I'm here tonight. Saturdays are usually bad for me though. Actually any day is bad for me this late, but oh well.

Rolled 2, 5, 5 = 12

Hey Britfag, just a heads up, I'm home right now and I'll try to do what I can to contribute but with thanksgiving this week it's gonna be hard and considering thursday is the Holiday itself, that seems like a pipe dream. It may also explain any absences from Amerifag players.

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Yay! Civilisation game!

>>21673902
In other words, 70% of my playerbase or more. This would explain why no-one's around; you're all with family! Pssh. Casuals.
All I want is to share thanksgiving with a loving family. Just once ;_;

Shall we get cracking with what we have then?

Turn Report

Population: 553 (204 elders and children)
Food: 8/15
Morale: 6/16

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes, forest foods,
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liquor, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets, clay wall-tiles

Moon 10

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

> Change to food system pending. It'll account for different food types, decay and wastage, etc.
> With luck, it'll be this thread too!

This is all well and good...

But why do people throw bricks at you?

>>21673928
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

Rolled 6, 3, 1 = 10

>>21673935
Oh balls...no one around for me to second like a pleb, okay, time to step up, I guess.

Uh, did we speak with the Lion Tribe about creating a mining outpost with shared profits?

>>21673928
To me it feels like 70% is european here. Also, do you brits even celebrate thanksgiving?
I could imagine you celebrate it as "yay, all those puritans finally are gone".

>>21673951
I *think* we did that... maybe?

Trying to rev up my brain so I can suggest something... might take a minute if no one else comes around.

Rolled 3, 6, 1 = 10

>>21673968
Well I mean did we actually use an action, we've certainly discussed it.

>>21673951
Also hold some cultural event. Morale is kind of low

>>21673975
Yea, I'm not sure... my memory is leaking.

>>21673935
Alright, let's try and suggest something safe as long as nobody is here.

G1) Make more wagons (and a shrine if possible) for supply purposes
E) look into siege / breaking gates more. perhaps build a prop gate in our village to train the situation even
G2) more shields?

If we need more material for G1 and E, then change G2 to C) wood

Rolled 2, 2, 2 = 6

>>21674021
I'm with Ska, except change change G2, to F, cultural festival celebrating the...fish harvest? Christ I'm not good at this.

>>21673928
While keeping food stocks high is irritating in this setting, we are playing a very early bronze age tribe. It makes sense that getting food is a constant concern. It's a feature rather than a bug in pre-contemporary societies that a majority of people can eat every day.

>>21673935
F) HOld a cultural event honoring all of our gods with offerings and what not, plus with that speech I made in the last thread about how we will become the champions of the gods and they need not waste their power on such trivial things.

I) Build ourselves a temple to the harvest go and implement the new menthols to make it so our fields are manageable and start producing wheat again.

G) Use the copper we have plus the wood to make more shields and axes. (need heavy troopers)

>>21674021
Ok. Seconding it.

>>21674043
>>21674021
Our cultural event should be patching this up after our fuck up last time. My speech will go a long way in doing that I believe.

"You are our gods, the wind on our backs, the sun on our face, the strength in our arm, and the water in our mouths. You already give us so much we need not ask of you to defeat such a meager foe. We shall cast down those who intend to rip the gods away from us with our own strength. The Long Fangs shall become the God's champions, those who you can count on to safeguard your worship and holy lands. Our fangs be sharp; our reach be long. You have already given us strength enough." - this is the speech in question

>>21674021
Alternate suggestion. Roads. They would increase the usability of the wagons why do have exponentially.

>>21674045
Oh right, our fields were going to shit, I remember.
Well then I'll change my vote to Refrek.

Rolled 3, 6, 3 = 12

>>21674045
Going with Refrek, thank god one of our visionaries showed up.

>>21673935
Hey, I'd like to oin but y keyborad got fucked up when I fucked up ad got soda all over it this weekend. New ones coing saturday, so hopefully i'll be able to make it then. I also am worried about the thread being held thursday, it being national eat utrkey and try not to kill your family day ovver here in the us. just don't want to be suffering through an awkrd conersation with my aunt when the tribe opens battle with the Sun zealots. But hey, the threads not all about me so, if everyone else is good i'll reserv myself to reading about it afterwards. Thanks again Britfag for awesome thread, see you guys saturday I hope. also, never before have i hated captcha like I do rigt now.

>>21674100
Visionaries, don't let V hear you say that. That crazy bugger hates me.

Rolled 6, 3, 6 = 15

>>21674161
What's he gonna do? Indiana doesn't even have a parliament.

>>21674201
...I feel like I should get this reference.

>>21674140
I'd have no problem with a break over the holidays if there actually are so many murricans here.

>>21674161
It's fun to watch you guys bicker.

>>21674217
...it just clicked, I'm an idiot...

>>21674232
Waiting on Britfag, to see if he'll be nice and make the gods not hate us. *crosses fingers*

>>21674217
I don't get it either. Also:

PEOPLE! I love you all to pieces! Thank you all for showing up. I'll make this the best thread EVER! You wait!

The village's coppersmiths set to work again, pouring the molten metal into the moulds and polishing the cooled axeheads to a mirror-like gleam, before declaring them ready. Other villagers spend their days fashioning crude shields, or else improving upon the designs painted upon them. One of Groza's Devouts manages a truly horrifying, almost nightmarish visage that he claims came to him in a dream.

> Possible memory leak ahead...
The village sets to work building a large shrine to the Earthsplitter's grain goddess. The ambassador/disciple informs the tribe that once the shrine is finished, Perwan will need to be called to and welcomed into the village. The most auspicious time for this is either during the spring planting, or the autumn harvest. While the shrine is under construction, Mikuhla comes before the heads of the families, a frustrated look on his face. He is upset that the tribe began to work on another shrine, while the one honouring his goddess still stands un-finished. He is rather forceful in asking the families to remember their obligation is to all the gods and with the coming battle, it would be best to have Ermetha on THEIR side, rather than the enemy's.

