>>22424863

Oh awesome, someone made a thread.
Archive of the previous one.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22408772/

>>22424953
Yep OP from last night. I have a good deal of the old thread written up in slightly decent writefaggotry. Mostly just so we know wassup. Feel free to add anything.

Something I though up yesterday after the thread hit the bumplimit.

Ceramic armor is a popular choice, though fragile, it can save you from a few otherwise lethal blows, and protects you from the scorching sun.

>>22425040
That makes sense. I was thinking that the desert should have lots of canyons. More interesting to explore that sand and gives some more things to think up when talking about random encounter.s

>>22425078

Not just canyons anon, some are immense trenches that can be many miles long, and even a mile or more deep.

>>22425198
oooh OP here and I've been reading all of our old post and apparently someone put up a waterless coral reef full of parasite folk. Maybe that's where the reef lives. In one of the deep trenches.

Most clothing is made of leather or silk, due to the lack of haired animals, and the difficulty growing plants in the deep desert.

>>22425363
Dire Bears are the only reliable way to get a hold of good hair to make clothing out off, so the rich generally wear it and will pay handsomely for the skin of one.

>>22425442

Dire Bears have long silky hair. Regular bears tend to have hair long enough to work, but it is often too thick to make good clothing out of.

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>>22425511
Glorious Dire Bears.

The people of the vine tend not to wear clothing, do to being able to control what way their bodies grow off of the base form. They effectively use this growth of their bodies, to cover themselves as one of another race would with clothing. Often with leaf like structures.

>>22425750
They do wear clothing when wearing armor though, due to rough edges of the armor sometimes cutting into there bark. An easy way to figure out if one of the People of the Vine's a warrior is if they're wearing any type of clothing.

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Around the desert, remnants of old, forgotten civilizations are scattered, like antennas, old motorbikes etc. Some people have come to worship them and decorate them with bones etc.

>>22425838
man what the hell happened to our world to make "this" post-apoc?

>>22425802

Due to the convention of warriors wearing armor, and thus clothing, the mages of the people of the vine who fight, also wear some clothing, even if they would not wear armor. Denoting their position as a individual who sees fighting as part of their occupation.

>>22425838
Any Druid worth his grain knows of every remnant around his land. They are known as Old Dreams and a touch can kill or bless. Only a Druid knows what each will do.

>>22425876
That's the fun part: Nobody knows, nobody cares. It's not like, say, the Cavemen found remnants of an older civilization and thought: "Hey, what happened to them?".

>>22425943
true. man I shall always wonder though...OP here and a New Rule if everyone is on board with it. You cannot explain why the ruins are there. Maybe the DM in your game makes a reason. Maybe not. But it is one of the mysteries that we won't solve while world-building. Deal?

>>22426019

Sure.

>>22426019
Yep.

Also, this idea: >>22425931 i particularly like because it might make for a good quest / campaign goal. Like, some kind of, Eldorado-like ruin / artefact that is rumored to grant you unlimited power / wealth etc. etc.

>>22426066
man that could fuck over an evil party. a group of five is all evil except for the druid. he tricks them into following him to the ruin. Right as the touch it they all turn into sand. Druid does victory dance.

Man, I'm just liking the sound of this desert. Always love deserts.

Another idea for the the ruins / remnants: They MAY cause anomalies around them, as in storms of psychic energy, regular storms, people rising from the dead (maybe), etc. etc.

That wouldnt be the case with all of them, of course, but i'm talking the more hidden / desolate ones, as their powers are running wild.

>>22426185
Nice. We have really weird tomb dungeons. "The Dreaded Subway of the Pale Sword."

There are the ruins of other civilizations in the deserts, separate from the remnants, including cities buried in sand.

>>22426259
The biggest of the Old Dream Cities is called the "Serpents Burial" due to the five giant skeletons of Dragons that lead to it like an entrance.

>>22426330

How about, not all of them are known. I mean this is actually a kind of brutal world, magic storms caused by psions, dreamstorms caused by demons and gods, high average heat, little water, demons that take over people progressively over time. Belief affecting a reality, say a rumor was spread that a civilization just vanished, it isn't true, but if enough people believe it, it could cause it to happen.

>>22426396
I like that more too. Half of the "Old Legends" could just be Bards being crafty.

>>22426422

There could be ruins of a civilization which never actually existed, because a bard made a good tale once.

>>22426450
That could be. Not going to give a definite answer myself. Also I think Kyary Pamyu Pamyu should be like the basis for some weird Psychic Dreamling that wanders the desert to help/trick/prey/due weird shit to people she comes across.

>>22426581
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivkxpAVVC4
She's the Bard Queen of Mania. Wandering the desert with her band of Monster Bards she stole the heart of she gives bizarre dreams that help and hinder to any that she encounters. They say she was a Princess once.

Dude back from last night who thought of
>the desert
>the underground cavern and its ancient cities
>the mantaray people
>the obelisk
and a bunch of other stuff. I think I must of contributed 1/4 of the thread last night lol

I think we should work on the major cities of this realm this time around.

Also
Ancient races city underground with the tower, the cities although abandoned with the exception of the repair golems and wander dwarfs should be called "Lucity" as a play on words for "lucid" dreaming and city

>>22426712
Im just gonna take up a trip for this thread alone for the future, I believe the other major world builders should do this along with OP.

>>22426712
I agree whole heartedly. So our major cities so far are The City of the Vine, Kiriplact and its Orc Tyrant, The Fortress City of Desh Home of Halflings, and a Waterless Coral Reef City somewhere in the deep trenches and canyons of the surface.

>>22426800

Nope, not doing it, and I came up with a lot.

New city, Aquaos, a city on the water, in the middle of a wide desert. Though they have all the water they could want, the sands are without any nutrition for plants.

>>22426823
City of Coral with the parasite people. thinking a good name for it might be something along the lines of Cay - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cay. Thoughts?

>>22426874
I like that. People have pilgrimages to Aquaos to get one of the only fresh water areas in the world.

>>22426991
my name left me lol

Also, OP, are you writing out the doc right now during this thread ? Its looking pretty good so far!

>>22427029
I've been putting some stuff up. Love to get some help, I'm trying to finish some homework while I do this.

