> deadliest animals
> no snow

Your country is bad and you should feel bad.

What kind of stuff are you looking for info on? like hazards, typical problems that have to be overcome? How much more difficult it makes travel? cold injuries? if your more specific about the info you want we can help you more.

In bright conditions it can be extremely difficult to see. Snow blindness mutha fucka.

>>21895097

Never been up to the mountains at least?

Well snow does come in different forms, depending on the prevailing weather and conditions. It can be very slushy and on the verge of melting, or it can be dry and powdery, or it can be that perfect median where you can form snowballs and the like.

Remember than there's a big difference between "just cold enough for snow to form (0 degrees Celsius)" and "cold enough that snow is guaranteed (-20 Celsius and below)". In the former case you can still go out with a light jacket. In the latter case going out with a light jacket means you'll freeze to death.

Also, while snow itself is wet, cold air is very dry, due to the lower humidity capacity. You can get dehydrated just as easily if you're not careful.

Also this goes without saying - snow needs precipitation.

>>21895097
It makes everything look pretty?

Uhh, there's actually a lot of variation in snow. If it's fairly warm, it'll be wet, but when it's cold enough the snow is dry-ish to the touch. If it's windy, snow gets blown into drifts that can be much deeper than the surrounding snow. Coming inside with your coat and stuff covered in snow sucks, because it melts once it warms up. If you stare at snow too long on a sunny day, you go snowblind, which is actually a pretty serious danger in some places.

If you're lucky, though, your players will know as little about snow as you do. Then you can come back with amusing stories about all the things you've convinced them snow does.

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>>21895276

More typical problems from travel and traversing snow, as well as real-life observations and occurances of snow's habits (for want of a better term).

Snow is cold, but soft. On humid days, it can be packed together to make snowballs, which can be thrown for fun, usually at other people. Snow crunches when you step on it. It falls from the sky in gently drifting flakes, but on windy days when it is snowing hard, it can be unpleasant. Loose snow can also be blown around to make snowdrifts, which are similar to sand dunes. Snow is normally removed with shovels, but there are snowblowers with rotating blades that shred up snow and blast it out a chute for easy removal.

>>21895097
What kind of game? Is it fantasy or modern/sci-fi?

I suppose walking through snow could be compared to walking through very soft sand. It's still different, but that's the closest comparison I can think of.

It has an ability to make the world seem very very quiet.

Also, the wind. The wind is what really makes those conditions miserable, thanks to wind chill. It fucking stings your eyes and tortures any exposed skin you have.

>>21895362

Modern-ish. Think one where humanity is kinda tribalised and towns are all fortified and untrusting of outsiders.

>>21895324

Specifically, snow blindness is brought on because snow reflects a lot of sunlight back into the eyes, including ultraviolet rays - at high elevation, where more UV radiation comes through, this can be a big problem (and is always a good reason to have appropriate eyewear while on a ski trip). This irritates the eyes and causes a lot of pain, along with difficulty of vision.

Recovery is mainly getting out of the sun and brightness into someplace dark and letting it heal with time.

>>21895353
Icy ground is absolutely shitty. If you don't notice the sidewalk is covered in ice and fall, you can fuck yourself up. Even if you do notice in time, that heart-stopping moment where you slide a bit and don't know if you're going to fall can shake you up.

Weeks on end of clouds nearly every day and almost never seeing/feeling sunlight fucks with your mood; in some people this gets pretty bad (Seasonal Affective Disorder or something like that; look it up).

Wearing glasses in winter is annoying. Nothing like being blinded just by breathing the wrong way with a scarf on.

>>21895394
The main difference is that snow usually has an initial resistance when you first step on it, that quickly gives way to a softer sand-like consistency.

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>>21895430
>Seasonal Affective Disorder
>SAD
Yeah that's about right. I miss the sky, and the colour blue.

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I come from the reaches of Wisconsin, where it snows almost as bad as Canada.

It's honestly not much to comment about, but I will. We sometimes have schools close when snow comes down too hard and plows can't, for whatever reason, plow the snow. It's also closed occasionally when it snows, melts a bit, then freezes, which creates a sort of ice all over everything.

Usually, people come out in the early hours of the morning to scrape ice off their window, and if the snow is too high, to snowblow or shovel it off their driveways. As mentioned before, government-issued plows come around major roads and plow them. Some citizen's pickup trucks are fitted with a minor plow on the front. Kids have fun making snowmen and snow angels, as well as having snowball fights. However, schools usually don't allow snowball fights anymore, so kids usually make "forts" by burrowing into snowbanks create by plows.

"Black Ice" is invisible ice of sorts on the ground, which could be a unexpected roll-reflex hazard if they don't succeed a nature or perception check. In real life, many elderly die from falls resulting from this.

When the snow is fluffy as mentioned above, it's easy to hide under it. When it's a bit wet, it's perfect for snowballs or making holes in the sides of snowbanks. Goblins could be hiding in there and throwing snowballs filled with rocks!

Travel is harder since I'm assuming paths from this period did not have snowplows. Without proper markers, you could easily stray from the now-covered trail.

can either hide a trail by covering it with fresh snow, or make an obvious trial by leaving tracks

If you really want to give your players a hard time make them try to cross a frozen river or something. If one of them breaks through the ice they're basically done for. The cold water plus a decent current will be the end of them. Unless the other players some how manage to break another hole in the ice for him/her to get out. That or put them in a blizzard where yo can't see more then a few feet infront of them with fucking wolves trying to pick them off.

>>21895508
Swish the branch of a coniferous tree across your tracks to conceal them

>>21895415
So, there'll be cars? Oooh, fun.

Fun fact: the first snowfall of the year will turn drivers absolutely retarded. They will forget every winter driving technique they learned from last winter, assuming they were driving last winter.

In winter, you can't just get into your car and drive off, unless its in a garage. you have to get the snow off (especially if it's snowed *hard*, like a few inches), scrape the ice off the windows and get it running a bit to warm up.

Ice on the road is even worse than ice on a sidewalk. Real easy to crash here, if you do something like hit the brakes at the wrong time, or turn your wheels the wrong way. Not to mention if they haven't plowed the roads enough, good luck figuring out where the lanes are; your best bet is to just follow the tire tracks of previous drivers, assuming there are any.

>>21895333

In the north, our mountains have no snow.

