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"Alright, if you're on our side let's go back to my house." I respond, after giving it some thought. "We need to figure out what to do about the two Archers and Assassin, as well as Avenger."

Lancer nods. "If you're attacked along the way, having a servant would help there as well." He changes into normal clothing while we wait for the cab to arrive, and returns wearing the same Hawaiian shirt combo he had at the Ramen shop.

After an uneventful drive back to my house, Kirei greets us at the door. He helps us inside, and then asks the cab driver to wait there for him. he pulls me aside, into the yard. "We need to talk."

"Yeah, we do." I return, getting ready to confront him about what I found in the basement.

"Caster told me about the Second Archer running around. Rin's father summoned him during the last war. After Tokiomi died, I formed a contract with him since I had already lost my Assassin." He looks me dead in the eye. "At the end of the last war, the last thing I saw before your father shot me and left me to die, was his death. I felt the contract between us Sever, and I watched him fade away."

"And he died?"

"I assumed so." he responds, deep in thought. "But if he's been moving in the shadows for ten years, he's either more cunning or more powerful than we realized. Possibly both, knowing who he is."

I take a deep breath. "Alright, so then... as administrator, what do you think is happening?"
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>>22312117

"I have no idea. Sadly, I don't have the ability to just call off the war until things are settled. The best I could do is call this in and get everyone killed." He says darkly. "And even then, the grail might still be summoned but without even these flimsy rules and order keeping the situation contained."

"So what now?"

"The best I can think of is to continue the war, and hope we can find steer it to a more favorable end. I'm not allowed to involve myself in affairs beyond a certain point, but I suppose I can always offer advice. The rest is up to you."

"Me?"

"I was thinking more of the Masters and Servants as a whole." He says, looking away. "Sadly, I can't tell you anything about the other Archer. there's a geas preventing me from revealing any of Tokiomi's secrets to anyone but his Heir.

>I'll let you debate the next course of action from here.
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1. Put someone on "spam Rin's cell phone" duty. Even if nothing comes of it, it might annoy that dickass Archer a bit, which is a victory in its own right.

2. If Rider isn't back yet, put our heads together with Caster and think about alternate methods of locating Rin. Its possible Archer took some sort of precaution against Rider just using her Servant senses to home in on her, so we should formulate a backup plan.

3. Did anyone bring our new motorcycle?
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Well shit, I missed something. To the last thread!
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>>22312124
Attempt to get a hold of Rin again, Talk to Saber about possibly not having a soul and how that could really hurt our chances at winning the grail war
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Now that we're not in crisis mode, lets talk to Saber/Caster about the whole lacking-a-soul business. Next priority would be figuring out where the fuck Archer took Rin.
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>>22312124

Well, Geas' can be fooled.

I say we get a wig and be Kirei's Rin-chan for the night.
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>>22312124
Spamcall Rin.
Find bike. Fix bike.
Ask Cain who the gold Archer is (seriously the guy calls himself King of Heroes, and Cain knows 'all the stories' so he MUST know who he is) and if he can take his form. Prepare for existential trolling.
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>>22312336

I vote we put Lancer on spamming duty, I seem to remember then getting along almost as well as we do.
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>>22312117
Spam RIn's cell, plan how to find Rin with Caster and Saber, talk to Caster about not having a soul.
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>>22312577
Trolling Gil with a third faker? I like you.
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>>22312124

Ask rider if she got an idea of where rin is.

Also cook breakfast for Saber, Rider, Caster and Souchirou-sensei. Make sure porridge is on the menu there for Caster to feed him.

Then time to sleep for awhile. Rest is required.
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I slowly take stock of the situation, and go to speak with Caster and Saber.

"No change yet?" I ask, and Saber shakes her head.

"It's odd." Caster says, looks at his unconscious form. "I can't read him or do anything to examine him too closely. It's like something's in the way. But whenever I try to see what's stopping me, it's like grasping at smoke."

I nod along, listening. "Weird." I comment. "Any guess as to what could be causing it?"

"Assassin might know. Him or Archer, since they were the ones in a position to do something to him. I doubt this is the work of a normal Mage."

I ask caster about my inability to reform my contract with Saber. She tells me that she's never heard of something like that. "I was hoping you might have more insight." I sigh, disappointed.

"Well the only things I can think of, that you're some sort of Demon or something would have prevented you from making the contract in the first place. I can't see how you could have changed that dramatically over a couple of days without anyone noticing."

I step outside for a moment, and almost literally run into Lancer. "Kirei just left." He tells me. "Something about violating his neutrality."

"Yeah, he couldn't stay." I respond. "Any sign of Rider?"

"Not yet." He gives me a look. "When was the last time you slept, kid?"

".... Uh, I think a got a couple of hours in yesterday morning."

He sighs. "Go sleep. Dedication is good, but so is knowing your limits."
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>>22313046

I concede the point. "After I make something for them to eat, I'll go catch a few. Do me a favor though?"

"Depends on the favor."

I hand him my phone. "Call Rin's number every once in a while, see if anyone picks up. If anything happens, let me know."

He nods, pocketing the device and then sits down in the yard, seeming to think.

I go and make some food. Porridge and toast, mostly. Saber thanks me, embarrassed slightly by her growling stomach, and caster takes a bowl away.

Content with my deeds, I go and lie down. I begin to close my eyes, when I feel a weight on my chest. I look up and see Assassin's mask staring down at me.

>?
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>>22312942
Also try to go out of our way to teach Caster some wifey things she can do fo Souichibro while he's recovering.
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>>22313066

Whatdiya want? Can't a man catch a few hours of sleep?
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>>22313066

"Can this wait like, five minutes? The last two days have been nothing but train-wreck and you aren't pretty enough for me to put off sleep any longer."

When it inevitably can't wait, see what he wants. No reason to anger him too much when he's got the drop.
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>>22313066
Say hello. This is freakin' Assassin they'd have killed us if they really wanted to. I bet they're looking for a new master since we killed his.
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>>22313066
Punch him. No one ruins our beauty sleep.
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>>22313139

Actually no... Zouken's true form is a crest worm.

That monster is still out there.
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>>22313066
Do you know how rude it is to interrupt someone that's trying to get some sleep?
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>>22313117

I like this one. A lot.

>>22313162

Probably, yeah. But Metagaming.
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>>22313162
About that crest worm...
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>>22313066
"Alright I get Saber or Rin watching me sleep, but dude this is just weird"
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>>22313260

>my sides
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>>22313066
What does it say about me that I'm less worried that Assassin is watching me sleep, and more disappointed that it isn't Rider instead?
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>>22313066
heh >>22313117
heheh >>22313260
heheheheheh
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>>22313310

>rider watching assassin watching shirou
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>>22313359
Who watches the watchmen?
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>>22313066
Calmly say "I'm not into guys."
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>>22313370

Sakura.
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>>22313380

..And she is totally the reason why we cannot let her contract with Saber.

The moment she finds out Saber is after Shirou, she'll Command Seal her to Lancer herself.
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>>22313375

Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. This could be our only shot at getting laid this entire quest. I say we go for it!
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>>22313411
Probably not, Sakura is ALOT more mentally stable this route. Not having all the Angrymanjew inside of you kinda fucks with your sanity.
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>>22313416
We're not getting laid until the end of the disturbance, and anyways if we screw assassin we are by proxy screwing Old man Zouken.
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>>22313463

No but we can replenish mana.
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>>22313484

I'd like to replenish my mana onto Sakura's breasts, if you know the vernacular
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>Alright, what's going on?

>Seriously, are you going to snark him, talk to him, or try to ..... seduce him? What the fu-
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>>22313577

Snark by seducing him.
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>>22313577
Snark, then talk since he will inevitably not leave us alone. If the mood is right after that, then.. well.. nature can just take it's course.
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>>22313577
Calmly reject his advances in a snarky manner.
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>>22313577

Use the Rider/Rin for best effect.
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>>22313577
Seduce him by snarking and then have a nice long conversation.

