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Man, I still haven't managed to get a good play of this.

Goes to the pile of "cool shit I need to play v.2"

YES!

Thank you LawfulNice! Your works have brought such enjoyment to me and my friends.

Holy shit, I thought you fell off the face of the earth, LN. Downloading right now.

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Haha, time dor Dungeons: the Dragoning!

YES

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

THANK YOU, YOU GLORIOUS BASTARD

Quick notice:

The calculation for resilience isn't on the bottom of the character sheet like all the other derived stats.

I LOVE THIS TIME OF YEAR!

THANK YOU MAN!

SOMEONE UPDATE THE 1D4CHAN PAGE!

It fixes all the problems I didn't have and didn't fix the problems I did, but cool all the same. Any word on how long until the next version, and if that will fix Prometheans, Chosen, Daemonhosts, and just generally even out the power of Exaltations in general?

>>22153535
Noted. I knew I missed something. Always the little things.

>>22153578
Can't fix all the problems

>>22153578
To go along with that, the example character doesn't mention her calculating her resilience but it show up on her sheet.

Loving the new way specialties work though.

What the hell /tg/?

This should be on the front page constantly!

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It's Christmas time, and DtD is in the air.

>>22153689
You have problems

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>mfw I'll need to remake up my DMing cheat sheets/DM screen again.

>>22153374

While this is pretty awesome to get more work done on it all, LawfulNice, any chance there's a bookmarked version in the works?

Alternatively, somebody tell me how to bookmark a pdf.

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>>22153789
I need to dig around to find the files for updating, and actually read the damn thing, but might as well post the old versions for anybody who ever runs D:td

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>>22153826

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>>22153836

>fuck, I never even filled in that other gap?

>>22153845
Have a pin-up girl, duh.

If any newcomers to Dungeons: The Dragoning have any questions or want to get a game together, our IRC channel is #DtDChat on irc.rizon.net

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>>22153789
Coming soon. I wanted to get this out before the end of the world. I'm very thankful to my lovely editor for the assistance - she managed to get it together on very short notice for me.

>>22154016

Ah, that's pretty nifty then. I'll have to look at this. I was running a game of D:tD as a solo game for one guy and had to mothball it due to real life problems. have to see which version they'd prefer when I unpack it again in another month or so.

What program do you make these pdfs in, by the way?

>>22153374
Thank you LawfulNice, this game is the shit.

>>22153660
This needs a fucking sticky.

>>22154016
That rabbit is frightening. Regardless, fukken sweet, dude.

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>>22154016

Christmas has come early it seems.

A couple of things however;

Homing still doesn't exist as a weapon quality. Missiles in the vehicle weapons section have it listed, but nowhere is a mechanical effect described.

No bookmarks!

>>22155121
>Mom I wanted the white Iphone, not the black one
>I hate you all, you're all terrible

Sure is privileged in here

The king of tabletop games, DtD.

>>22155147
I kind of agree with you on bookmarks, but a weapon ability that is listed but not described is a genuine oversight.

>>22155246
How to fix this
>Okay guys, this weapon has tracking so it can't miss

Problem solved

>>22155630
Chaff?

>>22155674
Only works on Radar

Doesn't this go a little beyond joking OP?
It's not april 4th anymore, you know?

>>22155725

That's the joke- That DtD is actually a really awesome and fun game, and fully deserves the continued support.

>>22155725

Yes. You may have little fiddly bits here or there that you don't like about it, but it's actually a lot of fun. It's a shame that it's totally impossible to market due to it being fantastically plagaristic.

>>22155790
Am I the only who thinks parts of the setting plagiarize so hard they wrap back around to being fairly original?

>>22155821

I personally love how some stuff slams together from different settings. I've kind of been wanting to write a cyberpunky/GITS/Dues Ex fansplat of my own.

I love you LN!

I always look for a good non-printing character sheet for this, but can't find one.
No character sheets for internet-playing bros?

>>22155147
>Someone is doing legitimate criticism!
>That's bad!

