anything larger than a Firefly?

>>22630567

Change that shit, change it oh god.
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We are such powergaming mongrels.

What kind of engineer would spend hours designing some kickin' arms, only go to I CANT PUT WEAPONS ON IT WELL FUCK THAT I'LL JUST THROW AWAY ALL MY WORK
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>>22630648

We are only tossing away the arms bro.

And they are fucking USELESS for a COMBAT MECH.
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>>22630648
One who had a set of requirements and did not meet one or more of them with the current design iteration.
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>>22630670

(they still punch just fine, and carry hatchets just fine. just pointing that out)
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>>22630701

A light mech.

In melee combat.
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>>22630689
Set of requirements: Design Arms.

State of work: Arms Designed, requirements met

"NOPE NOPE NOPE DO IT ALL OVER"
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>>22630648

We are not getting rid of them. No that would be like trying to get rid of our mistakes. We will file it in the FOLDER OF SHAME where it will be a constant reminder of our failures as an engineer.
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>>22630701
This is why I'm thinking that having one arm be the weapons arm and the other be a melee might be pretty okay on one of the designs.
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>>22630670
IIRC our designs only mounted weapons in the torso.
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>>22630567
Fucking change that shit.
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It's not the end of the world guys. One of the ideas we had was to put all of the weapons in the torso to maximize the benefit of having rails. Not having arm weapons isn't a huge deal for such a fast mech.

I still think we should fix the problem though.
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>>22630718

(baseline Scarabus doesn't have TSM. Just sayin.)
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I would also vote for retrying the arms. We're likely to want to copy/paste several of our innovations from this mech onto future designs (at least to get better modifiers for our horribly cursed dice if nothing else) and settling for terribad on our first prototype will likely not help us in the future.
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>>22630743
I like torso weapons. But this is a blemish on our record, it's an amazing mech, and then this black spot that casts aspersions on the rest of the mech and our skill as an engineer.
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>>22630567
[x] change it
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>>22630772
sometimes you need to be reasonable about deadlines and time management. We don't know what ESSENTIAL setbacks there will be in the future that will prevent us from hitting our deadline.

This setback is not ESSENTIAL to fix. There are still ESSENTIAL systems left to design.

Do those first, then come back to the arms if there's time
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>>22630809

We are WELL behind the deadline.

WELL behind it.
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>>22630593
>>22630609
>>22630670
>>22630689
>>22630726
>>22630732
>>22630743

(looks like the 'change it's have it. if that's the case, you need to decide how to go about this. do you want to start from scratch, or backtrack and find the problem in hopes it's just under the surface? the former might take more time than the latter, unless the latter involves scrapping everything anyway, in which case it takes much much longer because you have to do all that work AND THEN scrap everything anyway.

What do you wanna do?)
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>>22630822
Knowing our dice, the former.
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>>22630809
We're fine on time, and if we redesign this we'll have to change the armor and electric layout anyway to fit it again.

>>22630822
Let's backtrack and see where the problem was.
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>>22630822
Former.
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>>22630809

The deadline is self-imposed if anything, what with our manager getting fucking kidnapped and a battle being fought outside the compound.

The arms are an essential system, if we design the rest of the shit with NO GUNZ for our arms in mind, it'll take way more fucking time to correct the mistake.

>>22630820

You mean ahead, we are well ahead of our self-imposed mostly-defunct deadline.
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>>22630860
>self-imposed mostly-defunct deadline
Spoken like a liberal arts major.
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>>22630822
Let's try to backtrack and find the problem.
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>>22630883

I imagine our boss, who got fucking kidnapped by a bandit group, wouldn't care at all if we went a little over the deadline (if needed) when our workday was interrupted by a battle being waged directly outside our place of work, that we stayed and worked at anyway before it became TOO dangerous to stay.
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>>22630830
>>22630836
>>22630858
>>22630890

(2 for backtrack, 2 for scrap so far)
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>>22630979
I vote neither, stick with the arms as we have them now.
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>>22630979
Scrap it and do that fucker over.
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>>22630979

Backtrack.
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>>22630992

(well, it seems there were more votes to change than not to, unless i'm wrong. lemme look again.)
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I'll vote backtrack then, hopefully we have SOME usable parts in the arm design to help save us some time
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Backtrack, we might learn where we fucked up and watch out for that in the future.

We are way ahead of schedule, it'll be a learning experience.
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>>22630822

An engineer must learn from his mistakes.

I say we backtrack to see what went horribly wrong
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Rolled 84

>>22631096
>>22631070
>>22631044
>>22631032

(I think the backtracks have it)

You decide to pick through the layers, one at a time, to see if you can diagnose the problem.

(rolling engineering, lower is better, no mod)
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>>22631165

CURSED.

YOU ARE CURSED.

BURN THE WITCH!
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Rolled 77

>>22631165
Anontech, your dice are cursed. Utterly cursed.
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>>22631165
OH WELL. AT LEAST IT ISN'T THE LIBERATOR.
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>>22631165
Time to retire.
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>>22630979
Backtrack. Disregard this vote in case of a tie.
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Ideally the arm should have a weapon mount inside the arm by the wrist that can mount a Mlas, 2xSlas or Flamer. That would make it harder for them to be damaged by incoming fire. It's not modular so you wouldn't be able to swap them out without a factory refit. But we could also give it "rails" so that the part with the weapon in it could slide out for easier servicing.

And of course you could also leave it empty, whatever fit's the clients needs best.
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Rolled 21

>>22631179
>>22631191
>>22631220
>>22631235

(all this means it it will take a long time to fix the issue. longer than scraping it, but you may come out of it knowing more about what to avoid in the future than you already do, with regards to this sort of thing.)

You work through the night, step by step, trying to see where that Z-tolerance goes 0, and the process makes you lose complete track of time.

(rolling for engineering, success means you gain experience with this particular dilemma, failure means nothing. lower is better.)
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>>22631299
Haha! A good roll!
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>>22631299
well at least we learn something from this
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>>22631299
Welp at least we failed usefully, that's something. Too bad it's likely our only lowish roll for the night.
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>>22631299

WE LEARNED!

SWEET, SWEET KNOWLEDGE!

KNOWLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDGE!
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Has someone archived this yet?

(I would but I haven't been following the thread)
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Rolled 14

>>22631365

(I archive it at the end of every thread, yeah. link to previous threads is in the first reply of the thread)
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>>22631378
>14
goddamnit
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>>22631378

(Just making sure. I really fucking love this quest and want to see it archived. I didn't know it was going on today, was busy with Fantasy Quest.)
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>>22631378

That's the lowest roll you've ever had.