But seriously, might as well have Shirou freak a little and then have a chat.
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>>22313577
Snark! Snark! Snark!
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>>22313577
Snark, and see what the fuck he wants (considering he must want SOMETHING since we aren't dodging knives right now).

We aren't seducing him. That was just the final stop of a train of logic that got taken a few steps too far.
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>>22313577
/tg/ - The Land of Dreams
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>>22313577

put ponos to eye socket and j-j-j-j-jam it in
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>>22313638
You have to admit though that would have bought us a few seconds more to gather our thoughts.
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>>22313577

I was joking when I brought up seduction, but now I want to see what happens.

Seriously though, snark. It's in character for our Shirto.
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>>22313705

>Shirto
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>>22313705

Yes. This Shirou flirts when he is in dangerous situations.

Flirting with assassin is totally in character.
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>>22313712
Fuck. Damn, am I glad I'm anon.
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>>22313727
It is in character to attack the other party when we think our life is in danger. It's just that we're using words this time.
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I sigh. "Can this wait like, five minutes? The last two days have been nothing but train-wreck and you aren't pretty enough for me to put off sleep any longer."

He looks at me, silent.

"Alright, seriously? So you know how rude it is to interrupt someone trying to sleep? I guess I can see Saber or Rin checking in on me, but this is just creepy."

He continues to simply stare at me.

"Alright, that tears it. Are you actually Assassin? Or did someone sneak a mannequin in my room to fuck with me?"

"I'm real enough." He responds. "I just figured it would be a good idea to let you get your insolence out of your system before I took you to see my Master."

"You got a new one already?" I ask, disappointed. "Congrats. Now unless you can give a me a compelling reason to leave my comfortable bed in the middle of the night then I'm going to have to ask you to leave." A knife thunks into the floor next to my head. "I'll scream rape. Don't think I won't."

"There is no reason for this hostility, Shirou. My Master desires the same as you in the short term, so meeting with him isn't out of the question. Will you speak? Or shall we let blades do the talking?"

[ ] Talk.
[ ] KILL.
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>>22313813
Can you get me out of here without anyone noticing? More importantly can you guarantee that I will return unharmed?

We might need to listen to Zouken, despite knowing what a bastard he is.
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>>22313813

[x] Fuck.

Seriously, let's see if we can bring someone else to the meeting. He probably isn't trying to murder us right now, but we might want to watch out for fates worse than death.
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>>22313813
[x] Talk.
Fuck. Fine WHAT. God forbid a man get the first few hours of sleep he's had in the past few days!
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>>22313813

>[ ] Talk.

If it doesn't take too long.

I have a date to prepare for.
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>>22313813
Talk AFTER a 20 minute nap and we bring Saber with us because fuck walking into a trap, you aren't stupid. If he can't acquiesce to two stupidly simple requests, then that's just rude.
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>>22313813
>[X] Talk.

But it had better not take too long. I'm busy thinking up ways to impress my bisexual bloodsucking soon-to-be girlfriend.
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>>22313917
Also seconding trying to bring an escort into this not trap.
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>>22313813
"Jeeze, He couldn't atleast buy me dinner and wine before I get dragged of to his place?"
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>>22313813
[x] Talk.
"I make no promises to remain concious for the duration."
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>>22313813
Oh hey we're back.
>scans progress
...And I got nothing. Going to say talk, because it's not an everyone lives run if we kill people. Alas poor Sasaki, we hardly knew ye. Faker.
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"I don't suppose we can put this off until I've got some sleep? Maybe grabbed a friend?"

"No. Time is critical, so that we aren't noticed."

"You don't want my friends knowing?"

"There are things far worse than your servants for us here." He responds calmly.

I suppress a shudder. "Fine, but I want your word that no harm come sto me and mine for this."

"Easily. Now take my hand." I hesitate, and then grip it. I feel like I'm being sucked through a garden-hose, and I find myself standing in a warehouse.

"Shirou." A voice greet, and I turn to see Zouken hobble out of the darkness behind a crate. "I'm glad you've taken a moment to speak."

"Oh come on, you're still alive? How?"

"Staying alive is my specialty." He answers calmly. "Listen. The war is spinning out of control worse than anyone realizes. I was hoping to stay out of the conflict, but my hand was forced when someone dropped a burning building on me."

"That would be Archer."

"Indeed. And now he's asked me to arrange a place deserted enough that you could find for a duel."

"Really?"

"Yes. I secured a warehouse. This warehouse, for this afternoon." He says with a wave of an arm. "All for the low, low price of not being hunted like an animal and tortured to death."

"I'm not particularly sympathetic."

"Nor am I apologetic. My reasons for doing as I did are no less valid than your reasons for hating me for it. In a way, I'm glad my Granddaughter is in your care."

"Really now."
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>>22314162

"Yes. If she is of no use to my plans, then she may as well be happy elsewhere. I never did any of what I did to her because of hatred of a petty desire to harm."

[ ] Ask him what he intended to do.
[ ] Ask him why he brought you here.
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>>22314179

>[ ] Ask him what he intended to do.
>[ ] Ask him why he brought you here.
>[x] Why not both
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>>22314179
[X] Ask him what he intended to do.

He probably brought us her to help us kill Archer, nobody likes having buildings dropped on them.
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>>22314179
>[x] Ask him what he intended to do.
>[x] Ask him why he brought you here.
Really? Dropped a burning building on you? How tacky. I was going to blow up the house with you in it.
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>>22314179
[x] Ask him what he intended to do.
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>>22314179
>[ ] Ask him why he brought you here.

Also, I'm particularly curious about the
>"There are things far worse than your servants for us here."
line. Thats REALLY ominous, even by 2spooky4u Assassin standards.
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>>22314179
If we have to pick just one, then why we're here.
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>>22314179
...As curious as Shirou is about Evil Plans To Be Ceased, I imagine Shirou is slightly more concerned currently with saving people.

[x] Ask what's going on.
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>>22314256
Avenger. Gil. As-yet-unnamed Vampire. Maybe!Ciel, which would mean the Church could be made aware of the shitstorm brewing here. That'd be fun.
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>>22314333
well shit i forgot about the last 2.
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"What exactly did you intend to do?" I ask, curious despite myself.

"Secure the grail, use it's power for my own purposes." He responds evenly. "As I swore to do when it was created." He looks me over, before continuing. "I suppose there's no real point in hiding the truth any more. I originally adopted Sakura to try and make for something of a puppet heir. To strengthen the Matou blood again, or even use her to win the war. At the end of the last one, I attempted to collect fragments of the grail to assist in the process."

"What happened?"

"They weren't what I expected them to be. They were pale and lifeless, but then suddenly they took shape and left me behind. I tried to investigate, and resolved myself to playing the long game instead." He shakes his head. "The last war ended... wrong. I was hoping to exploit that fact, but I failed to gather the resources to do so when suddenly it began to reappear." He sighs, and then looks at me. "I didn't see the conclusion of the last war firsthand, but we all felt the aftermath. I suspect that the Grail we fight for now isn't the one I helped create."

A long silence passes between us.

[ ] So why bring me here?
[ ] Is there anything to be done?
[ ] Shall we trade information?
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>>22314333
Well yeah, but his wording implied that this mysterious threat was INSIDE THE GODDAMN HOUSE, or at least watching it closely.
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>>22314361
[X] Is there anything to be done?
[X] Shall we trade information?

These two are not mutually exclusive. He probably doesn't know about the church or Gilgamesh, but what he does know is the previous war. Namely its participants.
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>>22314361
>[ ] So why bring me here?
Thats all interesting, but nothing we've said so far couldn't have been said with a simple phone call. Cut to the chase.
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>>22314361

>[ ] So why bring me here?