The winter festival to the gods proves a great morale-raiser as the days grow shorter and the nights longer. Clustered around great fires, the tribe raises their voices in praise to the gods, toasting their blessings and playing music long into the night. Some even suggest that it could become a regular event. There seems to be talk of the festival self-organising in the future, but for now, it is not a major topic.

>>21674613
The gods show no particular inclination to favour the village after the festival, but some think they may feel slightly snubbed, after the last moon's refusal of their aid. At least, so the general opinion is, they will not curse the village after this.

Turn Report

Population: 524 (160 elders and children)
Food: 8/15
Morale: 7/16

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes, forest foods,
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liquor, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets, clay wall-tiles

Moon 11

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>21674661
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

> Capcha: Incurable Grapsan... Hmmm... Heh heh heh.

>>21674613
We will build both next turn to finish them.

>>21674677
G) Build the sun goddess's place
G) Build the harvest god's place
I) Institute a system that each major clan must send one soldier for every two able bodies men in their family, and so the families must regulate their own training of soldiers into house regiments.

>>21674716
Change that to able bodies individual, women must fight too.

>>21674716
I think I can second this. Though I'm not sure the tribe will accept a law like that without a proper chief anyway.

>>21674613
I think it was about 'V' ... parliament. 5th of november... V, our tribe brother would blow up the parliament where Refrek lives... I think?

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>>21674716
I am seconding this.

Anyone?

>>21675130
we've already weighed in, three votes for me. Muah, ha ha!

>>21675130
Shh! They will hear you!
Just be patient, Brit will probably come back soon with writefaggotry.

On an unrelated note, I really wonder who all you people really are. Although it would probably destroy the magic when I learn that Brit isn't actually a high-ranking british politician.

>>21675175
I hope my family system will help. it'll start pushing up towards the idea of vassal houses and banner men... one step closer to game of thrones.

Our reach be long; our claws be sharp!

I wonder what the other tribes words would be?

Lion Tribe: Fear the roar.
Earthsplitters: We are the thunder, we are the stone.
Riverbrothers: By the river we drink.
Sprayfolk: We're douche bags, so we don't get words.
Sun People: Those who fear the dark have not seen what the light can do.

> You folks reach a decision fast when there's no dissenting opinions... Come on all, step up and be heard! Your opinions are all equally valid! You're not going to let Refrek have his way ALL the time, are you?

The work on the two shrines continues, but with the village's efforts divided, it is a difficult struggle to get anything finished. By the end of the moon, both shrines are still not complete. Mikuhla is not happy with this turn of events. He claims he would be more than happy to step in and oversee construction, if only the families would but give him their word and authority.
> This is your reminder that you can use heroes to improve the effects of an action. Otherwise, they will sit at home doing sweet fuckall, as far as productivity is concerned!

The farming family hears the suggestion at the council and leads a strong opposition to it. To send one in every two men to fight and train would be disastrous for the fields, they claim! Other families are similarly opposed to sending their men and women away to fight and train, especially in the face of the gruelling labour on the shrines this moon and the motion is mired in infighting. In the end, no-one agrees to the action and the current 'system' continues as always.

>>21675236
Turn Report

Population: 524 (160 elders and children)
Morale: 7/16

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes, forest foods,
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liquor, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets, clay wall-tiles

Moon 12

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>21675310
NEW FOOD SYSTEM IMPLEMENTED!
The new food system is now OFF THE GROUND at bloody last. The only issue is reporting it.

I COULD give you a breakdown of your full inventory every turn, but that would take up space and slow the thread even further.

OR I could just give you a general overview of how much you have. For example, "high," "moderate," "abundant," "diminished," etc.

OR I could give you a rough idea of how long your stocks are expected to last.

Which would you folks prefer?

>>21675297
I don't think Mickey is doing a fuckall, his priorities are more focused.

Free Action: Talk to the devout who painted the weird thing on his shield from his dream... I never trust you britfag to say something and it not have meaning. Maybe this is our opening to find a dream god.

E) Have the elders begging to research a way to command the families and citizens to do certain things, some kind of set of rules enforced by some kind of powerful group... hmmmm...

hmmmmm...

G) Have Mickey help with construction of the sun shrine
G) Have the head of the farming family oversee construction of the grain shrine (Lets call him Unkran the broad, a man who is able to pull a plow by himself through the fields, back hardened from years of working the fields and constructing the village. Lord of the Greenmen (the name of the farming family) and loyal member of the Long Fang council).

>>21675413
I like you to take the route that would help you move the thread the fastest. So, the high/moderate/abundant/whatever thing.

>>21675310
Well, let's
G) finish Mikuhla's shrine and have him oversee construction. We still have some time left before spring for the other shrine.
G) build a wall / gate prop in our village to practice siege / assault. Have Gerin oversee it maybe?
E) not problem solving but have our wise ones look more into clay usage, can they come up with a way to improve our housing? or any use for it?

>>21675413
>OR I could give you a rough idea of how long your stocks are expected to last.
I think this makes the most sense. Maybe give an example of full inventory once, out of interest.

>>21675452
A siege wall? The ground is frozen outside because it is winter, lets leave that for spring.

Also your e can't work because it does not solve a problem.

Oh yeah, Britfag, did you use my speech for that festival we held? Because that was the main purpose, so we could patch things up with our gods. How did their react?

>>21675505
I was more talking about a fake gate / wall that we could practice breaching while some of our guys play defenders with prop weapons.
And yea E won't really work... I just don't really have an idea what we could do except more training, weapons or something along those lines. I'd like to keep progressing despite our war efforts.

Okay guys, don't worry. His Holy Emprah Majesty Googling III has ordered me to come here to combat the vile bloodthirstyness of Refrek.

Now all we need is that other guy...

>>21675545
Still, sounds like it would need a lot of space or have to be put outside the walls.