Tell me that it means something, tell me sweet, sweet lies.
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>>22631378
I know it's been noticed before, but holy fuck you have the trolliest dice ever, even compared to the already trolly TG dice.
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>>22631299
I'm starting to think that Anontech's dice are intentionally testing us, purifying our engineer-soul through trial and tribulation so that we might ascend to a new and pristine level of creation.

I would offer these dice my body, if I could.
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>>22631319
>>22631333
>>22631351
>>22631356

It takes you all night, and into the morning, but you finally track down the problem.

The specs the manufacturer sent are for IndustrialMechs, that don't mount weapons habitually. So the layout was far from optimized, and compromised your critical space needs.

Basically, you's have to strip the system and reflesh it out in another way, modifying the manufacturer specs to use them for combat.

(do you want to attempt this? You've been awake for 20 hours thusfar, and worked all night. you know the issue, and have saved a previous copy of the arms to use if things go south, but could use some sleep. what do you want to do?)
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Oh hey, it's mechengineer quest
>3:30 AM

Let's just scrap those arms, port the legs onto the arms, put lasers on them, call it a day.

Goodnight!
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>>22631433

I say write down what the problem is, save what we have, then take a break to sleep.
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>>22631433

Sleep is for the dead.
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>>22631398

(thanks, i'm glad to hear you like it so much)

>>22631397
>>22631403

(Naw, lowest was that 2 last thread when things were blowing up)
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>>22631433
Let's do it. We're on a roll, we don't want to interrupt our groove.
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>>22631433

We need rest, to wake up, get the nicotine and caffiene in our system, and get back to the grind.

Possibly a shower before we go back to work too.

We probably smell like death and engineering.
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>>22631446

(eurobro? night then anon, we'll leave the light on in the archive for you)
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>>22631433
We should get some sleep. After being awake for 20 hours we would not be thinking clearly enough for a novel redesign and we will still have all the knowledge and files in the morning(afternoon).
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>>22631482

The stench of our profession is a mantle to be cherished.
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>>22631462

(Just keep running this Quest, Anontech. It's too fucking good to stop.)
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>>22631220
Actually, think about it.
This is a bit after the Liberator fiasco, its failure was a pig public mess, and we're from the FWL.
We should totally make a Liberator that actually works.
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>>22631433
Write down what was wrong and what we're going to do to fix it, and grab a few hours of sleep.
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>>22631517
>>22631220

(I love the Liberator, fund it! You can acquire the plans for seven balls of lint and a bottlecap!)
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>>22631545
>>22631517
You know what we must do. IT IS OUR GREAT DESTINY.
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>>22631513

(will do, sirrah)

>>22631535
>>22631500
>>22631482
>>22631457

(looks like sleep time)

You rub your sore eyes, and look out at the morning sun. Damn. Morning, the bane of all good design. Second only to sleep, which you now need. Damn.

You light the last cig of the day, then realize you can smell yourself over the sweet perfume of burning tobacco, so you opt to have a shower beforehand. Towels are grabbed, new underwear is fetched, clean pants are acquired, and shower rooms are visited. In the locker, you run into Ivan, who's hands are filthy with dirt. He look up at you and nods, face solemn and eyes more than a little bleary.
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>>22631577

You dissing the Urbanmech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0pyCsu0QRO0
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>>22631621

That's Urbies all right.
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>>22631608
Nod in recognition. Then take a shower.
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>>22631621
Take a look at that image again. Does it look like I am?
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>>22631678

I was really just looking for an excuse to dig up that video again, I forgot to bookmark it a week or so ago, you just reminded me to find it again.
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>>22628602
FUCK YES! I CAUGHT IT THIS TIME!
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Now I'm not going to pretend to not be talking out of my ass, but maybe we could just have the arms asymmetrical, keep one slimmer with industrial grade myomers, and bulk the other one up, put some real engines in the hand and make it meaty.

In fact, we've got sheeted, durable, and more replaceable myomers, if we just wanted to keep the weapon slots for something like M Lasers, we could wrap those myomers around the weapon as a guard, hook it up so the greasing fluid can act as another heat sink, and maybe put in a mechanical lock on according to the programs lock, just in case it gets too damaged.

Again, out of my ass, but we need more positive roll modifiers.
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>>22631608
Nod at him, ask how he's doing, see if he's alright.
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Catching up
...
>>22629976
>100 on the hands

Anontech pls


Yeah, it's Mech Engineer quest alright.
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>>22631664

You nod at Ivan, and he sighs, sloughing off his coveralls and stepping out of his boots.

"Engineer. I am hoping you making good use of time that lives of new family pay for. Ivan has felt the weight of all of them; I bury them all next to Mechbay 5. They were crew working on finishing wire harness to make bay fully operational. Seeming right to put them in the ground there, Ivan thinks."
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>>22631815
"We're ahead of schedule, and I have a revolutionary myomer setup that makes the mech easier to maintain, more robust, and doesn't add cost."

Take that shower, put on another pot of coffee, open another pack of smokes, and get back to work.
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>>22631165
Catching up, still...
>Rolling to fix the horrible 100
>Rolls 84
Yep. It's Mech Engineer quest.
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>>22631815

"It's going ahead of schedule. It's not gonna be in vain. I... damn, man. I wasn't expecting something like this." Pause for a moment. "I'm gonna make the best damned light mech ever. For them."
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>>22631815
"I am Ivan. I've been working all night, I'm about to get some sleep before I work some more.

I'll make it the best Mech of its class in the Inner Sphere. They'll be remembered, they won't have died for nothing."
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>>22631815
"We're on schedule. I'll be done soon."
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>>22631815
I hope so too. I am going to do my damnedest to make a mech approaching worthiness to their sacrifice.
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>>22631815
I know the price was high, but I won't let it be in vain. We're building a future for our whole new family here Ivan, and I won't waste the chance they've given us. Any word on our lost bossman yet?
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>>22631856
>>22631879
>>22631884
>>22631889
>>22631910

Ivan nods.

"Hatamoto is telling me that you say you want to put their names on the chassis of the first ones. I am liking the sounds of this."

Ivan hugs you in a big Russian bearhug.

"Thank you, Engineer."
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>>22631959
Hug him back.

"I wish I could do more Ivan. I wish I could do more. I can't do everything, all I can do is design it, you'll be the one building it."
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>>22631959
"No problem, Ivan."

Take a shower. No homo.
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>>22631959
Freeze up for a second, before awkwardly hugging back.