>>22427006

The pilgrimages are dangerous due to quicksand and a shifting landscape in the desert. Also lots of water, lots of heat, and a desert of all similar colored sand would greatly imply a fuckload of mirages.

>>22427043
Alright, i'll bring up the old thread and start writing out the Ancient Races if you want me to. Then post them here and you can copy/pasta (and edit a bit) to the doc

>>22427055
Just like the pilgrimages to the City of the Vine for a new seed, the pilgrimages to Aquaos are sometimes done by well paid mercenaries for larger towns.

>>22427072
sweet! sounds good man! man I wish I had the "feels good man" pic now.

Its possible to make linen from the people of the vine, while some of this is merely a safe removal of their grown additions, the highest quality, and strongest linen is made from their base form. Often harvesting this kills, and at the least maims them.

>>22427134
The Orc Tyrant of Kiriplact knows of this method and most of his men are decked out in armor and clothes made from People of the Vine.

>>22427164

The people of the vine can easily recognize this linen, as easily as a human can recognize a human skull.

The Ancient Races

These are the races who build the great underground with cities and technology currently foreign to the people of the sands. This races are all nearly extinct.

The Calamant or Manta Ray people are humanoid beings ranging from 7 feet to 9 feet tall. They have a leathery skin which ranges from black to blue which fades into white on their chest area. They have large black pearl like eyes and no mouths with gil like holes in their chests and long thin barbed tails. They were one of the psionic ancient races known for the construction of the golems which now wander the cities unwatched.


Someone want to go over this for spelling errors and what not.

>>22427342
my trip hate me

The Deadmen are a race of tiny inteligent organisms which take on larger hosts. These hosts can be nearly any race, it is known that the hosts they took would slowly "dry out" till there was nothing left but a withered husk. This is where the deadmen got their known name. There is little currently known on the deadmens culture as an ancient race.

The Cockroachkin were one of the two ancient races which built the cities of the underground. They had the form of lion sized metal cockroaches. This race appeared to be sentient mechinery with no ability to communicate to the other ancient races without help of a psychic (which their people could not produce). It is sead that they eventually betrayed the other 13 races for some unknown reason and they are the ones who locked the great tower at the center of Lucity.

>>22427587
Nice thanks man!

>>22427587
forgot name

Can anyone think of a better name for the race of protohumans other then "protohumans" ? lol

>>22427731
Hmm...maybe some bits and peices of a knowledge deity's name?
Like Ganesians?

>>22427731

Well I picked protohumans just because they wouldn't quite be the same race as regular humans, and in general I suck with names. We could call them troglodytes, which just means cave dweller.

>>22427731
The Burael.

>>22427809
That sounds goodish. Between Ganesians and Troglodytes I like both. What do you think?

>>22427826
I like that the best actually. It sounds awesome.

>>22427834
Glad you like it!

I should get a trip for this thread too. How do you get one again?

Feel free to change this if wanted, im going off of VERY little to write this race up.

The Purple Pipers were a race of humaniods with chitionus exoskeletons. They had multiple fingerlike appendages running down the length of their arms and were known to carry a pipe seemingly of their own being. They ranged from 5 - 7 feet in height. They were known to be masters of sound, so much so that they could create lasting barriers comprised solely of it. Parts of the ancient cities are sead to be still protected by these walls of sound.

>>22427809
Well as I imagined them being more advanced then the current humans of the surface I think we should stick away from Trog as its usually seen as lesser being.

If anyone who thought up the ancient races are unhappy with the lore im giving them please speak up. Most of their discriptions are very vague and im trying to fluff them up a bit. They might not come out as you pictured them.

>>22427844
A trip?

>>22427932
I think it's pretty good. Gonna read all over them again, might need a new name, but the idea of purple pipers being the name of a mythic race is really cool for me.

also I think that the common slang for people in this world should be a combo of Old Wild West and Aborigine and Aussie slang

>>22427844
Enter a name in the name field followed by one or two # (no spaces at all) and then a series of letters or numbers that you'll remember after it

>>22428025
Like this?

>>22428025

Yeah, this'l do.

anyone think my idea for the slang is any good? I love both styles and never get to use any in a game.

>>22428113

Eh, whatever, I kind of know old wild west, but am completely ignorant of aborigine, and, um, aware of aussie slang.

>>22428123
I had this great old Palladium book that had a ton of different ones in the back in my youth. Can't think where I placed it. I thought it might fit this "rough and tumble harsh land" feeling we have. And aborigine slang is really weird and focuses almost entirely on dreams. Thought that'd work well unless we wanted to come up with a brand new one. We could pick and choose.

name subject to change

The Griy were the most savage of the ancient races. They appear in the height range of humans but were very muscular with light grey to darker grey tough skin, having four eyes, no nose and a large tooth filled maw of a mouth in the middle of their heads. Their weapons although ugly in deseign are sead to be some of the best craftmanship this world has ever seen. Those who find a relic weapon of theirs are lucky indeed.

I like the name a lot. I was thinking that the Griy Celestial made the Orcs so his race could survive in a fashion.

>>22428185
hullo friends, didn't notice this had started i kinda like the idea of getting a name based on previous creations, so if you'll excuse me.

>>22427451
There could be a city remaining of the husks of what the deadmen left, Not really a "ghost city" just bodies repeating the same actions endlessly.

>>22428185
if that's happening I need to change my name

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Not all objects found in the desert are literal relics of the ancient races. Some of them are symbols or images that have been only recently dreamed into existence, maybe even by the subconscious minds of the PCs.

>>22428217
That's creepy. Man a psychic deadman is gonna be super-hate-crimed.

>>22428230
We still going with people occasionally getting pulled into the realm in a revenlofty way?

The Sporas were a race of fungus people. Ranging from 2 - 3 feet in height they were molted grey to light purple in colour. They had long thin arms with the ability to grow more appendages, they have no heads to speak of. They sense the world through vibration, only vibration, taste, and touch. This race was known to create the most beautiful of music and did so to compel their emotions and thoughts to others.

>>22428264
I still enjoy that. Some group of bored players will get drunk in an inn and *TADA!* crazy fucking campaign time motherfucker.