Whatever happens we should get him to agree to not persecute that faggot grandson of his.
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>>22314361

Let's figure out why we're here.
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>They were pale and lifeless, but then suddenly they took shape and left me behind.
Wat

>>22314361
>[x] So why bring me here?
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>>22314361
"[x] Shall we trade information?

We want to know everything we can about Avenger. And we want a way to take Archer down. Pity that Enkidu winds up a C-rank NP in our hands, probably won't be able to hold Archer since he's not at all divine.
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>>22314406
This seriously, we don't like him and could be asleep wht the fuck old man you're supposed to be intelligent.
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>>22314361
[x] Shall we trade information?
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"So why bring me here, anyway?"

"I was hoping you could tell me what this Archer's intentions were. He doesn't seem too interested in the Grail, which makes me curious as to his intentions."

"That's pretty easy. He wants to kill me." I respond. "We couldn't do this over the phone?"

"Not without tipping our hand to mutual enemies." He responds calmly. "Besides, this is something of a phone-call. Assassin is Projecting you through a puppet form of his the same way you project weapons. And with his Stealth abilities nobody will ever know this conversation happened besides the three of us." He frowns. "Why does he want to kill you? It seems odd that he would go out of his way to set all this up when he could simply level your home as he did mine."

"Best guess is collateral damage." I respond with a shrug. "I'm the only one he wants dead, so he wants a controlled situation where I'm the only one who could get killed."

"But then, why you?" Zouken asks, tilting his head. "I don't mean tot cause offense, but you're nobody. As far as I can tell, there's nothing significant at all about your life, other than your coincidental presence for various events."

"If you figure it out, let me know." I respond. I feel a small pain behind my eyes.

"Some sort of disturbance back at your home." Zouken comments, eyes closed. "We might be able to manage one more question."

[ ] What's going on?
[ ] What's wrong with the Grail?
[ ] Why should I trust you?
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>>22314583
[x] What's wrong with the Grail?
Everything is all wibbly about this grail war!
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>>22314583
>[ ] What's wrong with the Grail?
If there is a problem with the maguffin that got us into this mess in the first place, it would be best to have as much info as possible.
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>>22314583
Fuck I hate limited choices.

[x] What's wrong with the Grail?
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>>22314583
What will you do once Archer has been dealt with?
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>>22314583
What's wrong with the Grail?
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>>22314583
>[ ] What's wrong with the Grail?

Seems Important.

>Why should I trust you?
>Implying we'll ever trust him, ever.
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>>22314583
[x] What's wrong with the Grail?
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"Alight, sum it up for me as quickly and cleanly as possible: what's wrong with the Grail?"

"There is no quick and clean explanation. It was formed of magic far beyond anything ever attempted by man that we know of. It's a powerful artifact and ritual we can't fully comprehend by it's very nature." He hesitates, and then shakes his head. "The best and nearest guess I can make is that the Grail is growing to achieve sentience."

"That's.... insane." I respond, trying to come up with an appropriate word.

"An artificial god accidentally given life?" Zouken responds with a smile. "quite different and arguably greater than what we intended. Honestly, I'd almost be proud of the development were it not for the sneaking suspicion that this new force isn't benevolent."

"Alright... so what do we do?"

"I have no idea." He responds honestly, with a shrug. "I intend to continue as normal, while investigating. See what comes of this all." He hesitates. "I think our time is at an end. Hopefully there will be a way for us to talk in the future as well."

I feel a sharp snap on my forehead as I turn over in bed. I hear a gentle knock on the door. "Shirou?" Saber's voice comes from beyond the door. "Are you awake?"

[ ] Call her in.
[ ] try to sleep.
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>>22314813
>[ ] Call her in.

Ok, but this is totally the LAST THING before we get some damn sleep.
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>>22314813
We should probably explain what happened, but try and keep it short. We're fucking tired.
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>>22314813

"Nooo, Saber, thats the house,. It's not edible."

/fake nightmare groaning.
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>>22314885

AHAHA.

This will totally get us killed.

Do ittt.
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>>22314813
[x] Call her in.
why can't we
just get some sleep
aaaaa
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>[ ] Call her in.

>Ok, but this is totally the LAST THING before we get some damn sleep.
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>>22314899
I'd rather not have the story end yet
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>>22314885
LOL
3rd vote for this because snark is awesome.
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[x]call her in.
just do it and then we need to sleep.
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>>22314813
"That depends on Whether or not you knocking on my door is a dream"
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I sigh. "Come on in." I say, sitting up.

Saber enters the room quietly, and sits down next to me. "I didn't wake you, did I?"

"No, I hadn't quite managed to fall asleep yet." I respond. "What did you need?"

She hesitates. "I was wondering about our earlier conversations. If you meant what you said."

"Probably, since I tend to be too honest for my own good." I reply. "Not sure what you're talking about specifically though."

"About my rule, about what happened." She clarifies. "I've spent so long agonizing over what I could do differently, how I could change things and fix the damage I caused.... but you don't seem to think any of it matters."

She's more concerned than she lets on, I realize. I wonder when I learned to read her so well. I think maybe it cost her something just to ask this question.

I'll need to handle this carefully.

>?
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>carefully.

with us? aw fuck
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>>22315012
the problem is yes it was important but time tends to make us step back and look at things differently.
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>>22315012

Looks like its time to break out the history books.
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Tell her about the impact she made on Britain, about how as a country they adore her and how well off they are now

Also you can go full romance by saying that if the events played out differently you would of never met her in the first place
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>>22315012
Fall face first onto Saber Lap while mumbling something encouraging and promptly pass out
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>>22315075
>>22315060

Some combination seems possible here.
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>>22315012
"Of course it MATTERS, but you're judging yourself a bit harshly. Hindsight makes errors obvious, true, but what about the successes?
The legend of King Arthur, the Round Table, Merlin and Mordred and so on is one of the most widely spread stories in the world, even if it does get a few details slightly wrong.
But in every single version, retold and rewritten, with additions and changes and outright fabrications, you are a brave, just, and worthy king.
That may very well be the only part that everyone can agree on."
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>>22315130
this. completely and utterly this.
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>>22315012
Do you know the name of your country in this era? Great Britain. There's a hint in the name.

Your efforts are still remembered to this day and your people have since flourished having once owned an empire that spanned most of the world. There was a saying "The sun never sets on the British Empire." This is because it spanned so many countries that it was always sunny in one of them.

What ever mistakes you may have made while important on a personal scale haven't had the country destroying effect you may have feared. So Saber when I say that you shouldn't put yourself on a cross for your mistakes it's because you've already payed for them. Your country did too but they were just as strong as their monarch.
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>>22315012
Social combat? Let's go.

"Did you look yourself up like I suggested? You might feel as if you failed your people, but what do your people's descendants think of you today? I can't speak for them or your subjects, but I know you Saber. I know your kindness and your strength and your nobility. There isn't a country in the world that wouldn't gladly receive you as king, and I refuse to believe that you weren't the absolute best ruler your people could have asked for. If you did fail, then nothing and no one in Earth or Heaven could have prevented it."

Anyone here read Mary Stewart? Awesome novels on the Matter of Britain.
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"Of course it matters." I respond, putting a hand on her shoulder. "But you're judging yourself too harshly. Maybe there are some things you could've done better. I can't say for certain, I wasn't there. But hindsight is something that gets all of us."

"You really think it's that simple?"

"I doubt it is." I respond. "But listen, I know bits and pieces of your legends, and the ones surrounding your kingdom. some details and dates have been mixed and fuddled around, but all of them speak of the courage and wisdom of you and your knights. Do you know what happened to your country after you died? Not in days and weeks, but in years. England grew and expanded politically and culturally so much that the sun never fully set on it, and it's power and reach made Rome look like a bad joke."