We aren't in fucking kindergarten here.

I'm just stopping by to declare my undying adoration for you LN. You are the greatest fa/tg/uy to ever live.

>>22155790
Parody is legally protected.

Found a few more minor points;
Unlike the other exalts, Wraith and Dragonblooded don't have a described tell.
On the Cuthbert morality chart, 'Refusing to punish someone for a major crime' is listed twice at morality 8 and morality 3. Morality 8 is obviously meant to be minor.
Example character on page 17 uses a slightly different character sheet to the one at the back of the book.

>>22155630
Unfortunately, that would make them better than every other vehicle weapon by quite a large margin due to the fact that two of the weapons that have homing can only fire on full auto.
SRM's would deal an automatic 9k2+10 damage, LRM's would deal an automatic 8k2+10 damage and homing arrow IV's would deal an automatic 6k1 + 30 damage.

For reference, a D-cannon, which uses the same space as a LRM and is twice the cost, deals 4k2 damage, if it hits and has the potential to deal an additional 2k0 damage if it beats the TN sufficiently and is firing on full auto.

>>22156368
Not as universally as you might think. 40k is a British product, and no amount of "this is a loving parody" will protect Lawful Nice from legal woes if the book ever is sold in Britain or Canada.

>>22155790
Well, it's just a nightmare to put the sources into th text... But it can be marketed as some kind of parodic compilation.

Personally, I'd love it if this setting was used as basis for E.Y.E. That game would make a lot more sense while still keeping the same gameplay. Also, a lot more memorable.

>>22153374
>never heard of this
>see thread
>read comments
>mite be fun
>start reading the rulebook
>races section
>tau
>star trek quote out of nowhere
fucking lost it, good show, I'm enjoying myself

What's the difference between the two books?

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>>22156646
>never heard of this
Sonny, you best be lurking more afore you post something so silly again.

>>22156696
The second book adds four more races, two new exalts, new classes, gun kata, vehicle rules and weapon creation rules.

>>22156696

Book 2 is a splat

>>22156743

And the gun creation rules are terrible. Easily fixed though. Usually max mods is 2 or 3, but instead change it to an additive thing. Detrimental mods + beneficial mods = 2 or 3

>>22156728
I left /tg/ during the great purge and everytime I came back the memories hurt too much

>>22156458

>E.Y.E.

Oh yeah, that's another thing I was gonna drag into the setting.

>>22156787

Also, I banned surface bombardment if I'm intending for the game to be played more at the personal scale of things, as it's insaneo powered.

>>22157302
Hey, LN, have you played E.Y.E?
It might have some interesting additions for D:tD. For example, exploding people by hitting them with a sword. Also, being killed by doors and ATMs.

>>22157398

I'm not LN.

For my random splat thing, I'd been thinking about trying to expand cybernetics, and make some sort of mental hacking combat as an optional system.

From what I've played of E.Y.E., I think having the Secreta whatevers and the like mimicing fucked up orders like Jedi/sith would be a possibility.

>exploding people by hitting them with a sword
>Iron Heart style: Hammer of the emperor

>>22156380
Another thing that probably wants looking at is abilities which, in the previous version, treated a targets size as being less than usual.
To keep the effect the same in the new version, it would be more worth while for this to now reduce the targets resilience.
This has already been done for some of the abilities, such as felling giants blow from stone dragon. However, the weapon quality from the weapon creation rules, felling, has not been changed.

Oh my god I'm so glad I went onto /tg/ today!

Do you have any ideas for new DtD stuff? I mean, it's not like you have to, since it's pretty complete with these 2 books, but more would be amazing!

>>22153374
I love this game so much
but I'm still confused about the classes and spending xp
could someone explain how this works?

Rolled 96

>>22158139
The Big Book of Beasties, Bastards, Bitches and Blood Rites

essentially a monster manual and fluff guide full of organizations and groups (taken from various sources naturally) that a hero might encounter on a good long game.

a few mega-corps from shadowrun variations in the key of tyranid; a few of the more Iconic beasties from D&D; as well as some more recognizable M;tG cards; some supernatural things from WoD (new or old matters little here)

leastways thats something I'd like to see; but alas since I never have a group to play with it's all a bit of a moot point...

