You may continue, sir...

>>22040134
Tell me more.

Sounds pretty cool, actually.

That actually sounds really badass. I'd play it.

>>22040134
That mimic picture is badass, 'specially because the eyes and mouth slowly disappear. Continue, good sir.

What happens at level 20? They make a full transition into the monster?

Going to trip in this thread, just to say ideas, and get some back from you guys.
Hope you don't mind.

So the separate levels.
I wanted to split them up as a sort of option for players.
Let's say someone doesn't want to "give in" to there monster side. For whatever reason that may be.
Then it lets them continue there character without the other side intruding on how they want to play there character.

Everyone would get a monster side, some people building there houses off it, like the house of the lycan. Or house of the flumph.
Where people who have the same monster type have come together.
I was thinking everyone has it, because it makes the game less of a, "Chosen hero" type thing and more of what DnD is, just a bunch of murder hobos.

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>>22040275
No, they never make the full transformation.
they still keep there human form, but they are heavily influenced by there monster side.
An example I used for my friend was there inner monster being a wolf. They would end up looking like this pic.
Pretty much in there werewolf form 24/7
But have complete control over themselves.
With the occasional urge to sniff other peoples ass.

And level 20 is just an idea. Not the actual number.

>>22040134
Sounds Rad.

Also make that some gear become available only if you are "monster enough" or "human enough", bonus to weapons and armors who can be weared by both, let's say.
Swords can't be used by Human/Mimic 5/10
since hands aren't controlled enough to hold it, but increase damage in unarmed combat, since now they are more like flails of flesh.

I would play it.

>>22040348
That would need a huge amount of thought into it, since it could pretty much cripple certain players. Like Imagine a warrior, that suddenly can't use his hands.
I do agree with you though.
For example Myconids Can't wear helmets. Because of there fat mushroom head. But they can make special hats for an increased gold price.
I think with your mimic hand idea, a penalty would be fine.

>So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
No one will ever change this animal I have become
Help me believe it's not the real me
Somebody help me tame this animal
(This animal, this animal)

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>>22040481
FUCK YOU

But what if my inner monster is a skeleton?

>>22040518
Ghoul time.

>>22040437
Please tell me the DM randomly rolls the monster and doesnt tell the player which one he is until the player statts to unleash it. Its how i would DM a mutating monster game. Also helps you make a list of 'allowed monsters' to roll from so it doesn't affect balance TOO much. Expecting this not to turn balance upside down is foolish. I like it!

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>>22040518
Then you would get skinnier, loose skin off your fingers, then about half way through, you look like a warcraft forsaken. At 3/4 you probably look like this.
You pretty much have your skin fall off.

>>22040437
Sounds about right.

>tfw I can be owlbear

All of my money

>>22040134
sounds awesome. I must know more

>>22040552
Really any monster would work right? Just need the powers gained to balance.

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I would be more than happy to endorse this idea.

Provided I can have one of those six legged tigers from John Carter of Mars as my inner monster.

Do you have a name for it OP?

Monster-Hearts
Inner Demons
Dark Reflections

That's all I got for the moment, but they don't seem to fit the setting. From what I can tell it's less "Crawling in my skin" more "A day in the life of a monster"

>>22040598

If any monster works...
This should be retooled into a monstergirl game for ERP reasons.

>>22040552
Depends on the GM.
But I like that idea.
Gm rolls two dice, one to decide there base species. Another to decide the sub species.

Or if the GM feels nice, the player gets to choose there main species, but the gm rolls for the type.
Obviously the GM gets the last say on what races are available, or you will be running with a party of dragon people.

>>22040634
Monster hearts sounds nice. But the other two seem a lil grim.
My friend recommended, Mega Monster Murder Hobos.

I want it to be more, inner talents or born to noble house sort of shit. And less, "Dark brooding past"

>>22040134
I. LOVE. this idea.

You could be a Rust Monster/Monk whose punches eat away armor/weapons. Or a Beholder/Wizard who starts growing eyestalks that fire lasers. The possibilities are endless.

>>22040634
I vote against Monster Hearts.

Because that's ALREADY a game system (Based on Apocalypse World).

>>22040679
Lets go with Monster-Hearts. It's simple and to the point, and sort of so dumb its good.

Maybe set the game world up in a constructed environment or a wierd multiplanar place like sigil?

I have this idea of the players being from noble houses and having tattoos that mark them as a part of the houses and stuff. I'm mostly seeing the inner monster thing as something that afflicts the populace and there are no typical goblin races and stuff, just crazy people who can't cope with their inner monster, or y'know...jerks.

>>22040722
Yep. Not only that, but one that centres on teenage angst.

>Monsterhearts lets you and your friends create stories about sexy monsters, teenage angst, personal horror, and secret love triangles. When you play, you explore the terror and confusion that comes both with growing up and feeling like a monster.

>Based on the Apocalypse World engine, this is a game with emergent story, messy relationships, a structured MC role, and a focus on hard choices.

>It’s designed to evoke stories like True Blood, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Ginger Snaps or The Twilight Saga. If you like supernatural romances, or stories of monstrosity and personal horror, or if you just like watching sexy people ruin their lives, then you’ll love this game.

>>22040134
>caused by (insert Dm's excuse to fit in with there world)
Magical infusion.
Genetic experiments.
Demonic corruption.

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>>22040722
Goddamnit.

Howabout Cryptozoa: <insert tagline here?>

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>>22040770
>It’s designed to evoke stories like True Blood, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Ginger Snaps or The Twilight Saga.

>>22040751
I'd vote against tats. Just the monstery bits is enough, y'know?
Plus with tattoos and houses you get dangerously close to Dragonmarks

Could be fun, but I'd worry about it turning into angsty otherkin bait.