>>22428270
You are awesome Manta

>>22428264

Sure, stability is not, common, in this world, I mean hell, its called acid trip.

>>22428304
To quote from the last thread,
>Eberron Warforged gets sucked in
>error logic circits malfunctioning
>finally gets a hold of self, FLYING WHALES!
may or may not have been paraphrased a bunch

>>22428264
I really like the idea, that way if someone wanted to use this world in a campeign their pc dont have to know much about the world. They can be from known worlds and be pulled into a completelly alien and insane realm.

Imagine a wizard from faerun or a warforged from eberron or a gladiator from darksun being pulled into this setting.

>>22428270

Sporas only communicated through the use of music, as their bodies could not produce sound on their own. The most simple way for them to communicate was through hitting a rock on the ground in a set pattern.

>>22428330
>Hey guys, look a bear, let's kill it!
>OH DEAR GOD WHY

More ancient races, since we apparently need nine.

Personae are a race of wooden figures whose personalities are entirely derived from the clothes they're wearing and from a role inherent in their structure, similar to that in a play. They are broadly divided into two "sides": protagonist and antagonist, with more specific roles like love interest, close friend, and ally found among both sides. They treat reality as a drama, acting for the purpose of creating a good performance or compelling drama more than the benefit of one or another party.

>>22428312
Thank you lol, I just love the idea of a /tg/ made setting so unlike anything we've seen.

>>22428330
Man Darksun would spend so much time thinking he just found a weird area full of nice mages. Then bears.

>>22428349
Actually, we had 13, previous thread has them in a list

Chernoroch

The Chernoroch supposedly are a race of Nomadic people. Next to nothing is known about them, except that they travel in airships and whoever encounters one almost certainly never lives to tell the tale. The Chernoroch fly high up in the sky in their airships and use projectile weapons at pinpoint accuracy. They shoot at their target from higher than it can see them, impale it with a hook and pull it upwards, into the sky. Chernoroch are rarely seen, and it is often the case that they capture someone without their presence being known by the captured himself until it is too late. They travel much higher than most races can see, and with extraordinary eyesight you may catch a glimpse of one of their ships if they're flying low. Even the winged ones and the whales seem to fear and / or avoid the Chernoroch. An omen of an approaching Chernoroch attack is the sky being completely clear of any whales etc. etc.
So, boogymen for the setting.

>>22428349
We actually have 13 races , im just fleshing them out.

You can check out the previous thread here
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/22408772/

>>22428264
Interesting idea... anyone sucked into the world would be confused, and unable to base their logic around "the way the world works". Like they did in their home plane.

>>22428345

What is with this bear? Why is the sand attacking us.

>>22428349

We had a list of them, Manta is just transferring them to this thread, and cleaning things up a bit.

>>22428349
We have all 13 haha. they're on the last thread.
Non-Celestial
Dwarves
Proto-Humans
Cockroachkin

Celestial
Deadmen
Four-Eyed Savages
Wrestling Gorons
Psychic Manta Ray-Men
Archeans
Living Fungus People
Sentient Fire Elementals
Purple Pipers
Asrai

>>22428362
>>22428349
these might make awesome current races though for the land of sand

>>22428370

Oh yea, to expand on some stuff from the previous thread. Sand, and dirt just does what bears want, for a normal bear this mostly amounts to a sand dune not collapsing on them, for a dire bear, it can mean reshaping the landscape to their will.

>>22428349
Holy dicks those guys are perfect. Since our gods are concepts of story having a race of story makes sense. and the boogeymen are pretty damn cool too. Specially since we don't have many monsters in the game besides Bears and Demons. And I'd rather fight the demons.

>>22428361
Hm. If races are all accounted for, more acid trip stuff then.

The GM needs to pay careful attention to the moods of his players and their characters, since they shape the fabric of reality. The more frustrated and confused a player/character gets, the more difficult things get for him; the more relaxed and passive he is, the easier things are. You want to get to the top of that mountain? The height of it depends on how difficult the task is in your character's mind. Somebody smarter than me can try to put this into manageable crunch.

>>22428413
well, any monster the DM can think of could plausibly be in this world

>>22428430
Wow. This is gonna be awesome. So many fucking will saves heh.

The Archeans were a race of snake like people. Human sized with scales for skin ranging from grey all the way to yellow or red with complex paterns based on their lineage. They had four arms and legs with a large tail. This race was extremely cunning and quick witted known as masterful assasins and tactitians. They were the most warlike of the ancients.

>>22428413
Do know: You dont FIGHT the Chernoroch. You dont even know they are there (unless you are really, really aware of your surroundings) until they shoot you / stab a hook through your chest and haul you up into the sky. This is more of something like an ultra-deadly random encounter than a fight.

>>22428430

13th race are the forgotten, there are ruins, and ruined writing underground, but nothing to tell us who or what they were. The memory of this race was removed, or otherwise forgotten.

>>22428449
Ahh so run the fuck away encounter.

>>22428448
you forget the melding with the earth part

>>22428453
Haha yea we came up with that last night too!

>>22428449
>>22428462
The whales still don't give a shit.

>>22428386
I think that's 14 races, unless one counts as a "lesser" race

>>22428476
true, but the forgotten were decided when we had 2 ancient races to go, and then we got an extra somehow

>>22428476

Non-Celestial and Celestial are divisions, not races. Most of them ascended to Celestial, the others did not. 13th race are the forgotten.

>>22428476
No Celestial and Non-Celestial aren't races. That's what the races became. Just a second I typed it better in the doc.

>>22428462
You could call it that, yeah.

>>22428463
crap, I did

Adding to this then
>>22428448
They had the power over stone and could will the landscape around them to improve odds of their tactics success among other things.

>>22428494

Also from the other thread, some of the dead men didn't become celestial, as well as some of the Asrai didn't become celestial.

What was that name for the Proto-Humans someone came up with?

>>22428515
The Burael.

>>22428521
Dammit ,forgot mah trip.

The Nine Celestials are one of each of the Nine Ancient Races that are trapped inside the Obelisk. They protect mortals dreams from Demons. The Proto-Humans and the Dwarves both escaped the Obelisk before it closed. The Archimantles were cursed to die dreamless. The fourth non-Celestial race was forgotten forever.