>>22158506
In what sense is it confusing? It's similar to the system in WFRP.

Each class has a list of skills, characteristics and talents (some have magic, sword schools and gun kata as well).
You can only buy things that appear on the class you are in. To exit a class you need to have bought all the talents that do not have an asterix next to them.
You then enter free study,and can then buy things from any classes you have completed, so skill and characteristic advancements, sword schools, gun kata, magic and any optional talents that you have not bought.
Or, for twice the xp cost, you can buy skill and characteristic advancements that do not appear in any of your completed classes.
Whilst in free study, you can start a new class at any time as long as you meet its prerequisites.
The xp costs for things are in the table in character generation.

Hey, I didn't notice it but do Guardsmen get Gunkatas now or not?

>>22158696
No, they do not. Gun Kata is exclusive to book 2 classes.

>>22158696

No, took a look at it, and they do not get Gun Kata. Probably because gun kata do not appear in Book 1.

>>22158718
>>22158714
I know, I was just wondering if Guards were allowed or not

>>22158794

there's nothing that stops them from dipping into the class of their choice and learning gun manuevers.

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This is the fourth best Christmas present ever.

needs some more dune

>>22159181
What the hell could possibly top this?

needs some more dune

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>>22159242
Pocket fairy

>>22159181
What the heck is happening in that pic?

>>22159425
Then DtD is the 2nd best Christmas present ever, not 4th.

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>>22159453
Another season of Wakfu
A new fetish

>>22159425
Oh god that's adorable.

>>22159474
You're not going to appreciate the fetish next to all the ones you already have. And while a new season of Wakfu would be nice, wouldn't it be even better to use these new books to run a Wakfu/DtD crossover (or something)?

>>22159543
Ahh, but the wonders of a new fetish is that it opens up a new world of wonder, images you have yet to see, new artists, all new boners!

>>22159578
Yeah sure, that's what you think when you first unwrap it but by February it'll be sitting in your closet next to that old Megazord that's missing an arm because you lost one of them while you were playing at your friend Timmy's.

>>22159637
>playing with your friend Timmy
FTFY. And no, fetishes aren't like that at all, they stick. Or maybe that's just me, I still read NTR doujins once in a while

is there anything in DtD books about Wakfu?

>>22159425
shit nigga
that's kawaii

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>>22159474
>Another season of Wakfu
I'd rather go with "It's not my fault..." anime.

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>>22159710
Am I being trolled? You do know it's already in the makings right?

>>22159720
Made. They made it a while ago.

>>22159720
yeah, I don't frequent /a/ very much but 3000 posts sticky thread was kinda hard to miss

>>22159755
I might be wrong here, but
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-12-20/watashi-ga-motenai-no-wa-dou-kangaete-mo-omaera-ga-w
arui-manga-gets-anime
This was posted 2 days ago

>>22159755
To clarify - Wakfu is already in the making (possibly done by now?), It's not my fault was just annonced.

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>>22159803
You what? I've looked everywhere, the only thing I can find is the Wakfu and Dofus movies. And a Dofus cartoon too, which takes place back during Ogrest's Chaos and is more childfriendly

>>22159853
That's a pity.
Oh well, DtD is still fuckinmg awesome

I've a question regarding dungeons the dragoning

It seems that buying backgrounds is ridiculously unbalanced, what with only costing 50 points per blip. one of my players has five wealth for only 100 of the starting experience? is this a typo, or is each additional background blip only cost 50?

or is this just an oversight?

>>22162856
>dungeons the dragoning
>balance

>>22162856

100 each for every dot above 3, and only buyable at character creation. So wealth 5 costs 3 Free dots, and 200 xp. Don't remember whether you can use Vampire's 4 free ones to go above 3.

>>22162988
but that seems too easy, shouldn't having 5 be a bit more difficult?