>>22040774
How about magical infusion?

We have a singlecontinent that once upon a time was populated with all the stereotypical monster races along with humans (and maybe elves and orfs and stuff. I think it works better without them. Whatever.) Some enterprising wizards cast a spell and wiped the monsters from the face of existence but preserving humans (and elves and dorfs and stuff maybe) and normal animals from thereality warping effects of the spell.

However where there is a reaction there is an equal, yet opposite reaction. With the monster races gone something has to take their place! Now <insert number of centuries/millenia later here> people are discovering that they have the abilities of some monsters of yore.

>>22040788
From the AP's I've heard of it, it's supposed to be the trainwrecks that those all involve, not SparkleMotion.

Specifically, how horrifying it would be to be the FATHER of the dumb bitch in Twilight, watching his slightly retarded daughter change, and realizing she's being stalked and molested by the undead.

>>22040722
How does Creatures path sound?
>>22040751
I think the scenario should be able to fit into any world, so a sort of magical aftermath from a crazed litch or a god of chaos, who fancied playing a joke on the wold.

I think there would be monsters still, but once again it's all on what the GM chooses, monsters like orcs and ogres COULD be people who have lost control of there other side.

Funny you should mention the houses and stuff, because there is another question.

Should the monsters be based off blood lines?

Also can I get some more questions on things to help me work out the bugs.

>>22040828
I like this

>>22040803
I was thinking more of those marks they have in Bloody Roar but whatever.

Maybe have one house show an affinity for body mods...? Tats and Piercings and such?

Eh Whatevs.

So do we want noble houses and such to be focused around monster type or allegience to a creed of some sort?

Sorta like one house is where all the White Knights hang out and one is where all the Thieves hold their shin-digs?

>>22040828
The problem is, now that you've mentioned magic, people will want to be wizards. I have no qualms against wizards, provided they're done right. Too bad, that rarely happens.

>>22040847
I like Cryptozoa more OP but hit me with a tag line.

Creature's Path: <Tag Line goes here>

Oh and I think the monster thing should be based more on a person's peronality, likes, dislikes, etc. etc. I'd kinda prefer a world without monsters, where the orc, goblin, and kobold niches are filled by people who are channeling those monsters or who are just jerks with special powers but that's just me.

>>22040874
Eh simple enough, have mystical back lash screw with spells, make only the most simple and effective spells work, stuff like magic missile or purify water, or conjure food. Stuff like dimensional warping or stopping time is likely to cause some sort of horrific backlash effect that will probably kill your character.

Make the cosntruction and maintanence of magical items a fairly epic quest that involves hunting down and slaying powerful monster people or rcovering ancient artifacts.

Make it a setting where your monster abilities are more important than any magic you could use, magic is just a tool.

>>22040933
>>22040874

or you need to be mostly human to cast magic, but whenever the spell fails or you cast powerful magic you add points to you inner creature. So over time you'd be unable to cast magic.

>>22040933
I have an idea: because your inner monster is magical in nature, using magic will harm you greatly. Not only that, the higher your level is, the more this magic will hurt you.

>>22040828
That could be a good scenario, but you would lose allot of the normal monsters. And would restrict the base player races.
>>22040871
>body mods.
Don't see why not, you could have a house obsessed with whatever you want in your campaign. But having to tattoo or mod yourself to use your powers seems a bit forced.
Why not keep it to a group of them, who want to be more one with there monster sides, who have the body modifications as a right of passage.

>So do we want noble houses and such to be focused around monster type or allegience to a creed of some sort?

I like the idea of houses based off there monster types. The stronger variations of the monsters being the higher ups.

I understand a creed for certain groups, but if the monsters inside is common within everyone, then there is really no point in all people having a creed.
>>22040874
Agreed.

>>22040949
So there's a decline of magi because anything that casts magic powerful enough to actually do something they gradually looses its arcane powers?


A different question though.
Once you go monster enough, can you only copul-, no rather, breed with the same "species" or does anything go. This is important, as a great many rather sick things can happen if you don't set rules about this now.

>>22040949
Sort of like shadow run's essence dealy? The more monster you are the better your attacks are (Like slime touch, Beholder Rays, or a natural bite/claw attack) and the less powerful spells you can cast.

The more human you are (maybe some sort of MP system with a recovery and burn rate based on how human you are) the better sapells you can cast but everytime one of your spells backfires the ever present monster field warps you a little more?

>>22040981
>the ever present monster field warps you a little more?
Speaking of, is it possible to mix different types of monsters?

This sounds like a really neat idea op.

>>22040966
I was thinking of the tattoos and stuff being a side effect of the monster powers, but whatever its a personal preference and not important to the matter at hand.

As for player races, well why shouldn't you just keep to all humans? The important part here as near as I can tell is having monster abilities and using them for stuff and if we stick to that and implement the "Magic is only useful if you're human" thing and use a corruption meter to make magic less effective you have a handy control mechanism to keep mages from becoming too OP.

As for the houses being based around Race... I suppose. It just seems too stereotypical to me. But whatevs, creative differences.

I'm looking at it as "You start off human and you find out what kind of monster you are."

Other people might look at it as "You're born with a certain kind of monster inside of you."

>>22041013
What... like take levels in slime and Salamander to get pyro jelly attacks?

>>22041045
And taking levels in salamander and bird to become a dragon. This is awesome.

Dear OP;
You are not a fag, and I love you in a platonic way. Please run with this.

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>Problem in game with magic becoming OP
>Mention corruption mechanics involving use of magic
>Mention Mix&Match monster people

Why not just make the manipulation of "The Monster Field" magic in and of itself?

We'll call it The Creature's Path.