>>22428521
thanks

We also have to remember the races which did become Celestials are trapped inside the tower in Lucity (the tower connected to the obelisk) in a stasis of sorts.

Or are we ditching that idea.... im not sure how its all gonna work out. Shit gets confusing in acid world lol

>>22428538
Shit gets confusing is practically the mission statement

Pools of Blood:

Throughout the Acidscape, there are splatters of blood across the ground, recalling the primitive, violent part of human nature. Being near them infuses people with a soothing mental clarity -- don't bother thinking; your instinct tells you to fight -- but also a powerful urge to kill any living thing that comes your way. You may even kill yourself if no challenger appears soon enough.

>>22428538
That's where there bodies are kept dreaming and all. Like the Obelisk helped them achieve Celestial-hood, but they're still trapped.

>>22428551
Veto.

>>22428567
Holy shit, our first veto in two threads

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>>22428576

That isn't true, the tree was vetoed, and transformed into the obelisk, with a tree growing around it feeding off its power. Sure the tree is still a thing, but there was a veto that made us make the obelisk. Though the tree only actually got two vetos cast against it.

>>22428593
oh, right, it just wasn't explicitly stated veto. welp

The Burael were the ancient race of humans, humans of the sand world are sead to be decendents of the orignals. One of the races who did not become celestials they fled to the surface of the sand after the fall of the under cities. Its a wide held belief by the sages of the sand that the Buraels were librarians of sorts amongst the ancient races.

>>22428593
Yea but the guy who made the Tree I think said that the Obelisk was a better idea.

>>22428551
I think im going to veto this as well, it seems very edgy for this world.

>>22428612

Nope, I did not. Though I will say the Result of the obelisk is WAY better than the tree.

>>22428610
>Buraels

Burael is Burael both in plural and single form.

>>22428551
I like this for a magic potion maybe. If you spill blood in the dreamscape and take it out it becomes this maybe? It's sorta kinda cool, not sure if I really want it in the world. So Veto if we can't figure out a better way to implement.

>>22428558
Ah okay

>>22428628
thank you for pointing that out. With names you never know.

Here's a nice confusing one for you.

Memory chains:

While people in the Acidscape may have known each other in the real world, their perceptions of one another are no longer the same. The most basic bond between people is a "chain" of memories that the two share of each other, which allows them to maintain constant perceptions of others that are fairly consistent with their real-world memories. Some chains, of course, are stronger than others. Individuals bound by a weak chain are more likely to see their chainmate transform (though they may not actually see a transformation) and will see such changes sooner. If a chain is broken, each chainmate disappears from the other's experience, though each is left holding some links, making it possible for them to bond with others, including rebonding with an old chainmate. Forming new memories with a person strengthens a chain; traumatic experiences, especially at the hands of one's chainmate, weaken the chain.

>>22428665
...well fuck

After a magic or dreamstorm in the desert, sometimes the intense power leaves the land glassed over.

>>22428683
makes sense

>>22428681
Basically, the less you knew someone in real life, the more likely it is you're going to see them turn into a maneating squid or some shit and the sooner it will happen.

>>22428665
wow...that's...that's beautiful. Like my mind is trying to wrap it's head around it
>>22428683
I like that also. gives notice to when those "anti-magicy" fields the storms leave are around.

Testing a trip, because it Might clear things up.

Also, the people of the vine can be born immortal(vs ageing, and thus the stress of magic), however the result is random, and none are sure they are immortal to to equally random lifespans, tens or hundreds of years. They also show no signs of aging but an increased risk of illness.

>>22428702
And now it's just flat out terrifying. So is the Acidscape what we're gonna call the Dreamscape from now on? Cause if so you sir have my bow.

>>22428702
The person who is changed retains who they are, just how they are perceived is different? Am I reading that right?

Dwarfs are kinda tricky writing up... since they are an ancient race and very few exist im not sure how to word it all. If someone else wants to take a shot on the dwarf disription they should go for it.
Key points to them
>non playable characters
>locked in a stasis for the past who knows how long
>looking for a way to enter the tower either to become celestial themselfs or to free the other races from being celestials.
>they wander the under cities in hopes of finding a way to unlock the tower

This is what Lovecraft would've wanted us to do.

>>22428717
Might as well, it's what we've been calling the threads

>>22428726
Yeah. They don't see themselves as being changed. Only one person sees them that way. A person who is bound to multiple people can be perceived by each of them in vastly different ways.

>>22428745
>>22428726
>>22428665
This would make roleplaying in this setting nigh-impossible though.

>>22428726
By you alone too. So a group of adventurers go into the Acidscape together at lvl 1 they might watch each other explode into unearthly nightmares. lvl 15 they'll be like "yo bro, let's kill that dreamsquid"

>>22428745
Terrifying, and not easily seen through. I like it.

>>22428745
jesus fuck that could get confusing, but I really like it if thats how it works in the dream/acid-scape

>>22428731

No, I think he wanted us to kill all the non whites. In this setting the only white people so far are actually the elves do to living on sky islands that don't face the suns, all the humans are at least tan, maybe some rare albinos.

>>22428784
I like the idea that the Winged Ones have really weird things they do as a culture cause everyone is a psychic.

Gorons were a race of stone like people, large and bulky they looked like a mass of animated boulders. The race is thought to be the oldest of the ancients and made from the plane itself. Precieved as wise and loving creatures they introduced wrestling and the bonding nature of friendly competition to the ancients.

>>22428838
Haha we shouldn't use the name Goron cause..ya know...zelda.

Rolled 3

>>22428838
speaking of this, there are now this many primal race, not counting the Sky Whales

>>22428777

Supporting it as well, if only as a dream thing. If it happens in the real world, it would cause society to break down, would be really hard to deal with.

>>22428838

Kind of need a new name for them though. Cause we are sort of ripping them from zelda.

>>22428848
indeed, I was thinking the same thing while writing it up

So, thoughts on a name for the rock people everyone?

>>22428859
Lao?