>>21675609
Wait what? I'm being very reasonable right now. We're going to war against the Sunfolk in four months wether you want to or not. We've been preparing for over a year and all the other tribes expect us to do it. Pulling out now would be suicide.

>>21675430
GM VETO
Heroes do not simply appear out of the woodwork. You cannot simply make new ones and have a tribe full of heroes. A hero is created when the tribe achieves something exceptional, like victory in battle, discovering/beating a god, making a revolutionary discovery, building a great monument, etc. That clear things up?

FREE ACTION
The devout who painted the terrifying face on his shield simply shrugs when asked. He doesn't pretend to understand where the dream came from, nor can he remember much of it, save that twisted, evil face, half-man, half-beast. All he does remember is a feeling of terror and awe, like a deer that sees its hunter with a an arrow drawn on the string.

>>21675637
Oh, okay then. As long as you aren't like, trying to install a lich lord that feeds on the souls of dead babies, me and the Legion of Emperors should be fine.

Wait, if we're going to war with the sun people, why are we build Mrs. Sunny-D a shrine?

>>21675662
Because we dislike them, not their god. And if their god likes us she is less likely to use her power against us during the war.

>>21675659
Ok ok, no hero. Though that free action gives me an idea. When Derrik gets back let us send this devout to him, he seems like he might have been visited by Hrunti in his sleep in some kind of semi-wolf form.

>>21675505
I forgot about that speach, though I did have the feeling that was the purpose of the festival. As I mentioned, the gods don't seem particularly disposed to help you, but by all accounts from their priests, they aren't exactly angry either. Groza and Chani, for instance, seem to be doing nothing worse than nursing their bruised egos.

And while we're on the subject of the gods... Yes, Khoine has been seen again and yes, she has been seen with Mikuhla. And no, he's still not saying a thing about their relationship.

>>21675691
Oh SHIT! Derrik! In last thread's fiasco, I totally forgot he said he'd be back before the snow!

Ah well... Not I can be creative about this. Heh heh heh.

>>21675691
Knowing Hrunti, he'll probably just growl at us for wasting his time, and then tell us and our scary shield man to be gone.

>>21675611
Well, doesn't matter anyway, since it's just a training prop.

>>21675637
Somehow it feels like we are not properly prepared. Felt even safer back against the lion tribe. But oh well. To war it is.

>>21675662
All hail the Lychee lords!

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>>21675711
Make me some babies!!

!engage over attentive grandparent mode!

>>21675772
Back then we were one tribe, at this point our army will probably outnumber their entire population. We'll be fine.

>>21675786
You bring pictures of Priscilla. I like you.

Incidentally... You can vote people... The thread is kinda based around that sort of thing..?

>>21676061
I double vote for me then, double votes, because one isn't enough.

>>21675430
I'll just second Refrek... Too tired to argue anything.

>>21675452
Seconding this vote.

Not because I don't love Refrek

But because the Emperor doesn't like Refrek

>>21676141
...why don't you vote based on your opinion of the actions and not on the person who is suggesting them.

>>21676154
Well then let me list my personal reasons, even though the Empire doesn't usually like me doing that.

I agree with both of you on the construction of the Sun Shrine, although I do believe it should be built rather far away from where our military trains.

We shouldn't shift governments right before we march off to war, Britfag will probably find a way to make it cause unstability. We need to be a unified force when we march, even if it isn't very well governed.

Thirdly, not saying that a grain shrine won't be nice, but it's building should coincide with the spring equinox or some equal sign of it being spring, makes it more symbolic and probably will generate more goodwill with Mr. Harvest Man.

So that's my opinion.
Sorry if I come off as hostile, it's just that you seem to be dominating the threads lately, and someone has to be a dissenting voice.
Just doing my job, sir.

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>>21675452
Ok. This sound like a good idea.

>>21675452
This one. I don't like any of the the options put forward but I'm too tired to come up with any myself lol.

>>21676248
>>21676257
The only problem I see with Ska's is we can't do her E, because that's not how research functions now. We have to do something else instead. May I suggest the harvest shrine.

>>21676291
I don't see why it'd be that much of a stretch to say... "Hmm, clay hardens when dry. Why not cake this shit to our walls?"

Sure, it's not bricks.
But it does open the way for Adobe housing, which can last a very long time and isn't incredibly flammable.

>>21676291
But taking two projects like that will result in nothing being built yet again... How about more armor or something?

>>21676319
Yeah, but both are almost done. I think this last time will finish them off.

Ok, how about we change it to the construction of Carts?

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>>21676291
Right. I am for it!

>>21676338
G) finish Mikuhla's shrine and have him oversee construction. We still have some time left before spring for the other shrine.
G) build a wall / gate prop in our village to practice siege / assault. Have Gerin oversee it maybe?
G) Construct more supply carts (possibly even another portable shrine?)

Version 2.

>>21676393
I vote for this one!

Also Britfag, how widespread is military training and weapons in our tribe? I'm talking copper or above.

>>21676393
I suppose this will do, though Adobe housing still seems like it would be fun.

>>21676393
fourthed on this one.

>>21676318
Hey, ImperialBro.
Just thought you should know; your name's giving me ideas. Evil ones. Thanks!

And you already have dried-clay walls. Your huts are wattle and daub. That's clay and mud over woven wood.

Mikuhla takes to overseeing the construction of Ermetha's shrine personally and under his guidance, the construction is soon finished. He seems very pleased with the result and now spends his free time praying, or else offering advice and guidance to the younger members of the tribe, who need it most. It's a stark contrast to Rina's removal upstream, Gerin's brawling, drinking and boisterous ways, Naveen's (Yeneth's priestess) life of indulgence, offerings to her goddess and outright sweet-talking un-partnered women.

Gerin is assigned to oversee construction of a mocked-up wall outside the village, for the warriors to practice on, but he doesn't seem to have any great talent at construction. Though he pitches in, trying to break the rock-hard, frozen ground, the builders make little headway, in exchange for a lot of frustration. The project is eventually abandoned in disgust, having made nearly no progress.