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>>21895449
I didn't realize this is a thing and my country is frozen solid for almost half the year.

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And don't forget about avalanches. IN the right conditions even a loud noise can trigger one, more usually some dumb ass upslope doing dumb ass stuff. That or the weather warming up. Around these parts they have platforms in the mountains with decommissioned 3" naval guns that fire at the mountains to trigger avalanches. If you get caught in one it's like swimming in pudding. You just try to stay as buoyant as you can be and "swim". Hoping you'll stop near enough to the surface to dig your way out or be found before you suffocate or freeze to death.

There is also freezing rain. which is awesome so long as you have somewhere warm to stay. It can make some pretty cool stuff happen as everything gets coated in layers of ice and ends up looking like a sculpture.

Up here in Canada, the indigenous peoples use snowshoes to traverse snowy landscapes, because the unplowed snow in wilderness areas can get very very deep. Snowshoes are kinda shaped like tennis rackets, and you strap your foot to the wide part. Because your weight is distributed across a wider area, you won't sink into the snow when you walk.

>>21895553

Want me to really blow your fucking mind? There are people who get Seasonal Affective Disorder...in the SUMMER.

>>21895097
You know how your Aussie boots get slightly heavier and more unwieldy when you step through swarms of venomous creatures for a while? The same thing happens with snow - your boots get heavy and you can't run or move as fast.

>>21895553
This only happens to the weak of will. Have some sources of Vitamin D if you feel depressed. If it gets worse, wrestle a grizzly bear and consume its heart.

>>21895563
I haven't seen a good ice storm in years. I almost miss them.

>>21895591
What? No. Fuck off.

FUCK OFF.

If you're in an area that usually doesn't get (heavy) snows like say, southern parts of the US, the weatherman forecasting a blizzard or large snowfall can trigger a panicked run to the supermarket, people rushing to get the essentials so they can survive being snowed in...by two whole inches of the stuff. At least, that's what I've heard; I live in Michigan so snow's just a normal thign aruond here.

Then there's Lake Effect snow. Nothing fancy, just wierd weather science stuff where snowstorms that move over a large body of water get bigger and harder. So the areas east of a giant lake get hit a bit harder than the areas west of that lake

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Don't forget icicles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icicle

>>21895615
Ah yes, icicles, the perfect murder weapon! Icicles form when water slowly drips from rooftops, ledges, and other high places, freezing as it runs down it, forming a DEADLY SHARP SPIKE MADE OF ICE. They're great murder weapons because you can stab with them and they melt.

Also, someone said this, but a blanket of snow makes the whole world really, really, really quiet and peaceful. When you're walking, you can hear the crunch of snow under your feet, but when you stop, the whole world goes silent, and feel bigger somehow. It's a great feeling, but in certain circumstances can be extremely eerie, which may help your purposes.

>>21895591
How do you tell if you have that?

>>21895600
If you spend all day inside under fluoroescent lights and not getting your D from the Sun, I could see it happening.

Kind of would have to work hard to make that happen though probably.

>>21895643
Fellow Finn?

Take an icicle, jam it down the bastards ear, leave it there, make some coffee and then call the guards.

Or sneak in, jam it in, sneak out. However your shtick goes.

>>21895643

Supposing they don't just shatter on the other person's shoulder because they're wearing a thick coat.

Awkward moment, when that happens.

>>21895600

Can't make this shit up nigga. It's much less common than winter SAD, of course, but people who have it do crazy shit. Like pack their bed sheets with ice at night.

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>>21895654
Like if you're a complete hermit with a poor diet?

Oh wait...

Fill your campaign with starved polar bears. Watch your players shit their pants when a 44. ricochets off their skulls and just pisses off the beast even more.

>>21895643
What I heard is you choke somebody with snow (shove a bunch down their throat) and it melts, so there's no evidence!
Except all the water in their throat and the freezer burn.

>>21895576
Good point. Trying to walk anywhere in deep snow is pretty pointless. Either get yourself some snowshoes or Telemark skis. Trying to run in Snowshoes is a bitch to you look and feel like a retarded duck. It's slightly less retarded than trying to run in swim flippers.

As far as hazards go. well dehydration is a big one. cause your cold and don;t feel thirsty but your dehydrating and sweating. Also being dehydrated increases the chance of Frostbite.

Also your caloric intake requirement jumps up a shit ton, assuming your active in the snow/cold. Your trying to keep warm, trying to keep cool if you work hard, walking through deep snow carrying crap. An hour of snowshoeing burns around 550 calories. About 50% more than you'd burn walking. and if you don't have snowshoes you might as well double that.

>>21895650

This is a good point. Snow tends to muffle sounds by absorbing them (compared to hard surfaces which usually reflect sound).

Sounds on a snowy day tend to be much more muted (even more so when snow is actually falling in the air), which is compounded by the fact that people tend to stay inside when it's snowing.

Obviously, tracks stand out very easily in fresh snow, but are easily muddled or even filled up with the next snowfall.

I actually prefer winter for reasons said above: The silence right after a pillow-y snowfall. Peaceful walks with a lover in the waning hours of the day, when the snow falls lazily against the evening sky, and a snowflake lands in their eyelash as you gaze into their eyes. The panicked reports of the next "GREAT WHITE DEATH" and snow shoveling.

>>21895651
I bet there's some Internet Quiz that'll diagnose you. That or getting a trained professional to take a look at you.

Though I'm guessing if you've got Summer SAD, you'd know it.

>>21895705
Also, low temperatures allows sound to travel farther, or something like that.

>>21895553
>Timbits
BRB late night Tim Hortons run

Salt is generally put onto the roads to help melt ice. Tires are usually swapped out, studded with scews, or wrapped in chains to provide traction.

Light can travel quite a bit from things like fires,cigarettes, especially at night. I'd also imagine thermal gear is more effective.

If a place sees enough snow, there will be snow plows/shovels. Spraying PAM on a shovel keeps the snow from sticking.

Roads with small passes/areas can be completely cut off.
Heat can cause accidents with icicles or built up snow as well (especially if they build a fire under branches etc).

It takes more energy to take in snow vs. water melted by a fireside or in a vest because water expands when frozen and you're not taking in as much as you expect.

And finally, while smells from dead things are lessened, you can't leave food out in the open. It just needs to be buried somewhat shallower.