>>22428838
Veto the name gorons, the similarities to other names/races are too much.
Also, to be fair, there are a lot of primal races.
A new, fledgling race perhaps?

>>22428853
We know Dragons are one, since they fell from Whale-itude.

>>22428869
maybe something like Amphibolitious ?
Im just trying to get it to fit the whole rock beings thing
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibolite

>>22428886
fledgeling, sure 3 new races, go

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>>22428771
It's pretty different for sure, but not impossible. It's basically just roleplaying a constant state of hallucination;" no matter what the other player's character sheet says, the weakening of my chain with him has caused me to view him as a snarling lizardman barbarian, at least for a while". Memory chains are just a concept, but putting them into mechanics shouldn't be too hard. Assuming point-build, you can put points into chains with other PCs, and then they can get weakened or strengthened by negative or positive events.

Speaking of which, how about this: when all of a PC;s chains are broken and he is unable to form a new one in a suitable period of time, he either a) flips out and snaps back to reality in a sweaty, traumatic panic attack, fearful of reentering the Acidscape or b) loses all contact with reality and memory of the world, including the ability to form relationships, and has no option but to go deeper into the Acidscape, possibly becoming assimilated into the Scape itself after a time.

>>22428838
I think the name should be Jargles. It sounds fun personally. Like they probably were.

>>22428853

Silphy, a race seemingly comprised of light, they are actually made of small filaments of fibrous material, which caries light from their core. Their core is a small sphere at their center, wrapped in the fibrous material, the center of which is a glowing liquid crystal.

They are hard to find, and wander the entire world, mostly indifferent to the people living there. Its said they repair the land and seek to maintain the physical stability of the world. If someone attacks a Silphy while others are around, they will still only fight the single one they attacked as they will not come to the aid of anyone.

>>22428859
I would have to suggest levah/levahs.

>>22428853
I say we make it Dragons, to honor our world building friends here, a massive Manta Ray that is said to have made the Sand Realm and a mysterious Lady of the Vine who holds the one secret The Great Blue Whale doesn't know. The entire Language of the Vines and the spells with it.

Since y'all needed something to fight besides Demons 'n Bears:

The Raup

The Raup is a giant insect, something like a cross between a crab and a fly. It is a parasite, and it feeds off the whales flying through the sky. In fact, Raups are born on the whales, and some are lucky enough to die on them. But most of the time they simply fall off, not having enough strength to hold on. On the ground, the Raups must learn to fend for themselves and for their food. They are as big as a sturdy closet, have 4 legs, strong jaws and a sturdy carapace, which is valued amongst armorers across the land. The Raup's tactic is usually to bury itself beneath the sand and then bite into the unfortunate souls that happens to wander above it, hauling it into the sand to consume. Once the Raup spots a prey, it shall not let it go. That is because Raups are still accustomed (most of the time) to the constant feeding from the Whales. This makes the hunger of the Raup nearly limitless, and they will pursue and try to eat nearly everything that comes into their sight. After living 10 years (a lifetime most Raup will never reach) the Raup grow wings and become much larger, stronger and toughter overall. They abandon their burying methods and often make nests for themselves, using pheromones to attract other Raup to serve as guardians. They may fly off to drop off their eggs onto a whale from time to time, but the rest of the time they're sitting in their nests and creating a massive amount of eggs to haul off with them on their next whale-trip.

>>22428920

But we already have societies and towns, which would be neigh impossible to develop in a world of constant hallucination.

>>22428982
Since Orcs were made by the Griy Celestial and given a hatred of the Cockroachkin but no knowledge of what those are, they hunt the Raup ritualistically. No one, including the Orcs, know why they do it. It's just what's done.

these guys need a name

______ were a race of sentient beings composed of flames. These fire elementals were known as greatest artists of their time. This was the race who built the artificial sun for the underground. The suns played a key part of their religous and spiritual beliefs as they believed they would become part of one in their afterlife.

>>22428838
Gannochs.

>>22428986
Well the Sand Realm and the Acidscape are different. Acidscape is the world of dreams, the Sand Realm is the world of waking.

>>22428916
Zibdobons, a race resembling golden-scaled Chinese dragons. Their presence causes everything to take a different, more beauteous form: fiery explosions becomes showers of paint; fights become dances; rectangular skyscrapers become organic tree-cities. They also induce harmonious outcomes to nearby events (and, crucially, increase the likelihood of memory chains being strengthened).

They are capable of flight and telepathy, as well as extending their bodies and minor feats of conjuration. They are attracted to the emotions of Hope, Faith and Wonderment.

>>22429004
Flaemgynn.

>>22429015
>>22428970
>>22428948
Alright let's take a vote on which of these Primal races are gonna be one of the four.

>>22429015
cool, it should be noted that the Dragons were cursed to never fly as high as the Sky Whales because of a betrayal long ago. This was stated in the previous thread

>>22428970

I was meaning to get around to the name I grabbed.

The Lady of the Vine is the leader of the people of the vine. She is said to be the oldest among them, she is both immortal, and still able to reshape her body's growth at will. She is treated more as a deity than as a ruler, and spends most of her time away from her people within the great tree that grows around the obelisk.

>>22429023
Dragons and the massive Manta Ray. BUT! I'm not talking no cliche-dragons. We're going to think of our own Dragons. Lady of the Vine seems too cliche for this world.

>>22428853
Speaking of which, the whales, since you created them, are they whales in the "traditional" sense with baleen, and fins, or similar to whale sharks, with gaping mouths, or orca whales, with teeth?

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>>22429040
Well, I vote for my own, obviously.

>>22429047
Both. The Great Blue Whale itself is a Blue whale about the size of, oh say, the empire state building.

>>22429045

I'm indifferent, really I am. They are a cliche because I was just trying to think of anything as a primal race.

>>22429047
I so hope they are. Just normal whales being wahly.

Im not sure which to vote for but, Manta Rays seem cool lol

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>>22429045
I say these count as "Dragons" along with the more traditional. Just..just with more wings.

>>22429063
Aw man. I was hoping that at the very least they'd be even more ridiculously huge or something.

And on the subject of voting, are there even enough people in the thread who didn't submit a race for the vote to be considered meaningfult?

>>22429101
Uhhh...good point.