>>22041024
I like this.
I really like the idea of not knowing whats inside you. You figure out a power (potentially accidentally) and can kind of guess what you might be. But you don't know for sure till you start mutating.

>>22040903
When it comes to titles I'm not sure.

>based more on a person's peronality, likes, dislikes, etc.
That would be good, but monsters can have different personalities to.

>I'd kinda prefer a world without monsters, where the orc, goblin, and kobold niches are filled by people who are channeling those monsters or who are just jerks with special powers but that's just me.
And I think that's a perfectly viable idea.

>>22040960
>>22040949
>>22040933
But what about magical creatures. Surely being part beholder would make magic even easier.

I think the game should be more of an addon than a stand alone game type.
If it is a stand alone thing, then it would be allot more restrictive. Making it just a mechanic or game addon let's you stick it into any sort of game scenario.

Rolled 6

If we have monsters they should be freaks, like Mix and Match monsters. I'm getting a 90s Saturday Morning Cartoon vibe from this.

1: Slime
2: Zombie
3: Giant Insect
4: Salamander
5: Myconoid
6: Mimic

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Hot dag! I just found my new character!

Rolled 4

>>22041183
should have rolled 2 dice...oh well.

>>22041201
>>22041183
So a Mimic with a Salamander subtype.

Maybe a creature that shapeshifts so it looks like lanterns and stuff, stalks around human settlements looking for wood and coal and stuff to eat?

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>>22041183
Good idea. I'm thinking some Toxic Avengers or TMNT fuckery. Transparent bodies, eye stalks, lobster claws, tentacles, extra head kind of stuff.

Think we could get a freak generator chart going?

>>22041201
>>22041183
>Mimic on fire

>>22041185
Skeleton Jelly?

>>22041232
Hell yeah.

>>22041162
Eh, it varies.

Think about it, Beholders are just big floating eyeballs with eyestalks, one of those eye stalks is a disentigrator beam, one freezes things etc, etc,

If you look at the lasers as racial abilities ( aFairy's ability to turn invisible for instance) then the magic thing makes perfect sense since the spell caster in question is trying to warp reality and turning into the monster would push him further along the Creature's Path and tie up some of his mana in his monster abilities.

I guess you scpould state thatthey gain greater access and ability with spells that suit their monster type but have a harder time casting opposing spells to that creature's type as they go further along?

Hum. PErsonal preferences I guess.

>>22040980
> breed with the same "species"
Very good question. VERY good question.
I think this would be on house rules. But my personal idea would be this.
Wolf man and orc lady. Roll d20 10 or below is orc 11 or higher would be wolf.
Then you roll a d20 on the quality of the type.
It would still be normal human/orc whatever.

>>22041013
>>22041045
>>22041055
Would have to be house rules or it would become really strange. Or it could be a whole separate part of the game. Like a second version of it.

>>22041024
I think the game is splitting into two types.
The stand alone game. And the addon.

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>>22041201
>>22041183
Remember the [x] [y] skeleton thread from yesterday? What if we did something like that?

>>22041250
Xmen did it?
That red guy. Fuck it can't remember his name now.

So we've got the basic human-monster idea, then there's the more complex mutant-monster thing. I like them both!

As for the magic screwing up, a chart like DH's psyker perils thing would be ideal, yes? "Oops, my fireball backfired and now I'm a living pile of charcoal."

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>>22040134

OP I love, love, love! This idea! I may steal it. I would like to see it work similar to a demon-spawn's mutations in DCSS. Where you get random mutations that may increase in tiers. So you roll on a chart and get wings and talons, which get stronger with time. A person may assume their inner beast was a bird. But if someone got wings and fangs, they could assume bat.

Lump in elemental resistances, tentacles, telepathy and all kinds of fun stuff and you have a group of horrors. It would also prevent everyone from going full monster all the time or ruin (readjust) their character plans. Someone who knows they are aquatic would probably focus on pole-arms, nets, ect. And then if they get a stone-skin (sink) mutation they would have to re-think those plans.

Just ideas I'm kicking around.

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>>22041228
Oh hell yes son.

I'm thinking low level monsters would be combinations of animals and jellies and goblins and stuff.

Mid level ones would be orcs, and ogres mixed with giant spiders and what not.

High level ones would be dragons mixed with sphinxes and what have you.

>Given thatweb
That's right captcha, we're gonna give dragons webs.

>>22040134
>grease and slime
>lowers stealth
all of my what

We CoC now.

>>22041307
>SPLOSH SPLOSH
>Whose footprints are these
>oh fuck i'm slippery knocking shit over oh god

>>22041307
>guard
Is someone there?

*squish, squelch*

Bob? You fucking the prisoners again?

>>22041329
OP asked for not grimdark. CoC is pretty grimdark.

>>22041270
Looks that way yes, I suppose you could just homebrew some rules for it and add a continent where monster people exist for a "Now for something completely different" in Pathfinder or 4thed

Or you could play standalone Creature's Path.

>>22041331
>>22041307

I guess stealth would depending on a lot of things, specially the consistency of your ooze.

>>22041282
So now we are running with 4 game modes.
>Game add on
The inner monster part is simply added to any game type with set homebrew rules to dictate monster restrictions and penalties.
>Game type.
Humans are the only ones who can do it, with magic corruption effecting play.
>Complex monsters.
Mix and match monster fun.
>Mutations.
Could be any of the things but instead of monster mutations you get body horror mutations.

>>22041348
Settings-wise, sure.

But mechanically.

>You drink the horse elixir!
>You gain six strength
>and also a horsecock

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Let's do this!

Rolled 1, 4 = 5

>>22041276
Interesting, lets try this out.

I assume gnomes and such are the typical elemental versions and not their D&D equivilents?