P.S. Don't eat the yellow snow.

>>21895720
Yes. You can hear a dogs bark from easily over 10 kilometers during a silent and calm winter day.

>>21895767
>Salt is generally put onto the roads
Salt, or sometimes dirt. I'm not 100% sure but I think the dark dirt absorbs sunlight and melts surrounding snow a little, while providing some traction for tires.

>>21895767
>P.S. Don't eat the yellow snow.
Bullshit, that's where all the flavor is.

>>21895716
Yeah, Seattlefag here. We have people with SAD all year long. Hell earlier this year despite it being Summer ( and sitting out in the sun for a week straight) I was told to take Vitamin D supplements cause my vit. D levels were so low I was in danger of getting Rickets.

>>21895767
>P.S. Don't eat the yellow snow.
Hear, hear! Wisdom of the older folk.

>>21895767
Don't listen to him OP he wants all the lemon snow cones for himself!

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The ultimate fucking WORST thing is when you get ice under snow, or ice under melted snow/rain.

Ice is slippy as fuck, but when it has water sitting on top of it you are totally screwed.

Most often this is caused by cold cloudless nights (clouds actually help keep heat in but if there are no clouds the temp drops a fair bit) and snowy/wet days.

So you get a freeze of any water from melting snow/rain overnight, and then more falls on top of that the next day.

Gods help you if you have high winds AND water covered ice.

I'm from Scotland so not such an expert on crazy deep snow, but yeah more than enough knowledge of ice, rain and medium levels of snow.

It isn't actually wet unless it is around freezing or over and the snow is melting. If it is really cold it is almost always bone dry.

Snow crunches underfoot. It also hides everything so best be on guard for black ice because that shit will throw you down to the ground faster than a nympho in heat.

Snow can pile high. When driving through a snow storm, you can fishtail because you're just not getting enough traction. It's also a pain to walk through if it's higher than your knee.

Snow can be dusty and blow with the wind, blinding you, or have a shiny frozen top that reflects light like a mother-fucker.

If it's especially cold, you might wear marshmallow-gear, reducing mobility

Covering your face is important because frostbite is a real concern in cold weather.

Cars might not start if it's too cold.

People tend to drive slower in general and take turns wider (on small streets that haven't been plowed)
When the plow comes, it makes a nice hill of snow (usually waist high in my area) for you to clear before leaving your drive way.

Icicles can kill you, but it's rare... ish

If you throw a kid into deep snow, he probably won't hit the ground as the snow compacts more.

Dirty snow is the most disgusting thing ever.

Salting paths is common enough to avoid ice buildup

Your nose WILL run. It'll usually settle ~5 minutes after going inside though

A cold wind in the morning is bracing and awesome on clear days.

Days tend to be clear (by and large), dunno why. When there's clouds, it's snowing, so yea (I'm not a meteorologist and the last winters have been weaksauce, so grain of salt and all that)

cont.

>>21895846

Which is why we stock up on skin lotion and lip balm during the winter months.

>>21895861
Snow doesn't disappear when it's plowed, this means that there's mountains of snow at certain places.

Winter is, more or less, quiet because more animals don't want to deal with winter. You can miss the sound of birds.

Melting snow is disgusting and can stink as frozen poop smells, so Spring is a stinky season in a sense.

You can write your name in the snow when you pee in the woods

Don't throw iceballs, those hurt

>>21895846
Which if you're not careful, leads to a ton of nosebleeds.

One winter, I was getting them just about at least once a week. Then again I was smoking and drinking at the time, which apparently increases the chance.

In extreme depths it can be virtually impossible to move without the proper gear. I was walking through the woods and fell through up to my waist once. I could barely lift my legs out. I basically rolled/crawled back to where it was a reasonable depth. This can also happen randomly, so many times have I been walking with friends and then the guy walking behind you will drop a foot or two. Not so much nowadays with the warmer weather and all. Also frostbite and hypothermia, look them up.

>>21895097
The only way to walk in snow deeper than about 30cm is to trudge through it. It slows you down considerably. Even snowshoes are a bit slower than normal walking, though they mitigate the slowness quite a bit. As a rough estimate (very rough), say waking in deep snow without snowshoes = 40% of your normal speed; with snowshoes = 80%.

Naturally, trudging through drifted snow takes a lot of energy over a sustained period. Also be aware that eating snow to stay hydrated doesn't work, because it takes more heat energy to melt the snow than you can replenish with the moisture you get. It's better to find some external way to melt it, and then drink the melt.

Here's a neat first person view of getting caught in an avalanche. He'd have been fucked if his friends hadn't found him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbuk9AyEap8

>>21895897
Oh - A well travelled path will have a LOT less snow than surrounding areas. Even just one person passing through once or twice a day has an effect.

>>21895861
>Days tend to be clear (by and large), dunno why. When there's clouds, it's snowing
When everything is frozen, guess what isn't evaporating. Now what are clouds made of?

>>21895945

Also trudging through snow has the added problem of not knowing if theres something under the snow.

Tree roots, fallen branches, old rabbit holes, or just small changes in the ground can trip you up.

Not to mention you could potentially walk out onto a frozen river or lake without noticing and fall through.

Depending on your terrain, falling sheet ice or ice sickles will pose a real danger. If you want to be a real bastard, see if you can get the party to chase a group of 'easy' monsters into a frozen cave or ravine, then have them turn around and drop tons of sharp, frozen death on the party.

>>21895553

I'm Canadian and as hard as I try I can't find this image offensive.

>>21895969
However the packed down snow where everyone has been walking will ice over and be slick.

Don't eat the yellow snow.
The red snow has some nutrients though.

>>21895989
Canadians are biologically incapable of feeling anything other than being apologetic or hospitable.

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>>21895966
I love how at around 5:40 he begins screaming like a tard to help his friends locate him.

>>21895989
That's because
Beards are manly
Flannel is warm and reasonable wear
Hunting/Fishing is a common enough hobby
Timbits are delicious
Our money really IS fucking fruity now
And you know damned well that those hats keep your chill-prone ears comfy

There's nothing offensive about being northmen

>>21895986
>Depending on your terrain, falling sheet ice or ice sickles will pose a real danger.
>ice sickles
Mother fucker! I just deleted that pasta like three days ago.