>>21676393
WAIT
Change the carts one to finding Derrick!
He said he'd be back by the first snow, he isn't.
Send a search part-
>>21676480
Too late ;_;

>>21676441
Yea, when the war is over I also want to look into brick construction / stone quarrying / masonry

>>21676393
We should probably even try to contact the lion tribe soon and get them to start training their cattle to pull carts too. I just thought about that myself, but since this seems to want to go the route of realism, I don't think we can just throw a yoke on an untrained cow and expect it to be ok with that.

And we should probably start gathering food out the ass because cows arent exactly fast animals and the march will probably take longer with them pulling supplies along.

>>21676509
I'm planning on a big meeting between all the tribes at the festival this year. I've already named the plan "The Covenant of Red Suns". The leaders of each tribe (both military and spiritual) will come in to ratify a contract that basically says we are now all battle brothers. We prick our thumbs and leave our bloodies fingerprint on the bottom on the hide.

We walk in as strangers, walk out as brother, on the day the red sun rises.

>>21676393
> Didn't see this until after I'd posted.
>>21676419
> The tribe is at least basically skilled in brawling and making sure the sharp end of the weapon goes in the other guy. Nearly everyone has a copper spear or axe, sometimes both. Trym and the Devouts of Groza all have bronze swords, in addition to their copper spears. Trym and Sallina, Groza's champion, both have copper scale coats. Most of the tribe now has shields.

Just before the first thaw, a party long-overdue stagger back into the village and immediately are surrounded by concern. It's Derrik's scouting party! Of the ten, plus Derrik, who set out, only five and the old priest have returned. Cold and shivering and two of the scouts sporting roughly-patched and now infected arrow-wounds, they are quickly bundled into the huts and warmed by the fire. Once his teeth have stopped chattering and he has sipped at a mug of berry liquor, Derrik relates his story.

>>21676587
But that doesn't exactly train cattle to pull carts or magically give us fish to eat on the trek there or during the battle.

>>21676596
Damn, they now know we're coming. Well... push has come to shove everyone. It is time for us to prove our worth. The only think we need now is maybe a bit more armor (hide or scale), and carts.

>>21676609
We have food at the ready for it. The River Brothers have promised up supplies. Also for the cart cattle thing, we have fairly domesticated cows. I've worked with them before, it takes a few days at max to teach a cow that a smack on the rear means pull.

>>21676638
Probably so, but it never hurts to make sure. This is going to be hard enough as it is, best not to let anything that can be avoided put kinks in our plan for conquest.

>>21676596
The scouts met up with the party from the Lion Tribe as planned and Derrik lead them unerringly on the route to the Sun People village. The way was long and hard, but although they didn't share a language, the two parties shared comradery and spirits were high. The disaster only occurred when they reached their destination.

The Sun People village sits atop a high hill, a crag of rock forming its back, at the top of which rests their shrine to Ermetha; an extremely grand affair, made far larger than the one in the village. The farms outside the walls have a few huts nearby; homes for the farmers... These huts were what caused the disaster that was to befall the scouts.

The huts, exposed and unprotected, proved too tempting a target for the marauding Lion Tribe. They swept down and attacked, despite Derrik giving orders to hang back. The Wolfsbane scouts joined them, caught up in the confusion and excitement, or trying to coral their friends, it was impossible to say. The scouts attacked and killed any of the farmers they could lay their hands on, stealing whatever they could carry. When one of the huts caught fire however, it alerted the village. A host of warriors, out-numbering the scouts at least five-to-one, charged out of the village gates, screaming for blood. Arrows streaked through the air, scattering the scouts and killing many of them. The Lion Tribe had fled in one direction, while Derrik lead his scouts away another way. Dogged by the Sun People, seeking revenge for the murdered farmers, they had only been able to lose their pursuers in a blizzard as winter set in, before making their way back to the village.

>>21676737
Shizzle, and we still have not made any specifics for what will happen once the village falls (if it does). I don't mean our take over of the village, but the looting part. We'll have to limit the devastation caused by the lion tribe but we can't let them leave with nothing either.

>>21676769
Praise be to Khoine!

Also, does anyone have the sudden urge to topple the giant Shrine of Ermetha onto the village?

>>21676769
That sucks but at least we have a rough, and probably low, estimate of their strength. The villagers couldnt have known how many were in the raid but they only sent out round about 50 people. That might bode well for us, me thinks, but we'll have to try and reign in the impetus of the lion tribe lest they run into a trap.

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>>21676769
Ow shit!

>>21676769
...wait... a lot of dead farmers?

PERFECT! That means that they won't be able to plant crops nearly as effectively this year and their food stores will be already low when we head in for the siege. Starving them out (if it comes to that) just got a hell of a lot easier.

Also this incident will help convince the Lion Tribe of my idea to not kill them unnecessarily and to only take material goods after we win, not raping and murdering.

If anything this is a huge boon, and for only 5 deaths.

>>21676825
Actually I was thinking the same thing, but I say we should avoid it because after we win we need to force them to sign the River Concord (the day of red suns thing I mentioned earlier) to bring them into the fold as allies.

>>21676769
Turn Report

Population: 519 (160 elders and children)
Food: Diminished
Morale: 6/16

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes, forest foods,
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liquor, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets, clay wall-tiles

Moon 1

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>21676916
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>21676908
No.
We must crush them completely.
We must destroy their army, bring their leader before an assembly of the gods, and have them pass judgement.

The survivors are to be enslaved until the sun has risen and set one thousand times, at which point they shall be escorted back to their lands to settle as a vassal of the Wolfsbane Tribe.

>>21676899
I don't think they'll be entirely too willing to not rape and murder after this is all done. We'll have to convince them of it.