She's silent for a long time, looking away. "Thank you." She finally says after a few minutes. "I'm not sure.... I'm still not sure how I feel, but it's nice knowing that you believe in me. That not everything was for nothing."

She stands up to leave, and hesitates in the door like she wants to say something. She apparently thinks better of it, and continues away.

I sigh, and lay back down, wondering and hoping that maybe I got through to her.

I utterly fail to get any sleep for almost an hour.

A bit later, I'm not sure how long, I wake up feeling slightly more rested, and notice that Rider is leaning against the wall in my room, as if waiting.

>?
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>>22315314
>rider leaning on the wall in my room
give her the dick.
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"Ah, much better than Assassin"
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>>22315314
"only Married People are supposed to share a room you know"
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>>22315342
don't actually take my suggestion seriously.
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>>22315314
What am i, a public display now?
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>>22315314
[as though discussing completely mundane events] "Apparently I've got a duel with Archer scheduled for later today, in an abandoned warehouse no less. So, how was your day?"
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>>22315314
"Sup."
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>>22315314
"Hey honey, how was work"

With the biggest shiteating grin we can muster.
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>>22315349
>wait better idea
"Arn't you jumping the gun a bit, I mean we arnt even Married yet"
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Rolled 7

>>22315314
And this makes three Servants visiting me while I'm trying to sleep. Well, at least you aren't Archer.
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>>22315380
I kinda like this one
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>>22315380
>>22315382
Seconding something along these lines.
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"Yeah, that's a lot better than waking up to Assassin." I comment as I sit up. Rider turns to me.

"I may as well be. I've come and gone twice without you waking up."

"I was really tired." I say apologetically. "So how was work?" I ask cheerfully.

"I managed to track down Archer. Kind of." She says, looking at me. "I found the general area he was in, and he gave me a warning shot with a note. Apparently he wants to challenge you to a duel, with Rin as incentive to arrive."

"And he's got a nice warehouse down at the docks arranged for some privacy." I respond. "On the bright-side, I'm fairly certain he won't kill Rin. As long as we put in an appearance he'll let her go."

"You're sure?"

"I don't think he'd break a promise like that." I respond, not voicing my suspicions. "I guess I need to start mentally preparing for that."

"Yes." rider says, then she hesitates. "Wait, how did you know all that, anyway?"

"Assassin molested me while you were gone and Zouken told me he was the one forced to arrange the meeting place."

"Assassin was here?!" She asks startled. "I thought you were just...."

"Being a snarky jerk?" I respond. "That's mostly when I'm either tired or in pain. zouken had some other things to say too, but I'd rather wait for everyone to get together before I get into that."

Rider nods, and then looks away. "Alright then. Anything else I should be aware of?"
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>>22315607

[ ] I suspect Shinji's working with avenger.
[ ] I think Caster and her Master are a thing.
[ ] Saber's been Philosophical lately.
[ ] I know who Berserker is.
[ ] You might have eaten my soul. Just a little.
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>>22315615
Dammit, they're all so important. I wanna say the last one, but we can't do everything for the lulz... right?
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>>22315607
"My Soul might be missing, I cant help but feel you might have done that so are you going to take responsibility for your actions?"
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>>22315615
>[X] I think Caster and her Master are a thing.
For we are Captain Obvious!
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>>22315615

[ ] You might have eaten my soul. Just a little.

Don't see why shirou needs to mention berserker and caster+souchirou is as clear as day.
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>>22315615
just start having him go down the list of crap to talk about because theres a hell of alot of it.
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>>22315615

[x] There is no fucking way Archer will get what he wants from me. On principle. He tried to fuck with me, so I will fuck him over now, too. With a bit of assistence of my new friend Berserker, hopefully..


Seriously, fuck Archer. He won`t get what he wants purely out of spite and for helping Avenger. We`ll use Berserker to pose as Emiya Shirou and fight him while we rescue Rin and ride off to the Sunset.. or something.

No more Mr. Nice Guy, time to pull a Kiritsugu.
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>>22315607
>[ ] You might have eaten my soul. Just a little.

Why not.
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>>22315615

[ ] You might have eaten my soul. Just a little.

2 is obvious.
3 not needed unless we want to kill berserker.
4 privacy. Saber won't like it if we spill everything.
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>>22315615
>[ ] You might have eaten my soul. Just a little.

"My soul seems to have gotten lost, and my knowledge of cheesy vampire fiction tells me that the whole blood-drinking bit is the most likely culprit. At least, I can't think of anything else. You wouldn't happen to know anything about that, would you?"
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>>22315615
[x] You might have eaten my soul. Just a little.
Not a bro move to go blabbing about Cain.
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>>22315661
If we're going for the soul option, i like this one the best
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Everything's fine cept berserker and airing saber's unmentionables for all to see.
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>>22315727
Seconding this. We need to make sure not to offend her here, in the even she either isn't to blame or actually had a good reason.

Oh and even though i think we should save it for later, >>22315693 is YES. Fuck Archer, we usually try to play nice, but this time the gloves are off.
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>>22315693
ALL OF MY YES. That is plain delicous. Bonus points if we save Rin and then wave t him while he's fighting 'us'.
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>>22315693
>>22315776
We're assuming Cain can take Shirou's form, which means we're assuming Shirou will become a Heroic Spirit.
And travel back in time.
Which he will, of course, do. But he doesn't know that.
Yet.
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>>22315693
and then archer still somehow like always gets his ass handed to him

this is delicious.
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>>22315854
Yeah, we're at that annoying point where Shirou has figured it out, but its buried in his subconscious because his brain is going OH NO PARADOX OHMAHGERD.
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>>22315854
>implying shirou doesn't realize by now that archer is shirou.
you do realize he has already noticed serious signs of this right?
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"You may have eaten my soul. Just a little."

For a full three seconds, Rider stares at me blankly. A feat made more impressive by her Blindfold. "Wait, what?"

"My soul may or may not be missing, and it rendered me unable to renew my contract with Saber. I haven't exactly clued anyone else in yet, but the only thing I could think of that might have, you know impacted me in a soul-ish way would be when you started sucking my blood."

Rider looks at me visibly flustered. "What? No, I didn't-" she shakes her head. "That's impossible. you can't not have a soul. If you didn't have a soul, you would be dead."

"Really? What about demons and such?"

"Demons, spirits, angels, and various forms of Phage, beings born of desire, have souls. They aren't HUMAN souls maybe, but they're there." She responds.

"Huh. Well that's almost disappointing. I thought I solved the mystery."

"Sorry, but all I got out of your blood was a small amount of prana."

"Really? You ate my magic?"

"Magic is literally in your blood. I was pulling some out hoping to find any poison and bring it with."

"So you could eat people and get mana?"

"Yes. Technically, that's what Shinji was trying to do at the School and the mall, remember?"

"I didn't really know the details." I respond. "So you could eat souls, but you didn't eat mine."

"Yes." She responds, thinking. We should talk to the others about your meeting with Zouken."

[ ] Alright.
[ ] First.... (Pick topic from prior list).
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"speaking of Shitji..."
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>>22315935
[x] First....
- [x] I suspect Shinji's working with avenger.
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>>22315935
[X] First.... (Pick topic from prior list).

[X] I think Caster and her Master are a thing.
"I know they're a thing, I know that they care for each other. But we need to get them to admit it, we need to get them to declare their love to the world. Will you help me in this Rider? Will you follow me through all of the shenanigans and cliched romantic comedy situations that occur from this?

We can even be the couple that isn't together and through their efforts to hook two people up end up falling in love, assuming you're interested in that."
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>>22315879
>>22315854
>>22315864
>we're at that annoying point where Shirou has figured it out,

That may be so, but our Shirou is still a bit different from the original one and we don`t have to follow the VN by giving HS Emiya the satisfaction of fighting us.
I know all the people seem to like HS Emiya but really, I always failed to see something likable about him.
>A BLOO BLOO BLOO GAIA FUCKED ME OVER ON ME WANTING TO BE A HERO AND NOW I AM A MULTIDIMENSIONAL JANITOR AND THIS IS SOMEHOW MY YOUNGER ME`S FAULT SWOOOOOOORDING IN MY SKIN THESE SWORDS THEY WILL NOT HEAAAALL!