>>22041363
>implying priapism is a positive thing

>>22041276
Come on Skeleton Dinosaur Gargoyles.

What about size?
Shouldn.t you be only able to use medium size monster? i don't thing a Human/kraken would be plausible, or does it?

Rolled 7, 1, 6 = 14

>>22041389
Dicks.

>>22041380
Typical elementals.

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>>22041278
Glob Herman

>>22041393
Having monster types(undead, demonic, reptilian) instead of monsters, would probably be more balanced and vague.

>>22041402
Is that Sha'drac in there?

Rolled 1, 3, 2 = 6

>>22041276
~of fire

>>22041380
Chameleon Slime

A Slime with a particularly thick membrane around its nucleus and digestive slurry. This membrane can change colors and create surprisingly complex patterns allowing the chameleon slime to go unseen until it decides to eat something (usually something smaller than itself)

One of it's noted behaviours is an odd attraction to jewels and gold and many an adventurer has given himself acid burns by clutching greedily at the treasures held in a Chameleon slime's corpse

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>>22041276
>list 12 choices
>write d10 out of habit

>>22041393
Kraken is just a giant squid, person in question would get a beak, tentacles, in jets, skin that can change color on demand, gills, and maybe a few feet of hieght.

>>22041393
Well I figure that since you only take on aspects of your monster rather than completely changing into that monster, larger types would work out fine. Someone who was a kraken-soul would maybe have some tentacles and suckers and/or or octopus qualities.

>>22040134

I'd be interested, OP. How many monsters are you going to have to choose from?

How many transitional levels between human and full monster morph? Just four?

Rolled 1, 11, 5 = 17

>>22041448

Okay so we have a continent, or maybe a world where people have Monster Souls or something.

We can assume that the rolse of goblins and stuff are filled either by people with monster souls or mix&match beasties.

What we need now is a name for the continent, some major cities, and a source of conflict.

I'm thinking we should treat the whole thing the same way you'd treat the setting for a 90s post apocalyptic saturday morning cartoon show. Its like a typical D&D world After The End, and Everything Is Better With Mutants.

(Our Theme song starts off with a fucking epic guitar solo and the song makes numerous references to "Walking down The Creature's Path")

Rolled 5, 6, 6 = 17

>>22041508
Sounds like your average party.
Slimerogue, Dinofighter, FireWizard

inb4 trip manticore

Drawfag here

I work a lot with the pixel tool brushes that the OP's drawings are in.

If people can find me the proper resolution template OP used, I can do some requests for the monster progression pictures because they look fun as shit to draw.

Rolled 2, 1, 1 = 4

>>22041418
Slime Myconoid Skeleton

Poison Resist Triple checked

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>>22041496
> How many monsters are you going to have to choose from?
As many as people want to be. All the basic monsters will be pre made. But the rarer ones would probably be home-brewed.
>How many transitional levels between human and full monster morph? Just four?
That's just a picture, you need to think for yourself on it, each level you look more and more, the levels on there were just an example.

>>22041560
just for you

>appearance based on level
That is my fetish (well, metaphorically speaking) in RPGs.

Also, it sounds hella cool, do it.

1: Slime
2: Undead
3: Floral
4: Mimic
5: Salamander
6: Sylph
7: Undine
8: Gnome
9: Fairy
10: Reptile
11: Avian
12: Rodent
13: Canine
14: Feline
15: Insectoid
16: Arachnoid
17: Goblinoid
18: Eldritch
19: Celestial
20: Demonic

I think its best if we're vague as possible with this chart, butthat's just me.

Rolled 18, 7 = 25

>>22041651

Rolled 15, 14 = 29

>>22041651
Let's see now... Hoping for avian.

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>>22041651

So something like this for each monster?

Rolled 20, 1 = 21

>>22041685
>insectoid

Oh gods, NO.

>>22041675
Water Elemental+Eldritch Subtype

Abyssal Water Elemental

An Elemental that usually calls the darkest depths of the ocean home. On the rare occasions these creatures do roam the landscape their very appearance can cause brave men and stout warriors to go mad. These creatures are not just walking humanoid figures of water, they are enormous slouching masses of seaweed, muc and highly pressurized water. They can slice a stone wall open with a spray of water or force a man to gaze upon the strange otherworldly creatures that dwell deep inside of them.

The only advice that can be given when facing an Abyssal Water Elemental is this: Run, and hope you have nothing it wants.

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>>22041651
This chart could be more bizarre.

>>22041691
Something like that, yeah.

Maybe have something like 5-6 stages.

The first being human, the last being full monster and the 3 or 4 transitional stages being where most people are.

You've got it down pact friend.

>>22041694
Demonic slime, huh.

Jello-ised lava from the bowels of earth. Feeds mostly on rocks of various kinds. Can keep its heat contained to not melt through the earth but if need be can turn the heat up to a bajillion degrees celcius. Getting out of the hole the slime'd burrow through the earth would take a while, though.

>>22041691
1) Isn't everything from level 2 disturbing and unnatural?
2) If every human is afflicted by this...disease, would their appearance not matter?

Rolled 11, 11, 10 = 32

>>22041651
Looks like fun.

1: Slime
2: Undead
3: Floral/Myconoid
4: Mimic
5: Fire
6: Air
7: Water
8: Earth
9: Fae
10: Reptile
11: Avian
12: Rodent
13: Canine
14: Feline
15: Insect/Arachnid
16: Equine
17: Goblinoid
18: Eldritch
19: Celestial
20: Demonic

>>22041739
I would assign that guy to the Fae or Eldritch category.

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>>22041560

This guy here, how did I do? Any requests?

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>>22041843

>>22041843
Awesome, although, I expected lv. 20 to be a drider.