"After the battle of champions when we were enemies so long ago we spared your village the the sword and torch because we saw in you the possibility of becoming great allies. This time is no different. Have your loot, by the rights of war you have earned it, but we ask that you leave the survivors to tend what is left of their lives and begin rebuilding because in them, we see another great ally to spread the might of our two people even further. And if they betray this trust, we will bring upon them the fury our tribes possess and there will be no mercy."

Jumped the gun on that by several turns and a battle, but that's what I mean by having to convince them.

>>21676916
I) Have our wise ones draft what will be known as the "Riverlands Concord", a document that formally binds the tribes together as battle brothers. It will include these tenants:

When one tribe is threatened all are threatened, and the other tribes shall come to their aide.

Each year the tribes shall come together for delegations and to promote brotherhood.

Any tribe wanting to know the language, customs, or culture of another tribe need merely to send emissaries to learn.

There will be no war between the tribes.

When one tribe is under some form of pressure, be it food or otherwise, other tribes will help it in its time of need.

G) Construct carts

D) Gather as much new spring growth as possible, we need food for the trek.

>>21676995
Seconding this, because it makes a type of sense that pleases the Emperor, and I would have suggested much the same thing anyways.

>>21676966
Ummm... dude... no. We are not taking slaves, they are far more useful to us as allies for when the eventual war against the sprayfolk come. Besides, I do not enjoy the idea of raping and pillaging people who could produce unique goods and tech for us.

>>21676995
There won't be much spring growth, we tried that before and it didn't help. We'd probably be best off asking both Chani and Hrunti to help hunting for deer and fishing to be honest.

>>21677035
Ok, change my gathering to hunting then.

YO BRITFAG! WE'RE CHANGING THE D TO A B

>>21677031
Well said, as was suggested before, we should look into making them part of our tribe. Equal in all ways and granted every right same as us. But we'll also leave a garrison there to, eh, ensure loyalty until such a time as it's given freely and old wounds have healed.

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>>21677031
Refrek Spine Snapper is disgusted by some idea? Refek "let's eat gods and sacrifice infants"?
This... This means something.

>>21677074
Yeah, but we should allow them to keep their leaders and customs, and by signing the concord they will effectively be part of our tribe.

Britfag, how many main clans do we have? I would like to name them if you don't mind. It will help me organize the war effort later on.

>>21676995
Seconded with the change of: D to B

B. Ask Hrunti and Chani to help us hunt and fish for food

>>21677094
I am merely in this for the most effective route possible. While slaves will be a temporary boost there are far too many risks and given up opportunities.

Also I don't think I ever advocated the sacrificing of infants. Killing and eating gods yes, but not killing babies.

>>21677068
seconded

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>>21677068
>>21677035
Let's go with it.

>>21677104
Yeah, try to change as little as possible within the village itself, just enforce a fealty to the Wolfsbane tribe. The can keep their single god, their leaders, their customs all of that good stuff, just let them know that they work for us now and, by and far, we are a good tribe.

I'm not saying that because I'm biased, I mean, aside from that one incident with the Lion Tribe, we are seriously very helpful and caring lol.

>>21677109
Yes I agree with this.

>>21677133
Pardon, Longfang Tribe.

>>21677104
Do NOT leave their leader alive.

They are zealots. That means that their leader is probably religious in nature.

You can't treaty the equivalent of a pope into submission. Bring the leader before a council of the known gods, and let them pass judgement. His crimes are against the gods, the gods should determine the punishment.

>>21677133
So, as our demands it will be this:

They will have to acknowledge the existence of other kinds of worship, and the fact of this worship is not heresy.

They must sign the Riverlands Concord.

They must send a few individuals to teach us their technology, they will choose apprentices from our tribe immediately and begging teaching (we will also send some of our people over there to teach them nonmilitary tech)

We will take a small price of fealty once we win, but we will never unduly ask for good from them ever again.

>>21677116
There was that time, I believe you advocated the 'Spartan method' of only letting the strong babies live?

>>21677104
I'm unsure exactly what you mean by 'clans'. If you mean the different villages, there's you, the Lion tribe, the River Brothers and the Earthsplitters, with the Spray-Folk further downriver and of course, the Sun People away in the mountains.

>>21677156
It really depends on the leader's personality once we meet him. I am willing to kill him if he proves to be too treacherous, but I will not pass judgment yet.

>>21677188
No, that was some other guy who advocated for the spartan method. I thought it was a silly idea.

I mean the different families within our tribe, the ones who head's make all the decisions.

>>21677156
Their leader is probably their priest too. Such is how it works in most religious societies. Killing him might not go over too well towards our main goal. About the best we could do would be to install a military governor to ensure loyalty until, as I said, old wounds have healed and they see the benefit of following our tribe.

Or we could kill him in battle. He might be up front in the fighting, though I doubt it, but that would draw up just as many downsides as removing him. We need their leader to accept our ideas or they might just pay lip service and revolt once the opportunity arises. Unless we find out how their tribe is run, we can't accurately make plans for dealing with this sort of thing.

>>21677190
You will pass no judgement on your own.

WE, the thread, as a collective of individuals, shall agree on what to do. Right now, I am putting forth that we should agree in ADVANCE to bring this leader, regardless of personality, before the gods to be judged. This means ALL the known gods, Ermetha, Khoine, Mr. Crowley ((That Lion's trickster god)) There will be no exceptions.

His crime is against the gods, waging war on followers of the gods. It will be the victims who judge the guilty.

>>21677196
There's a number of them. As yet, they're ill-defined. Some only have as few as a dozen individuals, some have over two score. For all intents and purposes, there is as many as you need, however many that is.

> Counting votes now

>>21677241
I honestly don't think the Gods would care to pass judgement on their leader. Why would they? Hrunti doesn't give a shit, Groza only wants to battle, Chani wants to fish and do other river shit. The ideas and beliefs of man have no impact on their existence.