Just fuck him.
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>>22315935
"Awwww Can't I enjoy my bed a little bit longer before I have to Fight the Arch-Dick?"
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>>22315987
+1

This amuses me greatly
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>>22315935
>[ ] First.... I think Caster and her Master are a thing.

Throwing in another vote for >>22315987
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[X] I suspect Shinji's working with avenger.
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>>22315987
And then at the end, after everyone got saved and we have the THE GREATEST HAREM THERE EVAR WAS we will confess to a horde of lovestruck girls that we are, in fact, as gay as pink ink and have thing for Issei.

Just thinking about their terrified expressions when realization kicks in makes me moist!
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>>22316086
Sounds glourious
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gonna be serious for a sec

>[ ] I suspect Shinji's working with avenger.
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>>22316086
>>22316106
>>22316150
And then Rider mana-drains us to death in our sleep, because I get the feeling she'll take rejection about as well as Sakura once we get her hopes up, but she's also a capable of killing us in about twenty horrible ways.

We've boarded the train, and there are no stops.
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>>22315935
[ ] First.... (Pick topic from prior list).
[ ] I think Caster and her Master are a thing.

Its only relevant in the sense that it involves a Servant, a human, and furious fucking/loving relationships, so thats good enough for me.
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>>22316182
Naw, Rider would just take Isseis form in our dreams. That or start making us dream of sexing the girls until we think we like it.
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>>22316214
>making us dream of sexing the girls until we think we like it.

But we DO like it...right? RIGHT? naw, I trust you guys enough to know that you won't pull a LOL SUDDENLY GAY, HAHA SO FAHNY
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>>22316214

It still boggles my mind that there was no "I think I was dreamraped by your servant, Sakura" -Dialogueoption in Heavens Feel.
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"First, I think you should be made aware of something."

"Yes?"

"I'm fairly certain Caster's in love with her Master. It might be mutual too, but I'm not sure about that since he's been unconscious the entire time I've been gossiping."

"Alright, and this affects us... how?"

"I don't know honestly. We might very well end up tossing this whole 'Grail War' thing out the window at this rate, I figured I would mitigate damage ahead of time."

"Oh really?" Rider asks, curious as to where I'm going with this.

"Yeah. If figure that if I survive the war, it'll be because I've been running around acting even more dashing and Heroic than before. I already have... what's the score, four women pining for me?"

"Six by my count."

"Good lord, really? Well then my point only becomes more valid. I need to start hooking up the fringe cases with other people before I'm literally crushed under a pile of attractive women."

"So you want to play matchmaker for caster and her Master?"

"Sure. After they get hitched maybe we can work on Taiga."

"Really now." Rider asks, clearly amused.

"Rin can't teach me magic, Saber can't help me spar, and I've been exiled from my own kitchen. I need a hobby."

"As much as I like the idea of you getting everyone laid out of boredom.... how much of this is altruism, and how much of it is you putting off your own relationship drama?"

".... You can't prove anything."
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>>22316255

Rider smiles, shaking her head. "Be careful about ringing wedding bells, the women in your life might take it as a signal to move in on you. Is that a risk you're prepared to take?"

".... Not sure. I'm kinda hesitant to actually start anything with anybody, because I'm not sure I'll survive the war. I'd hate for someone to fall just for me to get killed off."

"So you've been putting it off until after the war." She sighs. "Meanwhile, everyone assumes nobody else has laid claim to you yet and sharks are circling."

"Well thanks for that mental image. It's not like it wasn't already keeping me up at night."

Rider shakes her head. "Sorry."

>Anything else? Or are you ready to move on?
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>>22316257
We should go, the Sharks are waiting for their prey after all
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>>22316257
Mentioning Shinji seemed to be a close second. Lets go with that.

Although despite my unending hate-boner for Shinji, I get the feeling that him teeming up with Avenger was a legitimate dun-goofed on his part, so until we know hes gone back to full-retard evil lets hold off on the murder-kill.
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on second thought, let's not go to Fate/Stay Again tis a silly place
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>>22316255
>>22316257
>6 women want shirou
sakura, rin, saber, illya, taiga and i'm missing one, is rider counted in that pile of people?
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>>22316257
Shinji, Avenger, etc.
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>>22316278
Rin, Sakura, Saber, Illya, Rider, and Sakura.
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>>22316278
Drop Ilya for Ayako, maybe? Ilya seems locked in as the Imouto.
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>>22316278

Not sure about Taiga but Ayako, probably.
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>>22316288
heh
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>>22316278
Ayako would make 6, although Ilya could be safely disqualified since we formalized our brother-sister relationship earlier today, but Rider might not be privy to that info.

But yes, as far as we're concerned Rider is counted.

Speaking of which, here is my proposal for balancing Shirou's Fuck-Budget

Shirou's Harem: Rider and Sakura (because Rider specified that she would, in fact, tap that)

Rin's Harem: Saber and Ayako

Wildcard: Taiga
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>>22316305
Rider wants Ayako as well
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>>22316257
"I can worry about making my harem later. I'm afraid it's the only option I can take without ending up with a pile of angry unhappy women.

Can't think of anything else important, except Shinji might have teamed up with Avenger, that's important."
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>>22316305
ooo, Ilya and taiga. The Odd Couple could work
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>>22316292
Aw hell, I just remembered. Speaking of imouto, the real reason that Illya can't be Shirou's lover? Her body has a hard-coded expiration date. If she isn't subsumed into the grail, she dies at most a year after the end of the war. Not something we can act on just yet, but we might start asking questions about the Grail ritual itself.
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>>22316312
DAMN!

Ok, add Ayako to our side, Rin gets a loving monogamous relationship with Saber. Unless Saber manages to find her dominant side and wrangles herself a Gilgamesh before we're forced to kill him.
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>>22316305

I like how you think we have any real control over this.

I think how this will end, no matter who ends up with who, Shirou is going to be told which and how many hot girls he gets to fuck.

I'm pretty sure he flat out said it in one of the early threads 'I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be me owning a harem, it would be them dividing up a timeshare."

>>22316322

Actually, I think the reason Ilya ruled herself out probably amounts more to the fact that she looks like a child.

Before the whole loli-themed shit-storm begins again, I'm not saying that's what happened, just that it wouldn't surprise me.
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>>22316335
> wrangles herself a Gilgamesh
I find this highly amusing for some reason
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Oh hey second day in a row I've been in time for this quest
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>>22316322
Which is why after the Grail War (or in an epilogue), we search for Touko Aozaki to make Ilya a new body.
We're certainly not doing so during the war, we have more than enough going on now. Plus, there's no guarantee that Ilya will survive...
>>22316335
Don't forget Taiga and Lancer.
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>>22316335
>Unless Saber manages to find her dominant side and wrangles herself a Gilgamesh

Speaking of such, we should give that topic a serious think. After all, the biggest known conflict we have with Gil right now is that he's running around all rapey (since he's evidently not allied with Kirei this time around, so who the fuck knows what his deal is outside of MUST FUCK SEIBA). Aside from that, he's seemed relatively bro thus far.
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>Rider takes fun joke to surprisingly dark, vulnerable place for Shirou.
>AC-Guy posts what do.
>/tg/ ignores it in a favor of picking out their shopping list of ladies.

Wasn't it revealed early on that it wasn't in our direct control, it was more about flags and hidden relationship points?
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>>22316398

>Let'em dream. the longer they bicker, the more Far Cry I get to sneak in waiting for a consensus.