>>22429023
>>22429084
Dragons would've had to have been around for the whole betrayal/cursing thing, so really it's between the other two races

>>22429115
I think Manta Rays are in since that's like three votes including mine
>>22429045
>>22429084

>>22429101

Maybe, maybe not, I don't care myself. Though I guess I want the lady of the vine to not be one of the primals, as I grabbed the name in reference to some of the stuff I added. Namely the people of the vine, and I was the one who came up with the tree, and then shifted it into something that feed on/was produced by the obelisk. I have had a bit of a plant theme.

>>22429045

DRAGONS or in their original tongue: The Tzimiteotl


The Tzimiteotl are massive serpents, with scales glistering in the sun, once ablaze with divine fire. They are often horned, and have snouts as if they were mammals. They have giant eyes aglow with ever-burning light, and are powerful psychics. One look into their eyes can kill a man or turn him to stone, lest he can resist the powerful energy the Tzimiteotl radiate. They are gigantic in size, easily rivaling the length and height of a big skyscraper. The Tzimiteotl were one of the few primal races, and they once ruled over the desert in peace with the whales. However, a betrayal (that i do not know of yet) has condemned them, and the whales tore off their wings. Because of that, most of the serpents died off, and only those that adapted survived. The serpents now still have some of their past energy in them, and still are mighty, but they are scattered, hidden and few. They are very intelligent. They traverse beneath the sand, and hide in caves and canyons. This is why they are so hard to find.

>>22429152
haha

>>22429157

DRAGONS or in their original tongue: Dovakin!
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sorry I'll go to the corner

>>22429157
I like this, and would like to add the betrayal was stealing knowledge (as it seems to be kind of the whales thing) of how to kill. Appropriate enough to condemn a race, yes?

>>22429157
In the early days of the Acidscape, The Great Blue whale nearly ascended to godhood, but was betrayed by his draconic allies/children/friends/whatever the hell they were to him. For this, he cursed them to never fly as high, and gave/took away their wings as a cruel reminder

>>22429157

The betrayal in the other thread was

>Dragons are said to be the children of the betrayers of the great blue whale, cursed to never fly as high as the whales but given wings to taunt them

That's it.

>>22429157
Also that sounds great. Long creepy ass serpent pigs crawling out of caverns to attack villages.

Last of the Ancient races (with the exception of dwarf which I dont know how I should write up)

The Asrai, pseudo water elementals, when exposed to bright light their bodes are forced to turn to water only the strongest could retain their shape. Entirely a female race, they were shapeshifters, being able to modify their body, at least to some extent do to their amorphous nature.

>>22429191
Seems that's changed now, eh?

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>>22429157
C-can we compromise and say that my style of dragon and your style of dragon were different civilizations or something that were contemporary to one another? I th-think the beauty/emotion thing really suits the flavor of the setting...

>>22429197
I do like his description of them

Rolled 8

>>22429207

Sure, I don't care much. On that note, my statements of apathy are mostly because I have a cold.

>>22429208
Yours is a race of dragon-kin who have recently come into existence, his are the remenants of a cursed race

>>22429224
Works for me.

>>22429222
Hey, by possibility you're not Ielf of giams old server are you?

So, can we get a vote on the memory chains?

1) For them in the entire world
2) For them only in the dream world
3) Against the idea.

Personally I vote 2

>>22429252

No, particularly as I do not know what that is.

>>22429262
3.

>>22429262
i would vote 2

>>22429262
A vote for 2 is a vote for our children

>>22429262
#2 as well


She was a person who played on /tg/s old minecraft server, you sorta gave me the feeling you were her lol

>>22429262
leaning towards 3 but 2 wouldn't be terrible.

>>22429206
I'll do Dwarf.

The Dwarves were one of the younger races, found and brought up by the Lau (Gorons placeholder). They learned to drink with the rockmen, in fact besting them many times, and became as boisterous and battle-ready as the Lau were soft-spoken and kind-hearted. Though war nearly broke out many times a simple meeting was all that was needed, mead included of course. The fall, as some say, of the Ancients came as no surprise to the Dwarves. They never trusted "da roaches" as the called them, so a betrayal was never far from there minds. The Lau Chief would hear no such thing though, so the Dwarves left by themselves. Though few remain, a burning passion unites them. To find the Archimantles and watch them burn...for the Lau.

>>22429262
I vote yes on memory chains in the Acidscape
2

>>22429296
I think that's a bit too high-fantasy.

SO IT IS SETTLED

memory chains will be only used in the acidspace

>>22429296
Im agreeing with
>>22429319
It needs a little bit of tweaking, not too to much but a little.

>>22429319
>>22429343
I can abide by that. Not too terribly attached, though the tragic idea that the Dwarves want to kill a race that might already be completely dead is one I'd like to keep.

>>22429325
What about my suggestions about what happens when all your chains are broken and you can't form a new one fast enough? They were that you either snap back to reality and are traumatized by the experience, or you get lost forever and melt into the Acidscape. Maybe it can be situational. Let's talk about it.

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>>22429359
Moar art if anyone needs some imagination jumpstart.

>>22429367
I enjoy that. Sounds like a neat conversation. Maybe "Lost Ones" are the reason you never enter by yourself except while dreaming. If you enter outside of that you're easier prey for demons. Moar peeps means moar protection.

>>22429386
sounds good

Iv gone ahead and archived the thread like I did the last one.
Can be found here
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html
Remember to vote if you enjoyed the thread.

Those who dont know how the archive works it'll archive everything posted till the thread 404's.

>>22429386
If you don't enter the Acidscape alone and you break your chains, then you're lost. If your lucky a Celestial or one of there servants will find you and you'll become a roaming dreamling of protection. Most people aren't lucky.

>>22429367

Sounds good.

>>22429423
Nice our last post got to 10!

>>22429439
>>22429386

Oh idea here, you could also be reduced down to your soul, basically dying, but about to be reborn. Cause we already decided that souls come from the acidscape.

>>22429439
I don't mean that as a end all. I want discussion since I don't think my idea is good enough yet.

>>22429463
Oh yea and twins only have one! Our game gets weirder the more you look into it.