Its safe to assume that the sun people have only ever believed in Ermetha and that hasn't caused our Gods any lost sleep so, yeah.

And besides, if you want to try and get judgement against the man for advocating the attack on our goddess Khione, well, Trym might have to see his day in court too.

>>21677241
Yeah, there are too many unknowns at the moment. Lets just wait for when it happens.
>>21677234
I know that, don't worry. I didn't mean to imply I was going to do it by myself
>>21677247
Ok there will be two dozen main ones:
1. The Greenmen - The farming ones
2. Wolfsbane - Tyrm's
3. Battleforged - The one Gerin is currently the head of.
4. Riverspirit - The one Rina was a member of before becoming a priestess.
5. Silverbrow - The one that Derrik is one of the Elders for
6. Arril - known for their craftsmen, Mickey happens to be a member of it

That's all I got, anyone have more suggestions. Add a bit of flavor, not too much though. Like their specialization and clan heads and what not.

>>21677342
Arril doesn't sound like it fits though...

How about the Strongarm clan?
Builders and Crafters who put the things together.

On an unrelated note, what ever happened to figuring out how to Magic?

>>21677404
Yeah, we should change that.

At the moment no, that's why after the war I'm gonna start focusing on god lore. Also this is why I want a demigod baby.

>>21677404
Yeah, we probably should get on that. And asking our gods to enhance weapons and armor as some point in the future.

IIRC there is a world of magic that we've barely scratched the surface of. Or something like that Britfag had said.

You guys are a bunch of fuckers, attacking our Ermetha-damned farms!

But you'll all feel the searing wrath of Her Radiance soon enough!

Long Live the Sunlords!!!
Death to the Longfags!!!

>>21677436
Yes he has said that. There is a lot we need to learn, we have a bit of knowledge but once we start making artifacts...

>>21677460
Good, it's so hard to get a nice, even tan with all these damned trees around here.

I don't see why you're so butthurt, all we did was allow those farmers to meet their god a little sooner.

>>21677460
We worship her too dipstick. Besides, our army outnumbers your entire tribe. Think you might want to surrender and keep your village intact?

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>>21677460
That was funny, actually.

>>21677404
I prefer Armstrong. pic related

>>21677524
Ehh, it might. We don't know if they have allies in the area. I imagine the war will begin next thread so all we can do now is pray and look to our arms, armor and the brothers at our sides.

In preparation for the grand attack later in the year, some bright spark among the tribe's wise men figures out that the warriors will need a great many carts to move all their food, weapons, shelters and the like. So is it that the tribe sets to work constructing a great deal of carts for the necessary goods. A half-dozen of them are finished by the end of the moon, thanks to the tribe's concerted efforts.

With Derrik and Rina guiding them, many of the tribe set out to bolster the food stocks in preparation for the attack. Between them and with the guidance of the priests, they are able to bring in a great bounty of food for the village's smokehouse.

While writing down such a document as the 'Riverlands Concord' is somewhat beyond the abilities of the Wolfsbane writing system, the idea is recited and refined between the wise men, until each and every one of them can recite the tenets of the accord by heart. At the families' command, they are ready to present it to the other tribes.

>>21677596
Er, uh, how about a circle, right. And that circles runs through the sigils of the tribes the Riverlands Concord encompasses. A Lion for the Lion Tribe, A Wolf for our Tribe so on and so forth. And in the middle of the circle are two men shaking hands while the outside shows two warriors fighting, a barren field. I don't know. Just something to help visualize what the concord is for. Within the circle is unity and outside is bad shit happening.

So the sigils are connected and then the accompanying parties just make whatever mark represents their tribe. Just an idea.

>>21677644
What would represent the River Brothers and Earthsplitters?

A bear and fish?

>>21677550
> BEHOLD! The elegant architectural technique invented by the Armstrong line, this very generation!

Turn Report

Population: 517 (160 elders and children)
Food: Average (Grain low; Vegetables low)
Morale: 6/16

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes, forest foods,
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liquor, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets, clay wall-tiles

Moon 2

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>21677704
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>21677687
We could probably draw something up once they arrive and we begin the talks. Wouldn't want to make them angry by getting their sigils wrong.

>>21677721
C) Gather hides to replenish our stocks.
G) Make as much hide and copper scale armor as possible
E) Because our writing system isn't complicated enough instead have the wise ones to make a sigil to accompany the speech. They will put it on a hide using charcoal, and we'll do the bloody fingerprint thing to sign it.

>>21677721
J. I'd like to hear what the wise ones suggest.

We also need to train those cattle to pull carts still. And we should probably send an envoy to the Lion Tribe to tell them our our cart putting cattle idea so they can work on providing carts and cattle of their own.

But seriously, training the cattle is paramount. Real life cattle don't usually take well to pulling stuff so this might be more difficult than you guys think.

>>21677814
I say we do that next turn; we have a few more supply things we need.

>>21677814
I say two months of training will do it, we will spend time doing it for the last two turns before we embark on Moon 5.

C) Make more hide and copper armor
I ) Go to the lion tribe for cattle herding advice
E) Have the wise ones further writing due to the need to accurately record treaties and pacts.

>>21677774
H) Send en envoy to the Lion Lord to start training their cattle.n
G) Make as much hide and copper scale armor as possible
E) Because our writing system isn't complicated enough instead have the wise ones to make a sigil to accompany the speech. They will put it on a hide using charcoal, and we'll do the bloody fingerprint thing to sign it.

>>21677871
Writing will take too long to develop, I say leave it until after the war.

>>21677920
Revised. Missed my own idea.

B. Ask Chani to help with the fishing again.
E. Have the wise ones look into training the cattle to pull the new carts.
H. Send an envoy to the Lion Tribe about the cattle and carts idea.

I just don't want to put the training off and find out that it's going to take longer than expected. I also want to make sure our people can eat during the siege. And the sigils can wait until the meeting when we find out what the earthsplitters and river brothers use as theirs so we don't offend them with the wrong ones.