>Also fun fact: Shirou has his own flags and triggers, some romantic. Many of them aren't.
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Taiga and Lancer actually seems like a good couple.
Saber and Gilgamesh sounds very dangerous, but it might work.
Rider and Sakura for us? I'm personally against polygamous relationships.
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>>22316420

Well we did say we should go to the sharks.

Right now we're just debate which shark eats what part of shirou
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Do tell...

>FWIW I toss my vote in for commiserating on Shinji throwing in with Avenger.
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Taiga and Lancer eh? I could dig it. Though I guess mention Shinji and then get that show on the road. By that I mean ask Berserker if he could double for us while we rescue Rin.
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>>22316420
I think the loose consensus was mention Shinji/Avenger, then move on.
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>>22316422
>Taiga and Lancer
Yes.
>Saber and Gilgamesh
They duel daily to determine who wears the pants. 'Very dangerous' is an understatement.
>Rider and Sakura for us?
Probably be more polyamory than polygamy, but whatever. Also, throw Rin in there somewhere.
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>>22316544
Archer X Rin would be hilarious.
Then again, we wouldn't be able to keep him alive, would we?
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I stand up, grabbing some clean clothes out of my dresser while talking to Rider. "Also, I suspect Shinji's thrown his lot in with Avenger."

"Doesn't surprise me, if true." Rider comments. "I wouldn't be surprised if he's the only one incapable of seeing how it might go badly."

"Yeah. I'm hoping he sees the light before it's too late." I respond, setting the cloths down and looking at Rider. ".... do you mind?"

"Not at all." she responds, unmoving.

"Rider...."

"What do you want some help?"

"No, I was kinda hoping you'd leave the room."

"Oh yeah, because I'm loving the view." She chides, gesturing to her blindfold.

"It's the principle of the matter."

"You've managed to accidentally build yourself a Harem and you're a prude?" She snickers. "If you're that ashamed of what you've got, it might be best not to get our hopes up."

I completely fail to formulate a response as she leaves the room laughing. I get dressed quickly in the off chance she decided to send Saber in to wake me during, and then go to the living room. Everyone, including Taiga is waiting. I suppose there's no point in hiding it any further anyway, but it's still odd seeing her at the meeting.

I give them a brief version of my conversation with Zouken, and about Archer's challenge. "Apparently, we're just waiting for the actual call to tell us he's ready."

"What's the plan there then?"

"Go in, beat archer, save Rin." I respond.
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>>22316590
Well anything is possible I suppose, but I get the feeling that Archer is going to be one of the hardest to save considering his only goal is murdering us, and that is rather incompatible with our own survival.
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>>22316609

Saber, Caster, and Sakura all give me a shocked look. Rider merely shakes her head.

I do get some unexpected support from Lancer. "I like it!" He says, patting me on the back. "Hard to screw up a simple plan like that."

"Alright, but what if Archer starts to win against you?" Caster asks.

"He won't." I respond. "I can't let him win, so I won't."

"And that's the right attitude too." Lancer nods approvingly. "Let your enemies decide how to defeat you. You should be focused on how to defeat them."

"Shouldn't there be a contingency plan or something?" Sakura says. "Just in case something unexpected happens?"

"I don't get what you mean." I answer.

"I mean, what if someone comes in and takes Rin while you're fighting?"

"I have Rider and Lancer with me. They're going to grab Rin and get her out while I'm fighting Archer."

Lancer freezes mid-laugh. "Wait, what? You're going to fight him alone?"

"Of course. His condition for letting Rin go was for me to face him alone. I can't risk him having an exit plan for if we all dog-pile on him."

Lancer hesitates, and then nods somberly. "If rescuing Rin is our number one priority going into this, then that makes the most sense. Is that the plan?"

"Why wouldn't it be?" I ask.

Sakura shoots me a concerned look, but holds her tongue. Taiga seems... shocked, for some reason. Lancer gives me a nod, knowing and respectful. Caster seems completely baffled by my plan, and Saber and Rider are both eyeing me like I've gone mad.
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>>22316590
We might. We just need Rin to convince him after he sees that we're not obsessively saving people and we won't end up like him.
>Everybody Lives route
Er... this might be much more difficult than I first thought...
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>>22316617

>Actions?
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>>22316620
Remind Saber and Rider that this is the guy who, in the space of like an hour, managed to kill Assassin, destroy the Matou house, then barge into the Church and steal Rin from under our collective noses. If we don't go head to head with him like he wants, he might just blow the whole building to smithereens before we can rescue Rin.

Also, he's been without a Master for the better part of a day, even with Independent Action he must be running low on magic power. If nothing else, we hold him off until the others secure Rin, THEN dogpile him.
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>>22316620
Call Illya, ask her if Berserker can bait the gold Archer (can we just call him Goldilocks?) over to the warehouse after we've evacuated Rin. Inform her that taking either our form or Assassin's will be enough for him to give chase. He might also chase himself, as well as anyone thanking him for a nice motorbike.
Getting the timing right will be a bitch, though.
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>>22316620
...Well I suppose I could call in a favour with a shapeshifter but that seems needlessly complicated when I could just punch Archer in the face myself.
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"Why are you guys staring at me like that? It's pretty concise plan so it shouldn't be that confusing."
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>>22316654
Why would we do that? That seems like a phenomenally bad idea when we've got more than enough muscle on hand to take down Archer once Rin is in the clear. Adding Gil to the mix would just end in an unnecessary fight.
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>>22316654
We've been calling Gilgamesh KinKaiser since thread 4 or so, so go ahead and call him that instead.
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>>22316664
It means that we aren't going the "let's die for everyone" route.
It proves that we actually cling to our life.
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>>22316657
This
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>>22316654
>>22316655
I like both of these.
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>>22316671
I meant in-character.
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>>22316673
Nowhy add Gil? Wy ot just et ssassi to replae us?
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>>22316657

Should add that we have our own personal reasons to face against him and refuse to elaborate.
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>>22316673
Its only "let's die for everyone" if we actually expect to take him down ourselves. As things stand now, once the rest of the gang rescues Rin we can either disengage or gangbang the fucker with 4 Servants. Its a pretty significant difference.

Plus if he assumes we ARE doing a "let's die for everyone", then he won't expect us to suddenly get 4 servants worth of backup halfway through the fight.
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>>22316686
Fucking key board. Why add Gil to the mix? Why not just get Assassin to replace us?
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>>22316620
> Actions

[x] Ask Berserker if he would be able to pose as you.
- If the answer is yes, we go full Kiritsugu and by that I mean:

- While Archer is busy with Berserker-Shirou the real Shirou will infiltrate the building looking for Rin.
- Since he is a shitty mage and no Servant his magical presence is like.. none, as established earlier in the Quest, to other servants are able to FEEL their magical presence, thats why saving Rin with a Servant is risky, since Archer and possible allies will be alarmed
- Lancer and Rider standby on Rider`s Magical Mount with a cellphone.
- Once we fished Rin out ot the building we contact Rider/Lancer and they swoop in together to finish off Archer, three Servants against him should do the trick
- Meanwhile Saber stays at home with Taiga, Ilya and Caster to ensure that they are covered should someone attack the house.

This gives us a satisfaction of actually doing things - stealthy
- in our favour
- and showing Archer the finger
- Making Dad proud
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>>22316714
Gotta agree with this. But if Berserker can't pull it off, who do we use for rescue duty instead?

Someone has to tank Archer, and someone who Archer won't sense has to rescue Rin. If Zerks can't impersonate us, our suitable personnel roster is a bit short.
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>>22316729
It sure would help if we had someone who couldn't use magic with us. Oh wait.
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>>22316729
>>22316714

Ilya and berserker went home.

They're not here.
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>>22316747
We have her phone number, don't we?