>>22163018

You're essentially spending a quarter of your starting xp, which is the only thing you can buy backgrounds and assets with, to get a boost on the ability to acquire gear later, which may or may not be useful, depending on where the game is set. You start in Sigil, you can find some nice gear, and can afford it, you start on a backwater sphere, all the dosh in the world can't buy you a suit of power armor they don't have.

Honestly the more broken options tend to be things like veteran of the wheel, where you can get to having 5 in one of your primary stats, as well as 4 or 5 in your normal method of combat, or artifact, where you can get a really useful piece of gear, that's nigh unbreakable.

One thing I do like about the new edition is it makes it easier to damage characters. I once made a Paladin who took roughly something like 45 damage to take one point of actual hp damage.

...what are action points? what do you use them for? they're referred to like, five times in the text.

>>22163228
I think it's the Paragon's currency of aweomeness, like a Vampire's blood pool. I might be thinking of something else though.

Rolled 4, 1, 5, 8, 6, 2, 2, 4, 1 = 33

dammit this does nothing but makes me want to play a game of D:tD

but I know I never will...

just like my friend who has always wanted to run a game of shadowrun...

but neither of us has a steady or stable enough group to either run or play any kind of game with rules that heavy...

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Oh boy it really is christmas!

Merry Christmas everybody!

There better be time magic in this shit

Bumpan for the black of night.

Book 3 when

>>22155725
>april 4th
>4th
???

>>22155898
I've kind of considered a Brothel Quest mini-splat.

>>22156452
He's not selling it though.

>>22159543
>Wakfu splat, with an exaltation for each god
Sounds worthwhile to me!

>>22162856
Yeah, buy some backgrounds. Shit's great. That said, you only really need a single extraordinarily wealthy PC.

>>22163018
I don't see why.

>>22163982
I don't think there is inherently, but you can have time shenanigans through warp travel if you'd like.

>>22166342
Yes please

just asking but
why didn't i know of this before
like why isn't this more discussed on /tg/

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>mfw I will never be able to get a group together for this
>mfw I will never get to play as a vampire Paladin of the Burning Hate

>>22167129

Probably because while it plays, getting non /tg/ers to give it a go is probably a haphazard attempt. And there's only so much discussion one can do about the massive amount of parody and the like inside of it.

>>22167258
For me the issue is that it's very hard to play something like this game if English isn't your mother tongue.
Because you'd either force all players to speak English, which is retarded, or have to translate 90% of the book in order to make it comprehensible.

Oh wow, those Paragon Exalt abilities.

>>22153374
LN, buddy!
You DMed an IRC AdEva campaign I was in a while back with my friend Blast. How ya been?

>>22166312
My birthday, obviously. D:tD was an early birthday present, and no amount of reality will convince me otherwise.

>>22156452
What? It'd be protected in Britain too.

>>22167400
I feel your pain, my friend.
It just sounds wrong using English words while GMing in German.

>>22167449
Not to the same level as in the US. The UK parody laws require either written consent to parody from the original copyright owner or a license from the original copyright owner stating how many times the parody may be portrayed.

>>22167400
Oh goddess
Attempting to play something in Finnish that's not STALKER RPG or Valley of Eternity gives nightmares.

>>22167400
>>22167476
>>22167497
You know what that means.
We need to find a way to make RPGs playable internationally.
Any suggestions?

I guess the hardest parts are fluff and not rules.

>>22167683
That's impossible.
Unless you manage to find words that are stupid-neutral in meaning in all languages

>>22167871
Lojban?

>>22168046
Not language, words that don't sound dumb in other languages.
Like Katon: Goukakyuu no Jutsu, for example
[fire technique or however katon is translated into english]: Great Fireball
and in finnish it'd be "Tuli: Suuri Tulipallo" or something equally moronic sounding like that.

We'd have to find words that don't mean something as retarded as "Suuri Tulipallo", par exemple

8hump

This is the best thing ever, and I wish we would talk about it more.

bump