That's my reasoning for these choices.

>>21677946
I think we can cover the cattle carts thing in one with sending them to the other tribe. The only thing we are lacking is armor for our warriors. We need to make it.

Also I'm gonna writefag a speech for this years festival.

>>21677946
Seconding, though asking Chani to help out of season might be an offense. But we need to take out chances.

Rolled 6, 3, 6 = 15

>>21677890
Finally fucking back. Damn step-dad and his fickle internet rationing.

Oh, and, uh, seconding this.

Also, question, have we put any thought of utilizing the other thing cows are known for producing besides meat? Y'know...milk? I mean we're far from pasteurization, but still.

>>21677966
We've asked before. Just last turn, as a matter of fact. But we are running the risk of overfishing, I admit. Even though the river brothers offered food, it never hurts to err on the side of caution. And if we get to the sun people too late in the season they might take their produce into the village before we arrive and then we're SOL.

We are all men of the river, we drink from its banks and feast upon the flesh of its bounty. We should not be apart any longer. Let us bring together our four tribes under one banner, create permanent trade between our two people and consolidate our strength. In the past some of us have fought, some have starved, and some have argued, let this be no more. This day you all came here as separate tribes, brought together only by the strife of the Red Sun that looms beyond the horizon. We should see this as a time to not come together for just war, but for eternity. From this sunrise to the last sunset let us be together as a single people, as brothers in arms, as men of the Riverlands. Let this be the Riverlands Concord, the great binding of our people. Let us go across to the mountains and topple the Sunfolk, they have risen the Red Sun for war; let us set their sun, forever.

>>21678013
Let me get this straight, you're pushing for them to join our tribe again? Or just setting up a confederacy of sorts backed by a strong and binding alliance?

The alliance might swing, hell, the Riverland Concord is pretty much just stating what has already been agreed to but a joining of tribes definitely won't.

>>21678084
It's basically pushing for a Riverlands NATO

>>21678095
So pretty much reinforcing what had already been established but with a more binding contract. I'm good with that.

>>21678013
Fine, I'll modify it so we don't become one tribe, just the main message of being battle brothers.

>>21678134
Yes exactly!

>>21677814
The wise ones are concerned about the coming war. They fear that the enemy is forewarned, ready and awaiting some kind of attack. They remind everyone that Mikuhla said they have much wider access to bronze than you do and in their position, they will be difficult to shift. The attacking tribes are likely to pay a butcher's bill, if they attempt to take the village. And what then if they do? There is a lot of head-scratching, humming and hawing about what might follow a victory, but so far, no-one has any great ideas.

>>21677704
Britfag, is the festival an automated thing or do we still have spend points on it? Because the last few years it was in Month 4, so I guess we'll do it then.

>>21678148
I have no problem with trying to gain hegemony over the River Lands, I'm just saying that right before a joint venture into battle might not be the best time to bring up a touchy subject that has been scorned before by the various other tribes. And besides that, even if they did agree, integrating the social structures and cultural habits would take time and cause friction. Just saying it's best left as an alliance for just a while longer. If this battle goes well, we'll have an even stronger position to argue from considering it's our preparations, our advancements, our ideas that will help win big. If we win.

>>21678165
You said Bronze among them was not widespread. I thought they might have a bit more than us but not a ton.

Anyway, they seem willing to leave their gates to defend their farms. We can meet them in open combat which seems like the best idea.

We should leave some people behind in case our village is raised while we are away. Though I believe we are safe, because they still have no idea where our tribe actually is, and we have not seen any of their scouts around so I believe we are safe for now.

>>21678183
How about I modify it so it is less heavy on the "One People" thing?

>>21678165
We'll starve them out, I imagine. We can't very well go on putting the war off much longer.

But it looks as though one topic we'll need to discuss at the feast is what to do after the battle is won. If we win. I try to remain pessimistic so that anything good that happens is all for the better lol.

>>21678211
Yeah, their ability to farm has been lessened so their stores should already be low. After taking their farms we can set up a siege camp and simply wait them out while eating their harvest.

>>21678193
This is true. They had it, but it wasn't widespread. Unless you want to retcon that bit of information.

I say we could mock up some simple tactics using what we learned from that little raid. Nothing too fancy, Britfag but Refrek does have a point. They did charge from their village to defend those farms readily enough, perhaps we could lure them out with a small force and somehow, maybe, hide some troops somewhere. Surely there are some trees somewhere near the bottom of their mountains that are close enough to make a surprise happen.

>>21678257
Maybe have Derrik go ahead of our march and find some tentative places for such a thing and then we could sneak some troops there in the night.

Sounds simple enough to be easily learned from our previous experience with them, eh?

Captcha: Seems pobubl

Even captcha agrees

Rolled 4

Alright, look like a tie! Roll-off time for the final turn of the evening.
1-3, it's Refrek's suggestion here>>21677890
4-6 it's Josh's suggestion here >>21677946

Let's see how the /tg/ dice roll!

>>21678280
Yeah, we now have experience of what they do and we can exploit it.

It seems the only thing 5 of our men being butchered did was give us a big set of advantages.

>>21678380
Yup. And disadvantages too. They probably know we are coming and that's not so good. Unless they wrote it off as a bandit attack which would be awesome.

>>21678257
Tactics in a battle are a tricky thing in the days before radio, or even flags and horns to signal with. Before the battle, you will have a chance to give your orders. Mid-battle, your control will be much more limited however. That's all I'll say for now. I want to save the battle rules for another day.

>>21678298
Rina (again, Rina's the priestess and hero. Chani is the goddess) again agrees to help out with the fishing, recognising how vital her role is, especially as the tribe relies mostly on fish to live. Her magics not only make sure that the tribe has plenty to eat, but also that the river isn't about to run dry of fish any time soon. Even so, she is worried that if this fishing goes on much longer, she won't be able to keep it up.