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>living in northern queensland, well above the tropical-temperate crossover in Cairns
>febuary the 1st last year it starts fucking snowing, like legit flakes of cold white stuff for like 5 minutes.
>everyone on the street is outside looking at the sky
>the clouds are tinged green
>air is suddenly filled with whistling sounds
>golfball sized peices of hail out of fucking nowhere
Motherfucking Cyclone Yasi.

snow and winter are often associated with death, anyone thats tried to invade russia can tell you why. Seriously though, the real reason is lots of animals hibernate or migrate away for the winter, oh yah, it can kill you (see the russia thing). If this is a 3.5 dnd game and you have a good budget i recommend getting the book frost burn.

>>21896000
Eh, I don't think I've ever encountered hard ice in such areas (maybe a lightly travelled one). Tends to just be extra crunchy and crumble under my bulk

>>21896054
Well just put it in your own words, yeah?

>>21896068
>>the clouds are tinged green
Is that normal?
My first thought (due to videogames) would've been "SHIT! Radioactive poison clouds!"

>>21896086
this is normal in tornadic/cyclonic situations, yes. It's not 100%, but it is common.

>>21896073
Frostburn helped /tg/ bury the world a few years ago

"/tg/ looks at some spells in 3.5's Frostburn supplement and works out how to make a 320-foot tall, 2000-foot wide block of snow. Things then escalate."

Tags of Snow and Santa

>>21895097
If they come from a warm(>=0) place only to come outside, make them notice the difference in air temperature. One day when I went outside, I started coughing simply because the air going through my lungs was so much colder than inside. Think of it like having a mint and breathing, but amplify it tenfold.

Remember also that cold has a way of creeping through the smallest openings, if you don't have the right protection and aren't used to the cold(hell, most times even if you are) you'll drastically become numb without some form of heat, differing from person to person, but I'd give it 20-30 minutes for your toes to feel like icicles in normal clothes(jeans, normal shoes, thick socks).

>>21895097
you start to forget about it if you're properly attired but eventually everything just ends up wet and uncomfortable.

>>21896074

It is pretty common here in Scotland.

Does depend on how the weather over night is though.

You have the compacted snow from the walking, then the temperature drops sharply at night and freezes it all into a slab that usually takes a long time to melt away.

This is the crap that usually needs a lot of grit and salt to get rid of, and if it rains or warms up enough for the top to melt you get that evil "water over ice" situation.

Kansas City fa/tg/ here. We haven't had snow for a couple of years, but due to arid and windy conditions, when we do get snow it rapidly becomes ice, which is terrible.

Fluffly snow mounds become frozen hillocks, full of icy caltrops. Ice covered limbs break off of trees, causing serious damage to anything underneath.

Any paved, inclined surface becomes a DC 20 balance check, anything greater than 30% incline becomes impassible. Frozen rain or drizzle constantly coats everything, meaning you scrape your windows in the morning, again in the evening, and if you have a longish commute, again somewhere along the highway.

I've seen light forest of Osage and similar trees coated in an inch and a half of ice. Imagine having to bash through that to get fuel for a fire, after marching all day through frozen rain.

FWIW, unlike more northern cities or areas, we don't allow spiked tires or chains, as municipal roads aren't paved for that kind of wear. We also tend to run out of salt/sand.

>>21895097
During wintertime, ice is also a big hazard, not just because of icicles. Lakes and sometimes rivers can freeze over, with a layer of ice overtop. The thickness varies depending on the temperature and time of year; the frozen layer will get thicker as the days get colder. Eventually, the ice can become thick enough to walk across, then ride sleds across, and in the coldest reaches, even drive vehicles -- such as big transport trucks -- across.

But watch the fuck out, because if the ice breaks, you are FUCKED. You're going to get dunked in freezing cold water and get hypothermia super fucking fast. That cold cold water will soak right through your clothes and chill you to the bone, and you'll have a bitch of a time getting out without help because the edge of the break will be fragile and slippery.

>>21896099
Ooo, care to go into more detail or link me to a place that will?

When walking on ice, holding onto another person can help (my ex used to do this, and she was not the clingy type)

>>21896155
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=snow

Sorry, thought "sup/tg/" was implied

there are three basic types of snow you'll need to walk through,

Dry snow, more like tiny balls of ice than actual snow you sink in it, have to trudge through it, and the smallest gust of wind will send it all flying into your eyes and down your clothes, prepare for frostbite in places you didn't even know could be frostbitten, but generally it's a small enough amount that it just melts quickly leaving you unhappy but unharmed

then there's the wet heavy snow, great for snow construction because it sticks together well, you'll sink almost as well as into the dry snow and it'll pour water into your boots socks and pants, don't stay out in it for too long, and make sure you change your socks often, this is the type of snow that causes you to lose your feet.

and last there's the crusted type of snow generally formed when the dry type has sate for a long period of time without anything happening to it (like more snow on top) temperature variations cause sublimation which re-freezes as it hits the air creating a thin layer of ice over the top of the rest of the snow. People used to snow can walk on top of it easily, people not native to snowy areas cannot, makes it easy to tell when someone's not from the area. Jagged edges and bitter cold can cause the top layer of crust to cut exposed skin, infection may very well result.

Avoid Maine and eastern Canada in the winter folks, blizzards and nor'easters eat people alive.

Snow is that black stuff that falls from the sky and is toxic if you touch it.

>>21896188
Where the fuck do you live?

Crazy Carpets are the shittiest things ever
But boy were they fun

>>21896068
>College in upstate NY
>Have friends from Florida
>Never seen snow before
>omgthisisamazing!!! it's so white and flufy
>one snow fall that year
>frequent ice storms from january through april
>2 of them transfer schools

>>21895430
Or walking inside a warm enough room to have your glasses fog up, every time.
>>21895576
Yeah, deep snow can be hard to walk through, kind of like trudging through mud. I remember using snowshoes back in elementary school, and some poor idiot would always try and run with them on.
>>21895615
Icicles are awesome, I always loved walking around and hacking them all off the eaves trough with a shovel or what not.
>>21895989
I think nearly all Canadian stereotypes are in great taste, generally positive and very funny.

Also, on a random note. Lying down in a pile of snow is actually incredibly comfortable, and if you do it correctly rather warm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgCbcT8eEU

>>21896010
FUCK YOU!