Wait, we're naked. We're both naked.

Eh, whatever. We're both mature, manly men secure in our sexuality.

I was going to spoiler something about Ivan route, waifu, homogay, et cetera, but...eh. My wit has been dulled by delicious beer.
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>>22632066
That sounds delicious. The beer isn't half bad either.
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>>22632066
We just got into a relationship, of some kind, with a hot, intelligent, witty, Steiner woman who likes us for our mind and skill at making engines of destruction.

There is no way to be more secure in your sexuality.
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>>22631984
>>22632003

You have your shower, and exit so fresh and so clean clean. You only wish the HZP's arms were so squeaky.

Drying your ears, you head back up to your office, and before bed, you notice there's an email notification on your computer.

You open it, and it's from Dieter.

"Daniel,

I am pleased to inform you that none of my equipment was damaged, so now that the battle is over, I can finish the command console in around a week's time. Well, that's just the mainframe, but Ivan won't have the head done for months most likely, considering you still have a little less than a week to go till your end of things is 'done'.

Janine tells me she will have the software to me for compatibility testing once the Confederation approves the sale. Which she seems confident they will. She also tell me her most recent email from them has some information you might find interesting; I'll let her tell you in person, given recent events. It will likely please you.

I hope you don't mind me taking tomorrow off to tend to Ilsa and Wanda; family is important, but immediate blood relations are even moreso, I hope you agree.

-Dieter VonBraun"
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>>22632133
We can put off sleep for a little bit. Let's go visit Janine and see what she has for us.
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>>22632133

We don't mind in the least. Take some time, man. If we had blood on base, we'd be spending time with them, and the news on the mainframe and everythign is great. Very good news.

Don't mention that because we don't we're going to be doing the chemical reaction that transform caffiene and nicotine into schematics.
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>>22632133
Let's get some sleep now.
We'll talk with Janine when we wake up (after we down a pot of coffee), and then we'll finish up the arms.
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>>22632133
Fire off a reply thanking him for the information and telling him taking a personal day would be perfectly appropriate given the circumstances. Set an alarm to sleep and see Janine after our nap to find out what the new information is.
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>>22632133
What time is it incidentally? All we know is we've been failing our post-drinking engineering for probably a few hours and are now clean.
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>>22632230
The sun came up pretty recently.
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>>22632230

(you started working at around 7pm the previous day, and now it is 11am)
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>>22632243
If it's 11 we should probably see what Janine has, if we go to sleep it'll be late afternoon when we get up, if not later.
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>>22632243
I vote for go see Janine while we actually don't smell for the sheer novelty of it and find out what this new information is, see if there's any updates from the garrison about finding the Eight's hideout, and maybe grab a nap later. Being best engineer we don't require sleep EVERY 24 hour cycle to function.
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>>22632181
>>22632189
>>22632191

You respond to his email, then decide to set your alarm and get some sleep before you go meet with Janine to see what her 'good news' is.

You lay down on your couch, and get some shuteye.

(how late do you want to sleep? it's 11am now, and you are running on about 22 hours of being awake. At your age, you need at least 5 hours of sleep to not suffer any penalties, especially given the amount of stress you've experienced recently)
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>>22632326
6 hours.
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>>22632320
>>22632304

(crap, I didn't see these, sorry. is >>22632326
alright or do you want me to wait for a tiebreaker since now the votes are the same?)
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>>22632342
Sleep is fine, I voted to see Janine and I could go either way.
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>>22632342
I'm ok with changing my vote to sleep now and fast-forward to waking up and seeing a steiner about an email to get things moving again.
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>>22632326
6 hours of sleep.
Suffering penalties, with the way that the dice roll, is just asking for trollish failures where we would have succeeded if not for the penalties.
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>>22632326

Let's catch five now, go see Janine, then if we still feel to out of it to engineer catch a couple more before we go back to the engineering.
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>>22632133
..Wait, they're asking *us* for days off now? Or at least running it by us?

They did this in battle planning, too. Are we like, the backup CEO or something?
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>>22632338
>>22632356
>>22632365
>>22632379

(alright, sleep it is)

You set your alarm for 5pm, and hit the sack.

Sleep comes quickly, and you dream about the battle. You see the Banshee hacking the Annie apart, even though that's not what happened and you didn't see the gun get cut off even. You dream about the Spider invading the base, as dead as it is now sitting in the floodplain, only now it's a zombie, attacking and devouring your crew alive to fuel itself. You dream it eats Ivan, and Hatamoto, and spits out the latter's bionic arm in disgust. You dream an unknown 'Mech speeds through the compound like a phantom and kills everyone, including you. As you die, you feel a weight on your chest. It seems to try to crush your very heart with its mass, and makes it hard to breathe.

You awake gasping, to a dog sitting on your chest.
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>>22632407
I think he's asking us as his kindly way of informing us since we're the only ones likely to bother him with work at this design phase. As for the battle, bossman was gone and we sorta told a bunch of scared people stuff to do keep them busy. Janine would be a more likely CEO choice if our boss is dead, as we've discussed earlier.
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>>22632440
THAT DOG BETTER BE A TALKING DOG OR HE IS GOING TO GET HIT WITH A ROLLED UP NEWSPAPER
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>>22632440
Identify the breed of dog.
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>>22632440
>You dream an unknown 'Mech speeds through the compound like a phantom and kills everyone, including you

COMSTAAAAAAAAAARRRRR/LIIIAAAAOOOOOOOOO
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>>22632440
Puppy! Pet the puppy, hug the puppy, scratch behind its ears.
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>>22632440

Pet the dog. "Hey boy. Didn't know we had a dog on base." MOve him off the chest gently, wake up, aquire pants and coffee. Pet him again.
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>>22632440
Pet dog, move it gently off of us, and check the time. If we've gotten less than 5 hours evict it from our office and get back to sleep.
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>>22632326
5 hours, send Janine an email letting her know we are going to meet with her in the evening.
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>>22632440
A dog?!
Pick up the puppy and put him on the ground.
"When'd we get a dog?"
Get a pot of coffee up and check the time.
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Also pet the dog.
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Touch fluffy tail.
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>>22632473
>>22632486
>>22632494
>>22632539
>>22632562
>>22632574

You get your bearings, and the dog tilts its head at you.

You arch an eyebrow, and can't recall anyone having a dog on-base.

It whimpers, and you scratch it behind the ears, and catch yourself cooing at it a little.

It hops off you, and as you sit up, it sits in front of you and pants.