>>22429374
Hm. That hermit crab-looking fella is giving me all kinds of ideas, like some kind of creature without a brain that instinctively searches for other brains to use as its own, or it could build a shell out of memories and feelings. Holy shit this setting is sounding better all the time
.>>22429464
I was musing on the implications of "melting into the Acidscape". I was thinking that you would retain your consciousness, or at least some of it, and become something akin to a local god of a little geographic area, or basically a face in a hill. Being merged with the Acidscape cuts you off from independent movement, but it means you are bonded with the other Lost Ones who comprise and experience the Acid alongside you (yes, every time a soul is Lost, the Acid gets bigger and more powerful).

>>22429374
that actually gave me an idea. A race that is exclusively carnivorous, but far beyond the norm. Think wood elves, in reverse. Due to pyschological, and physical needs, they refuse to use anything that wasn't part a creature, for any purpose.
dark black, with black horizantally white slitted pupils, with gangly limbs, and myriads of fingers. They select a town/city/country, and feed off its living. A couple go missing here, some blamed murders there, and rarely, very rarely, they kill everyone, and take everything (usually the youngest overthrowing the eldest do this) and some time after they move on. They could have an exceptionally long metabolism, so aren't widely known, due to how little they eat/how fast the victims dissapear.

>>22429476

Yea, I threw in the twins only get one soul pretty early last thread. Maybe twins are both very well suited to being in the acidscape, and more susceptible to its risks. Such as if only one of the twins goes, they have a high chance of at worst coming back to reality next to their twin. However though twins would naturally have a very strong memory chain, as they only have one soul, that chain doesn't count.

So let's type up the Modern Races from last Thread and figure that jazz out since we're adding a few.

Orcs
Elves
Humans
Dwarves
Deadmen
Hollow Ones (tall and spindley)
People of the Vine
Dopplegangers
Deadmen
Carnivorous Race
Coral Reef Parasite People
Personae>>22428349
Chernoroch>>22428362

>>22429504

How would they treat the people of the vine? Cause the people of the vine are plants.

>>22429514
Well that sucks for the twins. Kinds. Makes it interesting and probably the only game where someone will have to tell me if they are or aren't a twin.

>>22429374
I'm also digging the bird with glasses. What's he holding? Is it a scroll or a rolling pin? Either way, his appearance suggests an intelligent and cultured race. Perhaps they can transmute objects into visually similar objects with some kind of spooky acid powers.

>>22429547
Well they wouldn't eat them. Maybe they try to avoid them all together to better hide there race.

>>22429374
dat hammerhead squid thingy

>>22429374
I'm also digging the bird with glasses. What's he holding? Is it a scroll or a rolling pin? Either way, his appearance suggests an intelligent and cultured race who have given more study to the Acid or Sand (whichever we decide they live in). Perhaps they can transmute objects into visually similar objects with some kind of spooky powers -- I mean, if you can use a scroll as a rolling pin, you've got me beat.

>>22429563
Maybe there the /tg/ race. A bunch of psychics who just trade information constantly without ever relizing the power they hold.

>>22429504
I NEED THIS


THEY MAKE SWORDS OUT OF BONE AND MONSTER TEETH AND FANGS AND SHIT

>>22429547>>22429571
Probably with something like pure hate. Something along the lines of "these don't deserve to be in our world"
you actually just gave an idea for their religion.
"the church of the infinite limbs"

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>>22429599
The "Monster Hunter" race...except people instead of monsters.

>>22429599
speaking of monsters, what all kinds of monsters does this world hold, inside of the acidscape, and out?

>>22429626
yes. exactly. Not explicitly people though, because that would be far too much of a challenge. they would have died out, especially in this realm.

>>22429639
>>22429626
Not people, not monsters....ALL FLESH!

>>22429628
Inside are the Demons. Better explained in the doc but copypasta.
The Nine Demon Lords and their ilk are the nightmarish creatures that prey on our dreams. Each lord owns a few fears (ex. the Demon Bear Ursus owns bears, caverns, being eaten alive, and shares darkness with another Lord and rules over the Animal Fears). A mortal can become a Demon if they are filled with enough dark emotions. Generally that means they committed suicide (not all suicides make you a demon, just some). Any newly created Demon starts at the lowest caste and has to work his way up. One Demon Lord is said to have been a Mortal once.
Bears. Bears are like the scariest motherfuckers in the history of motherfuckers in the sand. One is even a Demon Lord.
Chernoroch>>22428362
Dragons, cursed lizard beasts who used to be friends with the Whales before they were cast down.

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>>22429599
Swords out of bone are cliche.
Why not swords INSTEAD of bones? Personifications of war and aggression, clanking around and destroying life not for food, but simply out of instinct. Perhaps they can add the bones of their victims to their bodies, making them even more formidable. Perhaps these can be the Acidscape counterpart to this Sand-world species.

>>22429668
And now the Carnivores. I saw they're the Fleshmen, mages of there's are called Fleshsmiths.

>>22429599

Actually animal part weapons may well be popular in this setting. We need more animals from which to take armor and weapons from.

Derferon, Spindly clawed creatures, with both an exoskeleton and an internal skeleton. Their two skeletons connect through structures within the body making them incredibly resilient. They have long thin limbs, and a bulbous core body, which holds their hearts. They move their limbs with hydraulic forces by pumping their hearts. They have great strength, but do not move rapidly, and also move in a predictable fashion.

They eat metal ores with which they strengthen their claws and exoskeleton.

>>22429655
Yes. So much yes.

>>22429672
That is the Acidscape counterpart I say. We have bone wielding boogeymen and the Acidscape has bone welding boogeymen.

>>22429668
Oh and the Raup>>22428982
>>22429001

Dear god....To think somebody will have to write this down and summarize it.

>>22429741
I already did a bit of last nights thread. Going to ask my players tomorrow if they want to run this setting instead of our "traditional fantasy" game.

>>22429741
not it! yeah, it would be a nightmare, this is hardly organized

>>22429741
I could at least get down whats in this thread. I'm sad to say i didn't participate in the last.

>>22429763
Much like our setting, this thread is a confusing and dangerous place with no discernible logic.