>>22041749

Maybe we're thinking about this all wrong. Maybe we should look at the transformation like a check list. You get a stress or transformation event worth a certain number of points that you have to mark off.

I'm not sure, I'm tired:

Agitation / Stress / Strong emotions trigger the transformation.
Creature: Slime-Morph

[ ] Perspire Oils
[ ] Flesh softens
[ ] Skin becomes translucent
[ ] Begin to secrete mucus - appears wet / sick
[ ] Begins to secrete mucus - very noticeable
[ ] Flesh turns green
[ ] Body consistency is like putty
[ ] Body consistency is like slime. Objects can pass through.

>>22041843
Curious what brush is that?
Also, gorilla

>>22041685

Tiger Wasp

The creatures are a particularly vicious form of life that, thankfully, only live in the Sky Shatter Mountains. They are (amusingly enough) tigers with six legs, a large pair of insectoid wings, compound eyes, and claws that secrete a deadly venom.

Unlike their smaller cousins Tiger Wasps are territorial and will not tolerate another Tiger Wasp in their territory, but even one is dangerous enough to bring down an experienced party of Adventurers.

Beware a Tiger Wasp Queen, especially if she is pregnant. The Royal Jelly she secretes to feed her young may be a potent alchemical ingredient but many a man has gone to his grave in search of it.

>>22041859

I use Painttool Sai, they have a binary tool that is pressure sensitive but has no anti-aliasing.

>>22041843
I would like a Cat person.

Please make it as uncute and unsexy as possible.

>>22041858
You know that's a good approach and it has a lot of potential.

The way I view it "Monstrous" is relative in a world where people are EXPECTED to mutate as a rite of passage. They'd probably be more concerened about your ethics, morality, and ability to communicate with others than your appearance.

What is this thread about? I'm more than interested and made a chat for us.

http://webchat.6irc.net/ #tg

>>22041903
Lets be honest: in Planescape, what is an average reaction of a human to a devil, and angel and a slaad walking into bar? And I'm not talking about some Prime Material-minded berk, but a cutter who has been living in Sigil for years.

>>22041903

Maybe, but that's just for the Slime example. It'll be different for every monster, and I'm sure some players will want to make up their own. Maybe there is a simple system of degrees that can be used, both for Powers and for Appearance.

>>22041928
>>22041925
In Sigil? It'd be a lifted eyebrow, a smarmy comment to his drinking buddies and business as usual.

But yeah, we should probably figure out a syetm of degrees to determine modifications in physical and mental behaviour caused by manifestations of your soul monster.

It'd probably be like attaining advantages and disadvantages as you advance farther on The Creature's Path.

>>22041928
I think appearance would not effect people that much, it would be like an halforc walking around.
Since everyone has this "curse" in some way shape or form.

>>22041965
Also how about this.
A list of advantages and disadvantages
Each level you choose one from each, every five or so, you choose a special advantage and disadvantage.

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>>22041859

Any more monster-based requests? I think they're more fun to draw than basically Werepeople.

>>22042025

Eldritch

>>22042000
I for one like it. Why don't we use this handy chart >>22041784 and just let characters pick a subtype of monster once their life changing mutations occur.

Like lets say the GM has a book of mutations and their advantages, he knows what kind of advantages the player can get so he lists them.

Better eyesight and flight are shared by Avian and Insectoid subtypes the GM knows his player wants to be a bird and fly but he wound up with Insectoid/Arachnoid instead.

He starts out thinking he's going to be a hawk person and winds up a Dragon Fly instead and the GM will narrate his transformation as he grows compound eyes and four vestigal bug wings...

>>22040933
If we're going for a lighthearted feel, we could create some kind of mana system (reminiscent to the Power Points of the Psions in 3.X, perhaps.) Just give it low amounts of mana/have to burn health if you run out, releasing inner monster/make them all have back-lash. It lets you be a Wizard, but still stops you from being a murder-machine.

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>>22042025
I really want that cat person but whatevs.

How about a:
Fae with Chaos subtype, basically a chaos elemental.
Fae with Order subtype, order elemental.
Any of the classic western elements, maybe person with storm or metal element subtypes or something.
A Dragon Fly, Scorpion, Assassin Bug or Plant person.

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>>22042000
>>22042076
I started making something.

>>22042088
That was my thought basically.

Givce the PCs some basic spells/abilities and a limited number of MP to spend. The more MP the more powerful the spell/ability

>>22042088
>It lets you be a Wizard, but still stops you from being a murder-machine.

You have never seen a optimized wizard, didn't you?

>>22042141
Interesting.

so our basic undead types are: Skeleton, Zombie, and Ghost right?

That means we should build advantages in along those lines. An undead subtype, once he hits mid level transformation can only attain sustenance by draining living beings, but he's ageless and immune to disease.

This sound about right?

>>22042088
>>22042156
I like this, so they get there own monster skills resource, using it up and trying to use there monster skills drains hit points.

>>22042141
Are you sure 4 is enough?

>>22042213
Exactly, a slime might have parlytic goo or something, a cat person might have pouncing, A spider would have webs/poison A gorilla would have rustled jimmies

Each of them would have a pool of Monster Points to perform their special abilities and they'd probably get extra attack/damage die if they spent more monster points.

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I decided to pick ones from the list. My only complaint from an artistic point of view would be that too many of the choices are animalistic instead of monstrous. It makes it feel more... Werewolf-y. I'd take out ones like Equine and throw in some Cyclops', Minotaurs, or Trolls. I dunno.

>>22042250
Does "Golem" count as a monster?

>>22042235
I want to start with 4 and then go higher. I wouldn't mind help, though.

>>22042262

Oh yeah, over time your skin can turn into whatever golem subtype you end up as.