It seems to be a type of corgi. You wonder how it got in your office, then you notice you left your door open. A fine thing too, since you caught yourself musing how it got in through the broken 3rd story window.
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>>22632641
Pet the puppy more, see if it has a collar, check the time, consider going back to bed or getting coffee depending on the time.
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>>22632641

Engage Maximum Paranoia.
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>>22632641
Send a base-wide email asking if anyone's missing a dog.
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>>22632641
See if the dog has a collar, and call up Janine, ask if anyone on the base has a dog.
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>>22632641
>It seems to be a type of corgi

All will be well, then.
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>>22632641
Call Janine, ask her why there is a Corgi in your office.
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>>22632641
Assuming it's near 5pm, go grab some food for ourselves, something for the dog if it follows us. If it doesn't want to be our new sidekick I imagine Ilsa would squee over it like the urbie and take it off our hands, then we can go see Janine about that email.
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Rolled 3

>>22632641
Freak the fuck out.
Its a spy! A SPY!
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>>22632663
>>22632679
>>22632685
>>22632715
>>22632717

You scratch it behind the ear, and check to see if it has a collar. It's in pretty good shape; the fur isn't too dirty or anything. But it doesn't see to have a collar either. Odd.

You get up, brew some coffee, and light a smoke. The corgi just watches you, and tilts its head to the left, then to the right, then back again.

You sit, and fire off an email asking if anyone has a dog they are missing, then decide to get some chow. The dog follows you as you leave, scampering on its short legs behind you. You get to the stairs, and stride down, and it seems to have a little trouble following you, but manages after a moment. Industrial stairs don't seem to be very corgi-friendly it seems.

Bacon, eggs, and coffee are had, in abundance, since the cook is willing to make them for you, even though it is almost dinner. You didn't want salsbury steak anyway.

The dog gets the same, and gobbles it up like it hasn't eaten in days.

The cook inquires when you got a dog.
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>>22632440

>A wild dog has appeared!
>Uses sit on chest like a puppy!
>It is super effective!

Anyway, was doodling the HZP and some things I was wondering about. For the cooling fins to be most effective, we need to have air flowing over them. They have a ton of surface area, but we might need to add some forced convection via fans at the inlet for an extra bit of thermal efficiency. Unless we are always running, heat will build up quickly.

Really, we should figure out a way to scavenge some that heat for something else. We probably could treat them as a heat source for secondary boiler and use it to power a Stirling engine (some sort of liquid salt would work) for additional power. It would help distribute the power load or allow for more weaponry/upgrades and redundancy. Main engine damaged? As long as it is still hot you can keep limping on to safety. I don't know how fancy future magic fusion engines work, but back in MY day we kept made our waste heat pull it's keep! Otherwise it just lazy and wasted in the environment. Like a dirty hippie.

My other concern was the working fluid for the normal cooling system. A radiator stops working quickly with no pressure. So this area is going to need a shit load of shielding or massively redundant cooling lines. Preferable self sealing with multiple flow paths for the inevitable shot that hits it.
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>>22632814
Answer him - "Sometime in my sleep, apparently"

Also, thank him for his cooking, and compliment him on it.
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>>22632814
"Its not mine, I found it. Or rather it found me."
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>>22632814
"It woke me up this afternoon and decided to follow me, no idea where he came from. He looks like a nice dog. I think I'll keep him if no one else has claim. Thanks for breakfast."

Then go see Janine, puppy in tow.
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>>22632814
It comes free with the 100th cat video you get emailed to you. Let's go see Janine about that email. If she wonders about the dog we can tell her it's our new security officer. No harm in having something cute following us around for the moment as long as it behaves, I imagine the base can use some levity right now.
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>>22632814
>The cook inquires when you got a dog.
About five minutes ago, as far as I can remember.
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>>22632814
"Got no idea. I thought it belonged to someone else. Must have left the door to my office open; I found it on my chest."
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>>22632836
>a 'Mech with a secondary engine
>keeps running even after main systems shutdown
>still pelting enemy units with missiles even with most of its center torso gone
>ULTIMATE ZOMBIE

If we can do this, I'm all for it, but I don't know if we have enough time to develop a system like this, if it's even possible in the first place.
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>>22632836

(battlemech systems are pretty redundant. the stacks work by a) giving you a place to put the sinks in the first place given the engine layout, and b) forced venting the heat from vents on the back and sides, adding a mirage effect around the 'mech's silhouette, adding to the intimidation factor. Yes, the heat is wasted, but there is precious little room inside a chassis, especially a light one, to add extra stuff that can make use of the heat. And since you designed the HZP with a spacious torso easily maintained, adding more stuff will waste that)
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Now I'm kind of skeptical.
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>>22632641
>>22632814

I am having cowboy bebop flashbacks.

Did we just pick up Ein?
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>>22632853
>>22632854
>>22632865
>>22632884
>>22632890
>>22632922

You remark you have do idea; that it was sitting on your chest when you woke up.

The cook laughs and says that it's better than finding a rat or something.

You thank him for the food, then trudge off to see Janine about this 'good news', corgi in tow.

Arriving at her quonset, you knock and she opens the door on the third rapping of your knuckles.

"When did you get a dog?"
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>>22632960
"A couple minutes ago when I found him on my chest? But really, I got no idea. I just found him sitting on my chest."
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>>22632960
It replaced my alarm clock a little while ago. Dieter said you had some new information for me?
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>>22632960
Its my spirit animal. here to guide me.
Also, Whats the good new?
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>>22632960
"I didn't, a dog found me. He's cute, I think I'll keep him, we need a mascot anyways.

So, Dieter said you got an email and wanted to tell me something in person."
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>>22632960
In my sleep.

You had good news?
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>>22632960
...I *could* make a remark here that would make Janine hate us forever, but i'll refrain.

>>22633004
This, however, is fucking great.
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>time for bed
>maybe just one more browse through /tg/...
>all hope for 8 hours of sleep is lost
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>>22633004
>Engineer's spirit animal
>Welsh Corgi

...eh, at least it's not something even more inefficient, like a daschund or a basset hound.
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>>22633135
Corgis are actually really damn good at their jobs, they seem silly, but they aren't chumps. They're intelligent, sturdy, good herders, great with people, they protect kids, and have a strong work ethic.
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>>22632980
>>22632989
>>22633004
>>22633005
>>22633011
>>22633024

You tell her your alarm clock broke, and he is your spirit animal here to make sure you don't sleep in too late, and to help you reach your deadline.

She purses her lips, and arches an eyebrow at you, then chuckles.

"Stick to 'Mech design hun."