Sorry... Do you need directions somewhere? Perhaps I could shovel your driveway when you're at work?

>>21896194
Crazy Carpets were the most all-in of the sledding options. You shall either be a legend, or a corpse when you hit the bottom. Similar to the old saucers.

My personal favourite was these boogie board style things, really sturdy, but light. Just really good overall. Used it for a long time and never looked back. I felt as I got older GT's were overrated, and having a tube get a hole in it was mortifying.

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>>21896193

New Jersey.

>>21896206
>Also, on a random note. Lying down in a pile of snow is actually incredibly comfortable, and if you do it correctly rather warm.

In fact, you can use snow to built a survival shelter! Pretty sure I've seen designs where you dig a small cave and heat it with a candle and can sleep in there.

Then of course there's the iconic igloo, though that requires a bit of skill to build correctly.

>>21895553
>Timbits
Jesus fuck, I want some fucking timbits.

But its fucking 1:00am and I got tons of work to do.

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>>21896273
bleh

>>21896247
It's okay bro, lemme buy you a coffee.

>>21896273

The main thing when it comes to survival snow holes is that it gets you out of the wind which makes a massive difference.

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>>21896269

is...is pic related?

>>21896255
Speaking as a person who is only just old enough to not be underageb&, saucers are still a thing.

>>21895097
1) You can see your breath
2) Your limbs numb
3) The cold can kill you depending on how snowy we're talking

NOW WE'LL GET TO THE COOL SUPER-DEADLY ARTIC STUFF

Whiteout= a blizzard so intense you can't see your hand outstretched before you. Artic bases hang ropes between their buildings b/c white-outs come in a flash and you've 5 minutes to find your way inside, blind, before you die.

Ravines=Ravines in the glaciers can go down for miles. Layers of snow can hide ravines. This means you've the fun possibility of snowmobiling over seemingly smooth snow to hit a crag, go flying, and snap your neck or fall down into a ravine, miles below, hidden from anyone looking for you above, where you'll freeze to death.

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>>21896311

Considering it's 15 minutes' walk from my house, pretty related.

>>21896314
Not the same man, the old ones had this bit of a curve to them that sent you on a crash course with destiny. The new ones are much flatter.

Snow is also a passable building material - when you're a kid

>>21896354
geez. new jersey sucks

>>21896436
You heard it here first, fa/tg/uys, Eskimos are literally children.

>>21896460
Inuit in Canada
And I think they would agree that it's easy for an adult to knock down a snow-fort.

OP I hope you include a tribe who fear and revere the wendigo spirits.

>>21895097
Lot of Snow houses are on rafters or otherwise levitated off the ground because Permafrost is unstable as a building foundation. Also because air is a better insulator than ground.

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>>21896442

Oh it's not so bad...once you get to know it...

Does OP know about snow madness?

>>21896646
That only happens in areas where the snow piles so high that people are literally trapped inside for months.

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>>21896643
Yes it is.

>>21896442
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l09E76tdH7A

I live in Detroit.

Snow sucks ass.

>>21897129

Try a winter from an actual Northern country sometime. Also, for on topic, if it's real cold, the coldness of the air just saps energy and leaves you out of breath a lot faster.

>>21897173
>implying Michigan isn't a northern area

I can drive 4 hours north and during winter will see 5ft of snow every where

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>>21896354
>>21896354
is that carteret or avenel

>>21897217

Jersey City.

>>21897202
This, Michigan's weather is pretty similar to Canada's in many places.

>>21897202
Not anymore you can't.
I can go outside in a t-shirt and be comfortable. I miss my goddamn winter.

>>21897292
Shut up.

I for one welcome our global warming

>>21897229
oh lord, even better. Linden here btw.

it's december and it was 60 today.

Thank Krakatoa and Vesuvius.

Though it'll probably rain ice needles tomorrow, fuck Michigan.

>>21897374
There was that weird as fuck fog the other day too

Snow is a weird phenomenon caused by a druids attempting to build towers of Ice into the sky.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7245208/

>>21897377
it was awesome with all the christmas lights though.

>>21897399
I was honestly afraid to walk on campus in the morning.

Thought I saw something in the forest near me all the time

Canadian's guide to adventuring in the snow.

>It gets bright, sunglasses are not uncommon on sunny days. This should come into play whenever your players exit a building that isn't made of windows
>Cold modifiers stack, you can wiki hypothermia, but as a rule the longer you're out in sub zero temperatures the the colder you get.
>If it gets really cold, consider giving penalties to players with exposed skin. That barbarian who is too many to cover his arms? Fostbite and hard. It's not unheard of to get "skin contact warnings" here, advising people not to be outside with exposed skin for very long.
>Cold screws over machinery, bad news for warforged.
>Snow insulates, Igloos are actually really warm if you have a heatsource inside.

Just some off the top of my head

>>21897415
>sunglasses

This is a must, snowblindness is terrible. I've had better experiences with pulling bits of ceramic tile out of my eyes.

For the aforentioned snow blindness, imagine a sunny day, bright enough to dazzle you. Now imagine that the whole world is bright, white, and reflective. It's painful.

Your joints get stiff, and soon you don't feel anything in your feet and hands but a scalding burn, like running hot water over a burn. At that point touching snow with your bare skin feels freaking terrible.
Hold a couple ice cubes in your hand until they melt. That should help you understand it.

(Northern canadafag reporting. It's been a long winter already and I am a little bitter about it.)

>>21897799
don't forget sandpaper eyes.

One problem with snow is that it can be deep, and you might never even notice it and end up getting stuck in snow (if it isn't packed). Also, towns get buried in snow too.

Going out in a snowstorm is a good way to die, even a light storm is enough to cover tracks and obscure landmarks causing you to get lost, heavier snowstorms can cause you to freeze to death wandering around less than a hundred yards from your house because you can't find it.

Cars and roads break this rule somewhat, though driving in heavy snows requires ridiculous amounts of stupidity and will likely kill you as well, just in a far more painful and messy way.

>>21897415
>>If it gets really cold, consider giving penalties to players with exposed skin. That barbarian who is too many to cover his arms? Fostbite and hard. It's not unheard of to get "skin contact warnings" here, advising people not to be outside with exposed skin for very long.
Very important, in subzero temperatures with wind, skin can freeze in seconds.