>>22429772
There's a summary of the last thread in the first few posts. Also, archives are your friend.

So about our elves, we have two types right now. Winged ones, who are all psions, and a group of land elves, who are not psions.

Can we keep it there? Because people do have big tendency to split them into everything ever.

Surface elves should also be brown,(like everyone on /tg/ likes) because of the suns, and some possible interbreeding with humans. The winged ones living on the sky islands and being sheltered from the suns are pale.

>>22429785
that's pretty much it about them, yeah

>>22429785
I'd like to keep them there. High and wood are all you ever need. I think the Winged Ones should have ridiculous lifetimes of like 1,000 and so. The normal elf Elves are all 200-300 in there life times.

>>22429785
Agree with everything you said.

>>22429806
>>22429823
>>22429804
>>22429802
Pretty sure it's nearly unanimous.

Since we need more bony animals, here goes:

An animal that rolls around in a ball made out of its own bone. All through its life, a hollow ball of bone grows on its head, until it grows too big and breaks off. The creature (I'm seeing something like a horny toad) then crawls inside through a hole in the structure. The ball is about six feet in diameter.

>>22429759
>asking your players

no no no no, ask them to create characters for a regular world then spring this world on them with the whole "characters can be pulled from other realms into this one" thing.

>>22429783
I have good enough friends to have been linked to this thread and the previous one in the archives. I just don't think i can do the last one justice.

>>22429858
>>22429858
you're welcome

>>22429759
You playing IRL or online?

>>22428369
Well, unless they find one of the null zones where magic doesn't work, causing things to follow conventional physics.

>>22429844
I have something the reverse, since everything here seems dangerous, or explicitly trying to kill you (except the one you made)
Its called the nutrund, and its its like a big squirrel without the teeth. They don't feel much pain below the waist, as its in their genetic makeup for a very specific reason. Apart from the head, they can regenerate a decnet bit of their bodies. However, they don't have children often, and regenerating anything more then a foot drastically cuts their lifespean. they can survive in the harsh deserts by eating (insert a weird desert fruit here) and are used by the modern races as sort of a facsimile for cows.

>>22429785

So sense you are all with my on that post, here is another on elves.

Max life span,(ignoring life extending methods) is 1000 years. This is like a human reaching 110. Most elves, particularly do to using magic, live only to 500, which is their average life expectancy. Average may be nearly 600 for winged ones, and closer to 400 for surface elves, do to the relative dangers of each environment.

>>22429924
My roommates and a coworker

I'll also be running what we have so far with a small group of friends.

I hope we can get to the point where we can publish this as a real setting to Wizards of the Coast.

>>22429961
We milk giant squirrels? That's...that's fantastic.
Also that's what your Eberron Warforged falls in front of when he ports in.

Hey, Orcfag from the previous thread. Have some ideas. As always, if you wanna change something, go for it.

The Halflings of Desh are extremely isloationist. Their stronghold is all but self sufficient. When they do require something from the outside world they select a citizen that has not been pulling their weight or doesn't tow the line. The intention is to make them see the harsh reality of the outside world, though often these outcasts find themselves much more at home in the desert and take up the mantle of wanderer after returning with the item they set out to retrieve (if at all).

All metal is highly sort after in the desert, coinage is often made of base metals such as Iron and Bronze, as Gold is so spectacularly rare. As a result miners and mine-owners are disproportionately wealthy. Miners are usually Humans or Dwarves. The only profession more highly valued is that of Blacksmith. Smiths are considered great artisans, and only the wealthiest families can afford to have their children apprentice under them. Every country and faction attempts to keep a high number of Smiths under it's employ, and they are treated very well by all but the most short-sighted rulers.

While to an outsider two Orc caravans might seem disparate in both ideology and countenance it is extremely rare for Orcs to turn on each other. All Orcs know that the preservation of the Secrets outweighs any petty squabbles and only the most ruthless and unscrupulous of Caravaners would ever put a Knower at risk. Whenever a pair of Caravans meet they exchange some of their younger members to keep the bloodlines varied, unless the Caravans are hostile for some reason, these rare meetings are always cause for great celebration.

The arid conditions of most of the world make farming difficult. Crops must be able to thrive with little-to-no water while livestock must be hardy. Large land-dwelling lizards make up the majority of herd-animals, alongside goats and oxen.

>>22430037
Agreed! Once we polish it all up nice and shiny I saw we send it in.

>>22430046
>hopefully end up finishing this before D&Dnext is fully released
>this becomes the frontline setting for D&Dnext like Eberron was for 3.5

Cuz it's always good to have more monsters:

Nerlots are hairy (fur is brightly colored, most often blue or yellow), goblin-like beings who have the bizarre ability to hitch rides with travellers between the Acid and reality by parroting a suitable amount of their personal mannerisms. In the Acid, Nerlots can drain power from people by learning and demonstrating information about their true selves, feeding off their energy and threatening their personal identity; however, if the psychonaut becomes aware of this jiggery pokery, they can reclaim the mimicked attributes, siphoning off power from the Nerlot. Doing this enough will scare the Nerlot away. Nerlots native to the Acid and can't either dimension of their own power; they must hitch a ride with a traveller. Nerlots can live for extremely long periods of time, as long as there are beings with mannerisms around.

>>22429961

The nutrund have thick, hollow hairs which insulate them from the heat of the world and are bright, reflecting much of the suns' light. Do to being hollow these hairs are impossible to work into clothing, as they break easily in processing. (for sense of squirls being hairy, and making that mesh in the world, and the comment above about only dire bears being the only reliable source of good hair for clothing)

They like to eat Lefor fruit, Lefor trees growing in the desert are hard and woody, often short and without leafs, they grow only in magic rich areas, where they absorb some magic as part of their biologic process. They help to stabilize these areas to an extent. Their fruit is hard for most races to digest, and is either cooked for a long time, or used as feed for animals.

>>22430045
Dwarves are supposed to be few and rare. So maybe they aren't the miners.

>>22430059
Goddamn Next would be fucking bizarre. Official Adventure Book 1: Search for the Sky Whale

>>22430061
Hm, Like glaringly reflective? or like, a white sheet of paper reflective. either way, i like it.