She invites you both in and you ask her about the email from the Confederation. She nods and pulls it up, swinging the screen around for you to read.

To: Skvorec Mechworks, attn, Janine Steiner

Ms. Steiner,

Regarding the recent inquiry of your company into proprietary software for combat units, specifically Battlemechs, we are pleased to inform you your request has been passed through the initial stages of screening, and passed on to the final governmental bureau that will review your request and finalize acceptance or denial. We will inform you in no more than 72 hours about their decision regarding this matter.

As an additional note, one of our representatives has contacted a member of the Committee for Governmental Spending, and contracted a visitation to be scheduled no more than one week later than the completion of the initial blueprinting of your prototype, for the purpose of review, and subsequent submission to the Committee regarding purchase.

Please remit at your earliest convenience. Thank you for your time."
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>>22633192
"Looks like, if everything goes right, we have our first customer."
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>>22633192
Does that mean we have a buyer, or just that we have the systems complete?

"I guess I've got a deadline to hit."
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>>22633192
Cappies wanna check out Hazard Pay.

...Okay. As long as they don't make a cheap chinese knockoff that gets most of the shit completely wrong and sullies our good name.

Pic related - Stop ripping off Battletech for bossfights Sonic.
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>>22633192
Give her a kiss, this is pretty spectacular news.

"That awesome dear, we have potential buyers.

The blueprints should be done soonish, though the arms are making me want to hurt something. Nose meet grindstone, you know how it is."
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>>22633192
Pick up the dog, tell it we knew it was lucky all along.
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>>22633024

What was the remark?
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>>22633274
Yes, please, enlighten us.
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>>22632929

Fair enough. Though, with the tech available in this setting I would imagine we could get quite a bit of bang for very little weight added (relatively). Beauty of Stirling engines is they just need a heat differential. We could probably get a 100 kW power out of something the size of refrigerator. And we literally could just slap one or two on the back of the mech out of the way of everything and they would work beautifully. Think of it as "power armor" if nothing else. We just have to have a the working fluid pass by the heat source
(cooling fins). As long as materials are up to it (should be due to SCIENCE! of the setting) it is completely doable. It won't be enough to kill anything, but it will buy you an extra minute or two. Probably would add another 1-2 tons to the total weight if implemented. But that is just my opinion man. Your call either way. Just something I thought that would make the system more efficient/reliable.

Getting back on topic...


>>22633192

Dawwww
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>>22633192
Good to see they're interested at this early a phase, could help make the boring business stuff easier and more importantly net us funding for future bigger better mech designs. Any word from the garrison on finding the Eight's hideout or Goddard?
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>>22633223
>>22633238
>>22633246
>>22633257
>>22633271

You give Janine a kiss on the cheek and express how happy you are to hear that you have your first potential buyer lined up.

"I was pretty excited too, Daniel. I mean, I kind of had the thought that they might be interested when they bid for the software contract, but this... it's huge."

The corgi barks, and you scratch it behind the ears, saying you guess it's lucky after all.

"Let's just hope these arms don't distract you from finishing too much."

You start to comment on how you think you'll solve the problem soon and have the deadline beat and then you realize she was talking about her arms with are around you and now you're kissing and this is what's in your head right now and there is no more punctuation and you wonder if you're going to get punched again her breath tastes like coffee same as you think yours does too probably wow this is nice -

The corgi barks, and sits quietly, not interrupting you for the duration.

A few minutes later, Janine sits back down.

"Now that that's out of the way... you got anything you need me to do before I get back to work? Books aren't gonna balance themselves."
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>>22633376
No, I think that's it. Let's get back to work. We've got a deadline to meet.
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>>22633464
Pretty much this. We just got a pretty nice present just now anyway.
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>>22633376
"I love you, we should name the puppy, we have a deadline, but we'll meet it, and you're even cuter than the puppy is even though it's cute and I should stop rambling. Engineering awaits!"
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>>22633376
Mention how that would be nice while walking out in a daze
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>>22633376
If you could point me at who I need to talk to about getting my new battle-installed window added to the list of repairs that'd be great, the blanket is fine for now but rain could be a problem later. Other than that, I'll let you get back to work and get back to doing what I do best.
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>>22633376

One thing. The battle managed to shatter one of my windows. I replaced it with a blanket, but noting that for whoever fixes these things would be helpful.
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>>22633511
We can't not name it Ein.
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>>22633511

We should see if anyone in the local town has lost a dog. It's cute and all, but if it's somebody else's pet, we should really return it.
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>>22633367
>>22633464
>>22633494
>>22633511
>>22633517

You garble something about the Eights and Goddard and Janine giggles a bit.

"Still no word hun. Now go run along and make us some money."

Having been scooted out of Janine's quonset, you stand on the tarmac, corgi in tow. You can see they've employed the trucks to cart the Spider to Mechbay 3. It's in pretty rough shape; missing both arms, leg crippled, and head like swiss cheese.

The Crazy Ivan sits in its spot in Mechbay 1, sporting a huge gash across the hip.

The wind is warm and from the south. You light a smoke, and your new pal yips at you and tilts its head.

It's not a bad day so far. You wonder if you should take a walk to clear your head and think about the arm issue, or get back to it, or do something else.
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>>22633599
Maybe it belonged to the pirates?
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>>22633599
Screw that, if the dog ran away from then onto a recent battlefield and up 3 flights of stairs to meet us I say it's fate, the dog is ours and let's get back to engineering.
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>>22633617
Pet the puppy, let's get some thinking about the arm in before we jump back in. Go for a walk with the corgi, introduce him to people, check gender before naming him.
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>>22633617

Get back to it.

We've got a deadline to meet, money to make, and a hot businesschick to please.

It's like livin' the Engineer dream.
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>>22633617
Back to work!
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>>22633617
I vote we get back to work, we just had our break, food, and walked the dog, time to fix our little arm problem, if nothing else we can sacrifice the dog to the TG dice gods before we get too attached.
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>>22633617
Pat dog in our lap to clear head whilst getting back to work.
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>>22633617
Get right back to it.
Give the dog a pat on the head, and when picking it up to take it up to our office, use the opportunity to check its gender.
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>>22633655
>>22633685
>>22633687
>>22633695
>>22633710

You finish your smoke, while watching the crew secure the Spider in the bay. After, you look down at your new dog and inquire if it's ready to get back to work.

It barks and does a little dance sort of thing, pawing the ground and looks up at you panting.