Oh yes, another fun thing.

Cold enough temperatures turn water sources into death traps if they partially freeze over and are snowed on. Hard to spot and if the players break through they can die in minutes.

Also serious is exposed flesh and any metal. A Christmas story underlines the very real threat of skin ripping off.

Noise from trees cracking. The craziest sound, they will split and sound like a gunshot if the tree freezes in parts and not others. Limbs come down and entire trees can fall easily.

Last but not least, one way to keep warm is to dip an outercoat in water and let it freeze. Old inuit trick, if you have one or two layers under that it will trap the cold and actually keep you warmer in a rough spot.

P.S. For a random encounter, have a polar bear diver pop up or have a guy nearly nude running along in just boots and choice of underwear.

>>21895097
Something of note is:
It only snows if certain conditions are met, so normally it does not snow when temperatures are extremely low.
I suppose that's an easy misconception.
Normally when it snows temperatures are only around the freezing point. The colder areas are normally very dry, altho they are snow and ice packed too this is mostly because it never thows there. Snow itself is rather rare.

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>tfw it's snowing right now

The big one that nobody talks about is that being alone in the snow is -EERIE- depending on where you are. When I walk in the woods and its snowing I am scared shitless. The heavy density of material in the air and the snow on the round muffles more sound than any rainstorm ever could, every sound you make fades over a few feet, footsteps are entirely impossible to hear besides your own.
Even in the city, the far-too-light sound of the snowfall becomes overbearing when its all around you for miles.

As much as all the posts here warn of the dangers and (sometimes literal) pitfalls of winter, I must say that now that I live in Maryland I really miss a good New England winter.

Newly fallen snow is pretty. On cloudless days, it has a stark harshness to the glare and contrasts are sharp, sharp enough that you'd think you were on a movie set where they deliberately use powerful light so the audience isn't confused.

It hurts to even breathe. Every breath makes you want to cough as your lungs contract from the cold but it is a good pain. It feels more real than the abstractly weird pains of stress or the dull ache of a bruise.

Moving in snow can be exhausting. Even in perfect conditions, with a very low layer on snow, you spend more energy walking. This is because you must be constantly aware of your footing - is THIS the patch that will be slick and treacherous, making me fall and break?

Touching snow is a feeling like few others. Powder snow - snow that fell when it was very cold and hasn't started melting yet - feels dry because there is no water there. It doesn't cling to you like drops of water, it parts easily in front of your hands.

Once the snow starts melting, or your hand gets a little water on it, the snow clings and it is a terrible coldness - not like holding your hand in cold air but colder, because as the snow clings it drains your heat as it melts, and water just barely above the melting point runs off the patch of snow, runs down your arm and cold water will soak your clothes.

Also, one generally cannot hydrate from eating snow - the body doesn't melt it as fast as it's lost. With a heat source, you make water (or maybe hot chocolate, because you needed the extra calories in the cold anyways) and stay hydrated. Also, food and animals are extremely scarce in the winter, obviously.

An important aspect of being in a wintery area outside is the fact that it will be very quiet. Most animals have either left or are hibernating. So much of the background noise they cause is gone. You will find that all you hear is the wind as it brushes up against something and your own footsteps as they make a crunchy noise going through the snow.

Also, not all snow is alike. It can be compacted and make the crunchy noise or it can be wet and soft, making no noise or a squishy sound.

also black ice, is ice which is near invisible at night. Very dangerous and always seemingly far.more slippery. I've come close to seriously hurting my self on black ice many times.

The wind also sucks. its not like normal wind, for some reason it just cuts right through you and physically hurts. Your hands will get cracked and will hurt a lot if you don't cover them.

Besides being outside inside is generally very warm and cozy like. I'm always reminded of warm spices.

>>21899273

I also forgot to mention the best thing about snow ever.

at night, if you can situate your self kind of behind a light source and look up on a very black night while the snow falls, you will see nothing but the snow flakes. They are like little soft balls I guess, and even just for a moment staring at them on this pitch black canvass with the snow coming down it gives you a sense between flying and falling, going back and forth. The longer you stare, the more everything else becomes blocked out except for the snow and this sensation. I always imagine its what it would feel like to be going faster than the speed of light, and just zooming past stars.

>>21899273

The worst black ice is near invisible DURING THE DAY.

>>21895097
If you dress so you are warm before you start walking you'll freeze.
Because sweat.
Dress so that you don't get warm 'til you have walked a bit

>>21895563
>loud noise
isn't that a myth?

I come from a part of Canada that has a LOT of snow. Something very important to learn is what it feels like when you are walking on snow that has no solid surface beneath it.
A snowdrift can get so thick that it can support weight like a bridge, but if there is too much pressure on too little area, you can suddenly fall through and be buried under several feet of snow in under two seconds, or you might plunge through into ice-water. Cold and suffocation are dangers in both of these circumstances. Snowshoes are important to prevent this, as they disperse your weight over a larger surface area.
A quick test is to hold a walking stick vertically at arms length and drop it. If the stick is lost completely in the snow when you drop it (leaving only a small hole), walk back the way you came, stepping gently. If you are not completely numb from the cold, you will notice when you are walking on unstable snow because it feels slightly like walking on a spring-board or a stiff diving board.

>>21895097
Canadian here. Don't do it op. The snow is no place for those who are unprepared. Polar Bears know how to camouflage their noses so they are perfectly cloaked. It's crazy.

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>Canadians are biologically incapable of feeling anything other than being apologetic or hospitable.
There are exceptions to every rule.

>>21895097
OP, when it snows and the wind is quiet, it seems as if all the sound in the world is gone.

>>21901565
Haha. So very true. Wow.

>>21901565
>sweden

Holy shit.

>>21901565
my sides have achieved geostationary orbit

>>21901565
> implying any Canadian would ever willingly drink American beer

Otherwise, pretty much hits the nail on the head. Oh, but lots of us hate Alberta now too.

Bears must be shot in the side, under the forelimb if possible. Shooting them in the skull usually just makes them angry.

>>21901687
I hate Alberta because of all the commercials trying to convince me that tar sands are the best thing for nature since trees.
I wouldn't have had to see those dumb commercials if it wasn't for Alberta!
[/anger@mildInconvenience]

>>21901687
>>21901766

Canada province tier :

Ontario > BC > Alberta > the others

Alberta only even ranks due to precious resources. Like cowboy hats.