>>22316740
Oh god you're right. Taiga special forces squad...go?
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FUCK YEAH.
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Alternativly we can:

[x] Ask Berserker to switch into Saber

Then we:

- Sent in Saber to meet HS Emiya
- Contact Shounenshit-Villian
- Tell him that the other Archer was the one who kidnapped her and because he wants to bonk her
- Berserker acts all weak as Saber and pretends that HS Emiya did THINGS to her when Shounenshit-Villian arrives
- Shirou sneaks in and frees Rin while SHIT HITS THE FAN
- Rider stands by on Pegasus for a quick extraction
- Rest of the Servants do nothing
- we ride off into the Sunset with Rin
- Dad is Proud
- Everyone is save.
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>>22316769
>- Berserker acts all weak as Saber and pretends that HS Emiya did THINGS to her when Shounenshit-Villian arrives
Kinkaiser is funny, but not retarded.
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"Why are you all staring at me like that? It's a pretty concise plan so it shouldn't be that confusing."

"Oh really? What part of your concise plan involves you getting killed?"

"... None of it? I don't have to win, just not die until Rin is safe."

"Alright, then what?"

"If I seriously might lose? We're going to have two other Servants on the ground." I respond. "Lancer's ability is a guaranteed kill if he shoots it off and the enemy is at all unprepared."

"... So why not do that to start with?"

"Because Archer managed to effectively neutralize four servants in as many seconds back at the church. Because of the way he planned things, he managed to almost succeed in his goal, and succeed in all of his secondary goals. This was with a plan he devised in moments, and was working with what he had on him. He's now had time to prepare. Who knows what sort of contingency plans he might have in place. He could very well be prepared to take out every servant in the war if we just kicked in his door."

"And your plan around that is?"

"Give him exactly what he wants. He wants me to face him in open combat, alone. We serve me up on a platter, he won't have any reason to hold Rin. He'll probably just hand her over."

"You can't possibly know that." Saber states, disbelievingly.

"I can actually. I'm actually completely certain that I'm right."

Saber stares at me, as though trying to figure out what I know.

Everyone else seems convinced, if unenthusiastic.
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>>22316808

The doorbell and the phone both ring.

[ ] Get Door.
[ ] Get Phone.
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>>22316801
Indeed. He is smart enough to realize that HS Emiya wouldn't be able to overpower her to that degree without leveling half the city in the process.

The original bait-and-switch Berserker plan is pretty good though.
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>>22316714
>>22316769
The biggest problem that I have with this plan is that it's a complete 180 from what Shirou first suggested.
The biggest problem Berserker is going to have with the plan is... well
>The Father of Madness: EX
>Cain is capable of assuming the form and memories of anyone who could qualify for the class of Berserker.
I don't think Arturia or Emiya qualify for that class.
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>>22316811
Ask someone to get the phone and ask if they'll hold while we check the door.
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>>22316811
[x] Get Door.
Phone will be Archer. Let it ring out, just to annoy him.
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>>22316817
>I don't think Arturia or Emiya qualify for that class.
Wasn't there a route where he went mad due to getting a new arm attached?
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>>22316811
Get phone, while answering that, go over and open the door...
Time for mass confusion.
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>>22316801
>Kinkaiser is funny, but not retarded.
Sheesh. You are so inflexible.

We can also tell PRETEND-Saber to troll Goldi-Archer by saying that he really wants to have us, he should better prove himself of being worthy of us by defeating that other Archer.
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>>22316811
>Door

Get door with Saber in tow, just in case

Have Taiga or Sakura get the phone.
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>>22316827
Yup HF his mind broke completely until there wasn't anything remotely human or living left.
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>>22316827
Saber, probably not, but Shirou definitely.
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>>22316811
Get the door
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>>22316823
This
>>22316827
He didn't go mad in the Heaven's Feel Route, Shirou just slowly lost everything. There was barely anything left of him mentally to go mad by the end.
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>>22316827
Yes but there is no guarantee that would allow him to copy HS Emiya (I doubt it, since the HF route shouldn't produce HS Emiya, thus he never went mad), and OUR Emiya certainly hasn't gone through that. Multiple timeline shenanigans are confusing.
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>>22316853
>There was barely anything left of him mentally to go mad by the end.
Are we now discussing the semantics of madness?

>>22316857
Archer himself is from a *potential* timeline. I don't think it matters if it happened in our timeline.
...Wait, wouldn't that mean we'd get Berserker transform into a Shirou with Archer arm?
I want to test that plan. Just to see Shirou's reaction.
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>>22316811

I'd have Taiga go for the door, but just in case, get Saber to do it, while we answer the phone.
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>>22316811

Yay, double distractions/

>[x] Door
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If I remember correctly didn`t Arturia herself tell Shirou when explaining the classes that she could have been also summoned as Rider or Berserker.

You could probably count the time in her Legend where she got a Dick merlin`d and bonked her Sister and then had to wage a war against her son as being susceptible for the MAD requirement.
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>>22316714
>>22316769
>>22316836
>>22316893
Your avatar makes me uneasy...
But I like your ideas.
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>>22316893
Can you ease off the avatarfaggotry please?
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>>22316904
..Does this one put you at ease instead?

And of course. Bob always has the best ideas.
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>>22316893

How, I wonder what Berserker Arturia would look like.

Kirei is going to somehow become the villain. Like how he did in HF.

"I will let this thing be born and I will BLESS it!"
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>>22316906
B-B-But mah identity when posting...
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I get the door, while Taiga gets the phone for me. I open the door, and am genuinely surprised to see Ayako there.

"Hey. What's... what's up?" I ask weakly, trying to devise a way to get rid of her or warn everyone that she's here.

"Taiga called in to say she was staying out because you had a relapse." She explains. "Archery club was canceled, so I got my Mother's permission to skip out early and check in on you."

"Well I appreciate the concern." I tell her honestly. "But I'm already feeling a lot better."

"But are you really? Or do you keep having issues because you won't hold still long enough to heal?" She accuses, poking me in the shoulder. The shoulder still recovering from a knife wound and Rider's... affections. I fail to suppress a wince. "Ah HA!" She declares victorious. "Clearly whoever's been telling you to take it easy hasn't been strict enough."

"Uh-"

"I'll make sure you get your proper rest if I have to tie you to your bed." She states viciously. "Now go back inside, I'll cook you lunch." She says, and begins marching into my house.

I get back to the living room, and am immediately thankful that the various servants had the sense to hide. Taiga hesitates when she sees Ayako, and gestures to the phone. "It's that call you were expecting." She tells me, while Mitsuzuri sets up in the kitchen like she's declaring war on my independence.

Saber and Sakura merely watch the procession with great confusion.

>What do?
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>>22316865
I worded my comment poorly, but in HF Shirou struck me of acting more like a robot or an empty shell rather than a Berserker.
>>22316893
I remember Saber saying she could have been summoned as a Rider class Servant, but a Berserker too? Do you know what part in the VN she said that? I know it had to be early on in the fate route, but now I'm curious and want to check myself.
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What is fate stay/night like compared to fate zero
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>>22316945
Fate/Zero is fun during the first half and half of the second one.
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>>22316940
Answer the phone I suppose.

Somehow, I think that Ayako isn't going to be happy with our idea of marching off to a duel with a powerful supernatural warrior. But we don't want to just blow her off. Ideas? I got nothin.
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>>22316929
I think Black Saber was pretty close.

I mean, see how Lancelot looked like a Berserker and then compare it with this. It`s not that far off.
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>>22316940
"Why is everyone intent on stealing my kitchen from me? I like cooking, but you all act like it is something I shouldn't do for my own good."

Then answer the phone, get information and time of the battle, and snark.
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>>22316940
Uh. Okay. Take the phone call I guess?
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>>22316944
Not sure. It could have been in any of the three routes when Saber explains Shirou the basics about Servants, Heroic Spirits and Servant classes.
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>>22316940

I'm just waiting for the coin to drop for sakura regarding ayako.