You take that as a sign and depart for your office, corgi dashing ahead of you. You wonder what gender it is, but with how stubby the legs are it's kind of hard to tell. Bellyrubs later, you determine. Then maybe a name.

Once back in your office, you sit down, pull up the HZP, and the dog curls up next to your chair.

Arms then, gentlemen?
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>>22633787
Arms. I hope this Corgi is a good luck charm, at the very least it'll keep us from getting annoyed as we just have to pet it a few times to calm down.
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>A light mech.
>In melee combat.
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>>22633787
ARMS.
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>>22633787
Consult our spirit animal on the matter.

...The dog says arms.
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>>22633800
>>22633825

Alright.

So you determined the problem. Now you have some decisions to make. Do you want to keep with the modular hands, and attempt to modify the specs you have to make them work and leave room for the brackets and couplings for weapons? Or do you want to start from scratch? Or maybe you've decided the flaw is charming and want to keep your original specs, which you have saved. Maybe something else?

You hear the whimper of sleeping doggy dreams, which makes you smile. You're feeling lucky, you think.
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>>22633813
>steiner mech
>quoting steiner cartoon
>Fed-rat
What the fuck
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>>22633928
Let's see if we can fix up what we have instead of starting from scratch, it's got the modular hands we want and the Svorek Toughness, we just need to make it work otherwise.
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>>22633928
Start from scratch and build towards the modular hands.
The Modular Hands would be another good selling point.
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>>22633928
>You're feeling lucky, you think.
I think /tg/ dice disagree with this sentiment.

Start from scratch, but with a similar concept, keeping the bits that work.
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>>22633928
Third time's the charm, let's make what we originally intended work, hoping our last 'we fucked up but learned something' roll helps us.
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>>22633937
The sad thing is that a lot of Steiner players these days seem so swept up in the whole "Steiner recon lance" thing that they hate the Commando because it isn't an assault mech.
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>>22633992
Seconding this.
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Rolled 24

>>22633960
>>22633965
>>22633985
>>22633992

You decide after some analysis that you can work with these specs, but will instead work them around what you need, instead of making them the main concern of the arm assembly. Offensive systems compatibility is important.

You set coffee to 'brew', cigarette to 'burn' and dog to 'petted', and get to work. You have 4 days till deadline, and a few other systems to design after this. It's crunch time.

(rolling to add leg notes, modified to accept modular hands. due to your diagnosis roll being good, you get no penalty this time to make it work. lower is better)
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>>22633928
The old arms stay in the Folder of shame until we build a civy mech that could use them.

Lets try to mod the specs and see if we can regain our honor as a engineer.
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>>22634072
YES! Go puppy! Almost as good a good luck charm as Janine is. Make sure to reward the puppy with belly rubs as reward for being a good luck charm.

And check gender so we can name it.
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>>22634072

Now that's what I'm talking about. Spirit doggy rules.
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>>22634072
PRAISE BE TO THE SPIRIT ANIMAL.
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>>22634072
>24
Pet dog, receive inspiration.
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>>22634072
*crossing fingers for additional positive quirk* On to the electrical conduit now?
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>>22634201
Probably. Then weapons, then armor on top of everything else.
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>>22634096
>>22634120
>>22634123
>>22634142
>>22634201

After several hours of work, you get the arms laid out the way you want them, deciding to place couplings and brackets in a tri-pattern around the lower arm, and in such a way as to raise them from the frame a bit and leave room for the modular hand assembly. Success! You've managed to add a fair amount of utility to the HZP, which is a selling point, and still managed to allow for three stock weapon mounts on each forearm. Not bad, you decide.

You give your new puppy a tummy rub to celebrate and discover it's time to consider male dog names.
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>>22634292
Ein still sounds like a good name.
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>>22634292

Gimbal the EngiCorgi!
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>>22634292
Charles. Charles T Bigglesworth the Third
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>>22634292
We do not name him. He is our spirit animal, and we respect him enough to let him choose his own name.

Now let's find an Ouija board.
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>>22634364
>>22634344
>>22634370

No! Obviously, he is Ian.
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>>22634394
I second this motion
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>>22634394
This
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>>22634394
Clearly the best option here.
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How about a latin dog name meaning good luck? If it's appropriate for the setting?
Fortunatas is a lucky man but it's a mouthful and I can't think of anything else...

>>22634394
Or Ouija board.
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>>22634445

Felix is latin for luck.
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>>22634394
>>22634407
>>22634418
>>22634431
>>22634445

You decide that he should pick his own name, and amuse yourself on the idea that he can use an ouija board to do it.

Sadly you don't have one, but you do have the Net.

So you look for an app that emulates an ouija board, and eventually find one.

You pick up your new puppy, hold him in your lap, and put his paw on the mouse, turning him loose on the online board.
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>>22634445
>meant Fortunatus
>>22634457
Yup. Can't think of anything that works well.
Ouija board!
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>>22634521
>using a shitty online ouija board
>not programming a better one ourselves
WHY.
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>>22634544

(you're a mechanical and electrical engineer, not a software engineer anon)
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>>22634563
Then clearly we have a new request for Janine next time we see her.
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>>22634401
Yes. He is Ian.
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>>22634521

Less efficient. That time could be spent working on the HZP.

Also

>mechanical engineer coding
>not FORTRAN
>laughing supercomputer

Programming tends to be a useful skill, but really depends on the person how good they are at. Most Mech-Es are not there for happy fun code times.
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>>22634521

You watch the mouse pointer move slowly.

M

A

X

The board then stops.
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>>22634610
>not wanting to satisfy our spirit animal
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>>22634636
Very well, the Ouija board has spoken, this is Max.

Give him belly rubs, exclaim our awesomeness to the world at large and then take him with us and introduce him to everyone.
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>>22634636

So sayeth the Spirit Corgi of LUCK.

Max it is.

Give max a victory tummy rub.
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>>22634636
Alright, give Max a pat on the head.
We should get a bandanna to put on him.
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>>22634659

Yeah, my bad. I meant to reply to this post:

>>22634544

And

>>22634563

Beat me to it anyway.
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>>22634636
I was almost expecting you to say that the pointer moved to YES.
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>>22634636
Good. Your name is Max boy. Let's hope your luck holds while I design this conduit, otherwise we'll both be homeless inside a week.
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>>22634668
>take him with us and introduce him to everyone.
We've got the electrical systems, weapons, and armor to finish before the deadline.
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>>22634725
Yeah, and we've got a couple days, we haven't eaten for a bit, and we should stretch our limbs and make sure Max gets some walk time in as well. We're at a good break point to walk around a bit.
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>>22634725
>not wanting to satisfy our spirit animal

But seriously, though, back to work.
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>>22634750
We JUST slept, ate and walked around. Everyone is busy fixing battle damage or mourning, let's keep working while the dice still have fresh corgi luck affecting them.
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>>22634778
Well alright, as long as we give him another belly rub I'm cool with more work.