>>21901805
>Ontario
>Not shittiest tier since PEI
>LaughingInuitWhores.jpg

I would love to move to Canada in the near future. Britain is very quickly becoming full and I am vaguely worried that it will sink into the sea.

Has it become easier to emigrate there in recent years?

>>21897229
>>21896269
Hey, Chilltown bro!

That's a misconception though, snow isn't toxic until it actually touches the ground. In certain parts of Elizabeth and Newark, yeah, it might toxify in the air, but you're safe if it falls on you in JC.

>>21901849

No. It's become quite difficult actually.

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quick temperature reference
Overall effect depends on how moist is the air and wind strength.
+10 - no snow, but you`ll want to get some sort of sweater, sleeping is difficult outdoors.
0 - you`ll want some sort of coat. You have some half-melted snow, that turns to slippery ice at night. Fist snow will probably melt on the ground.
-10 - cold, you`ll need winter clothes. However, if you participate in some physical activity, you can even feel too hot and start sweating.
-20 - standart "winter cold" - body parts will turn numb (including face)
-30 - cold air tries to freeze any body part that it touches. Fast walking is preferred, to keep the blood flowing in body.
-40 and below - FUCK FUCK FUCK I HATE WINTER. If you don`t wear heavy winter clothing, you will feel like you`re turning to ice. Light clothing is outright deadly.

>>21902050
You can thank the xenophobic conservatives for that. Bunch of fascist shitheads.

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>>21902071
>Fist snow
SOME KIND OF WINTERY MARTIAL ARTIST

MORTAL ATTACK: BLIZZARD FIST!

>>21901812

Stay mad. The rest of the world barely even knows about other Canadian provinces.

Ontario has everything.

>>21902082
It's odd, though. I mean, almost everyone in Canada (and the US) was once an immigrant. How do they not see this?

>>21902110
Pretty much this. It's easy to ignore cries of "shit tier province" and "America Junior" when you're the best.

>>21902162
They're conservatives. Logic, reason, foresight, and lessons from history are unknown concepts to them.

>>21902162
>It's odd, though. I mean, almost everyone in Canada (and the US) was once an immigrant. How do they not see this?
Maybe they don't want the same thing to happen to them as with the previous natives...

>>21902110
Quebec, New Brunswick, Newfoundland.

Of course I cheat by living in the area where they all go on vacation.

and one day I would really really love to hear a Canadian explain to me why they travel to Maine of all places for their vacations, it's basically the same as Canada except less french (that's a joke I make because Quebecois are infallibly assholes and therefore the most notable Canadian visitors).

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>>21895097
>Can anyone share insights about snowy areas/towns apart from the obvious (cold, wet etc.)?

It is cold. And if temperatures rise, it usually gets cold, soggy and wet, which is worse.

People usually differentiate types of snow based on how it deposits itself on the ground and how it interacts with the wind. A blizzard's basically pleasant snow flocks moving unpleasantly fast, which makes you feel like thousands of babies are throwing needles at you.

The "snow" snow you'd usually see on TV is snow at very low humidity levels and it's admitteldy pretty sweet. It makes a nice, crunching sound when you step into it and it does not make your feet and pants all too wet.

There are also lighter variants that kinda don't even stick together, so you can't even make good snowballs from it.

The snow you usually see IRL is kinda soggy, much denser and heavier than "perfect" snow, makes walking difficult, makes you wet but compresses pretty well. That means that snowmen, snowballs, skiing, sledding, ect are pretty easy. You gonna get wet though.

From there on, and with the help of a few days of sun, snow only gets more soggy and heavy and sort of attains a watery sheen rather than the white you'd expect snow to have. You'll also find that falling into it is rather unpleasant as your clothes get soaked in cold water right away. If such snow is exosed to subzero temperatures again, a thin surfarce layer will freeze. That's the most awful state of snow to walk over as you break through the layer at every step and your feet forcefully sink into that soggy shit.

You're usually most comfortable when it just snows with no wind and the temperatures hover around zero degree celsius.

>>21902292
And every now and then, a huge stone head appears and yells "ZARDOZ!" for no apparent reason.

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>>21895837
>ice under melted snow/rain.

THIS IS THE WORST FUCKING THING.

Anyway, another amusing meteorological phenomenon that affect cold climates are...HAILSTORMS! These usually happen during the autumn/spring, and manifest as lumps of ice cascading from the skies at great speed. It can actually sting quite a bit if they hit exposed skin, but the lumps are very rarely large enough to actually cause damage. It also makes a massive amount of noise.

>>21902483

NOPE.

HAIL IS FUCKING AWESOMELY LOUD.

And really, lumps that size are pretty rare. Like I've only seen lumps up to about ice cube size once in my life and we have annual hailstorms round these parts.

Uh, guys, speaking of snow, here in Sweden it's chaos right now. All the subways and busses are cancelled or are facing massive delays due to +1 meter of snowfall.
Yesterday there was delay, but nowhere near this magnitude.

>183 posts
>It's not even gone off topic
/tg/ has a lot to say about snow.

>>21904047
That's what's so cool about /tg/, you can just chill and chat about whatever comes to mind.

>>21902483

HAHAHAHA

>Telling an Australian about hail.

Just last week, I had hail the size of golf balls here in Queensland (Northern half of Aus). We know what hail is and it can form even here in 30 degree Celcius weather.

It's the closest thing most of us get to snow and yes, we do use it as a subtitute for snowballs to throw at each other.

>>21895097
Yeah if you've lived in blissful tropics or at least warm spots for your entire life, you will realize how stupid people are that, long ago, they came to a land where white death falls from the sky, making people uncomfortable and (occasionally) die, and decided 'Yes, this will be the perfect place to live.'

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>>21902872
>All the subways and busses are cancelled or are facing massive delays due to +1 meter of snowfall.
>stockholmer
>white

If it's really cold, it's harder to be stealthy, 'cause the snow squeaks under your shoes.

>>21902872
jävla SL och SJ, de är alltid lika förvånade att det snöar varje vinter

>>21907383
Compacted snow (on sidewalks where lots of people have walked) does that.