Maybe even going so far as clockwork or crystal.

>>22042263
I think these would make good major points.
like level 1, level 5 level 10 level 20
all between them is just stuff like. +1 to this -1 to that.

>>22042250
Rust monster, or troll would be neat

>>22042250
Just grab Fae, attach subtype "Cyclops" to it.

I don't wanna lock people into D&D monster subtypes just because they have some cool monsters.

Equine could easily be switched out with Bovine for a Minotaur for instance.

This is a really fucking cool idea.

>>22042262
>>22042282
Golems are constructs, both in the original Hebrew lore and in D&D lore.

What you're looking at is an earth elemental subtype.

>>22042347

You're underestimating the magic of magic. Golems would offer more options than just different elements such as the aforementioned clockwork golem as well as possibly a nuetronium golem subtype that could work as a BBEG for a setting.

What happens when you happen to his the jackpot and do nothing but gain more power the more they abuse their power?

>>22042310

>Rust monster

Best monk ever.

>>22042414
You get props for imagination but lose them for plot holes see >>22040828 Golems don't have souls or a specific magiecological niche. They're made by mages for mages to use. It doesn't make sense for a person with a monster soul to have a golem's soul since golems are nothing more than magically motivated automotons.

I suppose you could homebrew the golem thing but it doesn't make any sense to me with the given "Monsters are dead, no John you are the monster" setting idea.

Also:
>Nuetronium golem.
No, I don't care if you can have a kraken as your soul monster, a creature that can kill star systems is out of line.

>Clockwork golem.
Modron as soul monster.

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I've made a second one. What do you guys think?

>>22042592

Coldblooded seems like it would be a disadvantage. Seeing as you'd lapse into a coma during cold nights and have to cuddle with party members during the night.

>>22042592
>Earth elemental
>Lv 20 can't move

Is a bit of a big disadvantage...
Unless you use earthbending to move the ground where you stand but still you are pretty much a atatue

>>22042643
You could use earthbending to move yourself, since you're made out of stone.

>>22042592
How about "serpentine agility" instead of cold blooded?

>>22042649
Didn't think of it! Thanks!

>>22042660

Oh what about venom?

>>22042592
Some of these seem a little much.
I mean surely invulnerable is a little much.
And unable to move would stop anyone picking that don't you think?

>>22042643
Yeah, I kind of assumed you'd have to move by earthbending yourself around.

>>22042592
Can we please get "resistant to disease" and "spread disease" for rodent?

>>22042670
Here's my logic: if everyone has this sort of ability, then it's ok.
>>22042660
>>22042669
Depends. Are we going for a dragon, or for a wyvern?

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I love this idea, but the homebrew process is such a horrible experience.

>>22042688

Why not go regular reptile route? It's not like half-dragons aren't already a popular enough thing. Komodo dragon people would be the worst to fight because a weak after they run away you start dying from the dozen or so diseases they just gave you with their nasty ass mouths. Meanwhile you've got snake people losing their arms and slithering the fuck out.

Makes more sense than having an entire subsection for equine when arguably mammal would suffice.

>>22042707

Homebrew is easy and fun. Balanced homebrew is a bitch.

Great idea. Personally I'd go with specific creatures, especially ones iconic of D&D.

For me I think the 20 I'd include would be.

1. Slime
2. Dire Rat
3. Goblin
4. Zombie
5. Spider
6. Pixie
7. Rust Monster
8. Skeleton
9. Mimic
10. Dire Wolf
11. Orc
12. Hill Giant
13. Myconid
14. Dire Bear
15. Troll
16. Unicorn
17. Illithid
18. Beholder
19. Dragon
20. Tarrasque

Rolled 2

>>22042818
Lessee here.

>>22042818
Why limit yourself? Go with 100. Not just D&D monsters, grab ones from classical literature and other settings as well.

>>22042875
Balancing that would be impossible.

Rolled 17

>>22042818
Let's have a go at it.

1: Slime
2: Undead
3: Floral/Myconoid
4: Mimic
5: Fire
6: Air
7: Water
8: Earth
9: Fae/Extraplanar
10: Reptile
11: Avian/Chyropterid
12: Giantkin
13: Magical
14: Chimera/Abomination
15: Insect/Arachnid
16: Mammal
17: Goblinoid
18: Eldritch
19: Celestial
20: Demonic

Giantkin=Trolls, giants etc. etc.

Magical=Beholders, and yeah I suppose they could represent golems. I think its badwrongfun but fuck it I'm not the fun police.

Mammal=Werwolves, catfolk, skaven etc. etc.

Fae/ExtraPlanar:=Old School Fae and wierder stuff like modrons or slaad

Chimera/Abomination:= Manticore, sphinx and related creatures.

Apologies for the switch up excellfag. I hope this chart will be more suitable to our purposes than my previous efforts.

>>22042592

Myconid should get spore attacks.
Hallucinogenic, paralyzing, sleep enducing, irritant, etc.

>>22042503
>golems are nothing more than magically motivated automotons.

You become a sort of D&D take on a techpriest then?

>>22042818
>No octopus
>2012

captcha: complained

This seems like the perfect system for ERP.

>>22042818
Why?

You can easily make a knockoff beholder person or something via a point buy system if you go with the magical entry on >>22042889 I don't want to spend hours trying to balance a 100 entry list which is what I'd have to do if I poured through a monster manual looking for cool entries.

Much easier to just make some generic descriptions for stuff like "Venemous" and "Flight Capable" and let the player fluff his bat person or whatever.

>>22042928
Well, there is Illithid.

>>22042889
That's ok. I just have this feeling that I'm doing the wrong thing: I'm describing the inner qualities you'd get, rather than outer qualities.