Electrical systems next. Corgi Luck ACTIVATE!
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LUCK LEVEL: MAX CORGI

It's time to mech engineer.
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(actually, you've been working for maybe 6-7 hours. food and stuff isn't a bad idea, but then again, you've fasted before to no ill effect.)

What will you do Daniel? Continue work? Take a break? Other?
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>>22634292
Looks good, three mounts should be more than enough. I can't even think of many configurations that would use that many. The HZP just doesn't have the tonnage unless we use a smaller engine or add weight savers like Endo Steel. Plan for the future I guess.

>Dem aftermarket upgrades.
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>>22634807
Work like a dog!
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>>22634807
Grab a bite for us and Max, then work while we eat.
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>>22634807
Given that we're about to start on the Electrical systems we might want to take a break and go talk to Hatamoto before we start on it. This is his area of expertise. Then we get a snack for us and Max and work on it.
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>>22634807
Max might want a snack. Then again, we don't want him getting too fat.
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>>22634807
Take a break, get some food, stretch our legs a bit and walk Max around. Then, back to the grind! On our break, check inventory for weapons, then finalize loadout and begin the process of wire routing.
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>>22634807
Assuming we dicked around until 6pm getting food and meeting Janine, that puts us well past normal visiting time, I say we get back to work after going out for a quick smoke/corgi walk and see about some electrical conduits. If we actually BEAT our deadline maybe we can see about fine tuning our design a bit with the extra time.
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>>22634846
Seconding visiting Hatamoto to pinch him for ideas/optimizations on electrical systems.
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>>22634836
>>22634859
>>22634869
>>22634881

You decide to head out for a quick puppy potty break and a snack.

As Max takes care of business, you smoke a cigarette and start thinking about the conduit layout in your head.

How do you want to go about it? Running the cables along the chassis is the easiest way, but they aren't protected from EMP or critical hits that way. They are, however, easier to replace and maintain, since you don't have to get into bulky conduit tubing to get them. Conduits are better protected from shrapnel and whatnot though, so there's that to consider.

Maybe you can come up with something new?
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>>22635022

We have time. Let's see if we can innovate!
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>>22635022
Hmm, we want to protect them from EMP, but we also want it to be easy to replace.

That won't be too hard with the Torso, it's extremely modular and we can layer it under stuff to protect it and it'll be a bit harder to get to than normal, but worth it.

For the limbs, it's much easier to open up and get under the myomer in our system so we could snake it under a layer of myomer, maybe have a flat mesh of electric wires a few layers deep.

Run our ideas past Hatamoto if he's still up.
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>>22635022
What if we developed a type of conduit that consists of a sleeve with a "zipper" clamp so that it can be easily opened up, allowing access to the cables inside?
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>>22635022
Not really knowledgeable about this sort of thing, but could we run redundancy into it? Like one system underneath myomer layer and right against the frame as a secondary in case of an easy-to-fix external system being compromised?
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>>22635088
Either a zipper sleeve of some kind, or maybe an ability to pop part of it off?
Like, the conduits are in sections, and each section has the conduit be 2 halves hinged together. You simply release the clamps at either end of the section, and the conduit opens up, allowing easy access to the cables inside.
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I like the layering idea. Also, RF shielding the conduit itself would protect against EMP's and help scrambling from PPC hits and the like. Make the limbs sort of like an onion, with frame and conduit in the center, myomer around it, and all you have to do to service it is remove the outer layers and open the conduit to replace damaged wiring.
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>>22635064

(sadly it's after midnight, so he's probably asleep. you could check though)
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>>22635247
Better to spend our time working through the night, I guess. We can look for him when we know he's awake.
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>>22635247
Oh well. Send him an email about this before we start, just in case he's up, and if we fail at it we'll get his advice in time for another go at it.

Also send Ivan an email asking about the state of the salvage from the Spider, if the MLs are usable.
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>>22635247
If it's already past midnight, let's just check his office to see if there's a light coming out from underneath it. If yes, knock.
If no, then we go back and get to work on different conduit designs.
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>>22635247
Would it be possible to send him an email on our current ideas and then begin working on them while hoping for a positive response from Hatamoto in regards to further ideas?
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>>22635247
>>22635315
>>22635319
>>22635325
>>22635328

You meander over to Hatamoto's shack but the lights are off, so you decide emails will suffice.

You take Max back inside and raid the fridge, and get a sandwich for yourself and some cold cooked eggs for him, which he gobbles up happily.

Upon arriving back 'home', you light another smoke and sit down to write that email.

(well, the thread's in autosage, 360 posts or something like that. It's almost midnight, so I'd imagine lots of you want sleep, so maybe we should call it till next time? I have a few things to do before I sleep myself, so I'll archive and stick around for Q&A as usual?)
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>>22635328
I'll second this, he IS the power guy right? We're mostly just designing the conduit itself and where to put attachment points for wiring and such, he'll have to make it work with our engine, know what kind of wire to use and such. (Or I could be horribly off, it's late here and most of what I remember is making him hate us briefly with a joke about switching fusion engines arbitrarily in the cafeteria that one time).
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>>22635389
I'm up for more if you are, but if you have stuff to do that takes precedence.

Where did Max come from? Is he of nefarious origins? When is our futon coming in?
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>>22635064

We may want to have Faraday cages around any of the sensitive components and inductive limiters going in/out of them. I don't know if it would be possible, but integrating the armor plating in a way as to act as a partial Faraday cage might be worth considering. I am terrible at EM, so this may not be possible. I am wondering if adding a conductive layer at all the joints so it is effectively a continuous conductive surface would work to form an effective EMP sheild.

>>22635161

I like the idea of quick access conduits, but zippers probably aren't the way to go. Having them be in pre-made sections that can be swapped out when damaged is nice as well. Problem is that the more connectors we add, the more noise we will get.
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I say we got for a layered configuration. I had an idea on how to do something similar with the myomer. Basically, you have a well-armoured outer layer which also easier to replace. And a second inner layer which is far more protected because it sits under everything else.