The Wise Ones are at first completely assured that their new collars and harnesses will be perfectly sufficient to allow a cow to pull one of the heavy carts. They are quickly proved wrong when the beasts prove particularly resistant to labour and need to be trained and broken into their role vigorously over the course of the moon. Also, while the tribe only has eight cows and two bulls, the Wise Ones express concern about the idea of putting the herd in danger.

The envoys to the Lion Tribe explain the idea about cattle being used to pull the loads for the warriors and the Lions instantly jump at the idea. They send a small group of about eight of their men back to the village with the envoys, as well as six heads of cattle to be put to work pulling the carts.

>>21678490
I doubt that, but the benefits outweigh the risks. Their position does not make a good surprise attack so the advantage of them not knowing we are coming would be minimal.

>>21678510
We'll be fine. Now all we need is:

Armor
Bows/Arrows
Sigil for the Concord
More food

We have two months guys, lets get on this.

>>21678177
You'll have to spend an action point for the festival, unless you want to skip it.

Aaaand that's all for tonight, gentlefolks! It was great to see you all again, especially after last thread's disaster. This quest is officially OFF probation and will be returning to its normal state next thread.

Speaking of which... In light of Thursday being national, "Thank fuck the puritans are gone," day in the UK, also known as 'Thanksgiving' or 'Eat So Much Freaking Turkey And Potatoes And Pumpkin Pie And God Only Knows What Else No I'm Not Bitter At All Just Because I've Never Had A Thanksgiving Dinner Whatever Gave You That Idea Day', I would like a show of hands.

WHO here thinks the thread should go ahead anyway, regardless of the holiday?

WHO here thinks there should be NO thread on Thursday, so as to not leave the gluttonous, turkey-scarfing, lucky Americans out?

> Still not bitter! Nope! Not me! Not jealous at all!

>>21678510
I figured Rina had to ask Chani. Either way i'm fine with the outcome and I'll remember that in the future.

Hmm. Refrek, how does 11 carts sound to you? We use the Lion Tribes six, 1 of our bulls and 4 cows thus leaving us 1 bull and 2 cows to continue breeding in the off chance that our cattle die on the expedition or we are forced to eat them?

>>21678608
I won't be able to attend most likely, thanksgiving is a large family event, and I do most of the cooking.

>>21678608
I'll be here. Probably an hour late but no more than that. My Turkey Day plans end right at the time this thread starts.

>>21678615
11 carts full of food and supplies plus what the soldiers can carry themselves? I think that'll be fine. We can also have some carts pulled by men.

>>21678608
Well Britfag, it looks like the thread petered out. Hold it or don't hold it, I'll drop in the check if it's up and if not, no worries.

>>21678608
Also, we seem to have a problem on weekend. We've had two disasters on saturdays.

I'll try and be there. I say start the thread and see if anyone is around...

wait no I don't like that idea, it means I won't have control.

>>21678755
I like to think it's a split between you and I lately. When I'm here, anyway. I'm the sure voice of caution and preparation and you are the sure voice of fucking other tribes up.

What happened to that other guy?
And I might be here thursday, still don't know what I'm doing for national Sleep&Eat day.

>>21678777
Me, you, V, Ska, and Mojo are pretty much the only ones who actually put forth action point spending stuff. The rest just seem to vote.

And I like to prepare; I just think war is a bette option than peace for ultimate advancement.

>>21678819
Well, vote and voice opinions and ideas, just not put forth action point spending stuff.

>>21678819
I agree in actuality. But then again, look at the lion tribe. Fierce as shit, but what they take they can't remake. Friends more easily share secrets. And until we discover currency of some sort, we can't pay for those secrets we need unfortunately.

>>21678819
Isn't that an interesting perspective. It'll be fun to see what kind of society you all birth.

Oh didn't I mention? You're all still very much a proto-culture. When things like cultural momentum start to take place, well... Things get FUN... For me.

I'll tell you what... I'm going to do it. The next thread WILL be on Thanksgiving Thursday, at 1600EST, with play beginning at 1630EST. IF people do NOT show up, I won't hold it against you. A national holiday's a national holiday after all and if an American said no to a shitload of food, in favour of my quest, I think I'd have to call the local airport and tell them to watch out for low-altitude bacon.

Thus, if the thread fails on Thursday, it will not count against it. The thread AFTER that will be on Saturday, at the same time, regardless of if Thursday starts, or not. I hope to see you all there, wish you the best and a happy Thanksgiving!

>>21678875
Why do you think I am advocating for not kill them and simply forcing them into vassal houses for Wolfsbane. Soldiers+Tech+other such stuff.

>>21678921
Have "Fuck those puritans" day Britfag.

>>21678875
Also once we beat them we can make them teach us how to make bronze instead of using the spray folk. We can send their asshole smith back and get our people home. This will be perfect and probably piss the Sprayfolk the fuck off.

>>21678959
*Happy

>>21678931
And that is one of the few things we agree on, boss. Fight when it's right, lenient when it's called for.

As far as that other tribe knows they're not doing anything wrong. I just think our best bet for expansion in all forms currently resides in taking their village. I don't expect it to be easy, but I don't want it to be a herculean effort and thus the reason for my caution. Them united with us is good on all counts as far as I'm concerned and well worth a bit of blood to gain more power in the land.

>>21678608
Still here? If I am still allowed to ote, and Im sorry if i'm inconeniencing anyone with this, i would like to postpone the thursday thread. there's no way ill be able to show up, family members keep coming everyday, i'm completely trapped. also, liked this thread, was afraid about bringing the lions along on the scouting mission but ah well, no gods, no element of suprise, in for a penny in for a pund.

>>21678510
If anyone still reads this, probably only on the archive if at all:
First, how about King of Dragon Pass - like battle command until we get some radios?
Just so I don't forget to mention this.

Sorry for dropping out before the official end guys, downloaded Stronghold and it sucked me up.

And have a nice "Fuck the Puritans"-day guys!