>>22042931
Difference here is you're looking it as a part of character creation where players set out to create "Batperson Fighter" while I'm seeing it as something inflicted on the characters. The player makes their character, then rolls for what creature is inside them. Pointbuy doesn't work for that, gives the players control over what, essentially, should be a difficult to control factor.

>>22042976
yeah I don't think a chart is what we need here.

I think we need a list of traits that a GM could allow his player to pick and choose from once they have their monster.

Okay lets say for instance you rolled up "Undead" on the chart, you could then choose a kind of undead, the GM would choose for you, or you could roll up the undead type on another chart.

From there you'd choose the types of bonuses as time goes on.

>>22043023
So... we do need charts. In fact we need more charts.
SUBCHARTS!

Choosing bonuses would be shit for this.
It'd be easier though... so... I guess there's that.

>>22042250
Now do a crab, kobold or golem
Also, we need more drawfags up in here

>>22043055
I NEED CRAB

I wanted to run something similar with the rogue being "selected by zehir" who would tempt him by giving him skills during tough times, but the more he succumb to it, the more he turned to a snake

Maybe we should make the list smaller?
1. Elemental
2. Fae
3. Mammal
4. Insect
5. Avian
6. Reptile
7. Myconid
8. Celestial
9. Demonic
10. Magical
11. Undead
12. Abomination

>>22043055
Kobold yes.

>>22043020
Then why use D&D monsters? Es[pecially something as unbelievably complex as an illithid? (slug thing eats the brain takes place of hosts head has psionics powers in a magic setting, responsable for the creation of the gith...)

Why not just use mythological monsters and RPG staples and discard the D&D mythological baggage unless the person in question is running this on Faerun or greyhawk?

>>22043266
Okay cool so we have a d12 list.

Now lets say you roll undead, then you'd roll a d4 and get this.

1; Skeleton
2: Zombie
3: Ghost
4: Vampire
Mummies and Ghouls are just corpses with flesh on their bones so I don't think they should be included. Any other undead qualify?

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Made more update and this probably the last one for today, because it's 1:54 am. I hope this thread is here tomorrow or I could just make another one when I wake up. Also, can somebody archive this thread, please?

>>22044634
A: Thank you for the charts EF they are much appreciated and we're probably gonna wind up with subcharts while 're at it...

B: The thread, she is archived.

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>>22041843

>>22044634
A disadvantage for avian could be hollow bones.

Look either we make some categories for a DM to choos from or make some statblocks. Either way if we're gonna force monsterhood onto someone we need solid stats.

Stuff like this:

Weakness: Bludgeoning Damage, Slashing Damage, Piercing Damage, Poison, Disease, Metal (Silver, Cold Iron, etc. etc), Wood, Holy Objects, Profane Objects

Flight, Water Breathing, Night Vision, Natural Attack (Claws, Fangs, Poisonus Touch, Breath Attack)

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Damn, this thread's still up? Impressive, /tg/.
For your dedication and patience I bring a completely empty chart/subchart. Don't know where to put slimes.

>>22048135
Magical, I guess. They don't seem to fit anywhere else, except maybe Artificial if someone made them.

Rolled 1, 4, 12, 3, 8, 12 = 40

>>22043266
time for some monster requests...

>>22048135
Imma back up Anon and go with magical when it comes to slimes.

>>22040518
Everyone's got a little skeleton inside of them

wink wink

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>>22048359
Why could you be implying that every vertabrate organism has a skeleton inside of them? What a shocking notion?

>>22048421
>Misha drawn in the style of PSG
>all my boners

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>>22048581
That's all I got sadly.

I'd lick Scanty and Knee Sock's boots to see other PSG'd Katawa Shoujo girls though.

Would there be a way to regress/reverse in monsterness? Like in C:Tl where you can lower wyrd by not using abilities and staying away from fae stuff?

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>>22048887
Depends on how you approach it in game if The Mutations are viewed as a natural progression of the person in question and embraced (to one degree or another) by society then no... Unless of course you run the risk of becoming TOO monstrous then somehow purifying yourself or mitigating mutation would become pretty important.

Like I said, depends on how you want to approach things. I like to think that going full monster is a concious decision on the character's part and that mutation, up to a point, is encouraged by society.

I feel as though your monster flaws should only raise via proportion to human levels not flat out.
for example a level 1 normal class level 4 monster should be hideous
but a guy whos level 9 in normal and level 4 in monster should be in far more control

>>22041448
No Were<X>s?

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>>22048717
Google images result for "psg katawa shoujo". Try harder next time

>>22048992
SHAMFUR DISPRAY

I MUST GO COMMIT SODOKU

>>22048980
See
>>22043266

>>22048978
I don't see why you'd bother to track human levels. Monster seems the more important relationship of the two.

Though I suppose you could persue a career or something and have a corruption based advancement ladder right next to it...

>>22040828
so something along the lines of the magic of now long dead monsters coalescing in mortals giving them a fraction of the monsters previous strength and magic?

>>22049460
Something like that yeah. Magi killed off the monsters but reality wants those monsters to exist so maybe there was a great big magical reniassance after the death of all the monsters right?

Big Magitek revolution. Then there wa war, A Spellocalypse and the PCs live in the ruins of the old world. The Monsters were only kept out of the world by the spell and now that spell has weakened but the clearest easiest way for these monsters to return is for their banished essence to drift and fuse with a compatable mortal.

Or something...

>>22049747
that's a pretty cool idea for a setting.

Prehaps guilds formed around the descendents of the magi that killed off the monsters and the monsters as they return are seeking the guilds whose magi did the most against their species as a form of revenge.

On another note what if for a plot direction having PC's explore memories that their monster holds.