>>21895767
>studded tires or chains on tires
you know those are illegal on all but ice roads right?

snow can get REALLY deep at points in the year in Northern Canada
Last year we had about 4 feet of snow with 12 - 16 foot snow banks. If you sink in, you're fucked.

thread has been archived
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21895097/

>>21907474
where are you from that they are illegal? i live in upstate NY and have had a pair of studded tires on my drive wheels every year. my dad runs chains on his pick up some times too ( his might be a special case cause he works for the highway dept.)

>>21906852
If you've lived in blissful temperate regions you will realize how stupid people are that, long ago, humanity started in a land where the scorching heat makes people uncomfortable and (occasionally) kills them, and some of them decided 'Yes, this will be the perfect place to live. I won't bother moving.'

>>21907917
Strangely enough, there is a medium.
Vast expanses of warm climate with no snow or death-causing heat.

Northern Swede laughing at the Southern Swedes literally shitting in the streets because there's a bit of snow.

Jesus fuck, you guys are incompetent.

Hell is stomping through snow for the first time after a heavy snowfall. It seems innocuous enough, but it goes almost to your knees as you tromp out a new path, and that shit gets into your boots because it's so fucking deep.

And then you get the horrid feeling of clumps of snow in your goddamn boots. If you're just getting from one place or another, say a few blocks to school or a friend's house, it's not bad. Long term? Shit's fucking dangerous, yo.

Ski

>>21907917
And now consider it's possible they didn't even know there were other climates.

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>>21907263
>mfw i'm finnish
Hope you guys got it good there, swebro.
>I'm a Finnswede

>>21908099
Wouldn't some kind of pants that fit over the boot tightly prevent this?

>>21908002
Why would you want no snow though? Light snow is a lot more fun than and less dangerous than shit you get in the tropics. Fuck the tropics and their heat and their insects and their general horribleness.

>>21908188
Probably. But we don't absolutely start prepping for all snow, all the time where I'm from. It's there, but I'm not going to completely choose my wardrobe on how I'm going to be wearing my boots that day.

>>21908188
Said pants generally soak through and pour ice water into your boot anyways, more common is tucking your pants inside your boots to prevent any actual skin contact.

I live in Pennsylvania in the USA, so winters are pretty cold. Eh, you'll live. The worst thing about snow is shoveling.

>>21902110
Interesting thing to note: Montreal it 2nd largest french-speaking city in the world

It's also full of churches, bars, clubs, and stip-joints

Coincidence?

Read "To Build a Fire" by Jack London, the 1908 version.

Newcomer to the Yukon traveling alone with a dog on a -59 °C day.

Read it in elementary school as part of a class, shit fucked me up.

>>21895097

Snow isn't soft white and fluffy like you think it is, it's cold harsh and very cold, like finely ground ice.

>>21908186
Another swebro here, how is the snow in the glorious country of metal?

Also about snow, during a snow storm at night you wont be able to se anything. Try driving a car in a blizzard.

Mother nature says "Fuck your headlights"

>>21908560
Those French...

Heavy breathing in cold air hurts in the lungs.

Buildings have steep roofs so that snow doesn't accumulate on top and bear so much weight that the roof collapses.

It can get so cold that your extremities will start to hurt. Then they go numb. And when you get back inside, they start to hurt as the blood pumps through them.

Snow falls, everyone freezes.

Cold weather is the fucking worst.

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When it's warm, there ends up being mud everywhere. At morning and in the evening it's fine, because it'll be frozen, and though you have to shuffle a tiny bit while you walk, that's a small price to pay. So one thing you might do for a game is mark the time of day by melt/freeze. Also, when it is below 0 C for a long time, the ground can be completely free of snow, especially on well travelled places, both due to sublimation and melt/evaporation. Dark coloured areas tend to melt faster. Pic related.

Houses in places that get snow absolutely need sloped roofs, or else a way of getting on top to shovel the snow off. Shit is heavy and can collapse buildings when it builds up. When I go to a place like California, I'm always surprised at how relatively flat the roofs are.

In a fantasy setting, every home will have a woodpile, probably in a little shed or covered area. Wood has to be seasoned (left to dry) for a few months before it's burned, or else it's really smoky. The alternative for the rich is a coal bin. Poor people will rifle through the dustbins of the rich, looking for leftover bits of coal. Coal fires are super nice, by the way, all glowy and warm and beautiful....

Finally, people tend to be more helpful when there's snow on the ground. Kind of a "we're all in this together" attitude. In summer, if a car breaks down, a thousand people can drive by and no one will stop. In winter, you'll have ten people pulled over in the first five minutes, all willing to push or call for help or do whatever's necessary. It's not even anything to do with the cold being life-threatening or anything like that...

>>21910227
I forgot about this story. I loved it as a kid!

>>21895097
A town in heavy snowfall may appear deserted as everyone is inside.
Depending on the culture of a town, there may be more parties and festivals than normal (because what the fuck do you have to do when you're not farming and the roads are unusable?)
Skating rinks can be made with a garden hose and patience. This leads to more skating and hockey
Concession stands will sell hot, yummy, sugary food.
Doors can be a pain to open (specifically subway doors) as the differing air-pressure creates strong winds to close the damn things
Gloves DO affect your manual dexterity. This can come into play when performing minute tasks as you have to balance not-numb fingers vs great big clumsy mitts

>>21916016
This. Summer pls.

>>21908191
> Live in California where it doesn't snow
> Travel a few hours to a place in the mountains
> Have fun in the snow and go to ski resorts
> Don't have to deal with snow outside of vacations to nearby snowy places

Somebody archived this thread.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=snow

>>21896179
I see a new idea to be used in the prank war between Maxwell and Thaddeus.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21783708/

>>21895553
You call those fucking timbits? What are those? Cog-Wheels? Timbits are round, motherfucker. Spherical. Jesus fucking Christ, the ignorance of Americans never ceases to amaze me.

The worst part of snow is mostly traveling in it while it is still coming down. Even when its just the nice, fat flakes coming down that makes for perfect snowballs, it gets everywhere in your boots.

And given that your body is well above freezing, that snow will become water. So you have boots filled with ice and snow.

And then when it has saturated everything that keeps you warm, it freezes. So you are left being cold, wet, and miserable.

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>>21896179
>>21896099
>This very thread is right beneath the one you're talking about

>>21902306
Such is life in Russada.