I don't see any reason why we couldn't do this with the power lines. Armoured outer conduits within easy access. And unarmoured lines running parallel deeper in the mech structure. The inner layer isn't as tough but if it gets damaged the mech has been "cut to the bone" and damaged power cables are the least of your worries.
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>>22635455
So we're going for a xenomorph/chryssalid/krogan...I keep falling more in love with this mech.
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>>22635389
We are engineers. We need no sleep.
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>>22635421

Max is a corgi. He is Lawful Dog in alignment. He knows when your futon will arrive, but you don't speak dog sadly.
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>>22635506
On a scale from 1-10, with 8 being over the Urbie, how much is Ilsa going to "Squee" over seeing Max?

Also he knows when not to bark, didn't interrupt when we were kissing Janine, totally awesome dog.
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>>22635389
Estimated time for the next session?
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>>22635555

Next Wednesday work? same time if I can manage again? Seemed to get a better turnout this time.
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>>22635506
>Lawful Dog in alignment
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>>22635575

Also, thread is archived at suptg. Hope you all enjoyed it. I was happy to be able to include more people this time by starting earlier.
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So how much more time between "investor meeting" and "first prototype" will we have to tweak stuff?
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>>22635575
I'll be there. We have electrical systems to design!
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>>22635585
I generally end up reading these the day after. Finally got to watch it happen, twas glorious.

Do we have good blown out models for standard mech innards for possible draw friends in here? Figuring the myomers arewacky enough but would our layering idea with the circuitry be possible?
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>>22635609

Well, you have a lot of parts, but there are things you don't have, so you'll probably need investment to build the first HZP anyway, since you don't have myomer yet, for example. Lots of armor to fabricate, and tests to run, so months are expected. Having the first prototype out within a year is pretty good actually.
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>>22635643

Layering is possible, but like with a fine woman, too many layers and it becomes frustrating to get to the good stuff beneath.

Remember, you have a 'Mech that is easy to maintain so far. Continuing that trend would mean being careful not to sabotage your efforts.
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>>22635710
Thats what Im trying to get at but its 3am so thinkerbox doesnt do English too well at the moment. Figure visualizing whats going on would help us out a ton, like whoever >>22632836 and>>22635455 this is nice for the cross section but how would it actually look in practice?
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>>22635643
>>22635437
Well as an added bonus of putting the cables under the myomer. Myomer bundles are held together with braided metal mesh, so that would block all of the signal interference from outside.

>>22635710
>>22635682
So there will be timeskips in our future I guess?

The layering shouldn't be too much of an issue. We just need to find a cross-section that works. If we go with an inner-outer system of redundancy instead of just having two lines side by side, the inner layer would only need to be replaced because of catastrophic damage. And at that point you're doing a total refit anyway.
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>>22635812

Sadly the official answer is "We don't know" since from FASA to WizKids to Catalyst, no one can agree on the canon interior of a Battlemech, so it's whatever we make of it. That would probably be why there haven't really been lore nazis browbeating me over internals and such; because they don't really know either. I mean some official art doesn't even HAVE myomer, just hydraulics. So... use your imagination? Of course, I'm trying to keep it realistic-ish, but a lot is left to the imagination.
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>>22635864
Yea hence my confusion. From my understanding regular myomers act like simple muscles conected to a joint and contracting parallel to the bone. Our layers approach looks like it contracts on its own armored compartments, a center line, and the base skeleton. Wouldnt this tear itself apart when it contracts?

Its a great idea but it leaves me confused without seeing how it would work.

I wonder if we could steal pistol shrimp musculture.
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>>22635958
The biological inspirations have worked well for us so far. The more this thing moves and walks like a human the easier it will be to pilot. Things like bird legs are not impossible to do, but the more "mechanical" a design gets the more extra stability you have to add just to stop the thing from falling over.

I could try drawing the layers in 3d. It's hard to tell how it works from the diagram because it's just a flat cross-section.
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>>22635958

Mantis Shrimp Appendage:

Weight: Tonnage/8, round up to nearest 1/2 ton.
Critical Slots Taken: 2/ton
Damage: 1/2.5 tons, round up.

This odd weapon uses a club-like appendage on a hinge that lays against the 'Mech's forearm to deal tremendous damage to enemies, using bundled TSM in special heat jackets that cause the bundles to operate and maximum efficiency each time the weapon is employed. It takes one round to 'recharge' the weapon, that is, to heat the myomer to temp, then it can be employed.

How it functions is the TSM flexes once, at full force, pivoting the club on its hinge, forcing it out from the forearm, to a position in-line with the forearm. This motion occurs at extreme speed (Mach 3.2), and the resulting concussion adds to the damage dealt, but stresses the weapon greatly.

This weapon replaces the Hand Actuator on the arm it is equipped to.

This weapon destroys itself on a to-hit roll of 2. If it does, roll 1d6 to determine the result:

1-4: hits any adjacent enemy in the front arc
5-6: hits self

Roll a second d6 to determine hit location as per the Punch Table for Physical Combat.

For fun.
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>>22636024
Yea Im trying to puzzle out the cross section and trying to match it to images on google...I think just drawing a leg bone and then coloring where the muscle would be and using arrows in direction of how theyd contract would be all thats necessary.

Im getting the feeling Im missing some very obvious but crucial detail right now.

>>22636042
Guys I think we found the claws for our Chryssalid.
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>>22636121
We're already using every ton we have available. Unless we dropped a pile of armor, or all of our weapons and then some we couldn't afford the tonnage to put even one of them on.
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>>22636141
meant it as a goofy variant being as true to the source as possible. Also just realized how many crits the thing would take up. It doesnt scale up well.
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>>22636121
I can draw some more diagrams for next time. I don't need to show everything, just the long muscles like you would find in the legs and upper arms.

I'm already thinking that if we made the "bones" into an I-beam shape we could put the muscles on the top and bottom and still have two compartments on either side where we can put the power cables and such. It's still "layered" because anything that tries to damage them from the front and back needs to go through the entire myomer bundle and part of the chassis.
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>>22636167
Anyone else think that chryssalid teeth look like a cockpit windshield?
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>>22636258
Yup! Part of the reason why I like it as a design is that it isn't just a skullface. It's also has an alien quality to it that makes it look more like a predator, rather than just something dead.

I think were using it as the main inspiration for the HZP cockpit. But we would need to modify it slightly so that the cockpit glass doesn't have a crossbar running down the centre of the pilot's vision.

>urbie defolate
No captcha floodplains don't have trees. Then again I'm sure an AC2 would have the range to hit a forest SOMEWHERE on Skvorec.
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I was just looking for a chrysalid picture when i found out that there is apparently a hotel called "Camp Chrysalid" in India.

Nearly shat my pants.



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