And for rider to turn up licking her lips.
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>>22316963
Here`s the Berserker-Lancelot from the novel.
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>>22316940

I suppose we just better roll with it for now also take the call
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>>22316940
Answer phone, acquire necessary information. Then inform Archer that we're flattered by how Yandere he is for us, but its FORBIDDEN LOVE.
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>>22316940
Ask if Sakura would like to help Ayako make lunch while we take the phone into another room. After talking to Archer exit out the window or other outside door and wait for Rider and Lancer to follow you.
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>>22316940

Inb4 Issei ALSO dropping by to find out what was last night about.
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>>22317008
>>22317018
Both good ideas. Although sneaking out the window will be a bit derpy if the duel isn't for another several hours.

I have a feeling Ayako would be sorely offended if we ran off for like five hours. So depending on our timetable we should try for a more delicate approach.
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>>22317033
Issei already knows, its Wizard shit. Hopefully we got across the "don't go out of your way to fuck with wizard shit" message.
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>>22317055

He knows its wizard shit.

He'll still want to know whats up and if it has anything to do with Souchirou-sensei and his fiancée disappearing.
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I sigh, already feeling the beginning of a headache. "Emiya."

"Good. I'll make this simple and easy for you." Archer's voice informs me over the line. "There's a few warehouses on the riverside, north of the Bridge. You know them?"

"Yes."

"I'll be waiting for you in the one on the southern unit, right on the River." He tells me. "I'll only wait for the next hour before your arrival, and then I'll assume that you've either chickened out or are planning some elaborate way around whatever elaborate plans I may have in place."

"If I don't make it in time?"

"You lose your shot at saving Rin." He informs me, and his voice seems to take on an almost mocking quality. "You do want to be the hero, right?"

"How about we see how smug you act when I hand you your ass." I respond evenly. "Quarter to two now. I'll be there by two thirty."

"You better. Rin's been spending a lot of time crying about how you wouldn't be able to save her."

The call ends abruptly, and I return to the kitchen. taiga is attempting, and failing to talk Ayako out of showing so much concern. Failing so hard that Ayako is now looking between the occupants of the room with a measure of suspicion. Her eyes eventually settle on saber, and her expression seems troubled for a moment, before she turns away, lost in thought.

>Actions?
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>>22317105

Sighhhhh.

[ ] Hurt Ayako
[ ] Induct Ayako
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>>22317105
Motion to Taiga to subdue Ayako, then we bugger off. We can memory wipe the both of them when we get back with Rin.
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>>22317119
Wee bit late for that on the Taiga front I think. At this point it would just be downright rude.
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>>22317105

...I can't think of any way of telling Ayako that Rin got kidnapped without it leading to a reasonable explanation as to why the police can't do anything.

And if we just up and leave, that'll hurt and probably shut off her route as well.

I say we tell her, trace a knife for her as proof.
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>>22317105
See if Rider can knock someone out without hurting them.
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>>22317174
>I say we tell her, trace a knife for her as proof.
Yeah and then Kirei tries to take us out for spreading the word. We can't tell about magic any time it comes up.
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>>22317146
Why? They won't remember a thing, and thus won't be at any more risk.
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Check with Issei to make sure that Goldie didn't obliterate the temple in a fit of rage last night.

If he answers our call, get a plan going on that involves student council duties or whatever.

Tell Ayako that we still owe Issei a bit of a favor regarding student council stuff, and ask if she can help on our behalf just for today.

Let's keep the relatively uninitiated in magic out of harms way for now. And if Issei asks about Souichirou-sensei, just tell him he's fine.
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>>22317105
"Terribly sorry about this, magic is real, Rin is kidnapped, and I'm the only dude bad enough to save her. *trace sword* Sorry about skipping dinner, stay here with Taiga, I'll brb. I promise I'll explain everything when I get back with Rin. Now then.

FOR JUSTICE! AND HONOUR!"
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>>22317105
Use the shinai!
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>>22317105
"I h-have to, uh, um, well, y-you see....IVE-GOTTA-GO-DO-SOMETHING"

Yes, we're pretending that we are both cripplingly shy around women we like, and thus by extension that we have a crush on Ayako. This will in no way backfire on us later. But for the moment would explain away our suspicious behavior as crippling social anxiety.
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>>22317213

I just don't see how that'll hold up since she'll probably insist on following him to school.

Likely it'll lead to a situation where she trails shirou to the docks.
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>>22317276
To clarify: we're only pretending about the being shy part. The jury is still out on whether the rest of the act is true or not.
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>>22317267
Fuck. That's too awesome not to use.
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>>22317267

Do it.
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>>22317117

>[x] Hurt Ayako

We will just have to ditch her.
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>>22317267
Shock and Awe. I like it. Probably going to have terrible consequences later, but its not like we aren't informing the muggles left and right anyway.
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>>22317267

Bisonyesss.jpg
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>brb, switching computers.
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>>22317267

Don't forget to get our jacket and/or hat. Also, don't we have a handgun or something we can use?
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>>22317440

I think bringing the handgun to what will obviously be a swordfight when we can do broken phantasms will be abit unjustifiable.
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>>22317452
Bring a chair!
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>>22317456
We should seriously do this, it'll be our ultimate weapon
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"Uh, Ayako? I hate to disappoint you, but i have something of an errand to run."

"It can wait." She responds calmly, mixing something in a bowl.

"Actually, it can't."

"Then send Taiga to do it." she says, giving me a level stare. "And don't say it can only be you who goes."

"That's then thing...." I begin and she just glares.

"Alright, I want to hear what's so important that it can't wait and can't be handled by anyone else." she folds her arms and fixes me with a level glare.

"Uh, well you see... Fuck it, I'm not going to lie to you. Rin's been kidnapped and if I don't make it to the specified location in...." I shoot a quick glance at the clock. "...56 minutes, she's as good as dead. While I appreciate your concern, I'm doing fine health-wise despite my best efforts, and I need to be in a bit of a rush."

Whatever Ayako expected me to say, it wasn't that. Her eyes widen and she opens her mouth to say something, when she looks back over to Saber and I can almost hear it when something CLICKS in her mind. She grabs the sides of her head like shes in pain, but that quickly gives way to confusion as one hand rubs along where Rider had her with her chain.

She looks at me, shaky, and tears beginning to form. "... what? Shinji... he..."

It's painful, but all I can do for her right now is give her a hug and leave her with Taiga. I force as much energy into my legs as I can without ripping them apart, and I go straight for the warehouse.

>And that's a thread.
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>>22317518

Baka shirou...
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>>22317470
Screw UBW.
"I am the bone of This Chair..."
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>>22317518
>>22317518
>Have a great plan that involves much trolling and shennanigas and minimal risks for everyone involved
>Throw it out of the window to jump into the fray

Yep. That`s Shirou.
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This cliffhanger is an eyesore.

This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger. This cliffhanger.
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>>22317518
Oh
Oh hey
Rin's memory wipe stopped working
This'll be FUN
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>>22317518
What happened to our awesome plans?

Fuck you.


Anyway, always keep the chair as our trump card.
And if that doesn't work, there's always the iron throne.
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>>22317660

>Awesome plans? Are you referring to the ones that were completely impossible, or the ones you're still doing?

>All that was was Shirou making a hard exit, because that's what was voted for.
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>>22317709

Did we break Ayako? ;_;
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>>22317723

>More shell-shocked than legitimate lasting psychological harm. She had a rug yanked out from under her, so she'll definitely need a little bit of time to recover.
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>>22317747

Good to know.

Especially since shirou is gonna come back through the door with a number of holes in him and covered in blood.
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>>22317709
Are Lancer and Rider following us at least?
I mean, Shirou did tell everyone that he was going to take Rider and Lancer with them so they could save Rin while he fought Archer.
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>>22317747

Any idea when next thread'll be?



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