>>22049910
Spirit quests are always cool. Might be a good way for the PC to unlock hidden abilities and stuff.

and yeah I can see Guilds and Noble houses forming around the remnants of Magi Groups and MAgitek industrial foundries and stuff. Hmm, maybe there was a war with intelligent golems somewhere before or during the Spellocalypse and the Intelkligent golems were wiped out?

>>22041843
Fire. I require more fire.
There can never be enough fire.

No PC, you are the spider.

FUUUUUUUUUUU--

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>search for reptile weaknesses
>get reptilians instead
>>22053568
Big thanks for bumping this thread. I hope the original crew is still here.
Also, I can't finish goblinoids, because I don't know what's so special about them: they small, have shitty teeth and elf ears. That's it.

>>22054408
Include Orcs, Hobgoblins, Bugbears, and other large geenskin type creatures in that list.

Goblins are just runty little fucks who got the short end of the stick.

>>22054408
disadvantages for the reptiles: No thumbs, long teeth make talking hard, Tail(could be an advantage)

Rolled 2, 15 = 17

>>22041651
Hoping for something with fire.

>>22055928
Well....Immortality balances out with tiny lifespan...

>>22055928
Roll on
>>22044580

This sounds like a retarded idea, why the hell would you level the monster side if it kept kicking you in the dick for doing so?

Rolled 1

>>22055987
'Kay, didn't see that.

>>22055994

Because with every kick, you gain another inch.

>>22056010
So you're an Empty Exoskeleton. Cool.

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>>22054408
And I'm done. If there's anything I should change, tell me, please.

>>22056132
I'm okay with this.
What were to happen if I shed, though?

>>22056196
well you're really only supposed to roll once for a PC and once we have more charts like the one I made for undead we could pick out a specific subtype for your inner Monster.

As for shedding, you wouldn't, but you'd have to start patching holes in your shell or fall apart entirely.

>>22056161
Interesting, It'll certainly help us come up with some ideas.

Are we

Are we being the furries here?

>>22043266
Elemental:
1: Earth
2: Air
3: Water
4: Fire

Fae:
1: Spring
2: Autumn
3: Summer
4: Winter

Mammal:
1: Canine
2: Rodent
3: Feline
4: Lupine
5: Ursine
6: Chyropterid

Insect:

1: Spider
2: Wasp
3: Beetle
4: Ant
5: Scorpion
6: Dragon Fly

>>22056383
They're supposed to have more of a "Egyptian gods" look: animal head, human everything else. Aside from reptiles and abominations, most look more human than animal.

righto, so one of you linked this in the drawthread last night. anyway, I'm free for some monster-person doodling, as this sounds pretty fun.

>>22056383

Since there's a lack of persecution complexes in this thread I'm gonna say no. You should learn to ignore fanbases, since they are always terrible.

>>22056597
Oh cool, I was wondering if any of the drawfags would notice.

Near as I can tell our basic setting is "Monsters all die thanks to mages, Magitek Golden Age ensues. YOU BLEW IT UP! YOU BLEW IT UP! YOU BASTARDS, YOU BLEW IT UP! and then we're right back to Dark Age fantasy with swords and sorcery only people turn into monsters now and its a generally accepted fact of life. Goblins and Orcs and Dragons and stuff are either Mix&Match monsters or people abusing their powers."

>>22056196
>a skeleton that sheds skeletons
>Internalscreaming.gif
>>22056597
Can you do undead?

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>>22056676
I think wights count right? Anyway, I'll give just about anything a shot.

>>22056696
Pretty neat. Thanks.
That hammer looks fluffy.

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>>22056696
also here's a skeleton 90s antihero I drew for a guy's WoD campaign I think?

>>22056724
someone wanted a bearded axe and I scrapped that together, it's supposed to be a flat bearded face but I kind of rushed it.

Rolled 3, 7 = 10

>>22056696
Near as I can tell wights fall under zombie since, y'know, animated corpse.

How about a Mix&Match monster doing battle with some adventurers?

Rolled 3, 2 = 5

>>22056750
So a mammal and a myconid. A plantamal!

Myconid/Floral
1: Mushroom
2: Mold
3: Flower
4: Tree
5: Carnivorous plant
6: Vine

>>22056797
So murder hobos fighting some sort of Felenid Mold.

That's horrifying on multiple levels.

Maybe a netwrok of mold growths that connect to one another and act as a sort of hivemind? They'll grow servants that look vaguely feline methinks.

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>>22056829
I heard you guys like binary tool, seriously though I hope this is close enough.

>>22057293
Nice, very nice. I like the "Fuck this, I'm out" Vibe the Adventurers are giving off.

Rolled 12, 8 = 20

>>22057293
Lets me try.

>>22057383
An angelic abomination? So I assume this is something like those "flaming rings with eyes" angels.

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>>22057402
I felt it was more fun to roll with seraphim instead.

Rolled 13, 10 = 23

>>22041651
Rollin

>>22057934
I am Dingodile.

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>>22057963

Rolled 3

>>22043266
Lets roll up a character!

>>22056534
>>22058599
Okay lets see what this guy's inner monster is.

Rolled 4

>>22058611
try that again

>>22058621
Lupine...oh wait now I remember. I was trying to type "Lapine" so a rabbit person.

So how about a butch rabbit fighter or something?

>>22056161
for reptile, there is an oxymoron. you have both cold blooded and need night to survive. cold blooded means that it needs warmth to stay awake. reptiles sunbathe.

what happens if someone gets both angelic and demonic

>>22058938

Well you could go the tortured soul super person route, or you could have a person whose two halves are each trying to literally consume one another causing constant pain that can only be sated by committing equally evil and good acts at the same time.

>>22058938
Jekyll and Hyde.